The Breakfast Club - TMI: The Enemy On My Head

Episode Date: May 18, 2025

The Black Effect Presents... TMI! This episode, Tamika and Mysonne discuss the corporate accountability, particularly in relation to the Target boycott, and the health risks associated with beauty pro...ducts for Black women, culminating in the journey of Dosso Beauty, a non-toxic hair care brand. In this conversation, the founder of the product Kadidja Dosso discusses the significant health disparities faced by Black individuals, particularly regarding cosmetic safety and the lack of FDA regulation. They emphasize the importance of community support and cultural nepotism in fostering Black entrepreneurship and also highlights the need for consumer awareness regarding product testing and the impact of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives on Black entrepreneurs. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:14 I collect my roommates' toenails and fingernails. Those were some callers from my call-in podcast, Therapy Gecko. It's a show where I take phone calls from anonymous strangers as a fake gecko therapist and try to learn a little bit about their lives. I know that's a weird concept, but I promise it's very interesting.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Check it out for yourself by searching for Therapy Gecko on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, host of the podcast, Are You a Charlotte? Sarah Jessica Parker is here and she is sharing stories from the very beginning, like the time she forgot we filmed the pilot episode. I remember some things about shooting the pilot. Right. I have some memories I can fill you in.
Starting point is 00:01:58 You're going to fill me in. Yes. But then you forgot about it in the very long time they took to pick us up. Listen to Are You aotte on the iHeart Radio app Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts I'm Tamika D Mallory and it's your boy my son in general We are your host of TMI Tamika and my songs information truth motivation and inspiration new name new energy, but same oh us What's going on my son Lennon, um good motivation and inspiration. New name, new energy, but. Same old us. Ha ha.
Starting point is 00:02:28 What's going on my son Lennon? Um, good. Actively black, Muhammad Ali. I love the actively black. Yes, yes. Yes, that's our thing. That's my thing. And I can't even say anything cause you put me on and you was telling me,
Starting point is 00:02:41 you need to be and I was like, okay. Got to get you some actively black. That's right, I love activelyively Black, that's our people. So the State of the People Power Tour is in progress and for people who don't know, the State of the People Power Tour is an effort that came out of the State of the People 24-hour marathon that ran at the same time that Donald Trump was intending to do his, what he did, his State of the Union address.
Starting point is 00:03:15 We said they're going to be lying and fear-mongering and hate-throwing. It's so funny because anyway, I'll say, we that's what we said. That's what they're gonna be doing over here We are going to be organizing educating and forming our people and you know coming together in community and I just really have to give a lot of credit to the entire state of the people Family because it is certainly a labor of love. A lot of people are involved and working 24 hours a day
Starting point is 00:03:49 under the guidance of our drill sergeant captain, which is Angela Rye, who has been keeping us going from day to day. Shout out to Angela. Absolutely, we have to have her on to talk about what we have been able to accomplish as a team. And she's really, really committed to keeping us on task, making sure it doesn't fall apart,
Starting point is 00:04:14 that people don't be like, oh, I'm busy, I got this going on, you know how we do. It always takes somebody to drive the mission. And she definitely is taking on that role. And I know how hard it is because as you know I often am in that role and you know it gets to be really difficult but the state of the people power tour is now a tour across the country that really is designed to is designed to examine our power, right?
Starting point is 00:04:45 Which we know we have, right? People locally have been doing work for a long, they ain't never been able to depend on systems. It doesn't matter who's in office, Democrats, Republicans, whoever it is, maybe in their local town it might be independent. They still have to have systems in place to ensure that the black community specifically and of course other vulnerable populations, but this is about black folks,
Starting point is 00:05:12 that they can survive sustainability. And we have never ever been able to rely on the government to do everything that's necessary on a hyper, hyper, hyper local level for our communities. Now, you have some people who get in charge and they make things worse, and some people who marginally or incrementally make things better, or at least they don't do much harm to our communities. And that's kind of where we find ourselves.
Starting point is 00:05:42 And I respect that there are people who are just tired of Participating in that cycle. So the state of the people power tour is not about who you voting for It is it isn't about the now for some people locally it is for them because they have people that they got You know running for office and you know people who they believe are better for their communities and that's fine We're not in any way in charge of that this tour is not endorsing any particular candidates this tour is not about that it is really about building power and being in community with our people traveling the country meeting folks who have solutions because again these people been doing this work they like hey you know we know this is pretty terrible everything that's happened in this country but over
Starting point is 00:06:24 here we have farmers market so we know this is pretty terrible, everything that's happening in this country, but over here, we have farmer's market, so we know how to feed one another. We have jobs that we've created, community centers, anti-violence programs, ways to govern our own communities. You know, we do all that over here. So we go around the country finding our people, some of them we know, others we're meeting in this process,
Starting point is 00:06:46 uplift their work. We have these big platforms, Million Here, Million, this one a million people, that one a million people, all those different organizations have so many people. So building power is important. Again, being a community. And then you have people, mice, who are seriously afraid. They may have been impacted or they're in a situation, And then you have people, mice, who are seriously afraid.
Starting point is 00:07:05 They may have been impacted or they're in a situation, maybe they're in a job, because black folks are in jobs where the diversity, equity and inclusion rollbacks are impacting them. So they've either lost their jobs. There's a lot of black folks that may not be talking about it, but they may not be talking about it publicly, but they certainly calling us behind the scenes
Starting point is 00:07:28 saying they threatening us, they're changing everything, they take out black, take out specific language that's for our communities. You know, these things are happening. You got people work for the federal government that are being terminated. You got folks who are feeling it and they know. And a lot of times because of the lawsuits, they always telling you don't talk too much about it because there's not much you can say when they're fighting to get you reinstated to get the federal workers back.
Starting point is 00:07:59 So, but there are a lot of people who are afraid. There's some people, none of that's happened too. They just sitting back watching and they're saying, what in the hell is going on? I'm afraid, I'm scared. And we don't want our people to be out there feeling like the movement has somehow gone black or whatever, dark, dark is a better way to describe it.
Starting point is 00:08:18 No, we're still active. We're still organizing, we're still meeting, we're still strategizing. And I think I love this. Angela says that this tour is a love letter to black people, that we still here and we with you and you are with us and we're in this together. And when I think about the people who have been major players, I mean, there's so many people I do not even want to get in trouble by naming the folks, but I do suggest that people go to stateoftheppl.com, that stateoftheppl.com, where you can learn
Starting point is 00:08:51 more about those folks who are engaged, people who are organizing. And you know, many of you have already noticed that there is a meme where you see more and more black people saying I'm in I'm in I'm a participate somehow in this tour and so it's ten cities which is the initial part of the tour there's to be more to be done afterwards everywhere we've already kicked off in Atlanta also North Carolina, and moving forward to New Orleans, to Birmingham, Alabama, to California, Alta Dena specifically, going to Detroit, Michigan,
Starting point is 00:09:37 and doing some impactful work. And I know there are more places, but again, go do the research. Check it out. Find out where you can come. Newark, New Jersey, Louisville, Kentucky which our organization until freedom is really engaged in those two cities and a lot of people people with all different skills and backgrounds that's what I love on one thing about trauma when your community or when we get hit with trauma the one thing we will do is figure out how
Starting point is 00:10:06 to come together. And what I love about the State of the People Power Tour is that you have people working together who are like bonafide grass roots down to the ground activists. I'm talking about the ones that you see them and you will never see them in a room with other people but then you also have folks who are in the more considered to be, let's be clear, talented, 10th, whatever that means. I take that back. That's not even a thing but people who may see themselves to be very elite and they are working. The Black bourgeoisie. Well, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:47 They don't really like being. Well, they don't like being coded, but I'm saying the grassroots would normally consider them. That's what the grassroots would do. The nigg-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o- of time in history where all people black, all people in marginalized communities really realize how... Not all people realize. Well, I'm just saying the majority. People realize the times we're in.
Starting point is 00:11:14 If you've experienced, see what's happening is this, those who have experienced the luxuries ways of being able to benefit from the accommodations made in our constitution and being able to benefit off DEI and being able to go to school based off DEI and being able to get jobs based off those situations not because they weren't smart enough because they didn't have opportunities and opportunities were provided for them and now they're able to create generational wealth or were able to create generational wealth and seeing those things diminish and disappear and those who never had that are now realizing that they're on the same exact wavelength. And now they have to come together and we have to come together and create what the agenda for black America is and be united in that.
