The Breakfast Club - We Talk Back: Peri Who? feat. Dr. Kelly Elmore

Episode Date: December 13, 2025

The Black Effect Presents... We Talk Back! In this episode of We Talk Back, AJ Holiday and TamBam sit down with Dr. Kelly Elmore for a candid and educational discussion about perimenopause and menopause—two stages of women’s health that are often misunderstood and overlooked. Dr. Elmore breaks down the myths surrounding menopause, highlighting the benefits and risks of hormone replacement therapy (HRT) and the crucial role of lifestyle choices in navigating this transition. They explore the impact of stress, nutrition, and intentional fitness on hormonal balance, as well as the importance of community support and open dialogue among women. Dr. Elmore shares her personal journey into medicine and emphasizes the need for proactive, holistic health care as women age. Together, they stress the importance of educating future generations about women’s health, empowering listeners to embrace menopause not as an ending, but as a powerful new phase of womanhood.  Follow us! @wetalkbackpodcast @officialtambam @ajholiday2.0  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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the IHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody. It's Dr. Kelly O'MZ. and I'm on We Talk Back podcast. I can't wait for you to hear us talk about perimenopause and menopause. We're going to give you some real information so that you can keep it wet, clean, and fantastic through your 40s and 50s. Welcome to We Talk Back Podcast, a production of IHeart Radio and the Black Effect Network.

We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who talk back. what's up y'all is your girl a j holiday what's up tam bam hey y'all is me tan bam i love y'all so so very much and i'm glad y'all came back i miss y'all how was your weekend how's your weekend they probably be in their car they probably be in their car like a j going to say this tam go say this and then tam go say how's your weekend they're saying it with you like and then a jay going to say, uneventful. I ain't do much.

I didn't do that then. I went to Costco. I feel a tight. Definitely went to Costco. Definitely went to TJ Max. And my super bright light skin home girl who's been in town

since I was like, I don't know, 12 came by this weekend. So I ain't do much. Just chilling and being grateful. I did go see my mom. I hung out with her a little bit

on Sunday. I know she loves it When I come sit over there a lot And your whole day be gone But I don't know I worked out a little bit And that's about it I ain't do much this weekend for real

I really just relaxed And chilled I was just working It's that time of year where I'm busy You know, thank you, Jesus So I just been working I had nothing of info happen Oh no I lie

I went to You always lie, go I went to a My teeth look white as hell I think it's that like Hell yeah I was just about to say that bitch Like what the fuck They're super white

I think it's the light I don't know But anyway I went to this new spot in Charlotte called Astra Mediterranean something lounge And it was like one of those

It was like a halal place But it had the hookah And it's like It was good You know, they didn't have alcohol, but I don't want none of that anyway. And I had some food, and it was nice. And then I went to Crave and a dessert bar and I got a... That's one of my favorite spots in Charlotte.

I still love Crave. Yeah, consistent. Yeah, consistent quality. And I had like a little hookah, a little cocktail in a carrot cake, cupcake. Yes. And that was it. That was my way. We don't eat the bread pudding from there?

I'm not a bread pudding girl. girl I'm just more I would yeah I've never had bread pudding now that I think about it oh you're tripping when I tell you me and basilisa just go there for the bread pudding because they give you you know it's like in a little uh little saucer and or ramkin that's what they call a romkin and they have like the ramekin and they have the um like the the frosty sauce you know the white shit what is it called icing they have like icing yeah like a little thing on the side I'm not a super duper What is the shit?

Bread pudding girlie But I did grow up off of bread pudding And they have a very, very, very, very good bread pudding If they so have it on a menu You should try it next time I'll try it I've never had bread pudding I always associated bread pudding

And fruit cake Is the same thing Like porridge This is really good Like so old people's food It is old people food Because old people when like the bread is about to get old they just turn that shit into bread pudding right quick or french toast

our french toast have a little mold on it old ass bread so yeah that was it i didn't do shit sounds fun let's get me the sin y'all uh so pa pierce says the only way to really know if a girl loves you is a cheat on her and see how she reacts so uh is Is this his podcast? I don't know. Does they have a woman? I don't think so. I mean, Paul Pearce is one of the biggest basketball players all time, right?

And he's on this Truth After Dark podcast, and he sparked a lot of backlash by claiming that the only authentic way to determine if a woman truly loves you is to cheat on her and observe her reaction. He suggested that loyalty in the aftermath of infidelity proves devotion. That is disgusting. And I think a lot of us, a lot of women, have really been thinking, like, you know, if you go through some shit and stay a down-ass woman, like he's going to choose you type mentality. Absolutely not. I ain't ever been a dumb bitch in that way. I definitely have dealt with infidelity in relationships only really because it's just human nature. But I also recognize now I don't have to.

Yeah. Doing that test sound crazy. Like, what in the hell? Don't test me because you're going to fail every fucking time. Is he married? I don't know. Is Paul Pierce married? He can't be married, the type of shit he'd be talking in there talking about

get a five or a seven. Link, bitch, if you are okay. The worst part is these are old farts talking like this. These are old ass fucking men. Like, you know. Right. And then he said the best way to see of a girl loves you. That's the problem right there.

Y'all fucking were girls. Girls and not grown women. Try a woman. Okay? Right. Because women be making niggas cry. Okay? Because I'm going to make you cry.

I'm going to break your heart. I'm getting the fuck up out of there. It's so toxic. Really, that's really. So basically you want to hurt the person you say you love because that's what you're doing, right? To see if they love you, that's weird. Yeah. You don't love her.

Fuck that shit. You don't love her. That's bad advice. Don't listen to that, nigga. You're going to find yourself alone. Yeah, and also, you're not a millionaire. Okay, so don't listen to a balling ass baller. Right.

The type of shit he'd be doing. Y'all not the same. What you're going to do is lose your entire livelihood. Because she love him. She might stay because it's comfortable. Exactly. Like, her lifestyle is just completely different, right? So he ain't trying to compare ourselves to Beyonce and Jay-Z relationship

when we in these relationships to y'all and niggas. Right. So don't be a thing. Please be Paul Pierce. But the thing is that he doesn't say anything that I don't think

that men already think, right? He's just saying the things out loud. Because I really, I remember when I broke up with my ex most recently, like leading up to it, he was like, we're supposed to break up.

Like, he mentioned his other friends, right? Mm-hmm. And how they went through all these things and she stayed like, I've already went through things and stayed. I don't feel like going through anything else, nigger. You bring me out. Are you dumb? She's dumb. You've reached the quota, nigga. You way past the threshold of bullshit. And my tolerance for bullshit is so fucking high because I just understand human nature. You know what I'm saying? And I'm not a fucking loser. So even in relationships, I'm going to try my fucking best. But at what point do you think

you can just continuously be disloyal in a relationship and a woman is supposed to keep you. And stay, like, bitches get tired, okay? Yeah. And the thing is that I'll never think I can't do better. I can do comparable to you or greater every time time. Every single time. Yeah, so I think women just got to up their self-esteem, man. Get the fuck up out of there.

Whether he got money and not, get your own bag. All right, that part. All right, listen to this. listen to this. A wanted man in Ohio sent the police a selfie after seeing his photo on the news because he didn't like how I looked. And it wasn't the most flattering picture of him, y'all. So a man in Ohio made headlines after sending police a selfie because he didn't like the muckshot shown on the news. Identified as Donald Pugh, he was wanted for skipping a court appearance and linked to other cases like arson and vandalism. He even emailed the police saying his mock shot was terrible and offered a better photo of himself wearing sunglasses in the car.

