The Breakfast Club - THROWBACK INTERVIEW 2019: PnB Rock Talks Bad Behavior, Fatherhood, Features, New Album + More

Episode Date: September 13, 2022

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Yes, sir. PNB Rock was supposed to be up here a couple times. It's hard to get him to get places. No, that's kept. What happened the other two times? I don't know what was the first two times. I think you got locked up the first time. Okay. That's a good excuse. That sounds like me. The second time, I think

we had to go out of town You got a lot of people that's a good excuse. That's definitely, that sound like me. The second time, I think, I think we were at, we had to go out of town or something, right? It was us the second time. Oh, I remember. I ain't even gonna lie, I probably didn't even hear about, right?

Because they ain't come through, like, I probably didn't even, it didn't get to me. He doesn't even know. You know what I'm saying? Like, it didn't even get to my ears yet. We tried really hard to book PNB Rock

for a lip service live, but they said he wasn't allowed in the venue. Damn. What venue was it? You got banned from a lot of venues at one point, right? Yeah, at one point in time, they had me on some, other you got banned from a lot of venues at one point right yeah at one point in time they had me on some like

when I wrote a lot of situation they were like thinking I was gonna be causing problems at the venue so they wasn't letting me do I was like a lot of my money got stopped around that time has that been smoothed over like is everything good now yeah definitely I mean like a lot of these places we like I'm back on rolling out this time for sure I've been on rolling out for the last time so but a lot of like colleges that took me off, I'm back on Rolling Loud this time for sure. I've been on Rolling Loud for the last time too, but a lot of colleges that took me off, now I'm back on these. This year, you know what I'm saying, I'm back on the stage,

performing in front of the students. It's better. They want to make sure you wasn't a threat. There wasn't a problem. I could be wrong, but I feel like you've matured a lot more in the past year or so. Because it was a time when you was getting in a lot of fights, a lot of altercations,

it seemed like, peeing in hotel rooms. I mean... I'm sure I gave you a don't get a date for that one. Yeah, definitely. I've been don't get a date a couple times.

I peep every time. But I definitely grown, you know what I'm saying? I leveled up, you know, I matured. This is like, sometimes when you go through certain things,

it humble you and it wake you up too at the same time. Well, what humbled you? Was it the fact that you seen other people getting locked up and other people getting into trouble

or the fact that they stopped your money? Those bag stoppers. Yeah, definitely. A lot of, everything that y'all just said, you know what I'm saying? Stopping the money,

the bag stopping, other people, you know what I'm saying? Situations. It just was a whole bunch of stuff going on and personal stuff that's going on in my life

that people might not see behind the doors. But it's like, I had to grow up, you know what I'm saying? It got to a point where I was just moving around. I always wanted to be like I'm regular. I keep everything regular. I move around like I'm still the same, but I'm not the same no more.

I had to get it in my head that I'm not the same PNB rock from PNB, from the trap. I'm on some pop stars now. Your life had to change pretty quickly though, right, coming from Philadelphia? Yeah, I would say. I would say it changed like, it changed quick for me, but you know,

I feel like everybody got their own little story, you know what I'm saying? I wasn't like an overnight success, but for me like having nothing and now I got everything that I wanted in a few years, it was like I would've never thought that I would be here right now. For people that don't know,

explain your story a little bit, because you had a huge streaming online following before you signed your deal. So explain your story, how you started. Pretty much, I started making music when I was upstate. I did a two-and-a-half-year bid up top, and that's when I really started trying to figure out my life. You know what I'm saying?

I was more so like a day-to-day person. I was just cool with going by the day. I didn't really think about the next day or what I was going to do with my life as a whole. But when I got locked up, I had a lot of time to think, you know what I'm saying? What you got locked up for? I did a whole bunch of stuff that led up to me going locked up. I did a robbery. I got locked up for weed.

I got locked up for just violating my probation. And that's basically what it was. I kept violating my probation. They kept giving me chances. I kept coming home, smoking weed, saying, like, I ain't going to go see my PL and all that. And eventually it caught up to kept violating my probation. Like, they kept giving me chances. I kept coming home, smoking weed, saying like, I ain't going to go see my PL and all that.

And eventually, it caught up to me, you know what I'm saying? They was like, you're going to sit you down for a little minute. And I sat down and that's when I started

making music. You said there was a lot of people doing music when you were locked up. Yeah, no, for real. A lot of people was up there,

like, singing. Like, that's what gave me, like, at first, I always knew I had a nice voice, you know what I'm saying?

But I wouldn't think it was cool to sing. Like, doing what I was doing in the streets, you hustling some drugs but some people outside he hear you from I think like none of the people that I was surrounded with was like be cool with me singing this shit like okay oh yeah majority of the R&B niggas was thugs you know I ain't know that even back in the day Joe I saw what they do Nate dog of course we know that we seen him be smart with the golf club. Christopher Williams was one of the most gangster motherfuckers around. Am I lying, Ron, Stu?

You probably never heard those stories. I talked to Andre Harrell. Keith Sweat. Keith Sweat? Oh, my God. Yeah, I would have never known because I ain't never really dig it deep into R&B like that. You know what I'm saying? I mean, I was a fan of it.