Starting point is 00:12:01 And like you said, it's trauma. Unfortunately we always unite in that. And like you said, it's trauma. Unfortunately, we always unite in trauma. That's why we say, we look at situations, a lot of people say, this Trump presidency, even though it's way worse than the last one, it's what it's going to take to make us revolt in a manner that we need to, to come together and create what it is that is necessary for black people. And I think this is one of those steps in which we go into different states and different towns and we're getting the agenda and finding out what do you believe that we need to be doing. I think that's what's always been an issue.
Starting point is 00:12:33 We all have our individual and say, well, me and my people, we need this. What do we all need collectively that we can have so it doesn't matter who the candidate is that we come to and say, hey matter who the candidate is, right? Right. That we come to and say, hey, this right here is what we need. Black people all around this country said this is what we need. And when they realize that that's what it is, it's going to take to get our votes and to move us. And then we could create our own candidates, right?
Starting point is 00:13:00 Because now we have a prototype of what it is. So we're actually growing our own candidates. We're growing our own elected officials because now we have a prototype of what it is. So we actually growing our own candidates. We're growing our own elected officials because now we have a blueprint of exactly what we want. We're sending our kids to the schools. We're educating them in a manner. We utilize all of our skill sets because now you have those have been in the suites
Starting point is 00:13:17 and those have been in the streets and they're getting a little bit of the people from the streets and they're gonna teach you how to fight there and then they're telling you, the suites is telling you how you navigate your- Strategies. Strategizing. And that's what it's gonna take.
Starting point is 00:13:27 It's gonna take a very nuanced, complex, multi, you know, intersectional movement for us because that's what they've done. They've created someone who has the will of their poor people, right? To the will. The will, he appeals to the fact that they feel like they've been disenfranchised, right?
Starting point is 00:13:53 Then he appeals to the white supremacists who have money and money is a- Wanna be white supremacists. Well, wanna be white supremacists who just wanna focus on money and they're appealing to everything. They're appealing into the lower vibration in every one of these people. That's what America is. America is so built on low
Starting point is 00:14:10 vibrations that it seems like the majority but it's not. Just because that's what media and social media teaches us or promotes to us is that's what we need to focus on the more low vibrational thing. We've got to focus on if I don't got money then I ain't got this. If we ain't got sex, if we ain't got this, if we ain't hoarding all of the resources we need, it's only us. There's a whole world and they have made us believe America, America first is such a crazy thing to me because we have a whole world with billions of people in it and we're sitting there telling people, nah, we're going to alienate it, we're just going to focus on it. That ideology in itself is a failing ideology, right? Because we're supposed to be happy.
Starting point is 00:14:54 It's resources. When we travel outside of this country, right, and we visit other countries, we realize how beautiful it is, how many different nationalities, how many different cultures it is. Why would we want to isolate ourselves to just America? For what? How is that benefit? Why would we not want to trade with other countries and build with other countries and be unified with other countries and not have to focus on we got to have four or five allies
Starting point is 00:15:19 because we might have to go to war? Every week. Every week. It doesn't even make sense. But that's what they have succeeded in doing because people are disenfranchised and they are purposely disenfranchised. They've created all of these things about the immigrants and this and they tell you that the reason why you ain't got stuff is because the immigrants got it. But they stealing billions of dollars and they make billions of dollars and they able
Starting point is 00:15:43 to spend 200 million a day on shit that makes no sense but you don't have nothing because the immigrant that came here that didn't have nothing is trying to get a job. They make you focus on him and not focus on people who's really stealing from you. This is what America is. I think in this time right now, blacks need to be on code, on cue, and on point about what it is necessary for us to get to where we need to be on code, on cue, and on point about what it is necessary for us to get to where we need to be. Well, there's gonna be some people who gonna say, well, Ice Cube, he had a plan and he put the plan forward
Starting point is 00:16:16 and people didn't follow or support. And y'all said, I wanna remind folks that, cause I saw somebody tell a lot the other day that I didn't support him. of other day that I didn't... We attacked Q, we didn't support him. Yeah. No, no, no, no. What I said was time and it's everything.
Starting point is 00:16:32 And when you in the middle of a moment where Lucifer is trying to become president in this very second right here... And you're humanizing this. Well, he met with me about my thing, but he never had... But because he didn't do nothing about what he met on. Because he never was. He met on it and didn't do anything. But he was strategic about that. But okay fine whatever. What I said again let me repeat myself is that the time to present the plan is when there was 900,000 people running for the Democratic nomination, right? That was the time to present the plan
Starting point is 00:17:10 so that you could find somebody of those 900,000 people. My thing is this, even if it wasn't a Democrat, it wasn't Trump, right? If you were saying to yourself that you liked the Republicans better, they were sane Republicans. It was actually some sane Republicans. Well, at that time, but remember, they didn't have,
Starting point is 00:17:24 they didn't have a... Oh yeah, they didn't even have a... I mean, I think they had a primary, but they decided pretty quickly he was going to be the guy. Yeah, whatever it was. So I'm saying that there was a time when there was 900,000 people running, and all I'm suggesting is that that was a great time for us to know that you had the plan so we could go force the people to do the stuff
Starting point is 00:17:48 that's in the plan. And it's ultimate and ultimately. Well, I'm sorry, one last thing. And number two is that some of us might've wanted to see the plan so we could've actually helped to promote it. Because if it's a plan for black America, it should be a bunch of blacks.
Starting point is 00:18:03 There'll be a lot of people that know about it. That sit around, it should be a bunch of blacks that sit around. It should be hundreds, not thousands of black people that feel like they have an input. That see and understand because you're going to go meet with people about your plan that's for us. About plan for us. Yeah. I don't know. I think it was a good faith.
Starting point is 00:18:18 It was a good faith. I think it was a good faith. I just think that when you understand, organize it, and when you're doing something by the people and for the people, then the people gotta be involved. Oh, there's that. So, the Hint to the Target boycott from day one. We've been trying to keep everybody informed with everything.
Starting point is 00:18:35 It's not easy. It's not easy. So, for my thought of the day today. So, you know there's a lot happening with bully Trump and his co-partner Co-president Ilana, where is Ilana? Have you seen Ilana in Alaska? I see Ilana Ilana said y'all
Starting point is 00:19:05 I'm trying to figure it out. He lost it. Look, y'all messing up this bread, man. Okay. And then, and I bet you some other people probably called the White House and said- I haven't heard from him since JD Vance was talking about him. Yeah. I bet you some white boat called down there to the White House and said, y'all have to get this man out of here cuz he is too much he's probably
Starting point is 00:19:27 you over it's my head and chainsaw which I didn't even know that so there's some saying so we ain't heard from him but that doesn't mean he's not still doing this thing plus they don't already allegedly you know took what they need and they say the Trump's carrots were stupid. So I heard from system either. It's just it's just Where's he we should do? Where's you on bus? Right, but he definitely needs to be gone and not but until it's an announcement that he's absolutely gone Then he's not gone and Trump said the other day. Oh, well, I what he say he he say? He said, no, he's very talented. At some point he was gonna have to go back. It ain't been a year.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Some point you gotta go back to work. Yeah, it ain't even a year. Stop trying, we know Three Card Molly. We saw that before. You've been doing this a long time. We're from New York City. We know exactly about Three Card Molly. We know Three Card Molly.
Starting point is 00:20:24 So anywho, anywho, I was thinking, you know, because we've been saying as it relates to this whole Target situation, which by the way, a bunch of non-believers, oh, you know, everybody, not everybody, but there were people, why Target? Why are you doing this? First of all, trying to get folks to focus on 16 things at one time, it has not ever worked. It is, it's just, we just, and the way that the world moves in the speed of lightning, if you don't have a focus on something, your attention deficit disorder
Starting point is 00:21:00 can just take you spiraling out of control. So we know what we do, anyway. So with that being said, but as we've been talking, and I told you that in a conversation with a meeting that we had with the Target executives, Nina Turner, Jamal Bryan and myself, we asked
Starting point is 00:21:25 what is the difference between Target and Delta Target and Costco right because those folks have said ten toes down we'd stay in with diversity equity and inclusion right now they need to say they're gonna do better which we can keep this there's levels to this thing but they said they're sticking with it, they're not getting rid of their programs. So what is the difference with Target? And it made me, and when I said it on the call, sure, I believe that, I know,
Starting point is 00:21:56 but it becomes more crystal clear to me as I watch Harvard. Because Harvard is being bullied. Donald Trump says he wants, he gonna hold $2 billion. Now he's up to another billion. And Harvard said, listen, you can kick rocks. We gonna sue you, we gonna fight you. And we're saying, no, we're not. They produce the best lawyers in the world.
