The Breakfast Club - THROWBACK: 2020

Episode Date: September 25, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:00:16 What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. We need help! That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast
Starting point is 00:00:46 Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, 1974. George Foreman was champion of the world. Ali was smart and he was handsome. The story behind The Rumble in the Jungle is like a Hollywood movie. But that is champion of the world. Ali was smart and he was handsome. The story behind The Rumble in the Jungle is like a Hollywood movie. But that is only half the story. There's also James Brown, Bill Withers, B.B. King, Miriam Akiba.
Starting point is 00:01:54 All the biggest black artists on the planet. Together in Africa. It was a big deal. Listen to Rumble, Ali, Foreman, and the Soul of 74 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Dr. Laurie Santos, host of the Happiness Lab podcast. As the U.S. elections approach, it can feel like we're angrier and more divided than ever. But in a new, hopeful season of my podcast, I'll share what the science really shows, that we're surprisingly more united than most people think. We all know something is wrong in our culture, in our politics, and that we need to do better and that we can do better. Listen on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:02:35 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. I'm ready for that. Go! iHeart Radio. Now number one for podcasting presents Sunday Night Podcast. Every Sunday, we play one of the most played and most listened to and most shared podcasts of the week. From the 250,000 podcasts available in the free iHeart Radio app. Find your next favorite podcast on iHeart Radio. This week, it's The Breakfast Club 30. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:03:04 We got a special guest in the building. She's in here with all this big queen energy. Ari Lennox, welcome. Thank you so much. How you feeling this morning? Horrified. I'm just a little nervous. You know, it's only you. It's only because of you. Just kidding, yeah. But just a little nervous. It's a very legendary show, so. What took you so long to come up here then fear fear yeah what are you scared of no why you've never serviced me before
Starting point is 00:03:32 and yeah i love her and we had a good time you just don't love us no it's just you know y'all can be a little tough on people sometimes yeah we've evolved you've changed a a whole lot. Yeah, and I feel that. I feel that. So I want to, if you don't mind, for people that don't know who Ari Lennox is or where you're signed to
Starting point is 00:03:51 or how you got your start, I want to start from the beginning for those people since this is your first time. You want her to do a documentary? Oh, yeah. Do a documentary. So you're signed to J. Cole.
Starting point is 00:03:59 How did you get into the music industry and signed to Cole? Well, I was working at Public Storage and just dropping music on SoundCloud. And there's an amazing rapper named Omen. He loved my music. He told Eve and Cole about it. And he was like, we'll fly you out like tomorrow or tonight, something like that, so that you can meet cole in the studio and stuff like that and i was horrified you know i just got the job i didn't want to lose the job
Starting point is 00:04:30 it was ten dollars an hour you know it was the highest paid job i ever had ten dollars an hour yeah so i didn't want to like lose this so i I almost didn't go. But honestly, I think it was fear, you know, fear of flying and things like that. But I just I got over it. I drank Mad Vodka and I got on that flight. That was your first flight as well? First flight in a long time, like years. Did you lose your job? Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 00:05:00 I did. And I was I was horrified. And I started doing Uber. There's a lot here now. First of all, what were you afraid? Why are you afraid of flying? I did, and I was horrified. And I started doing Uber. Hold on. There's a lot here now. First of all, why were you afraid of flying? Well, I had a traumatic experience when I was young on a flight before. Playing by the crash or something?
Starting point is 00:05:16 Yeah, well, the engines went out. Oh. And so, yeah. That'll do it. That'll do it. Yeah, so as we're about to land, he's basically telling us to brace for impact. And I was very young and just praying, but I don't remember having fear before that moment. But after that moment, I was just scared.
Starting point is 00:05:38 It's trauma. Yeah, I think so. Absolutely. Now, let's rewind. Now, you lose your job and you become an Uber driver. I can't see you driving no damn Uber. I was. Are you a good driver?
Starting point is 00:05:49 Am I a good driver? It depends. I'm very safe at driving, yes. But there are things that have happened where it's just like I could have been more, a little bit more alert. Okay. What was your star rating? My star rating? Oh, it started dropping like crazy.
Starting point is 00:06:03 And I don't know why. Some people thought I was driving too fast. Or one note I got was I was switching lanes too much. But I was trying to get them there. I don't know what the hell. What kind of car was it? A Kia Soul. Why are you doing that?
