The Breakfast Club - Wendy Williams Breaks Silence On The Breakfast Club And Speaks On Her Conservatorship

Episode Date: January 16, 2025

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Especially me. We have Wendy Williams on the line. Good morning Wendy. Hi everybody. Hi Charlemagne. Please Wendy. Wendy's niece Alex is on as well. Alex you're gonna be talking too right? Hey Alex. That's my niece Alex and Charlemagne and I by the way have known each other for like 20 years and running. That is very true. Wow. Listen, Wendy, let's get right to it. I'm going to tell everybody what's going on. Wendy Williams is currently trapped in a conservatorship.

If you don't know what a conservatorship is, when someone is in charge of making decisions on your behalf, but usually because the conservatee is not able to make decisions for themselves. Wendy can make her own decisions. She is not cognitively impaired. She is not incapacitated. She is being taken advantage of. Wendy, tell us what's going on. Well, first of all, to start with,

my niece Alex knows a lot as well, you know, but I am not cognitively impaired. You know what I'm saying? No, but I feel like I am in prison. You understand what I'm saying? I feel like, like, like, like I'm in New York City, right? And by the way, my apartment has been sold. Thank God, you know a while ago But but I you know, I mean this place where the people are in their 90s and their 80s

Then their 70s and even when people are 60 like me. Hey, I'm sexy and gorgeous Please July 18th 1964 honey, but look these people I don't care if they're 50 and 60 they have like look there's something wrong with these people here on this floor. You understand what I'm saying? And I'm not saying something bad I'm just saying that I am with these people. I am clearly not. Look, I have breakfast, lunch, and dinner right here on the bed. All right? I watch TV. I listen to radio. I look at the window.

I talk on the phone. And by the way, Alex, talk about this phone, please. Alex, you've been right here where I am, so you know exactly what you're talking about. You flew from Miami to New York, and you were right here with me. Go ahead. Yeah. And you know, what she's saying is exactly what's happened. She's there in New York in this place, essentially like what some would call a luxury prison, right? This is her room. That's This is her room that's literally her apartment. But the thing about this apartment, and you know this not Wendy because you're there. It's small. She has a bed, a chair, a TV, a bathroom, and she's looking at one window, a building across the street. That's her life. Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. And, and excuse me, through my money, you know, I had this person buy the TV, you know,

the kind of TV I like, a large TV, you understand what I'm saying? Through this person by the TV, you know, the kind of TV I like a large TV You understand what I'm saying through this person because all of my stuff is in storage. You understand what I'm saying? Everything's in storage and by the way that was to sell my apartment. But anyway The person your guardian is that who you're referring to your guardian? Yes. Well, you know Sabrina Morrissey is her name and right now any&E Network, well A&E Network and Lifetime were sued by Sabrina. She claims they exploited you in a vulnerable state. They exploited your condition and I'm putting condition in air quotes. You signed to do that documentary without your consent, but A&E and Lifetime counter sued and said that Sabrina realized the documentary would question the quality of her own guardianship. It actually says in the lawsuit it appears that Morrissey is misusing her position as

a guardian of Williams, the silence criticism of her controversial and failed administration of the guardianship. They even use the words guardianship abuse. What do you think of that? Well, first of all, you know, me and the person that you were just talking about, this guardian person, we watched that four-part thing on TV together. She was the one who wanted to do that.

Do you understand what I'm saying? So I'm watching and writing things down, and she's watching and writing things down, and I saw her. I saw all of that, by the way. And what do I think about being abused? Listen, look this system is broken you know that this system that I'm in you know this system it has falsified a lot you know what I'm saying? They said you're cognitively impaired and

you're incapacitated. How dare you? Do I seem that way? No. You've been calling me five times a day for the last two weeks. No, you don't seem that way. How dare you, excuse me. Who I naturally am is who I naturally am, you know what I'm saying? And my niece knows all about that crap. I mean, oops, I'm sorry. I apologize. To be clear, you can't leave. They won't allow you to leave or have visitors, family members or not. So you can't even leave and take a walk if you wanted to or take a trip or visit family members. They give you a difficult time for that and family members can't visit you? Where I am, okay, you have to get keys to unlock the door, to press the elevator to

go downstairs, first of all. Second of all, these people here, everybody is like nursemaids,ids so to speak you know what I'm saying. They come in and they give your pills you know what I'm saying and then they leave and I'm like I told you not to take I told you don't take them pills. Excuse me I've had two pills all of my life Alex you know what I'm talking about. Yeah I know exactly what you're talking about. There are seven pills. I have no idea what is this pill doing, what is it going to do, listen, I haven't been to a pill person in a matter of long time.

