The Breakfast Club - THROWBACK: Will Smith & Martin Lawrence Talk ‘Bad Boys’ Trilogy, Growth, Regrets + More

Episode Date: September 25, 2022

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Starting point is 00:03:11 And we did Martin so dirty. No, we didn't do nothing. Y'all had me stuck in the elevator for 15 minutes. I said, what's going on here? Now, did you check the weight capacity, Martin? How many people was on the elevator with you now? It was a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:03:26 That's what I'm saying. I've never seen an entourage like this from anybody. And we interview a lot of rappers. It's like a party. So what were y'all talking about on the elevator? I just told them nobody don't fart. I said, please don't do that. Is that the worst when you're on the elevator with people you don't know
Starting point is 00:03:42 because you got to make small talk? Yeah. You know, I'd be like, hey, how you doing? Yeah. Yeah. Ooh, what's that? Oh, no, you just happened to see me? Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:55 So you guys are brothers. You've done movies. You're friends. I want to start. I just want to ask you guys a question. What's the craziest gift that you guys receive from each other, if anything? Craziest gift? And I'm going to tell you why in a second.
Starting point is 00:04:06 It's the craziest gift. Because it's Martin-inspired. That's right. It's Martin-inspired. Craziest gift. We got to give each other some golf clubs. Golf clubs, yeah. You never, you didn't swing a one-time, did you?
Starting point is 00:04:17 You golfed much? Not really. I go out there. No, I golf, but I was, like, trying to get them, because, like, if you played any sport in your life, once you get to a certain age, you know, you're not gonna be running ball, you know got you so but like golf you get to you know, Cross it your friends and you get to do you know You get all of the same kind of energy from golf except you can do it till you 80 got you I was trying to have Marty Ma, but yeah, he ain't take to it
Starting point is 00:04:42 Do you still have him at least? I have the club. You don't got live on it. You don't got live on it. We gifted him. We gifted him. We gifted him his cool. We gifted him his cool.
Starting point is 00:04:53 So it's disrespectful, right? So this is what Charlamagne, my brother, I guess you can call him that, got me for Christmas. It's right behind you. I mean, listen, it's Martin inspired. Gina had got Martin inspired. Oh. Oh. Gina had got Martin inspired. Oh! Oh!
Starting point is 00:05:06 Gina had got Martin something like this on the episode. Oh, wow. Wow. You know what I mean? My wife is a little upset. She was like, what's going on? Why? You know?
Starting point is 00:05:16 I mean. Is that a little disrespectful or what? I'm just asking. I mean, here's the deal. I don't judge a butt by the cover, right? But what was the thinking? What was you going for? He calls me his favorite asshole all the time.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Oh, got it, got it. So an asshole from an asshole. Yeah, so he can have it at home to be reminded of the level of assholeness that he has to deal with. There you go. Okay, I get that. That's not bad. That's not bad.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Gifts like that from each other. Yeah, yeah. We don't send each other that kind of stuff. And then you might want to slap it every night. Boom. That's the whole point. It's like the Apollo law. You're going to put it up in here and mount it and let people smack it when they walk in.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Let's talk bad boys. Now, why did it take so long to put this out and to get this done? Will Smith. This guy. That guy? This guy. No, it had to be right, man. It's, you know, the first bad Boys, what it meant for the culture, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:06:10 It was like, it was at a time, you know, the height of Martin and the height of Fresh Prince. And we came together and made this movie. And it was like, it was an important moment, you know, for the culture. At that point, it was Eddie. Eddie was the black dude that was holding it down. Then we came together and created something. Then we got to the second and I just
Starting point is 00:06:34 didn't want to mess it up. It's like, I want to do a cash grab. Everybody's doing sequels. Let's do one. I was like, no, if we're going to make a Bad Boys, a third one, it has to be deservant. There has to be messages and ideas. We got to be talking about something
Starting point is 00:06:50 and it's not just, you know, blowing some stuff up and, you know, getting paid. I was Larry, of course. I'm not going to front. I was Larry. Because the first and second one, you guys are doing stunts, you're driving through things, you're breaking things. You trying to say they old now? Don't play them. You trying to say they old? You got't play them. You trying to say they old?