Starting point is 00:06:18 That's Uber X. Yeah, I was public storage. No, I didn't have no big fancy, you know. Tell me how the car was set up. What did you have in the car? What did you have in the car? It was just a nice black interior and a big bowl of candy. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:06:34 I love when Uber drivers have candy in their car. Did you have chargers for people? Yes, I did have my charger I would give because, you know, you can't trust people. Did you play your own music? No, not my, I would never. That's weird. When you get in the car, they start play your own music? No, not my... I would never. That's weird. When you get in the car, they start playing their own music. That happens to me all the time in there.
Starting point is 00:06:49 I mean, never, never. Not one time? No. Did you make conversation? Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it.
Starting point is 00:07:11 I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I create my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong?
Starting point is 00:07:26 No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder you know with explosive warheads.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Oh my god. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road portion
Starting point is 00:07:40 to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more.
Starting point is 00:08:08 After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High.
Starting point is 00:08:37 It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves.
Starting point is 00:09:16 For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Hey, everyone. This is Courtney Thorne-Smith, Laura Layton, and Daphne Zuniga. On July 8th, 1992, apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same as Melrose Place was introduced to the world. It took drama and mayhem to an entirely new level. We are going to be reliving every hookup, every scandal, every backstab, blackmail and explosion, and every single wig removal together. Secrets are revealed as we rewatch every moment with you.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Special guests from back in the day will be dropping by. You know who they are. Sydney, Allison, and Joe are back together on Still the Place with a trip down memory lane and back to Melrose Place. So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hi, I'm Dani Shapiro, host of the hit podcast, Family Secrets. How would you feel if when you met your biological father for the first time, he didn't even say hello? And how would you feel if your doctor advised you to keep your life-altering medical procedure a secret from
Starting point is 00:11:11 everyone? And what if your past itself was a secret and the time had suddenly come to share that past with your child? These are just a few of the powerful and profound questions we'll be asking on our 11th season of Family Secrets. Some of you have been with us since season one, and others are just tuning in. Whatever the case, and wherever you are, thank you for being part of our Family Secrets family, where every week we explore the secrets that are kept from us, the secrets we keep from others, and the secrets we keep from ourselves. Listen to Season 11 of Family Secrets on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Are you quiet? I made some conversations sometimes.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Three times people threw up in my car. How does that work? Do they pay for it? They pay for it, but it's nowhere near enough. And then you lose like five days of work because your car stinks and you're traumatized. How long did you have the Uber job for? This is interesting. This was my longest job to date. Uber, I probably did for like at least a year or something.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Wow. Yeah. So I guess the meeting didn't go well because you lost your job, but then you started driving Uber. No, the meeting went really well. I just, you know, I had to still make money. You know, they were still, you know, taking their time with the idea of like signing me. It wasn't like an immediate. This is my last Uber question.
Starting point is 00:12:37 When you saw the last Uber question. When you saw the episode of Insecure when Issa Rae was driving Uber, did you say, oh, I see me. I didn't see that episode. Oh, you never saw that episode? Yeah. I do when Issa Rae was driving did you say oh I see me I didn't see that oh you never saw that episode yeah I do love Issa yeah she drove Ubu on
Starting point is 00:12:49 on Insecure for a while she did wow I feel like a loser I need to you know why I never watched Insecure because
Starting point is 00:12:57 every time I would watch an episode I would just get so sad about my life and how like sexy these men were and how I had no men but that's by choice I feel like for you that's by choice
Starting point is 00:13:14 it is by choice because you could have a man but it might not be the one some people are okay with settling and saying okay I don't want to be alone. And people make you feel like that. But the truth is, it's better to wait to the right person. Absolutely. And I've definitely learned that the hard way. So very intentional in particular about who I want to share my time with. So I find myself alone a lot.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Why not change the mindset a little? You see the sexy man and you be like, I'm going to have that one day. I'm going to have a man like that for myself one day. I've been more adamant on, like, my standards. Absolutely. I do do that. Like, I'm more like, yes, he has to be fine.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Yes, he has to have a nice job. Yes, he has to be good to me and effective communicator. Like, I am like... Have his own place. Have his own place. He can have his own place. I am, you know, chanting those things within. And my assistant loves you, right? Really? Her name is Mercedes.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Hi, Mercedes. So she sent me a couple of questions. One of the questions, she said, you have a song called P.O.F. She's single, by the way, right? She says, have you tried the dating app P.O.F. and were you ever catfished? And then she goes, by the way, that dating site is terrible. Oh. So have you ever tried plenty of fish before? Absolutely. I met my first boyfriend on POF. Really? His name is John. I don't know if I'll get in trouble for that. John is going to be so lit when this interview come out.