I liked the music, but I never really, like, digged into it. Like Teddy Pendergrass. he's from Philly. I just watched his documentary, and he was pretty gangster. That's funny. I didn't really think that it was cool for you to sing, though. When I went upstate and I was seeing niggas up there with life, motherfuckers up there fighting. You know what I'm saying? They up there doing real life shit, you feel me?

And they singing, but it wasn't your traditional singing. They was singing pain shit, shit that they've been through personally like you know what i'm saying it was like different for me to hear that and i i with it i was like oh there's some hard like there's some that and they with like but they was it was more so like older doing it you feel me like i felt like i was more younger i had like came in with more swag you feel me like i was like i'm gonna try with it you feel me i always knew I had a good voice So I used to be jotting my shit down in the pad and myself Then one day I got the courage to go out there That's it hard to go out there and right in front of them niggas like dang

They gonna keep it always G. They ain't singing the yard. Yeah, in fact, they ain't turn her no bullshit That's it. Try it. They gonna tell you this is track Get the fuck out of here with that shit. You feel me? Like, we not even trying to hear that shit. It's a great focus group. Yeah, in fact, I went out there with my shit, and they was fucking with it. Like, to the point where I came out the next day, and niggas was asking me, like, yo, let me hear that joint you said yesterday when you was talking about something, something, something, something. I'm like, oh, all right. So they really fucking with my shit. And they just gave me the juice to come out here and be like, all right, I'm going to

come with a different sound. You feel me? Like, ain't nobody really rapping, singing about this trap shit, about, like, struggle shit, pain shit. Like, I'm going to come on that lane. Do you remember the first joint you sang on the yard you remember what it was about no i really don't but i know it was some like back when i was in jails i usually used to talk about nothing for the it was also like like me talking about like how i used to be homeless and how i like used to be robbing and how i used to be selling drugs and not having food at night and shit like that like I used to sing about shit like that and because everybody

going through the same shit in jail you know I'm saying I used to sing about my bitches not writing me my family not being there for me shit like that yeah I don't think prison would inspire no love songs yeah I mean no you're wrong though you're wrong about that niggas in there niggas in there writing crazy love songs yeah I wrote a few of them, like, not the first time I got locked in, I started writing, but I did a few little bids after that. And I made a couple love songs in a jar. And having a daughter too, I'm sure, that's inspiring. What, do it.

It's like, that was another one of them things that when y'all asked me earlier, like what was a few of the things that helped you open up, like what opened up your mind to tell you to switch it up? Like that was one of them things, like my daughter having a daughter. She five now, but shit, like she she i learned a lot from her every day so when you got home how did you get your deal because you were singing in the yard you got home

so you continue singing in philly yeah and then what was that spark it was like i generated like a quick buzz in like philly jersey delaware type shit like even up here in new york a little bit like motherfucker was fucking with my sound and that was like i was one of the only of the only out there selling cds like still for ten dollars you know what i'm saying i was pulling up on selling my cds for ten dollars was buying six seven eight i'm like any booming and it was just like my sound was going crazy around the time you know what i'm saying this was 2013 2014 you know what i'm saying before like i got signed and while i'm generating all this buzz i'm doing shows i'm getting features i had to show in jersey like atlantic city it was a casino like i was staying

at and when i walked into the casino like i ain't know there's some like for anybody watching this if you didn't know like there's some that they got in the casino called like facial recognition and like i'm a state i was a state felon you know what i'm saying i had a warrant a state detainer And when I went in there Some shit went off In they system I guess You know what I'm saying Cause they alerted them

And they They came straight for me You feel me like I'm I put my clothes up in the room Came downstairs You feel me I'm down there

I'm out to gamble and shit Cause I ain't My show was for like A couple hours later And some niggas in suits Walked up over me And shit like Yeah Rakim Allen

You gotta come with us I'm like I'm trying to play it dumb. I'm trying to figure out how they put two and two together. I'm PNB Rock, nigga. I ain't no Rakim. I don't even know who that is. They're like, no, nigga, we know. We got this picture.

This is you right here. You got your state number on your neck. We know this you. I'm like, what the fuck? They booked me, and when I got booked, that shit just made my shit go crazy. You know when you get locked up, it just made all the shit that you saying like, yo, that's the stamp. You did it. You really talking the shit that you doing.

Sadly, yes. Yeah, so my shit went, I went from like, I ain't gonna care if I had like 7,000 followers when I was doing all this shit. Like my shit was going up every day. But by the time I came home, I only did like six months this time. I had like 27K, you know what I'm saying? Labels was on my ass. My shit was aired on BET, MTV. All this shit was happening while I was in the jails, though.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm just in the jails. Getting fan mail every day from motherfuckers. I don't know, like six and seven pieces of mail every day. That shit was crazy. It was different. Are you named after the rapper, Rakim? Yeah, definitely.

Oh, so you had A$AP Rocky, too? Yeah, thanks. My mom, I mean, like, he must have been the wave during that time. He was. He was. Yeah, definitely. Oh, so you had A$AP Rocky too? Yeah, thanks. My mom, I mean, he must have been the wave around that time. He was, he was. Yeah, everybody on that shit. My mom definitely named me after Rakim. Who inspired you growing up in Philly?