Starting point is 00:07:05 You got them right. The knees ain't the same. Stop it, don't you? But Will just said they play golf because they're not going to be running around. Yeah, yeah. Try to switch it up a little bit. We got good stuntmen, though, in this one. So we use them.
Starting point is 00:07:20 We use them this time. And it's different also. There's different technologies and stuff like that. So you can do stunts up to a certain point. What we didn't have in the first movie was face replacement. They do face replacement now. What the hell is that? So I can do a stunt, right?
Starting point is 00:07:38 And then they have the stuntman do the exact stunt that I did. And they can match it and they can replace my face on the stunt man. Wow. Right? So they can just do it. So they can hold a single shot, but they can use the actual face of the actor and you can't tell the difference in the stunt.
Starting point is 00:07:57 So you get to do as much as you or as little as you want. You didn't used to be able to do that before. How much that cost? Yeesh. Yeah. No, no. Hey, there's a budget for it. Yeah, no, no. That's expensive, bro. Speaking of budgets, how does money
Starting point is 00:08:09 work in a situation like this? Do y'all get equal pay? There was a rumor that you was making $10 million more than Martin. Hell no! Okay, it was $11. I'm sorry. Boy, we've been talking for four minutes. You don't go to that shit. Four minutes into the damn interview.
Starting point is 00:08:26 That's it. All right. You know, is we finished or is we done? Okay? You know what? As we get ready for this movie, though, you do research on how Bad Boys started, and I was reading that it was originally intended
Starting point is 00:08:41 for John Lovitz and Dana Carvey. Yeah, yeah. They were the original bad boys. That would have been trash. So how did you guys end up? Well, the script came to me. They presented it to me first, and then they wanted me to pick somebody to co-star with me in the movie.
Starting point is 00:08:58 And my sister Ray brought Will's attention to me, and she said, won't you do it with Will? And I thought about it. So I called Will. He was like the fresh prince. Nah. I thought about it. I called Will.
Starting point is 00:09:10 I said, let's set up a dinner. And Will came to my house and we had a dinner. And after five minutes of talking to him, the rest is history, man. He, you know, couldn't say no. Yeah. No, we had, we literally, it's one of those things, you know, and, you know, you know how important it is in a situation like this to have chemistry. Right. You know, somebody picks up right when you, you know, you go in and you create a chemistry.
Starting point is 00:09:32 The second we sat down, it was there. And, you know, it was it was so perfect that we knew that we wanted to work together. Did y'all know each other back then? We had met. We had met, but we didn't we didn't really know each other like the the bad boys was the first time we actually uh you know sat down and and chopped it up and you know it's you can't you can't fake and you can't buy chemistry right you can't buy chemistry it's like you either got it with somebody or you don't and you know me and this one right here it's like there's so much love and so much respect for each other
Starting point is 00:10:07 that it's just fun to watch, you know, with people that really vibe like that. So, Martin, you never looked at it like you watched the early Fresh Prince and he was used to, I don't know if you remember, but he used to say his lines right before you said it. Yeah, that was a bad look. You never looked at none of that stuff and be like, you know what, I don't know about this one.
Starting point is 00:10:23 No, I never did. I never did. Will does be like, you know what, I don't know about this guy. No, I never did. I never did. Will does great work. You know, and I thought he was great on The Fresh Prince and his energy, the energy he brings. So I just was excited to work with him. I was jealous as hell. I was jealous as hell of Martin.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Really? So I'm glad you're being honest. I was going to ask, who had the better sitcom? What did y'all think? I think that's a matter of opinion. I'm talking between y'all. I was jealous as hell. That was going to ask, who had the better sitcom? What did y'all think? I think that's a matter of opinion. I'm talking about between y'all. That's a tough one. Who had the better sitcom?
