The Breakfast Club - Toosii Talks "Boys Don't Cry", Loyalty, Cheating, Vulnerability & More

Episode Date: October 7, 2022

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the breakfast club. We got a special guest back in the building. Yes, indeed. Welcome back. What's going on? You got the new EP boys. Don't cry. Tell me about that title, man. got the new EP, Boys Don't Cry.

Yeah. Tell me about that title, man. I mean, I don't know. I feel like as men, you know, our whole life we taught to be tough. And I have emotions, you know. I mean. Which is some bullshit, by the way. It is.

It's some bullshit. It definitely is. I just have my son, though. So I feel like, you know, me having my son kind of opened my eyes to that. Like, you know, I want him to feel like he could be his own person. So, I mean, that's the biggest thing. That's where the title came from. Where'd you get that mentality from?

Because most dads, I'm sure at your dad's age, you raise your kid, fall down, get back up, don't you cry. You hold him to his, don't you cry. So what gave that change to you as a father? I was raised by women, You know what I mean? Even raised by women, I was always raised to be tough. With him, I want him to be his own person. You know what I mean?

I don't want him to fall into the same light or the same statistic that everybody else fell into. So, you know what I mean? That's the biggest thing. I don't know. I'm going to give you a book before you leave here. It's by Jason Wilson, Cry Like a Man. Just remind me to give it to you.

Yo, somebody else just told me that yesterday. Oh, yeah. Powerful, powerful book. Because I feel like all you're doing is raising a generation of sociopaths when you tell a bunch of men, don't feel. Yeah, they said the book about basically emotional incarceration. That's right. Yep. I'm going to check it out. I got it for you. I got copies up here somewhere.

Oh, yeah, I need it. I need it. How were you able to open up then, like, to even be in a relationship? Honestly, like, when it came to that, I don't know. I just did it. You can't run away from love. You heard. That's something that's going to follow you no matter where you go.

You heard, so's something that's going to follow you no matter where you go. You heard? So I don't know. You think you would love quick? Like at first sight type of thing? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Since ninth grade. Most definitely.

So you just fall in love with everything? After you fall in love with everything? Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. But I had my one person, though. You know what I mean? Since ninth grade that I... Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah. Since ninth grade, like, I knew that was who I wanted to be with. You know what I mean? Since ninth grade that I... Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, since ninth grade, like, I knew that was who I wanted to be with.

You know what I mean? So it was kind of like that. You still feel like that's your... That's a rare thing to happen. You would say that happened with you. Yeah. My wife was 15, I was 16. Yeah, that's crazy.

We've been together 27 years, married 21. Same thing. I've been with my wife for 24 years. Yeah. Not married as long, but we married since 2014. They figured it out. Y'all figured it out. Man, I hope I get there. You said, how do you get there?

I said, I hope I do. Oh yeah, I mean you going through it now, and listen, it's gonna be ups and it's gonna be downs, and you gonna make mistakes, and she might make mistakes. Yeah, how y'all do it? How y'all do it? Now that's a complicated question. It was a lot of mistakes.

I'm gonna give you another one. Complicated question. Nah, I don't lie. I'm going to give you another one. That's a complicated question. I don't know. That's always a question I got from couples that have been together that long. I always want to know what it was that kept them together. Usually you get the same answers, like patience and things of that nature. Yeah, I mean, that's part of it. I think for myself it's also, you know, when we first started going out,

there was nothing there. It was just love. It wasn't about money. It wasn't about relationships. when we first started going out there was nothing there it was just love it wasn't about money it wasn't about relationship was about going out so you develop a love that's outside of anything else like she's you know when they call ride or die she's really that person I'm really when I have a problem she's my best friend I can talk to her we can have those uncomfortable discussions and and problems and situations but also with that was before the money that was before the money We're far that's it. That's that's I think whatever you said

It's probably most important that you got to be really Friends with a person and I think sometimes men we'd be more loyal to our homies than we do our women There's things we won't do to our guys that will do to the person we go to sleep with you know every night Yeah, that's crazy to me. I don lie i can't i can't do it because at the end of the day it's like i mean if this i'll date the mirror you know so this the person that i'm looking at mary it's like i can't sit and be like i i'm gonna be more lower than my home was than i am the girl that's gonna be you know the girl that's gonna be my wife you know i mean the bible said it your wife coming for anything that's right define your own words too

like you you gotta know what your definition of love is. Most definitely. You know what I mean? Because I thought I loved my wife back then, but if I loved her the way I thought I did, I wouldn't have did some of the stuff that I did. You know what I mean? So once you learn the definition of it, it's...

