The Breakfast Club - We Talk Back: A Thin Line Between Love And Hate

Episode Date: September 13, 2025

The Black Effect Presents... We Talk Back! This week, AJ and Tam Bam kick things off by sharing their weekend highlights, including AJ diving into a new reality series her friend is producing. In the ...S.I.N.S of the week, they break down the latest drama from The Real Housewives of Atlanta. Then, they take a nostalgic trip back to the ‘90s with a review of A Thin Line Between Love and Hate, unpacking the film’s portrayal of toxic relationships and the traits that fueled the chaos. Lets discuss! Follow us! @wetalkbackpodcast @officialtambam @ajholiday2.0YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? Answer, a new podcast called Wisecrack, where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime story. Does anyone know what show they've come to see? It's a story. It's about the scariest night of my life. This is Wisecrack, available now.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Short on time, but big on true crime. On a recent episode of the podcast, Hunting for Answers, I highlighted the story of 19-year-old Lechay Dungey. But she never knocked on that door. She never made it inside. And that text message would be the last time anyone would ever hear from her. Listen to hunting for answers from the Black Effect. Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Hi, my name is Enya Humanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Do you want to hear the secrets of psychopaths, murderers, sex offenders? In this episode, I offer tips from them. I'm Dr. Leslie, forensic psychologist. This is a podcast where I cut through the noise with real talk. When you were described to me as a forensic psychologist, I was like snooze.
Starting point is 00:01:50 We ended up talking for hours and I was like, this girl is my best friend. Let's talk about safety and strategies to protect yourself. your loved ones listen to intentionally disturbing on the iHeart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts peace to the planet i go by the name of charlemagne the god and guess what i can't wait to see y'all at the third annual black effect podcast festival that's right we're coming back to alanta georgia saturday april 26 at polman yards and it's hosted by none other than decisions decisions, Mandy B and Weezy, okay? We got the R&B Money podcast with Tank and Jay Valentine.
Starting point is 00:02:25 We got the Woman of All podcast with Sarah Jake Roberts. We got good moms bad choices. Carrie Champion will be there with her neck and sports podcast. And the trap nerds podcast with more to be announced. And of course, it's bigger than podcasts. We're bringing the Black Effect Marketplace with black owned businesses, plus the food truck court to keep you fed while you visit us, all right? Listen, you don't want to miss this.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Tap in and grab your tickets now at BlackEffect.com. Flash Podcast Festival. Welcome to We Talk Back, where we encourage you to hustle hard, laugh louder, and always keep it cute. So grab your coffee, cocktail, and crown, because it's about to go down. Talk to talk to them. We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who talks back. Hey y'all. It's your girl, AJ Holiday.
Starting point is 00:03:14 What's up, Tam Bam? Y'all, it's official Tam. I don't know. Am I official Tam Bam? I'm just Tam Bam. I love y'all. Hey, AJ. You change your Instagram name?
Starting point is 00:03:24 No, that's it. But I didn't want to save my Instagram name. Crazy. I'm good, girl. How you feeling? You know what? I always enjoy spring because, you know, the season is changing. But when I tell you this, Poller is whooping my ass, like, real bad this year, like, worse than ever before, I can't handle it.
Starting point is 00:03:46 I understand that the tree's got to have sex. I didn't ask to be a part of the orgy. I did not ask to be a part of it. Girl, like, Zyrtec can't take enough of my fucking money. I'm getting, like, the big packs from Costco, okay? My mom even texts me asking me if I needed some more Zyrtec because it's real nasty. Like, my car was green. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I didn't move my car that much last week and it just looked like an abandoned car after a while. Yeah, it's just gross. It really is gross outside. But I still went out in it. I went, oh, we know that. I went to, in New York, I went to Saint. It's a restal lounge.
Starting point is 00:04:33 I don't know what that means. To me, it's a club, but the owner told me it's not a club. It's a resto lounge. So I guess that's like a club. Restaurant slash lounge? Yeah, I guess. Yeah, because they do sell really good food. And then he bought me.
Starting point is 00:04:49 a drink at the end of the night and I was like I want what you drinking that was a mistake baby when I tell you I was drunk as fuck I had to go home after that drink I had to leave in my business but that was it oh and I also we went to um pergola so we went to two hookah bars who's cool but then I was supposed to go out on Sunday I can't do two days in a row is one or the other pick one because that's yeah from six to ten those those are my operational hours. Six to 10. If you don't got me out the house by six o'clock, and I need one week notice in advance. And if you don't got me out by six, it's a wrap, okay? I had a good weekend too. And, you know, I really, I had a tough week
Starting point is 00:05:35 last week, right? So Saturday morning was actually my, like, test to see if I can do all the things. Okay? So I really had to push myself to get up 4.30 in the morning, put makeup on, all this shit, get dressed for a great cause, though. So one of my friends, friends, so my home girl volunteered me for this thing. And I just committed to it. And I committed to it a month ago, so I had to follow through. But I almost, I almost told them bitches I ain't going to be able to make it, but I'm glad I pushed through. But so she's, uh, the, One of my friend's friend is doing a reality TV show. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:18 And it's about the women in the world of Merchant Siemens, right? So, yeah. So it's a great, great, great, great, great idea. So we actually did like a panel interview for a couple of people who actually showed up to, and I feel like she's going to have a good cast, too. Okay. You were interviewing. You were helping interview people to participate to be on.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Yeah, on the react, like the cast members, right? And why you had to get up at 4.30 in the morning? Because it was from 8 to 12. Oh. And, yeah, we were recording everything. It was really nice, set up, and, you know, real professional. So it's called Beyond the Anchor. So it's going to be following the lives of women who are in this very hard industry.
Starting point is 00:07:03 A lot of people in Charleston are merchant seamans. Mm-hmm. So they work alongside the Navy on these ships, you know, around the world all year long. and they're away from their families, children. So it's some good-ass storylines going on. You know what? There's a lot of merchant seamen in Virginia, too. I know a lot of people who do that in Virginia.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Yeah, yeah. So we, the casting was basically from head of Virginia, essentially, because a lot of the boats are docked in Charleston. A lot of them docked in Virginia, the port cities. Right. Miami, Louisiana. Well, that's going to be very interesting. That sounds like a good concept.
