The Breakfast Club - The Vice President Should Be...? ( Ruff Ryders Founders Interview)

Episode Date: August 12, 2020

Today on the show we had the founders of the "Ruff Ryders" Joaquin "Waah" Dean and Darin "Dee" Dean and Chivon Dean call in and speak on the docu series about the record label, signing DMX and more. ...Also, Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to Steve Hartwell for his comments on Covid 19 and we also opened up the phone lines to see if our listeners thought it was mandatory for Joe Biden to pick a black female vice president. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:00:16 What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. We need help! That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast
Starting point is 00:00:46 Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's on your radio right now. Do you know how to pop that coochie for income? There you go. It's the world's most dangerous morning show.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Got the cameras, I'm out of here. I agree. What kind of show is this? Let's not listen to this show. The Breakfast Club. With DJ Envy. The captain of this bitch. With Angela Yee, the only one who can keep these guys in check.
Starting point is 00:01:58 With Charlamagne Tha God. I'm a lovable asshole. And this is The Breakfast Club, bitches! Good morning, USA! Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo and bushy-tailed this morning, huh, guys? No. Huh? No. No. Me neither. Don't need to lie about it. I thought it was Wednesday when I woke up. I wish. That means we'd be closer to the weekend, but it's not. It's Tuesday. Yeah. Goodness gracious.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Let's thug it out the best way we know how. That's right. That's right. What'd you guys do yesterday? Anything fun? Anything? Anything at all? Man, shut up, man. You know we ain't doing nothing. It's Groundhog Day every day, every every day every day okay asking us what we do like you think we well i'll be home you're right let me ask you how you doing yeah i know you're out in detroit what you doing um well you know i'm handling some business here with my house i have a house in detroit so i'm staying here but i have another house that has to get work done so i had to go
Starting point is 00:03:22 check on it and figure out how to move forward on the whole renovation process. And I was looking at some real estate. Okay. All right. Well, let's get the show cracking. We have the Dean family joining us this morning. The Dean family, of course, D, Wah, and Siobhan. They're the one that founded Rough Riders.
Starting point is 00:03:41 We signed DMX, The Lox, Eve, Drag On, and a host of others. Yeah, if you've been watching the incredible BET docuseries About No Limit on BET, the next docuseries they're doing, I'm sure you've seen the commercials, is The Rough Riders.
Starting point is 00:03:57 That starts tomorrow. Tomorrow, actually. 12th. All right, well, let's get the show cracking. Front page news, what we talking about? Well, let's talk about Chicago. Police have arrested more than 100 people, and that is all after a shootout and then looting downtown.
Starting point is 00:04:12 All right, we'll get into that next. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Where are we starting, Yee? Well, let's get in some front page news where we starting you well let's start with the nfl at least 66 nfl players have opted out of the upcoming season they have until thursday at 4 p.m eastern to decide and well they had until thursday to decide and after the deadline passed they said that out of the 2880 players 66 chose to opt out. They're saying that number could be higher because other places have reported it was 67 players. Okay. Makes sense, right, for your safety and family safety, if you have any type of things that might affect you. All right, now, confirmed coronavirus cases in the U.S.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Children rose by 90% in about four weeks this summer. So now there's 380,000 cases of coronavirus amongst children in the United States as we're all trying to figure out what's going to happen with kids going back to school this year. And another thing that has people outraged, deputies pointed guns at three black teenagers. They're the ones, though, that were attacked. Now, this video was posted to social media and it showed them being detained at gunpoint in Santa Clarita Valley after they were attacked by a man with a knife. So the video was posted on Instagram by Tammy Collins, who was the mother of one of the teens. She says her son and his friends were sitting at a bus stop when they were attacked by a homeless man who asked them for drugs then pulled a knife on them deputies were called to the scene by bystanders and those bystanders did include the manager of a restaurant that was nearby and they
Starting point is 00:05:54 were trying to get help for the boys all of them were black and when the police came they had at least two guns the teenagers had two guns pointed at them and the deputy commanded them to back toward them with their hands raised and then they were handcuffed here is what one of the mothers had to say thinking to myself thank god my boys did not flinch or whatever scratch or whatever because i felt like all he needed to see was them move an inch all the news is starting to sound like Groundhog Day. Everything is starting to sound redundant. And it's so nuts to me that, you know, in this climate,
Starting point is 00:06:32 when police officers absolutely know all eyes are on them, it's like they turned up on the BS. They didn't even try, you know, to do better. All across the country, you would think that they would say, you know what, let's do better, based off things that we better. All across the country, you would think that they would say, you know what, let's do better based off, you know, things that we've been seeing in the news, George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, et cetera. It's like they turned up on the BS, even
Starting point is 00:06:52 more. Right, really sad situation. Imagine you're the victim of a crime. You've already had a knife pulled on you, you've already been attacked, you call the cops, because that's what we're taught to do. You're traumatized. And they point guns at you. You're traumatized. And now the cops come and they point guns at you. You're traumatized.
Starting point is 00:07:07 They need to really change their model from the protecting the serve to something else. And if they are here to protect and to serve, it ain't in the interest of black people. All right. Donald Trump briefly had to leave a press briefing after there was a shooting near the White House. And here's what he had to say. I don't hear nothing. after there was a shooting near the White House. And here's what he had to say. I'll hang on. There was a shooting outside of the White House and seems to be very well under control.
Starting point is 00:07:35 I'd like to thank the Secret Service for doing their always quick and very effective work. But there was an actual shooting and somebody's been taken to the hospital. I don't know the condition of the person. Now, when they pulled him
Starting point is 00:07:50 off the stage, right, there was this noise. Was that a chopper going off or was that those cameras flashing? I think that was cameras. When they pulled him off the stage. Yeah, I think it was cameras. Yeah, it was cameras.
Starting point is 00:08:00 And I'm surprised he didn't... It sounded like a chopper to me. I'm surprised he didn't walk out there. You know, he's the type to be like, I'm not scared to walk out there. I'm surprised that didn't happen. No, he know, he's the type to be like, I'm not scared to walk out there. I'm surprised that didn't happen. He'd go hide in his bunker. Don't play.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Exactly. That is not who the type of person he is. He got to hide in the bunker first, and then he got to walk out. He got to walk out and show people. No, I wasn't scared. I was just checking the bunker again. Stop it. He might do that on Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Wednesday or Thursday when the coast is really clear. When the coast is clear. Okay. No. He won't even walk across the street without security. I mean, he is the president, Yee. I mean, come on. The president won't walk across the street without security.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Blanked by security. Well, he's not going to go outside when he hears, and he's also not going to go outside when he hears gunshots. None of us will. I would hope not. Right. So, I mean, that's what I'm saying. He's not going to go outside because, hey, what's going on out here?
Starting point is 00:08:49 He's going to go. I bet he goes today. Closest, Clay, he's going to go today. I wasn't scared. I'm telling you. All right. Well, I'm Angela Yee, and that is your Front Page News. Get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:09:00 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up right now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country.
Starting point is 00:09:17 I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia.
Starting point is 00:09:30 I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I trade my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that?
Starting point is 00:09:51 Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-A-Stan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together.
Starting point is 00:10:38 You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real inspiring stories from the people, you know, follow and admire join me every week for post run high. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to post run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt,
Starting point is 00:11:23 learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is your time to get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Whether you're man or flesh, we want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. So if you got something on your mind, let it out. Hello, who's this? This is Jennifer. Hey, Jennifer. Hey, Jennifer. Good morning, Jennifer. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Good morning. I was just going to say, thanks for always spreading the positivity, keeping it real. I love to hear that. And personally, I live, I'm from the Indy area. And so one of our schools, the kids were back for a couple of days and yesterday was their last day because there's so many COVID cases spreading right now. And personally, I chose to keep my daughter at home and do e-learning for the first semester just because, you know, that's what's important to me and my son. He has a heart condition and stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:13:03 so I didn't want to risk it. But it's just nuts. Right. Those are hard decisions to make as a parent. My daughter was upset with me because, of course, she wants to go back. She's ready, of course. I was about to say the same thing. Exactly. It's tough.
Starting point is 00:13:18 And I just, you know, pray for all those parents out there because I know it's hard. And, you know, but, you know, we have the rest of our lives to live. And I think, you know, taking a step back, you know, for a semester is the option they're giving us at a time. And, you know, isn't such a bad idea. And honestly, I don't know how long it's going to make it. Like I said, the one school in our district yesterday was their last day because so many cases are spreading. And I'm from a small city, so I can't even imagine the big cities. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Well, thank you for calling in. What she said just now, like, you know, you got a daughter. Like, I'm sitting here talking to my 12-year-old last night, and she's visibly upset if she's going to have to be home, you know what I'm saying, for the start of her seventh grade year. So it's just like, you're gonna spend most of your middle school time
Starting point is 00:14:08 or junior high time, whatever you call it, at home. Bro, today's my daughter's birthday and she wants to party with her class. It can't happen. My daughter,
Starting point is 00:14:17 my five-year-old daughter was born today. It's Thursday. You gotta do it virtually over Zoom so they can say happy birthday to her, which is crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:23 My daughter, you know what I mean? But get it off your chest. I just tell my daughter at five, you don't have no friends yet. You get friends when you turn seven. Shut up. 800-585-1051. Get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:14:35 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Wake up. Wake up. Wake your ass up. This is your time to get it off your chest. Say it, say it with your chest.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? It's Q Butter. What up, bro? Get it off your chest. Q Butter? Hey, man. Yeah, man, sure. I wanted to get in there and get off my chest about these companies with these fine prints that'll get you, man.
Starting point is 00:15:10 I had this little side hustle to where I was renting my cars out, and then one of my cars got wrecked, and they wouldn't pay for it. Even though I had their premium insurance, you know, I did everything I was supposed to do, and they ripped me off. It's another one. Even with being a season ticket owner, you got to pay for the seats. And you got to pay for the tickets every year. But guess what? If you want to take a year off, they still going to get you
Starting point is 00:15:36 because you no longer own the seats all of a sudden. It's crazy. I don't know what he's talking about. Me neither. But have a good day, bro. Can you explain a little bit? No, I didn't explain a little bit. I was lost all the way.
