The Breakfast Club - Uncle Murda interview and more

Episode Date: December 19, 2017

12/19- Today on the show we had Leonard Grant, also known as Uncle Murda stop by, where he spoke about his unlike with Lavar Ball, claims Mase is going to hell and more. Moreover, we flashed back to w...hen legendary comedian Dave Chappelle stopped by and spoke about his fan base, being non apologetic and more. Also, we flashed back to when Charlamagne gave himself "Donkey of the Day" for once being part of "rape culture."  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:00 Collectively known as Breakfast Club, bitches! This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. So you better have the same energy. Jay from Virginia, what's up? Oh, my God. Hey, guys.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Angela Yee, Charlamagne, Envy. Oh, my God. I've been trying to get to you guys for like a long, long time. Oh, my God. You made it. All right. So I sent you, Ask Yee, an email about, you know, me trying to set up a podcast and everything. Listen, I'm bisexual, I am black, and I'm proud of both of that. And I've tried to start a movement on social media, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:02:54 internet trolls trying to block my shine and all that. So I just want to share that, you know, bisexuality is not a myth. It's none of that. It's real, and I am living proof. Who the hell said bisexuality was a myth? Who said that? Well, no one really said that, Charlamagne. It's just that there are certain people,
Starting point is 00:03:11 even especially on social media and on the internet, they treat it as if it's like a joke. So that's why. Let me ask you this. When you're dating a woman, do you tell her that you're bisexual? You also deal with men? Yes, I do. As long as you're straight up and honest,
Starting point is 00:03:26 that's all that matters. In your professional opinion, who gives the best fellatio, men or women? What do you prefer? Well, listen. You see, you talk about people taking it like a joke. When I ask you a serious question, you laugh. Okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Only because I get that a lot. Okay. Just so you know. It's just, I mean, it's whatever. I mean, whoever I'm dealing with, I mean, there's no competition at the very end of the day. To me, it's whatever. I mean, whoever I'm dealing with, I mean, there's no competition at the very end of the day to me. So you're just greedy then?
Starting point is 00:03:49 It just depends on the person I'm showing. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm going to have to stop you right there, dog. I respect you. I follow you and all that, but I got to stop you right there. Bisexual people are not greedy, dog. That's the most popular misconception. We're not greedy.
Starting point is 00:04:02 We just have no preference. Like, people have no preference for race. People have no preference for gender, dog. That's what most popular misconception. We're not greedy. We just have no preference. Like, people have no preference for race. People have no preference for gender, dog. That's what I'm saying. If Charlamagne had to pick one, which one would you suggest to him? Wait, pardon? If Charlamagne had to pick one. Don't answer that question, bro.
Starting point is 00:04:15 I bet you used to love Rich Merman. I ain't got no type. It's not a matter of choice, people. It's just a matter of, you know, who you like is who you like. And that's the very end of the day. Who is in my bed is none of y'all business. It's mine. Well, don't call up the radio telling us about your bed room activities then.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Goodness gracious. Yeah, who is in my bed ain't none of y'all business, but you the one calling up here volunteering that you buy and want to start podcasting everything. Get it off your chest. Sean, why you mad? Why am I mad? Because the motherfucking squirters out here.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Well, you mad at your woman because she squirts? Oh, no. I'm talking about some bitches on 6th Street that I pulled tonight. Were you mad that they squirt? What'd you say? Squirters? What'd you say? Alright, so I got off and I got a little squirter
Starting point is 00:04:55 that I brought back to my car and she done spiderwebs all over my car. You brought a prostitute. That's a prostitution. You know you paid for a prostitute. Nah, it wasn't no prostitute. She got me. I'm going know you paid for a prostitute. Nah, nah. It wasn't no prostitute. She got me. I'm going to be honest with you, bro. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:08 If it's your woman or your wife or your man girl and she squirts, then that's exactly what she did. She squirted. But if it's just some random chick, she peed all in your car, bro. Sorry, bro. Your car got peed in. Hey, Charlemagne, I heard you. I know that's true.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I know that's true. I know that's true. You know what I'm talking about? Charlemagne, I heard you. I know that's true, but I mean, this is a drug for those who gave the body. You know what I'm talking about? Charlamagne, the God. Yeah, God bless all you brothers that's partaking in weed this early in this morning. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:05:33 Still on a high from your pills from last night. Definitely high. Soothe all the drug addicts that listen to The Breakfast Club. We appreciate you, man. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you're upset or if you're blessed, you can call us at any time.
Starting point is 00:05:44 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake up, wake up. Wake your ass up. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Card A. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:58 What's up, bro? Why you mad this morning? Man, I'm mad because my little brother had me drop him off. He said he was going to a friend's house. So I go to the store or whatever when I drop him off. So on my way back, I go to pick him up. It's like 20 cops out there and somebody running behind him trying to beat him up. He tried breaking somebody's crib, yo.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Your little brother? Wow. My little brother. You should whoop his ass. Yo, when he get out, I'm going to whoop his ass for real. Yo, Charlamagne, man? I'm right here, bro. Yo, Charlamagne, you my boy. I just, bro. Yo, Charlamagne, you my boy.
Starting point is 00:06:26 I just got done reading your book. Hey, thank you, man. Black privilege opportunity comes to those who created it. It's available now. Hey, listen, man. I don't think you should whip your little brother's ass because you never know what's going to happen to him in jail. His butt might be a little tender. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:06:39 He might come home with a little tender butt. No, you need to whoop his ass. Don't go whipping his. No, hold on. The thing is, yo, he just got out not even a week ago. How old is he? He's 18. Where's your dad?
Starting point is 00:06:49 Your dad around? His dad's around? Nah, his dad's up in Philly where we from. Well, this is what you got to say to him. Please say this to him. Be like, yo, you must got a boyfriend in there because you keep wanting to go back. You got to say that to him. That's going to piss him off.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I'm going to say it. I'm going to say it. He might try to swing on me, but I'm going to say it. You got to say that. How old are you? I'm 24. You ain't scared of him, right? Nah, I to say it. You got to say that. How old are you? I'm 24. You ain't scared of him, right? No, I'll be knocking him out.
Starting point is 00:07:08 All right, cool. All right, just making sure. This sounds like ATL part two. You sound like T.I. Little Big Brother. Little Big Brother. Little Big Brother want to check Little Brother out there in the streets. Wild.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Hello, who's this? Man, this is J-Dawg, man. Sherman the God, man. You, God damn, bro. You are a legend, dude. Let me tell you, you are a legend. Who the hell is Sherman the God? Man, you, man. Charlemagne the God, man. You, goddamn, bro. You are a legend, dude. Let me tell you, you are a legend. Who the hell is Charlemagne the God? Man, you, man.
Starting point is 00:07:28 You are Charlemagne the God, man. Charlemagne the God. Man, come on, man. Hey, hey, ask Angelique. Boy, I be dogging you, clowning you because I want you to come out and play some ball with me and my boys. I be calling you a buster because I want you to come play ball, bro. You said you want me to play with you and your boys' balls.
Starting point is 00:07:43 What happened? This is getting awkward. I know this tank T-Series got y'all a little gassed up, but I don you to come play ball, bro. You said you want me to play with you and your boy's balls. What happened? This is getting awkward. I know this is getting teasing. I got y'all a little gassed up, but I don't get down like that. Gosh. That's a little awkward. Hello, who's this? Good morning.
Starting point is 00:07:51 This is Shakita. Hey, Lakita. You mad or blessed this morning? I'm mad this morning. So I just left the gym. I was feeling all good. And my sister, you're going to come. I was talking to my mom.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Where you at? And I'm like, I'm just leaving the gym. What's wrong? I'm talking to my son. Oh, hurry up with the car. You know I got to go to school and do this program. That's right. I'm on to my mom. Where you at? And I'm like, I'm just leaving the job. What's wrong? I'm talking to my son. Oh, hurry up with the car. You know I got to go to school and do this program. That's right. I'm going to buy my own car.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Your child is focused, all right? He need his ride to school. He's pressing you. That's right. She need to focus some of that money for that part-time job she got on this car. You want to rush me in my car? And you're done. You must have left the gym feeling single and child free.
Starting point is 00:08:24 At least she want to go to school. No, not single, definitely not. Need my husband to come through with that mortgage. But that's definitely a little child free. Well, guess what? She got a harsh reminder this morning. You better take that girl to school. Thank you, Mama.
Starting point is 00:08:37 All right. Tell them why you mad or tell them why you blessed. 800-585-1051. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. My name is DJ Envy Angelique. Charlamagne Tha God.
Starting point is 00:08:51 We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. I still call him Mert. His name is Mert. If he's calling Mert, I'm going to call him Mert. Lenny Grant is in the building. Thank you, Yee. Thank you, Yee.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Thank you. That guy, Lenny Grant. Thank you. I seen something yesterday where it said you just made millions doing that Bitcoin and cryptocurrency. They jumped out the window. I definitely didn't make millions yet. But I was in early
Starting point is 00:09:12 on Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, and all that. Word. I been got the word on that a little while ago. How long ago did you invest?
Starting point is 00:09:18 Who gave you the word on that? I got a scammer friend. So, you know, he used to, you know, you had to use Bitcoins back in the days to buy all the pieces. That's how the, he used to, you know, you had to use bitcoins back in the days to buy all the pieces.
