The Breakfast Club - The Heart Of the Culture"

Episode Date: May 9, 2022

Today on the show, its only right they started off the show with Kendrick Lamar's new song "The Heart part 5". Next we had friend to the room Ja Rule stop by where he spoke about ICONN, Murder Inc Documentary, Parenting, Harvard Business Degree and more They also had Marc Lamont Hill stop by where he spoke about his new book "Seen and Unseen", how visual media shifting the narrative,  the skepticals of death and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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DJ Enzi, Angela Yee, and Charlamagne Tha God. The Breakfast Club, bitches. Break the f*** up. Good morning, USA! Yes, it's Monday We back for another work week What's happening? Back to the work week Hopefully everybody had a great Mother's Day Shout out to all the moms out there

Yes, happy Mother's Day, Mama Nice two-hour weekend we had That's what it feels like, right? Well, I went to go see Mary J. Blige She had her first ever Strength of a Woman Festival and Summit in Atlanta It was great It was a sold-out concert And then they had panels all day at the Gathering Spot Another place I love to frequent when I'm in Atlanta. It was great. It was a sold-out concert, and then they had panels all day at the Gathering Spot,

another place I love to frequent when I'm in Atlanta. And it was very successful for the first time for her to be able to do that. So I was talking to Derek Lewis from Pepsi. They were the main sponsor of it, so they're saying next year definitely they'll be doing it again. But shout-out to Mary.

That concert was amazing. It didn't even feel like, you know how sometimes you go to a concert, it was like a party inside of the State Farm Arena. So shout out to Mary J. Blige. And she was, you know,

she was doing panels herself. She was very involved. You could tell it meant a lot to her. So I just appreciate being able to be there, escape, perform. Method Man came out with Mary, so that was really dope. Dope. Yeah. I'm dropping a Clues be there, escape, perform. Method Man came out with Mary, so that was really dope.

Dope. Yeah. I'm dropping the Clues Bonds for the MGB. There's a lot of women there, too. Shout out to all the ladies that were at the Strength of a Woman Festival in summer. It just felt real nice. A lot of sisterhood. Yeah.

Shout out to, I heard it was amazing. Shout out to Pepsi for sponsoring. Shout out to Derek Lewis and the whole Pepsi team. Shout out to the team together from Ashana Airs Agency. Drop on the clues bombs for Ashana. Great weekend full of basketball. Basketball, yeah. You know what it was?

I was at Mama House this week, and I went to Queens and shot the vibes. They catered the event. And, oh, man, it was just good to see Mama and the grandkids and them running around the house and them having a good time. And then Mama was like, look, it's getting late. Y'all got to get up out of here. That's the beauty of being a grandmother. You can run everybody out the house when you're ready to, you know, have your me time.

She was like, I love y'all. I had a great time today, but it's time for y'all to go home. Y'all got school in the morning. Get the hell out of my house. Don't drop on the clues box for all the mothers out there. Hope you enjoyed yourselves. All the grandmothers out there, hope you enjoyed yourselves yesterday. Hope you got some R&R this weekend.

Alright, well, Ja Rule will be joining us this morning. Okay. Ja Rule. We're going to kick it with Ja Rule in a little bit. And we got front page news, right? I thought they did Mark Lamont Hill too, right? For Seen and Unseen. That was on the schedule. That wasn't on the schedule? I thought I saw that on the schedule. Mm-mm.

Okay. Alright, well, we got front page news. What are we talking about? Yes, well, since you talked about basketball and the NBA, we'll talk about Chris Paul and he was not happy with what was going on during the game

and that's with the fans, not even on the court. All right. We'll talk about it when we come back. Let's get into it. Are we about to play the new Kendrick?

Yes, we are. Oh, that was big this weekend, too. It's called The Heart, part five. And you better enjoy it now because nine times out of ten it ain't going to be on the album, because the hearts never are. But let's get into it right now. It's five minutes long.

Sit back, relax, and wake your ass up. I wish you could see it. I wish we had a way to show you the visual. Yeah. You know? I mean, that was trending all weekend, but we'll talk about the visual. Just what came out last night, but yeah. All right. It's The Breakfast Club.

Good morning. Let's get real. Just what came out last night, but yeah. All right. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wow. Yes, Kendrick. K-Dot. Wow. My good brother to prove boss with Kendrick Lamar. Yes, Kendrick. K-Dot. Wow. You know, my good brother Resmaa Minicom says, trauma in a people decontextualized over time looks like culture. Feels like that's what Kendrick is speaking to on the Heart Part 5, man.

Friday can't come fast enough. It doesn't make even sense to go to Front Page News, man. We might as well do Front Page News next hour, man. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, call us up right now. Let us know how your weekend was, what you did. Was it great? If it wasn't great,

phone lines are wide open. 800-585-1051. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Let's go. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club.

So if you got something on your mind, lady. Hello, who's this? Hey, good morning, Breakfast Club. This is Todd from Chicago. How y'all feeling? Hey, Todd, what's happening? Get it off your chest. Yeah, man, we've had kind of a rough weekend.

But, you know, shout out to everybody that, you know, didn't really get a chance to celebrate with their mothers. My mother and grandmother transitioned, so that was really more of a time of celebration for me. Damn. Sorry to hear that, brother. It's all good, man. So shout out to everybody that's going through it. But I did have an annoying weekend. I had to, like, break up with my girlfriend and stuff because she said she couldn't really trust me.

I went to a movie twice with Doctor Strange, and I ain't see it with her. And I ain't really tell her about it either. She was kind of mad about that. Why you ain't take your queen with you to see Doctor Strange, bro? Because she don't understand it like I do, man. Like, I just want to watch it, understand it, and then she gonna have questions and then I'll be able to, you know,

talk to her and do all this stuff. But, you know, she just felt like, just because I tell her, that ain't lying, right? No, it is lying. And I'll tell you something,

if you was gonna go see it twice anyway, you might as well have made one of those times with her. I fell asleep on the first one. That's why I had

to go back again. It sounds a little shaky. What? No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I don't get shaky. She thought I was playing around.

And I'm like, I ain't going to see it with nobody. I can understand that. You went to the movies twice. You didn't tell her the intention. What were you doing during that time that you just don't mention that? Well, she had hit me up. I was just saying I was chilling. I didn't even say nothing.

That's all. I just said I was chilling. Why didn't you tell her? I don't understand. I do agree with you. I do agree that's not a movie you go see with a casual comic book fan. But now you done turned it into a big deal. She figures it, but it's not, though.

That's the thing. I feel like I should be able to go see a movie without having to explain myself. We're not married. You can't. You're right. But you should have told her. I live by myself. Nobody said that you had to explain it.

But if you just were missing for a few hours. To just say, hey, mom, I'm going to the movie to see this kind of movie. The only reason it came up was because my boy put me on the spot. We was at Jim Drake's at the bar. Oh, man. He ended up coming up with a conversation. He was like, oh, well, he already saw it twice. You want to know?

So now how come your boy knew that and your girl didn't if it's not a big deal? Your boy was trying to be funny. And by the way, it's only a violation if it's a show or movie that both of y'all enjoy. Like, you know, that's when you feel like somebody did something wrong. Like, my wife watches Ozark. I don't watch Ozark. I don't care if she watches Ozark or not. Would you think it was weird if she just went to the movies and just never mentioned it to you

and then you found out from one of her friends? Would it seem a little weird? Well, I mean, I guess, but not really. If I feel like if she's played it, you know, not really a big deal. But I just feel like you can go see yourself. If you don't got to tell me every movie you make, it's feel like if she's waited, you know, not really a big deal but I just feel like you can go see yourself. If you don't gotta tell me every move you make,

it's just like, I ain't gotta tell you every move I make. I know, I just wanna say, I just wanna say you gotta look at it from her point of view too

and I don't think it's anything worth breaking up over but it's probably a bigger conversation. You're saying, I don't gotta tell you every move I make,

da-da-da-da-da. You know, she probably just wants you all to communicate. Nobody's saying you gotta, something small, like I went to the store, but you went to the movies twice.

Well, they broke up, though, so. Sheesh. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.

Wake up, wake up. Wake your ass up. This is your time to get it off your chest whether you're mad or blessed we want to hear from you on the breakfast club hello who's this good morning good morning it's Daquan Daquan Orlando yes I'm a big fan of you guys

from day one since the Ray J interview so I'm a big fan that was early so listen I want to ask you guys for your So I'm a big fan. Thank you. That was early. So listen, I want to ask you guys for your opinion. I'm not sure if you guys have heard about the new allegation against the Black Lives Matter. Okay.

So what are you guys' thoughts about that? What do you think? Thoughts on what? It's two different topics. I mean, the new allegation was that, you know, they were receiving money from some secret donors, but it was the Candace Owens thing. So what are you talking about?

Which one is the thought? What I'm talking about, Patrice Cullors misusing the funds, purchasing million-dollar houses and things like that. Well, that hasn't been proven yet, right? I mean, it's still got to be proven, proven. I do wish that she would just show the documentation. I feel like she could shut everybody up if she just shows the documentation, but for whatever reason, she's not.

So I don't know. Now, I got to research it more. But I thought I was under the impression that they bought a home that was going to be like some headquarters for Black Lives Matter things to take place. I thought it was a couple. I don't know. I got to look more into it. All right. And also, I want to talk about Kendrick Lamar.

I mean, he's definitely in the league of his own. I mean, he's the new culture. That's what I call him. And I'm a big fan of him, and I love his lyrics. I wonder why they took the video down. I wanted to go look.

They took the video down. I just seen it. I watched it this morning. For real? Maybe about 20 minutes ago. Thank you, brother, for calling. It's down now. But I would say this.

