The Breakfast Club - The Jury Deliberates

Episode Date: July 2, 2025

Will tomorrow be the last day of the Diddy trial? The jury is wrapping up deliberations and the stress is on. The RICO has everyone twisted!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Now, when we are talking about shaking the room, love to take y'all to court. Today was stressful and I am not on trial, okay? I am not on a federal trial. I am not, like, I'm just not, I'm not the center of attention here. At the end of this, I will be able to go to my family. I will be able to continue my life. I'll be able to go to work. I am not, or I'm not the center of attention here. At the end of this, I will be able to go to my family. I will be able to continue my life.

I'll be able to go to work. I am not, or I'm not going to prison, but I promise you guys, today, when that drawer note came in, saying that there was a verdict reached, we all felt like, oh my God, like everybody. Now here is what happened. At 4 or 5 p.m. there was a note that was received from the jurors to the court.

Now the way that this day is set up, when you're on this verdict watch, all of us are kind of just like sitting around and waiting. If you're in the courthouse, you're literally doing nothing. Diddy is not in the main court for majority of this sitting around and waiting, unless there is a note that comes up or something that needs to be addressed. He is in a holding cell.

His family is there, but his family is in and out of court. Lunchroom, leaving, coming back, different things, because you're literally just sitting. We all are just sitting. So when this note came, I'm watching via the online because there are court reporters who are in the actual court that are able to tweet out at real In real time so today and yesterday and I told myself all of this week My goal is I just want to be in the vicinity of the court So I've literally just been sitting outside of court in my car watching what's happening

But watching other news figuring out, know, what I'm gonna talk about, just doing other things as we're waiting. Because again, if you are not, if there's not a journal, if there is not a conversation or issue brought up, nothing is happening, everyone's just sitting. So we're all just sitting around. At this point, Diddy's kids are not even in the courtroom, you know,

and I think because a lot of us expect it for the verdict to be reached tomorrow, you know, it was a possibility that it could be today. We were prepared for it to be today, but I think a lot of the media there thought tomorrow, potentially today, but I think we all thought tomorrow was going to be that day. The slam dunk day was tomorrow, right?

So we, everybody is going insane, right? We find out that there's this journal at four or 5 p.m. So I hop out my car, it's pouring down raining too outside of the court. We get back in the courthouse, while we're on our way in court, and when I say we, I was with Armand Wiggins, me and him are on our way back in court.

We were literally sitting in the car, just waiting to see what was gonna happen court normally is adjourned around 4 o'clock. I Remember it was like 3 45. I'm like y'all ain't over it coming today. We thought it could be today But ain't no verdict coming today. It's probably gonna be early tomorrow morning 405 that no hits we run to the court. We are entering through the main court door normally going through a side door we enter into the main court door in front of us is a baby loves mom and Everybody like baby loves mom the media in front of us to media it behind us Everybody's like what's happening what's happening?

Because once you enter the court doors, you're supposed to turn your phone off. I kept my phone on So I'm checking out the online court reporter's ex account because I wanna know what's happening. 4.05 PM, there's a note that's brought in by the jury, right? And then 4.19 PM, the prosecutor hands a piece of paper to Diddy's lead attorney, Mark Agnifilio. When he gets that paper, he passes it on. He then passes it on to two of his other attorneys,

including Nicole Westmoreland. And then Diddy is brought into the court from a holding cell. So when this happens, originally I'm thinking, okay, this is another court note. I literally said out loud, because when I first got this alert that this happened, we're still sitting in the car, and I'm like,

I said, oh, the jury just has another question. This is like their fourth court note. They were just arguing earlier when they got into court after figuring out the drug distribution conversation about Cassie's testimony or post on Instagram and the domestic violence post and all these things, right? So I'm thinking this is a normal court note and Then they bring Diddy in from the holding cell so then after they bring Diddy in from the holding cell

He's standing there with his hands in his pocket his attorneys begin speaking to him. It's so dramatic, right? But in real time it's like oh Something going on. This is not just a regular, we got a question about testimony, what did y'all mean by this? His attorneys huddled around him. He then sits down. All attorneys are huddled around him at this point. All eight of his attorneys are around him. His hands are on his lap. He then starts rubbing his eyes. Now, granted, y'all know, like, if you're in the overflow room, you're not gonna be able to see this. And mind you, while all this is happening,

we're still going through security, trying to get into, because everybody, even his kids, were working their way back into court at this time, because nobody expected this verdict to come today. We thought it would be early tomorrow morning. So his kids, we're not in line with his kids, but they're trying to figure out, getting his kids back there.

We have one of his kids' mothers in line with us in security. We're all living off of my tweets at this point. I'm literally talking to Baby Love's mom and she's freaking out. She's asking, what's happening? What's happening? So I'm telling her what's happening.