Police thanked him for being helpful but reminded him to rather see him in person to discuss his charges. His story quickly went viral, proving that crime and vanity don't mix well. But is he in jail, though? Nope. That nigga saw himself in the news like, oh, y'all got me fucked up. Here. Here this is a picture. In the photo, y'all, the photo that he sent is much.

better. It's a better angle. Hey, NASP police. They know they could have picked a better picture than that. Right. Right. They're trying to make me look like a hardened criminal, right? That's funny story. He definitely probably wanted for some scamming

shit. Okay, credit card. But you got to be like mentally ill to do this, right? Oh, not give a fuck. You know, he's just having fun. Like, I'm going to jail anyway, man. Let me just enjoy it. My time. I'm a, uh, what a two chain song? I'll be freshest hair when the feds come

I'll be freshest head when the feds come That's what he was doing This nigga, I know he's from Youngstown, Ohio He's got to be I thought he was from Harlem No Ohio, oh yeah, they're flashing people too In Harlem for sure

Like don't take no fucked up picture of me Y'all so remember last week we were talking about And I know y'all probably seen it now This black woman I think they were in was it Ohio? California. Might have been California that's happened at a gold gym. Tish Hyman, she accused this man of exposing himself essentially in the woman's locker room.

And he says he's a transgender woman and he belongs in a woman's locker room. The gym ultimately kicked her out, the woman, Tish Hyman, and basically canceled her membership after she, you know, was yelling in the middle of the goals. Jim, like, what the fuck is wrong with y'all? This is a grown man in the bathroom. But this week, y'all, apparently this same man, transgender person, accused of exposing himself in women's locker room, was convicted of brutally beating his ex-wife before taking her name. Okay? So Tish was not wrong for calling his ass out. And first of all, when are you going to transition?

When are you going to actually transition? When are you going to cut that dick off? Okay. Because if you still got it, how's got a transition? Because can you be called trans if you still have your... birth parts that's what I'm saying like to me I thought that trans meaning

the woman or the man has transitioned into the other sex by way of the sex change if there hasn't been a sex change and there hasn't been a legal name change and this person just can pull up in female women's spaces that's a problem because I don't think

any trans man is pulling up in the men's restroom right so this is just men trying to debo women's spaces And again, from last week, Tish, she's a lesbian woman, right? So the transgender person, yeah, it happened in Los Angeles. Bathroom now being convicted of assaulting his now ex-wife while living in Ohio as a man before taking the victim's name as their own.

Alex Black ran a foul of women, ran a file of women at a gym in Beverly Hills, including singer, song. writer Tish Hyman, who accused them of exposing himself in it and harassing her in the locker room. And you could just see him pulling up in there like he's supposed to be in there. See, that's why I don't like that. And from the pictures, he didn't, and this is where I feel like it's a slippery soap, because, slope, because he didn't look like he was trying to identify as a woman, for real, to me. Because he didn't, he looked. look like a man with earrings on.

That was it. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But then I know women who look like men with earrings on. So how do you... No, I ain't trying to be funny. I mean it like that. You know, like, so...

How do you say, like, this person isn't trans or how you say this person isn't... Like, how do you determine that? I don't even know. You determine it by your genetic makeup. You were born a man. I was born a woman. Okay, just because you have slick back hair with earrings on

and a woman can also appear like that, being a woman is not about aesthetic. It's science. It is genetics. Okay, that's why even, you know, at the doctor's office, they still have, like, on your paperwork, you know, they ask you, they want to be inclusive, right? So they have all the things in a man where you,

but they ultimately ask, were you born male or female? That's, we. not talking about what somebody look like. Yes, there are definitely women that look like men. But genetically, they're still a woman and they belong in female spaces, right? Women are not out here trying to violate. I feel like that man just wants to see women naked. And he's doing it under the guise of being transgendered.

Especially with that history of domestic violence against women and then still an identity. Mm-hmm. A lot of those people, they're like, mean. They are mean. And, you know, like, that is a telltale sign that your man might be, okay, on down low. If he's mean to you, if he's putting his hands on you, if he's being belligerent and abusive towards you, they don't like you. They don't like you. And oftentimes they might be battling their sexuality and taking it out on you. How dare you get to be a real woman? And, you know, and they are the main ones that are so upset and at arms about,

men who can live freely, gay men, transgendered women who are out, right? Don't give a fuck when nobody thinks about it. It's the DL men that are dangerous. Those are the dangerous ones. Okay. I agree. Hold on me add this on you, y'all. I'm sorry.

I've seen this post or Instagram, this girl. She was like, somebody said that if you're a man far and a lot, you might be DM. And I had to think I had to think back Okay, big Girl, bye No, because the bitch is in the comments Listen

What's up with your gut, my guy? What is that with your your gastro system? Like what's going on? Why is your booty clapping so fucking much? I'm about to go. Girl.

Well, one bitch commented It said she was arguing with her ex-husband And he had farted And she said, Why do you fuck your fart smell like lube? I commented I said mad, damn, I'm so mad that I don't fuck with niggas

That I got to violate like this anymore Because I would definitely have that in the arsenal Your fart smell like lube That is ridiculous That is asinine I bet Why your fart smell like Louvre is crazy. Y'all, we have a guest on today, Dr. Kelly.

She is talking perimenopause and menopause with us. We'll be right back. You are crazy. All right, y'all. So today we're turning up the heat, okay, literally, because we're talking perimenopause. This is what Tammy want to talk about. And listen, we are not going through this phase yet, okay? We just want to see what's, okay?

I'm not, listen, I'm not very sure. That's why I have questions, you know, because things are changing. Yeah, because it's exactly. So it's like that in-between stage when your body, like, we ain't done yet, but definitely changing. Okay, so today we have the incredible Dr. Kelly Elmore. We talk back. She's a board certified OBGYN, retired Navy, Kavana, retired Navy. Captain. Okay, so she's the boss.

Happy Gator, Zay. Okay. Right. And founder of K-O-E medical consulting. She's dedicated to helping women lead, live, thrive through every stage of life, including this one that me and Tammy are not going through. Yay. Y'all welcome. Aren't we all? Aren't we all?

Aren't we all? Thank you for joining us, Dr. Kelly. I really, really appreciate you coming on, talking to us and our listeners. Absolutely. Absolutely. I'm here. for it. This is what I love. I tell people I love what I do, who I do it for, and who I do it with. So that's my job. So tell us how you got into, because, like, y'all, before the show started, she said she was Dr. Kelly since she was six years old. So tell us about how you got into becoming a doctor, like your background. Well, I tell people all the time I was called to

the pool pit of medicine. First, I want to say thank you both for having me on your wonderful show. I was called to the pulpit of medicine very early. I didn't have doctors in my immediate family. As a matter of fact, I was the first one to go and complete college. So, you know, everything after that, I was the first for that as well. But when I was a little girl, I, you know, something told me in my spirit that I wanted to be a physician. And then one day I was watching KPBS. I think I might have been nine or 10 years old. And they were showing the first laparoscopic hysterectomy. My mom walked through the door like, what are you watching? Because if you can imagine, And a woman is like in a certain position having the surgery.