Starting point is 00:15:46 When you're a season ticket owner, you got to pay for the seats. Correct. You got to pay for the tickets every year. For any seats, any team, you pay for the seats. Okay. Yeah, so even if you pay for the seats, say you wanted to take a vacation that year and you couldn't come, you don't own the seats anymore
Starting point is 00:16:05 because they're going to give them away and try to sell them to somebody else. It's like a time shift. You can't sell your seats to somebody else to use them while you're gone? Yeah, you can't. They just take it away from you. No, they don't know that.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Yeah, you can. But how do they know if you're going or not if you're a season ticket holder? Because they give you a book of tickets and you got to pay for the seat. Right. It's a time, it's a deadline
Starting point is 00:16:26 to where you have to pay for those tickets. If you refuse to pay for the tickets or you say, I don't want to pay for the tickets this year,
Starting point is 00:16:36 they're just going to take them away from you. You're not on the seats anymore. Yeah, you don't own the seats. But if you're not going to, but if you're going to pay, if you don't pay for them, then you don't own them anymore. But if you don't pay for them, then you don't own them anymore.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Well, I'm saying if they call you an owner of the seats, then you're supposed to own the seats. They're supposed to be yours. Only as long as you're paying for them, though. Yeah. You've got to pay for them still. Of course you don't own that arena or that seat. You don't own it permanently.
Starting point is 00:17:02 I'm not going to lie. I'm kind of with him. I thought that when you buy season tickets, that's your seat for the whole year. It is. It's why you're paying. For the season. But if you don't pay.
Starting point is 00:17:11 And then the next year, if you don't pay, you have to give them up. They take it away from you. Oh, he's talking about the whole next year where he didn't pay. Yeah, he says, why do they call me the owner of the seat?
Starting point is 00:17:19 Too early for this. Yeah. You have a good one, though. Good luck with that. Watch on TV. You're a season ticket holder. That means season. You can't just pay for one season and then think you have them for the rest of. Good luck with that. Watch on TV. You're a season ticket holder. That means season. You can't just pay for one season and then think you have them for the rest of your life.
Starting point is 00:17:28 No, but it says owner, so I own the seat forever. It's not a lifetime. You're not a lifetime ticket holder. You're a season ticket holder. Okay, that's why they say in life, things come into your life for reasons, seasons, and lifetimes. Sometimes the reason is somebody gives you a court-side seat to sit in. Sometimes the reason is somebody gives you a courtside seat to sit in. Sometimes the reason is somebody gives you tickets to go. Sometimes the reason is you bought a season ticket,
Starting point is 00:17:49 and I don't think there's no lifetime ticket. Is there a lifetime ticket holder? No. I don't think so. Unless you're an owner. If you own the team, you are. But other than that, no. Get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:17:58 800-585-1051. We got rumors on the way, Yee? Yes, and prayers up for Lakeith Stanfield. He was posting, Lakeith Stanfield, he was posting and there was some disturbing things, and so hopefully he is okay. Also, Nicki Minaj versus A$AP Ferg. Nicki Minaj fans are having an A$AP Ferg is over party.
Starting point is 00:18:16 We'll tell you why. All right, we'll get into that next. Let's keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. This is The Rumor Report with Angela Yee. On The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Well, it appears that Keith Stanfield was going through it as he posted some pictures and videos of himself. He said, I like to be by myself because I can hurt myself and no one tells me to stop or fakes like they care. And he posted a video of himself pouring liquor into a pill bottle. All right. Then he posted bottoms up and he posted a bottle of pills. And then he said, reality is boring and moves too slow and no one is trustworthy. And he posted the pills again. And then he posted outside is crazy. I'm going to just stay inside from now on.
Starting point is 00:19:07 And then he said, I'm okay, everyone. I appreciate everyone checking in on me, but I'm good. I'm not harming myself. Much love. Therapy, therapy, therapy. Listen, God bless that brother. It's a dark time. Whatever you need to do to stay mentally and emotionally healthy, do it.
Starting point is 00:19:22 I wonder about situations like that. Like when you get online and you post that you may be going through something mentally, if you don't receive the love, right? If you don't receive a bunch of people hitting you saying, yo, we care about you, don't do that.
Starting point is 00:19:37 If it's the opposite of that, I wonder if that will push you over the ledge. That's why I don't recommend people taking their problems to social media, but man, I guess when you don't have nobody else to reach out to, that's where you go, I guess. Yeah. Right, or sometimes maybe you were drinking or took something and you are kind of not in control of what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:19:56 You know, like it could be that just, you know, you get drunk and you start tweeting or you took something and you're a little out of it, so you start tweeting? It could be that too. Yeah, that's dangerous. That's dangerous because you get one or two or 20 bad tweets, people telling you, yeah, kill yourself. That might really push you over the edge.
Starting point is 00:20:20 So I wouldn't recommend taking my problems to social media. Not at all. Not at all. All right, well, he did. and prayers for lakeith stanfield so want him to be okay you know we just saw everything with azalea banks play out so whatever issues people are going through we love and support and we want to make sure that you are okay all right phil collins song in the air tonight is on the top of the charts after 39 years since it's been released if y'all need a refresher or maybe never heard
Starting point is 00:20:45 the song, here's what it sounds like. Yeah, why is it at the top of the charts now? So it's number three right now, After WAP and Bears in Sunshine by Darius Rucker. And this is all because of a video that went viral, Twins the New Trend. So these twin brothers, they're 22 years old, and they do these reaction videos where they show their reaction to certain songs so this is a song that they reacted to on their latest video so they heard it for the first time right yeah so they said because we're black and they don't expect us to listen to that type of music it's just rare to see people open these days people don't open up to step outside their comfort zone and just react to music that they don't know. So they reacted to all different types of music from different genres.
Starting point is 00:21:47 They started off just doing hip hop videos where they would react to hip hop songs. But then they took a suggestion to try out Frank Sinatra. And then they've gone into different genres since then. OK, first of all, first of all, young 22 year olds. All right. Don't speak for yourself. All right. We've been on Phil Collins here tonight.
Starting point is 00:22:04 OK, all right. That wasn't Phil Collins Heated Tonight In the air tonight Whatever the hell You've been on it though In the heat of the night Heated Tonight was a TV show But my point is we've been listening to that Phil Collins record That's not nothing new For us
Starting point is 00:22:20 Don't say black people don't listen to that song That's not necessarily true They've been listening to all kinds of... They didn't say just that song, but they've listened to everything from Pantera to Rage Against the Machine, The Carpenters. Now you're getting white on them now. Now that's white.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Phil Collins wasn't white? That song got too much soul. Way too much soul. Let's see how much y'all know. What group was Phil Collins in? I don't know I don't know either The what?
Starting point is 00:22:51 I listen to Genesis, I listen to all kinds of music too Especially from back in the day In the air tonight is a classic though It is That episode that they shelved on Black-ish Is going to be coming to Hulu It's the Please Baby Please episode. And Kenya Barris announced the news on social
Starting point is 00:23:07 media. He said in November 2017 we made an episode of Black-ish entitled Please Baby Please. We were one year post election and coming to the end of a year that left us like many Americans grappling with the state of our country and anxious about its future. Those feelings poured onto the page becoming 22 minutes of television
Starting point is 00:23:23 that I was and still am incredibly proud of. Please, baby, please didn't make it to air that season. And while much has been speculated about its contents, the episode has never been seen publicly until now. So it's going to be available on Hulu. It's now available on Hulu. Okay. I'm going to check that out. You guys want to watch it.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Yes, me too. I didn't even realize. And Nicki Minaj fans are upset at A$AP Ferg. They said he didn't send website sales for Move Your Hips to Billboard, so they started trending A$AP Ferg is over. Not sure how all of this happened, but the Barbz went and they
Starting point is 00:23:55 went and ordered the song. So they said Nicki Minaj's website pulled 13.3 thousand orders and Ferg had over 66.7 thousand orders and somehow, someway, they only got 15,000 orders and Ferg had over 66.7 thousand orders and somehow some way uh they only got 15,000 website sales due to bundle buying and they said Ferg 66,000 is nowhere to be found so their issue is that that song they went really hard to make it uh number one and higher up but it only hit number 19 on the billboard hat 100 so now they're going crazy on A$AP Ferg. Like he's the person that submits sales personally.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Question, how the hell they know A$AP Ferg didn't submit his sales? And since when do you got to submit sales? Since when is sales like signatures when you're trying to get on an election? That sounds crazy. Well, they said because it was only 15,000 in website sales.
Starting point is 00:24:42 So, you know, all that information is public. And they said that they bought 66.7,000. Yes, they do. They got a lot of information. Yeah, why are so fans involved in the business? And how do we know that the information is correct? I mean, I've never heard of somebody having to submit sales. I don't, I mean, I don't know anything about it.
Starting point is 00:24:58 But most artists, I'm sure, wouldn't do that. Most artists, the label does that. The label submits the sales. That's the whole team that does that. But why does the label have to submit sales? Don't you buy something digitally? It's tracked already? It's not?
Starting point is 00:25:09 Bro, I don't know. These are website sales, so maybe it's different. I don't know. Look, I don't even know if they're correct. I'm just telling you why A$AP Ferg is over, what's trending, and what happened, and what their accusations are. My goodness. People are nuts. All right.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Well, I'm Angela Yee, and that is your rumor report. All right. We got front page news coming up. What are we talking about? Yes, we do. And we are going to be talking about these young black boys who they called the cops. And then the cops came and pulled guns on them, even though they were the ones reporting a crime who did not commit a crime. All right. We'll get into that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tried my country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Bullets. We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing
Starting point is 00:26:36 daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. going. That's what my podcast Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've
Starting point is 00:27:12 hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt,
Starting point is 00:27:59 learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself.
Starting point is 00:28:32 You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get some front page news. Where we starting, Yee? Well, let's start with Santa Clarita. There was outrage after a video was posted to social media.