Starting point is 00:14:47 I've been telling y'all. I told you I used to rock with Ari. I heard you got kicked off of some dating sites because people didn't believe that it was you. Yeah, Tinder. They didn't believe it was me. And I didn't want to blank my Instagram so that people would know it's me and then maybe reach out to me for the wrong reasons. Like, you know, secret rappers. You are a fly human.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Thank you. What is happening here? I think I need to step outside more. But I'm finally stepping outside and, like, meeting, like, nice, like, you know, enjoyable individuals. Let's go back to John for a second. Why did you throw John Back in the sea Well John went to the military And
Starting point is 00:15:27 I felt like We were growing apart And The affection was lacking He called me bruh Once And I was just like You know what
Starting point is 00:15:36 I couldn't Yeah and it triggered me But And I know it wasn't just bruh Like it's fine You can call me that It's just I felt like our romance
Starting point is 00:15:43 Was kind of dissipating. And so I think that was just a triggering thing. And we had an argument. And I was like, well, I guess we're not together anymore. And that's kind of where to protect myself. Unfortunately, I do that. And he was like, okay, fine. We're not together anymore.
Starting point is 00:15:59 And he was really serious. Well, his loss. How many songs has he inspired? Probably P.O.F. The EP And my album Shea Butter Baby That's
Starting point is 00:16:09 Literally Greatly inspired by him And I'm so grateful Wow Well it was the first Relationship I ever had You still speak the language Yeah we're cool
Starting point is 00:16:17 We check on each other sometimes Why you ain't get an EP credit On Shea Butter Baby Well I mean it's the price you pay When you just Don't want to get back together and back in 20. I know women that swear by Shea Butter Baby.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Like they like that's like their Bible. So that's that's big of him. John, make the T-shirt. I inspired Shea Butter Baby. Don't make those T-shirts. Please. The free iHeartRadio app has over 250 000 podcasts to explore yes this is the breakfast club 30 part of sunday night podcast on iheart radio we're still kicking it with ari
Starting point is 00:16:52 lennox so you've met a lot of guys like well you've dated guys and they've been secret rappers i thought that was really funny oh when you date somebody and then all of a sudden you find out later like you'll pass this to Cole for me, yo. Exactly. Oh, my God. And it's the worst. It happens. But that's why I've learned with dating, ask specific questions. Are you a rapper?
Starting point is 00:17:16 Have you ever recorded music? Do you play basketball? I need to know specifically. That is hilarious. That's a plot for a movie or something. The girl thinks that the guy is cheating, but he's really sneaking off to record mixtapes. He's really sneaking off. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Exactly. And what did your mom and your family say when you were recording with Cole and going out there recording? Because a lot of times parents don't believe in the industry way. My dad never really knew what was going on in my life so you were the secret rapper yeah I was I mean he knew he he was the one who always said you're gonna be something one day like he he always said that but like he was kind of always doing his own thing so he never really was seeing that I was how serious I was about music which is
Starting point is 00:18:03 why he was like you should be a nurse but really he wanted to be a nurse and my mom was very calm was just like forward like happy for me but yeah very supportive she never really knew this like how uh serious you said that your dad used to always tell you um you're gonna be something you're gonna to be something. Does that put added pressure on a daughter? Wow. No. You know what? And it sucks because we're not even speaking right now. Ew. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:18:34 Okay. Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together.
Starting point is 00:19:03 You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There's 55 gallons of
Starting point is 00:19:49 water, 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tried my own country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their Be part of a great colonial tradition. What could go wrong? I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that?
Starting point is 00:20:17 Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:20:47 As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. This is Courtney Thorne-Smith, Laura Layton, and Daphne Zuniga.
Starting point is 00:21:43 On July 8th, 1992, apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same as Melrose Place was introduced to the world. It took drama and mayhem to an entirely new level. We are going to be reliving every hookup, every scandal, every backstab, blackmail, and explosion, and every single wig removal together. Secrets are revealed as we rewatch every moment with you. Special guests from back in the day will be dropping by. You know who they are.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Sydney, Allison, and Joe are back together on Still the Place with a trip down memory lane and back to Melrose Place. So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hi, I'm Dani Shapiro, host of the hit podcast, Family Secrets. How would you feel if when you met your biological father for the first time, he didn't even say hello? And how would you feel if when you met your biological father for the first time, he didn't even say hello? And how would you feel if your doctor advised you to keep your life-altering medical procedure a secret from everyone? And what if your past itself was a secret and the time had suddenly come to share that past with your child?
