The Breakfast Club - The Cast of "She Gotta Have It" and more

Episode Date: November 21, 2017

Tuesday 11/21- Today on the show we had the cast of the Netflix Series "She Gotta Have It" stop by where they spoke about the show, which turned into a conversation about women being able to have just... as many sex partners as men. Moreover, we did a rewind of when Maury Povich came to visit and when newly wed Keyshia Kaior came to visit. Also, we did a rewind of the time Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to himself because once upon a time he condoned"rape culture". Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:24 I just want to say I'm very, very blessed. I don't have a lot, but I have everything because I have life. When I was a young kid, I always wanted to be an announcer of boxing. And ever since I see my first boxing match, all of a sudden, I never gave up. And I became an announcer for the last 12 years. But I use that as a plateau to help our veterans and active military. Congratulations. I have been so, so
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Starting point is 00:03:50 You know, I just feel like I'm just that dude for you. You know what I'm saying? And I'm with the business. You know, my name, Ho Wait, and I'm a real one. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:03:58 I'm with the business and my name, Ho Wait. Definitely a drug dealer. I'm with the business. My name, Ho Wait, is definitely drug dealer talk. You know what I'm saying? I'm just one of those ones. You know what I'm saying the business my name Whole Weight is definitely drug dealer talk you know what I'm saying I'm just
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Starting point is 00:04:42 My goodness. How do you explain that to yourself? You start dating a guy like that. 598 credit score, but he eat that ***, though. My goodness. How do you explain that to yourself? You start dating a guy like that. 598 credit score, but he eat a **** though. Jesus Christ. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you're upset, you need to vent, hit us up right now.
Starting point is 00:04:54 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Let's go. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed. Let's say it with your chest. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. So if you got something on your mind, let it out. Gabby, why you mad? We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Gabby, why are you mad? Because my husband be tripping like I'm a side piece or something. You probably are a side piece. You don't know it. Never, baby. I never play second to nobody. That's what you think. Why are you treating him like that? What is he doing?
Starting point is 00:05:19 I don't know. It's like he's been disappearing, going out of town. He don't ask me to come with him, like family functions or whatever. When we've been together, he's like my first. You ain't been in no family functions, you a side chick, boo. No, I stopped that one. Sorry for you, mama. Oh, y'all married?
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Starting point is 00:05:53 Good morning. How are you? How is everything? I was calling because I'm blessed this morning. I'm a 43-year-old completely blind female, and I have three beautiful children, and I woke up this morning, and I finally have a man that loves me. Oh, you got three children and you're blind? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Yeah, a blind has nothing to do with a vagina. So listen, did the guy have sex with you unprotected on purpose or you just didn't know he had a condom on? You stupid. No, I've only been blind for 10 years. Oh, how old are your kids? 20, 16, and 13. How'd you go blind, if you don't mind me asking?
Starting point is 00:06:22 I have glaucoma. Oh, you don't smoke weed? Yes, I do. Does it help? Or did it help? Yeah. Yeah, it does. It does.
Starting point is 00:06:30 You're not completely blind. Yes, I am. She's blind blind. She can't drive. You have a stick or a dog? I have a stick. Okay. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:06:38 I'm sorry to hear that, but I'm sure other senses have been enhanced, right? Yeah. Yeah. I always wanted to know. I don't feel sorry for me because, like I told you, I'm blessed. I always wanted to know. Now, don't take this as disrespectful. I always wanted to know. I don't feel sorry for me because like I told you, I'm blessed. I always wanted to know. Now, don't take this as disrespectful. I always wanted to know. When blind people walk around in the street, right, and they're going block to block,
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Starting point is 00:07:52 Our guy is back. Maury! Maury! Maury! Maury! Maury! Maury! My audience.
Starting point is 00:08:00 That's my audience. You walk in the restaurant, you walk in the hotel, people just start chanting it. If I go in the kitchen. Yeah. You see, I go to these highfalutin parties in New York sometimes. And, you know, these media guys who I've known all my life, but, you know, they don't want to associate with me. So all they want to do is talk to my wife because she's one of their people.
Starting point is 00:08:20 But I'm not because I do this trashy talk show according to them. So what I do is I go in the kitchen and everybody loves me in there. You said that Donald Trump actually used to pitch ideas to you. Yeah, way back in the day. No, he didn't do paternity tests. He came up with that now. Years and years ago, I used to do this show called A Current Affair. Remember?
Starting point is 00:08:42 We remember. And so what happened was, it was right in the middle of his big divorce with Ivana and he was, you know, seeing Marla Maples on the sly and all that kind of stuff. And he was on the front of the New York Post every single day. Right. We love to do stories about all that.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Because The Current Affair did all that stuff. If The Current Affair was around now, he'd be all over it. Oh my lord. Yeah. Oh, my Lord. Yeah. Yeah, every night. You think it's Trump fatigue at this point? I would hope so. I mean, I hope so.
Starting point is 00:09:10 But the thing is, he's made it a cause of his to bash the media. And it doesn't matter what part of the media you're in. He just wants to make his people feel like everything is fake news. And so, you know, and guess what? I saw a poll the other day. Forty six percent of the people think media is fake news. Fake news. I mean, it is, though.
Starting point is 00:09:34 A lot of it is. I mean, I can't speak for like some of those places that he's calling out, like CNN. Right. But it is a lot of fake news out there. Sure. Especially with the Internet. Absolutely. And guess what?
Starting point is 00:09:44 He's promoted some of that fake news. He just says things without doing any research at all there. Sure. Especially with the Internet. Absolutely. And guess what? He's promoted some of that fake news. He just says things without doing any research at all sometimes. Right. So Bannon goes out there with Breitbart and all that stuff and starts feeding all this Internet stuff from people who you've never seen a pen or a pencil in their lives. Now, are you mad that Donald Trump kind of like ran for president before you? Because you probably could have ran. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:10:04 You probably could have ran and won ran. I don't think so. You don't think so? No. President Povich. No. No. No. First of all, I'd have to take a pay cut.
Starting point is 00:10:15 True. That is true. That is true. I'm not doing that. I got too many expenses. How hard is it for you to leave your judgment behind when you're on the show? Like, you see a white woman who identifies as a black woman. Can you imagine that?
Starting point is 00:10:29 Tender skin and all of that. I thought she was nuts. Right. I mean, I said, you know, I told her, I said, you know, you know, color is not skin deep. It's deeper than that. Woman's trying to be African-American. She's from Germany. She's a white German woman.
Starting point is 00:10:48 But by the way, more views than we've had on Facebook of any other guest. Really? Yeah. On the Mari YouTube channel. I got this guy. We call him the Sperminator. Sperminator. Oh, Lord. He has given his sperm to 24 different women, and he's got 29 babies out there.
Starting point is 00:11:11 And he is in their lives. And we also bring on five of the women. He's in all their lives? All the kids' lives? He says he is. I don't believe it. Now, when you say given his sperm, do you mean had sex with him or donated his sperm? Mostly in a cup, but
Starting point is 00:11:25 sometimes the old-fashioned way. That's hot. That's dope. And I was prepared to really just jump on this guy. I mean, what the heck? And he is kind of an infectious personality, and I kind of liked him. I kind of found a time the whole
Starting point is 00:11:41 thing was over. So you can see why he gets so much f***ed. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, exactly. And not only that, I guess because he teaches in college. So what does he teach? Biology. Does he? He's a college professor.
Starting point is 00:11:59 I don't know. Wow. What can I tell you? And so maybe these people think, well, maybe I'll get a smart kid out of this. But don't you think that meeting all these different people has made you not be judgmental because you go in with some type of preconceived notion and then you meet them and then you're like, oh, exactly. Some some of it, you know, look, I always believe, even though, for instance, I do the paternity stories or I do the lie detector stories. I believe every single story is unique in its own way.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Right. And so that's, you know, that's what I hang my hat on. And that's why I'm kind of excited with every one of these stories. I don't get bored. I don't. Because sometimes with the women. You still get surprised? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm still waiting for that big story that happened. That's happened once where the woman accuses a guy of being the father of her twins. Yeah. And he's the father of one, but not the other. Yeah. What happened with that? She's got two daddies.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Still haven't found out the second daddy. Got you, got you, got you, got you. Now, you've been doing Maury's show for 20 years now. I remember about four years ago, maybe five, I was talking to some NBC execs. And he was like, yeah, Maury's got about three more years. Oh, yeah, right. And he's going to hang it up. I was scheduled for assisted living two years ago.
Starting point is 00:13:14 And these guys at NBC keep selling my show. The show is still number one. It's got, believe it or not, this is why you know about research. You know about radio research and all this rating stuff. It drives them crazy with my show because the older I get, the younger my audience. And so nobody can figure that out. I can figure it out because the themes that I use, like the paternity test and the lie detector test and how to control kids. It's drama, man. It's all the great Shakespearean themes.
Starting point is 00:13:49 It's lust and betrayal and all these classic themes that everybody wants to know about. We have more with Maury. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God.
Starting point is 00:14:09 We are The Breakfast Club. We have Maury Povich in the building. Now, Maury, how accurate are the lie detector tests that you guys take? I see Rick Pitino said he just took one. Oh, Rick Pitino, are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? How accurate is it? Well, it's not as accurate as the paternity test.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Right. It's not 99.99999. But it's over 90%. I'll put it to you that way. Yeah, but you could be nervous and fail one of those. You could be telling the truth and be nervous and sweaty. My boy Ralph, you know, Ralph is the guy. Ralph Barbieri is the guy who comes on my show because he does the administering the lie detector test.