Y'all better stop popping up in people's houses. That's what people need to stop doing. You better stop popping up in people's houses and ringing people's doorbells. Yeah, that is very true. That's what people need to stop doing. You better stop popping up in people's houses, ringing people's doorbells. Yeah, that is very true. That's what we

gotta stop doing. Why the hell they took Kendrick's video though? I just seen it. What are you talking about? Well, it's not there now. Alright. Hello, who's this? This is Nikki calling from Florida. Hey, Nikki. This is Nikki from Florida. How are y'all? Charlamagne Tha God, DJ Envy, and Miss Angela Yee.

Good morning. It's morning. I hope everybody is feeling good. I feel like I'm dragging but I'm here. I'm here. How was your weekend? It was long. I worked. And we got short staff and issues. I work medical so I know all of us are feeling that. With that being said

happy nurses week to all the nurses out there. Oh, happy nurses week. Yes, y'all don't get enough credit i don't know if y'all realize but a lot of times your nurses know you better than your doctors do so you know a shout out to all the nurses out there but i really wanted to comment on this kindred crack first of all love that marvin gay sample. Yes, indeed. The Marvin Gaye sample, crazy. Love that Marvin Gaye sample. Very soulful. I'm like,

I'm interested in that. Very, very, very, very soulful. Yes, I love that. And then, I have to give it to my boy Jack Carlow. I used to kind of

peek in and out on him, but I listened to the whole album this weekend because a lot of my work in it is traveling from place to place. And that whole album was fire.

So yes, come home, the kids miss you definitely yeah bad bunny uh bad bunny messed it up messed it up for jack harlow jack harlow probably would have had a number one if bad money ain't dropped that sneaky ass album on friday listen i regardless that jack harlow i told my daughter my daughter is like what do you know about jack harlow i said first of all what do you know about Jack Harlow? I said, first of all, what do you know about birdies? Let's get that. That's what that is. Jack Harlow looked like he was living it up at the Kentucky Derby this weekend. Oh, yeah, I bet. I didn't realize how big the Kentucky Derby was until I met a Kentuckian. And she was like, yeah, no, girl.

It's a whole movement. I'm like, well, all right, then. But I just wanted to chime in. Y' then okay i'm loving this kindred track so excited uh mb congratulations on the book with this year thank you so much that when i get some time it's probably gonna be best to do an audio since i'm constantly on the road and you got time to just sit but otherwise than that y'all just have a good monday everybody listen have a good monday i know it's rough. Everybody dealing with what they dealing with, but you're here.

That's right. That's right. All right. Thank you, buddy. Have a good one. Have a blessed one. Thank y'all. All right.

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Good morning. The Breakfast Club. This is The Rumor Report with Angela Yee. On The Breakfast Club. So listen up. Well, a new Kendrick song dropped yesterday, The Heart Part 5, where he deep fakes OJ Simpson, Kanye West, Jesse Smollett, Will Smith, Kobe Bryant, and Nipsey Hussle. He morphs into a number of different famous people throughout the video using the deep fake video technology. And this is a song.

This existence of the song was first teased on April 19th when Kendrick's website was updated with the page entitled The Heart. Then on May 7th, the song was accidentally teased by Spotify with an updated description. And then it was removed shortly thereafter. And then the song and visuals dropped on May 8th. So let's talk about the song a little bit. Here is Kendrick changing and morphing into Kanye West in the video. And you can see he's talking about

Friends Bipolar, Grab You By Your Pocket. I said I'd do this for my culture To let y'all know what a niddle look like And a bulletproof rover in my mama's sofa Was a doodoo popper, Hair tricker, walk up closer. Ain't no photoshopping. Friends bipolar. Grab your buyer pockets.

No option if you froze up. I always play the offense. It's like I'm going to work and selling work. Late for work. Working late, praying for work. But he on paperwork. That's the culture. Point the finger, promote you.

Remote location, witness protection. They gon' hold you. The streets got me fucked up. Y'all can miss me. I want a represent for us. Now you hear that sample from marvin gaye that's how i want you all right now deep voodoo um the video credits deep voodoo for doing the deep fake work which is the studio run by south park creators trey parker and matt stone and so there's a special thanks to them in the video as well remember he's doing something's doing a new live action comedy with them as well that's been announced.

And he also directed this alongside Day Free. Now, the part that everyone was talking about where he morphs into Nipsey Hussle. And here's some more of that gun Shit, I feel resentful, I didn't see my full potential Shit, I feel regret about the good that I was into Everything is everything, this ain't coincidental I woke up that morning with more heart to give you As I bleed through the speakers, feel my presence To my brother, to my kids, I'm in heaven To my mother, to my sis, I'm in heaven To my father, to my wife, I am serious, this is heaven

To my friends, make sure you count them blessings To my fans, make sure you make them investments. And to the killer that spared up my demise, I forgive you, just know your soul's in question. I seen the pain in your pupil when that trigger had squeezed. And though you did me gruesome, I was surely relieved. I completed my mission, wasn't ready to leave.

But fulfilled my days, my creator was pleased. He spitting on that boy. I love it, man. It's gracious. Speaking from the perspective of Nipsey from the afterlife, what if Nipsey's spirit really used Kendrick to convey that message? That really made you feel something right there. Absolutely. I love the part where he morphs into Will

Smith, too, and he says, in the land where hurt people hurt people, F calling it culture. I love that because I said from the beginning when I saw Will do what he did to Chris, all I saw was Will bleeding on someone who didn't cut him. He was a hurt person who hurt somebody. So I love that Kendrick did that as well.

And I just love the era we're in where artists can release the content they want, how they want, and everybody else has to adjust to their art. Yeah, I love that. Well, the video got taken down, so we're not sure why. Maybe he did it himself.

We don't know. I mean, it's on his page, so we don't know what's going on with that. I was going to ask you, if you use somebody likeness like that, do you got to clear it? I have no idea. Because it's damn near their face, you know what I mean? Five plus

million people already saw it just on his page, so it's no telling how many people saw it around the world. Everybody's reposting it. He got what he needed out of it, and usually the hearts aren't on the album anyway. All right, well, this final album on Top Dog Entertainment is going to be coming out on Friday, May 13th. That's this Friday. Do not wait.

Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers. I am ready. Kendrick does it again. Yeah, the Big Steppers got to be. I'm sure the Mr. Morale is the Kendrick solo album. The Big Steppers got to be a compilation of some sorts, right? But we're really excited for that, man. Kendrick, that's probably going to Step has got to be a compilation of some sort, right? But we're really excited for that, man.

Kendrick, that's probably going to be the biggest album of the year. Like, for hip-hop, don't you think? I think so. It comes out because the way this has gotten teased, it's been a while since he put out an album. Damn was in 2017. Well, I think Future's the biggest release

so far this year, period. Yeah, but I feel like that's going to... And then now Bad Bunny is about to be the biggest release so far this year. But for hip-hop, I feel like Kendrick could take that. I think so.

Oh, no, no. I mean, Future's for hip-hop too, but I'm saying Kendrick's gonna be the biggest release, period. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just saying the last two releases

that came out, the last two releases that came out, Future and Bad Bunny, have been the biggest releases of the year. So I'm sure Kendrick will trump both of those.

All right, well, that is your rumor report. More Kendrick. Kendrick took over Front Page news and rumor report this morning. Mm-hmm. Now, we got front page news coming up, though, right? The real front page news. We didn't do it last hour.

What are we talking about? Well, I said we were going to talk about Chris Paul. He had some issues. And, you know, basically, when the players have, quote-unquote, act up, they get fined. But what happens when the fans in the stands act up? We'll tell you why Chris Paul is mad. All right, we're going to kick it with Ja Rule after that. So don't move.

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Some restrictions apply. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get into some front page news. Sports over the weekend. The Bucs beat the Celtics 103-101. They lead the series 2-1.

We got a series. Warriors beat the Grizzlies 142-112. We don't have a series because Jabba Ram might not play game four. And yesterday, the Mavericks beat the Suns 111-101. We got a series. That series is tied, too. All right. Now, what else are we talking about, Yee?

Sixers and Heat tied as well. Did we say that? Oh, yeah, that's right. And the Sixers beat the Heat 116-1 a week. That's tied now, too. Tied the series, yeah we say that? Oh, yeah, that's right. And the Sixers beat the Heat 116-1 a week. That's tied now, too. Tied the series, yeah. We got a series. All right, now Chris Paul is upset that his mother had hands put on her by Mavericks fans,

and his wife was also pushed. He actually witnessed the incident, and he said his family felt very unsafe over what happened. He tweeted out, Want to find players for saying stuff to the fans, but the fans could put their hands on our families. F that. And, yeah, I think that... Can you imagine how mad you would be? No, I wouldn't be.

I couldn't imagine that. I mean, I'm surprised he didn't jump in the stands and really throw some people around. He tried. Like Metta World Peace. He tried. You put your hands on my mother? No, he tried.

And my wife? He tried. In front of my kids? He tried. Yeah, they said his kids witnessed it. He tried. And if I'm on his team, and we all team members,

we all jumping in there. Whatever, we take the suspension. You don't put no hands on somebody's mother. How old is his mother? 80 years old? He tried. I don't know if she's 80, but he tried. 70 years old?