Starting point is 00:07:42 They came up with something good. Yes. So we'll see, Chad. So that was my weekend. And then I just was, for real, in the bed from maybe 4 o'clock Saturday to 12 o'clock Sunday. Girl, listen, let me tell you how I messed up. I was, I stood out drinking all night Saturday. Oh, let me tell y'all, the niggins was outside. They was on the kid. I swear they was like in the line. They was lined up. I was like, okay, wait, one second. at next bitch we better get one of the little things we get a number
Starting point is 00:08:15 everybody take a number stand in line when your number is called please push forward because that's what it was given you got clear do you have clear nigga right pre-check send him to me for TSA for AJ pre-check
Starting point is 00:08:30 so after that Sunday I had to get up and do some hair girl like I don't know why I signed up for that but I had to get up you do a sewing it hurt so bad. I'm not built to be outside and go. I remember when I was younger, I could I could literally party till time to go to work and be good. Baby, it hurts so bad. I was like, I can't wait. God bless me. Y'all, like, subscribe our shit, buy some t-shirts from us. So I ain't got to do this shit no more. I don't want to do here anymore. So anyway, and then Sunday,
Starting point is 00:09:03 I stayed in bed all day, all day. I did not. I took a shower and lay back down and that was it. I could not go back outside. That's my favorite thing to do. That's what you need to make the shirts. I love to lay down. I love it. Because I would buy it. Let's get in this.
Starting point is 00:09:17 My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. Hello, Ed. From a very rural background myself, my dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different.
Starting point is 00:09:40 On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Hunter, host of Hunting for Answers on the Black Effect Podcast Network.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Join me every weekday as I share bite-sized stories of missing and murdered black women and girls in America. There are several ways we can all do better at protecting black women. My contribution is shining a light on our missing sisters and amplifying their disregarded stories. stories like Tamika Anderson. As she drove toward Galvez, she was in contact with several people, talking on the phone as she made her way to what should have been a routine transaction. But Tamika never bought the car, and she never returned home that day. One podcast, one mission, save our girls.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Join the searches we explore the chilling cases of missing and murdered black women and Listen to Hunting for Answers every weekday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect.
Starting point is 00:11:37 And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Do you want to hear the secrets of serial killers, psychopaths, pedophiles, robbers? They are sitting there waiting for the vulnerable thing. They're waiting for the unprotected.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I'm Dr. Leslie, forensic psychologist. I advocate for safety and awareness of predators while wearing pink. When you were described to me as a forensic psychologist, I was like snooze. We ended up talking for hours and I was like, this girl is my best friend. This is a podcast where I cut through the noise with sarcasm, satire, and hard truths. I'm not going to fake it and force it for me. But would you force an orgasm? Because that's like a different layer. The car accident you didn't want to see but couldn't turn away from. In this episode, I discussed personal safety and self-defense tools, instincts, and strategies to protect yourself and your loved ones in everyday life and high-risk
Starting point is 00:12:40 situations. Listen to intentionally disturbing on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, child, what we got going on? And these screeks with a case. So y'all know that the infamous, super famous, um, I guess it was a YouTube dating show at this point now. They're heading to Netflix. Okay, so beginning April 10th, 2025, viewers will tune in every Thursday at 8 p.m.
Starting point is 00:13:15 For a roller coaster of romance, chaos, and enough tension to make your stomach drop. So thanks to the bachelor. Think the bachelor. Oh, yeah. Think of the bachelor, okay, but with balloons. So y'all know the pop the balloon date. and show. They're heading in Netflix. I'm excited for that. I'm happy. Congratulations. Round of applause. Yeah, they got over like a hundred million like YouTube views. You know what I'm
Starting point is 00:13:43 saying? Since they've been on YouTube. That's wonderful. People really enjoy that shit. I could never go on no pop to balloon. I couldn't pop a balloon nor could I be the pop. I couldn't be the poppy or the popper because I don't want to pop and hurt nobody feeling. And if you pop a balloon on me, I'm going to cry. So I'm going to cry. So I'm going to cry. fire fight. I don't know which one is, or both. So I don't need to be on them. Yeah, that shit is damn. That show is treacherous. Yeah. Okay. I don't think my, my assume is set up to go on that shit.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Me neither. Because you are not going to be for everybody. So imagine going into a room where you're not for anybody in there. Anybody. And you walk out and everybody like, pop, pop, pop. For real, I'm crying, like, right there. They're on the spot. So I commend those people, you know, who get up there with all that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Yeah. So the series creators, Bolia, Matando. I believe their husband and wife, right? No, I don't think so because their last names aren't the same. And Arlette Amuli, Amali, that's who we see doing the, she's a host right now. So now she's going to be the executive producer of the show. And basically she won't be like, you know, doing the hosting anymore. We love her from Insecure.
Starting point is 00:15:12 The Virgin. I wonder if she's still a virgin. Why would she not be? Might as well. We ain't heard about her getting married. I did see she was dating. So. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Come this far to turn back now? I doubt it. Now, I am not a TV watcher for real, right? but I have kept up with Atlanta Housewives every so often. Like I'll skip around years and seasons. I don't know why I decided to watch this season. It's probably because Portia is back on the show and I want to see what the fuck is going on with her and Simon and all the things.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Like I just knew it was going to be a good time. So I have been tuning in now. I did not catch this most recent episode, but apparently some shit is going on. Now, I did catch like some of the shade with, some of the new cast members and then you have like some of the the older um cast mates still around okay so um what's uh kenya kenya more is still around um porcia's back on the show um what's the other uh Cynthia is there door yeah so there's a newcomer her name is Brittany 80 80. She was added to this current season. And this last episode, I saw the preview for it. I hadn't watched it yet, but you could see the tension between her and Kenya. So apparently Kenya tweeted out about how she was threatened by Brittany, like behind the scenes on set. It says this year, Brittany Eadie was added to the cast of season 16, which is currently being filmed. However, Edie's time on the show might not last very long as there was allegedly a
Starting point is 00:16:57 severe situation on set with King and Moore, according to the neighborhood talk. So they got into an argument, and Brittany basically says, says, I have a gun for bitches like you. Whether she had a gun at the time or just saying, you know, for future reference, bitch, I got a gun for you. King and Moore did not take that shit lightly at all, and she shouldn't. You can't just threaten me with a gun. You can't leave out this building before me either. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Because basically you just told me you'll kill me. Yeah, that's the only thing I would hear. Right. So as it stands, it's unclear what went down between these two. However, what we do know is that people on set were shook. Photographer Eric Robinson was at the scene. And on social media, he revealed just how shaken up he was by everything. And quotes, it says, I am still trying to recover myself.
Starting point is 00:17:54 I couldn't even take a photo, my mouth fell to the floor, and I am just in awe. Like, what was the most deadliest scene probably? What? You can't read, bitch. It says it was the most. That was the most deadliest scene probably in the franchise history for him. That's what he's saying. But, I mean, didn't nobody die, so he might have been, like, reaching with that.
