The Breakfast Club - Tyrese Mends His Relationship With The Breakfast Club, Talks Ex Wife, Will & Jada, New Music + More
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through man he was running up the street running through the street musty but it's all good oh wow
wow ladies and gentlemen tyree what's up's up, Black Ty? Hey, man.
I like the new digs, man, you know?
I'm looking for my image.
Oh, we got to do that wall.
You ain't going to be up there, but we still doing that wall.
Or am I already up there because I'm that black?
How are you, my brother?
You're subliminals.
Oh, man, there you go right there, Reese. No, man, we really doing that wall.
How are you, man, there you go right there. No, man, we really doing that wall. How are you, man?
Man, you know, honestly, I'm getting better every day, you know.
Yeah, I'm getting better every day.
I've gotten this thing in my head where, you know, through my therapy sessions,
you know, she just said, don't worry about next week, next year.
Just focus on every 24 hours that you get, you know she just said don't worry about next week next year just focus on every 24 hours
that you get you know and that's done a lot for me you know because i think so many of us
are you know even if you you know the entrepreneur in us is always thinking about next week if you
dealing with a personal trauma you're trying to process it you focus on that everything for me is just 24 hours so
i've been uh that's done a lot for me with just being able to just kind of process things enjoying
the moment that's it all right sit we got a guy here man who's a super fan of you super producer
super producer but he's also a super fan of tyree's like a real fan like he's like i'm like
came this morning singing and not just Sweet Lady.
Like singing catalog.
He said last time he was here.
He said he purchased the Black Tie album and was very excited about it.
And every time he has rap conversations, he talks about the Black Tie album that he's purchased.
But he said when he met you, you didn't take a picture with him.
He said you told him no more pictures.
No more pictures?
That's what he said.
You got to right that wrong before you leave.
Oh, shit.
You got a lot of rights to wrong, too, Charlemagne.
That's right.
No, but seriously, I think it's only rights.
We're going to talk about it.
We're going to.
I mean, you got to catch the Mickeys when they're coming in.
I see what you're saying.
I see what you're saying.
I mean, hey, guys, listen.
Give us a call, the Breakfast Club hotline,
if you ever ran into Charlemagne Tha God running through the airport
and tried to take a quick selfie or picture and he curved you,
call us on the phone right now to tell us about it.
But we think it's only right.
He just wants to hang on your back and take a picture.
That's it.
He's straight.
He's a straight man.
He's got a girlfriend.
He just want to on your back.
We're not doing that today please but sometimes people don't realize you human and listen you have human moments i'm every bit of human that's
right and because i'm an entertainer don't mean that i belong to you that's right it's the big
gentleman outside the big gentleman outside i had you up on his way in? Oh, he played my song as I was on my way in. I told you he was very happy.
Yeah, I love that.
I gave him some love.
So let him hop on your back
for one picture, Reece.
No, he's too heavy
to be on my back, for one.
Yeah, exactly.
And for two,
nobody's getting on my back
but my daughters.
That's right.
So let's just move on
from that thought
because you've already said
that shit three times.
Yes.
Look, Tyrese,
I have a serious question
on these heathens listen um
so you took an eight nine year break from music yes what what what made you do that um
well I mean honestly I do music when I really feel it um and sadly I think most of us as artists, we don't really have those luxuries.
Right. So I think it's in everybody's best interest, especially now, because being an entrepreneur, figuring out all kind of other ways of getting bags and getting money.
It is it is more real now than it's ever been.
A rapper used to just be a rapper.
A singer used to just be a singer.
It was the Russell Simmons introducing us to Fat Farm
and P. Diddy's with the Sean Johns and then the Ciroc.
And so we're all sitting back and we're watching this all play out.
And we like, well, shit, rather you sell records or not,
you still feeding your family and taking care of business
and taking care of your overhead
and you don't have to worry about oh man the last album did a million when that was a part of music
business last album did a million the first week and the single was number one for this and now
the album just did 12 000 the first week with shit you about to be in foreclosure in three weeks damn you know just just just the
dependency on just doing music one thing so you know the movies and the opportunities that that
god has blessed me with with these films on the level of the films that i've been able to do
when i do music it it it's when i actually feel it. When something happens where I could actually get in the vocal booth
and feel it and do it, and it's not motivated by money,
I don't lose sleep over who's hot, who's not.
I've never been irrelevant to me.
Ever.
Not to me either.
Thank you, Jess.
Don't ask me.
No.
Please, go ahead.
I'm not worried about you at all.
But what was that moment?
You said when you get a moment, what was the moment that said,
I want to start doing it again?
Was it your daughter?
No, it was the divorce.
It was the unexpected divorce.
So that's where Beautiful Pain solely came from?
Yes.
Okay.
Can R&B artists only write through the lens of the pain, though?
Because you had a lot of good moments over the last eight, nine years.
Nobody want to hear that.
The beautiful, no, here's the thing, right?
And I got to make sure I say this because this platform is powerful.
I love y'all and thank y'all again for having me.
But there is nothing about my album where I'm coming into this thing specifically trying to use my voice stage and platform and music to say, fuck him, fuck her.
I don't you know, I could do bad, but that's not my everything about this album is a divorce deterrent i don't want when you when people see me posting about the
specifics of things that i've been through certain manipulation and lies that my ex is putting out
there i'm unpacking real shit but i was just i was just having a conversation last night with somebody who's going through a situation right now.
And although I didn't do a DJ envy.
He wasn't talking to me this time.
It just wasn't me this time.
Put that out there.
God didn't give me no assignment to do nothing like that.
I'm like, okay, well, if it's an assignment, then it ain't something that you finna do 10, 12 times in a row.
So I was very clear that what God put on my heart to do with my brother,
it happened.
I don't know if he appreciates that as much as he should.
He don't.
Do you appreciate what Tyrese did for you back then?
Of course.
Okay, just making sure.
Of course.
I don't feel like you do.
Why don't you feel like me? No, I'm new to Of course. I don't feel like you do. Why don't you feel like me?
No, I'm new to Breakfast Club.
I don't know what's going on.
What happened?
I'll explain it.
Yeah.
All right.
I was going through a hard time.
She didn't know my wife.
My wife wanted to get a divorce.
Charlamagne talked me into apologizing on the radio
and calling her live.
Okay, Martin Lawrence. Why would you ever? That didn't happen. Bad live. That was not Charlemagne. Lawrence, why would you
ever? That didn't happen. Bad idea.
But it was a good idea. I'm going to tell you why. Bad idea
because I put my business on the radio.
Yes. Right? Yes. Right?
Tyrese happened to be in town
and heard some of the things
that were going on. So Tyrese
called to check on me and see what was going on.
I was going through it. And instead of
just checking and keeping moving, he stayed on top of it to the point where he became the therapist.
Yeah.
The mediator.
Right.
The person in between.
Right.
The reason that you are with your wife today.
Right.
Still part of that reason.
Correct.
Absolutely.
So he was in there being that person in the middle of it. So he was the one where he was explaining and talking because sometimes during those type of situations, wife didn't want to hear from me.
My wife didn't want to hear from me.
Absolutely not.
But, you know, she was hearing from Tyrese from a different side.
Anything.
Can I finish my story?
So anyway, Tyrese called and said, hey, this is what I want you to do.
Get a dinner, book a private room at Chow's.
I'm going to be there.
You and your wife have a dinner, and I'm going to come in,
and I'm going to sing Stay, which is my favorite Tyrese song.
Classic record.
Oh, my God.
Classic record.
Right?
And he had a violinist, and he came, and they sang Stay.
He sat down there with us for dinner and spoke to us and guided us and, you know, he sat down there
with us for dinner
and spoke to us
and guided us through
as far as he could
our relationship
and,
you know,
we had to go through
other steps.
With all of that,
Tyrese still got a big
envy to play as Rex.
And then the thing is,
no,
and then y'all treat him
like this
when he comes here.
Yeah.
I'm sorry, Ty.
Well, no,
before I even got here,
that's the whole thing.
What Charlamagne just said
is true. I don't feel, that's the whole thing. What Charlamagne just said is true.
I don't feel, and you got to keep in mind,
I look at it as heavenly deposits.
When you do things for people and you're not saying,
I'm going to do this because I want this out of it.
Right.
The most uncomfortable part of my day thus far
is just listening to envy tell that story
oh why why because i didn't do it to be for that to be praised about it i didn't do it
because i knew that they was going to write their book together about it or be doing interviews
about it it was literally an assignment so crazy that even before I came here to sing at this restaurant,
we were already on the phone for at least two months.
I didn't hear your interview in New York.
Damn, I never even heard anybody say that before.
We was on the phone for two months.
We was on the phone for two straight months
because I never heard your interview from New York.
That happened for me for L.A.
Oh, from L.A.?
Yeah, because when you announced it it went
viral so I was able to hear the apology on the gram so that's when I reached out to you and then
this is something I've never told you um you remember when I I said hey man make arrangements
to get the whole house cleaned the house housekeeper, and then I said,
I'ma set up the room, come meet me here,
and we organized all of that.
