The Breakfast Club - Toosii Talks Growth, Ego, How Men And Women Define Love, New Music + More

Episode Date: June 14, 2023

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Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Of course, we have DJ Nala. Nala Simone up here. Yes. And we got a special guest in the building. A lot more money than we seen him last time. Got a lot more money. A lot more money. A lot more.

Nah, nah, nah. Tootsie, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome, brother. What's up? What's up? How you feeling? I'm feeling good, man. Al Mal, Al doing well? Yeah, yeah, man. We going crazy right now. Mm-hmm.

The Jor? Yeah. Was that something backwards? Nah. What is it? Nah, that's my real name. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's my real name.

So I always told myself, like, when I drop my debut album, it's going to be a subtitled album. Is that like French? Yeah, it is. It is? Yeah. You know what it means? Love and friendship.

Wow. Yeah. I always wonder what is a debut album You know what it means? Love and friendship. Wow. Yeah. I always wonder, what is a debut album nowadays? Because you've been out here for a minute. We have heard a lot of music, a lot of projects. Mixtapes, EPs, all types of records. How do you know when it's time? It be a different rollout.

I mean, with the debut album, we treat everything like an album, but it's a different rollout. It's a different process. Yeah, we seen six label people today, so that's how you know the difference, too. Arnold up here, you know it must be something different. The CEO don't come outside.

Is this album like a Toosie verse, your government name, is that the play on it? It's not really a Toosie verse, Najor. It's more so like, this is who Najor is. I've been seeing a lot of who Toosie is, but through the music, I'm going to tell my story.

So if you go just skim through the album, it'll be stories of my life. It's stories of my life all throughout the album. You know what your name actually means? Yeah, love and friendship. He just said that. You see what I tell you? I tell you you don't listen.

You heard me, right? I told you you just need to listen. I type blame all of y'all, though, because, bro, this shit crazy. Waking up at 9 in the morning. He been up since 4. I swear I ain't saying nothing about no love in French. She just asked him. I said it in French.

What's wrong with you? Oh, I heard that part. I definitely heard you ask if it was French. He daydreaming. Daydreaming. I was looking at your jewelry for a second. Nah, the shit. The shit you said fake.

Yeah, man. That's the same. Last time, remember? You didn't have the tootsie last time, though. I didn't have the tootsie. When he put the little diamond check on it. That shit went viral, too. Yo, bro.

Yo, that shit went so viral. He probably looking for the diamond check now. I got it back there. I ain't going to give him to you. I was fucking with him, bro. Yo, that shit was so viral. He probably looking for the diamond check now. I got it back there. I ain't going to give him to him. I was fucking with him, though. It wasn't my diamond. Nah, I was laughing because the dude was acting like it didn't work. I'm like, hold on.

Whoa. Come on. Nah. I know my shit now. Oh, shit. Now, you had a great first week with your sales. Do you care about first week sales since you have such a strong fan base? Man, honestly, no.

Because it don't matter when something catch off the album. You get what I'm saying? It could catch off the album a year from now. And as long as it catch, that's all that matter. I feel like, man, listen, it's generations with the music, man. Sooner or later, the niggas that's on top ain't going to be on top. They got to be somebody that come after them. And I'm not in no rush to get nowhere that I already know I'm going to be at.

So, like, the story I already wrote, I'm not tripping on none of that. How does it feel to have your dream actually fulfilled? Think about when you first met Arnold and he telling you these things, and I know you got your own thing that you believe, but now it's like, damn. Man, it's a blessing, bro. It's a blessing, and I'm just happy to be where I'm at. But at the same time,

I'm blessed to have the drive that I got, because I'm willing to do a lot of things that other artists not willing to do. I'm hungry, I'm humble, I'm confident, but in all, I'm a good person, and good things come to do it. I'm hungry. I'm humble. I'm confident. But in all, I'm a good person and good things come to good people. So I feel like that's the biggest thing. My personality go a long way. How's the city taking you in?

