The Breakfast Club - Tyrese Interview

Episode Date: July 21, 2015

Tyrese Discusses His Final Album, Wanting His Ex Back and Much More With The Breakfast Club Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for pri...vacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:12 Tyrese. Why not? Let's get right into it. You got a number one country, I mean the number one album, but this is your last album. Why? Well, y'all know I went through a real nasty public and private custody situation fighting for more custody of my baby. So I landed 50-50 joining in legal custody. Shout out to all the fathers out there still determined to get that time in.
Starting point is 00:03:41 And so you can't have that much custody and then say, I'll be home in six months. I got to go chase a music career. So, you know, pickups and drop-offs is real for me. Bedtime stories and helping her with her homework, that's all real for me. So I had to, I got to do what I got to do. I love music. I'm never going to stop doing music as a whole because it's my first love,
Starting point is 00:03:59 but it's definitely my last album. It's not a publicity stunt to get everybody excited, like, go run Grand Tire's last album. It's the last time you're going to get it. No, it's not. This is it for real. This is definitely my last album. It's not a publicity stunt to get everybody excited, like go run Grand Tire's last album, it's the last time you gonna get it. No, it's not. This is it for real. This is it. It took me three and a half years to do this album.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Like emotionally it wiped me out. Like I'm fighting for more custody. I was in a relationship for five years on the low and Living together and everything. Envy knows, you know what I mean? Envy's wife used to talk to my girl. They were cool. And it ended, though.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Yeah. So can your wife still talk to her? Are they still friends? Or does that friendship end? My wife's loyalty is to Tyrese. Okay. And married women shouldn't talk to single women. This is true.
Starting point is 00:04:41 That conversation can get a little... So why are you still there? Well, that's awkward, though, because if they formed a friendship, shouldn't she still be able to talk to her? My wife's loyalty is to Tyrese. Okay, let's move on. So five years, you know, I did some things that I was ashamed of. You know, nobody, we're all a work in progress. And so that's where the inspiration behind the song Shame came from.
Starting point is 00:05:05 It's not for perfect people. It's not for people that think they're so far up the spiritual ladder they don't make mistakes. It's a song about being honest and transparent and vulnerable. So for it to be number two on Billboard right now in only six weeks, it's just a confirmation that when you do things from your heart, it affects hearts. And it is
Starting point is 00:05:25 a video actually that really matters because i feel like a lot of videos nowadays aren't really so important but i think it really helps with the song as well the visual that went along with it did you pay denzel no denzel did it for the love denzel believe in this it's actually a short film so that's 25 minutes long and denzel is definitely on board i mean i got phone calls about edits and you know it's like he's very involved he's like yo keep sending me the links with the updated scenes and i think you should is that i mean them calls was very uncomfortable because you don't want to disappoint d you know i'm saying but did you call him or he called you how that works yeah i called him and also the casting person named
Starting point is 00:06:05 robbie reed who's did malcolm x with him and a bunch of other movies got denzel on board as well so then that must be in between movies he's doing videos well it's a movie it's a short film you know i mean so the the condensed version of the shame video is about six and a half minutes long but the short film in itself is 25 minutes long. Starring myself and Jennifer Hudson, directed by Paul Hunter. I'm not gonna lie, when they said, when I found out that you had the number one album in the country, I said, boy, they letting the wrong person be number
Starting point is 00:06:33 one independent. No, that's not right. That's the last person you want to be number one. No, and you should be happy, man. I am happy. I'm keeping dark skin on, baby. I'm happy, but I'm like, this nigga about to show his ass now. You know, we darker than this mic, man. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to stay on. I'm happy, but I'm like, this is about to show his ass now. You know, we darker than this mic, man. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to stay on.
Starting point is 00:06:48 We trying to take Envy out. And Charlamagne now. I'm back, baby. You are getting brighter and brighter every time I see you. But we'll talk about that later. I was like, there's Envy. I mean, Charlamagne.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Now, you caught some flack because you used the dead homeless woman to promote. Dead homeless. Was she dead? She was not dead. Why did you call her dead homeless? What is the video? What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:07:13 When Tyrese was like, y'all sleeping on R&B and the homeless lady just laid down. She was sleeping. She was not dead. She was not dead. But people were upset about that. No, they were mad at the homeless. Listen, let me just say this. I apologize for what seems like it was insensitive and going too far. I didn't really think about that before I did it.
