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This week, it's The Breakfast Club 30.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God.
We are The Breakfast Club.
We got a special guest in the building.
Never met her before.
She's an actress.
She's an author.
She's a mom.
Ladies and gentlemen, Gia. She's a wife. She's an author. She's a mom. Ladies and gentlemen,
She's a wife.
And my wife.
Yes, Gia.
Hello.
Welcome.
Gia what?
That's just one name?
She's like Madonna,
Beyonce,
just one name?
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
How nervous are you, sir?
Seriously.
I know,
he's been acting real weird
all morning.
I'm fine.
Well, you know what?
Are you nervous, fool?
No.
You guys have a book out,
Real Life, Real Love, Life Lessons on Joy, Pain, and the Magic that Holds Us Together. And I've been dying I'm fine well you know what you guys have a book out real life real love
life lessons on joy
pain and the magic
that holds us together
and I've been dying
to ask you this question
Gia in person
oh boy
in this room
how do you feel about
Charlamagne and Envy
flirting with each other
every day
um
it kind of turns me on
what
we didn't expect that answer.
Now I'm nervous.
What the hell?
I have that effect on people.
Okay.
Explain.
No, I mean, I think it's a little strange.
But I'm amused by it.
It's just brotherly love.
That's all.
I'm amused by it.
Does anything go too far ever?
No, it's all good fun and entertainment
That's all it is
I don't mind it
So you didn't mind
When he gave me the ass?
First of all
Context please
Or actually
Context
Everybody doesn't watch the show every day
Context please
Okay
Wait, can you guys soundbite that?
When he gave me a mold of his ass
That's right
And it wasn't my ass
It was a mold of a ass
Yes
I thought it was a mold of your actual No,'s right. And it wasn't my ass. It was a mold of a ass. Yes.
I thought it was a mold of your actual.
No, no.
My aint that fat.
And then what about
when they touch each other
and stuff?
That's never happened.
We don't touch each other.
We don't touch each other.
I've never seen them
touch each other.
That hasn't happened.
No.
You want to tell me
something I need to know?
No, they like rub up,
brush against each other.
If they're walking
out the door at some time,
That's not true.
We threaten to rub up
against each other.
We don't ever do it.
They go on the revolving door together.
That happened one time by accident.
Explain that.
Now I need answers.
It was stupid.
I don't even know how that happened.
It was really stupid.
It was really dumb.
That had to be very intentional.
No, it wasn't.
I don't even know how it happened.
One is in and then one makes his way in.
We was in the revolving door together walking around.
It was so stupid and dumb.
You don't just fall into a revolving door with no one.
All we did was giggle because it was so stupid.
We had to giggle our way through it.
You just added insult to injury.
You said, I don't know how it happened.
You said, I don't know how it happened. You said, I don't know how it happened. You said, I don't know how it happened. You said, I don't know was so stupid. You don't just fall into a revolving door. All we did was giggle because it was so stupid.
We had to giggle all the way through it.
You just added insult to injury.
You're sitting there in the one slot giggling together.
They just giggled.
They just giggled right through it again.
Oh, man.
All right.
Well, whatever, guys.
Anyway, back to the matter at hand.
I don't lie.
Real life, real love.
What is that magic that holds y'all together, you think?
How would you describe it?
You know, whenever I find that people come to our house or are around us,
I think they're kind of surprised at how much fun we have together.
I find him to be very charming and charismatic.
And one of the things that I love most about him is his boyish nature.
So we really have a lot of fun together. And we always have since we first met. The first week we spent together, I thought to
myself, wow, he's a lot of fun. He's like a friend, you know, and that's part of the magic.
You knew that this was the person you were going to spend the rest of your life with?
After about two weeks of knowing him, yes. But he knew before y'all even spent a day together.
Explain. Before we even spent a day together. I did. Explain.
Before we even spent a day together?
Well, when I first seen you, I mean, I wrote in the book that I thought you were beautiful and amazing.