And they grabbed him and he told the two of them. He said, I'll see you later. He said, I'll see you later. We should have played that audio, but yeah. Now, the Dallas Mavericks said they are aware of an incident between a fan and the family of Chris Paul. And they reported that his family had been harassed by fans. Some in the crowd made physical contact with them. The

Mavericks said in a statement it was unacceptable behavior and will not be tolerated. The Mavericks, along with American Airlines Center, swiftly removed the fan from today's game. He should have been arrested. He put hands on his wife. I think so, too. They'd definitely get arrested for that. Hey, you put your hands on my mother on

Mother's Day at a game. All bets are off. Danny was a little young kid, too. I seen him look like a little young teen or a little young kid. What makes you think that's acceptable behavior? Harassing someone's family? The era that we live in where everybody's so desensitized to everything. And, you know, people just don't have any empathy or sympathy for nobody.

All right. Now, a man in Indiana who was charged with the murder and the death of his wife. His wife had cancer and recently filed for a divorce, has now won a local primary election, a Republican primary election while he is behind bars.

His name is Andrew Wilhoite, 40, of Lebanon. He's charged with felony murder, accused of killing his wife, Elizabeth Nikki Wilhoite, 41, in March. He allegedly hit her in the head with a blunt object and dumped her body at a nearby creek in March. An autopsy determined the manner of death to be homicide.

He's being held without bond. But he did, however, advance in the Republican primary election for one of three open seats on the Clinton Township Board. I'm intrigued to hear what he was campaigning on. What was his policy? I don't understand that, but despite the charges against him, he is legally allowed to run. A person is disqualified from being a candidate for

elected office if he's convicted at a jury or bench trial or in a guilty plea hearing. Either he's really good or the person he was running against is really trash. Can you believe that? No. I gotta hear more. This is crazy. I gotta hear more. I need to hear more. This is crazy. I got to hear more. I need to hear more.

I need to hear exactly what he was saying to people to make them buy into this. Now, his wife was reported missing on March 25th after she failed to report to work. She had filed for divorce on March 17th, just one week prior to her death, according to court records. Now, a friend of hers said that she had just finished her last chemotherapy treatment for breast cancer before she was killed. And they said, according to court documents at first, he had lied to detectives about what happened to his wife. He later told investigators that he and his wife were fighting outside of the house when he hit her in the head with a flower pot, then drove her body to the creek. That's horrible. But also, this is America. It's so crazy.

This is America. It's the country that we're in. All right. Now, Tennessee will soon strictly regulate the dispensing of abortion pills, including imposing harsh penalties on doctors who violate them. That measure was signed on Thursday, and it will go into effect on January 1st. Once enacted, a medical clinician will be required to physically present when abortion pills are administered to a patient, even though federal regulations now allow mail delivery nationwide. This issue is bigger than Roe v. Wade because right now there's 19 states that have placed strict restrictions on accessing medication abortion.

Now, under this Tennessee version, delivery of abortion pills by mail would be outlawed, and anybody who wanted to use abortion pills would be required to visit a doctor in advance and then return to pick up the pills. So they're saying these drugs can only be dispensed by qualified physicians, which would include barring pharmacists from doing so. But some people are saying, according to law experts, it's an unsettled question whether states can restrict access to abortion pills because that is a federal issue more. So I know this is something that they've been working on in anticipation, in anticipation of Roe versus Wade being overturned.

The use of abortion pills has been rising in the U.S. for over 20 years now. Once they approve that, that's the. So rather than surgery, people will use those pills. So we'll see what happens. But that is something that people were saying is a loophole with all of these restrictions on abortions. All right. Well, that is your front page news. All right. Now, when we come back,

Ja Rule will be joining us. He stopped through Friday to have a conversation. Of course, he did a Mother's Day show yesterday at the Garden. It was him, Fat Joe, Little Mo, Ashanti, and Remy Mars. But he's been doing these vibes concerts. He did Raekwon and Ghostface.

Mm-hmm. So they look pretty dope. All right. So we'll talk to him when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. Rude, Ja Rule's here. Yo, what's good, my family?

What's happening? You feel like people appreciate you more now? I feel like there's a Ja Love Fest. I see you performing everywhere. I see you doing every show. I see so many people giving you the love. I mean, you know, it's crazy because I don't, you know, the love was there. I think people are noticing more now that, you know, it's crazy because I don't, you know, the love was there.

I think people are noticing more now that, you know, oh, I'm still out there doing this thing. You know, it's crazy, man. The business is a, you know how the business is. It's a crazy business. It's time for the love again. You know how big it's at. It's best.

But it's just a crazy industry we're in, and you just got to keep your feet moving like a running back. What about the documentary that you guys have coming out? That's going to probably reignite a lot more, too. You know, the doc's the doc. Mm-hmm. You know, um... How involved are you in the doc?

There, every day? No. I'm... I got a credit. Yeah. But, you know, when things like that happen, it does get people like more music streaming and then it does ignite,

like maybe the younger generation didn't know, that didn't live through that era of time. I hope it does that. You know, Murder, Inc., we had a very, very big impact in hip hop. Whether people like to admit it or not, this is what it is. That's a fact.

You know, in any hip-hop label, you're going to have beefs within the family. You're going to have your ups and downs with projects and things of that nature. Even with careers.

I've seen, you know, Dr. Dre may be the best at doing it Had big fallout with with NWA and everybody told So, you know, it's like I said, it's all about keep working. As long as you are creative and you do what you do well as far as creativity, you know, there's room always to excite and bring new adventures to the space. I think your music aged very well. That's another reason it's probably like a resurgence.

Like you can listen to all of those records right now. Always on time putting on me all those crazy. You say that Charlotte cuz oh Some of I'm not gonna say some of it, but I make records conscious consciously like that mm-hmm Like I don't like to date my records I don't like to put you know too many cars references and references of you know things that's happening at that time Yeah, you know when you talk about relationships and stuff like that. It that time. When you talk about relationships and stuff like that, it's timeless. People are always going to be in love and always want to get you a new hot chick

or whatever the case may be. That kind of stuff never really dies out. It just kind of evolves. You got wedding records. Yeah. Seriously. A lot of people, trust me, I do weddings too.

I do plenty of weddings, man. People want me to come and do Put It On Me. You know, we f***ed off this song, we made kids off this song. I get that. You know,

I don't know how many hip hop artists actually get that. That's like an R&B artist thing. You know what I'm saying? But you know, that's another thing. Being that I made the type of records that I made, I get to sneak in on all kind of different.

Bags. Yeah. I be on like the R&B gigs. I'm on the legends of the streets. So I'm everywhere. You know what I'm saying? I can do both sides of that. You know what I'm saying?

Me and Eric Abad do on the road. Like, you know, that's the beauty of what I created, that I'm able to do that in such a vast, you know. You ever look back at things, and maybe you do, when I look at Murder, Inc., right, and you were the pinnacle artist for Murder, Inc., right? Do you ever wish that maybe after you sold those millions of records, you say, okay, I want part of it, I want a percentage of Murder, Inc.,

or did you have this? I thought you did. That's what I'm asking. Yeah, you know, I got my little, you know, things here and there. But, you know, I don't like to speak on Murder, Inc. Not the reason I think, because at one time, I felt like you were the Murder, Inc. artist.

I'm the catalyst. That got so many artists on Murder, Inc. I held the flag. The reason why Shanti signed there, the reason why everybody signed there. And me and Gotti got a great situation and a great deal.

No, because I always look at him like Jay in Rockefeller. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was an owner and he was a known owner. I just always thought, like, damn, Josh should have been

a known owner. Maybe he was. Maybe I don't know. That's what I'm asking. Yeah, I was more of an in-the-back owner of things. And that's fine, too. You know what I'm saying?

You say you don't like to speak on Murder, Inc.? No, that type of thing. Oh, the business. Yeah. Got you, got you, got you say you don't like the speaker on Murder, Inc.? no that type of oh the business yeah got you got you got you I think another reason your name keeps coming up

in conversation is because of the culture of the music so you have all of these rappers that are doing the melodies and they're singing the same things that you made popular

then got criticized for so it's like I've been here debating with the youngins because they be like oh you gotta give this person credit you gotta give this person credit

I'm like no Ja Rule yeah Ja started all of that I appreciate appreciate that too Shawl. Because people forget, whoever did it last did it better than the first in the first place. And that's just how it is. And the dominance. If you've been working at Black Radio for a long time you understand what Murda did. You couldn't escape Ja. You couldn't escape Rashad, you couldn't escape Irv, the production, you couldn't escape it. Yeah, we definitely had a hold on, we had a dominant moment. You know, everybody has their moment

in hip-hop. You know, somebody would've, you know, kicked the ball down the road a little longer than others, you know what I'm saying? And that's cool. You know, I think, I think, you know,

hip-hop has grown so much now that we're getting into a space where you're going to have contemporary hip-hop. And there's another stage, and I ain't going to speak on it, but they're playing just like old-school hip-hop. Oh, yeah, absolutely. There's a time now that's coming for those moments where rock made that transformation.

I don't like that, though. Let me tell you why. But it has to be that. It has to be that. You look at the white stations, and they could play an older, classic record. No, we still do that. It's not the whole programming of the station.

We should be able to play this with the old, and we do the throwback mix. I'll drive from time to time and hear a throwback record on the thing. But you know, you can't. Listen, we all know the business. You got a slot of records that you're able to play. You got to play the new guys.

You can't throw all the old guys in there and just get. Like, it doesn't work that way. So it has to be something dedicated to that. Right. That's right. You know what I'm saying? Because the music has grown up. Like, I'm 46.

I don't want to listen to the same thing Little Rule listened to. Even though it's all hip hop It's just different hip hop for me Like I like Nods dropping I'm all right I'm rubbing my hands together Like you guys

Hip hop for me Most people Just listen to the music And as you grow up You grow with But how about having kids right How does that affect The music you listen to

Because sometimes You hear your kids Listening to something. Yeah. Like Lil Rules. He's a rapper, too. Yeah. So he's not a rapper.

