The Breakfast Club - This Weeks Best Of The Breakfast Club

Episode Date: June 26, 2022

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Starting point is 00:03:02 and most shared podcasts of the week. From the 250,000 podcasts available in the free iHeartRadio app. Find your next favorite podcast on iHeartRadio. This week, it's The Breakfast Club 30. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Never met her before. She's an actress. She's an author. She's a mom. Ladies and gentlemen, Gia. She's a wife. She's an author. She's a mom. Ladies and gentlemen, She's a wife. And my wife. Yes, Gia.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Hello. Welcome. Gia what? That's just one name? She's like Madonna, Beyonce, just one name? Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:03:36 How nervous are you, sir? Seriously. I know, he's been acting real weird all morning. I'm fine. Well, you know what? Are you nervous, fool?
Starting point is 00:03:42 No. You guys have a book out, Real Life, Real Love, Life Lessons on Joy, Pain, and the Magic that Holds Us Together. And I've been dying I'm fine well you know what you guys have a book out real life real love life lessons on joy pain and the magic that holds us together and I've been dying to ask you this question
Starting point is 00:03:50 Gia in person oh boy in this room how do you feel about Charlamagne and Envy flirting with each other every day um
Starting point is 00:03:57 it kind of turns me on what we didn't expect that answer. Now I'm nervous. What the hell? I have that effect on people. Okay. Explain.
Starting point is 00:04:14 No, I mean, I think it's a little strange. But I'm amused by it. It's just brotherly love. That's all. I'm amused by it. Does anything go too far ever? No, it's all good fun and entertainment That's all it is
Starting point is 00:04:25 I don't mind it So you didn't mind When he gave me the ass? First of all Context please Or actually Context Everybody doesn't watch the show every day
Starting point is 00:04:34 Context please Okay Wait, can you guys soundbite that? When he gave me a mold of his ass That's right And it wasn't my ass It was a mold of a ass Yes
Starting point is 00:04:44 I thought it was a mold of your actual No,'s right. And it wasn't my ass. It was a mold of a ass. Yes. I thought it was a mold of your actual. No, no. My aint that fat. And then what about when they touch each other and stuff? That's never happened.
Starting point is 00:04:52 We don't touch each other. We don't touch each other. I've never seen them touch each other. That hasn't happened. No. You want to tell me something I need to know?
Starting point is 00:04:57 No, they like rub up, brush against each other. If they're walking out the door at some time, That's not true. We threaten to rub up against each other. We don't ever do it.
Starting point is 00:05:03 They go on the revolving door together. That happened one time by accident. Explain that. Now I need answers. It was stupid. I don't even know how that happened. It was really stupid. It was really dumb.
Starting point is 00:05:13 That had to be very intentional. No, it wasn't. I don't even know how it happened. One is in and then one makes his way in. We was in the revolving door together walking around. It was so stupid and dumb. You don't just fall into a revolving door with no one. All we did was giggle because it was so stupid.
Starting point is 00:05:21 We had to giggle our way through it. You just added insult to injury. You said, I don't know how it happened. You said, I don't know how it happened. You said, I don't know how it happened. You said, I don't know how it happened. You said, I don't know was so stupid. You don't just fall into a revolving door. All we did was giggle because it was so stupid. We had to giggle all the way through it. You just added insult to injury. You're sitting there in the one slot giggling together. They just giggled.
Starting point is 00:05:34 They just giggled right through it again. Oh, man. All right. Well, whatever, guys. Anyway, back to the matter at hand. I don't lie. Real life, real love. What is that magic that holds y'all together, you think?
Starting point is 00:05:45 How would you describe it? You know, whenever I find that people come to our house or are around us, I think they're kind of surprised at how much fun we have together. I find him to be very charming and charismatic. And one of the things that I love most about him is his boyish nature. So we really have a lot of fun together. And we always have since we first met. The first week we spent together, I thought to myself, wow, he's a lot of fun. He's like a friend, you know, and that's part of the magic. You knew that this was the person you were going to spend the rest of your life with?