I text you and I was like, yo man,
I'm on my way to New York,
I got a bunch of interviews and meetings,
and label, I gotta go run in the label,
go this and that, that was all a lie.
I flew in town just for you and your wife.
Oh, wow.
And you don't play his record?
No.
It's not about his record.
I don't need my records played.
Yeah.
But I will say this.
But this is the part that I don't appreciate about Envy.
Oh.
Is when Tyrese divorce comes across your headline,
when the captions associated to the things that comes across your headline, when the captions associated to the things
that come across your desk,
where is that same heart and love that I extended to you,
that you could extend to me
instead of it just being paper pushing
and this is what Tyrese is on the gram again.
And then it's like, okay, that's expected. No, it's all right, this is what Tyrese is on the gram again that's exactly what he did okay that's
expected no it's all right this is my brother if he can't sing though no why is everything
while every on-air personality blog podcast whatever they got a job to do they're gonna
say things the clickbait ratings this and that but when you have certain people on the radio
and you've developed some type of relationship with them,
and again, you owe me nothing, right?
Ultimately, you did the work.
I just had, God just decided to take my hand
and use it in any way he can.
And there's nobody that could ever give me more props
than what God has done for me.
To say like, good job, son.
You did everything I asked you to do.
You don't even know what I have in mind for you,
but you did it.
And there's a very married couple
that was very married.
Everybody go through things.
But why is my marriage funny?
Why is my divorce
just something to talk about?
Perfect.
Where is the outreach?
This is a good conversation.
Let's put it all out there.
Go ahead.
Where is the call?
You good, Reese?
It's like, we checked on you.
I need to come to Atlanta and come pull up on you at the house and put my eyes on you.
Let me tell you.
No, Charlemagne came to do an interview that I requested for him to do I'd never stepped in and God never
used me to step in when this
man marriage was potentially on the
brink I'm gonna tell you why
it's kind of like when
a preacher tells you something in church right
and the preacher tells you what you need to
do to be better then you look at
the preacher's life and you say
how do you teach me something that you're not doing
I don't respect the preacher anymore life and you say how do you teach me something that you're not doing i don't
respect the preacher anymore oh shit i respect the message and how it came but you know what i've
been through and you know how i changed as a man and as a person and you were there for it it was
a brother for but then when i look at my brother and saying what he's telling me to do and how he's
telling me to live he's not living that way, I don't respect it.
How do we know that, though?
I'm going to tell you why.
These are the things that we've seen, and not only in private,
because things that we know in private,
but it's also things that I see in public.
Me and my wife are good, right?
Hold on. I got to respond to that.
Let me give examples first so you understand where I'm coming from,
because if you don't know where I'm coming from,
you're just going to pull things out of the blue.
I'm not going to pull anything out of the blue. I'm not going to pull anything out of the blue.
I'm going to respond to what you just said.
First of all, to arrive at an opinion of what I'm doing versus what I'm not doing is based on public consumption.
I never made a decision or God never used me to make a decision about your life based on what was being reported on public consumption.
What I know about you, what I know about what you did, what I ultimately knew about what your wife was feeling and carrying and what y'all were in the process of, you couldn't read none of that online.
I got that information from the outreach. So whatever feelings you have about me and what I should be
or shouldn't be doing pertaining to my approach with how I'm unraveling and bleeding out loud
in the middle of my thing, that would have actually been the reason to call.
No. And I did have conversations with you. And this is from before your ex-wife, when you were
talking to the girl overseas and who you were as a man.
I didn't respect that.
And then when we talk on these private chats
and it has nothing to do with the public,
just having to do with who you were
and how you speak and how you talk
and how you talk about the people next to you,
I didn't respect it.
To the point where I blocked you on my chat
because I didn't want to see Tyrese as that.
That's not the man that was my brother.
Let's shoot Bell because I think this is a great conversation
because I think it's a lot of miscommunication between all of us, right?
And you were going through a lot back then because you admitted that to me.
Because when me and you had words.
Are we talking about psych med, Tyrese?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a little bit of everything.
He was on the psych meds then because you said you don't even remember a lot of the stuff you were saying. I don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's when you was on the psych med. It's a little bit of everything. He was on the psych meds then. Because you said you don't even remember a lot of the stuff you were saying.
I don't.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't at all.
So it's like when you get drunk, do you hold your boy to what he's saying while he's drunk?
No, I never held that against you.
Okay.
Do you hold anybody to anything that they're doing when you know that this is their usual self?
They were drunk.
They were out of their mind. And they end up saying and doing some shit that hurt my feelings that was offensive
that made me feel a way but i know that characteristically that's not who this man is
the difference is i don't i i honestly don't know what psych meds you were on or who you are
i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
I never had a conversation with you because I never wanted to see you like that. The person who
spoke to me on these texts spoke to my wife during that time at the text. I didn't like that. And I
wanted to remember Tyrese as a person that was my brother and helped my relationship,
not the Tyrese that I was going through. So I took a step back from you.
So you got the text messages of the psych med Tyrese?
He did. That's what it was.
Are you crazy? Charlamagne told you to suck his dick before on that message.
Because he was talking crazy.
Whoa, whoa.
You know that. We had this conversation already.
But he said, he literally said, I don't remember any of that.
I don't remember what I said that made you say that or made you feel that way.
But to this point, I took a step back because I didn't know what you were going through.
And I tried to talk to you, and I seen who you were.
And I didn't even like who you were online.
And to my point, I tried.
And when I seen how you were talking this way, I said, I'm going to take a step back.
And you know what?
When me and Tyree had a conversation.
How convenient?
How convenient?
Yeah.
When the way you were talking, the way that you were.
How convenient?
The step back.
What you mean?
I never stepped back from you. I mean, you. that you were. How convenient to step back. What you mean? I never stepped back from you.
From you.
That's right.
You should have stepped back.
But I never talked to your wife in a disrespectful manner.
And you talked to mine in a disrespectful manner.
And I never told nobody that.
If I've ever talked.
And you could say you were on those psych meds and you could say that you weren't.
What you mean?
But as a man, some of the things that you said, Tyrese, deserved me to box your mouth.
Hold on.
Hold on. No, no, no, no.
No, no, no.
No, we were talking because this is something that I never wanted to say.
And since he wants to be, well, why, Envy?
I'm telling him why.
You said disrespectful shit to my wife.
What do you say?
It's neither here nor there.
To the point where, well, my wife doesn't call you back anymore.
And to the point, when you started talking to psych meds, me and my wife had a conversation.
I said, well, maybe Tyrese was on those medicines when he said.
But if you ever text me and my wife, you can't text me because I just unblocked you probably about a month ago when me and Charlamagne was talking.
He told me that you were on the psych meds and this is what it was.
This is longer than a month ago.
Yeah, that's what made me unblock you.
So that was the reason why I stopped talking to you
and will not reach out to you anymore because I'm like I don't want want to remember my
brother as that and maybe you are going through problems so if somebody talks to
if I talk to your wife if I talk to your wife disrespectful I don't expect for
you to come check on me and that's how I felt at that time you did that to a lot
of people don't maybe I should have been had this conversation no no no listen
this is great we have anyone God want us to have that's it and and i'm gonna say this because this is not the first time i've said this the things that i
said and did the people that i rubbed the wrong way the things that i posted my conduct overall
that was literally out of my control i've literally prayed that people can find it in their heart
to not hold me to something that I said and did
while I was literally out of my mind.
And if we could expect God to give us grace,
we should always extend that same grace.
So what I'm saying to you is,
everybody clearly could see that something was
going on this is not something's happening crying video what more do you want from me
something is happening and so now when you're out of your mind you don't go on instagram and say i just got off the phone
and will smith is sending me five million dollars when i never even talked to will smith
oh you don't call jayden and say i ain't no killer but don't push me right revenge is like
on the phone to jay because i was like, maybe that'll help for her to call real.
Ain't no way.
I said that.
I believe it.
But when you told me that, that's when I had grace.
I was like, damn.
You think about it.
What have I ever said about Tyrese?
Nothing.
Nothing but positivity in my book.
That's not true.
When I did interviews.
There's nothing that I've ever said negative about Tyrese.
We didn't show Tyrese a lot of grace when we was reporting those headlines.
I can admit that.
And I remember being up there reporting a headline and you straight bust out laughing.
He did it.
You did it.
And that's what I'm talking about.
So I'm saying, literally, I don't do anything for anybody expecting anything in return but to say, you know what? I know that if my divorce had ultimately happened,
I don't really know that I'd be sitting in front of Envy right now.
So now extend that grace to me to say,
I'm going to put myself in Tyree's shoe.
Whether it's drunk, whether it's psych meds, that's my brother.
And when I leave this station, I still get
to go home to a wife and a family.
And for whatever reason, this nigga
didn't even know my name.
He was Envy. Your wife was on the phone
beautiful. You know,
Rishon. And I was like,
who is that?
So, everything
that happened, happened the way
it did. And in my mind, I didn't look at it any other way but doing God's work.