And the first time I saw you, you were actually running track.
And for people that don't know, you know, track, she used to play track.
That was a good one.
I like that.
It was a skimpy outfit.
And, you know, Gia had, you know, big double Ds.
And I would basically stalk her outside
and just watch her run track
and watch her breast bottle.
I like that word.
Don't say stalk.
He wasn't stalking her.
Yeah, but that's actually
what he was doing.
It was actually stalking.
And I would see him.
I would see him sitting
with his friends
in this bright blue Con Edison van
because that's what his parents
bought him to transfer his DJ equipment from Sweet 16 to Sweet 16.
That's what he was DJing at the time.
I just had a Con Edison van.
It was cheap back then.
And I would see it parked behind the fence.
I'm thinking to myself, like, yo, why is this van there every day at track practice?
A van?
Yo, that is crazy.
Yes.
It was bright blue. He wasn't low.
He was not low.
And he was just sitting in the van doing
And then one day he emerged.
Actually, babe, do you remember one day
he emerged from the van and approached
me and kicked it. And I was like,
oh, so you're that weirdo.
That's in the van. We were both kids. Yes. She was. And I was like, oh, so you're that weirdo. That's in the van.
But y'all were both kids.
Yes.
She was 15.
I was 16.
We went to the same high school.
So, Embi, you say that you knew that she was going to be your wife, like, right away.
You think it was before y'all even spoke?
No, when we spoke. When you were just stalking her?
When we actually, no, when we actually spoke and, you know, I found out how, you know,
beautiful she was inside and outside and how smart she was and caring.
And she was just that.
She was the one.
She was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in my life
and the most precious thing.
So I was like, this is going to be my wife.
I want people to get the book,
but I do want to explain,
how do you keep reinventing the relationship
when you start that young?
Now Envy's 50-something.
You know what I mean?
You're much, much younger.
But how do you keep reinventing?
I think that that's part of the magic.
We don't have to try.
We don't intentionally,
we do a lot of things
intentionally and deliberately,
but we don't intentionally
reimagine the relationship
and act on that.
The only thing that I would say
that we're good about is keeping it
sexy and making sure that that part of our relationship doesn't get too monotonous and
doesn't get stale. So we have a lot of fun in that space. But we don't have to think like,
God, how am I going to stop being bored of you? Or how am I going to get to a point where you
don't annoy me anymore? He legitimately does not annoy me. I look forward to his phone calls every day.
And we probably speak on the phone about maybe eight or nine, ten times a day.
Because he's away a lot.
So he calls me on his way to the breakfast club.
He calls me on his way home from the breakfast club.
He calls me if something happens.
He calls me incessantly.
And I'm never like, oh, you again.
I'm like, oh, him again.
It's just that feeling that I've always had
that no matter what ups or downs we were going through,
that never left me.
Now, he told us a story about the cowboy outfit that he wears.
He told you about that?
Yeah.
Wait, wait, wait.
The cowboy outfit in college?
With the assless chaps.
There's no assless chaps.
They were.
Yeah, you told us about that.
Hold on, wait, Rashawnawn Did you actually tell them about that
He did
Like on air or in private
I forgot I told y'all about that
He did
Cause if it was in private
This is a whole double cross
Yeah
He told us he dressed up as a cowboy
And he had the
Why you looking at me like that
Hold on
Cause I remember that day
Okay
Cause I remember that day
Cause after he told the story
He goes
He did
And I was like what
He did
When we were in college Yeah We went through a stage where we were doing like a lot of...
Role playing.
Role playing.
Yeah.
And one night I dared him to be a cowboy.
So we went and got the cowboy outfit.
He had like the big brown hat.
And then he had like the little holsters and everything.
And babe, do you remember I took pictures?
Where are those?
Are they in the book?
About maybe
three years after,
he made me physically
burn them on the grill.
Wow.
He put them on the grill
and told me
I had to light it.
Yeah, they don't exist anymore.