Starting point is 00:06:18 After about two weeks of knowing him, yes. But he knew before y'all even spent a day together. Explain. Before we even spent a day together. I did. Explain. Before we even spent a day together? Well, when I first seen you, I mean, I wrote in the book that I thought you were beautiful and amazing. And the first time I saw you, you were actually running track. And for people that don't know, you know, track, she used to play track. That was a good one. I like that.
Starting point is 00:06:41 It was a skimpy outfit. And, you know, Gia had, you know, big double Ds. And I would basically stalk her outside and just watch her run track and watch her breast bottle. I like that word. Don't say stalk. He wasn't stalking her.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Yeah, but that's actually what he was doing. It was actually stalking. And I would see him. I would see him sitting with his friends in this bright blue Con Edison van because that's what his parents
Starting point is 00:07:06 bought him to transfer his DJ equipment from Sweet 16 to Sweet 16. That's what he was DJing at the time. I just had a Con Edison van. It was cheap back then. And I would see it parked behind the fence. I'm thinking to myself, like, yo, why is this van there every day at track practice? A van? Yo, that is crazy.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Yes. It was bright blue. He wasn't low. He was not low. And he was just sitting in the van doing And then one day he emerged. Actually, babe, do you remember one day he emerged from the van and approached me and kicked it. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:07:42 oh, so you're that weirdo. That's in the van. We were both kids. Yes. She was. And I was like, oh, so you're that weirdo. That's in the van. But y'all were both kids. Yes. She was 15. I was 16. We went to the same high school. So, Embi, you say that you knew that she was going to be your wife, like, right away.
Starting point is 00:07:55 You think it was before y'all even spoke? No, when we spoke. When you were just stalking her? When we actually, no, when we actually spoke and, you know, I found out how, you know, beautiful she was inside and outside and how smart she was and caring. And she was just that. She was the one. She was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in my life and the most precious thing.
Starting point is 00:08:10 So I was like, this is going to be my wife. I want people to get the book, but I do want to explain, how do you keep reinventing the relationship when you start that young? Now Envy's 50-something. You know what I mean? You're much, much younger.
Starting point is 00:08:24 But how do you keep reinventing? I think that that's part of the magic. We don't have to try. We don't intentionally, we do a lot of things intentionally and deliberately, but we don't intentionally reimagine the relationship
Starting point is 00:08:40 and act on that. The only thing that I would say that we're good about is keeping it sexy and making sure that that part of our relationship doesn't get too monotonous and doesn't get stale. So we have a lot of fun in that space. But we don't have to think like, God, how am I going to stop being bored of you? Or how am I going to get to a point where you don't annoy me anymore? He legitimately does not annoy me. I look forward to his phone calls every day. And we probably speak on the phone about maybe eight or nine, ten times a day.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Because he's away a lot. So he calls me on his way to the breakfast club. He calls me on his way home from the breakfast club. He calls me if something happens. He calls me incessantly. And I'm never like, oh, you again. I'm like, oh, him again. It's just that feeling that I've always had
Starting point is 00:09:27 that no matter what ups or downs we were going through, that never left me. Now, he told us a story about the cowboy outfit that he wears. He told you about that? Yeah. Wait, wait, wait. The cowboy outfit in college? With the assless chaps.
Starting point is 00:09:40 There's no assless chaps. They were. Yeah, you told us about that. Hold on, wait, Rashawnawn Did you actually tell them about that He did Like on air or in private I forgot I told y'all about that He did
Starting point is 00:09:49 Cause if it was in private This is a whole double cross Yeah He told us he dressed up as a cowboy And he had the Why you looking at me like that Hold on Cause I remember that day
Starting point is 00:09:57 Okay Cause I remember that day Cause after he told the story He goes He did And I was like what He did When we were in college Yeah We went through a stage where we were doing like a lot of...
Starting point is 00:10:09 Role playing. Role playing. Yeah. And one night I dared him to be a cowboy. So we went and got the cowboy outfit. He had like the big brown hat. And then he had like the little holsters and everything. And babe, do you remember I took pictures?
Starting point is 00:10:23 Where are those? Are they in the book? About maybe three years after, he made me physically burn them on the grill. Wow. He put them on the grill
Starting point is 00:10:33 and told me I had to light it. Yeah, they don't exist anymore. Don't you wish you still had that in me? No. But y'all talk about role play in the book.