Man, like hometown? Yeah. It's cool. You feel me? Like, it's always love. I don't really, I ain't no outside person. I don't drink. I don't smoke. I don't party, I ain't no outside person. I don't drink, I don't smoke, I don't party, I don't do none of that. I ain't into that. Because that's one of the hardest, I would say, you know, it's, when people are not from New York City, those five boroughs,

it's always like it's even harder for them to break, because a lot of people don't accept the fact that it is. So I know you had to deal with that a lot. Yeah, nah, most definitely. Like, coming from upstate, man, like, from upstate man like it ain't no it ain't no love um but at the end of the day it's like so what like people see see the problem is

people get boxed in and they start to feel like you know where they at is the only thing that's in the world they try to become you know famous in their hometown before they become famous everywhere else and i took a different route i'm like i'm gonna travel the world and i'm gonna get known in all these other places to where it make it make my name look bigger and everybody at home got to respect me so like that was the route i took i mean from there we just we've been killing it but do you feel the love back home because you know you your hometown favorite yeah it's not too many artists from your hometown so it's like you are it so do you see the love back home? Because you're a hometown favorite. It's not too many artists from your hometown, so it's like you are it.

So do you see the love when you walk in and the kids was like, I want to be him, and the old teachers call him like, I remember you. Are you feeling that type of love? Because you deserve it. Yeah, always, always. Especially in my hometown, like in Syracuse. It's like, man, besides Post Malone,

but Post Malone, he don't really claim Syracuse. Post Malone, he from Syracuse? Iuse. Post Malone, he from Syracuse? I had no idea Post Malone was from Syracuse. I had no idea Post was from Syracuse. I thought he was from Milwaukee or like Oregon. Feels like a Utah. Utah. Utah.

I never knew that. I never knew that. Yeah, he was born in Syracuse, and then I guess he moved to Texas right after he after he was born like me is like I was there for a few years like I mean I got moved for a better life but other than that it's like you know yeah I see the kids I see the kids in school singing the songs I mean everybody still know me for for who I used to be you know my family still, my family's still ripping around through there. So, yeah, it's life, man. We just, I'm still Najor. The problem, though, is sometimes, man,

they want to keep reminding you that you are Najor. Like, you know, they want to little man you. Yeah, that get annoying. But, see, I think the good thing is I don't talk to nobody. Like, even from home. And it's not that I don't, it's not nothing personal. But I feel like at the end of the day, like, it ain't nothing to really talk about.

Like, we can't really see people be 50, 30, 40 years old and they don't got it yet. And I ain't finna, I don't got time to be teaching nobody how to live a lifestyle that's right in front of you. So, I don't know, I ain't doing that. Could you even tell somebody how to make it? If somebody asked you right now, man, yo, how do you make it to? I can give you the blueprint, but history don't do. I ain't doing nothing. Could you even tell somebody how to make it? If somebody asked you right now, man, yo, how do you make it to me?

I can give you the blueprint, but history don't do nothing but repeat itself. So everything that I tell you, you know what I mean? It's stuff that you can just go out there and see anyways. Like, what I'm doing right now, somebody done already did it. Feel what I'm saying? Like, this ain't nothing new that I'm doing.

I'm just doing it in a different way. And that's what people got to understand. Like, it's nothing wrong with studying the game and mimicking what people do and turning it into your own thing. Because, like, at the end of the day, that's what history is. No matter what we do in life, it's in some way, shape, and form, it's always somebody who did it before us. Like, there's too many people in the world.

So I feel like at the end of the day, the thing is just go out there and be yourself, and you're going to come to realize being yourself ain't even being yourself. Right. Do you feel the pressure? You know, because you talk about how all the kids that follow you, do you feel that pressure of I got to be a role model or I got to be this way because I know so many young kids I have as fans?

Nah. Well, it's not really pressure. It's for the better. It's basically like, you know, I had to sit down and realize the lifestyle I was living before, because a lot of people don't know Tusi for real. I ain't even going to say Tusi. A lot of people don't know 2C for real. I ain't even going to say 2C. A lot of people don't know Najor. I make the songs about love.