Starting point is 00:14:43 He says, look, I give this test three different times. I don't just do it one time. I do it three times. And being nervous doesn't affect the test. Some people know how to beat the test, though, they say. Really? That's what I've heard. I know people who said they lied and then took the test,
Starting point is 00:15:01 and it said that they were telling the truth. The only thing I think what happens is these guys who are cheating on their significant others, I think they come on the show and then they find out that they've lied. They know they're going to fail the test. They think that they can start all over again with the girl. That's what they think, even though the girl will take them back. Now, what do you say to somebody who says, oh, this woman came on. She's done 12 paternity tests, still hasn't found the father.
Starting point is 00:15:32 She's a hoe. I think that woman is brave. And I think she's courageous because she has to suck up her embarrassment and her humiliation because all she wants to do is find a father for that child that she has to raise herself. She should have fucked up that sperm and she wouldn't have got pregnant. Oh, right. Charlemagne. People say that sometimes that some of your guests, that you exploit them.
Starting point is 00:15:56 How do you feel about critics that say that you exploit some of your guests? This is what I say about them. Let's say it's a paternity test. Let's say a guy had not been in the life of these kids. And now all of a sudden he's shown to be the father and there's a chance that he will get into the life of these kids. So you can say I exploit them all the time, but I know the chances for that child being successful are much better if there are two parents in his, in his or her life. So that's what I say.
Starting point is 00:16:29 And I get it all the time from critics and media people. But you know something? It's the media people who say I'm exploiting it. People don't think that. Yeah, but all media people exploit everything. Well, of course. That's what they do. That's what we do.
Starting point is 00:16:43 We exploit everything. Hey, what are we doing here? Exactly. What am I doing? We're exploiting Maury Pope. We exploit everything. Hey, what are we doing here? Exactly. What am I doing? We're exploiting Maury Povich here. We're exploiting Maury right now. Come on, man. It was his Harvey Weinstein story. And I'm exploiting you because I want to be heard by all those people out there who watch my show.
Starting point is 00:16:54 You know what's so funny? It's like the Harvey Weinstein story will come out and everybody will talk about the people who are accusing him of these things. And they'll act so concerned. You're just exploiting their story. Exactly. Exploiting their pain. Exactly. I thought you were doing it.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Sell more papers. That's it. How come you've never done like a Maury movie? You know, the only movie I ever did, believe it or not, Tyler Perry called me up. Big, my dear, big happy family. Exactly. So, Medea has me, I mean, he's playing Medea, and he has me on the show because somebody is doubting whether Medea is, the other guy is the father of Medea's child, right?
Starting point is 00:17:33 He builds, I mean, Tyler, by the way, he's got this studio in Atlanta. I mean, you think you're in the middle of Hollywood. I mean, it is the most amazing studio. And he has rebuilt to the exact feeling of my set. Really? The entire set. Because she comes on, I read the result, it's the wrong result, and Medea runs off the stage, goes to the couch in the back,
Starting point is 00:18:00 falls down, starts going crazy, like he's been watching my show for years and the and the greatest thing about it was tyler says uh it's scheduled for like a half a day shoot and i'm going oh god oh my eight hours stuff like that how many times are they going to do it he is so good he did it one time that's it goodbye rap see youury. Thank you. He was on Black History, too, though. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I've done that. But I mean like a Maury movie. About your life. Or maybe not even that, but maybe
Starting point is 00:18:33 even like a fun fictional movie, like A Couple Goes On, Maury. I'm sure somebody's pitched a movie. What about a comedy where you're the father? That would be hilarious. Yeah, that's great, Char. That's just true. I always tell people, you know, I'm the father of some, but not many.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Now, you know, Maury Social Sit Down. Yeah. Are you doing that show because you want people to start like taking you more serious? No, it's me. It's the way I can, the way you all do it with Facebook and YouTube and things like that.
Starting point is 00:19:05 They are unique segments, not on my show. And for all those people who do everything on their devices, they can get this kind of new, unique segments only on that, only on YouTube. Your younger fan base. Yeah. That you have. Of course. You listen to so many stories every day.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Right. I'm sure some things really still stay with you and stay in your head. How do you manage to clear your head? Just people going through certain struggles? Well, I inquire about them
Starting point is 00:19:35 and we have a connection. All the producers keep in touch with every single guest that they produce. And so therefore, if there is a problem, for instance, if I say look, we're going to set up
Starting point is 00:19:47 counseling for you back home, I make sure that the producers follow up on that. Good. And by the way, I also get a lot of return guests. Right. I mean, you know, first they're on. Here's the classic, okay? The guy accuses the woman
Starting point is 00:20:04 of cheating on him and that he's not the father of the baby. Comes on, do the whole thing. I do a lie detector test and a paternity test. She hasn't cheated on him. He is the father. And then, guess what? Six months later, she has figured it out.
Starting point is 00:20:20 It was he who was cheating all the time. I'm coming back on the show because I want him to take the lie detector test. And of course he fails. So we do a lot of that. Is there anything you stray away from? Certain topics? I don't do religion. I don't do politics. I don't do
Starting point is 00:20:35 mess with that. I mean, there's enough channels for that kind of stuff. I don't think I need it. You'll do that on the social sit-down. Yeah, I'll do that. What do you think of the state of the American government right now? Because you've seen a lot of different administrations. I think it's absolutely paralyzed. I think it's just the worst. I grew up in Washington, D.C., so I'm kind of a local kid and I've been around government most of my life. And I remembered when everybody said, OK, I want this. Another guy would say, I want that. And then they'd sit down, they'd have a drink,
Starting point is 00:21:05 and they'd meet in the middle, and something would get done. No more. It's the worst. Which, by the way, is the reason Donald Trump is president. Correct. Is because of the absolute frustration of the American people that nothing gets done. Do you regret voting for Trump?
Starting point is 00:21:24 I didn't vote for him. That was a good question. I ain't telling you who I voted for, but I voted. He got Maury Povich in the building. Now, this is your 20th season. Yeah. You got nominated for an Emmy, too. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Ridiculous, isn't it? I mean, come on. Outstanding talk show. That sounds about right. In fact, they had this big event in L.A? I mean, come on. Outstanding talk show. That sounds about right. In fact, they had this big event in L.A., you know, the ceremony. And they said, you want to go? I said, no, I'm not going. I said, why is it?
Starting point is 00:21:52 Because if I go anywhere where I'm nominated for something, we never win. You guys go. Have a good time. So we didn't win. I did that one time years and years ago. I had a production company and I produced a short documentary after 9-11 on a police officer in New York and a brother fire officer. Both died in 9-11. It's called Twin Towers. And it was nominated for an Academy Award.
Starting point is 00:22:21 And the guy who directed it and produced it for me, a fellow named Rob Port, he says, we'll go to the Oscars. I said, I'm not going to the Oscars. He says, why? He said, because if I go, I know you won't win. So I didn't go. And they won. Wow.
Starting point is 00:22:38 We won the Oscar. And so ever since then, I said, I ain't going to any award ceremonies. I don't believe in that. It seemed like you'd be nominated every year for our standing talk show, though. 20 years with the numbers up. You know, I want to tell you something. The people who run those things, the Emmys and things, they look on my show, you know, less than. They look down on your show.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Yeah. I mean, it's ridiculous. Does that bother you? No. Years and years ago, when I was doing A Current Affair and Rupert Murdoch, he was the head of Fox. Was. Well, he is. He still is, kind of.
Starting point is 00:23:13 His sons are now. He used to say, he said, look, we're not in this to win awards. We're in this to win viewers. And that's the way I look on it. Absolutely. What do you think about all these allegations now against all these high powered producers in Hollywood? These stories you've heard about for years? You know, I knew Harvey was a tough guy to deal with. I didn't know anything about his relationships
Starting point is 00:23:40 with women, but I knew he had the reputation of being a screamer and stuff like that. You know, I'm not surprised because there was a culture out there, especially when I was younger, when, you know, if a woman wanted to get a job in a certain entertainment position or news position, hey, wait till the news people come out. Casting couch. Oh, boy. Casting couch, baby. Oh, baby. Don't think that casting couch wasn't in the news position. Hey, wait till the news people come out. Oh, boy. Casting couch, baby. Oh, baby. Don't think that casting couch
Starting point is 00:24:08 wasn't in the news business. They've already been talking about Bill O'Reilly and all the settlements that he had. Yeah. This is gonna get nasty for people. You got anything you want to tell us, Maury, before we hear it on TV? Nope. I got nothing. By the way, it did. I'm telling you right now, I started thinking about it, you know, way back.
Starting point is 00:24:23 And I said, I'm so happy. I think I'm in the clear. I think she slept with me for the right reason. I think I slept with her for the right reason. I didn't tell her I'd give her a job. But I'm telling you, everybody in our business, they began to think about it.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Didn't you think about it? No. I've never been in that kind of position. She might have been on the other side. No, that is true. I've been put in that kind of position before. Charlie might have been on the other side. No, that is true. I've been put in compromising positions. And you see a lot of men are coming forward and saying that they, too, have been sexually harassed and assaulted. Right. Has anything ever happened to you?