Starting point is 00:10:38 You say he likes to put on the Roc Nation paper playing hat and he goes, what's my name? And he wants you to say Jigga? I didn't contribute to that chapter. Okay. That wasn't my work. No, I didn't contribute to that chapter okay that wasn't my work
Starting point is 00:10:46 no I didn't do that no okay so wait so he wasn't lying they were assless chaps yeah yeah he had a whole it was a whole thing
Starting point is 00:10:53 I just pulled a you on you he did not tell us that damn it to help me get my book and you will learn a slew of tactics tricks and techniques
Starting point is 00:11:02 on how to get what you want out of life okay it was a holster by the way they were holsters yeah it was a holster of tactics, tricks, and techniques on how to get what you want out of life. Okay. It was a holster, by the way. They were holsters. Yeah, it was a holster.
Starting point is 00:11:10 What were some other dress-up things you guys did? All right. It was more so me dressing up, and he was just like the recipient of that. That was a one little... And that's why it was a dare, because it was kind of supposed to be a joke, but he never really dressed up. One time I was a nurse and he was a doctor.
Starting point is 00:11:24 That was once. Did you really burn the pictures? I really did. Really? In front of him. Wow. You didn't have copy. I would have kept those just in case.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Put those in the safe. I have the negatives. I wasn't going to share that. In case anything ever goes left in our relationship, I have that. I will ruin his entire reputation. Or he might never be able to work again. It might crush him over to a new audience.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Goodness gracious. Or he might never be able to work again And might crush him over to a new audience The free iHeartRadio app Has over 250,000 podcasts to explore This is the Breakfast Club 30 Part of Sunday Night Podcast on iHeartRadio We got a special guest still in the building My wife, Gia Casey We're talking about our new book Real Life, Real Love Life Lessons on Joy, Pain, and the Magic
Starting point is 00:12:04 That Holds Us Together. You could pick it up today or you can get it on Audible or Kindle or wherever you get your books. Yee. How was it for both of you writing this book together? Some of it was fun. It was nice to be creative
Starting point is 00:12:15 and get your thoughts down on paper. It was work, but a lot of it was difficult. I'm a very open person. Rashawn, I think, had a difficult time because he had to relive a lot of the negative things that transpired in our relationship. And he can tend to be surface in some respects where you ask him a question, he gives you an answer. I'm a lot more of an in-depth person. You know, I think critically about things and when we would go over these chapters that he's assigned to write
Starting point is 00:12:48 I would ask him questions like okay you can't just answer it with a yes or a no or a simple blanket like one question would mean ten more questions to really get to the meat and I had to keep reiterating we're writing this book so that people have something tangible, a reference
Starting point is 00:13:04 point for them to make changes in their lives if necessary or to recognize that the person that you're with needs to make changes in their lives and it was a journey it was a journey but i think it was difficult yeah no for me it was difficult i had to relive a lot of the f-boy ish i put you through and you don't you forget about a lot of it because you don't have to relive it but then when you start No you forget about a lot of it. I forget nothing. I think it's men that's the point though right because it's like
Starting point is 00:13:31 we don't realize how much we do hurt our women. Is that true though? Yeah I think so. I don't think we realize how deep that That sounds like an okie doke to me. Until you actually sit down and have those you know uncomfortable conversations you don't think we... Until you actually sit down and have those, you know, uncomfortable conversations, you don't realize how much you infected your woman.
Starting point is 00:13:48 If your wife cheated on you and told you that she would have no idea how much that it stood to hurt you, would that make sense to you? Probably not. But, I mean, men don't make sense. You believe that. You believe that you're born inherently with, like, a deficit. Not a deficit, but I just don't think... Of common sense. I don't think we're thinking about that. You believe that you're born inherently with like a deficit. Not a deficit, but I just don't think...
Starting point is 00:14:06 Of common sense. I don't think we're thinking about it. You know what I mean? Like that's the sad part. It's selfish. And that's what keeps you from doing it in the future. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:14:15 Because you do not want to hurt the woman that you love. And it's so crazy because I saw that with my pops. Like I saw the pain that that caused my mom with his infidelity. So in my mind,
Starting point is 00:14:24 I was like, damn, I'm about to make the same mistake. So I think it is difficult when you got to relive it because you don't want to talk about it because you don't want to trigger you. You know, some people feel. I don't get triggered though. Damn. What? That scared me just now. I was about to call security.