Starting point is 00:22:23 That's right. Do you know they legal team. That's right. Do you know they legal that's why a little well some of they do produce very very good lawyers but there's some great lawyers that are coming from HBC use and other right they do they do they do people who gone to Harvard for the most part if they really were they're not just because they just because somebody bought their way in, because we saw that, we know how that was going down, but people who really went there and studied, they get something from it, and absolutely,
Starting point is 00:22:52 so you're right. But Harvard said, kick rocks, not doing it. Now, the funny thing about it, and by the way, Harvard has an endowment, billions of dollars of an endowment. That's what endowments are for. Something happened, there's a rainy day or a situation, you can still take care of your business
Starting point is 00:23:13 and maintain the institution no matter what's going on. That is a lot of rules and this and voting and boards and whatever, but nonetheless, that's what you have. You have a pocket of money or a bucket of money that is there to sustain you, right? So they basically like let's play a game, because we know you.
Starting point is 00:23:33 You wanna bully us, but if we look the devil in his eye, he'll flee from you. That's right. Is that not? That's the word. Is that not the word? Okay, Columbia pretty much has said they was going to do whatever Trump wanted, right? They announced, we hear you, we're going to get rid of this and that and do, we're going to
Starting point is 00:23:53 do this to the students and put these rules and I mean they went along with a bunch of stuff that was crazy and embarrassing. When Harvard said we're going to fight back and created, or whoever created, the Big Ten, which is a bunch of educational institutions that are joining forces to fight back, now Columbia has sort of started to walk back some of what they've agreed to. Columbia's like, yeah, actually, we're really not going to let the federal government take away all of our autonomy. That's their statement, quote, unquote, right? It took the courage of one to stand up.
Starting point is 00:24:35 And now that courage has become contagious. One became contagious. Now other people are like, oh, okay, yeah, I can stand up too. I'm going to speak out too. to I'm gonna join the fight. And my thought of the day is that we have to no matter what the nation be people and you're on your team, your family members, your friends, people to the left and right of you are telling you, this ain't gonna work, why y'all in Target? What about John and this company and that company? Yeah, them companies, they also need to be on the list. But it takes you to be able to show one, just one, just one, since we as black women especially like to go to your store and we walk around
Starting point is 00:25:21 for four, five hours and we became besties with you because Michelle Obama said y'all was Tarjay. Somebody reminded me of that the other day. Michelle Obama said y'all was Tarjay and we love it. We love you. And we up in there spending money and you got the audacity first of all to say you gonna roll something back and didn't even meet with the business owners
Starting point is 00:25:42 or the people, the community, and you wanna meet now? Maybe you should have met before, but you would have had to respect your consumer base and respect the people who actually are helping to keep your company in one of the top whatever number they are of those big box brands. So for me it just reminds me and it underscores that we are on the right issues. That if you are a company who has decided that you want to stand with those
Starting point is 00:26:13 or at least try to somehow seem like you're on the same page with this administration's racism, bigotry, and oppression suppression of people, we have the right to say we don't even need to argue with you, let's just take out those stuff. I little bit of, you don't need it. You didn't even need it. You didn't.
Starting point is 00:26:34 You didn't even need it. So simple thought of the day is, it takes the courage of one, and it takes the sometimes a precise battle to be able to spread to others to one alert them. We're not playing. Yeah. And to show us the power of what we can do when we come together. Listen, boycott target, boycott target because target is boycott of that. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:27:06 We just following suit, man. You don't want us. You know what I'm saying? We get it, man. You said, look, I'm breaking up with you and we said we won't go. No, they said we breaking up, but we still got some stuff for you,
Starting point is 00:27:17 but it just, we can't tell everybody. No, they just wanna have sex with you. Oh, God, Jesus, my son. See, they don't wanna go with you no more, but they wanna call you a little booty call here. No, you can't want to go, you know, I see that want to go to the mall, but they want to call you a little booty call Hit me. No, my son My god, forget it. You can't get none of this Oh my god, now you realize you got that we had that good good and you like damn
Starting point is 00:27:37 What we gonna do? Yeah Thank you, you know more booty call that you Thank you. Thank you No more booty called down Break up with us in the daytime and try to get a little bit at night time. It ain't gonna work man. So we on you Moving right look do you have the TMI for today? Are people still doing too much? People are doing way way too much. I don't know if this is too much right because you know Trump's tariffs Would they have to like 245 percent against China so we're not I mean this is like not even making sense the word
Starting point is 00:28:15 What? Formula come from we're in a tariff war with a country a nation that we have allowed To outsource most of our things with in hopes that now people in America say, you know what, we're just going to build all the things that they got and we're going to fund out. But now what we're doing is we're eliminating the fact that we have import export companies that are going to be disenfranchised. We have certain trucking businesses that they can't to those docks to get them all of these places
Starting point is 00:28:45 that have built their industries off the import export building on business mainly going to China are going to close down. So only thing you do is actually sacrificing your interchanging them so it's not going to build anything and you're going to end the relationship with the country. But that's not even a thing. Right now, China has said, okay, so we at war. So what I'm gonna do is let y'all know. The consumer. The consumer. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Them $5,000 bags y'all paying for, they made right here in this little factory for about 30, $40. And if you want them, we can ship them to you personally. Since this what y'all want to do We're gonna let you know the back is made in China It ain't made in whatever you think it is and we got them right here. They charging you 5,000 10,000 We got them for about 50 hundred hours, man
Starting point is 00:29:39 Which you would hit the other 50 hundred they charge a 50 hundred and they on every site let you know this Oh, this this the game Yeah, I want to play they playing dirty. So are they doing too much by exposing because I think that people are stupid anyway Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I love to spend more money because it was saying cost more money It's more value So they let y'all know that they be playing y'all and some people So they letting y'all know that they be playing y'all. And some people gonna be like, I'm not buying it. And it's the same bag.
Starting point is 00:30:06 This is how we have been conditioned to just do bullshit. It's the same bag. If somebody put the same exact bag and they tell you this bag right here is $500 and this one is 50,000. Some people will say, I want that 50,000. $50,000 bag. And you gonna buy it. So I'm just saying to myself, Some people will say, I want that $50,000 bag.
Starting point is 00:30:25 And you're gonna buy it. So I'm just saying to myself, is it even gonna work because we so materialistic and we wanna have what's called high level fashion anyway. That once- High end. High end and high level, whatever it is, high end fashion anyway, that people gonna still
Starting point is 00:30:41 wanna pay $5,000 for a $30 bag. So are they doing too much? Are they wasting their time? Is it gonna make sense? Are we gonna fall for it? Cause listen to me, China, let me get about 10, 20 bags. I know I can sell them here.
Starting point is 00:30:55 I can really get you just- No, but you can't sell them because the logo is not gonna be on them. See, that's the thing. The reason why the bags cost more money is because the people like, Hermes is one that China put this information out about. Hermes puts, first of all, this is so crazy.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Which when I was watching the video, I said, whew. They said China ships the product to Europe. Europe puts the stamp and the serial number and all the hardware on it that comes from Hermes. And then they send it over here to America. So when they send it over here, they send it from Europe. So you think you can use some European stuff That's what China said now
Starting point is 00:31:52 They don't say made in Europe I think it might still say made in China or maybe it doesn't say it at all because I'm gonna imagine they paid him a Little more to take everything off of it. I have to look cuz I am a victim. I'm not a victim. It's by choice. It's by choice. It's by choice. But I'm not a person that says I'm not willing to buy this $500 thing. I'd rather the 50,000. I have all of it. I got something. I don't have nothing 50,000, but I have all of it. I have high end stuff suppose, you know, quote unquote with the logo. And I have things that I value that are very good quality that come from different people,
Starting point is 00:32:27 and especially black folks, that cost something that is much more reasonable. So I'm across the spectrum, just to be clear. However, I am one of those people who have purchased things that are very expensive, and it came from this brand and that brand. So I'm just saying that when China puts this information out, it does make you sit back and be like, this is very interesting.
Starting point is 00:32:55 They sent it to Europe. And Europe says it does. Yeah, because you don't really care. You will wear a little bit of name brand, but that ain't your thing. It's not a thing because I realized that somebody is jerking you. Somebody is skimming the skin. It's funny. That was funny though.
Starting point is 00:33:09 When you start selling clothes and you get into fashion, you start realizing that you go downtown and people is buying $20 and $30 jeans, they're bringing up town, they're selling for $200. So if that's just happening in the micro, I know what these people is making and how they doing it. So listen, might be TMI, but might not be. There's that. It might not be TMI. Maybe, I think people need to know.