You know what I'm saying? To the point where, excuse me, doctor, can you tell me what this pill is for? Excuse me, doctor, what pill do you use? You understand what I'm saying? Look, for the last three years, I have been caught up in this system. This has been three years I'm caught up in this system. Alex, go talk. Talk Alex. Alex. No, I mean for three years, this is the reality. This has been our lives, but specifically

her life. She can call us, we can't call her. That's been the reality since 2023. That room that she's sitting in, that room that she's sitting in, she's there every day, all hours of the day, every week, every month. She's not getting proper sunlight. I went to New York in October to visit her. And the level of security and the level of questions that there were in terms of who am I, why am I here, what's the purpose, I mean, it was absolutely just horrible. Alex, we sent Lauren LaRosa, who works here on the Breakfast Club, I connected her with Wendy a couple of days ago,

Lauren went up there yesterday and tell them what happened, Lauren. Yeah, I was gonna ask you, Alex, was it like this for you? When I got there the people at the front were very aware that Wendy was there they had me sign in her name was in the system they had to call Sabrina to even see if I could go up there even though Wendy was on the phone with me when I arrived and she let them

know hey this is my guest I want to see her I'll even come down please have someone bring me down because as she said she can't get in the elevator nor leave her room without them unlocking things for her. They were aware of that and everything was fine. And I was waiting, they called Sabrina a couple times and she didn't answer the phone when they called. And then all of a sudden things just like flipped. These like men came out and they're like, who are you?

What are you here for? I told them who I was. I told them I was there to see Wendy. They said, we don't have anyone here by that name. They never said to me. Did you here for? I told them who I was. I told them I was there to see Wendy They said we don't have anyone here by that name. Oh wow. They never said to me Did you believe that? I didn't make did I not make it upstairs? They basically told me I had like I didn't even feel comfortable still being in the lobby the way that I was treated Like it was insane

especially being as though Wendy was on the phone with me when I walked in and she spoke to the concierge herself and said I Want to see this person she is here for me. And then these people are like, she's not even here, what are you talking about? And I'm like, I dealt with your colleagues that had me sign in for her, she's in your system, so you're gonna tell me she's not here? Or did you speak to Sabrina as well?

Because they said that was protocol, you have to call Sabrina first. We don't know Sabrina and we don't know Wendy, she's not here, they said that to me multiple times. And it's scary, it's very scary. Did you feel like she was in a safe space? No, I feel like if you're dealing with me like that and she's on the phone with you telling you like, They said that to me multiple times. Wow. You know, you know the not- And it's scary. It's very scary. Did you feel like she was in a safe space? No, I feel like if you're dealing with me like that and she's on the phone with you

telling you like, this is, you know what I mean, I want to see her, this is my people, God forbid something happens to her and her family needs to get to her. And I asked Wendy that as I was walking out, I'm like, yo man, like I've dealt with, my mom and my grandmother went through medical stuff and a bunch of stuff, right? I can't imagine I've been able to get to them. See my mother, see my dad, see my family member. Right, and I said, if this is how it is when your family comes and Wendy's like, yes. All right, we got more with Wendy Williams

when we come back, don't move. It's the Breakfast Club, good morning. Morning everybody, it's EJNV Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy, we are the Breakfast Club. Lauren LaRosa's here with us this morning. We're still kicking it with Wendy Williams and her niece, Alex. Charlamagne?

You know, denying you visitation is illegal, Wendy. Alex, how do you feel about that as her niece? Well here's the thing when I went to visit her out when and you know this I was able to get up there it was not a problem but here's the thing is that Sabrina you know wasn't communicative and that's her guardian wasn't communicative with me it was almost as if she was waiting for the other shoe to drop so she could have a get you moment when it comes with me, the family, and how we move about things. I mean, for someone that was, you know, is so up in arms in terms of she can't be seen,

there was no security for her. There was no, you know, layout in terms of a plan, how this is supposed to work. I mean, thank God, you know what I mean? I knew pretty what to do, and the trip was fine. But this trip, unfortunately, came off the heels of in July with my aunt's birthday, where I was supposed to go up there and spend her birthday with her. And all of a sudden, there was a lockdown on that.

