The Breakfast Club - Westside Boogie On Healing Journeys, Eminem Connection, "More Black Superheroes" + More

Episode Date: September 8, 2022

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Yep, it's the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club. Charlamagne Tha God, Angela Yee, Envy had to step out, but we got a special guest in the building, man. His album came out in June. It's called More Black Superheroes, West Side Boogie. Yes, sir. I'm finally here, man. I've been wanting to come here forever.

Word. It's also a scary place. Why? Because everybody's scared of you. With no reason. But it felt like you got better. It felt like you got way better. You got better.

So I appreciate that. I'm glad I came during these times. You young? How old are you, boogie? I just turned 33. Oh, wow. Okay, okay, okay. I got a whole 13-year-old, so I really feel 70.

I ain't going to lie. Dang, you got a 14-year-old. I got a teenager. It's the most irritating age in the world. Girl or boy? Yeah, wow. Okay, okay, okay. I got a whole 13-year-old, so I really feel 70. I ain't going to lie. Dang, you got a 14-year-old. I got a teenager. It's the most irritating age in the world. Girl or boy? Yeah, boy. Oh, see, I got a little girl. I think girls are worse when they're 10.

Nah, that seems scary. Boys are just irritating because it's like a reflection of myself. So it's like I be wanting to fire him up. And he taller than me right now, too, so I got to work out a little bit. He taller than you? His mom must be tall. Nah, I don't know how he ended up taller than me. He's just only this much taller than me right now.

Okay, okay, okay. But he's still growing. Exactly. And he's a basketball player, so. You in here smelling like the finest of... Weed. I smoke a lot of weed. That's what they were saying on the airport when I got there, too.

And that type of stuff irritates me when you're just walking by somebody. It smells like weed. Did you fly... You brought your own in? Yeah. I just took it on the plane. Yeah, that's good because Cali and it's legal in New York, so that makes sense. You feel me?

Brought me a little ounce. I'm just snitching on myself. What, you don't like New York weed? Nah, it's too expensive. Y'all irritate me with y'all weed. I don't understand. That's because we don't have the dispensaries and access, I think, yet. All right, I respect it.

I don't got to deal with that, you know? They got them in Jersey. Jersey got the dispensaries. If you got a medicinal card, you can go to Jersey. They're doing Cali. They've been doing that. Yeah, I don't need a card. I just called a homie in Cali, you know what I'm saying?

Now, since you do have a son, let's talk about More Black Superheroes, the album that you have out. You know, it came out a couple of months ago, right? Over the summer of June? Yep, two months ago. Damn, that was fast. Yep. That's crazy. Yeah, so how was the process making this album?

I know you had said previously that you went to therapy for like three years and it made it a little difficult to write at certain points. Yeah, it was tough just because the accountability factor that that came with therapy, usually because I just got out of relationship. It was like my first like healthy relationship. I feel like I was there like three years. All my other relationships I feel like was based on trauma bonding. But this was like my first time I had like a healthy relationship. It felt like so when I lost her, I was still happy because I was like, oh, I'm going to make a fire album because like I can make a heartbreak album. You know what I'm saying? Then I'm in therapy and my therapist making me address stuff and make me hold myself accountable.

So I couldn't I feel like I couldn't approach music the same. It was hard to make certain songs. And yeah, it took a while to even figure out what I wanted to talk about now when you talk about your previous relationships before that what do you mean by trauma bonding like what was like just my baby like my baby mama um I think we were just two hurt people that just was fighting just so we can make up the making up part was the best part for me because like it's makeup sex you know what I'm saying it's passionate some people feel like fighting means you really care too like when you guys argue passionately and i've had people tell me like if you didn't feel like you want to kill the person that you're not yeah and that's i hear that a lot in my community too and i get it though because

you know hate and love they kind of live in the same house you know i'm saying but yeah i don't know i don't want to be in that vibe no more. Trauma bonding is so real. And we have trauma bonds not even just with the opposite sex. Growing up in the hood and you start hustling or you're in a gang or whatever. Sometimes a lot of that is trauma bonding too. You're all bonding over the wrong shit. Trauma bonding with the homies. I did that. That's crazy.

I never thought about that until right now. Let's smoke some weed and go do a drive-by. You right. Bring us closer together. That's really the most trauma bonding. I guess it's with my homies, so yeah. On LOLSMH2, man, you say one of the greatest lines I've ever heard in reference to folks trying to heal.

Well, you don't say it, but the woman on the song says it. She says, there ain't no way you're still a bitch-ass nigga and you be in therapy. Yo, I was just thinking about that yesterday, how when I mess up now, I feel like it's heavier to the people around me because they just expect me to be perfect because I've been bragging about therapy. They're like, oh, nigga, you ain't therapy not working for him. And I'm just like growing is a forever thing. And that's the frustrating part because sometimes my growing gets stagnant.

