The Breakfast Club - Tory Lanez On Being Unapologetic, Independent, Talks Allegations, Hair Restoration + More

Episode Date: September 29, 2022

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Starting point is 00:03:25 We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. I'm out this Friday. Tory Lanez. What's up, son? How you doing? You tired, nigga? Nah, I'm tired.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I seen your tweet. I got to sleep in three hours. I have to do The Breakfast Club in the morning. Yeah, that shit was about three hours ago. I was at Starlet's. No, you was out last night. I think it's a tradition that every time I come here, I go to Starlet's the night before. And they come here? I just had to do that. What was happening at Starlet's last night? I think it's a tradition that every time I come here, I go to Starlets the night before. Starlets first, and then come here?
Starting point is 00:03:45 So I just had to do that. What was happening at Starlets last night? Regular shit. You know what I'm saying? How much you spent last night at Starlets? Nothing crazy. What's nothing crazy to Tory Lanez? Nothing like $3,000 or nothing.
Starting point is 00:03:56 All right. Nothing crazy. It was mad late. It was like literally 30 minutes left. I didn't even get to spend the money. Okay. Now, sorry for what now that your new album? First of all, are you signed to a major or are you independent? No, I'm independent. Fully independent. left I didn't even get to spend the money okay now sorry for what now that your new album first
Starting point is 00:04:05 of all you are you signed to a major or are you independent or I'm independent fully independent um one umbrella records you know we distribute through create but for now and that's how you want it yeah for sure I've always wanted to be independent and um you know be able to touch the money that the labels touch just being an independent artist. Oh, yeah 1000% so you prefer the independency over it. Of course. It's a lot more freedom You could do whatever you want drop whenever you can't get canceled. You gotta worry about somebody telling you You're good you're able to just kind of move freely and I think Just for me being such like an eclectic artists and artist who's just like kind of all over the place musically, that's good for me.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Like, you know what I'm saying? To be able to move and do what I want to do musically whenever I want to do it. Now let's start off with the title of the album. Sorry for what? What is the title expressing and talking about? I think for me, you know, I've always been a very unapologetic person when it comes down to my craft and to the things that I enjoy and the things that I love. And I feel like when we was creating the album and creating the album title, you know, and listening to the music and how it sounds, it sounds unapologetic. But it also gives you that, like, resilience, that standing in the wind when it's blowing, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:25 and I feel like it's just about staying tall and, you know, staying true to you and, you know, being unapologetically yourself. So I called it Sorry For What. Now recently you got into an alleged altercation with an R&B artist, August Alsina. Look, man, like I said, I'm here to just answer about the album. We've seen the video. I've been putting
Starting point is 00:05:48 this hand out. Well, is there an open investigation with the LAPD? Because I saw they said they were looking into it. Again, couldn't tell you. Don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:56 But, you know, like I said, I'm here for the album and positivity. I know, you know, and don't get me wrong, I'm always here to answer all the questions and stuff,
Starting point is 00:06:03 but I'm really just here just preaching positivity today, like, you know what I'm saying here to answer all the questions and stuff, but I'm really just here just preaching positivity today. You know what I'm saying? Everything that's been going on in my life and the things that's been going on around me, I just try to keep positive. So no disrespect, but I'm just not here to talk about it. Just one last question. Now, we've seen that you walk by each other and he put his hand out.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Did you ever know that y'all had a problem? Because I'm sure if you knew there was a disagreement, you wouldn't have put your hand out. No, I mean, just generally speaking, regardless, I don't have a problem with anybody. And I wrote for him before this. You know, it's not one of those. Oh, so you pen stuff for his projects and stuff like that? For sure.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Well, for Meek and August, the record they did, I did that. Oh, okay. That's probably why, because I guess he had an issue with the freestyle that you did, talking about the situation again and sometimes i like i like i like how we're doing this but like i said i'm here to talk about um i like where you guys are going do you ever have like um you know you've been through a lot like you said recently and now you're trying to do all positivity but do you ever feel like if there were people that were not in your corner then are you forgiving of that as you know as
Starting point is 00:07:09 time passes the thing about it is is like i can never be upset about someone's opinion you know and um when there's people who have opinions it's like whatever they thought at the time was just whatever they were feeling at the time and i know know that, you know, a lot of people's opinions have changed up and down about me. And, you know, it's not of me to be a judge or to be God or to be playing God's role in judging people. I forgive everybody. You know, I don't forget, but I forgive. So you could work with somebody who might have said something negative about you. Of course.
Starting point is 00:07:40 I'm not a, I'm about this money. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm about getting to the money. I'm about getting to the business. I'm about getting to the business. I don't hold negative feelings about anything anybody said about me. Like I said, I don't forget that you said it, but to not forgive you is just bitter. And I'm not a bitter-hearted person. During this time, of course, people took sides and nobody knows the truth.