I make the songs for the women and all that shit. But in reality, it's like I'm from the bottom of the bottom. Before I was out here making these songs about these women, I was out here doing the same shit y'all niggas was doing. I was on the same time. But I had to change it because,, like my son came around, and then two, it's like, it wasn't good for me. It was messing up endorsements, brand deals,

like all type of stuff. So stuff was getting thrown out the window and I just had to tighten it up. At the end of the day it's like, yeah. So I feel like it ain't no pressure. It's just for the better. And you mentioned before, last time you were here, but for somebody who's just hearing you for the first time, why don't you drink before, last time you were here, but for somebody who's just hearing you for the first time, why don't you drink or smoke?

Because my granddad, like, well, being an alcoholic running my family, you know what I mean? And my granddad used to drink and smoke. And, like, when my granddad got murdered,

I had always told myself, like, I ain't never gonna smoke because it was just something that ain't, I don't know. I feel like if I get high, I'm gonna be moving slow. But I always told myself like i ain't never gonna smoke because it was just something that ain't i don't know i feel like if i get high i'm gonna be moving slow but i just told myself i ain't never gonna drink or smoke so i'll try to stay away from that no on this project it's very like um it's just very detailed and personal yeah i'm actually surprised about a lot of things that you mentioned from like

living in a van you know know, taking care of people, being touched, you know, how much you want a relationship with your father, you being a father yourself, like you really unpacked a lot of real shit. And there's a few bars that I wanted to pull and just kind of have you elaborate on.

This one's more like relationship. We'll get to the other ones. But you said now I'm getting old and it feels better talking about my problems than fucking out your soul so it sounds like you went through like a phase

with women and now you're kinda over it and now you got a lot to vent about that's a good bar that's a good bar to pull out I don't wanna lie I feel like that one

gets skipped a little bit I feel like yeah like as I'm getting older you know sex cool but I'm mentally drained. I'm at a point where I type on mine talking about my problems. Or like, you ever been in the club with somebody? I don't know if you go to the club, but you ever been in the club with somebody

and y'all supposed to be having a good time and then you get caught up in a good conversation? You know what I mean? And it's like, I came here for a different reason, but somehow, some way, me and this person just, we having a real, real deal conversation about life. Especially in the script club. Yeah, nah. I talk to a script club,

they be like, hey, you don't need to be here. Why you here? There's so many other things you could be okay. There's so many other things you could be doing. Yo, there's so many other things you could be doing. I won't lie, like, what made you start dancing? Like, how you got here? Like, nah, I would get deep. Then you start feeling guilty. You start feeling guilty.

Just take the money, just go. I'm him though. That, boy, I'm him. I'm him. That's why I don't go to the strip club though. I don't lie, I get in there, I start feeling bad for everybody. You feel me? I'm trying to save everybody.

It don't be no good for me. But yeah, I feel like now, now that I'm getting older, it's just certain things that don't like, don't fulfill me no more. I love the fucking out your soul part, cause that's really what it is, right? Like I always say when,

when we was out here in these streets back in the 1900s, like, you know, if we was feeding our ego, that's all it is. Like you're not feeding your soul when you out here in these streets back in the 1900s, like, you know, we was feeding our ego. That's all it is. Like you're not feeding your soul when you're out here just sleeping with a bunch of TV. You're really just feeding your ego. And you can't feed your ego. Your ego got a limitless appetite. Man, listen, it's limitless.

It's limitless, especially with men. Man, we got limitless egos. So, yeah, I feel like the biggest part is I don't know, man. I'm getting older, man. That's a good thing. You're so young. You are really young. Yeah, I feel like the biggest part is, I don't know man, I'm getting older man. That's a good thing. But you're so young, you are really young. Yeah, I'm 23. But his mind is getting old, he's thinking differently,

which is the most important thing. Oh, you fucked up. Oh man. You done ran through too many. Oh man. You see how you put the uncle voice on? You done ran through too many, young boy. Now you wanna slow down.