Starting point is 00:29:01 It shows three black teenagers. They were being detained at gunpoint after they were the ones who were attacked by a man with a knife. Now, this video was posted on Saturday on Instagram. Apparently, these three teenagers were sitting at a bus stop when they were attacked by a homeless man who asked them for drugs.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Then that homeless man pulled a knife on them. So the cops were called to the scene by bystanders, and the cops ended up pulling a gun on the three black teenagers who were the ones who had been attacked in the first place. Now here is Lisa Gray. She is the mother of one of the teenagers.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Thinking to myself, thank God my voice did not flinch or scratch or whatever because I felt like all he needed to see was them move an inch. You ain't even had to say black. You could have just said guess what race it is. Everybody knew they was black. That only happens to black people. The LA County Sheriff Alex Villanueva said this. I've seen the recent video involving a Santa Cruz incident which has gone viral and I have concerns regarding the tactics employed. A call for service was received
Starting point is 00:30:08 regarding a felony assault, and the deputies detained those allegedly to be involved. The matter is currently being investigated. Thank you for listening, and please stay healthy. Oh my God, he's reading that verbatim off somebody's paper. The crazy part is he said it was a tactic. It has nothing to do with tactics. It has to do with perception. They perceive black people as threats at all times. Why? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Right. What a traumatizing day for them. I'm sure. An experience. All right. Chicago police have arrested more than 100 people after a shootout and looting downtown. They said there was a fit of violence that appears to have started with police exchanging gunfire with a 20- and looting downtown. They said there was a fit of violence that appears to have started with police exchanging gunfire
Starting point is 00:30:47 with a 20-year-old man. Now, according to the mayor, Lori Lightfoot, she said it was deeply painful, and this has nothing to do with the First Amendment right to peaceably assemble. She said you have no right to take and destroy the property of others. We will not let our city be taken over by criminals and vigilantes, no matter who they are and what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:31:06 So people were arrested. They were charged with looting, disorderly conduct, and battery against police. They said police will maintain a heavy presence downtown until further notice. Downtown access is restricted now from 8 p.m. to 6 a.m. So with that limited access, that means all Cook County courts except for bond courts are closed on Monday. Monday's cases will be continued in 30 days. So bus and train service was suspended. Now people are fed up, man.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Economy is in the toilet. Unemployment at an all-time high. All people have is hurt and pain to share, and they will share it. Okay? Period. Not making excuses to justify what they did, but man, there's some people out there that is really hurting. And a lot of people out there hurting.
Starting point is 00:31:50 A lot of people out there hurting. I saw a video of somebody going live and they were trying to break an ATM machine. I seen that. And I saw academics posted that. I don't know why. That's what people do. That's what people do. But on live?
Starting point is 00:32:04 It's not even that. But you get on your own live. Like, I mean, you're telling on yourself. Like, not only are you going to break into the ATM, you're going to give the police the video to prosecute you to break into the ATM. If you just want to go back to jail, you might as well just stand in front of the police station. Face a clear view on the video. I think he wanted some direction.
Starting point is 00:32:19 I think he needed somebody to get on there and say, look, you're doing it all wrong. How I get in. This is how you poke the brick into this ATM machine. You could have just Googled, but you know. Alright, a military veteran was serving a life sentence and that was for selling less than $30 worth of marijuana
Starting point is 00:32:35 and he will soon be released from prison. Derek Harris, he was arrested in 2008 in Louisiana. He sold an officer.69 grams of marijuana and he just recently was resentenced to time served. That's crazy for selling $30 of marijuana. He was convicted and sentenced to 15 years in prison and then resentenced in 2012 to life in prison under the habitual offender law. Yeah, that judge, it seems like that judge should go to jail.
Starting point is 00:33:05 If he sold $30 worth of marijuana and they said they served him with life, that judge shouldn't go to jail? Not to mention, he had a substance abuse problem that started when he was sentenced. The judge shouldn't go to jail.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Sadly, she's only sentenced based off the law. The laws need to be changed. Well, he had a substance abuse problem that started when he returned from Desert Storm, and they said his prior offenses were nonviolent and related to his untreated dependency on drugs. So the judge can't override that? If a man sold 39 grams of marijuana?
Starting point is 00:33:44 I don't think he should have been sentenced to that at all. Judge can't override that? If a man sold 39 grams of marijuana? I don't think he should have been sentenced to that at all. If that was the case, they could have dropped it to a lesser charge so he wouldn't be sentenced to life? Nah, that's not right. All right, well, that is your Front Page News. I'm Angela Yee. Thank you, Ms. Yee. Now, when we come back, the Dean family will be joining us,
Starting point is 00:34:03 the founders of Rough Riders. You know, signed some of your favorite acts from The Lox to DMX to Eve to Drag On to so many more. We're going to kick it with D-Y and Siobhan when we come back. So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got some special guests in the building. We have the Deans, D.Y. and Siobhan,
Starting point is 00:34:30 the founders of Rough Riders. Good morning, guys. Good morning. Good morning, baby. Good morning. Listen, man, I thoroughly enjoyed the Rough Rider documentary. And right off top, I got to say, I'm happy y'all cleared up something I always wanted to know.
Starting point is 00:34:43 And that's why I wasn't DMX in the battle video with Jay-Z. Yeah, that was ugly. Basically what happened was when we did the battle over there in the Bronx, the crazy thing is that I didn't have any stuff published and stuff. Everything I was doing
Starting point is 00:35:01 I was in the transition of getting this publishing and everything up and running. Just really doing a lot of other things. I was doing, I was in the transition of getting his publishing and everything up and running. You know, just really doing a lot of other things. They was battling. I told Dame, I was like, yo, Dame,
Starting point is 00:35:11 we can't have no filming on DMX stuff because we don't want nobody, you know, copywriting and biting his lyrics and all that. So that's how it started. Dame was like,
Starting point is 00:35:20 yo, you messed that up. I said, it's all good. I said, but we wasn't, you know, X had a lot of epic lyrics. So I was like, nah, you messed that up. I said, it's all good. I said, but we wasn't, you know, X had a lot of epic lyrics. So I was like, nah, we can't do that. You'll see this in his documentary too because we have that footage. When was the documentary shot?
Starting point is 00:35:34 When did y'all shoot that documentary? We shot it in 19. What's your relationship with DMX now? Because I've seen it in the documentary. He seemed upset because he thought he was going to get a percentage of rough riders. But then during the battle, I've seen you guys at the battle He seemed upset because he thought he was going to get a percentage of Rough Riders, but then during the battle, I seen you guys at the battle. So what's the relationship now with X? I mean, he ain't here, but he's over here with us right now.
Starting point is 00:35:53 We're doing this album as we speak, so X is like a little brother. No matter how much he gets mad and things happen, we fix it and straighten it out. So it's all family here. You're never really going to have too many artists that we deal with where there's a real problem. We try to fix it and keep everything in-house. Well, I know when people watch this, they won't have seen the docuseries at all yet.
Starting point is 00:36:14 So I want to talk about Rough Riders and you guys getting started because DMX was your first artist. But you guys didn't start off as music industry, as a music industry family. So let's talk about how Rough Riders even got started. It started with a basic conversation with Heavy D, rest in peace, Heavy D. You know, Montverne, New York, we lived in Montverne, New York, Puffy and all these guys.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Basically, I told him, I said, yo, Hev, let me ask you a question. He said, what? He said, I said, yo, I want to get into this music business. How we can get out of the streets into the music business so he was like yeah um he said get an artist you believe in make hits in the industry come to you i said that's it i said he said yeah that's it and my man tiny was with me and he gave me the cassette he was like well i got dms cassette tape right here so when he gave he gave it to Hev, Hev gave it to me. He was like,
Starting point is 00:37:06 this is your first artist. So I popped it into 300ZX. From there, you know, I went straight to see DMX from there to Yonkers. And that's how our journey started with DMX. I know Puff was sick. He didn't sign DMX, though.
Starting point is 00:37:18 I know Puff was sick. Yeah, but a fun fact. Let me give you a fun fact going back to where we started. So Joaquin didn't express to you that he started with R&B artists first prior to DMX. And when we didn't hit with that artist, that's when we went into a rap game. And then a second fun fact is that Puffy's parents and our parents grew up together.
Starting point is 00:37:48 The relationship, how we forged the relationship with Puffy and Puffy was responsive to us because of our parents. And his father and our father were best friends. Wow. What's the thing about not signing X like damn, I missed out on that one. Y'all gave him the opportunity.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Y'all gave it to him on the platter. Yeah, I was with Puff, and we was in California in his house because we was on tour with him with the Locks and Mace. And I was like, yeah, you need to. I said, he's probably like one of the best out of the pick of the litter that we have. He was more into shiny suits and dancing with Versace and all this type of shit. So he didn't feel X was gritty. He didn't see him until the world saw him and it was too late.
Starting point is 00:38:30 He definitely missed that train because he had him first, literally, but he didn't take him. Were y'all hesitant about speaking on any of the street s*** in the documentary? They never really asked me about it. I wasn't hesitant. I would have... If they asked me, I would have told them, but it wasn't really much that we could tell them. It's just street s***. Same thing that everybody else was doing
Starting point is 00:38:52 that was in the street was hustling, trying to make money to do other things, to get out the street, and that was it, you know? I mean, they ain't gonna get no more than that, Charlamagne, don't worry about that. But I'm talking about more so how y'all got people out of contracts. Y'all sitting at a couple of people, man.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Like, there was one line where the dude was like, I ain't never been shot before, and you told him because you ain't never been shot by me. You know about that, Charlamagne? Yeah. It was in the documentary. Did you watch it? Look, that was on, I didn't see it, but that was on the side screen.
Starting point is 00:39:23 I don't know how they got that one. You gave them that? I ain't give them that. Yeah, that was on, I didn't see it, but that was on the side street. I don't know how they got that one. You gave them that? I didn't give them that. Yeah, that's what they got. Yeah. That was a good one. Charlemagne, I like that one. That was a good one.
Starting point is 00:39:33 It was the one day, and it was the locks, and they was in a contract with these guys, and they was young, and they signed all this paperwork, and he didn't want to let them out. And I was like, you're not doing nothing with them. So, you know, the best thing to do is is we're gonna help them get to where they gotta go because you're just holding them hostage you're not even doing music no more so i think the best thing to do is um to just let me and my brother take them and so they can try to you know become
Starting point is 00:39:59 the artist they want to be because you're just holding them and you ain't doing that so we was talking he was whatever and he you know he was with his little crew he felt comfortable and his man stepped in it wasn't even him his man stepped in but he ain't scared i said he ain't gotta be scared he said he's been shot before i said well what i'm gonna do with me he didn't get shot by me or else he wouldn't be here and that made him uh relinquish that deal fast i mean he kind of thought about it and he was like all right i knew him though but the guy that that had him i kind of thought about it, and he was like, all right, I knew him, though, because the guy that had him, I kind of knew him. He was from the area where we was from,
Starting point is 00:40:31 but he was a good kid. He wasn't a street kid, so he just happened to be smart, savvy, and get them the signs, and they believed in him. So it wasn't like I didn't know him at all. I knew him. We did know him, so we just had to go through that a little bit to get him out. Did you have to buy him out at all? Like, what if they'd have been like, look, all right, if you give me X amount of dollars,
Starting point is 00:40:48 then... Yeah, we would have did that if it was something reasonable and feasible. While I was handling all the paperwork, why are you probably still giving him money? We ain't paid nothing for that. We just, we signed, we got DMX out of his deal. We paid a lot of people visits. Basically, you know, we trying to get out of these streets. We like,
Starting point is 00:41:03 yo, listen, man, y'all gotta to do what y'all got to do. You know, get this deal done. They ain't doing nothing like D said. It's a done deal. I did the paperwork. I pressed these cats. We did it together. It was just fun as a survival tactic.