Starting point is 00:33:37 They need to know, go look it up. Take your time. Because there are people out here that kill over this stuff. And die over it. Work their whole life life won't buy nothing else before they get whatever this thing is that has a symbol of status. So but that that was you. That was a good one.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Yeah, it was very hilarious. Now speaking of where folks are getting products and stuff, man, I tell you, they trying to kill us. This lady that is coming up right now, our next guest is about to talk about something that's really serious, like our health is at risk for people's greed, for people's lack of care. And again, a lot of stuff that we're getting from other places around the world,
Starting point is 00:34:23 they really don't care if it's killing black women and killing black people And so we're about to learn a little bit more about that And like I said, it's really personal for me because I'm one of the individuals who who needs needs the Service that this woman is coming up to talk about Yo keep up theirs. It's your boy bomb Han and I'm bringing you something epic is coming up to talk about. to choreographers, to idols and trainees, we're bringing you the real stories behind the music that you love. And yeah, we're keeping it a hundred,
Starting point is 00:35:07 discussing everything from comebacks and concepts to the mental health side of the business. Because K-pop isn't just a genre, it's a whole world. And we're exploring every corner of it. And here's the best part, fans get to call in, drop opinions, and even join us live at events. You never know where we might pop up next. So listen to the K Factor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This isn't just a podcast. It's a movement.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Are you ready? Let's go. Made for this mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain.
Starting point is 00:36:05 This is the struggle. This is the thing that's in front of me. You can't make that mountain move without actually diving into it. May is Mental Health Awareness Month, a time to conquer the things that once felt impossible and step boldly into the best version of yourself to awaken the unstoppable strength
Starting point is 00:36:21 that's inside of us all. So tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional wellbeing and climb your personal mountain. Because it's impossible for you to be the most authentic you. It's impossible for you to love you fully if all you're doing is living to please people.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Your mountain is that. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I found out that I was related to the guy that I was dating. I don't feel emotions correctly. I am talking to a felon right now
Starting point is 00:36:49 and I cannot decide if I like him or not. Those were some callers from my call-in podcast, Therapy Gecko. It's a show where I take real phone calls from anonymous strangers all over the world as a fake gecko therapist and try to dig into their brains and learn a little bit about their lives. I know that's a weird concept, but I promise it's pretty interesting if you give it a shot. Matter of fact,
Starting point is 00:37:12 here's a few more examples of the kinds of calls we get on this show. I live with my boyfriend and I found his piss jar in our apartment. I collect my roommates toenails and fingernails. I have very overbearing parents. Even at the age of 29, they won't let me move out of their house. So if you want an excuse to get out of your own head and see what's going on in someone else's head, search for Therapy Gecko on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:37:39 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's the one with the green guy on it. What happens when we come face to face with death? podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. It's the one with the green guy on it. When we step beyond the edge of what we know. To open our consciousness to something more than just what's in that Western box. And return. I clinically died. The heart stopped beating. Which I was dead for 11.5 minutes. My name is Dan Bush.
Starting point is 00:38:15 My mission is simple. To find, explore, and share these stories. I'm not a victim, I'm a survivor. You're strongest when you're the most vulnerable. To remind us what it means to be alive. Not just that I was the guy that cut his arm off, but I'm the guy who is smiling when he cut his arm off. Alive Again, a podcast about the fragility of life, the strength of the human spirit,
Starting point is 00:38:36 and what it means to truly live. Listen to Alive Again on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. So this conversation that we're about to have is so serious. I don't even know if we've ever talked about anything on this show that's more serious than that, than this, because my health is at risk. I love me some braids. Got to have some braids. This is part of my lifestyle. And
Starting point is 00:39:10 even when I have my bundles in my head, there's braids underneath. So there are literally about 365 days, about 360 days of the year, I have braids in my head. I just want everybody to understand because I only got about five days of all, through a whole year of taking it out, maybe a night of letting it just be free, but I keep my hair done. So I'm trying to figure out what's going on.
Starting point is 00:39:48 So we have this sister who is here with us today, Khadijah Doso, who is the CEO and founder of Doso Beauty. And that is a company that is the first clinically tested, non-toxic, hypoallergenic braiding hair and organic hair care brand on the market. The first. That's what I'm talking about. A young, beautiful woman who you have been recognized by Forbes 30 under 30, Refinery
Starting point is 00:40:22 29, and you name it. I think you also won the competition with, what's his name, Pharrell. Yeah, so you're like making headway, making headlines. $1.8 million in sales, and your company just started in 2024? No, we started in 2018. Oh, in 2018, okay, but 2024 is when you begin to get the recognition.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Yeah, we got a lot of recognition in 2024. And I mean, in these past two months, we've jumped by 800% of sales. So it's a lot happening, which you were saying. The political dynamics are shifting people's focus towards black businesses. Then, of course, health is a thing. And I love knowing that you guys started in 2018 because what that consistently underscores for our young people and for other people who think that this is the social media,
Starting point is 00:41:17 it pops up and just happens era, it doesn't. People are building things for years before we see the finished product and before you actually get the credit. So you're saying that for six years, you were moving around and doing stuff, but you began to get a focus and the recognition in terms of headlines and whatnot in 20.
Starting point is 00:41:41 So it took you six years, 2024. It's definitely been a combination of time. Okay, just, you know, cause we deal with people every day. People think tomorrow you're supposed to be rich. Yeah, no. Like they're like, no, I just did it. Why I ain't got the money?
Starting point is 00:41:53 Because you ain't put the work in. You got to struggle before you could really strive. You don't understand, they don't understand that. That was a bar, nice. So you got to struggle before you can strive. There you go. But I don't want to always struggle. So I'm kind of with the people.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Nobody wants to always struggle, but the thing is you're building a house. You're building something. There's a foundation. Before you build this foundation, this mud, this and that, you have to make it solid so that it don't blow away. It's like the little piggies houses, man. All of them had different houses. You know when they built that brick though, it's gonna last long. So you just gotta understand what it is that you're doing. So that's why I'm saying we appreciate you because this is the lessons that our kids need to understand. That there is a process.
Starting point is 00:42:39 That it takes time. Because most of the day, they just go on the internet and they see people go viral one day and somebody's viral and they're like, yo, I was probably, I didn't even know I woke up and I was viral and now I'm nose. But there are a lot of us who had to do this brick by brick, who had to put the work in, and there's a story behind it. And the thing I, the thing that I always tell people is those closest to the problem are closest to the solution. When you created this out of a reaction that you had to syntheticate, explain how that happened.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Yeah, so I was living here in New York and I got my hair braided in Brooklyn and I had a severe allergic creation. There's something called dermatitis bump, so it's the little tiny bumps that you like, ooh, it's pulling. So it was actually the braiding hair. I call myself being precautious by getting a clean therapy, like pre-cleanse hair, pre-treated hair, but the hair is still super toxic.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Most people don't know this, but braiding hair includes lead, mercury, and a bunch of other carcinogens that literally cause us cancer. Damn. What is VOCs? What is that? So those are different compounded ingredients
Starting point is 00:43:55 that help, they basically help us to cause cancer. So those different compounds and ingredients, they are mixed together, especially when you put other chemicals together. And the basis of the Coneconellon fiber, when they started to create it in 1950 something, it was built together so it can last longer. It can be shiny. It can take to color. It can be flame-retarded, heat-resistant. So basically it's toxic chemicals.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Toxic chemicals, okay, so Johnson & Johnson, I think about our brother, attorney Benjamin Crump, who is suing Johnson & Johnson because clearly the baby powder, the talcum, and other things were not good for us. I think Revlon is one of the other companies as well. So we know that there's a history of these toxins specifically harming black folks,
Starting point is 00:44:53 which sometimes I wonder, why is it everything, it just specifically- It impacts us the worst in the movies. I don't understand. I mean, so why is it that the, and I'm not saying that there haven't been white folks, white women who also use talcum powder and they got, what do we get?
Starting point is 00:45:12 Cyst and things like that, cancer causing cysts. I'm not saying that, but we know the numbers are not the same. And I just try to understand why is it, do you know, maybe you don't, maybe this is off topic, but do you understand what is it, do you know, maybe you don't, maybe this is off topic, but do you understand, what is it that the products are specifically bad for us as black people? I think for me, honestly, you really gotta take a look at the ownership of the actual industry.
Starting point is 00:45:37 So most people don't know, but almost 89% of all ethnic haircare products are owned by white and Korean men. Do you think that they researched what might harm their own people and make sure that it's not as prevalent in the product and they don't care about the rest of the folks? I think they care about time. I think they care about the speed, how much money they can make off of it. But as far as health is concerned, I think that's the last part on their list.
