The Breakfast Club - Unlearn Everything ( Jason Wilson Interview)

Episode Date: October 12, 2021

Today on the show we had Founder and CEO of Yunion and author Jason Wilson stopped by where he spoke about Unlearning Society’s Definition Of Masculinity, Mastering Emotional Stability and more. Also we opened up the phone lines for Slander the Breakfast club, for callers to call up and get it off their chest about how they really feel about the show. Also, Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to Jon Gruden for homophobic and misogynistic emails. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water,

500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zaka Stan. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-A-S-T-A-N on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best, and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing.

Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. percent ratchetness other ratchets that sit down i cannot like 95 percent ratchet become the most prominent form from here wake your ass up early in the morning but they tell me it was y'all i say oh hell yeah i'm getting the world's most dangerous morning show people's choice i'm a sweetheart but i'll cut you charlamagne the god

i can't believe you guys are the best collectively known as Breakfast Club, bitches. Good morning, USA. and it is Tuesday! Yes, it's Tuesday. Yes, it is. What's happening? How's everybody feeling out there? How you guys doing? I'm blessed, black, and highly favored, man. God is good, man.

It's another day of life, man. You know, you got to send everybody positive energy, love, and light. Be thankful for another day. You woke up this morning. You're breathing. Might be a little under the weather, but you're still here, okay? So be happy.

Now, question. I know we were talking about a long time. Anthony Ramos came up months ago. Did you guys see The Heights, the movie? No, I didn't. I didn't see it yet. Oh, my goodness. That movie is good.

Drop a bomb for Anthony Ramos and The Heights. You must have just saw it. I just seen it. Yeah, I seen it on a plane ride. And my goodness, I watched it on a plane ride back. And then my daughter, who's taking acting classes, she's really into acting. I watched it with her last night. And it was really, really dope.

Like, surprisingly. Like, I knew it was good. How'd you think it was surprisingly dope? Yeah, I'm a guy. Now, critically acclaimed. The play? What's the brother's name? Lin-Manuel Miranda.

Lin-Manuel Miranda. I thought you'd say Jeremy Lin-Manuel Miranda. He wentManuel Miranda. I thought you said Jeremy Lin-Manuel Miranda. He went to Hamilton also. And didn't see it. Well, I went to the play. So what? I don't know. He's great.

I'm going to tell you why. Because I'm not going to lie. When I seen a movie and they're rapping and singing in the movie as the movie goes on. Like Hamilton? Have you ever seen Hamilton, sir? Yes, but not in a movie form. That's a play. What are you talking about?

Yeah, but you know In the Heights was a play face. Yes, I know that. But as a full movie for two hours and twenty minutes, there's no way that I thought it was going to be that good and keep me. So you've never seen a musical? Not in a movie form. Not as a movie. You never saw The Wiz? The Wiz, yeah, as a kid.

What are you talking about? Annie? Those were kiddie movies. What do you mean? Musicals are musicals. Musicals are great. This was a grown-up musical. I loved it. Oh, grown-up. I enjoyed it. Like West Side Story?

I didn't see West Side Story. It doesn't surprise me that Lin-Manuel Miranda made something dope, though. And that was before Hamilton. And that was a critically acclaimed play before that happened. No, but I seen it yesterday on a plane, and I just thought it was great. So there's a couple of curses in there, but it was fine for my daughter, who is eight years old. But we really enjoyed it. I really thought it was great. There's a couple of curses in there but it was fine for my daughter who is eight years old but we really enjoyed it. I really thought

it was great, man. Well, good. Shout out to Anthony Mamos, Brooklyn Zone. I think it was two hours and 20 minutes. I was well entertained

for two hours and 20 minutes on that flight. Okay. So if you haven't seen The Heights, like my guys in here that talk about, oh, it's critically acclaimed.

They haven't seen it, go watch it because it's really, really dope. And The Wiz is not a kiddie movie, by the way. Okay.

There's people getting killed in The Wiz. Have you guys ever seen this movie called The Hangover? I heard it's funny. It's a comedy. You heard of it? Have you guys seen Heights?

No, you haven't seen Heights. It's critically acclaimed. You talk all this ish and you didn't see it. Oh, why you mad? I don't think the Heights wasn't, the Heights sadly wasn't critically acclaimed.

Somebody in here said it was critically acclaimed? No, no, no. Not the movie Somebody in here said it was critically acclaimed? No, no, no Not the movie The play That's why they ended up making it into a movie The movie didn't do well at the box office And it didn't get good reviews

Because they said that It did like 40 million at the box office Well, they had issues with the fact that There weren't any dark skin Latino people in it And it wasn't a good representation And they apologized for it and everything So that was some of the issues that

they had with it. They did $43.9 million at the box office. Alright, well, let's get the show cracking. Front page news, what are we talking about? Hold on, we got a guest today, man. The good brother Jason Wilson from Detroit will be here this morning. Who's that? He has an organization called Union.

He's 14 years of experience and training and developing young black men. If you've seen online, you experience and training in developing young black men. If you've seen online, you see the brother who teaches young black men how to deal with their trauma through martial arts. That's Mr. Jason Wilson. He'll be here this morning. He's got a documentary coming out that

Lawrence Fishburne is doing about his life. He's got a couple books out called Battle Cry and Cry Like a Man. He'll be here to talk to us this morning. Let's get the show cracking. Front page news, what are we talking about? The Raiders coach John Gruden Got a couple books out called Battle Cry and Cry Like a Man. And he'll be here to talk to us this morning. All right. Well, let's get the show cracking. Front page news. What are we talking about?

Well, the Raiders coach John Gruden has resigned over these misogynistic and homophobic emails. All right. We'll get into that next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Hey, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club.

Let's get some front page news. Now, Monday Night Football. The Ravens beat the Colts 31-25. All right. Now, WNBA Finals is tomorrow. Chicago takes on the Mercury, Phoenix Mercury. The game is at 9 p.m. tomorrow. All right.

What else we got, Ye? Well, John Gruden has resigned as head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders. He said, I love the Raiders and do not want to be a distraction. Thank you to all the players, coaches, staff, and fans of Raider Nation. I'm sorry. I never meant to hurt anyone. And the owner of the Las Vegas Raiders actually accepted that resignation. And so in the meantime, their assistant will be the interim head coach.

So there was a revelation about an email initially that John Gruden had sent out that contained some racist comments regarding the head of the Players Association for the NFL, DeMora Smith. And then they did an investigation and found other emails. Now, this first email initially said, DeMora Smith has lips the size of Michelin tires.

Gruden said he wasn't a racist, but then the New York Times reported that there were other emails that were sent that were also unearthed as part of this investigation. They said he used anti-gay slurs. He referred to Roger Goodell, the NFL commissioner,

as something that rhymes with maggot. Yes, the gay slur that starts with an F. And a clueless anti-football vagina. Also in an email that Goodell shouldn't have pressured the St. Louis Rams coach at the time, Jeff Fisher, to draft queers, which was a reference to Michael Sam,

who was the first openly gay player drafted by the NFL in 2014. There were also emails where he criticized the hiring of women as referees and also the acceptance of players protesting for racial justice during the national anthem. They also said there were photos of topless women that he was exchanging, including one of the cheerleaders. So those are some of the things that they found in these emails. Yeah, I mean, the big lip thing, that's definitely a racist trope,

but there's some gray area because you could say, you know, I wasn't being racist. I just made a comment about the size of his lips. But, you know, the F word, that's a gay slur. And, you know, calling Michael Sam the Q word, that's not up for debate is it it's pretty cut and dried it's pretty clear so he has since resigned and the players have reacted you know us as a team we were like yeah coach it was 10 years ago we love you man we got your back we're just trying to be there to support coach i know it's a hard time for him he He told us, men, learn from my mistake.

When we left that meeting, we didn't take it as how it came out. So he said he could see, according to Las Vegas quarterback Derek Carr, he said the team did rally around Gruden after Friday's meeting, and they acknowledged they could see how the emails would offend and hurt that the words have caused. You think? Yeah. But, you know, what it is? Originally the email was from 2011, but some of these

emails go up to, I think, 2018. It don't feel like Michael Sam was that long ago. When was Michael Sam? 2014, I think. Yeah, it don't feel like that was that long ago. Yeah, that was 2014. Alright, well that is your Front Page News. Alright, get it off your chest.

800-585-1051 if you need to vent phone lines are wide open hit us up now it's the breakfast club good morning the breakfast club hey guys i'm kate max you might know me from my popular online series the running interview show where i run with celebrities athletes entrepreneurs, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the

conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine.

I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia.

Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I create my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God.

What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I

really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments.

Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best

and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before listen to on purpose with jay shetty on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts i'm telling i'm telling what you're doing man i'm telling you this is your time to get it off your chest whether you're mad mad or blessed. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club.

Hello, who's this? It's D calling from Albany, Georgia. What's up, bro? Get it off your chest. Man, I just started my own independent record company because we ain't got that down here like Atlanta, Georgia do. And my wife is going crazy. Well, you know why?

Because back in the day, the streets in Savannah cut their nose off to spite their face because the good brother Camouflage got murdered. You know what I mean? Pure Pain Records would have definitely put Savannah on the map. And that's why the hood got to stop cannibalizing its own. Because sometimes you take out the same people that were sent to help you. You're right about that, Uncle Charlotte. That's all I'm saying.

Salute to Pure Pain Records, man. R.I.P. Camouflage. Good luck with your company, brother. Thank y'all. Alright, bro. Hello, who's this? Good morning. Good morning. Get it off your chest. Alright, how you doing? Angelique, DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God.

Peace, King. How you doing, Black Man? You know, I'm doing good by God's graces. That's right. I wanted to call in. Somebody said in passing, you know, back when everything was going on with Haiti, why does America hate Haiti so much? And I just wanted to, you know, give you guys some facts. Okay. You know, everybody knows that we were the first to take our freedom.