Starting point is 00:10:50 We're going to call that a tie. We're going to call that a tie. Do you see what he's trying to do here? No, no. He's trying to really divide y'all already. I just figured out what I'm going to get you for Christmas. Just figured out what I'm getting you for Christmas. Something that you are.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Give him another hand. Maybe the front. Two of them. Now, let me ask you guys this. Do you watch your sitcoms? Because they come on all the time. So I'll be home watching. I was watching Biggie, Martin the Other Day.
Starting point is 00:11:18 I was watching Queen Latifah on The Fresh Prince the other day. And you look back at it and you're like, damn, these people are like, became so huge. Yeah. Even after that. No, the great thing about a TV show, when you do something every week, you get a real chance to like, try people out and put people on.
Starting point is 00:11:35 You know, so with Queen Latifah, we've been friends forever. But on the Fresh Prince, she was like, yo, I think I want to try acting. So we were able to set it up on the Fresh Prince for her to make her acting debut on the show. So it's like when you have something like that, it's like a gym. You know, you get to train and you get to work out and you get to have, you know, people come through. So it was, you know, for me, that was one of the best parts of it to be able to meet people.
Starting point is 00:12:03 And, you know, you have a week to work stuff out and and you know did you find the same yeah i love putting all the hip-hop artists on you know because uh that's what i represented hip-hop so i had a lot of fun with it and uh just everybody that came on we had a lot of fun oh you know well i always thought about the scene with you and uh the late great jamesvery. Yeah. When your father left. Yeah, man. What did you dig into to get that kind of emotion out of that scene? Because even now, if you watch that, your eyes water.
Starting point is 00:12:32 I still feel it. I still feel it. And it's like, James Avery, man, it was like, so everybody on The Fresh Prince was stage trained actors you know so it was like Alfonso starting the show had 15 years of experience coming in so I was the least experienced the tap dance kid yeah you know moon walking into Michael Jackson you know so I went when I when I came on to the show um James Avery was one of the first people that pulled me up and he was like, hey, you know, you got you have real talent. Don't squander it. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:08 And so he never like nothing. He didn't like nothing I did. Right. And I was always trying to get his approval, you know, Shakespearean trained, big command of his voice, you know, his body as an instrument, as a performer. And, you know, so in that scene, it was like the first time that I ever took a real dramatic shot. And James Avery in that scene, and we're doing it,
Starting point is 00:13:32 and I'm trying to get there, and I want to impress him so bad. And the first time in front of the audience, I missed it, and I messed the scene up, and I'm like, fuck, fuck, and I'm losing it in front of the audience. And he looks at said, hey! I snapped in and he's like, he pointed, he's like, use me, use me in this scene. And we went and he said, get it together.
Starting point is 00:13:54 And I settled down and he said, action. And we get, and then ultimately we did the scene and we had the scene that was there and I'm holding him. And when I'm holding him, he whispers in my ear, now that's fucking acting, and I was like you know disappointing him and you yes and no but that's what he was telling me about how to use the actor in the scene he was like use me don't try to find it in you so then when i tapped into
Starting point is 00:14:25 the idea of how bad i wanted to impress him and how much i'm i'm getting in i'm i'm feeling it now it's like when you have those um emotional toolboxes sometimes you slip into i'm i can feel um that that emotion right now and it was like um it was he was the father figure that uh will felt like will me personally felt like i was disappointing him in that scene so i tapped into that and i used my relationship with james avery to find uh that emotion but you know for me it's been it's been a massive uh acting journey hugely on the back of his teachings and his urging of me to always go deeper. How did you guys both get those shows?
Starting point is 00:15:12 And Will, did you feel like, I'm a rapper from Philly, if I cross over, I might destroy my career. Hell yeah. And how did they give you that show? How did that show come together? Well, for me, my manager at the time, his name was Topper Carew. He took me into HBO Hip, and it was called Hip at the time. It was a parent company.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Yeah, parent company. And he took me in to meet Chris Albrecht, and he was like, yo, this guy's funny, and what'd you think about giving him his own show? So Chris was like, all right, we'll try it out. So I was like. Just like that. That sounds really simple. Yeah, he was like, yeah, I'll try it out.