Starting point is 00:07:32 You know what I mean? I just was trying to make a point. And the point is, right now, the state of R&B is dead. Most R&B singers are not conscious of it, but a lot of us are insecure. And we feel like our songs don't get it, but a lot of us are insecure. And we feel like our songs don't get attention, don't get no love on radio, don't have any fans buying it anymore unless we got 15 rappers on it. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:07:56 The state of R&B is insecure. So I just want to apologize to everybody. I don't have 15 rappers on my album. For this Black Rose album to be number one in 15 countries and it's straight r&b period it's sending the right message it's making a statement that the fans are still out here they want to support they want to show up you know what i mean like for me in my mind it was never marvin gaye featuring curtis blow it was never luther vandross featuring Run DMC. It was never Donny Hathaway featuring Sugar Hill Gang. It was pure R&B soul. No gimmicks.
Starting point is 00:08:31 I ain't name dropping. Produced by Pharrell. Produced by, listen, it's pure R&B, period. So for it to be number one on R&B charts and the top 200 with my album, it's a confirmation that R&B is turning that corner. I think you should have just caught yourself buying the lady something to eat.
Starting point is 00:08:50 If you just put it on camera, buying the homeless lady something to eat, Well, no, here's the thing. I was just making a statement. I didn't know she was homeless. She just looked like she was taking a nap. She was passed out. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:09:00 Like, now people are like, oh, you're taking advantage. The woman is homeless. I didn't know she was homeless. It was supposed to be like a metaphor. It was a shaded area. There was other people sleeping in the area. It was not necessarily a homeless area.
Starting point is 00:09:12 And I was like, she's taking a nap. So guess what? I want to make a point. I feel like people are sleeping on R&B. That was the only point. It wasn't about taking advantage of nothing. That's not what I do. Absolutely. So I apologize for anybody that It wasn't about taking advantage of nothing. That's not what I do. So I
Starting point is 00:09:26 apologize for anybody that I made feel a certain kind of way because of that moment. And if I ran into the woman, I put a couple hundred dollars under. But if there's anybody else that, you know, want to come at me about it, just come see me in the streets, homie. I'm just playing.
Starting point is 00:09:48 You see my nose flare Come see me Now you're on a train And you're promoting The album on a train Why'd you do that What was the idea behind that Okay so let me just tell you What really happened
Starting point is 00:09:56 I've never told nobody Okay I was running late To a live hit To do a radio interview I mean TV interview It was actually with Roxy From you know know, used to be on 106. She on HLN.
Starting point is 00:10:08 And I had a live hit that I couldn't miss. So the driver said, we're going to get there about an hour and 20 minutes with this traffic. Y'all know New York traffic. I said, yo, we got to go take the train. So we ended up taking three trains. We went through Brooklyn. We did what we had to do.
Starting point is 00:10:23 And that's when the moment happened. There you go. See, and that's why I tell Envy to take the train all the time because it's way faster than driving to the subway. Sometimes, yeah. Sometimes I have to, though, every once in a while. But then Brandy tried to take the train. Envy's not getting out of that race.
Starting point is 00:10:35 No, I had to walk him. It's blue. He wants people to see what's happening in these streets. I had to walk him down to the subway and be like, this is the train you have to get on. And then he called me when it was time to come back here and I had to give him explicit directions on how to get back. En then he called me when it was time to come back here and I had to give him explicit directions on how to get back. And Rihanna, I know how to
Starting point is 00:10:48 ride the train in New York. I've known the train in like 15 years. I take the train all the time. I know how to ride the train with no help. You need help and you live here? I need help. I have to walk him down. He's got the Wraith. He's got no tents on his windows. No, no, no. See me. This is that radio money. It's happening in these streets. Now Brandy tried to do the same
Starting point is 00:11:04 thing. You inspired Brandy to get to do the same you inspired brandy To get on the train you inspired brandy it didn't work out to a fancy brandy video no No, well got on the video. She's saying but nobody knew who she was she saying she was like I can't get one fan not one fan. You know how you caused the commotion and you know That's all good Haven't seen it man, but you know i mean listen we all love riding the train that's the homie man somebody gave us some advice was like she should sing a little better and everything she said she's a singer the homeless lady that you gave the hundred dollars
Starting point is 00:11:35 to was on the train and gave her some advice on how to sing that no no no hey man well if that dude whoever said that if they knew that that Brandy, they would give her some different advice. Trust me, because she is one of the greatest to ever do it. Absolutely. And she's on the Black Rose album, and we have a song called The Rest of Our Lives. So shout out to Brandy. Let them talk, baby.