So, you know, they hate us for that. Yeah. We also, when we did so, you you know we offered freedom to any American that can come over to Haiti who could make it every a lot of people don't know that France also came back 25 20 years later and basically demanded that we give them back their property, i.e. the slaves. And they basically forced us to pay them 150 million francs, which is about $21 billion. Also, America also came to Haiti back in 1914 and stole about $500,000. So all of that was levied by America, Citibank.

They took that $500 that he even put it towards the debt and basically stole a lot of money from France. So I would also feel like that is grounds for, you know, if they were ever to give, you know, reparations that they owe us money also you know a lot of americans also don't know that haiti played a lot uh roles in america's history like we fought in the the civil war we uh actually uh there was a haitian by the name of uh john baptussabre, who founded Chicago. And also four Haitians flew with the Tuskegee Airmen. So the craziest thing is that we asked France for reparations back in 2004, and they essentially gave us the middle finger. You know, they hate that we took our freedom first. We played a lot of roles in America history, and they hate us for it.

Well, thank you for the history lesson, Kate. Thank you for the history lesson, brother. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.

Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing

real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all it's light-hearted pretty crazy and very fun listen to post run high on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts is your country falling apart feeling Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag.

I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg.

I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tribe own country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead.

Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt,

learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves, for self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay like grace have grace for yourself you're trying your best and you're gonna figure out the rhythm of this thing alicia

keys like you've never heard her before listen to on purpose with jay shetty on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts this is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed. Say it with your chest. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. So if you've got something on your mind, lay it out. Hello, who's this? Good morning, DJ Envy. This is Courtney from Atlanta, bro.

Hey, Courtney. Courtney, what up? Peace, King. Get it off your chest, bro. I just got to slam to y'all in Mitchelltown a little bit. I just need all of y'all in the studio for a week. Every last one of y'all. It's like missing your cousin at your favorite cousin at Thanksgiving dinner when, you know,

all y'all not there. So I need all y'all there for like a week in the studio together. Everybody's here right now. We here. Oh, oh, bet. Bet. I'm going to go and watch it on YouTube when I get off tonight. All right, brother.

Angela Yee, can I have some juice, man? Yeah, I got you. Some nurses down here in Atlanta. In Atlanta, brother. Angela Yee, can I have some juice, man? Yeah, I got you. Some nurses down here in Atlanta. In Atlanta, you need some juices? Okay. Yeah, send us some juices.

Drink fresh juice. All right. I will. Send them right now. Hello, who's this? Yo, it's Devin. Good morning, guys. Yo, what's up?

So, I'm actually going to see Erica by midnight. Shout out to her. She's from the Kansas City. The thing is, you got to either have a vaccination card or show that you are negative, which I just think is so stupid. I don't mind taking a COVID test, but I just fight.

Why do you think that's stupid? They gave you two options. You either got to have a card or get a negative test. What's wrong with that? That's the world we live in now. Right. But what's stupid is, I don't mind taking a covid test right negative but what about the people who have a covid test you can still get covid i don't understand what you're saying i'm saying i have to get a covid test fine uh-huh i don't care about that right but say for instance

i don't know to monica right she vaccinated, but she can still have COVID. Okay, so what you're saying is even if you're vaccinated, you should still have to take a test? Right. Yes. Okay. I agree. So they don't?

No, you don't. You just got to show your vaccination card. Oh, okay. Yeah, most places even when you show your card, you still got to take a test. Man, no. I didn't get to contact her tonight, but that's just stupid. Well, either way, you get to see Miss Badu.

Look at the bright side. I mean, I do, but what about the person next to me? They might have COVID. Right, she don't want to get COVID from a vaccinated person. Nah, that's true, too. Well, hopefully, Erica Badu smudges the whole arena so that keeps the COVID out. Hello, who's this? Yeah, what's the vibe? Mello.

Mello, what up? Mello! Yo, man. Uh-oh. Listen, I heard this call on Friday. Somebody tried to hate on you. Yo, and it's crazy, because if you're the same woman that was in my DMs calling me a titty, you failed to mention that

so are you, man. Like, excuse me? Oh, my God. Why you gonna hit my DMs? Why you gonna hit my DMs and then block me when I don't want you, man? Like, excuse me? Oh, my gosh. How you gonna hit my DMs? How you gonna hit my DMs and then block me when I don't want you because black men don't cheat? Like, come on.

Oh, so the girl that called up here trying to talk crazy about you was in your DMs. I think this is the one because, like, literally she said, yo, I'm like,

she tried to hit me up and I'm like, yeah, chill, you know, black men don't cheat. You know what I mean? Next thing I know, I'm black and I got, I'm hearing a call

that I'm in catfish. Like, two plus two is four. I think it was her. Like I said, yeah, chill. You know, black, green on cheeks. You know what I mean? Next thing I know, I'm black, and I got him here in a cold, and I'm in catfish. Like, two plus two is four. I think it was her. Like I said, man, your body on backwards. Like, you couldn't have had me whether I was single or not. Why was she body shaming you, though, King? Yo, she built like me.

Okay. Like, come on. Listen. She looks good on me. I think so. Okay, well, salute to both of y'all. I know. And your titties. It was wasn't me though when she called up here doing all that For no reason Okay you're right

Everybody knows Mello got a girl Black men don't cheat Kane Exactly black men don't cheat Get it off your chest 800-585-1051. Now, we got rumors on the way? Yes, and how is Netflix responding to these demands to pull down Dave Chappelle's special? We'll tell you what the co-CEO has to say.

All right, we'll get into that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about.

It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun.

Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine.

I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia.

Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tried my country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God.

What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments.

Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is the Rumor Report with Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. Well, people are still torn on how they feel about Dave Chappelle's special, The Closer. But a top Netflix executive, co-CEO Ted Sarandos, says that they are not going to pull down that special off of Netflix.

He told managers that some talent may join third parties in calling for the show's removal, and he said, we are not going to do that. And so as much as people are saying, pull it down, pull it down, it's not going to happen. He made some statements about stand-up comedy that I thought were really dope. What'd he say? Basically, I'm paraphrasing it. He basically said that's about stand-up comedy that I thought were really dope. What'd he say? Basically, I don't know. I'm paraphrasing it. He basically said that's what stand-up comedy is for. It's here to, you know, push the limit. I just hope he feels like that about everybody,

not just Dave Chappelle. Yeah, I mean, I also think that when it comes to comedy and pushing the limit, there has to be, like, thoughtfulness and purpose behind what you say, because some people just say things for the sake of being shocking, too. And if it's not funny and it's not thoughtful, then it doesn't work. Even if it's funny and thoughtful, it can still offend. And I mean, and it's still and it still

can offend. But I think that if it's based in something and it's going to still be divisive. Right. And Flay Monroe was actually on Don Lemon. And here's what she had to say about Dave Chappelle. And I think that he has opened up an opportunity for us to come to the table and have real conversations, Don, about this. The problem is we keep sending disgruntled, angry people with their fist balls up and they face it with an attitude to come to the table. If you come to the table already with an attitude, you will never hear what I'm saying. And I will never hear what you're saying. If we don't take the time to have real conversations with real people in the community that represent, you can't come with an already agenda. So we can let down the smoke screen between us and them so that we're just being us.

He pretty much said that we are so much more alike than we are different and I'm telling you, you hear what you want to hear. Drop on the clues box with Flame Monroe. That's why I love Flame. Flame is always down to have a conversation a dialogue So we can get to a place of understanding That's why flames podcast is appropriately called laugh and learn and it's available on the black effect. I heart radio podcast network Thank you. All right now as far as there was some other people who were speaking out in the family of Daphne who is the LGBTQ person that she that Dave Chappelle addresses in The Closer. He refers to Daphne who killed herself while under attack for sticking up for Dave Chappelle

over some of his earlier things that he had to say about the trans community. Here is actually what Dave Chappelle had to say on The Closer about Daphne. One of the coolest people I ever met was a transgender woman. Lived in San Francisco. Daphne Dorman is her name. I would do 18 shows in the Bay and she would be there. was a transgender woman, lived in San Francisco. Daphne Dorman is her name. I would do 18 shows in the Bay, and she would be there, a white trans woman, laughing loud and hard at everything I said, especially the trans jokes.

And one night after one of the shows I met her, turns out it was her dream to be a comedian, and I was her hero. It was very moving. I could not dislike somebody that felt that way about me. We became fast friends. And when I made that special Sticks and Stones, right as it was coming out, I happened to be in San Francisco and I wanted to do a show. But I needed an opening act.

So I called her on the phone. And she was like, f*** yeah. All right. In addition, here is what Dave Chappelle had to say about Daphne actually taking her own life. When Sticks and Stones came out, a lot of people in the trans community were furious with me. And the hardest thing for a person to do is go against their tribe. But Daphne did that for me. And when she did that, the trans community dragged that bitch all over Twitter. But six days after that wonderful night I described to you, my friend

Daphne killed herself. I don't know if it was them dragging her. I don't know what's going on in her life, but I bet dragging her didn't help. This is a good conversation. What do you mean? This sparks a really good conversation. You can't tell people how to react and you can't tell people what should

and shouldn't offend them, but I wonder if the folks who are outraged know that their intentions are actually malicious. Dave Chappelle's are not. So Dave says something. His intention is to be funny. You reply to Dave, but your intention is actually to be hurtful because you feel Dave hurt you. But what if that hurt you were projecting that you took out on Dave and Daphne contributed to her taking her life? Now, Daphne's sisters have since defended Dave Chappelle.