Starting point is 00:15:54 And I was like, oh, shit. The rest was history. Wow. And that was big back then, especially for a black man. For the kind of show it was. For you to be a hip hop dude doing a show. And they said right away that show had good ratings. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:09 And I did all them characters because I really wanted the show to work. And I didn't want it to fail. So I just started doing all these characters to try to push it, to push it, to push it. You know, I was going to ask you, Martin, we live in this era of like pause and rappers saying no homo. When you was doing Shanaynay and you was doing scenes scenes all up on kids, did you ever get backlash back then from your people?
Starting point is 00:16:29 Because nowadays if a guy did that, he'd be like, pause! You know what I mean? Back then it was just funny to us. It was just funny, nah. Did you even think about it at all or you were just like, nah, I just want to make people laugh? I just want to make people laugh. That was it. With each character, that was it.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Martin, has he tried to get you to be more active on social media? Yes. In his own way, yes. He gave me a camera. Use this. Do you have a camera team with your social media? Because you do all types of wild-ish.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Are you considering jumping into because you see, Will, it's been so effective for you. We don't know as much about you now as we do about Will. We didn't used to know as much, but it seems like you like it now. I love it. Right, so you think that would be something good? I'm trying to do more things. I'm trying to be more creative.
Starting point is 00:17:16 This guy has a creative mind, so he's always on there, but I'm trying to find things I could do and bring to the people. So no jumping out the plane for you, Mark? No jumping out the plane or swimming with sharks and all that. None of that. Why, Will? Why? So here's what happened.
Starting point is 00:17:33 So here's what happened. It's a little weird. It's not weird. It's just why. No, no. You got a family, Will. No, so what happened was, and it's funny because it was something like, I've been watching you for a while,
Starting point is 00:17:44 and it's something that I wanted to talk to you about. We'll dive into it offline. But the idea for me is I painted myself into a corner with Will Smith. Right? And I realized that, you know, we have our childhood traumas and we have our experiences, and then we all create these characters that are going to be our characters that defend us in the world. There's certain things we can't do.
Starting point is 00:18:12 There's certain things we can't say. Certain ways we react if people do something, and we create a character that we go out into the world with. Then that character wins some things for us it's like oh we we succeed by behaving this way then what happens you get to a point where it stops working as well and the reason that it stops working is because it's not true really it's not really who you are and then you get backed into a corner it stops working now the question is are you going to be
Starting point is 00:18:46 courageous enough and are you going to be brave enough to kill essentially the character that you've created and are you going to have the courage to live as who you really are and on my 50th birthday when I jumped out of that uh that helicopter over the Grand Canyon, that was kind of my moment for myself where I was like, I'm gonna be who I am, even if it isn't in line with the Will Smith that people think I'm supposed to be. I'm gonna have the courage, and I'm gonna have the bravery to be who I am.
Starting point is 00:19:21 And it's like, I've been watching you for a while, and that's what I was like, that was one of the things I wanted to talk to you about I can see the the the mechanism happening in your mind you're seeing Charlemagne the God as separate from you absolutely and I was like and I was like I want to I can see I looked at a little bit of your book too and I was like you you know I I want you to know who you really are is enough, that the character can die. You can see the evolution. Because I always said I never wanted to be a character show myself.
Starting point is 00:19:52 You know what I'm saying? And I just finished reading this book called The Unapologetic Guide to Black Mental Health, and the woman, Rita Walker, said we have to be willing to let go of who we want people to think we are. Yes, exactly. And that was the thing for me. Me and Jada talk about that a lot, even in the idea of our marriage and how people want us to be married
Starting point is 00:20:15 versus how we're really married. You know what I mean? It's like it's a really different thing, and it's so hard to let go of the characters and what people want to see. Because also those characters saved your life when you were young. Those ideas saved your life.
Starting point is 00:20:32 And made you money. And they made you money. So letting go of that and having the courage to really be who you are in the world, it's terrifying. Will should be a motivational One of your closest friends called you right and he's close friend to us as well He called you and he asked you for a couple million and you gave it you for those millions, you did it too. What was that conversation like?