You know, well, she was like, what are you watching? And I'm like, a laparstopic hysterectomy. And she's like, did you? What is that? And I said, well, that's what I want to do. And I used to watch this show called Heartbeat, which was all about OBGYNs. And I was like, and that's what I want to do too. Wow.

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What's one myth about menopause you wish women would stop believing? One myth about menopause. Well, this is an interesting question because right now, they're actually changing the FDA black box warning on hormone replacement therapy. So a lot of people thought that they could not utilize hormone replacement for the last 20 years due to an article that came out or a study that came out that told them, you know, it's going to kill them. They're going to get more breast cancer, cardiovascular disease, all that other stuff. So the myth is that more women are able to utilize supplements and or hormone replacement therapy medications in order to help them navigate perimenopause and menopause. So, Ari, for someone who, like me, who's, like, so far away from all of this, perimenopause.

And you explained to me and our listeners, what exactly is menopause and perimenopause? Like, what is it? Because when I love to start where, so it's a change, right? And I will tell you that if you live past the age up to the age of 60, you are going to go through the change. Just like when you were born, you went through adolescence, puberty, you're going through the change. So perimenopause, menopause is the change of our hormones. And I like to start with menopause because it's just like more of a definitive space before I get the definition of perimenopause. So menopause is when our hormone levels, estrogen progesterone, drop to such significant lows that we no longer have our periods.

So we're not menstruating for 12 months. However, there's more than 50 different symptoms that are associated with. with having the drop in your estrogen progesterone and your testosterone. So menopause officially is 12 months without your period or cycle. And then after that is what people call postmenopause. But I also like to say one myth to people. Menopause lasts for the rest of your life. That is the area you are in in your life for the rest of your life.

Once you stop having your periods, you're in menopause. See, I used to think it's like when you stop, Like it, men. Men, no, pause. Pause on these men because of, you know. So that's funny you say that. Teenage years. So that's funny you say that because, you know, one of the symptoms of the many symptoms is you can have decreased libido, decreased desire. And I remember a few of my friends coming to me like, oh, my God, I don't know what's happening when they hit their 40s. Like 40s was like, yes, baby, yes. They wanted to have sex, the whole thing, right? When you hit 40s. And then all of a sudden, all of that energy just like continues to wax and wane.

And that's where we call the perimenopause. So prior to you going through menopause, which means you're not having periods anymore, the perimenopause is that time before. And that time before can be anywhere from five to 10 years prior to your actual menopause. Most people go through like the stage change that one year between the ages of 48 and 52, right? But that time before that, that is that paraps. perimenopausal time. And, you know, a lot of people think about fertility, right? So they're reproductive time. So that perimenopause, you can still get pregnant. Your hormones are

just like doing this. Yeah. So your hormones are doing this. And it's just like I tell people, the way we start is the way we end. So if you had puberty, if you remember puberty, that's what perimenopause is like as well. So I got, so that's why I, I've never had a Zit in my fucking like, excuse my French, but all of a sudden, I got zits on my jaw line. Is that a symptom of Perry, perhaps? Yep. So estrogen, so estrogen, the decrease in estrogen, progesterone testosterone, right? Remember, I told you, there's 50 different symptoms or more that people can have. Now, estrogen is in the, in every part of our body, our skin, our hair, our, you know, our brains, our heart, everywhere is estrogen. Okay.

So when you're starting to see things start happening, and then also, depending on what you're doing for your nutrition, and I recommend people to eat what we call the Viva Life Five, fruits, vegetables, nuts, grains, beans, drinking our water. And if you eat meat, then make sure it's, you know, high quality as clean as possible. But if you're, if you are eating outside of those things, you're going to see your body respond even more to having this decrease in estrogen. So that is what is going on. Your hormone levels are dropping. And you're, and you are, are starting to see the, our bodies respond, our tissues respond, our organs respond to that. Should we be taking like estrogen? Sorry. So it is, that is a very personal conversation. So every single person should have that conversation with their provider because we have to think about what's your family history, what's your personal history. And there are certain things that if you are active, like if you have active breast cancer, no, we're not going to give you hormone replacement, right? We may, and sometimes we can do something like, local to the vagina, but that's one of those things we have to have that conversation about.

If you have excessive, I mean, excuse me, uncontrolled hypertension, we have to have a conversation about that because the cardiovascular risk could increase depending on what your cardiovascular risks are. So it's not that it's a complete no, but we have to have a conversation with you about your personal history in order to recommend. Now, hold on. You said you could do something to the vagina. What is that? Tighten it. Make it more wet. Like, what is it? For sure. So, as you know, your vagina is very, like, responsive to estrogen.

So the estrogen, collagen, the juiciness, all of that, right? We need to make sure that we are able to keep that, like you said, moist and wet, if that's what you so choose and how you so choose to use it. One thing I tell people, and this is a, I don't know if it's a myth or, well, it's a truth on my basis. If you don't use it, you will lose it. Okay. So the point of the matter is we don't get to worry about that.

I definitely make sure. I'll go through like spurts while I don't, but. And so what I say is, if I use it, I don't like you. We got to make sure it's clean, healthy, and as wet as you want it to be, right? So that being said, if you need to utilize a vaginal, like, moisturizer, you can use that, right? So we have replacements for that. We also can use vaginal estrogen locally so that you can, continue to keep that area, like I said, healthy and moist. Because besides getting the itchy,

scratchy vagina, as long as you don't have any inflammation or infection associated with it, you can also have what we call urinary tract infect, what seems like to be urinary tract infections. And what we call that is the genital urinary syndrome or symptoms of menopause, perimenopause. And that's because those estrogen levels are so low and it's dry. And now you're getting all of these symptoms associated that seem like urinary tractors. contract infections, but may or may not be. Well, you have all these things for, like, men, libido, right? But there, so we have creams, right, like you're saying.

But do we have a Viagra-type pill for women's libido? It's like everything is catered to men prolonging their, I don't know, sexual problem. Sexual appetite. Yeah, so actually, there are medications for women that help them improve their libido, their sex drive. Also, like I said, improve their vaginal moisture, the elasticity of your entire body as far as your skin and everything like that. So yeah, they're coming, they're on the market. They're not talked about as much, but they are, you know, more and more are coming out. And especially, like I said, we have this at the health and human services level now. We have some really powerful

OBGYN, Eurogology advocates that are there in Congress and making sure these things are moving forward. So we have, you know, we have different opportunities for different people. So, you know, it's not just a one-stop shot. Hormone replacement therapy when we talk about estrogen replacement, that is definitely the therapy that is going to help you with your hot flashes. That's like the gold standard to help prevent the hot flashes, which is what most people hear about. But then there are other opportunities for us as well if you don't want to use estrogen-based or progesterone-based products. Is this true or false? Like does having a hysterectrine? cause perimenopause or menopause early, early, like that stage to happen early because when you talk about knowing your family history and stuff like that, I don't know, a woman in

my family who's not over, you know, 50 who have not already had a hysterectomy from my mom, aunts, older cousins. So I can't pinpoint what. Like I am always happy when I see my period, right? Right. So, yeah, I agree with us. I love seeing my period because I mean I'm still I'm still youthful. I can still get pregnant. Pop that cooch. I can do all the things, okay? But how do you know when everybody, like, I don't know when my mom would have went

through menopause, especially now you're saying like when menopause starts, it doesn't stop. Like, that's just the rest of your life is menopause. Right. And now I don't know the difference between PMS and our menopause with these old ladies. Yeah, I understand. I understand. It's me, no.