Starting point is 00:24:55 You ever feel like anybody put you in that position? You've been on the air all these years, Maury. How'd you get this show? No. I mean, I think I'm in the clear there. I really am. You know, I was never in the hiring position. I was always the guy wanting to be hired.
Starting point is 00:25:12 So I was never in the hiring position. What do you think should happen to Harvey Weinstein now? Oh, I think it's already happened. I think he's toast. I mean, I think, yeah, I don't think the company will survive. I really don't. I think they'll sell off it piecemeal. The television division will be sold off.
Starting point is 00:25:32 The movies, the library will be sold, all that stuff. It'll be gone within a year. Yeah, I think it's a wrap. Yeah, I think it's a wrap. And I still don't feel like they're going at him the way they went at, like, a Bill Cosby either, though. Like, I don't feel like they're going at him the way they went at a Bill Cosby either, though. I don't feel like he's being crucified. There are about five cases out there, and apparently the investigators in New York are looking at it. People in L.A. are looking at it.
Starting point is 00:25:54 I think there's pretty new allegations. And you know what? Women have spoken out about Bill Cosby in the past. They've spoken about Harvey Weinstein in the past. People didn't take it seriously at first, and now we're starting to take those things more seriously. What do you think about this Me Too thing? What do you think about that? Yeah, the hashtag Me Too.
Starting point is 00:26:11 I think that a lot of women have been put in situations where they feel like they've been compromised. They feel like it's intimidating. It's intimidating when somebody in a position of power does something to you and you feel like if you speak about it, you could get blackballed. You might never get a job again. People won't believe you. And it did happen to a lot of power does something to you and you feel like if you speak about it, you could get blackballed. You might never get a job again. People won't believe you.
Starting point is 00:26:27 And it did happen to a lot of different women. So I think it's great that people feel like they can express themselves and have that voice and put those stories out there. So I do think it's a positive thing. And the difference between Harvey and Bill is celebrity too, though. If Harvey had been a celebrity that people actually knew, they'd be all over him roasting him. The joke sign is good when you don't really know the person. I talked to my
Starting point is 00:26:45 wife about it because, you know, she was there back in the day, Connie Chung, when she was coming up in the news. Harvey sexually assaulted Connie, too? No, no. No, but I asked her about her experiences, and she says, I'm putting everything in the book. I said, okay.
Starting point is 00:27:01 I said, wow. But knowing my wife, she got around it this way. Are you kidding me? You're not that good looking. I don't want to be. She was one of the boys. I mean, she would just throw it back at you. That's right.
Starting point is 00:27:16 It wasn't. Yeah, I think a lot of it is how you handle it. But it's unfortunate that it does happen. But I do feel like guys will sometimes just put it out there and see how you react to it. And it's, you know, but then there's those worse situations when you're trying to get on and you're getting promised things and you end up in a hotel room or alone with somebody. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:34 And then someone physically does something. The worst thing about the Weinstein thing was the honeypot thing. What's the honeypot? You don't know about the honey? Uh-uh. So, okay, we're going to talk about a script. Come to my hotel room with my assistant. A woman.
Starting point is 00:27:49 The assistant goes up there and then she leaves. So now, the woman is alone with all of you. In other words, she wouldn't have gone up if she would have been alone to begin with and then now you feel like, how am I going to explain being alone in the hotel room? Oh, because it's a sticky situation.
Starting point is 00:28:05 No, it's sweet. You're going to, you know, here, this is very interesting. We got this situation here with a script. We have a woman assistant with you, right? Oh. Then the, oh, okay. Then the assistant leaves you by yourself. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Oh. Yeah, that's premeditated sexual assault. He got to go to jail. That's true. And what about the assistant? Because clearly they know. Well, there's, you know, it's all out there. It'll all come out.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Well, we appreciate you for joining us. And you know you're inviting a pill anytime. Thanks so much. Maury, season 20 starts now. That's right. Oh, gosh. Thank you, Maury. Maury.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Maury. How much time you got left? This is the last year? You going to bow out at 20? Hell no. Not while he's on top. He got time. Depends on how much that boat costs.
Starting point is 00:28:47 There you go. Well, it's Maury. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:29:02 We have the cast of Netflix's She's Got to Have It in the building. She's Got to Have It. She does. Classic Spike Lee joint. She's Got to Have It was actually, I think right now in particular, is a great time for this Netflix series to come out. I did have a chance to see the first episode already. And that movie is a classic movie in itself, just the whole premise of it.
Starting point is 00:29:21 It's a woman instead of a man with all of these different lovers and they all pretty much know the situation. Right, that's exactly it. And yeah, you know, it's weird how things time out but here we are. And I think we could use a little female empowerment in the ether to combat all this, the conversation about harassment.
Starting point is 00:29:40 You know. You think guys will go for this? Like, do you think there's a lot of people in relationships now like a woman who's like, I'm dating and sleeping with three different men. The only thing...
Starting point is 00:29:50 No! No guys are gonna go for this. Depends who the woman is. That was just a playpen. Yeah, if you're in Rihanna, okay. Yeah, if you're in Rihanna, Oprah's rotation,
Starting point is 00:30:01 you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Depends who it is. But a regular person... Only regular. I like how you describe it, rotation. You're like, hey, that's fine. Depends who it is. But a regular person. Only regular. I like how you describe it, though. You say you're a sex positive polyamorous pansexual. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Yeah, I felt like when it came out in 86, there were no labels for it. And we have no shortage of labels for sexuality. So you guys said, no, you don't think that this could potentially happen. It's not that it can't potentially happen. It's just, is it going to fly? And for how long? Is it going to be a fan thing? Is it going to be something that becomes part of our fabric?
Starting point is 00:30:32 It's just a matter of putting it out there, addressing it. I think it's happening. It's just not being addressed. What is pansexuality exactly? Exactly what it sounds like. You know, you pan the camera. Yeah. Pan the camera from one side to the other.
Starting point is 00:30:47 This is why you can't learn anything nowadays. When you ask serious questions, you get answers like that. What is pansexuality? Pansexuality is in reference to not ascribing, like, homosexual, heterosexual. It's more open than all of the other. You're just greedy. You get everything. I mean, yes.
Starting point is 00:31:04 No, it's very greedy. It's like a panor're just greedy. You get everything. I mean, yes. No, it's very greedy. It's like a panoramic shot of a picture. Well, let's talk about the three different guys who you are dating and you guys can give a little background on who your character is and what it represents. Because I think every woman can say, man, if I could just put these three guys together, I'll have the perfect
Starting point is 00:31:19 guy. That's what she pretty much did right there. She sure did. I played Mars Blackman. That was Spike Lee's original character in the first one. This is Mars 2.0. I think Mars brings out the kid in Nola and Mars kind of doesn't care what people have to say about him.
Starting point is 00:31:35 He's from the hood. He's from Brooklyn. He's a man of the people, a man of the neighborhood. He's an artist. He's a hustler. He's got like five side hustles. His main goal is just to kind of bring love and light in the hub and show Nola
Starting point is 00:31:51 that he's the dude. Does he still live at home with his mama? Well, he lives at home with his sister. For a green project. What would make a woman want to be pansexual? Is it a physical thing? Is it something you're searching for emotionally?
Starting point is 00:32:07 I think it's all of the above. I think it's the recognition that you can't get everything you want from one person. I think that's what trips us up when we're dating. When you're like, oh, this person has to be all these things. Like, no one's meant to be that. So it's in recognition of that. And yeah, for Nola, it's definitely sex. It's definitely, you know, like having a... She's a sex addict. She is not a sex addict. That's in recognition of that. And yeah, for Nola, it's definitely sex. It's definitely, you know, like having a...
Starting point is 00:32:26 She's a sex addict. She is not a sex addict. That's in the trailer. Yeah, right, right. Are you sure? She loves sex. Well, whatever happened to the 80-20 rule? Like, you know you're not going to get everything from her.
Starting point is 00:32:38 You know what I'm saying? But let's talk about the other two guys and what you bring to the table as far as what Nola's looking for. I want you to come back and answer that question. Okay. All right, well, I'm Cleo Anthony. about the other two guys and what you bring to the table as far as what Nolan's looking for. I want you to come back and answer that question. Okay. He's still on that one. All right, well,
Starting point is 00:32:46 I'm Cleo Anthony. I play Greer Childs and Greer is all about sexy fun. He's just the dude who... Sexy fun? Sexy fun. That's like a good stripper name.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Don't just say it. Sexy fun. Sexy fun. He likes things that are pretty. He likes women that are pretty. He likes clothes that are pretty. Himself. He's a that are pretty. He likes clothes that are pretty. Himself. He's a pretty man.
Starting point is 00:33:08 So he brings that element to Nola's life of just the exotic and the atypical and just sexy, sexy fun. Sounds like the evolution of a metrosexual. Very much so. Remember that term? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very much so. Yeah, in our version, he definitely is, yeah. So that's like a sexual, physical relationship more, you think?
Starting point is 00:33:27 Yeah. I mean, it starts out that way. Oh, it starts out that way. Yeah, I think he grows. But, yeah, that's where it comes from. Hey, I'm Lyric Benson. I play Jamie Overstreet. And Jamie's a conservative freak.