Starting point is 00:09:26 That's how the scammers used to buy their pieces. Really? So he used to talk about bitcoin all the time. I need bitcoin. I need bitcoin. Give me some money
Starting point is 00:09:32 for bitcoin. I'm like, bitcoin for what? Like, that's how I get the pieces. So then, you know, I found out like, okay, this is real like...
Starting point is 00:09:38 Let me invest. Yeah, this is things people really doing. So, you know, he got down with it. My boy White got down with it too. He bought a little bit more than me.
Starting point is 00:09:45 He came all the way up. He should have been in that article. How long ago was this? This was about two years ago. Oh, yeah. Y'all got it then. But Bitcoin's been around since way before that. It's been around for about five, six years.
Starting point is 00:09:56 It's been around for a long time. How much you buy? Yeah, it's been around for a long time. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, he's trying to get to it. I'm talking about Bitcoin. Christmas time, family members. That's a good story though, man. Finally, some scamming in Brooklyn
Starting point is 00:10:10 led to something positive. It led to something positive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That before a guy that used to be named Uncle Murder. You know what I'm saying? It's good for Lenny Grant.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Definitely. There you go. Is this your third name change? No, second. Because they tried Uncle M before. They tried Uncle M. That definitely wasn't working.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Uncle M didn't work. Yeah, they tried U.M. for a minute or two. That didn't work. People started saying, um, I'm like, you know, we ain't going to do that. But Lindsey Grant is, um, it's my name anyway, so it feel good. That's the name on the checks. Yeah, so it feel good, man.
Starting point is 00:10:34 I saw you in your gear as a, what were you, a security officer? Yeah, set out to 50, but he actually had me do my first movie with Bruce Willis. I wasn't a security officer. I was protecting the money. Okay. Yeah, the army truck. You had a gun and everything. Yeah, I had the gun and all that.
Starting point is 00:10:48 So I felt a little bit more important than just a regular security guard. I had to make sure you wasn't a flashlight cop. Yeah, no flashlight cop. I was crap. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:10:55 How was doing your first movie? That was dope. I had a little experience from doing Money and Valance and all that, but as far as the real actual movie set, it was real dope, man.
Starting point is 00:11:03 I even had my name on the chair and all that. Like, I killed Uncle Murda on the chair. I said, okay, we lit. And to be with such a veteran actor, too. Definitely. Bruce Willis. I forgot the other guy from The Purge
Starting point is 00:11:12 who was just in The Purge. He was in it, too, one of the main actors. So, yeah, it was dope. Why do you always want to get hardcore criminal rappers to play law enforcement? I know. Do they do that to prove y'all can act? Definitely.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Or just, I feel like, to be in control. Like, all right, we know you a bad guy, but look, now you got to do this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Take it or leave it, kind of. So I definitely took it. That's how they do it with Ice-T. Ice-T did Cop Killer back in the day. Now he made a lot of money playing the cop.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Yeah, look, he low on order. He's still doing it. You think you could do something like that? For the check, why not? Absolutely. Yeah, for the check, I could, you know, switch it up. Now, you know, we had LeVar Ball up here the other day. That's the father,
Starting point is 00:11:47 right? Yeah. LeAngeline LeMelo up here also, but you're not a fan of Lonzo Ball at all. Definitely not. You know what? Hold on, let me read the tweet. Lonzo Ball, he a bum. That's probably because Lonzo had on the Nas Illmatic shirt. You know what? I think he's a bum. I heard
Starting point is 00:12:04 what he had said about Nas when they was trying to, I think he tried to say like the Migos. He's 19. But I get that. But also, when it comes to basketball, I think he's overhyped. I don't think he's putting in that work. People still trying to say like give him a chance so he got more learning to do. Nah, it's just he ain't getting it right.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I think he's overhyped as a basketball player. And I think the sneakers is trash. He's a rookie, but I mean you got a lot of rookies that came in and handled their business. Kobe averaged seven points his first year in the league. Oh, you're a Lonzo Ball fan. I get it. No, no, no, no. I'm a fan of black entrepreneurship, though.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Like, I don't understand why we're so upset that this man is saying, the system, I want to do my own thing. As far as with the sneakers? Yeah. I wasn't mad at him for that, but I mean, I don't think the sneakers is hot. No, they're not hot. Exactly. So it's not like just because there's a million black people trying to do something we're not gonna just support it just because it's a black-owned business at least let it be something that we actually like i think in that situation we should
Starting point is 00:12:55 and i'm gonna tell you why because he can change the complexion of the nba forever like he should have been mad guys that have been billionaires off their sneakers what he said is real they give you 20 million dollars and they're gonna to make $200 million off you. You're right about that part. So I like that he's shaking up the system from now on. But you don't like what he did with Nas. No, definitely don't. I definitely don't like what he said about Nas.
Starting point is 00:13:15 No, definitely not. How do you feel about when LeBron said he was the king of New York? I mean, I get what he was saying. You know, basketball. He feel like he always have a good game at the Garden. So I get that. No, man. Cole got him back at Cleveland. Cole got him back at Cleveland. Why y'all do that, man? He know basketball. He feel like he always have a good game at the Garden. So I get that. No, man. Home got him back at Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Home got him back at Cleveland. That man stood in the middle of the Garden. While we giving him a pass like that? Yes. While he's in the past. We're not giving him a pass. We're saying we understand he always has a good game at the Garden. King of New York, brother.
Starting point is 00:13:39 King of New York. Don't you try to get Lenny Grant to go on Twitter and say F LeBron. That's what they get for not letting Charles Oakley in the building. Because Charles Oakley would have smacked him or something. And then I would have definitely put that in the wrap-up. You know, so, yeah. Oh, yeah. You do have the wrap-up's about to come out.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Oh, definitely. Is it done? 70% done. What are some things you're talking about? Things are still more happening. Because, you know, the white boy just finessed everybody off the money act. Like he was getting bullied and things of that nature. He was a racist white boy.
Starting point is 00:14:04 So I had to save some things. I know I couldn't just wrap it up yet. What else happened this year? There's a lot. A lot of Trump shit. There's a lot. Yeah, a lot of Trump. I mean.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Yeah, Omarosa just got fired. I'm disappointed in, you know, the accusations on my boy Russell Simmons. I'm disappointed in Usher. I'm disappointed in Bobby V. I'm disappointed in R. Kelly. Oh, I forgot about Bobby V. Oh, don't worry. I'm going to remind you.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Okay, okay. Let's I forgot about Bobby V. Oh, don't worry. I'm going to remind you. Okay, okay. Let's back up for a second. Why are we disappointed in Bobby Valentino? We're disappointed because he ain't come out the closet but got caught coming at it. You know what I mean? So it's like... He might not have not...
Starting point is 00:14:38 He said he didn't know. Huh? He didn't know. He knew. He knew. He knew. Okay, now what about with Usher? We don't know for sure that he has herpes. You know my problem with Usher? He never said he didn't.. He knew. He knew. He knew. He knew. Okay, now what about with Usher? We don't know for sure that he has herpes.
Starting point is 00:14:45 You know my problem with Usher? He never said he didn't. That is true. So that's the problem with me and Usher right now because I actually grew up to Usher music, man. Like, you know, like my first son is here courtesy of Usher and some of the music he was making back then. So did that make you look at him differently?
Starting point is 00:14:59 Yeah, I'm just upset with him. Like, why not come out and say I don't got it? Because he might have it. Yeah, but so that's why he's going under the bus. All right, look, all right. Or he may not want to address it because it's a lie. Some people just choose to ignore it. No, you don't ignore that.
Starting point is 00:15:11 But, all right, they say what? One in three people have herpes? So that means two people in here have herpes. Oh, man. No, in the whole room. There's two people in here. You know what I mean? So you talk to him.
Starting point is 00:15:23 If you look around hard enough, you can figure it you look around hard enough You can figure it out Envy You can really figure it out I just took my physical I'm clean Plus honestly Nobody cares about the truth When they lie more entertainers You can say you don't got it
Starting point is 00:15:32 Like nah We'd rather us To have herpes right now It's a better story It's a better story It's a better story We have more with Uncle Murdo When we come back
Starting point is 00:15:41 Keep it locked It's The Breakfast Club Good morning The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We have Uncle Murda in the building.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Yee. What about Tyrese? Did he make it in? Tyrese definitely made it. Gotta give him some bars. Yeah, he talking about he getting five mil from Willie J. He's holding the way you did. Now, the wrap-up gonna be fun this year, man.
Starting point is 00:16:07 You know, I actually was arguing with Mad Skills yesterday, man. Yeah, I saw you. He was coming for his. About what? I know you argue every year around this time. Yeah, no, but no, he actually, like, kind of got a little aggressive, sway posted something up on the gram
Starting point is 00:16:19 of me talking about the wrap-up, and then I see, like, Mad Skills said something like, yeah, look at this kid. Like, look, said something like, yeah, look at this kid. Like, look, I'm like, yo, what?
Starting point is 00:16:27 So, me and him just start going back. I'm like, yeah, I took your shit home. Yeah, you know how Brooklyn do. I took your shit.
Starting point is 00:16:32 And what'd he say back? He said, who's this? Wow. How long you been doing it now? Like, four years? This gonna be,
Starting point is 00:16:38 yeah, this gonna be the fourth year. The fourth year. And then, I mean, yours made noise because other people tried to do it, but it just didn't work like that.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Exactly. I told him, I said, yo, you got the PG version, man. I'm like the rated R version. That's a fact. Like, he the creator.