Starting point is 00:08:03 And I'm sure we'll never know the truth until it comes out in court. Do you always do you look who you work with depending on that? Like, for instance, right. And I'm going to bring up August. I'll say that, but not to do with you. But when the thing happened with August, everybody made jokes. Right. Everybody talked about it. Everybody threw a line in the rap. Everybody threw. But it was the culture. Right. Something happens to Angelique. Something happens to me. Everybody's going to have jokes. Of course course something happened with you everybody has jokes but now when it gets down to when it goes to that music making process how do you decide who you want to
Starting point is 00:08:32 work with who i'm not going to work with or is it just like i don't care it is what it is i mean yeah like i said like musically and business business wise like i'm about whatever makes sense you know what i'm saying and whatever feels like it's the thing that i should be doing i don't discriminate per situation or you know whatever's going on I just I still reach out to everybody and you know some people will will be either ready to do it in the moment or some people won't or for whatever reason and sometimes it's not even always the reason that you think sometimes it's other reasons you know um but nah I've never I've never, I don't, I don't look at people like that. It's just kind of like, you know, if you want to make something and it makes sense and it's going to
Starting point is 00:09:11 make us money and we can get to the business, let's get to the bag. Why not? And I was also going to say when it came to it, you know, you had people picking sides or whatever and not knowing the real of what happened. Right. And some of these people you were friends with, you know, I mean, how does that affect your relationship moving were friends with, you know what I mean? Of course. How does that affect your relationship moving on when it comes to it? I mean, I feel like, at least in my personal— Because a lot of those people you've done things for before. Of course.
Starting point is 00:09:35 I've wrote a lot of these things. But I will say this. I will say this. You know, the way it's painted in the media, you know, they would have you thinking that, like, nobody fucks with me. with me but like I talked to everybody that I've spoke to before you know and even throughout this um there was moments when it was a little bit more like crucial to go out in public and do certain things because you know and it wasn't that people had an issue with me it's just people didn't want a backlash coming from something that you know they weren't involved in or whatever the case is and i think that just for me like i've always been a guy that's
Starting point is 00:10:10 been good at kind of assessing the situation and kind of seeing like you know who moves a certain way and like i said it all falls down to this it's like i forgive but i don't forget so it's like again i can't base no situations off of how you moved in the past or whatever. You know what I'm saying? And how did you not fold, right? And everybody can say, oh, I'm not a fold. I'm strong. I'm going to stay in 10 feet towers.
Starting point is 00:10:34 But that's bullshit when it comes to most things, right? And the reason I say that is because, I mean, you know, they, you know, they, you know, tried to ban you DJs from playing your records. They tried to, and who knows who they is, but, you know, they tried to make sure that your record wasn't spent on radio. They tried to ban you from clubs and venues and, you know, performances. So how do you not fold when all that's going into play?
Starting point is 00:10:59 I mean... Because there was a time when niggas was not fucking with Tory Lanez. They was not going to play your records. And it was that little bit of time. But you now buckle. I always kind of felt like the world didn't fuck with me before that. So it's like, you know, that has never affected me. But I will take you into my world for a split second, right?
Starting point is 00:11:20 You know when you do something fucked up. Before you do that, you can't say the world didn't fuck with you, right? Pandemic time. No, you can't say the world didn't fuck with you, right? Pandemic time. No, I don't mean... You created something in the pandemic that the world fucked with. Of course, of course. During that time. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:11:33 I mean, that was a solid two, three months. Which was amazing. You feel me? But I'm just saying, just in the overall... You know when you have a day that something happens on the Internet. And, like you said, you know, a bunch of people will start making memes and laughing and da-da-da-da. And you feel like, oh, my gosh, it's the end of the world. You got to understand, like, I've learned to live over there.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Like, a million people that are hating on you. Imagine that for two and a half, three years straight. It's like you get to a point where it's like, it's kind of normal for me. Like, you know what I'm saying? And I know artists are always like, yo, I'm not, you know, I'm not scared of the comments or I love my haters. They see three, four, five, ten comments saying the same thing.
