The Breakfast Club - Tony Yayo Talks New Podcast, Hip Hop Rivals, 'Free Yayo' Movement, Stabbing At Sony + More

Episode Date: April 14, 2023

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You think that's going to be tough for Haney? I think Haney's going to take that nigga out. I mean, Lomachenko, he's one of those wily veterans. You know what I mean? But I think Haney should win that. I don't think so, bro. You ready? I think Haney really can knock his ass out.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ, MV, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. The talk in New York. That's right. Tony Yayo. Had to bring it back, right?

Whatever, yeah. I'm right out there, man. Had to bring it back. How you feeling, brother? I'm feeling good, man. Running around. I'm on y'all's show. I feel like you got a second win, Yayo.

Like, it's been a- Second win? Third win? Yeah. I mean, you know, I see the way 50 work, and I'm like, yo, he always be like, yo, y'all are lazy, y'all are lazy. And I'm just realizing, like, I thought I was working, I see the way 50 work and I'm like, yo, when he always be like, yo, y'all are lazy, y'all are lazy. And I'm just realizing, like, I thought I was working when I wasn't. So during the COVID, it was just like a tough time.

Like I'm sitting back, wasn't no tours. I'm like, yo, I gotta figure out other things to do. So I started doing the music and then I started, you know, messing with Vlad. Vlad TV. And I just started realizing when you put your presence out there to all these younger generation, the new kids that really don't know us, they know G-Unit. Some people do remember, like, when I go on tour, it'd be like, yo, my father used to play, or my moms used to play G-Unit. So it passed down to that generation. So I'm going on my own tours, and, you know, I'm just making myself valuable, man, putting that work in.

Did that upset you when you heard 50 State Y'all was lazy? Nah, not even. That motivates me. Because at a point, sometimes you do get lazy. Our careers, we was kind of spoiled. Think about it. We had 50 where he was doing everything for us. So as for like, when we was coming out,

you had the Young Guns, for instance. I remember Hovain saying, Jay is not going to do what 50 does for Young Guns. He was saying it in front of their face. Like I was right there. I think we was at NT. Is that Hovain or Ho? No, not Hovain.

My man that passed away from Interscope. Adam, who am I? Hovain. Excuse me. Hovain. Rest in peace Hovain, too, though. Yeah, rest in peace Hovain, too. Because, you know, that was Bank's guy, too, before he passed away.

And let me get back on track. And I remember him saying, saying like y'all got 50 like 50 was you know help us be in the videos right second bake for that when he dropped when he sold 11 million records he dropped beg for mercy yeah you know i'm saying i was in jail you know him and eminem was shouting me out so i always show my love to them i know how 50 is he you know y'all the same sign y'all are crazy crazy. You know, it's all good. It's all good, you know, but it just motivates me to work because I see how he work. We'll be on tour.

He'll leave tour to go on movie set, go back, go to the gym twice a day. I'm tired, you know? I mean, the Free Ale movement was a movement within itself. Like, I don't think we talk about that enough. I don't know why randomly I was thinking the other day about when they shouted you out at the, I think it was the Grand. It was Eminem.

That's why I always shout out Eminem, you know what I'm saying? Because he didn't have to do that. I was on Rikers Island. C73, too low up. How was that when he shouted you out and you were on the island? I'm sure it was. That was crazy because, you know, I was like, yo, that day, you know, it can get crazy on the island. I'm like, yo, I got to watch the Grammys today.

You know what I'm saying? So I was supposed to do this in the house. Like, yo, because, you know, you get stabbed over TV, newspaper on Rikers. Shout to everybody on Rikers. It can because it get crazy so it was experience for me like he wore the shirt and i was like and shady called me i was like you're something got a surprise for you watch the grammys i mean tracy we knew shout to her and um it was a crazy it was crazy for me it was big i felt like tupac a little wayne in jail at that point now this move right here this this your hand in front of the face,

where did that move come from? Because, you know, of course, we've known you doing that for years. Where did that come from? That really came because I was on the run. Like, I was at that point when we was in the club, I was running. Like, 50 was like, yo, he said to me, you know, we had this judge, Judge Wong in Queens, everybody know him, no joke. And he was like, yo, what are you going to do? You going to go to court or go on tour?

And we blowing up now. Mixtapes are crazy. Boob Lakers playing us everywhere. joke and he was like yo what are you gonna do you're gonna go to court or go on tour and we blowing up now mixtapes are crazy bootleggers playing us everywhere i'm like yo i'm running so i ran so you know i i could say it now because i got convicted for it the passport fraud i went in the passport agency and was acting like my brother because me and him look alike and i went got a passport was traveling the world i went to brazil all these places and i was on the run you know and it was passport, was traveling the world. I went to Brazil, all these places. And I was on the run. You know, and it was crazy.

How did they finally catch you? Well, I mean, he put his hand down. No, no. As soon as you come back to New York, we did the Coco Cabana. We got caught up.

We had some security guards with us. We called them gun in the box because they always had the gun in the box. I never understood that. But they had their license and we got caught up going to the Coco Cab of hip-hop police you know they was on there

my police was like on 50 crazy did you have a plan on turning yourself in i don't know nobody want to go to jail man like shout to everybody locked up but everybody that's in jail don't want to be in jail and i tell my young brothers all the time like yo bro don't get in trouble there's cameras everywhere all the police do and the feds do is watch y'all do crimes on camera. And the feds come get you later. You the second rapper I heard say that. I remember Ghostface said he was on the run, but he wore the mask.

That's why he wore the mask. Yeah. When I heard you say that, I was like, oh, I heard Ghostface. Yeah, I was on the run. I had the passport. So when I was in the club video, I was like, let me just cover my face, because this is getting kind of crazy.