They said, Dave loved my sister and is an LGBTQ ally. His entire set was begging to end this very situation. And what he's saying to the LGBTQ family is, I see you. Do you see me? I'm mourning my friend in the best way I know how. Can you see me? Can you allow me that? And she called the set

a call to come together. And according to, you know, other messages, Becky, who is Daphne's sister, also said she did not find his jokes rude, crude, off-coloring, off-putting, anything. She thought his jokes were funny. And Daphne understood humor and comedy. She was not offended. Why would her family be offended? So that is the family speaking out and anyone from the trans community responded to you know possibly that rhetoric uh you know pushing Daphne over the edge her being you know now I haven't seen I haven't seen people address that specifically but I did see that Netflix has suspended three employees and those three employees did crash a meeting of its top executives, including a trans person who criticized the Dave Chappelle special. Tara Field, a senior software engineer based in San Francisco, was among those who were suspended for crashing this meeting.

Field identifies as queer and trans and had actually done a series of posts on Twitter saying, I work at Netflix. Yesterday we launched another Chappelle special where he attacks the trans community and at the very validity of transness, all while trying to pit us against other marginalized groups. You're going to hear a lot of talk about offense. We are not offended. Being trans is actually pretty funny if you're someone who actually knows about the subject matter and goes on to discuss the reasons why she is offended. Now, other people who were offended by this, T.S.

Madison had some things to say on social media. Now, T.S. Madison has actually not seen the special, but here's what she had to say. Bitch, what I said was I was not watching it because i was exhausted with the conversations wrapped around it and i also said you can't tell people what to be offended by i said if you motherf***** got feel some type of way about anything that you've seen or any whatever and you feel something about so bitch i stay strapped y'all bitches be all on my page with this damn transphobic ass this is the rhetoric that comes with it. I mean, how can we get to a place of understanding? We can't stay in this space of just going back and forth with each other, right?

Like, it's got to be a conversation that's had to get everybody to a proper place of understanding. Because I don't think anybody's intention is to see anybody harmed or want anybody harmed, right? Right. Well, you know, the conversation is happening. I mean, that's something. It's happening, but I just want to know what's the end goal. Like, what's the place of understanding? Are we trying to get there or are we just all, you know, yelling and screaming at each other?

Well, we can continue to discuss this morning, but that is your rumor report. All right. We got front page news next. What are we talking about? Yes. Are you planning to get this booster shot? Well, there might be some more things that are being cleared to make it more accessible for you. All right.

We'll get into that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Our Audible pick of the day is Seven Years by Tariq Trotter. One of hip hop's greatest emcees narrates his life story in this beat-driven memoir. It's part of Audible's Words of Music series.

Your first 30 days of Audible are free when you sign up at audible.com slash breakfast club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get some front page news. And Monday Night Football, the Ravens beat the Colts 31-25. Now, what else are we talking about, Yee? Well, a TikTok user named Brianna had some issues when her toddler actually put her on Instagram Live while she was taking a shower. So, her young daughter accidentally broadcast her.

She said she gave her toddler her cell phone to play a game while she was in the shower. It was a preschool learning game that she plays often. Next thing I know, she's knocking on my door asking me to help her fix something. I, of course, tell her to come in so I can help so she can keep playing. She hands me the phone while I'm in the shower. How many followers do you have? She said no idea how many people saw it. She said I deleted it so quick I didn't see any of that. Goodness gracious. And just to put it out there, a lot of people are talking about this,

this feature called guided access, which can restrict an iPhone to a single app. So you guys can have that on there. If you let your child play with your cell phone. All right. Now the United States is moving closer to clearing Moderna and Johnson and Johnson for these COVID booster shots. And they're saying panel is meeting this week to debate these extra doses

and they're hoping that these booster shots will ensure long-term and durable protection against covid they said even with delta the current vaccines are holding up quite well as far as hospitalization and severe disease so more than seven million americans have gotten a booster dose in the u.s as as of Saturday. And a Wisconsin parent is suing the school district after their son came down with COVID from sitting next to an unmasked classmate who was infected with COVID. So the Waukesha School District and school board are defendants in the federal case. It's filed on behalf of Shannon Jensen and other parents, and that district is being bankrolled by a super PAC that is started by a local brewery owner. They are seeking an injunction

that would force the school district to implement safety recommendations by the U.S. CDC that would reduce the spread of COVID-19. So it was another lawsuit that's been filed. You don't want your kids to have to sit next to somebody who could potentially have COVID and then they end up getting COVID. They want to make sure that classmates have to wear masks. Alright, and that is your Front Page News. Thank you, Ms. Yee. Now when we come back,

who are we talking to? We got the founder and CEO of Union, Mr. Jason Wilson. He trains and develops young black men, teaches black men how to deal with their trauma through martial arts. He's got a documentary coming out with Lawrence Fishburne about his life. You've seen him on Dr. I, CNN, heard him on Joe Rogan, The Today Show. And now you're about to listen to him on The Breakfast Club.

I love Jason Wilson. He spoke at my Mental Wealth Expo this past Sunday. All right. We'll get into that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy.

We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest joining us right now. Yes, Jason Wilson. He's the founding CEO of Union. OK, Jason has over 14 years of experience, you know, training and developing young black men. You've probably seen his videos on Instagram where he teaches, you know, young black men how to deal with their trauma through martial arts. He's got two great books out, Cry Like a Man and Battle Cry. You've probably heard him on the Joe Rogan podcast. You've seen him on CNN, Dr. Oz. He spoke at my Mental Wealth Expo this past Sunday, and now he's on The Breakfast Club.

Mr. Jason Wilson, good morning, brother. Good morning, my brother. How are you? All is well, man. I love New York. Love walking early in the morning here, and especially late at night, give me time to really reflect

and release things that I need to let go of. Well, you wrote a couple of books, Cry Like a Man and now Battle Cry. Why is crying such a theme? It was imperative for me that I learned how because my life, well, I was self-destructive pretty much about to lose my marriage and my family. And I didn't know how to not only express them, but to even process what I was feeling. So I was only taught to express it through

either fighting or really suppressing it. And as a result, man, I lost it one day, man. And demonstrably yelled at my wife in the kitchen, hit a hole in my refrigerator. And I just, I had to make a change. And when I saw my wife, I saw her go from trusting me and loving me to her whole spirit was torn down in front of me. And at that very moment, I realized I had a problem. And that problem was I wasn't a comprehensive man. I was just a masculine male. And I needed to learn how to express the gamut of emotions that God has given me, you know, more so than just being strong, a protector and provider. I needed to express being a nurturer, express being compassionate, loving, long-suffering. You know, when Kobe Bryant died in a helicopter accident with Gianna and nine

others, we didn't see a lot of pictures of him playing basketball. We saw him operating as a nurturer. And then a hashtag girl dad went viral. Over a million, 1.2 million men posted pictures of themselves loving their daughters. And so we've always been nurturers, but we've allowed society to define us as men just by one adjective, which is masculinity, but we're more than masculine. Can we talk about your background a little? Because this is our first time meeting. So I know that you have this youth organization in Detroit Union, but I want to talk about you and how you started doing this work. Yes. Well, I started actually was a popular DJ in Detroit and actually did a few concerts with Public Enemy.

I was in a rap group called Chaos and Maestro. So the union nonprofit started as a record label. And so we would use, as a Christian, I would use the music to counter what, at the current time, what we would call like gangster hip hop. And I saw the negative impact it was having on youth. And so we created music to counter it, but we realized quickly that once the music stopped, they still had to deal with the trauma. And so we're like,

man, we need to stay in their lives. We need to get in the schools more. So we went after our nonprofit status. And in 2007, we received our first grant for mentoring through the government. And we haven't looked back since. And currently we've reached over 15,000 youth and young adults in Detroit and we just purchased a 15,000 square foot building due to the demand of the Cave of Adullam which is the transformational training academy where I use martial arts to help young boys navigate through their emotions instead of succumbing to them. When did you get into martial arts and was that a way of channeling anger? Yes. So it was interesting when my good friend, she was shot and killed when I was in the eighth grade and we didn't have grief counselors or anyone come to our school. And I didn't know how to process what I was feeling. So I gravitated toward ninjutsu at the time I was 12 years old.

But then I quickly realized if I only process my anger by hitting things, whenever that anger arise, I start hitting things and hitting people. And so from that day on, because I didn't have my father around, he was in the same city but wasn't in my life, I saw the sensei as a father figure, and I longed to have that affirmation and teach me how to be a man. And it helped me with some processing, some of the training, combat communication, which I talk about in Battle Cry, and fighting. If we're getting ready

to fight, I'm downloading all of your moves, your angle. If you move on my jab or my kick, I'm seeing how your defense is. I use that in communication with my wife. I try to read the room. How is she feeling today? Is this a good time for me to share with her how all of my emotions that were, would it overload her? And so instead of, uh, sometimes when you become emotionally free, when you break free from emotional incarceration, we can come home and unload too much on someone who already had a heavy day. And so I've learned to use combat communication to read, excuse me, read my wife, read my son. You know, he's quiet today. What's going on with you? Instead of yelling at him. Now, I want to ask you about for women who are dealing with a man who may be experiencing trauma or doesn't identify ways that he can

improve his own communication. What advice do you have for women that have to deal with that? My wife, a lot of people ask her that because it was all new for us, you know? And so the first thing I would say is that we as men, we not only have to unlearn what we've been conditioned to believe a man is, but also our women. And we have to give our wives and our women the grace and the space needed to do so because you've been also programmed to see a man a certain way. My wife had never seen a man cry until me, you know, and so that's number one is to unlearn what you've been taught to believe. Number two, never impassively dismiss your husband or your significant other's emotion. When he come to you, he's trying to open up. He's trying to become comprehensive and whole.