Starting point is 00:21:06 No, you know, let me tell you something. Me and Tyrese, we've been friends. Now, he's our guy, though. No, no, that's my dude. Tyrese is my dude. It's like Tyrese calls me when he don't want it cut. He want it raw and uncut. And, you know, the amount of talent that dude has
Starting point is 00:21:26 and all the possibilities that Tyrese has is what I keep drumming in with him. Tyrese is functioning at 40% of the capacity of what he really is. You know?
Starting point is 00:21:38 And that's another thing, being brave enough to be who you really are versus, you know, being Tyrese. Exactly. You're right. I was about to say that. Tyrese ain versus, you know, being Tyrese. Exactly. I'm about to say that. Tyrese ain't got to that level.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Tyrese still putting the character out there. Yeah, you know, and we all do. You know, there's still, it's like Will Smith takes good care of me. Will Smith takes good care of me. It's just, it's not all the way me. Gotcha. You know, there's a certain amount of pretense and inauthenticity that it takes to hold up the character. That's so fucking interesting because I think about that with you and Martin.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Martin, I'm sure that it was a time where everybody wanted you to be like, Martin! You know, make it. Martin! But what if that's not you? Yeah, well, it's not me all the time. Like, people think that I'm on all the time. When they see me, they think I'm always going to be joking and all that. But I'm probably a lot more shy in person than I am.
Starting point is 00:22:31 You can't be shy. Believe it or not, I don't joke all the time. I don't talk all the time. I like to listen a lot and just take things in. Martin, this dude is one of the most authentic people that i have ever met you know and you know with his life experiences and with the thing martin is as close to 100 authentic as anybody i've ever met it's no bullshit with this dude you know thank you man i want you to explain the,
Starting point is 00:23:06 you talked about it on Crown, shout out to Ellie Wilson. I want you to talk about the Reggie scene in Bad Boys, right? Because, you know, I'm a father of five, right? But growing up, I'm like, if I have a daughter, I'm doing the same damn thing. Explain that to people who haven't heard
Starting point is 00:23:18 and how that whole situation happened. With Reggie, so he was a young actor. He had never done anything, so it was his first role. So Michael Bay was concerned that he wouldn't be able to perform the level of discomfort that we needed for the scene. So Michael Bay was like, yo, don't
Starting point is 00:23:35 talk to him. He said, I want y'all to be like, pretend like y'all aren't arguing. Pretend like you're not getting on. I just want to get them riled up. So I go and I sit down with the kids so he's first he meeting will and martin so i'm sitting down i'm talking i'm talking and then martin comes up and uh he says hey will you know you stepping on my lines a little bit in the scene i need you to leave a little bit of room so i can you know get my line in there and i was like you need to get in where you fit in
Starting point is 00:24:04 and the kid the little kid is sitting there he's like oh no mart I was like, nigga, you need to get in where you fit in. Dang. And the little kid is sitting there, he's like, oh no, Martin was like, yo, why you acting like that, man?
Starting point is 00:24:10 I'm gonna say, why I'm acting like what? Why I'm acting like what? And me and Martin start arguing in front of the kid and this kid is sitting there like,
Starting point is 00:24:17 terrified. Michael Bay is watching, I'm watching him and as soon as he sees how the kid is terrified enough, he's like, action, action.
Starting point is 00:24:35 And then I go, what the fuck you want? I'm watching him and as soon as he sees how the kid is terrified enough he's like and then I go what the fuck you are I'm here to pick up for real we saw oh yeah we can't talk about it but way. Yes, we've seen them again. We've seen them again. We've seen them again. We can't talk about it, but you will know. You will know. You will know soon. But we've seen them. Why isn't Gabrielle Union in this one? Because she played such a big role in the second one. I just think we took a different story turn. Yeah, it was like there was no spot in the story,
Starting point is 00:25:01 like where would that work for those characters to be in. But we'll definitely, Bad Boys 4. Is that what it's going to be for? Because I see it on IDM, whatever that shit called. IMDB, yeah. But you said it's the last one. Yeah, no, we're going to let the audience decide. After people see it, like, you know, I love working with this dude, man.