Starting point is 00:11:56 It's all good. We know what's happening in these R&B streets. What's that about, The Rest of Our Lives? The Rest of Our Lives? Well, you know, we said, you know what? Let's do a song that's for the first dance at a wedding. And so it's a wedding song. Oh, that's nice.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I love wedding songs. Yeah. A song that you can be like, that's going to be playing at my wedding. Yeah, absolutely. What's the significance of the title, Black Rose? Because it sounds kind of dark. Well, a rose that grew through concrete. Tupac.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Tupac. So I said, I'm a black rose that grew through concrete. Tupac. Tupac. So I said, I'm a black rose that grew through concrete. South Central LA, Watts. Lived in Watts for 19 years. I was born in Watts. So I just wanted to,
Starting point is 00:12:35 you know, I was inspired by that poem that Pac wrote. So it's transparent, it's honest, it's vulnerable. It's my best, it's my last.
Starting point is 00:12:45 And it's one of them albums where you can press play from top to bottom and not skip one joint. And that's what I'm proud of. So shout out to everybody around the world. It's number one in 13 countries. Congrats. It's my first number one R&B album on Billboard. It's number one on the top 200 i'm just like we're celebrating because instead of just mentioning statistics it's a confirmation that they say r&b fans are dead they say nobody
Starting point is 00:13:14 sells r&b albums anymore this whole time i've been doing interviews as you can imagine it's like okay you got an r&b app you're doing an. What could I say that can make people do what they don't do anymore, which is buy a full R&B album that doesn't have 15 rappers on it? No antics, no perks. I'm not twerking. I ain't dropping. I don't know nobody named Nay Nay. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:13:39 But it comes from a different place. You don't know a Nay Nay. You from what? I don't know nobody named Nay Nay. But it comes from a different place. See, most artists have to conform to the industry because they got to pay their bills. You're coming from a place of doing it from the heart.
Starting point is 00:13:50 You got money to pay your bills, so you can... You got a Benihana in your backyard. Exactly, and a Starbucks. But... Eddie just finished a hookah lounge, by the way. Yeah, stay out of my backyard, man. Eddie has a Carmine's with a brick oven pizza. Oh, my goodness. All I'm saying is... All I'm saying is... lounge by the way yeah stay on my back yeah and he has a car mines with the brick oven pizza oh my
Starting point is 00:14:05 goodness all i'm saying is all i'm saying is r&b singers that are specifically in r&b we've had to convert into doing house and techno we've had to have our albums compromise with a bunch of rappers on it just to get any kind of attention and love the fact that this album is winning and it's just r&b i feel like it's sending the right statement i don't want to be number one just for me i'm number one i'm cool the fact that it's number one the industry is like robots they're gonna want to fall in line and and it becomes the trend this oh this is what we're doing now so all of the twerking and dropping is going to be on pause, and the actual talented people that's been on the shelves,
Starting point is 00:14:51 they're going to finally have their albums to see the light of day. I'm talking about past favorite R&B singers, R&B singers that are current, and the ones that have yet to be discovered. And then for me, I'm sending this as a message to radio. I had a song called Stay. Envy knows all about it. Classic record.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Right? Stay was number one for 11 weeks on Billboard. Sam Smith had a song called Stay. Sam Smith's song had a full choir on it. Sam Smith's record was played on all formats of radio. Top 40, rhythmic, crossover. He's got an urban, right? Now, Sam Smith ain't stepped foot into any of these urban radio stations,
Starting point is 00:15:34 but yet urban radio is going all out supporting it. If you want a radio spin, you got to do so much radio promo is out of control. Meet and greets, interviews, you got to call in, you got to do something. Now, I'm not attacking Sam Smith. I'm not competitive. This is not ego, no nothing. I'm talking about facts because you talking about money,
Starting point is 00:15:54 now I can tell my truth. There you go. I ain't got to be politically correct. I think right now it's time to be more fair. If we showing love on urban radio to Robin Thicke, Justin Timberlake, and Sam Smith, who's singing R&B. So and I'm a fan that it needs to work on both sides.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Don't tell me I'm number one on R&B and urban AC and urban mainstream. But yet I'm number one for 11 weeks. But yet top 40 rhythmic and crossover stations ain't playing my music. We showing love on both sides. You got to show love on both sides. The point I'm making is don't say because you're black that only black people supposed to support you.
Starting point is 00:16:30 My music has no limits. It has no sexual preference. It has no racial barriers. So if they're singing R&B soul and you're being supported on urban radio, I believe it should go both ways. I agree.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Don't limit my shit. Right. Because my movies ain't limited you can't say that only black people know me and support my music because that's not true you can't say that if you go to a stevie wonder concert it's only black people in the audience because he's black like there's there's a lot of different forms of racism and guess what y'all here's this is what i want to say to pop radio. Go ahead. I'm not going to convert.