Okay. So he's a rapper. So let me tell you. You're like, Dad, I'm a rapper. No. So I don't know what to categorize him as. This is some real shit. Because he does a style of music called hyper pop.

And apparently it's a big, underswelling community of this music that i know nothing about so i'm like son i can't help you i don't know who does this music i don't know who buys this but he's rapping he's a mixture between rap and rock and like edm so he's making music he's making music and it's in this way and it's, you know, he's got a deal on the table from Sony and stuff like that. So yeah, and it's all him. He's doing this. He moved to LA.

He's been out there on his own. Oh, wow. Yeah, he came in my room one night. Were you excited that he's doing this? I was. I was very excited for him because I like to see the kids. You said you were. That mean your wife wasn't?

It wasn't that she wasn't excited. I don't think she was ready. There's a difference. She didn't want another one. She was like, oh, here we go again. No, I don't think she was ready for him to spread his wings. Move to L.A. Yeah, because I was immediately like, if that's what you want to do, son, go ahead.

You know, you're a grown man now. Go ahead and do that. You know what I'm saying? She was more like, he'll be back. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, once we leave, baby was more like, he'll be back. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, once we leave, baby, we ain't trying to come back.

If we can stay and be gone, we're not coming back. Like, we're men, you know what I mean? We want to show that we can be men on our own and he's doing that

and I'm proud of him for that. Did you give him any advice, like as far as legal advice, lawyers, things about the house? That stuff, you know, yes, of course.

When he brings the contracts, I'll send them to my lawyer. You know, we'll make sure the business is done right. But as far as stuff, you know, yes, of course. When he brings the contracts, I'll send them to my lawyer. You know, we'll make sure the business is done right. But as far as me, you know, getting my hands dirty

and trying to bring them around and say, no, he needs to do that. He needs to be respected in the industry on his own merit. And then, you know,

then, you know, it can work properly. Does Papa manage him? No. All right, we got more with Ja Rule. When we come back, let's get into a Ja Rule mini mix. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Ja Rule. Charlamagne? It was crazy. The first time I ever heard the term helicopter parent was from my 13-year-old daughter, and I didn't know what it was. So she was like, you a helicopter parent?

I said, I'm a UFO. Oh, no, this is new. They got a new term. He was confused. This bulldozer parents now. Really? The bulldozer parents, they just move all the pieces off the board so their kids can go like this. Oh, I'm with that, too.

Oh, I like that. I'm not with that. I like that. I'm not with that. You don't want to move the obstacles if you can? I want to give them a great head start. And I think that's what I'm thinking. You've done that.

You've done that. That's not moving the obstacles. Being a bulldozer is like what homegirl and them a great head start. And I think that's what we've done. You've done that. I'm moving obstacles. Moving a bulldozer is like what homegirls did buying the college. That's bulldozer. No matter what, this is this is going to come too fast and too easy. And you don't really appreciate it or you're not ready for it. So you got to work. It happened to me.

I understand it very much. Like I got rich very early in life. I was like 22, 23, and I made my first million dollars. So it was like, I made so many mistakes. Buying everybody, running around cars. It was just going, just doing it. And you learn from that. You know what I'm saying? You just think the money never stops when you're young

and you're getting it like that. I'm making $14, $15 million a year at a clip. So you're thinking like, this could never stop. All I got to do, go in the studio, make some new hits, make some new records. And then things happen that you could never, ever have thought. And then it's like, okay, now I get it. You know, hip-hop, I learned a lot from going through all of the beef.

I learned so much. Because you learn, and I learned in that span of time, that hip hop is subjective. Music is subjective. People don't have to like Ja Rule. People don't have to like whoever, whatever artist. It's your preference. It's a privilege to have fans and have people love you and adore you. So young artists out there just

know that just know that this ain't promised you you hot right now tomorrow they turn your lights out and anybody hates you for whatever reason cuz you said this on stage or you you know it happens you know so did you see it happening or it wasn't one of those things that just happened right away it just happened it was like I'm gonna travel the world woke up world on top of job you know said like'm saying like damn like what y'all just mad at me for what

because I make good music and whatever you know we ain't gotta go down that road but I'm just saying you know that's what I learned

that was the lesson that came out of that like okay now you gotta get into other businesses other things where they don't necessarily

have to like you as long as you're providing a service and product that they, the people, the consumer use and it's valuable to them, it's different. You understand? Mark Zuckerberg can do

some sucker s*** tomorrow. We ain't stop using Instagram. You know what I'm saying? We gonna get on there and talk about him. And he's gonna resign and keep his shares and go off and continue the business. You know what I'm saying? It don't work like that in music. I want to ask you about the bulldozer parent thing.

When it comes to the kids, right, do you think pain is love? Absolutely. That's what pain is love is all about. You know, people think it's the actual term of what it sounds like, pain is love. You know, that's too simple. You know what I'm saying? Pain is love is about sacrifice. It's the pain and the struggle and the heartache that we all go through as parents

so that our little ones can receive the love. That's what pain is love is about. And keep them from going through that, though. Keep them from going through it. Hopefully. Yeah, yeah. You're going to experience pain in your life, regardless. That's what life is about.

It's ups and downs. You know what I want to ask you now that you have Icon, right? I want to ask you what are some things that you learned from Fire, then moving on to starting this company? Yeah, that was a big learning lesson too. You know, I learned to be very hands-on with everything that I'm doing. You know, with Icon

I'm very, very hands-on. Everything. Like even with the Vibes concerts. Like I'm in the you know, I'm in the rehearsals and this with me and Ray. Big shout out to my brothers Ray and Ghost, man. Because- Salute to Ray and Ghost.

Yeah, salute to them, man. I love those brothers. They came in and they did this concert. They love to get fly anyways. That's what people don't know about Ray and Ghost. You know, they think of Wu-Tang and they thinking, you know, the Army Fatigue and- Oh, they don't know Ray and Ghost? Yeah, they don't know about rain goes you know they think of wu-tang and they thinking you know you know the army fatigues and oh they don't know where it goes yeah they don't know if you think yeah because even things that don't work out i feel like there's a lot of valuable lessons to be yeah so it was a very valuable lesson that i learned in there you know

and and that was to if you have a vision and you have a dream, you got to see it. You can't pass it off. It's just not, you know, it's not a relay race. You know, if you got the baton and you running with it, keep f***ing running with it. Absolutely. I see you got your degree from the Harvard Business School. Yeah. Talk about that, your business degree.

What made you want to? It's a business certificate. You know what I'm saying? Let's just keep it with us. At least you honest. You're the first person that's been honest about this shit, John. Thank you, John. You didn't have on a cap and gown or nothing?

Nah, ain't no cap and gown. Where is my horsey when he graduates, Mark? I'm glad you was honest, John. Ain't no cap and gown. But here's what I will say about it. Here's what I will say about it. It is a Harvard thing that they actually put out there.

And it's real professors that actually come on the screen. Real business minds. You do it virtually. I did the Entrepreneur's Essentials. It was dope. It was very dope.

I know a lot of the stuff already. And it helped you. It was dope. It was dope. It was very dope. You know, I know a lot of the stuff already, but it was good to, you know, refresh up on some things and also learn a lot of other things. Right. Just to know about

people's struggles and what they went through to build their startups. You know, people don't understand. It's hard to do a startup company, you know, raise equity.

You understand? Scale the company and then exit or go public. That's not easy to do. It sounds like bop, bop, bop, step, stairs. I know the steps. It's not easy to do, especially when you do this. It's not easy to do. You know, so especially, you know, with the things that I've had in my past, too. It's not easy to do. You know, so, especially, you know,

with the things that I've had in my past, too. That wasn't easy to do. You know, so, for me to be a part of these amazing investment groups that I'm in right now, and for them to have my back the way they do, big shout out to my team, man, my Warwick guys, my JPEG Morgan guys. I love all you guys. You guys have welcomed me with open arms,

and they showing me, they mentoring me in a way that I never ever could have learned, business and tech and entrepreneurship and investment. So I appreciate all you guys. Is the goal to sell Icon at some point? I mean, yeah.

I mean, that's always an exit strategy. I could go public with it or sell it. You know, I probably would rather go public with it first or not. You know, stay private and just, you know, make it the biggest company that I

can possible. You know, it's not easy though. But everybody listening right now, go out and support a brother, man. Icon with two N's. Live. It's in the Apple App. But everybody listening right now, go out. Support a brother, man. Icon with two Ns. Live. It's in the Apple App Store. Go check it out.

If Mount Rushmore of rap is for you, who would you put on there? Dylon, Dylon, Dylon. Nah, you know, it's tough. Just four. Because it's errors, you know what I mean? Four rule your thing. For me, you got to go's errors. You know what I mean? For me, you got to go through errors. You know what I mean? But if I just had to do four, you would have to put Jay on there.

12. I would put Pac on there. Pac. Big got to go on there. Big. One more. It's a tough one. You ain't named nobody from Queens yet.

You know what? I would. It would have to be between, for me, it would be like a toss between three rappers. And I gotta pick one, I know, but I would go with older school guys, like either Big Daddy

Kane, Rakim, or KRS because of what they did for the culture, what they meant to the culture and what Rakim was to a Nas, you know what I'm saying? And what KRS was to a whole generation of rappers. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

And to me, too. Kane was the first s*** I seen. I was like, this s*** is fly. This s*** is all... He had a different thing with him, too. So, you know, it's hard. That's hard. But if I had to pick one, I don't know.

