The Breakfast Club - TMI: The Patterns of Police Misconduct

Episode Date: December 21, 2024

The Black Effect Presents... TMI! This week Tamika D. Mallory and Mysonne The General discuss various themes surrounding the experiences of Black women, community building, police violence, and the current political climate. The discussion also touches on Kendrick Lamar's new album and its themes, leading into a panel discussion on the necessity of consent decrees to address police misconduct particularly in the context of the Louisville Metro Police Department. The speakers discuss patterns of misconduct, the importance of community involvement in the reform process, and the implications of recent developments in the Breonna Taylor case. They emphasize the need for ongoing activism and accountability from elected officials, highlighting that the fight for justice extends beyond local issues to statewide and national concerns.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm a part of the black women who are resting. I'm not really resting, cause I've been working and busy and doing and going and planning and being involved in stuff, but I have not been forcing myself to think about what's next and a rally, a march, a thing, a thing. I just haven't, I'm just not forcing myself to do that right now. I am a part of the 92%. I believe that black women have the instincts that God only himself could have placed in us to be able to be the birthers

of this nation. And I believe that our instinct and what we have in us is something that other people benefit from. And so since I'm in a 92%, while I feel sad about a lot of things that's happening, I really feel proud. I feel I'm in good company. I feel like I don't have to put a cape on and immediately return to the battlefield. It's the holiday season. And I feel like we as black women deserve an opportunity to sit, exhale, breathe, take in one another's love and affection, and just not have to go kill myself

stressed out about work. As you should, enjoy yourself. Like you said, you're part of the 92%. I think, unfortunately for me, I just feel like there's a lot of things that black men are doing. So I've been just really organizing in my mind. I haven't physically went out and did a lot of things, but I've been really just strategizing and organizing and pretty much... I want to start pretty much right after the holidays, just really implementing a lot of things that I think are needed and necessary in this moment for black men, especially black men, young black men. Just the, you know, the, what would I say?

The tide of the world, just the energy of the world, just the feeling. And I just feel like it's very much a time to start strategizing and organizing with young black men. Yeah. I mean, the time has always been, and I've said to you many times that as a woman, I know that we are blessed, very blessed to have the connections and the relationships

among one another. Not to say that men and black men particularly don't have relationships, but there's just something different about the ways in which black women show up for one another. And I think a part of our enslavement and what has happened to us fostered certain things. So, you know, men, African men, right, who were being forced into enslavement and then of course going through chattel slavery, certainly the idea that you are now, you know, responsible for your community and unable to protect your community at the same time has to be something

that has created a psychological backlash. backlash, a part of the protection has been, you know, trying to maintain position and feeling of power and a feeling of, you know, being able to protect because that has been stripped in so many ways from you all, in so many ways, and it continues beyond enslavement, beyond all that we went through then, even now, you still see that. And I know that it is important. I think anyone whose lineage includes enslavement needs a certain level of therapy, a certain level of a community of coming together to understand a lot of how we're still responding to life based upon what we have been through. You even in your song where you're talking

about the Willie Lynch letter, you acknowledge that people say the letter may not be real, but the effects of what is in that letter is significant. It's significant. And I see it every day. I see it in young black men that I deal with. And I think that the most important thing we can be doing for the next four years while being outside

and protesting and bringing awareness and all of that is going to be incredibly important. I still believe that one of the fundamental things that we have to engage in is community building that is not public for the world to see, right? Like that's gotta be something that we do. So I support you 100%. Yeah, it's definitely time. So that's what I've been just focusing on and trying to get into, and just trying to stay abreast of what's going on, trying to take it light, cause everything has been so heavy and dark.

And so trying to have light conversations, enjoy life, listen to music, watch the internet. It's a couple of things that I've been focusing on that really has been bringing me joy. I actually like Kastanar. I've been watching him. He's a young kid and he just enjoys life. A lot of people go, he has all these stars on his live stream and he's been doing like, I think he's doing like a 30 day live stream.

So the other day he had Snoop Dogg on there, he had Chris Brown on there. Everybody is just enjoying themselves. It's young kids, the young in their 20s, they having fun, they talking about good things. And I love that. That why he was in the shower the other day, because he's 30 days in the fridge. Yeah, for 30 days straight, everything he does is going to be on live stream. So in the shower, everything. So you can click on his live stream right now and he's on the live stream as we speak doing whatever. So I've really been enjoying that,

just watching him be, and he's enjoying life. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I wouldn't do it. It reminds me of like the Truman Show kind of. If you ever seen the movie The Truman Show with Jim Carrey, his thing reminds me of The Truman Show, but it's real life. It's actually his real life. And then The Truman Show, Truman was the only person that didn't know that he was on TV. They raised him from a little kid inside the TV. Oh yeah, I think I remember that. Okay. They built a whole life around him.

I was like what? Yeah, they built a whole life. I wanted to say I'm not as old as you. They built this whole life inside this TV. But when I'm watching this, it's very entertaining. And there was one thing in it that kind of, that made me, that resonated with me, because you watch him in all his moments. So he's in the store, and this is just probably

today, and he's in the store, he's buying shoes, and there's about a hundred pairs of sneakers on the counter. So he walks by and he's looking, he's like, well, who put all of this stuff? I ain't put all this stuff here. So the lady's like, well, people just putting stuff up here. So he's with his friends or here. So the ladies like, well, people just putting stuff up here. So he's with his friends and whatever. So he's like, yo, just ask. He said, I don't mind paying for it, but just ask. Like he ain't saying it, so he just saying it to the chat

as they listening, just ask. He said, I would never do nothing like that. I just wouldn't go, I would ask. And it resonates because when you get to a certain level or just when people think you at a certain level, there's a level of entitlement. Right? You think, yo, you got it, yo, you should do it. And it's not that I shouldn't do it or I wouldn't do it, but I wanted to feel like you're not

taking advantage of me. And he said, he said, these little things, this is how people go broke and be little stuff like that. And it shows that he's a sharp young man. You know what I'm saying? It's like, this is how people go broke and be little things like this. And it shows that he's a sharp young man. You know what I'm saying? It's like, this is how people go broke. It be little things like this, and you ain't saying nothing about it.

Next thing you know, there's 100,000 going. People just start taking for granted that they don't have to ask you for things, and they just can take things from you. And it's the mind state. We live in an entitlement era. Like, people feel entitled to things. Like, I have conversations with people

and I see so many different things. People don't even say thank you no more. Like, you know, family, friends, whatever, you do things for people. And it is not that you want them to feel like they in debt, but you just want somebody to say thank you because that's what you would do. I would do say thank you about that you did something for me.

I want you to feel like I acknowledge and I understand that you don't have to do something for me. I want you to feel like I acknowledge and I understand that you don't have to do something for me. We're just in such a time. So it resonated with me because I see it happen. I've experienced it, I've gone through it a lot. But it resonated to see a young boy just understand that. He's in his 20s and he understood like, just ask me.

He just like, well, we got it, we're just going to do this because he understands, he's paying attention. He's a student of life. He sees how people have failed. He sees how people have won. You know, the fact that he brings a lot of different artists and people who have made it on his show, they've probably given him advice and he's taking it. So yeah, it just resonated with me because so much negativity on the internet, so many of these people just pumping crap just to see some young boy having fun and who's in tune and smart and actually understands life.

It's a breath of fresh air. You know what? I like Kassan. I met his sister and his mother and he comes from good stock. He comes from a good family, at least from what I saw of them. They look beautiful people. His sister is very funny and very kind. His mother was really kind.