Starting point is 00:17:09 There's no house and techno version of shame coming. I'm not going to switch it up. I'm not going to sing shame with auto-tune in my voice just for radio spin. But I guarantee you if I show up, the fans are going to be there. They will be excited. Period. So if Stay
Starting point is 00:17:26 by Sam Smith has a full choir on it, if I sung that version of Stay, my joint would have been locked into Urban Radio and I'd have probably been with Yolanda Adams on the Gospel Channel. Spread love. Don't forget WBLS. You definitely would have got that urban.
Starting point is 00:17:43 I'm just saying, man, at the end of the day i i'm i'm putting this on blast and guess what i don't have a racist bone in my body i'm not a homophobe i ain't got no issues i'm not competitive i just want music to have an opportunity to reach his maximum audience right don't limit me because of my skin don't limit me because of what what. Don't limit me because of what form of radio is supporting him first. Listen, they may start in pop and rhythmic radio, but if urban radio recognize that they sing an R&B soul, we spread love. We don't say, oh, that's a white person?
Starting point is 00:18:16 Let the white station support them. And they shouldn't be happening on the other side. I often wonder if the pop program directors are paying attention the way the urban program directors do. Because urban program directors tend to be more aware of all the music that's out there. I don't know if pop program directors are. Bro, they do, man. They do. They know. Bro, it's no way that
Starting point is 00:18:34 Stay was number one for 11 weeks. Right now, my song Shame is number two on Billboard. It's no way they don't see that. Featuring Jennifer Hudson? You can't tell me that only black people love Jennifer Hudson. Stop playing with me. Soon as Obama come up with any event, Jennifer is there.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Soon as the Oscars do any awards show, Jennifer is there. You telling me only black people at the Oscars? Man, I'm grown. Stop playing with me. Especially being, I like what you said about how they make black artists jump through hoops. Oh my God. Man, can I get a radio span? What do you want me to do?
Starting point is 00:19:07 We're vulnerable. Because without radio, our voices aren't heard. So at the end of the day, I ain't trying to start no shit. I'm just putting it out there. Those days is over for me. Shane is number two on Billboard, and I'm asking, what's my man name? Come on, give me the name. Ryan Seacrest.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Ryan Seacrest in the morning. It's your man, Ryan Seacrest. We about to go into Tyrese Shame featuring Jennifer Hudson. Can I hear that at least one time? Or do you need Robin Thicke to sing my song in order for you to play it? Damn it, man. Come on, man. All I'm saying is, this is my last
Starting point is 00:19:46 round. This is my last album. I don't want shame that's being heavily supported by urban AC and urban mainstream radio to be limited to a black man singing to only black people. Them days is over, man. Maybe you should put Vin Diesel on the record.
Starting point is 00:20:01 I got fans named Becky. Put Vin Diesel on the record. Just have him talk on it. Huh? Just have Vin Diesel talk on the beginning. You've been doing it 20 years, man, and you're still putting out amazing records. This shouldn't be the last album. I'm going to tell you that. But he didn't say that he's not going to do any more music.
Starting point is 00:20:17 He's not saying he's not doing any music. He's just not putting out albums, right? It's been 20 years since he did the Coca-Cola on the bus, man, and he's still putting out records. I got this. There's a lot of people out there that Coca-Cola on the bus, man. And he's still putting out records. I got this. There's a lot of people out there that would die to make the records that you have. And die to be in your position right now. And you're saying this is my last album. Well, you know what?
Starting point is 00:20:34 Listen, you're a dad. You got a kid? Absolutely. Okay, so you're a dad. We still waiting on the homie to go ahead and shoot the club up. We still waiting on you to stop playing in these streets. The good thing is about when you're hosting, you know, you always stay far away from this. So you can always be pregnant and be sick.
Starting point is 00:20:53 We'll talk about that later. Talk about that later. Let me know. I'm having baby mama auditions next week. Baby mama auditions. You know what I'm saying? You know, you can get me right. That's how you celebrate with the number one album?
Starting point is 00:21:03 I got number one album. I'm going to have me another baby. That's it. Baby, I'm going to audition. I feel like, listen, man, I just want this album and the success around this album to make a statement. And I can't say it enough. Urban or AC Radio, y'all have helped us to feed our families, pay our bills. You were able to tour.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Like, at the end of the day without radio our music will never have an audience it will never have no reach i know social media is powerful and everybody's moving but we're vulnerable man every spin counts everything counts so oh i mean bro i'm off an hour and a half of sleep every day yesterday i had an in-store at FYE, and they called the ambulance. Somebody passed out? I almost did. In the store. I needed some oxygen.