Starting point is 00:46:07 No matter what. No matter. And when you think about it, not to say, but who is really getting braids? You know what I'm saying? So they're talking. The white girls are using. But I was talking about talcum powder.
Starting point is 00:46:16 So I was on Johnson and Johnson kind of, you know, just thinking about like Johnson and Johnson and Red Line, there is a specific impact for black women with those products, black people with those products. And a lot of times black men are impacted too because black men can get cyst and cancer causing cyst but never talk about it. And that's why the death rates are so stark
Starting point is 00:46:40 because most of the men are not taking care of themselves properly and not getting the proper checkups and all of that. So by the time they're gone, the research and the process of treatment and all of that is too late. So there's a lot of disparities there. But I was specifically thinking about why some of those products, all the toxins harm us the most. But to your point, all of them, back to your point, across the board, they're thinking about how to get these products to make the most that they can. So they want to spread it as much as they can,
Starting point is 00:47:14 which means you need to put synthetic things. Let's go back to, I learned a little bit from New Jack City and juice, not juice, wisdom of belly and all of that, that when people making drugs, they put products in it that makes it look the same, but it's, what is it, lower quality that stretches it out. Like, we know, we saw them cook it up, you know, baking powder, baking soda was a part of that, right? And that, so that, so we know, and fentanyl is now something that is being used
Starting point is 00:47:45 to stretch drugs and it's killing people. So this is a problem. Like, is the FDA involved here? Is it no? So that's the thing, like, the other part is that there's no FDA regulation about around cosmetics, especially the ethnic hair care products that are around there.
Starting point is 00:48:02 So people can, like I had the allergic reaction again, it said clean therapy, it said that it was pre-cleansed, but that's just marketing. Anybody can mock up a PDF on Canva and say, oh, I'ma print this out and put it on the packaging. Anybody can, there's no regulation on it. So the braiding hair that we use, my hair itching right now.
Starting point is 00:48:21 I feel like I'm scratching, I wasn't even itching, and now I'm itching. So you're saying that there's no body, and by the way, have you ever seen a painkiller? No, no. Okay, so you have to watch painkillers. You have to watch painkillers on Netflix, y'all. We've been telling you about it.
Starting point is 00:48:38 But you find out at the end of this documentary that the guy from the FDA, who was continuously denying the Percocet family, my lie and my side, their application over some year, no, no, because he knew that it was addictive and harmful. And he was like, nah, this is not good for people. They met him somewhere. This is a documentary painkiller,
Starting point is 00:49:07 so this is supposed to be true information here. They met him somewhere at a conference or invited him to come and kind of see up close and personal what they do. There was a meeting in the hotel room. The next thing you know, a year later, he approves their patent and then quits the FDA and goes to work for.
Starting point is 00:49:31 For the family? Stop. Yeah. What'd they pay him? They paid him a lot of money. The Sackler family? The Sackler family. The Sackler family.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Yeah. That's crazy. They paid him. Okay. Yeah. So the FDA don't even mean a thing. Okay. But you're telling me there is no governing body. There is no governing body. So like that's why it was important for us to get our clinical trials because I wanted to make sure that okay my manufacturer wasn't just telling me okay this is non-toxic and hyperallergenic. I needed
Starting point is 00:50:02 clinical trials to both say that we are clinically tested non-toxic and and hyperallergenic. I needed clinical trials to both say that we are clinically tested nontoxic and also hyperallergenic. Wow. So what exact chemicals are there that causes these cancers that cause these reactions? Yo, K-Pop fans. It's your boy, Bom Han, and I'm bringing you something epic. Introducing the K-Factor, the podcast that takes you straight into the heart of K-pop. We're talking music reviews, exclusive interviews, and deep dives into the industry like never before.
Starting point is 00:50:31 From producers and choreographers to idols and trainees, we're bringing you the real stories behind the music that you love. And yeah, we're keeping it a hundred, discussing everything from comebacks and concepts to the mental health side of the business. Because K-pop isn't just a genre. It's a whole world and we're exploring every corner of it. And here's the best part. Fans get to call in, drop opinions, and even join us live at events. You never know where we might pop up next. So listen to the K-Factor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your
Starting point is 00:51:05 podcast. This isn't just a podcast, it's a movement. Are you ready? Let's go. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain, this is the struggle, this is the thing that's in front of me. You can't make that mountain move without actually diving into it. May is Mental Health Awareness Month, a time to conquer the things that once felt impossible
Starting point is 00:51:50 and step boldly into the best version of yourself to awaken the unstoppable strength that's inside of us all. So tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and climb your personal mountain. Because it's impossible for you to be the most authentic you. It's impossible for you to love you fully if all you're doing is living to please people. Your mountain is that. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating.
Starting point is 00:52:18 I don't feel emotions correctly. I am talking to a felon right now and I cannot decide if I like him or not. Those were some callers from my call-in podcast, Therapy Gecko. It's a show where I take real phone calls from anonymous strangers all over the world as a fake gecko therapist and try to dig into their brains and learn a little bit about their lives. I know that's a weird concept, but I promise it's pretty interesting if you give it a shot. Matter of fact, here's a few more examples of the kinds of calls we get on this show. I live with my boyfriend and I found his pizzeria in our apartment. I collect my roommates toenails and fingernails. I have very overbearing parents. Even at the age of 29, they won't let me move out
Starting point is 00:53:03 of their house. So if you want an excuse to get out of your own head and see what's going on in someone else's head search for therapy gecko on the iHeart radio app, apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. It's the one with the green guy on it. What happens when we come face to face with death? My truck was blown up by a 20 pound anti-tank mine. My parachute did not deploy. I was kidnapped by a drug cartel.
Starting point is 00:53:29 I just remember everything getting dark. I'm dying. We step beyond the edge of what we know. To open our consciousness to something more than just what's in that Western box. In return. I clinically died. The heart stopped beating.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Which I was dead for 11.5 minutes. My name is Dan Bush. My mission is simple. To find, explore, and share these stories. I'm not a victim, I'm a survivor. You're strongest when you're the most vulnerable. To remind us what it means to be alive. Not just that I was the guy that cut his arm off,
Starting point is 00:54:02 but I'm the guy who is smiling when he cut his arm off. Alive Again, a podcast about the fragility of life, the strength of the human spirit, and what it means to truly live. Listen to Alive Again on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Lead, mercury, and a bunch of, again, other carcinogens. The biggest part about lead and mercury, as we know, like, if lead and mercury aren't in any of the food items too much that we have, we can assume it can cause us to have really, really, like, bad health concerns. But those are just two of them. There's a bunch of PBBs and other VOCs, like Tameka mentioned, that literally cause cancer. They also help to induce other thyroid reactions as well too.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Some people that have fibroids as well too, they see flare ups. I have so many friends, quite a few friends, who are, you know, they have all of these different, you know, feminine issues that are, you know, going on with their womb and with cysts and it actually makes it that worse, right? Because the thing about braids is, it's not like you taking it on and taking it off.
Starting point is 00:55:13 I'm keeping this in for weeks at a time. My pores are open, right? So whatever chemical that's on the hair, I'm sweating, it's open, it's seeping into my bloodstream. It's coloring or whatever. Yes, color, yes. It's colored too, yeah I'm sweating, it's open. It's seeping into my blusher. It's like even the coloring or whatever. Yes, color, yes. It's colored too, yeah. Exactly. So it's color, it's seeps into your blusher.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Where does the hair come from that we use for our braiding hair? Please don't tell me. Don't answer me. You know where it comes from. I saw something somewhere that's like, it's like terrible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So most of where everything else in this country comes from is exactly where the braiding hair comes from So most of the braiding hair is made in China
Starting point is 00:55:49 But sold by Korean people So like there's this like whole I don't even know if y'all if y'all dig or peep and understand the Hermes I would I mean that Hermes. Mm-hmm. Theyes, the Chinese is spilling everything. They telling you everything. They said, actually, you can get this from us for $20. That's what they said. That's not $2,000. That's what they said.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Yeah, so. They showed you where it's being made. Okay. The Burkitt. Sitting across from each other, like, it's crazy. So the Asian empire is just like a crazy conglomerate Like so you got Chinese people they own restaurants and in all those things We have Korean people right who are notoriously known for opening up beauty supply stores
Starting point is 00:56:36 They have trade agreements with China where they can if my manufacturer is selling it to me for a dollar They're gonna sell it to them for a penny. So I'm paying 100% more than what they're going to sell it to their fellow Asian brethren. And people told them, we shouldn't be doing business with each other. And listen, we ain't got time. We don't got time to do... I'm going to help you. My goal is this. If you ain't got this right, we're going to fix it. That's right. We're going to fix whatever you ain't got right, I'm going to fix it. I'm going to help you. My goal is this. If you ain't got this right, we're going to fix it. That's right. We're going to fix whatever you ain't got right.