Starting point is 00:23:01 These are just a few of the powerful and profound questions we'll be asking on our 11th season of Family Secrets. Some of you have been with us since season one, and others are just tuning in. Whatever the case, and wherever you are, thank you for being part of our Family Secrets family, where every week we explore the secrets that are kept from us, the secrets we keep from others, and the secrets we keep from ourselves. Listen to Season 11 of Family Secrets on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So we're not even speaking right now,
Starting point is 00:23:37 but I do feel like when you instill certain things like that, it goes a long way for sure, because that is the one area in my life where i feel like i did really good all right now with you and your dad not now speaking is it something small that you can call him like because life is so short it's so much so like it um i really think it's important for like people to be healed when they're bringing kids into this world. I agree. Because it's just like that alone.
Starting point is 00:24:11 I feel like probably innately helped me in so many ways, like always grinding and like that. But I could also see the other like, you know, that I carry. And it's I'm sure it has to do with the other, you know, that you go through trauma. Well, let me let me tell you something I learned in therapy, because the first time I had a breakthrough in therapy was literally realizing all the daddy issues I had. Yeah. So when me and my dad had a conversation and I realized, damn, he was a human before he was my dad. And he had his own issues, substance abuse issues, dealing with mental health issues. And he was just doing the best he could with what he had at the time. It allowed me to give him a lot more grace. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:54 And we got to give our parents grace. I know. And I feel like there needs to be a lot of group therapy. Absolutely. And of course, I want to continue my therapy alone but I think that would probably be best because I know these are things I'm even carrying into my dating life and I just don't want to have that weight on me and I do want to be more compassionate because he went through a lot you know with foster care and abandonment issues and all kinds of like dark things.
Starting point is 00:25:27 So I do recognize why he is the way that he is. And you've been really open about going to therapy. When did you decide that that was something you wanted to do? This year, I was just tired of just being a big ball of like traumas, like just being unaware of like what was going on inside. And like, you know, a lot of times I could be so triggered and it's just like, well, why? And now I'm realizing why somebody just pretending like I don't exist or like not even looking at me or like kind of having like this arrogant nature can be so triggering like where did i see that like earlier in my life or experience that like i'm starting to realize it never stops it's like a cycle like if you don't realize that you're carrying all of this weight it comes out in different ways and people be like why is she freaked out it wasn't even that
Starting point is 00:26:21 serious it was a reminder it was a flashback probably. A trigger. A trigger without even realizing where it came from. And there's always something in our childhood. Yeah, always. There's always something
Starting point is 00:26:31 that happened in our childhood and it brings you, it happens to you as an adult and when it happens and you get triggered, you realize, oh, that's why therapy's great because like, oh,
Starting point is 00:26:38 that's why I'm reacting like this because of what happened here. Yes. And it's been really beautiful and like eye-opening for sure are you healing those those childhood wounds oh definitely i'm i want to keep going deeper this start is happening for sure and you said you see a lot of that um in the relationships that you have now like what are some things and patterns like i know you said
Starting point is 00:27:00 you want to be more sympathetic so what are some things that you feel like, OK, I got to work on this? Damn. Probably how I'm communicating. I'm a very anxious person. So basically, instead of saying, I've said this before, but instead of saying like nobody cares, like it's just about, well, you know, I feel like this is how I'm feeling. Like, you know, that I'm not being heard or, you know, I feel like this is how I'm feeling, like, you know, that I'm not being heard or you know what I'm saying? Like, I try to work on how I'm communicating
Starting point is 00:27:30 because I get so kind of in my own anxiety and mess that I can kind of be a little insensitive sometimes. So I just want to work on, like, that. And when it comes to performing and getting on stage, are you the type of person who gets nervous before that or does it all go away and that's where you feel most comfortable? Most times I rarely get nervous, like that nervous. But certain things like TV performances, like I'm shaking. Like it's just certain or Jasmine, Jasmine, like at the when we performed at the bt awards like horrified like i don't want to let this legend down like jasmine sullivan is everything so yeah question
Starting point is 00:28:13 when you get triggered by secret rappers do you remember the struggle rapper who traumatized you oh there's so many so many yeah. People we'll never hear of. There's so many, right? People we never hear of. Like, they just, they won't say it until, like, you like them. And it's just like, oh, I'm about to go to the studio. What? Why?