Starting point is 00:41:16 You know, just trying to get out of the street and get into something legit. All right, we have more with the Rough Rider founders when we come back. So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. D.J. Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, we're kicking it with the Dean family,
Starting point is 00:41:31 the founders of Rough Riders, D, Y, and Siobhan. Now, I didn't see all the episodes yet, but did y'all break down what happened with the locks and Diddy and how y'all got the locks out that contract? Puff, he dealt with Puff on that one. Well, Puff, like my sister said, his father and my father were best friends. So that was kind of a little easier
Starting point is 00:41:50 because we went in on the way of as family. You know, we didn't go in as we taking anything. We just, he's family. So my father told me that he was best friends with his father. So we kept it business and cordial. And we kind of got together as family and we worked it out. And he was like, all right, no problem.
Starting point is 00:42:08 And he was able to, he said he would do it because I helped him out. He had a situation once. And it probably was with Suge and his family. So, you know, Suge was throwing his weight around a little bit. So I was like, all right, let's go see him. He's not no big deal for us. So, you know, we fixed it and we fixed it out
Starting point is 00:42:26 and it worked it out for him. So everything was cool. So he was like, yo, good looking and whatever. So with anything you need, let me know. So that's the favor I called was to release the locks. Y'all had to handle something with Suge for Diddy? No, we didn't handle it. But I was like, if you need us,
Starting point is 00:42:43 so we can help you out if it's a situation. He was like, all right, so, you know, I'll let you know. But it all worked itself out. It didn't escalate, so it was pretty cool. And what happened with Rough Riders? Did you guys start focusing on other things, or what it was? Because at one time, you had all these artists,
Starting point is 00:42:58 and then it kind of just, everybody started going everything. It almost seemed like one started doing merch, and one started doing this, and one started doing that. What happened with Rough Riders? As far as like with the artists or just the company in itself? The label. The label. So basically what we was doing is when we got on, we got on through Tef Jam. Irv Gotti put us on in that situation. Then we went from there,
Starting point is 00:43:20 we did our thing with DMX. And then from there, we did our deal with Jimmy Iovine and Interscope. So when we crossed over to open our label, after we did that, everybody was growing. You know, we helped people become their own bosses. Because we was the ones that actually set the tone for the 360 deals. We was the ones that opened doors for multiple income streams and opportunities for the artists. And so we set up a lot of opportunities for them. But, you know, he helped out over there, getting into the movies over there. You know, you had the same thing with X over on that side.
Starting point is 00:43:56 We kind of like helped out from afar into those situations. And plus we had our own situation. We had our own production company, TV and film division. We had a lot of different companies because we was multitasking and building our brand. And then my brother had his bike accident. We was going through a transition to rehabilitate my brother and support him because that was more important than the music industry or anything else. So we stayed focused on that. And then I was stuck and my sister was doing, you know, she was doing rescue for a little bit, Rough Rides to the Rescue. And then, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:30 we kind of like settled back and really just was regrouping. Hey D, in the doc, you said that you were actually pronounced dead. And then I didn't realize that you was in a coma for three months. I didn't know it was that long. I know this might sound like a crazy question, but did you see what the afterlife looked like? Do you remember anything? I didn't really see anything, but I guess as I was getting closer to coming through, I could hear things, but I know I wasn't there.
Starting point is 00:44:58 I could still hear it. And there was people in the room, but it wasn't like I was able to respond. I was just laying there. But as I was coming closer to coming out the coma, I started hearing things. So it was just dark for you, like sleep? There you go, baby. It was dark as hell. You know why? You said something earlier. You said that y'all were learning while y'all were earning, and even watching the doc, it's like, man, I'm sitting there wondering, like, how do black people from the hood learn financial literacy
Starting point is 00:45:22 that fast in order to know what to do with all that money? There's a lot of greasy people so when you hire somebody doesn't mean necessarily in your corner where they supposed to be so there was a lot of lying a lot of stealing a lot of that people don't know about I won't mention any names but we wasn't with a lot of good people we wasn't with we didn't know that we wasn't with a lot of good people. We wasn't with, we didn't know that we wasn't with a lot of good people. Let me say that. We didn't know until we knew. But we had our ups and downs. It was really a learning curve, but it was a beautiful thing because we could have been
Starting point is 00:45:56 locked up and doing life in penitentiary or whatever. So this thing was like a true blessing for us to be able to make an exit out of the street game into a legitimate situation. But like I said, we was learning the game. We wasn't like Puff and all of them was interned under Andre Harrell. Rest in peace, Andre and all of them. With Russell and all these guys, they was interns in the game, learning the game. So when they got their chance to get the baton, they was able to maintain the presence. They knew who to work with, who not to work with. They knew how to flow.
Starting point is 00:46:28 We didn't have that opportunity. We was, we came straight off the street corner into the game. I got a couple more questions. Did y'all ever really promise DMX a piece of the company? No, no, no. You know, when I got DMX, DMX was, you know, in those streets, running the streets, doing what he's doing. It was basically, yo ex, I'm going, running the streets, doing what he's doing. It was basically, yo, X, I'm gonna come in here and do
Starting point is 00:46:47 what I do. I signed him under a production agreement. I had to get him out of those production agreements he was in. And then, um, so I just signed him over to production. Everything is good as sweet and peaches and cream. And then, you know, once everything blow up and whatever, then
Starting point is 00:47:03 everybody see things a little bit different but this is all good you know things happen and life goes on so we you know we I had to chase DMX the evening for like years I had to go through to get DMX to do an album or do anything was unheard of you know what they don't know? And this is the crazy part because they think that most of the time you get an artist and you probably sign them in a matter of months and they probably get a deal. This was a little different with X. We was working with X probably, what was it, 8 or 10 years ago before we even got a deal? Yeah, 12 years.
Starting point is 00:47:42 We did a deal with Columbia Rough House. That was a six, nine-month run. We did a little, we had a nine-month window. It was a single deal. Single, you know, it was the born loser. Didn't do all that great, but it was an opportunity. That was one of our own opportunities. After that, then we took us another six years or so
Starting point is 00:47:58 to get in a situation. Yeah, I had never heard those songs before until you played them in a documentary. I was like, I didn't even know. I heard Born Loser before. Chad Elliott did that Born Loser. He was one of the first producers that started working with us.
Starting point is 00:48:13 You know, then I brought Irv Gotti in. He put me with Irv Gotti. Irv Gotti was a DJ, and I brought Irv Gotti in from Chad Elliott. Puffy put me with Chad Elliott because Puffy was like, yo, I can't really, I don't have no producer. I can't really do
Starting point is 00:48:26 anything. I'm too busy. I said, all right, cool. Who you got that you can hook me up with? So he hooked me up with Chad Elliot and then he hooked me up with Irv Gotti and then I signed Irv Gotti as a producer and then we had him working with us and
Starting point is 00:48:41 your man Chad worked with Swiss and X. So that's how we started yeah he just never stopped working all right we have more with the rough rider founders when we come back let's get into a rough riders mini mix let's go that was a rough riders mini mix morning everybody is dj envy angela yee charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club we're still kicking it with dy and siob and Siobhan, founders of Rough Riders. Charlamagne? Was there ever any hesitation about going in business with X,
Starting point is 00:49:09 knowing he had a drug problem? Never, never with X. He had a drug problem, but I don't think it would have ever been no business with him. Like, him and my brother, they met and they was doing whatever they agreed on, and I don't know what the initial agreement was with them. So we were just still doing the music. But I don't think it was a problem giving them some of the company or breaking it down with them.
Starting point is 00:49:30 That wouldn't have been no problem. I was working with X when he was in the Matrix. He was in the Galaxy. That's what I did. I always supported X and did the right deal with him to make sure he was all right. The crazy part is we was already dealing with X on crack eight years before we probably even got a damn deal. So that wasn't nothing. We was dealing with him like that on the regular.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Yeah, we just believed in him. We believed it wasn't about drugs with X, you know, because we consider we consider you once you and your family, your family. You know, you know, we've been through with relatives and all that, had drug habits. We in the streets dealing with drug addicts every day. We didn't discriminate. You know, it was like, yo, we was blessed to be able to have an opportunity to work with X
Starting point is 00:50:18 and get out of, you know, and put this work. And a lot of people was like, yo, how you gonna work with this guy? He got, he's robbing people. He's doing all these different things. And y'all, you're wasting your time. I'm like, nah, it's my brother, so we're going to work with him. That's just how it goes. A lot of people told us
Starting point is 00:50:33 it was crazy. They was like, I don't even know where y'all f***ing with him. He's a crackhead. I was like, don't worry about it. He's good. We'll work with him. We got him. We're familiar with him, but he probably would have never been as successful as he is if it was just regular people
Starting point is 00:50:49 that wasn't familiar with going in buildings, getting them out of cracked buildings like we did. We was familiar with so if it was just regular people and he got a deal like at Sony or somewhere, they would have never been able to get him because you have to go through a lot of things to get to X.
Starting point is 00:51:05 And this was years. This wasn't a day. This was years and years. You got to go get them out the building, drag them out of here, bring them over here. So it was a lot of that way before we even got to the music. Why didn't DMX work at FDMO? You remember they battled years ago in the pool hall in the Bronx.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Right. So they battled. We called it a draw because they both was nice. So we said, all right, it's a draw. X felt like he won. Hov going to feel like he win. So it was an animosity there always. It was nothing verbal, but it was just in his mind,
Starting point is 00:51:38 like I won, I'm better than you. So when Hov wound up being the president of Def Jam, he felt that he had the answer to him and X ain't like that, you know, because he don't feel like he's better than him. Like, you're not nicer than me. I'm better than you. So he had some type of, he felt some type of way about Hov dictating his future.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Was the album really ready? The album that was at Def Jam that they kept saying wasn't ready, wasn't ready, wasn't ready. In y'all opinion, was it ready? I think it was at Def Jam that Dave kept saying wasn't ready, wasn't ready, wasn't ready. In y'all opinion, was it ready? I think it was ready, but it took a little longer because of the budget. We wasn't able to get certain things done as quick as normally, like at Interscope. And that's where he thought that Hope wasn't, he was trying to sabotage him because he wasn't getting everything that he was getting for Interscope. So he was thinking he was trying to sabotage. So it took us a little longer to get that album done because we was getting the albums done.