Let your uncle tell you how, baby. Now you wanna slow down. I don your uncle tell you how, baby. Now you want to slow down. I don't lie to shit, man. As you start to get older, though, man, you, man, that shit, you start to realize, like, these motherfuckers ain't no different.

For real, all y'all the same. Y'all all going to turn up for a different nigga. Y'all all going to act different when a different nigga come around. For real? Yeah, all of y'all, y'all all the same, man. I just, okay same i just okay go ahead now he said y'all that means you too personally attack i don't like that not everybody is the same maybe everybody you're around is the same but it's always one nigga in this world that's gonna make y'all that's gonna make that get y'all butterflies in y'all

stomach all type of shit gonna turn all that shit around. Yeah, yes, sir. No, sir. No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, BS a nigga in the world. Turn all that shit around, man. She treats you like, man, nigga, who the fuck is you talking about? What the fuck is you talking to?

That nigga come around. Yes, sir. No, hell no. I don't know why the fuck y'all sitting here laughing at that. I mean, it's kind of true. I done seen it. It's about 75% true. I know you don't know why the fuck y'all sitting here laughing at that. I mean, it's kind of true. I done seen it. It's about 75% true.

I know you don't love me. I was thinking the same thing. I know you don't love me. Feel me? And the thing is, it's like, I done seen it. But at the end of the day, it's the same for men as well. You guys deal with a certain type of woman. You might trick off more on this woman than you do with another woman.

I think it's just about people and character. It ain't tricking if she's worth it. Nah, let me tell you something, though. Nigga, it's tricking. I'm tricking on my wife. Let me tell you the difference between men and women, though. Y'all have standards. We don't give a fuck. We don't have standards.

That's nasty, and you should. That's a 23-year-old mindset. I understand what you're saying. Now you don't want to agree with that. If they tell you some of the stories, these niggas ain't you. Listen, I got standards, but like, the thing is when I was a young nigga out here,

like I ain't discriminate. Big, small, black, white. Now I be telling you, have I not told you this? If I like you, I like you. Yes, you nasty. No, that was back in the 90s. That was old, Sean. I was.

Do not put that on that man. That's the past. I know. I know. That's the past. I'm going to lie. But yeah, it's like men don't really like. See, y'all hold y'all.

That's why it's like when it come to women and y'all like, and a woman fucking around, y'all actually, and I hate when women try to act like this is not true. Y'all actually have to have feelings for a nigga in order to cheat. I'll say this. I'll say this. No, don't rush past that one. Don't rush past that one. Y'all got to have feelings for a nigga to cheat. Yo, we don't got to have feelings for no female for us to fuck her to cheat on her.

I say it all the time. Men cheat for ego. Women cheat for emo. And that's what hurts men so much. I agree. Emotion. For emo, yes. Emotion.

Emotion. Emotion. Emotion. But that's what hurts men so much because I'm like, this man got into your head. This man, you got to like this man. Yo, listen. I'm telling you. Y'all be liking niggas.

Like, for real. We don't be liking these girls. We just, you know what I mean? We don't be liking these girls We just You know what I mean We don't be liking these girls We just do it Just because Yo and then it's like After you

Get it off We feel disgusted Depressed Guilty I ain't even have to say it You don't think that happens To women also though No

You don't ever You don't think we ever feel bad About some shit You and Day Day Ready to go on a date Y'all ready You know what I mean You like Day Day

Nah you texting Day Day Like good morning Nah We not texting Day Day like, good morning. Nah, we not texting no good morning, no none of that. After that, it's over. Go, Nala, go. What? You might not never hear from me again. I don't want to make this like a gender war.

I'm just saying, it's real life. No, but it's just, you just got to find people and meet them where they're at. It sounds like the people that you meet are just not in a good space. Man, listen, ain't nobody in a good space. You can speak for yourself. I'm in a good space. Man, listen, ain't nobody in a good space. You can speak for yourself. I'm in a great place. Listen, the whole world messed up. You know what I mean?