Starting point is 00:12:25 You look at it and you're like, damn, like, as an artist, I need to pay attention to whatever. It's like if you post a picture right now and you got 2,000 comments, but 20 of those comments that are, like, back-to-back happen to be like, yo, Envy, your nose is big as shit, bro. You might look in the mirror and be like, yo, is my nose really, really big as shit let me see but but over a period of time of a million people telling you this every single day you start to be like well if my nose is big
Starting point is 00:12:54 so be it i'm not tripping on that you know you start to accept whatever flaws that people are trying to pick and pick at you and then it gets to this point where you really actually don't care about like the hatred or whatever the case is i kind of live over here i'm not allowed to trying to pick at you and then it gets to this point where you really actually don't care about like the hatred or whatever the case is I kind of live over here I'm not allowed to you know live in that place where artists live where it's like yo if I just keep doing something good and you know the people are just gonna love me and da da da da da it's more so like whatever I'm doing niggas gonna hate it regardless but I'm gonna keep on going and my mindset is so tunnel vision on that that nothing really bothers me and I was gonna ask you know with the with the
Starting point is 00:13:31 new project in all your music do you feel like no matter how great the music is right how great the the record you make how well it does it'll always get blocked out from the other stuff? I mean, for now, while I'm in the situation that I'm in, and, you know, for any artist, again, I bring you into my world. You know the artist, you get to be excited. Yes, I made this shit. Like, this shit is fire. I made that shit. It's like I'm making shit that's fire and knowing, like,
Starting point is 00:14:03 yo, this is not getting playlisted. This is not going where, you know, it's a thing. You could be like, I made this shit that's fire and knowing like this is not good way but here's the difference right is that my my mind and my hustle and my drive is so deep and the people around me care so much about us just popping and getting our stuff done that I don't run into situations where it's like well damn this is gonna slow me down now I'm like well all that means is I just need to do double what the artist is doing I need to do double the amount of volume to to reach what they're reaching because they're doing it through an algorithmic playlist i'm getting these numbers now organically so now what artists are getting from these editorial playlists
Starting point is 00:14:51 i'm actually touching organically you gotta you understand like i got uh 16 point something million uh monthly listeners on spotify when I'm looking at other artists, and I'm talking about like popping artists, when I'm looking at other artists, they don't have the same, it's not even like, it's like half of what I have, but it goes to show you that the volume,
Starting point is 00:15:15 the dedication, the amount of times I'm gonna keep striking, I'm not gonna stop. And I'm gonna keep making hot shit. I'm not a one hit wonder. I'm someone who knows how to make music. So to me, it just gives me extra drive. It's like, all right, cool.
Starting point is 00:15:31 I just got to work triple times the average artist. But that's never been an issue for me. It's like no matter what you put in front of me, I'm lion-hearted. You know what I'm saying? I'm a Leo. My mom always told me I was a wolf. And she said, you know, wolves, we, we, we fight in packs. And, and at the end of the day, you know, a wolf's always going to bring it back home to the pack. And like, that's just kind of how I look at it. Like it's a lot of people who depend on me,
Starting point is 00:15:56 my family, my, my friends, you know, my team. And I always want to make sure that they know that through any, any weather, through anything, through through any storm i'm gonna bring it back you know what i'm saying like that's that's that's what i kind of pride myself on is like i'm gonna be resilient through anything and yeah when you make when you make music you got a question yeah i was i was gonna ask you you tweeted out that a boogie was the only um feature on the project but he was also the only person you reached out to. Yeah, well, and my brother, my brother Yoko Gold, he was also the only feature on Daystar, the album that came out. But yeah, they're the only two featured. And I didn't even reach out to him. He was actually recording in a studio that was like across from our studio, one called Camp David, which I used to record all my records in I still do some
Starting point is 00:16:46 time time But he was in there and then he came inside the studio And I hadn't seen this nigga in mad long like like Matt can I get some of this water? Yeah you got it that's yours Niggas lips dry as shit But I hadn't seen a nigga in mad long And when I seen him it was just so refreshing because I hadn't seen a nigga in mad long. And when I seen him, it was just so refreshing because I hadn't heard, like, new music from him
Starting point is 00:17:07 and stuff like that either in a while. And just seeing him, you know, he's like, you know, he had a tat on his face. He was like this new guy, like, you know what I'm saying? And he was just so ready to work, and it was so refreshing just to see somebody that, in my times of working, who's always been a partner with me, like, when we work, just to see him so motivated and just ready to go just like I bet I'm gonna do this one song with
Starting point is 00:17:28 you I was gonna leave a project like how it was but you know I'm gonna leave you on there and I'm gonna put my brother on there and then that's that's it like you know I was gonna ask you know with with with your music and your songs and I am the reason I'm asking is that you know we're artists now it seems like every judge da prosecutor goes through their songs to try to connect something do you have to be careful what you write in your song because you're like oh they might try to use this and say this is concerning to this especially for somebody that doesn't know our culture um i don't really i don't really say wild shit in my music
Starting point is 00:18:00 like that to that point i'm i'm more concerned about what i gotta say on twitter like i gotta you know what i'm saying like and that's another thing i know you know time after time there's there's always a time when a story will come out about tori leans and then the narrative will be wild y'all gotta know like as much as i would like to like love to tell y'all niggas a narrative i can't i'm not allowed to I'm in the open case until that's done you're there's gonna be a couple narratives that you're just not gonna get because I can't speak about them so it's like you know why I don't I don't play around or dance around those lines or try to play with those people over there it's like nah so you see like you see some of these blogs and be like well Tori said this is a song you must be concerning he must be
Starting point is 00:18:42 advising to this you like oh yeah I, oh, here I go again. I'm going to get in trouble for something that I didn't even do. Well, nah. I just go, well, there's another story I can't talk about. But whatever the narrative is that they're saying, I got to run with it, and I got to wait until there's a time when I can talk about it. So now that this album's coming out this Friday
Starting point is 00:19:02 and you're kicked off the tour. Hold on I'm just joking I want you to explain it now We're not gonna get into this deep But I was never on a tour You did three dates That was it
Starting point is 00:19:11 Two dates Two dates They called me for the third one But we canceled It wasn't enough money I'm not being funny I know the story And I love rock
Starting point is 00:19:20 You know what I'm saying It's not one of those things like Where I'm trying to disrespect Or whatever the case is But if we're just being honest, I do real tours. I really sell tickets for real, for real, by myself. So you did two shows. I wouldn't be on an R&B tour with a comedy thing.