Starting point is 00:16:48 It's all good. Salute to him, man. So when is this Lenny Grant story coming out? The Lenny Grant story probably going to come out around 2018, 4. Something like that. You know, we just dropped Don't Come Outside, DCO, the mixtape. We just dropped that. So we just preparing for Lenny Grant, DCO, the mixtape. We just dropped that. So we're just preparing for Lenny Grant.
Starting point is 00:17:06 But yeah, around 18, 4. Is everything working out with G-Unit? Man, it's been great, man. I went on tour. I've been in and out the country. They let me go to Canada with my felonies, courtesy of 50. We didn't have to call Drake. Yeah, so far, it's been great.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Did my first movie. I'm about to shoot another movie next month. 50 got me doing it. So far, it's been dope. Great experience with G-Unit next month. 50 got me doing it. So, so far, it's been dope. Great experience with G-Unit, man. It's not a traditional indie, right? What you mean?
Starting point is 00:17:30 Like, as far as, like, I mean, they're a major brand. Oh, yeah, facts, facts. No, it's an indie. 50 paid for everything himself. That's what I'm saying. That's an indie. That's the part I like
Starting point is 00:17:37 about 50, too. It's like, I mean, he said he gonna do something. He's just gonna do it. Ain't no bullshit. Just hit him just now. I just seen on the paper that he got eight figures
Starting point is 00:17:44 for a Stars deal. And I said, yo your christmas is coming around man you're gonna drop something off now love and hip-hop i'm sure they approached you several times yeah why didn't you ever do love and hip-hop um you know what i was entertaining it when it first when it first came out for a minute i was entertaining because i thought it could be um something to promote the music but as But as the show just kept going on, I just felt like, you know what,
Starting point is 00:18:07 this probably wouldn't be the best thing for me. I don't feel like it turned out good for the rappers. I feel like the females come up more off that show than the actual dudes.
Starting point is 00:18:16 I'm trying to think what dudes have come up off of that. Maybe Stevie J. He might be like the only one I think that ran off of it that people got on
Starting point is 00:18:23 with Stevie J. But other than that, I thought it was kind of hard for the fellas to come up with a show. Ray J. Pat got a little lame. Ray J. Pat good out here. Pat profile went up. Black Love.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Ray J. Yeah. Yeah. You mean just as far as rap though? Yeah, as far as the rappers, I don't think the rappers need to be on Love & Hip Hop like that. Not if you still trying to do certain things. If you still think you can make an impact or you still got some type of relevancy in this music game, I don't think you need to be.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Well, you know, that show is supposed to be more about the women. Yeah, so I think it's for them. They get to come up with more. But then maybe
Starting point is 00:18:51 if your woman wanted to just, you know, get out there and do it, it would be you doing it for her to be able to. No, no, no, no love of hip hop for her. No love of hip hop for her.
Starting point is 00:19:00 She's actually working on a book right now, so yeah, shout out to my lady. What's that book going to be about? It's called Naked Soul. So it's about a relationship,
Starting point is 00:19:08 and then the dude winds up cheating with one of her friends that had an STD, and it was just a whole... That's not a true life story, right? No, it's not a true life story. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no. We don't know Usher. What are you and Skills collab at the end of the year? What's that?
Starting point is 00:19:30 You know, it's crazy. Clark Kent actually tried to put that together. But I guess, because I guess he told me, like, Kim and Skills was like, you know, he said, that's one of my close friends. Clark Kent actually called me. Like, yo, Skills is one of my close friends. And I actually told him, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:44 he told me, like, yo, Murda yo Murda you got like the rated R version He got the PG version But I feel like y'all need to actually put something together And I'm like yo let him know I'm with that I said yo I wouldn't mind doing that That'd be dope, this is after the first year I did it I guess Skills felt a different way Yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:19:59 He felt like no this dude is taking what I'm doing I only wait once a year to do something And this dude want to come over here and try to take it. I ain't sharing shit. Gil's a teacher, though. He's a professional college teacher now, right? Yeah, I think he teaches like college or something now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:13 But you understand him being upset about it. No, I understand why he mad. I mean, do I give a fuck? No, but I get why he mad. Yeah, I don't know. I saw you say Mase is going to hell. Yeah, I think Mase is going to hell. Why do you think he's going to hell?
Starting point is 00:20:27 I think he's going to hell because you're playing around with the people like that. Like, I don't really think his heart is into preaching, like, really like that. Like, don't do that if you're not serious like that. I think it really was a hustle to him. I don't think he really takes it that serious. So I feel like when you play with a higher power like that, man, I don't think it's nothing good going to come out of that out of that man now you've also talked about your kids listening to your music right yeah I'd rather them listen to Kendrick Lamar my son is um 17 and my daughter's
Starting point is 00:20:56 eight yeah that's the oldest that's the one that was uh sexting you by accident yeah yeah text me about in the box and all that then try to clean it it up. Oh, Dad, that wasn't for you. Dude, that was a mistake, Dad. I don't really the box, Dad. I was just playing with her. I'm like... Well, that could y'all be making, right? Nah, pretty big. Boy, I tell you, this guy here.
Starting point is 00:21:17 I was trying to remember why you thought that was a bad thing. Nah, yeah, I mean... You just embarrassed him, that's all. I used to feel a little funny about it, but for him, yeah, no, wait. Don't just be out there in the box. Slow down. Wait, make sure it's the right woman for you down there.
Starting point is 00:21:29 You know what I mean? Testing the waters. What conversations do you have with your son now, especially when we see, like, how everything's changing as far as sexual assault allegations and harassment? Like, I hate to say it, but a lot of things that were normalized in our generation are something else now. I just can't go to him.
Starting point is 00:21:46 He really into the females a lot. Like, were normalized in our generation are it's something else now I just can't go he really into the females a lot like he stay on his phone if it ain't sports he's really just like into the ladies man I just tell him to be careful don't put your heart
Starting point is 00:21:53 in nothing right now and definitely understand no is no cause last thing we need going on till my uncle murdered son locked up for rape or some things like that
Starting point is 00:22:00 so I just tell him you know if it's no it's no and just you know continue to be a playboy like he is do you meet some of his women friends yeah I just tell him, you know, if it's no, it's no. And just, you know, continue to be a playboy like he is. Do you make some of his women friends? Yeah, I actually met one of his girlfriends before.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Yeah, just one of them. So that's the serious one. Yeah, she broke up with her now. So you're like, yo, dad, I'm back to being a player. I'm like, all right, cool. Back to being a player. That means his heart's a little broken. Yeah, it was.
Starting point is 00:22:20 I could tell it was because he really liked her. It was his birthday. We had like a big little dinner for him and he invited a man for the first time. That's nerve wracking. Uh-huh. You got to meet my dad. Why do you want your kids to listen to Kendrick and Cole more than you? I mean, not more than me, but I prefer that to be their cup of tea because at least you
Starting point is 00:22:36 get a type of a good message from them. It's not always like just about, you know me, I come from a violent background. My oldest son, he kind of seen certain things when he was young, when he come up, staying with me as far as when I was really into the streets. So he get it and he see the change now. Like, all right, cool, things ain't like that no more.
Starting point is 00:22:54 I ain't got to be doing this, that, and the third. So he ain't exposing that no more. He see the change. But as far as like, you know, concerts, sometimes I know my music might be aggressive. I'm real aggressive. I got real rated R music. And it's cool.
Starting point is 00:23:07 But I like the message sometimes that J. Cole and Kendrick, you know, because they ain't talking about popping pills, the thing that's cool now. Even though I get it. Us growing up, it was weed. Before us, you know, it was in the Coke and crack. But, you know, our generation was more weed, liquor. So I get it.
Starting point is 00:23:23 The new generation, they into popping pills and Xannies and that's their thing. But I don't mean I want my son growing up thinking that's cool. So I'd rather pay attention to Kendrick and Cole and get that understanding that just everything you hear in rap music ain't to be done. We appreciate you joining us.
Starting point is 00:23:40 I appreciate y'all having me. Thank you, Lenny Grant. Thank you. Thank you. I'm a murderer. Sometimes I get mad thank you, Lenny Grant. Thank you, thank you. Yeah, yeah. Uncle Murda. I still, sometimes I get mad when I hear Lenny Grant, because I still like, no, it's still Murda. But then when they say Murda, I'm like, yo, it's Lenny Grant, man. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:23:54 He's going. Well, there you have it. It's The Breakfast Club. It's Uncle Murda, Lenny Grant, whatever you want to call him. You have him. It's The Breakfast Club. You already know, DCO, don't come outside. Out now.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Char. DCO, don't come outside. Out now. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got some special guests in the building with us this morning. No, we have one special guest. Yeah, we always say we got special guests in the building. And don't always apply to everybody. So disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:24:20 This one definitely applies. I'm a dude when it starts on show, I'm like, yo, see if we can get Donnell to come in. I'm cool with that. We have Ashley Larry, Donnell Rollins, and we have a special guest that hasn't been made in 12 years. Oh, man, the legendary. That's right. Iconic, Dave Chappelle.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Oh, my God. Good morning. Welcome, son. Hey, good morning, man. It's good to see you. Do you feel pressured to do a great radio interview since you haven't done it in 12 years? Not really.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Yeah. I mean, yeah, I'm what everybody like me. I don't come out and try to do bad. I saw you at the fight, Charlamagne. Yes, I was at the Triple G, Danny Jacobs fight. And I got to tell you, I got excited to see and I realized I've never met this person. That's how I felt. I saw you a few rows up.