I'm on the run. I can't really be in videos like that. So how did John Cena just, I guess, jack it? I know he gives you credit, but he does. Yeah, John Cena said his little brother, I believe, did it, and his little brother did him to do it. And I guess he did it in a match, and it just got crazy. When you seen Reese do it, what did you think?

Oh, she made it. She took it to a whole other level. She brought it back. Had me trending for Shelton and Jareesh. Yeah, me trending me trending for you know the whole week and then caitlin did it before her yeah right yeah so it was just like i mean with that situation was crazy because like you said a black girl did it and it was a problem then when white girl beforehand it was yeah it was a problem so i addressed that you know i mean i talked about that too that's crazy because when we playing ball in the hood you know it it's competitive. Whatever you do, when you do your car shows, you in competition.

That's right. I see you go at people. All day. Y'all got the best car shows in the world. None of y'all can mess with me. I don't know how you're getting all these cars. You said it, not me, but go ahead. You know, so I told 50, he might as well just leave all his cars with you, bro.

You know, 50 calls me and he be like, let me get the car. And I'll give him back his car. You know, I usually have his Lambo or his Rolls Royce. And he'd drive it for one day and then it sits. And then he loses the key and then I gotta go get it again. You don't even drive him. He doesn't let me borrow him. I'm playing around, bro. I meant to ask too, right? I want to go back, right? I've known

Yeo Yeo a long time. Where do you think in your career happened where you didn't go to that next level, right? And I asked 50 that and he said he thinks it was the picking of the wrong single. where do you think in your career happened where you didn't go to that next level right and i asked 50 that and he said he thinks it was the picking of the wrong single what do you what do you think it was interesting i think it was just a lot of drama with in a scope when i came home you know i mean you have 50 he was curtis i'm curtis in a scope jackson you know and jimmy ivine you know you had game flipping and like it was just confusing to me because I was on game album.

And then, you know, the game thing happened. And it was like, yo, he's on the same label as us. So why are they not just getting rid of him? You know, 50 or so more records than him. Whatever it was like, it was like a war in our own house. Because you had records. You had the So Seductive. You had Pimpin'.

Yes, I had So Seductive. I know you don't love me. I had I Know You Don't Love Me and Pimpin', right? But you got to remember, I came in the midst of the 50 Cent Interscope drama. He was saying, fuck Jimmy Iovine. Yeah, I'm my own boss. You know how 50 get. So I think sometimes, and at that point, we had so many enemies,

it was like we wasn't getting a feature or nothing. Like we came to a point where we never used anybody like it was just me banks and 50 you know 50 never looked to do features with nobody so you know how it is it felt like everybody was against us at that point cuz nobody really mess with 50 in the industry like that'll mess with us let's be serious did it feel better now cuz I saw you out and about the other day and like you and Pista Pete and Uncle Murda yeah it feel better. It feel good to have no drama with Fat Joe because Fat Joe, I was always a fan of Fat Joe.

Jealous ones envy. You know, he was a real one. Pistol Pete, he cool. So it's like you get old and a lot of stuff was just hip hop. And I saw you say that was the realest beef G unit ever had. Yeah, Fat Joe. Yeah, Fat Joe.

I guess you call that a compliment, but that's a big compliment, right? Because y'all had a lot of beef. I don't look at the Ja Rule thing as real. But y'all had street beef. Forget the rap. Y'all had beef with- I look at the Primes, the World's.

I look at those kind of guys are the real beefs. The Jimmy Henchmen's, those were the real beefs where it got real with the street guys. But industry-wise, you said Terror Squad was- Yeah, industry-wise, Terror Squad. Why? What makes it... I don't know. It's just a whole bunch of crazy Spanish dudes, man. You know what I'm saying?

You just know. You just know what it is, man. The Bronx, it get real. I'm Spanish dudes in the Bronx. I told my Dominicans, Puerto Ricans, Ecuadorians, Mexicans. It just get real, man. What was the craziest story that you was like, we might not make it out of here? I think the Suge Run-Ins was always crazy for me.

You know what I mean? Because you always heard of Suge Knight, but you never got to see him. So I think it was the, I wouldn't say we were scared, but I could say it was the Vibe Awards. When we seen Suge Knight and Irv Gotti and they walked past the trailer so

it is what it is we in New York but we in LA you know what I'm saying we New York dudes we in LA you know what I'm saying so you see Suge Knight

you always heard about this guy you know TV, magazines but you know never had in the club was the first run in but this was the second so he walks past the trailer

with Irv and 50 just look at James Cruz. James Cruz, you know, shout to him. James Cruz is always in a situation. Industry guy, he got to run around with 50 bulletproof vests. You know how Chris Lighty was in the trenches. It was crazy. So he just taps James Cruz and say, yo, go buy 20 knives.

Go buy 20 knives? Yeah, just go to the hardware store. I'm like, because what are we going to do? Just seeing, you know, it might get crazy. How many of y'all was it? It was about 20 to 15 of us, something like that. So he's like, yo, go buy 20 knives, something like that. So James Cruz goes to the hardware store, buy 20 knives.

He gives the bags, 50 hand in the mouth. And then, you know, when we got there, we had beef with Fat Joe at that point. I remember. We had beef with, uh, Dr. Dre's there, so, you know, that's obviously a beef with Suge Knight. Suge Knight got like some crazy looking, Compton looking dudes with him, you know what I'm saying?

So it just, you felt the energy to where we had our chairs like this. We had our chairs like this. Watching everything. had our chairs like this, like, watching everything. We wasn't like, you know how you said it? So at the show, you're not even watching the show. Yeah, we're not even watching the show. We had our chairs like this. Like, yo, you felt the energy.