Yeah. So ask your question again, because I got in, you know, with the pop to. I got thrown off with a. pop. I'm sorry. Pop the coochie. Because listen, is women in menopause still pop in their coochie? Don't get a yes, absolutely. Which is why I need to mention this, that we still need to, even though people are like, oh, I can't get pregnant because I've gone through menopause, my eggs and run out. The likelihood of me getting pregnant is very, very low. But I never put anything past the higher power. We still need to prevent STDs. So gonorrhea, chlamydia, herpes, hepatitis, HIV.

So because people are living longer, stronger, and thriving past their 50s, we still need to prevent all of that. But go back. Through menopause quicker, right? Oh, with hysterics. Yes. So, so it's interesting because hysterectomy means removal of the uterus. But if you ask the woman if you've had a hysterectomy, many of them don't know whether or not they got their ovaries and areas removed, right? So it's not even a partial hysterectomy. The removal of the ovaries is called an ophorectomy. That's what it's called. The removal of the tubes is called a salpingectomy. The removal of the uterus is called a hysterectomy. So yes, you have to very much get into the nuance with people about that. Now, sometimes when you remove the uterus, some of the

blood flow that would be going to the ovaries decreases so people can see the changes. Like I says, you can have some perimenopal symptoms that seem to come on maybe not faster, but because you have decreased blood flow, you're getting those same type of symptoms. it's more when that estrogen level is gone. So if you have your ovaries removed, then, yes, no longer are you, yes, you are in medical or surgical menopause right then and there. So you can have surgical menopause, meaning that I took out your ovaries or decreased the significant flow to your ovaries. You can have medical menopause, which means I gave you medication to stop the function of your ovaries, or you can have what a quote unquote natural

menopause where you've just matured and aged into menopause. And that is a good question because so many people are like, well, I have my uterus taken out. I don't know if I'm gone through menopause. If you listen to your body, you will absolutely know when you stop cycling. But we have to be in tune with our bodies. And that's why I teach a lot about mindset and knowing yourself from the inside out. I had a friend, she was fighting breast cancer. And she said that she was going into early menopause because of the medicine. Is that, does that happen from chemotherapy? We'll send you into early menopause.

So that's what we call medical menopause. So, yes, you can actually end up starting to have the symptoms. You can fully go into menopause or you can go into a state of, you know, stopping where those medications are stopping the hormones from functioning that they normally do. And that's the whole purpose, especially when you have an estrogen or progesterone positive breast cancer. So you can either be paused or you can actually fully go into the menopause. And everybody's a little bit different how they respond to those therapies and medications. Don't they have like medication that can like, I was going to say, don't they have like a

medication that can like basically if you're going through chemo that can like guard your your eggs? Correct. So they do put you on medications that can help, like I said, make that pause happen so that it can help protect, right? But we don't know until you come off of all the medications, whether or not what functionality you're going to have. And that's typically not something that they're just going to do for you. You've got to pay for that, right? Because, no, that a lot of times is a part of your therapy. And they should be having the conversation with women in regards to how do I protect my ovaries?

How do I continue to maintain my fertility? And also, and then I'm thinking you're talking about potentially egg harvesting. So when I harvest my eggs so that I can save them so that I can use them for later, either in my uterus or womb or somebody else's. And that brings me to my next question. Does stress play a part and how quickly your body goes into the change? Have you ever listened to those true crime shows and found yourself with more questions than answers? And what is this?

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Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Absolutely. I think that, especially for black women, we are known to go through menopause, perimenopause, about eight months to a year earlier than women are kind of part. Right. Non-women of color, I guess you could say, Caucasian women, whatever you want to say. So, yeah. And I do believe that that is associated with the amount of stress and weight that we carry from racism, structural racism, discrimination, prejudice,

and then just having the weight of the world on our shoulders, you know, the financial, responsibilities, the mental and emotional responsibilities that we carry more than most people do. Stop stressing. Yeah, it's going to get old fast. And that's another reason why. That's the only thing. It might get older faster, but you won't look it. I know, right? And a lot of people are like, oh, I don't look my age. And yeah, it's true. Many times we don't look our age because I think that genetically, genetically we have developed protective mechanisms so that we don't age in the same way that other people age. But I will tell you, if you are smoking and if you are, you know, significantly, if you're obese, significantly overweight, if you are not managing your cardiovascular health, diabetes, it doesn't matter, you know, if you're not doing those things, you're going to look older than you should.

Amen to that. That's what I was going to ask, like, when you, how does fitness, like, how should we change our fitness when we're going to paramedipause? because I assume our metabolisms and things like that are affected by this as well. So there are. Absolutely. So your metabolisms are slowing down. And so what I tell people is encourage young people already to exercise. Whatever that is, if it's dancing, dancing, Zumba and whatever it is, Pilates, running, hiking, biking, getting out there and walking, make sure you are doing that.

So young, if you're young, put your kids in some type of sport. and make them do it. As you mature, continue doing that. Find your community so that you can enjoy exercise. We should be exercising five to six times a week, if not seven, right? Even if the seventh day is going for a walk. But we should be exercising and enjoying that. So, and then as you are, as you are aging, right, you should be increasing your strength exercises. So that is why, you know, even doing resistance fans is so important. So adding weights, you don't have to add, you know, significantly heavy weights. You don't have to lift 100, 200 pounds. You don't have to do that. You can lift 20, 30 pounds. You can lift your own body weight. I mean, you know,

you weigh 120, 160 pounds or more. No, I never been able to lift my body weight since I was an elementary. I can never do a pull-up. Yeah. So being there, but, you know, we start with, we start with doing push-ups. So in the morning, when I wake up, I do my body scan, and this is part of my Viva Life program that I do. But I wake up, I do my body scan, and I ask myself, you know, what's going on in my body from the top of my head down to the sole of my feet? And how do I focus my energy so that I can heal that space? Then I get down on the floor, I do my calicinics, and that's push-ups, that's crunches, that stretches. And I know it sounds funny, right?

So I don't know. My mom watched Jack La Lane and, you know, I did Tybo when I was in my 20s and 30s. Whatever you need to do to keep moving and to keep that body, you know, strong, those are the things that we need to do. I remember one time I went to this female doctor and I was putting on weight and I was like, but I just don't have time. My life is so busy. I just travel and I work in two different cities and I just don't have time. And she was like, I'm a mother of five. I'm a wife. I have this practice and I still find time every morning to get up and go to the gym. So what were you saying? And then it becomes my hair and all that other stuff.

No, I schedule it. So one of the things my family knows is the first hour of the day is mine. That's where I meditate, journal, and get my exercise in. And then for the rest of the day, I'm optimizing my nutrition, my hormones, and my sleep. And I get my sleep. And so you're talking to an OBGYN who used to, you know, do 36-hour shifts and still got her workout in. Because it just makes you feel better mentally and emotionally. And, of course, it's going to help the physical aspects.

Your heart health, prevent diabetes, prevent significant weight gain, all of that. Yeah, the crazy thing is I have a consultation today at a weightlifting gym. All right. Yeah, because I go to the gym, but I don't be knowing what I'm doing half the time, right? And I want to, like, I just don't want shit to move no more. I want the body to stay kind of like the same size, but I don't want no more jiggle. Yeah, I understand. And that can happen.