Starting point is 00:19:35 I just liked the way that they did it. I thought it was dope. Like, yo, you do these two shows? I did it. I wasn't really contracted to do a tour. Yeah, and it was two songs each each Yeah, it wasn't supposed to be some set like nah, they could only afford two songs I mean like you gotta understand like like if I'm gonna go for 30 30 40 minutes
Starting point is 00:19:55 It's gonna cost somebody around 150 something like that If it's a full set 60 minutes gonna cost you around two to something You're asking me for you. You got 40 grand for me like it's gonna get you around two to something you're asking me for you you got 40 grand for me like it's gonna get you two songs so you did two songs you only have two dates you weren't supposed to be on the third date and you're not on that tour you would you weren't on no tour i didn't even know that was a tour i just thought it was a weekend that they were doing you know which which again there's always a time when there's a narrative. And like I said, I got to watch it and be like, even me, like talking about it now, I'm not trying to wake nobody up and start something new or whatever.
Starting point is 00:20:34 You know what I'm saying? I just be trying to stay out the way, like, you know. Are there ways that you feel like you should move a little differently? Being that every time something happens, like I saw the article in Madam Noir, it's like mute Tory lanes after the August Alcina incident. But do you feel like, okay, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:51 there's this like aggressive aura that people are saying, this is how Tory lanes is. And so being that you have some open cases, there's no aggressive, there's no aggressive aura about me. There's aggressive narratives that are never, that are only told by one side. But anybody who really knows me or seen me or is around me is one of the most gentle, nicest people in the world.
Starting point is 00:21:18 And I say that just because I'm a nigga who plays too much. I'm always laughing. I'm always joking around. I'm not a guy who's, like, just tough interior. I never portray to be a gangster. I never portray to be a thug. I never portray to be any of those things. I stand on business, and I stand on positivity,
Starting point is 00:21:37 but I stand on what's right at the end of the day. The difference is, you know, in the last two, three years, is that it's not that Tory Lanez has gotten more aggressive. It's that stories come out and Tory Lanez can't explain himself no more. Tory Lanez is a very outspoken person. I'm very outspoken. I love, I'm always there to be like, nah, no, this is what happened. Stop.
Starting point is 00:22:01 I'm always there to be outspoken. I'm, you know, I'm an outspoken artist, but I'm not allowed to do certain thingsoken. I'm, you know, I'm an outspoken artist, but I'm not allowed to do certain things. Certain things correlate to this and that. And then people that don't need to be looking into this, start looking into that and this, and then it turns into something, you know? But again, like, it's not that, that Tory Lanez has gotten more aggressive. It's that the narrative has gotten more aggressive since other narratives have been aggressive about me. And it's like like let's just pile these on while he can't talk i see you still got that playboy
Starting point is 00:22:28 earring on so let me ask you still a playboy baby exactly but then you have a song on the album right where it's called this ain't working and i'm like does tori lanes want to settle down and get married and have a bride but then you have other songs where you're like he's seeing a picture with some people out and about too but then you have other songs where you're like... He's seen you picture with some people out and about, too. But then you have other songs where you're, you know, just being a guy running around doing him and fucking her and her friends and everybody else. So what does Tory Lanez really want? I'm 30 years old.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Like, could I not? But I'm just saying, you know, it's 20 songs on the album, so we get both of those things. Is that something that you struggle with within yourself? Like, on one hand, maybe I want to be... I don't know if I'm, like, super great with, like, commitment in relationships. I've seen you in five pictures. Now, five pictures with the same person, it's starting to feel like it's almost a relationship.
Starting point is 00:23:24 I mean, hey. pictures with the same person it's starting to feel like it's almost a relationship i mean hey i mean like like you know whatever if you got your your opinion on whoever you're seeing me with but i mean like i'm just talking about in my real personal life like i think that i have an issue sometimes with commitment i mean why is that i think it's hard to find somebody who matches my speed. You know, I'm a real, like, rock star, and sometimes, like, the things that I do are just, like, really spontaneous and da-da-da.