Like, you felt someone was going to go down. And that's when, you know, one of the dudes, you know, there wasn't no, we wasn't taking pictures back then, so I guess he asked Dre for the autograph. Yeah. Pops on Dre. Dre falls, but he already might have automatically get up, start popping on him. And it just got crazy.

Knives started coming from everywhere. And that's when one of the dudes got stabbed. So my question is, if there was 20 knives, how come only Young Bunker didn't stab him? Nah, that dude got stabbed in the chest. Young Bunker stabbed him with a fork. I don't know where that came from. He said, how did he stab him with a fork?

Where'd he get that fork from? I don't know where you from. He just came with the fork. So nobody gave Bunker a knife? Nah, but no. I don't know where you... He just came with the fork. Nobody gave Buck a knife? No, but no. I don't know why. That's why I was tripping. I know I had one.

Everybody else did. You know what I'm saying? But Buck... Matter of fact, him and Banks was backstage. They was about to perform, and he just came with the fork. As soon as they started talking that time, when they started to... We went back to the mansion after that happened. Because the kid got stabbed in the chest. He collapsed and everything.

The fork wasn't nothing. And we got back to the mansion and it was on the news. It was like, attempted murder, Young Buck. Young Buck was like, I ain't do that, man. It all switched up with that time. That's why I be staying out of trouble. Young Buck was like, I ain't do that, man. Because Young Buck hit him with the fork.

He ain't stab him in the chest. Word, word, word. Yeah. He kind of ran with the story, though. Didn't Buck run with it? I mean, you know, come on, man. You know, rappers, man. You don't run with the story.

You know the thing that gets lost in that? The fact that Dre had hands. No, Dre was pound. Dre was, like, he's a big dude. So he was just boop, boop, boop, tagging him up. Because dude violated. He had his wife there. You know what I'm saying? He violated., boop, boop, boop, tagging him up. Cause dude violated, he had his wife there, you know what I'm saying, he violated.

In New York, jumped on him, we rat packed him, boom. Do you sleep good? Meaning, I mean, I know you doing well in life, but do you feel like, okay, none of that old beef will ever come back to haunt you? Nah, I always look over my back. I mean, I just feel like, I feel like, you know, once you're public property,

cause 50, when we signed that deal, he said, you know you public property, and you know, they can say what they wanna say. You know, get out of public property, because 50, when we signed that deal, he said, you know, you're public property. And, you know, they can say what they want to say. You know, get out of here. You washed, whatever. You're public property and you a target. I believe we all targets.

Once people see, you know what I mean? You know how it is. You just got to move militant out here because it's crazy out here. Like, I like the jewelry, but I don't wear it all the time. Like, I ain't going middle of compton or or the middle or the bx with a whole bunch of jewelry on and merry christmas you know what i mean i'm over militant because we had somebody around us that you know fifth told us like yo when you know somebody kill you for that watch right you see it every day people getting killed over nothing man nothing out here what whatever out here. For people that don't know, there was a time where y'all were all strained, right? G-Unit wasn't talking to 50, 50 wasn't talking to G-Unit.

What happened during that time and what got y'all back together? I'm always talking to 50. I'm used to 50's character because he's a crazy cancer like Charlamagne, so I'm used to him. He used to be on the block. I remember one day 50 wheeling. He fell off his bike and told, he was like yo nobody better laugh everybody started laughing nobody better laugh at me i'm pushing out of your face so i know him from being on the block i know

him better than anybody from queens right come on man you from queens you know what it is bro you was outside so it's like legendary queens like Like, I know Fifth better than anybody. We was on a block together. Banks is a little younger. So Banks was, you know, high school. He went to August Martin. Buck is from Cashville, and Game is from Cali, L.A. But once money and ego get involved, you know how dudes start acting?

You know, boo-boo. Yeah. So it used to be like, yo, this is team, Lloyd Banks team. This is Hunger for More team. This is the Thoughts of a Predicate team. This is Buck out the Cash Reel team. Everybody's their own boss in a way. And sometimes it gets to their head.

For me, it was different. I got out of jail and I'm like, y'all live in Battery Park. I could see the Statue of Liberty. So I'm open. I'm like, wow, Rikers Allen to this? Thanks, Fifth. Because a lot of artists couldn't afford to give that kind of money to somebody to move them out the hood. That's why they got killed in the hood.

So I always had that loyalty because I'm coming fresh out of jail like, yo, we blew up. You also never seem to have a sense of entitlement. Nah, I don't. I'm like, I'm good. I got a couple of houses. I made some good money. I traveled the world. I'm like on my fourth, fifth passport. I don't. I'm like, I'm good. I got a couple of houses. I made some good money. I traveled the world. I'm like on my fourth, fifth passport.

I'm humble. You know, I ain't got as much cause as Envy, but I got a few and had a few. You know, but for me, I'm like, yo, we all made money. I done seen fifth, like, for instance, I don't want to say too many names, but, you know, like, I'm going to say it, Buck. Like, Buck will go on tour. You know what I'm saying? We wasn't familiar with money, how to save money.

We black dudes from the hood. You know, like, you go on tour, you spend $250, right? And then later on, you have that grace period because you're in another tax bracket, right? So you'll be, you ought to pay that what, maybe a year and a half, maybe two years later. That money might not be there. Yo, 5th, can I borrow $250? I got a tax problem. But how many times you think a person's going that for you that's real no no i've seen fifth save a lot of

people and not just artists i can just imagine what people ask y'all for let me borrow a quarter million i've seen fifth save djs regular people artists like movie people actors and it's funny people you know see him as a mean guy but but I'm like, if y'all really knew how much he's helped people, you'd be surprised. And the people that you think got it, that you feel got it, they don't really got it. All them actors on Power,

rappers, us, me, Banks, Buck, Game, put Game in a lovely... Game had the best situation. Because he had Dre right there on deck. Yo, we need a West Coast dude now. What you think when we in the studio, we got a New York, Dr. Dre blowing up a New York dude. What you think them dudes in the studio saying?