Starting point is 00:33:46 You know, he's not just a stuffed shirt he's the kind of guy that is like an anchor a sugar daddy 100% thank you you don't need to stop he's a successful man who came through the hood
Starting point is 00:34:02 and gone through all of that and basically decided that he wanted more for himself, his family, and unfortunately, love found its way through Nola, and he's got a situation already. A marriage?
Starting point is 00:34:18 He's got a situation already. And like most people, you might be in love with somebody, but then you find love somewhere else and that's usually not supposed to happen, but when it does, it does. You can't really decide and that's that love he has for Nola
Starting point is 00:34:35 and they go through some emotional things. In that case, that's the perfect situation, though. Like, if you already got a woman and then you're dating somebody like Nola who's got three other dudes, like, that's great. it should be ideal right i think it's only ideal when it's when it's a thought but when you're dealing with the emotion when you're dealing with the heart and you he falls for basically but it's like that that's it's it's it's so real though you know you're
Starting point is 00:34:59 in a situation there's other people you got to think about you know especially if there's you know kids and whatnot involved you can't just run with the idea because it's just great that you have, you know, your cake and eating it too. And I think we're dealing with real issues that people can relate to, and hopefully we can, you know, bring certain things to people's minds
Starting point is 00:35:17 so that they can figure out how to go through it. I've always wondered, can you truly be in love with two people? Like, is the other woman, are you ever really in love with her? Because eventually you choose, right? No, I have friends who are definitely polyamorous, and I know this.
Starting point is 00:35:31 I know it takes a lot of scheduling and discipline and rules. So I feel like the irony of it is it actually requires a lot of, like, it's a free structure, but freedom always requires discipline. A lot of maintenance That's why I would prefer polygamy over
Starting point is 00:35:47 Polyamory I would prefer polygamy Well you know that question is like saying Can you only love one of your Five kids That's the same question to ask Do you love all your children Yeah and no
Starting point is 00:36:04 You've been with your woman forever And then another woman comes in the picture Same question to ask. Do you love all your children? Yeah and no. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. If you've been with your woman forever, right, and then another woman comes in the picture, you think you may love her, but it could just be lust. It could just be the feeling of something new. But you don't really love her. Also, you have to think about the other person's feelings, too.
Starting point is 00:36:18 If you're hurting someone else. It's a very emotional, it's a very touchy subject. That's why she's got to have it. It's so important, especially in 2017 2017 because it brings all these things to mind And then you can go through We got more with the cast of She's Gotta Have It When we come back, so don't move It's The Breakfast Club, good morning
Starting point is 00:36:33 Everybody, it's DJ N.V. Angela Yee Charlamagne Tha God, we are The Breakfast Club Who's talking with the cast of She's Gotta Have It Yee Now for DeWanda Wise, who plays Nola Darling If you had to rate what's most important to you, is it fun? Put it in order, right?
Starting point is 00:36:48 Fun, stability, or attraction. What order would you put that in? Probably, I know attraction's last, sorry. It always, my husband is incidentally handsome. Only women can do that, by the way.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Only women can do that. And he clowns me all the time. He clowns me. He clowns me all the time. He clowns me all the time about all my exes. Sorry, guys. I shouldn't have put that on there. But yeah, probably fun first. I never really cared about stability either.
Starting point is 00:37:20 I remember first being married and he'd be like, you know, I just want to provide for my wife. And I was like, what? Where you from? I'm from Baltimore. You're from Baltimore. You got your own though. That's how I felt. I'm like, can we do this just want to provide for my wife. And I was like, what? Where are you from? But you got your own, though. I'm from Baltimore. You're from Baltimore. You got your own, though. That's how I felt.
Starting point is 00:37:28 I'm like, can we do this together? Like, can we figure this out together? So it's fun, stability, and then attraction, you would say. For the guys, I'm just interested, if you had to put those three in order, how do guys rate that? Man, she got to look right. The looks go after a while. Oh, my gosh. The looks could go after a while.
Starting point is 00:37:43 So first is attraction. The looks is the attraction. The looks is go after a while. So first is attraction. They can. The looks is the attraction. The looks is the attraction. That's the initial, okay, there's a momentum. And then everything else got to follow real quick. But if you're serious about it, personally, if I'm serious about a woman, yeah, she's got to grab my attention.
Starting point is 00:37:59 So what's after that? And then she's got to have some sense in her head. Testability. Testability. You can talk to her. You can have a conversation. She's not just a pretty face. And she's got to have some sense in her head. Just the sensibility. You can talk to her. You can have a conversation. She's not just a pretty face. And she's got to be caring.
Starting point is 00:38:10 She's got to be giving. She's got to be thoughtful. Oh, you're adding stuff. Yeah. She asked for three things. Three things. All right. But those are the qualities that make up one thing, you know.
Starting point is 00:38:21 No, where I'm at in life is totally different. Right now, it's, I mean, attraction first. Okay. That's the hello. You put that last. He's like, I'm in a different place in my life. Att now, it's attraction first. That's the hello. You put that last. He's like, I'm in a different place in my life. Attraction first. Number two is fun. I want attraction and fun.
Starting point is 00:38:31 If you're not stable, as long as you're not coming after mine and you've got your own thing, then let's just have fun. I'm not trying to build anything long-term at this point in my life. FYI. So you're a great child. He's a great child. True, true. Especially with this new
Starting point is 00:38:47 Netflix series coming out. Let's just make it a little weaker. I mean, definitely it's about being attracted to someone. No, attraction first again. But it's not about
Starting point is 00:38:58 being attracted. Like, I'm attracted to you because you look good. I'm attracted, because I've been attracted to some women that my family been like, yo, aunt, for real? And I'm like, yo, son, there's just something about her. Yeah'm attracted, like, because I've been attracted to some women that my family been like, yo, Ant, for real?
Starting point is 00:39:06 And I'm like, yo, son, there's just something about her. Yeah, after you hit, you feel that way. Nah, nah, nah. I mean, you know what I'm saying? You see somebody, you catch a vibe, you catch an energy. You know, I think attraction is more than just, oh, I see somebody and I'm attracted to them. You catch a vibe, you catch someone's
Starting point is 00:39:24 energy. And, yo, you got to make me laugh, man. You know what I'm saying? We can't just, you know, because there's going to be times where we, you know, we ain't, it's not, you know, when you get in a long-term relationship, y'all ain't having sex all the time, every single day. Y'all probably getting down. Like, I mean, look, man. Look, when you get, when you, when you get deep, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:39:43 You ask anybody that's been married a long time, and people who I see their marriages, and I'm like, damn, I admire their love. And they tell me, they're like, yo, man, when you get deep in it, it becomes less about having that homie. It's about having that friend there, having somebody to do life with and raise kids together and do all the things. And I will say that is male privilege. Male privilege is being ugly and still getting a beautiful woman.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Yeah. That's real. Only guys can do that. I think it's because, you know, women know that that fool is going to be on her like white on rice. No, I don't think that's it. I think that has something to do with it. It's not.
Starting point is 00:40:19 That's a big old shit. No, I think that has something to do with it. No, it's not. It's exactly what you said. I think attraction is definitely, I agree. I it's not It's exactly what you said I think attraction Is definitely I agree I feel like attraction Is a vibe And I can say for me
Starting point is 00:40:28 For me, intelligence Was always like Like intelligence And humor Got me every time Yeah You know Like every time
Starting point is 00:40:37 So you didn't have to You didn't have to be cute Or handsome for you As long as you Nah, like if you can Yeah, if you can spit Some brilliant shit I'm like, hey
Starting point is 00:40:43 What's up And by the way Men don't think like that You can spit some brilliant shit. I'm like, hey, what's up? And by the way, men don't think like that. You can be the smartest, funniest woman in the world, but if you don't look good, nobody cares. Charlamagne every morning used to send out, what was it? Inspirational quotes from Maya Angelou. I don't know that guy you're talking about. Charlamagne used to send these quotes out to women
Starting point is 00:41:00 because, you know, he was ugly. And he sent these quotes out. You did get really cute at some point. I mean, you know, it was ugly. And he sent these quotes out. You did get really cute at some point. I mean, I can appreciate it. Y'all go watch Netflix. You gotta have it, baby. Because it couldn't
Starting point is 00:41:13 have gotten much worse. Now, this show is going to spark a lot of good conversations, though, because people feel like women emotionally can't do what this character is doing.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Yeah, that's really weird. They feel like emotionally she'll get caught up and love every single one of these guys. Not Nola. It'll be interesting. She's like no strings attached.
Starting point is 00:41:32 It'll be interesting. Yeah, it's definitely a no strings attached attempt but it gets complicated. But it's hard because I think for guys, a lot of guys will say I would never do that.
Starting point is 00:41:41 That would never be me. In particular, this is a little tacky, right? To be laying in bed with one dude and another dude calls and you answer the phone with him right there.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Guys do that all the time. It is just, it is just, I do kind of feel like at least don't answer the phone. No, they know their position and it's not fun. And that's my point.
Starting point is 00:41:58 My point is people are doing it. Yes. People are doing it. They're just not trans, they're just not transparent about it. Like, yeah, no, you're not the only one. People just aren't taking that next step
Starting point is 00:42:08 to be like, you're not the only one on the roster. And what about changing the sheets in between these guys? I did think that. We made sure that the colors were different. It wasn't just like we had to make sure it was clear. Because what's the
Starting point is 00:42:24 rules when you have multiple sex partners? You have to change the sheets at least. You have to have sure it was clear. Because what's the rules when you have multiple sex partners? You have to change the sheets at least. You have to have impeccable hygiene. Absolutely. Yeah, you can't be raggedy and just Febreze. You know what I'm saying? Impeccable hygiene. You got to change the garbage cans too.