Starting point is 00:14:46 No, once I got to a point and it was a process. Once I got to a point where I accepted that it was my job to move on because I decided to forgive him and because he had done
Starting point is 00:15:00 all of the work and then some to regain my trust to earn grace from me. I got to a point where I no longer wanted to punish and I didn't have that inherent need to see him suffer. Because when you hurt, and you say it all the time, hurt people hurt people. When you're hurt, you want not just people, you want the person that hurt you to hurt. And anytime that I felt any type of way, I made sure that he felt some type of way. So once I learned how to forgive and that was a process because I wasn't necessarily a forgiving person before.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Everything was very black and white to me, not very much gray. But once I learned and I understood that that's what was expected from me of God, I had to commit to that and do my best to live up to what forgiveness meant. And that's what set me free. Because when you forgive, you don't forgive to ease the burden from the other person. You forgive to ease the burden from you. That's real. What was the work you guys did together? Like you had to work on forgiveness. And when you said, okay, I'm going to, you know, have to move on from this.
Starting point is 00:16:09 But what was the work that he did that let you know, OK, he's serious. And, you know, I can finally just say I'm not getting triggered anymore. I'm going to let this go. One of the first things was I realized that he understood the impact of what had happened, what he did. He understood it. He didn't just accept it and was accountable for it, but he actually understood. He would do things that a lot of men wouldn't do. He would sit there through those eight-hour conversations locked in a room.
Starting point is 00:16:43 He answered every question that I had. And I had a lot of questions. And he answered them all truthfully. And, you know, when you ask somebody a question and you can tell by their answer, because I mean, the answers weren't pretty. They weren't things that I would have wanted to hear. He went through all of the separation, as I call it, and he did it until. Because a lot of guys, when they mess up, and I mean, a lot of them have told me I have friends that have gone through it. It's like, listen, I did it. I apologize.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I said I was never going to do it again. I mean that ish. But it's like every day I'm being punished. I'm being punished. I'm being reminded. It's like, let it go. I apologize. Like, what more do you want from me? Blood? He never took that approach with me. It was the until. Until you are good. Until you are healed. If I have to be a punching bag, I will be that. If I have to be a doormat, I will be that. I will do anything that it makes to survive this because I cannot be without you. And he proved it every single day. It was as though, and he was like this before, but it was even more so during this time.
Starting point is 00:17:52 It was as though he communicated to me that the only thing that he wanted was to make me happy. And that's pretty much how he lives his life. He lives his life every day, waking up thinking like, damn, how can I make Gia's life easier today? How can I make Gia happier today? But to answer your question it was the until. It was the indefinite and it was the willingness to do any and everything to earn what he lost back. And was there ever a question in your mind? I know there was a point when you thought no matter what I do she's never gonna take me back. Was there ever a time when you were like you cry I'm gonna come over there and hug you. I'm just letting you know.
Starting point is 00:18:25 You better hold them tears. I'ma hug the out of you from the back if you cry. In front of your wife. And then flex your pelvis. But yes, to answer your question, yes. Catch that little feel. At that point, I just, you know, I didn't know what was gonna happen,
Starting point is 00:18:40 but I was like, I have to be honest to at least get my friend back, you know? And at that point, you know, I didn't know what Gia was going to do. I thought it was a wrap. But I was like, I still wanted my friend. I still wanted somebody I can talk to. You know, I still wanted a relationship with her that we can bounce. Like, she's all I knew since I was 16.