West Coast the best coast, cuz. We need a West Coast dude. So Game was in a perfect situation because Dre had to do that. You had to blow up a West Coast dude now. I always wonder how people around y'all felt about that, especially people from New York. Because Buck was from the South, Game was from the West, y'all was red hot.

They didn't feel like y'all should have been leaning into more New York artists at the time? Well, Buck came because I went to jail. And he had a situation where he was around Fifth because of Juvie and a couple other things. You know what I'm saying? He was really, really around like that. Like Fifth rocked with him.

You know what I'm saying? Where they even did the record. Bloodhound a talented artist I love buck but at that point he came the only reason why Buck came along cuz I went to jail mm-hmm if snatched him up yo come on but come with us cuz you like it I like into it but the people around y'all how do they feel about that seeing y'all put energy into those other guys at that point nobody wanted to be a rapper everybody wanted to be a gangster now everybody wanted to be a gangster. Now everybody wanted to be a rapper. Like a lot of people

that was in our entourage are like rappers now. So at that point, I ain't no rapper. Remember that? I ain't no rapper. I wanted to be the street dude in the background with the name.

But now the game changed. Everybody rap now. It's like, all right, cool. The one thing I think 50 Dropping the Ball with you, yeah, was why you ain't in none of these TV shows, man.

You know what? You just got that natural personality. You know what? He might not want to do it. Do you want to do it? No, I want to do it. But I looked at it like this. If he put all his friends in power, it wouldn't be.

I didn't say all of them. I said you. Yeah, all right, cool, good. Yeah, see, watch this. Put me in something. Show them I ain't said it. Have you ever asked? No, I don't be pressing 50. He done enough for me. You know? Charlemagne said it. Have you ever asked? No, I don't be pressing fifth.

He done enough for me. You know what I'm saying? Like, I done gone to fifth. Yo, I need a half a million, bro. I got you. Quarter million, bro. Got you. Come on, bro.

I can't keep pressing him for everything. You got a half a million? Yeah. I need a half a million, bro. I seen him do it for a buck, too. Yo, buck, I need a quarter. Yo, yeah, man, I got you, bro. I've seen him do it for a buck, too. Yo, buck, I need a quarter. Yo, here, man, I got you, bro.

What's your relationship with Banks? Banks is my brother. I talk to him every day. Are they ever going to mend that? I stay out of it. You stay out of it? Because fifth is, you know, fifth is fifth. Fifth is crazy.

I just know how to deal with him. You know what I'm saying? He's from South Jamaica. He's been like that. Like, you got to think, on the block, 12 years years old never knew who his father was moms got killed he's selling drugs with all the dudes twice his age these dudes like 18 19 you know what i'm saying so he came up different i had a mother and father you know i was supposed to be a good kid actually but you know the streets my neighborhood every there was no role models everybody sold drugs i mean that's how you got the name yeah yeah being on the block my father used to chase me actually. But, you know, the streets, my neighborhood, there was no role models. Everybody sold drugs. I mean.

That's how you got the name Yale. Yeah. Being on the block. My father used to chase me off the block. Haitian parents. You know,

I don't play. Island parents don't play. Chase me off the block. I always wondered does 50 get so mad at them because he's got such a big heart and he's, you know,

he's, Kansas are overly loyal. So when they feel like they've been slighted in any way, it's a wrap. Yo, listen, man. People think

50 is a bad guy. Like you said, it's a wrap. Yo, listen, man. People think Fifth is a bad guy like you said. Omari, Ghost. Remember he said, yo, I don't get paid enough. Fifth, he made you a star, brother. Everybody on that show from Ro Timmy to Michael Rainey, Gianni, they all stars now. Lil' Meech.

Put him in acting school, I believe at 18. You know? And there's a lot of behind the scenes stuff that people don't know about. 50-year-old people with lawyers and situations. A lot of people. Some people that are not even really G-Unit affiliate. Helped them with lawyers. Helped them get their money right.

Like, he helps a lot of people, bro. Sean Money. Like, Sean Money had 18 cars, two houses. Like, I'm quite sure he was getting he was getting probably over half a million a year working at G-Unit. And we was smoking blunts in the office, brother. We was working, but we could have worked more. Now, sometimes I understand what he's saying.

And I'm not saying he's not crazy sometimes. He get crazy. A little crazy. But at the end of the day, he helped everybody from game to buck to me, banks, everybody. Did you really want to rap? You saw it working for 50s. You're like, you know, I'm going to try it.

Yeah, no, I mean, I was on the block. And, you know, I used to be in the parties with my man Fat Shot, DJ Rough Hands. And we used to go, you know, Freaky Ty was from my hood. So we used to always get on the mic and play around and freestyle in my man basement. And, you know, I just started rapping. But, you know, I never thought 50 was going to sell 11 million records. We'd be in the house listening to Get Rich or Die Trying. Dudes was like, yeah, that's all right.

But I always seen a vision. I'm like, nah, this is fire. 50 is the next one. You know, I'm a music guy. Like, I used to go to the Ave and buy MV tapes, Clue tapes, Dog Time, Grandmaster Vic, all of it. Because Queens is music. So people really used to buy Envy's tapes

yes okay don't even don't even do that don't even do that don't even do that with Envy Envy a legend

I hear him say that I was asking no people Hot Wax he know we used to go to Hot Wax get the tapes he don't know

you know cause you gotta remember Clue and Envy went from it went from Blends cause we used to it used to be all about blends. Grandmaster Vic, Dogtime, Dirty Harry. And then it went to playing exclusives.