The worst thing a woman could do is shut him down or I'm busy. Can I come back to that? When you see that door opening like like, okay, cool. He's allowing me access to that heart. And then lastly is to listen without expectation. That's what she would say. She says, listen to your husband's or your significant other's heart. Like it's your girlfriend. Be slow to speak, quick to listen. But I said, you also need to know how to allow your wife to help you through that process.

Can you break down what is emotional incarceration? It is a self-imposed imprisonment, a mental prison that a man confines his non-masculine emotions and his true heart from the world to keep him from hurting others and even himself. And what's interesting about emotional incarceration, and we all as men, we can admit this, there is no door keeping us locked in. We choose to stay in there. And because we have to face or acknowledge feelings or traumas or emotional pain that we don't feel comfortable with, we choose to stay in there.

And a lot of good men are tired of being bad guys. Even myself, man, I would suppress all of my emotions, you know, and because that's what I was taught. And because of that, even myself, man, I, I would suppress all of my emotions, you know, and because that's what I was taught. And because of that, I didn't even, they not only know how to love my wife and my children, bro, I didn't know how to love myself. And that self-hate caused me not to really be available for my wife. And as I share at the Mental Wealth Expo, she had five miscarriages and I was checked out. I didn't know how to express the hurt or anything. To this day it bothers me.

We should say we had five miscarriages. No, I say she had. And I should have been there but I was emotionally checked out. But now it's truly a blessing to be able to drop my guard with a woman who really holds my heart with care. Alright, we got more with Jason Wilson

when we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still talking with Jason Wilson. Charlamagne.

The things you say in regards to your wife are so relatable. And it's the same reason I got myself together, too, because, you know, I didn't want to be like my pops. And, you know, I saw the pain my pops caused my mom. You know what I mean? And I saw how, you know, them getting divorced affected the family. So why are so many men just comfortable with saying, you know what? Yeah, I'm married, but I'm still cheat. I'm still have a whole other family out here.

Another girl. Like, why is that? OK, you think this is a feckless attempt for affirmation. And so, you know, again, we taught, you know, masculinity as well. Being a man is having multiple women. My father told me, I was going to him prior, saying, hey, Dad, I'm about to engage to Nicole. He said, why in the hell you want to do that?

When I confronted my dad about cheating on my mom, my dad said oh you only got one girlfriend he said one day you're going to understand hey and i told my dad i told him i said i don't want to end up like you you're broke you're still having to cut hair dad in your 60s because you've had three marriages that failed because you didn't have any sexual self-control damn but when we when i allowed my father developed parkinson's i finally was able to get a relationship with him because he couldn't go anywhere. So when we finally sat and talked, he shared with me the pain of growing up and feeling lacking in so many areas. He was called to preach. He told guys, there's no way on earth I'm going to do that because he came up in the 60s

when the cops cracked down on the pimps in Detroit. Many of them became pastors. So he said, the last thing I'm going to do is be one of these guys. But because of that, he never really knew how to express what he was going through and what he felt. And that's why Sharon Battlecry too, as where we are now as men, we got to go back and reach and help our fathers learn how to process what they're dealing with. So you got to think my grandfather, not my great grandfather, great, great grandfather, my grandfather was lynched, beaten and lynched or great-great-grandfather, my grandfather was lynched, beaten and lynched. And then after his lynching, my mother's family was terrorized by the police to ensure that none of them would ever feel like they're equal to white people in Fort

Pierce, Florida. I saw that trauma transfer throughout generation, throughout generation. And until I allow my dad that freedom to be human, I didn't hear him say he loved me until 37 years of age. I told my dad and it didn't make sense to me at the time. He's laying in his bed and the Holy Spirit told me, he says, tell your father, thank him for being a great dad. That doesn't make sense to me. But what my father needed was affirmation. So I leaned over to him while he was laying in his bed and I said, I said, dad, I said, thank you for being a great dad.

So I was walking out and I heard him like getting heavy in his breath and I turned around and I saw the strongest man in my life crying. He finally had a release and this is tough one. So I went back over to him. I held his hand and I kissed him on his forehead and he wouldn't let me go. And he says, son, he says, I love you. And that there, it removes so many shackles off of me and it freed me to really live from my heart instead of my fears, instead of trying to live up to this limited definition of what a man is. Now I can be a comprehensive man, which is a man who is courageous

but also compassionate, strong but sensitive, a man who can boldly but freely live from his heart instead of his fears. How important is it for men to give other men positive affirmations? Because I thought about this after the Mental Wealth Expo because a lot of stuff came up for me when we was on the panel having a conversation that's why that's why the tears came because it's like just listening to you tell me oh i'm proud of you yada yada i'm like damn yo i i didn't i didn't get that the way i wanted to growing up from my father so even just hearing it from another black man that you respect is like whoa it gets you emotional and whether we realize it or not we man that you respect is like, whoa, it gets you emotional.

And whether we realize it or not, we do that all the time. That's why we go get the cars. Exactly. Sleep with a bunch of different women. We want other men to give us affirmation. Like I said, it's a feckless attempt for affirmation, even with women. You know, it's like we call you trophy wives and all this other foolishness. You were created.

You're not meant to be objects. You know what I'm saying? you were created you're not meant to be objects you know saying it but it's when we objectify women that that a lot when i saw that evil that's what allowed me to break free from pornography because again to have this right in front of you where you feel you can have control over the most beautiful woman in the world i didn't know how to really give a woman my heart but when i allowed myself to be free i started cherishing women for who they are, even their superior qualities, not their equal qualities, because my wife runs our nonprofit. If it wasn't for her, I look at the stuff we do now. That's because I allowed my wife to operate

in the fullness of who she is. I don't need you to be just at home with my children. God has created you to lead this organization, this ministry. And then eventually, I hope she gets her own health center. The goal for us to even be healed, brother, and I was sharing this at the expo, for us to heal as black men, I want us to heal so we can finally decrease what's going on inside of us so that our sisters can finally unload the weight and emotional pain that they've been enduring for decades. Now, as far as affirmation, it's so important, especially with our boys. You

know, I remember I had one kid when I piloted the Cave of Adullam. The principal introduced me to this young man by all negative descriptions. I took that young man and for 24 weeks affirmed him, poured into him, taught him how to meditate, release the anger, the frustration, and actually the hurt of not having a father there. He smoked about two blunts a week. This was an eighth grader. His grade point average was.8. Within 24 weeks, his whole life changed and he graduated because I affirmed him and who he was, even the young man he didn't see. They saw the prankster. I saw someone who could negotiate, who's wise, who's clever. They saw someone anger. I saw a young man who would fight against

injustice, who would defend kids who were bullied. That's what affirmation does. I thank you for who you are. And I meant everything that I said, man, I'm proud of you. And that's why I affirmed you. And we need to affirm each other that way. And then more so, as I told our brother Van Lathan, when I was on his podcast, we're so quick to just deflect it or just hear, no, you're the man too. I love what you're doing. Like, no, I want you to hold that brother because you're doing some great things. And I want you to really embrace who you are as a man. And that's all I ever wanted, man. And that's why I'm thankful. I finally allowed my wife access to here because what causes men to really drift away, you want to feel important. You want to feel loved, but is

if you don't work as hard as you do in the community in your home how do you expect those in your home to give you the accolades that you desire when you're working twice as hard for those who don't even live with you that's right you said something so powerful yesterday at the mental wealth expo and Mac Maxwell asked you um what's the definition of a man how do you define a man yeah I said no you can't define. Once you allow yourself to be defined, you can't be anything and everything you have to be at any given moment. That's the goal of a man.

That's comprehensive man. I want to be able to morph between transforming to everything that I need to be for to accomplish my mission here on Earth, for my family, for you, for my sister, for my brother, my brother. And that's the goal. Once you allow yourself to be defined, you've just cut off your potential. And so I tell people to live, I was telling the man, live from what we long for instead of what we lack. We tend to blame our fathers for not being there, what we didn't have. And now we bring that stuff to the present. We allow our trauma to time travel, live in the present so you can fully be there. And that's the key, man. If you only feel as a man that you're only a protector and provider, are you going to be there for your family? How can you have a relationship with your wife? And you're only, you can only manifest two attributes. You're extremely limited.

A friend of mine compared it to that crayon boxes the ones of eight and the ones of 64 as men We take out three crayons at the one at eight and we said we're gonna stay in that that area because it feels comfortable It's safe, but the most high created us to exude all 64 and even more You know we got more with Jason Wilson when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody It's DJ Envy Angela Yee Charlamagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still talking with Jason Wilson. Yee.

You also have a documentary that you've been working on, right? Yeah. Can you tell us something about that? Yeah, that's really exciting. I signed with Lawrence Fishburne's film company, Cinema Gypsy, to do a documentary film on my work with Boys in the Cave of Adullam. We submitted it to Sundanceance and so we're waiting to hear back from them but it's supposed to release next year and we're really excited you get to see them follow four of my boys and you see the effects of intergenerational trauma but

then you see it broken and it's so powerful it's beautiful how do black and brown people learn to stop wearing trauma as if it's a badge of honor? Acknowledge that there's nothing good about it. There's nothing honorable about getting shot. There's nothing honorable about hating each other, mean mugging, not being able to say, how you doing, my brother? How you doing, my sister? There's nothing honorable about, I guess, just the pain that we've been through i mean we look at it as like you know especially i love hip-hop i came up in the culture we brag about getting shot we don't

brag about living in a good neighborhood we brag about being in the roughest neighborhoods and so until we recognize that this isn't how it's supposed to be. Yes, trauma will happen to all of us, but it's not the black experience. As we always say, you know, just as trauma can be passed down through our generation, so can healing. But we first have to renew our minds. We have to allow for me. It took for me to ask the most how to break me, break away my stubborn will, the evil in my heart. I didn't want to be his light to the world to help those who are in darkness see. And so until I allowed him to break me, I wasn't able to see that all that I've been through, the stuff that even for my benefit today wasn't meant for me to stay there. So when

traumatizing things happen, we have to let go and keep moving forward but a lot of us we stay there because we fear moving forward because of something else traumatizing may happen and so as a black people we got to start living from what we desire in here the goodness in here we love each other man we we do we just have to learn how to express it and there's nothing weak or docile about telling you i love you telling you i love you and who you are i'm proud of you i need help i'm hurting just because something is wrong with me doesn't mean something is wrong so when we get to that place where we understand okay we can break through what we've been through that's when you'll see us rise together my final question,

as your profile raises, how does your wife feel about all these women calling you zaddy? I didn't know they called me that. I didn't know they called me that. You be seeing them on Instagram. Oh, man. My wife and I have a very

transparent relationship. If she feels something isn't right, she'll say it, you know. But this is a funny story. One day I met Halle Berry, all right. And I took a video for my daughter because my daughter, you know, was into modeling at the time. And so I called Nicole. I said, hey, I met Halle Berry. She's like, really?