Starting point is 00:25:03 I'm like, that's Dave Chappelle. And then you turned around and you saluted, but I'm like, I don't think he's doing that to me. I didn't want to salute back at first. I didn't want to salute back at first. I'm like, oh, he's talking to me. I told my wife, I said, you see Dave Chappelle? Just say what's up to me. So I'm saying all that to say, you know, I got
Starting point is 00:25:21 really good fellatio that night because you said what's up to me. Oh, whoa. I didn't know where that was going. Wow. I was like, wow. I said, wow. Is that what we're talking about? Marital fellatio. Do you wake and bake in the morning, David, or do you wait until after breakfast? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:37 I'm a waiter. I usually wait at night. Oh, at night. Okay, okay. You said something interesting. You said you don't ever want to just present something bad. You still feel like't ever want to just present something bad. You still feel like you got something to prove? Because you're, like, critically acclaimed. You're respected by your peers. Do you feel still like you got something to prove?
Starting point is 00:25:53 No, it's not necessarily you feel like you got something to prove. I'm sure you guys feel the same way. It's like quality control, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You want to make sure that whatever you offer, you put your best foot forward. You know, that doesn't mean you want to prove anything. It just means you respect the people that respect you. You want to reciprocate their respect with a good product.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Do you still get nervous when you do shows or is this a piece of cake to you? Well, one time it didn't work out. Sometimes it don't work. You know what it's like? And Donnell, you can attest to this. When people ask me, like, do you get nervous when you go on stage? It's like asking a pilot if he gets nervous before a flight. I might hit some weather.
Starting point is 00:26:29 That's a terrible trick. I might hit some weather, but I feel like normally we land the plane. I don't think we've ever not landed. Maybe Detroit, but other than that. By the way, I would never want to know if my pilot was nervous, by the way. Yeah, you don't know a nervous pilot. I'm just a little
Starting point is 00:26:43 confused because everybody's throwing so much respect. And, Dave, I've been on this show four or five times. When I come here, they don't even look me in my face. They don't make eye contact. That's not true. Every time I come here, y'all on social media, y'all doing everything. Donnell, what about that time you came and I told everybody, I said, no matter what Donnell says, do not laugh.
Starting point is 00:27:03 So, like, 20 minutes. I told everybody, I said, no matter what Donnell says, do not laugh. It was like slow motion. So I was like, oh, this looks like a setup. What made you even like Donnell? What was it in Donnell that said, you know what, I can work with this guy? The first time I heard about you, I went home to D.C. And I went to the comedy club and I asked them old comics. Like, what's popping around here?
Starting point is 00:27:34 And everybody was like, yo, you got to see this new kid down there, Rawlings. And then I met you and we had a swell time. Remember that? Yeah, I do. You remember that? Swell time. We're going to leave you with a swell time. David, you're kind of regretting it. No, no, no. You won't leave We're going to leave it at that. David, you're kind of regretting it. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:27:45 But we didn't have that. You won't leave me alone. It comes with me everywhere. I'm broke, bitch. I watched the, like, okay, like, I watch your show online all the time. Like, I watch all you guys. I've seen the, I just watched an interview that you did with Neil. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:02 On FaceTime. Yeah, that's my guy. I watched you on a real estate show. Oh yeah, Open House. And I saw you at the DJ Awards. I presented an award to you. And you promised, you said, I'm going to come on the show. You said, I need a little time, but I'm going to come.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Yeah, that's right. You definitely kept your word. Why do you think white people gravitated towards you? Your comedy? It's been like that your whole career. I don't know. I don't look at it that way. The whites white people gravitated towards your comedy? Because it's been like that your whole career. Well, you know, I don't know. I don't look at it that way. Like, the whites are really gravitating towards it.
Starting point is 00:28:30 I don't use those kinds of metrics. I think all of us, at some point, we have ventured into some kind of cultural crossroad. We're black people, but we're corporate people. We all smoke weed. We all smoke weed. We all smoke weed. We traverse the American landscape. So I don't think there's anyone in America that I'm incapable of
Starting point is 00:28:51 communicating to on some level. Now with everything so sensitive now, do you think you could do the Dave Chappelle show and not have backlash? Because it seems like everything is sensitive. You say a word and people are already crying and picketing outside of things. Hey man, President Graz girl's about to p***. That's all you need to know, right?
Starting point is 00:29:09 That's what it says, you know? You know? And comedians wipe out. You know, everybody does. Sometimes you're going to say something, and you might be wrong, but that's the nature of the genre, you know? To not take a chance for fear of that would be, would not be being true to the music.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Would you ever apologize if you said something too far? If I concede, if I actually concede it's too far. But it's a touchy line, you know what I mean? I like it harder. I think that, yeah. No, I'm going to say you have quite possibly the greatest rape joke of all time. Oh, the Bill Cosby one. He rapes.
Starting point is 00:29:47 And he's safe. And he's safe. But he's safe. But he's safe. Was that an observation you was pondering? I mean, you know, the thing is, here's the thing. It's tough to talk about jokes because I don't want to open the door with all these weird analytics and shit. Like, what does he actually mean by that?
Starting point is 00:30:06 That's a slippery slope. Well, you know, I don't want to antagonize anybody or intentionally offend somebody. Have you come up with an answer for as far as like, what should we do with Bill Cosby? Should we still watch his work? Should we still appreciate his art? Do I have an answer for that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:22 No, the question, it's the kind of question that makes more questions. Got you. You know what I mean? Like, it's a tough one, man, because, you know, what he's accused of is very serious. I don't, like, take that lightly. However, you know, I don't know. It was 70s.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Times, this crazy shit is going on. I don't know what to say. Yeah, yeah. America's dad is now America's rapist. Yeah. According to the New York Post. Yeah. It's a tough one.
Starting point is 00:30:47 All right, we got more with Dave Chappelle and Donnell Rawlins when we come back. Don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Howdy, it's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We have Dave Chappelle and Donnell Rawlins in the building.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Yee. I did appreciate on those specials that you didn't shy away from any topics because I do feel like everybody's so politically correct. You know, and I also find it ironic that everybody's like, he walked away from 50 million, but then you came back and got 60 million doing Netflix.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Allegedly. Two specials. Yeah, well, you know what? Yeah. Thank God that there was a happy ending to that walking away from Chappelle's show. Because I could have just never worked again. You know? But I never stopped. Even when I was, like, not in the public eye, I was still playing comedy clubs.
Starting point is 00:31:33 And I found an altitude that I was comfortable with. And, you know, I had a good time. How many times a day did Donnell call you and beg you to come back? He didn't call. He didn't beg me for nothing. Were you guys always in communication? Because Donnell did for't call. He didn't beg me for nothing. Were you guys always in communication? Because Donnell did it for a while. He was in a state of depression
Starting point is 00:31:49 after... Donnell was? Jesus. Yeah, I had a tough time myself. He was like, what about me? What about me? I think, you know, when I was gone, I think Donnell stayed in touch with me and Neil were cool the whole time, you know. It I was gone, I think I stayed, Donnell stayed in touch with me and Neil were cool the whole time.
Starting point is 00:32:05 You know, it wasn't as bad blood amongst us. Like, people would assume that I left in a huff. It wasn't like that. I mean, I did leave in a huff, but I wasn't mad at the guys. A lot of people, like, after, you know, after he left, a lot of people would ask me, you know, how I feel about it or whatever. Are you upset? And I never was upset because I was doing comedy for a while
Starting point is 00:32:24 before I was introduced to Dave Chappelle. Like with anything, you can be as talented as you want, but until you get the right platform, nobody will never know about it. Gotcha. I don't know if I can be in a Dave Chappelle seat here, but go ahead. What'd you say? What'd you say?
Starting point is 00:32:39 I'm like, okay, but you're a professional. So I can ask you another question, please. What'd you mean I went on Bad and Blue? What'd you mean I went on Chappelle? What'd you mean I went on Chappelle's show? I know what happened. But for everybody, the one that I've been asked that question a million times, that I always felt that I was talented, but again, you need the right opportunity. Even in sports, you could be a talented person, but until the coach puts you in the game, nobody's going to ever see what you do. So he gave me a platform to do what I've been doing for years
Starting point is 00:33:10 and I think there was an even exchange after all that. Okay, so Dave. Do you have a favorite mumble rapper? Because you're a hip-hop head. Do you appreciate anything from this generation? Yeah, I appreciate it. I mean, I party to it. If I go out, they playing Migos.
Starting point is 00:33:27 I listen to that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But a favorite mumble rap, I don't know about all that. Yeah, yeah. I like to be able to say the lyrics, too. Well, I can tell who you really like based on who you have on tour. Well, when you do this residency that you're doing in New York City at Radio City, I can see that you handpicked the artist that you wanted to be there.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Yeah, you know, it's funny, man. So this year will be like my 30th anniversary of standing. And I figured, like, I should mark that occasion, right? Like, you know, this business is hard. You existed in a long time. And it's good to stop for a minute and just appreciate the fact that I'm still able to do this. And I'm very lucky to be successful. So it's a
Starting point is 00:34:06 it's a celebration like even now you'll see my next special the act i'm doing now i like it because there's joy in it like i'm really enjoying what i'm doing right now i really you know what i mean it's like i want skydiving once have you ever done done that? No, Envy has. I have, yeah. Okay, I hated it. What did you hate about it? Because I hated going up. I hate the thought of jumping out of a plane. I hate watching on YouTube the people that die. I enjoyed that part, but the whole going up part I didn't like.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Because it was terrifying. The entire time. Like, okay, I got in, man. You're jumping out of a plane. Yeah. In the beginning, it's a plane ride. Then the door opens. Yep.