Because Philly is the home of like, spitters. Like, you got real lyricists in Philly. I mean, I wouldn't say a lot of people inspire me, but I was a fan of everybody. Because you know, I never thought I was making music, but I always listened to them niggas. Meek was one of my favorites cuz you know I never thought I was making music but like I always listen to them niggas like me was one of my favorites you know I'm saying like cuz I'm with the new generation shit but of course Beanie Seagull you got niggas like motherfucking Petey Crack young Chris I

like I even go back with Gilly the Kid and all them you know I'm sorry even major figures I fuck with all of that shit like I rock with the whole Philly scene even to nail to the new generation like me uzi tiara whack you know what i'm saying brie stephen i always fuck with the philly sound jill scott music soul child me it's like the roots yeah boys man like this shit go deep like i fuck with this town in philly when you said you always knew you could sing how did you know like did you used to sing before all of that at home or like how did you know you had a good voice like just some regular shit in the shower shit in the crib crib. Like, when some songs come on, I be singing that shit,

like, and my mom be like, man, you sound good, you sound good. I'm like, yeah, that ain't for me.

You feel me? Like, my mom even tried to put me in singing lessons when I was younger. Like, me and my brother. That shit just wasn't for us.

we went to one lesson and as soon as we got in that bitch, we was running around trying to figure out how the fuck to get out. You feel me? Like, for the time we was in there,

like, we just didn't want to do that shit. Why didn't you have a love for it? Because, I mean, you know, and Philly has such a popping music industry. You never thought, like, you know what? I can make it in this game. I ain't never think about it like that. I ain't never really think, like, singer was cool.

I thought if you was a singer, you was soft. Like, you was a singer, like, you ain't into the shit that I'm into. You feel like the people that was around you, right, when you got signed and everything and you've been traveling, doing shows, doing festivals, were they good at kind of keeping you out of trouble or did they escalate things sometimes? Some of the people was great. Some of the people, you know, wasn't good. You know what I'm saying?

Because some of them people, like, was thriving off of that shit. Like, if I do some crazy shit, they love it. Like yeah, you feel me? Like get the cameras out, you feel me? But I'm not, you know, I used to, if you would've seen me last year, two years ago, you would've seen me coming to this bitch, 17 niggas. You heard me?

Like now I'm coming here just me and my manager and one of my young niggas, that's probably one of my artists, you feel me? Like I'm not even moving like that anymore. Like if you come to a show, it used to be 30 niggas on a PNB stage. Now it's just PNB on the stage. You feel me?

It's a whole different switch up. You feel me? I had to weed and see the couple people all my life that was, you know, that shit, motherfucker just ain't for you. How hard is that to do? Because sometimes people act like you changed

when you do that. They're like, oh man. Me personally, it wasn't hard. You have changed though. For what? I definitely changed. But me personally, it wasn't hard though. You know what I'm saying?

Because I've been through so much in my life life whereas though i've been in jail a lot like coming up juvenile all the way to my adulthood and all these situations when i've been locked up i've been in the same area i've been i never moved off my block so that's my family you know what i'm saying my family members even nobody was there for me you feel me nobody wrote a letter sent no mail came to visit me and i did a lot of bids you feel me but it was looking like I looked at it like it was regular like fucking like this is how my people's rocking it is what it is I know when I go to jail I'm in here by myself I got figured the fuck out I don't even call the motherfuckers I might call some bitches just to spend my time you know I'm

saying but even then I know them bitches wasn't for me for me like so it's easy shit for me to be like you know I'm saying, you wasn't here when the nigga was down. And now I already know your angle. You feel me? Like, I already know you when you here with the cool shit. You ain't here when it's really, like, this shit, the nitty gritty. So it's like, I'm one of them motherfuckers that be like, fuck you. And people, they can't be on your team if they recording you doing the bullshit.

Yeah, exactly. You know what I'm saying? Why they recording the fight? Why they recording you peeing? Like, for what? For nuts shit. Like, you gotta. You know what I'm saying? Why are they recording the fight? Why are they recording you peeing? Like, for what? For nuts, shit. Like, you gotta take it and look at shit like that.

Like, damn, brother. Like, you just all with the fuckery. Like, you ain't even getting no money. You ain't even trying to benefit, like, benefit the situation. You just trying. Like, you just in the way. You feel me?

Like, you want some nuts, shit. You feel like you brought some of the singing rap back? Because, you know, we didn't hear it for a while, and then we started hearing it with you and Fetty at the time. I ain't gonna lie. When I was locked up, I was feeling like I was about to be on some shit. Because Drake was, like, the only nigga doing, like, singing,

rapping on some melody shit. But he was, like, small, so, like, pop. You know what I'm saying? Not even pop, just, like, mainstream. You feel me? Like, me, I was on some hood shit, on some nitty gritty. so when I was locked up I heard the Fetty Wap I heard this one already I'm like who the fuck is this like hoved up you feel me like this nigga just he got my whole drip not my whole drip but like we on the same

wave you know what I'm saying I'm like damn this might be like a threat right here like I ain't know another nigga was coming like this you feel me like and then I came home and I was doing my shit and I eventually met Fetty wap because the same person that signed fetty wap signed me orlando wardenburg shout out um he linked us together and we just was cool as or he the one who really told me a lot of advice about the game like about publishing deals about don't sign this about just waiting it out you feel me like he just was a real and i with fetty we made a mixtape i never thought that he would be that cool, you know what I'm saying? Like, he was already lit when I came home.