And so you're being intentional about what you do and how you do it because you don't have to be in a gym for 22 hours. You don't have to do that. It's a discipline and consistency for me. man, I just got to get some discipline in my life. Yep. Listen, I will, I will, I did 75 hard earlier this year. And I was going to the gym twice a day for 75 days straight. And then right after that, I did 75 fat, like right behind me.

Fuck around again, 75. You better cut it out. It is, I struggle with the consistencies, like just staying with it. That's my hardest part. I can do, I do the workouts. I know the workouts. I know the routines. I know how to live ways, but just going for life.

A lifestyle change is what I struggle with. That is my kryptonite. So I don't. I tell you understand. And that's one thing that we have just incorporated in my life. You know, like I said, it's on my calendar. Don't mess with me. And even if I can't get like a hard workout in, I'm going to do something.

Something even, you know, walking, something to get my mind going. Like right now I don't feel like going to the gym, but I'm out there every morning. and I'm walking two and a half miles and I'm going up hills and I'm using the resistance bands doing the push-ups and the set-ups. So, or crunches, excuse me. I'm going to go in a little while, I think, today.

And you got to be in a community, right? So if you're in a community of people that this is what they do, so that's what my Viva lifers and I do. Like, we encourage each other to do all of these things and it's not really like me saying, you need to go. It's them seeing me go.

Like, I'm out there and I'm like, hey, what y'all, what y'all doing? You know? and the next thing you know everybody else is out doing something too right that's you don't encourage me to give my ass up today and go because i wasn't gonna go because but i'm gonna go just because you said that and let me ask you this i never like i never heard of peri menopause i heard of menopause growing up but peri menopause was never a thing is that i just started hearing about it the last is it a new concept no not at all i mean you know i will tell you when i first started hearing about it was about

20 years ago when Oprah was on with Dr. Hill, I think her name was Hildebrand or Hilda Graf, but they talked about what women need to know about sex was the book. And so it was a whole, I mean, Oprah did a whole thing on menopause, just like she's doing now in perimenopause. But I will tell you when I, even when I was going through training, you know, you grow up and they tell you you're going to have your period and they tell you don't get pregnant, right? But they don't tell you anything between that or about that. When I was going through my OBGYN training, we got the graphs that said, this is what happens with estrogen, progesterone, testosterone. I will be honest with you, it's not until you hit the different stages that you're

like, oh, this is what they were talking about. So the reason why you feel like it hasn't been talked about is, number one, they stopped talking about it, especially after that whole women's health initiative because they didn't want people to be on hormonal replacement, right? The other thing is you're going into the time of your life or other people are going into the time of their life where they're starting to feel these things so you're more interested in it. Like, we don't talk about how to get pregnant until you're trying to get pregnant. Right. So same thing. You're not going to talk about perimenopause

until you're going through the experience. Right. So what are some of the symptoms that women may mistake for something else, but it's perimenopause? Yeah, so these are important things. So I'm going to start with a heart, right? So a lot of people actually end up getting

heart palpitations, anxiety, and sometimes some shortness of breath, chest pain. But we also have to make sure that we're ruling out what could kill you, right? So we got to make sure that it's not a heart attack. We got to make sure that is not some other kind of arrhythmia or changes in your heart rate. So, but those are some of the things.

A lot of people get palpitations, anxiety associated with perimenopause, menopause. The other thing is people will notice that their weight changes. So they start getting what we call the minnow belly or that mid, that mid-drith weight game that, that the, what do they call it, the umphua, the poofa, whatever it's called. But, you know, yeah, so the muffin tops. So you start getting that. And people are like, wait a second. going on with that. And so we have to make sure, are you having a gastrointestinal problem that's

going along with that? Is this fibroid that's potentially going on? So going back to the head to toe exam is very important. And what I've noticed in primary care is we've gotten away from examining people so that we can make a differential diagnosis means what could this be and what more likely is this. People also start having joint pains. And so they're like, Uncle Arthur is here. Right. So they think they have arthritis. But it's actually inflammation because the estrogen actually moisturizes our joints, helps moisturize that. So, you know, those are some of the symptoms besides the hot flashes, vaginal dryness, mood swings. Mood swings are huge, but we have to figure out is this depression? You know, is this truly depression? Do you have a bipolar exacerbation?

Or is this associated with perimenopause or menopause? So those are so, so people are going to perimenopause get like bipolar symptoms? They can. Yeah. I mean, if you, if you, if you asked, like, my best friend called me, she was like, I don't know what's going on with my mind. And a lot of men don't tell you this, too. A lot of men don't tell you this too. They're like, man, I don't know what's going on with her, but she seemed like. And then the other thing is, as you mature, you can also, you know, adult ADD, people can get the, you know, focus deficits. And you hear me saying, um, because you get brain fog and you can't figure out what words you're supposed to say. So then some people are thinking they're going through Alzheimer's Earl. Yeah. So, yeah. I'd be feeling. like that sometimes. Like I said, but before we started recording, like I had a, I mentioned this last week too. I had a physical done and I'm like super iron deficient.

But that can also cause like the brain fog, tiredness. So I never once thought I was going through a change though, but I knew something was going on. But remember, you are going through change constantly. Our bodies are constantly changing even on a blood change. Yeah, but you are.

I mean, if you're, if you're, if you're your 40s, you are going through the change. You just haven't gotten to the big part of the change. You're going through these small, minute portions of the change. But yeah, you're going through the change. So, okay, can you, like, as long as you have your period, that means you're not in pari menopause, you're not in menopause. So as long as you have your period, so let me put it this way, as long as you're continuing to consistently have your period, then you are not in menopause. Okay. But you can still be peri menopause. So the time prior to you stopping your period for that 12 months is called perimenopause.

Now, one thing I want to say, because some people will stop their periods for the 12 months and then have a period. That needs to be investigated for endometrial cancer. Yeah, we have to investigate that. So if you stop having your period. Yeah. If you stop your period for 12 months and all of a sudden you start having, you know, bleeding, spotting, or anything like that, then that needs to be evaluated. Because it could be a form of cancer.

It could be. And it could be, you know, that depending on where you are, you can have significant stressors that trigger something. You have this cortisol response, you're, you know, and then you unfortunately start having bleeding, especially in women and fibroids. I've seen that happen to them where they have the fibroids. And even though in menopause, they should be shrinking, but you're having some significant stressors going on. And for some reason, you've triggered your hormonal milieu and it actually caused you to bleed. But even in that instance, I still make sure I'm ruling out into mutual cancer. Do women, because I feel like black women get fibroids more than our, you know, counterparts and things. Does that affect, like, how quick

you go into Perry and menopause when you have fibroids? So fibroids doesn't affect that. However, your hormonal changes will affect the fibroids. So that's why you see women having, you know, growth of the fibroids. That's why you also see them having these heavy, unbearable periods associated with fibroids. So the fibroids are hormonally impacted. So that's why you see some the changes that are going on. I wouldn't say that having fibroids puts you into perimenopause faster. Remember, that is very much based on your brain hormones and your ovaries and that communication between both. Why do you think that black women get fibroids more than other people? Yeah, so you know what? I'll be honest with you. Part of that is the stressors that we are taking on because, you know, estrogen doesn't just live in our ovaries. It lives in the adipose tissue as well. Okay. Cortisol responses from stressors, what we're eating, what our environments are, and then what our genetic history is.

