The Breakfast Club - Tickle Fight (Lucas Brothers interview)

Episode Date: April 14, 2021

Today on the show they had comedian/actors the Lucas Brothers come by where they spoke about recently writing for "Judas and the Black Messiah" movie, new projects and more. Charlamagne gave "Donkey o...f the Day" to a man that couldn't control himself when it came to Tickle me Elmo and Angela Yee helped some listeners out during "Ask Yee" with a discussion popping up about checking your partners phone. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:00:16 What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. We need help! That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts
Starting point is 00:01:25 that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm talking right now. You're about to experience a morning show unlike any other. Shout out to the Breakfast Club. I hope to see y'all in here tomorrow. What you guys are doing right now is the hub culture. The Breakfast Club is my morning sit. I need it and I love it so much. I feel like you're really not popping until you do the Breakfast Club. I've been waiting to come to y'all's show, man.
Starting point is 00:02:00 I know you got to be a big time celebrity to be up in here. You got to be big time. DJ Enzi, Angela Yee, and Charlamagne the guy the Breakfast Club bitches Good morning USA yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, good morning, USA. Yes, it's Wednesday. It's hump day, middle of the week. Good morning. What's happening? Good morning to you. What happened to A-Town, man? Good morning to A-Town. A-Town still on your streets?
Starting point is 00:02:51 We spoke about that. Remember the movie he just did? Oh, he did a movie? And everything. We talked about it on the air. Then he hit us up. Yeah, it was like a couple months ago. It was like six or seven months ago.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Oh, I didn't know he did a movie. Okay. All right, let's move to A-Town. Man, I was riding in this morning, man, listening to that Miguel four-pack. Okay. That Ardilla Cheek. Drop on a clue. What's that word called?
Starting point is 00:03:10 Cheek? Cheek? Yeah. Cheek. C-H-I-C? Volume four. Man, drop on a clue bombs for Miguel. Man, I love Miguel, man.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Miguel is incredible. And then, you know, your title playlist just goes on, you know, random songs. And he started playing all type R&B records. So they started playing old Miguel, like How Many Drinks in the Dawn. Then they played Chris Brown, Back to Sleep. Then they hit me with Ari Lennox and Queen Naja. Then they came with Beyonce, Drunk in Love. So you horny this morning.
Starting point is 00:03:36 That's what you sound like. I'm not horny. I feel good. Okay. I feel good. Okay. That's what R&B does to you. It makes you feel good.
Starting point is 00:03:42 All right. And I feel, you know, never mind. What? Say it. That's what R&B does to you. It makes you feel good. All right. And I feel, you know, never mind. What? Say it. No, we were having a debate on the Brilliant Idiots podcast about Rihanna versus Beyonce. And a versus. 20 songs, 20 songs.
Starting point is 00:03:57 I think Beyonce got it. Yeah, I said Rihanna at first, but I didn't say it with much confidence. But, yeah, you can't bet against Queen B. No. I mean, I'm a pick at Smith Winfrey, Nose Carter, but you know, when you start hearing the drunken loves and the loves on top, like Rihanna got 14 number ones. I think she got the fourth most number ones ever, but
Starting point is 00:04:13 Beyonce got a lot of cultural smashes. Absolutely. So does Rita, but I don't know if it's as much as Beyonce. Does Beyonce go in the Destiny's Child catalog? She would probably have to, yeah. I mean, she wouldn't have to, but she probably would. If she did, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Yeah. But I'm fresh off jumping out the car listening to Surf Boy, too, though. So that's, you know. I'm a prisoner of the moment right now. That's your thing, Surf Boy? You know, that Drunken Love. Man, I used to play Drunk In Love so much up here. I used to come here every day listening to Drunk In Love.
Starting point is 00:04:52 And we used to be in here surfboarding. Don't lie, Envy. Who's we? Me, Envy, and our old board up, Envyzy, Marinel. Well, guys, cover your butts this morning. Ain't got nothing to do with butts. Why everything got to do with butts up here? Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:05:08 My goodness. Now, front page news. What are we talking about? Well, let's talk about this Johnson & Johnson vaccine. They have paused the use of that vaccine over blood clot concerns. In Harlem, they pause Johnson's all the time. If a man says Johnson at Harlem,
Starting point is 00:05:23 they pause it all the time, okay? All right. Well, this is for you, bae. Go ahead. Hey! Drop one of Clue's bombs, goddammit! Let's go! That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:05:35 That's how you start the morning. Our beautiful bodies grinding up in that club. My goodness. Drunk in love. We be all night. Hey, hey, hey. Let me know when you're done. Hey, hey, hey.
Starting point is 00:05:54 First of all, nobody likes it like that, okay? Let me know when you're done. I need you to be into it, too. I need you to be into it, too. Let me know when you're done. I wish you guys could have seen him serve. That's where we at. All right. Okay, I need some intimacy back. What's wrong. Let me know when you're done. I wish you guys could have seen him serve. That's where we at. All right.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Okay, I need some intimacy back. What's wrong with you this morning, man? No more R&B music for you on the way in. I've been drinking. Let's get some front page news. This guy, man. Where we start, Yee? Well, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Starting point is 00:06:20 and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration are recommending that the U.S. pause the use of Johnson & Johnson's COVID-19 vaccine. They said there were six reported U.S. cases of a rare and severe type of blood clot. One person is currently in critical condition. Another woman died. The six reported cases were among the more than 6.8 million doses of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Now, what if you got that vaccine? Should you be concerned? Here's what Dr. Fauci has to say. It appears that this adverse event occurs within between six days and 13 days. So if you're beyond four weeks and you've had it a month or two ago, I think you really don't need to worry about anything. If you are in the time frame of within a week or two of having gotten vaccinated, this is a very rare event.
Starting point is 00:07:09 It's less than one in a million. Oh, shut up. You still want to be alert to some symptoms such as severe headache, some difficulty in movements, or some chest discomfort and difficulty breathing. But like they said, one in one million people. Can you believe that? Stop listening to them people, man. Yeah, come on.
Starting point is 00:07:27 I mean, from six people, you think they'll pause the whole time. Exactly. Stop listening to them people, man. But what they are saying is that if you feel any of those symptoms, like headaches, abdominal pain, leg pain, shortness of breath
Starting point is 00:07:39 within three weeks after vaccination, then please contact your healthcare provider according to the statement that has been put out now. As far as the effects on women, it feels like it could be something how like birth control pills are related. Is it hormonal? Here's what Dr. Fauci had to say. These are women of childbearing age. Does this suggest that it could be hormonal? Absolutely. And that's one of the things that we want to investigate. There have been similar types of phenomena that have occurred during pregnancy. Clotting abnormalities are known in women who take birth control pills. So certainly there
Starting point is 00:08:17 could be a hormonal aspect to this. Hey, man, I'm going back to what all the doctors told me last fall. They all told me just wait at least a year if you can. They said when that first batch of the vaccines come out, don't be in a rush to go get them. This is what doctors told me, doctors that I use. Not just black doctors. These are white doctors too. It's funny.
Starting point is 00:08:37 All six cases occurred among women. All six cases occurred. Got you. All six of these cases occurred among women between the ages of 18 and 48, and symptoms did occur six to 13 days after vaccination. Now, you guys brought up vaccine hesitation. Here is what Dr. Fauci has to say about that. Will this fuel vaccine hesitancy?
Starting point is 00:09:00 Well, certainly that is a concern. The question that is often asked, does this have anything to do with the other vaccines, the mRNAs from Moderna and from Pfizer? You know, absolutely not. There's no negative or adverse or red flag signal coming from any of those vaccines, which is very good news. In other words, they are very safe. What I don't understand is with all these vaccines out there, shouldn't they pretty much have the same thing in them because they're fighting the same thing shouldn't shouldn't it i don't know ask dr fauci since you believe in him so much i mean i don't i believe in the doctors and what the doctors are doing he's a doctor well my doctors my doctors took
Starting point is 00:09:38 the vaccine i took the vaccine my parents took the vaccine my wife took the vaccine my daughter took the vaccine we all all right you know i My daughter took the vaccine. We all all right. You know what I mean? But you don't know the long-term impact. You know, the CDC is examining the case of a woman who died after getting the Johnson & Johnson vaccine in Virginia. She was 45 years old. Well, we don't know the long effects of actually getting COVID either. So it's, you do it if you do.
Starting point is 00:10:01 That's true. But I know one thing. You can't recall a vaccine after it's in your body. I know that much. Yeah, but I don't after it's in your body. I know that much. Yeah, but I don't think it lasts. I think it lasts up to a year. With the vaccine? Yeah. So you gotta get it again? That's why you have to get it every year. Just like the flu shot.
Starting point is 00:10:16 I don't get that either. Alright. Well, that is your front page news. I haven't gotten that either. Okay. Alright. Awkward't gotten that either. Okay. All right. Awkward. Get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:10:28 800. Play some more R&B, man. I need him more hype, man. What you need? 800-585-1051. Throw that Chris Brown back to sleep on for the screeds one time. Throw that Chris Brown back to sleep on for the culture. Don't play with him looking at me like that. Do not play that record, man.
Starting point is 00:10:40 All this talk of Johnsons. Get it off your chest. Where's the Johnsons and Johnsons? This guy. Johnsons on Johnsons. 800-585-1051. This guy is horny. Get it off your chest. It's the Johnson's in Johnson's? Johnson's on Johnson's. This guy is horny. Get it off your chest. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country.
Starting point is 00:11:01 I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There's 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia.
Starting point is 00:11:14 I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I create my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up
Starting point is 00:11:27 their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder you know with explosive warheads. Oh my god. What is that?
Starting point is 00:11:34 Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape
Starting point is 00:11:42 from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally
Starting point is 00:12:19 that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself.
Starting point is 00:12:39 You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series,
Starting point is 00:12:59 The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout. Well,
Starting point is 00:13:25 that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real inspiring stories from the people, you know, follow and admire, join me every week for post run high. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted,
Starting point is 00:13:44 pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to post run high on the I heart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're man or blessed, we want to hear from you on the breakfast club. So if you've got something on your mind,
Starting point is 00:14:03 lay it out. Hi, this is Shantana. Hey, good morning. Get it off your chest. So I work in the ER. I'm not a nurse nor a doctor. I'm just registration, but I work in the ER. So my opinion with the vaccine, when people get the vaccine, of course, we all know that they are not approved by the FDA nor Medicare.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I saw that. I saw that. So that means people are... I saw that. I was wondering... So that means when people are getting these vaccines later on down the line, an insurance company is going to ask you, did you ever get that vaccine? And that's going to give you a situation. The Medicare or the insurance companies are going to decide if they're going to increase
Starting point is 00:14:43 your premium or not cover you. And that's the same with Medicare because all vaccines or medications have to be approved by FDA and Medicare. Well, let me ask you a question. I keep hearing people say the FDA didn't approve these vaccines, but is that true?