What's a good space today? It wasn't a good space yesterday. You know what? I'll say this because this is one of the questions based off your lyrics because you're like, yo, what the fuck is love anyway? One of the questions I was going to ask you is what is love to you now? Because at the end of the day, you had to experience it in order to really figure out what it is.

Love is when you'll put somebody on a pedestal. You put somebody before you. I feel like that's when you know you love a person. You'll put whatever they have going on in front of you to make them happy, even if it don't make you happy. I feel like that's what love is. I don't know if that's what love is. Everybody-

I see what you're saying. This is part of it. This is part of it. No, no, no. No, the reason I say that, because the conversation we just had with Devon Franklin, he's a pastor, you know what I'm saying? He was saying how like,

you know, it's like you gotta be whole within yourself, and the other person has to be whole within yourself. Like, that person can't complete you. Right. Putting them on a pedestal is not gonna make you, like you shouldn't, if it don't make you feel better then it's really not the best thing for you. Like you said you got to do it in order, what you say I gotta put her on a pedestal? Like putting a person before yourself. Yeah, I don't think that's the way it's supposed to work. I used to think that. That's part love though, maybe I gotta gotta learn i think what you're trying to

say is just the willingness to compromise yeah i think that's probably but i feel like i feel like i feel like even with love though man like nobody would never find out the definition like man you and you would never know because everybody everybody has their own outlook yeah but you would put your wife before you and i'm sure you you have many times. I've had many times. A hundred percent. That's love. That's love. That's part of it.

That's part of it. Yeah, that's love, man. Go ahead, Nyla. I'm trying to make sure that's all I got on that love convo. Have you found love before? You done fucked your head up.

I know, right? Messed you up. You all over the place now. You sitting there thinking about everybody right now. I don't know about you. I would not go on a date with Day Day. Come on, man.

We know what's up, man. Have you found love before? You think you found love before? Have you ever been in love? Yeah, yeah. Hell yeah. I love my baby mama. Aw.

Aw, I don't play by my baby mama. I don't lie. I don't play. Do you think you're going to be able to be like a family unit? Yeah. Yeah. So she moved on, you wouldn't to be able to be like a family unit? Yeah. Yeah. So if she moved on, you wouldn't have a problem with it? Ain't no moving on.

Uh-uh. You said in the record, if she does, as long as he treats her right, you're okay with that. I lied. What the fuck? You believe that shit? It's the entertainment business. Fuck. Was that the way you was feeling at the time?

Hell no, I wasn't feeling like that. So why didn't you write it and say it? All right, man, I lied, man. Ain't no moving on, man. What the fuck? Hell no. I thought that was very big of you. You going to marry her?

Yes. All right. Okay. Yeah, man, we already married through Bible. That's what the Bible say, right? Through the Bible. See, you wearing a ring. I right. Okay. Yeah, man. We already married through the Bible. That's what the Bible say, right? Through the Bible. I see you wearing a ring. I just don't know what thing is.

I can't tell. No, that's not the wrong one. Okay, okay. Yeah, that's a little promise ring. He said, let me clarify that real quick. Oh, y'all got a promise ring? Yeah, a little promise ring. What's the promise?

Yeah. You promise to keep your dick to yourself when y'all out of town on the road. Yeah. A little promise ring, man. You know, I can't tell y'all about promise rings. Y'all going to be looking at me crazy. You know what I mean?

But nah, yeah, though. Nah, ain't no moving on. I don't know. I don't even know why. Nah. Well, it's a nice record. Yeah, I appreciate it. Hey, I lied about that part, though.

Whew. Got you. OK. Well, on God loves. You got a boyfriend? I got. You got a thing. I got... You got a thing. I got a thing, yeah.

Isn't this awful? Hey, hey. Isn't this awful? She started stuttering. You're like, I don't know. Oh, yeah. She ain't never think

nobody was going to answer that question. But now, if that woman sees this, she's going to be like, what? That's right. You better do

the definitive answer. Listen, we might cut this out. You better get the definitive answer. You got a boyfriend? Yo, I'll ask the question a definitive answer. Listen, we might cut this out. You better get a definitive answer. You got a boyfriend? Yo, I ask the question, you answer. Wow. I ask the question, you answer.