Oh, and for example, my family, they all have, many people in my family have had fibroids. I've never had fibroids. I actually get my ultrasound done to make sure that they check for fibroids. But I've also been on progesterum for almost my entire life through my IUD. I've also, like I said, practiced the Viva Life 5 for my entire, almost my entire life even before I named what it was. That's what I do. And so minimizing that stress, making sure environmentally that I am, you know, not in environments that could probably trigger the hormonal responses or growth as well as what I'm eating.

So food is your medicine as well. Do you use seasoning salt? Do you use seasoned salt? because I just think, lorries is what's giving us five boys, y'all. Stop you, please. So do I use season and salt sparingly? I will say, yes, I do. You know, I grew up.

I'm lowers, too. But I use it very sparingly. So if you come eat at my house, you may feel like the food might be a little bit more bland than you used to. But that being said, you know, I don't have hypertension. I don't have diabetes. I'm not overweight. And I'm doing this intentionally. So it's really important to, when you see.

seasoning your food to make sure that we're minimizing the sovium that's attached to it. I swear, y'all, over the years, my mama's food, it's still good, but it tastes more like white people food because she don't use salt like that no more. She don't fry no more. She don't, everything is changing. But I'm, you know, I'm adopting that a little bit. Okay. Yeah. So, I mean, just taking out fried foods, right, will make such a big difference. And what I tell people is, if you do it more than 90% of the time, my colleague says 80% of the time, But if you eat, you know, on that clean eating more than 90% of the time or even 85% of the time, you're going to be used so much better off than most people in America. Absolutely.

Like 5. Yeah. What is Viva Life 5? You've meant to ask twice now. So V-Clash stands for Live. Viva means live life. And what we're trying to do is help people live their healthiest and wealthiest life spiritually. Spiritially.

He was advocating from women getting money, okay? Oh, yeah. Hey, we leave no bags on the table, okay? So spiritually, physically, financially, mentally, and emotionally. And essentially, what this entails is you get myself and my fellow consultants to help you through webinars, podcasts, affirmation rooms. So that's the mindfulness. Journaling, meditating, and incorporating that exercise, hormone, nutrition, and making sure that you sleep. So it's a community that we've created in order for you to do five things.

pretty much every day and eat those five foods, fruits, vegetables, nuts, grains, things, drinking our water. And if you eat meat, make sure it's clean and high quality. Do you eat meat? You don't eat meat? I do eat meat. I make sure, I try to make sure it's clean and high quality. Now, that might be the 10% that I'm not doing correct all the time. But yeah, I try to make sure that we're eating high quality or minimizing it. You know what I'm saying? I don't eat meat every single day. Do you eat pork at all? I do. I went through the whole phase of not eating pork at all. And I did. I went through the whole, you know, like, it was, it was funny. It was, I went to, I went to college, right? I went to Xavier University in New Orleans,

Louisiana. I went to the HBCU. And I was like, I'm not, I'm not going to eat meat. And I got there, and I had no money, so you had to eat in the cafeteria. And guess what they put out every Friday? Forks, y'all? Bacon. Like, you're just like, all you can eat bacon. I was like, yeah, I'm going to eat some of that. Listen, every time I meet someone over 100, I ask them, do they eat pork? And they say, yes, I ain't met a person yet over 100 that said they don't eat no pork. It's not about the pork, though. Like, the food just isn't what it used to be when they were our age.

Right. So I don't eat a lot of things. Yeah, it's just not the same. I don't eat a lot of pork. If I do eat any, I eat fish, I eat beef, high-quality beef. And then if I eat pork, if I eat a pork chop, right? So, but it's not fried and all that other stuff. But everything in moderation and choose where you're going to be.

Another big thing is alcohol. So minimizing your alcohol is very important through pariuminopause and menopause. You know, people say one or two drinks a day. And I'm like, ooh, that seems like a lot. But I would say minimize it to like one or two drinks a week would be better. And if you're noticing that you're needing to drink every single day, then we're probably need to talk about whether or not there's some alcoholism tendencies that are going on in your life.

but that will alcohol will exacerbate all the symptoms for a lot of people as i get older uh i find that i used to have fun a lot of fun with alcohol but as i get older i just feel like it makes me sick i don't feel good anymore when i drink it i don't it takes me like three days to get better after just having two or three drink so does that have something to do what our body's changing too You're like, I can't probably the liquor, the same. Yep, absolutely, absolutely. And then the thing is, you know, a little bit of red wine is okay, right? Not the whole bottle and not the glass that fills up with the whole bottle.

Yeah, that's true. You see the whole glass. One glass is a whole bottle. No, we're not doing that. But a little bit of red wine. And, you know, I like whiskey. So I might have Sir Davis a couple times in the month. And, you know, that's what I do.

I understand what my 90% is. and understanding that. I also understand little things in my body that tells me, you know what? You're getting out of parameters. So if my legs, my thighs, start, like, touching each other a little bit, I'm like, I'm out of parameters. My thigh, I remember that with five.

My thighs have never not touched. I'm touching. I might be steep. And you just got to know. I can tell when I gain five pounds. Like, I know when I'm, I know my exact weight because I understand my body. And like you said, you travel a lot.

So we retain a lot of water and there's some retention there, right? So it takes a good four to five days to get that water, just to get that water weight off. And you have to be very intentional about that. So, you know, hydrating, sometimes a little apple cider vinegar. Sometimes I'll do a little bit of castor oil, olive oil, you know, just to make sure that I'm keeping my gut clean, healthy is really important. So I do hair.

And what made me bring this conversation to, like want to have this conversation is so my clients are aging with me and a lot of them are in their late 30s early 40s to 50s I don't have that many 20 somethings anymore I have some but not that many and I'm I kept hearing the conversation about perimenopause perimenopause and I had one of my clients particularly say that she was concerned because her vagina is dry now she's like I don't know like I used to be pouring a glass of water out of me and now it's like a Sahara desert like it's tumblewees rolling by when I pull my coochie out. Is there something that

people could, right, is it the Wild Wild West? Is there something because women can do or eat? She's like, I'm drinking water. I drink hell of water. I'm eating fruit. Is there something that we could do or something that women

can take to make sure that they're vagina, they keep their wetness as long as possible when they're going through these changes? Yeah. So, I will say always green leafy vegetables are very important, right? So making sure that you're keeping your vitamin D, your iron levels up, as well as they're going to have what we call adaptogens and nutrients that are going to help you keep that collagen, sometimes some phytoestrogens and

things like that. But then also she can utilize basic things, some olive oil, a little bit of olive oil, dab of olive oil or coconut oil in the area, and the vaginal area could be very helpful. There's also products that kind of like there's a product called replens, but essentially that is a lubricant she can use. But I'll be honest with you. Estrogen based products are like the best thing that you can use if you're okay with using estrogen. Place it in your vagina, small amount in your vagina a couple times a week and it will help you significantly. Important thing though, if you're finding that you're using estrogen, especially you're taking it by mouth or you have it on a patch or you're even using it in your vagina like every single day, then we need to talk about

if you still have a uterus, using the progesterone as well, because we want to protect against that endometrial cancer that we talked about. I started taking maca. You take maca? Yes, good. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Helps with the libido.

Yes, ma'am. Yes. Ashvaganda, maca. Let's go. It's like a Peruvian, like root. It's a plant. Amazing. This is like ginger, like the root.