Don't you wish
you still had that in me?
No.
But y'all talk about
role play in the book.
You say he likes to put on
the Roc Nation paper playing hat
and he goes,
what's my name?
And he wants you to say Jigga?
I didn't contribute
to that chapter.
Okay. That wasn't my work. No, I didn't contribute to that chapter okay that wasn't my work
no I didn't do that
no okay
so wait
so he wasn't lying
they were assless chaps
yeah yeah
he had a whole
it was a whole thing
I just pulled a you on you
he did not tell us that
damn it to help me
get my book
and you will learn
a slew
of tactics
tricks and techniques
on how to get
what you want
out of life
okay it was a holster by the way they were holsters yeah it was a holster of tactics, tricks, and techniques on how to get what you want out of life.
Okay.
It was a holster, by the way.
They were holsters.
Yeah, it was a holster.
What were some other dress-up things you guys did? All right.
It was more so me dressing up,
and he was just like the recipient of that.
That was a one little...
And that's why it was a dare,
because it was kind of supposed to be a joke,
but he never really dressed up.
One time I was a nurse and he was a doctor.
That was once.
Did you really burn the pictures?
I really did.
Really?
In front of him.
Wow.
You didn't have copy.
I would have kept those just in case.
Put those in the safe.
I have the negatives.
I wasn't going to share that.
In case anything ever goes left in our relationship,
I have that.
I will ruin his entire reputation.
Or he might never be able to work again.
It might crush him over to a new audience.
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We got a special guest still in the building
My wife, Gia Casey
We're talking about our new book
Real Life, Real Love
Life Lessons on Joy, Pain, and the Magic
That Holds Us Together.
You could pick it up today
or you can get it on Audible or Kindle
or wherever you get your books.
Yee.
How was it for both of you writing this book together?
Some of it was fun.
It was nice to be creative
and get your thoughts down on paper.
It was work, but a lot of it was difficult.
I'm a very open person.
Rashawn, I think, had a difficult time because he had to relive a lot of the negative things that transpired in our relationship.
And he can tend to be surface in some respects where you ask him a question, he gives you an answer.
I'm a lot more of an in-depth person.
You know, I think critically about things and when we would go over these chapters
that he's assigned to write
I would ask him questions
like okay you can't just answer it
with a yes or a no or a simple blanket
like one question would mean
ten more questions to really get to the meat
and I had to keep reiterating
we're writing this book so that people
have something tangible, a reference
point for them
to make changes in their lives if necessary or to recognize that the person that you're with
needs to make changes in their lives and it was a journey it was a journey but i think it was
difficult yeah no for me it was difficult i had to relive a lot of the f-boy ish i put you through
and you don't you forget about a lot of it because you don't have to relive it but then when you start
No you forget about a lot of it. I forget
nothing. I think
it's men that's the point though right because it's like
we don't realize how much we do hurt
our women.
Is that true though? Yeah I think so.
I don't think we realize how deep that
That sounds like an okie doke to me.
Until you actually sit down and have
those you know uncomfortable conversations you don't think we... Until you actually sit down and have those, you know, uncomfortable conversations,
you don't realize how much you infected your woman.
If your wife cheated on you and told you that she would have no idea
how much that it stood to hurt you, would that make sense to you?
Probably not.
But, I mean, men don't make sense.
You believe that.
You believe that you're born inherently with, like, a deficit. Not a deficit, but I just don't think... Of common sense. I don't think we're thinking about that. You believe that you're born inherently with like a deficit.
Not a deficit,
but I just don't think...
Of common sense.
I don't think we're thinking about it.
You know what I mean?
Like that's the sad part.
It's selfish.
And that's what keeps you
from doing it in the future.
You know what I mean?
Because you do not want to hurt
the woman that you love.
And it's so crazy
because I saw that with my pops.
Like I saw the pain
that that caused my mom
with his infidelity.
So in my mind,
I was like, damn, I'm about to make the same mistake.