And in this room, in this situation, good seed is planted.
So if my name ever come across the desk, if there's anything that y'all have to report because you got the rumor report, you got things that you got.
You got a job to do. But the grace and the energy that I'm feeling from what's being reported
doesn't feel like there's any connectivity to me at all.
Well, we know why now, because Envy was upset.
I'm not going to lie.
I felt the way I told you this about, you know,
coming down to Atlanta, doing the interview that never came out.
I felt like my time was wasted.
And that wasn't on me.
And you know that.
Yeah, yeah.
So, I mean, we both had our little issues that were just petty shit.
That's all.
But we love you, my brother.
And that's what brothers do.
And you apologized to me for wasting my time.
So I'll apologize publicly to you for not showing you that grace when we was doing those rumor reports.
Well, listen, it's like I said, y'all have a job to do, man.
But, yeah, it's like.
You don't mean that. Huh? You don't mean that. I don't mean what? That we have a job to do, man. But yeah, it's like- You don't mean that.
Huh?
You don't mean that.
I don't mean what?
That we have a job to do.
You don't want-
Ty, come on.
You don't want us to report on you like we do everybody else.
Y'all have a job to do to report the things that come across y'all desk.
I just ask for grace.
But some of this shit be funny.
Well, I gave you that.
You have to laugh and you got to report it.
But it's the dialogue that comes along
with it after it's reported that's like oh come on man that's that come on man i thought i was
your man some of it funny that's mostly him over there he's with home depot for a million dollars
that ain't funny that's not true no it's not true i'm not suing home depot for a million it's 450
450 million yes sir okay see now that's funny i was like that ty Home Depot for a million. It's $450. $450 million? Yes, sir.
Oh, okay.
See, now that's funny.
I was like, that's only a million?
Okay, it's $450.
Yeah, that's just stupid.
All right.
Yeah, by the time I pay my lawyers, their retainer,
and break it up with the two brothers that work with me for 13 years,
what am I suing somebody for a million dollars for?
So what was the lawsuit over?
They wouldn't give you a lawnmower or something?
Yo, shut up.
Yo, shut up.
You see?
It's not me. What? It's you up. Yo, shut up. You see? You see?
It's not me.
What?
It's you.
No, no.
What do you mean?
Comedy is funny, man.
Tyrese a funny motherfucker.
Y'all let Tyrese fool y'all with all his theories.
He's serious.
So basically, the moment happened.
We don't have to recycle the whole thing.
It's all over TikTok, all over social media.
They got really disrespected while they were there and then i tried to get them to fix it over the phone
they refused to fix it on the phone so i had to come to the store and they ended up doing the same
to me that they was doing to them and then we tried to handle everything privately off the record
they showed no respect with the lawyers, communicating with the lawyers.
And I said, man, y'all just actually don't give a fuck.
So, yeah, it's that.
Do you think the employee was just doing her job, though?
No.
Because she has to check the ID of the person who has the card.
No, I've been at that Home Depot for at least 10 years.
Y'all know, y'all been to my backyard.
It's like all that is Home Depot.
That's my Disneyland.
So the reason that people falsely reported a million dollars,
because my attorney, Marty Singer, who's a monster,
he said that you have to put at least a minimum of a million in the lawsuit
or they'll throw it off into small claims court.
So that's the only amount that they could actually put in there
to make sure that they know that this is a much bigger thing.
So, yeah, I think ultimately with all this energy that's happening,
we are already getting some different kind of phone calls
that they want this to go away
because all of the other people that have had racist experiences at Home Depot,
which where would Home Depot be without black and brown people that's in their stores every
day?
So it really hurt me on a personal level because even though people laugh when I say this,
this is not a psych med thought.
I know I've spent at least eight to $10 million at Home Depot.
I fucking, I build and create.'m mr do-it-yourself
i just love shopping and building and doing spend more money you go to lowell's now no
what do you do now well you're an idiot yo why is this that's not the serious like what is the
serious question we do that like well right now the things that I'm doing has been just paused, you know, because I don't want to make it seem like I'm leaving Home Depot, despite Home Depot, to go to Lowe's.
And I'm just like, whatever I was in the middle of doing, I'm like, let me just, because if somebody take a picture of me inside of Lowe's, then it looks like a gimmick.
Ain't no gimmick.
Got you, got you, got you, got you.
You know?
I wanted to ask about-
So we good now?
Everybody good?
Yeah, well, Envy, Envy, Envy, let me say this to you, and I'm sure your wife gonna see this.
I did exactly what God put on my heart to do, and I really hope that you and your wife
could extend me some grace to not hold me to anything that I said or text you with
while I was literally out of my mind and hold me to the person that y'all got to know
throughout this entire process. So if I suddenly became something else and y'all don't even recognize me most people didn't recognize me i'm still on an apology tour
for the damage that i've caused my relationship with will smith is still beautiful but it'll never
be the same because the whole smith family woke up to all the energy that they did and like of
all people in my life you know how public i've been about how will smith
has changed my life of all people that's the last person that should have woke up to all this energy
about you know that thought like oh will smith got five million it was the i said the samantha
was pregnant when she wasn't it was all kind of shit that was just happening and and then this is the
part that I've never said publicly imagine being so out of your mind on
psych meds which I've never taken in my life I don't drink I don't smoke I don't
there was I don't do anything as a gateway into drugs. I smoke hookah. That's kind of it. He can't stand me in that smoke hookah.
Go ahead, you say you smoke hookah and
what else?
Okay, so I smoke hookah.
That's kind of it.
Praise God.
Thank you.
Praise God.
So there's nothing about
me pertaining to my own system that is now prepared for a bigger thing.
Drug wise, drinking wise, if it would ever happen.
So you put something in my system, it's not only going to have adverse, it's going to have the most extreme adverse effects.
And it ended up playing out for the world to see yeah i got a
12 minute video on the internet that i never knew i filmed that was uploaded and was on the internet
for three straight months i was a meme i got the ugliest crying faces of all time and it became
the most embarrassing thing that's ever happened to me ever. And I didn't even know I did it.
And I didn't know that the jokes was flying.
I didn't know that what more do you want from me or congrats.
I never knew that none of that was out there.
And then when the psych meds finally got out of my system,
as a person, and this is something that I want y'all
to really, really hear me on this.
Why don't you drink?
Why don't you do drugs?
Why don't you fuck around?
You've been in the game.
You ain't never had no wine.
You ain't never drunk a beer, nothing.
My mother was an alcoholic, rest in peace, for 27 years.
Father was a crackhead, still a crackhead.
So everything about my house and everything about my environment
that i grew up in in the hood it made me work really hard to be the opposite of everything
that i grew up in and around so that's why i don't fuck around to this day so imagine working this
hard to be the opposite of that to then to have something like that to happen and I
end up becoming everything that I've worked hard to not fuck with my whole
life I mean some other nigga can't get drunk and be like oh man my bad I was
on one you know whatever that is when I tell you I was more fucking depressed and sad about the
damage that was done from me being out of my mind because it was it was like
well see if you want to know why I don't drink and don't smoke and don't ever
fuck with nothing that's the reason why I mean I'm talking about I pulled out
the biggest water holes with lighter fluid and burned down
every fucking tree I could
for every personal, business,
movie, franchise, and relationship.
Listen, because you going through some shit
don't mean you gotta get into some psych meds
and fuck up every relationship.
Can you laugh at it now when you go back in?
No.
No, he ain't laugh this whole damn time.
You know why I can't laugh? Because envy still feels a way and I ain't seen this brother since it all happened.
And I don't even know what I text this brother or his wife. So I'm here
still on an apology tour and this was 2017. Well I will say this as far as I'm
concerned is it's is over. You know I mean we had a conversation I'm sure my
wife would feel the same way. Um,
but yeah, you're right. And the reason I say that is what,
and I'm not going to bring it back,
but I'm going to tell you what my mind frame was.
I had somebody that worked for you call me up and what I felt and what
happened to me, you must've did to him as well.
And we'll talk behind the scenes what it was. And that just made me say, you know what?
Let me take a step away.
Just think about how many times I was in Atlanta.
You like, yo E, come by the crib.
And I just, nah,
because I just didn't know who you were as a person
because who, when I looked at you,
I looked at you as big bro, right?
And when I was going through my problems,
you would call, you would check your E,
I'm checking on you.
And this is not, and to people to understand, it wasn't that two in the afternoon.
Tyrese called me four in the morning before work.
When I'm driving to work, he's talking to me on the way to work, making sure you're good.
Calling my wife right after, making sure she good.
Then calling me in the middle of the show, talking to me.
Eight hour conversation.
And these were like my moments where I was probably the most fucked up in life.
Remember how you was fucked up and you laid under the counter?
What about me?
I was dehydrated.
Remember you was dehydrated?
What about me?
I was there.
While I was fucked up.
Where is that love?
We ain't about to do no oppression Olympics.
No, but there was no love.
And the reason there was no love is because there was messages in what you said.