Starting point is 00:18:24 statement, but did anybody even get married? This was supposed to be like classy, you know, women with money. She's talking about I got a gun for bitches like me. Um, take that to love and hip hop Atlanta. You're on the wrong show. This is real high squads of Atlanta. We don't do that here. And I can't recall what this girl's husband name is on the show, but one, he doesn't seem to like her. There's a couple of people who like the men that they have with them on the show, like, does he even like you for real? Like, I'm questioning it just how they are responding to their wives on camera. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:18:57 It's like Drus Adora and her husband all over again with some of these new castmates. So I don't know. Her husband, it seems like, I don't know if he was an accident or something. His face is like half frozen kind of. He looks dangerous as far as I'm a conservative. I think they might be from New York. I don't know. But about right.
Starting point is 00:19:16 That should sound about right. She looked like she might be not her per se. Yes. But her husband looked like he done. did some shit. Damn. Okay. And he looked like
Starting point is 00:19:26 you got these cameras in my life and I'm just here because you won't do this shit. He really looked like he be on some bullshit. But anyway.
Starting point is 00:19:36 So yeah. So shout out to Real House Wides of Atlanta Child. Kenyan Moore, you better. And you know, she'd be strapped up too
Starting point is 00:19:41 now because Kenya has talked about, you know, how she makes sure that she protects yourself. Mm-hmm. Try to, you know, use it on the castmates.
Starting point is 00:19:49 It's crazy. Right. Yeah, you tripping. Yeah. Yeah, so we'll see How to unfold But let's talk about All right
Starting point is 00:19:56 So last week we did Waited to Exhale And we analyzed all the characters And I really enjoyed that That was a lot of fun So this week We're gonna do A thin line between love and hate
Starting point is 00:20:10 And just talk about How they tried to get us to hate Brandy When the movie came out But really it was Darius Darnell Girl Darnell
Starting point is 00:20:19 D'em ass We know Darnel's, okay? Darnel is alive and well. When we get back from this break, we're going to... My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. Hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself.
Starting point is 00:20:33 My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin, so, like, it's not, like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian. with a story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family.
Starting point is 00:21:04 And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Hunter, host of Hunting for Answers on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Join me every weekday as I share bite-sized stories of missing and murdered black women and girls in America.
Starting point is 00:21:38 There are several ways we can all do better at protecting black women. My contribution is shining a light on our missing sisters and amplifying their disregarded stories. Stories like Tamika Anderson. As she drove toward Galvez, she was in contact with several people, talking on the phone as she made her way to what should have been a routine transaction. But Tamika never bought the car, and she never returned home that day. One podcast, one mission, save our girls. Join the searches we explore the chilling cases of missing and murdered black women and girls.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Listen to hunting for answers every weekday on the Black Effect podcast, Network, IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect.
Starting point is 00:22:47 And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Do you want to hear the secrets of serial killers, psychopaths, pedophiles, robbers? They are sitting there waiting for the vulnerable thing. They're waiting for the unprotected.
Starting point is 00:23:10 I'm Dr. Leslie, forensic psychologist. I advocate for safety and awareness of predators while wearing pink. When you were described to me as a forensic psychologist, I was like snooze. We ended up talking for hours, and I was like, this girl is my best friend. This is a podcast where I cut through the noise with sarcasm, satire, and hard truths. I'm not going to fake it and force it for me. But would you force an orgasm? Because that's like a different layer.
Starting point is 00:23:36 The car accident you didn't want to see, but couldn't turn away from. In this episode, I discussed personal safety and self-defense tools, instincts, and strategies to protect yourself and your loved ones in everyday life and high-risk situations. Listen to intentionally disturbing on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Get into it. All right, y'all. So again, okay, so this week we want to break down a thin line between love and hate. And, you know, we try to like associate it with dating today, right?
Starting point is 00:24:16 Because it is the same bullshit. We know the darnel's in life. we know the brandies in life. Brandy was like the crazy bitch on the show, right? But really, was she crazy? You know, a lot of people like to drive you to crazy and then call you crazy. And that'd be the fucked up thing. Like, you get me to 100. Now you're trying to tell me to severity of a situation. Oh, bitch, you're gaslighting me. Okay? Because I know I'm not crazy. And you know how I know I'm not crazy? Because I'll call my friends first. Tell them what I did. Tell them what that other person did. And bitch, am I crazy or am I tripping? Before I while on your ass.
Starting point is 00:24:51 See, maybe Brandy was skipping the steps because she ain't have no friends. That's the problem. She didn't consult with her village. She really was consulted with her fucking subconscious mind. And them intrusive thoughts was telling her to kill niggas because I believe she had killed an ex. But the ex was physically violent or so she said. Remember, she beat herself up now.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Right, that's all I'm saying. And got Darnell arrested. So she probably did that in the last situation too. because any bitch that'll be her own ass to get you in trouble? You don't need to fuck with it. Whop your own ass. Don't whip me. Whop your own ass.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Yeah, that's next level. All right, let's do a deep dive, right? So, when's the last time you watched that line between 11 years? I watched it last night. Did you really? I did. I didn't rewatch it. Okay, so y'all know Tammy already always know all the fucking movies anyway, so this shit is fresh on her front of lobe.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Yeah, anyway, it was. I didn't even have to watch it over because I know this movie. This movie is so triggering. I was cussing Martin Lawrence ass out, the whole movie, like the entire movie, even before he started cutting up, I was like, just because I knew what was coming. It's like, you motherfucker. Right. And so the movie is still relevant today because we're talking about like toxic relationships, karma, emotional. manipulation and like the blurred lines between love and obsession, because I have seen people
Starting point is 00:26:27 online say, if my man don't do this, he don't love me. And it be like some stalker shit. And I'm like, if you've never been stalked before, you really don't know how that feels and you don't want that. You don't want somebody to really be obsessed with you. See, y'all bitches, when y'all want to do magic and shit, that'd be the main thing y'all want to do is get somebody to fall in love with you. And when you're ready to get rid of that nigga, you're not going to be able to. Now you got to call the police. Now you're you got to get the course involved to get a restraining order against his naked because you don't put his ass in a jar of honey. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Be careful. So have you ever been in a situation where love turned into something dangerous? Absolutely. Hell yeah. I feel like I talk about it a lot on here and maybe not in depth like situation to situation, but I have been in some real sticky shit in relationships. And I feel like I'm usually, yeah, I feel like I'm usually the one that's a little bit more sane, right? But when men feelings get involved, they turn different, you know, because I think they have a different idea also of what love is. Because men, when they love you, now they feel like they, like, kind of own you, like, you are their property. I saw this post on social media last week, and it was a guy asking a lady. like, what's the big problem with a man saying that you're his property?