Starting point is 00:42:36 If you got condoms in the garbage, you got to throw the garbage out. Would they explain why she only likes to sleep with the guys in her bed? Would they explain that? Oh, do they explain that? Wow. No, she has a lot of rules. They're all in her head. It's season one, man.
Starting point is 00:42:50 They're all in her head in my journal. And when does it start? For me, it's November 23rd, Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving, yes. Oh, that's a good thing to binge on Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Yes. That's a great family. Let's all sit down and watch. She's got to have it. What's a family? My family will all sit down and watch it. They're age appropriate. They're age appropriate.
Starting point is 00:43:09 We got more with the cast of She's Got to Have It when we come back. So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:43:23 We're talking with the cast of She's Got to Have It. Charlamagne? How was it working with The Breakfast Club, was talking with the cast of She's Gotta Have It. Charlamagne? I wasn't working with Spike because, I mean, all of y'all look like thespians. Like, y'all have the thespian look. There's a lot. Yeah. So I wasn't working with him. He's a legend.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I always qualify it as Spike courtside at a Knicks game. Like, that's Spike. Take that Spike and then put him on a film set, and that's what you got. It's that high energy. It's very fast and furious. He's still such an artist, which you don't get with a lot of directors who have had his experience. Like, normally they're a little jaded. They come in, they're like, what are we doing today?
Starting point is 00:43:55 But Spike came in every day, you know, with this energy. And you're like, I got to match it, you know. And he keeps you on your toes because he's just like, yeah, we're not doing that today. We're doing this. And you're like, okay, OK, OK, OK. So go memorize this. Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:44:08 The lessons you learn on set with that man, just like you come up every day, like your game elevates on a daily basis, just being around him. And it's I'm not trying to like like to his horn. It's just a fact you get around somebody like Spike. Yeah. Yeah. Does Mars suck on Nola's a** in this one? Nah, but he sucks on her toes.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Hey! And he talks about it too. Nah, nah. I don't have to, but I talk about it though. I talk about it. But he would do it if it cost him. Hell yeah, he would suck on Nola's toes. Whatever she want.
Starting point is 00:44:40 You know what I mean? Now, what about Nola's friends? Right. That was my favorite, like, edition of the update. Like, oh, Nola has friends. Hey. One of them actually used to be her roommate. One of them used to be her roommate.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Her type A friend used to be her roommate. And then her around the way friend, played by Chyna Lane, who was one of my favorite actresses. Yeah, what's up, baby? And that's also one of my favorite storylines. The, like, actually dealing with black girl body issues because no one, everyone just thinks we're like, I'm confident and I love myself at all times, you know? But yeah, Nola's friends are everything in our update.
Starting point is 00:45:16 And they're not judgmental. No. Because sometimes if you have a friend and you're like, okay, I'm sleeping with three different guys, they're like, girl, we got to talk. Yeah. Because there's no reason, if you knew somebody in real life that was like, okay, I'm sleeping with three different guys. They're like, girl, we got to talk. Because there's no reason. If you knew somebody in real life that was like that character,
Starting point is 00:45:28 would you think that she had some issues? She's a freak. She's a sex addict. What would you say? They would call her a hoe. They would call her a hoe. There'll be names. And there'll be names for Fanola in 2017.
Starting point is 00:45:38 There's going to be some people who are going to be like, are you crazy? What imagery are you putting out there? Yeah, there already people are like that. But I think, again, we're addressing things that are actually happening. And just like, you know, people coming out of the closet for other things. We coming out of the closet with this issue because people are doing it. And by the way, guys don't get props for that anymore.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Yeah, but you see, you say that, but guys don't get props for that anymore. I mean, maybe it's because I'm older. I look at dudes and I'm like, yeah. You slept with her. You slept with two girls in one day? Good for you. I mean, that's just me. Be equally judgmental
Starting point is 00:46:05 That's because he's older I'm like you got the energy To do that See that's how I feel I'm there You have the energy It's not about the morals Damn I don't
Starting point is 00:46:13 I don't got the energy So it's not because You think it's nasty It's just you don't Got the energy It's both I think it's nasty But 20
Starting point is 00:46:18 10 years ago No I think I think it's the energy thing Plus I just think It is It is kind of nasty In this day and age With all these STDs flying around. Well, I will say this because I feel like, you know, I've seen the whole series and I did not see any close-ups of the condom wrappers that are on the nightside table.
Starting point is 00:46:34 So anyone watching, just know that there were condom wrappers on the nightside table. Y'all gonna get that. Why do people care about stuff like that? That's why I'm getting mad at InstaKill about that. Because it's not correct. Like, it's not correct. Like, it's just not, like you just said, we're not in a space where we just, like, can walk in and be like,
Starting point is 00:46:52 oh, my God, yes. There's a certain responsibility that has to be taken. Yeah, put on a condom. Especially if you're going to live that kind of lifestyle. You got to be responsible. Be safe. Got to be safe. My last question is, where does She's Got to Have It, where is it going to fit into, like, this new black Hollywood renaissance
Starting point is 00:47:04 I think we're seeing in film and television? Iconic. I mean, yeah, she's one of our only cinematic icons. I was trying to think about it the other day, and I was like, Cleopatra Jones, Foxy Brown, Nola Darling, maybe Homegirl from Love Jones. You know what I mean? Like Nia's character from Love Jones.
Starting point is 00:47:22 But we don't have many and anytime anyone like you know puts it near insecure, I'm like that's because we only have two shows where it's a chocolate black girl in her 20s. That's the only reason why it's a point of comparison because there's just, right now there's just
Starting point is 00:47:39 two. So you know, we happen to be a part of the lexicon and more more more more more. Did you guys change your views to be a part of the lexicon and more more more more more more stories did you guys change your views on relationships and kind of the I guess model
Starting point is 00:47:51 for what a woman is and what a man is while you were filming this did any of your views change for me for me what I try to do is just look at from Jamie Overtree's
Starting point is 00:48:00 point of view and not worry about these other guys and I think and I think and I think I think Spike subconsciously or maybe purposely shot it like that. Because I never saw these guys.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Until it was time. Until it was time. But I was always on set, just me and Nola. And I'm like, is there anybody else in this movie? I would never see these guys. I might pass them in the hallway, you know, when I'm done and they're coming in or something like that. So I didn't really have to think about what's going on with them. But did it change your views in real life?
Starting point is 00:48:31 Just doing this and coming across a character like Nola Darling? Like the project itself, it makes you think. It makes you think and then, you know, you kind of have your opinions about it. But did I make a final decision on how I felt? No, because I'm kind of also waiting on how it's received by the people because that's where it all lies. Well, personally, it didn't change my views. I've always had that mentality that, you know, you do you.
Starting point is 00:48:53 And if we're communicating and you got things to do over here, this part of town, you're going to be gone. Because, you know, in the industry we are, sometimes we're away for months at a time. You take care of yourself and be safe. And when I see you, then we'll, you know, have some fun. And we just, sometimes we're away for months at a time. You take care of yourself and be safe. And when I see you, then we'll, you know, have some fun.
Starting point is 00:49:07 And we just, you know, let it ride. Still a player. Still a player. But it's like, I'll be a player, but you be a player. You know, you do your thing
Starting point is 00:49:14 and we'll keep it real with each other and no one gets hurt. I just wonder, when do you stop playing? Because if the girl, say you start liking the girl and then you're like,
Starting point is 00:49:22 you know what, I think we need to get serious. She's like, no. She's like, no. Watch the show. That's what. I'm like, maybe that're like, you know what, I think we need to get serious. You're like, no. She's like, no. Watch the show. That's what. Yeah. I'm like, maybe that'll be season three.
Starting point is 00:49:27 We'll see. And men are so competitive. It's hard to think that, like, you know, they also want to make sure they're the one. They're the best. It's the ego, right? That must be hard on your vagina, though, because if I'm with you, I'm trying to knock it out because I know he's trying to knock it out, and I know he's trying to knock it out. Does knock it out mean aggressive? Like, what's knocking out has to be out. But does knock it out mean aggressive? Like, what's knock it out have to be so?
Starting point is 00:49:45 But I think it's... Violent. But it's just really her taking three dudes and smushing them into one person. Honestly, one being for herself. So it's like she's probably sleeping with these three guys as much as she would probably sleep with one person. But she's just getting all the flavors of, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:50:07 as opposed to one. As dudes, we think about it from a physical, and she's coming from purely emotional. Is she coming from purely emotional? She got to have it. Okay, then. I'm going to co-sign with you, man. You must be hurting then.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Women always say they want more than one man until all of y'all pull up together and y'all like, what's up? Yeah, exactly. We're all coming in. Be careful what you ask. We're all coming in. Be careful what you ask for.
Starting point is 00:50:37 That's what I can't wait until like season two or three when y'all just run a train on it. That's going to be awesome. She's over. God, I love you. We hope you're 23rd, Thanksgiving Day.
Starting point is 00:50:47 We appreciate you guys for joining us. Thanks for having us. Thank you, man. Now, if it wasn't Trey, who would go first? I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Come on. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Charlemagne, say the gang donkey under shade. Charlemagne.