Where was she at? And I told her at this conference. So we get off the phone and her friend was like, oh, so your husband is with Holly Berry? And she was like, yeah. And she kept looking at my wife. So my wife called back and she says, are you okay? Because, you know, Holly Berry was attractive. Like she was our generation's Lena Horne.

But my wife was like, are you okay? Because I know she's beautiful. And I know, you know, you together, you good? I'm like, yeah, I'm good. And we both laughed about it. But the beautiful thing when I got home and I looked at my wife, I said, dang, you look better than her. You see what I'm saying, Mr. Wilson?

And so when she knows, my wife, she affirms me man and i fight it i'm still growing bro i don't like dang how do you what you she had touched my face all gentle i'm like what are you doing inside that's why i'm cringing because i'm thinking when my father told me i wasn't nothing and to have a woman caress my face and to tell me i'm beautiful and she loves me and as a man you look in your mirror you see your flaws you ain't big enough you ain't buff enough you ain't smart enough what can any of these women give me man what's a night of sex i'm gonna i'm gonna give away everything that i got just to have a moment with a woman that's not peace to me that's chaos i ain't got time to have three cell phones.

I don't have the energy for that. We chasing a sense of worthiness that we can't get from another woman. Like, that's feeding your ego. Being with your wife, that's feeding your soul. Yeah, she's a part of me, man. And so, you know, yeah, they'll flirt. You can see them. They'll look at you.

But I don't have an available look. You know, a lot of brothers who struggle with infidelity, y'all look available. You look like they can holler at you. I consciously make sure I don't look available. I don't. What does that look like? You know, I practice with my sister. You know, we talking.

I'm like, you know what I'm talking about. Let me see. He's got his ring on, so that's already. Okay, so I do this. Okay, I take my sister. You know, we talking. I'm like, you know what I'm talking about. Let me see. He's got his ring on, so that's already. Okay, so I do this. Okay, I take my ring off, but I'm not, I'm talking to you,

but it's respectful. How you doing? I shake your hand. That's right. I'm not doing this. How you doing? I'm not doing all that. I'm like, how you doing?

It's a pleasure to meet you. I'm proud of you. Thank you. I'm proud of you too. What are you doing later? No, I'm kidding. I said I'm calling my wife. I'm telling of you. Thank you. I'm proud of you too. What are you doing later? No, I'm kidding. I said I'm calling my wife.

I'm telling you right now, taking that ring off and then having the conversation does not make you less available. That's true. But the look is the spirit. It's the vibe. That's why I tell my brothers, one of my friends, Stan, back in the day, he said, man, these women be on me. I'm trying to be faithful. I said, you look like you want them to. And he started laughing and we was in the gym i said look at you he was

like i get it dog you come in here every day with great sweatpants on okay and so you know and and that's my my thing i just you know um i i love our I do. And they need a man who doesn't want to get between their legs just to talk to them and affirm them. That's right. To hear from just a man who just wants to affirm you for who you are. Not because you're beautiful. I'm trying to holler at you. Man, these women would just, you know, I just, you know, that's why I say, man, when we can get healed, keep doing those expos, man. I mean, just we got to continue to do what we do.

But when we can get healed, we got to sit down and open the space for our sisters to heal. And that's when you're going to start seeing transformation. When we both can truly find that and get that healing we desire. And our families become whole. Then our communities can change. And then you got the world. I'm so extra grateful for the men in my life who do affirm me and have positive things to say to me. Families become whole. Then our communities can change. And then you got the world. Jason. I'm so extra grateful for like the men in my life who do affirm me and have positive things to say to me.

And it's not for any reason other than they really feel that way. And I don't feel anything crazy from them. I know their families. I know their wives and significant others. And it's completely comfortable. And I'm so appreciative all the time of people that are like, yo, Angela, you're really doing your thing. I'm so proud of you. I'm going to come support.

Like, it means a lot to me. Yes, and that's awesome. Because sometimes people feel like men and women can't have these relationships where there's nothing going on. And if you could take a picture with somebody, like, oh, yeah, he trying to holler. And you're like, dude, come on. Just because he's a man doesn't mean that that's what it is.

Just because somebody can affirm you. But people sometimes are scared to even do that. Yeah, but the more men who model it, the more men will feel comfortable and say, okay, this is what a man is. And that's what our women need, even at the union. Just affirm and love them. I got you. Don't worry about that.

I ain't trying to holler at you they need brothers they need men in their lives that they feel that they got their back you know and they ain't always wanting something you know and so i uh i went i did a what is it called virtual reality i was at this conference and they they put put me in a headset where i saw through the eyes of a woman at work and it showed how many like advances men were making to this woman throughout the day and from the handshake to just having conversation I'm like damn it can you just just respect me as a woman affirm me just as a woman instead you just trying to get between my legs you know and so I'm glad you have men like that. I try to make myself available for the women in my life the same way, you know? And it's so needed as men that, again,

as long as we're seeking affirmation in the wrong places, and that's what I did for the longest, we'll never truly respect our women for the queens, the jewels, the gifts that they truly are. That's right. To Yi's point, I mean, that's why I'd be so happy. I got so many women that call me their brother or their uncle because I really wear that as a badge of honor.

I want to be there for them in that way, and I'm glad they see me in that way. Yeah, they need it, and we need women. When my mother passed, man, I needed a nurturer. I needed to allow older women and my wife access to my heart in that way, you know? And so, and I don't need women's sisters trying to holler at me. I need a sister sometimes. I have women who pray for me, man. They ain't trying to holler at me. They praying for me. And they say, we know what you're doing. We got you. I'm like, I feel invigorated. You know,

I'm ready to go. And my wife doesn't mind it, man. And so, you know, again, our minds need to be renewed so that we can truly live from the good in our hearts. His name is Jason Wilson. Give him your Twitters and Instagrams and all that good stuff, bro. My handle throughout all social media is MrJasonOWilson. That's M-R-J-A-S-O-N, the letter O-W-I-L-S-O-N. And I want to thank you for doing the Mental Wealth Expo yesterday. I couldn't even have done an event like that and not have you there because you're such a leader in this space, man.

And you inspire me and you make me want to be a better man. Every time I hear you speak, every time I read your books, seeing you on Instagram, everything. So I just thank God for your existence, brother. Thank you. Feeling is mutual. Thank you. And it was really powerful yesterday. And I look forward to being at the next one brother yes sir thank you pleasure meeting you finally jason wilson it's the breakfast club listen up it's just in oligarchs the rumor report Well, Lala is speaking for the first time about her divorce.

She was on with Angie Martinez, and she explained about keeping it private for a while, how it made her feel. Here's what she said. I still have my moments, but for the most part, I can talk about it now and laugh about it and find you know the humor in it all otherwise I'll be a basket case were you really bad I was bad because it was public I was bad because there were other people involved that was bad because there were allegations it was it got bad and you

know I'm not a person to ever put my business on social media I'm not a person who ever I've never spoke the first time I've spoken but you're my friend and I'm comfortable but it's like, you know, so many times you do want to say, oh, you guys really want to know what happened? You want to hear it from me, but you hold it in and it's like, oh, La is doing good. She looked good on the gram. It's like, no, that hit me really hard.

Oh, La La. And then in addition to that she also talked about her post that she does on Instagram and what her DM's looking like. I am in a new phase and chapter in my life like I didn't think at this phase I would be entering into being single and so now I got to readjust so I can't be out here looking Crazy, I'll try get some DMS pop and I'm trying to see what's going on Only imagine what is happening in Lala's Ds right now. Can you tell me one thing? They don't have to tell the person.

I can pull DMs up with friends of mine, and it's the same message in each one of our DMs from a person. Like, what are you just copying and pasting? I bet you it was somebody super high profile, too. Ding, ding, ding. Dropping the clues bombs for La Lazy. La Lazy is a group chat favorite, meaning that if you're in a group chat with, like, guys, you'll see a Lala picture float across the group chat favorite. Meaning that if you're in a group chat with guys,

you'll see a La La picture float across the group chat timeline. A lot. She's definitely a group chat favorite. All right, well, that's good. She waited until she was more comfortable to speak about it to actually do it, and then she did it in a safe environment with Angie. So I think that's great. And I have to be honest, I'm a snitch.

I do be telling her. Who be? Telling what? Posting her in the group chat. You be posting Lala? Oh, you can't tell other people stuff that happens in the group text. That's against policy. From what she said, though. My friends be in the group text like,

delete this after. She just said, she just told you on the edge that she's out here. She's trying to figure it out. Delete this after. Some people tell. Alright, you know, she's trying to figure it out. Delete this after. And then we see some people tell. All right, now let's talk about Superman. John Kent,

the son of the original Superman, Clark Kent, and journalist Lois Lane, turned out to be bisexual. So according to the writer, Tom Taylor, he said, it's not a gimmick.