And that was you and Clue. That's how they changed the game. Him and Clue played exclusive records. Like a Nas freestyle or this freestyle or that. You ever got mad at them for leaking any of your records? Nah. Because the bootleggers made us at that point. The DJs made us.

Because we was getting played everywhere. We'd nah because the bootleggers made us at that point the djs made us because we was getting played everywhere we go to the bootleggers you know sometimes dudes don't want to beat up the bootleggers and 50 be like wow why are you doing that they're spreading the word we had mixtapes everywhere you go mixtapes everywhere but nobody you know the conversation nobody has you know you know what dirty harry and all of them did and we know what y'all did but the artists like what g-Unit did. They were one of the first. Dipset did, and The Lox. They took the mixtape game to another level.

By the way, y'all started doing mixtape. Right, but we wasn't stopping. We had a mixtape every week. Yeah, they were one of the first. I remember when Ja Rule dissed us, and we was in Eminem's studio, and we did semi-automatic gunfire, and that killed Ja. That whole tape killing Ja Rule. Shout out to Ja Rule. Ku killed him still killing him and um he says shout out to jaru still killing him jesus and have you ever ran into john nah never nah only only when you know the situation in the

studio that was back way back and i had like a cut on my hand that was like years ago but to me he wasn't 150 on the flight to me you was on the same flight? To me, you gotta understand. When you think of Queens, like, I was in the streets for real. Like, I'm gonna keep it real. Like, I don't know what Ja was doing. I'm not from his neighborhood.

My baby mom's is from his neighborhood. Pop over there in Woodhall. Right? But as for like seeing Nas come to the block with Black Just,

E-Money bags coming through. Like, my block was legendary. 1-3-4 on Guy Brewer. It was legendary where everybody was outside. I never really... I was outside, so I never... They said Irv Gotti was a DJ. But I never been to a party where he DJ.

I know the Rockaway Twins. I know Goldfingers. I know Tape Master that brings the system everywhere. Grandmaster Vic. Baby J. Baby J. Come on. I never seen Irv do a party.

And I done been to parties on the north side, south side, everywhere. I never really seen him outside. Ja Rule wasn't known as a figure in the neighborhood, in any neighborhood. No disrespect. I want to ask, you know, they've been trying to beat me up here the last two, three weeks, right? If 50

and Wayne did a versus... How you gonna ask Tony Ayo that? He gonna have an objective opinion on that? I think it's gonna be good, but I mean, you know, Wayne got a catalog too, and Fifth got a catalog. See, now I will say this... There's a lot of records that they both have, so I mean, it'll, Wayne got a catalog too, and Fifth got a catalog. See, now I will say this. There's a lot of records that they both have, so, I mean, it'll be a dogfight.

It'll be good. You know what Yale said that y'all don't say? He said catalog. What I find disrespectful is they say Get Rich will just take out Wayne's whole catalog. Nah, we got to go back. I didn't say that. You didn't say that. That's what you said.

He's like, I can play eight songs off just Get Rich. I can play eight songs off Get Rich without trying, because Wayne does have a lot of songs. Wayne is nice? He's like, I can play eight songs off just Get Rich. I can play eight songs off Get Rich or Die Trying because Wayne does have a lot of songs. Wayne is nice. He's dead nice. He's a legend. He's a GOAT. I'm going to start telling people what you say behind the scenes

if you don't stop this stupid shit. But I always say, no, you can say it. I say Wayne is a bigger artist when it comes to a rapper. Wayne has been doing this since, what, 12, 13 years old? That I don't know about. But when it comes to cultural influence, you can't fuck with 50 in them records. I don't know if Wayne's bigger than R. I don't think nothing was bigger than G-Unit, 50 Cent, Eminem, and Dr. Dre.

Because you got to understand the element of everything was crazy. It was crazy. Like, we had video games that were selling. We had clothes that were selling. Do we have cereal, Adam? Do we have cereal? I think we had cereal that was selling. We had everything. Socks. Like, everything was selling. Do we have cereal, Adam? Do we have cereal? I think we had cereal that was selling. We had everything,

socks, like everything was selling and Eminem was, what, sold 60 million? 50 sold 11 million? It was crazy. Like, I don't think-

The only thing is, Wayne has the Nicki Minaj, he has the Drakes, he has the Young Money. He has a huge kid with that. With Drake and- That's what I mean, with Drake and Nicki,

of course. But when it comes to those cultural hits, I don't think there's nothing bigger than them records that you play for 50. Like I said, you could pick any Wayne record, and I will destroy that one record. Pick one record. We had the streets. Pick one record.

I'm talking about the mixtape where nothing was playing but June. No, I understand. You're mixtape where nothing was playing but June. No, I understand. You're acting like Wayne didn't have the speech when it comes to mixtapes. I'm just saying that when it comes to that cultural influence of how a record feels, I don't think it can match. We had kids wearing bulletproof vests in the suburbs, man. Wayne had kids wearing the rock star jeans. Nah, that's right.

That's right. Wayne is a legend. He started the dreads. He started the dreads. But you got to remember this. We was on Lil Wayne tour back in the days. We started, he started way ahead of us. And that's what I said, Wayne started so young.

Remember when you had 50 out of beef? People forget about that. I forgot about that. When Wayne started out pitching you vitamin water or something like that. Oh yeah, I remember that one. But they cool now though. What about that stabbingbing You mentioned it briefly though

Oh and Sony Yeah Was it a real stabbing Um It was a real It was a real stabbing I'm gonna tell you What happened man

We was in the studio And that was That's Sony right Sony Studios yeah Sony remember they had The one across the street And they had the big building The big building

The big building Is where everybody would say Michael Jackson would take all the rooms. Right. Right. So we walking in, and at that time, I think we seen Wyclef. And, you know, I think Scooter was there. I think, was Haitian Jack there?