So I think it is difficult when you got to relive it because you don't want to talk about it because you don't want to trigger you.
You know, some people feel.
I don't get triggered though.
Damn.
What?
That scared me just now.
I was about to call security.
No, once I got to a point and it was a process.
Once I got to a point
where I accepted
that it was my job
to move on
because I decided
to forgive him
and because he had done
all of the work
and then some
to regain my trust to earn grace from me. I got to a point
where I no longer wanted to punish and I didn't have that inherent need to see him suffer.
Because when you hurt, and you say it all the time, hurt people hurt people. When you're hurt,
you want not just people, you want the person that hurt you to hurt.
And anytime that I felt any type of way, I made sure that he felt some type of way.
So once I learned how to forgive and that was a process because I wasn't necessarily a forgiving person before.
Everything was very black and white to me, not very much gray.
But once I learned and I understood that that's what was expected from me of God, I had to commit to that and do my best to live up to what forgiveness meant.
And that's what set me free.
Because when you forgive, you don't forgive to ease the burden from the other person.
You forgive to ease the burden from you.
That's real.
What was the work you guys did together? Like you had to work on forgiveness.
And when you said, okay, I'm going to, you know, have to move on from this.
But what was the work that he did that let you know, OK, he's serious.
And, you know, I can finally just say I'm not getting triggered anymore.
I'm going to let this go.
One of the first things was I realized that he understood the impact of what had happened, what he did.
He understood it.
He didn't just accept it and was accountable for it, but he actually understood.
He would do things that a lot of men wouldn't do.
He would sit there through those eight-hour conversations locked in a room.
He answered every question
that I had. And I had a lot of questions. And he answered them all truthfully. And, you know,
when you ask somebody a question and you can tell by their answer, because I mean,
the answers weren't pretty. They weren't things that I would have wanted to hear.
He went through all of the separation, as I call it, and he did it until.
Because a lot of guys, when they mess up, and I mean, a lot of them have told me I have friends that have gone through it.
It's like, listen, I did it.
I apologize.
I said I was never going to do it again.
I mean that ish.
But it's like every day I'm being punished.
I'm being punished.
I'm being reminded.
It's like, let it go.
I apologize. Like, what more do you want from me? Blood? He never took that approach with me. It was the until. Until you are good. Until you are healed. If I have to be a punching bag, I will be that. If I have to be a doormat, I will be that. I will do anything that it makes to survive this because I cannot be without you.
And he proved it every single day. It was as though, and he was like this before, but it was even more so during this time.
It was as though he communicated to me that the only thing that he wanted was to make me happy.
And that's pretty much how he lives his life.
He lives his life every day, waking up thinking like, damn, how can I make Gia's life easier today? How can I make Gia happier today? But to answer your question it was the until.
It was the indefinite and it was the willingness to do any and everything to earn what he lost
back. And was there ever a question in your mind? I know there was a point when you thought
no matter what I do she's never gonna take me back. Was there ever a time when you were like
you cry I'm gonna come over there and hug you.
I'm just letting you know.
You better hold them tears.
I'ma hug the out of you from the back if you cry.
In front of your wife.
And then flex your pelvis.
But yes, to answer your question, yes.
Catch that little feel.
At that point, I just,
you know, I didn't know what was gonna happen,
but I was like, I have to be honest
to at least get my friend back, you know?
And at that point, you know, I didn't know what Gia was going to do.
I thought it was a wrap.
But I was like, I still wanted my friend.
I still wanted somebody I can talk to.
You know, I still wanted a relationship with her that we can bounce.
Like, she's all I knew since I was 16.
So I still wanted my friend back.
And she's Jamaican.
That could have been forever beef.
That could have been forever.
But, you know, it's interesting that you didn't kick him out of the house.