Listen, man. You want to talk to her? Yeah, man, listen. Yo, listen, I don't lie. It's like the world won't understand some of that stuff, though. You get what I'm saying? Like, you know, you look at it as you overcoming, you know, something that y'all went through.

I mean, the rest of the world might look at it like, nigga, you did that. You did it wrong. So I don't know. I mean, you could be both. Two things can be true. Yeah, two things definitely could be true. Two things could be true.

Most definitely. Two things definitely could be true. It's a little bit different when you in this light though Oh, yeah, your artist because you you trying out your superpowers. You've never been this version. Oh Angela was just talking about girls doing dick sucking contest and asking men if they can be judges. That's what movie means. That's crazy. That didn't happen before you was toasty, toasty. You know what I mean? I ain't experienced none of that. I don't know about none of that. Before, before, none of that.

All right, so as men, do you think that y'all have to go through something in order for you to realize what you have? Yes. Sadly. To go through thinking you could lose it. That's a trick question. I don't think it's a trick question.

I don't think so. I don't think so. I feel like you can know what you got before it's fucking up. I don't feel like you got to fuck up to know what you got. I don't know. I also don't think cheating got anything to do with the woman. Cheating has to do with what we lack in ourselves. Ego.

It's men. It's our ego. We trying to feed our ego. It's our insecurities. I don't think it has nothing to do with our women. You know, that's so crazy. It's crazy that you say that because, like, I always told myself, like, I never needed more than one woman to stroke my ego.

Like, I never needed that. You know what I mean? than one woman to stroke my ego i i never needed that you know i mean if i had one one female that could stroke my ego um and just make me happy i'd be cool with it like but i don't know though some true that you get some that that that need polygamy you know what i mean so i think they just think they want that and you know i remember when i caught my dad cheating back in the day my dad said to me oh you only got one girlfriend one day you gonna understand so when he planted that seed in my head yeah I mean thinking like damn so I got a guy like this I got it I gotta do shit he did

what does it mean when you say to treat a woman like a lady but effort like a hoe what is what does that mean like how do you do that to somebody like a hoe? Man, you get in the bedroom, girls want to be slutted out, man. You know what I mean? You get in the bedroom with a girl, she don't want to be treated like she a girl. She want to be fucked like you're going to fuck one of them hoes.

And how's that? What's the difference? Fuck me like you fuck one of them hoes. I don't know anything about that. Nah, that's a trick question. Fuck me like you fuck one of them hoes. What hoes? I don't know anything about that. I've never done that. Nah, that's a trick question though. I don't lie. I don't lie.

Nah, that's a trick question. Your girl ever say something like that, don't answer that question. Don't even do nothing. But like, I don't lie though. It's like, like I don't know. Like, it's like treating a girl with respect outside of the bedroom. But in the bedroom, she want, you know. You get disrespected. The bedroom, the only time you can treating a girl with respect outside of the bedroom. But in the bedroom, she want, you know. You get disrespected.

The bedroom, the only time you can disrespect a girl. I don't lie. It's just like when women say you got to be a lady in the streets, a freak in the sheets. A freak in the sheets. It's the same thing. In the bedroom, that's the only time a woman want to be disrespected. She want her hair pushed.

She want to be slapped. She want all that type of shit. You know what I mean? So that's what it mean. You know what I mean? So that's what it mean. You know what I mean? Okay, so you be pulling hair, slapping, doing all that. Man, we do everything, man. Come on, man. Can she do it back to you?