Haitian Jack. We see them in the lobby. It's just me and 50. A lot of sock posse. Yeah, you know back then. A lot of sock posse. Yeah, they was all in the lobby with Clef. We seen Clef.

And I think Proswell was there too or whatever. So, you know, we go upstairs, but we not worried about it. Fifth, I swear to God, fifth guy, I don't got nothing on me. Fifth guy to four-fifth, no safety on him. We chillin'. We go upstairs. We got a session. So Clark Kent, his nephew ended up being a DJ, Giz.

But Giz was not really a street dude. He was just a cool dude. You know, shout out to Clark Kent, his nephew, ended up being a DJ, Giz. But Giz was not really a street dude. He was just a cool dude. You know, shout out to Clark Kent. He was just like, yo, here, 50, I got a DJ for you, right? So we go in the studio. We supposed to record. Now, the studio is small. It's a small room, and it's a small hallway.

So in the next room is Tone and Poke. They working on beats. And me, 50, and Giz is in the room with the engineer. Forgot what 50 was working on. So I guess I'm going to keep it real. And this is before Interscope. This is when 50 was signing to Sony. I think in my mind, I think Priswell said something.

Like, I don't know why. Like, he must, you know what I'm saying? Why do you think Priswell said something? I think he said something. I'm going to keep it real. I don't think it was Priswell. Why Priswell? All the people you just named. Trust me. I don't think it was Kofi. Why Pryze? All the people you just named.

Trust me. That was the information that was... You know what I mean? That Pryze well said something to Ja Rule and them. So we in the room. You just hear a boop, boop, boop, commotion. These dudes come in like it's a movie. Like, yo, what's up now?

But they ain't... It's no guns or nothing. It's nothing really. All you see is crutches and stuff, like stuff picked up from the studio. And I guess one of them had like a kitchen knife. So it was, was Irv there? No, it was Irv brother. It was, I think it was Black Child at that point.

Ja. I think somebody else. But, so we starting to get it on. Nobody turned off the light while we getting it on. Nobody turned off the light. While we getting it on, the light turned off. Because you know how it is. Somebody bumping to the switch. So we fighting. Everything is dark. You don't know what's going on. You just hit melee.

So all you heard was, get the gun! You know, bluffed him. Because the gun was in the other room. That's why I say, he wouldn't even be here. He would have been gone. Our careers would have been totally different if that gun was in that room and i swear on my dead father like i'm telling you the truth the gun was in the other room i've seen it i'm saying with my own two eyes

they come in we get it on boom boom boom get the gun they run out 50 will speak at one of them niggas i don't know if it was her brother or whoever i see him don't speak and say get the gun once they heard get the gun everybody started running heard get the gun, everybody started running out. But the gun was in the other room. And that was it. 50 had a scratch on his back, right? And I got stabbed in my hands, and my finger was, like, cut right here. So it looked crazy because it was hanging a little bit.

But look, this is all I got. That and that. That was it. The way that went, when they started trying to say that, you know, you had to order protection and all that. Come on, bro. Come on, bro. People are always going to make up stuff.

Yo, they snitches, they rats. When you number one and you on top, people are going to make up stuff. Where's the paperwork? Where's the paperwork? And now people go to the point where they go on YouTube and make fake paperwork about you. And the paperwork they had was fake. That was proven 20 times. You know? And we ended up getting the chain

later on. It was always just a long thing with Ja Rule. I didn't really know the guy. When people talk about y'all ever squashing that beef, I'm like, I think too much violence happened. I don't think beef never gets squashed. I think it just get old. Nah, y'all squashed the beef with Fat Joe.

I mean, Fat Joe's different. Fat Joe, that was more of a Chris Lighty thing. I squashed the beef with Fat Joe. I mean, Fat Joe's different. Fat Joe, that was more of a Chris Lighty thing. You know what I'm saying? When you look at the Henchman thing, people look at, oh, he slapped a kid. No, Henchman didn't like Chris Lighty. That's what it came down to. Chris Lighty was more successful

than Jimmy Henchman, and Jimmy Henchman wanted to move on the same block as him, and he wanted all the artists, and he wanted problems. Why? Because he didn't like Chris Lighty. That's where that came from. I never start.

Like, I'm never, I don't know Ja Rule. That's not justification to slap the kid, though. No, I didn't, but I didn't slap the kid, see? That was the movie. I didn't slap the kid. Somebody else did, and that person got shot at the day before. My car got shot at the day before, so people look at things in one way. You know what I'm saying? Now, when you look at the Jimmy before we got my car got shot up the day before so people look at things in

one way you know i'm saying now now when you look at the jimmy henchman and i don't like to talk bad about nobody in jail but like i don't care but you know and when you look at that situation chris leidy lived on was on 25th jimmy henchman came to 25th chris leidy had um 50 I gotta get game where you think all the drama came from hmm henchmen cause 50 come in the room

like these guys be super street OG's but 50 come in the room and be like I don't care who he is and they didn't like that cause sometimes

you know a lot of artists friendly extortion like when you look at Ja Rule and Preem come on bro dudes was in they pockets bro you had movies movies what was that movie black gangster it never came out right didn't preen with somebody get like a half a million what do you think they got some money

the movie never came out black gangster it's like it was oh we seen friendly extortion early bro come on we was around you come on i've been in this game for a long time now you can't do it dudes gonna call the cops call the cops get them away from a long time. Now you can't do it. Dudes gonna call the cops. Call the cops. Get them away from me. That's it. Or dudes can't do it. It's not gonna work. I never understood. I don't want to say allow, but how was Jimmy Hinchman managing game

and game was signed to G-Unit? That just seemed like a negative negative. That's what I'm saying. And that's where all the whole drama comes from. Chris Lighty and Jimmy Hinchman yo I got 50 all right y'all game you got in game here yo you don't need him you're bigger than him June's here you're here he started that's where all the poison started coming from it was a competition and then I looked at game like yo this dude set apart you from the west coast you got