He was already doing hell. And then A Boogie, too? Yeah, hell yeah. A Boogie, that's the bro. Shout out to A Boogie. You know, I was a little more lit when A Boogie came out. You know what I'm saying? I was a little more lit than him.

So, one of my first shows in New York, I seen A Boogie and his team. They was out there. They was mobbing. Them niggas was bust down. They all had the vape shit on. I'm thinking, like, who'm thinking like who the be i'm supposed to be the star of this like they looking like me and like and then while i'm performing after i perform his come on they playing all his because it was one of their birthdays at the time i don't know who birthday was but i heard my come on like jungle with some heart all his old i'm like this hard like this hot

and i'm not no hater like i what if this hard i'll let you know and that day i left i was all on snapchat banging all his i went on soundcloud looking for that she's like a boogie with the hoodie and then ever since then like his tapped in with me like oh we what you like one of the first that's like a little on that's what it's like you showing love like and then we tapped in we did songs and this was before he even got signed and we just been cool ever since like that's the bro you made a lot of money off publishing right definitely so you gave away you gave away a lot of hit records yeah definitely any records you wish you'd kept for yourself i mean it's it's sometimes why we think like damn if i would have

had that song i probably would have been on some other shit but you know it's different strokes for different folks like you can't really count another nigga's situation and look at it like, damn, I could have been doing that. Because everybody's situation is different. Like, a nigga might come overnight and be doing all this shit that you've been working hard for, you know what I'm saying? And then he could be going the next day, though. You feel me?

This shit is different. So, with me, every song I pick and I give to somebody, it's like, I really sit and think about that shit. Like, is this better for me? Or if this person put it out, would it be like, So with me, every song I pick and I give to somebody, I really sit and think about that shit. Like, is this better for me? Or if this person put it out, would it be like, is it better if that person put it out? You know what I'm saying? For instance, with the Dangerz shit, Meek.

Meek wasn't on that song at first. It was me and Jeremiah and Hitmaker. We made a song on our own, you feel me? And we just wanted a rapper on it. We was looking hard to find a rapper. We probably had, sent it to like two different people. Fab was one of the people.

He laid the verse, but it was laid as shit. I ain't gonna lie. Like, it took a little minutes from the laid the verse. And by that time, by that time, yeah, I ain't gonna cap, but by that time,

Meek had came home and he heard the record and he was interested in the record and he was like, damn, I'm fucking with this shit. Like, this shit hard. And it was just like, damn, what we gonna do?

Like, we gonna sit and wait for nigg and it was like damn what we gonna do like we gonna sit and wait for to be doing it or are we gonna let me with it i put me i said hon this is you bro let me see what you do with this like i don't want no money he's like trying to give me 40 bands for this i'm like bro i don't want no money i don't even want to talk about no business right now i just want you to put this out bro i want you to like i already know what your about to do you know what i'm saying? All eyes is on you right now. Your shit about to go crazy. You feel me? Like, nigga, you out on a two to four right now.

Like, who the fuck did that? You feel me? That's some unheard of shit. So I already knew his situation was about to be crazy, and all eyes was going to be on him, and exactly what the fuck I thought, exactly what happened. Like, if I would have put that song out, me, just Jeremiah, and maybe even Fab, you know what I'm saying? I don't think it would've went number one urban.

Perfect storm. It was the perfect storm. Real shit. He like an A&R also. No, for real. Was that the biggest record you gave away? No, I gave away a bigger record than that. Which was what?

I mean, I ain't gonna say it because I know that artist probably ain't even gonna be feeling that shit. You know what I'm saying? He probably ain't one of them motherfuckers that's gonna want me to say that. I have respect for that. So you a real ghostwriter ghostwriter. No, for real.

I be giving niggas away shit. You feel me? And sometimes it be like, damn, I don't even think, like, I ain't gonna say it, but it's a lot of shit though. You know what I'm saying? I be writing for a lot of motherfuckers.

You feel me? Like, shit get real. So did you know Travstar Turned Props that you wanted to do a double album? You knew that from when you started recording this or was it something that you just said, you know what? I gotta just separate these two sounds?

Nah, I wasn't, I didn't know what the fuck I was gonna do for my album. I started making this album in 2017, like right after I dropped my last tape.

I wasn't really happy with my last tape. I knew I was fucking around with that. It was great. It went great. I was touring for a whole year and a half of it.

But it was me having fun. That was my first time going to the booth not writing no shit. So I was like, nah, I gotta get back on my shit. So I started making all these songs, and I ain't had no direction with this shit. All my shit was sounding the same.