I'm telling everybody what's happening. We're all trying to figure out what this means because what they said was, we've reached a verdict on count two, three, four and five. We are unable to reach a verdict on count one as we have jurors with unpersuadable opinions on both sides. Now I wanna break down the counts because I think, again, from the beginning, people have been very confused

about what Diddy is actually on trial for. Count one, a racketeering, which is at Rico. He's charged with two counts of sex trafficking involving his ex-girlfriends, Cassie and then Jane Doe. He's charged with three counts of transportation to engage in prostitution. Now remember, Diddy pled not guilty and he turned down a plea.

So normally when you turn down a plea and you take something to trial, you were saying that whatever those mandatory minimums are, whatever weight these charges carry at minimum, you are willing to go to bat for that. Some of these charges that Diddy is facing, he could be in jail for the rest of his life. So at the moment that the verdict comes in and there's a one decision on count two, three, four and five, but count one,

which is the Rico, they cannot figure out what they decide. Oh, Diddy is it? Oh, we, I think we all felt the, my god, like, like, a little gasp went out through the court from what a friend was telling me. Mind y'all, we still trying to get through security security arguing us down because everybody's bum rushing trying to get through security. But of course, it's a heavy feeling, right? Because he doesn't know at this point is the verdict is a mystery to him at this point. He knows that they've reached something, a decision. He knows that there's one count that they're very strongly divided when it comes to making a decision on count one. Now let me tell y'all. So Diddy faces up to life in prison if the jury finds him guilty of the rocketeering

conspiracy. So that Rico, he faces up to 15 years if the jury finds him guilty of the racketeering conspiracy, so that Rico, he faces up to 15 years if the jury finds him guilty on sex trafficking, and he faces a maximum sentence of 10 years if the jury finds him guilty of transportation to engage in prostitution. So he can either be convicted on all charges, he can be found guilty on some of the charges, or he could be acquitted on all the charges. I do not believe that he's going to be acquitted on all the charges. I do not believe that he's gonna be acquitted on all the charges. I think that at least at minimum that transportation to engage in prostitution is something that will stick. I think that the sex trafficking between the girlfriends, I think that it will stick

but I think that they're gonna go very lightly on that one because that's still kind of like muggy gray area of like was it or was it not based on the evidence and the testimonies that we heard the Rico is where I think a lot of us knew the government was going to have a hard time proving their case. Now remember a few days ago a lot of us were confused a lot of people were confused because the government decided to back up off of a few theories. A lot of the attempted theories under this RICO, including the arson and other things,

attempted arson, right? The attempt, not the actual crime that was committed, but they attempt. They backed away from these theories and said, look, we wanna focus on what we know that we're strong on. And the reason why they did that is because they wanted to avoid a situation like this. It did not work because again, once you have those conversations out in front of these people,

the people cannot hear it. We are not in men in black. You can't just blink and it don't work out. By the time we got into the overflow room and I could actually visually see him, it was very obviously that he was stuck. Like he was stuck, very stuck, just there, like literally just there. Didn't turn around and look at his kids not one time. When we got in, Baby Love's mom had actually got in too. She was sitting in the second row.

She had said while she was waiting, you could see it. Like I could literally see her as I was talking to her as we were going through security. She's breathing heavy. She literally said, yo, if I faint, catch me. Because I can't describe the feeling, but it was such a, oh wow. Like we're finally at the point where we're gonna know

if this man's life is over. If the rest of his life will be spent behind bars, right? And then you see as we're, so now I'm in the overflow room and we're seeing, so eventually his daughter's got back there, his son's got back there, you know, his mom is sitting right there as well too. So the family is all there at this point.

So then they start going through the conversations. The judge is like, look, the jurors just gave us his letter. We gotta figure out how we address it, right? So the government is like, look, I think we should do a modified Allen charge. And Allen charge refers to jury instructions that you give a jury when they're hung.

I looked this up because we were having so much conversation about it in the courtroom, but y'all know me, I like to do my Googles, I like to figure things out for myself. So I went on a Cornell Law School's website. I've been using them a lot throughout this case as they bring up different landmark cases and just different things that they're using

to make their own decisions, both on the defense side and the government side, right? So according to Cornell Law School's website, this is the Legal Information Institute where they give you information on various laws and charges and things. The Allen charge refers to jury instructions that are given to a hung jury,

urging them to agree on a verdict. Now these Allen charges can be controversial and a lot of states don't allow you to use them, but federal courts do allow you to use them. But the government is like, I think we should do a modified Allen charge. Like where we don't do the full Allen charge. So like, you know,

we're not putting the full pressure on the people, but we should let them know, like, look, y'all gotta make a decision and y'all need to make one soon. They seem is like, no, this jury has been remarkable already. They sat through all of the evidence. They sat through all the deliberation.

They've been going through these things for weeks and hours and days. And they were able to come up with a unanimous decision on four of the five counts. Why would we now pressure them? They are more than capable of figuring this out. They just need more time. And it was a great argument that was made by Diddy's team

because right, again, none of made by Diddy's team because, right, again, none of us, Diddy's team, no one knows what their decision is either way. We just know that they've come to a decision on some of the counts, right? But you want to give them as much time as possible, uninfluenced. You want to, you don't want them to feel the pressure of anything. And then this came back up again too, because when you're talking about pressure, 4th of July is on Friday. At the end of the day,

these are normal people with families that have been in court for eight weeks long. And I said in my last upload, people do not understand being in court is taxing. It wears you down. There are so much information, so much time, so much back and forth, so much detail. I cannot imagine being a juror.