Tupac tatted on you why you even care to even be with him but at that point game was young and i understand and you know henchman had a name but that was the poison that messed up a lot of money i'd rather game would have been signed with chris leidy then then he's in game so way more records than me i was on his first album i like i have no bad blood in my body towards nobody in juni we made history together but what i'm saying to you is i wish he would have signed with chris leidy or somebody else then henchman because that was the poison henchman never liked chris leidy bro never never and rest in peace to chris leidy because that was somebody that i looked up to

and always looked up to me and i know what he did as for the company, too. What he did with 50 and how he blew, how he had Foxy. And we used to be there. You see State Property. Missy. Missy, K. Slade. We go to his office. So that's what I knew. You know, James Cruz in there.

Claudine. Mona Scott. Mona Scott. Yeah, this is what I knew. I was learning from watching these people. And I was like, yo, this is crazy. This violated thing is crazy. You have to think about how blessed y'all are because think about all the violence y'all

escaped. Because I ain't never even heard about the shooting that happened before the young man got slapped, right? Nah, but it's cool. Was it after that in your mother's house? Yeah, yeah. It's cool. But I always looked at it like this, bro.

If I slap your kid or your kid, what are you going to? You got the right. It's all gloves off. and it's all good. But then y'all G-Unit officers got shot up before that? Yes. Y'all missed a lot of bullets is what I'm saying. Yeah. That's a blessing.

Yeah, definitely. Tour bus, mama crib. It was a lot of bullets. You know what's crazy? And I always thank God. I always say my prayers before I leave the house, because I remember one day I had a plaque, and people won't even believe this story, and a bullet fell out of it, and my father found it.

He was staying with me at the time. And the next day, my mom's crib got shot up. Or it could have been the same day. Like, but my mom's crib got shot up. So, I mean, you know, God is good, bro. A bullet like a plaque? A bullet. Like, I had a 50 cent plaque.

Where, where, where? And it got bullets in it. And it's above my door. And my father found it. He's like, yo, somebody shot the house up? And I'm like, nah, that fell off the plaque. And the next day, like, my mom's crib got shot up so you get signs you know to be low and you got to move right because one thing about us is we knew how to move like all right cool if it's hot

cool i'm good like when my mom's crib got shot up i went out there and was looking to do stuff and 50 called me like yo bro you outside you got something on you you're bugging out bro use your brain bro it's chess not checkers and every time we have money on our head i'll always respect fifth because he'll laugh about it yeah they got 20 on your head they got 80 on my head i don't even worry about it man it ain't that because we know how to move we got the bulletproofs we're moving low we're moving military is there anything you ever let go like when that's happened to your mom's house you said you know i'm gonna let that go because because of what happened i know i know what caused that so i'm gonna yeah definitely it humbles you it's real out here

like playing with this internet and playing you know whatever you in music and whatever it gets real it's realer now than it was back then like you see how these kids get knocked over every day that's why i say you know it must have been like seven eight years ago to see you and 50 enjoying which i didn't have before right i mean because they couldn't go to the clubs and experience the records like y'all should have y'all couldn't go to these events and go to these things and it wasn't because of the rappers it was mainly because of the hip-hop police because there was times where they'd be like no g-unit no dip set in the clubs all the clubs in manhattan so Hip Hop Police, you remember Curly Top. He's retired now.

Hip Hop Police, they all retired. There's all new ones now for dudes that'll follow TJ and all these dudes in the city and all the young dudes now. But all them dudes are retired. But them dudes used to tell us, yo, you can't come to this club. You know how much money we missed out on? It's definitely good to see that. Man, yeah, yo.

And congrats, though, on the Welcome to the Culture podcast. Thank you, man. Welcome to the Culture podcast. I seen you screaming on Matt Hoffa. What happened with that? No, Hoffa and him is good. I just feel like sometimes when you go online, it just felt like clickbait. Like, you asking me, can I pick up the phone if for banks or 50s around they both

my friends i'm a grown ass you know man like what are you talking about and then you asked me about like six nine and i don't wanna you know i know dudes that got locked up over that so i'm just like no i don't wanna just felt like clickbait and you know we was drinking and you know how i get why you got bit by a dog man why you got um you know I love dogs I got pit bulls

and my man I'm about to get one of them dogs and um I just was like yo let me try it he was like yo it's not that bad try what

I was like to put I put the suit on yeah oh man so I wanted to see how it cause I know you gotta

you wanna do it again you wanna come by my cribby nah I'm good with your dog I never do it again bro I thought it I ain't think you got a punk ass dog nah man it again? You want to come on my crib? Nah, I'm good with your dog. I never do it again, bro. I thought it was- Which man said he got a punk ass dog? Nah, man. His dog is crazy.

I seen his dog on line, man. I had a German just like that in Ethie, but she passed away. Now I got to pit. I got to train that dog. But why? Why you had to get bit? I don't know. I just wanted to try.