I'm like, no, this ain't it. So I just was like, one day I went on my Twitter, and I was trying to see what the fans wanted. I wanted to see what they was talking about. And they was all saying the same shit. I'm like, no, this has got to be like, this is what it is. They were like, man, we missed that old PNb rock that pain that hard that's so she was crazy yeah new artists i missed the old pnb right two years ago they like man we missed that old pnb

man we want that pain that struggle like you want some selfish you all you doing this thing i'm like oh all right i get it i get it i'm like i could do that that's good i could touch on the track start go back to my old fans it'd be good for them because they could hear that old that old pain they want you know what i'm saying because i'm that voice that can say oh yeah he talking about me he talking about this my life but they gotta understand or this for my new fans too like you get to see why i act the way i act how i move the way i move you know what I'm saying? Because you might hear a song like Selfish and try to judge me like, oh, you cool, you

just singing, you know what I'm saying? Then see a video of me going by with Pissin' in the hotel. You might be like, what the fuck? How the fuck do these two people even correlate with each other? That's why I give you the trap star side. You get to hear me, my struggles, how I came up, how I got to where I'm at, you know what I'm saying, basically. And that's the all nine, that's that side. It's nine I'm at, you know what I'm saying, basically. And that's the all nine, that's that side.

It's nine songs of that, you know what I'm saying. All hard shit, pain shit, struggle shit. Then you got the new me, you know what I'm saying. This is for the people that, for my new fans or my old fans too. Like, this is the new me to level up, you know what I'm saying. I'm a pop star now. I ain't on that old shit. I'm traveling.

I'm getting more money. I'm having fun. I'm not struggling. I'm not in pain no more, you know what I'm saying. And they got to know that, you know what I'm getting more money, I'm having fun, I'm not struggling, I'm not in pain no more, you know what I'm saying? And they gotta know that, you know what I'm saying? It's like, I get that they wanna hear that old shit, but niggas level up. Niggas, I'm not in pain no more, I'm not struggling no more, I'm not gonna keep talking about the same shit.

I don't wanna be in the box, you know what I'm saying? So that's why I said I'm a trap star turned pop star. Does where you from in Philly dictate how you are? Yeah, hell yeah. Taylor, Taylor from Philly. Taylor, come here. Taylor, tell me what part of Philly you think you from in Philly dictate how you are? Yeah, hell yeah. Taylor from Philly. Taylor, come here. Taylor, tell me what part of Philly you think you're from. No, we was talking.

What part of Philly is he from? She's from West. Oh, you know what part of Philly you're from? Yeah. Oh, okay. What part of Philly are you from? I'm from Germantown. Germantown.

So is that Northwest, South? That's Uptown. Uptown. Yeah, I mean, like. What's the difference between you and, you know, West Philly, North Philly? I feel like Uptown. You, I mean like- What's the difference between you and, you know, West Philly, North Philly? I feel like Uptown, you can put it like this, Uptown niggas is known for like they swag and like I guess that's the nicer parts people say. She made a face, bruh.

She like nigga please. She cat man, she know West Philly niggas swag as ass. South Philly West Philly niggas they have bad ass. Oh don't do that. They swag be ass. Don't get dragged into this conversation. Bro shit, why I'ma keep it a thousand. Like Uptown niggas known for the swag and they bad bitches.

West Philly got the bad bitches, I'ma keep it a thousand thousand. Like Uptown niggas known for their swag and they bad bitches. West Philly got the bad bitches I'ma keep it at a thousand but they swag be on a donut. Like they still they still stuck in the pads a little bit. You know what I'm saying? Some West Philly niggas got the drip

but a majority of them niggas be baggy as shit. Swag. South Philly niggas I mean South West Philly niggas be on the same shit. Like they on that

they still gotta catch up. They think niggas wearing tight shit is gay. You know what I'm saying? Like y'all niggas weird but they just stuck in that Southwest shit. West Philly shit.

So where was he from? He from North. North. Yeah, North Philly niggas. Y'all ain't look so confused. They hip. Yeah, they hip. Okay.

Yeah, they hip. South Philly niggas, that's the shysties niggas. You know what I'm saying? That's when you go down South. Me claim North and South. You know what I'm saying? So that's like the nitty gritty. You know, South Philly bitches are lying to you.

That's what niggas be saying in Philly. Like, don't fuck with them South Philly bitches. They'll lie on your ass up. So when you say stuck in the past, you mean like still wearing like baggy state property shit or? No, they ain't wearing no baggy state property shit, but they just like, they not with the fitted drip. You know what I'm saying?

They not with the everything just all super fitted. They want their shit to be like, they probably cool. They probably don't even like the oversized shit yet. They just want their shit to fit like, they probably cool. They probably don't even like the oversized shit yet. They just want their shit to fit them like. Perfectly. What the fuck? How do I say that? What's that shit called?

Tailor? No, like. What? True to size. True to size. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Real shit. What was it like for you when you found out you were having a daughter?

I ain't going to lie. Me and my baby mom's situation was a little crazy. It was like, I just had came out the halfway house and I wasn't, I was just fucking around with everybody. I ain't, I wasn't trying to be like having a girl, none of that shit. You was just fucking cause you been in jail for so long. Yeah, she was one of them. You know what I'm saying? It was like, I ain't think it was even mine because I ain't know her.

I ain't know the situation. I ain't, every time I came around with like, niggas was telling me like she fucked with other different niggas and shit like that. But once I got to know her, once I got to like, I'm like, no, that's mine. You know what I'm saying? It gotta be i got to like i'm like no that's mine you know what i'm saying it gotta be mine because like this is how she carrying it you know what i'm saying like she carrying it different than how she moving around with all these other you feel me like and then when i had the baby i was there you know what i'm saying and i i was like damn i don't know about this one you know what i'm saying like the way she looks she just looked like like a chinese i'm. I'm like, yeah. Most babies probably are. Oh, you didn't get a blood test?