And I think he's a good kid. I do think that when you put so much of your personal business in the world, people will think that they can take advantage of you because they know too much about what you have. And that's just the nature of human beings. And sometimes people don't even know how to ask because they haven't been, no home training.

Home training, it goes very much to what we was talking about originally. This idea that, you know, we all, and this is not a black man or whatever thing, this is all people. Home training is very important. When I was raised, you couldn a black man or whatever thing. This is all people home training is very important When I was raised you couldn't ask nobody for a thing if I came home with something that somebody gave me my parents Would lose it. You're not allowed to have nothing. You're not allowed to have anything

Where did you get that from who gave it to you? Why did you go back take it? Well, so and so mother said I could have it. I, this mother, your mother said, you can't have it, take it back. Not a shirt, not a shoe, they can't buy you nothing. I mean, really, and it's funny because I'm the complete opposite. I'm always giving and doing and whatever. Perhaps some of it has to do with that,

but I tell you one thing, I do not have expectations that anybody's gonna give me anything. But that brings me to my thought of the day today. My thought of the day today is really kind of like a question. I'm wondering if people have decided to throw their hands up as it relates to police violence and they just over it. Like that's it. You know, we just, it is what it is. We've accepted that the police can kill us and there probably, probably, probably will be not much

to come of it. We can be abused in our communities, pulled over, profiled. In some cases, sexually assaulted. We know what we're dealing with in some cases sexually assaulted. We know what we're dealing with in Kansas City, Kansas, with this officer was sexually assaulting women for years, for 30 years, and nobody's gonna do anything about it. And so therefore we have sort of decided to relinquish our fight and our efforts in that area

and just move on to financial matters. And maybe there are people who really truly believe, which I do believe in some ways, that the more economic development and economic growth that we have in our communities, then we will have less of a need for law enforcement. But what I always go back to is how we have watched communities be extremely economically sound, especially

Black communities like Rosewood in Jacksonville, Florida, or Tulsa, Oklahoma, where the fact that we would even get together and try to have our own economic engines, that pisses them off too. And they find a way to physically by fire, blow it up, not blow it up as in set the leaders up and whatever. I'm talking no conspiracy theory. We talking about physical fire is burning.

And I'm wondering the reason why I'm asking this question around have people just decided police violence, that's one we can when we're moving on from it, is because I'm not sure how you have or how you as a Black man especially, but Black people in general, some of them are so are so excited about Trump and his presidency, knowing that this is a man who does not believe at all that policing should have controls that hold people accountable for harming black and brown folks. We know that because he said it so many times,

I'm not debating it with anybody. We know it. We said it, we lived through I'm not debating it with anybody. We know it. We said it, we lived through administration where he showed it. Right, so we know it. So that's that, right? And I'm not asking this question to focus so much in on Trump,

but I'm just thinking about the whole pie because here last week, the police went into a man's house, Brandon Durham, our brother Lee Merritt, the attorney, is the attorney for the family. And then you have Minister Stretch from Las Vegas, who was our guy, who was there working to mobilize the local community.

And even he said, getting people really active and engaged and getting people to show up, it's not as easy as, not even as easy, people are not as enthusiastic about being out there to push back against the system. Then you have folks that we're gonna have on a show later on who are dealing with trying to force the city of Louisville to sign a consent decree with this particular administration, this Department of Justice to deal with a list of things that the Department of

Justice found when they investigated the police department for all types of abuse of power. Right. And so you got that happening in one hand. And then on the other hand, it seems that there are people who are like, don't worry about it or I don't know what they feel. And maybe I don't have the answer. So I'm hoping that in the comment section,

we're gonna get some answers from folks on where do they stand with that? Because Brandon Durham, which I was about to say, in Las Vegas calls the police because there's an intruder in his home while he and his 15 year old daughter in the house. And they tell them the description of the person who's in the house. When the police officer came, he being the man in the house, the man who the house belongs to, is fighting off a woman who is in the clothes with the description that has been reported.

He is in the clothes, or she is. She was in a red outfit, which is what was reported on the call when police help was asked, was requested. When the police got there, they shot him. The man who else it is, they killed Brandon Durham instead of the woman. So, you know, like I said, I really want people

to just tell me, have they decided that police violence? Cause I, what, here's my real question. Cause I know that the, the, the Trump supporters and the black people who tell us that we out of our mind, you know, we just doing boogeyman, those people. I want to know what they brand in Durham. Cause that's what they're going to do. They, they always come and say, well, Breonna Taylor was with a guy and he was this, he was a drug dealer.

And then George Floyd, he just had something, something, I don't know, a fake 20, whatever nonsense things that come up. They have an excuse for every single situation. So what are they going to say about Brandon Durham? What did he do? He was in his house and he reported the person who was in there and gave a description of what the person was wearing and the police came there and shot him to death.

Now the Trump presidency, his position is, which we know that cops should have full immunity from prosecution, mistakes happen, issues happen while they're out there working, but they should be able to do their jobs and they should not have to worry about people like you and me making a thing of it. So I'm just, I really want people to let me know where we at.

I believe that, you know, after the George Floyd era, the powers that be worked very hard to get people to not recognize any black issues. They made Black Lives Matter a curse word. They made DEI a curse word. They made everything that had to woke is a curse word, you know what I mean? Everything that had to woke is a curse word. All the things that had the whole world paying attention to the injustices that black people were dealing with,

the people that said, wow, these black people were really dealing with, all of those things that led to that, that the slogans and everything that was attached to that has now in less than two, three years has turned into curse words. Right? So this was very intentional.

It was very active. And they're not going to allow black people to continue to evolve and to grow and get justice and equity in America. So this is very intentional. They keep drilling the same things in your head. You have black people who try to tell you that DEI is a bad thing and being woke is a bad thing and Black Lives Matters, don't say nobody want to hear that Black Lives Matter and why do black people need to do this?

And why does somebody have to have Black people? Because you don't need nobody culturally competent to understand what's going on with Black people issues. We don't need an administration that includes us. We don't need a world that includes us and sees the value in the Black people, especially when you have to deal with the issues that Black people deal with.

So when we talk about Black people getting killed, police killing us, they have numbed us to it. They made it seem like that's not a big thing. No, nobody cares about that. Y'all just victim, you know what you are, we have victimhood because we should just be okay with being shot. We should be okay. No, really, because this is what people tell you. When you talk about, hey, police should have, no, just victimhood. Nobody want to hear that. And they when you talk about, hey, police should help, no, just victimhood, nobody want to hear that. And they quickly dismiss it. And they've got some of us to actually buy into that. So what I'm saying is, I'm not surprised, but I'm also understanding that that's why we are here. Unfortunately- That was deep, like something. That's why we're here.

This is why we're here. That's why we're here. Because when I sit there and I listen to it, my soul is not okay with that. No matter how many people, I can sit in a room with one million people trying to tell me just forget about it and it's not that serious,

and my soul is not okay with that. Because I understand, so understand what it is that I was called here to do is to fight for my people, even despite my people, I'm gonna fight for my people. Even despite my people, I'm going to fight for my people. So that's the reality we're dealing with. Unfortunately, we don't see the people that care, but we know there are people who care because there are people that hit us and tell us every day, please keep fighting.

Don't let these people stop you from fighting. But sometimes you get weary. You'd be like, man, what the fuck am I fighting? And I realize, I say that all the time. That's what happened to a lot of our leaders that you're quote unquote, sell-off. Because... But you know people.