You left it open. I feel like he would've said Rakim just because he mentioned it earlier. We never put the ladies in there. I was thinking the same. I was just thinking that in my head. And yo, come on man,

MC Lyte, Queen Latifah, for me it's Latifah. Salt-N-Pepa, like they pioneered. They are the reason that other women picked up a microphone period

how can you leave them off correct you know what I'm saying you gotta take one of them and put them on there I know right I'm gonna have to make

a new Rushmore and just business wise you know everything that rappers are doing now Latifah and Flavor Unit come on man

I mean yo Lil, Lil' Kim. Let's talk about what Lil' Kim did. When you look at the Cardis and the Nickys and the men. Yeah, yeah. Every female. And then go listen to the hardcore album. I understand why she's so revered like that. That album is crazy.

Yeah, it is. And she's spitting on that album. It's not like, you know what I'm saying? It's not like she's going on that album. So I get it when these females are like, yo, Kim was it for me. I get it. I get it now.

So now we know who the next Vibe show is. I know. I'm trying. I'm trying. Holla at me, Kimmy. We need to get that together. Well, it's Ja Rule. We appreciate you for joining us, brother.

Yeah, for sure. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ, MV, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Good morning. What's happening? Good morning. Back to the work week. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Drake. Man, you are a... Drake!

The hell is that? What's going on? Rumor Report. Rumor Report. Drake? Man, you are a... Drake? The hell was that? What's going on? Rumor Report. Rumor Report. This is the Rumor Report. Talk to him. With Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club.

All right. Well, Drake was at the Kentucky Derby with Jack Harlow. It looks like they were having a great time. I saw Drewski was there as well. And they were there to reportedly film a music video for Jack Harlow's new Churchill Downs track. Obviously, Drake is on that song, too. You know, he just put out Come Home, the kids miss you album. And Drake actually bombed his interview. He came in while Jack Harlow was doing an interview.

Didn't want the interview to end. What's it like for you to get to see the hometown kid here? Everybody love him so much. You know, I'm so proud of this guy and we're drunk. He's sober, I'm drunk. I'm the one and only Happy Jack. Yeah, obviously. I like it.

If it wasn't a Happy Aubrey, we'd run that too. I can't give the wrap it up signal. What are you going to cut to? Right? What are you going to cut to? Right What are you gonna cut to? It's Jake and Jack Harlow y'all A shot of like poorly manicured grass You know what I'm gonna tell him?

I'm gonna tell him Just hold on We're going home Alright so he was trying to keep that interview going Looks like they had a good time though At the Kentucky Derby I seen drama there too I saw Taylor Rooks was there

Saw that's her Kaiser was there So yeah I mean Clearly the Kentucky Derby is a big deal. Y'all ever been there? Clearly it is because drama showed up with no hat on. Whenever you see DJ drama and DJ clue somewhere with no hat on, it's a special occasion.

I thought that was a thing at the Kentucky Derby. Hats, like fancy hats and stuff. Well, usually the women wear the fancy hats. Guys can wear fancy hats too, though. Right? You're right. But usually the Kentucky Derby is usually the women. All right.

Now, Wendy Williams versus Sherri Shepherd how did we get here well Wendy Williams was talking to Fat Joe and she was talking about coming back to her show do you miss not coming to the show yes I do I wish I was there I wish I was there right now to talk about it but I'm glad that I'm able to talk about when I come back so is there plans for a new show or are you coming back to the Wendy Williams show? Coming back to the Wendy Williams show. Absolutely. Because I know they were talking about Sherri Shepherd taking over the show. I won't be watching her because I know what she's going to be doing and that's really not my thing.

Anyway, I love being on my own show. And I love that people love to watch it. You know, all the time. I wonder if Wendy's really coming back, though. Because, I mean, we haven't heard Deadball Mercury or anybody say that. We've heard her saying it, so we don't know. Right. But, you know, Sherri Shepherd's been very respectful to Wendy.

She has. And saying nice things about Wendy Williams. And to be clear, it's not supposed to be a takeover of the Wendy Williams show. It's her own show that's different. Her own new show, Yeah. Yeah. So here's what Sherri Shepherd had to say. She's not well. So it's just a lot going on in Wendy's life. There was a time at the beginning of my career at The View, I used to perform at Caroline's and Wendy had a comedy night at Caroline's and we were very very friendly sometimes stuff don't pan out as far as friendships so Wendy was very very honest and transparent on her show

she would say she really wasn't trying to be friends with people because it would make her hard for her to talk about them so maybe that was one of the reasons why we never had a friendship because I'm I have very strong friendships and I'm definitely a woman who likes to uplift other women so all right you know don't know stick to our old you said what she took the high road yeah high road all right now Stevie J has apologized to faith publicly on social media he said faith Renee Jordan I've hurt you disrespected you and humiliated you in front of the world. From this day forward, I promise to listen to your feelings and be more delicate with

your heart. I also promise to build you up even more and to communicate dearly with you, respect you, and love on you until you're as happy as you were when we got married. I've learned my lesson and I never want to live without you because God knows I'm a better man with you. And I'm asking you to find it in your heart to forgive me and allow me to rebuild our trust. Happy Mother's Day. I love you. Well, perhaps the two of them will work it out.

I don't know, guys. They've been through a lot very publicly. Charlamagne, did you give him that advice to do that publicly? No, I didn't. I didn't give you the advice to do that publicly. Yes, you did! You did. We were all here. I did not know what he was actually going to.

You were like, you should call her now and apologize on the air. I don't know if that's how it went. I got to go back and listen. But I definitely didn't know what interview was going to at the time. But we have moved on from that, so let's not go back to that space. You brought it up. You did bring it up. I said Stevie J.

I didn't say me. You know what you are alluding to. Yeah, you said, did you give him that advice? Okay. That's the advice he gave you. We knew what you are alluding to. Yeah, you said to give him that advice. Okay. That's the advice he gave you. We know what you are alluding to. This is triggering. All right.

Now, T.I. says that Kevin Samuels is being bullied and that people are ganging up on a dead man. Here's what he had to say. Just see. Let me see what we got. Actually. Because I don't like it. You're bullying a dead man, basically.

You're ganging up on a dead man. A travesty of justice i can't i can't stand it i can't stand it i'm gonna let y'all bully this dead man we're gonna let this man rest in peace whatever he did he did it and he gone he got away with it that's between him and god him and the lord gonna have to deal with it you ain't got no heaven or no hell to put him in i mean i do think it's quite strange to wish death on a person just because you didn't agree with uh their opinion and the fact that they're saying he died of a heart attack it's like a heart disease is the number one killer of black people black men and black women so I

wouldn't necessarily call that karma either yeah but if I ain't like you when you was alive I ain't gonna like you when you dead there's no difference I'm not gonna change up because you die if I don't like you I don't like you so all this alive, I ain't gonna like you when you dead. There's no difference. I'm not gonna change up because you die. If I don't like you, I don't like you. All this showed me. I see that a lot of people didn't necessarily like you. Yeah. All this shows me is that, and I've always said this, when Michael K. Williams passed, I loved to see all the posts and tributes that people did to him.

Had nothing to do with his acting. It had everything to do with who he was as a person. Regular people's just interactions with him every day. Me, my interactions with him, all of us, everybody that ever came across him. That's how you want to be remembered because you were such an amazing person in life. And it just really reinforced that for me because some people just didn't feel bad because of their thoughts about him, their feelings about him. And so it just made me feel like I got to make sure in life that I do great positive

things because you think about how you want to be remembered after you pass. Yeah, I'm not saying you got to feel bad, but I'm not saying you got to spike the football and make jokes either. Especially because it's, like I said, it's heart disease, right? Heart disease is the number one killer of black people. When you run around screaming karma, just remember things like that can happen to you and people you love too. Yeah, absolutely.

But that's why you're supposed to be a good person i'm not gonna sit here and lie there's some people if they die if they die they die i don't care i don't wish anybody good people die of heart attack we don't wish anybody to die i would never ever be like i wish this person died that's all i'm saying sometimes people just don't feel bad when it happens well i mean to me if i have a problem with you and i never liked you when you were alive, if you die, you die. I don't care if it's heart attack, if it's car accident,

if it's car crash. I don't care if you fall and trip off a curb. If I don't like you because you're a bad person, you were ishing on me, if you die, you die. But I do feel bad

for people's family members. I hate that his mom had to find out on social media. That's wrong. And clearly there's people that love him, that are close to him, that know him in a different way

than the rest of the world does. And so that's people that love him, that are close to him, that know him in a different way than the rest of the world does. And so that's why I'm always like, condolences to the family members because it's not easy to lose someone. Yeah, I'm not wishing death on somebody just because I disagree with things that come out of their mouth. I'm not saying him.

I'm not saying him, but I understand the way that some people feel about certain things. All right. Well, that is your rumor reports. All right. Who you giving that down with the two? Four after the hour.

I need Virgin Atlantic Airlines to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a word with them, please. All right. We'll get into that next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.

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I was born a donkey. It's the donkey of after day. Yeah, it's dark here today for Monday. May 9th. Let me make sure it's May 9th. Yes, it's May 9th. Goes to Virgin Atlantic Airlines. Really nice planes, okay? Really nice planes on Virgin Atlantic Airlines. Dropping the clues, Bounce, with Virgin Atlantic Airlines.

Listen, I am a proud JetBlue Mosaic member, but Virgin Atlantic is very, very, very fresh, okay? I remember getting on one of those flights once, and it reminded me of soul plane not because it was a lot of black people on the flight because it wasn't but just how fresh the actual plane was okay i said to myself this is the closest we are going to get to an actual soul plane now it's great when a flight you know looks futuristic and clean and fresh but what i care about more than anything is who is flying the plane. Okay, dropping the clues bombs for all the pilots out there.