Starting point is 00:51:00 You are a donkey. It's time for donkey of the day. Donkey of the day does not discriminate. I might not time for Donkey of the Day. Donkey of the Day does not discriminate. I might not have the song of the day, but I got the donkey of the day. So if you ever feel I need to be a donkey, man, hit it with the heat. It's a breakfast club, bitches. Who's donkey of the day today?
Starting point is 00:51:19 Yes, donkey of the day goes to me, Charlemagne Tha God. Now, the reason it's going to me is because I consider myself a pretty thoughtful guy. I pay attention to what's going on in the world for the most part. But something has hit me over the past year or so, and it's been heavy on my spirit all week. I feel like intellectually and morally, America is declining as a society. I feel like people aren't being morally honest anymore. Moral honesty to me is regardless of what you believe, regardless of your religion, regardless of your political party, you are able to call something right or wrong with no bias, okay? For example, you know, if you're a white
Starting point is 00:51:55 military veteran and you love America, but when you see people taking a knee during the national anthem, and then when you are told why they are doing it because of the injustice that African Americans are facing in this country at the hands of the police, if you are morally honest with yourself, you will say, I understand. Even if you don't agree with the way they are protesting, you understand why they are protesting. That's being morally honest, okay? Being morally dishonest is acting like they're just being disrespectful to the military and disregarding the flag because they hate America. Now, why am I giving myself donkey of the day? Because I feel stupid that I am just now realizing that a lot of us men in America have been raised on rape culture. Now, the first time I heard the term rape culture, I was like, what is rape culture?
Starting point is 00:52:34 Either you rape a woman or you don't. But as I have learned what rape culture is, let me read the definition for you. Rape culture is a sociological concept used to describe a setting in which rape is pervasive and normalized due to society's attitudes about gender and sexuality. Rape culture is perpetuated through the use of misogynistic language and objectification of women's bodies and the glamorization of sexual violence. My brothers, if we are being morally honest with ourselves, if you are a certain age like I am, you was born in the late 70s or 80s or hell older than that. You are absolutely positively raised on rape culture. I feel bad and extremely dumb that I didn't realize
Starting point is 00:53:11 this earlier in my life. I don't care if it was Freaknik, Miami Memorial Weekend, Myrtle Beach Black Biker Weekend. It was never normal to feel like you can grab a woman's ass just because it's fat and she's got on biker shorts with Davey Dukes. It was never normal to grab a woman's breasts just because, you know, you saw in Dr. Dre's Nothing But A G Thing video when the girl was playing volleyball and they ran up behind her and pulled her bikini top off. If you ever mimicked that kind of behavior, it wasn't normal. Okay, if you are in a fraternity and you ever had women come over and you got them high and got them drunk, you know, that whole ain't no fun if the homies can't have none mentality. You and the rest of your frat ran a train on the girl. My brothers, that wasn't normal.
Starting point is 00:53:49 It was rape culture, okay? Movies like Revenge of the Nerds and Kids. Remember those where guys would have sex with passed out women or dress up as other people in order to trick the woman to have sex with them? That was rape culture. Remember Porky's? Remember sneaking up late to watch Porky's where they was drilling holes in the wall and peeping at the girls?
Starting point is 00:54:07 I got homeboys in college who would be hitting chicks from the back and then another homeboy would come in and start hitting the chick from the back without asking her consent and we would get drunk and high with women and they would get inebriated and then we would sleep with them. I'm sorry, my brothers. All of that was rape culture. Hell, I look at some of the things I used to say to women in interviews
Starting point is 00:54:24 here on The Breakfast Club, and I'm like, bro, you was wildin'. So when I see all of these sexual allegations coming out over the past couple years from Bill Cosby to Harvey Weinstein to Louis C.K., I don't know if it's because I'm older, but I'm looking at them like, why has this type of pervasion been normalized? And I think it's because a lot of brothers don't think they're doing anything wrong because it's been a common theme in our lives for way too long.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Now, I don't know if it's because I'm actually listening to women more and not having these discussions about rape culture with guys because that's what we do as men. We start having conversations about rape culture with each other. That's why we don't learn anything. And it's so normalized to us that we make excuses about why we do what we do, have done what we've done, that that's where the whole victim
Starting point is 00:55:05 blaming thing comes into play. And you know, there's just no excuse. It's not about what the woman wore or what time she was at your house. It's all about accountability. We are in the age of accountability. And if we are being personally accountable and being morally honest, we just have to admit that we were raised on rape culture and it was wrong.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Okay? We were absolutely, we are absolutely in the age of accountability. And if you're not holding yourself personally accountable, the universe was wrong. Okay, we were absolutely, we are absolutely in the age of accountability. And if you're not holding yourself personally accountable, the universe will hold you accountable because we see all these people who have been doing dirt in the dark all these years being brought to the light. And I would just encourage everyone to start being morally honest and just admit we were raised on this pervasive rape culture, but we can unlearn all the BS we have learned and make things better moving forward.
Starting point is 00:55:44 And it's not like people haven't been trying to tell us this for years. We just haven't been listening. Okay. I was once part of the problem, but now I want to be part of the solution. And the first step to that solution is recognizing that you can't hear what we don't reveal and what we need to reveal and be morally honest about as men is that a lot of us men in America were raised on rape culture. okay? And I truly feel stupid, okay, for not coming to that realization sooner. So please give Charlemagne Tha God the biggest
Starting point is 00:56:11 heart, please. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ N.V. Angela Yee, Charlemagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, sir. Keisha K.R.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Yes. You look like money. Thank you. Like a real bag of money. I'm going to ask you a question. Somebody texted me yesterday. My homegirl literally texted me this yesterday. She's from Charleston, South Carolina.
Starting point is 00:56:39 4.49 p.m. Do you think it's possible that the Wapsters may have possibly single-handedly saved a black family? You have to answer that question, Charlamagne. I said J and B, but she said people respect ghetto love more. I said, well, J from the ghetto from what we know, you know what I mean? Like, you know, I get what she's trying to say. They could relate to it more probably because of his whole background and things like that. That's what I'm thinking.
Starting point is 00:57:04 All right. Now, tell us how you guys met, first of all. Let's start early. How did you meet Gucci Mane? Okay, Gucci was locked up. It was 2009, 2010, and he saw me in the XXL magazine. I was eye candy model of the year, and he reached out to Amina and was like, who is this girl?
Starting point is 00:57:20 I'm coming out next week. I got this video I want to shoot. Make sure you book her. So Amina reached out to me, and I was like, I don't want to do no video because I didn't out next week. I got this video I want to shoot. Make sure you book her. So Amina reached out to me and I was like, I don't want to do no video. Because I didn't really, I didn't know him. So anyway, long story short, she booked me. I did the video.
Starting point is 00:57:32 We met. And that's how it all started. And I read Gucci's book. He said when he first saw you, he said, he told you, you're going to be my wife. He did. Now, a lot of times guys say that just because that's good game to say. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:43 I didn't believe him, obviously, you know. And I judged him based on how people perceived him from the Internet. I was like, whatever. But the guy was charming. He was a gentleman. He opened the door. He held my hand. And I was, like, so shocked and so surprised.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Now, you weren't scared at first because we call Gucci Mane the boogeyman of hip-hop. Especially back then. You weren't a little terrified? I wasn't scared of him at all. Not at all. Because he didn't show me that. I never saw that side of him. Like I said, I saw it on the internet.
Starting point is 00:58:12 But when I met the guy, I was like, he's so different. The Gucci you guys are seeing today, that's the Gucci I've met. Got you. That charming person. Now, we heard rumors when he got locked up, he gave you... Two million dollars. I don't know if it was two million or a couple million dollars. And you got locked up, he gave you... $2 million. I don't know if it was $2 million. It was $2 million.
Starting point is 00:58:27 And you flipped it to six. And you flipped it to six. Is there truth to that? Yeah, there's truth to it. He gave me some money, and he came home to a lot more. What was you doing? You were selling dope, too?
Starting point is 00:58:35 Nah. Nah, I wasn't no dope dealer. You know, I invested the money. I started some businesses, and everything I did, I spoke to him about it, and he was like, go for it, and I did it, and it worked out., I invested the money. I started some businesses and everything I did, I spoke to him about it. He was like, go for it. And I did it and it worked out. So that was the cosmetics line,
Starting point is 00:58:49 the waist trainers, right? My cosmetic line I had in 2009, 2010. Gucci got locked in 2013. So, no, it didn't have anything to do with the cosmetics. I started the waist trainer when he got locked up. Now, what made you wait?
Starting point is 00:59:07 I mean, he was vending out of jail a lot of the time. But that was a little long stretch. What made you say, you know what, I'm going to hold him down? Honestly, I felt like it was the worst time for him. Like, he was looking at about 20 years. We wasn't sure how much time he was going to get. And in my heart, I couldn't walk away from him. I knew he needed me not only to just support him but he needed guidance and I
Starting point is 00:59:28 felt like I had to be there for this man to make him a better person. Gotcha. Now, do you have three kids in Jamaica? That's what inquiring minds want to know as well. Absolutely not and I'm glad you asked me that, Charlamagne, because I came to America when I was 10. So a lot of people are thinking, oh, from
Starting point is 00:59:43 what I've seen on the Internet, she came here when she was 17, 18, left all the kids in Jamaica to be with this rapper guy. Absolutely false. They said it was your sister that said that. Your sister that started that rumor allegedly. You said you don't have a sister. I don't have a sister.