And not only was there a lockdown on that in terms of me visiting, but with you, Aunt Wendy, with being able to do what you wanna do for your birthday. Go ahead. Yeah, no, for the last out Wendy, with being able to do what you want to do for your birthday. Go ahead. Yeah, no, for the last three years I've spent my birthday by myself, you know what I'm saying. Which you know what I'm saying, that's fine. That's fine just because I would rather spend my birthday by myself than open the door and spend my birthday with these people on this floor.

Like, look, this is what is called emotional abuse. You know what I'm saying? You know, I would call it guardianship abuse as well. And you know, you talked about it a little bit. When you saw the documentary, what did you think when you saw the documentary? Because that's what that got everybody, at least the general public concerned.

What did you think of that? Do you know what? What I thought about that was that's something that, well, first of all, I don't wanna watch that again until I get to Miami, until I get my life. Look, I don't care about watching that. You know what I care about? I care about, look, I don't wanna talk about that

just behind the scenes. I get it, I get scenes. I get it. I get it. I get it. But I do want to ask Alex, you as well. I do want to say Wendy can't say a lot legally. Yes. Correct.

So don't think that when you hear her, don't think she's jumping around and she don't know what you're talking about. She can't say a lot legally. I was going to ask, who's putting out the rumors? Because a couple of months ago, we heard, well, Wendy's having this problem and she's incapacitated. They said she's cognitively's having this problem and she's incapacitated. Like she's cognitively impaired because of alcohol. She's incapacitated.

She's suffering from dementia. Obviously it's not true. So do we know who's sending out those rumors to the press and to the blogs and all that? Do we know? Do we have any ideas? I mean, allegedly from what we're able to see, all of this comes from the Guardian in terms of, Hey, she's incapacitated, all that.

That's, that's allegedly all the Guardian. Yep in terms of hey, she's incapacitated all that that's that's allegedly all the Guardian I'm only just saying allegedly just you know obviously to protect all sides, but of course yeah Because I know it's not true and the sad thing about it It gives her the ability to keep doing this because we all feel like oh if that's the case then yeah But listening to Wendy speak and seeing Wendy a couple of weeks ago at her son's graduation you understand that that's not the truth Listen listen as much as I want my phone, she can't let me have my phone. You know what I'm saying? Like, I can call you, but you can't call me. You understand what I'm saying? I don't even know what kind of phone this is that I have. All I'm saying is that when I call you, you listen. If you don't call me back, you can't call me back.

You understand what I'm saying? I can't sit on the phone and look at things, you know what I'm saying, and scroll through things. I can't do that. I do not have a laptop. You understand? I don't have an iPad. My life is my life is my goddamn life.

You understand? Yes. How does this happen though, Wendy? How does this happen, Alex? How does she end up in a guardianship where, you know, these people have so much control of her life? Cause it's not like she does not have family. She has you, Alex.

She has her son, Kevin Hunter Jr. Like she has family. So how does this happen? I think it's- Well, you know, go ahead, Alex. No, I was gonna say, you know what? My life, you know, and Charlamagne, you know about my life, you know what I'm saying? To get divorced was, as far as I'm concerned, was a 100% fabulous thing.

When I got divorced, look, I had this lawyer, I don't even want to say her beautiful name because just because it was so great. I've gotten a divorce like nobody else has gotten a divorce and I don't want to talk about it but Alex you know about that and Charlamagne, Charlamagne. Did I ever tell you about my divorce? You did and I don't want to know nothing. I don't know anything. Right. That man is trying to ruin me several times already. No, no, no, no. Look, look, it's bigger than that, but look, look, look. When I got divorced,

you're right, I moved to New York, you know what I'm saying, as opposed to in New Jersey, I was solo, just me and my cats, you know what I'm saying? I got these two twin cats who by the way, my cats have been sold to, I had no idea until I talked to that person yesterday. You know what I'm saying? And she told me that my, look, I no longer have my cats. Anyway, look, listen, I'm in New York, I'm solo, I'm still doing my show on TV, right? And I'm still doing my show, but I'm still saying, okay,

because to me, being on TV was, for me, I'm not gonna lie, that was about money. Radio is my route, you understand what I'm saying? To be on radio to me is like God sent to me, and I was doing such great stuff back in the day. You know what I mean? Duh, that's an understatement, what are you talking about? We literally hear, me and Jess sitting here right now,

Jess Hilarious is here, Me and Jess is sitting here right now, Wendy just like really. And I'm trying to figure out how you doing, Wendy. This is Jess Hilarious. How you doing, Alex? What do you want people who are listening to do? Like, do you want us to tweet? Do you want like what, how can we? A lot of us are here because of you. How can we help? Yeah.