Starting point is 00:34:44 And you realize you expected to jump out. And I'm strapped to a guy that I've never met before. And I didn't see the chute pack. And oh my God, I have kids. And all this stuff you're thinking as you edge up to the door. Next thing you know, you're just in the sky. There's no logical reason to be there. There's no, you know, my life didn't depend on it.
Starting point is 00:35:03 And yet I jumped out of this plane and just falling. And everyone says it feels like flying. But to me, it felt like falling about 120 miles. And I was terrified. So what did you get out of the situation other than being terrified? Well, the point is when the chute lands and you survive it, you go home that night, you eat dinner, food tastes better. House is quiet and still and you feel comfortable
Starting point is 00:35:27 and safe in your house. You're like, man, I'm glad to be home. Everything's good. So that's what it felt like. It felt like coming back and doing this Netflix special and all that. Felt like my chute opened and everything's just good right now. See, I don't gotta do all that to get that feeling. I'm black in America. All I gotta do is just drive through the
Starting point is 00:35:43 neighborhood that I live in and make it home without being to do is just drive through the neighborhood that I live in and make it home without being stopped, and I feel the exact same way. All right, well, I live in a much nicer neighborhood, obviously. I'm just kidding. I was kidding. I mean, we're all black. You know what I mean? Like, I know what you mean,
Starting point is 00:35:59 but it's not like I'm going to try to survive a traffic stop just to get that feeling. I mean, it's like, it's the black experience, but I did it. I don't know why I did it, but the point is that now I'm happy to be doing what I'm doing. Would you do it again? What, quit my show? No.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Skydive. Oh, skydive? No, I don't think I would, man. I mean, like, I get it. I know what it's about. You know what I mean? I just think that you know, it's just one of those things. I didn't think I would, man. I mean, like, I get it. I know what it's about. You know what I mean? I just think that, you know, it's just one of those things. I didn't even mean to do it the first time. It's a long story. Dave, I hate to do this, but I have to put you on the spot.
Starting point is 00:36:34 But could you explain to The Breakfast Club what you did to my apple pie a year ago? Your apple pie? Is this code for something? No, he's talking. Okay, so we were playing at the paps blue ribbon theater and the pastry chef and donnell hit it off the first night of the engagement she was white and danielle's oh that's when you listen to that no no no but she's just no she's an older woman real sweet woman and she really liked donnell so came to work, and she had baked him a pie.
Starting point is 00:37:08 And the pie had his name stenciled in the crust. Wow. And I was excited about it, because every day she would come to work. She says, is there anything that you could do for him? Is there anything special you want? I was like, make me a pie. She was like, that's pretty simple. I said, well, if that's so simple, make me a pie and put my name on the top of the pie.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Would you put your dick in the pie or something? What's the moral of the story? That is correct. Oh, my goodness. I didn't. I didn't. Yo, yo, yo, yo. Yo, just a word by the bottom.
Starting point is 00:37:36 And you ate it? I was excited about the pie. Oh, I thought you were. Okay. No, no. I was sure everybody's pie. I didn't actually put my dick in it. Would you have still eaten the pie if they would have put your dick in it? No, and, I was sure everybody pie did this. I didn't actually put my d*** in it. Would you have still eaten the pie if Dave would have put your d*** in it?
Starting point is 00:37:46 No, and he kept going. He was like, because somebody put that pie in the microwave for three seconds. So as much as people love Dave Chappelle, he's an evil friend by and large. That was funny, man. All right, we got more with Dave Chappelle when we come back. Don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Angela Yee. Charlamagne Tha God. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Angela Yee. Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We have Dave Chappelle and Donnell Rawlings in the building. Charlamagne. When the last time you been humbled, Dave? Humbled?
Starting point is 00:38:14 Yeah. You mean like what? Professionally or personally? Both. Detroit. Yo, yo, man. Life is humiliating. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Yeah. Even for you? For everybody. Yo, you think if I'm walking down the street and a lady says, can I take a picture, and she doesn't know how to work her camera, and we all standing there. But you do that because you got to have empathy. But life is humiliating.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Being a parent is humiliating. Being a husband is humiliating. All of it is humiliating. Hindsight of 2020, was everything worth it? Like everything you went through, like even the Chappelle show experience and even walking away from it, was it all worth it? Hey, man, yeah. I was happy to have that show, you know?
Starting point is 00:38:55 I'm sorry it ended the way it ended, but I enjoyed making that show. It was an experience that very few people get to have. You miss it? You miss it, especially with everything going on and so much material? Yeah, I miss it.
Starting point is 00:39:10 I have a great skit for this. Because I see something and I say, damn, I miss this shit power show. Yeah, I miss it too. You know, I think, I don't know if I could
Starting point is 00:39:17 do it again though because I miss it but then I remember what it was like to do it and it just wasn't, it might be easier now to make it just because of technology.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Yeah, but the internet ruined s***. It wouldn't be the same. Yeah, stuff that you want to do, somebody will do on YouTube ten times faster and ten times worse. Right. Yeah, it's true. But you did employ a lot of people. It was great, yeah. I worked with a lot of great people. I was doing a show
Starting point is 00:39:41 in Atlanta the other night and bumped into some of the guys from the crew. I hadn't seen those guys since I walked off the set. It was good to see them. And, you know, you remember people fondly, like, after it's all said and done. So, you know, I do have bad feelings about how it ended, but I don't have bad feelings about what it was.
Starting point is 00:39:58 It was a great experience. Now, how did Charlie Murphy's passing affect you? Because I know you guys were pretty close. It was tough, man. It was a reality check. I feel very lucky that I got to know him. I feel like he's a very large part of the reason that I got to be successful. Like, literally, he changed my life just by saying,
Starting point is 00:40:17 I fought Rick James many times. We were like, what? He fought Rick James. Fought Rick James. I was like, what? Charlamagne. Jesus. I don't know what accent that was. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 00:40:30 I didn't sound like you said that. That's what it sounded like you said. It didn't sound like that. I didn't know you could say fuck on the radio. But no, he said he fought Rick James many times. He tells his story at lunch, and it literally, from then on, it just changed our lives. You immortalized him.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Yeah, man, but, you know, I got to, like, meet and work with Rick. And, I mean, you know, Charlie, and he was an OG. Like, Charlie's been around the block. You know, his brother is Eddie Murphy. He's seen the epicenter of, like, the fame that we all wanted to acquire. And he had great stories. And he was also a real nurturing dude. I think he gave me great advice. You know, I miss his
Starting point is 00:41:12 presence, man. I was real sad to hear he died. He's doing a great job on Power. He is doing a great job. He took Donnell's job. He did. He definitely took Donnell's job. Donnell was supposed to get that role. That's when he busted you in New York. But I will say, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:25 when other people get stuff away from yourself, it's hard to celebrate that. But, you know, when I found out that Charlie was doing that role, I realized that he was probably the perfect person for him. And in hindsight, as far as with him passing away or whatever, I just think it's a nice thing for people to see him being a part of a great body of work like that. And he did a good job.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Did Charlie's death make y'all think about your own mortality? Because I know Donnell called me one day randomly. He was like, yo, I just want to tell you, man, you know what I'm saying? You know, people are dying and you might die. So I just want to tell you I love you. You're doing a good job. I'm like, what? No, I will say, and I know Dave may have different answers.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Like when someone passes away, especially when somebody that you care about, it makes you think about people important in your life and people that you respect. And I don't know. I was probably, you know, in my feelings that day. And it was at a time when you just dropped your book. And I'm seeing, like, your transition from not just doing urban stuff,
Starting point is 00:42:19 but, like, the media run that you did. I'll keep it real. All the white folks that you partnered up with and all the interviews you did, I'll keep it real, all the white folks that you partnered up with, all the interviews you did, I was like, he's taking it to the next level. And another thing in our community is not too often that people read books. So the fact that, you know, a brother put a book out and he got people that wouldn't normally pay attention to that. I know it's hard to say, and I didn't say no homo before I said that I love you. And I know that's what probably threw you off.
Starting point is 00:42:51 And I didn't say pause at the end, right? That cancels out. I thought you was sick. No, no. The way you called, I thought he was sick. I thought he was like... That's the one time that we really appreciate people. That's real.
Starting point is 00:43:03 In death. That's true. When someone passes away, it makes you think about it. So many times in our life, we get to a point where you say to yourself, I wanted to call that person just to say hi or just to say what's up. Yeah. And you don't act on those feelings. And then something tragic may happen.
Starting point is 00:43:18 And then you're like, oh, man, I was just supposed to call him. So that was me and my mom. You know, sometimes on the tour bus, Darnell gets drunk and looks at pictures of his son and cries. Oh, you do? I love that. I sniffle. I'm just telling you this. I can believe that. That's cute, though.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I caught him doing it a few times. You ever met Donnell Big Mama? Yeah, of course. She's great. She's wonderful. We vacationed together. Yeah, I seen that. You guys were on a yacht. Well, yeah. Why is it well, yeah? Because I thought it was a yacht until I saw
Starting point is 00:43:50 Puffy's s***. So y'all just went on Puffy's boat. Turns out we had a boat. Turns out we had a boat. You don't feel the need to compete with stuff like that, though. Not at all. I'm really, like, really, really happy right now. You know, I appreciate it, like, really, really happy right now.