Starting point is 00:25:20 And it's like, I'm at the point in in my life where i just i only want to do nothing if i'm not gonna have fun you know and it's like i'll i'll take half the money that it would be as long as you know i i can have fun and you know we come to work keep you to that now you know no we won't no we won't let me ask you this. We were wondering, did Khaled try to get you on the soundtrack? Yeah, we were trying. Just the timing of it. I so wanted to try to jump on there.
Starting point is 00:25:51 We worked together. Ain't he annoying? He was annoying the fuck out of you. No, listen. Khaled is the best of the best, man. Let me tell you. Khaled's cool, man. Khaled's cool.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Khaled was coming to set a month before it was time for his scene. What I told y'all. He was coming to set a month before it was time for his scene. He was coming to set a month before it was time for his scene. It's like, let me tell you, that energy, like, when you hit Miami, you know, you got to kiss the rings when, you know, you hit Miami. You know, you got to shout out Khaled. But he, you know, he was coming down to set. He was, you know, he so loves the franchise.
Starting point is 00:26:25 You know, he loved it. He wanted it to win, and he wanted to do everything that he could do to help us win. I tell kids you have to have a DJ Khaled level of annoyance in order to get things done. No, that's real. I call it, well, I call it fearlessness and relentlessness. Persistence. Yeah, yeah, you got to be fearless and relentless. And Khaled is both of those.
Starting point is 00:26:46 And that type of energy is the energy that cuts through. You can't be quiet about it, and you got to lean on it at all times. Let me ask a music question. We talk about music a little bit. Fresh Prince or Will Smith, who was the better rapper um well i think somebody said somebody said um will smith was a whack rapper but fresh prince was dope it was dope somebody said that where That's where I heard that from. I came out of that hole. But in your personal opinion, who do you think?
Starting point is 00:27:32 No, you know what? In that same thing, there was a certain amount of rawness and unbridled creativity during the first part of my career. And then once I started winning it did kind of narrow the avenues of what I wanted to do it was more important to me to win than to be me you know and you know so there was a there was a there was a certain amount there fresh prince was wild and raw and and um unapologetically right you know himself and then will smith got a little bit more polished and um once you line up a couple of number ones in a row you get that the taste for blood in your mouth and that that taste um uh sort of destroys
Starting point is 00:28:23 the the vastness of your creative mind. I remember hearing you on Rap Radar podcast, and you said that it was a point where you didn't even want to curse. Yeah, well, that was my grandmother. You portrayed an image. Oh, okay, okay, okay. That was my grandmother. For you, in comedy, does that work in comedy, too?
Starting point is 00:28:38 Like, as you get more famous, you can't be as raw, you feel like, as you used to be, because you're still doing comedy tours. I know you got a lot of comments coming out with you but how does that work in comedy i don't um i don't compromise my comedy you know i never did in in the past uh you know when i put out you so crazy they wanted me to water it down and uh give it a r rating and i took a nc-17 right just so i could say what i wanted to say. You're glistening all over your body. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:07 So I don't like to compromise my comedy, and I don't do it today. I just do what I want to do and have fun with it. What's the worst decision that both of you guys made in your career? What's one thing you say, damn, I shouldn't have did that? What's one thing you said that, damn, I shouldn't have did that? Or what did you pass up? Or something that you regret? I made the Wild Wild West
Starting point is 00:29:26 instead of making the Matrix. Yeah, that was a terrible, that was a poor choice as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very poor choice. What about you, boy? I didn't go with him on the last press junket.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Mm-hmm. For Bad Boys too? For Bad Boys. For Bad Boys. He did it by himself. And now that I see what we, on this press junket, all that we got to do and the fun that we had. Why did you go?
Starting point is 00:29:51 Well, it's different. Was that during the wild phase when you was waving the gun on Vantoria Boulevard? No, no, no. It wasn't going to go that way? No, it was just a different time. And, you know, they didn't want to fly me private. I wanted to go private. It's politics.