Starting point is 00:52:32 I was not getting an album out in 60 days. Why do you think it didn't work between X and Hole, Siobhan? Oh, egos. That's it. It's simple. Egos. I don't want to say the other word, but whose piece is bigger than whose, but it's basically egos. Which is crazy. They were good with each other. They were good with each other. They were good, which was crazy. Was it a mutual decision to leave Def Jam? Like it was a whole Rough Riders thing? Like, yo, you know what? X, we all going to be out. Yeah, we all mutually just rode, you know, it was just, you know, it was time, you know, because that's what I told you
Starting point is 00:53:09 when the whole industry started downsizing and stuff like that. Things turned left. You know, Jay-Z and them was good with Def Jam. They was able to negotiate their deal because when they negotiated their first deal, they, you know, Def Jam has some type of ownership in Rockefeller. That's
Starting point is 00:53:26 where Rockefeller was getting, um, a little bit extra love maybe because they had, you know, Def Jam has special interests in, in the, in that rock brand. But, you know, we, we seen, we felt a little bit of favoritism going on. That's why we was expanding and moving on and doing other things outside of just being in one house. We did our time there and we moved on to the next. The good part about Def Jam, and I got to give it to Hove,
Starting point is 00:53:56 is that X was in debt over there. He probably owed about $12 million. He had owed him a lot of money over there at Def Jam through the course of years. And me and Ho got together, and I went up to the office,
Starting point is 00:54:12 and I asked him, I said, can you do me a favor and let us sign X. When we went to sign, I think we took him to a, where we took him at, why? When we took him from Def Jam. Sony, right? Yeah, Sony, yeah. Yeah, we took him to a... Where we took him at? Why? When we took him from... Sony, right? Yeah, Sony, yeah. Yeah, we took him with Chad over there in Sony.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Yeah, we took him over there. But he let him... He released him. He wiped out the deck clean and let him go with no money. He didn't have to pay nothing back. So, Ove did do that. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:54:40 So, I got to make sure I respect him on that because he let him go clean with nothing. He didn't have to pay nothing back. No white exec was going to do that. Ever. He did that. That was love. But the crazy thing about the Def Jam situation,
Starting point is 00:54:57 when Gleeor and Russell sold the company, you know, when you do, when they start selling companies and new ownerships and possession. And so they got this big debt over you that you don't know where this came from, because now they got all these people leaving. And now they have a new accountant financial team coming in. They're telling you, you owe, you know, X owe 12 million. This person owed 20 million. this person owe 20 million, this person owe 8 million. And so we do an audit and they really, Def Jam, y'all owe 25 million.
Starting point is 00:55:31 So now, you know, we have a situation here. So now you got to go. So now you go through all this litigation fluff and now Def Jam, most of the team that was there, they no longer there. So now you got to wait for five, six, seven years to go through them so they can get the books back and all this other craziness. So yeah, it's a lot of funny games going on with the books and the paper trail. Did y'all get your money back from Devin
Starting point is 00:55:56 that they owed y'all? We got it broken down to like $8 million, but it really has some more litigation stuff that I had to go through, so we never really got to really fulfill that whole situation, but it was, it was definitely a loophole in that whole situation. We had a lot of,
Starting point is 00:56:11 a lot of lawyer fees and counting fees back and forth for like five, six, seven years. They owed y'all 25 million. Well, it came back 25 million in the red, but then, you know, as it was breaking it down, it came down $25 million in the red. But then, you know, as it was breaking it down, it came down to like
Starting point is 00:56:27 $8 million or so. But then we never really got to pursue the finalize of the whole situation because a bunch of other stuff popped in. And my guy died and all that stuff. So it was a whole loophole there. But, um... God damn. It's like it's easier to sell a crack.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Here you go, Charlamagne. Anytime, baby. That's what we... Anytime's a little better. Listen, I know y'all got to go, man, but I really enjoyed the Rough Rider doc. It is hard to watch, though, especially BMX,
Starting point is 00:56:59 because he's still got so much trauma, man. So I just wonder how much responsibility y'all feel to make sure he really gets the help he needs? Because that brother needs healing. Well, we good. We work with X. You know, X is healing. He's doing good right now. He's out here doing his album in the West Coast. He's working with him.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Squips work with him. Bless you. We all working together. So, you know, X is X. So, you know, he's blessed. He's in God's hands. He's going to do his part. We're going to do our part. And, you know, we're blessed. He's in God's hands. He's going to do his part. We're going to do our part. And, you know, we're going to put in this work. You know, we still got more work to do.
Starting point is 00:57:33 This is just the beginning of the beginning. Well, thank you, brothers and Ms. Vaughn, for joining us this morning. We definitely appreciate you. Thank you very much for having us. Thank you for having us. Thank you. We appreciate y'all. Y'all be safe. Bye, guys.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Bye-bye. It's about time. What's going on? Rumor Report. Rumor Report. This is the Rumor Report. Talk to them. With Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Well, Billboard Magazine put the versus effect on their cover, and they included Alicia Keys, John Legend, Babyface, DMX. You can see Snoop Dogg, Kirk Franklin, Swizz Beatz and Timbaland, of course, front and center, Erykah Badu, Jill Scott, but Beanie Man and Bounty Killer were not included. I always tell you that was my favorite Versus battle out of all of them.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Now, Swizz posted the cover on his page and he said to our fans, while we are honored that Versus made the cover of Billboard, this would not have been possible without Beanie Man and Bounty Killer, who set a big tone for our audience and represented for Jamaica. Thank you, Billboard, for the acknowledgement. But we feel this version of the cover best represents the Versus effect. Now, Beanie Man posted on his pages and slammed Billboard Magazine for excluding him and Bounty Killer from the cover art. He said, I guess Billboard is really that guy. If you recall during the versus battle, he was like,
Starting point is 00:58:51 don't be that guy when the cops came and tried to shut it down. He said, when will Dancehall get its recognition? No matter how the impact, no matter the hard work, no matter how powerful the music is, they still try it every time and get a chance, a time. Now, man, fix up. Don't try undermine a thing dance hall he also said big ups was in 10 but this is what our genre face everybody
Starting point is 00:59:11 folk i don't know what fw oh fwd and take peace and build up them thing and then do everything to undermine the genre dance hall where they got it from now another person who was not happy was jonte austin because he was also not included and he also listed some other people that were not included on this cover as well. Jonte Austin said that the Dream wasn't included, neither was Neo or Sean Garrett
Starting point is 00:59:35 and neither was he. So here is what Swizz Beatz had to say about the cover. We didn't even get to see that joint till today. I didn't know what the cover was going to look like. I seen the cover and was happy and was bugging at the same time. I'm like, we got to, you know. I know. That's what I was like.
Starting point is 00:59:50 I smiled and I frowned. Nah, it's all good. That's why we photoshopped ourselves out and put Bounty and Beanie in there because, you know, they did something that was super amazing. So they're the reason why people are in the room together now. I understand why all those artists are upset. Beanie Man and Bounty Killer should have definitely been on the cover. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:00:12 But let's be clear. Let's be clear, though. Everybody that's in a versus is not going to make a cover. Like, the cover story is probably going to be the biggest artist or maybe the biggest versus. So you would have to put Beanie Man, Bounty Killer on there. You'd have to put Erykah Badu, Jill Scott. Then you'd have to throw some star power on there like
Starting point is 01:00:27 Snoop, DMX. Everybody wasn't going to make the cover. That's just not how covers work. Yeah, I agree with you. They fake the biggest artists. In particular though, Beanie Man and Bounty Killer was a big one, like you said. They should have been on there. And it also was the first time that they had two artists in one room. They had crazy energy.
Starting point is 01:00:44 It was amazing and they represented so i can understand that and i can understand also how dancehall gets continually disrespected here even though they've contributed so much and so i think man and bounty should have been on there that was those are the two that that missed that cover the rest of them like charlamagne said they gonna pick the biggest artist yeah now the journalist who wrote the verses story for billboard also talks about her role in the article because people were coming at her like she's the one that chose the cover. Now her name is Naima Cochran. She said, I wasn't going to respond, but this is like the 10th time somebody
Starting point is 01:01:13 has accused me of disrespecting or omitting Beanie and Bounty and nah, that's what we're not going to do. So she said, and to one person in particular, she responded. So Ingrid Riley, I would encourage you to direct your ire towards whomever actually deserves it. It's not me. Yes, I wrote it and they are prominently included in it. I wrote about them. No, I didn't have any input in the cover, nor did I see it. Writers rarely, if ever do. I saw it today when the significance of Soundclass and them being a turning point of Versus are in my story. So just to clarify, she wrote the article, but she's not the person who did the cover artwork. Yeah, that's not her fault. She don't pick the cover. By the way, the cover is all about who's going to sell these magazines.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Correct. Nothing more, nothing less. Mm-hmm. All right, so that's just to clear all of that up because I saw that was happening yesterday on social media. CeeLo Green, in the meantime, is talking about women in the rap game. And he singles out Cardi B, Megan Thee Stallion and Nicki Minaj. He did an interview that was published in Fire Out magazine on Sunday, and he talked about artists sexualizing themselves in their music.
Starting point is 01:02:20 He said a lot of music today is very unfortunate and disappointing on a personal and moral level. There was once a time when we were savvy enough to code certain things. And it was interesting because after this happened, a lot of people brought up these allegations. He had rape allegations against him previously. They also brought up his song Closet Freak. Here's a snippet of that. Now, When people haven't been where you've been, they can say you're still going too far. When you put your gun and pull over, something in the back of the car. Now, CeeLo goes on to say we could express to those it was meant for with the style of language we use, but now music is shameless. It is sheer savagery.
Starting point is 01:03:15 He then name drops Cardi and Megan, and he says attention is also a drug and competition is around Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion. They are all more or less doing similar salacious gesturing to kind of get into position. I get it. The independent women and being in control of the divine femininity and sexual expression. I get it all. And then he said it comes at what cost? I don't understand the outrage over WAP. Me neither.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Like why WAP? Like in America, sex sells. Why are people acting like WAP is the song that's going to make women become hoarse? Why is WAP the song that's going to make women become hoarse why is WAP the song that's going to lead my daughter to a life of sex work like why is this record in particular hitting such a nerve like I'm really confused about this and CeeLo is from an era
Starting point is 01:03:54 of Lil Kim and Foxy Brown Freak Fest and Jackie O and Kaya and listen don't get me wrong when you know better you do better but why are you upset that these two 20 something year old young girls are expressing themselves in that way like i'm really confused like like like why is wop the song that has everybody so upset i'm i'm really trying but he also talks about nikki minaj and he talks about her platform and influence he said her position as
Starting point is 01:04:20 a role model is ineffective he said you have the heads of state like nikki Minaj or someone who is up there in accolades, success, visibility, a platform to influence. Nicki could be effective in so many other constructive ways, but it feels desperate. Wow. I mean, I would say Nicki is constructive, though. Nicki empowers a lot of women to be bosses and, you know, take control of their business.