All right. All right. Too many people are talking at one time. One person talk. Because my phone is like two. Yes. Yes, ma'am. This is Jess Hilarious. How you doing, Ms. Wendy? I wanted to know what you want people who are listening to do. What do you want us to do? Should we tweet?

Should we get on? Like how do you, what do you want us to do? Also, Alex, what do you want? Well, we've talked about this and that is there's the hashtag free Wendy. There's also a change.org petition as well. And also just just making as much noise as possible, you know, potentially, you know, go fund me, whatever we have to do to make sure that my aunt is in a place where she is living her life in dignity. Wait, excuse me.

For the woman that she is now. That's what we're going to do. Wait, wait, I have $15. I have $15, what does that do? Right. And you know. No, no, no. My money is in prison. That's right, that's right.

And you know, and I just wanna underscore what you were saying, Charlene, as well, and that is this is still a legal situation So yes, there are things that my aunt just can't talk about Yeah, there are things that we as a family can't talk about, you know but I think that the thing that we can talk about is the fact that My aunt sounds great. I've seen her in a very limited capacity, but I've seen her we're talking to her This does not match an incapacitated person. Not as she like that's why we say she's in like a

luxury prison yes because she is being held and she is being punished you know what I mean for whatever reason that other people are coming up with as to why does she ask to be kept in this position we're not asking you know for a whole lot and I'm gonna speak for myself I'm not, for a whole lot. And I'm going to speak for myself. I'm not asking for a whole lot. All I'm saying is just treat the woman with dignity and give her the freedoms that she deserves. We got more with Wendy Williams when we come back, 800-585-1051. What are your thoughts on this guardianship?

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still kicking it with Wendy Williams and her niece Alex Finney. Charlamagne? Let's say what Wendy wants. Wendy wants to be you know released out of this conservatorship but she wants to be in Miami with her family. With you Alex and with you know the rest of the family her son she wants to be in Miami. She's made this known she's you know told everybody she needs to tell. I don't know why it's not happening. I want to say something. No, no, no. Let me just say and then you, no, no, no. Let me just say, and then you can go back, Charlamagne, let me just say about Miami, okay?

You know, it started out with my parents, you know, to Miami, we're all from New Jersey, but near New York. So you listen to Radio New York, you see Radio New York. You know what I'm saying? Asbury Park, New Jersey, okay? That's where I was born, all right? But then, you know, I moved up to Oceans Township and then my parents were the first ones in the family that said, no, we're tired of the cold and the winter and the ice. So they moved and this was years

ago, you know what I'm saying? I was 27 when they moved to Miami. Anyway, the entire family now lives in Miami and look, my son my son my son is doing such a great job as a matter of fact I saw him look he graduated and I was in Miami and that was a few about a month ago yeah Alex talk about the great time that we had and seeing my dad we all went out and had like a party at one point your dad's gonna be 94 next week. I mean next month, right? Listen, 94, that's a whole nother thing.

Like I don't know whether I'm allowed to fly to Miami to say happy birthday to my dad. I wanna get him. Look, look, look. That person that you talk about who's holding me hostage. Sabrina Morrissey, your guardian. We gotta say her name. We gotta put her name out there. Sabrina Morrissey, her guardian. Well, listen, I don't know that she's going to

let me because she already said to see my dad for his birthday. You know, it's gonna be 94. Yeah. And all I can, look, look, look, look, look, please continue to talk, Alex. Go ahead. Hold on, can I say something? Can I say something? You lost your grandmother Alex Wendy you lost your mother. You were in the conservatorship when that happened. Yes. Wow. Well here's the thing.

She was not in the conservatorship when that happened. But that period of time was right before. And to know that she may not be able to come down here for my grandfather's 94th birthday. Every day is not promised. One thing that I know that my aunt wanted and we talked about this at Nausium, she wants to be here for his birthday. And the fact that they are playing games about my grandfather being able to see his daughter and my aunt being able to see her father, I'm sorry.