No, hell nah, what the fuck? Nah, see, now that's not fair, too. Hell nah, that's best for yourself. Whatever you do to your woman, you gotta be willing to accept yourself, man. No, that's not true. Hell nah, that's not true. Who's pulling your hair, Charlamagne? Who's pulling his hair? Do you know Charlamagne? Who's pulling his hair? Do you know what I mean? Who's pulling his hair?

Let me try this. Ain't nobody pulling. No, hell no. No hair pulling, no slapping, no choking. I don't do none of that. You don't want to get choked? I don't want to get choked. Damn.

What about blindfolded? Blindfolded? Hell no. Why you blindfolded me? Hold on. So you could use your other senses. Senses? Man, no. What's that smell? That's not what you want it to me? Hold on. So you could use your other senses. Senses? Man, nah.

What's that smell? That's not what you want us to do in the bedroom. Nah, I'm not trying to tap into no other senses in the bedroom. I'm good. I ain't Spider-Man. Now talk about this song, Heartaches. He said, I'm not Spider-Man. I'm not Spider-Man.

You all trying to shoot something? Never mind. Listen. heartaches you said you've done taking my heart put it in a bitter place let another break my heart they wish they could wouldn't when inspired that um like going through going through hardships and relationships you know uh being in relationships and getting put through things that you, you know, never been through before, you know. And sometimes you bump into people and, you know, they begin to grow a sour taste in your mouth. You know what I'm saying? Like, I got an ex I used to be with. Well, I only got two.

I only been with two girls. The one who left you for dead? Yeah, her. Oh, God, man, I hate her. I don't lie. Damn. I only got two. I only been with two girls. The one who left you for dead? Yeah, her. Oh, God, man. I hate her. I don't lie. Damn. I don't lie with shit.

What did she do to you? Man, she broke my motherfucking heart. I don't lie. She cheated on me. I was like 16, though. That shit hurt, though. You know, you get cheated on. Niggas get cheated on in high school, and it's over.

I don't lie. You fuck a nigga up for life with that shit. That is true. Yeah, you cheated on me in high school. Y'all want to bond? Y'all want to bond right now? You want to tell him, Solomon? What?

Never mind, go ahead. Nah, tell him. Hell nah. He had a bad story about getting cheated on. Oh, nah, yeah, but I've been with my woman for 24 years, so that's what I mean when I say, you know, whatever you expect of, whatever she expects of you. You say, I want to bond?

Whatever she expects of you, you got to be willing to give her. What? So if she forgives you, if she does something, you got to forgive her too? Nah, I won't lie. I forgave a few times, though. I won't lie. That shit. It was more than once.

What? That nigga was good, then. I won't lie. I was a sucker. For real. Big one dude that she came after with? Man, I won't lie. I don't even think it was one dude.

I can't remember. Yo, I was a youngin'. So you didn't cheat but she only cheered hell nah she me up yeah she me up and you kept catching and you kept staying yeah hell yeah i was like trust issues because of that situation crazy part though i don't even got trust issues because i feel like i don't know i just don't got trust issues i bet she wish she wouldn't now though does she ever try to she was trying She be trying to throw little quick little shots and hints and all type of shit like that. She said something on the Internet the other day.

It blew my mind. What'd she say? I forgot what she said. She said something about, oh, nah. You know what it was? I had gave my girlfriend 30K for her birthday. And, like, I guess, like, the Internet ain't like her reaction, but she not really no, like, over-

Overreactor. Yeah, she not no overreactor. So I gave her the 30K, and shorty go on the Internet, she like, she should have been me. If I would have got the 30K, I would have such and such. Damn. Okay, that's out of order. Guess what? It'll never be you. How you following her, though? How you know? if i would have got the 30k i would have such and such man okay that's out of order guess what

it'll never be you you know how you know nah she posted it on facebook and it was public and people started tagging me okay yeah yeah yeah she wanted you to see that though yeah she wanted me to see that yeah she wanted your girl to see that and then she was hoping it'll cause problems at home ain't no problems at home but that's what that's what that's what they want man they want problems at home ain't no ain't no trouble in paradise, man. Well, I saw you kind of like... I don't lie. We be going through shit.