Starting point is 00:23:54 I don't think I've found, like, you know, my person that's, like, exactly like me. You know what I'm saying? And maybe I'm not supposed to be trying to find a person that's exactly like me. you know what i'm saying and maybe it's not maybe i'm not supposed to be trying to find a person that's exactly like me or maybe it's supposed to be like climbing to the top rafters of the clubs performing anymore no i am oh boy oh i am oh i am i just uh you know things things things change i do i do look at you know certain things differently um just as i get older and I do see myself settling down though
Starting point is 00:24:25 don't get it twisted like I don't feel like I'm gonna be a bachelor playboy my my whole life or some wild shit like that I know I'm you know eventually gonna start getting up there and so my thing is is like I just want to find something that that's my speed and I think that you know when it happens it 'll happen who was the't working about then? Because you used a little Lauryn Hill cadence on that X Factor. A lot of the songs, there's not like a bunch of songs on here that are like all about the same person.
Starting point is 00:24:55 I always draw from all of my exes anytime I talk about like toxic shit or whatever the case is, or I always draw from like just things that I went through, you know, with girls or whatever the case is or I always draw from like just things that I went through you know with girls or whatever the case is and so like it's no one specific that I'm talking about on that specific song Would you define yourself as toxic when it comes to relationships? Nah I'm not the toxic one I don't ever feel
Starting point is 00:25:18 That's what most toxic guys say You know what I feel like though? I feel like and all people who've been in a relationship can relate to this in some sort of way I feel like I have a I feel like, and all people who've been in a relationship can relate to this in some sort of way. I feel like I have a problem with trying to fix people. And then I end up in some toxic shit, like, for trying to fix this person. Like, you know what I'm saying? Or trying to be with a person that is like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:25:36 I know that they just don't get it because someone never really told them the right way. I'm one of those people. And then I realize, yo, I'm in some wild shit. Like, give me an example of how you would want to fix somebody, yo, I'm in some wild shit. Give me an example of how you would want to fix somebody. No, I just feel like sometimes when I meet people who don't have enough
Starting point is 00:25:53 love in their life or they're just lonely or super not confident. I hate when I meet a beautiful girl who's not confident. It makes me just want to be like, let me just take you out on the towel to just show you who you are. Like, you know what I'm saying? But then you wind up hurting them more because you take them out on the time.
Starting point is 00:26:10 They fall in love with the guy, but you're not ready to settle down. No, but you know what I think it is? I think in the process of me trying to give that extra arm of support and love or whatever it is, that a lot of times people are not ready for it and it's like the reaction to it because it's something that they never got sometimes is is like you know it's like a shock to them or something like that like you know what I'm saying because usually that stems from somewhere and if you can't work on that and someone's just
Starting point is 00:26:40 trying to say here this is what you deserve this is what you need but you still don't feel that because of whatever yeah there's no way you can accept that like i'm uh what was the word empath where you feel like what everybody like when i when i when i talk to people and this could just be regular people too like even if i see a bum on the street or if i see a homeless person on the street or something like that and they tell me yo um yo i'm really they've genuinely given me a story that's like and i just be like damn like i really feel for that person and i think that that'd be my problem in relationships is that sometimes i've i feel too deep into people's like past and i want to help them change they you know they outlook but it's
Starting point is 00:27:19 like that's some some things are just not of you that they're for you you know, other people to kind of get over themselves. You know what I'm saying? And for other people to go through themselves. Do you feel like you're underrated or you don't get the amount of love and respect that you should as an artist? I think people would say I'm underrated. I rate myself 10 out of 10. As you should. You know, and I think that at the end of the day as long as I feel that way
Starting point is 00:27:46 the realization of the world will come there was a time when you know I didn't think that I was rated enough to be on The Breakfast Club or I didn't think that I was popping enough to be here
Starting point is 00:27:58 you've been here like 4 times I'm sorry I'm saying there was a time before my first interview here you know what I'm saying I used to be watching this like yo when I get to that point I'll be popping enough to do X, Y, Z. But if I ever stuck on that thought, I would have never got here.
Starting point is 00:28:13 So just the thought of like being underrated to me is not a real thing to me. I want to denounce that away from me. You know what I'm saying? I'm not underrated. You know, my time is going to come when it comes. And that's just it. Gotcha. You know?
Starting point is 00:28:28 Now, when DaBaby did a song with you years ago, you know, people got mad at DaBaby for doing the song. Then he released a song, The Boogeyman, recently. And now, you know, everybody hates DaBaby again. What was your thoughts when he releases music and he talks about his life? People do it all the time. Everybody hates DaBaby?