I did. Okay. I called my mom, though. I flagged my mom with no. I called my mom up to the hospital. She's like, oh, no, that's your baby. She want us. I'm like, all right, well, I still won't get the blood test, though.

You know what I'm saying? But I got the blood test and shit. You know, that's me. That's my twin. Most baby moms would trip off that. I ain't getting no blood test. Don't try to play me. Tell me I'm not my ass.

Well, especially if you're not together. What you think she didn't trip? Nigga, I ain't even mention that. But fuck. He. I ain't getting no blood test. Don't try to play me, tell me I'm not my ass. Well, especially if you're not together. What you think she didn't trip? Nigga, I ain't even mentioning that, but fuck. He said, I didn't mention that part. She was tripping.

Are y'all still together now? No, my baby mom, we're not together, but we cool though. I fuck my baby mom. She got her shit on right, you know what I'm saying? Like, she doing everything she need to do for my daughter,

you know what I'm saying? And I fuck with that. How has fatherhood changed your life? A lot. It stopped me from doing dumb shit a lot, you know what I'm saying? Like, especially like reckless shit. Like, I used to fight a a lot you know what i'm saying like especially like reckless like i used to fight a lot you know what i'm saying i ain't used to be thinking like i'm so skinny that i just they could do whatever you know what i'm

saying so i used to love that she's nice skin yeah that too you know what i'm saying pretty boy i used to love that i follow that so i'm with all the goofy but i know now i got something to live for other than me you know what i'm saying like, not even just fuck me is all about her now. You feel me? Like, she not going to eat. She not going to get no clothes. She not going to do nothing if niggas like me and her mom don't get it. You feel me?

And so it just turned my grind up. So what if you start dating another woman? I'm dating somebody right now. Yeah, he's in a relationship now. Maybe my man tripping off that? No, I mean, I don't know how she feel about it't know if she, I don't know how she feel about it, but if she do feel a way, I wouldn't know. Got you.

It's been five years, you know, so you should be fine. What got you to settle down? She be fucking with other motherfuckers too, huh? What got you to settle down? You said you was running the world crazy. Yeah, I saw you on Real 92.3 LA. You was like, it's the first time you've been in love as an adult? No, for real.

I ain't been in love since I was a pup. Nigga, I didn't even think that shit was real. How you know this one was the one? I don't know. It's just like I've been with her for a while. You're looking a little uneasy. See what you bust around. Let's get it out.

I'm trying to see how I explained it. I'm trying to see how I explained it. I felt like I knew it was real because I was fucking with a whole bunch of different girls. You know what I'm saying? At the same time, I was fucking with her. And it was like out of all those girls, she stuck around for the longest. You know what I'm saying at the same time I was fucking with her and it was like out of all those girls she was she stuck around for the longest you know what I'm saying

like I was fucking with her for like a little over a year like a year or some change and I'm never with a girl for too long like you might see me

with a bitch two weeks maybe even that like you feel me like I be I be hating bitches after a certain amount of time well stop calling them bitches

you got a daughter my bad yeah sorry I ain't gonna I ain't gonna disrespect a woman he said bitches all the way to the front of your head and he said girls I'm serious I swear at the front of your head no he said it all the way I swear at the front of your head bitches you got a daughter my baby yes sir i ain't gonna i ain't gonna disrespect you but that's just how i talk like all right that's a habit i always cuss i'm a cussin but and to prove his point you said girls

you said girls when we was talking you said you was smashing a bunch of girls I was fucking around with a whole bunch of girls you know what I'm saying and they really just

was in and out it was like I ain't had no feelings I ain't had no emotions text to them you know what I'm saying I was calling them flying them out

like or hotel this hotel that bitches ain't come to my crib but with her it was different I was just it was like I could talk to her about regular shit you know what I'm saying them flying them man flying them out like or hotel this hotel that didn't come to my crib but with her it was different i just it was like i could talk to her about regular you know what i'm saying a lot about like music or clothes you know what i'm saying just about regular and she was doing with her life you know what i'm saying as opposed to all the other girls that i was messing with this was reaching out you know what i'm saying like she had her own bag you

feel me and she was doing that was on some bossed up i was with that and then it just was like i felt more comfortable with her you know what i'm saying like i just was like damn like this is a vibe and it was starting to get to a point where she was like starting to distance herself from me because she was getting tired of me just around with all these different and i was like damn do i want to lose her or do i want to still around with all these and it was like damn you get to a point where you're like man i'm tired of like seeing everybody else happy like i'm tired of seeing all my all booed up on the face time late night you know what i'm saying and i'm the that's wavy i don't even got that you feel me like i don't even got nobody i could attach myself

to and really like say i with this person i really like want to talk to them all day yeah you know what i'm saying they having three and four girls that they could do this with i'm like damn i can't test myself nobody like i really can't with these girls i don't trust them i don't i don't believe in the the way they act like they feel about me or none of that like i see through all that to be thinking slow i'll be having business say like yeah i never i don't like i don't even know who you are like you know what i'm saying like i just like how you coming. You know what I'm saying? That's game. A couple weeks down the line, I'm like, yeah, I remember when I first heard Selfish.