Of course. All couples do. I let you get that lie out there. Yeah, we be going through shit. But I saw you saying that you really don't care for the fame aspect of it, right? So when you say that, why show people stuff like that? Why show them you giving your girl $30 i don't lie though it was like that so all of that was before like i had made that post um i don't know the fame become a lot especially at 22 and then on top of that you

know you signed these labels and shit like that ain't no media training ain't no more fucking like no they don't they don't teach you how to talk and when you get in interviews, what to say, what not to say. They don't do none of this shit. You heard? So you coming into this shit, and they not supposed to because that's kind of like taking away from who you are as a person and as an artist.

No, they should. Yeah, yeah, they should. And the reason is there's things that could get you in trouble, things that you should do, things that could get you canceled now. Yeah, right. If they could guide you. I mean, we're a platform. If you say something that's going to get you canceled, that's going to get you in trouble, things that you should say, things that you could get you canceled now. Yeah, right. If they could guide you. I mean, we're a platform. If you say something that's going to get you canceled,

that's going to get you in trouble, locked up, we're going to tell you. I think it might work here, but I don't think it works with social media. Because when you're at home, and you got a feeling in your phone right there. You type it, it's over. So if you're on social media,

and you sit and type some shit, like, oh, nah, the world, and the world don't fuck with it, they're going to bash you. But like, yeah, I don't know. So I guess it was kind of like oh nah the world in in the world don't fuck with it they're gonna bash you but like um yeah like i don't know so like i guess like it was kind of like one of the moments where it's like damn like if i was famous this never would have been an issue i mean they people flipped it and made it seem as if like it was a thing of um me blaming offense for for for whatever happened but like honestly it wasn't even that it was just a matter

of like me stating like yo if i if i was never famous because my music used to be like important to me like it used to be just for me i used to which it still is important but it used to be just a thing for me it used to be sacred to me i mean but i don't know i started dropping the music and you know i'm more so doing things for the fans now so i don't know it was more so like you know if I if I never was famous this never would have been a problem that's that's a great conversation right cuz that is that impact your creative process because you're thinking about what the Internet's gonna think or what people are gonna think is that it's going to make the music you want to make um honestly I feel like me and my me and

my fans got such a such a good connection that when I go in there and I record it's not really like it's, it's almost like I'm recording for myself. Because we got the same thought process. To be a fan of me, you like the things that I like. So, I don't know. We kind of got the same thought process. And it'll be times where I get on Instagram Live and make songs with the fans and let them have an input on the songs and what we're going to we're gonna title the song and and what we're gonna talk about in the song like things of that nature so it's kind of hard to miss when you're doing that dope yeah so do you think that people

feel like because a lot of times with your music because it is like you said very personal and sacred to you people really feel like they know you and they feel like they know exactly what you're talking about you might have a song that you did two years ago and you put it out now and they feel like it's something that's happening to you now yeah most definitely yeah yeah that's that's that's the hard part about everything you know they they feel like every song that you make is a subject of what's going on today in today's world when in reality this could have happened 30 years ago well boys don't cry with this ep um for these songs, are these all current songs? Is this something that we should take as this is something that's happening to you now?

Yeah, for the most part. And if it ain't my story, it's somebody else's story. You know what I mean? Because I tend to do that a lot, too. I might make a song about some real life situations that's going on right now but it might not be something that's happening to me it might be my homeboy that's going through it and i just i just so happen to see it so yeah it could be that too now you're also going on tour with rod wave and with mariah the scientist yeah so um how did that tour come

together man honestly um we got the same booking agent so being that we got the same booking agent shout out to mac agency um we got the same booking agent it came time for him to go on tour and my name just got through in that bucket of you know people we wanted to bring on tour so you know they made it happen and now we're going on tour this is probably gonna be the fucking saddest tour i see the comments because i Like, I see the comments. Because I see the comments and shit, they're like, yo, I'm going to be crying