Starting point is 00:14:57 Because how can they pause the vaccine if they didn't approve it? Well, it's an emergency vaccine. So that's two different things. Emergency and approval is two different scenarios. So the FDA approved the vaccines because there's studies regarding it, like the flu shot, there's years of studies, which is vaccine is just a study.
Starting point is 00:15:20 So, like, say, for example, when you get 65 years old, Medicare asks you certain questions like, is the government paying you for a research program for a vaccine or medication? Well, you get that when you're 65. They should be asking that now and paying us that now, but they're not. So, technically, this round of vaccines is all a bunch of guinea pigs. But you know what? It does say, I looked it up.
Starting point is 00:15:43 I went on the website, the FDA.gov it says the FDA has authorized three COVID-19 vaccines for emergency use, right? That's what she just said. But only for emergency use. It's for emergency use. But it's not approved. Because you can't use it still in ages 12 to 15.
Starting point is 00:15:59 It's not approved for ages 12 to 15. So for emergency use, what does that mean? Because it's still approved, right? It's an emergency. I don't know. This is for the experts. That's exactly why I'm not taking that vaccine no time soon. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:16:13 This is K from Houston, man. What's up, bro? Get it off your chest. So there's two things I want to get off my chest. First of all, Houston, man, we got to get it together. We don't work together as an artist. We don't do anything together like we're supposed to. Houston?
Starting point is 00:16:29 There's only one radio station. I'm not going to say the name of the other one, but they've been Trader Truth. Yes, we know that. The box. The box has been Trader Truth. Yeah, thank you for saying that, Charlamagne, by the way. Charlamagne, by the way, I wanted to bring something up because nine years ago you said something about Mr. Steve.
Starting point is 00:16:47 And lately you've been passing out butt cheeks, man. I don't understand exactly what's going on. But, hey, you said Mr. Steve be free. Passing out butt cheeks. And you have been acting accordingly, sir. I'm free. I've been free. You said you passed your butt cheeks.
Starting point is 00:17:01 You've been passing out butt cheeks. That sounds so crazy. I have not passed out my butt cheeks, sir. You'll get a butt cheek. You'll get a butt cheek. Okay. I gave Envy a replica of some butt cheeks, but I haven't passed out mine. You are the Oprah Winfrey of butt cheeks out here, man.
Starting point is 00:17:15 You are the Oprah Winfrey. Thank you, brother. You be safe out there. Get it off your chest. That's funny as hell to say you're the Oprah Winfrey of butt cheeks, because you just think of a big old. This guy's crazy. 800-585-1051.
Starting point is 00:17:30 If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Yo, this is Jamito calling from North Carolina. What's up, bro?
Starting point is 00:17:47 Get it off your chest. Hey, man, I just wanted to spread a little bit of positivity this morning. That's all. What you got? What you got? I'm blessed back to Hollywood, as my uncle would always say. There you go. All right.
Starting point is 00:17:58 I want to thank God for my life, health, and strength. I'm doing well today. I can't complain at all. My family's doing okay. Okay. And I just want to say that I'm praying for this country during this pandemic, the people that have lost their lives to COVID, the people that have lost their lives to police brutality,
Starting point is 00:18:12 the people that have lost their lives to the mad shootings that have been going on these last couple of months. And this country needs a lot of healing, and this country needs for our officials to step up and do what they need to do in order to make things better. Well, that ain't happening. You ain't even got... I feel you on that one. I feel you on that one, Charlamagne. Yeah, Rome
Starting point is 00:18:33 has fallen, sir. Hello, who's this? Hi, this is Karma calling from Atlanta. Hey, Karma. That's your real name? Yeah, that's my real name. Damn. Hey, I just wanted to get off my chest. Charlamagne, you just really helped me. I just recently lost my dad, and I recently lost one of my little fur babies.
Starting point is 00:18:57 And when you talk about mental health, it just made me realize that I actually have to take it into consideration. I suffer from anxiety. I already suffer from depression. And when just hearing about you talk about how you were able to just sit down with your therapist and just get it out the way and how you feel so much better, I actually decided to just take the first step. And I hear y'all talk about Talkspace so much. And I signed up and
Starting point is 00:19:25 I'm gonna try so hard not to cry but no cry feel your feels cry let it out it's fine just want to thank y'all because everything has been so difficult and I'm trying to start my business and I just feel like I have been at a roadblock and it's just I just want to say thank you thank you so much well we sending you a lot of healing energy this morning a lot a lot a lot of healing energy man and understand
Starting point is 00:19:54 that's what life is about you know I always say I don't feel like there's anything a good experience or a bad experience it's just one long process that's all life is one long process but you i promise you you will be fine when it's all said and done and well just one more thing um y'all are the best just keep doing what y'all doing and i'm only 23 and y'all are in front every single day so i love you i love you too thank you so much thank you so much
Starting point is 00:20:25 thank you she's 23 that means she's been we've been on the radio since she was 13 13 years old that's right
Starting point is 00:20:32 lord have mercy get it off your chest 800-585-1051 if you need to vent you can hit us up at any time now we got rumors on the way E
Starting point is 00:20:40 yes and let's talk about Bobby Brown he is on the Red Table Talk the episode comes out today and we'll tell you what the topic of discussion is. All right, we'll get into that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, next hour, the Lucas Brothers will be joining us. Lucas Brothers. They wrote Judas and the Black Messiah. Yep, co- us. Lucas Brothers. They wrote Judas and the Black Messiah. Yep, co-wrote and co-produced Judas and the Black Messiah. They're twins.
Starting point is 00:21:11 They're comedians. They wrote a bunch of things. They have a special on Netflix. Yeah, two talented individuals. I first met them back in the day when they were writing for Friends of the People. All right. Well, we'll talk to them next hour. But let's get to the rumors.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Let's talk Bobby Brown. It's about time. What's going on? Rumor Report. Rumor Report. This is the Rumor Report. Talk to them. With Angela Yee
Starting point is 00:21:34 on The Breakfast Club. You know, one thing people say a lot is, how does Bobby Brown deal with everything he's had to deal with, with all the tragedies in his family? Well, he's on the Red Table table talking that episode is coming out today. It's been five months since the unexpected death of his 28 year old son, Bobby Brown Jr. And in the upcoming episode, he's basically talking about addictions and controversies that have followed him for
Starting point is 00:22:00 decades, the tragic death of his son and who he thinks is responsible for the deaths of his ex-wife, Whitney Houston, and his daughter, Bobby Christina Brown, as well. Here is the teaser. These kids today, they're trying different things. They're trying to get as high as they can possibly get. That's a real problem because they don't know what these drugs are being mixed with these days.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Right. There's been so many deaths specifically with fentanyl. There's murderers out there right now that are creating these synthetic drugs that are killing these kids. It's like they're committing murder. Yeah, that's going to be a sad one to watch. And the episode is entitled An Urgent Warning from Bobby Brown. Yeah, I stand on the fact that, you know, the best messaging is just say no. And that right there is just another reason to just say no.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Like they got GMO drugs. It's not the organic, holistic drugs that we grew up on. OK, trust me, being able to go to, you know, facilities in other countries and do organic pure drugs, that's a privilege. So I would encourage folks to, you know, get help with their addiction as opposed to encouraging them to find safe spaces to do things that we know is going to kill them here in America. Just say no. But we also know addiction is a disease and we don't want to shame people who are struggling with addiction either.
Starting point is 00:23:22 I'm not, I just said we should encourage folks to get help with their addiction. That's what we should do. We should put more money into the treatment. Right. You know, but just saying that campaign's been around since before we were born, and clearly it's not working. So we got to make sure that there's all different avenues
Starting point is 00:23:37 to get people help that they need. I can't say it's not working. I can't say it's not working. I mean, you can see people are still using drugs. It's easy to tell people don't use drugs if people are using using drugs. It's easy to tell people don't use drugs. People are using drugs, right? We have to continue saying don't use drugs. You can't say, hey, use drugs, but just make sure that, no, don't use drugs.
Starting point is 00:23:52 People used to say don't smoke weed. Now weed is legalized. It is, but it's still a lot of people who don't smoke weed. It's a lot of people who don't do drugs. Right. But now weed is regulated, right? All right. I've never heard weed killing anybody. Have y'all? I've never heard of somebody ODing on weed. But now weed is regulated, right? I've never heard weed killing anybody, have y'all?
Starting point is 00:24:09 I've never heard of somebody OD'ing on weed. Imagine if you don't know what it's mixed with. Ma'am, ma'am. What you're getting straight off the street. That's right. Refer to me as ma'am from now on. Be respectful. All right, ma'am. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Y'all have no understanding of nothing that goes on. All right,, Will Smith. No, ma'am. Does not like Georgia's controversial new voting laws. And Will Smith and Antoine Fuqua have pulled the production of their new movie, Emancipation. And that's in response to those voting laws and voter suppression laws that are happening in Georgia. So they felt compelled to move their film production work from Georgia to another state. So they're the first company that has said,
Starting point is 00:24:47 the first production that has said they're not going to do something in Georgia because of this. As you know, there's been talk of protesting. They said at this moment in time, the nation is coming to terms with its history and is attempting to eliminate vestiges of institutional racism to achieve true racial justice. We cannot in good conscience provide economic support to a government
Starting point is 00:25:06 that enacts regressive voting laws that are designed to restrict voter access. So they're out of there. That is a tough one. Because I know a lot of people that work on those movie sets and even with the baseball, the major league, I know a lot of people that work on the stadium are our community, are
Starting point is 00:25:23 black folks and minorities. So the fact that they pull them from there are we really hurting ourselves i don't think those big brands really care they got enough money to survive but what's really hurting is the fact that we can't work on those movie sets we can't be runners we can't do food we can't be actors or actresses like that hurts us a lot more i think yeah i think i see what you can in another in another city but it just won't be Atlanta people. It won't be Georgia people. Right. If they move to New York, it'll be New Yorkers working.
Starting point is 00:25:49 It won't be Atlanta that needs it. You know what I mean? It's mostly minorities in Atlanta. Yeah, I don't have any proof to back this up, but I do think it hurts us more than it hurts white people. Because there's a million other industries in Georgia. Film used to be the number two industry in Georgia. I don't know if it still is, but it's not like white folks are going to
Starting point is 00:26:05 pull out. So I feel like we are the ones who end up losing jobs and opportunities, but I don't know. All right. Now let's talk about The French Prince of Bel-Air. Bel-Air is the new show, but it's not a reboot. During an exclusive interview with E! News, Alfonso Ribeiro
Starting point is 00:26:21 describes the new series. He said it's a reimagining of the original Fresh Prince. Andiro describes the new series. He said it's in a reimagining of the original Fresh Prince. And he said the new series will be a whole new look at the idea. He said we sometimes throw a lot of things into one word, one concept. A reboot would be taking the actual show and characters and bringing it back. This is a totally different show. He said, for starters, it won't be a fun-loving family sitcom. Instead, it's a dramatized take on the story told
Starting point is 00:26:45 in the iconic theme song from The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. He said it's based on the theme song. It's completely different. So is it a prequel? Is it when Will was living in Philly and he was getting in trouble, which caused him to be shipped to Bel-Air in the first place? Well, what he's saying is it's a whole new show and it's based on the theme song. So I don't know, but it's a drama. So it's not even a comedy and it's a whole new show and it's based on the theme song. So I don't know, but it's a drama. So it's not even a comedy and it's a whole different concept. Yeah, because in the theme song, he was living in West Philadelphia. He got into a fight with some people.