Starting point is 00:21:52 I didn't stop. I needed a quick 30-minute break. I was there for an hour and a half of sleep. I'm drinking five hours and espresso coffee. I had to sit down for a minute. I'm sitting there, and the room started spinning. I'm like, holy shit, this ain't going to, right? I needed a minute.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Fully committed to the process. I wasn't going to let the fans down. I'm like, look, I didn't pass out, and I'm definitely not going out there to get in the ambulance and make a scene. But that's what it is. You can't be working this hard and saying that you're doing all this
Starting point is 00:22:25 as an urban artist catering to the needs of urban right i'm trying to do what i gotta do to to re-spark r&b like i got my cape on baby i'm trying to i'm trying to i'm trying to fly but now let me ask you a question you you do records like stay and then you do records like shame and you preach positivity and you preach being a great man and great relationships but then you f up and you're never he admits that he's human we have not not human about Tyrese can't do that you can't be a power you saying that to me yes are you saying that to me he's much blacker than me right now put this in front of. Put this in front of your face. Because with Tyrese,
Starting point is 00:23:07 with Tyrese, let's talk about it. You speak positivity. I love it. A lot of people look up to you as positivity. I was one that did, and I still do. He used to.
Starting point is 00:23:16 But then it caused shame. But then when I hear you mess up, I'm like, how? You tell me, be good, be better. You tell the world. I ain't never heard Tyrese say he was perfect. I'm not perfect.
Starting point is 00:23:24 And one of the best things you can do is mess up and own up to the fact that you messed up. How do you avoid all these leg muscles out here? When the cleavage is right and you sitting up trying to keep your focus, how do you do it? How do you do it? I'm active.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Listen, listen, let me just explain something. It's real out here. Listen, listen. I sing to that because I want that. I don't play on both sides. I'm right here. Right. So at the end of the day, I'm trying my best every day where a work in progress.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Now, guess what? When a relationships ends sometime, it's not always about cheating. Sometimes that woman is in a relationship and she's mentally and spiritually, emotionally bored because her man don't know how to intrigue her. she's like running around desperate just to have a conversation so my man ain't cheating but if if if it's gonna stop me from being this bored go get something else just come on and talk about it talk to me it's all kind of reasons that relationships end and you could find yourself saying i'm ashamed of that i'm ashamed that i was playing video games wearing cartoon characters on my backpack wearing peppermint socks caught up in
Starting point is 00:24:30 cars money and materialistic things and my wife was at home suffering and i didn't even know it that's real you could leave your relationship and be ashamed of that so at the end of the day there's all kind and guess what let's put this out there. That every time a relationship ends, it's not always the man. There's plenty of women out here doing that. They're ashamed. I had nothing to do with them. Ten relationships that you was in before we got in a relationship. You didn't brought all of them heartbreaks, insecurities, issues, mental, emotional and physical abuse into this brand new relationship.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Now I'm on the receiving end of all of this. The 10 dudes and did to you. So you should be ashamed of yourself. Don't put it on me. Did I ask you a question? You answered my question. But you have broken a lot of hearts, as you said yourself. I have.
Starting point is 00:25:16 I'm not proud of it. When will you break your last heart? Since this is your last album, you should break one last heart. Charlamagne. I'm sure I'm so sure if I were to talk to your wife right now she'll tell me I keep telling him to put the seat down on the toilet here on this I keep telling
Starting point is 00:25:35 him when he take his last dribble pause don't have it on the top of the seat do it on the bottom of the seat I'm telling you it's like listen man here's the beautiful thing about being a man and a woman. We're all a work in progress. Nobody's perfect. And this is what I'm going to talk about.
Starting point is 00:25:52 You kind of sounded like Caitlyn Jenner just a little bit. Just the way you spaced it. You was like, that's the thing about being a man and a woman. Oh, really? You were just a little bit, Tyree. That's what you're doing? Shut up, man. Really? I swear to God. Is this about ratings right now? He's about, really? You just a little bit, Tyrese. Shut up. That's what you're doing? Shut up, man. Really?
Starting point is 00:26:05 I swear to God. Is this about ratings right now? He's about, really? The headline is about to say Tyrese and Preston. It's a man and a woman right now. I'm not doing this. I swear to God. I'm about to walk up out this fucking place.
Starting point is 00:26:18 I'm not doing this. So anyway, as a man and a woman in the presence of, thank you. There you go. Appreciate it. Sometimes you realize that you're not perfect. We and a woman in the presence of, thank you. Appreciate it. Sometimes you realize that you're not perfect. We're a work in progress. My album is not for perfect people.
Starting point is 00:26:35 I'm going into honest topics. I'm singing from the heart. I'm vulnerable. I'm honest. And here's the thing. It's not about album sales. It's not about being number one and I'm this and I'm that. That's for people in the industry to stroke that ego. All of the success around this Black Rose album is to benefit the state of R&B.