Starting point is 00:28:37 Like, when? What studio? Do people ever act like they don't know who you are when they want to date you and act like? Oh, my God. Like, hey, what do you do? You know? And act like they're't know who you are when they want to date you and act like, oh, my God. Like, hey, what do you do? You know, and act like they're not sure who you are. Yeah, I've definitely been in a relationship where he acted like I was not who I am at all. That's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Yeah, I was trying to feel appreciated. He kept trying to say it was just it's ego. Like, you know, it's not all about you type thing but really i just felt like he always kind of diminished everything about me you know like kind of pretended like this singing part didn't even exist i hate people like that don't try to make me feel small because you're yeah oh my god i mean that literally oh my gosh i didn't mean that literally. You know what I mean? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:29:27 What happened? Tell me. Tell me. What? I want to know. You're like. But you know what I mean. People that try to make us feel small just because they haven't done what they want to do in life.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Yeah. Yeah. I guess so. But now. What if his is big? Now I know. Is it okay for him to make you feel big? Oh, shut to do in life. Yeah. Yeah. I guess so. But now I know. What if his s*** is big? Is it okay for him to make a joke? Oh, shut up, Yee. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:29:51 But now I know, like, I just, my goal is just to date nice people. It's got to be hard, though. Because you're Ari Lennox now. So you don't know who, well, you don't know who likes you for you or who likes you because you're a superstar. Yeah, where you meeting these guys? Where am I meeting them? Where do you meet guys besides the, you for you or who likes you because you're a superstar. Where are you meeting these guys? Where are you meeting them? Plenty of fish. Where are you meeting these individuals?
Starting point is 00:30:10 The other day I met a guy at a fashion show. That was really nice. He was so fine but the date was terrible. What was terrible? His dress was probably better than yours. Especially if you met him in New York at fashion.
Starting point is 00:30:24 He did not have on a dress So how did he kick it to you? How did he kick it to you? You see you there You're sitting there He walks over He actually You gotta get by your security first
Starting point is 00:30:32 Well we were sitting in a seat And he Oh dang I don't want nobody to But She left those pictures Yeah She's sitting next to you
Starting point is 00:30:39 Oh But well I won't tell you Which fashion show You can stop now Yeah I can stop now Alright What was your... Well, he just...
Starting point is 00:30:46 He reached out and introduced himself and, like, shook hands, and it was really cute and sweet. And where was the first date? The first date? I ain't going to tell you where. Yeah, calm down, Embiid. I was curious if y'all went to a restaurant. It was a lovely restaurant. It really was, but he was late.
Starting point is 00:31:01 He was late to the date. What traffic is bad during Fashion Week? Nah, he's supposed to be there all the time. Isn't it Fashion Week now? He was hanging out with J. But traffic is bad during Fashion Week. No, he's supposed to be there on time. Isn't it Fashion Week now? He was hanging out with J. Cole and... What? What? So it's a rapper?
Starting point is 00:31:11 No, that's what I'm saying. Why was he hanging out with J. Cole? My dating life... Her whole team is like, stop. My dating life is just... Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed?
Starting point is 00:31:25 A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it.
Starting point is 00:31:39 I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tribe own country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong?
Starting point is 00:31:54 No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road
Starting point is 00:32:08 portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout?
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Starting point is 00:33:47 it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone, this is Courtney Thorne-Smith, Laura Layton, and Daphne Zuniga. On July 8th, 1992, apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same as Melrose Place was introduced to the world.
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Starting point is 00:36:18 iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's just not it. iHeartRad not radio for podcast discovery this is the breakfast club 30 here we go your chance to hear the biggest trending podcast each week from the free iheart radio app we're still kicking it with ari lennox charlamagne what was your intention with this album the intention was just me showcasing dating in its entirety from i was trying to get away from dating,
Starting point is 00:36:45 but you just brought us right back. Oh, I know. It's exact location. That's what it is. It's all right. It's on subject for you all. And it's where you are. You know what?