And I couldn't love somebody that I felt didn't love me.
And you said,
and like you said,
I came there for God.
I came there as an assignment
and I came there as this.
But like I said before,
you were the preacher that was preaching
that wasn't living the way he was supposed to be living.
Who would you divorce, Samantha or Envy?
I don't know.
First of all,
being happy it ain't you.
You jealous as shit, somebody else confessing envy. I just, I just, Samantha or Envy? I don't know. First of all, being happy it ain't you.
Jealous as shit,
somebody else confesses envy.
I just,
I just,
listen,
however way we got to that place,
my apology has already happened.
But I want to tell you,
my only disappointment is I didn't know you
to arrive at how I feel about you.
I didn't know you to arrive at how I feel about what you ultimately did to your wife at the time.
It was also none of my business.
I just did what I did.
I stepped in.
There was the assignment.
And then when somebody goes that far, when you going through some shit,
whether you don't like the way it feels or how it looks
or whatever you'll be like yo i know your heart and i expected if i had any expectation which i
didn't have any it would be like yo man this shit is hot right now because i had a lot of people hit
the parachute button like man something's going on bro we gotta you know i'm out right because
the champagne is flowing everything is good when niggas go through shit they run I never ran from
you I ran to you and I didn't know you and I didn't get any I didn't want
anything from it other than me understanding that this is what it is so
all I'm saying to you from this point on cuz I never did this with Charlamagne I
never did this with Jeff hmm which is horrible. From this point on,
just do the best you can to just,
hey, bro, you all right?
Yeah, it's not a problem.
And have the conversation.
I'll do that.
See, we can do that now,
but just see, I play Rashawn all day.
I play DJ Envy all day.
I play light-skinned jokes.
I play all types of jokes,
but I don't play Gear, Madison, Logan,
London, Jackson, Brooklyn, or Peyton.
I draw the line where it is. And I don't care
what anybody says about Grace. That's my family.
Somebody could give me $20 million. When you
play with my kid, kiss my ass from the back.
That's just how I feel until we have that conversation.
Now that we have that conversation, it's a different
story. But I play with Sean all day.
I don't play them seven people
that live in that house with me. And none of us should be taking it personal because I don't play I don't play them seven people that live in that house and none of us should be taking it personal
because you know always say I don't play I don't take anything personal yeah but
my family my kid he wasn't he wasn't he wasn't in his right mind but now we're
having a conversation but when we do that I step away and the reason I step
away is because I don't want it to go past where I go and you know where I go
yeah well I guess I might as well but I. I can get away from the breakfast club for a second and say,
for anybody who I have not ran into,
where you got a text message or a phone call or a 12-minute voice note
in the middle of the night,
or you seen me say some shit or post some shit while I was out of my mind.
He called Jada quoting Tupac Hail Mary, man.
I said it's done. I'm done. I'm good. We good. I was not of my mind. He called Jada quoting Tupac Hail Mary, man. I said it's done.
I said it's done.
I'm done.
I'm good.
We good.
I was not my usual self.
Please don't hold me to anything that I said.
And if you expect God to forgive you for things that you say and do, extend that same grace to me.
We good.
I'm sorry to everybody.
Not just you and your wife.
Sing it, man.
You gotta sing it.
I'm sorry.
I ain't singing shit.
Sing it, man.
I'm sorry. Singing shit. Well, if it means. I'm sorry. I ain't singing shit, man. I'm sorry.
Singing shit.
Well, if it means anything, Tyrese,
I wasn't supposed to be up here today.
Tyrese Gibson,
I was not supposed to be up here today,
but they said you was coming,
and I was like, oh, what?
Shit, I'm coming up here.
The fuck?
So I extend you grace every time I talk about you.
They be sitting up here,
well, I'm sorry, Amy. they be sitting up here. Well,
I'm sorry.
He be sitting up here,
big plan about a divorce.
And I'm like,
first of all,
I ain't never played with that man.
Yes,
you did.
I,
I,
when I reported the story,
you was like,
Oh,
what now?
And I'm like,
hold up. First of all,
he's been bamboozled by a woman and it's,
it's crazy.
It's crazy.
And I felt like for you to,
your marriage was in shambles.
Yes,
it was in big shambles, but she didn't leave. And it's all and i feel like for you your marriage was in shambles years ago i don't even know why i said yes it was in big shambles but she didn't leave and it's all right okay you made a
lot of changes to that family and that's what i'm saying that's what i'm saying you got a job to do
you got a job to do to report the shit that's coming across your desk but my thing is man
the whole time sorry my thing is like oh do y'all know what it's like to go home to an empty house?
Hell yeah, me.
Not them.
Me.
Nobody could survive that, bro.
The fact that I'm sitting here and ain't fucking checked into a mental health hospital.
Like, bro, I know where you was at with it and I've never went to that level of kind of like the idea
that this might be over for me
and I'm going to lose everything
because of a mistake I made.
I never made that mistake
and I'm still out of a marriage.
Look, you didn't see any red flags.
I came home, this motherfucker took the clothes
and the fucking hangers on my shit.
You didn't see red flags, Tyrese?
No, I did not.
At all, nothing.
And nobody else did either.
No. Let me ask you a question.
You know, y'all both talk about it
so much and on public.
There's not anybody
in between that can say, you know what?
Let's discuss because at the end of the day, y'all do have a
child. Yeah. And you don't want the child
to see mom and dad talking
about each other. Well, we was expecting Envy and
Gear to show up to Atlanta.
Oh, Lord.
Here y'all go
circling this beige wagon again.
I love circling the home.
I mean.
Stop saying beige wagon.
You projecting.
You asking.
You asking.
No, I'm asking because.
You didn't have nobody
in your life,
you know,
like a you
who did what you did.
You got a point.
You got a point.
You got a point. Okay, a point. You got a point.
Okay, so again.
No, man, let's move on
because I don't want to get mad.
I love the way I love
and the most heartbreaking thing
about any friendship or brotherhood
is that people will never do for you
what you do for them.
I don't give a fuck what it is.
And I had no expectations.
That's not fair though
because we can't sing if i could sing i'd pull up on you i don't want you to sing
sing for me i don't want you to sing man fair man you know it's crazy but speaking of music
you had to know when you started talking about your life and your divorce in your music then
she would respond absolutely no you had to know that
okay you do that guys i had a gag order one thing i don't do it i don't lie you don't have to like
what i say but i'm not gonna lie and i don't do interviews to make sure the niggas like me
when i leave you don't you're not a liar but you lie you have you said you just did say you have. I've seen you. I've seen you. I've seen you some times.
Charlamagne, I could not post and say anything about this divorce for almost two years because
anything I said and did could have been used against me in the court of law.
I put it out there that divorce happened, but I could not go into any of the specifics
and details of what actually happened until we did our trial.
She been on podcast the whole time.
She been calling Zelia, Jazza bell.
She been throwing shots at me and throwing shots at my girl
that I'm with now the whole fucking time.
Miracle Mondays out here.
I'm like, okay, so you out here manipulating the divorced, the single, the single woman that's out here.
Fuck men, fuck niggas.
Niggas always on the fuck shit.
You beating that drum.
I never heard of you.
Zelly never asked to be here.
I was a whole married man, fully married, happy, never cheated, never lied, never did anything behind your back,
never met up in the sprinter and got my head game in a parking lot of a strip club in Atlanta.
You ain't got them stories on me.
Now, everybody's got problems.
Everybody go through shit.
But I cannot sit here right now as a man to pull out my human calculator and, I'm divorced and I know why.
So, no, I never came at Sam.
Over two years, never said one thing about that woman and came at her because I legally couldn't. Now, as soon as the trial happened, now I got some shit to say because you accused me of putting you out of the house, changing the locks and kicking you in a one year old out the house.
That's a fucking lie.
You put the COVID mask on top of the rain cameras and you arranged all the shit that you did.
And now you're trying to get me for twenty thousand dollars a month for a one year old at the time.
And and and I couldn't speak on it.
And I'm hurt.
And I'm bleeding out loud.
And I don't want my shit with people I know to be using these platforms
to make a mockery of some shit that y'all know all about in your own way.
Y'all's story ain't got nothing to do with my story. Y'all's marriage and the dynamics of challenges in. Y'all story ain't got nothing to do with my story.
Y'all marriage and the dynamics of challenges y'all marriage ain't got nothing to do with mine.
But I never made a mockery of neither one of y'all marriage.
And y'all shit was out there in the press and the news.
Never jumped in no comment and contributed to the beat down.
Oh, I never made a song about these niggas.
So I just expected some grace.
What's up?
Fake Karen right now.
That's fake Karen.
You having a real conversation.
Exactly.
I'm saying his way of going at somebody would be like a diss track.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But y'all get on the radio and play a lot.
So I never did that.
There's been some real shit that Charlamagne went through.
Absolutely.
I got an Instagram.
I can write whatever the fuck I want.
Whether you like it or not.
Yeah.
I'm like,
yo man,
this ain't the right time.