and oh my God. People want to cry, you think? Yeah, I think so. Like, I think people enjoy being sad nowadays. I don't know why. I think people enjoy processing their emotions

because for so long we haven't been allowed to, especially men. That's what I think. Nah, I did ask, like, sad. Like, when I started seeing the tweets i sat and i like i'm like damn let me dive into the music like and really see what the hell going on i started listening to the mariah the scientist spread thin and like that and then you and then you go to rod wave catalog and he got everything he got then i started diving back into my own i said damn i mean with songs like heartache last song love is last song yeah like that man i don't lie i say damn this

gonna be sad like somebody got somebody gotta come out this and turn this up a little bit or something but in a way you know what you're doing though because you put out last song then he's like i'm taking a break from social media come on now you always know what you're doing, though, because you put out live songs, and you're like, I'm taking a break from social media. Come on now. You always know what you're doing. You know what I mean? I feel like you didn't really take a break from social media. Hell no, I ain't taking no break. I know. Man, listen.

Hell no. I won't lie. One thing about it, though, man, I swear I done gave up on everything in life. Sports, school, relationships. I won't lie. When it sports school Relationships like just I Don't lie like my whole I wouldn't say I've been a quitter but I've been a quitter you get what I'm saying Music something that I could never quit. I can never give up. You think he was a quitter or just a runner. I was a runner Yeah, I definitely ran with times guard. I

Definitely say I was a runner running but that's something you know um acknowledging it'd be the first step and ever since then i kind of been working on it trying not to run away from my situations uh as much and like even you know even even you know when i when i first got into you know situations and shit like that my first thought I always be too All right, I'm out like if we we not finna do this like you wanna leave you believe I'm gonna leave Acknowledging that should be the first step and it's like damn like what you gonna run away from anything you go through And more importantly and you learn this in therapy. You can't run away from yourself No, you can't so you got to do whatever internal issues you got, you got to deal with them because you cannot run away from yourself.

You got to deal with it. You go to therapy? Yeah, once a week. Hell yeah, for about five, six years now. You don't? I used to have a therapist. Like, you know when your peoples get a divorce and shit like that, they make you go to counseling. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I used to have a therapist for that, and then I stopped seeing them. You know what I mean? Don't lie. That shit, that might be another reason a nigga make all this sad-ass music. You heard?

Therapy just gonna make you mix out of music. I've been traumatized. Word up. My whole life. Tell you, that therapy, my whole life been nothing but shit. Just going through shit. You heard? So, it's... Unpack it now.

Don't wait until, I waited until I was like 35, 36 years old. Do it now. So you got less years to unpack. Imagine trying to unpack 25 years of trauma. Yeah, nah, I don't lie, shit. Yeah, that's a lot. 25 years of trauma, a lot of shit. I'm fighting motherf fucking 18 years of trauma

When you did take a break from music cuz you said that's something that you would never run from yeah We still I'm a lot of crazy. I never take Like a whole project oh, yeah, I don't took longer breaks than that like I ain't I ain't put out no project But I but I done took a longer break than what I took this year. Because I was still dropping singles. I done went eight months without dropping nothing. So what did you do? Were you still working during that time, though? Yeah, the old man over there had me fucking.

He had me in the studio recording. We was just recording a bunch of music. I ain't have a catalog. That was the problem. I ain't have no music in the stash. And some of my greatest records came out of that. So I definitely appreciate that. But yeah, I was just recording. You talk about the trauma. So your new therapy, I guess, or your therapy is doing all these records then? Yeah, nah, I'm over that.