Starting point is 00:18:58 So I still wanted my friend back. And she's Jamaican. That could have been forever beef. That could have been forever. But, you know, it's interesting that you didn't kick him out of the house. You were still polite to him. You still wanted to maintain a co-parenting friendship I feel like that hurts more when you're like we're not having sex and I might end up with somebody else one day but you know we're cool that hurts more I think sometimes than just completely like being nasty to somebody and cutting them off? Yes. Well, when I found out divorce was imminent, it was never a question. I was raised by a very
Starting point is 00:19:32 strong mother who taught me that if a man ever disrespects you to that degree, then you walk. So it didn't matter how much I loved Rashawn and how much I would have missed him. It didn't matter if I cried every night. It did not matter one iota how I felt. The only thing that was important to me was that I operated with my head and not my heart and that I did what I always said that I was going to do. So when I found out, when it was confirmed for me, and you can read the book and see the entire story, but when he confirmed it, we were in a parking lot. And when I drove away from that parking lot, it was a few days before Christmas. And his mother was at the house helping me decorate because we were hosting that year. But I walked into the house and I told her,
Starting point is 00:20:22 Christmas is canceled. And she said christmas is canceled and she said christmas is canceled and i said well i just found out that rashaun cheated on me and we're getting a divorce so there's not gonna be any christmas this year um at least i'm not hosting yo it's wild that people actually cancel christmas i thought that was just a figure of speech no no if this happened we canceling christmas you cancel christmas well in in the sense of us hosting i wasn't going to cancel it for our children but you know we didn't have to decorate for 30 people to come over and um my lovely mother-in-law hi mama um she defended her beautiful son with everything that she could because... Them bitches lying. Pretty much.
Starting point is 00:21:06 And when she said something to that effect, I said, but for the fact that he just told me that it was true. And he came home maybe 20 or 30 minutes later. And it was a whole thing, right? But I was adamant that we were getting a divorce. I contacted an attorney, paid an attorney. It was decided. But thankfully, there were a whole host of things that happened that that convinced me that God had other plans.
Starting point is 00:21:41 I Heart Radio for podcast discovery. This is the Breakfast Club 30. Here we go. Your chance to hear the biggest trending podcast each week from the free iHeart Radio app. We're here talking about our new book, Real Life, Real Love. Charlamagne? What did God say to you? You know, I wasn't raised with this deeply instilled faith where I felt as though I knew God.
Starting point is 00:22:05 And I lived differently because I didn't know God in that way. So when God revealed himself to me, and he may have tried for years, you see, but I didn't speak his language. I would have never been able to interpret God trying to reach out to me. So I really believe that this happened so that me particularly, not even Rashawn, so that I could be humbled. When God spoke, he spoke through other people. And when I found out what happened, it's funny, we were being approached for reality shows
Starting point is 00:22:39 at the time. And when he took someone's terrible advice to apologize to me on the radio and make our personal woes private yeah our personal
Starting point is 00:22:58 woes public I didn't know though I didn't know what he was going through he just being laying on the floor because you guys would I didn't know he'd was going through he'd be in here laying on the floor I didn't know what he'd be like out of I'm like yo what the fuck is your problem I didn't know what it was
Starting point is 00:23:10 so as I'm prodding him like what the hell is going on I didn't know that was coming oh so when he apologized you didn't know what he was apologizing for he would literally come in here and be like laid out on the floor in the fetal position the whole show like he would not be here with us he wouldn't be present and i just knew something was wrong so i'm like so no i was like when he gets on the air i'm gonna ask him on the air what the is his problem because i was
Starting point is 00:23:33 tired of asking him behind the scenes and so i asked him on the air i didn't know that was coming though it was a terrible idea but maybe it was the same dose of common sense that you guys are talking about men seem to talking about men men think differently yes but when it was made public my um one of my best friends his name is rashid he's the husband of my other best friend her name is sasha he called to see if what he had heard was true because he thought that maybe it was just something being drummed up because we're supposed to be on a reality show or something like that and when he called i said no everything that you heard is absolutely true it's it's a terrible story um as you said you know roshan
Starting point is 00:24:13 was circling the drain at that time and rashid decided to come to new york from california because he he lives in la but we had a very a horrible event happen um at our home and you can read about it in the book but mind you rashid didn't like me rashid you know he always thought our relationship was toxic which you were too controlling he thought i was too controlling which i was at times but so he didn't like me so the fact that he flew in to try to save this relationship meant a lot because he already didn't like me I thought you said Tyree saved the relationship that's coming that was the sign well what happened was he flew in and I didn't want him there because our marriage was ending and I just wanted to be my by myself but he insisted he said I'm pulling into I'm flying into New York Newark International Airport at such and such a time.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Come get me. I went and I got him. And that was the start of the biggest change that we needed to go through. He came to our house and I said, why are you here? And he said, God sent me here. I said, of all people, you, you're the only person in our lives that didn't champion our marriage. You're the only one that ever told me that maybe he's not the right person for me. Why you?