Starting point is 00:57:07 I'm going to fix it. I'm going to bring my money to look, okay, you messed up this time, but look, this is what... Once you show the need that you want to be better, I'm going to invest in that. That's what we have to do as Black people because that's what they do. I don't know anybody who does not think that every other ethnic group does that is crazy. It's just because they see each other as brother and sister. It's like if my little brother is doing something, Cousins at least.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Why am I not going to invest in him, especially when I know he got the skill set and the will to do it? I'm going to bet on him more than I'm going to make sure you get rich. I'm making sure that I'm creating generational wealth. And black people are the only people that don't want to tell you, oh, I ain't just doing
Starting point is 00:57:45 it because you black. I am. I'm going to do it because you black. And I don't want you to be confused. You black, you doing something and I need it. I'm going to you. Oh, I believe in it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:56 And that's the reality of the situation. And we don't have to be ashamed to say that. Well, I think the other thing that's interesting, and I saw something earlier today, it was about nepotism, right? Like in the sense of not just like familial but cultural nepotism like there's nothing wrong with putting other black people I'm for nepotism. No I'm all for it. That's why I'm doing what I do. That's why you do work. I want to make sure that my kids
Starting point is 00:58:18 LeBron said and I got opportunity and I want my son want to play ball. You can play and I got you. Yes, yes, yes. But you need at the same time, that's right. But you need to be good when you get there. Yeah, and if you're not then, but I'm gonna give you the opportunity. I'm gonna give you the opportunity. Because even, the thing is this, right, cause people try to tell Barney he wasn't good, right?
Starting point is 00:58:36 Oh, right. It started out he was going through the things that he created, had his fear for his son. It was in his mind, it was in his head. You're gonna be able to mess up a little bit. We ain't just throwing you out because I control this. I'm the face of this. And I say, my son gonna get some,
Starting point is 00:58:50 okay, we gonna send him down to the other league and we gonna let you get, but don't worry about it. You gonna get, look, you listen, they gonna talk crazy about you. That's what come with the game, but you gonna have every opportunity. Now, if you fuck this up, it's on you. Cause I'm giving you every,
Starting point is 00:59:02 and next thing you know, he was going 40 and 30 and they were like, oh, Ron, nah, don't say that. Because that's what you're supposed to do to your son. That's it. That's what we supposed to do to our kids. We gotta let them, I'm a soccer dad, so my son goes out there, he might have a bad quarter, a bad game, and I'm like, don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:59:18 And I'm near every game, so the coach know that I'm near for my son. And I'm gonna make sure that he get all the opportunities. I'm gonna scream at the top of my lung. I'm a curse at the ref. I'm going to make him feel so comfortable to be able to be 100% of himself. And that's what we supposed to do as parents.
Starting point is 00:59:35 We supposed to. Right. I mean, so since we support you, tell us some more about your products. So now you have this product here that, and do people believe in you? Where do you think the click happened for folks starting to support and respect your work?
Starting point is 00:59:55 So I think it was, so funny enough, I conducted my clinical trials last year, well before, and Princeton reached out to me directly. They found our brand and they were like, hey, we could help to test your hair to make sure it's hyperallergenic. I was always putting pressure on my manufacturer to be like, yo, we gotta make sure we get testing,
Starting point is 01:00:14 testing, testing for regulation. And so I decided to do that way ahead of when the Consumer Report just got released two months ago. Once the Consumer Report got released released two months ago. Once the Consumer Report got released, people kind of were like, oh well I don't have an allergic reaction so it doesn't matter. Now since that got released and it showed the breakdown of all of the top 10 brands that has black women in a chokehold and has had us in a chokehold like Expressions, like Shake and Go, like
Starting point is 01:00:43 all of those brands, the exposure was there. So now people are like, no, I need to find an alternative. I have to find an alternative. So that was the really big peak for me. But the preparation is why we're able to do what we do and why we're able to grow by 800%, right? Because I have the supply chain. I have the background. A lot of the other non-toxic braiding hair brands.
Starting point is 01:01:08 They're all sold out of stock and they can't restock for months at a time, but I've already have great trade agreements with UPS with my manufacturer to be able to produce and purchase orders once a week and to get it here quick. So what is what is the going to be a pushback? What are the hair braiders saying? So like the person who braids my hair, certain hair she won't use.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Yeah. Right, now I hope she knows, maybe she does, maybe she doesn't, she says pre-cleaned, and she definitely tries to use quality of everything and all of that, but I'm sure she could be educated as well on how we can do better. So as soon as I call, she gonna say, what, let me write it down,
Starting point is 01:01:48 let me see what you're talking about. So I get that. But I'm sure there has been, and there always will be, an excuse that we love white folk or anybody else folk stuff. We love it, we got to have it. So we'll say, no, no, no, it doesn't work because it splits and it doesn't do the thing right
Starting point is 01:02:10 and whatever. Is there, have you heard some of that or you think like your product is just ready and there's no issue? No, no, no, there is a lot. There's a ton of braiders who I find myself having to educate. And I've even created a community called The Braid Corner
Starting point is 01:02:25 to give them more education about it. Because they would rather go purchase expressions because they've been using expressions for 20 years rather than trying a non-toxic braiding hair brand that not only is this hair that they braid and then your hair causing you cancer. You touching it all day. You touching it all day.
Starting point is 01:02:42 So you are now susceptible to those same things times 10 because you're playing in the product all day long. So for a lot of the braiders, what they do is they send their customers to come to us to purchase their hair directly. But we have a program where you only need to buy 12 in order to get 30% off. So it's not like it's super hard for you to do it.
Starting point is 01:03:04 We're on other platforms where you can pay for your hair and your products that you need in that 60 terms without having, you don't have to have stellar credit and have a crazy trade line agreement. Because people don't want a lot of hair sitting around when they're working in a suite or they like, because my braider, every time I leave, she like, you want to take the leftover here?
Starting point is 01:03:24 And I'm like, no ma'am. No. Not at all. Again, it's a business acumen thing. So I went to Hampton for undergrad and study business. The more and more I am speaking with braiders and I'm speaking with salons, a lot of them just don't have the best business practices
Starting point is 01:03:40 in understanding that every single product that you pay for is a part of your cost of good soul. And so when you do throw that extra piece of hair away, you are literally throwing money away, right? So I think it's more so about educating people and then also right now they're putting the onus back onto the actual customers or the clients to get the hair. So that hair in your head is your hair?
Starting point is 01:04:01 Of course, yes. Yes, okay, well I'm gonna have to try your hair. So is there a different type of technique or something that braiders need to be aware of when it comes to your hair to help them loop it around better, easier, whatever? No, I mean you can use our braiding hair just like you would, you can hot water set it. Oh, talk about hot water. Tell me about the dipping process. Yes. Because I thought that was really making it good or not. Oh, talk about hot water. Yes. Tell me about the dipping process. Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Because I thought that was really making it good. Yeah, no. But you're telling me that's problematic, too. Yeah, it is, especially with the toxic braiding hair, because you're emitting all of the, you ever see the water and it's super cloudy? That's a bunch of those chemicals coming off of the hair into the hot water.
Starting point is 01:04:41 And so you can hot water set our braiding hair. You won't see white foam and all this stuff bubbling around because it's pre-cleansed and pre-treated already. Our hair is super soft, it's lightweight. You felt my hair already. And it's super, super soft. A little goes a long way. That's what I'll also say is like our bundles
Starting point is 01:05:04 are actually thicker and bigger than the regular braiding hair that's in the market. So really, if you wanna get like medium knotless, you can use two, three bundle packs of our braiding hair. We also do have different lengths and colors too. So I thought it was super important for us to have a shorter length for some of the kids as well as like sometimes you just don't want
Starting point is 01:05:23 a bunch of long braids. The knotless bob was a thing that has been trending, right? So like getting a shorter length. And then we do have our 28 inches, which is our three bundle packs, and we have our 32 inches. So I have our 32 inches because I wanted it longer. What's the price point difference? So our three bundle pack is $30 right now,
Starting point is 01:05:44 and our single packs are 13. So that's why it just makes sense to get two, three bundle packs and you're good to go. Good. What you got, Mice? Oh, you even asked about the impact of- I just wanted to ask about, so being a black entrepreneur and working
Starting point is 01:05:58 and having to sell your products online and in different spaces, how is DEI affecting you? Do you feel like it's affecting you? Do you feel like it's necessary? What do you think? Yeah. I think that I've been able to be the product of 20 plus accelerated programs that were created and curated for black entrepreneurs.