Starting point is 00:28:44 Well, they're upset with him for a record he released. It ain't be messy today. I'm just asking some questions, that's all. I don't think everybody hates the baby. I think, again, that's the way that they paint things. And I think that you got to realize that there's people out here that spend money to push narratives into your face and make you feel a certain way. If I spend $10,000 on a post and I'm a major label or if I'm a major corporation and I spend $100,000 on a post, that's like, yo, this guy is wrong.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Over a period of time, you're going to be bringing while you keep seeing that shit. You're going to think, like you said, well, everybody hates this guy. Everybody doesn't hate that guy. Everybody doesn't hate whatever person they're saying. I feel like when you go outside into the world and you see how people react with you, there's a big difference between the internet and people. And like, there's a ratio thing that I always do, and I think that the world needs to do when you start thinking that everybody hates somebody. You need to look at the ratio of the numbers, right? A lot of artists, you'll get maybe, let's say, let's look at the artist like the baby, since you brought him up, right?
Starting point is 00:29:58 Yep. I see he'll post a picture, get, say, like, maybe 500,000 likes on something. And let's say it's one of those days where like you're saying someone's upset at him and a bunch of comments are in his comments you'll probably have like 3,000 6,000 comments maybe a thousand of those or 500 of those are like yo fuck you dah-dah-dah-dah-dah whatever they're saying but then when you look at the ratio it's like yo 500,000 people like this picture
Starting point is 00:30:25 right true 1,000 of them niggas is talking shit who really is greater that's why it's like I don't I can't go off of yo everyone's saying that no everyone's not saying that a couple of comments that you've seen are saying that gotcha go out out into the world. It's a big place. Now, aside from music, what are some other things that you are dipping your finances into? Man, I don't want
Starting point is 00:30:56 to fully say it, but I am definitely in the medical field now in a major way. And I think in a major way that's going to affect our culture and our community just for years upon years and generations after this.
Starting point is 00:31:15 How did that happen? When I was in this situation that I was in, I started looking at things like, you know, if they were to ever be able to take this from me. But just in case, you know what I'm saying? Just in case. Let me make sure, you know, I'm being smart.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I'm being an entrepreneur. And it woke up this energy in me that I've never experienced before I think one of the greatest things that I did you know we own our taboo with with Corey Todd and Shamara Todd from Jamaica I don't know if you guys ever been to taboo in Jamaica but it's like you know the biggest club in Jamaica there's three of them in the West Indies and then we got two of them in Miami so yeah for two in Miami. Oh, you were singing about Taboo on the album. Yeah, for sure. For sure. That's the hottest club in Miami. I'm not even saying that because I'm here.
Starting point is 00:32:08 I promise you. You know what I'm saying? You come all the time. You can drink for a little bit. You chill for a little bit. Yeah. And you know me. I'm not going anywhere doing it.
Starting point is 00:32:15 But the vibe is just so great. Best food in the city past 11 o'clock. There's nothing to eat out there after a certain period of time. So it's like you got to depend on which club is going to be right for you, we got the best food in the city, and there's two of them, so there's Taboo Miami and Taboo 826, and I own both of those with Corey and Shamara, so that's another thing that we were doing, it's just, it's a lot of little different, like, little business plays and stuff like that but ultimately you know i care about the music that's my first love and you know the most important thing to me so you know i'm always
Starting point is 00:32:50 on that oh also i'm doing this tv show too okay i've been shooting this tv show what's it about um it's actually based off this song that i had uh called pieces and it's like a story about a girl who got raped by her uncle and um she turns into the to like the street and like a and it's like a story about a girl who got raped by her uncle and She turns into this to like the street and like a lot It's just like a lot of different stories that kind of come into one as like different pieces of the story but I Just wanted to be able to do something that was dope and show off my acting skills Because you know I got tired of like not getting the roles for some of these big films like I would be like Audition if it's yeah, I was the biggest what's the roles for some of these big films. I would be auditioning.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Were you auditioning? Yeah. What's the biggest role you auditioned for? No, I was auditioning for big stuff. I almost got the role for King Richard, the Will Smith movie. What part? I was supposed to be the aggressor, the dude who got shot up at the corner store. They had me read for his parts.
Starting point is 00:33:46 And every time I've done a power, I was supposed to do Joey Badass' part. Okay. He does an amazing job in that role. No, he does. He does an incredible job. But that type of character, every time I've always read, I've always gotten called multiple times back. You might need to play a nice guy or something to change this whole narrative. I mean, art is art.
Starting point is 00:34:10 A cop, maybe. Art is art. You know what I'm saying? To go in there because it's like, you accomplished. No. Now you're going in front of people. And you're no longer Tory Lanez. I look at things that exact way.
Starting point is 00:34:24 I'm not Tory Lanez. look at things that exact way I'm not Tori Lanez I don't expect no special treatment but because of that I always had incredible self tapes like incredible they brought me back
Starting point is 00:34:34 for that part about three times don't get it twisted this one the power one yeah they brought me back they made me talk to the main lady
Starting point is 00:34:40 like you know what I'm saying but at the end of the day like I said I feel like my time will come you gonna see me on the screen and be like yo i ain't gonna lie he could have played that role too but my thing is like you know like i said like the time will come and and like everything that i never got i always just taught myself how to do like when they
Starting point is 00:34:59 told me oh you how i you i'm not singing on your song because you're not a big enough rapper i taught myself how to sing i sucked at rapper. I taught myself how to sing. I sucked at singing before. I taught myself how to sing. When a video guy wouldn't shoot my videos, I taught myself how to shoot. I taught myself how to edit. When a producer wouldn't produce my music, I taught myself how to produce on Fruity Loops. When they wouldn't record me, I bought Pro Tools and learned it myself.