I guess that was the best thing, putting you in the studio. Yeah, putting me in the studio was like, yo, music was like the best thing that ever happened to me. You get what I'm saying? Like, it changed my life, and then on top of it changing my life, it opened my eyes to know who I truly am and what I'm here for. You know, like, my whole life been a plot twist. Like, ain't nobody ever expect for me to become who I am today, and people don't expect for me to become what I'm gonna become like I genuinely could look somebody in their eyes and tell them like this not the end for me like it's it's something way bigger than what people seeing right now it's just hard for me to speak on it because every artist would get up here and say that they're gonna be something

bigger than what they is today and some is but some not you know I mean some not gonna make it farther than this interview but when it come to me like I'm here to stay like my my name is of what they is today and some is but some not you know i mean some not gonna make it farther than this interview but when it come to me like i'm here to stay like my my name is something that's gonna stay afloat no matter what it's nothing nobody ever could do to change that well you know when god calls you it's not a conference call so it ain't for everybody anyway man listen there ain't no conference call at all i'm telling you everybody this ain't no zoom link i mean you can't log into this one and i feel like the good thing for you is things have been also getting bigger every single time and and the momentum is building instead of you coming out with a crazy momentum and then going away it's still getting higher

i'm gonna tell you what's so crazy though like um where were you and and this is for like all the artists that's out there right now don don't fall too deep into the politics. When you start to fall too deep into the politics and the numbers and you stop having fun with it and start to feel like a job and shit like that, it starts to feel crazy. I tell the people that surround me all the time, we got to get back to having fun with it because it definitely was a time where I i started to put on my you know

uh ceo suit i guess you would say in a sense and um started digging too deep into things that really don't matter for me it mattered for me but i ain't supposed to be handling it um so i started paying attention to the numbers like i never used to pay attention to numbers at all if the if the song did good it just did good because at the end of the day the numbers the numbers be what the numbers be but it's always somebody out there that's gonna relate to your shit more than the next person and that's what keep our artists going for real for us not about the fucking first week numbers and all that other bullshit that people try to make this shit seem like it's about it's not about it's not about these deals that's getting signed and like because all that should be cool but at the end of the day like when you having fun with the music all that

gonna come you get what i'm saying so i don't i don't lie like to the artists that's out there man don't fall too deep into the numbers don't fall into first week numbers second week numbers billboards and all type of dumb like that because half of the that's on billboards ain't never think they probably was ever gonna get no billboard you get what i'm saying like that should be some sporadic like that yo like like we was talking about like women on top of the game right now yep you ask some of the girls that's on like on top of the charts right now if they thought it was gonna happen as quick as that happened for them nobody ever saw music taking a turn that it's taking right now right when did we ever see artist ice glow rilla glow rilla when

do it cardi megan yeah i mean the internet because you get to see things happen so quickly yeah like so you got that and then and then on top of that not then you got artists like you know the bigger artists doing 17 000 first week 23 000 22 000 first week in sales and like that like nobody never saw music doing none of this like we looking at numbers like damn music is doing 200k 300k 150 000 now is doing not even niggas is not even doing a quarter of that right what do you uh what you think of the baby saying his comments him and tory lane's kind of saying they're blackballed from um honestly i seen i seen um i seen russ have a take on it he basically he basically said like you know it's no such thing as being blackballed if you're able to put out your music. So, honestly, I wish I could speak on that.

I don't need, like, when it comes to them shoes, I can't even say how to feel. Because I probably, if I was in their shoes, I probably would feel blackboard, too. You know? So, I don't know. I feel like any artist who got, like, an input on that, you you know that's all it is it's an input because at the end of the day like you won't know until you in them shoes yeah um but yeah though i feel like with the tories situation i feel like he definitely getting blackball really yeah i think i mean i can see the baby too i can definitely see the baby too with with

with baby i don't feel like it's really a I don't feel like it's a black ball. I feel like it's the world just. It's the backlash to what he said. It's the backlash. You get what I'm saying? Like with the playlist, right? Yeah. You don't see him on playlists.

Yeah. Any little playlists or, you know. And that's the crazy part. See, that's something I really don't know about. Because I never really made playlists. Like I'm not an artist. Well, they make playlists. We don't have a playlist for the type of music that I make.