Starting point is 00:27:16 His mom got scared and shipped him off, which is actually dope, right? Because you would have to dig deeper. Because I'm like, just because of a fight, you got shipped off to Bel-Air. It had to be something really intense and serious to ship them all the way across the country. Yeah, so it's basically his journey from the streets of West Philadelphia to the gated mansions of Bel Air with a reimagined vision. They said it'll dive deeper into the inherent conflicts, emotions, and biases that were impossible to fully explore in a 30-minute sitcom format. Ready for that? All right, now DMX, his versus challenger snoop dogg was actually on fallon
Starting point is 00:27:48 and he was talking about some of his memories of dmx he talks about meeting him back in 1994 before most of the world even knew who's who uh dmx was and uh here's some of the the stories that he told on Fallon at a concert 19 I think it was like 90 94 yeah and then we went back to the studio after that he brought up a story that was so deep and instrumental to our relationship he was like when he first met me I was like away from him and he was saying what's happening what's up and I was like get at me dog and he was like I took that and I made that into my song get at me dog because the way you? What's up? And I was like, get at me, dog. And he was like, I took that and I made that into my song, Get At Me, Dog. Because the way you got at me and said that, I was like, that's slick. So that night inspired him to create that song, Get At Me, Dog,
Starting point is 00:28:33 which was one of his biggest hood records that he put out. Now, of course, he told that story during Versus, so maybe people didn't catch that story. But always an interesting and good one. And thank God that Versus did so maybe people didn't catch that story, but always an interesting and good one. And thank God that Versus did go down because we had a chance to see DMX and Snoop together celebrating each other and with some good viral moments from that. Here's what he had to say about Versus. It meant the world because it gave the world a chance to see two dogs that naturally loved each
Starting point is 00:28:59 other, celebrating each other in the name of hip hop. You've seen a lot of interaction between me and him engaging in our songs. You've seen a lot of conversations and a lot of love. And we had God in the building with us that night. And that makes me feel good about DMX's transition to know that he's off to a better place and he's finally got his angel wings. Yeah, which is why I don't understand when people say DMX didn't get love and folks waited until he died to show him love. Absolutely, positively not.
Starting point is 00:29:25 He was getting love before the Versus, but the Versus absolutely provided Earl Simmons with his flowers. X always got love. 100%. And he definitely always got love up here. Absolutely. And Drink Champs, he did Drink Champs this past February. And, you know, they definitely gave him his flowers on Drink Champs.
Starting point is 00:29:42 So, yes, X got love. Yeah, DMX was an icon living, okay? That's a fact. So I don't think that people didn't show him the proper respect. Everything that he was going through, I do feel like people were super supportive and had a lot of love for DMX because he had a lot of love for people. Mm-hmm. All right, well, that is your rumor report.
Starting point is 00:29:59 All right, now we got front page news next. What are we talking about? Well, let's talk about the police officer who shot and killed Dante Wright and has now resigned. We'll tell you what her statement said and what else is going on. All right, we'll get into that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:30:13 The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Mountain Dew is partnering with HBCUs in an effort to uplift the next generation of badass black innovators and entrepreneurs with the Real Change Opportunity Fund Pitch Competition. Empowering students to go out and do. Visit mountaindu.com slash real change to enter. Hey, morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Degas. We are The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Let's get in some front page news. Where we starting you? All right.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Well, let's start with the officer who shot and killed Dante Wright and the Brooklyn Center police chief have both resigned. And this is in Minnesota. Police officer Kim Potter resigned from her position Tuesday after shooting and killing Dante Wright. We've been talking about this. You know, she was part of that police department for 26 years, a 26-year veteran. She submitted her resignation effective immediately, wrote a letter to city officials. She said, I have loved every minute of being a police officer
Starting point is 00:31:13 and serving this community to the best of my ability, but I believe it is in the best interest of the community, the department, and my fellow officers if I resign immediately. The mayor said we did not ask her to resign. That was a decision that she made. And they also said later in the evening that they had not yet accepted her resignation.
Starting point is 00:31:30 They said, we're still working through our own processes and making sure that we take the steps that are necessary to accept the resignation. Let's just say my team is evaluating the current circumstances, which are very complex. I don't, I don't get it. I need somebody way smarter than me to explain this to me. Can you just resign
Starting point is 00:31:45 in the middle of what is supposed to be an investigation? You can resign at any time, but I'm wondering if that resign gives her any benefits, meaning does she make sure she doesn't lose this? Does she automatically get this if she resigns during this? I'm just curious to watch. Yeah, that's what I would like to know. If you resign, do you still get your
Starting point is 00:32:01 pension? Like, what does that mean? Exactly. I don't know. I don't understand. Well, you know, like they just said, they have not yet accepted her resignation. So we'll see what happens, you know, but that's the information that we have thus far. Didn't the police chief resign too? Yes, the police chief also resigned. Why did the police chief resign? Right?
Starting point is 00:32:24 Backlash? Backlash of him saying, automatically saying it was a mistake so quickly. But what they are seeing... Deeper than that, white men don't just resign when they wrong. He got that pension and he's old, bro. He probably collecting his pension now. You think that's what it is?
Starting point is 00:32:37 He got mad cops resigned last year when they said they didn't like the changes that were happening. But why would he get fired? Why would the police chief get fired? That's my point. If John Wilson is saying he resigned to keep his pension, But why would he get fired? The police chief, why would the police chief get fired? He didn't get fired. But that's my point. But why would he resign? That's what I said. So if John Wilson is saying he resigned to keep his pension, why would he have gotten fired to begin with? He wasn't in the line of fire.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Like, why deal with this if I already got my pension? So he doesn't get fired. If I already got my pension, why? What would he get fired for? Yeah, because he didn't do the shooting. He didn't do anything. And yeah, he said it was a mistake, but she said it was a mistake. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:01 But I'm saying, why deal with the headache if you're older, you got your pension already, just retire. Something deeper going on. I'm with you. I'm telling you. I don't know what it is yet. We'll find out. You know what, they were... Anyway, the Brooklyn Center City Council on Monday, they did vote to fire Potter and Police Chief Tim Gannon, but they both
Starting point is 00:33:19 submitted letters of resignation on Tuesday. Oh, okay. Well, that makes sense. So they voted to fire him, so they probably wasn't going to get fired. Well, that makes sense. So they voted to fire him. So they probably wasn't going to get fired. OK, that makes sense. Yeah. So there you have now. Dante Wright's father said that he cannot accept the cop defense for killing his son.
Starting point is 00:33:37 I'll be right. Said that this mistake just doesn't sound right. Do you accept that explanation, Mr. Wright? I cannot accept that. I lost my son. He's never coming back. I can't accept that. A mistake that's not, that doesn't even sound right. You know, this officer has been on the force for 26 plus, 26 years. I can't accept that. I would like to see justice served and her held accountable for everything that she's taken from us.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Stop asking stupid questions to parents who have lost people. Do you accept that? Would you accept your child just being murdered? His son is dead. Who the hell do they think black people are? I sometimes wonder, do people understand what death is? When someone you love gets killed, don't ask me, do I accept that? Don't ask me, do I forgive the killer? Don't ask me to make peace with the killer. Let me feel this and go through whatever emotion I want to. Do I accept that? What kind of question
Starting point is 00:34:29 is that to ask a parent who just lost a child? Well, that was Robin Roberts on Good Morning America talking to obviously Aubrey Wright, who is Dante Wright's father, as well as Katie Wright. But I think sometimes people ask the question to be able to hear their parents express how they're feeling. But do you accept that? It's a parent who just lost a child. It gotta be a better question than that. I think sometimes people ask the question to be able to hear their parents express how they're feeling. But do you accept that?
Starting point is 00:34:46 It's a parent who just lost a child. It got to be a better question. I think that. Yeah, I think the answer is pretty obvious when you ask that. But it might be just asking that question to get people to understand the emotion that comes with it and hear that emotional response. Well, ask me how I feel. To humanize. Ask me how I feel.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Ask me how I feel. I rather that. All right. You accept it. Ask me how I feel then. Ask me how I feel. Mm-hmm. I'd rather that. All right. You accept it. Well, that is your front page news. All right. Now, when we come back, we have the Lucas Brothers joining us. Lucas Brothers are comedian, writers, producers.
Starting point is 00:35:16 They just recently co-wrote and co-produced Judas and the Black Messiah. So we're going to kick it with them when we come back. So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired?
Starting point is 00:35:30 Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy.
Starting point is 00:35:40 There's 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I trade my country? My forefathers did that themselves.
Starting point is 00:35:58 What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh, my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help!
Starting point is 00:36:10 We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step.
Starting point is 00:36:56 And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best.
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Starting point is 00:38:20 Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm glad to see y'all still looking very military, even though y'all nominated for an Oscar. You know, we can't change it up too much. No, no. If y'all don't dress like this at the Oscars, I'm going to be disappointed. I think they're forcing us to wear tuxedos, man. Really? Well, we might keep our military jackets over the tuxedos. That's right. Just to, you know, maintain some consistency.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Which one is Kenny? Which one is Keith? I'm Kenny. Okay. And maybe I'm Keith. Yeah. Let's go back for people that don't know who the Lucas brothers are. I know you guys
Starting point is 00:39:05 Are from Newark, New Jersey So explain your journey Man It's been crazy So we were born September 13th, 1985 At UMD&J Virgo
Starting point is 00:39:13 Newark, New Jersey During the height Of the crack epidemic Right And you know It was a turbulent upbringing Yeah Drug war
Starting point is 00:39:21 Drugs Father was Shooting, killing Murder All that In the 80s, 90s. Stealing cars in Newark was crazy. We were the carjacking capital of the universe, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:39:30 What was that movie? New Jersey Drive. New Jersey Drive. Filming Newark, you know, it made people mad, you know, but it was still the only representation of Newark. Right, right. So when our father went to prison when we were like six or seven, he was like caught up in that gang s*** and, you know, doing what he had to do to survive. Got caught. And so we kind of grew up, well, not kind of, but single mom. You know, s*** like that. Poverty.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Moving from like different places and, you know, seeing s*** that we probably shouldn't have seen when we were like f***ing kids. When we were kids. It was wild. It was wild. I struggled in high school. You didn't really struggle in high school. No, I was pretty good. You was a pretty good student.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Now, wait a minute. See, now, there's no way I had an identical twin and I'm struggling in high school. It was wow. I struggled in high school. You didn't really struggle in high school. No, I was pretty good. He was a pretty good student. Now, wait a minute. See, now, there's no way I had an identical twin, and I'm struggling in high school. That was the problem. Like, you could just be like, yo, bro, take my test for me. The teachers ain't going to know. Yeah, see, the thing is, we hadn't seen Sister Sister yet, so we didn't have, like, a sitcom play that we could do. So I was just, like, beast in class, and he was struggling.