Starting point is 00:27:55 You know, don't you want exactly, right? It's the verbiage. He was like, how was he supposed to care for you, die for you, provide for you if he doesn't own you? And I'm like, am I a car? Because I know a lot of niggas were dirty-ass fucking cars and they'll still kill you about that dirty-ass car. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:14 I'm not a car. You are human beings. You can't own me. Yeah. So a lot of people, a lot of men, like when they fall in love and they, their feelings get involved is different. And I've experienced some fucking crazy shit. I've never been in love with someone crazy.
Starting point is 00:28:32 I think I luckily have like witnessed like, oh, I see their flag. I see the red flags. And when you show me a little bit of crazy, I will get up out of there. I remember I had this one guy. He was just too aggressive with how he handled me. Even just playfully. It was just too much. I was like, oh, no, I got to get up out of here.
Starting point is 00:28:55 I remember he picked me up and put me on the top of the car and then grab my legs. It was like pulling me off the car, playing. How was that fun? Yeah, who is this fun for? Because it's not fun for me. Let me go and put me down. Now, all the stalkers that I've ever had,
Starting point is 00:29:12 I've never had relationships with them. They'd be mad because I don't want to, like, I've had female stalkers and I've had male. bitch, I remember that, bitch. Yeah. We're not going to talk about that. We don't run to bring that bitch up. You're being scary ass.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Yeah, yeah, that shit was scary. That is scary. When you had somebody really, like, obsessed with you and threatening you and saying all kind of crazy shit for no reason, like, they clearly got mental illness. This shit is definitely terrifying. But this wasn't the case with Brandi and Darnell.
Starting point is 00:29:48 because she pretty much let him know, don't fucking play with me because she didn't say I ain't rap type, but she was giving signs, you know, the signs were there. And he thought it was the game. So let's break down the characters. So I did Google now. This is what Google says. Google says that Darnell was in his 20s, like early to mid-20s. And Brandy was in her late 30s.
Starting point is 00:30:17 And mind you, remember Brandy was previously. married to somebody and she was like you could tell like she had her whole shit together like money okay she was um that girl okay yeah she was a real estate of so executive of some sort like she had her she was in her bag she was showing million dollar homes she had a driver she had she had looked like a million dollar home of her own mm-hmm so she had her life together and darnell was outside playing like he still was a playboy okay a womanizer yeah so darnell he's a charming ladies man who plays games with women's hearts but meets his match in brandy essentially um he's a womanizer we can say that right yeah he's emotionally immature and he probably also like underestimates
Starting point is 00:31:12 the power of emotions mm-hmm The title was so perfect, a thin line between love and hate. And it really is that you can see that shit happening right now in real life, every day. Women and men, relationships dissolve. And they went from I love you so much to I hate that motherfucker. Look at Cardi Bhead offset. Right. Shit, I had a situation just recently too.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I saw a nigga I used to fuck with. And he was literally outside rubbing a bitch feet under the table. like in my face just recently and I was like then I blocked this nigga on social media recently right but I could have sworn I Ben had him blocked like on the phone don't you know I know he probably doesn't know my life right now because we don't talk yeah but he asked me like to meet him out so I'm like nigga I just seen you two weeks ago rubbing a bitch feet under the table. Like, are you stupid?
Starting point is 00:32:19 Right. And he just, like, laugh. He was like, girl, hush. That's this one. He texts me, girl, hush. And I say, you lucky that I'm player because I almost embarrassed both of us. I probably, like, I really wanted to spit on that nigger. Not because, like, I have, like, any type of real feelings for him and no shit like
Starting point is 00:32:36 that anymore. It's just that, who the fuck you think you're playing with? And the problem is, men be counting on our integrity, right? They'd be counting on us to keep it fucking cool. But everybody ain't going to be like me. Right. You're going to run into a brandy. You're going to run into a brandy and they're going to ruin your whole shit for you.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Yeah. So is Darnell truly like the villain or just an immature guy who met the wrong woman at the wrong time? Or at the right fucking time, get his ass together. I wouldn't consider him a villain. You know, I would say he was real selfish because he was playing a game. you know he wanted he bet with tea he had a bet with tea that he couldn't get her you know and he was like oh watch watch this i can get any woman i want because i'm that charming i'm that's cool i got the finesse and watch how i finesse her so i don't think he realized how serious it could get you
Starting point is 00:33:33 know when you're playing with people emotions because that woman definitely was like look i've been hurt i pretty much i stay clear y'all motherfuckers because i don't want to be hurt again and then here you come and how he did it like like she finally let this nigga in he laid in her bed and said I love you and she made they made love or she made love to him and he just got some pussy and yeah
Starting point is 00:34:03 then right after he calls his homeboy to let him know that he got the draws basically like I won and tell me I'm the man and then now she's all I'm fully in. I'm letting down my guard. I'm going to show you that I care about you. And then she took him shopping on her birthday and bought him designer shit in nice clothes
Starting point is 00:34:23 and was like, take my car, handle your business, meet me tonight. It's my birthday. And then she had a cake. Can you imagine sitting in your house with a cake waiting on the nigger you just bought all this clothes for on your birthday? And he never show up.
Starting point is 00:34:42 That is so hurtful. He dropped her off to crazy. Like literally, like put her in the car and drove her there. Mm-hmm. And then called her fucking crazy. And how about the part where he like, like she's trying to cuddle with him after sex? And he like moves his hand, her hand off of him now. This is where, you know, I'm guilty of telling men, like, if you don't really fuck with a woman and you want to fuck, like, don't be getting butt, don't be getting butt naked having sex with a bitch.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Like, just pull your dick out the hole so she know what it is. Like that skin to skin shit is a problem too And if you're not going to verbally say Hey I just want to fuck And you may not have said that But everything else you're doing Just says you want to fuck Like Martin Lawrence
Starting point is 00:35:26 He really just he wasn't He never said I just want to fuck He was doing all the things To make her feel That he was interested in her like seriously right But then you do have He came to her fucking job He made an appointment with her
Starting point is 00:35:39 Wasting her time Where she could be selling the house to somebody who really wants to buy a house and then I mean he went out the extra mile he had his homeboy that stutter drive him in a fine car up there so it looked like he got a little more than he got and then he put a Lalik
Starting point is 00:35:55 baby bird in the house prior to them getting there so she could see it because he knew that she was into crystals like you are doing the most to just want some put you. Right. Listen I've had a guy do me like that all right y'all I met this guy
Starting point is 00:36:12 guy, he had been in my DMs for a while, but I hadn't ignored him. And then he was like, I'm coming to Charlotte. I want to see you. No, he's like, he sent me a message like, oh, I'm in Charlotte. I was like, enjoy the Queen City. I was not interested, right? I wasn't paying him, even though he was good looking, but he just looked like, you know how sometimes. He's on some bullshit. Like, he looked like he's about to be a fuck, nigga, right? And I just felt that in my spirit. And that's why I wasn't giving him no chance. So he's like, what are you doing it? I was like, I'm going to a white party with my friend, so you can enjoy the Queen city. So then I see this
Starting point is 00:36:43 motherfucker at this white party in red. He was like, I found every white party in the city. And I had to pay extra to get in here with red, but I knew I had to come see you. Oh, Lord. Girl, he's a whole demon, demon, right? Then he started showing me
Starting point is 00:36:59 and my friends, like, he bought us bottles, drinks. He was doing the most, like showing, making my friends laugh and shit, you know, doing the most. So then my home girls was like, girl, he's following you around like a puppy. Give him a chance. Give him a chance. So I'm like, okay, so then I let this man take me on a night.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Like, we went to dinner. The next night, we went to dinner. We went to a nice dinner. I mean, he was whining and dining me. Like, he asked me, what did I like to drink? And when we got to the table, it was sitting there already waiting on me, like, just real smooth. He was smooth or whatever.