You get what I'm saying? But I think on the streaming services, they'll put you on playlists. So when people randomly listen. And so I think that's what they're saying, right? But then Russ was saying, well, your fans will find you whether or not you're on a playlist. Yeah, and that's like, yeah, your fans will find you. But your fans also, like your fans, you you have fans and then you have fans and the fans are falling to the category of them thinking just like the people who not fans because that's

all that it be the motherfuckers who be who talk shit about you on the internet be haters and then the haters and then the haters hypnotize the fans because it's fans and then it's fans. The haters hypnotize the fans into thinking that it's fans, it's your fans who actually fans that's talking shit about you when in reality it's nothing but a hater being a hater. And you know what else?

And you know what I'm going to say too about those playlists? Sometimes I discover music that I wouldn't have discovered by listening to a playlist. Yo, it's so crazy. I don't make playlists. Me neither. If somebody tells me, Toosie, I'm going to discovered by listening to it. Yo, it's so crazy. I don't make playlists. Me neither.

If somebody tells me, Toosie, I'm going to go search Toosie. I've never been on Rap Caviar. I've never been on none of them shits. Same. But it might be like a hip-hop and R&B playlist. The songs randomly come up. I've never been on R&B. I've never been on the R&B.

What's the name of that major R&B? Rap Caviar. Like the R&B. A lot of of that that major R&B like the R&B is none of that but kids tell me they don't discover music via playlist really yeah you know because I know in the juice bar we put on a random playlist of like hip-hop and R&B and songs will come up and I'll be like oh I mean my music though like like not even just going to look that shit up my music has never been on any of them playlists. So I never, like, really knew. I never knew that the playlisting actually affected that shit that much.

Like, if playlisting affected niggas' numbers like that, that shit. Even if you're not looking for it. I won't lie, that's a different type of, like, that's a different type of power. But you think about not only in the person. When you go to the gym, there's always a playlist on. Fact. If you're in a cab, a lot of times there's playlists on. Word. So those songs just keep going over and over again.

They rolling. They rolling. And like an artist like DaBaby, like you were saying earlier, the thing with DaBaby, there's always two types of fans, right? A fan that's going to ride or die regardless. Word. And then there's a fan that wants a hit. Yeah. Depending on what type of record you have.

It's a fan that's fans because they see other fans. Fickle fans, right? So with DaBaby, if he doesn't have a hit because the playlist is not playing him, he's not spinning his records, radio stations are not spinning his records, he doesn't have that fan that's not playing a hit. Well, definitely.

And because of that, that's kind of being blackballed because they're not giving his records an opportunity. Also, too, you do realize, and I saw this stat the other day, I'm reading it because I put it in my phone. There's a stat that 1% of all artists generate 90% of the screams. 1% of all artists generate 90% of the screams. So if you're not in that 1%, are you really being impacted that much by screaming?

Well, the baby was probably in that 1% with all them records. Yeah, he was. Probably at one point. Damn. So you're saying 1%. They say 1% of all artists generating 90% of all screams shit already know no not really you look at the top 10 NBA young boy no young boys YouTube so young boy don't be young boys you too yeah I'm sorry you

too I don't lie but he got a different type of fan base. He does. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, Youngboy got a different type of, like, it a... I love the memes where they be like, NBA Youngboy fans be like... Yo, I don't lie, it a never be... They support him in right now. What?

It a matter what he do. I don't lie, crazy part, it a probably never be another NBA Youngboy. Like, no matter, no matter. One thing about it, bro, I live in reality, bro. You get what I'm saying? Like, that shit ain't no joke. So when they come to you and be like, we need you to do a young boy doing it on YouTube,

you be like, that's young boy. I can't. It's over, bro. That's a young boy. It'll never be another NBA young boy. It'll never, like, yo, bro, some things could be mimicked. That shit there you can't mimic

that he didn't even try to strategize that it just was organic that's just him you know what I mean so like when you get

something like that that's special are you from upstate yeah are you investing in upstate a lot because upstate is a growing market

when it comes to real estate crazy part nah I haven't even dove into none of that yet you know what I mean but yeah look into it because it's I mean the rent prices upstate are shooting through the roof.

Yeah. Property prices are great. And there's so many schools and colleges around there that people need a place to stay. Yeah, definitely. You should look into it. You can buy some property for not too bad a price. Yeah, we've been sitting and talking about that. That's something that's on our bucket list.