Starting point is 00:40:23 I was like, dude, just... I was struggling so much, and he was doing so well. I was like I gotta turn this around It's on me. Yeah, right around my sophomore. Yeah, I started to like shift and start studying hard and we were able to get into college by the grace of God and We study philosophy in college. We thought we're gonna get our PhDs in philosophy Like we were convinced that that's what we wanted to do you guys are the same major and that's that's interesting because you said your dad studied philosophy in prison right yeah that's made up so we study philosophy we're to go to get our PhDs, but we, you know, we needed money, man.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Like, we were broke as ****. Like, I mean, philosophers don't make that much money. And then they were telling us, like, graduate school for philosophy is tough. It's hard to find a job. It takes, like, eight years. I'm like, eight years for philosophy? That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Some philosophers do make money. Some philosophers do make money. Derrick Jackson made a lot of money. Right, right, right. Until he didn't. Right. And Cornel West, you know, made a lot of money. Right, right, right. Until he didn't. Right. And Cornel West, you know, he's a brilliant philosopher. Yes, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:41:30 He made a huge name for himself. So it could have been done, but we're not Cornel West. Right, right, right. We thought maybe we can do something a bit more practical, so we went to law school. Right. I went to Duke. He went to NYU. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:41 He wasn't passionate at all about it. I thought that I really wanted to be a lawyer, but it just didn't work out. Yeah, and then right around that time in law school, I started experimenting with drugs. I started smoking. I started doing Adderall. I was drinking. And I was starting to like, because the stress of law school, I'd never felt anything like that before. And I'm from Newark.
Starting point is 00:42:00 I've seen violence. I've seen people using drugs. Didn't ever want to touch a drug. Then I get to law school. I'm like, damn, I can't take this f***ing exam. Didn't you do three years of law school? Three years. You're almost finished.
Starting point is 00:42:15 We did two years and 98% of our third year. We had about two weeks left before our exams and we were like, f*** it, man. Let's go do standout. I want to go back to the law school thing. Have you ever unpacked that? Because you came up in the hood, so that seems so normal.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Was it the fact that when you was in law school, you was like fish out of water, kind of? That's exactly what it is. It felt like Alice in Wonderland. I had never seen people use drugs so openly from privilege. It's got to f*** with you as a black man, right? Because you see people in the hood, they're usually leaning on drugs for trauma reasons,
Starting point is 00:42:46 right? And y'all like, y'all doing this s*** for fun? They're not going to jail, boy? Exactly, dude. It blew our minds. Like, how can they, especially at law school, you know, these guys are the people who are going to be writing policies and laws, and they're breaking the rules. And these policies are going to affect black people.
Starting point is 00:43:04 So it was like a weird sort of situation where you're like how can i study this and know that these these people are going to write these laws that affect my people but they're they don't even care about the rules of the law so now let's get back to it so y'all decided not to finish law school right after this and stand up and let's do comedy yeah were y'all working on comedy or did some of the family members say y'all funny y'all like nobody in our family some family member say y'all funny? Nobody in our family said we were funny. They don't think that we're that funny. I think it was just like, I did some stand-up in New York.
Starting point is 00:43:30 I went to a club. I did a club and it was just I sucked, but I liked it. What makes you do that? You know what? Let me try comedy. I was losing my mind. I think I was losing my mind. I was literally drinking, doing drugs. I was like, f*** it, man. I'm not going to do this law school s*** anymore.
Starting point is 00:43:46 And I was just losing, I was breaking up with my girlfriend at the time. She was breaking up with me at the time. And I was just like, I was on one, man. Like, it was crazy.
Starting point is 00:43:56 But I was on stage and that was the only time I felt normal. And you went to his first show. How bad was it? No, he sent me, he sent me a clip of his first show. Oh, you didn't even go?
Starting point is 00:44:03 I was in North Carolina. He was in New York. So he sent me a clip of his first show. Oh, you didn't even go? I was in North Carolina. He was in New York. So he sent me a clip of his first show. And I was like, yo, this is terrible. One of the worst sets I've ever seen. And I knew he was having a crisis of mental health. And I was like, dude, man, just do it a few more times. But get back to the books because this ain't it.
Starting point is 00:44:23 But he kept with it. He still kept going to the open mics, and he still kept trying to get better at it. So after a couple weeks, he called me again, and was like, yo, I think we need to quit law school. I think we need to go. We? He said we.
Starting point is 00:44:37 And I was like, you're crazy. I want to be a lawyer. I've been put three years into this. I'm not going to just drop it for comedy. But he was very persuasive, and then that's when I had that be a lawyer. I've been put three years into this. I'm not going to just drop it for comedy. But he was very persuasive. And then that's when I had that moment of clarity. Like, f*** it, man. Let's just do it.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Let's try it. So he would have been a good lawyer. That's what I say. I used my three years of legal education just to convince him to drop out of law school. So now what did your mom say? Your mom, you know, struggled to get you in good school, worked hard for you. She's so excited. My boy's about to be attorneys. And you're like, Mom, now we're dropping out get you in good school, worked hard for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's so excited. My boy's about to be attorneys.
Starting point is 00:45:06 And you're like, mom, now we're dropping out. We're going to be talking to comedians. What would the mom... I mean, she thought we were losing our minds. I mean, she knows, like, our whole story. So she's familiar with our father not being there. She's familiar with the drugs. She's like, you know, maybe you guys should go to therapy or something like that.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Make sure you think about what you're doing before you're doing it. Just being a mom. But eventually when she saw that we were serious about it. Right. And that it made us happy. She was completely on board. Right. My dad, you know, he thought that he was going to get some free legal advice.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Right, right. So once we dropped out, he got a little upset. But he's been super supportive. I love how you said my mom knows our whole story. I like people like, my mom was my day one. Oh, really? I mean, you can't lie to her. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:45:48 You can lie to pretty much anyone else. Not your mom. You can't lie to your mom. She just sees right through that. All right, we got more with the Lucas Brothers. When we come back, don't move.
Starting point is 00:45:55 It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with the Lucas Brothers. Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with the Lucas Brothers.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Charlamagne? Do you think censorship or this woke culture that we're in right now, is that going to dilute the art? No, I don't think so. I think that it's going to make us even more, what's the word I'm looking for, make us like. Creative. I think creative.
Starting point is 00:46:20 You have to be creative. You have to be a little bit more considerate of, because I think about, look, there was a period when blackface was like the top style of comedy. And people were like, you can't do blackface anymore. I'm sure the people who were doing blackface were like, this is ruining comedy. This is hurting the purity. But it's like, no, you just have to adjust and make better comedy. I think that's how evolution works is like you just have to if people are like they don't make fun of trans or don't make fun of gays and now we can't do those things i think it makes our comedy fresher i think it makes it pure because now you're you're no longer punching down to be a bit more inventive you gotta just be a bit more creative and clever but does it
Starting point is 00:46:58 really reflect reality meaning like art should get a certain type of license to reflect reality. Right. If you're not able to reflect reality without people offending people, saying, oh, that shouldn't be in a movie. It's offensive. Like, but it's a movie. I'm trying to tell a story here. Right, right, right. No, I see what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:47:17 I guess I just think like it's not just about, you know, telling the freest form of comedy, but it's also like a moral and social component to the comedy that we do. Again, you can choose to be offensive. You can choose to say whatever you want, but you have to be prepared for... Backlash. You can do whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Yeah. Right. But for us, it's like, you still got to take a risk. You got to. You have to. I mean, that's art. Art is risk-taking.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Yeah, I mean, you guys are doing a remake of Revenge of the Nerds, I heard, with Seth MacFarlane. Right. That movie would be considered problematic, toxic, reinforcing rape culture. I mean, it was problematic, you know, in the 90s. We didn't notice. Right. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:47:57 But how do you remake that for this era? You know, times have changed. I feel like we have an opportunity to comment on the film in the 80s. I think that, like they did in 22 Jump Street or 21 Jump Street, they took an approach where it allowed for them to create a new story but also comment on the past. And I think that's what we want to do. See, that's my thing.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Nobody's acknowledging the shift in culture. There was a shift in culture. The stuff that you used to could get away with in music music movies whatever you just can't anymore but we haven't acknowledged that yeah it's almost like we just started handing out retroactive speeding tickets right right it's weird i think i think there's been a shift in a number of things i feel like there's been a shift in science we've we've gone from you know straight einstein sort of relativity to sort of a quantum sort of
Starting point is 00:48:45 perspective of science. And I think that that's reflective of in the internet where everyone has a point of view and everyone feels like their reality is real. Like, like everyone says, we're speaking our truth. Everyone's truth is sort of legit. I mean, even if it contradicts someone else's reality and that's quantum, you know what I mean? Like everyone's perspective is legitimate. Even flat earthers? Even flat earthers. Like if they believe it, why is it not? You know, like they truly believe it's even if you put forth evidence that, you know, their beliefs are erroneous. They're still going to believe what they want to believe. So you're putting yourself at a disadvantage trying to use reason to a person that doesn't even use reason. Right. What do you think about putting the disclaimers? You know how they've been putting disclaimers
Starting point is 00:49:25 like on movies and TV shows just to give people like, okay, this was filmed during this time. I mean, I think that that's a more effective approach than just completely banning something. I mean, I think that maybe that works. But again, I think we're assuming that audiences aren't intelligent.
Starting point is 00:49:42 We're assuming that they can't differentiate between what's offensive and what's not offensive. And then you're going to have a small minority of people who go online and say, take this down. But I think what's happening now is people being very reactive to those minority voices. I feel like eventually, hopefully, that there will be a leveling out where we're like, okay, maybe we shouldn't be that reactionary.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Maybe we should have some sort of due process in assessing what we do with a particular piece of art. Because it's a very slippery slope. I even saw what they did with YG this weekend with the Meet the Fockers record. And I think they took it down, but then they put it back because they said if we take this down, then we're going to have to do this all across the board. There's so many things people could be offended by. It's like you can't go down that road when it comes to art.
Starting point is 00:50:25 I think we need to make a distinction between offense and harm. I think when we're assessing how we limit someone's liberty, is that exercise of liberty harming a person or is it offending a person? If it's harming, then I think we can take a more proactive approach to the piece of art and maybe say, hey, maybe we should consider taking it down. If it's just offending someone, I think you have a right to be offended i'm saying i don't think that that offense should equate to completely eliminating a work of art i think we have to i think we have to be able to process offense you know and have honest conversations about that
Starting point is 00:50:59 which offends right but i think that that that shouldn't result in you know a boycott of someone's work of art that they've put years into. Like if it's harmful, if it's causing violence, if it's like causing like blatant racism, then you got like blackface, for example. That was harmful to black people. You know, I mean, like birth of a nation was directly harmful to black people. So it should be removed. I mean, I don't think that that's a problem. I don't I don't have an issue with that. But if it's just offensive, I'm like, yeah, we gotta have thicker skin. Now don't move. We got more with the Lucas Brothers when we come back.