Starting point is 00:35:20 So when they told me I'm not going to get the role for these Will Smith movies and these da-da-da-das, I'm going to do it myself so when they told me I'm not gonna get the role for these Will Smith movies and he's daughter that does I'm going to do it myself okay so now I'm on you know I'm on set playing five jobs being director editor and an actor but the hard work is gonna pay off because at the end of the day I believe in myself oh and I believe in anybody around me you know what I'm saying already filming this yes yes I got nine minutes of it. I'll show it to you when we get off the, you know what I'm saying? And would you want to sign a major label deal if somebody came at you? Or are you feeling like you're making too much?
Starting point is 00:35:52 I know you've said that, but have things changed? Somebody might come at you with some type of partnership? Because I remember they offered you a wild check a couple of years ago. They offered me a wild check. But y'all got to understand understand while everybody was saying uh was saying like yo he's who's gonna sign him and who's gonna yeah i gotta understand that year what was that 2000 that was 21 it was 20 or 21 2020 it's the end of 2020 i signed probably the biggest deal that year like as far as just distribution and on a distribution independent arm like shit that no one's seen my shit my shit was 18.7 million dollars that i signed for 22 months
Starting point is 00:36:30 of distribution not of major label obligations of distribution i don't need to play this game with y'all like you know what i'm saying i don't need to i don't need to play this game with y'all because i'm silently gonna do what i do you know what i'm saying and and and and i'm never like yo um let me break down a gem for y'all real quick go and for any artist they they really need to hear this off this show right look at this when i I was with Interscope, right, and I want artists to really pay attention to this. When I was with Interscope and we made music, let's say I didn't drop music for a solid year, a year and a half.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Tory Lanez solidly or whatever it is, made sure that his streams were about 3 million streams, like with all the music, 3 million streams a day. Off 1 million streams, an artist gets $5,000 to $6,000 every Friday or every other Friday, right? So that means that when I wasn't dropping shit and I was at home, some label was sitting on their ass collecting fifteen thousand dollars a day off of tori lane's music but that music if it was made by me then i would be sitting at home
Starting point is 00:37:54 scratching my ass fucking making fifteen thousand dollars a day if i'm popping and i'm making songs then it's i'm probably gonna do around like 7 million streams, 6 million streams a day, right? Just with all my music in general. Let's call it 5 million streams. Let's just say that. Just make it easy, right? That means that someone's making
Starting point is 00:38:16 $25,000 a day off of my music. So in four days, they made $100,000. like guys let's do the numbers guys like how how long are we gonna let this shit just rape us like it do you think though without in a scope you wouldn't be as um popular as you are because sometimes first of all most i want to let y'all know this i love in a scope for everything that they did for me because at the end of the day they are the people who take the chance but i want y'all know this. I love Interscope for everything that they did for me. Because at the end of the day, they are the people who take the chance. But I want y'all to know something right here, right? It's that that moment when a label comes to sign you, that you're usually really popping.
Starting point is 00:38:57 You're popping enough that people are looking at you and they're probably starting to kind of pay you for things. And they get you at that point. And usually artists sign for four to five albums. And when you sign for those four to five albums, by the third album, we don't want to really hear you no more because we heard everything that you got to give. It's very rare for artists to be able to get out of that situation in the first place. But then to get out of the situation and still be relevant enough to go independent you're never going to have it so all your best songs are made during that period of time all of the our favorite artists best songs are made during like unless you're like you know the drakes and the people who really went on longer but like a lot of our favorite artists
Starting point is 00:39:39 who didn't like go far far far far but they're like you know i just love that album or i love that artist their best songs came out in the majority of time that they were with the label so all that money of all that creative stuff that you're doing it just went straight to a label now at that point when you're about to sign you're popping enough to just keep going it's just you just got to learn how to use everything that the label uses the label doesn't hire people that they employ or whatever the case is. They outsource people that you can employ. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:11 And once you learn that, like the world is yours. But I guess some people might be in financial situations where they're not. But like you said, if you're popping enough, then you should have money coming in. You're in a financial situation because you're not independent. Right. All of that money. It doesn't matter. Now, when I break it down and I'm saying, yo, a million plays a day is this much money,
Starting point is 00:40:36 that doesn't mean that Johnny over there from the Bronx is going to make that. Maybe he might get 50,000 plays, but that's going to equivalent to whatever it equivalents to, and he's going to get that every Friday. You know what I'm saying? It's going to come to his pocket every Friday. It's going to land in his bank account faithfully like a job. And all Johnny from the Bronx has to do is keep dropping music, and it's going to keep stacking. So why would you not save your best songs and your best stuff
Starting point is 00:40:58 for that moment for yourself? In that moment, you're going to make all that money. It's just that artists don't understand how much money there is out here. And that's why it's like you know i've always been one to to to kind of take those steps for people like you know um it's times that i can't do certain things and i'm not able to do certain things and i got to call on people that you know will help me do certain things and help certain things shout out to my uncle speedy too you know i'm saying that's my dog he's helped me through a lot of this and just this independent route and taking it there but like you know anything that
Starting point is 00:41:27 you can't do you can learn how to do and if there is somebody who can help you do it you can outsource them and pay them the same money that the label is paying you know it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't it's not really expensive and then think about it you're an artist this is for artists signed to the label you're an artist you're already signed to the label you're going you're doing shows you're getting money start looking at your money and realizing like fuck me buying this chain right now if i take this hundred thousand dollars and i put this into this department this department this department and find out who these niggas are hiring the guy in the digital department doesn't cost 20 grand he costs three thousand dollars to do whatever it is that he's talking about.