Let's just hope that whatever my brother's going through right now or being accused of
or whatever he's dealing with,
let's let that calm down,
man.
I'm not going to,
I'm not goingna jump on that.
And he been going at me.
But I'm not about to say my man is going through something.
I'm sure he stressed the fuck out.
But I was going at you for something we had.
You been going at me for all kinds of shit.
What you mean, what y'all had?
Why you doing that?
I was just mad he wasted my time with that interview.
Oh.
OK.
Which you apologize for.
OK.
He got me coming back. What happened to you?
For me to fly all the way to Atlanta.
You're telling the wrong story.
What's the story then?
Somebody's lying.
That's not what another nigga flew him out that day.
He's telling my own other day.
What's the story?
I asked Charlemagne Tha God to come to Atlanta
and do a full-on interview with myself and my ex post the crying video, post what God did.
So y'all were together at this time?
We were still together.
Oh, okay.
We both were on the couch together.
I wish people could see that.
And did the whole interview.
Okay.
Post all of it.
Okay.
Okay. Okay. I said, Charlemagne, I think this is going to do something for the kingdom.
Because if anybody was supposed to file for divorce, she should have left me right after I uploaded that 12-minute video with them ugly-ass faces.
Okay?
Okay.
I gave her a reason to get out.
Right.
But she stayed.
And I said, I really wanted you to come in and do an interview.
And let's unpack and have the conversation that we've never had.
And I don't want to do it in the capacity of Breakfast Club.
Come to the crib.
Let's Barbara Walters this shit.
So what happened?
Yeah, so what happened?
Brian Barber.
Who's that?
Is that him?
No, that's Leonard.
Oh, man.
Shut up, man.
Y'all played too much.
See, it's up.
Brian Barber.
The director who I hired, camera crew, helped me with the lighting, this and that.
I was able to get blessed by confirming Charlemagne.
I flew him out, flew his executive out that was with him.
I arranged everything.
I did everything I said I was going to do.
This nigga does the fucking interview, says, I'm going to go home, get this shit edited.
I say, yo, I'm going to work with you to make sure that whatever we want to accomplish in this interview, that it doesn't go over there or go over there.
That's the point of you doing it in the house.
This nigga has taken the fucking footage and refused to give it back i paid 35 000 total for this whole shit
then i found out he did it to big boy did it to dallas austin did it to a couple niggas so i don't
care if you see this interview because i'm too honest and now i got charlamagne for years now
feeling a way about me feeling like he wasted his time, but I never waste it till time, brother.
So how was the interview?
Nick would have did it for a lot cheaper, by the way,
but how was the interview?
Nigga, I would have did it for cheaper.
We could have did the shit on my iPhone if I had known the nigga was going
to take the fucking footage and go somewhere with it
and not be able to explain.
We got the lawyers involved, all kind of shit.
Damn.
I'm like yo man
charlamagne did not have to come out here and do this oh that's what i'm saying okay so you holding
me to some that ain't got nothing to do with what that man choose to do to us so did he explain
that to you that it was the director so why are you mad at him if you explain that out much much
much much much much much so now we coming here to clean house. And then he
just recently apologized a couple months ago.
Recently? Well, why this? That's not true.
Yes, it is. It was a couple months ago.
After we reported one of the stories
about something you did.
I don't know what it was. I apologized to you
and I asked you to call him
to try and help talk this
nigga into giving up the footage and releasing it.
Oh, that never happened, Tyrus.
What happened?
You ain't never called me to ask to release the footage.
I said, yo, you got a relationship with Brian?
I don't know Brian.
I know Brian because of you.
Okay.
I said, yo, if there's any way you can make a phone call
to try and get him to let the footage go,
like this interview is beyond important.
I don't know what the fuck happened.
Let's work all sides trying to get this shit released yeah I said I don't even
need him to edit it I'll do it give us some footage I paid for it yeah you flew
out the shit was great so I apologize but what another nigga did that ain't
got nothing to do with me where's that no it's not I invited you to come out to do the interview for me without knowing that a nigga I was gonna ask to do the interview for us
meaning filming it was gonna do that but it's still a reflection to me I'm
apologizing for what I did to hurt you my brother from what ultimately wasted
your time but I'm saying again the grace why would he take a nigga
footage She like, this motherfucker so wacky. You stay right here because your perfume is right. This motherfucker bad perfume.
Mama, what this nigga wearing?
Don't you got a girlfriend?
Don't you got a girlfriend?
Don't you got a girlfriend?
I got a girlfriend, nigga, but I can inhale some perfume.
Shut the fuck up.
So we all good.
This is a Kumbaya moment.
Yeah, this is Kumbaya.
I love this.
So Al was out.
The Al is out now. You know, light-skinned niggas, they just fester.
I ain't even know none of that shit.
What?
Light-skinned niggas.
I was just trying to be quiet.
I said I'ma talk to him, I'ma talk to him by myself.
Y'all don't want to impress me to say it all there.
No, first of all.
I wanted to know, cause I seen it was getting, you know.
I was quiet shit.
Let me just admit, Envy, let me be real with you.
Y'all been going so crazy on me and my mind.
That's not true.
That hasn't been crazy time.
That hasn't been crazy time.
We did one little song.
What song did we do?
We played his record, and I used him for ad-libs.
What was the song?
The song with Lenny Kravitz.
Great record.
Envy, can I tell you how to feel about what I ended up texting you and your wife?
I can't, right?
You can't tell me how to feel about how y'all been taking shots and coming at me on the airwaves.
You've been quiet.
You've been real quiet.
So I could have text y'all, DM'd y'all with my feelings.
Well, not him, because he was black.
I'm like, since y'all been out here jumping out there, super cracking every time my name come across the head.
The rumor report, here we go with this nigga Tyrese again.
Y'all been cracking.
So I said, we going to talk about this shit on the edge.
What's the name of the record with Lenny Kravitz?
Because most of that is Charlamagne shit.
I think it's back on black crime,
the fact that y'all looking like, because it's all.
And boy.
You know what, Charlamagne, I'm impressed.
You actually coming back.
Oh, shit.
You coming back?
Y'all from where?
See, that's the other shit he be texting me.
He'll just text me randomly like, yeah I see your complexion coming back motherfucker.
No it's coming back.
But that's another regular shit.
He threw shots at us.
On social media he threw shots at us.
You made that decision.
Sitting across from this light skinned nigga thinking maybe all these opportunities is coming in because this out here
like no man melanin that's what we about okay you you you actually coming back man you've been i
said go somewhere lay up pause lay up butt ass naked and and sunbathe and and come back and get
to the dog skin community because we're hot in these streets we're hot in these streets
these light-skinned is feeling like they finally in the back of the line.
That's right.
You damn right.
But you know what's so crazy?
Did I get an apology from y'all?
I'm trying to talk about the music.
Did I get an apology from you?
I said, oh, you know what?
Let me say it the right way.
I apologize, my brother.
About?
It's like a dog's game. No, that's right. About? I apologize, my brother. I was okay. About? Just like a dog's game.
No, that's right.
Just like a dog's game.
About?
I apologize.
I should have reached out to you when you was going through your stuff.
I didn't like some things.
I didn't like who you were, but I should have asked you.
We could have had a conversation.
I should have.
No, I apologize.
And also, for the record, we did reach out.
Let's not act like we didn't reach out.
No, no, no.
Leave it alone.
But we did reach out.
Let me tell my weed.
Charlamagne?
He responded crazy to us has anybody ever turned
charlamagne we did we did anybody ever flipped his chair what i'll be the first thing come on
has there been any moment bigger than the Birdman moment?
This man is apologizing.
Are you going to jump in and interrupt the apology?
That's fucked up.
Now, where's your apology? Because I don't want people to think that we have not reached out to our brother because we have.
You just was responding back crazy.
There was text chats.
We had a text chat.
Y'all are not reaching out on your public platform.
You're talking shit about me publicly in your own way. We had a text chat Y'all are not Reaching out On your public Platform Platform Right
You talking shit
About me publicly
In your own way
And then privately
Texting me
I'm saying Tyrese
Is going through things
Use the same mic
To rip a nigga down
While I'm already down
And then also
Pray for my brother
I don't know
What my brother's
Going through right now
We know he's probably
Feeling it and in it
And we don't
We don't talk as much As we used to yeah man we want to just send some love
and that day when I reported that story T.D. Jakes was up here and y'all ain't asked him to pray for Tyrese
no I'm saying it was the day that T.D. Jakes came up here
no don't try it like that
yeah because y'all knew
it was that same day
let's go
it was that same day T's go It was that same day
T.D. Jakes came up here
And y'all ain't ever
Seen me pray for Tyrese
We got one brother on our mind
Here's the thing
We don't wanna pray for him
We love Tyrese
We love Tyrese
We pray for him T.D.
We do love you Tyrese
Exactly
Right
I don't wanna pray for the nigga
Baby
Irritate the shit out of me
With this bullshit
You texting me
But T.D.