I didn't think it was going to be that bad. They like put the suit on. It ain't going to be bad. My man said he do it all the time. All right. You know? So I was just like, all right, cool. I put it on and on it ain't gonna be bad my man said he do it all the time all right you know so i was just like all right cool i put it on and i ain't gonna lie i want to try one time too but then when the lady took off the dude took off the suit i see his arm i'm like

no i'm good i thought i didn't think it was gonna be like that trust me charlamagne i ain't thinking yeah now you don't want to do music yeah i just dropped the mixtape loyal i know but do you want to do it like because i feel like your personality is so big. You probably can make this money doing that now. Yeah, I mean, I do like talking to people. I do like what you do, you know, and what Envy do and The Breakfast Club do. So, I mean, I think now the game is changing. Like, these podcasts be fun.

Like, you see podcasts, radio shows. Like, it's going to YouTube now. People want to, you know, they want to know my personality. They want to know your personality. I'm like a sponge. I just like to, I watch y'all guys all the time and just soak up game. You know what I mean? Like, how you got the books.

Envy got the car shows. It's all a hustle for me. You know what I mean? Like, I see y'all hustling. You got about three shows, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We working. Three, four shows.

This guy got about three, four shows yeah we working three four shows this guy got about three four shows going on car show got the reality show got the the house show right the real estate yeah so it's just i don't know it's just like a hustle for me i just want to hustle all right music podcast like welcome to the coach i'm gonna go crazy with the production this year um i got the passport to the future i'm trying to do things for the kids this year um I got the Passport to the Future. I'm trying to do things for the kids this year. I got the clothes, of course, on PassportBoys.com. What else I got going on? Sony Theater on the 26th.

And more tours coming, man. Shout out to 50. Shout out to Banks. Yeah, I heard you're going back on the road. Yeah, back on the road. So you, 50, and Banks going back? Nah, not Banks. Shout out to Uncle Murda. Shout out to Murda. Yeah, shout out to Uncle Murda. Nah, no disrespect Shout to Murda. Yeah, shout to Uncle Murda. Nah, no disrespect to Banks, but, you know, 50's crazy.

That's something that Banks got to work out. Me, I just know 50 for a long time off the block before Banks, so I kind of know he might say something crazy, and it's just like, oh, man. I heard him say some crazy stuff in life, bro. Nah, we used to hear them stories where 50 would swing on Woo Kid swing on Woo Kid

play the wrong records punch Woo Kid in the chest I think one time was the craziest though was um we backstage this is the craziest one though and I hope nobody

get mad about this um and 50 said to James Cruz cause he always mess with James Cruz always to this day to this day I don't know why

but he said to James Cruz Mayweather it's the Maywe. I don't know why, but he said to James Cruz, Mayweather, it's the Mayweather. I don't know where he at. Mayweather, Mad People's back there. He goes, yo, man, that man F Diddy. Like, I'm like, yo. In front of a whole room of people.

I'm like, yo. I heard Diddy touch your butt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Diddy touch your butt. I was like, no disrespect to them, but I was like, yo, this dude is crazy. He's crazy. So I know why everybody hate me. I understand, man, but that's my guy, yeah. You're not supposed to touch your butt. I was like, no disrespect to them, but I was like, yo, this dude is crazy. He's crazy. So I know why everybody hate me.

I understand, man, but that's my guy, bro. It's crazy. What did everybody say when he said that? Yo, the whole room just stopped. Stupid, man. Damn, man. It's just a champ. You know what I'm saying?

You just saw James Cruz. He was out there. Yeah. No, he's a cool dude. That's my guy. Stupid, man. But Fifth, you never know what he's going to say, man. So while we on the road, I stay away from him.

I give him his space, man. Oh, man. I get with you later when it's showtime, bro. Fifth is crazy, man. Jesus. All right. Well, we appreciate you for joining us. Check out the podcast.

The Coach. Welcome to the Coach's Podcast. It's Tony Ayo. Yeah, made it, mom. I'm on the Breakfast Club. Yeah. You've been up here before. Yeah, but I'm by myself now.

All right. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Oh, man. I heard he fucked in. He's got a fucking thing. club yeah you've been up here before yeah but i'm by myself now all right it's the breakfast club good morning i heard you everybody just got quiet i'm like oh man oh that's funny that one he used to say You rock with it. You rock with it. I don't know. He's rocked for sure. Stand right there. You going to do it over here. OK. Yeah, on this. Right here.

My god. Cool. So right here. One, two, three. One more. Let's do it. Two, three. Got you.

We got to do it one time. There you go. Oh, no. We got two of them, OK? So first thing first, we're going to do it. OK. All right. So it, okay? So, first things first. All right. So, three, two, one, whenever you're ready. Okay? Okay?

All right. And then keep it going. All right. We'll go. We got film. One. What are we doing? The same thing.

All right. One, two, three. We're not getting the concept, Sydney. I don't know what you want to say. Wait, are we going in there now? She wants us to do something for TikTok, but I don't get it. Let's do this. Let's do this.

So we got to run it. Yeah, so there's this trend basically where they took a Steve Lacey song, sped it up, and all you do is this. This is all you do. But while you're doing that, I was like, Tony Day, you're doingacey's gone, sped it up, and all you do is this. This is all you do. But while you're doing that, I was like, Tony Dayo doing this, and then y'all was on the shot. But thanks, dude. Thanks, dude.

You got the picture? Yes, we got the picture. I'm so sorry. I didn't know it was supposed to be a surprise. And so I was so confused. I don't know it was supposed to be a surprise. And so I was so confused. I thought it was like a planned thing. So when she said, come on, I'm like. Oh, Nala got in?

Yes. Okay, there you go. I mean, y'all can get a door on the tuning. Huh? It was a good effort for the first time. I know it's a surprise. What do you mean surprise? OK.

You start. I don't want to surprise at all. You want me to tell you? I don't care about perfect. I don't care about perfect.