Starting point is 00:30:10 But I've learned from now, and I will do something different now. Are you still banned from SNL? I don't give a damn. I don't give a damn. It was something with the monologue back in the day. Yeah, yeah. It was too raw for us. I was raw, right.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Yeah, yeah. That's probably an honor. I didn't even know that. You didn't know that? Really bad? I didn't know that. No, but I'm not banned from that. Oh, I thought you said it was a bad.
Starting point is 00:30:34 No, they had banned me from NBC at the time for a minute. They didn't have banned me. That's what they do, man. But then they realized, you know, the way it went down wasn't what they thought. And then they sent me an apology letter. Warren Littlefield, I think, was the president or something. And he sent me a letter apologizing, saying, welcome back to NBC and everything. Did you say, suck my dick, fuck you?
Starting point is 00:31:03 No. Or were you humble about it? No, I just went on the air and read it on you say, suck my dick, fuck you? No. Why were you humble about it? No, I just went on the air and read it on Jay Leno. With comedy now, you see everybody so sensitive with everything. Yes. Would you do a comedy special now? Because I'm thinking like she said,
Starting point is 00:31:18 the water glistening all over your body. I can see people having a problem with that. And you see Eddie Murphy talking about his past comments and saying that he is apologetic now about them. And the question is? Would you have a problem doing a comedy special and doing what you want to do, not care about what you say? Would you curve your comedy?
Starting point is 00:31:35 I probably would think about it a lot more. You know what I'm saying out of my mouth? Just because I have kids now, and I care about how it affects them. But for the most part, I just want to give people what I'm feeling, you know, and that's what I do. How do your kids look at you when you do it? Do they look at you as Martin, the guy on comedy,
Starting point is 00:31:55 like, come on, Dad? Or is it one of those things that you're just Dad? I'm just Dad. Just Dad. I'm just Dad. Daddy, you're so silly. I don't be doing anything. Daddy, you're just silly, Dad. My kids don't know I'm hot. Like, I be trying to. Daddy, you so silly. I'll be doing anything. Daddy, you just silly, dad.
Starting point is 00:32:05 My kids don't know I'm hot. Like, I've been trying to tell them. I feel like he made Icon living. Yeah, it's like Jaden, you know, he made that. I remember when I first heard that, I was like, what the fuck? That record was crazy. And I was like, I find myself, like, I'm at breakfast with, hey, man, yo, you think I can jump on that?
Starting point is 00:32:28 You know? You know, ask a JD. Because I was like, this is crazy. I'll jump on it if I want to jump on it. But yeah, it's like my kids, my kids, yeah, they just, they think I'm silly and I can't get them to see I'm hot. I wanted to hear you on Smile Bitch by Lil Duval. Living My Best Life. Ah! Because I mean, if you you on Smile Bitch by Lil Duval. Living my best life.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Because I mean, if you look at the gram, you are the person living they best life. No, I'm definitely living my best life, man. It's like when I jumped out of that helicopter, my whole, I hit the next phase of my life in a way that this last year has been the best year of my adult life. When he jumped, I thought the movie wasn't going to happen.
Starting point is 00:33:07 I just said, oh, damn it. Then they said he was swimming with sharks. I said, oh, damn it. Well, I heard you once say, Will, that there's nothing your wife could do, Ms. Jada Pinkett Smith, to break up the relationship. As a husband, how do you know that? No, we've been wildly tested.