That is just absolutely sickening. Like I'm exhausted thinking about what if I can't see my dad for his birthday? At 94, the day after that is not promised. It's not promised. I have things from my dad that's in storage and they're little things that I say, you know, I'm not gonna give it to him but I'm gonna sew them and make them so that they look perfect on me. You know

what I'm saying? Yes, I know how to sew. I've known how to sew for years. You know what I'm saying? But I'm saying like I want to give my dad some sort of fragrance, you know I like yeah Alex do you think you think retaliation from the Guardian because this phone call or because of... Yeah. Wow. We've talked about that.

You know, my aunt, even with her wanting to come on, we talked about all scenarios. I said, you know, do this. You're ready for what's on the other side. And as she said, I have to do this. There's nothing else I could do at this point. She's prepared to the fact that her phone might be taken away. What if they take my phone? I won't be able to talk to anybody.

Yeah. And you know, you all what you're hearing now, this is a few minute clip of what we've been dealing with for the last several months and the last two, three years. She can get moved and we may not even know where she know where she is. That was the reality of where she was during the documentary. We weren't permitted to go see her, so this whole documentary aired, nobody's able to call her, nobody's able to see her. You know, the reason why I was doing the stuff with The View and Good Morning America was because she was nowhere to be found. In the meantime, you know...

What are we going to do about that? Listen, here's the weird thing, right? And while you're on The View, listen, here's the weird thing, right? And while they were talking, while you're on the view, right? I got the telephone number, I could call Joy Behar, but my number is with the guardian. I could call my friend, Roseanna Scotto. I could call fat Joe. I could call Alex. My number is not in storage, but my guardian person has my phone. God damn. Alex, let me ask you a question. Besides.

Excuse me, has had it for three years by the way. She's had your phone for three years and she got control of all your bank accounts and everything? Wow, okay, you're right, yeah, yeah, okay, okay. Now Alex. That's what the news reports say. The news reports say she has control

of your bank accounts and everything. Besides the Instagram and social media, who can we write? Do we have an email for Sabrina? Email, her boss. We can email and just have people say yo what's going on, what's up. Can I tell you something? Other than when I was able to purchase like a whole bunch of like I got like nail polish and lipstick and things like that. Otherwise, when, because I'm here in New York, the guardian had somebody get me like nail polish, you know, like the normal things that I like,

like I need a new hairbrush, please, you know, go out and get it for me and bring it back. Oh no, this is not the one that I want, but I guess this is the one that I'm forced to use, you know, and you understand what I'm saying. Yeah, what about eyelashes? What about eyelashes? Look, look, look, look, I'm saying. Yeah. Oh my god. What about eyelashes? What about eyelashes? Look, look, look, look.

I'm the full hair, makeup, and wardrobe person. You know what I'm saying? She said, she was stories up. She saw me out the window. She said, is that a Chanel bag? I said, Wendy, how you see that? Wendy begins Chanel bags for years. I said, ain't nothing incapacitated about that.

She spotted that bag from the floors up, OK? Excuse me, because I have a Chanel with me, but I also have an Hermes with me right here. Who doesn't love labels, darling? Cut it out, you got $15. Cut it out. Listen, Wendy's attorney Linda Ryliski, I think that's how you pronounce her last name, she made a contribution, this is what I heard, she made a contribution to the judge after she was assigned to your case It's really isn't that a conflict of interest

Alex I would say so yes. Yes, absolutely Absolutely. Oh my god. There you have my god. Oh my god And I'd be happy for somebody to prove me wrong and tell me why Wow Give me the facts as to why that's not all right. We got more with Wendy Williams when we come back. Don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning everybody. It's DJ NV Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lauren LaRosa is here with us this morning. We're still kicking it with Wendy Williams and her niece Alex Finney. Lauren. Alex, I have one more question for you. And Wendy, you can chime in too. How does this

affect her health? Because I know we followed her journey with a grave disease and stuff like that. But like being emotionally distressed like this, that can't be good for her just health wise. And that's supposed to be the point of the conservatorship. So what's that like? Yeah, I mean, you know, I mean, imagine you're sitting in a space every single day. You're not getting sunlight. You're you're you're not able to leave to leave your place. You can't see people.