Starting point is 01:04:40 I mean, just because she dresses a certain way when she's performing or shakes her ass when she's performing doesn't mean she's any less of a boss. I just don't understand why everybody's so upset. Like, does everybody hear the music that's been coming out in the last decade, the last 20 years? Yeah, all of the celebration of the drug culture, the celebration of the gang culture, the violence, all of this. I'm so confused. Like, why is this the record everybody chooses to have a moral stand on? Like, I'm confused. I'm so confused. Like, why is this the record everybody chooses to have a moral stand on? Like, I'm confused.
Starting point is 01:05:06 I'm lost. For some reason, women, and in particular black women talking about sex, people try to shame that all the time. And I'm all for women owning their sexuality. Putting out whatever images and whatever words you want to put out is definitely true. I don't know. Because, I mean, like I'm saying, like, why this record? Like, City Girl's been around for a while now. Cardi's been around. Nicki's definitely true. I don't know. Because, I mean, like I'm saying, like, why this record? Like, City Girl's been around for a while now.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Cardi's been around. Nicki's been around. Meg Thee Stallion just got here. But why now? People have had problems with that also. People have had problems with Meg and Thee Stallion twerking. They've had problems with City Girls and their lyrics. Like, I mean, it's just been an issue, an ongoing thing.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Don't make no sense. People always talk about, why do women always talk about these things? Like, we're not multifaceted and multidimensional. And like we can't talk about sex because everyone does it. It's not just in hip hop. It's not just the women. The only thing that offends me is men with d***.
Starting point is 01:05:56 I want men with d*** to do some push-ups. Shut up, man. Sometimes there's nothing they can do about that. That's what I'm saying. You know, there's skinny guys that have some too. Envy. Now my breasts are gone. I don't know what y'all talking about, baby.
Starting point is 01:06:12 It's almost shirt on weather for me, baby. You see me do them 60 miles this weekend, baby. I see you looking at me. Stop looking at me through the phone. Make me uncomfortable. Go ahead, you. All right. Envy got high mileage.
Starting point is 01:06:24 All right. Well, I'm answering you. And that is your me uncomfortable. Go ahead, you. All right. And we got high mileage. All right. Well, I'm answering the question. And that is your rumor report. Thank you, Miss Yee. I just want to let y'all know my ride game is crazy out right now. Okay. We like the way you ride it. We like the way you ride it.
Starting point is 01:06:35 I heard. We know how you got all them cars. I'm talking about my bike, you asses. Now, you got to use what you got to get what you want, Envy. Envy over there throwing a bike. Throwing a bike. Yo, who you giving your donkey to, man? We need Steve Hartwell from Smash Mouth to come to the front of the congregation.
Starting point is 01:06:54 We'd like to have a word with him. Y'all remember that old school group, Smash Mouth, don't you? Smash Mouth. Hey, now, you're an all-star. I'm a believer. Okay, all right. We'll talk about it. That happens next. It's the Breakfast Club, good morning
Starting point is 01:07:06 Don't be a donkey, because right now you want some real donkeys It's time for Donkey of the Day So if you ever feel I need to be a donkey, man Hit me with the heel Did she get donkey in the name please, Deli? Absolutely I have become Donkey of the Day It's the Breakfast Club, bitches
Starting point is 01:07:24 You're a donkey Donkey of the Day for Tuesday, Breakfast Club, bitches. You're a donkey. Donkey of the Day for Tuesday, August 11th goes to Steve Harwell. Do you know who Steve Harwell is? Well, he's the lead singer for the rock band Smash Mouth. Y'all know who Smash Mouth is, don't you? You never heard Smash Mouth? Let's play a couple tunes to refresh y'all memory.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Hey now, you're an all-star. Get your game on, go play. Hey now, you're a rock star. Get the show on, get paid. They've been around for a long time since 1994 to be exact and clearly they don't give a damn about people because they made an appearance at the sturgis motorcycle rally where it's being reported by tmz that hundreds maybe thousands of bikers pulled up to what will probably end up being a night of beer choppers and kofi now it's very important to note that 60 of sturgis residents were against the motorcycle has pulled up to what will probably end up being a night of beer, choppers, and COVID. Now, it's very important to note that 60% of Sturgis residents were against the motorcycle
Starting point is 01:08:09 rally. That brings in thousands of people, but the city approved it because these people will always care about profits over you. When will we learn this? I keep trying to tell y'all, it's economy over empathy, and I guarantee the folks making these decisions don't leave the house. The folks making these decisions won't pull up and kick it with you at these covid friendly functions. But they don't care if you go. If you think I'm lying. Explain this. OK. South Dakota local city council asked residents if they thought they should hold the event. Not just residents, but businesses, state health officials, as well as local health officials. And over 60 percent, 60 percent of residents said, hell no, state health officials, as well as local health officials. And over 60%,
Starting point is 01:08:45 60% of residents said, hell no, get it. And they did it anyway. You know why? Because Sturgis has a population of 7,000 people, but this motorcycle rally usually brings in crowds of about a half a million over 10 days. They got drag races, concerts, contests, all types of stuff. There's no way the city of Sturgis was going to miss out on all that paper. OK, for the white people listening, paper means money, moolah, skrilla, that paper that got slave slave owners on it. That's why Sturgis had that rally. OK, now city manager Daniel Ainsley is saying they still had it because they kept hearing from people saying Corona doesn't matter. They are coming to Sturgis anyway. We've been locked up for months and months.
Starting point is 01:09:27 We coming out. So the city council ultimately decided that it was really vital for the community to be prepared for the additional people. That's all you want to be prepared for. Okay. Okay. How about city of Sturgis cancel the event altogether? So they have no place to come.
Starting point is 01:09:43 If it's no event, where would they go? Have you ever heard the saying, if you build it, they will come? Okay, this is what you do. If you build it, they will come. If you don't build it, they won't come. Simple. What I don't understand is how come some leadership in America doesn't actually lead? What's the point of being city manager on city council, a local or state health official, if you're only going to contradict all the science that's out there that tells us social distancing is the way to stop the spread of coronavirus, if keeping people apart is what can stop the transmission of COVID-19, then why would you hold a motorcycle rally for thousands of people? Don't give me that,
Starting point is 01:10:20 oh, the people have been locked up for months and they were coming anyway. Excuse. This is about the money that city made. And we all know it. They don't care about you. They care about money. And if you're a business owner or resident of Sturgis who wanted this event to happen, shame on you. You don't care about your health or the health of other people. You don't care about the well-being of others. You care about just having a good time and you care about getting that bread and you should be ashamed of yourselves okay well they had the right entertainment because steve harwell of smash mouth while performing at this event had this to say i've been going crazy you know and now we're over together tonight and we're being human once again oh if you couldn't make that out he he said, we're all here together tonight.
Starting point is 01:11:06 F that, Kovic. Steve, what happened to being a believer? I'm most certainly a believer. And even if I wasn't, I'm not going to use my platform to push my beliefs on a crowd of thousands who may not know any better. Because even if you're not a COVID believer, you can't deny it's something out there. So for your safety, and more importantly, the safety of the people that came to see you, okay? Could you tell them to put their mask on? Could you tell them to at least attempt to social distance the best way they can with thousands of people out there? But to say, I've been going crazy, you know, and now we're all here together tonight and we're being
Starting point is 01:11:45 human once again. F that COVID. Those are famous last words, my guy. All right. We have seen COVID get people to F out of here after uttering those words. So in the next couple of weeks, if you see Steve Harwell on social media asking for prayers because he's sick, are you wrong for keeping your prayer hand emojis to yourself? Is God wrong for seeing Steve Harwell calling and hitting decline? I'm just saying, Steve Harwell, you have to be more responsible. You saying F that COVID could be the reason people took their mask off and made it easier to spread that COVID. But I really can't even be mad at Steve because when we reached out to comment about this situation, he had this to say.
Starting point is 01:12:25 I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed. Well, at least he's honest. Please let Remy Ma give Steve Harwell the biggest hee-haw. Hee-haw, hee-haw. You stupid motherfucker. You dumb. All right. Thank you for that donkey of the day. Yes, indeed. All right. Now, Charlemagne, are you still Secretary of Defense for Kanye or what's going on with that role? Hey, shut up, man. All right. Now, Charlemagne, are you still Secretary of Defense for Kanye? Or what's going on with that role? Hey, shut up, man. We got bigger fish to fry, OK? Can we talk about the fact that Joe Biden should be choosing his running mate at any
Starting point is 01:12:56 moment, even though I think that he's already chosen her? And a lot of people are putting pressure on him, demanding that he picks a black woman, because last week, out of all the sisters, he's been saying he wants to be on the ticket with him. Reports came out that he met with Gretchen Whitmer, governor of Michigan, a white woman about the VP position in person in Delaware. You haven't heard any stories of him meeting face to face with any of the sisters. OK, you just heard that he's been meeting with them remotely, but he actually met with Gretchen Whitmer face to face with any of the sisters okay you just heard that he's been meeting with them remotely but he actually met with gretchen whitmer face to face so that prompted uh 700 black women to write a letter to biden to speak out against the blatant disrespect black women have received during this process and so us black men also decided to stand with our sisters and we wrote a letter uh essentially saying the same and i have to salute Virgie Rollins, who's the DNC of the Black Caucus
Starting point is 01:13:46 in Michigan. She said Joe Biden better pick a black woman because if he picks Gretchen, he'll lose Michigan. And Joan Venacci, who writes for the Boston Globe, she's a white woman. She wrote an article that said, how many insults are black voters supposed to take from Joe Biden? At this point, wouldn't a failure to select the black woman as his running mate be the ultimate insult all right so what is the question what are we asking i want to know if the people uh feel like it's mandatory that joe biden picks a black woman vp i think it's uh i think it's mandatory all right, let's open up these phone lines. Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. Do you think it's mandatory that Joe Biden picks a black woman to be his vice president? All right. We'll talk about it when we come back. Don't move.