That was my jam. Like, oh, yeah, I thought you didn't know who the fuck I was. You feel me? Like, bitch, it's all game. You feel me? I weeded through that. Doesn't that mess with you mentally? Because you know these girls don't really like you for you.

They like you for who you are and the position you in. Thanks. But you also don't like like you for you they like you for who you are and the position you in thanks when you got somebody that likes you for them yeah like i mean i feel like i just be thinking i think when i when i see a girl on instagram like i just like what i see right so it's not like you cared either yeah like i just i just see something i like i'm just go go at it but do you run on randoms hell no when you meet these girls i don't never play around you feel me like but when you meet these girls you'll be like damn this machine nothing like that i thought she was gonna be like the way she talk or nothing like she sound different than what she look you feel me like i don't like her i'm just picky as hell like i can't i can't is your girl from philly nah she's

from arkansas arkansas how'd y'all meet instagram Instagram. You don't like Philly girls? Yeah, I like Philly girls, but I feel like all Philly girls, like, they just really know me and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like, they be acting like they, like, if I'm acting like,

He from Uptown. If I'm acting like PNB Rock, if, like, I'm acting Hollywood and sound like, I'm posting, like, nigga, you don't, you seen me glow up on the gram.

You don't really know me. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, they be acting like, they be like, why can't I stop playing with me? Or some shit like, stop playing with you like this is me like what are you talking about like you talking about some old 2015 says you like this is me right now you feel like i'm not egging hollywood i'm i bossed up like i'm supposed to still be on some some some young boys

there's some some skirney like you feel me, dusty young boys. I'm way different now, you feel me? I've been turning my shit all the way up. Are you still on probation? Nah, I'm free man right now. Okay, that's good. Yeah. That feels good. Definitely. With an album, a trap song.

Hold on, how has being in love impacted your music? I've been making a lot more lovey songs lately. For my girl. Aw. It's easy now. He said aw. That's cute. Real's real that's easy like i've been talking about and that should just come out normal like i'm talking about what i'm doing i was always one of those people anyway like i always just talk about like what's going on in

my life you know what i'm saying right now this was going on in my life i'm having fun with my girl traveling blowing that bag you know what i'm saying moving around just having fun so you in love love yeah i feel like i am. You think you proposed one day? Yeah, maybe. You ever thought about it? I always be like, man, I ain't getting married, you know what I'm saying? But I'm older now, you know what I'm saying? It comes a time where you start

thinking about shit like that. And I ain't think about it with her, but I feel like if I was to get married, it would probably be with her because that's who I'm fucking with now and I love her, you know what I'm saying? Did y'all both get locked up together? Yeah. For what?

For what? I mean, I can't talk about that shit right now because it's an open case. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We just got locked up with some bullshit. I didn't even remember hearing about that. You can't get locked up with a side piece when you have a girlfriend. Can you imagine? That was just became my girl too at the time.

So that shit was crazy. You didn't make her take the charge totally? I mean, I can't talk about the case. You didn't know what it was about. I can't talk about the case, but just know, just know we good. We belt out. 100K belt. We out.

You feel me? We out here moving around like ain't nothing happening. Like that shit ain't nothing. Did you squash any of those old beats? Did you reach out to Lil B and be like, man, my bad? I mean, I never reached out to Lil, put it like this. When that shit happened with Lil B, I didn't know nothing about it. I ain't even, I wasn't, that wasn't my altercation. Youcation you know what i'm saying put it like this i'm on the stage with

a boogie we come off the stage i'm having a little interview i just hear all this scuffling niggas rumbling i look over i see my brother rumbling i see eight boogie and the niggas on the ground i'm like what the i'm like oh who the is that i just i ain't think nothing of it i just ran over there and got in the mix i ain ain't ask no questions. But at the end of the shit, I'm like, damn, like, who the fuck was that? We just. What the fuck just happened? Nigga's like, that's Lil B. I'm like, oh, shit.

I fucked with Lil B like this. And it was like, I was like, so what's the situation, though? Like, is smoke with these niggas? Like, what's the problem? Like, what's up? And A Boogie and them niggas was like, man, fuck them niggas. Like, it is what it is. And then I got the call, like,

yo, Lil B and them trying to reach out. And I'm like, I didn't even know my situation for me to talk about it. Like, deal with that shit with them niggas. You feel me? Like, they ain't even my, you feel me? Like, y'all talk about that shit.

And then I seen A Boogie squabbing. And I was like, all right, I'm cool with it. You feel me? Hey, they squabbed it. It's over. Yeah, hell yeah. And then people always be still on my ass about that shit. Like, oh, yeah, I like your song, but fuck you.

You jumped O.B. Like, you know what I'm saying? We can't fuck with you for that. And I was just like, one day, like, probably like two months ago, I was just like, damn, I'm tired of hearing this shit. So I was, I never really, like, listened to none of his old music like how everybody else listened to it. So I was like, let me see why people fuck with this nigga so much. And I was listening, like, the first song that I listened to none of his old music like how everybody else listened to it.