Starting point is 00:51:30 It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with the Lucas Brothers. Charlamagne? Judas and the Black Messiah. Well, first of all, y'all have done a lot more than Judas and the Black Messiah. I remember y'all from Friends of the Peep. You know what I mean? You, Little
Starting point is 00:51:44 Rel, Kevin Barnett, God Bless the Dead. Who else was on that? Jermaine Fowler. Joshua Benowitz, Jennifer Bartels. If you think about it now, that show should have been a hit. It should have been, but sometimes things fail to launch.
Starting point is 00:52:00 You think about OKC, the Thunder, they had all the talent in the world, but they couldn't get a championship. I don't remember what network that was. True TV. True TV. How do you go from True TV to Oscar nominated? It's a God rest his soul. Oh, is this still here?
Starting point is 00:52:14 No, True TV's still here. Oh, my bad. My bad. True TV's still here. I meant to say MOTP. God rest his soul. How do y'all go from that to Oscar nominated? What are the steps?
Starting point is 00:52:24 What's the process? It's a grind, man. Like, it was crazy for us because, like, we were going nowhere fast. The sketch show gets canceled and we were like, let's just go to Lucas Bros. Lucas Bros. Moving Co. gets canceled. So we got two cancellations under our belt. We're five years in.
Starting point is 00:52:38 We're like, f***. So we escaped from New York in humiliation in our minds. And we go to L.A. and we're like, all right, we're going to figure this out here. We're going to, you know, we're going to figure out our act. We're going to write some before we went to L.A. We were already like thinking about Judas. You know, we were already right. We were brainstorming some of the beats of the story.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Right. We were just doing a lot of research around 2012, 2013. Right. We started doing a ton of research about Hampton. We didn't know how to turn it into a film but we knew like this is something that we would like to potentially turn into a film so we went to LA with the goal in mind of either getting a script deal to write to write Judas or to sell the pitch somewhere we just we had ambitions going into Cali right but
Starting point is 00:53:23 we were still so focused on comedy that it was sort of like a balancing act trying to get Judas made, but also trying to get our comedy career back on track. Right, back on track. So we're in LA, we're pitching the story around town, getting no traction. People are like, this doesn't make any sense. It's not going to make any money. It's a period piece about a black revolutionary socialist.
Starting point is 00:53:43 What are you guys crazy? And we're like, yeah, all right yeah all right i guess maybe we are crazy so we we kind of went away from the material for a bit went back to comedy uh we were doing this pilot with fx killer mike uh it was for him and that eventually went to netflix it didn't go to fx trigger trigger yeah right so we did the pilot for trigger warning for f FX, and Shaka King was directing it, and that's how we met Shaka. And we knew that after we got rejected from all of our pitches,
Starting point is 00:54:12 we were like, I think we need to work with a filmmaker who can take this idea and make it into a film. And so that's when we were like, we got to reach out to Shaka. And then we hung out with Shaka in our apartment in Hollywood, listening to music, just vibing on cinema. And we sort of pitched him our idea, and he said it was great. And we started to develop a beefier outline.
Starting point is 00:54:35 And then, but simultaneously, Will Burstyn, the other co-writer, and Oscar nominee was, you know, working on his own script. And Jermaine Fowler, our boy from FOTP, he made the connection. He knew Will. He knew that we were working on our thing, and he just brought us all together. We used our story outline that we worked on with Shaka.
Starting point is 00:54:56 And so Shaka and Will went together and basically rewrote Will's script using our story outline. And they wrote a brilliant script, and they sent it to uh ryan coogler we didn't know that shaka knew ryan coogler but once i mean once ryan got it that's when things started to like pick up because i love the script and he he definitely wanted to make it he wanted that to be his first project for on his new uh production company right and so things just started to get crazy.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Yeah, at first it was like we were nowhere. And then Shaka, Will, Ryan, Charles. I'm like, all in a year that just started happening. We were like, what the f***? And then we went out with the script, with Macro, with Ryan, with Shaka, with Will and us. Macro financing half. Macro financing half. Macro financing half.
Starting point is 00:55:46 And the white man still said no. The white man still said no. Still said no. And we said we'll put up half the money. We're thinking it's going to be a bidding war. We think that, you know, we got Kaluuya, we got Keith, we have our stars, we have a brilliant script, we have these great producers, and still, you know, it's a f***ing struggle. Think about that.
Starting point is 00:56:03 All of that already attached. Daniel, Keith, Ryan, Shaka, Macro, half the money, Lucas Brothers, and the white man like, no. No, no, no. And I don't think people realize how hard it is to get a movie made. And especially when you have a dream team like that
Starting point is 00:56:20 and you still can't get traction, like, that's how hard it is. And this is Ryan after Black Panther. This is billionaire Black Panther. The hottest producer in the game and still. But fortunately enough, Warner Bros, you know, they put up half the money and they wanted to distribute
Starting point is 00:56:36 it. They loved the script. They let us shoot it. They greenlit it. They let us shoot it. And it just came out as perfect as I thought it could come out. Why did Warner Bros get it? I need white people to understand how coolest they can be. So I want to know why did Warner Brothers get it over every other... Was it a black exec at Warner Brothers?
Starting point is 00:56:52 Naja. Naja. Black execs. Black execs. I mean, they get it. Naja really, like, she was the key. What's her last name? How do you pronounce her last name?
Starting point is 00:57:00 I don't know how to pronounce it. Well, salute to you, Naja. Kuykendall, I think. I may have mispronounced that. But, yeah, she's a brilliant executive. And she was the one who sort of, she saw the importance of the film. She loved the script.
Starting point is 00:57:12 And she was the one who sort of just powered it through. Yeah, salute to Naja. That's why diversity matters. That's why it matters. That's exactly why it matters. Because you're telling these stories, and if you're sitting across from a group of white people, they just don't even hear it. They don't know the language.
Starting point is 00:57:29 They don't know why it matters. This is how we have to describe Fred Hampton to white people. Fred Hampton is the velvet underground of civil rights leaders. We thought perhaps that they'll see the connection. They didn't. It was like, you know how many white executives probably like, okay, Ryan Coogler's coming here to talk about doing Black Panther.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Another Black Panther, really? That's a brand new answer. That was at Marvel, but maybe we could probably like try to finesse around it, I guess. Now I see you tweeted it, if you guys wouldn't ask as you are retiring from standup and you're cutting off half your family. Yeah, man, but we were gonna do that before.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Yeah, I mean, we gotta figure out who we're gonna, how do we figure out who we're gonna cut off? Yeah, yeah, what family members're cutting off half your family yeah but we're gonna do that before yeah i mean we gotta figure out how do we figure out who we're gonna cut off yeah yeah what family members you cutting off oh man uh just the ones who haven't talked to me in years and like hit me up for money those like the ones who like didn't know i existed like like oh you i'm your cousin from your father's side can you let me borrow 300 like ah man you get that yeah man, man. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's like uncomfortable. They think you got money because you got an Oscar nomination. You don't get paid for this. You gotta pay your way for all this shit. You don't get extra money for an Oscar nomination.
Starting point is 00:58:35 It's expensive. Were you close with your dad while he was in jail? Were you close with your dad? We were close at first. We went to go visit him a bunch and then we moved to North Carolina. Our mom remarried. So we sort of became distant.
Starting point is 00:58:49 We grew a little distant because we couldn't visit him as much. And we weren't really calling him. And that was like, that must have been like five to six years. And then once he got out, we started to work on our relationship. But, you know, it was a lot to unpack. I mean, as we got older, we started to feel the ramifications of not growing up with a father. But more importantly. A lot of unpack. I mean, yeah, you know, as we got older, we started to feel the, the ramifications of not growing up with a father, but more importantly, a lot of anger, ramifications of growing up with a father went to prison. So it was like, you know, you just have rage.
Starting point is 00:59:13 You hate the law. You hate the government. You hate all that. And you're trying to figure out ways to cope. And, uh, it was tough. It was tough. It's still tough sometimes to, to, to, to speak with our dad because of so much we missed out on so much you know what i mean and you can never forget how much you missed out on right like even like to this day i go to the park and i see a dad like throwing the ball with their son and i tear up a little bit i'm like man it's kind of i wish i had that like it's it kind of sucks to know that. It's sad, man. I don't know if y'all joking. Why are you laughing? Why don't you just laugh? That was crazy.
Starting point is 00:59:48 And the way he said it, man. That's the way. I'm speaking my emotion right now, man. That's the way he said it. He's never addressed that with you, my brother. That is so rude. Okay, continue. You tear up when you see it.
Starting point is 01:00:02 I tear up when I see father and sons, man. Like, I can't even, like, scroll on Instagram when I see people like that. I'm like, girl, it just, it hurts. You want to play catch now? Yo, shut up. Yo, shut up. This guy's an ass. I mean, look, man, you want to go play some catch now?
Starting point is 01:00:19 You might be able to make up for, you know, this situation. I do have one final question. How do y'all maintain your own identity as twins? Oh, that's a great question. That's a great question. That's a great question. We don't. No, you know, what's crazy is that for a while,
Starting point is 01:00:37 we tried to, like, establish our own identity. Right. Just like, I want to be Keith. He wants to be Kenny. We went to law school. We were just trying to do our own thing, and we just had a breakdown. And I think we realized we're just stronger together.
Starting point is 01:00:49 And why do you need an individual identity? Why do we emphasize that so much? Why is that such a thing that we place an importance on? It's supposed to be normal. Normal is being a singleton and being an individual. And I think that's why people get so stressed out. Why is that normal? But everyone has a desire to get married.
Starting point is 01:01:08 So are we to have a desire to have a family? So there's this notion that the individual is supreme, but we rush to these group identities so quickly. We have sports teams. We have our family. We have, you know, religion. Religion. Any political party.
Starting point is 01:01:23 We rush to these. Eternities. Sororities. Exactly. So I think we have to readjust how we see what normal is. It's not necessarily about the individual. It's not necessarily about willing yourself to greatness. It's really a community type thing. And I think
Starting point is 01:01:38 that he and I kind of see that and we're like, we have a group identity. Right, right, right. And we just so happen to look exactly alike. We're a group we have a group identity right right right and we just so happen to look exactly alike right we're a group but a group nonetheless well i hope y'all win the oscar man y'all gonna give a phenomenal speech i really do i really think y'all gonna give a great speech and i want to see y'all up there with the military jack the military jack at least the pins you gotta have something i think we'll keep our pins up.