Starting point is 00:26:52 It's to highlight something that seems to be in the backseat. Right now, I'm saying this to the Grammys. I want to win this year. And I don't want to win just because I want to give a speech. I want to win because this is a real R&B album that deserves the Grammy. And I don't want to be in the pre-telecast. I don't want to give out my award before the actual Grammy start. I don't want to be on billboards as rappers and R&B singers promoting the Grammys.
Starting point is 00:27:21 And then when you show up, they're giving trophies to everybody that wasn't on the billboards straight up and down don't have all of us creating that momentum for people to tune in and then you're giving our trophies there but I think Steve Stiles said that like at the end of the day it's time to to re-spark real interest and have the energy to go in the right direction. And I'm not talking about black. I'm just saying in general, let's be more fair. Let's be real. Like I've already talked about it, but come on, man. I don't limit me.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Don't limit my reach. Don't limit my fan base. Don't stop people from falling in love with these songs. And don't make me think that because I'm not singing house and techno and I'm not wearing tight and techno and I'm not wearing tight ass pants and trying to be a crossover act specifically
Starting point is 00:28:09 that I can't have my fans all across the board hearing my music. Like, come on, man. Them days is over. Absolutely. You want to just change subjects a little bit.
Starting point is 00:28:19 You want Empire Season 2 coming up, they said. Yes, I'm coming to get my bottom lip back. Tired of all these dudes kissing on Taraji. I'm not having it. Uh-oh it oh is it gonna be a regular role or we'll see i'm we'll see i definitely got i'm not i won't be visiting i'm not just gonna come and do a scene or two and get up out of there you were supposed to be on the first season i was i was in dealing with my custody situation you know shout
Starting point is 00:28:45 out to lee daniels danny strong taraji you know all of the success that they have i'm not one of them people that's jumping on the empire train they really wanted me to be on season one i just couldn't do it fighting for my baby and uh i've also turned down like nine movies fighting for my daughter you know and that's what it is when you're a dad and you committed to what's happening sometime projects that got big checks attached you can't do it is she enjoying going on press runs with you and everything because i see you have her with you all the time when you're out and about oh yeah you enjoy that my daughter loves it she's always my daughter is my biggest fan and i'm hers i I mean, listen, I just got, I just got the best video ever, man.
Starting point is 00:29:25 And, um, I haven't even showed it to my daughter yet. She just turned eight. And, um, I just got the best video ever from Selena Gomez. Look at this.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Oh, she's going to be so hype. My daughter is the biggest Selena Gomez fan of all time. My daughter be wanting to watch her documentaries. There's only so many women out here that's keeping it classy and clean that your little girl could actually look up to. I'm telling you, if she hasn't seen this video yet, she's going to freak out. What you just sent Selena a text like, hey, man, send my daughter a video. Listen, I need you to.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Because my daughter's doing well in school you know what I mean she just graduated she's in first grade now and she needs that positive reinforcement so I'm like look say something about her
Starting point is 00:30:13 being in school being focused in your video don't just send me a birthday shout so if the video had kept going she's going in
Starting point is 00:30:20 love Selena now I need you to get your record label what was it Voltron right Voltron Records. So, V Bozeman. Yes. That's Timbaland's artist? Your artist?
Starting point is 00:30:30 That's Timbaland's artist. And I've been working with V to help her to finish her first solo album. Gotcha. So, we both from wide South Central LA and I just, you know, I think she's a sweet, beautiful. She's dope. Yeah, I love her, man. She's sweet. I saw you at the BET Awards,
Starting point is 00:30:45 and you're the first ever mayor of the BET Awards. How did that happen? You know, Stephen Hill and my man. Oh, man. We got to edit this part. Hold on, hold on. Damn it. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:00 My man Stephen Hill, BET, Deborah Lee, as well as Paxton Baker, asked me to be the mayor of the overall BET experience. And I was just honored. You know, I'm from L.A. And it was five days of me just hosting and just making sure that everything was smooth. Now, I didn't know that they was going to have me doing that much work. Yeah, that was a lot of work.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I was like, poor Tyrese out here. He got to do all this stuff. I mean, we talking about emails, late night conference calls. Certain people were supposed to perform and fell out. And we trying to find a replacement. I didn't know I actually had to work. I thought they was just going to use me on the red carpet and chill out. I thought I was going to be out there in them streets getting active.