Starting point is 00:44:05 And, you know, I appreciate it. Like, my kids are safe right now. I know where they are. Everyone's happy. Everyone's fed and clean. It's a good look, man. I'm just... Everyone's fed and clean.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Yeah. Yeah. It's a good look. Now, we've seen you pop out with Chris Rock a couple of times. Another legend. Another icon. Yeah, he's the... That's the homie, man.
Starting point is 00:44:24 There's only two of y'all in that space, though. Yeah, Chris is there. He's definitely a big brother, though. He's killing it. I went and saw his act. I've seen his act a few times. He's killing it right now. He's saying maybe you guys would do a tour together.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Well, we are going to do two nights together at Radio City. It'll be the first time we've ever officially headlined a show, co-headlined a show together. And I'm very excited about it. We locking everything down. We got some of the best... Who's we, son? Wait, so you gave down. Who's we?
Starting point is 00:44:55 Who's we? We? I'm doing one or two shows. I'm just saying. You said we. Don't let me get beat up. Don't let me me get people. Don't let me rub my cock. Don't let me rub my cock. I'm going to be honest with you, Dave.
Starting point is 00:45:08 I don't think y'all need no other comedians on those dates. It's going to be. And to be quite honest, you don't. But, you know what I'm saying? We got a team. I'm going to do some of the shows. How do you know that? Forcing yourself on the show?
Starting point is 00:45:21 You're going to rape me? You're just going to rape me? You're going to do shows? Y'all so disrespectful. Did you ask him to sit and perform? Y'all so disrespectful. Well, in the event that I have the opportunity to perform. So you're the understudy. Yeah, the understudy.
Starting point is 00:45:32 He's totally going to be on it. All right, we are The Breakfast Club. Now, coming up next, usually we do rumors, but, I mean, damn it, man. Dave Chappelle is here. We're going to kick it with Dave Chappelle some more, so don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Now, usually we do rumors right here, but, I mean, Donnell Rawlings and Dave Chappelle is here. Dave Chappelle hasn't done radio in 12 years, so we're kicking it with Dave Chappelle. Charlamagne? I want to ask you, Dave, where do you draw the line when it comes to, like, cultural appropriation? What do you mean? White people appropriating black culture. Okay, this is a controversial question. And I'm not sure if the premise of the question is correct.
Starting point is 00:46:16 For example, Kylie and Kendall superimposed their images on Biggie and Tupac. T-shirt. And they got T-shirts. Right. Okay. And as a black person, a person from that culture, you feel like they... It's disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:46:32 It's disrespectful. Yeah. Yeah, man. That's a tough one. Did you go see the Tupac movie? No, I haven't. I saw it. Did you like it?
Starting point is 00:46:40 I don't think it was as terrible as everybody was saying, but it wasn't... I haven't heard good things. And someone yesterday said they loved it. It starts before Tupac is born and it ends when he dies. That's a long period of time to cover and so many things that happen in Tupac's life. And he was such a complex person and so many different incidents.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Have you ever had a club when Tupac was there? No, never. It wasn't that much fun. Really? Was it scary? Yeah, I just remember being in parties. It just felt like a lot of dark s*** was around a guy. I liked him. I didn't know him well, but I just felt like culturally that
Starting point is 00:47:16 those were darker times. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. He was a gangster. Right. And I'm not saying this to be controversial. This has nothing to do with the question that you asked me. Oh, I just thought you got out the question like a UFC fighter. No, no, it was good. I did.
Starting point is 00:47:30 You know, I've been watching you, Charlotte, man. I was ready for you. Everyone was like, just ignore him. He was like, I just didn't see you too far in the other way. I just didn't think, yeah, I mean, you know. But do you plan to see it to just get an idea? I'm going to watch it at home probably. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:47:50 Like, I don't know, man. The question you're asking, I think, is a very important question, but I'm not sure how to answer that. Gotcha. You know what I mean? Because at a certain point, I feel like no one's going to feel that way more than African-Americans. Because we create so much culture and oftentimes it's just siphoned from us.
Starting point is 00:48:12 And it's almost all that we've ever had. I'm not going to say all we've ever had. We've done many great things, but you know what I mean. Yeah, absolutely. But it is American culture, too. Kylie and Kendall, they don't understand what they're tapping into. They don't understand. I don't think they were doing that maliciously.
Starting point is 00:48:29 I just think that they're never going to, you're a black dude. You're not going to see the world. If you had some glasses that someone could put on just to see the world how you saw the world, they'd be probably f***ing terrified.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Yeah. You know, I heard that interview with you. I get it. I get it, but that's a hard question to answer. Do your kids think you're funny? Yeah. I mean, look, I'm their dad, so there's something
Starting point is 00:48:56 about me that's corny to them, but they get it. They know. My kids are teenagers now. My youngest son is as old as I was when I started doing stand-ups. He's 14. Wow. He started at 14? Yeah, I started real young.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Wow. 30 years. I'll be 44 this summer. Veteran, seasoned. Yeah, and it'll be my 30th anniversary. I'm really proud of that. What made you get on stage at the age of 14? The fear of death. the fear of
Starting point is 00:49:25 death well you do you do you have been thinking about your own mortality well yo we're black dudes in america so right when i was in high school my freshman year high school i talked about on an active studio oh 600 kids my age got murdered in washington dc you can't be in an environment like that and they're not affecting like yo it made me want to just do whatever it was I wanted to do I feel very lucky to get to be 44 which you know now I'm more ambitious
Starting point is 00:49:54 and I'm looking forward to paying half price at the movies and shit but before that I didn't know I was going to live this long you know and I think the fear of not doing what I want to do in life made me do what I want to do. Even in Kevin Hart's book, he talks about doing comedy because
Starting point is 00:50:09 he was just trying to survive, too. Like, just being funny is what actually helped him not... Yeah, I wonder what makes you believe the stage can save you, though. It absolutely did. Look at a guy like Kevin Hart's mother****** from Philly. He's the number one selling artist on tour
Starting point is 00:50:26 on earth from any genre. You know, I'm very proud that somebody from my genre is at the top of the food chain. And somebody, I remember him starting out. It's amazing to see and it absolutely could save your life. What made you think that your
Starting point is 00:50:42 fast talking and your liking of controversial questions would take you as far as it did? That's true. And yet, and yet, and I've never met you, but you're one of the few celebrities I've met in a long time.
Starting point is 00:50:57 I feel like I know you and I've only seen you once. That means you're very effective at what you do. In my opinion, I would say it means you're very effective at what you do. I appreciate that. In my opinion, it means you're very effective. But I still feel like I can get shot because of my fast talking and... Yeah, but God forbid.
Starting point is 00:51:13 No, man, you've transcended that. I mean, look, anything terrible can happen to anybody, but there's some people that get shot that never get a platform, that never get to write a book, that never get to... I mean, everybody knows your name. You meet famous people.
Starting point is 00:51:27 They already know who you are. It's amazing. Yeah. You know what's so weird about that? I was somewhere, somebody came up to me, wanted to take a picture, and they thought I was him.
Starting point is 00:51:33 No, they didn't. I swear to God. That's disrespectful, Charlamagne. I'm like, that's disrespectful. No, that's disrespectful to who? Me or him? That did not happen.
Starting point is 00:51:40 I swear to God, he was like, are you Charlamagne, the God? Wow. I was like, you don't get to f*** up. That's disrespectful. Why are he was like, are you Charlamagne Tha God? Wow. I was like, you don't give a f*** about me. That's disrespectful. Why are you so mad about that, Charlamagne?
Starting point is 00:51:49 You wasn't mad with Morris Chestnut. That's Morris Chestnut. I mean, it's a difference. You know what I'm saying? Morris Chestnut gave a mistake of Morris Chestnut, but Morris Chestnut gave a mistake of you. That's a big deal. Now, there's your girl got to go.
Starting point is 00:52:01 So, tell them about Radio C. Can I get one more question? Okay, one more question. What's driving Dave in 2017? Like So let's tell them about Radio City. Can I get one more question? Okay, one more question. I just want to know what's driving Dave in 2017. Like, what's driving you right now? Right now, it's a gentleman named Nestor. No, I'm just kidding. Radio City, of course, residency.
Starting point is 00:52:20 We look forward to seeing the show. And when does that start? You guys got to come, man. I'm definitely coming. It's first through fourth. First through the fourth is me and the Roots. Alright, you sound like Floyd Mayweather now.
Starting point is 00:52:32 I saw you call him out. That was the worst. I know. There's some cold. Who do we have for tickets? Oh, you guys, you're good. You're good money.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Until we get to the door. That's what I say. We got to call Donnell. Winning! Donnell's like, I would never not be useful. I bet your mom is. I would love to get that call. Yo, this is a breakfast.
Starting point is 00:52:59 We outside. Huh? You know what? What? What'd you say? What'd you say? Well, there you have it. It's Dave Chappelle.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Donnell Rollins. Come on. Say Donnell was here too. Damn, Donnell. All right. Donnell Rollins. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Pick it up. Charlemagne. Say the gang. Don't get out of shape. Charlemagne. You are a donkey. It's time for Donkey of the Day. Donkey of the Day does not discriminate. I might not have the song of the day, but I time for Donkey of the Day. Donkey of the Day does not discriminate.