Starting point is 01:14:33 It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Call eight hundred five eight five one oh five one to join into the discussion with the Breakfast Club. Talk about it. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. discussion with The Breakfast Club. Let's talk about it. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you just joined us, we were talking about Joe Biden. I asked Charlamagne, I just wanted to make sure before we do this topic, you are no longer Kanye West's Secretary of Defense, correct? Yo, shut up, man.
Starting point is 01:15:00 Listen, y'all keep playing, okay? I keep telling y'all, stop playing with that man. But no, what we're really discussing is Joe Biden and who he's going to pick as a running mate. I'm sure he's probably already made his decision, maybe. But what happened last week was out of all of the sisters he's been saying he wants to be on the ticket, reports came out that he met with Gretchen Whitmer,
Starting point is 01:15:23 governor of Michigan, about the VP position face to face. You haven't heard any stories of him meeting face to face with any of the sisters. All you've seen on the black women was bad press. So last week, over 700 black women wrote a letter to Biden to speak out against the blatant disrespect black women received during this process. So us as black men decided to stand with them. And we wrote our own letter that came out yesterday.
Starting point is 01:15:47 A lot of different people wrote letters, though. I saw African-American activists in Michigan and the DNC chair of the Black Caucus, Virgie Rowlands in Michigan. They wrote a letter and they said, Joe Biden better pick a black woman. If he picks Gretchen Whitmer, he'll lose Michigan. I saw Joan Venacci, who writes for the Boston Globe.
Starting point is 01:16:06 She's a white woman. She said, how many insults a black voter is supposed to take from Joe Biden? At this point, wouldn't a failure to select a black woman as his running mate be the ultimate insult? And I agree with each and every one of them. You know, I've been screaming that he has to have a black woman VP for months now. Now, let me ask you a question. You know, every time we talk about Joe Biden, they say, well, why are y'all talking about him? Why are y'all even saying anything? What you going to do? You're going to vote for Trump or you're going to vote for him?
Starting point is 01:16:29 Well, it's simple. The reason we're having these discussions is because we clearly would like for him to win. And when we talk about him needing a black woman VP, it's not a matter of identity politics. It's math. Joe Biden needs strong black voter turnout in swing states like Florida, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania to win. Period. If you look in all those states, a drop off of black voters, a drop off of black voter turnout happened in 2016 and 08 and 012. And Barack Obama was on the ticket. Black people pulled up. And in 2016, they did not. 4.4 million people who voted in 2012 stayed home in 2016, and a third of them were black. So if he does not have a black running mate, right, if he's not picking a black woman as vice president, what does that mean, Charlamagne? So what are you going to do? Let's say he says,
Starting point is 01:17:14 no, I'm not going to do it. So what happens then? Well, it's not about what I'm going to do. Listen, it's not about what I'm going to do. Listen, it's not about what I'm going to do, because I'm going to do my civic duty and vote regardless. But what it's going to be about is those 4.4 million people who voted in 2012 and stayed home in 2016. Do you think that is actual enthusiasm around Joe Biden? Do you think people are really energized by Joe Biden's campaign? When you're out here in these streets talking to brothers and sisters, Envy, do you feel that? No, not at all.
Starting point is 01:17:43 Okay, exactly. Not at all. OK, exactly. So so so fear of Donald Trump is not going is not enough to just make people say, you know what? Yeah, I'm a runner. I'm a rush out in droves on November 3rd and vote. So, yes, he needs to put a black woman on his ticket. I agree with you. What do you think? Thank you. I was going to say that. I think that, yes, we need to spark some enthusiasm for people to go out and vote. I also look at Gretchen Whitmer. I don't think she'd be a good candidate.
Starting point is 01:18:07 I see everything that's happened in Flint. They still haven't solved the water crisis problem. The education system in Detroit, they're billing the students here. So I don't feel like she would be a good choice anyway. But I also feel like we want to be enthusiastic about who we vote for, and we want people to be energized. Of course, I'm registered to vote. I'm definitely going to vote. I encourage everyone to do it. But you think about, you know, people who don't feel like Joe Biden is their top pick in any way. The vice presidential
Starting point is 01:18:33 pick is what's going to really energize them. And so I think it's really important that we choose somebody like Kamala Harris or Susan Rice, and they are supposed to be announcing that sometime this week. And so I guess we'll see then. But part of being involved in politics is using your voice to get what you want. So I think it's great for people to be very vocal about what it is that they want. It's not that you elect these politicians and just vote without demanding things. So it's important to demand what it is that you want so that you can feel enthusiastic about who you're voting for. It's not just enough to say we don't want Donald Trump there.
Starting point is 01:19:05 I want to be enthusiastic about who will be in office. And that's what we're doing now. And a lot of black people don't trust that white man, Joe Biden. But I will trust his running mate, especially if it's Senator Kamala Harris. And black women don't just vote. They mobilize. They're going to have me and you, your mama, and your cousin, too, out there in them streets campaigning to make history.
Starting point is 01:19:26 How much disrespect can somebody take before they say, you know what, I don't want to be your running mate. I don't want to be your vice president. Because that's what's getting to the point where it seems like... Nah, they're not going to do that. You don't think so? Nah, because they're public service. You take these face-to-face meetings with... I don't know. Now that was disrespect.
Starting point is 01:19:41 That's what I'm saying. And that's what made those black women write that letter. But that's what I'm saying. Because Gretchen Whitmer actually went to Delaware. Right. And then you talked to me through Zoom. And then I'm supposed to just say, okay, yeah, you can pick me as a, I don't know. Let's go to the phone lines. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 01:19:58 This is Terry. Terry, what's going on? What do you think about Joe Biden? If you don't pick a black woman, I'm voting independent. I don't even care who I vote for. We're independent. I'm serious. See?
Starting point is 01:20:10 All right. That's how people feel. Hello. Who's this? Tamika. Tamika. We're talking Joe Biden. What are your feelings if he picks or doesn't pick a black woman?
Starting point is 01:20:22 I don't think it should be an end all. And I think people need to stop saying that for the simple fact that he's going to start splitting the vote and the black people are not going to go out and vote. Black women are going to be that mad. And at this point, I'm going to tell you the truth, Joe Biden can sit on the corner smoking weed. I'm going to vote for him.
Starting point is 01:20:38 I'm not mad at you. But you can still be vocal about what you would like him to do. Right. I would love for him to choose a black woman. You know, I mean, that's what I'm saying. But if he doesn't, you're voting for him regardless. Tamika, Tamika, you got to tell the universe what you want. You can't send the universe mixed signals.
Starting point is 01:20:56 That's why you're single now, because you say you don't want no man, but then you're saying you want a man. You got to say what you want, Tamika. I've been married for 28 years, but I've been married for 30. You tell him, Tamika. You've been had a man. That was a bad example. If Joe Biden is smoking crack on the corner,
Starting point is 01:21:11 you voting for Joe. All right, thank you. Thank you. Have a good day. Let's be clear. Some people are so energized enough that they just want to get Trump out of there and we'll vote that way regardless. There are some people who will do that. That's not going to be clear. Some people are so energized enough that they just want to get Trump out of there and we'll vote that way regardless.
Starting point is 01:21:27 There are some people who will do that. But I think that you have to energize everybody and let everyone be enthusiastic. Again, people need to come out and vote in droves if you want to win. You know how you know that's not going to be enough? Donald Trump is your president now. And people felt like that in 2016. They were like, we got to get him out. We can't have this man in the White House.
Starting point is 01:21:45 And it didn't happen. Okay? It's not enough. 585-1051. We'll take some more of your calls. This is The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Call 800-585-1051 to join in to the discussion with The Breakfast Club. Talk about it. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
Starting point is 01:22:07 We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you just join us, we're talking about Joe Biden. He hasn't picked a running mate yet. So we're asking, what if he doesn't pick a black woman? Does he need to pick a black woman? That is the question. Yes, I'm sure he has already picked her, though. But, you know, red flags were raised last week when Gretchen Whitmer, governor of Michigan, actually flew to Delaware and met with Joe Biden face to face.
Starting point is 01:22:31 Now, I also did hear that Senator Kamala Harris flew to Delaware as well and met with him face to face. But the problem I have is no press came out about that meeting, but all the press came out about Gretchen. All you see when it comes to the black woman. He did meet with a black woman. He did meet with Kamala Harris face to face. Yes, but you didn't see that. It's supposed to be very secretive about what they're doing, so I don't know why certain things are coming out and certain things aren't. They're acting like it is.
Starting point is 01:22:59 All these meetings are secret. And it's positive press for Gretchen. Negative press for all the black women candidates. You know what I'm saying? Let's go to the phone lines. Hello, who's this? This is Margaret from Niagara Falls. Hey, what's up, brother?
Starting point is 01:23:11 We're talking Joe Biden. What's your thoughts? My thoughts is Joe Biden is already going to lose, for one. I understand y'all think Trump's going to win, but he's not. I mean, he's going to lose, but he's not. Joe Biden don't need to attach no woman to that campaign because that campaign is a complete mess. And once you start losing in politics, you're going to start looking like you're chasing a particular position.
Starting point is 01:23:30 And that looks bad overall. So, no, I don't think Joe Biden should. I mean, Joe Biden should. I don't think Joe Biden should either. Why do you think Joe Biden is going to lose, King? I think he's going to lose because he hasn't shown any progress. Just look at him. Has he shown you anything that tells you that he's going to move forward in regards to the Democrat Party?
Starting point is 01:23:47 By them even fucking Joe Biden, they showed us that they don't want to move forward in a progressive manner that they claim that they want to be in. Well, that's why I think, you know, his vice presidential pick is very important. And if I'm Joe Biden, I would introduce my whole cabinet this week, not just my VP. I would introduce what my whole shadow cabinet look like. And, you know, if there's some progressives on there, if it's some diversity on there, if it's some people that are forward thinking, you got to vote for that. Yeah, I would think before the 17th,
Starting point is 01:24:13 he's going to reveal a lot. So we'll know who the VP is. We'll know who is going to be in his cabinet. I think you want to do all of that before the convention. All right. Well, what's the moral of the story, guys? The moral of the story is Joe Biden needs a black woman on his ticket to win. And that's not a matter of identity politics. It's simple math. OK, he needs a strong black voter turnout in swing states like
Starting point is 01:24:34 Florida, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. And that's it. Nothing more to talk about. Four point four million people who voted in 2012 stayed home in 2016. A third of them were black. So if you want black people to pull up in droves like you did in 08 and 2012, you got to put a black woman on your ticket. And if you're asking me, I think that that black woman should be Senator Kamala Harris
Starting point is 01:24:53 because that will energize a Negro like me to get up and say, you know what? Not only am I going to vote, I'm going to encourage other people to go out there and vote. I just want to be excited and happy to vote. I want to dance away
Starting point is 01:25:09 from the poll. Like, yes. And then just the disrespect that, you know, they've shown these black woman candidates during this vetting process. It's like they're not even being vetted. They're being scrutinized. Like for you to say that Senator Kamala Harris is overly ambitious.