Starting point is 00:37:32 We started, we'd be on the phone. Now I'm starting to, like, okay, entertain him. He's a businessman. He got his shit together. you know, he said he wanted a wife, all these things. And he's attractive. And we started spending a bunch of time together. I wouldn't sleep with him still.
Starting point is 00:37:49 I was just like being very cautious with my body, you know. And we went out this particular night. We had spent the night together, but I, you know, I wasn't ready for sex and I let him know. And the only reason we spent the night is because we were both drunk. Anyway, so we went out again, we went to Fahrenheit in Charlotte. And we were on the rooftop. We were drinking. It was so beautiful.
Starting point is 00:38:11 We left. We went to my apartment and my building had a rooftop. Fire pits. We're out there at the fire pit just chilling. I had wine. So we were drinking wine. And y'all know I'm a cancer. So I got emotional.
Starting point is 00:38:22 And I was like, I just want to thank you for being such a good person. Like I meet a lot of people who try to take advantage of my good heart. And I really appreciate it. And I think I might have shed a little thug tear, right? Because I'm a cancer cry, baby. Got a thug tear. the energy shifted immediately y'all the energy change right so and i felt it and it was weird and then he left shortly after and then he ghosted i did hear from him he didn't answer my call
Starting point is 00:38:52 the next day he didn't respond to text so then a few maybe like three months goes by and he reaches out to me and now i'm like what the fuck do you want basically do you know this motherfucker told me that he was married that his wife was a traveling nurse and that's why she was never around and that's how he was able to spend so much time with me and be on the phone with me because she was out in California working for three months as a nurse
Starting point is 00:39:22 you know and he was out here and him and a bitch from a Facebook group that I was in made a bet on who they could who could fuck me first her girl what the bitch was going on the bet. Yeah, it was her or him. Which one of the day to fuck me first.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Did you know the girl? Yeah, she was pursuing me too. Did you fuck the girl? No, I did not. I did not fuck the girl. Y'all know we got to ask Tammy shit four to five times. No, I never, me and her never even hung out. You know, me and her never hung out.
Starting point is 00:39:56 But we were all that wild. Ain't that wild? And he was like, I, like, once I was spending time with you, I just assume you were different than what you were. And I didn't, I couldn't do you like that. And I guess he thought I was going to be like, well, thank you for not taking it. Fucking me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:20 I said, bitch, I spit in your face. That's how I responded. Because you wasted my time and played with me still. Even if you grew a conscience in that moment, you still. ass man doing this like why what if i still go ahead and send this shit to your wife because this is the type of poop of shit you out here doing right and that's what i should have done but i just told me don't ever contact me again or i'll spit in your face bitch or something along arrives a real life darnel because that's a real life darnel a grown-ass darnel like what are you
Starting point is 00:40:59 doing what are you and this bitch doing why y'all look at me and thought y'all could play with me like that. Yeah. Like, what in the world? Anytime somebody play with me, you know, because people going to try everybody, right? But I always, this is where I'd be fucking up, right? Because I'd be trying to figure out, okay, what did I, what did I do? Like, how did I invite this energy? What am I doing at somebody think that they can play with me like this? Like, so I, even though I know it has nothing to do with me, I still find myself questioning, like, what could I have done differently for a different result? There was nothing you could have done. How was I to know that this was playing in the background you know like nuts so y'all this is our character breakdown for brandy web
Starting point is 00:41:39 okay so and look we know a real brandy webb in real life too but she ain't no killer i don't think but that's just her first and last name but um so she's wealthy elegant uh elegant woman with deep emotional scars from past relationships um her character traits she's like super sophisticated confident but deeply wounded and vengeful with fucking hurt and hate and her. Okay? So she was hesitant at first, but eventually falls with Darnell's charm.
Starting point is 00:42:11 She does show super early signs of possessiveness. You know, when she stabbed that fucking cake. Okay? And like she did like a quick transformation from lover to stalker. Now I got a home girl. Like she's just real, she's not crazy like Brandy,
Starting point is 00:42:27 but she's real vindictive. Like, because she go, well, she and my homegirl anymore. I'll just, it's a whole other reasons why we're not friends no more. But I have seen her do some really fucked up shit to people that I could never, like, fathom in my mind to do, right? But she is the type of person that will go above and beyond. And those type of people are necessary, right? She helps people financially just with her time and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:42:51 And the minute you fuck her over, like she's really studying, like, how to fuck your whole life up, though. I know for sure she got two niggas in prison right now. Like, she helped the police put their ass in jail because they owed her money. They ended up going to jail with someone. Like one nigga, he was on parole and he flashing guns on social media. So she sent that shit to his PO. He owed her money.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Yeah, because he owed her money. Like, fuck you out here. And then she actually talked to a girl that he was fucking with. And the girl basically told her like, yeah, we used that money that you gave him to get our apartments. So she just saw red after that. Yeah, I could see why, though. Like, oh, you think it's a game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Now you got to live in the cell. Yeah, so just like my friend, my ex-friend, right, was Brandy always dangerous or Darnell push her over the edge, basically? No, she was all, that bitch was always dangerous. But I feel like she was loving to him and she wanted him to love her. And I don't think he would have seen that side of her if he didn't bring it out. you know i don't think right that would have came up because she was ready to give him everything take my car here's some clothes here's some money here's whatever i'm gonna teach you how to ride a horse i'm gonna teach you all these things because i like you and i feel like you like me but so
Starting point is 00:44:18 she's really not dangerous like this thing has to be induced right this thing that comes out she's still fool though because after he dumped her essentially um she was in his house trying to make breakfast. Remember? Yeah, because we're not done until I say. But they already said it. He came to her house and she was like, it's fun while I lasted.