You can't you can't just have free conversation, you know, you do this day in and day out for months and years at a time, emotionally and mentally, that breaks you down in ways that I can't even imagine. I mean, we know that. There have been stories written about that. Can I tell you something? And this is a fact. I asked the other day, I said, listen, you know, my thyroid, you know, I want to go to the person that I've been going to for years. I've got her name, you know what I'm saying, and that is who I want to go to. Again, you know what I'm saying, because thyroid, thyroid I've had for 24 years.

I found out about thyroid, you know, around the time, well, at the time that I was trying to get pregnant and my son is, my son is 24. So that's how I can, you know you know my thyroid anyway um and she told me that that that I wouldn't be going there because my pill for thyroid is perfect the pill that I have for thyroid is perfect I'm like okay so what does that mean look just this is my life people this is my life you know what I'm saying this is my goddamn life the bottom line is my life. You know what I'm saying? This is my goddamn life. The bottom line is my aunt hasn't had, I mean we talked about this yesterday, she hasn't had from what I understand a medical evaluation to see if her rights can be restored. And

it seems as though that instead of this guardian Sabrina, you know, working with her, it seems as if she's made it difficult every which way for my aunt to be able to live any sort of healthy independent life. And you know, it's almost as if she doesn't for my aunt to be able to live any sort of healthy, independent life. And you know, it's almost as if she doesn't want my aunt to show that she's healthy and independent. Because as we know about these guardianships, and as my aunt has said, the system's broken, because the longer she's under this guardianship, the longer they have the keys to her life for her personal, her financial, her emotional, everything, you know, and so that's the reality of the guardianship system. It's overloaded.

There's a reason why they're looking at the New York guardianship system right now. There's a reason why lawmakers are calling on state leaders to reform this system. It's because it's broken. And it's a shame that we're in this place. I know I'm getting really emotionally charged right now but this is how sickening it is and how tired I am

of having to talk about this and have these conversations with my aunt. You know, because it's not just her, you know, and thank God that we have platforms like this that we can go on and we can we can talk about this. But there is a lack of scrutiny across the board. We know there's a lack of funding. There are too few guardians for the amount of people under this system, you know, and as a result, a lot of things go unchecked, there's a lot of neglect,

as well as, obviously, we know as well financial exploitation of some of the most vulnerable people. That's the reality. Those are facts. It's written in print. And my aunt is one of those people, one of the over what 28,000 people under guardianship in New York, she's one of those people that's under this situation. So yes, this is about her. Yes, we want her back. Yes, we want her freed. Yes, we want her to live with dignity

and be able to move on with her life. But this, her story is a fight that many other people are going through as well, and they don't have the resources. So imagine where that they stand at this point. And that's why I'm so passionate about this, you know, you know, you want to be enough. Alex, you bought up something that you know, they bought up in the A&E lawsuit.

It said the documentarians have not spoken positively about Williams guardianship. There's a bill in the New York Legislature right now that's designed to curve guardian abuse and prevent guardians from restricting access to family members. That's what the executive producer Mark Ford told Vulture in February 2024. I'm not sure where that bill stands, but this is a perfect illustration of a family that wants to be in touch, wants to be involved, but for whatever reason, can't. So that's really the purpose of this phone call, just to let everybody know that Wendy Williams is currently trapped in a conservatorship and she's right. And you know, she's not cognitively impaired.

She's not incapacitated. She's just being taken advantage of. No, and also remember, I feel like I'm in prison. I am definitely isolated, you know what I'm saying? You know, and to talk to these people who, like I said, who live here, you know, that is not my cup of tea. Do you understand what I'm saying? I mean, you know, they're good people, but I keep the door closed. I

watch TV, you know, to say I listen to radio, you know, and I watch the window, you know, and I sit here like my as my life goes by. You understand what I'm saying? Yes. And you know what, Lauren, Lauren, I want to say something because I did hear yesterday about you going and it was like the whole mess which you just explained. Yes. That happened. And the and the alarm bells started ringing. That's when my aunt was told, oh, and I'm paraphrasing here but but you know, your cats chit chat in my way.

And anybody that's a Wendy fan knows how much my aunt loves chit chat in my way. Yeah, I gave those cats away. You don't have her anymore. Oh my god. Yeah. Your dad's birthday. Your dad's birthday. That's up in the air. You're gonna have to talk with Linda. Me and Wendy talked about those cats the whole way there. Yes. Oh my god. It's like she's getting punished. We're just trying to be a normal person. society and to live exactly. So Alex, they took her cats? Yes.