People have told you directly that I would be with you, but I can't do it anymore. I can't do it anymore. And that's what happens. So, it is a hard fight. It is not one. When we look at even Dr. King,

we celebrate Dr. King now, but the same people celebrate him now, call them names, they call them coon, they call them sellout. Malcolm X was public enemy. These are real things. When you look at the reality, the same people that we celebrate that fought for us,

had their own people turn against them because it was times just like this. So, you know, we have to understand the moment we in. There are going to be people that just act like what we talking about, it don't even matter. All they will, they gonna keep talking about bread and eggs. They gonna tell you stupid shit about bread and eggs and they don't care that JoJo gonna get shot by the police,

you know, because bread and eggs, because somebody told them that bread costs more and eggs cost more. No, no. Someone didn't tell them that. No. Bread cost more and eggs cost more. I'm not saying bread and eggs,

but that shit ain't, that's not the major thing. Bread and eggs, because you got to be alive to eat bread and eggs. And I'm not, I'm not telling you for me, I'm just, everybody has their own issues. Like for me, I'd just, everybody has their own issues. Like for me, I'd rather pay more for bread and eggs than make sure that my family is safe,

that there are laws in place, then we go, if I gotta work a little harder for some bread and eggs, so I don't put people that are intentionally trying to roll back my civil rights and take away the rights that God gave me in position. It's like this shit is the... This is the classic trick of every white supremacy administration

and white supremacy government. They do the same shit. They make you focus on the shit that don't matter and then you do and... I feel like it's a white supremacist government. I believe it's a white supremacy strategy, because I say it all the time. I say it all the time.

There's this clip that I put up every year. It's from the movie Trick Baby. And it's actually liberals and it's Republicans. And it was talking about the difference. And Republicans say, you give them jobs, and you give them this. And And the Republicans say, you give them jobs and you give them this. And they say, yeah, we give them jobs. Because if we leave one of them in the ghetto with energy, he can rise the rest of the people up.

So what we do is we rise them up, we give them power, and when we give them power, they own people turn on them because they think they with us. So what we do is we neutralize. So we constantly neutralizing our people, never giving them an opportunity because own people turn on them because they think they with us. So what we do is we neutralize. So we constantly neutralizing our people, never giving them an opportunity because everybody that's here to fight for us,

we fighting against the wrong thing. So what they do is they give you bullshit money. They tell you, here we got, you want some money? Here, just get a couple of dollars. And people say, that's what I'm out. I'm here for that, no. That shit is never nothing. The Bible says money is the root all evil.

So when we keep talking about shit that finances is, it doesn't equate to what the actual reality of what equity and justice is and what unity is. It's never going to equate to that. I don't care for how many times you see it. Anybody can tell you. I know people that got money or a bunch of money are not happy. So that's not my focus. Yeah, I hear that.

And I appreciate that you are, that this is who you are. But I just don't agree. I think that I am more likely to encounter prices, inflated cost for gas, food, and other expenses than I am to encounter a police officer who may take my life. That happens rarely, too often, too often for sure, but it is a rarity for most people. But every single week they have to go buy eggs, bread, whatever. So I believe that both things matter.

And they're both equally important because I have to be able to survive. I need to make sure that I'm not in a situation where I'm so financially deprived that my family members, or even I, end up out there in the street doing something I have no business doing, trying to make money. You know what it is and I'm not saying you wrong and I understand

you're 100% correct, right. I think for me, I think I'm at a different stage of understanding where we are, right. And when you watch, there's a strategy that's being taken. And it's constantly been taken. And I see it.

It's like Elon Musk is in position of power. The stock market for Tesla and all that shit is going to go up. And people are going to invest their money in it. And then they're going to make a couple of dollars. And Elon Musk is going to take control of shit that is going to negatively impact 90% of us, right? But there's going to be 20,000 to 30,000 people that feel like they made something off of it. But ultimately, that man is going to impact us in the worst way ever and we think that

we benefit off of it. But I don't know if that people agree with you about that. But that's what I'm saying. I But I don't know that people agree with you about that. But that's what I'm saying. I know you don't, but I understand. I didn't say I don't. I said I don't think I don't know anything. I know they won't because they don't understand.

It's not a, it's like me, right? It's like me living in Beverly Hills. And I'm like, we're doing good. But 95% of us ain't. So I can sit there. If I'm sitting there and I'm doing good and 10 of us is good and So I can sit there, if I'm sitting there and I'm doing good and 10 of us is good and we able to sit at the table

and we still only have the 2% of the wealth that we've been having for a hundred years, we not doing anything. This is what I'm trying to tell you, it's fool's gold, it's a false sense of reality. We represent 13 to 14% of the population and only 2% of us are counted in the wealth in America. They know that we're not increasing at all.

They're constantly increasing and growing. Their numbers of the wealth gap, when you look at the wealth gap, by, they say, by 2035, we will be at zero. The median household for Black people will be zero. This is what I'm trying to tell you. We're dealing with fool's gold. And we keep thinking. It's not is what I'm trying to tell you. We're dealing with fool's gold. And we keep thinking, it's not, I don't have to, it's not about what I think.

I'm telling you, this is what the numbers are saying. This is the numbers are showing. If you look at the average wealth from 1930 something to now, we only represented 2% of the wealth. And you look at now, we only represent 2% of the wealth. The median household is going down every time. And then people saying, look, I'm getting money.

I'm getting money. I'm getting money. People believe that maybe under Trump, it's going to be different. What I'm trying to tell you, you're saying maybe under Trump. They had a pandemic. I'm telling you what I've heard. I'm just telling you the facts.

I'm telling you the things that you can, when you look up the numbers and you do the real no I'm saying but I'm saying that there are people out here that believe that under Donald Trump, it might be something different. Okay, as the first time he had a pandemic. He wasn't able to accomplish the things that he wanted to do. I'm just telling you what I've heard. I'm saying that I don't believe any of it. I think that we're going to see the effects of his presidency in about two years. And I think it's gonna be- The comments-

I think that we're gonna see the impact of his presidency in about two years, but I think we're gonna know even more in the next presidency. So whoever else becomes elected in four years, that's how we're going to know what his policies, the damage that his policies have caused. You're not going to really know. You want me to tell you why? Because what happens is at this point, what they've done is disenfranchised black people.

Right? We have a black movement that is so fractured that they don't even know what the next step is. So the next person that comes, that feels like he has to leave, he's going to sit figure that the model that he has to follow is like Donald Trump. We were literally building. When we look at what we were building,

when we went to the DNC and you looked at all of the black people, when you seen the levels of black power and black influence and black all of that, the next person is going to feel like they have to move away from that. Because this is what America is telling you. They don't want that. They don't want woke. They don't want black power. They don't want all of these things.

So I don't think the next person is going to go into the position saying, you know what? I think they will. I don't see it. I don't see where they feel like it. I think they will. If you look at what they're saying, they're saying that that strategy failed. America does not want to be unified.

America doesn't believe that. I'm just trying to, I'm telling you, I don't see somebody, I don't see America, I don't see no party getting behind somebody that's trying to push the same values that they, that this is probably the work, every swing state, they're saying this is a shellac in, there's no common sense person because this is what they forced us to believe. There's nobody that's going to invest their money and their time inside a strategy that they've already seen fail. And unless something changes,

unless there's something that shifts the tide of America, unless... See, this is where... This is where my thought process departs from a lot of people. Because what I believe is that we will begin to see, like I said, in about two years, the impact of this presidency, and it's actually going to force us into a movement, back into a space where people are gonna realize they can't even get elected if they are that other thing.