Starting point is 00:53:26 I might not have the song of the day, but I got the donkey of the day. So if you ever feel I need to be a donkey, man, hit it with the heat. It's the Breakfast Club, bitches. Who's Donkey of the Day today? All right, listen, man. Charlemagne Degas here. I'm on vacation until 2018. I don't give a damn what y'all think about that because I deserve it.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Now, The Breakfast Club is in 80 plus markets in 150 countries, so we have a lot of new listeners who probably don't even know who Charlemagne Tha God is. So use my time off
Starting point is 00:53:52 to catch up on some of my past work. Okay? Okay. If you're new here, I do a segment every day called Donkey of the Day. Donkey as in jackass,
Starting point is 00:54:00 and that's when I give someone the credit they deserve for being stupid. So if you never heard of it, this is new to you, but if you are a regular listener, then this is an oldie but goodie because it's the best of the donkey of the day. Donkey of the day goes to me, Charlemagne Tha God. Now, the reason it's going to me is because I consider myself a pretty thoughtful guy.
Starting point is 00:54:17 I pay attention to what's going on in the world for the most part. But something has hit me over the past year or so, and it's been heavy on my spirit all week. And if you listen to my podcast, The Brilliant Idiot, you may have hit me over the past year or so, and it's been heavy on my spirit all week, and if you listen to my podcast, The Brilliant Idiot, you may have heard me speak on it, but I want to speak about it here on The Breakfast Club, and I want to talk to y'all about it. I feel like intellectually and morally, America is declining as a
Starting point is 00:54:36 society. I feel like people aren't being morally honest anymore. Moral honesty to me is regardless of what you believe, regardless of your religion, regardless of your political party, you are able to call something right or wrong with no bias. For example, if you're a white military veteran and you love America, but when you see people taking a knee during the national anthem, and then when you are told why are they doing it because of the injustice that African Americans are facing in this country at the hands of the police,
Starting point is 00:55:03 if you are morally honest with yourself, you will say, I understand. Even if you don't agree with the way they are protesting, you understand why they are protesting. That's being morally honest. OK, being morally dishonest is acting like they're just being disrespectful to the military and disregarding the flag because they hate America. Now, why am I giving myself donkey today? Because I feel stupid that I am just now realizing that a lot of us men in America
Starting point is 00:55:25 have been raised on rape culture. Now the first time I heard the term rape culture I was like, what is rape culture? Either you rape a woman or you don't, but as I have learned what rape culture is, let me read the definition for you. Rape culture is a sociological concept used to describe a setting in which rape is pervasive
Starting point is 00:55:41 and normalized due to society's attitudes about gender and sexuality. Rape culture is perpetuated through the use of misogynistic language and objectification of women's bodies and the glamorization of sexual violence. My brothers, if we are being morally honest with ourselves, if you are a certain age like I am, you was born in the late 70s or 80s or hell, older than that, you are absolutely positively raised on rape culture. I feel bad and extremely dumb that I didn't realize this earlier in my life.
Starting point is 00:56:10 I don't care if it was Freaknik, Miami Memorial Weekend, Myrtle Beach Black Biker Weekend. It was never normal to feel like you can grab a woman's ass just because it's fat and she's got on biker shorts with Daisy Dukes. It was never normal to grab a woman's breast just because, you know, you saw in Dr. Dre's
Starting point is 00:56:26 Nothing But a G-Think video when the girl was playing volleyball and they ran up behind her and pulled her bikini top off. If you ever mimicked that kind of behavior, it wasn't normal, okay? If you are in a fraternity and you ever had women come over and you got them high and got them drunk, you know, that whole ain't no fun if the homies can't have none mentality. You and the rest of your frat ran a train on the girl. My brothers, that wasn't normal.
Starting point is 00:56:45 It was rape culture, okay? Movies like Revenge of the Nerds and Kids. Remember those where guys would have sex with passed out women or dress up as other people in order to trick the woman to have sex with them? That was rape culture. Remember Porky's? Remember sneaking up late to watch Porky's where they was drilling holes in the wall and peeping at the girls?
Starting point is 00:57:04 I got homeboys in college who would be hitting chicks from the back and then another homeboy would come in and start hitting the chick from the back without asking her consent and we would get drunk and high with women and they would get inebriated and then we would sleep with them.
Starting point is 00:57:15 I'm sorry, my brothers. All of that was rape culture. Hell, I look at some of the things I used to say to women in interviews here on The Breakfast Club and I'm like, bro, you was wild. So when I see all of these sexual allegations coming out over the past couple of years from Bill Cosby to Harvey Weinstein to Louis C.K.,
Starting point is 00:57:30 I don't know if it's because I'm older, but I'm looking at them like, why has this type of pervasion been normalized? And I think it's because a lot of brothers don't think they're doing anything wrong because it's been a common theme in our lives for way too long. I don't know if it's because i'm actually listening to women more and not having these discussions about rape culture with guys because that's what we do as men we start having conversations about rape culture with each other that's why we don't learn anything and it's so normalized to us that we make excuses about why we do what we do uh
Starting point is 00:57:59 have done what we done that that's where the whole victim blaming thing comes into play and you know there's just no excuse. It's not about what the woman wore or what time she was at your house. It's all about accountability. We are in the age of accountability. And if we are being personally accountable and being morally honest, we just have to admit that we were raised on rape culture and it was wrong. OK, we were absolutely we are absolutely in the age of accountability.
Starting point is 00:58:22 And if you're not holding yourself personally accountable, the universe will hold you accountable because we see all these people who have been doing dirt in the age of accountability. And if you're not holding yourself personally accountable, the universe will hold you accountable. Because we see all these people who have been doing dirt in the dark all these years being brought to the light. And I would just encourage everyone to start being morally honest and just admit we were raised on this pervasive rape culture. But we can unlearn all the BS we have learned and make things better moving forward. And it's not like people haven't been trying to tell us this for years. We just haven't been listening, okay? I was once part of the problem,
Starting point is 00:58:47 but now I want to be part of the solution. And the first step to that solution is recognizing that you can't hear what we don't reveal and what we need to reveal and be morally honest about as men is that a lot of us men in America were raised on rape culture, okay?
Starting point is 00:59:01 And I truly feel stupid, okay, for not coming to that realization sooner. So please give Charlamagne Tha God the biggest hee-haw, please. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Angela Yee. Charlamagne Tha God,
Starting point is 00:59:21 we are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you just joined us, Charlamagne gave himself donkey of the day. Yeah, I gave myself donkey of the day because I feel stupid that I'm just now realizing that a lot of us men in America have been raised on rape culture. It's been something I've been paying attention to for the past year and it's really been on my spirit.
Starting point is 00:59:37 You know what I mean? And after I saw what happened with Louis C.K., I'm just like, wow. Like, it's a lot of things that we normalized, especially if you was born in the late 70s, raised in the 80s, 90s, early 2000s. A lot of things we normalized that just were absolutely positively wrong. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:53 You know what? We interviewed D.L. Hughley for lip service, and he was talking about an incident when he was young, and the older kids on the block were like, yo, come, let's go run a train on this girl. Everybody's, you know, there. And he said he showed up, and the girl was crying, and everything he run a train on this girl. Everybody's, you know, there. And he said he showed up and the girl was crying. And everything he said, it just didn't look right.
Starting point is 01:00:08 And he said he helped her, like, get her clothes. And he said he left and the kids were making fun of him and hitting him. And they were mad at him. But he was like, it just didn't sit right with me. I never partaked in any trains, not because I wasn't going to. It's just that my penis would never get erect. And he said he actually, the girl's brother, when he was walking her back, thought that he did something to her because she was crying and she couldn't talk.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Right. And so he was ready to, he ran over, he was about to beat his ass and then finally she was like, it wasn't him, it wasn't him. But he was like, you know, it just didn't sit right with him when he saw it happening and she looked like she was in pain. It didn't look like it was something that she was with. It never sat right with me either. Even going to the Greek Fest
Starting point is 01:00:43 in Philly Greeks and Virginia Beach on Labor Day, you see it and it's just like, you just felt sorry. You she was with. It never sat right with me either. Even going to the Greek Fest in Philly Greeks and Virginia Beach on Labor Day, you see it and it's just like, you just felt sorry. You just felt bad. I never, I never was into it.
Starting point is 01:00:51 It just was one of those things my mom and pops made sure I knew early. Don't you dare. It's not right. So I was just never in. But you, and we seen it all the time
Starting point is 01:01:00 on television. Oh, absolutely. I mean, yo, listen, Revenge of the Nerds, the guy put on a costume to pretend to be another guy to sleep with the dude's girlfriend. Correct, absolutely. I mean, yo, listen, Revenge of the Nerds, the guy put on a costume to pretend to be another guy to sleep with the dude's girlfriend. You know, Porky,
Starting point is 01:01:09 they was drilling holes in the wall and, you know, peeping through the wall at the young ladies. You know what I mean? Think about the movie Kids. At the end of the movie Kids when the girl was passed out.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Right. And, you know, he slept with the girl. Like, you know, you think about songs like Ain't No Fun if the Homies Can't Have None or like the
Starting point is 01:01:24 Nothing But a G Thing video when he ran up behind the girl and pulled her bikini top off. Pouring beer all over the girl. Listen, man, we were raised on rape culture. If you was born in the late 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, you were raised on rape culture. But when you know better, you just gotta do better.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Hello, who's this? Yo, this Carl from Detroit. What's up, bro? We're talking about, were you raised on rape culture, man? Nah, man. Hey, what's going on, Izzy, see the guy, Yee? Nah, I wasn't raised like that, man. Um, you know, when lines was drawn, man, we always knew right from wrong, you know. Brandon, we might
Starting point is 01:01:55 have had a little fun back in the day playing around. No, no, no, my brother. What do you mean by a little fun? What was fun? Explain what that is. Not fun. No, okay, listen. Not fun, like I say, man, you know, in school and everything, I had to grab the butter too, but when girls... Okay, you can't do that.