You were still polite to him. You still wanted to maintain a co-parenting friendship I feel like that hurts more when you're like we're not having sex and I might end up with somebody
else one day but you know we're cool that hurts more I think sometimes than just completely like
being nasty to somebody and cutting them off? Yes. Well, when I found out divorce was imminent, it was never a question. I was raised by a very
strong mother who taught me that if a man ever disrespects you to that degree, then you walk.
So it didn't matter how much I loved Rashawn and how much I would have missed him.
It didn't matter if I cried every night. It did not matter one iota how I felt. The only thing
that was important to me was that I operated with my head and not my heart and that I did what I
always said that I was going to do. So when I found out, when it was confirmed for me, and you can read the book and see the
entire story, but when he confirmed it, we were in a parking lot. And when I drove away from that
parking lot, it was a few days before Christmas. And his mother was at the house helping me
decorate because we were hosting that year. But I walked into the house and I told her,
Christmas is canceled. And she said christmas is canceled and she said
christmas is canceled and i said well i just found out that rashaun cheated on me and we're
getting a divorce so there's not gonna be any christmas this year um at least i'm not hosting
yo it's wild that people actually cancel christmas i thought that was just a figure of speech no
no if this happened we canceling christmas you cancel christmas
well in in the sense of us hosting i wasn't going to cancel it for our children but
you know we didn't have to decorate for 30 people to come over and um my lovely mother-in-law hi
mama um she defended her beautiful son with everything that she could because... Them bitches lying. Pretty much.
And when she said something to that effect, I said,
but for the fact that he just told me that it was true.
And he came home maybe 20 or 30 minutes later.
And it was a whole thing, right?
But I was adamant that we were getting a divorce.
I contacted an attorney, paid an attorney.
It was decided.
But thankfully, there were a whole host of things that happened that that convinced me that God had other plans.
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Charlamagne?
What did God say to you?
You know, I wasn't raised with this deeply instilled faith where I felt as though I knew God.
And I lived differently because I didn't know God in that way.
So when God revealed himself to me, and he may have tried for years, you see,
but I didn't speak his language.
I would have never been able to interpret God trying to reach out to me.
So I really believe that this happened so that me particularly, not even Rashawn, so
that I could be humbled.
When God spoke, he spoke through other people.
And when I found out what happened, it's funny, we were being approached for reality shows
at the time.
And when he took someone's
terrible advice
to apologize to me
on the radio
and make our personal
woes private
yeah our personal
woes public
I didn't know though
I didn't know what he was going through
he just being
laying on the floor because you guys would I didn't know he'd was going through he'd be in here laying on the floor
I didn't know what he'd be like out of
I'm like yo what the fuck is your problem
I didn't know what it was
so as I'm prodding him like what the hell is going on
I didn't know that was coming
oh so when he apologized
you didn't know what he was apologizing for
he would literally come in here and be like
laid out on the floor in the fetal position
the whole show like he would not be here with us he wouldn't be present and i just knew something was wrong so i'm like so no i was
like when he gets on the air i'm gonna ask him on the air what the is his problem because i was
tired of asking him behind the scenes and so i asked him on the air i didn't know that was coming
though it was a terrible idea but maybe it was the same dose of common sense that you guys are
talking about men seem to talking about men men think differently
yes but when it was made public my um one of my best friends his name is rashid he's the husband
of my other best friend her name is sasha he called to see if what he had heard was true
because he thought that maybe it was just something being drummed up because we're supposed
to be on a reality show or something like that and when he called i said no everything
that you heard is absolutely true it's it's a terrible story um as you said you know roshan
was circling the drain at that time and rashid decided to come to new york from california because he he lives in la but we had a very a horrible event happen um at our
home and you can read about it in the book but mind you rashid didn't like me rashid you know
he always thought our relationship was toxic which you were too controlling he thought i was too
controlling which i was at times but so he didn't like me so the fact that he flew in to try to save
this relationship meant a lot because he already didn't like me I thought you said Tyree saved the relationship that's coming that was the sign
well what happened was he flew in and I didn't want him there because our
marriage was ending and I just wanted to be my by myself but he insisted he said
I'm pulling into I'm flying into New York Newark International Airport at such and such a time.