Starting point is 00:44:45 You know, acting unbothered, right? But she knew at that point, she knew at that point she had to kill him, though. No, but then, no, but then she acted unbothered. And then the next day he woke up smelling some shit burning in the kitchen. And she was at his house trying to like bake some biscuits.
Starting point is 00:45:01 and some shit like baby I'm in here trying to cook and he was like get the fuck and pushed her up against the wall and then she was like you put your hands on the wrong one and that's when that shit switched up
Starting point is 00:45:12 because she was trying to get her nigger back she was in there trying to bake biscuits and she's like don't go I love you and that's when the signals got crossed
Starting point is 00:45:22 I don't know look I'm wearing brandy okay don't tit if you don't want me fucking tatin just don't And you don't know who's going to be crazy. So your best bet is just to be the best person you could be in every single situation.
Starting point is 00:45:38 But oftentimes men aren't. They be misleading people intentionally. And the thing is, if you don't have the wherewithal, right, it just be shit you got to pay attention to that may not be right in front of your face. Right? I can understand why she was misled. Me too. but she did she do have some issues because
Starting point is 00:46:01 remember she was sitting in the house and he ain't show up and she stabbed that cake she don't know he could have been hurt he could have been all these different she didn't know yet you know you already went immediately to enraged stabbing a cake like that is next level nuts
Starting point is 00:46:19 because what if something happened to them there was no social media we didn't even have cell phones back then so it might have been cell phones but many people didn't have them So, you ain't know what was going on with that nigger before you went to a level 10. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. Hello, Ed.
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Starting point is 00:46:59 Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage.
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Starting point is 00:49:38 Because that's like a different layer. The car accident you didn't want to see but couldn't turn away from. In this episode, I discussed personal safety and self-defense tools, instincts and strategies to protect yourself and your loved ones in everyday life and high-risk situations. Listen to Intentionally Disturbing on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's that Summer Walker song, Session 32? Oh, I love that song. Yeah, it's like real short.
Starting point is 00:50:15 I need her to make it into a five, ten minute song, right? But that you don't know what love is. If you don't stay up all night, if you don't call a hundred times, to me, that's not love. If I call somebody phone 100 times, I have lost my mind. Yeah, I'm not. If somebody calls my phone 100 times, you're fucking nuts. Because I, like you just said, I could be dead. I could be, anything could be happening, right?
Starting point is 00:50:38 So you call on my phone that many times has nothing to do with actually being concerned about me. It has more to do what you just wanting me to acquiesce to how you want me to be right now. You want me to answer that phone and probably to say nothing. you keep calling just so I can answer the phone if I call you one time and text you one time I'm not calling back until you respond that's it
Starting point is 00:51:00 a hundred times you see me call the first time so now you're trying to force a response out of somebody and that's where that shit get fucking nuts if I if you my nigga I might call three but that's it I might call three and then block you because who to fuck you
Starting point is 00:51:20 playing with. Now I'm going to turn to abuse. That's my abusive way. Yeah, I'll give you, I'll call three, but after three, I ain't calling back. And when you call back, who died? You better have a, oh, did you just get out? What hospital room were you in? Who? Like, no, three times and enough. If you missed a whole 24 hours without talking to me, first of all, we don't broke up. You just don't know it yet. If we, like, really boyfriend, girlfriend, 24 hours past, I'll give somebody a day. I won't. You know what I'm saying? But, like, still, that's kind of pushing it, but I'll give you 24 hours. And then tomorrow, I better have, it better be a real good reason. I'm not fucking with you no more. But I'm not calling a hundred times. That is very stalkerish.
Starting point is 00:52:07 So for anybody who thinks that's okay to do to a boyfriend, it's not. It's not okay to call somebody's phone that many times. You're actually trying to charge for that. At that point. Yeah. And you're trying to force a response. Like, I'm too. play it for that shit. I'll never want a nigger to be able to show the next nigga hide on call a phone a hundred times. Like, they stroll and do this shit. Like, look how how many times this bitch don't call me? Absolutely not. So let's talk about Regina King's character. All right, she's Darnel's childhood friend, the woman who genuinely loves him for him. She knows him in real life, not all the finesse,
Starting point is 00:52:43 the player, the club, she knew him before all of that. Her character traits is loyal, grounded, the complete opposite of Brandy. She ain't got no whole lot of money, even though they had her with that master sergeant rank in the Air Force. And I was like, who they're playing with? Because anybody who really know the Air Force, no, there's no way Mia could have that much rank. The age, right?
Starting point is 00:53:03 Yeah. No. Who is the fuck is she, G.I.J? She was like in her 20s as well. Right. You came straight from high school and just and all that rank on her shoulder. I was like, oh, they played on our top with that. Hold, let's go back to her being the childhood friend and genuinely loves him for who he is, right? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Do men really like people to really know exactly who they are? I think so. I think that's when you start having problems with men, when you know them in and out. You know, and a lot of times that's why relationships spoil, and then they go on to somebody who don't know the old them. Like, especially when they get their money up. Money. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's why the first baby mama, that's who you want to consult with.
Starting point is 00:53:49 If you're fucking with a baby daddy, right? You want to always consult with that first. If he just has one baby mom, that would be great, right? But if he has a couple of them, three, two, consult with the first one because she knows exactly who he is. And that's why oftentimes they hate that first baby mama because she saw their struggle. Right. So do men really like you to know. who they are through and through. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Because they put on for their friends, but you know exactly who they are. Accept who they are through and through. You know? Once they can be that comfortable and just strip away all the armor and all the facade and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:54:34 No? I don't think so. I really, I still don't think so because do we ever know anybody through and through for real? No, shit. Do we know ourselves all the way through and through? I think it's always a gross. you're always growing you're always changing
Starting point is 00:54:47 so that's why I'd be like the first baby mama knew one version of you the youngest version of you the one who just probably becoming an adult half the time because I believe
Starting point is 00:54:59 men, they're growing change too you know so who they was with that first baby mom might not be who they are with you you don't think so it's possible
Starting point is 00:55:11 and then I honestly don't think people change that much. You know what I'm saying? Like, we might tweak a little bit depending of who we are with now, right? We do do that. We compromise in relationships. We kind of tweak who we are to suit this, this current. But I, deep down inside, do people really do 360s? No. No, maybe not a 360, but like just growth, you know, some growth. Yeah. I just feel like, I don't know, if you're capable of something at any point in your life is still in you somewhere. like if you're capable of some like real foul shit
Starting point is 00:55:49 I just don't see you like because it's just certain shit I'm not going to do because it's just not in my DNA to do so I'll always be looking at the person like damn that's you it's surprising and I can't ever forget that because I feel like you're so capable of that do you think about I think about like girls that you knew was like super hose in their 20s and now they pastor at the church or like
Starting point is 00:56:14 do the Sunday announcements. They're still capable of sucking dick on Saturday. Absolutely. That is an aspect to where they are. But they're not no more. They just grown from that version of the show. How we know? They probably got better at hiding it.