Yeah
This is what you do
We love Tyrese Pray for the little black nigga Well now I'm come out Tyrese Beautiful pain I pushed it take the out of me with this you texting me but td yeah this is what you do we love
pray for the little black well now i'm come out tyrese beautiful pain i pushed it yeah he pushed
it why because the writer's right this guy is an idiot no somebody must have told this
that he has a shot at being on sns right who wrote this shit? Who wrote this shit? Who wrote these one lines?
What's the date of the album?
Ain't no motherfucker the way he wrote that shit.
And can we play a record?
What record you wanna play of Down?
Oh my God.
I'm trying to get back focused.
Y'all keep going.
Hey, comedy is what it's for.
I'm questioning you.
It's Tyrese, man.
Listen, comedy is what I do, nigga.
Yeah, fucking hell you say comedy is what you do,
but when we do comedy, he don't think it's funny.
No, no, you ain't, nigga,
cause you don't do comedy.
That's Tyrese's problem. You don't do comedy.
You talk shit about a nigga while I'm down.
Motherfucker.
And I swear, when we go out here,
I'm going to show you what I got for you.
I'm going to fuck your whole week up.
I got two niggas waiting outside when we leave this interview,
and I'm going to shave your beard off.
You know what time it is?
You don't need a wet rag for that. You ain't Tyrese? All you gotta do is wipe it off. You just need a wet rag
for that.
You ain't gotta
shave it off.
His hair.
Nah.
You just need a wet rag.
Y'all better leave
my Jesper man alone.
Alright so let's get
into some business
cause this nigga's crazy man.
I'm sorry.
We gonna play some
Tyrese records.
Jes stays on focus.
That's what I love about him.
They out here playing.
This nigga trying to
Before we do this Saturday he to be out in Jersey.
Yes.
Paul Walker's son does these car shows.
It's called Fuel Fest.
Fuel Fest.
And it's more than a car show.
They do racing.
What am I doing?
Are you breaking down what it is?
Well, nigga, you don't want to do it because you do the same type of shit with your car
show?
No, I don't want to.
You promote the shit out of your car show.
You got to be kidding me.
You see what I'm saying?
Now, remember what happened last time you got into it with somebody over a car show?
I'm not doing it. No, no, no. You're right. I'm saying. But I promoted his car show.'re shitting on me. You see what I'm saying? Remember what happened last time you got into it with somebody over a car show? I'm not doing it.
No, no, no.
I'm saying.
I promoted his car show.
No, you didn't.
I just said Fuel Fest.
You said a couple pieces
and cut it short.
I ain't never heard
of this before.
That's the first time
I heard of this.
Fuel Fest.
If that was your car event,
you'd give niggas
two paragraphs.
Fuel Fest.
I'm saying.
This weekend
at the New Jersey
Motorsports Park,
what time should people be there? Jersey Motorsports Park. What time should people be there?
Jersey Motorsport Park.
Yes.
I do this event every year.
We do about 10 of them a year called Fuel Fest.
Go to fuelfest.com.
Get your tickets.
12 and under get in free.
It's drifting, drag racing, DJ music live.
It's basically Coachella.
Hey.
With all cars.
Yeah, all right.
Yeah.
Who the DJ?
You heard what he just said?
Yeah, I did.
You heard what he just said?
Yeah.
Okay.
Tell them the reason I said it.
Because you hating on people's cars?
No, man.
What you saying?
They already told us why.
DJ Envious.
Coachella C-Fast.
We had the name first, Coachella.
And they sent us
a cease and desist on that.
And then we started seeing you
on the air talking about it.
I said,
that letter's coming.
I know we did.
It ain't coming.
Yeah, I know we got it.
We never got to the point
where we ever printed out
one sign that said that.
Oh, yeah.
But yeah,
we was like,
yeah, we about to.
And them niggas was like,
hey, know no the you not
and and we shut that thing so yeah it's the name why you ain't called me and say your brother i'm let me warn you before you feel like it because i know you got it yeah all right well
let's get under let's get a record play some records man thank you jess because i'm blocked
tyree's got an album coming out come on what record what record you want to play what record
you want to hear tyree well the record that i want to well we gotta we got can we transition Tyrese got an album coming out Come on What record you wanna play? What record you wanna hear Tyrese?
Well the record that I wanna Well we gotta
Can we transition into the album?
Yeah let's do it
Cause y'all been
You know now we been up in the
Cool Miami shit
Beautiful
Your beard is definitely
Getting chopped before I go
And I'm definitely about to rub
Some of that dark skin makeup
Off your motherfucking face
Yeah good
Cause this nigga
I definitely see the makeup
I know the difference
Between the dark skin
Versus the light skin.
You like, yo, I got to
get that balance because half of my shit
is looking very Drake-ish.
What do you want to play, man?
What do you want to play?
I want to play Love Transactions.
Love Transactions.
Is this love?
Is this love or just a transaction?
Okay.
I hope this is love. No, no, no'all got to listen. Is this love or just a transaction? Okay. Yeah.
I hope this is love.
No, no, no.
We're not talking about you, man.
Yeah.
See, that's the problem.
What?
Always got to be about you.
I just said I hope this is love.
No, nigga, I'm talking about-
I hope this ain't a transactional relationship.
Okay.
And I don't have to just be all about romantic.
I get what you say.
I like that, though.
We're not-
Romance and me and you and me don't go in the same sentence
But also you have to see how that would
Definitely piss an ex off
Okay moving on
Is this love or just a
Transaction
As I was sitting in the room
In the courthouse in the courtroom
That realization
That this person
Couldn't have ever loved me
based on what I've seen her become in the process of this divorce.
Damn.
That neither one of y'all should never, ever experience in your life.
Do you think you did anything wrong?
Absolutely.
But he didn't cheat. Me and my wife, ex-wife, woke up to the news on September 11th
that I abused my daughter because I spanked her
with my right hand on top of her butt directly on top of her pants.
Second time I ever spanked her in my life.
And then that's when all that shit went down.
So me and my wife, we was up there with the care bears.
We had no problems.
Everything about our vibe and energy, chemistry and magic,
it was all everything that I had prayed for.
I was experiencing an answer prayer.
And I knew that I was going to get married and be married for the rest of my life.
Like I literally convinced myself, yeah, I'm going to be gray and old
and I'm going to have to eat mashed potatoes and coleslaw
because all these teeth are going to be gone.
I'm going to be married that long.
Like I was in it.
And so for my whole thing to just kind of happen the way it happened and I was in Jersey
filming uh with John Malkovich and as the arguments and the disagreements happened which actually
happened from me shooting two music videos and one of them featured her did it with Rick Ross
called Black Excellence so she said your family don't
matter we ain't been having sex you ain't giving me no attention no energy and i just said i'm i'm
so sorry we were just in quarantine for 10 straight months there was not a flight a call an email
there was nothing going on in the world. The whole world shut down.
It was 24 hours, seven days a week, us.
And I knew and she knew because we talked about it.
God literally pressed that pause button on the world,
but specifically the pause button on our marriage
because we needed time to reconnect after the devil came in
to try and create a level of
disconnection in our marriage that most marriages wouldn't be able to survive,
especially only a year in.
We're married for a year.
We wake up to accusations from my ex.
Who the fuck has survived that?
Who wants to get to know what should we do?
How do we do?
It's like we just met.
We are in a honeymoon phase, and we woke up to that.
So fast forward, now you accusing me of shit
and putting it in court documents
as if you forgot what it was like to wake up to someone
putting shit in court documents.
It's not true.
So I don't know who she is So I don't know who she is.
I don't know who she became.
I realized that this was a woman that was very simple,
who I met in a $12 sundress and prided herself on being simple.
And I don't care about money, stars, celebrities.
I don't need to live and be around.
I'm a simple girl.
Now you want $20,000 a month
for a one-year-old.
Now you've hired three law firms
to try and knock my motherfucking head off.
My prenup,
my prenuptial agreement
was so detailed
and so extensive.
My lawyer whispered,
she had her own lawyer
to negotiate on her behalf.
My lawyer,
Tanya Mitchell Graham, said to me, I can't believe you got her to sign this.
And I said, well, the reason I got her to sign it is because she said to me specifically, this ain't mine.
That's your publishing.
Those are your cars.
It's your publishing. Those are your cars. It's your house. And if we ever separated because I didn't get in this for any of that,
I will sign every piece of paperwork that reflects that I don't want none of that.
To then want nothing more than to show a nigga that that's all she wants.
But the prenup should be ironclad, right?
Right.
They are doing everything it takes to crack the motherfucker.
And it's now three years into trying to crack.
See, you have a pre-nuptial.
Be prior to the nuptials.
Let's establish.
And then you got people who will do a post-nuptial.
We already got married.
Let's do the paperwork after we get married because we need to make sure
that since the money
didn't showed up
all of a sudden
and a lot of successes have,
let's put a post nuptial in play.
We really have no reason
to do a prenup.
So, yeah,
she's trying to crack the prenup,
trying to get $20,000 a month
for a one-year-old,
which my daughter is now four.