When I get on a flight, I speak to the pilots. Okay, I make sure to greet the pilots and send the pilots positive energy, love, and light because we don't need our pilots having a bad day. All right, do you know how crazy it is that we just get on planes or any form of transportation for that matter and not speak to the person who's at the helm of said form of transportation for that matter and not speak to the person who's at the helm of said form of transportation you know how we say be kind to everyone you meet because you don't know what folks are going through that's especially true for people you are allowing to

take you places okay you better be you better speak and be kind to that uber driver all right you better speak and be kind to that bus driver and you damn sure better speak and be kind to that pilot. All right? We are 50,000, 60,000 feet in the air. I am entrusting you

to get us to our destination safely. I need you to feel worthy. All right, Mr. and Mrs. Pilot? I need you to feel loved, valued, and appreciated,

Mr. and Mrs. Pilot. I am trusting you with my life, my family's life, and everybody else on this plane. You feel the same. OK, not only do I speak to the pilot and everyone who works on the flight, I pray for them. OK, when I sit down in my seat and before takeoff, I pray for the pilot, everybody. And I pray for everybody who works on the flight. OK. And everyone on the flight.

I pray we all get to our destination safely and soundly. And this is why today's donkey of the day hurts. OK, because when we get on these flights, you know, I'm dotting all these I's and crossing these T's and, you know, asking my God to get us where we need to be safely because I want the best possible outcome. But is the airline thinking about that in regards to us? Does the airline care if we get to where we need to be safely? Does the airline care about who's flying the planes? I'm sure they do. But a Virgin Atlantic flight heading to JFK, you know, in NYC coming from London had to turn back to London. And it was the airline's fault. It was Virgin Atlantic's fault. What reason does the airline have to turn back around? Was the plane low on gas? Did somebody forget to fill it up?

Was it a mechanical issue? Is a pilot sick? Well, let's go to Yahoo Finance to see what the hell happened. An interesting story here. A Virgin Atlantic flight had to turn around 40 minutes into the journey because the first officer hadn't completed his final assessment. And the captain who was flying with him didn't have the designated trainer status in order to fly with them. Now, this is information that would have been very helpful before they got on the plane. A virgin chalked this up to a rostering error, but if you were one of these passengers on

that London to New York flight who arrived nearly three hours late because of this, that's probably not much comfort. A rostering error? A rostering error? In my first book, Black Privilege, go get that if you haven't, but in my first book I have a chapter called Put the Weed in the Bag. And it's based off the classic scene in Belly when Tommy and Sincere are bagging up weed in the basement. And Wise and Lockheed, the two youngins, say, I'm tired of this cool stuff.

We ready to quit and get money with y'all. And DMX says, put the weed in the bag first and then get money. The way I interpret that is simple. You can't escape the process. OK, you can't skip steps. You just can't. Imagine somebody about to do major heart surgery on you and you find out they haven't finished whatever test or requirements they supposed to and aren't even qualified yet to be holding the scaffold and cutting you open. And these people on this flight, these pilots, they aren't even new. You heard the news report. officer I read joined the company in 2017 and is qualified in accordance with UK's flight

regulations, but needed to complete the airline's internal final assessment flight. And the flight's captain, who's highly experienced and has been with Virgin Atlantic for 17 years, did not have the designated trainer status. OK, so the first officer was replaced with a new pilot. I don't even really know what any of that means. OK, I just know they shouldn't have been flying that plane. All right. And if I was on that plane and they told me the pilot had to fly back because he didn't pass the final assessment test i would have had a panic attack all right i would have had a straight up anxiety attack i would have been running for the emergency door okay therefore everybody on this flight in my mind is entitled to compensation. All right. You don't know the

stress, emotional pain and suffering something like that could cause. Therefore, I need more than free flights and points for this type of stress. OK. S.K.R.E.S.S. Stress. All right. Look, you got to climb the steps, people. You can't skip them. All right. Today's society wants to skip the process. And I don't like that. OK, I need the professionals doing what professionals do. And I don't care how qualified they say you are. If you haven't taken the final test, well, then you are not all the way qualified. OK, this is one of those times I don't want no virgin. OK, I don't want to be on an airline called Virgin. Nope. I don't want to be the one to pop your cherry. OK, I want qualified professionals who have passed every test. All right. I want slut professionals who have passed every test.

All right? I want slut airlines, whore airlines, not virgins. Okay? When I'm in the air, I need experience. All right? Please give Virgin Atlantic Airlines the sweet sounds of the Hamilton's. Oh, now you are the donkey of the day. You are the donkey of the day. Yee-haw. Maybe I missed it, but how did they know mid-air that he didn't have his proper qualification?

I don't know. I didn't get all that. Was it just a conversation? Like, were you talking to the other pilot? Like, hey, where'd you go to school? I went so-and-so. I have no idea. But somebody cleared.

We just going to turn around in the middle? They said it was a roster error. So somebody might have double-checked the roster and was like, oh, wait a minute. We sent the wrong person out. We already in the air, though. How did the pilot not say, like, you know, I don't have the proper qualifications? Turn back around. Turn back around, buddy.

All right. All right. All right. Well, thank you for that donkey of the day. Now, when we come back, Mark Lamont Hill will be joining us. We're going to kick it with him when we come back. He got a new book. What's the name of it? It's called Seen and Unseen, Technology, Social Media, and the Fight for Racial Justice.

Mark Lamont Hill and Todd Brewster. All right. We're going to talk to him when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed?

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I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tribe owned country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a racket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets.

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That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs,

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or wherever you listen to podcasts. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. The good brother. Mark Lamar Hill. Welcome.

Thanks for having me. Good to be here. Good to see y'all in real life. Last time I was on Zoom. Zoom. Dope. How are you? I'm good, man.

Okay. Just grinding, man. You know, it's been a crazy year. Got real sick in the fall. Had blood clots. Had my heart attack. It was real. Yeah, it all came from a ruptured Ach real sick in the fall. Had blood clots. Had my heart attack. It was real. Yeah, it all came from

a ruptured Achilles playing ball. Wow. And, I mean, literally almost died. Yeah, man. Yeah. So it's been like

just the recovery. Trying to eat better. Trying to live better. You know, just be healthier. So I'm good, you know. Break that down from a basketball injury, blood clots,

and a heart attack? Yeah, so like it happens a lot where like you happens a lot where like you get a oh you old you get you rupture your achilles so i wasn't even doing nothing special i just took one dribble to the right i felt something pop in my leg thought i got hit i actually thought i got shot because i was playing a certain neighborhood i was yeah i was in the hood playing it was like it was like me and a couple like my young boy somebody

else we just playing and i was like if uh this is a real bad way to die at 42, 43 years old. But it wasn't. I was good. I turned around, saw nobody was there. Went to the hospital. They told me it was completely ruptured. About three weeks later, I started getting shortness of breath. I thought it was just because I was hopping around the house.

It wasn't that. And then I was typing. I was working on a book. And I went to the bathroom, and I couldn't breathe. The room was spinning. And I was working on a book and I went to the bathroom and I couldn't breathe. The room was spinning and I like passed out on the bathroom floor, woke myself up.

Like, I don't know how, honestly, crawled down the steps, got to the ambulance. They said if I got there just a little bit later, I probably would have died. So you had to call 911

for yourself? I had to call 911 for myself. Wow. Yeah, yeah. It was crazy, man. So, you know, I was very lucky. Had blood clots

covering my whole left lung, almost all of my right lung. And, yeah and that all came from an achilles all from achilles i had deep i had a dvt right so basically i had a clot in my leg that rose up to my to my lungs and i didn't notice it right away because you know i just didn't notice it and i didn't have some of the symptoms you normally have and yeah and it happens to a lot of people. Kevin Durant, he told me that, he said that after he ruptured his Achilles, that's the thing he was most terrified of. And so he was constantly, like,

looking at it, getting it checked. So what's the treatment for it? Nothing you can really do. I mean, they pulled the clots out. I was in the hospital for a few days. They pulled the clots out. And after that, I take blood thinners. I may have to take them for the rest of my life.

But that's okay. That's a small price to pay. Yeah, to still be here. To be here, yeah. I'm good. Well, happy you're here, my brother. Absolutely. You got the new book, Seen and Unseen.

And I love the topic you tackle in this book. You talk about visual media and how it's shifting the narrative on race and reignited the push towards justice. So do you think social media is, I guess, do you think social media is helping or hurting? That's a good question. I always say social media takes people who should be closer together and pulls them apart.

Like you might be with your family and everybody on their cell phone. Or you might be on the couch with your lady or your partner, whoever, and y'all both doing something different. That's right. You know, that pulls people apart. But then you have people who are far apart, who should be far apart. When you argue with that troll, or like my man the other day arguing with Drake. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That was a hard L. But you end up with people who you shouldn't even be engaging. That's right. It pulls you closer to them. And so that's the danger of it. But there's a way that it helps us organize. Man, we wouldn't be talking about George Floyd. We wouldn't have went down in Ferguson

if it wasn't for social media. And technology, like you said you said somebody filmed that and then everybody had a chance to actually see what happened rather than try to recount something that happened from witnesses that were there now you have the film now you have a whole society of people that are able to witness and visually there's no way you don't feel something from watching that. Yes, and the thing is, and this is what we tackle in the book, it's not new. We've always used technology that way. We just have better technology

now. So think about... Rodney King trial. Rodney King, right? That was a stroke of luck. I mean, the odds of getting somebody getting a behind beat by the police with a camcorder. You don't have to have a big camcorder. You needed the tape. You needed to make sure the tape was clean, put the tape, you know, a little paper in the joint to make sure you could record over it. You don't got to remember a big camcorder. You needed the tape. You needed to make sure the tape was clean, put the tape,

you know, a little paper in the joint to make sure, you know, you could record over it. You needed all those things to happen in the instant that somebody's getting beaten.