When I was offered this job, I thought, well, if we're going to have a new Superman for the DC universe, it feels like a missed opportunity to have another straight white savior. And he said, we don't want this to be DC Comics creates new queer Superman. We want this to be Superman finds himself, becomes Superman, and then comes out.

And I think that's a really important distinction. Now, according to Taylor, reactions have been mostly positive. He said, I'm seeing tweets of people saying they burst into tears when they read the news that they wished that Superman was this when they were growing up, that they could see themselves. People are saying for the first time ever, they're seeing themselves as Superman, something they never thought was possible. So he's a super top or super bottom?

Does not say, but he's bisexual. When y'all read comics as kids, did they have any sexuality in the comics? Anybody dating man, woman, woman? I mean, Superman was dating Lois Lane. Clark Kent? No, you like uh lgbtq relationship yeah yes there was there was ones i wasn't in the comics uh what's the what's the young lady that um uh plays on thor what's her name the character tessa thompson plays i can't remember her name right now i slept in my mind okay and uh there was always rumors that deadpool deadpool was bisexual bisexual which they'll probably explore in future comics

so yeah it's not a stretch it's not like the things that they're doing now are scratches I mean that's new but yes there's characters, I'm a Marvel guy, I'm not a DC guy but there's characters in the Marvel universe that have been LGBTQ historically Alright now let's talk about being offended by labels

Demi Lovato is saying that the label Alien is offensive when referring to extraterrestrials. Now we can flash back to a previous interview where she actually addressed this. Demi, could you please clear up this fan theory that you have an unreleased song titled Aliens? I do not have a song called Aliens. I wish. That sounds good. Yeah, it sounds cool but but it would be called ets yeah my fans should know that i do not call them aliens because alien is a derogatory term for anything that's so even extraterrestrials which is why i call them ets

does she have a conversation with an alien that he said he was offended or she said that they were offended by that term the woke gotta get some man, because when you don't get no sleep, you just be mad tired and you just be saying silly stuff, man. Like, yes, you're right. And we don't know what beings from other planets want to be called. We've identified a whole potential population of beings with words. I'm sure they don't use to identify themselves. And now we're trying to convince ourselves that they are offended by words

that we made up to call them. So we can't call aliens aliens anymore? I don't know. I wonder if it's because people are offended, actual people who... I'm offended by your phone going off every morning at 8 o'clock. Well, get my parking situation right. But I wonder if it's because the term alien is offensive when referring to people who are coming from other countries. Like, that's an offensive term.

So I wonder if she just thinks the term alien. I don't know. But I think when it comes to extraterrestrials. We don't even know what extraterrestrials want to be called. We're calling them extraterrestrials. We don't even know if that's their name. We've made all of these terms up to describe a bunch of beings we've never encountered. What can I call them?

I thought you have. I've seen them before. So you have encountered them. But I didn't call them by their name. I just saw them. I saw a flying saucer before. And I woke up one morning. What did you call them?

One was standing over me. I called it a flying saucer because that'ser before. And I woke up one morning. What did you call him? One was standing over me. I called him a flying saucer because that's the term they gave us to describe it. So what can we call him? Can we call him aliens? Can we call him E.T.? What do we call him? Leave me alone. By the way, the character is Valkyrie from Marvel.

That's who Tessa Thompson plays in Thor. Valkyrie. Okay. Valkyrie is a lesbian. And Loki. Loki is bisexual, too. I don't know if you watched Loki on Disney+. Well, that is your rumor report.

The bottom line is you can't call aliens aliens. Don't call me a bottom. Right? Okay. I hope you referred to super top from here on out. I hate y'all, man. Who you giving your donkey to? John Gruden.

John Gruden needs to come to the front of the congregation, a.k.a. Super Cracker. We need to have a conversation, okay? All right. We'll get into that next. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.k.a. Supercracker. We need to have a conversation, okay? All right. We'll get into that next. The Breakfast Club, good morning. The Breakfast Club.

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Don't be out here acting like a donkey. Yee-haw, bitch. Yee-haw. It's time for Donkey of the Day. I'm a big boy. I can take it. If you feel I deserve it, ain't no big deal. I know Charlamagne Tha God gonna have some funny shit. Say out his mouth. If I say something you may not agree with,

it doesn't mean I'm mean. Who's getting that donkey? That donkey. That donkey. Donkey, donkey, donkey, donkey. That donkey. Donkey. Donkey. Donkey. Donkey of the day right here. It's a breakfast club, bitches. You can call me the donkey of the day, but like, I mean no harm.

Yeah, it's donkey of the day. For Tuesday, October 12th goes the former Raiders coach, John Gruden. Now, if you haven't heard, John Gruden has resigned as head coach of the Raiders after homophobic, misogynistic emails that he wrote between 2010 and 2018 have come out. Let's go to ESPN for the report. John Gruden resigned after the New York Times reported he frequently used misogynistic and anti-gay language in numerous emails before he was hired as coach of the Raiders in 2018.

According to the Times, Gruden sent the emails to Bruce Allen, then the president of the Washington football team, and others during a seven-year period that began in 2011. The NFL sent the Raiders additional Gruden emails to review after the first, which Gruden had been asked about, which included the racial trope about NFLPA executive director DeMora Smith that surfaced last week. Gruden was employed by ESPN as the lead analyst for Monday Night Football at the time that he sent these emails, which are now under review. The comments are clearly repugnant under any circumstance, ESPN said in a statement. Gruden released the following statement, I quote, I've resigned as the head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders. I love the Raiders and do not want to be

a distraction. Thank you to all the players, coaches, staff, and fans of Raider Nation. I'm sorry. I never meant to hurt anyone. This is a teachable moment. It's a teachable moment because life is interesting. Life is just something you simply can't run from because who you truly are in the dark will always come to light. It always does.

This is why I subscribe to one of John Wooden's most famous quotes, be more concerned with your character than your reputation because your character is what you really are. Why your reputation is merely what others think you are. People be so caught up in the reputation of others. So many people out here who present well, who have these reputations of being nice, genuine people, when the reality is they are moving like the John Gruden's of the world behind the scenes. It's nothing, you know, to even take personal.

Okay, he makes jokes using racist tropes. He uses gay slurs to refer to homosexuals. Makes you think what he really thought about Carl Nazib. Is that how you pronounce Carl's last name? Who came out as gay before the start of the season. Okay, he played for Gruden and the Raiders. I would love to see the emails about that move. All right, Gruden doesn't like the emergency female refs.

See, the problem with guys like Gruden is he's not just a bigot. He is actively against the advancement of marginalized communities. Okay. John Gruden said Goodell shouldn't have pressured Jeff Fisher to draft Michael Sam, who was, you know, openly gay man. So to me, he's against the gay man prospering. All right. He doesn't want that gay man to eat.

In my interpretation, according to the emails, Gruden denounced the emergence of female referees. Therefore, he doesn't think that a woman's place, you know, is on the sidelines. Like what other reason would he have to be against that? No other than she's a woman. You know, Gruden also wrote in his emails that Eric Reid, former all pro defensive back, should be fired for protesting during the national anthem. So you don't care about police brutality against black people either. Gruden also criticized the bill that would have forced the Redskins to change their name in 2015. So let's look at the list.

Gay people, women, indigenous people, black people, America. We've seen this movie before. This is what I mean when I say we have to have a decrackification of this country all right the problem is you can change systems but you can't change people's minds but these are the kinds of crack-ass crackers that are in positions of power all throughout america and the problem is there is white people listening to me right now who heard all those things john crew john gruden said and did and they are more mad at me using the word cracker to describe john gruden than they are of all the

Things John Gruden put in those emails that make him a crack ass cracker And you know why is you probably a crack ass cracker, too All right crack is a word is a word used to describe Racist bigots derived from the slave masters used to crack whips on the back of the enslaved go back and watch episode one of The God's honest truth my late-night talk show on Comedy Central. It's titled De-Krakification. You can stream it on Paramount Plus, watch on demand, whatever. But we discuss how the denazification of Germany could apply here in America. Wouldn't be a permanent solution because once again, you can't change people's minds.

But it's a step in the right direction to real healing. And that is what is happening right now. See, the universe is trying to heal itself. I truly believe that. And you can't heal what you don't reveal. So whatever you truly are will be revealed because the universe is flushing things out and bringing things to the forefront. That's why once again, you should focus on character, not reputation, because character is who you really are. Reputation is who people think you are. And reputation can be created, okay, through smoke and mirrors.

That's why I don't believe anything I hear or see about people, because folks present one way in person and be like John Gruden behind the scenes. And some people's presentation might be horrible, but in real life, they are the nicest, most genuine people, okay? So just sit back. There's a lot of people that we misjudged who we said were trash who are about to be revealed as really great humans and it's a lot of people who present as really great humans who will be revealed as trash john gruden is just the

first of many because if we don't decrackify america the universe will do it for us please Forrest, please give John Gruden the biggest hee-haw. Just sit back. Just sit back and watch the reveal. Cracker ass cracker! Okay, okay, okay, okay. Matter of fact, why didn't I let Chelsea Handler give John Gruden the biggest hee-haw? I'm sipping. Hee-haw, hee-haw. That is way too much Dan Mayonnaise.

Kathy Griffin, you get in on this too. Please give this giant jar of mayo the biggest hee-haw. And Chris Rock one more time for reiteration. Crack it, ass cracker. Thank you. Thank you. All right. All right.

You've been getting hot a lot recently, man. Patting your head. Menopause, bro. I'm 43. Menopause. Butt don't bleed no more? All right. All right. Well, let's open up the phone lines let's uh slander the breakfast club you know we do this uh once every once a weekend we allow people to open up the phone lines and if you have a problem with the breakfast club me

ye or charlamagne you can tell us what your problem is 800-585-1051 phone lines are wide open whatever your problem is with us three this is-1051. Phone lines are wide open. Whatever your problem is with us three, this is when we open up the phone lines and allow you to just say what your problem is. It's slander the breakfast club, right? Do it right now. The number again is 800-585-1051. Something that you don't like about Charlemagne, ye, or myself. You got to start with me.