That's what I believe is gonna happen. I believe that they're't even get elected if they are that other thing. That's what I believe is going to happen. I believe that they're going to want to get so far away from that other thing. Because for instance, when Donald Trump was president, he got upset with New York for not whatever, whatever something he wanted people in New York to do. And the legislators, he had said no. And next thing you know, he took away our ability to have global entry coming into the country. That impacts people who have money,

right? And so people who have money and or people who are well traveled, people who understand CLEAR and all those programs and being a known traveler, they're the ones that's impacted by that. They didn't like it. They didn't like it. But you also had four years of Joe Biden in between. So now when you circle the block to him, back to his shenanigans of his thinking that he can punish people,

his vindictive nature, that is going to make people turned off. I know it is. I just wait for the day for it all to happen. But anyway, my daughter and I went all around into 15 different directions. But I think it's all great conversation. But none of us can predict. All we can do is because we've already predicted we we didn't predict we forecasted what is to come. And now it will either be that we're wrong, which I agree once Charlemagne said

something the other day. I don't want Donald Trump to fail. I literally don't. Because his failure is the failure of our people. I want the Lord to come into his heart and his mind and say, hey, you gotta do better. You can't be that person. Do I believe that that will happen? No, but that's what I want. I want his party, the Republican party, to look at him and say,

if we allow you to take us down this path, we're never gonna be able to win an election again or at least for a long time. We're going to lose in the midterms. I don't understand how you're saying that, where they voted for that. They voted for that twice. Tamika, what I'm trying to tell you is America.

They didn't vote. They did not. They did not. OK. They did not. OK. They did not. Okay. They did not. Okay. What you have in this election is a lack of voter participation. So when you have a people that feel ignited, they could beat Donald Trump, but they stayed home.

15 million people. If what they're telling us is true, because I don't believe shit. Because as long as Elon Musk is involved, I don't know what they did. I have no idea. But let's just go with the, it is what it is. The rules are the rules. So if that's what happened, if 15 million people came home, stayed home, those people are part of the reason why we lost the election. So what I'm saying is that as people go and continue to move, we already know that more than half of America is racist and or trying to be connected to white people because they think white power and white men is how they will get their handmaid's tail access to their

own power. We already know that. We got that. But at the end of the day, when you really kind of crunch it all down, most of the people who didn't vote are people who just said, I know I'm not gonna vote for Donald Trump, but I can't support Gaza.

I'm broke, I'm stressed, I'm struggling, and I can't be involved in that. I don't like Joe Biden. I'm not voting for a woman. So you have all those people, I'm not voting for a black person, a black woman. You have all those people that if activated could be and put themselves in a position or could have put us in a position to win in two years during the midterms because if things are too out of control, that's when you'll see it where people with their own

legislators are gonna be like, wait a minute, wait a minute. So you with this bullshit or we don't, we don't want you? Hey, what do I know? Listen, we'll see. That's all I say. We'll see. So that brings me to my music spotlight today. It's pretty much easy.

Kendrick dropped an album out of nowhere at six, seven, eight o'clock in the morning that just tore the whole charts up and tore the whole music world up. And I had the luxury of driving my son to soccer this weekend and it was about a two hour ride both ways. So that was about four hours of me driving. So I listened to it over and over and I just got in tune with it. And I think one of my favorite tracks on there is where he took a Tupac beat and he had this

energy of Tupac and it's called Reincarnated. And I'm trying to figure, I'm listening to it and he's talking about two different artists. I think one of them is Billie Holiday. I'm almost sure that the woman he was talking about is Billie Holiday. And I thought it was Jimi Hendrix the first one. I don't know, but it's somebody that played the guitar. I don't know exactly if it was Jimi Hendrix or somebody else, but I got to listen again because I'm going to get the dates on when it was.

But he's talking about these people being reincarnated and coming back as him. And then he has a conversation at the end with God. And God is talking to him like, I sent you here these three different ways so you can get it right. And then he's like, but you still, you two consume a war. You say you want peace, but you consume a war. He said, well, I'm trying to unite my people and I'm trying to unite the worst I'm doing all this.

But you hold these grudges and you fight wars all the time. When are you going to let that go? When are you going to let that go? When are you going to let that energy go? And it's like he's fighting with himself and God. It's such a dope song. It's one of those songs that just shows the creativity of Kendrick Lamar. What I respect about him is that he pushes the envelope and he does things that are different. So I would ask anybody, if you listen to the album, just really listen to Reincarnated.

Don't just listen to it because it got that vibe, that Tupac vibe, but just listen to the lyrics and listen to what he's saying. I haven't had a chance to listen to the album at all, but all of my music finiciato, that's how you say it? I think so. That my people who love music, they seem, y'all seem to be into it. So with that being said, I'm sure I will get it myself. It's a body of work.

It's one of those bodies of work. You know, that's what I love about Kendrick. He doesn't just drop music and that you could just buy, it's those bodies of work. That's what I love about Kendrick. He doesn't just drop music and that you could just buy... It's a body of work. Each song does something different to you, but it still tells a story and it gives you a mind frame, puts you in a mind frame and an understanding. It actually makes you... If you're a creator, if you're an artist, it makes you push yourself.

Just listening to the album, it gave me just ideas of my own things. They were far from his, but it just pushed me to think about different things. So it gets you pushing the creative mind state. That's great. Kendrick Lamar? Kendrick Lamar. What's up y'all?

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podcasts. All right, let's get into our guest. This is going to be a panel that I'm quite excited about today. We have several people on to talk about an issue that should matter to folks all over the country. You know, I often say we need a consent decree on America for many things. And I want to talk more about what a consent decree is with the next group of people that's coming up. So let's have our panel. It's so good to have y'all with us. It feels like home. Like we need to do it more often so we can see y'all's faces and continue

to be in community together. I just think that it is important to state that from the day we met four years ago, which by the time I met Katora, I was apologizing off the bat for a big boo-boo that I made. But nonetheless, we have continued to support one another every single step of the way. I think what came out of our connection through Breonna Taylor, the tragic and unfortunate death of Breonna Taylor, is such an example that can be studied by movements and people across the country, that while we face conflict,

we face drama, trauma, and your mama, everything you could think of, still through every step of the way, outsiders to Louisville came together with the local community and continue to support one another. And I just think that's just so good. So I'm happy to have y'all with us today. So we, we are looking at the beautiful faces of Kentucky State Representative Keturah Haran and also attorney at law, our dear sister, Lanita Baker, who has her own law firm, which is called Baker Injury Law. So if

you out there in the Louisville or Kentucky area, or how many other places can you practice? Georgia, Kentucky and Georgia. Kentucky and Georgia, and you have any type of injury, law, what's that called? Personal injury, so you slip and fall somewhere, you get hit by a truck, a car, anything, you know, medical negligence, nursing home, any of, anybody injured. That's your girl, Takul, attorney Lani Tabaka. Thank y'all for joining us. Thank you. And that's soon to be Senator, Erin. You know she, yeah.

Exactly. Katara took off and has not stopped yet. So I'm sure that soon you'll be in Washington, D.C., being Congresswoman Katora Haran. It's coming, I'm not even worried about it. That's right. We'll see what happens. Politics is a lot, you know, so we'll see. We'll see what God has in store.

Amen. I have a friend who is an elected official in New York who called me today. I'm cleaning and just listening to this person venting that it's so hard to be real and in politics. That is the toughest job ever is to maintain being a real person who's seriously about the issues, being authentic, having a social justice lens, and trying to blend in with, as they said, these suckers, man, I can't take it, man.