Starting point is 00:31:41 And then I saw you and Janelle Monae had a run in after. Yeah, she's so damn fine. Yeah. You like all my women, man. Janelle Monae had a run in after she's so damn fine yeah you like all my women man Janelle Monae Patti LaBelle saw you slow dance with Patti LaBelle
Starting point is 00:31:49 I've been wanting to suck a fart out of Patti LaBelle but Janelle Monae stop saying that because Patti LaBelle's son called him out Patti LaBelle's son
Starting point is 00:31:56 checked me when I was working for you he was not having that I'm like bro you can't be up mad at me because your mom's a milk but Janelle is the prettiest girl in the game
Starting point is 00:32:04 she is without question yeah i love janelle i think uh everybody knows that by now when you shot your shot bro i did i gave it my best it was it was a classic lebron uh lob in the air and i did you get it in listen you know what i love the way she reacted she put up the tweet when i seen her i was i got caught in the back of the BET radio room and I ran into her and she was smiling. She said, I love you and I'm just so grateful. And it was like, wow, all of my friends were calling me.
Starting point is 00:32:33 That was really, really beautiful. She handled it. It was classy. I wasn't shocked. You get watched on there and be like, but yeah, all that's cool. Yeah, yeah, that's nice. So what's happening?
Starting point is 00:32:41 But seriously. What's good? What's good? I put this cologne on for you. That's everything, though. You know what? I did apologize to her because it may have created a bunch of unwanted attention. But I meant every word I said.
Starting point is 00:32:55 I think today is a bunch of pride and ego that stops a man from expressing himself because he doesn't want to look thirsty. He don't want to look like he's sweating and jogging. You know, people are quick to diminish you trying to just give somebody love. I ain't getting caught up in that. I'm grown. Listen, my voice is deep. You give me 12 days, I'll have a full beard. I'm not out here trying to drop,
Starting point is 00:33:18 twerk, keep up with nobody. I don't know nobody named Nay Nay. I'm grown and I like it. I like being grown. Okay, so if you and Reverend, you and Reverend got your show coming on on. Charlamagne got a full beard. Ain't nothing wrong with that. He does?
Starting point is 00:33:31 Be grown. Listen, you and Reverend got the show. It's coming on on, right? The talk show, right? Yes. So would you give people advice that, yes, shoot your shot on social media if you like a girl? Listen, I would say in general, don't let your pride and ego in this he thirsty i am thirsty i want that i need oh my gosh if i want that i'm gonna go for it if i see yes i am thirsty come on live up to the sprite can okay listen if you want that go get that don't
Starting point is 00:34:01 let your husband walk by you because you got a job and you do i'm i'm independent i don't need you i don't want you i could do but you can nobody don't independence your way into loneliness period and it doesn't mean because you're alone you're lonely but there's a lot of women out here that become successful start getting money start doing a thing and they use that as a weapon towards a man that may not have as much. That man may not have as much as you because you you're successful and you're doing your thing. But nobody wants to be alone and stop tearing the men down. You can you can have a conversation with that man and he becomes the next successful entrepreneur. Everything on the ego
Starting point is 00:34:42 level is just whack. One thing I love about Envy, straight up and down, and we ain't gonna go into that again, but this man made it really clear that I made some mistakes, but I know who that woman is. I know what this family is, and I love
Starting point is 00:35:00 getting money. I love living and driving, but I am miserable, and I am frustrated with the idea that something that but i am miserable and i am frustrated with the idea that something that i may have did and said might lose my wife right now that's right that's how you fight to make love work and i think right now when it come to pride and ego that's the number one relationship killer okay i don't need you i'm cool i'm getting money i hit you getting money but you miserable as a mother. Okay? Woman, you want to go home to a poodle and a rabbit in your
Starting point is 00:35:29 drawer, helping you to go to sleep every night? You replacing a man with a machine, a vibrator? Stop playing, man. There's a vibrator called a poodle? A rabbit, you ass. A rabbit. He said poodle to the dog. Going to a dog. A dog at the front door like this. Oh, I'm good now.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Come on, man. All of you fellas out here thinking that because you get money, you drive that, you live in that, that you don't need a woman. Come on, man. Listen, as much paper as I've been getting and getting, my girl's been gone. She moved. She's been gone like 10 months. I don't like going home without my girl there. I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:36:04 I don't like going home without my girl there. I don't like it. I don't like it. I've been doing interviews trying to figure out what could I say and do to get her to come back. I'm ashamed. You want your girl back? I do. Wow. I do. Now we got options out here. But they don't mean nothing.
Starting point is 00:36:20 They don't mean nothing. The one that was living with him that he wrote the song about. I wrote this album about. The whole album. I don't like it. Hold on, my brother. Now, guess what? You can be in a bed with a woman and still feel alone. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:33 You can definitely be with somebody and be lonelier with somebody that you don't want to be with. Absolutely. There is a feeling of still feeling alone even when you're physically with somebody. I thought you was dating some night ladies. Shut up, Charlamagne. Where Lavin. Oh, Charlamagne. Where you get that from, Charlamagne? On the blogs. Okay, I'm reading the blogs. Blogs said you gay.