Yeah, but it comes, and it tastes really good, too. It tastes like a, like a nut. So if you put it like in a smoothie or something like that, it has like a peanut buttery flavor, it's real good. Yeah, and then so I remember when I was having, you know, being at work and everything all the time, when I was breastfeeding my child, Phinegric was another one. And Phinegric is another plant-based supplement that you can use to help you moisturize, right? and it helps you produce milk. So that's another type of thing,

that milk fissile, finagreate, though. So if you work with an integrative specialist or a naturop, they'll be able to give you more options in regards to more plant-based therapies rather than just, you know, estrogen is the only thing you can use. And your organization, is that what you've pushed towards more the holistic, you know, because in the medical industry, they want to push medicine.

It's pharmacia. Okay, that's the real. real witchcraft as far as I'm concerned, right? So they push more, you know, pharmaceutical medication as opposed to the organic. There's really not a lot of doctors out there that, you know, I was just at the doctor recently and I told her I do black seed oil for my blood pressure. And, you know, she immediately went into, well, you know, the studies and all this other, you know, trying to deter you from doing more holistic alternatives. So is that, is that, is that, what you lean more towards as opposed to like traditional medicine?

Right. So I'm about all of it, right? I try to make sure that people know their options, whether they are non-pharmaceutical or pharmaceutical. But I also try to make sure that people understand the risk benefits of each. Because if we're talking about it, you know, many things are plant-based, even if they are FDA approved or through the pharmacy.

Many things are plant-based. If you're compounding something, then guess what? A lot of times you're using some type of plant-based. So I think it's really important. And I'll be honest with you, in traditional medicine, they don't teach this portion of supplements, plant-based medications or therapies. That's really important, you know, the real year. So that's why it's important, like I was saying, you know, look behind the name and say, are you a functional medicine physician? Have you gotten your naturopathic training, whether it's a certification or your actual naturopactic doctor?

And how do you put both of those things together? What are my alternatives besides using what I can get for my pharmacy? So give me non-pharmacy and pharmacy-associated therapies that can be useful for me. I believe in acupuncture, chiropractic where, like, I've done all these things. So I absolutely know that I don't have to be in pain, excuse me, I don't have to take pain medications to resolve my pain. There's other options for it as well. The pain, not my pain. The pain.

So let's not take that in. Let's not take that in our bodies, right? Right. So I feel like I've always had a healthy sexual appetite, but it feels like since I turned 40, like, man, I'm like, who's calling my phone? Who's calling my phone? Like, I'm waking up. I'm like horny, like, all the time.

Is that like something that happens before Perry? Is that like normal or is it? It is. So I remember I told you in Perry Menopause, your hormones are doing this, right? So you're going through this wax and way, and so you're really feeling. And also, I told you. perimenopause in many ways is just like puberty and what happened in puberty you you found yourself you found all of that hotness so that's one of the things that you can actually experience um

and that's why you got to be careful taking certain things like maca right if you take maca you go you know you might elevate or take it to like it helps men's libido too yeah yeah absolutely so i don't through a menopause i shouldn't take no maca right now because i might just have to be Even on the chandelier, if I take some of that shit, I feel like. Yeah, you have to be careful. You have to be careful about it. And so that's why having that personal line conversation and say, okay, what symptoms are you experiencing? And what do you want to temper or what do you want to improve?

I think the biggest thing about, you know, anything that you decide to take, you should be taking it because it's supplementing what is going on in your body. So, like you said, you might not need maca root, but you might need something to help you with, or calm me down. So, you know, that's something that's a different opportunity for you. I will say, somebody asked me, do I have to take hormone replacement therapy, estrogen replacement therapy, progesterone, if you stub a uterus? And I will say that it, the number one killer of women, especially black women, is cardiovascular disease. Point blank. Hypertension, stroke, arrhythmias, right? And so what has been found is that the estrogen, the replacement is reducing the cardiovascular.

vascular disease. Now, you got to do all the other things, too. So if you so choose not to take the replacement, then you really got to do all the other things when we talk about the stress reduction, the exercise, the nutrition, and the sleep. And we really need to get our sleep ladies. I mean, there is nothing wrong with sleeping. I love really down. Okay, I keep staying making t-shirts that say that. I love to lay down. I get my sleep. I don't know if it's always restful, though. I do have hot flashes at night sometimes. I'd be hot as hell. night. Yeah. And so those are the hormonal change we're talking about. But back to your question about the sex, if you're feeling hot and horny, I think it's okay. I mean, I will say when I was in

my early 40, that was the best time of my life, baby. I was like, this is it. I've been missing this. I didn't, you know, I was, I was away from my husband. I was deployed when I was pregnant with my child. So I didn't get that like that like pregnancy sex that everybody was talking about. I didn't get all of that. But babe, babe, when I turned 40, it was on top. This is crazy. It feels like I'm crazy right now. It's great. It's wonderful.

Embrisic. Got me going so crazy right now. Yes, that's. I definitely be horny, man. I don't want it to stop, though. I don't want it to stop. No, I don't want it to stop. No, absolutely not.

Okay. That's why we're having this conversation so that we can prevent it from stopping. My doctor asked me the other day if I still get a period. I'm like, yes. The fuck I do? I'm happy about it. I need to see my shirt. every month.

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are they pregnant that whole thing? But it's still important to track your cycle as you're going through this. And it's not just tracking the period, it's tracking the symptoms associated with the cycle. So remember your cycle is every 21 to 30 days. That's the cycle. The period is just the menstruation. That's just a certain part.

But you know, you're going to feel, you know, more loving and accepting at some part in your cycle. And other times you'd be like, get off of me. You know, I don't want to be bothered. So it's really important to understand that and see how many times you are feeling that through the day. Because then you can start tracking your pari menopausal symptoms into menopause. What conversation should mothers and daughters be having about menopause? that most of us aren't. All of this, because, you know, your children are going to experience your menopause probably.

They're going to notice something in changing faster than you notice the change in yourself. So having these conversations with your boys and girls or however they identify and making sure that you're having these conversations to say, you know, this is the menstrual cycle. This is the mincees. This is what happens when you're in your 20s to 30s is what happens in your 30s, 40s, 40s and 50s. beyond. But in order to have those conversations, we need to be educated about those conversations, which is why I love coming on podcasts. This is why I love having corporate sessions. So we provide six corporate sessions to corporations, organizations to improve women health in their organization. And then we do the individual discussions as well.

So your, so KEO, KOE, right, consultants, is not just for corporations. Individuals can also. Right. So the corporations, so that's why we created Viva SPFME, which is the program that's more like having a group conversation individually based. And that's where you get the podcast, the webinars, and the coaching sessions, right? But the corporate sessions are when we go in, we try to improve health inequities for different health care plans, as well as if we're, like, if I'm at Boeing or something like, or another corporation, then we're working with the women on the top five diseases that are happening. We're educating them so that they have a health plan. Well, what do I talk to me?

my physician or practitioner about so that I can actually get the benefit out of this health care plan instead of just like paying this, you know, $100 to $1,000, $2,000 a month. Yeah. And it's right now it's like open enrollment and I cannot stand it. I don't know what the hell is going on half the time. I know it's hard to figure it out. It's hard to figure it out to do those comparisons. But you know what? Go on chat, GPT, put in your information and say what health plan is best for me. Yeah. And you know, this is so off topic. I don't be fucking with chat GPT like that because I feel like it starts like then tracking you because it's some stuff in there that I'm like, why are you suggesting this to me? This has nothing to do with what I just asked you about. So they have all your conversations and they know you now. They do. So there's a way for you to turn off. There's a way to turn off the learning piece that they can't get those conversations out into like everybody else's learning piece, right? But there's a great person. Her name is Alicia Little.