Starting point is 00:56:28 See, no, you don't get people. We ain't talking about no church people, man. That right there? You don't give people enough credit. They're growth and changing. I know school teacher. That's why. We're giving them my fucking extra credit.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Okay, then we got Bobby Brown, which is just like the comic relief. He's supposedly the voice of reason, right? He's Darnell's best friend and fellow club promoter. He's fun-loving. He's blind, provides comedic relief, but often speaks the truth. He warns Donnell about Brandy being dangerous. Darnell did not take heed, okay?
Starting point is 00:57:04 He gets caught in a crossfire of Darnell's poor decision. Because didn't he get shot? Didn't she accidentally shoot him? No, Darnell got shot. no didn't nobody get shot they just uh the she was fighting yeah they were tussling the gun in the air and then they fell out the window so how important do you think his uh character is in the show i think is he is he at fault for some of the shit like the homeboy he was complicit in the behavior a lot of the time it wasn't like because i mean he was the reason why he was
Starting point is 00:57:43 going so hard to bet because he told he couldn't get that bitch right so I mean his character
Starting point is 00:57:49 was important but he definitely told him to calm down with the foolishness before you get hurt but it was the old I feel like
Starting point is 00:57:57 it was the old nigga the club owner who was really like telling him it's a thin line but no Delores
Starting point is 00:58:04 told him that but he told him stop playing with these bitches because when emotions get involved somebody can get
Starting point is 00:58:09 hurt and then ultimately he was hurt the most out of everybody Because this club got burned down. Yeah, burn damage, water damage, electrical damage, that bitch came through.
Starting point is 00:58:19 And pretty much. Like your friend, like, I will end everything you love. Mm-hmm. Yeah, because, I mean, taking, you putting somebody in jail, it is essentially, like, metaphorically taking their life away. Right. For real. And then when she saw Bernie, she said,
Starting point is 00:58:36 I can't believe this is the little nappy head that you played me for. So is Brandy the stereotypical crazy X or is her behavior rooted in something much deeper? You know, because men love to say, oh, this one was crazy. That one was crazy, but they neglect to tell you the shit that they did to make them crazy. And can somebody make you crazy, right? Is your mental health your responsibility? Oh, that's a good question. Your mental health is ultimately your responsibility.
Starting point is 00:59:11 I was just watching something and said, like, nobody can make you angry, you know? You decide to display anger based on someone else's action, and that's a choice, right? Mm-hmm. So, I mean, I get that, but. In theory. In theory, right, because in real life, and I'm not on that level of actual self-actualization, I guess, because people do have the power to hurt my feelings to make me angry. to make me want revenge and things like that you know now brandy although she had the right to be
Starting point is 00:59:47 upset and want revenge she took it to a level that was it was greater than what darnel the the the consequences were greater than the action yeah but that's what i was talking about with that severity thing right who can tell me how to respond right so yes my mental health and all that is it is definitely up to me right but that could be like somebody like just disrespect can be like a deadly sin for somebody and apparently it was brandy so who determines like what's serious and what's not serious and right that's why i always say it's just in your best bet to just be kind to people because you don't know what a person's mental state and you're one thing that might seem small to you might be the one thing that pushed them over the top
Starting point is 01:00:43 and now they're in there boiling your bunny you know what that movie it is no not a thin line fatal attraction oh right yeah that's another one that bitch went nuts please don't play with her she could but she was nuts on her own yeah she was already nuts he did yeah that was warranted Yeah, she didn't, nobody, like, induced that. Like, she just was like that. Yeah, she just was fatally attracted to that motherfucker. And that's what I'm saying. Like, Brandy was minding her fucking business because she knows she crazy.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Right. You know what I'm saying? Because I know I'm crazy. Let me just. And a lot of women might feel like that. And that might be why a lot of women now are choosing to be by themselves, too, because they just, they don't feel like being, feeling crazy no more. They don't feel like, you know, the ups and downs, the emotions.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Like, it's just too scary to start over for somebody else with somebody else and possibly go through the same shit that you've been through in previous relationships. It's just tough. One of the girls this past weekend, she was like, girl, the only reason why I still date, still fuck with men is because I ain't gay. Like, that's the only reason why. Because, I mean, we got, we got some other sexes out here. But this is the only reason why I'm still fucking with niggas because I don't like bitches. I love men. When I was outside, when I was outside.
Starting point is 01:02:03 When I was outside Saturday at St. And they was lining up, I was like, Lord, how do I get one? How do I pick one? I don't want one. I was saying you wind up things from the DMV, man, a little ticket snatches. Yes, I meet one of those stocking pants about, baby, because the nix is outside. But then on Valentine's Day, when I didn't pick one, and now I'm by myself on Valentine's Day, I'd be sad. I got to figure it out.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Yeah, you got to pick one and just see what happened. I don't know. Maybe you got to write their names on a thing and put it in a jar and shake it around and pick a name out. It just put one out at this point because I don't know. And see what happens. But, you know, things, I always tell people, you know, relationship stuff like hurt. That shit kind of changes your DNA.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Because I am not the same person I was, I would say, six years ago. Like, I'm not the same. I don't have the same, like, emotion. in relationships. I just don't. And it might come off a little bit, a little cold, right? Because I realize that
Starting point is 01:03:11 even in a relationship, and I'm not telling anybody to be selfish, but you got to make sure you're not losing yourself as a woman, right? Because we'd be doing all the things for a man in a relationship. You got to make sure you still be putting yourself first. And I feel like most of the time
Starting point is 01:03:27 we'd be putting ourselves on the back burner. And you don't want to end up bitter or jaded. You know, and that's the whole. hard part because so many times of being played with will ultimately make you start making you turn bitter or make you start feeling jaded and displaying negative, you know, characteristics and characters traits toward relationships and then you end up like Brandy. Yeah, I've seen this post online. I can't, I probably won't be able to find it, but it was on Instagram and it was a guy saying
Starting point is 01:03:58 like once you break, and it's for women in particular, no, matter of fact, it may not just just have been for women. It said, basically once you break someone's trust, it takes, like, eggs amount of time to build that trust back. So, like, imagine you breaking your woman's trust four times out the years. Like, she's just finding out some bullshit. You cheat and money missing, whatever it is, right? It might take 10 years for her to get over that shit.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Who can tell me how long is going to take for me to be okay, would you? Right. I can tell you how much is going to take, but I can't tell you how long, right? Because it, you get me about $5 million, bitch. I don't forgot everything. Like, ain't nothing ever happened. We started from scratch. You're a brand new nigger.