So I was like, let me see why people fuck with this nigga so much. And I was listening, the first song that I listened to, I'm like, oh, I get it. This nigga probably started a lot of niggas waves. He sound like how niggas be sounding on they SoundCloud shit. I fuck with this. And then I screenshot this song that I was listening to and I added it on my Instagram, on my Insta story. And he wrote me right back like love bro like

and i'm like that's it that's your way of saying i'm sorry yeah real i'm like bro that wasn't about you feel me like we need to get something done you feel me like on some like we could work type like did y'all work yet or not yeah nah he just was like love bro like peace like you know i was like who were you afraid of the base god curse at any moment no i wasn't afraid of that shit. I was mad that Travis Scott said some shit, but that was it. What Travis Scott said? He had that whole protect Lil B shit.

He said protect Lil B at all costs. I was like, fuck, you got to do this shit. You just got all these motherfucking... Not everybody that got nothing to do with nothing is involved. You got all your fans coming on my page telling me I protect Lil B at all costs now. Like, what the fuck? Like, they didn't even know about this shit.

You feel me? Like, motherfucker, the only people that knew about this shit was people that was there. You feel me? And you was one of the people that was so happy to be around. He said that shit.

And that shit just went crazy. Like, yeah. Everybody talking this Protect Lil, you feel me? I'm like, damn, what the fuck? So you and Trav good? Oh, hell yeah. Gucci.

His team is my team. You know what I'm saying? So we always been cool. I just didn't feel that shit. I was at Made in America, and they said you got in a fight right in front of the VIP section. Yeah, they keep saying I got into that fight. That was not me. I was not involved in that fight.

I was like, I don't see him. Like, you know what I'm saying? You're going to see me. I'm light-skinned, nigga. I'm tatted. I'm tall, long neck. You're going to see these rad swinging niggas. You feel me?

Like, I wasn't there, bro. Like, that wasn't my situation. Like, put it like this. Some niggas that I know was there, you know what I'm feel me like i wasn't there bro like that wasn't my situation like put it like this some niggas that i know was there you know what i'm saying but i wasn't there fighting i wasn't physically in that altercation like it wasn't me are there any misconceptions about pnb rock yeah i would feel like it's a lot like people judge me all the time but i mean that's all because the shit that i i put out there you know what i'm saying but again those people don't look into nothing but the negative. They only see that shit.

People don't post like all the other shit that I be doing. Like, all the real positive shit that I'm doing out here. Like, I got two fucking businesses like in Philly.

Three now. I got a strip club now too. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I had a burger spot at one point in time. Niggas don't talk about

none of that shit. You feel me? Like, I'm a young entrepreneur. I got my own record company, New Land Entertainment, where I'm signing up and coming artists. I got niggas signed to Universal right now. You know what I'm saying? that shit you feel me like i'm a young entrepreneur i got my own record company new land entertainment where i'm signing up and coming artists i got signed to universal right now you know what i'm saying i got people signed at atlantic like and i'm signed to atlantic too but this is just

young ball that i'm doing that people don't even talk about it's just like they only see nut why didn't the burger spot work out i got strip club club teasers it's called teasers in philly me and tevin yeah me and Tevin Farmer. Oh, okay. Yeah, the boxer. Why the burger joint didn't work out? Man, you know, it's like when you young and you up and coming, pretty like my shit was booming. My business, my burger spot was fucking booming.

It was doing the best numbers. The food was great. But, you know, when you young, you up and coming, you always going to have some hating ass motherfuckers like trying to sabotage this shit. And somebody did some weird shit. Somebody came and shot up my spot on some hating shit. And somebody got killed in my spot, you know what I'm saying? Rest in peace to the kid that got killed.

Rest in peace to Ace. And that shit just was bad, you know what I'm saying? That shit just went down south. And instead of me, like, that was my first business. Instead of me being like, fuck, I ain't doing this shit no more. That and instead of me like that was my first business instead of me like being like fuck like I ain't doing this shit no more like that didn't stop me

like it just made me go harder I'm like fucking now I'm gonna go harder I'm gonna get another spot but I ain't just get another spot I got a fucking bar

with a liquor license this time you know what I'm saying and I got the food still you know what I'm saying and now it's a club you feel me like so that shit

started booming I'm like fucking I'm gonna go over West Philly let me get another one you know what I'm saying started the same thing over there. And now I got this club.

Tejas is my newest venture. Club, Tejas is a strip club. What's up, Farmer? Yeah. Well, congratulations on that, too. Yeah, congratulations. My dad used to always tell me, if you open up a business in your hometown,

don't tell nobody it's yours because niggas will hate on you for no reason. Yeah, people ain't know a lot of that shit was mine, though. People still probably don't know it's a lot of shit. But not anymore. They only gonna know. But yeah, I'm in the cut with my shit. I'm running this bag up. I ain't playing with lot of that shit was mine, though. People still probably don't know it's a lot of this shit. But now they know. Now they're going to know. But yeah, I'm in the cut with my shit. I'm running this bag up.

I ain't playing with this shit. Word. Well, the album, Trap Star Turned Pop Star. Double album. Yes, sir. Double album, yeah. Make sure you pick it up, and we appreciate you for joining us. I appreciate y'all for having me.

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