Now, what about putting, I know we had this discussion, but social media media putting like your um private life on there putting your girlfriend on there are you gonna move differently now because yeah i'm gonna keep it private i mean like it's just as simple as that like keep it off the internet because at the end i mean it might be a time where or or a day where you know i might throw throw the fam up there one time, but I don't know, bro. I'm chilling right now. I'm strictly focused on the music and getting this where it need to be.

Are you happy? Yeah. Which part? Just in life. I mean, you putting out songs like Heartache and Lonely. You know what I mean? I'm like. I don't want to lie, though.

That's a hard question to answer, you know. Because every day is different.. Because every day is different. Yeah, every day different. I don't walk around with my head down, but I definitely, sometimes I wish I was in a better position than what I'm in. I feel like it's different things that I could have did. And I never try to put the blame on nobody else, you know, because every decision that I made is a decision that I made. Life is about options so i mean at the end of the day i can't if if i walk around with my head down i'd be walking

around with my head down because some shit that i did i mean so i don't know life cool but do you beat yourself up for mistakes you've made hell no i don't know i don't do that at all but but i definitely say like sometimes I sit and be like, damn, I wonder how shit would've went if I would've never did this or I would've never took this step. But everything that you did got you to this point. Nah, almost nothing.

Everything, that's why I don't believe in good or bad. I believe everything is just part of one long process and it gets you to where you're supposed to be. Yeah, nah, it's why I don't believe in good or bad. I believe everything is just part of one long process. And it gets you to where you're supposed to be. Yeah, no, it's a process. Like, you know what I mean? My brother always told me to trust the process. So, you know, that's all I'm doing. I'm just trusting the process and putting in the work.

You know what I mean? You got to put in the work. All right, well, the album comes out this Friday. Boys Don't Cry. Yeah. If you want to be sad, if you want to be sad and get a good cry, get 2CVP, Boys Don't cry. Yeah. If you want to be sad, if you want to be sad and get a good cry, get two CZP boys don't cry. Sometimes you need that, though,

as we go through things in life. You're like, I need to listen to something. I don't know why I need to be sad. Sometimes you do. Shit, this interview done made me sad. Nah, for what, man? Only because it's raining outside.

It is raining. It is raining outside. It's cold and shit. He done it, man. We here talking about life and shit he done got sad that shit ain't not man i do think some of the best albums though i like those breakup albums you know like with mary j blige we love you know we used to love unfortunately she went through a lot sad shit she just called you tootsie j blige bro i'm like that's crazy

i can never i can never be there, man. You wake up in the morning and see that it was raining and just, like, stare? Nah, hell nah. Hell nah. Why are you making fun of what he's gone through? Yo, you see, this is what I'm saying, man. You know, as men, they just don't, they expect us to be so tough. No, I ain't crazy.

Nigga asked me, did I look out the window? Damn. Hell nah. I got out the window? Damn. Hell no. I got up. I got up. I don't lie. It was hard for me to get out of bed. I got up.

Why? You were tired? I was tired as hell. Okay, okay, okay. I don't lie. Why is this interview at 8 in the morning, bro? It's the breakfast club, too. First of all.

So y'all don't do no fucking interviews after breakfast? Damn. Hell no. Y'all need to switch to the lunch club or something. You about to be. I am. You about to be. Yeah.

January. Man, listen. I don't lie. They say 8.30. I say, y'all sure that 8.30 a.m.? Welcome to the life of an artist, Tootsie. And I'm sure you got more after this. I'm here, man.

You know what I mean? Hell yeah, I do. Yeah, I got like three more interviews. See? And then I got a listening party too much It's clean Yeah, man, he'll care about my You found I got the book right here for you. Cry Like a Man. It's right here. Oh, you found it. Yep, I was looking at it.

And you know what? I got two for you. Yo, bro, pull up your pants, man. While my ass was out? Yes. Ah, shit. Damn. That's that old man shit, man.

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