Starting point is 00:36:52 A lot of people can relate to you. That's one of the main questions people ask. How do you find somebody? Yeah. Like, somebody good, somebody nice. Do you think about marriage? Like, are you dating with the intention to get married? I guess how you find somebody probably is finding yourself, really.
Starting point is 00:37:08 And so that's really what I'm focused on. I got a little distracted with that recent date. And then I was like, well, let me see what else is out here. But I think I'm a pull back into like myself and just kind of like change my number and just focus on more beautiful books on trauma. And just focus on me. I got a great one for you. I might have it in here. Resmaa Minicum, My Grandmother's Hands.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Really? Yeah. We also have a Marianne Unbothered book in here, too. Oh, wow. Is that about traumas? Oh, wow. You look so adorable. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:42 You single? Oh, no, no, no. I'm kidding. She got a book back. Okay. He's single. Oh, no, no, no. I'm kidding. He could die. She should get a book back. Damn. I don't want nothing. No problem.
Starting point is 00:37:51 No, no. You have to get the book back. No singers. No singers. No rappers. What about ballplayers? You said earlier, oh, if he played basketball, he doesn't mention that. Maybe a soccer player would be nice.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Go where the money at, my G. Go where the money at. Is that where the money at? Football. That's where the would be nice. Go with the money at, my G. Go with the money at. Is that where the money at? Football. That's where the money at. Football is where the money at. That's where the real money at. Soccer.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Okay. Charlie's a bird. I didn't know that. I'm not a bird. I'm not a bird. No, I'm just saying we have intentions. See? Wow.
Starting point is 00:38:18 That's all. That's all. Now, did you finish your thought on the intentions of this album? The intention of the album is just making beautiful music that sounds like I'm in love based on crushes of people I've never even hung out with before. Like Mean Mug and Hoodie crushes on fine men that I never even hung out with. And then it gets to blocking you towards the end. It gets to blocking you and that's where I'm at right now with it Like in real life
Starting point is 00:38:48 But yeah, it's just dating and the emotions Towards the end of the album I'm definitely more about like Okay, it's time to protect my peace Like no one's going to do that for me And I find it irresponsible to be moving around in life With all of these unhealed you know traumas and trying to you know get to know people so i just you know i want to check some things some codependency things
Starting point is 00:39:14 and anxiety that's powerful fast you block people fast you talk about blocking do you block people fast if they ignore you just block them i do like one time i felt that there was distance happening and i was like hey can we talk i feel like something is changing he was like i thought we were good i thought everything was good um you know what just need to get something to eat i'm gonna call you right back and so i got on the phone with my dad and we me and my dad talked for like two hours and i didn't hear from the guy and I'm looking at my phone like wow like and so I blocked him after that and that was it right that was it we spoke one time since then I'm sure for some reason I'm attracting uh avoidant people who don't know how to communicate
Starting point is 00:39:58 well well you're probably attracting what you are that's why what you said about you know healing your own trauma before you get into another situation is so important that right there that's better than money you know how we all you know i'm about to say you know how we always say you need a man with money but you know you know i do want that but you really want a man that is doing the work like you're doing the work every i got so many homegirls that say i can't date a man if they're not in therapy they're not trying to help wow that's what i would want for, a secure individual and or someone who is striving to be secure and healing as well as I am healing and trying to heal. I wanted to ask you, what did you think? You know, you are one of the leaders of this new R&B era.
Starting point is 00:40:37 What did you think of Diddy's comments that R&B is dead? I thought it was dismissive to all of the amazing legendary artists that have been in the game and that are also contributing. I mean, from Mary J. Blige to Jasmine Sullivan to Summer Walker to Ella Mai to Money Long, Van Jess. Lucky Day. Lucky Day, Aaron Ray. There's so many of us. Taneriel. Brent Fies.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Brent Fies. Jalen jossie her her yes yes let's you know still working scissor like everyone is still killing it and dropping music and it was dismissive just because i don't know tink gotta say tink, exactly, amazing Yeah, I don't know why he said that It was not nice But I do love That's a good way to put it I do love all that he's contributed to music So it's no shade, but it's like
Starting point is 00:41:35 Be more nice to the people that are really You know, we're out here still Stop it I often wonder when you was young trying to get on What did you think the industry would be like? And what have you realized, you know, it really is? What did I think it was going to be like? I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:41:52 I just knew I just, I saw Bow Wow up there and JoJo, and I just wanted to be like them, like, when I was young. What did I think? I don't know what I thought. Like, maybe I thought there was going to be, like, a lot of, like, devil people, Illuminati. I've yet to see that. I thought there would be a lot of cocaine.