Starting point is 01:02:05 I'll keep the free hoodie. Thank you, brothers, for joining us. Thank you guys for having us, man. It's the Lucas Brothers. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. It's time. She's spilling the tea.
Starting point is 01:02:15 This is the Rumor Report with Angela Yee on the Breakfast Club. All right. So, Kwon Do Rondo dropped part two of our interview sit-down that we did last month. And in part two, and by the way, I just want to say, understandment is a word, because I know people were quoting that word. It's a mixture of understanding and agreement. That is not a word. If you look in the Urban Dictionary.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Stop it. It is now. And so, one of the things that he talks about was his best friend, Lil Tim, getting shot the night that they were in the parking lot. I look up and I see my partner on the ground. He got shot four times. And a couple months before that, with a couple incidents, I've been in my hometown, he's been shot five times.
Starting point is 01:03:04 What happened? So what he was telling me, what he was telling me was a lot of people didn't know that when little Tim got shot in the parking lot that night, when King Von was unfortunately tragically killed, people didn't know that he already had just recently been shot just a couple of months prior to this. So that,
Starting point is 01:03:19 like I was saying earlier, there's been a lot of incidents that have been going on. He said, the only reason this one obviously is popular is because of who was involved and because it was on video. And so a lot of people don't know what happens behind the scenes. Did he say he got shot nine times in five months? Yeah. If you've been shot nine times in five months, you need to give your life to God. Okay. That means you never get a chance to heal from any gunshot wounds. Nine times in five months? And then he was in jail. He's been in jail and you know, he's home now, but he was in jail after That means you never get a chance to heal from any gunshot wounds. Nine times in five months? That's impossible.
Starting point is 01:03:48 He's been in jail, and he's home now, but he was in jail after he got shot. So he was going through a lot while he was locked up also, having gotten shot. Now, there was also a rumor, and people were saying that, Kwon Do Rondo, it looked like on the video he tried to take King Von's chain. Here's what he had to say about that. And there were other shootings going on in that population There was so many people shooting, ma'am. If you was there, you would be hurt from everything that's going on because nobody really know. I see my partner shot up.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Like a lot of people saying that I was trying to take bro chain. Like, ma'am, when they call the jury, ma'am, a $50,000, $60,000 chain, ma'am, like a n***a can go buy that. Ma'am, when they call the jury, ma'am, a $50,000, $60,000 change, ma'am, like, go buy that. Ma'am. He did call me ma'am about 900 times during the course of the interview. Listen, this is why I don't mind young nigga business. I stay out of these young niggas' way, you feel me? I'm 42 years old. I am a sir.
Starting point is 01:04:39 When you are a sir or a ma'am, you have to carry yourself as such. All right. Well, anyway, he wanted to clear up that rumor because he was saying that he definitely was not trying to take anybody's chain in the incident. And he also said, now this was interesting, that in that parking lot, he didn't even know that it was King Von until the next day.
Starting point is 01:04:57 I never in life, ma'am, never in life had words with them ever. And you at this point didn't know who it was either. Ma'am, I didn't know this was him. Ma'am, I swear to God, on my soul, ma'am, like, ma'am, this is a neighborhood crip, ma'am. I did not know that was him till the next day. So wait a minute, when they got him to the fight, he didn't...
Starting point is 01:05:25 Never mind. I'm just keeping my... Boy, stay out of young nigga business. You right? What's wrong with you? You right. Well, you know, if you hear like the course
Starting point is 01:05:33 of the whole interview is what he's saying is he takes lean every day. He was sleeping in the car before the incident happened and he wasn't even trying to go to the club. So he was...
Starting point is 01:05:42 While his friends were inside, he was staying in the car. He remained in the car because he hadn't planned to go there. He just wanted to stay in the car. Lil Tim said, I'm going to stay to the club. So he was, while his friends were inside, he was staying in the car. He remained in the car because he hadn't planned to go there. He just wanted to stay in the car. Lil Tim said, I'm going to stay outside with you.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Listen, ma'am. She didn't want to leave him. Ma'am, we don't need no explanation, ma'am. When is the Earth, Wind & Fire, and Nine Nights at Freddy's coming back?
Starting point is 01:05:58 What are they doing part two of that versus? When is SWV and Escape going to do that thing? Oh, yes. Which y'all got me in. But, you know, he's going through some real PTSD. Like, he's had people come into the house to speak to him.
Starting point is 01:06:10 It's a lot, you know, for him to have witnessed and gone through. So he wanted to tell his side of the story. Because there's a lot of people saying things that he feels like aren't true. So he wanted to tell from his side because he was there. So this is what he's saying. And right now we just know his side of what happened. I feel like praying, ma'am. I ain't messing with y'all.
Starting point is 01:06:28 I feel like praying, ma'am. I need to sage myself, ma'am. Okay? Yeah, so that is your rumor report. Yes, ma'am. All right, ma'am. I stay out of young nigga business, okay? That's my advice for all of y'all
Starting point is 01:06:46 out there I think if we care about people's lives and I don't think that he wants anything to happen so that's the whole point of this right we don't want to see more people get we don't want to see more people get killed they do diss records like there's a whole lot going on
Starting point is 01:07:02 they do diss records against each other it's like, hey. Ron Isley. I just told y'all. Earth, Wind & Fire, part two. I need to see that, man. Okay. Well, sir, who are you giving your donkey to?
Starting point is 01:07:14 Well, sir, no, ma'am. There's a dude named Kevin Van Loven. And Envy, I have a feeling that you are going to love this story. Because it's about one of your favorite things. Elmo. What? I don't know what you're talking about. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:35 Sure. I'm looking at you different after this story, sir. Oh, my goodness. All right. Donkey, the day's up next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
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Starting point is 01:08:49 Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step.
Starting point is 01:09:30 And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're gonna figure out the rhythm of this thing.
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Starting point is 01:11:14 Donkey of the Day. Practice Club, bitches. Now I've been called a lot in my 23 years that Donkey of the Day is a new one. Yes, Donkey of the Day for Wednesday, April 14th, goes to a home inspector in Michigan named Kevin Wayne Van Loven. What a name, Van Loven.
Starting point is 01:11:35 If this guy doesn't own a 1992 Ford Econoline, I would be disappointed. Okay, at least a 1997 Plymouth Voyager, maybe a Volkswagen Eurovan, maybe. Moral of the story is he should drive nothing but vans. When your last name is Van Loving, you only have one vehicle of choice, and the license plate of that vehicle has to say Van Loving. Sneakers too! Okay, when your last name is Van Loving, you can only wear vans, the old school black and white ones with the jazz stripe. Now, some would say that if you drive a Van and wear Vans, that's the child sex offender starter kit. I'm just saying, if you profile pedophiles, this kind of fits the description. But maybe I'm making all this up.
Starting point is 01:12:15 This is probably a personal bias that I'm projecting. So never mind me. But back to Mr. Van Lovin. Now, Mr. Van Lovin is a home inspector. And he was inspecting the home of a 22-year-old woman in Oxford Township. He was inspecting the property before a sale. Well, something in that house turned Kevin Van Loven on. I don't know what type of aphrodisiac he used before he inspected that house.
Starting point is 01:12:39 Maybe he ate some chocolate, maybe some figs, some oysters, asparagus maybe. Something increased his libido, his sexual function. Something got him so hot and bothered in that house that he had to pleasure himself right then and there. Let's go to WJBK Fox 2 Detroit for the report, please. Before selling, an Oxford Township couple let this man into their home on Gill Street for a routine inspection. COUNTY POLICE SAY THEY FOUND THE MAN WHO WAS ALERTED ON HER CELL PHONE. THE HOMEOWNER TOLD THEM THE TOWNSHIP COUPLE LET THIS MAN INTO THEIR HOME ON GILL STREET FOR A ROUTINE INSPECTION.
Starting point is 01:13:10 THEY LEFT, NEVER SUSPECTING THE 59-YEAR-OLD MAN WOULD ALLEGEDLY FULFILL HIS SEXUAL URGES WITH THEIR CHILD'S ELMO DOLL. A DISTURBING SEXUAL ACT REVEALED WHEN MOVEMENT IN THE CHILD'S ROOM TRIGGERED THE
Starting point is 01:13:22 NURSERY CAMERA. THE IMAGE SHOWS WHEN KEVIN VAN LOOVEN PICKED UP THE TICKLE ME ELMO DOLL. THE HOMEOWNER SHOCKED WHEN SHE WAS ALERTED ON HER CELL PHONE. AFTER HITTING RECORD SHE IMMEDIATELY CONTACTED THE OAKLAND COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. OUR DEPUTIES CONFRONTED HIM AND INITIALLY HE DENIED IT AND THEN THEY TOLD HIM IT WAS ON
Starting point is 01:13:31 VIDEO AND THEN HE APOLOGIZED. HE'S BEEN CHARGED WITH AGGRAVATED INDECENT EXPOSURE AND A MISDEMEANOR CHARGE OF MALICIOUS DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY. BUT PERHAPS WHAT'S EVEN MORE DISGUSTING?
Starting point is 01:13:39 AFTER ABUSING THE DOLL, THE DOLL WAS SHOCKED. THE DOLL WAS SHOCKED. THE DOLL WAS SHOCKED. THE DOLL WAS SHOCKED. THE DOLL WAS SHOCKED. THE DOLL WAS SHOCKED. THE DOLL WAS SHOCKED. THE DOLL WAS SHOCKED. THE DOLL WAS SHOCKED. Indecent exposure and a misdemeanor charge of malicious destruction of property. But perhaps what's even more disgusting after abusing the doll, Van Leuven put it back. I never thought I would find someone who loves Elmo more than Rashaun Casey, a.k.a. DJ Envy. I have so many questions.
Starting point is 01:14:01 I know people say we shouldn't kink shame. We shouldn't shame people for what they are into sexually, but that's BS. Okay, that's from 2021. I've been woke too long and I need some sleep because I'm not thinking straight when I'm sleepy rhetoric. Okay, if I can't shame Kevin Van Loven for this, then the word shame needs to be abolished altogether. Now, can I try to understand Kevin Van Loven? Sure. Let's unpack this.
Starting point is 01:14:23 How many times has Kevin Wayne Van Loven sat his ass in front of the TV and masturbated to Sesame Street? I wonder. I also wonder if he sat down with a therapist or psychiatrist, could he or she bring this back to something that happened in his childhood? I mean, it's Elmo, as in tickle me, Elmo, right? And tickling equals flirting. I read somewhere, and somewhere, I mean, Google that from adolescence on, you're roughly seven times more likely to be tickled by somebody at the opposite sex.
Starting point is 01:14:52 And the most common reason to tickle is to show affection. So maybe when he was a baby as in a young lad, he got tickled a lot. And the thought of tickling turns him on. I don't know. OK, so when you're a creature that is the symbol of tickling, maybe when you see that you get turned on, when you see that symbol of tickling that is Elmo. A lot of people don't like tickling, but tickling is a physical expression of love.