Now everybody can pull out the phone. But that moment changed the conversation because all of a sudden, America, especially white America, couldn't say they didn't know.

Right. But that wasn't the first time. Look at Martin Luther King. When we got beat on the Pettus Bridge fighting for, trying to get voting rights. And Dr. King said, y'all aren't going to beat us

in the dark anymore. Y'all aren't going to beat us in the woods of Alabama. Y'all aren't going to beat us in private. We're going to make all of America, we're going to sit on this bridge and show the viciousness of white supremacy. And so now the social media was the evening news. The technology was the news camera. You know, when Emmett Till

is killed, Jet Magazine. When Emmett Till's face is on Jet Magazine, that's the social media. Yeah, America's done that too. You know better than me, but the Vietnam War. When they started showing the images of the Vietnam War to get people riled up about, like, no, this is an unjust war.

Exactly, when people saw those bodies. And people whose bodies they thought were mournable. Because black bodies aren't mournable in this country. Unless it's something gruesome. But when they started seeing their next door neighbors, when they started seeing their kids, their students, their friends, when they started seeing them dying in this war, now they said, we got to stop this thing. So black people have always been tactical about how we use media and technology, especially. And now, because everybody has access to it, everybody has a phone.

Everybody. Yeah, it's much easier to do. In the first chapter, you talk about the spectacle of death. you start off with the why yeah what is the why you know it's a good question because if you would have asked me five years ago what the moment for this generation was i would have said it was mike brown um i couldn't imagine anything bigger than mike brown laying on on campfield for three and a half minutes. You asked me before that, I would have said it was it was Trayvon Martin because we were all organized for that. Right. But this is the moment. Absolutely. This is the moment. And the why of it is, well, partly because America had to sit there and look at it.

Right. With Mike Brown, we had testimony. We had stories. We had theories. You know, Trayvon Martin, we had George Zimmerman, who we knew was racist. Right. But but it was still different. Right. America had to sit there in a pandemic when we weren't leaving. We were all in our houses. We had our phones out and we had to sit there for nine minutes, more than nine minutes and watch George Floyd be executed. White people can't pretend anymore. White people like to pretend. They like to be innocent. They like to act like this thing ain't real. But when somebody is dying in front of you, and with the knee on the neck too, there's no tussle.

There's no battle. There's no what if he had a knife? What if he was running? What if he had a gun in his car? You can't say any of that. Because it's right in front of you. Broad daylight. Broad daylight. And he ain't do nothing. You know what I mean? At worst you could say he passed the 20. That ain't worth dying for.

That's not a capital offense. And then what people try to do is bring up his past and say, well, he was this, he was that. And the media, certain media outlets will run with things like that. And then you see that on social media, too. Yeah. This guy was no hero. That's one thing. And he's not.

We wrote that in the book. He's not a hero, but he is a martyr. Right. I don't have to be a hero to not die. And that's the thing that they try to tell you. Oh, he's no, he got weed in his system. Who done that weed in their system? You know what I mean? Like, the rules they make up for us.

You know what I'm saying? It's the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen in my life. They go to your suspension records. They talk about what you did in kindergarten. They talk about, I mean, with Mike Brown, he stole a cigarilla. He stole a blunt out the store. Darren Wilson didn't even know he stole a blunt out the store when he killed him. But even if he

did, you don't get the electric chair for that. You don't get a lethal injection for that. You don't get executed for that. But we sometimes, and this is black people too, we're so committed to making ourselves look a certain way in front of white people, the kind of respectability politics, that we only advocate for perfect victims. We only advocate

for the people who are about to go to college. We only advocate for straight people. We only advocate for cisgender we only advocate for the people who are about to go to college we only advocate for straight people we only advocate for cisgender people when was that something there's a national outrage for a trans woman who died non-black trans women were killed the summer that mike brown was killed we didn't hear none of their names right we don't have any gay male people who we look to and say you know what we're riding for him right it tends to be christian straight heterosexual males at. At least that's how it looks. And because we want to look a certain way and feel good about it. And middle class black people don't feel good about saying, well, he stole something from the store. So therefore, we're going to we're going to still fight for him.

Now we've got I wish we had a better case. We got more with Mark Lamont here. When we come back, don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Can we talk about the hero thing? Because I think sometimes when people be like oh he wasn't a hero they necessarily think he was a villain no you just normal you just he's a person person people do the thing like all of us and i'm not excusing anything that george floyd did or anything that anybody's done right but george floyd as we talk about in the book he was improving he was fighting for sobriety he loved his kids he was working for a job he was trying to he was trying to do something with himself like so many people in this country

are trying to do but especially black males in america he was praying he went through a lot of trauma yes things that he had to deal with in his own personal life exactly then the pandemic hit and you have to really humanize what people's circumstances are as something that we all go through but i hate that we have to say that though right like I hate that we have to say that, though. Right. Like, I hate that we have to say he was improving. It doesn't matter. It shouldn't matter. He was a person. He was a human being that did nothing.

Right. He could have not been improving. He wasn't fighting back. Right. He could have not been improving. He could have been terrible. He wasn't, but he could have been a terrible human being. It doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter. Just don't kill him. It's not in warrant at all. Period. I can't breathe. Right. He crying for his mom in public. And people, shout out to Darnella Frazier for shooting it and for videotaping it.

Because that's courageous, too. People act like, I mean, I think sometimes we do too much videotaping and not enough intervention. And she felt bad about that. Like she said, you know, you feel some type of trauma from witnessing that and then feel like, should I have done something? Right. And here I am. Because then people get mad at you. Like, oh, you was just standing there filming it and you didn't even do anything.

And I think it depends on the situation. In that case, I don't expect this black girl girl to jump four cops were standing there right cops didn't intervene if they not intervening what's she gonna do and if she doesn't intervene does she get shot does she get a knee on her neck i understand why she might not have intervened exactly but a lot of times we will videotape a fight we will videotape might get in their ass whooped in public and not do anything about it on trains, on street corners. And that's why I get frustrated. We have to intervene. We can't become so obsessed with the videotape

that we don't actually stop the thing from happening because the police can't save us. I'm an abolitionist. The police can't be the answer. We gotta be the answer. And sometimes we get so caught up in the surveillance and the spectacle of it because that'll get us likes. That'll get us clicks. That'll get us streams that we forget that this is about human surveillance and the spectacle of it because that'll get us likes that'll get us clicks that'll get us Streams that we forget that this is about human life and this is about loving ourselves and in each other when you talk about

Um, you know, like we all know all the benefits of social media when it comes to the social justice movement Like what bothers me is the trauma that I know it causes Yeah, these are these are like you're watching these videos even when you talking about the George Floyd video I'd like yeah, I could feel the anxiety I first felt when I watched that video like that doesn't leave you when you see it So that's that's what makes me keep wondering is it helping or is it hurting? What I tell people is It helps that we know the video exists. Mm-hmm Everybody know there's not a person America doesn't know about Rodney King not a person America didn't know about George Floyd

You don't have to watch it, though. So I tell people to engage in some self-care about that. But your point is a profound one, which is the steady stream of images of black death. And it's black death. White people do not have to worry about turning on social media and seeing people who look like them get killed. Asian people don't worry about turning on the evening news, cable news, and seeing themselves be murdered or beaten or other things. It does normalize it. And it can objectify our body so so on the one hand when you see it you're outraged but if you see it all the time it just makes you one it traumatizes us because it's people we know or people who could be george floyd could be us you know tamir rice could be us

um brianna taylor could be us but it also can make it so normal to people that they stop being outraged. It's like when you hear five people in Chicago were shot or there was a bombing in Lebanon or whatever, right? Or there's famine in Africa. There's certain things that we hear so much that it's hard to be outraged every day by it. And so Black Death, we have to kind of balance that.

But that's the balance we've always had to have. Ida B. Wells, she took the postcards. She took the images of lynching that white people were using as postcards. They'd be lynchings and they would send them out as postcards. They would take black fingers and toes and use them as souvenirs. They were celebrating those images. She took those images to create a moral panic to say, look, they are killing us. We're hanging from trees. And some people said this causes trauma. But she understood the balancing act of that. Now, there are some people on the Internet who make their business on black trauma. They make their whole enterprise just showing black trauma.

That's not helpful. There has to be a balance of trauma and healing, of intervention, of support, and of organized action, not just for ourselves, but to actually stop this from happening. And I think the other thing that bothers me, it's not changing the culture of policing. Clearly, they don't care. They don't care whether it's on camera off camera they don't care that's what we've been saying and in the abolitionist movement for a long time is like reforms don't work people thought body cameras would save us right just like back when i was i was an activist as a teenager in the rodney king time it was like fire the police they just hire more because it's a culture then Then it was get black cops. Then we were getting beaten by black cops.

You know what I mean? Have them live in your neighborhood. They know where to find you. These aren't the solutions because policing is the problem. And body cameras, sometimes they will help, but body cameras do more to exonerate cops than they do to get justice for the people who were killed by cops. What is the solution?

In your opinion? Abolish police. Abolish police. Get rid of policing and imagine a new way. In totality. In totality. Abolish police and abolish prisons. We gotta do it. Now, it's an incremental process. So what do you do for people that commit crimes? What do you put them in? How do you police

neighborhoods? Well, first, we gotta reimagine, because even as you're talking about it, or you say, how do you police neighborhoods? Neighbors don't have to be policed. Neighbors have to be safe. Neighbors have to be protected. But there's crime in every neighborhood. There is crime, but see, let me take one step back. Crime is a social construct.