She teaches AI and she will give you all the tips, tricks, and the tools for it. But I wouldn't be afraid of it. I mean, you know, I'm prior military, right? I retired from the military. Babeay. Chad GBT and got nothing on what the military has already been doing. I already know. So it's just one of those things.

Yeah, it has been out for 30 years. Yeah, so it's just one of those things like either you get ahead of it or it gets ahead of you. Either you are the food or you become the farmer. So just decide where you want to be with that. I understand. Yep. All right. Is there anything that you want to tell our listeners that they need to know about Perry that is imperative that they understand about Perry menopause and menopause before you go? Absolutely. So Perry Menopause, menopause, it's going to happen. So don't be afraid of it happening. Be educated. Understand it. Track your cycles. Track your mencies. Track your symptoms. Talk to your family. We should know our family history. And if you're adopted, you know, try to figure out genetically what's going on, but have these conversations. Do not be afraid of the change. And reach out to your subject matter experts that,

you know, that's what we do. We trained in this. And those subject matter experts don't have to be, you know, older. Everybody, you know, older doesn't know. Everybody that says OBGYN actually doesn't know. But make sure you find out those resources that you can really get that, that conversation that is specific towards you. Do not be afraid of this. It can be the best time of your life as well. Oh, period. So basically reach out to K-O-E medical consulting, okay? Thank you.

So, yeah, Dr. Kelly Omji, D-R-K-E-L-L-Y-O-M-D.com. If you want to join Viva Life or get some consulting services. I'm definitely going to reach out. I want to join. I need to change how I'm living because I love it. I eat bacon. A piece of bacon hate to see me coming. I swear, nah.

Well, I definitely need to make some lifestyle changes. All right, so we have a segment called The Dumbitch Story. I told you a little bit about it. So we're going to have a break. And when we come back, I want you to share a story with us. All right, guys. We are back, and Dr. Kelly has her story. Go ahead.

All righty. So when you first told me this, I was like, I mean, I ain't never been a, right. Right. You know, Virgo? I always got to ask that. What's your sign? I'm a Virgo. Born on September 4th.

That's a damn story. Tell a lie about how you been pimping your whole life. Virgo's, I was like, yeah. Never got played a Virgo. Somehow it kind of twisted to where it's always in their favor. Even though I was on the phone with you, you was crying about it. But, okay, two years later, you act like, didn't happen. You got it.

Go ahead. Brian. Thank you. And I bet at September the 4th, burgo as well. So that's a whole other level. But my story is, I remember when I was in college, right, and I didn't have a car, I didn't have no money, whatever the case may be. And this guy said, you know, I want to take you out. But I wasn't the type of person that was giving out nothing, okay?

So you weren't getting anything if you weren't in a long-term relationship with me. And he, we had set up to have, go on a date, and I'm excited, I'm dressed, ready, the whole thing. I'm looking out the window, you know, waiting for him to call to say he was downstairs so I can come out my dorm room. And the call never came. And I was like, what just happened? And so maybe a 36 hours later, I get a phone call like, oh, hey, you know, some things came up. I was like, I was like, is your mom sick? Right.

I passed away. Did you get in a car accident? He was like, no, no, no. I was like, oh, okay. And he was like, so when you want me to pick you up? I was like, never, click. So that was my story. And I got stood up for a date.

And that never happened again. I just needed to make sure that he wasn't dead somewhere his mama didn't die because if he told me that I might have you know another man other chance so you never even got

you never even found out why he missed the date you ain't care why I don't see these virgil's boys it's not a dumb bitch story now if you would have said that yeah he called again

three weeks and three more weeks later and then I'll go out with him again then that's dumb bitch shit that was that's the dumb bitch shit that was the dumb I've ever been. But, you know, I will tell you why. No, I'll tell you why.

I'll tell you why is because I grew up with, you know, my brothers, my guy brothers, they, I used to listen to my brothers role game on girls all the time. They got shoes, clothes, cars, whatever. And they would be like, watch this. And they said, don't ever be the chicken head. But who's the chicken head? Really? Them witches.

Really? Or the guys who are you. It's the guy who's chicken-haired shit. That's chicken-haired shit. Yeah, that's what they told me. And so I listened. I listened the whole time. And I work in a male-dominated environment, right?

My whole life. I'm a surgeon. I'm a doctor. I was in the Navy for 26 years. I was like, yeah, y'all not getting me. I feel you. No, I'm here for that. But that was, like, not a dump-in-story.

Oh. Brad, that's the best thing. I thought about this all night, too. That one time, that one nigger, like, what? He had to think hard, like, when? Because when I told her, she's like, yeah, I've never been played. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm like, come up with...

Well, I do you have another one, and I'm still, like, as salty about it, but, you know, I invested in a friend's company, and I looked at all the financials and everything like that. I'm still waiting for my money. So if that's another one, that could be another one for you. No, that's one. So be very careful about your investments, and especially if you're trying to help a friend out and see them grow. And, you know, in this day and age when everybody's, like, you know, support.

black businesses and all that other stuff. No, boo, I need to see your financials, your tax reports. I need to see, like, open them books. The word thing. Open the books. So that would be another another DB story, a DVS. Were you dating that person? No, no. We just

have been friends for like over 20 years. It don't count. I don't know. Any time money in blah, somebody owed me some money, I might have been a dumb bitch giving you my money. I might have been. Yeah. Yeah. That was that was a DBS. That's another big DBS. Now, the younger one, that was a young DBS.

This older one, I probably should have, you know, thought a little bit harder and listened to me. Well, you're trying to help, though. So that don't make me good. Well, I don't have them. I'm a Virgo, born on September the 4th. I'm Virgo rising, and I definitely that guy played a couple times in life, man. Definitely. Okay.

I'm about to take the nigga on vacation on Monday. So I might have a dumb bitch story for y'all next week. We'll see. I need to be in the bathroom the whole time Kelly, I haven't joined Viva Life 5 yet Come on through We'll help you not be a D-D-D-S All right

All right One more time, tell everybody where they can find you, where they can follow you on social media, plug all your things Oh, thank you so much So I'm Dr. Kelly-O-M-Z And you can find me www-d-D-R-K-E-L-L-O-MD.com

If you go there, Instagram, Dr. Kelly, OMD, as well as Facebook, Instagram, Viva, Life, SPF me. So just go to the website, click all the little buttons, and you'll find me. All right. Thank you so much, Dr. Kelly. This is fun. And I got a lot of information that I needed. So thank you so, so very much.

Absolutely. I have fun, too. Thanks for bringing out, you know, the Virgo's going to be real serious. So thank you for bringing out the laughter in me as well. Good, good. I can get to the bag. That's one thing about a Virgo, boy. They're going to get to that.

bag yeah all right y'all if you enjoy this episode y'all tune in every thursday on an iheart radio app or wherever the fuck you get excuse me where the f you get your podcast out your co-host a j holiday 2.0 on instagram's kick it tam y'all it's official tam bam on instagram y'all follow me there y'all follow we talk back podcast on instagram y'all i love y'all so much and i appreciate y'all for tuning in every week i can't wait to see you next week come back y'all remember speak now And never hold that nigger Perry. And never stop popping that pee. Do see.

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