That's a word. It is very difficult to balance. And it's very difficult really to live when you're not doing politics. This past weekend I went to a wedding and a guy came up to me and he's like, don't I know you? And so I told him who I was and he was like, you have a card? And I was like, no. And he's like, why don't you have a card? And I'm like, I'm at a wedding. Like, I'm just trying to be. And so it's definitely a balance and you know, it's very humbling and an honor to serve

But it is it takes a toll on an individual for real So you're better than me because I'll be out if I'm out at a regular social event people like I know you from somewhere I'm like, I don't know where I'm from And my friends would be like you wrong. I'm like I mean, I know what I'm not trying to talk about. So I'm like, I don't know. That's what my son does to people. People walk up to my son everywhere and they go, yo, I know you, I know you.

He goes, like, he don't know what the people are talking about. Because at the end of the day, I mean, sometimes you just want to relax. And if they figure out who you are, if they say, hey, you shouldn't say that, I'm blind. But I'm not the person that's gonna say, I'm like, I saw in rap and I do this and I don't want to do all of it. You know, so if you just say, you look familiar, I think I know, I'd be like, well, maybe you

do, maybe you know. I got one of those faces. Yeah. You don't tell me that all the time. Y'all two are so much alike, it's ridiculous. So we're here to talk about a serious issue today. I appreciate the two of you being able to alter your schedules because this

is a real time sensitive issue for lots of reasons. During President Obama's presidency, his terms in office, one of the things that I was very proud of, that we worked on and we advocated for, was the use of consent decrees to address the concerns around police departments around the country. We know that depending on who your president is, and particularly Republican governors, do not lean into consent decrees at all. But under President Obama, they were, and Eric Holder, obviously, being the attorney

general, this was something that they sort of brought to the forefront and really began to use that particular model, that whatever you're going to explain it to us a little better, Attorney Baker, to address police departments where their behavior is not just one incident or two incidents, but there is a pattern, a pattern in practice of abuse, misuse of force, the violation of civil rights, and the issues go on and on. And so we saw more of that happening across the country. And of course, once Donald Trump became president the first time, it went away.

They in fact declined to continue on that path. And here we are back there again. LaNita, why don't you tell us what is the importance of the consent degree? And then you can give us a little bit of information about what's been happening in Kentucky. And of course, Katora, please jump in. So the importance of a consent decree

is it provides oversight for the police department. It's not the chief, it's not the mayor. It's basically saying police department, sometimes it's jail, sometimes it's school. So like in this particular instance, we're talking about the local Metro police department, but consent decrees are when the Department of Justice, the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice, which we know is led by right now, and at least into January, led by the formidable Kristen Clark, who has just been amazing in the four years that she's had to lead that section of Department of Justice. It gives us her court orders, other tools for monitoring

for these entities who under their investigations, they found that an entity whether again, police department, jails, schools, any government entity has engaged in violating the civil rights of any particular group of citizens within the United States. And so as we know here in Louisville, and after President Biden became president,

the Department of Justice announced that it would do an investigation into the Louisville Metro Police Department for patterns and practice. Part of that was based off of the recognition that came in from Breonna Taylor. But in addition to Breonna Taylor, I tell people, we had the search warrants. I represented a young man,

formidable young man named Taeyeon Lee, who was stopped driving his car in the West End, driving his mother's car in the West End, detained 45 minutes to an hour, simply because he happened to be in the West End, driving his mother's car in the West End, detained 45 minutes to an hour, simply because he happened to be in the wrong neighborhood, driving a nice car and being a black male. All he wanted to do was go home on his day off. And we just settled his case last year,

but there was a pattern of those. And the local police department called that a people places narcotics strategy to decrease violent crime. But what they were doing was basically harassing people in the wrong neighborhood. So their thought was, oh, if we find guns come with drugs and, you know, if we crack down on drugs and guns, then, you know, we're reducing crime. But what you were doing were and guns, then we're reducing crime, but what you were doing were harassing innocent young men. We've seen that through their investigation, the improper, like when I read the patterns and practices practice report for LMPD, you would have thought you were in 1960s, like releasing

dogs on teenagers, like what world are we living in that this is okay? And so that was, you know, that those patterns and practice findings came down, I want to say in 2022, if not early 2023, and the mayor's team, whoever he put in place to negotiate on behalf of the city and the Department of Justice, which I know you know this is a priority for them to get this consent decree signed before the administration's change. I've been negotiating but here we are two months out and what I can say if it's not signed by January 19th it's not going to get signed and it will be business as usual for LNPD and we really need these consent decrees to force change

like we have a new police chief he can't it's only so much you can do if you can't say well we got to change because we got this consent decree otherwise we'll be in violation of a court order because it is monitored by the court. It's all about culture. Yeah. That's unbelievable to me. So basically we have two months in order for, to be able to have some type of jurisdiction over what these police can do to us. And they've already said that they've noted a bunch of patterns and practices

that are pretty much unconstitutional. And so we got to fight for them to actually just do the right thing. For the mayor to do the right thing and sign the consent decree. And when we say two months, it's because of what happened with the election. If we weren't, if November 7th, it turned out differently, it may not, it still needs to be signed, but it's not to have full immunity, so what the hell, why would he do a consent decree?

So that's why we are at the space that we are at. And I feel like for me, for as much work as everyone on this call has put in, for as much work as everybody in the city has put in, if our mayor's not willing to sign it, then like. That's another issue. Yeah, whole another issue, but it's time for him to go too. Yeah.

I'm gonna say that. Yeah, and before we go on, I do wanna like, let the folks know what exactly those things were that were in that report. Absolutely. And so specifically, the Justice Department found that LNPD uses excessive force, including unjustified net restraints

and unreasonable use of police dogs and tasers, conduct searches based on invalid warrants, unlawfully execute search warrants without knocking and announcing, unlawfully stops searches, detains, and arrests people during street enforcement activities, including traffic and pedestrian stops. Unlawfully discriminates against Black people

in its enforcement activities, violates the rights of people engaged in protected free speech, critical of police. And the last thing they found was that LNPD discriminates against people with behavioral health disabilities when responding to crises. That's a list.

That's a long list. That's a long list. Representative Herron, why would Jermaya not sign? What is he saying? What's the issue at this point? I mean, I think if you look at what he has said publicly, he just basically said that they're not in agreeance, but has not gone into detail exactly what that means.

But publicly, that is what he is saying that currently they do not agree. The two parties have not come on in agreeance. I think the other thing that I want people to know and understand is that the community has never been a part of the process once a negotiation started. So we're actually also in a place where we're putting trust in the current administration and putting trust in the DOJ that whatever comes out of it, that we're trusting that that is what we want as a community.

And so, you know, it's a lot. So like right now we're literally putting our trust in these two entities that they're going to do right by the people. And so as we're saying, we need to get this done before January 19th, we still haven't even been a part of that deeper conversation about what exactly is the negotiations right now, or who actually from the city is a part of that negotiation. We don't know what that is. I mentioned that our councilwoman,

Shemeika Parrish-Wright has also joined. Thank you so much, Shemeikaika for coming in and being with us. Councilwoman, please. Thank you. First, good afternoon. And it's an honor to be here. And I really appreciate you all keeping this fire lit. I told Shemeika the timing is perfect.