Starting point is 01:15:15 So maybe just maybe he saw Elmo and he wanted to show his love. Some people do tickle fights as foreplay. People stage tickle fights in the bedroom. Nothing I'm saying makes sense, does it? Of course not, okay? God may not make mistakes, but humans do. But I hear stories like Kevin Van Loven, and I know they say don't question God, but sometimes you have to recognize that God didn't give you the same brains he gave everybody else, okay?
Starting point is 01:15:43 There were certain periods in time that God was just creating anybody and anything. All right. Genesis one 26 says God created man in his image according to his likeness, right? Well, humans, sometimes we just like to try things, throw it against the wall to see what sticks. I think God did that when he was creating some humans, some humans he just created with his eyes closed. Kevin Van Loven might've been one of them. Okay. God made them and forgot about them. So then Mr Kevin Van Loven might have been one of them. Okay, God made him and forgot about him, so then Mr. Van Loven all these years has been left to his own devices, wandering around life aimlessly by himself without God's guidance,
Starting point is 01:16:14 only to end up on Sesame Street masturbating next to Oscar the Grown's trash can while Elmo just minding his business performing Elmo's song. Hit that tune for me, Dramos. This is the song. Come on now. Elmo's song. Hit that tune for me, Dramos. This is the song. Come on now. Elmo's song. Mm. Mm.
Starting point is 01:16:29 La, la, la, la. La, la, la, la. Elmo's song. Kevin Van Loven is somewhere hot and bothered right now. La, la, la, la. Oh. To think he wrote this alone. Oh.
Starting point is 01:16:38 La, la, la. That's what does it for Kevin Van Loven. Catchy. Oh. He loves to sing. Okay, enough. Enough. Enough. Okay, enough, enough, enough.
Starting point is 01:16:46 Okay. Kevin Van Loven is reinforcing all the pedophile stereotypes. I told you driving a van and wearing vans is the sex offender starter kit. You know how many people Chris Hansen caught who fit that profile? And this guy, Kevin Van Loven, okay, you got caught sexually assaulting an Elmo doll in a nursery. That sounds pretty pedophile to me. Okay. Elmo is three and a half years old. Do you know that?
Starting point is 01:17:12 Three and a half years old, you sick bastard. This is what Kevin Van Loving hears when drunk in love, please. I'm swerving on that. Swerving, swerving on that. Big body been serving all this. Surfing all in this good, good. Uh-uh-uh. Please give Kevin Van Loving.
Starting point is 01:17:35 Let Remy Ma give Kevin Van Loving the biggest hee-haw. Hee-haw, hee-haw. You stupid mother-----, are you dumb? Do it, Envy. Oh, you don't want to do the voice today, huh? You don't want to play Elmo today, do you? I was going to say, well, I'm just curious. You want to play a game?
Starting point is 01:17:48 You want to play a game? Only if you do the voice. Ask me in the voice. You want to play a game? Yes, I do. Let's play a game of... Guess what? Racing is... Hey!
Starting point is 01:18:02 Kevin Van Loven, Michigan, home inspector, walked into a nursery in a home, saw a Tickle Me Elmo doll, and had his way sexually with it. Guess what race he is! Angelie, start with you. I'll say Caucasian. Okay.
Starting point is 01:18:21 What makes you say this with such confidence? I don't know. It's just what I want it to be. Okay. Rashawn, I need you to answer in the voice the whole time, okay? Okay. Kevin Van Loven. Yes.
Starting point is 01:18:37 From Michigan. Home inspector. You're very familiar with home inspectors, right? He was in a home inspecting. He was in a nursery. Saw an Elmo doll. Had his way with the Elmo doll sexually. Guess what race he is!
Starting point is 01:18:53 Let me check! White! White! What the hell did you bend over like that for? What the hell were you checking? Looked like you wanted somebody to check you. What the hell's wrong with you? I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:19:10 I don't know. Put his mugshot up. Oh, we're not on Revolt. Are we on Revolt? We're on Revolt. Tomorrow, I guess. You both were right. This is absolutely a colonizer.
Starting point is 01:19:19 Okay? This is the highest levels of Caucasianery. Okay, the mayonnaise was very heavy in this story. All right. All right. All right, thank you for that talk. You got to register as a sex offender when you do stuff like this? If you're Kevin Van Levin?
Starting point is 01:19:34 I think it's my envy. Oh. Shut up. I'm sure that guy asked. Well, no, he probably did. It's a doll. It's a doll. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:19:45 All right. Anyway, Ask E is next. 800-585-1051. If you need relationship advice, call E now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Come on.
Starting point is 01:20:00 Need relationship advice? Need personal advice? Just need real advice. Call up now for Ask Ye. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Ye, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. It's time for Ask Ye.
Starting point is 01:20:15 Hello, who's this? Oh, yeah, this is Ashley. Ashley. You know what I'm saying, from Jersey. Good morning. What's your question for Ye? Yeah, I just want to know what I should do about my relationship. Right now, I'm going back and forth, back and forth.
Starting point is 01:20:30 You know, I'm breaking up with my girl. She's breaking up with me. You know, we both love each other. We're supposed to be getting married. But, you know, we never really break up within 24 hours, you know, because we live together, you know. So recently we just broke up, and I feel as though it's that, you know, because we live together, you know? So recently we just broke up, and I feel as though it's that, you know, October, our lease is up.
Starting point is 01:20:49 Should I just keep going back and forth, back and forth, you know? But I really love her. I just don't know what to do, you know? What do y'all keep breaking up over? It's like, I would say it's miscommunication. A lot of miscommunication. One minute, it's like it feels like I'm coming off a little bit strong. When I calm that down, you know, and realize it is miscommunication, I'll talk to her, right?
Starting point is 01:21:13 But then she's already in a mindset as in, you know, I'm coming off, I'm going to come off strong. It's already in her head that it's going to be an argument at the end of the day instead of just coming to an agreement like are we going to be at a middle ground and just work it out uh here's a couple of things that i think number one those are the worst when you're in a relationship and y'all are always breaking up every other day first of all your friends get sick of hearing about it y'all get sick of it no one believes you y'all broke up oh now y'all back together. I had to make a pact one time with a boyfriend that I had where we said, look, we'll get into arguments because being in a relationship, part of that is knowing how to argue in a healthy manner, right? Because you're not always going to agree on everything. Obviously, there's going to be times when y'all
Starting point is 01:21:58 need to figure out how to come together and work out issues that you might be having. That's just as important as being in a relationship is knowing how to healthily be able to argue and get over it and move on. And so one thing you should do is make a pact with each other that you're going to stop this silly breaking up all the time just to get back together. Because as soon as you say, I'm done, it's over, we're not together anymore, it just becomes this whole other issue. And y'all know it's not even true.
Starting point is 01:22:24 And no one even believes you guys, right? Yeah. I posted up one time. I'm like, yeah, I'm single. Everybody's like, nah, I'm not believing you this time. Or they like, oh, I can't believe it because, you know, you guys are meant for each other. Well, not meant for each other, but, you know,
Starting point is 01:22:39 we fit perfectly for each other. Right. So what y'all need to do is when you're not in the middle of an argument, discuss the things that you could both improve on within yourself and then for each other and be receptive to hearing that criticism because that's important is obviously y'all bump heads on things. You need to figure out, okay,
Starting point is 01:22:58 if we get into an argument or if we have some type of miscommunication, this is how we're going to handle it moving forward so that y'all have a game plan because it is a team effort and it is a situation where y'all not always going to be smooth, but how do I handle it when things aren't smooth? And now as far as your lease, when your lease is up, do you guys want to renew the lease? What is the discussion about that?
Starting point is 01:23:19 We were planning before about moving out the neighborhood and stuff like that, and that's good, but now it's just starting to come to the point where it's like should I just move by myself and handle what I gotta handle, move by yourself and handle what you gotta handle and then if it's
Starting point is 01:23:35 meant to be, it's meant to be. And y'all can still be together and not live together. Yeah. So if that's how you feel you want things to be, then yes, like get your own places until y'all can get to the space where, okay, let's spend a year, you in your place, I'm
Starting point is 01:23:52 in my place while we have this lease, and then let's figure out if we're going to be able to move forward and move past these differences and figure out how we can come together and work through things and not break up every other day. It drives everyone around you crazy too. Yeah. It's driving me nuts, I'm going to be honest. Yeah. So that's everyone around you crazy too. Yeah, it's driving me nuts. I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 01:24:07 Yeah. So that's what I'm really thinking. Listen, so many people have that issue. Yeah, it's more so like, you know, I'll go into my separate little, you know, side and I get a little text like, oh, come over here right quick, you know. I think we're going to talk about it
Starting point is 01:24:23 and it's just like more like a cuddle session. Right. And look, it's just, you know, let's, I think we're going to talk about it and it's just like more like a cuddle session or like, you know. And look, it's just, to me, it seems like y'all love each other, you know you want to be together but the arguing is like dysfunctional how y'all communicate with each other and that's the problem that y'all need to fix because there's nothing normal about arguing and breaking
Starting point is 01:24:40 up every other day. Yeah. Alright, thank you so much. Alright, no problem. Alright, ask me problem all right ask you guys 800 585 105 1 if you need relationship at any advice or any type of advice hit you now it's the breakfast club good morning everybody is DJ envye, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We're in the middle of Ask Yee. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 01:25:10 This is Ana. Ana, what's up? What's your question for Yee? Hi, Yee. Hey, Ana. I have issues in my relationship, and it's been to where, like, okay, I went through his phone, and then I stopped going through his phone, and then he'll go through mine, but then don't want me to go through his phone and then I stopped going through his phone and then he would go through mine, but then don't want me to go through his.
Starting point is 01:25:27 And I'm trying not to be a hypocrite and him, you know, he's a hypocrite. I don't understand. And it's become an issue. And it's just like, do you not go through your significant other's phone? Do you leave them alone? Like, how would you guys? Why are y'all going through each other's phone? Because it seems like a deeper issue than just touching somebody else's property and reading their personal messages.
Starting point is 01:25:49 What is the reason behind that? That's what you really need to get at. Well, it has been an issue, like, in the beginning. I did, you know, that might be something that might pop up, and I'm looking around, that don't look right. So I would go through it, and then there will be a bigger issue that has happened and it has been you know infidelity not well it just it didn't feel right to me and so I feel like since that happened it's just been more of an issue like okay can I trust you and everything else like I trust him now I haven't been to a phone or anything like that everything's been okay but
Starting point is 01:26:23 it's just like still now you know he might just pop on my phone if he is not a real problem. Because I do suppose that he is. And, you know, different couples are different, right? Like, some people have access to each other's, full access to each other's phones, no problem. And some people feel like, look, you don't know what me and my friends are discussing, family members. I don't really need anybody going through my phone. And it's also a symbol of do you not trust me? Why are you going through my phone?