Starting point is 00:59:57 I don't have a sister. Tanya and I were friends. You know what I mean? Straight up. We all refer to each other as sis, but she's not my sister. So she was the one that kind of created this rumor, you believe, allegedly. Honestly, I don't think Tanya started it. We've been told that the day we got married that blogs were being paid to discredit our wedding,
Starting point is 01:00:16 to discredit me, and to discredit our marriage. Because if you notice, it all spiraled while we were getting married on the TV. Right. Who would want to pay blogs for that, though? Man, people are evil, Angela. You just don't know. It's so bad. Oh, I know.
Starting point is 01:00:31 They are evil. I think they're going through something right now. Oh, you didn't hear about the Envy scandal? Oh, I did. Okay. I did. But I didn't believe it. Like, I'm the type of person, like, I don't.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Be honest, Keisha. Did you believe it a little bit? No, because he's married. What does that mean? I didn't believe it. You live in Atlanta. You know how it goes. I didn't believe it.
Starting point is 01:00:48 And then I'm listening to his response and he's like, he's calm and he's laughing. Usually when people get upset they're lying. The man ain't lying. He got upset behind the scenes. Well, I didn't hear it. I don't believe you, Charlamagne. You think that having your wedding on television
Starting point is 01:01:04 did make you like, because what happens is when people see that, obviously people want to go ahead and try to make the worst out of anything and bring up all kinds of claims and, you know. Absolutely. It's kind of a miserable time for other people. And I'm like, God damn, we were just, your relationship goes yesterday. Now we getting married today. All y'all coming for me with these abandoned children in Jamaica
Starting point is 01:01:24 and they Photoshopped four kids with Gucci in the middle. It was so bad. I'm like, what the hell? Can I enjoy my husband for a couple hours before y'all start with me? How many kids do you have? Gucci and I both have children. You know, we do. And it's a situation where I am proud to be a mother,
Starting point is 01:01:44 but at the same time, I need it to be private. I don't want the kids in the limelight. I don't want them on social media. I need them to go to school and to just be children. You know, it's never a situation where they're left with my mom. They all live with us. And we have a blended family and we have fun and they spoiled and they happy. And then they were at the wedding.
Starting point is 01:02:05 They were all at the wedding. Because that's how it went at first. Oh, she left the kids. The kids can't eat. No. Absolutely false. And you say you left Jamaica at 10, so I don't think you was popping that pom-pom that early in. Not at all. People are wicked. Jesus. I didn't know you was really Jamaican.
Starting point is 01:02:20 No, I'm Jamaican. You never heard her speak before? No, I just haven't. And when I heard them say three kids left in Jamaica, why she had three kids in Jamaica? They said she's from Jamaica, but you're really Jamaican. You know how to cook oxtail and jerk chicken and all that good stuff. Oh, that's how I got the man. The food. That's why Gucci had that big stomach
Starting point is 01:02:37 back in the day, huh? Nah, that was lean. Straight up. There was also rumors that Gucci didn't invite his mom Or his brother Or something like that His mom and his brother Weren't invited
Starting point is 01:02:47 His oldest brother Was our best man At the wedding His mom and his younger brother Was not there But y'all gotta ask Gucci About that one Listen
Starting point is 01:02:55 I think family's overrated Alright I don't be caring About stuff like that When I hear them stories I be like Okay and I feel like that too
Starting point is 01:03:04 Sometimes you have family and you'll have a friend and you're closer to the friend than you are your family. It doesn't mean anything, you know? Like the family, like how you and Gucci got married and y'all decided,
Starting point is 01:03:15 y'all made those choices. We did. And at our wedding, we wanted everyone at our wedding to be positive. We didn't want any negativity there. We didn't want anyone that didn't truly love us. We didn't want any negativity there. We didn't want anyone that didn't truly love us.
Starting point is 01:03:27 We didn't care about anyone else's feelings but our own. It's our wedding. We are allowed to be selfish on that day and we wanted our ceremony to be filled with love. That's what a wedding is. It's about love. We got more with Keisha K.O. when we come back. Don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We have Keisha K.O. in the building. Charlamagne. Keisha, why did y'all show the wedding first and then show what happened leading up to it afterwards? Well, BET came up with that idea
Starting point is 01:03:58 and we kind of went along with it because, as you know, 10-17 is a big day for Gucci. You know, if he's not dropping an album, it's a mixtape, a concert, something for his fans. So we wanted the fans to be a part of the wedding, and then BET also thought it would be cool to show the wedding. But also the two finales is the entire wedding. That wasn't the entire wedding.
Starting point is 01:04:19 It was just us walking. You have the reception, you have the lead up, and so much more. What was the most expensive gift that you got? The most lavish gift? Because I've seen checks, I've seen diamonds. Cars.
Starting point is 01:04:29 My car, the Wraith. The Wraith was a... But from the guests. How many from the guests? Oh, from the guests. Oh, this necklace here. Pierre bought it. Who was Pierre?
Starting point is 01:04:39 Oh, Pierre from QC? Yeah, so I got the key and Gucci got the lock. Oh, I saw they posted that. And he gave y'all a $100,000 check, Annie? He sure did. Well, y'all friends rich.
Starting point is 01:04:49 You got rich friends too, Charlamagne. I do. They don't give me none. After this docuseries of the wedding, are you guys going to do more television? Or are you like, all right. At this point, I don't know. I, you know, everybody has this stuff with reality shows. But if it's something I do decide to do, Gucci and I will come to a decision together.
Starting point is 01:05:09 I know he ain't doing it. It would just be me. But I haven't thought, I want to see how this works first before I get caught up into all that stuff. So what do you think, would you say are some of the positives and what are some of the negatives of having your wedding on television? The positive is you get to share it with people and they, you know, you put them in your world for that moment. The negativity was the hate. It was so much hate behind it. And I was really shocked. I didn't expect it. I knew the hate would come, but not the day of the wedding. You know, like I said, people are being paid to discredit
Starting point is 01:05:44 us and to just do these evil things. But at the end of the day, I can't even front. I'm not like hurt and terrified. It's okay. If you got the bashes or do whatever you want, go ahead. Because our union is so strong. You know, we've been through the worst. It can't get no worse than that man being in a maximum security prison.
Starting point is 01:06:03 It's ain't jail. You know what I mean? He was in a real prison where they even took me to the bathroom one day to strip search me. It's so strict. That's the biggest prison in Terre Haute. Like, if you're going to get the chair, that's where you go. You know, so it was rough. So inmates were dying every day.
Starting point is 01:06:21 I would call down there and can't even get Gucci. And the response is, he ain't dead, he good, but he can't talk to you right now. Like, this is, it was rough. So the little belittling and all the hate that they're doing to us, it doesn't compare. So we went through hell and back and we're okay. So keep hating if you need to.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Why do you think Kaya was so upset? She took it really personal. What was crazy about that? I don't know, Kaya. I didn't know anything about her until that day. I mean, of course, I heard of my neck, my back, but I was shocked. I'm like, what did I do to you? But I heard that she doesn't like Trina.
Starting point is 01:06:54 So I'm wondering if it's because she saw Trina in the wedding. I'm really not sure. What did I do to you, ma'am, for you to come at me like this? The kids suffering and never. And what's weird is my family in Jamaica are so upset because I take care of all of them. You know, I feed them. I build them houses, buy them cars,
Starting point is 01:07:13 take care of my little cousins. And they're like, they're so angry. You know what that means? It's so bad. Oh, they mad. That means voodoo. Roots. Oh, no, we don't do that.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Chicken bones about to be buried. Girl's going to start losing edges for no reason. Kaya about to lose all her edges. We don't do no voodoo, Charlotte. That's what Kaya said. She said voodoo put voodoo on the man. Well, there was some good voodoo. You said something interesting. You said the Gucci that we see now
Starting point is 01:07:38 you always knew. What do you think made him finally reveal that to the world? I feel like he's a grown man and he decided he wanted to change his life. You don't have to walk around upset every day anymore. You're okay. You're happy. It's okay to be happy.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Like I told him, I said, it's okay for me to love you. Allow me to love you. Because a lot of time you have these gangsters, they going through, but they don't share it. You know, so I kind of like broke it down to him. Like, I love you. You need to come home to me. And I want you to be a better person for yourself in order for you to be a better man for me. And we just spoke every day about it until I saw, you know, people are like, oh, it's
Starting point is 01:08:15 jail talk. But I'm like, I see it. This man is changing. And when he came home, it was confirmation. In the book, it was a couple of times you left him because you were a little fed up. Like you talked about, like after that Twitter rant that he went on, you wasn't, you put him on ice. Yeah, I mean. Tell us about that day because that was a crazy day, crazy morning.
Starting point is 01:08:32 I was shocked that I saw him going through his rant, but I didn't expect him to come for me. Because I was the angel. I'm like the baby. Right. When he did that, I'm like, what is wrong with you? You know, and he started screaming on the phone and i hung up the phone but immediately after he was like i'm so sorry i love you but then two days after that he went to prison so he was just going through so much you know and i just i
Starting point is 01:08:59 honestly felt like that sentence changed him were you surprised so many people forgave him? No, because they know he was going through it. I forgave him immediately. I think everything he did, he didn't really do it intentionally. Yeah, I mean, in his book, he's very open. I mean, about the drug use and how he just was out of his mind. He was. The lean.