And I'm glad that we have a Kentucky lawyer who is very amazing and capable. So if I say some things that ain't right, you can you can get me right. But I first want to thank now Senator Elect Katora Herron. That is just phenomenal to know that you're going to be carrying justice and equality and all those things at that level because we really, really need it. And today we had a press conference right at Injustice Square, AKA Jefferson Square, right where the marker is signifying

what happened to Breonna Taylor and all the subsequent deaths, David McAtee and Tyler Gerv and everyone else that's been connected. It's been an ongoing battle. I don't know about you all, because you all have been day one down on the ground too, but it's been an up and down roller coaster. And as my son alluded to,

it just seems like never ending, you know, and accountability. I don't know. I got in trouble a lot when I was younger. I don't know about you all. And the only choice I had sometimes was to choose a switch or a belt or punishment. And to me, punishment was the worst,

but I knew that with the switch or the belt, it'll be over with quick. The problem is, is that LNPD is trying to continue with through the mayor, because the mayor is now as a puppet. We have one of our deputy mayors that is a former police officer that still operates with once over the FOP was once he was there when they had a recent consent decree.

This is our second consent decree in recent history. The first one was on the hiring practices and he was there. This deputy mayor was there doing that part of the process and maybe it helped him as a black man on the police force. But right now, what we have is people, the police who have been policing themselves the whole time, trying to tell us, they didn't tell us how they were going to hurt us, but they're trying to tell us how we should heal. So they're looking for an exit date. They said that they looked at all these different consent decrees in other places, and they

seem to go on with the monitoring, and they want to make sure that there's a real clear exit strategy. One of the reasons we were given to was given to why the mayor isn't, you know, trying to sign it. But they say different things they talked about both sides of their mouth they say in one press conference by thanksgiving we should have something and that the mayor is eager to sign it and then when i was just in a council meeting before our regular council meeting it was announced that the mayor wants to make sure that there's an extra

strategy and then one of the council people alluded to the ongoing costs of monitoring. So my thing is, so what, whatever it costs LNPD earned it. That is the narrative that we must all be united on. They earned this consent decree. You don't get to tell us when it ends. You don't get to try to maintain and monitor what you get as your punishment or your consequences because this has happened before. Our LMPDs are the same Louisville Metro Police Department accused of hurting young children in their school program, raping

young children, raping women. There's nothing in our books for that. I'm thankful for the work of Representative Herron because without that, we wouldn't even have a formal no more no knocks on the books. I'm thankful for the state, but there's been nothing really significant. So the DOJ response is a federal response. And what we need is a local response

that helps us hold them accountable, which is why I filed the People's Consent Decree. And that has exactly what Katora Herron laid out, as well as the history of policing report. It's their word. It's the word that they've accepted that they put on their website. And to get my colleagues to pass a resolution meant for them, they couldn't hold to truth.

You can want the most trusted, trained, well-paid police department, but they still are held accountable because basically we're paying them and they're violating human rights and civil rights, and there's no repercussions. And if you really wanna stop the gang violence and the violence that we see, that violence happens in boardrooms.

It happens before we see it on the ground. And it definitely happens with our police department. So we have so many fronts on this. And I just appreciate being able to be a part of this communication. I plan to refoul the people's consent decree. It passed out of committee and then it got stalled when it went to the whole council.

And so I wrote our council for council. I wrote them and asked them, what do I need to do to file this again? Because we have nothing in writing to me, Tamika, in my phone, on our books that really acknowledges what has happened. This federal response is one thing, but we don't have anything that signifies what happened

so that we can hold them accountable going forward. I think one thing with that though too, is we do have to be cognizant of like I'm in support of the People's Consent Decree but I also don't want to confuse constituents in we have a federal consent decree which the federal courts can't enforce and so there is that enforceability mechanism within that consent decree. And I, you know, I've seen the work that Kristen Clark has been putting in around the country, not just in Louisville, like this isn't just something she's doing in Louisville.

She comes from, Tamika, you know Kristen, she's got a long pedigree from Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights under the law to this appointment. And her office being the one that is leading the criminal prosecutions for the officers against Breonna Taylor, her office being the ones that did the criminal prosecutions against the officers that was throwing the slushies. So it's like her office has been the one holding these people responsible for even the little bit of response. It's a small measure of accountability for what needs to be happened. But any type of accountability that's come, whether it's in Breonna Taylor's case or whether it's in other cases of civil rights violations, it's coming from her office. And so I have a lot

of faith. Like when we talk about what's in that consent decree, Kristen ain't let no BS come through that consent decree. And so like when I say like pushing consent decree, like before January 19th, like to me, I feel like Mayor Greenberg had stalled it out and then, you know, he stalled it out to see what's going to happen with the election. And then like, oh, the election turned out, you know, we might get away without actually ever having to sign one. And it's like, no, we shouldn't let that ride. Like this department is no better than it was when they issued that report. And you set up periods like, oh, we're going to accept the accountability and da da da. And at the end of the day, when we talk about how

much it's going to cost to monitor it, what I can tell you is these lawsuits that continue to come cost more than the cost to monitor it, because they continue to get sued back to back to back. People are taking this patterns in practice, investigation, finding. Civil rights attorneys are taking it in court. Look what they do. They can't say they didn't know they've been violating rights and they

continuing to do it. So like, we have to change. And if they're not going to change, like mayor bye, bye bye. But what do you think, what should be the next steps? What can people do? Like, you know, Katorra was talking about how there is nobody part of, you know, the community that has any input inside of what happened in this dissent decree. So what can just the people and constituents and the citizens do to help move

this forward? I think the biggest thing right now is, is there has to be all hands on deck and pressure for the mayor's office to sign it. You know, and people can do that by a call in directly for the mayor's office to sign it. And people can do that by calling directly to the mayor's office. People can also call their Metro Council members. Obviously we have Councilwoman Parrish Wright

who's on board, but the same way that we had the line going to one line when it came to Breonna Taylor in 2020. When you called Metro Council, literally on that line it said, if you're calling regarding Breonna Taylor, press one, all other inquiries press two. And that's the same type of pressure that needs to be put back on, that they need to know that the people are serious and that this needs to be signed because of significance. No matter what the next administration is going to do, this is the responsibility of the mayor and this administration.

We can't wait to see what a Trump administration is going to do, whether he's going to take them away or not. We'll deal with that when that piece comes. But right now, the mayor's office, they need to do everything in their power to put that pen to that paper and sign it and to get on the contract to make sure that the people of Louisville are protected and then for him to hold true to what he said

that he was gonna do when the people elected him. Right, and I think that's so important because regardless of what happens with Trump, he still has a re a reelection for himself. The mayor is going to want to run for reelection and people need to be able to measure him, not by Kristen Clark, not by Donald Trump, not by any of those measures.

It needs to be based upon his own merit and what he has done. And so I think you're 100% right that we have to turn up the energy. That's why we wanted to have this conversation today so that people can have the information they need. It is very challenging when you're working, studying, living your life, to understand everything that's happening around you, especially in terms of the political atmosphere. And it is important for us to break it down in bite-sized pieces so people can say that, I understand that, I want to get behind that,

I want to fight for it. A lot of times we say that our communities are not really involved in things and it's literally because they don't understand because no one has explained it to them and so I think you know getting out there and you know and and making sure that every ladi dadi and everybody as they say knows exactly what's happening in this moment is going to be important and that's the work of the foot soldiers you know those of us who knock on doors, who talk to folks and getting that type of information out there. So I know you also wear another hat, Councilwoman, of also being at Vocal Kentucky.