And so I have no idea who this person is.
That don't mean she never loved you, though, Ty.
That's a harsh thing to say.
Yeah, that's what I was saying.
How would you feel, Jess?
Okay.
If you were married to a person, you had a child,
and then you hear your ex say you never loved him.
That's the name of the song.
That would definitely not be true.
I mean, that's why I asked him, did he see any red flags?
I felt like you never felt like she really, really loved you?
Like at one point.
I never said that.
Okay.
You actually did.
You never think none of it was genuine up until I guess.
You gonna just.
You did say that.
Was any of it genuine to you?
The name of the song is
I Don't Think You Ever Loved Me
Yeah
You said you were sitting
In the courtroom
And I also was sitting
In the courtroom
And I said
As they're unpacking
Tax returns
And getting into
All this shit
And they trying to
Unpack
I'm like
She's just sitting there
Like this
And I'm like
Damn can you look at me
Right
Can you like
Your lawyer is so nasty In me right can you like your
lawyer is so nasty in this courtroom can you like it's like a sociopath like I'm feeling I don't
feel nothing for this person so I never I would never disrespect her and say I don't think at no
point did she ever love me right but there is no aspect of me right now with all that i've
seen and heard and all this shit that's going on in those paperwork and what happened in that
courtroom i can say i did nothing to you to create that okay like you should be able to say physical violence i got three chicks pregnant on the side
and love child and i i was on the road and smashing chicks on like what what did i do
that made you become that cheating is not the only thing that could land you in a divorce.
How many niggas you know that's raising somebody else's child that their husband had behind their back?
It happens every day.
That's when you committed to the duration.
You said, I don't like this.
But I know that my husband has so much more potential beyond the mistake that was made.
So at the end of the day i can't disown
the laughter the travel the moments and all that we had that would be you know that's like evil
to like act as if i didn't feel or i didn't feel that she felt something but i
have no idea who this person is and none of her friends recognize her either
so when y'all come at me on my timeline not y'all i'm talking about social media i want y'all to
understand something women have done an incredible job of normalizing, talking about their feelings, hurts, and vulnerabilities.
When a man does it,
we get shamed into silence.
Yo, yo, shut the fuck up, man.
Like, don't be putting
your shit all out there.
Motherfucker,
if somebody had gave Mary J. Blige
that advice to not be putting
all her shit out there,
we wouldn't have Mary J. Blige.
Yeah, you're right.
But I will say this, though.
All of the women out here that's basically running all the charts in R&B
are all talking shit, in most cases, about men cheating, lying,
and whatever the fuck is going on.
So I know I'm a man.
I know I'm an alpha male.
So when I speak up on my shit, my truth, what I feel, what I've experienced,
and she's allowed to feel whatever she feel, because she's been at a nigga for two years
on our podcast.
You should.
I'm just now speaking.
So now I'm misogynistic.
Now I'm stalking.
Now I'm abused.
Now why?
You're in a brand new relationship, man.
Why you keep telling my first of all, making reference to feelings that I'm still trying
to emotionally navigate through from a marriage that just blew up in my face doesn't mean that I want her or desire her.
It just means that I'm still bleeding out loud.
But I don't think it's the music, though.
I don't think it's the music.
See, my question to you was, a lot of the stuff that Sam says and Charlamagne tells me the whole time, a lot of stuff that she says, nobody hears.
Yeah, I didn't know nothing about it.
They hear it when you say it.
Because you're bigger.
They hear it when you leave a comment about it.
I don't hear nothing that she says.
I don't hear none of the podcasts.
We don't get none of that information.
What I tell Envy all the time is that a lot of times things are bigger in our mind than they are actually in the world of people.
I agree with that.
The music, yes.
We love the music.
Put it in the music. Like the post that you did the other day that I was looking for, that you took down after I was looking for. I agree with that. The music, yes. We love the music. Put it in the music.
Like the post that you did the other day
that I was looking for,
that you took down,
that's what I was looking for.
I want to see you do the Mary J. Blige thing.
I didn't see that.
I only seen it when you said it.
But I love the Mary J. Blige thing.
Like he said, put it in the music.
Is that why you dressed like her
from the Not Gonna Cry video?
Oh, shut up, man.
No, that's not what he had on.
Remember, Kevin Hart was talking about it.
He looked like a Black Panther.
He did not look like Mary J. Blige.
No. When you had on the beret, you looked really nice. With the boots, you had on. Remember, Kevin Hart was talking about it. He looked like a Black Panther. He did not look like Margie Blige. No.
When he had on the beret, he looked really nice.
Yeah, with the boots.
He had the boots on.
Kevin Hart, please just know that I definitely was hot as a motherfucker with everything
that I was wearing.
Kevin Hart, I need you to know that that was the funniest shit ever.
Wow.
I was honored that you included me in your stand-up special but
I was suffering my nigga
this is what niggas didn't know the video that idea was CeeLo Green. Don't pull up that picture. Let me see. I got worse pictures
than that.
I got worse pictures than that.
Oh, classic.
He kept that shit on the whole time.
God damn.
The marches
in LA, it was
115. I was in Watts marching
in that same exact outfit.
Couple days later, we got on the plane and went out there for the George Floyd funeral.
May his whole soul rest in peace.
Still praying for his family.
Absolutely.
I had on the same exact outfit that I wore two days before that.
And then we had a camera guy following me around.
Oh, my God.
And all of that ended up in the legendary video with CeeLo Green.
So I didn't want to tell niggas in the middle of all of this emotional and vulnerable shit
going on, hey man, you see the camera guy right there?
I'm actually getting all of this real live, real footage because I'm shooting a video
with CeeLo Green called Legendary on behalf of Breonna Taylor, George Ford, Trayvon Martin, and Eric Garner,
which were all featured in the video.
So yeah, I was fucking blazing hot and did not want to wear that.
You said you got worse pictures than the one I got?
I got worse pictures and video.
He's not the same as I was wrong with you, man.
Nigga, fucked up.
No.
Can I see you at least?
Nigga, I was a furnace out that bitch.
Yeah, you definitely looked hot.
But you look good. You look like Mark J. You look like- You hear me, Alicia? Nigga, I was a furnace out that bitch. Yeah, you definitely looked hot. But you look good.
You look like Mary J.
You look like...
You look like Mary J.
All right.
Can we get up out of here?
Can we get into the record?
Tyrese look like Winnow Walker.
Stop.
It's Love Transaction, Black Ty, Tyrese, our brother.
We appreciate you for joining us.
We love you, Ty.
Hey, man.
Love Transaction.
Let's play the song.
Hold on, y'all.
Hold on, man.
Before we go, man.
It's fucked up.
First of all, I know I'm late, so I appreciate y'all staying this late.
I know you auditioning for SNL.
It's clear.
I got it.
What are you talking about, man?
I know what you're doing.
I'm just happy to see you.
I just wanted y'all to have one little piece of context before I go,
and I'm going to give it to you, and I'm going to get out of here.
All right.
Because what y'all just said was, whenever you jump out there
and you say whatever you're saying,
we don't know what she's saying,
so we just confused,
like why do you keep coming at this woman?
That's right.
Right?
That's what y'all just said, right?
That's true.
Okay, so.
You did breathe a lot of life into her YouTube.
You made a lot of people follow her YouTube.
No, she gonna get the followers she get,
and she gonna do whatever she do.
For me, I never wish any ill will or malicious intent towards
anybody I'm gonna tell my truth
and I'm gonna have somebody
to arrive at how they feel based on
who they decide to believe I don't want
nobody who used to work for me
with me who I used to date
I don't want nobody to fucking die
or go down but you gonna
get this work I'm not
gonna be sitting around this
motherfucker on the receiving end of people believing that I fucked over you and did you
dirty and did something behind your back and you painting that picture because you got a bunch of
women that maybe in their feelings are angry or bitter about experiences that they've had
and they now got you beating that drum it's like motherfucker people will believe
anybody that sounds convincing absolutely absolutely okay yeah so as soon as i could talk
i was like well no no no no hold on no no let's go on and clear this all the fuck up
nigga not only did you move out on your own i was actually in an airplane
flying home from jersey to fight for my marriage.
Because I heard that you was huffing and puffing.
I'm like, man, she ain't gonna leave.
Women get mad talking about leaving all the time.
It happens.
To then she find out I was on my way home, put a COVID mask on top of the ring camera and packed up all of her shit and left and never came back.
Wow.
Don't tell
niggas that and when i did change the locks which is true it was four days after they moved all i
was like this is actually a home invasion yeah you actually stole all the shit out of the house
and i don't know what you actually took that actually belonged to me versus belong to you
because i wasn't there and do you expect me to go back to Jersey to go finish making my movie and leave this
motherfucking mansion open oh yeah we forgot to go whatever you forgot will be
forgot because these motherfucking doors about to get changed I was about to show
you something man hold on I promise y'all can edit out all this little side talk because I know y'all got it.
Now we're leaving all this.
This is good.
Okay, hold on.