I just want to make sure I'm not the only one. Yo, I can't stand y'all today. We here. Listen, hey, real life, real love. Real life, real love. Great book. Make sure you guys get that. Make sure y'all go get it.

So I really like God Loves Me. But you have a line on here where you say, I don't think I'm better than no one. I think we're equal. Most definitely. Do you really feel like you're equal with everybody? Because, look, you're young. You're making a lot of money.

You have a lot of success. Do you really feel like that? And if that's the case, how do you stay humble? I feel like everybody's successful in their own way. And I can never do what you do. I can never do what he do, or I can never do what he do. We all our own people. So I feel like, in a sense and in a way, we all equal.

You get what I'm saying? I'm good at what I do. You good at what you do. That don't make me no better than you. I feel like a lot of people get blinded by the light in a position that artists are in or athletes and just all these people that's in the entertainment business. I think they get blinded by the fact that, you know, like you see how invested people be in our lifestyle.

It's like, why do you care? You only care because I'm where I'm at. But if this happens, because the stuff that happened with us is stuff that happened every day. Yeah. You know what I mean? Niggas cheat. Niggas lie.

They get in fights with their girls. It happens every day. But it's an image painting when people like us do it. That's an entertainment business. And I think, I don't know,

I just feel like we are equal. It ain't none of us no different. You're 100% correct like we're not our things like show me the person that can't get sick show me the person

that can't die and I'll be like now that person ain't like us he's not equal nah worry he's immortal that's right

whoever that is he's immortal but I feel like other than that we all we all the same I sneeze like y'all sneeze I mean whatever

that's why you should treat everybody with the same respect. I always say I judge people based off, I judge you based off how you treat people that can't do nothing for you. Yeah. You know what I mean? Because if you don't treat the custodian the same way you treat the CEO,

you ain't the type of person I want to deal with. Right, right. And the custodian been taught you more than the CEO. That's right. You know what I'm saying? I've had a lot of people like that. Yeah. All right.

So in Villains and Heroes, I like the concept of the record i like this this is like a personal interview yeah it's like me and you we're here let's do it so in villains and heroes um i like the concept of the record but in the intro i'm a little confused by it because it says you know a wise thing somebody told me was everybody hates the villain because the villain sacrificed the world to save one person and a hero would sacrifice one person to save the world. So does that mean the villain is right? Like are you painting the picture as in like the villain isn't so bad? I'm painting the picture as in I may be the villain in somebody else's story, but in your story I might be the hero.

You know? So sometimes being a villain ain't a bad thing. You know? So, like, just to break it down, they say everyone hates the villain because if you think about the villain, it's always a reason as to why they're a villain. And it's often behind love or not feeling love. And the thing is, they always, no matter what what happened it's always like they want one thing back or one person back um and with the villain it's like everybody hate the villain because the

villain uh sacrificed the world to save one thing or one person but with the hero it's often like they'll let somebody die or let something happen to somebody to save the world. And in reality, it's like, all right, who really the villain? Because if you'll fucking let me die, you're the villain in my story. But to everybody else, you might be a hero. Now, with you, it's like I might be the hero in your story because at the end of the day, I'm going to forget everything that everybody else got going on in your story. I want to save you.

And that's all it's about. So I don't mind being a villain in somebody else's story to be your hero. So, yeah, I feel like that's what it was. If that makes sense. I know I just said a little bit. No, it does. That makes sense. I watch a lot of Marvel movies,

and you can never really tell who the bad guy is. You don't know if Thanos was a hero or villain because what he actually wanted to do was gonna help the planet. He just had to get rid of half of the population to do it. And then he had the thing with his daughter. Yeah. All of that shit is deep,

but you never know what are you truly? Are you a villain or are you a hero? Or it's either like most villains started off as heroes. You know what I mean? I killed Mongo in Black Panther. He'll Mongo like, I gotta kill Black Panther cause I need to be the king so I can get all these resources to go help black people all around the world.