Starting point is 01:04:44 So I can tell you how much it's going to cost you. But I can't tell you how long it's going to take. Right. But after like, think about the relationships where money has never been an issue, you know, they've always had a bunch of money. And now you're doing shit. You can't buy your way out of something that's already spent. You know, you already got money.
Starting point is 01:05:02 So now what? Right. You know? But we don't know about that. So if you got five needs, then you know. Money always going to fuck people up. It don't matter how much you got. This is why men still fight women and divorces and vice versa.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Like nobody wants nobody playing with their fucking money. So money is actually where you hit them at. That's how you get people together. Yeah, but I'm saying if you're in a marriage where a woman has access to millions of dollars already, then it's kind of like giving her, you know, more money is that going to change? Oh, that's what you're saying. Yeah. Well, I guess at that point then you, well, listen, you threat divorce, right? And I'm going to take half. That's because, so leaving now, so when you got millions of dollars already, the threat of leaving, right,
Starting point is 01:05:52 could get your ass killed. Right, that part. So money is still the root. Money is still going to be like the thing that'll make somebody stop acting up. or forget right their part for me for me i don't know about everybody else but for me you know my forgiveness can be bought i'm sorry so um toxic masculinity and accountability so darnell's lack of emotional maturity um the lesson and taking responsibility for how you treat people do you think he learned his lesson so now he could be in a better relationship or i guess if him then Mia decide to be together, his childhood friend. He was laying in that hospital bed, sipping from that straw.
Starting point is 01:06:40 I think he definitely learned a valuable lesson about how to handle people and their emotions. I used to be with this guy in my 20s, and I would always tell him, because I'm not the crazy bitch, right? But I would always warn him, like, somebody ain't going to do something to you one day. because the things he would do would definitely have a crazy bitch doing a lot of shit to him and my ex-fiancee like this bitch he was pulling up and knocking on the bedroom window
Starting point is 01:07:08 and shit like that like that's a crazy person and you still putting dick in her yeah my grandma says she's seeing somebody cut her brother out of his bought him a suit and cut the suit off his ass out of the juke joint when they were young
Starting point is 01:07:22 what Cutting him right out of the suit He had to go home, ass naked Because that means Slice him up I guess I'm indifferent about Brandy character I really feel like she's not that crazy Like she is crazy in theory
Starting point is 01:07:40 Like she is But she is not just Right She ain't just crazy For the strength of being crazy No you led her there You took her there And you got you suffered the consequences
Starting point is 01:07:53 of it. And that's a valuable lesson. It's a lot of people missing from this earth today because they play with somebody feelings. And that applies to women too, y'all. Y'all don't play with these niggas because they got emotions too. And, you know, there is truly a thin line between love and hate because I believe that they're the same emotion.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Right. Loving somebody and hating them. It's like, it's very, very extremely strong emotions, especially like being in love with somebody. and then getting hurt, like that shit will alter who you are a little bit. So yeah, like just this, this, it's the same on different ends of the spectrum. Be fucking careful. But they're so close together.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Ain't that the crazy part? Mm-hmm. Yeah. So set your emotional boundaries, okay? Tell people who you are up front. Hey, I'm crazy. You put that dick in me raw. Shit going to get lit.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Okay, just letting you know up front. I don't know. And they keep fucking a crazy bitch. They keep putting dick in the girl who be busting a car window and stuff like that. And that is just not who I am. So maybe that's why relationships be going array with me because I'm not crazy. I know men like mean girls. I am a mean bitch now.
Starting point is 01:09:16 I could be a mean girl, but I'm not a crazy girl. You know, I might sound like your mom like your mama a little bit when I'm telling you to do some shit. See, I think I'm, I have, I identify more with Brandy. Like, I'll be nice and nice and nice and nice and then I spit in your face, bitch. Like I told me, like I know he was surprised to hear me say that because I've been like this sweet, you know, docile little thing the whole time. And then now you took me here and now this is how I'm talking to you. And I mean it. But I'm working on that, y'all.
Starting point is 01:09:54 I'm working on that. Yeah, we are all work in progress. And I'm working on not being mean, right? It is just shit. Shit just make you be mean sometimes, man. That's not my normal setting either. It wasn't. It used to not be my normal setting.
Starting point is 01:10:10 But things, I've been through some shit, okay? That just has me different. And I might not even care enough to be mean nowadays. So it's really not even I don't even say nothing anymore for real So that might be a problem too Because now like even if you don't feel like Some shit is festering
Starting point is 01:10:26 It might be festering And so when you finally do say something about it It might come out in anger Right? Because you've just been Just not saying shit Holding on to it So what's your last last For the girls and guys listening?
Starting point is 01:10:39 I'm a little bit of brandy Okay, just a tiny bit of brandy Tiny tiny bit of brandy A little bit of brandy Like one of my home girls sent the nigger who she pregnant for some balloons to his birthday party that his bitch planned for him. She sent congratulations as a boy, big dumbass balloons and had him delivered via Instacart to his birthday party. That's my level of crazy. Yeah. That's nice. Yeah, that's not too much.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Just in case somebody didn't know. Right. Everybody who love you that's in here know you got a baby on the way. Right. Yeah, like I think that's nice. That's my level of crazy. Yeah, and that's not too much, you know nobody's going to die nobody getting shot you know that's right but if he wasn't outside playing that wouldn't happen to him he wouldn't be getting them balloons if he was being
Starting point is 01:11:28 having integrity and operate honest yeah with some fucking integrity and that's my last last just operate with integrity and then you don't have to worry about nobody being brandy right being the brandy sending you no balloons or calling you a bitch and telling you that they're going to
Starting point is 01:11:44 spit on you that part you know all right y'all listen be careful out here because brandies be fucking lurking and they be lurking y'all niggas be careful out here with y'all dating these these bitches I like this y'all if you enjoyed this episode as well y'all tune in every thursday on the black effect eye heart radio app wherever the fuck you get your podcast at this is your co-host a j holiday 2.0 on instagrams if you want to follow me now if you want to get on kick a tam y'all it's official tam bam on gristogram on instagram i love y'all so much thank y'all for tuning in once again remember speak now and never hold you crazy because fuck these niggas because why are you
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