So that's what she told me yesterday. Right Aunt Wen? Yes, I had no idea that they actually took my cats. You know what I'm saying? You know, I wanted my cats with me. You understand what I'm saying? And I actually that's my friend Lauren. I was saying Lauren, you know what I'm saying? And chatting in my way my twin cats they're gone. So getting rid of the cats won't let you possibly see your father next month for his 94th birthday.

She can't leave. No don't say I won't see her. I said possibly. I said possibly. What I'm getting at is all of this feels like some sort of retaliation because of what they've been seeing the last couple of weeks. That's what I'm getting at. Oh my god, oh my god, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God.

Yeah. That's what this is. DJ Envy by the way, hi DJ Envy. Hey Wendy. Wendy, I told Envy that you thought he was gay because you saw him on TV with Tammy Roman busting his boy's ass. Look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look.

Leave me alone DJ Envy. I remember that you came to me when I was doing radio and you weren't even into radio at that point. Yeah, but you know what? You and Charla made good things that you people are doing. You know what I'm saying? Good for you, thanks to people like me. If it wasn't for you, Wendy,

we wouldn't be doing the things that we're doing now. So we appreciate all that you have done and all the trials and tribulations. Like, we are on your shoulders. Like, if it wasn't for you, we wouldn't be here. So thank you so much. Thank you for having big shoulders, Wendy. Absolutely. What?

Excuse me. Excuse me. You know what? And thank you for that. Thank you for that. Anyway, continue to talk, Alex. Hold on. I want to say this, Alex. I think we've said enough.

I just want, this is a fuse. This is a fuse that I want to delight so I know it'll explode and then we'll know what to do next after this. And I want everybody that's in that system that Wendy is currently in, I want them to know that we know what's going on. You know what I mean? So she's not alone out here. You can't just isolate Wendy Williams and make her disappear.

That's not going to happen. Yeah. The last thing I want to see, Shermie, just what you were saying is anybody that knows my aunt, my aunt has always been a unique personality, you know, that is who she is, how she's talking now and how it's, you know, she goes from one topic to the next is equal spin right back to the other topic That's right. Oh, we know her We know people that don't know her maybe you're looking and you're like, huh? If you know her which she's known very widely, you know, that's who she is

We don't try to twist who she is as if oh there's something wrong with her No, no, no, no, no, you just don't know her the way we do and not even that Alex all the stuff that she's been saying For years is coming to fruition now. Let's talk about that to prove that she's not cognitively impaired. All that stuff she's been talking for years. Wendy, you got fired from Hot 97 years ago because of Diddy. All these years later to see where Diddy currently is, what do you feel about that situation?

Hey, hey, hey, when I watch TMZ and I see the stuff that goes on, I'm like, oh my gosh, and then all of a sudden I see me on TMZ, you know what I'm saying? It's really weird seeing me on TV when I'm caught in this position, you know what I'm saying? The other day I was watching Cookout and there I am in the first opening scene, I was like, oh my gosh, season one, episode 13, there I am on Martin, you know what I'm saying? And as far as Diddy, Diddy will go to prison for life people You don't know things that I do about Diddy back in the day and you want to know what it's about time people It is about time Diddy done Spoken there you have it. That's right.

This is just the first step of Minnie. Alex, love you. Wendy, love you. Yes. Yeah, Alex, keep fighting the good fight. I know it's just a period. Emotional right now. I was a very crying.

Jessi Lyris is crying. Yes. And please, to her guardianship and everybody else, y'all cannot hide Wendy. Do not hear this phone call and see this all in the news and think you're going to take away her phone and you're going to isolate her. No. We know the address where she at that's right and we hope that she's we hope to see her next month in Miami with her father celebrating his 94th birthday and her family do it right we hope that she gets

to live in Miami as well that's right and start a podcast on the black effect podcast. Wendy, Alex, thank you so much. We love you. I love you. Bye everybody. Bye Wendy. Hey Wendy, Wendy. Yes? Come on, you know what you got. You can't just end with we love you. You know what you got to end with? How you doing? Shout it out. Thank you so much. Bye y'all. It's the Breakfast Club, good morning. Catch Jon Stewart back in action on The Daily Show and In Your Ears with The Daily Show Ears Edition podcast.

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