Starting point is 00:33:28 We have tested each other. We have tested our commitment to the partnership. We've tested our commitment to our family and you know there's a certain amount of of let's say battery that you have to subject each other to in in in order to know that you're really down you know and you know it ain't nothing i'm talking about on the breakfast club but tune into red table talk guys whatever your whatever your next question is whatever your next question no i could because i've been watching you i know your ignorant patterns you got the setup you do the setup and then your eyes do this little thing and you sit back you put
Starting point is 00:34:21 that you put an innocent face on and you lob one out and then you come with the one that you don't have that ain't none of your business no i just i just i just wondered did you ever uh were you ever jealous of the love jada had for tupac uh oh yeah oh my god that dude and you know and that was in the that was in the early days yeah that was in the early days and it. That was in the early days. And it was like, that was a big regret for me, too, because I could never open up to interact with Pac. Because we had a little bit of a thing, right? Because they grew up together, and they loved each other,
Starting point is 00:35:03 but they never had that you know they never had a sexual relationship but they had come into that age where now that was a possibility and then Jada was with me you know so you know Pac had a little thing on that um but she just loved him like he was the image of perfection but she was with the Fresh Prince you know so it was like I just I never could like even we were in a room together a couple times I couldn't speak to him you know and you know he wasn't gonna speak to me if I wasn't gonna speak to him but no that's what Jada would say all the time she was like I'm telling you y'all are so similar you will you love him and I just never you
Starting point is 00:35:42 know that that that was a huge regret of mine. I just didn't, I couldn't handle it, you know. I was the soft rapper from Philly and he was Pac. Right. You know what I mean? Well at least he didn't do a diss song about you or nothing. I know, right, exactly, exactly.
Starting point is 00:35:56 But yeah, no, I was deeply, deeply insecure and just, I wasn't man enough to handle that relationship. They got to go guys. I just saved you. We out of the relationship stuff. Do either one of y'all feel like y'all got something to prove? Now? Yeah, right now.
Starting point is 00:36:20 I don't feel like I have anything to prove but I'm not finished. I feel like I got so much more to do. Because, Will, they give you a lot of shit. Like, they talk about a cold streak you're having at the box office. And, you know, it was like one time you was guaranteed blockbuster. I'm like, does that stuff bother you? You know what?
Starting point is 00:36:38 I have transitioned from my material world journey to my inner journey. And not in a weird way, just in a way, is I got to be okay with me. I can't give a fuck what anybody thinks. And it's like, I don't even look at the box office anymore. I don't even want that in my mind, comparing myself to what other people are doing. And I had a brief moment there where I got stuck on the rock, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:08 and he doing all these billion dollar movies and I got stuck in and that, that animal woke up again. But I was like, you know what? It's like, um, I realized there's never enough. You'll never earn enough money. You'll, if you stick yourself on sex, you'll never have enough sex. You'll never have enough of anything in the material world. So I'm in my space now where I'm letting go of that. And I just got to be good with me. I got to walk around happy and comfortable with me no matter what the fuck nobody else think.
Starting point is 00:37:38 You know, and that's where I'm at right now. Kind of detoxing my addiction to numbers and wins and comparison. That's why because you're Will Smith and you're Martin Lawrence. Like there's no you should be in competition with nobody but yourself. Martin, has Netflix approached you about doing a special or a series? Because you have the tour, you have all the comics, you have yourself. Not yet, but I'm sure I could do one if I wanted to with them and everything. But I don't want to just do one just to do one.
Starting point is 00:38:03 I want to do one that's special, that has some... Because I feel like you need to do a whole thing. I mean, you were Mr. Def Comedy Jam. You could have, you know, bring up some other up-and-coming comics, put them on, and do your own thing. Yeah, and maybe the Lit Tour. We may bring the Lit Tour to Netflix. All right.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Well, we appreciate you guys for joining us. We didn't even get to talk about a lot of good stuff. No, keep doing what y'all doing. Thank you, man. We we appreciate you guys for joining us. We didn't even get to talk about a lot of good stuff. No, keep doing what y'all doing. Thank you, man. I listen and... We watch y'all all the time. Yeah, it's a really unique voice and, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:32 you give voice to people that would be voiceless otherwise, you know, so just, you know, I love what you're doing and I've been... Dude, you know, you got another gear
Starting point is 00:38:43 and I'm looking forward to seeing what you go to. Thank you, my brother. And you guys can take that ass with you on the floor. It's a party game. You guys can have that. What's crazy, though, is it has the balls, too. I did that on purpose.
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