Starting point is 01:06:20 So me being a part of those programs, just like you mentioned earlier for Royal Williams Black Ambition, I was the HBCU grand prize winner. If there was not funding being poured into the foundation like Black Ambition, then there would not be opportunity for me to have money and capital to start and grow my business. Right? So for me right now, I think I'm on the other end of it, not looking to receive a bunch of grants to get started because we are doing well as far as revenue is concerned.
Starting point is 01:06:49 But now it's like me pouring back into our community. Right? And so giving back to the community, employing other people that are within our community in my retail store, in my actual braiding salon in Philly, like being able to do those things. And so I think that the other part that the DEI issue, I feel like, and I come from corporate too.
Starting point is 01:07:11 So I worked at a really big management consulting firm and I was a part of the DEI program because again, I'm an HBCU grad and recruit. Oh, you mean to tell me that you as a black person were in a DEI program? Because you know, if you let the internet tell it, black people didn't get nothing from it. It was just all white women and that's it.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Yeah, no. So me as a black woman was a part of a really, really good program that filtered in from HBCU students. Like say they go to the Hamptons, the Howards, the Morehouses, and they pick the best of the best there to start. And so all that was the that was the. OK, just make sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:51 We've been trying to tell people that we got to choose one thing or the other. We saying that it didn't benefit black folks. But then we're saying we've got to support the black businesses that are being impacted by either either. It either was impacting or it wasn't. So go ahead, sorry. And it was though, right?
Starting point is 01:08:09 Because I think the other part is, we just talked about it, right? Nepotism in a sense, right? But in a good way, right? Like hey, if we are disadvantaged people, and it's just like when you apply for a grant, if you are from a disadvantaged community, a marginalized community, it's
Starting point is 01:08:26 a part of you to check that box off. That means that I do need a leg up in order to get and have some sort of equal way for the counterparts who are their dads, our partners at the firm, and they didn't even really have to apply. So yes, we need those programs. I think it's super important for all of the larger companies and firms to still have all of those recruitment programs. And the former job that I actually left, they actually just announced that they were stopping their DEI recruitment programs. So now I'm interested to see what consulting is going to look like because if it's all gonna be whitewashed
Starting point is 01:09:05 or I'm only recruited from all of the top schools that have all the legs up, there's no diversity in thought and in those rooms and all of the other really cool things that y'all need to provide to these clients that y'all are making billions off of. You're not gonna have the opportunity to have those people in the rooms now.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Well, honey, let the church. You said it. Let the church say. Amen. Amen, and we appreciate you. You are extremely knowledgeable, beautiful. Thank you. Your product I'm going to start using and talking about.
Starting point is 01:09:38 Can't wait to put it on my socials and tell the sisters we leaving the other people and we going to a black woman. There's nothing wrong with that. And I don't have space, but I will find space to stockpile my braiding hair so I can bring it with me whenever I go to get my hair braided. And you know, Khadijah, listening to you speaking
Starting point is 01:09:59 on the diversity, he was the one who said, we have to ask about diversity. And I was like, well, maybe she doesn't wanna talk about that, but to know that you actually have history and personal experience makes it so much better because you said something that is so key. You said, because I was a part of programs that were created in the name of diversity,
Starting point is 01:10:21 equity and inclusion, I was able to give funding so that I could build, and now I am taking what I was able to accomplish and helping other people. That has always been the reason why diversity and equity and inclusion was established. That was why some of these companies were forced to do it because people called them out on not having it And yes, it's been infiltrated by white women in this group and that go we get that always happen. Yeah, they wear cornrows
Starting point is 01:10:52 You're trying to act like Kim Kardashian at some point started it. Okay, so We know We know that it's always infiltrated We know that it's always infiltrated. What we should be asking for and what we should be demanding is that you don't take back diversity, equity, and inclusion. You make it better. You make it stronger. You add more elements to it to ensure that it impacts the most vulnerable populations.
Starting point is 01:11:20 But some of us are so crazy and we get caught up in, I don't even know, whatever, whatever they learned on the podcast somewhere that, you know, a YouTube that we don't need it, we don't need it. So now what you're, because you said the other thing I wanna correct that you said, you said we don't know,
Starting point is 01:11:37 we interested to see what it's gonna look like. It's gonna look like how it looked before. And how it looked before was white men were the leaders and had all the money, and the white women were their assistants. And black people worked in the kitchen, worked in driver maybe, and had these little jobs, which is why they want immigrants to be moved.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Because if you have immigrants who are filling up some of those spaces of doing a lot of the hard work, the labor work, and then you have more black people becoming more educated and entrepreneurs, now you got to deal with us on a level and the immigrants of becoming a larger population, they are growing, they're having more children. So now you got to, what happens is white folks are being called to the table that you can't have all of this pie for yourself. So they said we got to readjust this thing so we can make America great again.
Starting point is 01:12:36 Don't play with us like we don't know what's going on. We should be fighting for not just diversity, equity and inclusion. We want plus plus plus plus plus. Yeah. So there's that. Yeah, okay. I don't have anything else to say. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk. Yes, that was definitely a TED Talk.
Starting point is 01:12:51 Thank you for being here, Khadijah. I appreciate it. Keep being great. We appreciate you. Thank you. I appreciate y'all for having me. Thank you so much. Anything that we left out that you need to say. How do people get it?
Starting point is 01:13:00 Where do they go? Yes, yes. So you guys can purchase our products directly on dossobeauty.com. That's D-O-S-S-O, B-E-A-U-T-Y. We are a top seller on Amazon as well too. You can find us on socials at dossobeauty. And then if you're in Philly, stop by our store.
Starting point is 01:13:17 We have the Dosso Beauty Experience, which is a luxury hair braiding salon, and also retail store as well too. Well there's that. We need some product. Yes, I got some stuff. I got something for you too. Okay, man! It's not braiding salon and also retail store as well too. Well there's that. We need some product. Yes. I got some stuff. I got something for you too.
Starting point is 01:13:28 Okay. It's not braiding hair. Listen, because I don't get no braids but you know. Listen, I got some stuff for you. I got some stuff for you. Alright now, my song is like whatever they say. Right. And then I got some of our top selling Whip Shade Butter.
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Starting point is 01:14:06 See, now they bringing gifts. This is what I'm talking about. You can come anytime. You're welcome. Y'all gave me the space. I got to give y'all some. Thank you. We appreciate you.
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Starting point is 01:19:28 Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm in. Got to invest because it's about health. You know what I'm saying? You want it to look right, but it got to be healthy. No. I didn't even understand. I mean, not understand.
Starting point is 01:19:37 I didn't even realize the way that she was saying that cancerous chemicals are inside hair, how they get transferred, the sweating and the paws and even the people that's breathing. Like that was a deep, really deep conversation. We just don't understand how our health is being impacted by everything. Like right, at some point I see where you get this germaphobe
Starting point is 01:20:01 because once they start telling you this and now you're gonna be like, no, you can't do this here. Like they don't, oh my God, I don't even because once they start telling you this and now you're gonna be like no I can't do this here like they don't know what they did with you because that's a whole nother thing that you're gonna be super super crazy about now it's here we got to find out you're gonna be reading ingredients and I said did you can't even read the ingredients? Oh the carjennison's and what is it? She said that they can put anything on the label and there's nobody that's actually verifying the stuff because the FDS doesn't work.
Starting point is 01:20:28 So you gotta actually get tested. She said you gotta get your stuff tested. Well, I trust her, Miss Dosa. Khadijah Dosa of Dosa Beauty. Yes, man, you got me a little skin cream. You know what I'm saying? You got me some stuff. Yeah, got me some stuff man.
Starting point is 01:20:47 She come be and give, she with me man. So, well that brings me to my I don't get it today. And it's pretty much on target with a lot of the stuff we've been talking about today. You know, we are in very serious times and I just don't understand why people don't realize that. When we look at Trump and shout out to Jolly on last week's show and he was talking about how serious and it's not a game, it's not fear mongering, this is really happening. I'm a person that likes to study history and I've been looking at fascism and I've been looking at dictatorship and I've been looking at how these authoritarian governments were
Starting point is 01:21:36 actually established. Because when people were saying that to me, I'm like, what the fuck is fascism? What do you mean? What is dictatorship? What does it mean? What does dictate? What does it mean? And then you look at the Hitler regime, you look at the Nazis and what they did and how they had a very clear strategy that Trump is sharing.