Starting point is 00:25:32 He said, Gia, I don't know. I've been praying since I got off the phone with you after that terrible thing happened. And I walked into my boss's office, told him I had to take a leave of absence, went home, packed a bag, and got on a plane and headed here. And it's only through the assignment of God. God spoke to me. I said, so what does that mean? Like, are you hearing voices?
Starting point is 00:25:52 Like, what do you mean God spoke to you? And he said to me, when God speaks to you, it's as though he puts an overwhelming feeling on your heart. And when he tells you to do something, you don't ask any questions. You just do it. And I said, okay, well, basically, I'm going to have to wrap my mind around that because I didn't have the tools to really understand that.
Starting point is 00:26:12 And he stayed with us for about maybe 10, 12 days and he taught us a lot about God and faith and spirituality and what his assignment was. And he brought in his pastor. Her name was Sister Nancy. She had the same feedback from God when she prayed.
Starting point is 00:26:31 And this was all new to me. And I was actually very angry because now I have people in my life that I respect and love that are telling me that I have to stay in a relationship that I'm adamant on getting out of. And it was very, very heavy. I can't describe to you how heavy it was. And how insistent he was. In his assurance of what God communicated to him.
Starting point is 00:26:52 And to fast forward. Tyrese. Same thing. I didn't know. We knew Tyrese coming up here doing interviews. But I didn't know Tyrese. I didn't have his number. He didn't have a new song.
Starting point is 00:27:00 But when he heard me on the radio that day. He called and wanted to speak to Gia and you can read in the book because he got us together but he said the exact same thing like Tyrese and Rashid was speaking to each other and it was kind of like those two were the ones to really save my marriage and they didn't know each other and Gia you had asked for a sign well that was the thing because I was so angered by what I was hearing like oh I was a victim being cheated on now I'm being victimized again by God telling me that I have to stay in a relationship, that I'm adamant about leaving. I don't understand this.
Starting point is 00:27:32 And I was and I'm not a big crier. But one day I was taking a shower and I began to cry and I began to pray in the way that I was learning how to pray. And I asked God for a sign that I can interpret for myself. So at least it would feel as though I was making my own decision and a decision wasn't being made for me. So I damn near begged for a sign. And then shortly after Tyrese called Rashawn and asked for him to set something up. And we went to Philippe Chow's. He came in with a backup singer and a guitarist he performed stay just for Rashaun and I then he sat down for about four hours and we had a conversation
Starting point is 00:28:11 and he tried to explain to me um how a man can love you and still cheat at the same time because I didn't really understand that but at the end of the conversation I asked him I said you know why are you here you didn't you don't even know if I'm a good person. You don't know if this relationship is even worth salvaging. Why would you do that? You didn't know Rashawn. You have no dog in this fight. You have nothing to gain or lose. You're supposed to be at a wedding somewhere else. You changed your flights to be here. Why? He said, God sent me here to do this. I said, what do you mean God sent you here to do this? He said, God sent me. I said, are you hearing voices?
Starting point is 00:28:50 He said, no. And then he reiterated verbatim exactly what Rashid said to me in my kitchen that day. And I had to ask Tyrese, I said, is that like in the Bible? Is that what you just said? Is that like a thing that people know? And he said, no, I'm just telling you how I feel. Like that what you just said? Is that like a thing that people know? And he said, no, I'm just telling you how I feel. Like, what do you mean? At that moment, I just like threw my hands up and I said, okay. And I looked at Rashawn and I said, I forgive you. I don't know what that means. I will work on this with you. I don't know how long that will take. I will do what I'm now believing is required of me. But we're going to be in
Starting point is 00:29:28 for a ride because I'm not really there, but I can commit to you in this moment because there is not that much coincidence in the world for what just happened.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Thank you, God. Yes. I'm sorry, Gia. I'm sorry to my wife, too. I just feel like apologizing. This is a trigger conversation. I just feel like apologizing. I'm sorry to all I'm sorry to my wife too I just feel like apologizing this is a trigger in conversation I just feel like apologizing
Starting point is 00:29:47 I'm sorry to all women that's what she did alright we got more with my wife Gia Casey when we come back we're talking our new book that's out right now real life real love
Starting point is 00:29:55 so don't go anywhere it's the Breakfast Club good morning the free iHeartRadio app has over 250,000 podcasts to explore yes this is the Breakfast Club 30
Starting point is 00:30:04 part of Sunday Night Podcast on iHeartRadio. We got a special guest still in the building, my wife, Gia Casey. We're talking about our new book, Real Life, Real Love, Life Lessons on Joy, Pain, and the Magic that Holds Us Together. You could pick it up today, or you can get it on Audible or Kindle or wherever you get your books.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Yee. A lot of gems in this book, you guys. I was thoroughly entertaining. Like I said, I went through- You look stressed. I'm good. I felt like he's been nervous all morning before you got here. I was not nervous all morning. It's a triggering conversation.