Starting point is 00:36:50 All right, well. The blogs say you light skin. The blogs say you light skin. The blogs say you look up to envy and you want your skin to look like his. Are we going to believe that? That's definitely two bold-faced lies. The game was a lie too, but the one looking up to Envy offends
Starting point is 00:37:10 me more than all of them. My thing is we're in a day and age where we're amongst the lost generation. We got so many people out here that are geniusly talented, but they have no sense of direction. We got a bunch of people uninspired, unmivated trying to figure out how do i get my life and my career to the next level
Starting point is 00:37:31 without compromising my spirituality or my sexuality without feeling like i gotta go do something thirsty a sex tape or this or that just to get some buzz and attention around my career and so i just want to put this out there because there's a million people watching this. Go get Black Rose. But I want to just say this because it need to be said. I believe that this is the season for good people to win. I believe that you can love God, not be out here doing things with antics and this and that just to get some attention and love
Starting point is 00:38:06 around your creativity and your career and i also want to say this it is not in everybody's cars to be famous it's not in every there is a such thing as a billionaire that's on the train right now and you don't even know who the hell he is and he likes it he likes or she likes just being successful, wealthy, having private plans, living this life and lifestyle and not be famous. So many people are focused on fame. It's crazy. Especially in this era. We come from the era of being just want to be successful. And the definition of famous is so different now.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Oh, my God. Listen, I don't wake up every day trying to figure out how to be more famous. I'm the chairman and CEO of Voltron Entertainment. We got 43 projects that are in various different phases. I got billionaires, hedge funds, multimillionaires around the world all communicating and rocking trying to figure out how to way to bring these visions to life. And it ain't about antics, man. Listen, right now, the reason I want this album to be successful as well is because i want
Starting point is 00:39:07 to be able to highlight love again i like you're not even on the cover of a magazine unless you're about to file for divorce right like i feel like positive like why can't you be married with a functioning relationship with your kids that are smart and educated not out here being bullied or bullying and have some attention to be given to your marriage and your relationship the devil has been busy trying to highlight negativity and not spread no love to positivity so i'm just putting it out there like i'm not preaching i don't want nobody to be like oh here we go he think he listen man man shut up shut up you got a job to do as a hater. I understand that you didn't create it, a username and a password so you could talk about
Starting point is 00:39:51 everybody's life and tear them down. I got that. Do your job. Nobody wants to be unemployed. But it's very simple, man. There's a this is the season for good people to win. This is the season for people that wake up every day with good and positive intentions towards other people's lives to finally win it's confusing women are in school every day single parent working their ass off getting on the bus and and public transportation trying to take care of their kids and survive and they feel like damn what do i gotta do a sex tape to finally get me as an entrepreneur to get some attention on some of the shit I'm doing? I'm just tired, man.
Starting point is 00:40:30 I'm tired. I'm not frustrated, but I'm tired and I feel like, again, everybody stay encouraged, stay on your path, and just know that as a positive person who has not allowed this game to compromise my spirituality or my sexuality in order for me to
Starting point is 00:40:47 get on and keep winning i'ma keep rocking and when i win you winning and i just want us to win statement the statement is this if we're trying to save r&b it's not about ourselves i want to put this out there if i wanted to make money i wouldn wouldn't be in music. I'm getting real money with all the other shit I'm doing. So for me to do music, I'm really trying to make a statement on behalf of R&B. Black Rose, my album, is number one in 13 countries. It's number one on Google Play, Apple Music, iTunes, period. It's number one R&B top 200.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Supporting this Black Rose album as you're helping me to make a statement you tired all this ratchet out here happening help me to make a statement because the music industry and executives are like robots what's selling let's put our money into that let's put the r&b acts back on the radio, back in business. Let's get talented people off of the shelves and put them back on. They're reactive, that's all. That's it. So guess what? This win, you're going to see.
Starting point is 00:41:53 It's like Avatar. Everybody start doing 3D movies after that movie was the biggest. Black Rose is Avatar. Number one in the country right now. Period. We appreciate you for joining us. I feel like I just read a week of Tyrese's Facebook post. And congratulations on the success.
Starting point is 00:42:12 And I hope you get your girl back. I hope I do, too. She's listening. I hope. Y'all are real popular, so I'm letting the world know. I want my girl back. And I don't mind the world knowing. Sing State right now.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Well, you know, I got to sing other people's song because my song ain't working right now. I've been really trying baby trying to hold back in feelings for so long and if you
Starting point is 00:42:44 feel like I feel baby, come home. Oh, come home. Ah. I'm just saying. She might hear that. She might hear that. Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own?
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