All right. Me, ye, or Charlemagne. There you go. I'll put you in the middle. Me, Charlemagne. Actually, I like being the top. I'm super top. Me, he, or Charlamagne. There you go. I'll put you in the middle. Me, Charlamagne. Actually, I like being the top. I'm super top. No, put me back on super top. Nope, nope, nope. Yes, yes, yes. Nope. Yes. Call us now at The Breakfast Club.

Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Keep The Breakfast Club humble with Slant and The Breakfast Club. Tell them be humble. I'm sick of it. The truth hurt, though. Hello, who's this?

Yo, this is Dave from Detroit, man. What's up, Dave? What up, dope? What up, dope? What up, man? I got something for Angelique, man. I think the whole world ready to hear this. Go.

Where her man at, man? She always worried about somebody else's relationship. What's up with her relationship? Where her man at? He must be deaf. She talks about's relationship. What's up with her relationship? Where her man at? He must be deaf. She talks about her, man. All the time. He's asleep right now, actually.

Oh, for real? Yeah. He married? Y'all married? No. Okay, okay. Yeah, I think he's been waiting to hear that. You always in somebody else's business.

I had to get that off my chest. I don't ever hear about your relationship. Oh, well, you got to listen a little harder, sir. Hello, who's this? It's G. G, what's up, man? Slam to the Breakfast Club. What's good, man?

Breakfast Club, what's good? What up, bro? Sona, man. Yes, sir. What's happening, King? Nothing much, man. I ain't here to slam to y'all, man. I love the Breakfast Club, man.

Jesus Christ. God, that's what it is, bro. Well, thank you, King. We appreciate you, man. For sure. Hello, who's this?. We appreciate you, man. For sure. Hello, who's this? Yo, this is Rob Capero. I'm not going to try to pronounce your name.

What's up, man? Slander to Breakfast Club, brother. All right, I love the show. I just want to give Charlamagne the God that don't give a shit. Do it. That's not what we can do, but go ahead, go. It's on you, sir. Okay, it's on you.

You always talk about being crucified, but you you're on air talking about Jesus Christ. So how could you free our people, you know, if you have corrupted vocabulary? So I just wanted to say, you know, you got to straighten that out so we can be really liberated, my brother. Well, let me ask you a question. Why are you assuming that when I say Jesus Christ, why are you assuming Jesus is white?

I'm not assuming Jesus is white because I know that Jesus came from Serapis, who is white. Okay, a Greek ancestor. So I'm not assuming that. I know that Jesus came from the white mind. Hold on, so you think Jesus is white? Jesus is not black, no. You think Jesus is white? I didn't think Jesus isn't black. He ain't white. He is white. I said, you got to do your, you got to do a proper history search when it comes to knowledge, my brother. Hey, decrackify your mind, my brother.

Decolonize your brain, my brother. Jesus is black, my brother. Jesus is a black man, my brother. Hello, who's this? Donisha. Donisha, slander the breakfast club. So, I really want to get on you and Charlamagne because y'all don't know the difference between race and ethnicity.

Explain. So, Charlamagne's always getting on you about being Dominican. You can say, I'm not Dominican, I'm black. Yeah, you're black, but you can, they're accepting you about being Dominican you can I'm not Dominican I'm black yeah you're black but you can dare touching this black Dominican because race is based off your your skin type skin complexion and your hair texture but ethnicity that's based off like tribal affiliation religion and traditions to a particular group I identify myself as black I identify myself as

black my mama black My daddy black And I'm black Yeah I know I know you said that And then Charmaine's always like Oh no but you're Dominican But you can be black

And Dominican It's not Like you're not black And you're You can be You can be both But now I don't know That race is based on your

Did you say your hair texture And your No well your Your physical characteristics Like your skin color. What about when you wear white jeans after Labor Day? Does that make you Dominican? That makes you Dominican, mama.

No, I'm not Dominican. I don't wear white jeans at all, but I don't care about wearing white jeans after Labor Day. What about if you're like Michael Kors bags? What does that make you? Whoa, whoa, whoa. This guy is crazy. This guy is crazy. This guy is crazy. All right, thank you. Is this guy not crazy. This guy is crazy. This guy is crazy.

All right, thank you. Is this guy not crazy? Why am I crazy? This guy is crazy, man. All right. Jesus Christ. Slam to the Breakfast Club, 800-585-1051. If you want to slam to the Breakfast Club, call us now.

It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Hit the Breakfast Club humble with Slamander The Breakfast Club, call us now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Get The Breakfast Club humble with Slander The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? This is Sean. What up, Envy? What's up, bro? How you doing?

Who going to get this smoke first? You go. Whoever you want to give it to. I want to give it to Charlamagne. You know, now that he getting money, he want to put that black makeup on, man. Let's take it back to the Wendy Reds. You have 15 shades of black, Charlamagne. Come on, now.

Who told you I'm getting money? We all know you're getting money. That ain't true. Don't tell them. Don't spread them lies. Y'all get money. Angela, you next. You ready, Angela? I'm ready. I don't like how I met you the first time on 145th on the telephone pole you want to just for me commercial you understand i'm saying advertising good hair

you already got good hair you don't need no just for me are you talking about your billboard that's that's on everywhere i see i'm like oh that's angela ye the first time i met her she don't need no just for me you didn't meet her you just seen a billboard. Go ahead, sir. Continue on. Okay. What about Envy? Anything else, sir? You're boring me. Anything else? Yeah, Envy.

I ain't like how you was going to represent our Lysian brothers like that. You know what I mean? If you're going to be on a real, wear a tie, not a chain. You know what I mean? If you're going out, wear the tie, not the chain. That was like five years ago, bro. Like, where you at? Like, you just got out of something?

I don't know. Jesus Christ. Hello, who's at? Like, you just got out of something? I don't know. Jesus Christ. Hello, who's this? This is Rooney. I want to slander Yee. Go ahead, go. Yee, give us some logic, Yee. I'm tired of every time somebody come on the show, you talking about, well, I feel like

you always feel like something. Use that logical brain you got, young lady, with your beautiful self. So don't have feelings. Only use logic. That's right. Okay. Goodbye. I feel like that's a terrible idea.

No, that's a good conversation. Which one is it? Should it be logic over feelings or feelings over logic? That's a good conversation. Who do you want to slam down? I want to slam down all three of y'all. Go. All right, let's start off with Ye.

Ye did good on the verses, kind of, uh, Young Jadakiss. And he's kinda moving for a star, I need to hear. All right, keep going. What verses did you do, Ye? He said he sound like Jadakiss, but go ahead, go. Oh. Charlamagne and Evie, man, I'm tired of this sexual tension between y'all. My time y'all have sex is gonna be so trash, y'all building it up so crazy.

Y'all gonna sex is going to be so trash because y'all building it up. Y'all going to be so different. My time y'all get it in. Y'all got to relax a little. He said that's going to be like the detox album, okay? You can't. Goodbye, sir. Y'all been waiting on me. You were calling me.

Goodbye. Now that's funny. That's not funny. That was hilarious. That's the best one of the day so far. Hello, who's this? Breakfast Club, Breakfast Club, Breakfast Club.

It's Freddie from Indianapolis, man. Freddie, what up? Charlemagne, I gotta tell you, man, you gotta stop using the N-word so freely, man. When have I used the N-word? Don't you use it? You be talking about it, you be using it, man. I think it would be a good idea

if anytime you use it, Sometimes you be talking about it and you be using it, man. I think it would be a good idea if any time you use it, you know, pay yourself a fine and then take that money that you accumulate from using the word so much and donate it to a charity. You right. I'm trying not to use it, but here's the thing, man. I use it in its proper context. I don't use it as a term of endearment.

I use it when I be like, these are f***ers, boy. But, you know... Then just use it again. How much should that fine be? I don't know, ma'am. Maybe a thousand? Let me tell you how my brain works. In my mind,

whenever I use cracker, it offsets the N-word. Thank you, sir. I guess, man. He right, though. I got to stop using that word. Hello, who's this? Not cracker.

The N-word. Hello? Hey. Slant to the Breakfast Club, mama. All right. So, this one's for Char to the breakfast club, mama. All right. So this one's for Charlamagne. Listen, I'm a cancer. I rock with you every day.

Okay? Yes, ma'am. When you say script, that pisses me off. When I say what? I didn't hear it. Script. Straight? Script and straight.

Straight, script, street? Anything and you add a K to it, it annoys my wife. Your phone is breaking up. Your phone is making me upset, man. I'm from Moncks Corner, South Carolina. You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to blame it on South Carolina, but I do feel like straight, screak, strong, screak.

That's just how we talk. All right. Well, slant to the Breakfast Club. 800-585-1051. If you slant to the Breakfast Club, we do that once a week where you can just call us up and let us know what you think about us. All right. Now, Eve, we got rumors on the way?

Yes. And let's talk about being offended. Who was offended by Kim Kardashian's monologue on SNL? All right. We'll get into that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.

This is The Rumor Report with Angela Yee. Rumor has it. On Breakfast Club. Listen up. Well, Michael Jordan was on NBC's Today Show, and Craig Melvin asked him if he's concerned about the NBA's COVID vaccine protocols. And here is what Michael Jordan had to say in response. Are you at all concerned about the protocols?

Not at all. I am total in unison with the league and I think everybody has been speaking about the vaccinations and I'm a firm believer in science and I'm going to stick with that and hopefully everybody abides by whatever the league sets the rules and I think that once everybody abides in, we're going to be fine. I mean, what would be different from last year? Last year they got through it. It was traveling.