Come get me.
I went and I got him.
And that was the start of the biggest change that we needed to go through.
He came to our house and I said, why are you here?
And he said, God sent me here.
I said, of all people, you, you're the only person in our lives that didn't champion our marriage.
You're the only one that ever told me that maybe he's not the right person for me.
Why you?
He said, Gia, I don't know.
I've been praying since I got off the phone with you after that terrible thing happened.
And I walked into my boss's office, told him I had to take a leave of absence,
went home, packed a bag, and got on a plane and headed here.
And it's only through the assignment of God.
God spoke to me.
I said, so what does that mean?
Like, are you hearing voices?
Like, what do you mean God spoke to you?
And he said to me, when God speaks to you, it's as though he puts an overwhelming feeling on your heart.
And when he tells you to do something, you don't ask any questions.
You just do it.
And I said,
okay, well, basically,
I'm going to have to wrap my mind around that because I didn't have the tools
to really understand that.
And he stayed with us
for about maybe 10, 12 days
and he taught us a lot
about God and faith and spirituality
and what his assignment was.
And he brought in his pastor.
Her name was Sister Nancy.
She had the same feedback from God when she prayed.
And this was all new to me.
And I was actually very angry because now I have people in my life that I respect and
love that are telling me that I have to stay in a relationship that I'm adamant on getting
out of.
And it was very, very heavy.
I can't describe to you how heavy it was.
And how insistent he was.
In his assurance of what God communicated to him.
And to fast forward.
Tyrese.
Same thing.
I didn't know.
We knew Tyrese coming up here doing interviews.
But I didn't know Tyrese.
I didn't have his number.
He didn't have a new song.
But when he heard me on the radio that day.
He called and wanted to speak to Gia and
you can read in the book because he got us together but he said the exact same thing like
Tyrese and Rashid was speaking to each other and it was kind of like those two were the ones to
really save my marriage and they didn't know each other and Gia you had asked for a sign well that
was the thing because I was so angered by what I was hearing like oh I was a victim being cheated
on now I'm being victimized again by God telling me that I have to stay in a relationship, that I'm adamant about leaving.
I don't understand this.
And I was and I'm not a big crier.
But one day I was taking a shower and I began to cry and I began to pray in the way that I was learning how to pray.
And I asked God for a sign that I can interpret
for myself. So at least it would feel as though I was making my own decision and a decision wasn't
being made for me. So I damn near begged for a sign. And then shortly after Tyrese called Rashawn
and asked for him to set something up. And we went to Philippe Chow's. He came in with a backup
singer and a guitarist he
performed stay just for Rashaun and I then he sat down for about four hours and we had a conversation
and he tried to explain to me um how a man can love you and still cheat at the same time because
I didn't really understand that but at the end of the conversation I asked him I said you know why
are you here you didn't you don't even know if I'm a good person. You don't know if this relationship is even worth salvaging.
Why would you do that? You didn't know Rashawn. You have no dog in this fight. You have nothing
to gain or lose. You're supposed to be at a wedding somewhere else. You changed your flights
to be here. Why? He said, God sent me here to do this. I said, what do you mean God sent you here to do this?
He said, God sent me.
I said, are you hearing voices?
He said, no.
And then he reiterated verbatim exactly what Rashid said to me in my kitchen that day. And I had to ask Tyrese, I said, is that like in the Bible?
Is that what you just said?
Is that like a thing that people know?
And he said, no, I'm just telling you how I feel. Like that what you just said? Is that like a thing that people know? And he said, no,
I'm just telling you how I feel. Like, what do you mean? At that moment, I just like threw my hands up and I said, okay. And I looked at Rashawn and I said, I forgive you. I don't know what that
means. I will work on this with you. I don't know how long that will take. I will do what I'm now believing is required of me.