I would wanna pull my hair out right now. And you're trying to do the best by this person whose life is on the line and all of these things. It's a lot of pressure already. So if I'm a defense attorney, I want no more additional pressure if I can get it. The judge basically came to a middle point because he told the prosecutors, which is government,

he also told Diddy's team, like, look, y'all put together what y'all think my instruction for them should be because Diddy's team was like, we should just leave them alone. We should just let them do their thing. And the judge is like, we can't just let them do their thing. We can't just leave them alone because they're literally saying we have people who were equally

unpersuadable on both sides. We need to re-give an instruction because obviously it went over somebody's head or we need to give an instruction because if this is how they feel and they're sticking to their guns, we just got to deal with that how it comes. But at least we gave them as much instruction,

defining instruction as we could so that they could make one decision altogether on this last count, right? Diddy's team submits their email, the government submits their email, and the judge come back. He says to Diddy's team, he's like, you barely said anything.

And Diddy's team is like, well, that's because we don't really want much said. We want them to do their own thing. We want them to just get more time. The government is suggesting the Allen charge, and then bring up a line from um Avenatti's case where uh and when they said this I was like oh they know what they doing. They want the pressure. They want this to be done over with. They want the pressure. If the pressure gonna make you fall baby the government is like give it to me. So the government is like well we think that in addition to because government is like, well, we think that in addition to because they're, the government is like,

we think that in addition to our email that we sent you and the judge say, look, what you guys are saying is not too far off. Y'all are kind of basically both saying the same thing. So I'm gonna meet y'all in the middle and put together a charge to read to them. So then the government, is that okay? The government stands up and objects.

And the government is like, look, we object to this because we think that there should be something more defining and there's nothing defining here because Diddy's team is like, no, just tell them like, look, you guys have been great, take some more time. We're trying to keep it as cute as possible over here because we don't want them to feel pressured.

We don't want anything to be blamed on pressure, but we do have to define this a bit more. So the government is saying, let's use this line from Avenatti's case, which is a case that they brought up when they sent over their proposal of what or how they think the jury should be instructed. So the line was, there's no reason to believe that if this case were to be tried again, that another jury would be any more intelligent, more impartial, or more competent to decide

than you are. They wanted to drive the point home that, listen, if y'all can't come to a decision on this count, the case could be tried again. So why don't y'all take another look at the instructions, sit down, figure this out so that doesn't have to happen with another jury, right? Diddy's team is like, nope, no, that's too much. That's pressure. That is too much.

At this point, they reiterate, if they've already reached their verdict on four counts, they know what they're doing. They just need more time. Give them the more time. So then they have a conversation about what more time looks like, because technically court was supposed to be closed

on Thursday, which is the third, for the holiday of July 4th. The judge is like, if we need the time, we can figure out the logistics so that we can be here on the third for the holiday of July 4th. The judge is like, if we need the time, we can figure out the logistics so that we can be here on the third. Should we tell the jury that when I bring them in now, or should we wait? Like, what do you think we should do?

So the government is, you know, they're saying their piece. Diddy's team is like, no, we shouldn't tell them now because again, that adds to the pressure, because they're gonna be kind of scrambling to figure it out because they don't wanna be a, kind of like a logistical burden. They don't want the court to have to open up on their behalf and do all these things.

Let's not say anything to them about court not being open right now. And I get it, the court wants to be equally fair and transparent to the jury, but I think in being equally fair and transparent to our client, we shouldn't say anything. Let them tell us what they wanna do. So today bring them back in,

you can give them this additional instruction about, you know, what the instructions are and then, you know, leaning in on their own common sense and all the things that we've done already, right? And then allow them to figure out if they're gonna keep deliberating today or will we come back tomorrow? And then at the end of the day tomorrow,

let's see where they fall and then you give them the decision of like, hey, okay. So we will probably have to come back on here on the third. What do y'all wanna do? Because at that point, there's no added pressure. Court said, okay, the court agreed that they would kind of already start figuring out logistics for the third, just in case,

and that they will wait until tomorrow to have the conversation with the jury. Y'all, the stress is on baby, okay? The pressure is on. I think that we will get a verdict tomorrow, but again, this Rico, this is the Rico that has them, I don't know, man.

I don't know. Y'all let me know. What do you guys think? Drop your predictions in the comments. If you're listening, take it outside to the tweets and the streets. We outside, we outside, we outside. Outside in the tweets.

Every other page are gold. How do you think they ruled on the counts, the four counts that they've come to a decision on? Count two, three, four, and five. What do y'all think? I appreciate y'all for tuning in. This is the latest with Lauren LaRosa.

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