Starting point is 00:30:31 The book is out today. Go get it, man. Make sure you pick it up. Real life, real love. Get it today. Life lessons on joy, pain, and the magic that holds us together. That's right. Amazon, Barnes and Nobles, wherever you buy books, your local bookstores, please pick it up today
Starting point is 00:30:46 and when you do read it, or you read it, please, what we want you to do is, we want you to tell us what you think about the book. Whether it's a 30-second video tag here and there, we want to repost it. Whether you love it, whether you hate it, we're going to repost all of them, because we'd love to get you guys' feedback. Yeah, and I think that y'all are going to help a lot of couples, and it's clear that y'all
Starting point is 00:31:02 too are meant to be with each other. You know what I'm saying? One of my favorite chapters is called The New Deal couples and it's clear that y'all too are meant to be with each other you know what i'm saying one of my favorite chapters is called the new deal and it's pretty much about reparations that the offender has to make after offending their partner um and it's those things that will help to let to signal to your partner that you just may be worthy of forgiveness and being expended grace. So what are those reparations? The first thing people will say is, oh, that's why he does the 12 days of Christmas. You know, that's right.
Starting point is 00:31:30 A lot of people do say that. We did that before. But you know what's funny? And that's the funny thing. We've always done 12 days of Christmas. We just never made it public. And it's not the type of thing that at first I ever wanted to make public because it is grand. But I decided to start posting it because it's not about the material items that he gives me for Christmas.
Starting point is 00:31:58 It's about the intention behind it. It's about the thought. You know, he starts shopping almost a year in advance for that. And every gift comes with something special. A little note, a little treasure hunt to find the gift, a prayer, a poem, something that is giving of his heart,
Starting point is 00:32:18 not giving of his pocket. And that's why when you, you know, you read the book and you hear y'all talk, that's why you understand why he got so upset at Deedee Samara. That's correct. You know what I'm saying? Because y'all talk, that's why you understand why he got so upset at Deedee Samara. That's correct. You know what I'm saying? Because y'all relationship is so much deeper than that.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Of course. Because with their comment, it almost to me suggests as though there's nothing else worthy about him that would signal me to stay aside from what he has to offer financially. And it's a joke, right? But we all know that all jokes are rooted in some truth. And that's what I think their truth was, looking at it from an outsider. I wasn't some Jackie come lately and met somebody with money and was like, oh, come up. We ground it out from day one.
Starting point is 00:33:06 I was always there and supporting him and loving him. And if he failed and wound up being a secretary or anything, followed another path, I would still be there. Yeah, I think he'd be a proctologist. A proctologist. He says that on the side of the camera. It took a beat to get that? I'm not going to say it. I'm not going proctologist. A proctologist. He does that on the side of the camera. It took a beat to get that?
Starting point is 00:33:28 I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I just can't believe he's flirting with me with my wife here. I'm not. What are you talking about? I'm just suggesting other career options that you could have taken.
Starting point is 00:33:35 I can't believe he's flirting with me with my wife here. Like, you're disrespectful. Real life, real love. Thank you for having me, guys. That's right. Pick it up today and it's the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Good morning. No, you got to tell this guest I love you before you sign off. Yes. Gia, Casey, thank you for joining us. I love you. I love you, too. I love you way more than Charlotte. Hey!
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