Exactly. Guys keep in mind too, Scott leaving in a sec, he got another. We was late on him. Let's get through some more of these bars, I like this. Okay, this is my last one, then I'll leave it alone. I know you got Willow on the interlude. Wallow, wallow.

I said Willow. I didn't say Willow. I said Willow. I whipped my hair back and forth. I whipped my hair back and forth. You got Wallow, and I love that he's on there, because I like the little motivational that he's giving, because it applies whether you're going through hardship in love, work,

career, whatever it may be. But in it is when you really talked about how you kind of like fiend for your relationship with your father yeah i just wanted to know like what is your relationship with your father like and how are you implementing like what you like or didn't like i don't know that's that's that's my like that's my that's my best friend um he a good person and he when i when i turned um that's why I had moved to South Carolina with my dad was living in Goose Creek um when I got a certain age you know he moved on his own um my mom came and got me and we just you know it was some years where we really ain't had no relationship but at the end of the day if i ever really needed him i know he always there so like no matter what like that's why like for for some reason with me it's like

and i just had this conversation with somebody the other day um when it comes to blood like a certain type of blood because blood like when it comes to blood you got friends and then you got friends that you treat like blood yeah but i don't lie i got some blood that i could never like love the same way that I love my friends. And what I mean by that is, like, my brothers and sisters, I love my friends to death. And I look at them like brothers and sisters. But my actual brothers and sisters, like my mom, kids,

we've been together so long, I can't look at. I don't see how people look at their friends the same way that they do their blood. Like, I could never do that. You know what I mean? So I feel like when it comes to, like, my dad and all of them like it's a special love like no matter what they do to me i'm always gonna love them i definitely got friends i treat like more family than my blood i don't lie bro my brothers and sisters i don't know i just can't like we done been through too much i'm talking about full-on family family versus family fights like like real bottom

of the bottom i raised my sister kids while she was in prison for three years my brother go to jail we raising his kids my my brother and sister go to jail at one time then now it's like it's me my older brother and my sister and my mom and we trying to figure it out every day okay then you know christmas time come around my sister used to boost i used i ain't never used to go out go without my sister was a booster killing dillards what killing everything i can get i can get one of my tissues give me a tissue show oh but yeah not like um my sister my sister was a booster or whatever so like i ain't never used to go without for a for um so

that was like i don't know it's a special bond yo like we ain't good how close are y'all in age um i don't know i'm i'm 23 23 i think it's 23 26 27 23 26 27 30 and 32.. Yeah, it's like y'all all kind of in the same age bracket. Boy, I don't want to fuck around. I like hearing you talk about your dad because I feel like a lot of times, culturally, we kind of underestimate the impact of a dad. Y'all got to meet him, man. Next interview, man, I'm going to bring him in here.

He might fuck around coming here in some Coogee jeans or something. I love that. Coogee jeans. You got to watch the OGs like that, right? The reason why is they from a different era, and they just say wild stuff. Yeah, nah. I would lie. Like me and Charlamagne would never bring our dads because there's no telling what they'll do.

Most corner South Carolina. Yo, that would be great. I'm going to send you a text he sent me. I ain't going to tell you what it's about. Don't say it on air. Just let him say it. Nah, I'm just going to let you. He sent me this.

Oh, you seen it? He told me. Oh, my God. He sent me this a couple weeks ago. Hold on. What is that? Yo, my dad, I swear to him. Let me see this.

Look at this. Look. Why he open his mouth like that? Exactly. Exactly. That's the reason why. I don't want to lie to you. That's wild.

You see what I'm saying? The ha-ha killed it. The ha-ha-ha with the ha-ha. The ha-ha killed it. And my pops don't play, you know, with jeans with holes in them. Like, he don't play that lazy. Oh, nah, word?

Yeah, nah. Nah, yeah, nah. He from a different era. I don't lie to my dad. Different, man. My dad, I don't lie to my dad, still think he like in, like, G-Unit and shit like that. Oh, my God. Yeah, word.