Starting point is 00:42:12 I've yet to see the rooms with... No one's ever seen cocaine. I've never seen it before. Are you waiting to sacrifice a family member or something? No, I'm not waiting. I promise. I don't want to sacrifice. I think I've never seen cocaine before either. No. Yeah, promise. I don't want to suffer. I've never seen cocaine before either.
Starting point is 00:42:26 No, yeah, exactly. I've been offered it, but I've never seen it. I've never been offered. I don't believe. I think I've been offered it twice in my life. But they didn't have it in their hand. They were like, do you party? Yeah, then I have been offered it before then.
Starting point is 00:42:41 In a bathroom. Yes, that's what that meant. Oh my God. You've been offered cocaine. I have been offered cocaine. then. In a bathroom. Yes, that's what that meant. Oh, my God. You've been offered cocaine. I have been offered cocaine. I call it a party party. All my friends are in the Illuminati. All your friends are in the Illuminati. I'm just playing.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Oh, my God. Oh, no. But we do appreciate you. We appreciate your music. Thank you. And, you know, I was kind of hurt when you said you didn't want to do interviews anymore. I was like, don't let one bad interaction with somebody mess up somebody else, you know. And I'm glad you're over that and I'm glad you're doing interviews again.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Thank you. I want people to understand that was just a part of my anxious nature of like what I met earlier when I was just like, nobody cares. I kind of worst case scenario and jump to like the extreme. I'm kind of black and white with things. That's what anxiety is. Yeah, and I definitely didn't mean that. I was just so heartbroken by the fact that he would release something that we didn't agree on him releasing
Starting point is 00:43:36 and I just kind of felt ambushed, you know, so yeah. Let's get into a record off the album. What you want to hear? Oh, I guess Boy Bye because that's a real sexy record Off the album What you wanna hear? Oh I guess Boy Bye Cause that's a real sexy record I love that song Lucky Day is awesome
Starting point is 00:43:49 I can't wait to see you On TV and movies too I see that in your future Thank you As well That's so sweet Yeah we need to get with Shonda Rhimes
Starting point is 00:43:56 And do this mini series How to Get Away With Rapping Oh my god Stop it Secret struggle rappers I know It would be brilliant Yes
Starting point is 00:44:04 A little thriller in it Yes Please Well Ari Lennox Thank you for joining us It wasn't that bad I've been waiting. Secret struggle rappers. I know. It would be brilliant. Yes. That's what we're going to do. A little thriller in it. Yes, please. Well, Ari Lennox, thank you for joining us. It wasn't that bad. Thank you. It was beautiful. See that?
Starting point is 00:44:11 Y'all's energy. Wow. See that? And we prayed before we came in here. Yeah. Why you talk so damn much? Because we help you. Why?
Starting point is 00:44:16 Why you talk so much? As a big family. Why you talk so much? Yes. Why do you talk so much? Because I love you. I do feel the peace. You don't love me back?
Starting point is 00:44:23 No, not today. You talk too much. You guys, this is about Ari Lennox, not about y'all's relationship. That's what I'm trying to tell him. No, I love you. I do feel the peace. You don't love me back? No, not today. You talk too much. You guys, this is about Ari Lennox, not about y'all. That's what I'm trying to tell him. No, I just said we prayed together as a family. What are you talking about? Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:44:31 We set an intention before the interview. That's what we did. Thank you. Yeah, salute to Ms. Kelly. Don't date radio personalities either, Ari. I felt that. What you said? So don't ever date a radio personality either.
Starting point is 00:44:40 I promise I won't. Okay. Almost did. I won't. Really? No, no, no. That's all. See, the I won't. Really? No, that's all. See, the interview is about to be over. Now I'm crying.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Tell the tea. No more. You can't do that. That's payola. Yeah, really? Oh my God. Okay, all right. I'll keep that in mind. No, I don't want that. Why are you playing Ari so much? No.
Starting point is 00:45:06 200 spins? In a week? I'll keep that in mind. No, I don't want that. It's Ari Lennox. Why are you playing Ari so much? No. 200 spins? No. In a week? It's Ari Lennox. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Hey!
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Starting point is 00:46:32 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Have grace with yourself.
Starting point is 00:46:52 You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
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