Starting point is 01:26:48 It's not like you just use my phone because you forgot yours at home or anything like that. It's because there's trust issues. And that's what it really is that y'all need to work through is the trust issues. The phone is just a symptom of that. But the real issue is y'all don't trust each other fully. For some reason, he doesn't trust you. Right. And that's the thing, though. When he he's going to my phone there's nothing in my phone there's nothing to find in my phone because i don't do anything and the issue is when i look at his
Starting point is 01:27:14 and it's like okay now now it may not be a big deal but you're still hiding some from me and that's where i don't like communication everything falls short even though we have right little stuff that is being here and you know it's like a tit-for-tat thing like you found some stuff on his phone so now he's trying to go through yours to see if he could find something so he could be like well you did this because maybe it'll take away some of the heat that's on him for stuff that you found on his phone and you know some people will tell you well if you go looking for something you're gonna find something but will tell you, well, if you go looking for something, you're going to find something.
Starting point is 01:27:46 But the truth to the matter is, if you're looking for something, it's because you think something is going on, right? Because you wouldn't be doing this if you felt confident and secure. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. So y'all need to figure out how do you feel confident and secure. And you need to discuss those things. What is it that you can do for me to make me feel more secure?
Starting point is 01:28:03 What can he do that's going to make you feel like, okay, he's not doing anything? What are some of the steps that he needs to take? Really, communication and making sure that you at least enlighten me on some of the things that's going on, regardless if it's petty or if it's not. Like, you know, it would be better for me to know about some of the things. So then when I actually see it, let's say I see it, you know, I won't be upset about it because I can tell him about it. Right, over-explain everything to me.
Starting point is 01:28:30 I don't care if it's little. I just want to know what's going on, who you're communicating with, who this person is, so that I feel comfortable. And he should be okay with that. Have you told him that? Yes. We have been working on it, so it kind of has been getting better,
Starting point is 01:28:44 but it's just, you know, I don't know. I feel like for an open relationship, you know, for us to be open for each other and everything else, I feel like, you know, a phone shouldn't be a problem. It shouldn't be a problem if I so happen to ask you, can I go to your, I mean, not go to your phone, but can I see your phone? You know, let me see your phone for a second. It shouldn't be an issue of you standing over me and looking over me like you're being suspicious about it. Right. Well, maybe what y'all need to do is make a pact with each other.
Starting point is 01:29:10 As long as you are fulfilling these things, because I'm sure there's some things that he needs you to do also for him. Right. Right. It's a give and take. If you guys can be open and receptive to those things, then maybe you make an agreement. Let's not go through each other's phones anymore. Let's try to do this with trust and see what happens. Now, if things fall apart, then it might be you having to figure out,
Starting point is 01:29:30 is this a situation I want to remain in and stay in if I'm not feeling secure? But let's work on trusting each other. And it's a process because y'all don't have trust right now, and it might take a while to build that back up. Thank you. And I had a question for the Mary Ben, too, because how are you guys' relationships back?
Starting point is 01:29:48 How do you live not so long? How did you guys get to the point where you're at with your life? Shutting the hell up and listening. Well. I ain't laughing. Make sense. And trust me, those phones have been gone through too.
Starting point is 01:30:06 Yeah. My wife has access to my phone. Actually, she posts some stuff on Instagram for me. Right now, but I'm just saying it was a process to get to that point. When I grew up and I realized what I wanted, and my wife is the love of my life, and I don't want to do nothing stupid to hurt her. So, yeah, we have an open relationship.
Starting point is 01:30:22 We're open as far as our phones are concerned. I can leave my phone on the counter. She knows my passcodes. She knows the passcodes to everything. I know the passcodes to hurt her. So yeah, we have an open relationship. We're open as far as our phones are concerned. I can leave my phone on the counter. She knows my passcodes. She knows the passcodes to everything. I know the passcodes to all her stuff too. It is what it is. That's where I'm trying to get to. That's where I feel like, you know, it shouldn't be a problem. Like, that's my problem
Starting point is 01:30:38 that it feels like it's a problem when it comes to stuff like that. And I don't want to be a problem because at one point I didn't even have a password on my phone. Right. But you still don't want to say that because at one point, I didn't even have a password on my phone. Right. But you still don't want him going through your phone, right? I don't. Me, I never cared.
Starting point is 01:30:50 That's my big thing. I never cared if he did or didn't. My issue is like, you have a password on your phone and I don't even have one. And then he had the necessary password onto his Facebook. It's like, why do you have a password to your Facebook? Like, why? So you're more concerned about his phone
Starting point is 01:31:06 because I felt like you were saying you didn't want him going through your phone and he keeps doing it. Well, I don't feel like he should go through my phone if I haven't been going through his. I don't care if it's a ghost or not. It's just the fact that I feel like it should be equal 50-50 for that. I just don't want y'all to feel like y'all gotta go through
Starting point is 01:31:22 each other's phones. I want you to get to that point. If you're using his phone or he's using yours, it's not because you're going through it. Yeah, that's true. Well, thank you so much for your help, and thank you, guys. You guys have a wonderful morning. Peace. You too. All right.
Starting point is 01:31:35 Ask Yee. 800-585-1051. If you need relationship advice, you can hit Yee. Now, we got rumors on the way? Yes, and let's talk about Serena Williams and her new deal. All right, we'll get into that next. It's And let's talk about Serena Williams and her new deal. All right. We'll get into that next. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:31:47 Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Russell Wilson and Ciara are going to be hosting NBC's Roll Up Your Sleeves TV special that's happening on Sunday. Now, there'll be influential people like Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Charles Barkley, Shaquille O'Neal, Dr. Fauci,
Starting point is 01:32:16 of course, is involved. And they said it's going to educate viewers, raise awareness, and dispel concerns surrounding the COVID-19 vaccines. I don't know if this is the week to do that. When they're recalling vaccines? Maybe next week. How can you dispel rumors or people's fear around the vaccine
Starting point is 01:32:31 when you're actually recalling the vaccine because it's doing things to people? Well, the Johnson & Johnson one, at least. The show will aim to inform and encourage those who have vaccination concerns to learn the facts. Now, do you say on the show all of them except for Johnson & Johnson?
Starting point is 01:32:46 We can't speak for that, but this is only about Moderna and Pfizer. Do you at least say that? Do you acknowledge that, at least? Yeah, I mean, they kind of have to, because it was recalled, right? Yeah, Dr. Fauci's on it, and he's already spoken about Johnson & Johnson being paused for now because of concerns
Starting point is 01:33:02 about blood clots. For women, by the way, all six people that had complications were women. So that's on Sunday. All right. Serena Williams has inked a first look deal with Amazon studios and she spoke to vanity fair about it. I just signed a first look deal with Amazon studios. And so we're working on to create some scripted and non-scripted stuff and products and just bring really interesting stories that really touch the heart to the screen.
Starting point is 01:33:30 Also doing a docuseries on yours truly, but just, you know, kind of following it around, but through my eyes and through my lens. And so I'm actually joining the EP credits on that as well. I'm dropping a Clues Monster, Serena Williams. I love it. Anytime folks get money to create, I'm all for it. She was actually talking to Michael B. Jordan during Vanity Fair's inaugural Cocktail Hour Live event. And he gave her some tips too, if you want to check that out.
Starting point is 01:33:58 All right, Bridgerton has been renewed for seasons three and four already by Netflix. So yeah, season two hasn't even happened yet, but they've already renewed it for seasons three and four already by Netflix. So yeah, season two hasn't even happened yet, but they've already renewed it for seasons three and four. In a statement, Shonda Rhimes said, from the first time I read Julia Quinn's delicious Bridgerton series, I knew these were stories that would captivate a viewing audience, but the evolution of this adaptation would not be a success without the many significant contributions of the entire Shondaland team. This two-season pickup is a strong vote of confidence
Starting point is 01:34:26 in our work, and I feel incredibly grateful to have partners as collaborative and creative as Netflix. That's dope, because it helps you create such an intricate storyline, because you know where you're going. You know how many seasons you got. Yeah, I mean, there's going to be some surprises the next couple of seasons.
Starting point is 01:34:44 Oh, you're on it? Shut up. I didn't say that. I just said some surprises. It's not happening. I have no faith in you. Don't believe in you at all. I believe in myself. You're a liar. Alright, now Javante Davis had posted on his Instagram story. I don't know if y'all saw this. I can't stop cheating on my
Starting point is 01:34:59 girl. And then he said, I'm effing retarded. Alright, so those are the posts. And his girlfriend is Nessa, rich girl Nessa. And she posted, I hate my lur daughter actually went and was going back and forth on social media as well. So it turned into a whole big thing. But Javante wants people to know he was on Snapchat that he is not cheating. Here's what he posted. So I'm only making this video right now just so nothing won't think I'm out here cheating.
Starting point is 01:35:45 I'm with this and this. So he's showing who he's with to show that he's not cheating. He also said that he's not the person that posted that. He said none of that BS was me. So I don't know if he's trying to say somebody else posted it. I don't know. Now, are we sure she didn't get a hold of her of his password? You know what I mean? And got into his account
Starting point is 01:36:06 to post that? I'm just asking here. That's embarrassing. I don't know if I want to post that. Like, if I'm the girlfriend, I can't stop cheating on my girl. Why would I want to post that? And then it's the retarded part after that. It's like she's doing that on purpose.
Starting point is 01:36:22 That's the point. The shame him. I don't know. I have no idea what point, to shame him. I don't know. I have no idea what happened, but he's saying it wasn't him. All right, that is your rumor report. Okay, all right. Well, shout to Revolt. We'll see you tomorrow. Everybody else, the People's Choice mixes up next.
Starting point is 01:36:37 Let's go. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, shout to the Lucas Brothers for joining us this morning. Salute to the Lucas Brothers, man. Brilliant, you know, talented individuals who are now Oscar nominated. I mean, I just like to see people come up because I remember when they were doing Friends of the People on TruTV
Starting point is 01:36:59 with my guy Lil Rel and Jermaine Fowler and the late, great Kevin Barnett. And to see them, you know, writing a movie now that's Oscar-nominated, you know, it's super inspiring. So salute to the Lucas Brothers, man. Newark, New Jersey's on. All right. Bridge City. All right.
Starting point is 01:37:16 Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now it's time to get up out of here, man. You guys have a great day today. Also today, I'll actually be doing a live at 1 p.m. and I'll be with Coach Jesse and it's called Save Our Moms,
Starting point is 01:37:33 Black Maternal Health and Equity. So it's on the heels of the first ever proclamation of Black Maternal Health Week that was founded by Black Mamas Matter in 2017. And I'll be talking to Coach Jesse, including some other very special guests as well. We'll be talking about these critical health issues and what we can do to save our moms
Starting point is 01:37:50 by advancing health equity legislatively in the healthcare system and personally. So make sure y'all tune in for that at 1 p.m. today. All right. Charlamagne, you got a positive note for the people? I do, man. The positive note is simply this. Setting boundaries isn't always easy or nice, but it's necessary, spiritual, and empowering.
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