Starting point is 01:25:25 She has too much ambition. She's not going to be loyal because she's going to be too focused on being the president. You didn't say that about Joe Biden. This is Joe Biden's third time running for president. What if Barack felt like that when Joe Biden ran against him in 08 and didn't choose him as the VP? You know what I mean? That's just certain press outlets saying that. That's not coming from Joe Biden's camp.
Starting point is 01:25:43 Yes, it did. That came from Joe Biden's, the dude on his vetting team, on his VP vetting team. His name was... Oh, I didn't know that. I thought that was... Yes. He's saying he didn't say that, but the press is saying that they got that from him. Well, Joe Biden, if you know what I know, you need to pick a black woman.
Starting point is 01:26:00 Simple as that. Send it to Kamala Harris. Let's go. If you know what I know. Let's go, baby. All right. Yeah, we got room. Well, since we're talking about voting and again, I want to tell you guys to make sure you are registered to vote.
Starting point is 01:26:10 We've been talking about how important that is. And this morning we're discussing it as well. So I'm going to give you guys some information on where you can vote and how you can make sure that you are registered. All you have to do is make sure you text Levi's to 788-683. You can get registered, find out key dates, and voting how-tos from Rock the Vote. And we're talking all about voting, so let's talk about a potential candidate who could
Starting point is 01:26:34 face election fraud investigation. Alright, we'll get into that next. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Let, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Kanye West.
Starting point is 01:26:51 It's time. She's spilling the tea. This is the rumor report with Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. Yes, so Kanye West could face election fraud investigation. And according to reports, he has been removed from the ballot in Illinois, as we know. And they're saying that there could be an investigation into his campaign. They said more than half of the signatures submitted were invalid. He had about 3,100 signatures.
Starting point is 01:27:18 And they said no word on what names were not valid. But some names could include illegible names, non-registered voters, or people providing fake names or addresses. And I saw some of the forms that they submitted with their signatures, and some of them looked exactly the same. The handwriting looked exactly the same. This is foolish that we're still talking about a fake Kanye West presidential campaign. Like, none of this will even be a story if no media outlets reported on it. Like, if we're saying that Kanye is a distraction and he's only doing this for attention, why are we giving it to him? Like what part of the problem, whether we realize it or not. D.L. Hughley gave it some
Starting point is 01:27:53 attention too. And here's what he had to say about Kanye West. It's no doubt that he suffers from some level of mental illness, but it isn't why he's misogynistic. It isn't why he's disrespectful to our history. And then he's not so ill that he is trying to be a disruptor in the political form. He takes $5 million in the PPP payments. So he seems to be conveniently ill when it serves his purposes. And I think he, to me, Kanye West is exactly like Donald Trump, so it would make sense that they're attracted to one another. I don't think Kanye West is mentally ill when convenient
Starting point is 01:28:33 because Kanye will be the first to tell you that he's not crazy. I think the media labels him mentally ill when convenient. It seems to me whenever Kanye does something people don't agree with, he gets tagged mentally ill. But the truth is that's the same old Kanye West we've been seeing our whole lives. He's not doing nothing different except playing for a side we not on. What's crazy, think about it. If you're a Trump supporter who's always been a fan of Kanye, that's just Kanye being Kanye.
Starting point is 01:28:57 But if you're not a Trump supporter, you're looking at Kanye like, man, this dude tripping. But we're the ones who label him mentally ill. And, you know, he said there is no doubt that he suffers from some level of mental illness. And Kim Kardashian has said that he's mentally ill also, right? And so he said that a few years ago. But now but now in this moment, he's telling y'all, I'm not crazy. Y'all upset at me because I'm crying over my thought of potentially aborting my daughter. He's like, that don't make me crazy.
Starting point is 01:29:24 He said that. What about his comments about Harriet Tubman and being disrespectful to her? That don't make him crazy. That just make him stupid. We're not even using the word crazy. We're not using the word crazy. Well, that don't make him mentally ill. That just makes him stupid.
Starting point is 01:29:37 That makes him a bad communicator. And I don't mean he's mentally ill. I do think Kanye is mentally ill. Maybe not from the things that you just said that he said, but I do think he has some mental problems. And Kim Kardashian even put up that post where she was discussing, you know, that he was bipolar and that he's
Starting point is 01:29:52 been having episodes. And a lot of things happen behind the scenes that she doesn't address publicly. And Kanye pushed back on all of that. All I'm simply saying is if the man is mentally ill, he's mentally ill. And he's not doing it for a matter of convenience, right? Clearly he's mentally ill. But I'm saying we tag him mentally ill all the time just because
Starting point is 01:30:07 he says something we don't agree with. If that is all it takes to be mentally ill, somebody saying something you don't agree with, there's a lot of mentally ill people out here. I don't think that's the only reason that people say that. But alright, now Nas is set to release new music with Hit Boy and that's going to
Starting point is 01:30:23 be coming out next week. So people are really excited for that. He said he's been trying to do this for years, and he put up a clip on social media. He said, we've got the time. We've got that alignment. So whatever it is, it's coming on August 21st. So get ready for that. Now, other things that are coming up, Mike Tyson's comeback fight with Roy Jones Jr.
Starting point is 01:30:45 That was actually postponed to November 28th. So we were hoping that was going to happen on September 12th. We did talk to Roy Jones Jr. on The Breakfast Club, but it looks like that has been postponed a few months. I'm still going to watch it. Yeah, me too. I think they needed that time. I thought that fight was too fast. I mean, these brothers still need to train, you know? All right. Tracy Morgan reveals that he split up from his wife six months ago, and he also wants his last name back. So they separated before the pandemic hit. And according to Bossip, they're saying that he filed asking for joint custody of their daughter, Maven, who's seven years old. He wants both sides to pay child support for her,
Starting point is 01:31:23 and he wants Megan to revert to her maiden name according to court documents. So her name is Megan Wallover Morgan. So he wants her to just drop the Morgan. Can you force someone to do that? I have no idea and I hope I never have to find out.
Starting point is 01:31:39 I don't know. Like once you marry somebody, can you make them revert back to their you know, give back your last name? I don't know. Like, once you marry somebody, can you make them revert back to their, you know, give back your last name? I don't know. I wouldn't want them to. I want them to keep it. And especially if they marry somebody else.
Starting point is 01:31:53 Keep your last name? That's right. If they marry somebody else, that's right. Keep it. I want you to even keep my last name if you marry somebody else. Why? Ego. All right.
Starting point is 01:32:04 Damien Lillard. He had a response for Skip Bayless. Now Skip Bayless was on Undisputed and he also tweeted out, I'm still not buying Dame time and apparently the Clippers aren't either at Undisputed. And so he told Shannon Sharp, I
Starting point is 01:32:19 will allow you to continue to stick your head in the sand about Damian Lillard, but I'm not going to. What happened on Saturday afternoon validated what I've been asking about Damian Lillard. Is he really that guy? Does he really have super in front of star in front of his name? Well, Damian Lillard responded and he said this. He got on Twitter today. He was like, I don't know if I'm buying Dame time and he's not a superstar. And I just, it made me mad because I don't care about who's a superstar and all that. What does that even mean, bro? I just saw the tweet and I basically told him, I was like, I don't believe in nothing
Starting point is 01:32:52 about you. You a clown, basically. And then I was just like, you're the same person who I had a private conversation with and he backpedaled the whole time, bro. He didn't stand on nothing that he said. I could just really make him look bad right now, but I ain't going to do that. He also tweeted, I have never been buying nothing about you, fam.
Starting point is 01:33:09 You a joke. And after our private convo full of backpedaling, you will never have my respect. And then he put a clown emoji. That clown emoji really hurts people's feelings. It does. That clown emoji. That's the best when somebody been running their mouth
Starting point is 01:33:23 and then you finally get them on the phone or you see them in person and they don't have that same energy. That is the best. When somebody been running their mouth and then you finally get them on the phone or you see them in person and they don't have that same energy, that is the best. That is why whatever I say about you on the radio or on a podcast, I will say to you. It's because of that right there. You may not like me, but you're going to respect the fact that I kept the same energy. All right. Well, I'm Angela Yee, and that's your rumor report. All right.
Starting point is 01:33:44 Thank you, Ms. Yee. Now, shout out to Revolt. We'll your rumor report. All right. Thank you, Miss Yee. Now, shout out to Revolt. We'll see you tomorrow. Everybody else, the People's Choice Mix is up next. Get your request in. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. E.J. Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, shout out to the Dean family for joining us this morning. D.Y. and Siobhan, the
Starting point is 01:34:00 founders of Rough Riders. Yes. Yes. A Rough Riders documentary starts tomorrow at 10 p.m., I believe. Right after the, I think, the finale of the Master P. Yes. The documentary starts tomorrow at 10 p.m., I believe. I think the finale of the Master P doc. I want to salute to iHeart, too. iHeart is launching a Get Out the Vote campaign.
Starting point is 01:34:16 They're putting celebrities, influences, and real people like our listeners on all the airwaves across 850 stations and podcasts from now until Election Day, November 3rd, to discuss the issues that matter most to them in this election year. So if Joe Biden and his campaign are smart, they will be announcing Senator Kamala Harris as his VP this week to add some much needed energy to his campaign.
Starting point is 01:34:40 And he needs to introduce his cabinet, too. OK, we need to see what the rest of the Avengers look like since we're not that enthused about Hawkeye. Okay, but if I heart is doing initiatives like this, it will be good, you know, to hear our listeners and celebrities and influencers actually have something to be excited about when discussing the upcoming election. So yeah, Joe Biden, do the right thing in that. Send it to Kamala Harris to get your ticket
Starting point is 01:35:03 and salute to I heart for launching the Get Out the Vote campaign. All right. Now, when we come back, we got the positive notes. Don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody.
Starting point is 01:35:12 It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, Charlamagne, you got a positive note? I do, actually. My positive note for the day is this. Who you are inside is what helps you make and do everything in life. Do you know who said that? Mr. Rogers. Breakfast's called, bitches.
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