And I'm sure you all are already working on this, but I feel like what people who are listening can do is to get the information that they need to go push it out into the corners of the city. So talk about that. But I want to make sure Representative Herron that you are able to come back and really briefly before you go today, this is Louisville, but this issue is not only a Louisville issue. This is, I'm sure all of Kentucky,

and we need a consent decree in America in general over all the police departments. We need all of it, all of them. So I want you to talk about what do you see in terms of the importance of this for the entire state of Kentucky? Because I'm sure there are other pockets that are under your purview who have similar issues

that are not being addressed. So one, first we'll go with you, Shemeika, and then Keturah. Thank you for that. And to answer you and my own questions, that is exactly it. The community organizing has to happen no matter what 365 whether somebody is running or not the awareness to making this work digestible in different levels and for people to understand their roles. I think that there's a lot of things that people can do within their discretion that they don't realize they can do and so

education of that is continuous that's reciprocated, it's so important through this process and making sure that we show up. But the good thing is I have my counsel role and then as you said, I have the role as a director of an organization that is fighting for people to not be incarcerated, to not have their rights violated, to be able to meet people where they at.

And these are people who are directly impacted who are now being asked to be at decision-making tables, at judiciary hearings, to be able to articulate their story. So there's a storytelling part of this. And I totally agree with what Laniina Baker on. My distrust is not with that part of what Christian Clark and other folks are doing. My issue is that we make things, we paint things with our, our current administration for one thing in the media, but if we don't have a way to hold them accountable locally, then it's just the same old thing as we've seen the police policing themselves. So one of the other jobs we have to do, and I'm hoping that the people's consent decree adds to it is keep that fire lit, keep the fire lit because the mayor cares about his name in the press

because he's working on getting reelected, like Juanita is saying. And election has consequences as we all are still processing and dealing with the most recent election. So I think that we have to be both in and we have to know who our allies are and work with them. I think the work that you all are doing is phenomenal because until freedom can bring that national platform, keep that national heat on. And I think what Katora is doing is phenomenal because until freedom can bring that national platform, keep that national

heat on. And I think what Katora is doing is amazing because her work and our work with Voqal, we're going into the hoods, the hollows, the suburban, the urban, and we're talking to people and guess what? It's less about their party affiliation, less about the lines that separate them, and it's more about these issues. And as you said to me, the same issues people are dealing with and in these hoods and in these counties where everybody knows everybody and they use the judicial system to further bully the people.

And so we gotta make sure that we're showing up for people in every way. So we're gonna continue to base build. We're gonna continue to mobilize. We're gonna continue to get more people engaged in our organization and the other partner organizations. And then we also want to push for people to be appointed to these seats as commissioners, as being a part of where these decisions are being made and where we can

push people to use their discretion. Because a lot of people need to be engaged in this work, not just our foot soldiers, of course, but sometimes we have people who work within the government or within the agencies who can lift up their voices and be a part of this. So I think the empowerment, the standing with our folks when they are making the right decisions, to have in their back when things are going well, and to build a culture, because you talked about culture change earlier, to build a culture where people can actually stand on the right side of this tenement that we know is moving towards justice and feel supported because we still operate as a small town in Kentucky where they can pick up the phone and shut

you down. And so people worry about their jobs and their housing. So we're trying to find ways where people can take a part of this and still have a home to go to and still have a job to go to. So I'm in it to wherever our vocal folks are in it and other organizing groups are in it and I want to be connected to what you all are doing. Yeah that's good Shamika and as you spoke about the hood to the holler and the urban and suburban, this police misconduct is happening all over the state of Kentucky. And so as you said, why is it important that we do this here? It's important because we need to send a message across the Commonwealth. Just last week, there was a family of a white guy, I believe his name was Joseph Martin,

I believe it's Joey or Joseph Martin, that his family just filed a lawsuit and they're wanting a federal investigation because their son was killed in Marion County, in a smaller county in our state where the police kneeled on the back of his neck for over a minute and a half. And so when we talk about the misconduct that's happening as it relates to policing, it's not just happening in Louisville,

it is happening in Louisville. It is happening across the Commonwealth. Here in the Commonwealth, there's been a lot of police involved shootings where police have killed and shot individuals who were unarmed. And so this is something that I believe that if we're able to get that consent decree done here in Louisville, then it does send a message across the state and it empowers other communities to say, you know what, we can speak up and we can band together to hold our law enforcement together. Because as Councilwoman just said, it is very difficult when you go out in these communities

and talk to folks, they their business owners, they have they have law practices, they're doctors, some of them are afraid to speak out because depending where they are, people will stop patronizing their businesses. But I believe that this what this statement says is it doesn't matter if you're black, white, if you're from Louisville, or you're from the country, we're gonna band together and right is right and wrong is wrong. And at the end of the day, we want to make sure that all Kentuckians, that they have justice and they are protected and protected from law enforcement and that law enforcement is doing their job. And when they're not doing their job, we are going to hold them accountable.

Amen. I just want to say one thing, just on a high note, we did see a piece of justice in Breonna Taylor's case. We've been fighting against it and it just shows how elections have consequences, how fighting has consequences. For four years straight, we did everything possible to bring attention, to fight.

LaNita was the lawyer, we was outside advocating. You know, we watched you guys get elected to office based off just the fighting and everything that we did during that case. So I just want you to, LaNita, just speak a little bit about what happened in that case and just, you know, and give us a little bit of hope, a little bit of hope, and just say what should be the next steps that we should be doing.

Yeah. So of course, um, a few weeks ago, Brett Hankinson was found guilty for violating, um, the civil rights of Breonna Taylor. Um, so his sentence in his Nana, April, first it was going to be March 12th, which was, you know, on the eve of the anniversary of Brianna's death. But I think he, his lawyers later realized, like, hold on, that might not. So it's in April now, but that's okay. Miss Palmer, she was mad, but she's okay now. He did file a motion for a new trial. You know,. Palmer all the time, like, he's a defense attorney. They have to do it, right?

I'm not as worried about the motion for a new trial. The one thing I can say about Judge Jennings is I do feel like she did everything within her power to make sure that that trial was fair. And so I'm not as concerned about a new trial. And she's not going anywhere anytime soon, Judge Jennings. The other two officers, Joshua James and Kal Meany, were still waiting on trial dates for them. Mike Songer and Anna, I always forget Anna's name.

I hate it. But the DOJ prosecutors, the good thing about the two prosecutors that we've had in this case is they extend beyond any presidential administration. They didn't come on when Biden was hired. They've been around for ages. And so, barring somebody coming in and telling them to get rid of these cases, they're going to fight tooth and nail to get justice for Breonna Taylor's family. And I have full faith and trust in those two prosecutors. You guys saw the first trial.

This trial, we was all outside trying to figure out what's going on with elections. It was so much going on this time around. And even I was like, did we really set a trial two weeks before election day or a month before election day? But that first trial, you got to see them and interact with those prosecutors.

And you can tell their heart that it is for fighting a system of corruption within police departments and get rid of those civil rights violations. And so I do have faith in those two. We were fighting and we were in an election during the first trial as well because that's when we spanked Daniel Cameron's ass and sent him back. We spied him and we spied him and we spied Daniel Cameron and Judge Howell. It's always, it's never, there is no fight that we're involved in that's easy or simple or the cakewalk is always an added layer.

I forgot about that. It was during the election. So, but I want to say thank you to all of you and my son has said that we have wins. I got one thing though. Before you go. So next Tuesday, the Department of Justice Civil Rights Division, we talked about Tamika Palmer, Brianna's mom, she is going to be in Washington DC with Kristen Clark.

This year marks 30 years of patterns in practice, the Civil Rights Department Division, Department of Justice being able to pursue civil rights remedies for patterns and practices violations. So they have a panel coming up next Tuesday. Miss Palmer is going to be there as a representative of a family who's been impacted. As you heard representative or senator elect, I don't know which one I like we're going to representative senator elect give all. Yeah. I like we're going to say representative senator, like give all. Yeah. And you heard her talk about one of the violations that they found was getting improper search

warrant so that the patterns in practice definitely led to to Brianna's murder. And so she's going to be up there with Kristen Clark and some other Derek Johnson's one of the panelists. So that's going on next next Tuesday, December 3rd. And the phone calls do work because when we was doing the No More No Knock, some of my friends that were on Metro Council called and they was like, I don't know, I already voted for it.