They was playing home games and away games. What would be different then? Without an audience. No, they didn't have an audience last year. And a bubble. It was two years ago. Yeah, bubble was the season before. But were they at full capacity? I don't know if they were full capacity.

Some of them, but not all of them. But not all of them, yeah. And then I think it also coincides with whatever the restrictions are in the city that you're in, too. So if the city is saying you can't come in here if you're not vaccinated, you have to abide by that. It was like that last season, though. The vaccine was rolled

out last season. Because I remember at the Barclays you had to get a COVID test and then at a certain point in time you had to be vaccinated. Yeah, you had to go to some of the venues. I think Atlanta too, you had to have the COVID test before you walk into the arena as well. Now, was Michael talking about players just now? Or was he talking about just

overall? He's talking about players because he's saying whatever the league says is what you should have. Oh, so it's about players then. Okay, okay. Yeah, he's talking about players. Okay. That's different. Alright, now Kim Kardashian. The monologue that she gave on SNL offended Nicole Brown's sister. And Tanya Brown, who is a sister of Nicole Brown, says she thought that they were in poor taste and that Nicole's death should not be portrayed as a joke.

Here's what she said. You know, my father was and still is such an influence and inspiration to me. And I credit him with really opening up my eyes to racial injustice. It's because of him that I met my first black person. Want to take a stab in the dark at who it was? I know it's sort of weird to remember the first black person you met, but O.J. does leave a mark. Or several.

Or none at all. I still don't know. Now, Tanya Brown says that these jokes were beyond inappropriate and insensitive and she's wondering how much the Kardashians actually cared about Nicole because Kris Jenner was one of Nicole's close friends.

Yeah, I wondered, you know, did that hurt more because it's coming from Kim? And Kim and, you know, the families were close? Because comedians have been making O.J. Simpson jokes forever. Everybody's been making O.J. Simpson jokes. It's probably different when you know the person and they supposedly were friends with the person, so she feels like even though she

knows Kim didn't write it, she should have pushed back and refused to do that particular joke. That is one of those things about those jokes, though, and I even realized that with the Surviving R. Kelly situation. Like, you know, we all made jokes about R. Kelly, but you don't realize there's actual victims involved. So even when you're making jokes about O.J.

It offends them, hurts them as well. Of course. People were killed. So I get it. Yeah. And I'm sure it's worse when it's somebody you know personally. And you're like, damn, you was at the house. You know, so.

Hurts more. Yeah. All right. Now, Kanye has put his Wyoming ranch up for sale. The list price is $11 million. He initially purchased this for $14.5 million. And they said it's a 4,500-acre Monster Lake property with eight lodging units, two freshwater lakes, a restaurant, an event center, meeting facilities, and barns.

For $11 million. Not bad. And I think he has other... Not bad. He's ticking an L. He's losing. I'm saying not bad if you want to buy it. Oh. That's a lot for $ Not bad. He's ticking an L. He's losing. I'm saying not bad if you want to buy it.

That's a lot for $11 million. It comes with all that. So he wants to leave Wyoming now? I think he also has other properties there. It's one of his ranch properties. So that one is on the market. We don't know if he's leaving and selling everything yet. All right.

Now, former Judge Judy Bailiff, Petrie Hawkins Bird. And he's saying that he's upset because he's not reprising his role in the spinoff series Justice Judy. He said that he told the outlet that he was excluded from the new series, but he caught wind of the new project when she made the announcement in 2020 during an appearance on The Ellen Show. He said, my assumption is if you were going on to do something else, that you were at least going to ask me if I wanted to have the opportunity to audition for the role. They never discussed the new show during their time filming the 25th and final season. So he was on there with her for 25 seasons. He said he didn't have time to think about or ask about Judy Justice because after filming wrapped up, he had to focus on his wife, who's also a veteran show producer who was scheduled to have brain surgery. And he revealed that he did reach out to Judy Scheinlein, and she told him that he was not being asked to come along on the project. He said, I didn't inquire as to why that's her choice, but she did inform me that fundamentally I was priced out as a new bailiff on her new show.

My salary would have been too much, but he would have liked the opportunity to have accepted a lower salary if possible. Tiger is cooperating with authorities his ex is saying that he got physical and she posted some alleged injuries cameron swanson is her name she came over to his home around 3 a.m after he told her not to and she was at his front door shouting at the top of her lungs according to a source they said tiger and other family members in his home felt that she appeared to be under the influence. He let her inside to talk. The yelling continued. They said Cameron claims

Tyga put his hands on her during the argument. Afterward, her mother came to pick her up and then she called the cops to report the alleged incident. So she did also post a video showing these injuries. She said she is standing up for herself and he is cooperating with authorities right now.

So we'll keep you updated on that. All right, Taraji has been talking about launching her music career. She has a new Feel Good EP. And she's been working on that. So it's a surprise for people. But as you know, her new season of her Facebook Watch series

has just kicked off. And one of the people on there was Megan Thee Stallion. So here's what Megan Thee Stallion had to say about her boo, Partisan Fontaine. My boyfriend does make me very happy. He definitely takes care of me emotionally. He makes my brain feel good. He makes my heart feel good.

That's, you know, a big thing for me because I used to be so into the physical, right? But he moves me. He inspires me. We just feel like a real team. Dope. Okay. You can watch that entire episode of Peace of Mind with Taraji on Facebook Watch.

And that is your rumor report. All right. Shout to Revolt. We'll see you guys tomorrow. Everybody else to People's Choice mixes up next. Get your request in. Let's go. The Breakfast Club.

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Again, don't forget my car show. It's three weeks away. Super duper excited in Detroit. That is October 30th. So if you want to take the kids trick-or-treating or maybe you're fearful of, well, we're going to have it the day before. So it'll be cars, it'll be candy for the kids,

it'll be amusement rides, carnival games. Kids five and under are free. And then in December, we'll be in Miami. That's 12-12. So bring the kids out. It's Family Fun Day. So you can bring the family out, safe environment, and we just have fun.

Are you going to be dressed up as a, you know? Halloween? Yep. Yep, I'm going to be dressed up. My kids are going to be dressed up. What are you going to come as? I don't know. I don't want to say yet. I don't want to say yet. So you already Halloween. Yep. Yep. I'm going to be dressed up. My kids are going to be dressed up. What are you going to come as? I don't know. I don't want to say yet.

I don't say yet. So you already know. Yep. Is it a car? No, I'm not going to dress up as a car. But yeah, I will be dressed up for Halloween. So I can't wait to see you guys. All right.

And also, I want to tell everybody, just be careful out there. I mean, you know, it's getting close to the holiday season. And I see robberies are up up people getting robbed and assaulted are up just be careful out there you saw what candy man did candy man is fake i saw yesterday they caught some of those people i guess one guy they did the shooting at philippe child right yeah they believe it was philippe child they believe that uh there's a a gang in new york city if you're from out of town. But this is all over the place. That they were just robbing people, going to the hot spots, the clubs, the restaurants, and waiting for people to walk out and trying to take their watches and rings and phones and all that.

So just be extra careful. If you see something, call the police. See something, say something. But they are out there. This is robbery season. Just be extra careful. When you go into your crib, your house, just look over your shoulder. Look for parked cars.

Just be extra careful out there. I mean, I've never seen the city like this. The city's bad. The hell you mean? You've been here since the 80s. And it's bad. This is one of the worst. No, you know what's so crazy?

It's not even as people get robbed. Like, you seeing, like, yesterday I seen a lady push a three-year-old on the floor. I seen somebody try to push somebody in front of a train. I seen somebody cut somebody in the face. Like, it's crazy. Yeah, and I think it's because of social media, too. But you're right. I was having a conversation with an older white homie of mine.

And I said that I was like, man, I see your New York look like it did in the early 2000s, late 90s. She said, no, this is like how it was in the 60s, 70s. I was like, well, it wasn't around then. So I'll take your word for it, man. But it's bad out there. So just be careful. And it's because people starving. It's literally because

of the economy. I'm telling you. Them PPM. I said PPM. Them PPP loans gone. The unemployment gone. The holiday season about to be upon us.

Everything looking like a lick for people who need to eat. Yeah, and the dude that they caught yesterday, he's from the Bronx. Of course. Because the craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. Yes.

Yeah, so. All right, well, when we come back, positive notice to Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Yes, we are.

And shout out to everybody that was calling in today. One person was talking about the sexual tension between envy and charlamagne he said by the time y'all have sex it's going to be trash that has to be such a disappointment if you wait for years and years and years and hold out and then you finally have sex with someone and it's not what you thought it was gonna i think it's strange that people think about me and Envy having sex. Me and Envy ain't thinking about that. No. You know what I'm saying?

It's not all about that. Just because you tell your brother you love him and you value him and you appreciate him don't mean you want to sleep with him. That's not all that's been said. People get your names out the gutter. Also, salute to Jason Wilson. You know what I mean? Jason Wilson, the author of Cry Like a Man and Battle Cry

just a great brother man follow him on Instagram and Twitter at Mr. Jason Wilson he's got a documentary coming out produced by Lawrence Fishburne about his life

he's just a really really good brother man who's really out here you know helping the people helping the community especially in Detroit like I mean

his organization Union you know he's helped over 10,000 young black men you know deal with their trauma through martial arts. Really? Hell yeah. He's best at Detroit?

Yeah, Jason Wilson. I'm going to get his number because maybe he's got some young men that he wants to get in a car show for free. He would love that. You can ask Ty,

Royce, any of them about Jason. Jason is the man. Salute to Jason Wilson. I'm happy he pulled up this morning. All right. Well, you got a positive note? Yes. The positive note is simply this Jason Wilson. So I'm happy he pulled up this morning. All right. Well, you got a positive note?

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