Starting point is 01:21:57 They made people lose faith in government. They said, this government's not doing this for you and I can do it. And he made you feel like he was the person that was able to save you. He focused on the Germans and said look this is what the Jews are doing and we need to fight back. They're doing this to you. These people are invading our country. These people are doing these. These people are the enemy. I'm fighting for the little guy and I'm going to make Germany great again." These are the same phrases that he used.
Starting point is 01:22:33 What starts happening is those who don't feel like they're impacted or think it's just fear and margarine, it's just government, it's the regular thing, whatever, they're black people that are just like, this is nothing happening. They're just kidnapping people off the streets. Like two days ago, I'm watching a little girl in handcuffs. Right, as ICE comes to elementary school, they're literally arresting people with no charges and shipping them to El Salvador
Starting point is 01:22:59 to pretty much concentration camp. Or wherever. They got some places here where they're keeping them and detaining them. Detaining them, and they have no charge.. People don't understand how serious this is. When the president is looking at the Constitution and telling the Supreme Court, I don't have to follow you, and they made a decision that they're not even going to follow the law, there's no checks and balances, that is supreme rule. That means that the people have no say over how the government is being ran
Starting point is 01:23:27 This is exactly what Hitler did he he completely Disenfranchised he eliminated anything that would give a check and balance of what he was doing and this is what Trump is doing So as we look at this situation, I remember in the movie origin that Ava DuVernay Yeah, I think she released it. Did she direct the movie Origin that Ava DuVernay, I think she released it. Did she direct the movie? Yeah, no, it's her movie. It's her film.
Starting point is 01:23:49 It's her film. It's her film. It broke down how racism and caste go hand in hand, right? And how in the caste system is what they did to villainize and enslave and commit genocide against the Jewish people in Germany. There's one scene where they're in the bathroom and there's a couple. The man is a German, I think he might have been a soldier, and the woman is a Jewish woman.
Starting point is 01:24:23 Who could pass. Who could pass. Who could pass. I remember that song. And she's in the bathroom and people are walking in to the bathroom saying, hey, are they rounding up Jewish people? I think they're rounding up Jewish people and their people are just- Because the women are like in there, they're like doing it, getting themselves freshening up.
Starting point is 01:24:41 It's a party. But this young lady, she was aware because she had been paying attention. I think because her man was a German, I think he was a German soldier, and he was pretty much trying to protect her and made her aware what was going on. So when she heard that, she was looking around like, what? But there were so many people who were just oblivious. This is not really happening. They didn't care.
Starting point is 01:25:04 And then later on on you see these same people in concentration camps. And I think it was to tell you how we are not really identifying the seriousness of this moment. I think that people are just, and you have these social media bots, and you have people that say, oh you people are just fear mongering. There's nothing, no, there is something going on. When people can be kidnapped, when a president can sit in the White House with the president of another country. That commits human rights abuses.
Starting point is 01:25:35 That commits human rights abuses and then tells you, hey, nobody's gonna send him back. He's not going back. Even though the courts are saying he has to come back. Even though the Supreme Court said, and he's looking at it like, hey, there's not going back. Even though the courts are saying he has to come back. Even though the Supreme Court said, he's looking at like, hey, there's nothing I can do, and they just playing this game in front of the American people's face.
Starting point is 01:25:51 Like, I don't care about what y'all think. I don't care about this man and his family. I don't care that we sent the wrong man to a foreign country as a criminal that wasn't a criminal. I don't care. That they haven't proved. There's been no due process to prove. There is no level of due process. The fact that you can look at somebody and say they have a tattoo and you can call them a criminal based off that
Starting point is 01:26:14 is crazy to me. It's just unrealistic to me and the fact that we are not taking this serious enough and we're watching the fall of democracy that any sense of democracy, pseudo democracy, any sense of what democracy looks like is actually falling by the waistline. There are people who are just saying ain't nothing happening to me it's just it's just regular and that's what they support that's what they want you to think. They want you to think it's just regular and everything you know you've been sold for cheap today. They just announced how now people are going to have to start paying back these loans and they're going to start garnishing
Starting point is 01:26:51 wages because now the school loans are- Oh, you got some people, some of your friends that love that. They don't want nobody else to have nothing they didn't get. But that's crazy. The mind state for me is that you're willing to burn down the country and burn down everything because one of two things you don't like. Like you would give the reigns to somebody that said, I'm gonna go in and slaughter everybody
Starting point is 01:27:19 because you don't like that the pipes in the building is not good and the then super then fix the pipes So you say we're gonna burn the building there like it just doesn't make sense Why would we but it's not even burning the building down because they're not trying to really burn the building down They're just trying to strip it so that they can take over the building and have a hierarchy that you might be able to live in No, I know but I'm saying they're not even, they think that they are part of, oh, they're burning it down,
Starting point is 01:27:47 we're gonna have to recreate and rebuild. That's not what's happening. No, but you ain't going to get a house down. What they're doing is burning you out of your apartment. Yeah, you ain't got no way to live. And maybe you could stay in the basement if you're willing to clean the building. Because they're moving in with their strategies
Starting point is 01:28:01 and what they call making America great again. And I will say this, and really you've said so much that's so powerful, Mice. So powerful and it just makes me so proud to really see how much like you get it, right? But a lot of times people like the bully because either they were bullied or they were a bully. But that was on the college campus,
Starting point is 01:28:25 maybe, or the high school, school yard, maybe in elementary school. Now we're talking about a nation that you like, you attracted to Donald Trump being this bully, because you feel like this is what makes you feel better about whoever knocked you over your head when you were a child. And this is real serious stuff.
Starting point is 01:28:45 And I laugh all the time that black people still gonna do our boots on the ground dance. We gonna learn how to do it. I'm still trying to learn how to do it. And we gonna still find ways to have joy. And I don't wanna take that away from anybody. But it's really not funny. It's really not funny. It's really not funny because those women
Starting point is 01:29:05 that were in that bathroom, most of them were not Jewish. They were, most of those women were actually German. There was only probably one or two. And this particular woman, she was, ended up being killed in a firing squad with her children and her German husband who tried to protect her. And so she's in there and she hears them talking
Starting point is 01:29:27 and she never reveals herself, but she knows that, oh shit, something is happening. But those women were out there dancing and partying and they were in the bathroom freshening up. They were in their version of the boots on the ground dance. They was in there doing one, two step, you know, we having a good time. So while everybody is saying, hey, are they rounding up the Jews? Are they getting ready
Starting point is 01:29:49 to put people in concentration camps and get up on that? We in here just enjoying ourselves. And when we look around what they do to one, they will do to the other. Because when they say they hate a group of people, they don't say it, but they show it. They don't like the immigrants? Don't you worry. It's coming around the corner for you. It's coming around. Right now, they are not even telling you the numbers in terms of the black folks who have been fired from their federal jobs. They're not even telling you the numbers. And we have been disproportionately impacted by the loss of work. If you don't believe me, just ask the heads of all the labor unions who are now trying to fight and suing, doing lawsuits, the Legal Defense Fund and others who are pushing back
Starting point is 01:30:37 to try to get these folks back to work. I mean, boots on the ground if you want. And I'm not telling you not to do it, because I'm going to learn it. Your ass going to be on the ground. you want and I'm not telling you not to do it cuz I'm a learning your ass gonna be on the ground But just know just know it's gonna be some boots in your ass They got it in our hair they trying to kill us we better pay attention And we and Okay, I'm let me be quiet cuz I was about to say a conspiracy theory that might get me in trouble
Starting point is 01:31:04 But I tell you what, we better be careful what people are trading back over here from all around the world once they get mad because we don't know. The toxins is going in our hair. And that is not something that we... I don't want to spread a conspiracy on that, but I'm just telling you, while we pissing people off and just in wars? You can't, you can't, you can't, there's no way that you can be successful when you don't have allies. When you've made your allies your enemies, right?
Starting point is 01:31:35 When people don't trust you, it's just unreal. When no country trusts you because you haven't proven, you have proven that you're untrustworthy, that you will say anything and do something different, right? When people see that then there's no trust in you. So what happens is all of these people that are enemies start joining against you and they're trying to figure out how do we eliminate you and when they talk about you we talk about us because we live in it. So I don't know how much y'all understand where we are, the situation that we're in, but you better start paying attention. I know, that's right.
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