Can you please tell them to stop calling me? I'm like, no, they're calling everybody. I can't, you know, so. Anything about that. That's all right. You get a call too. Because the elected officials, from the morning

to the night, things can shift. So you just keep the pressure on. Because when those donors start calling, people start getting a little shaky, which is why I appreciate that the two elected officials that we have here are two that have taken the hard way. It's the steps up the backside of the building. And you might have to take the fire escape also,

which means that you're not taking the money from all the big corporations and the special interest groups. You out here bootstraps, like real, knee-in dollars and cents from every single person who believes in justice, who believes in a fair process in terms of our government and elections and all of that.

And I just think, it's the same for us at Until Freedom. We could be taking money from corporations and we have friends, they got a lot of money. They would love to give us money, but that's gonna come with conditions. It's going to come with people expecting certain things. So we are out here. Sometimes the bank account has the money for payroll and sometimes it's real low and we're

trying to figure it out. But at the end of the day, we maintain our integrity. And certainly the two of you have done that. And of course LaNita won't even take certain people's cases so that's an I'm gonna talk to her because LaNita needs to be the one to go get rich. Don't worry about not taking certain people's money so the rest of us can have something. We love y'all so much we're gonna be in Kentucky soon We love y'all so much. We are going to be in Kentucky soon.

And this particular effort, it feels like we have days to push as hard as possible. So let's talk offline and figure out what that looks like and continue to, and to activate our base. We have a base, we built a base in Kentucky across the state of people who just need to know what to do and we need to give them that and get them to work. That's right. Thank you all.

Love you all. Love you all. Y'all love you all. We love you too. Take care. Congratulations, Katorra. Congratulations again. Thank you.

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Senator, you're the best. Senator, you're the best. Representative. Senator Yvette. That's so great. Miss Paris Wright, Councilwoman. That's right. Shout out to Esquire. La Nida Baker. For all the work we've done, like you said, we built a real family

in Kentucky. Now, I wanted to make sure that we talked about that little piece of justice that we got, man, for all those years. You know, there was tears, there was tear gas. You know, there was a lot of things. There was loss. We lost other people during that that lost their life during those times.

So I just want to say that when we fight, we win, man. We don't always win, but when we fight, we actually have- We win anyway. We win anyway. We win because we fought. So I just want us to understand when people say, oh, what you marching for? What you doing there for?

We march so that we can see some justice for Breonna Taylor. And then actually have we march so we can make sure that Daniel Cameron didn't become the governor. These are things that we marched for. And we understand when we make our voices loud and we show our unity and we are intentional about things, those things actually happen. So absolutely, absolutely. What don't you get today, sir?

What don't I get today? And it's, it's pretty much simple because it goes along with this. You know, we're talking about dissent decrees and partisan practices and we're talking about all these laws that can be activated and things that need to be activated. And then we talk about an election.

And what I don't get, right, is we've been very intentional about letting people understand that for us, it wasn't November 7th or November... It was November 8th, it was the day after. No, it's November, the election was November 6th or 5th.

It was November 5th, y'all people all wrong, you and... It was the 7th day, I don't even remember the day, but I just know we were very vocal about saying that for us, it was the day after election and we really needed to start organizing. And what I don't get is how there is this narrative and there's this loud people screaming, well, the election is over now. Why don't y'all just get over it?

You know, Trump is the president. That's it. Just move on. What does that mean? I don't, I don't get what that means. I don't get why people don't understand that there's the process, you elect the president, now you hold the president accountable, now you're very critical, now you make sure the things that needed to get,

that you want to happen in your community happen. It's not okay, we wanted a different candidate, our candidate lost so we don't work anymore. Like, I don't even understand why people think that's how it goes. Every time I have a conversation or you post something about, okay, these are the people that, you know,

the president-elect is putting in his cabinet, and they go, oh, y'all just so losing. No, we want you to understand the process. We want you to understand who to hold accountable for certain things inside our communities, things that's going on inside government, laws that we need to be passed, laws that haven't been passed. We want everybody to be aware. We're not supposed to just go to sleep, the election is over, and we just go to bed,

because no, it doesn't work like that. So I really don't get why people think that now, because Trump has been elected president, and he wasn't the person that we wanted to be elected president, that we supposed to just sail off into the sunset and be quiet for four years. I just don't understand that. Well, I don't have anything to add to that. It is what it is. I've never not been fighting against elected officials.

I mean, literally, even when they're my friends. This is what I told him. I said, we should both be fighting for elected officials. I mean, literally, even when they're my friends. This is what I told him. I said, what are you fighting for an opponent? I, you know, I supported Mayor de Blasio's, him becoming mayor in New York City. I don't know if I, I don't think I endorsed him. I can't remember at this point, but I do know that while Mayor de Blasio was mayor, especially

in the beginning, I was a supporter of his because I knew what he had committed to. He was out there. He was protesting with us against stop and frisk. He was extremely vocal about reform, dealing with policing in New York City. He also was very supportive of the community violence intervention community. He was one to give a number of dollars, millions of dollars in his budget to community violence intervention advocates and grassroots workers and leaders across the city. And so I supported that. As soon as he started to waver because the police turned their backs on him and he had

a number of challenges in terms of dealing with specifically with police abuse. And then there were other issues. And I'm not trying to re litigate the de Blasio time, but you know, we do know that while he was mayor, Daniel Pantaleo, which is the officer who killed Eric Garner, the mayor's response to that and the way he handled the situation and the fact that his own police department refused to move forward with very significant and serious accountability measures for Daniel Pantaleo, we said, well, the nice, what do you call it? The nice, oh damn, what is it called?

The honeymoon period is over. And we went to fightin' him. And we'll continue to do so with anybody. Eric Adams, it doesn't matter who it is. Joe Biden has also been a recipient of us protestin'. Being out there, I intended to continue to do that with Vice President Harris. And we're going to do it under Donald Trump. The stakes are higher.

The ability for Trump to target our community and target us specifically, we already know that that is, in fact, if no one wants to go box when you are X amount of height and X amount of height and X amount of weight, and you gonna go take on the heavyweight champion of the world, knowing that that is not somebody

who you actually have the ability to fight and win. That's stupid. If you do that, something is wrong with you. And I'm not saying that you shouldn't take on big opponents, but for me, every single time we fight, if you're fighting against government officials and people in positions of power, it's a huge fight. It is significant, but you can still choose

within something that is more likely for you to be able to win. And so that's what we always said, but we know we would have to fight anybody more likely for you to be able to win. And so that's what we always said, but we know we would have to fight anybody who is in, you know, in Washington. And it's not just Washington. It's Washington, we now here, it's in Kentucky,

it's in Albany, New York, it's in every single place across this country where we as a people feel oppressed and feel that we are lacking the types of resources that we need in order to have successful communities. So it is what it is. You're right. We're going to fight. We ain't going to never stop fighting. We're going to keep on fighting and we're going fight fight fight and today Good night man, listen another episode of the best podcast in America TMI my partner in crime

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Justice crime, we do justice crime, justice crime. But we want to thank y'all for continuing to support us. We want to thank our guests, you know, Representative Senator-elect Karan, Shemeika Parris Wright, our councilwoman, and also attorney, Laniata Baker, for joining us. We appreciate y'all. We appreciate our fans for always supporting us.

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