Starting point is 01:02:11 That's sexual assault. You're proving my point, and it's okay. I'm not saying it's okay. You're absolutely right. It's not right, but I'm saying, like, it wasn't rape culture, man. Like, what do you think rape, man? Like, I don't think it's rape culture, man. Like, it's not that, man.
Starting point is 01:02:25 And like I say, man, when lines was drawn, I didn't cross those lines. Anytime that you are sexually putting your hands on a woman in any way that she is not okay with, then that is assault. I felt just like this young man when I heard the term rape culture. When I heard that term a couple of years ago, I was like, what is rape culture? Either you rape a woman or you don't. But then when you start really realizing what rape culture is, and it's the sociological concept
Starting point is 01:02:47 used to describe a setting in which rape is pervasive and normalized and misogynistic language and the objectification of women's bodies and feeling like you got entitlement over a woman's body, feeling like you can just grab her ass because you want to.
Starting point is 01:02:59 That is rape culture. I know the word rape throws you off, but it's rape culture. Even in elementary school and high school, that's what people did. When girls walked by the hall, guys would grab their ass. If you didn't, you was considered a sucker or they would call you the
Starting point is 01:03:13 gay slur that rhymes with maggot. And then you would turn around on the bus and scream on everybody and go crazy and everybody just be laughing at you. That used to happen all the time. That used to happen all the time. I used to see gays on the bus do the same thing. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 01:03:26 Yeah, how you doing? This is Nardo. Nardo, what's up, man? We're talking about rape culture. Was you raised on rape culture? Yeah, we was, man.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Back in the day. You from the 80s. If you're an 80 baby, man, you definitely was. I cannot deny that. And Solomon hit it definitely on the head with that one.
Starting point is 01:03:40 And it still, we're getting there. So it's still some brothers that's around our age, you know, 40, 45, and they still doing the same thing, man. This stuff is getting old, man. You know, we got children out here.
Starting point is 01:03:50 I was a single father. I raised two daughters. And that's what really made me realize that, you know, that ain't something to play with, you know. I appreciate you having me. Thank you for being here. Thank you, brother. And you know what, too?
Starting point is 01:04:01 And especially with my daughters, I have three of them, and I tell them, I'm like, if somebody touches you in a disrespectful way, you know, you don't have to fight back, but call me immediately because we're going to handle this. We're going to nip this in the bud immediately. This is not going to—it's not cool. It's not funny. It's not a joke. And call me immediately, and we handle it.
Starting point is 01:04:17 And my brother, I know it's an uncomfortable conversation to have, but we've got to be morally honest with each other and just admit we were raised on rape culture. The way we were raised just wasn't right, bro. The things we did back then just wasn't right. And I remember even in kindergarten, I remember this kid used to always try to kiss me, and I would tell the teacher, and she would just act like it was no big deal. Because it was cute. That's what they considered cute at that time. Well, 800-585-1051.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Were you raised on rape culture? Call us now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you just joined us, Charlamagne gave himself donkey of the day.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Yeah, I gave myself donkey of the day because I just feel stupid that I'm just not realizing that a lot of us men in America have been raised on rape culture. And, you know, one thing that I'm realizing from the call is a lot of people don't really know what rape culture is. And I promise you, I was the same way a couple years ago. I heard that term rape culture, and I was like, what is rape culture? Either you rape a woman or you don't. I ain't never raped a woman.
Starting point is 01:05:09 But then when you learn that it's just a sociological concept used to describe a setting in which rape is pervasive and it's the misogynistic language and the objectification of women's bodies and the glamorization of sexual violence, you're like, uh, yeah. Even in the work environment, when people have interns that work for them and hire interns and they feel like they can just talk to them any kind of way and flirt with them and take them out, because as an intern, you probably
Starting point is 01:05:31 feel like, man, I gotta kind of do what this guy is saying to do, because, you know, this is my job and I'm trying to get ahead. And the reason I'm talking about this, man, is because I'm just looking at all these sexual allegations that have been coming out over the past couple years from Cosby to Weinstein to Louis C.K., and I'm looking at them like they crazy. And I'm wondering why this type of pervasion has been normalized. And I just simply think it's because a lot of brothers don't think
Starting point is 01:05:52 they're doing anything wrong because this rape culture has been a common theme in our lives forever. Well, let me ask you a question. Do you think it's getting better or getting worse? And the reason I say that is, you know, when I was younger, there was probably one strip club in New York City. Now there's probably 50. And it seems like in the strip club, guys will grab a girl's ass and they think it's okay.
Starting point is 01:06:12 I mean, don't you think that's a little different? No, but you're not supposed to. Are they grabbing the stripper's ass? Yes. Isn't that the point?
Starting point is 01:06:17 I'm going to say I think it's getting better and I'm going to tell you why I think it's getting better. You're not supposed to. When I speak at these colleges, you know, when I talk to these younger dudes,
Starting point is 01:06:25 they're a little more woke than we were. You know what I'm saying? Like, they're recognizing that the things that we were doing were wrong. You know what I'm saying? Like, they're the ones kind of hipping me to the whole rape culture thing and I guess the feminism aspect of it. And they're getting rid of a lot of it. Like, I don't see Philly Greek anymore.
Starting point is 01:06:39 There's no Greek fest anymore. There ain't no Freaknik. No Freaknik. They tried to bring it back. Labor Day and Virginia Beach anymore. Like, they're getting ridnik. No Freaknik, though. They tried to bring it back. Labor Day and Virginia Beach anymore. They're getting rid of a lot of
Starting point is 01:06:46 those things as well. I think it's getting better. Okay. I think it's getting better. Hello, who's
Starting point is 01:06:51 this? What's up? This is Gary. Hey, we're talking rape culture this morning. Were you
Starting point is 01:06:55 raised on it? Yeah, bro. I was definitely raised on it. I was 42, born in 75, but in the 80s they had a bunch
Starting point is 01:07:02 of movies. Like he was mentioning, Porky, 16 Candles, Basic Instinct. We grew up on stuff like that you feel me what he was showing it all you feel me like on basic instinct sharon stone like rough things you feel me she like getting choked and like getting pounded and after seeing that being legit you know you want to experience that too when you get with a girl you know you might be a little rough with her. You're testing the limits.
Starting point is 01:07:26 You're seeing how everything works. And unfortunately, a lot of women, they do like it. But we did grow up running trains on girls, saving panties in the box under the bed. We got it from TV. You know, like they see stuff on TV and rap videos. They actually go do it. We did it in our own way. We didn't go to jail for rape.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Most of us didn't. We still out here, but the ones that didn't know how to control themselves and took it a little further, them the ones that ended up in prison. But everybody else know how to keep it in the house under wrap. You know, between you or her, or you got multiple people, and you know,
Starting point is 01:08:00 but some people know how to go with it. But we definitely grew up in a rape culture. Absolutely. Thank you, bro. Hello, who's this? This is Zay Tobin from Dayton, Ohio. Good morning and God bless to y'all.
Starting point is 01:08:12 Good morning. Now, you said you were raised on it. You seen your dad doing it. Yes, yes. And it was just crazy. Like, yeah, my mom may be one of his baby mamas. We're going to skip past that. But he on the after hour joint, like a bootleg, whatever, all the little females,
Starting point is 01:08:33 yeah, they was of age, legal age, but just to see him walking around, be able to stick his tongue out, kiss a girl on her face, and grab her and all that and stuff like that. From seeing older people in my family just paying like they 50 and 60 years old, paying 18 and 20 year old girls to have sex on them and stuff. And then like Fresh Prince was one of my favorite shows. Will Smith used to do it all the time. Bro, think about a movie like The Wood when they did the dude to go run up to the girl and grab her ass. That seems so innocent. So that's why I said I could totally agree.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Like, then how you brought up revenge of the nerds. I never feel comfortable with that. I'm like, how can somebody just have a mask on and then after she find out it ain't her dude, she's still cool with it. Right. But that's just crazy. Like, I totally agree.
Starting point is 01:09:24 And men, we need to be accountable for our actions. We can't worry about if a girl half-dressed and drunk and high and all that. Like, we some perverts for real. Yeah, we've been gross for a long time, my brother. I don't remember seeing it on Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. Did y'all?
Starting point is 01:09:40 I don't remember seeing it on Fresh Prince. Yeah, I don't know what happened on there. Yeah, I don't remember seeing it. But anyway, what's the moral of the story? The moral of the story is when you know better, you got to do better. And you know what I'm saying? Like I said earlier, you can't heal what you don't reveal. And a lot of us men in America, you know, just have to admit that we were raised on rape culture. And, you know, if you've been part of the problem for a long time, now is the time to be part of the solution. You know, you got to have personal accountability and you got to have moral honesty. Like there is no way that you can look back at the late 80s, early the 90s,
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