I don't lie to my dad. Yo, my dad throw it off, though. For real, my dad throw it off. Did you always have a good relationship, or did you have to get to that? Yeah, that's my nigga. Yeah, word. I don't lie to my dad. Yo, my dad throw it off, though. For real, my dad throw it off. Did y'all always have a good relationship, or did you have to get to that? Yeah, that's my nigga. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, that's my nigga.

Like, I don't play about pops. So you have a close-knit family, but I know you mentioned being molested. Was that within the family, or if you don't want to talk about it, it's okay? Nah, it wasn't really. It was, like, me. it was being a young nigga. Like, me dealing with an older woman, and at the time not knowing it was wrong until I got older.

Charlamagne told you his story because he dealt with a similar situation. Same exact thing. I was eight years old, getting touched on by an older woman. Thought it was okay. Actually, I made her stop because I didn't like the smell of her jerry curl. But I realized when I was- That's funny, Thought it was OK. I thought it was, actually, I made her stop because I didn't like the smell of her jerry curl.

But I realized when I was. That's funny, but it's true. It's true. It's true though. It's true. It's true. It's true. And when I was young, I used to,

I remember those little things you used to throw, the firecrackers that used to pop. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the poppers. At one point, I just started throwing them at her. Like, leave me alone. Because I realized, it was my body rejecting me, realizing, like, yo, this, she ain't supposed to be doing this to you. That's not right.

But in my mind, it was I didn't like the smell of her yo, this, she ain't supposed to be doing this to you. But in my mind, it was, I didn't like the smell of her Jericho, and I didn't realize that I got way older, actually. So I turned 18. I was like in my 20s. Nah, when I turned 18, that was when I like, I found out like, like I wasn't even supposed to be doing that, like what I was doing.

But like, I don't know, it's so weird because it's not like, it's not like I didn't like. It's so, it's so weird because it's not like, it's not like I didn't like it. I was just, Lord have mercy. No, I didn't mean it like that, but you're saying it.

I said, this is the shit I be telling my therapy. I gotta tell people to laugh because when you say Jericho, people always think it's a joke. Yo, nah, that's what we think is a joke.

Cause like, that's like, that was like, that was like the little Kevin Hart damn shit. Lord have mercy. It's confusing, because you do like it. You like it. But then you like the same right. It's not right.

Yeah. Yeah, that's it. But let's get into a song off the top. I know you gotta go do another interview. Did you ever confront a person? Nah. Did you, Charlotte, in the past? Do you want to?

Nah. Nah. No. Nah Nah Cause I mean I mean God gonna deal with that Like I ain't no I ain't Hey she did it

Like we not gonna do that Cause God gonna handle it But it's a pretty common thing Like you don't want anybody To do that to your son Nah Or to do that to another family member Nah

Nah I never I would never want that to happen But I just It's something to keep to It's so Yeah it's so I get you I don't want it to become a but I just. Something to keep you. Yeah, it's so. I get you. I don't want it to become a big thing.

And we got to change our approach to it, because even back then, you know, you tell somebody you was with an older woman, they cheer you on. Yeah, they like it. Yeah. I mean, they like it, like, especially for a man. I mean, for a woman, it's wrong,

but with a man, it's like they look at it like, nigga, all right, good job. That's why I said we got to change our approach. We got to tell our young sons. I don't have any sons. I got all daughters, but like, that's not right. That's not right. All daughters, how many daughters you got? I was a big ho, too.

Oh, God. You got four daughters, boy. And you guys need to treat yourselves with the same standards that women are expected to treat themselves with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who y'all got? Practice that narrative.

That's at all of you. You know me. Make eye contact with all of you. What y'all guys? You guys are doing great now. Thank you. Thank you. I got four daughters.

I must acknowledge that. You were talking to my past, though. Appreciate it. Well, let's get into a song. What you want to hear off the album? Let's hear another love song, man. All right. Another love song.

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