But I think you should know, you said you wore an outfit two days before Charlamagne
bought that last Wednesday.
He did.
He did.
He just re-ironed it and put the crease back in the shoulder tie.
Wow.
The commitment to the crease.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Then you throw a little chain on, a little necklace.
Jess, I love you.
Thank you.
I love you, too. Keeping these niggas on their game, I swear.
They paint they picture, boy.
Yeah, they do.
Oh, man.
Okay, put that little necklace on.
Yeah, so anyway, I can't even find it.
Maybe it wasn't meant to be.
Oh, my God.
But I was about to show y'all.
You did all of that and can't find it?
Sorry, I explained too fucking much.
You can't find it?
It's been an hour and 20 minutes, guys.
No, I'm scrolling too fast.
Can I find it?
Will you sing now? Okay, thank you guys. No, I'm scrolling too fast. Can I find it? Will you sing now?
Okay, thank you.
Thank you.
I'm scrolling too fast.
This interview longer than the Fast and Furious movie.
It is.
Hey, yo, you are so dumb.
I love it.
I love it.
Okay, I'm about to find it.
What is it?
What are you trying to show us?
I'm just trying to show y'all why I have been as vocal as I've been about certain things
because the gaslighting and manipulation has been so real.
Oh, no, we get it now.
I mean, she's been talking, but we haven't seen what we're saying.
Okay, so this is what I'm going to do because this is a pre-interview and this ain't live.
What I'm going to do is I'm going to send you the clip.
All right, y'all, so listen.
I'm going to play y'all this clip, and I want y'all to know. I want y'all to listen to this clip however way you want send you the clip. All right, y'all. So listen, I'm a play artist clip. And I
want y'all to know, I want y'all to listen to this clip, however way you want, because you're grown.
But the way I'm listening to this clip is she is literally gaslighting. And, you know, they always
say, not me, but they always say that a lot of women lack accountability right and they expect us
to fuck up and fess up yeah but it's like yo every relationship that ends is
not always the man's fault no right so I'm about to play this clip and when I
seen this clip and it was sent to me I was like how the fuck did you do that to
me and now you describing what men don't have when you break
their heart and they fucked up and why a lot of niggas are suicidal or end up going crazy because
they spiral into a dark place because they don't have anybody in their life that could actually
love them into a better them right so we're we're going to play the clip right now.
All right.
Listen to this shit.
I hate this guy.
I hate him.
Man, you is an amazing actor.
Like, I swear to God.
I swear to God he is, y'all. What the fuck? That motherfucker got me intrigued. I'm doing the same thing. Amazing I'm in my mind I'm like man she going in
I said post man I said I'm gonna send you the clips so you can run the clip
yeah and then I mean I'm not gonna be here but so you can run the clip and then I'm not gonna be here
but y'all can go ahead
and rumble whatever
y'all wanna talk about
but anyway man
listen
everybody should know
that
I thank God
in closing
cause I know we gotta go
thank y'all for the platform
and the opportunity
thank you for coming my brother
absolutely
my album is entitled
Beautiful Pain
and I'm not gonna give you the rest of the title but it's entitled Beautiful Pain And I'm not going to give you the rest of the title
But it's called Beautiful Pain
Right now I release a song featuring Lenny Kravitz
Available on all streaming platforms
I would love your support
It's called I Don't Think You Ever Loved Me
And my new joint that I just dropped last week
Is called Love Transaction.
Beautiful Pain is the first live album I've ever done.
It's a total of 20 songs.
I'm also finishing up my book, which is called Blackmail of the Blackmail.
Oh, shit.
And I'm also going to be releasing a four-part documentary
for the making of the entire album.
And I want y'all to know specifically,
I have one thing in mind.
When you grown and you listen to real music
that really affects you
and really activates your vulnerabilities,
you could either use that as a weapon or you can use it and say,
this song has forced me and my wife to have a dialogue or a conversation
around some things that we keep brushing under the rug and this and that.
And so, you know, and so I am enamored.
I'm a work in progress, but I am enamored with the Lord Jesus Christ,
and I would never do an album to try and break people up
or discourage them from taking the full journey in their marriage.
That's not who I am.
If that's who I was, we would have met the way we met.
I'm a sucker for love and you can't
expect me to not be in tune with my vulnerabilities and my emotion I'm an
R&B singer yeah I've been tapped in since the beginning of time I don't care
how I throw y'all from me being loud and vocal and outspoken and my alpha don't
confuse my alpha with me not being vulnerable and I'm gonna give y'all one
example that represents my
vulnerabilities and then i gotta go because i know y'all do the reason why i'm as loud and as
i've never said this publicly the reason that i'm as loud and as vocal as i am i'm like an aggressive
pit bull that's dark barking behind the gate when you walk up the street.
You'd be like, whoa, whoa, shit.
Because my heart is so big and I love so deep and I go above and beyond even if I don't understand the assignment.
You can't get me to not be that for every friend that I have. So when I bark and I'm screaming and I'm hollering,
it's my way of trying to scare people away
because I know if you open that gate,
I'm going to love you for the rest of your life.
That's who I am.
Did I confuse you at all?
No, I didn't know if you opened the gate,
the people were going to bite you.
No, no, no, no.
We've seen footage online and we've had
experiences where the dog
is very aggressive behind the gate.
Right.
But then when you open up the gate,
you can open up the gate
and the dog is walking up
and he's just like, you know.
So, I
put my thoughts out there
and I put my feelings out there and it appears to be what it appears to be.
People may not like it.
Other people love it.
Other people I've had, you know, and I give God all the glory.
The amount of people over the years that have walked up to me and said, bro, you going as far as you did into those specifics and details.
Bro, I was going to kill myself.
Because like I never thought I would meet you.
I'm here to say thank you because most of us feel, carry,
and we're all trying to emotionally process.
And I know it's popular to speak to mental health.
And I'm so blessed by you and everybody else that have been beating that
drum and normalizing the dialogue but just maybe God is using me to normalize the dialogue
about when you when you lose a child
why can't a man talk about it right as if the man didn't create the child. I never lost a child, by the way. But if you if you if your marriage goes up in smoke, it doesn't matter who's at fault.
Why us as men? Why can't we talk about what we're feeling? Right.
I seen this man go all out. And envy made me commit even harder to do whatever I could do to try and step in.
And I said, you know what?
When your wife is mad at you, I'm like, Envy, you know I'm not saying anything
any different than you're saying, but it's because it's coming from me
that your wife is more receptive to what's being said
because she feels a way about you.
Right now.
He just mad at him in the moment.
In the moment, yeah.
So it was, that's, but for me, it's us as men,
we're not comfortable with bleeding out loud.
So I want the world to know I am not misogynistic.
I have no agenda to beat down that woman with my words.
This is my truth.
You know, like Mary J and all of the legends.
That you dress like.
Shut up.
All of the legends that have been able to do these songs
and release these songs and have audiences.
Aiko and
you know
Summer Walker arenas are sold out
with them going on stage
Jasmine Sullivan
to talk about that shit
that they feel, that they've lived, that they've
experienced. That's R&B. But a man
can't do it. They want
the man to sing about love
and fucking and sex and freak shit.
That's our box.
Now, if you're going to jump out there and start talking about how this woman cheated on you, lied, did you dirty, fucked over you after your bag, doing whatever the case may be.
Man, you being massaged and this and that.
Why don't you move on?
I mean, the comments is like,
man, ain't you in a new relationship?
So it's so many different angles
that niggas is coming at me about.
You don't think Jasmine is in another relationship?
Right.
So Tyrese should be able to do a show
and men come support him and express our feelings.
Men and women.
Without being called a simp,
without being called a suckerp without being called a sucker
all right or being told to shut the up yeah and stop putting your business out there yeah
if it keep that same energy for everybody jasmine sullivan who i love can release an album hotels
about a that cheated on her did her dirty broke heart, and she's in a whole nother relationship
with a whole nother man,
and the pain that that ex did
helped and inspired this whole album.
Why can't she do it and I can't
without me being pinned as Masaja Diggins?
I'm gonna tell everybody who feels that way,
shut the fuck up.
I'm not gonna stop.
And you ain't never gonna be able to convince me that because these are my feelings that I'm beating that woman down.
These are my feelings.
If I'm beating that woman down, then they beating all the men down.
But somehow the man getting beat down, y'all are selling out arenas to it.
Stop playing, bro.
I'm a grown ass man.
That's Tyrese.
Beautiful pain on the way.
Beautiful pain on the way.
And it's the Breakfast Club.
Play Love Transaction.
Please.
Tyrese!
You know he don't support me.
Now let's play it.
I'm the one that said let's play it.
He's the only DJ in this motherfucker.
That is true.
You on SNL.
This nigga's a DJ.
Can we end the sermon now?
You look like a sweating pastor, man.
The church is over.
We want to go get some brunch.
Can we end the sermon now?
Tyrese, ladies and gentlemen,
it's the Breakfast Club.
Why you ain't give me some of your makeup?
The Breakfast Club.
Hey, guys.
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