But we're going to be in
for a ride
because I'm not really there,
but I can commit to you
in this moment
because there is not
that much coincidence
in the world
for what just happened.
Thank you, God.
Yes.
I'm sorry, Gia.
I'm sorry to my wife, too.
I just feel like apologizing.
This is a trigger conversation. I just feel like apologizing. I'm sorry to all I'm sorry to my wife too I just feel like apologizing this is a trigger
in conversation
I just feel like apologizing
I'm sorry to all women
that's what she did
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We got a special guest still in the building,
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about our new book, Real Life,
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and the Magic that Holds Us Together. You could
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Audible or Kindle or wherever you get your books.
Yee. A lot of gems in this
book, you guys. I was thoroughly
entertaining. Like I said, I went through-
You look stressed.
I'm good.
I felt like he's been nervous all morning before you got here.
I was not nervous all morning.
It's a triggering conversation.
The book is out today.
Go get it, man.
Make sure you pick it up.
Real life, real love.
Get it today.
Life lessons on joy, pain, and the magic that holds us together.
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Amazon, Barnes and Nobles, wherever you buy books, your local bookstores, please pick it up today
and when you do read it, or you read it,
please, what we want you to do is, we want you to
tell us what you think about the book. Whether
it's a 30-second video tag here and there,
we want to repost it. Whether you love it, whether
you hate it, we're going to repost all of them,
because we'd love to get you guys' feedback. Yeah, and I think
that y'all are going to help a lot of couples, and it's clear that y'all
too are meant to be with each other.
You know what I'm saying? One of my favorite chapters is called The New Deal couples and it's clear that y'all too are meant to be with each other you know what i'm saying one of my favorite chapters is called the new deal and it's pretty
much about reparations that the offender has to make after offending their partner um and it's
those things that will help to let to signal to your partner that you just may be worthy of
forgiveness and being expended grace.
So what are those reparations?
The first thing people will say is, oh, that's why he does the 12 days of Christmas.
You know, that's right.
A lot of people do say that.
We did that before.
But you know what's funny?
And that's the funny thing.
We've always done 12 days of Christmas.
We just never made it public.
And it's not the type of thing that at first I ever wanted to make public because it is grand.
But I decided to start posting it because it's not about the material items that he gives me for Christmas.
It's about the intention behind it.
It's about the thought.
You know, he starts shopping almost a year in advance for that.
And every gift comes with something special.
A little note,
a little treasure hunt to find the gift,
a prayer, a poem,
something that is giving of his heart,
not giving of his pocket.
And that's why when you, you know,
you read the book and you hear y'all talk,
that's why you understand
why he got so upset at Deedee Samara.
That's correct. You know what I'm saying? Because y'all talk, that's why you understand why he got so upset at Deedee Samara. That's correct.
You know what I'm saying?
Because y'all relationship is so much deeper than that.
Of course.
Because with their comment, it almost to me suggests as though there's nothing else worthy about him that would signal me to stay aside from what he has to offer financially.
And it's a joke, right?
But we all know that all jokes are rooted in some truth.
And that's what I think their truth was, looking at it from an outsider.
I wasn't some Jackie come lately and met somebody with money and was like,
oh, come up.
We ground it out from day one.
I was always there and supporting him and loving him.
And if he failed and wound up being a secretary or anything,
followed another path, I would still be there.
Yeah, I think he'd be a proctologist.
A proctologist.
He says that on the side of the camera.
It took a beat to get that? I'm not going to say it. I'm not going proctologist. A proctologist. He does that on the side of the camera.
It took a beat to get that?
I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
I just can't believe
he's flirting with me
with my wife here.
I'm not.
What are you talking about?
I'm just suggesting other career options
that you could have taken.
I can't believe he's flirting with me
with my wife here.
Like, you're disrespectful.
Real life, real love.
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Yes.
Gia, Casey, thank you for joining us.
I love you.
I love you, too.
I love you way more than Charlotte.
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