Starting point is 00:42:05 The guy on TV costs $7,000. The guy, it doesn't, you know, it's, it's, it's things you can put your money into that's going to really change your life. And as an artist, you got the money to do it. So do it. Sorry for what? Are you good at apologizing? If I have to. Yeah. And I know when I, when I need to apologize, I'm not a dickhead. I'm not somebody who, you know, can't apologize or, like, doesn't know when he's wrong. Like, you know, I know when I be wrong. And when I'm wrong, I can take up for it, for sure. And I got to ask this. How's your hair holding up?
Starting point is 00:42:35 I was going to say, you got to apologize to our camera guy. You threatened to say that last time we met. I do apologize to you. You know what I'm saying? He got the crazy one. Like, yo. Because I was so sincere when I was telling him. Like, yo, because I was so sincere when I was telling him,
Starting point is 00:42:46 like, yo, you come over that camera. Nah, but all up. Nah, but it's good. I'm actually, you know what's crazy, Angela? Like, I'm trying something brand new right now
Starting point is 00:42:57 and it's not into full form for like fermentation, but... It's not in full form yet. But, for a long time, guys, right? We've always been like, yo, Tori, the guy, da-da-da-da. Right. Hey, the guy with the hair and the da-da-da-da.
Starting point is 00:43:11 For a long time, I've been dealing with these things. But I've been dealing with them for a reason. Because me, I am going to be what is like the messiah of black people and colored people getting their hair back. So is this the medical thing you're working on? Just feel me for a second, bro. Can y'all feel me? But you're not ready to take that off. I'm not in a good hair day right now.
Starting point is 00:43:33 I still need to brush my hair. I woke up and just came here. But look, check this out. I'm going to grow my hair, right? I promise you. But I'm doing it with a product that I've created. Like, you know what I'm saying? I went went I talked to the African ladies the Haitian ladies African ladies everything and I and I and I've learned that all of the things
Starting point is 00:43:53 for your hair that you need like naturally for your hair to grow are in the earth all right like you know what I'm saying and it's really just a concoction that you create in order for you know for an elixir for your hair or for things that need to grow I promise y'all I don't know the name for it yet the game change but I promise you guys I'm coming back with the with it with the with the cream in this in the stuff that's gonna make your hair come back and it's gonna be you're gonna know it's authentic cuz y'all seen y'all seen the patch head y'all seen this shit that I had to go through you feel me everything that'd be good for our edges too i know you like the edge of
Starting point is 00:44:28 everything that's the whole thing you gotta work for charlamagne i'll believe it it's gonna work for charlamagne and that's that's insane because he's tried everything yeah he tried everything he got like the robocop i got him like the george i got him okay i got him and you know what else is crazy that that's another thing i wanted to say on the medical side um The doctor that did my hair originally and showed me, like, you know, yo, you can do hair restoration and stuff like that, I'm actually going to team up with him, and we're going to bring hair restoration down to Miami to the medical stuff that I was telling you about.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Okay. So, yeah, so I'll be, like, one of the first hip-hop artists to bring hair restoration, like, in real real reality, like the machines and the doctors, and actually, yeah, like help people really get their edges back without their cream and stuff like that. You know what I mean? The cream will be secondary. This is a game changer for a lot of you guys out here.
Starting point is 00:45:16 I'm trying to tell you. I'm trying to tell you. It's like a BBL for men. Shut up, man. Sorry for what is out tomorrow. What you want to play? What you want to get into? I don't even know. Just play whatever to play? What you want to get into? I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Just play whatever you want. What you want to get into? Whatever you want. Play the A Boogie one. The one bro called with A Boogie. Okay, well, let's get into it right now. It's Tory Lanez. We appreciate you for joining us.
Starting point is 00:45:36 The album's out tomorrow. Thank you, bro. All love. Thank y'all. And it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own?
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