What do I mean by that? People don't commit crimes. They commit acts. And some acts get criminalized. For example, if we were to all smoke weed right now, that would not be a crime. It's not a crime in New York. Ten years ago, it would be a crime. The moral nature of it or immoral nature of it hasn't changed.

The ethics of it hasn't changed. Whether I thought it was right or wrong doesn't change because my ethics aren't tied to the law exclusively. Right. So crime changes across space and time. If somebody decides something is a crime, black people being free, black people reading was a crime. You know what I mean?

So I try not to use the language of crime because crime is a construct. I'm not trying to be all academic as much as to, no, no, but it's a great question. For me, it's more about saying people commit harm. How do we deal with acts of harm? And it's because that allows us to shrink the net. Because if we say crime, all kinds of stuff is a crime. But if we shrink it, so how do we reduce harm in our neighborhoods well the first thing we got to do is get at the thing get at the root causes that's when we say radical radicals is a way of saying get at the root cause the root

cause of most harm most crime is poverty it's inequality most people don't rob people just to rob people some people do but most people don't when people just to rob people. Some people do, but most people don't. When people have jobs, they commit crime. People have libraries. They commit crime. They commit when they have school access, coaches, music programs, arts. They commit crime less. So we got to get at that stuff. We have to reimagine what safety looks like. like so for example even an example I gave earlier about stop videotaping people getting beat up and jumping and stop it we can complete our own neighborhoods we can we can have community watches and things like that we can have public safety forces when somebody's did my man in Atlanta got drunk fell asleep in the parking lot of a Burger King remember in the police he ran away in the police like shot him shot him and you can say don't run from the police that's what a lot of people say fine don't run from the police. That's what a lot of people say. Fine. Don't run from the police. But the fact that the only people you could call

the man was sleeping in his car minding his own business. But the only people we could call was an armed police force whose job is to escalate. What if we had a public safety force who could get that man home? He wouldn't have committed a crime. And that whole interaction would not have happened. Now I know anybody listening to this when I talk about

abolition particularly prison abolition will say yeah that sounds good for drunks and that sounds good for drugs because we can decriminalize drugs. Correct. But I know some s*** is crazy. That's right. Or you could say that, you know, I think Angela Yee reported a couple of days ago that there was so many, how many, like 80,000 businesses looking for people to work and nobody wanted to work. Yeah. So you said people looking for jobs, people need jobs, but now there are jobs out there. People don't want to work.

Some people don't want to work, but we also need to get people living wage jobs. You know what I mean? And I know the difference. If you pay us my $8 an hour and you don't have any money, yeah, I'll tell people work. Right. I got I take care of a lot of people. You know what I mean? And a lot of them don't want don't work.

You know what I mean? And they're like they're too proud to work for the $8 an hour, but they're not too proud to call me with a cash-out request once every other week for money. So I get the frustration. But at some point, we got to give people living wage jobs. You can't have a life of dignity for $7, $8, $9 an hour. If we give people $15 an hour minimum just to start,

I think suddenly people are in a much different place. And then those jobs grow. So that's part of the issue. So we're going to figure something else out So we're going to figure something else out. You know, we're going to figure something else out. All right. Mark Lamont Hill, seen and unseen, out right now. Go get it with Todd Brewster.

Yeah, great conversation. Appreciate you, brother. Always, always, man. Love y'all, man. Pick up the book now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.

It's time, time, time. It's time. She's spilling the tea. This is the Rumor Report with Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. Well, it looks like Chris Rock is working on his jokes about the Will Smith slap. Now, Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock were on stage together. You know there's no phones allowed, allegedly, so we don't have video of this. But according to reports, while they were on stage together,

they were talking about their different interactions. And according to reports, Chris made a joke. He said, at least you got smacked by someone of repute. I got smacked by a homeless guy. Well, this is what Dave Chappelle said. At least you got smacked by someone of repute. I got smacked by a homeless guy with leaves in his hair.

And then Chris Rock responded and said, I got smacked by the soft repute i got smacked by a homeless guy with leaves in his hair and then chris rock uh responded and said i got smacked by the softest m word that ever rapped so i don't believe chris rock said that i think chris rock is uh way smarter and wittier than that and why would he be calling somebody else soft chris well i don't know i don't think chris would do that i don't know well a lot of reports are saying from people that were people said yeah that they heard it n Niggas be lying. I mean, I also feel like it might have been just the two of them are riffing back and forth on stage as you're working on jokes. Sometimes they're not the funniest right away as you're trying to work on material. And that's what the point of it is.

That's why they don't like people to have their phones out, because while you're working on material, you're still doing it. So it could have been something as they were going back and forth that was more spontaneous. All right. Now the show Queens has been canceled by ABC after one season. Unfortunately, that's just how the Eve, Brandi, Notori

were all in together. I actually saw Notori over the weekend right after she found out the news. She said the showrunner had just called her before she walked into the event and let them know

that the show wasn't coming back. Yeah. So following the finale, Brandi had hoped there would be a second season to flesh out more performance-wise from the crew. She said she would have loved to see season two. So looks like it wasn't going to be able to happen. Weren't you on there, Envy? We were all on there. Yeah, we were all on there.

Yeah. Okay. They did it from up here. All right, now Snoop Dogg has actually gotten part stake in Ice Cube's Big 3. So according to TMZ Hip Hop, Snoop, along with PayPal co-founder Ken Howery, spent $625,000 to purchase an ownership stake. Here is what Ice Cube and Snoop had to say. What's happening? Y'all know what it is, man.

Big 3. It's that Big 3 ownership going down. Cube and Snoop had to say. What's happening? Y'all know what it is, man. Big three. It's that big three ownership going down. F*** Snoop. I'm going to give you a couple of teams, cuz. You're going to give me a couple of teams? I'm going to give me a couple of teams, cuz. I ain't going to buy one. I'm going to get a couple of teams. I'm with the move.

So y'all better hurry up and get in where you fit in, because it may not be none left. Hello. You heard it from the dog's mouth, man. Get you a team, stop tripping stop playing with us yeah yeah three baby yeah yeah what they sell the teams at target like why you make it sound so easy what it's used to invest buy them up yeah where they at maybe they're looking for investments where they at though all right now let's talk about this top 50 female rappers list. I saw people commenting on this. This was done by

5050 Entertainment. And some people were commenting on social media about that the city girls were left off JT posted where the city girls I guess we seen could have least put us at number 50. And then Cashtel also commented hilarious. Number one on the list was Nicki Minaj. Number two was little Kim. Three was Missy Elliott. Four was Queen Latifah. Number one on the list was Nicki Minaj. Number two was Lil' Kim. Three was Missy Elliott. Four was Queen Latifah. Number five was Lauryn Hill. Number six was Left Eye.

Seven to Brat. Number eight was Eve. Number nine was Foxy. And number ten was Cardi. Followed by number eleven with Trina. Now they did post, here's our top 50 greatest female rappers of all time list revised. Let's argue. So a lot of arguments then clearly ensued after that.

I mean, a list is just like an NFT. It only has the value that you give it. Correct. You know, like who do you say created that list? 50-50 Entertainment. No disrespect to them. I never heard of them, but salute to them, you know, because clearly people are talking about their list,

but it only has the value that you give it. Yeah. Everybody does a list. It doesn't even matter. I saw Janelle Monae on the list. Yeah, I was going to say Janelle Monae is not a rapper. No. It's just like, yo, a list like that, it only has the value that you give it, so. That's right.

Yeah, so I see a lot of people from Detroit on this list, too. Well, Cash Doll was number 43, so she did make the list, but I think she felt like she was too far down, because I see Rocky Bad is on the list, Molly Brazy did make the list, but I think she felt like she was too far down because I see Rocky Bad is on the list. Molly Brazy's on the list. They're from Detroit. Maybe 50-50 Entertainment from Detroit. Could be.

Yeah. Maybe. I'm not sure where they're from, but everything's... When you make these lists, it always sparks a debate. Lizzo's on the list, too, by the way. All right. Well, that is your rumor report. All right. Thank you, Miss Yee. Again, shout out to your rumor report. Alright, thank you Miss Yee. Again, shout out to everybody that's

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wish I could have caught that Ghostface and Raekwon performance. Man. Also, Mark Lamont Hill for joining us this morning. That's right. Make sure you grab Seen and Unseen, Technology, Social Media, and the Fight for Racial Justice from Mark Lamont Hill and Todd Brewster. It's out everywhere you buy books now.

Absolutely. Alright, when we come back we got the positive note. And again, a shout to all the moms out there. Hopefully you guys had a happy Mother's Day and a great Mother's Day. Yes. Happy Mother's Day, everybody. Alright. When we come back, positive note. It again, a shout to all the moms out there. Hopefully you guys had a happy Mother's Day and a great Mother's Day. Yes. Happy Mother's Day, everybody. All right. When we come back, positive notice to Breakfast Club.

Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. And happy birthday to Catherine Smalls. She turned 102 years old. I guess one of the listeners, that's her mom or grandmom, I'm sure. That is amazing.

I want us to shout her out. Happy birthday. I hope she's listening. It starts yesterday and today? Yesterday. Oh, Mother's Day. Wow. Well, yeah, happy birthday to her.

All right. Now, Charlamagne, you got a positive note? I do, man. And, you know, I got to salute Kendrick Lamar again for the hard part five. Love that record that he put out. You know, he's really speaking to what we

call culture, man. And it made me think of a quote from Resmaa Minicum. And Resmaa always says that trauma in a person decontextualized over time looks like personality. Trauma in a family decontextualized over time looks like family traits. Trauma in a people

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