Starting point is 01:09:21 You know, and what's crazy is I've never seen him take the lean. He would hide it from me. Nothing he did, he showed it to me. Really? Nothing. Never seen him drink the lean. I hide it from me nothing he did he showed it to me really never seen him drink the lean i mean i knew he was doing it but he respected me so much that he hid all that stuff from me because i am not that woman that's gonna sit here and watch you just damage your life i'm gonna be like you can't do this this isn't right you know so i feel like that's another reason why he respects me so much more because it's like I tell him you
Starting point is 01:09:45 I'm not a yes man Tim you got to do better babe I love you fix this for you please now a lot of people talk about how jail doesn't rehab people do you feel like for Gucci it was kind of actually maybe in the end of everything a positive thing for him because it did get him off the drugs have him sit down think about his life some more and come out as a better person. Absolutely. You know, he's been locked up several times and it didn't rehab him before, but it did this time. Like I said, this was serious. It wasn't you just going to Fulton County Jail.
Starting point is 01:10:17 You're in a maximum security prison. Inmates are dying every day. You're facing 20 years. You have your career. You have your woman at home. Which is it? So it was like, now you have to choose. And I felt we prayed so much and asked God to help us.
Starting point is 01:10:33 And we feel like God answered all our prayers. And your return favor is to change. So I feel like that's really what happened. Now, y'all are a unit. What does Gucci have that you don't have? And what do you have that he doesn't have? Like, what do y'all add to each other to make yourselves a complete unit? Well, Gucci is super intelligent and he's super smart.
Starting point is 01:10:54 So am I. I think we both just bring everything to the table. We have a household of two incomes. You know, I do everything for him as a wife should do. I cook. I pack his bags, I clean up. I, you know, I just, I feel like everything as a man he should do, he does, and everything as a wife should do, I do. So we just, it makes it even better.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Good West Indian woman. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I take care of my man, honey, yes, and I wash his back if I need to. All right, we got more with Keisha K.O. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Angela Yee. Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We have Keisha K.O. in the building. Now, Charlamagne. Now, people say that it's easy to forgive a man when he's well off, Keisha. Like if he was to, God forbid, do some dirt with another woman,
Starting point is 01:11:46 would it be easy to forgive because he is Gucci, man? Not this woman. You know, like I said, I love Gucci, but I'm not going to sit there and allow anyone to disrespect me because he's Gucci. Yeah. No, I have morals and principles, and I'm a woman. I'm a mother.
Starting point is 01:12:04 I'm a daughter, and I'm a woman. I'm a mother. I'm a daughter and I have to respect myself. So when in order for a man to respect you, you got to respect yourself. So no, I'm not going to sit there and allow him to do anything because of who he is. But you know we're retarded sometimes. Men can be a little retarded. Sometimes we have a little lapse in judgment. You know what I'm saying? If we make
Starting point is 01:12:19 one little mistake. But he's made a lot of mistakes. You're supposed to learn from him. Yeah, he has. He has and I trust him so much now. I don't even have to worry about anything. Sometimes you got to go through a lot. You have to. How do you know when to trust a man? Like, how do you know when a man is completely changed and rehabilitated and you know he's doing right by you?
Starting point is 01:12:36 You feel it. That woman intuition. Like, you know. Like, even if he's on the road and I'm not there, I don't have to get up and think, he working, he good. And that's what a marriage is. Like, if you don't feel that way, don't even get married. Or, now is there a prenuptial agreement in place?
Starting point is 01:12:56 No. There's not? No, we don't need none. I mean, if the man trusts me with his whole life and all his money and all of that, then we need a prenup. That's real. He went to jail and left you the bread. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:07 All of it. Everything. Everything. His cars, everything. And that was after knowing him for how long? How long were y'all together? Oh, nine, 2010. About two years.
Starting point is 01:13:17 Yeah. But even for you? No, not two years. It was longer than that. But what's crazy is at the beginning of it, when he wanted to give me all of his money, I said, I don't want it. He offered, he wanted to give me so much money. He's like, babe, I'm away. I want you to, I said, I don't want it. Why didn't you want it? Because I didn't need it. First of all, I was doing so well for myself. One, two, I'm not here for your money. You're locked up. Again, we didn't know how much time he was going to get. I wanted to secure him and make sure he would be okay
Starting point is 01:13:46 for however long time he was going to get. So I didn't take a dollar. Wow. But even for you, you got money. You don't want to have a prenup show to protect your interests? True. And, you know, my mom talked to me about it too. But, again, it's like what we've been through and how our finances are set up now.
Starting point is 01:14:09 It wouldn't even make sense. It would be like, what's the purpose? Now, how do y'all maintain such good shape if you like to cook all this Jamaican food? I don't cook that food every day. Okay. I probably cook like that. When we're in Atlanta, I usually do it on Sundays. That used to be our day.
Starting point is 01:14:25 But from Monday through Saturday, oh no. Salads and fruits. We don't play that game. Right. So y'all do have a strict diet? Yes. I make sure we have a strict diet
Starting point is 01:14:36 and we work out five to six days a week. How do you have a strict diet with those kids and you, Jamaican? Discipline. Discipline. I literally cook the food and don't even eat it. Because it took me a while to get here, though.
Starting point is 01:14:48 This wasn't nothing new. Like, I've been working out for like five years. But when Gucci got locked up, that's when I changed my whole diet. I got so skinny and obsessed with it until I looked thick, seriously. And I had to, like, catch myself. So now I finally understand my body and finally understand what I can eat to maintain my weight. It took a while, but I got it now. Yeah, Gucci said something in the book I'm still trying to figure out.
Starting point is 01:15:10 He said when he was in jail, y'all used to get up and work out together. Yeah. They have a time where they get up every morning. So let's say it's 6 a.m. So we had a whole schedule together. So I would get up the same time with him. I would take the kids to school, come back home, work out. He's working out at the same time.
Starting point is 01:15:24 He shower, I shower. 12 o'clock, 1 o'clock, he calls. We talk about our workout. We talk about our lunch. And we did that every day. Wow. Yeah, every day. So his time would go by faster.
Starting point is 01:15:36 And so he's not, like, I did all of that on purpose to get his mind focused. I didn't want him in there to getting any trouble, to getting more time. So I kind of just did all those things. And I would, you know, fly down there to see him. And we sit in visitation for five, six hours, and I just sit there with him. And you could tell he was really working out because you saw him losing the weight.
Starting point is 01:15:57 It just, the first two months, he lost like 40 pounds because he was detoxing. All that stomach was lean. It wasn't even fat it's hard to get off lean because it's they're constipated they don't go to the bathroom yeah he talked about that in the book yeah yeah so all of that was constipation 40 pounds because he went in like 290 and then the other 50 he had to work hard for that so what good Jamaican remedy would you give him when he was constipated?
Starting point is 01:16:27 He wouldn't, like I said, he wouldn't tell me. He wouldn't tell me. He was hiding all of this from me. And when I would be at the house in Atlanta and I'm coming over, this is stuff he's told me now. He said he would pour the lean in fruit punch to trick me. And I'm like, well, what if I tasted it? Bill Cosby. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:16:44 Did you learn a lot when you read the book that you didn't know? No, I knew everything. And he was writing the book from jail, and he would mail me the sheets because I heard someone say he didn't write his book. That's absolutely false. He wrote page by page. Even if you read it, you see it's in his own language, his own words. He wrote that book page by page and mailed it,
Starting point is 01:17:04 and then I would mail it to the people to print it up in the book. Were you ever concerned like when he was in the street that people would come after you because they knew you were like the closest person to him? No. Growing up in Jamaica, I witnessed my dad being murdered. What part of Jamaica? Kingston? St. Thomas.
Starting point is 01:17:20 St. Thomas. That's another reason why I'm so protective over the children. Because his own friends set him up to be murdered. So I kind of been through that life. So I understand him. You know, nothing he did scared me. I was never scared of him. Even when sometimes he's going through it, I would fly to Atlanta like, yo, what's wrong with you? Talk to me. You know, I don't fear that type of stuff because I seen it as a young child growing up
Starting point is 01:17:48 and I just want to always protect him. Sometimes I feel like I'm his security, knowing I can't do nothing. Like, if people come at him, I'm like, you know. But no. So you saw your father get killed in front of you? Yeah, he was coming home one night and they were outside waiting in the bushes
Starting point is 01:18:04 for him to walk in and they shot him in his head. So we were inside. How old were you? Ten. Damn. We left Jamaica a week later after that. Were y'all scared for the rest of the family? Both.
Starting point is 01:18:15 My mom was like, we got to go. We can't stay here. He was wealthy. So they would rob him and, you know, just, and they finally murdered him. How did you get over that trauma? Or have you? I'm over it. I'm okay.
Starting point is 01:18:30 Gucci reminds me so much of him. So it's like everything that Gucci has done in the past, I forgive him. I'm cool with it. Like, if somebody do something to you and you have to defend yourself, then you got to defend yourself. We look forward to seeing more of the show and we appreciate you for joining us. I'm ready for you to write a book. I want to hear more. I want to write one, too, because my life is very interesting.
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