Sometimes I take leaps forward. Sometimes I backslide. And that's all the process of it. I just think therapy just made me more aware of it. She gave me the tools. My therapist gave me the tools, but it's still a once-a-week thing. I can't afford therapy every day,

so you know what I'm saying? I go once a week, too, and that's the beauty of therapy as well, right? It teaches you you don't have to be perfect. Exactly. What made you decide to go? I was crying over my ex. I thought I just needed therapy.

Also, shout-out to my management company, Love Renaissance. Summer first got therapy. They got therapy for her as management company, Love Renaissance. Summer first got therapy. They got therapy for her as like a label. Summer Walken? Uh-huh. Okay. That's what my label made her, whatever you want to call it.

But she got therapy first because she was going through it with the media. You know what I'm saying? So my management got her a therapist. Wow. And they thought it would be a good idea if they got all the artist therapists. What's the name of that label? Love Renaissance. Everybody needs to sign the Love Renaissance.

Yes. They got all the artist therapy. Even's the name of that label? Love Renaissance. Everybody need to sign to Love Renaissance. They got all the artist therapy, even they have therapy. And we do group therapy. They do group therapy at the label heads. They're amazing. Everybody need to sign to Love Renaissance. Were you resistant to it at first? Duh, yeah. In the nigga world, can I say nigga right now? In the nigga world, it's

looked at as crazy. That's the stigma around it. What do I need to go talk to somebody I don't know for when I can just talk to the homies or go smoke or do something like that? More trauma bonding. Exactly. And even some days, I still lie to my therapist some days. You know what I'm saying? Some days I'll be like, I'm busy today because it's irritating.

Growing sometimes is uncomfortable, but I know that's where the growth comes. What was your first session like? She tried to just pull up on me in the studio like you know just sit around and be a homie which i appreciate but i still like saw through it i knew what she was doing so it was a lot of resistance at first it i don't think we got a breakthrough to like maybe after the first three months did you pass your therapist to blunt i tried to no after that first time in person it was all zoom okay so i couldn't pass it a blunt to the computer so what happened in that last relationship that had you so upset?

Why did you guys break up? It was a lot. I don't think I was a great boyfriend at the time. I don't like bragging about the Zodiac stuff, but I'm a Virgo. And they say we expect perfection out of everybody. So your birthday just passed? Yeah, it was like a couple days ago. I just had a party two nights ago. Virgo men are some lying ass niggas.

I was being a thot. You think so are some lying ass niggas. I was being a thot. You think so? Sometimes, bro. And we manipulative. It is crazy because we feel like we're so smart and we try to use it to manipulate people. That is exactly it. I think on my last relationship. What was she?

What sign was she? Taurus. Okay. Oh, I hate it. Yeah, exactly. She an artist as well, though. And I think my career got so consuming for her not that I told

like made her be consumed by me I just think it just happened and she started to resent me and feel like she couldn't be the artist she wanted to be

and yeah so I think we had an argument over the trash and she was like we're breaking up and I was like oh she been checked out she been wanting to

get away you know what I'm saying so I respect it she dating one of the homies now and it's irritating but tough, tough seeing that around the city.

But that's still your homie though? No, I ain't talk to him. He act like I did something wrong to him, but. Damn. That's how I like it. And you got all these thoughts in your head.

You probably like, you probably been messing around. No, exactly. And that's the tough part, but. Oh my gosh, that's awful.

Except, you're not making this better. I'm sorry. Accepting what's not in my control is the stuff I'm learning to deal with because that's always hard. I feel like I always got to control the situation. What accountability did you take? Because I know you said it's about accountability too.

Just not speaking up on stuff I wanted. Just like instead of me just holding so much stuff in and like putting so much pressure on her, I could have just spoke on it. We could have got through it. And I think supporting her more. And like I was making it seem like just because supporting her more and like i i was making a scene like just because i was paying for stuff i was being a great boyfriend like and i know it was more than that i needed to support her and the stuff she cared about and really paid attention pay attention to the details and i don't think i was doing that so is this song nonchalant about

that relationship where you just act like i'm not calling you you uh nonchalant is really more so about me moving around acting like a fuck nigga and being confused on why she treated me like a fuck nigga you know i'm saying it's just like me bragging about how i'm finna take her piece and like why you not answering the phone or just me being irritated by girls who post on instagram and don't text me back because i literally hate that but now you were being a thot for your birthday what is being a thot to you i thought i could be bill bellamy like how to be a player and like invite all my shawty's to one place and it just did not work out and I thought I was being so clean. It's not like I was hugging

up on anybody, but I guess girls just could read through stuff. Especially if they think they're dating you and you get invited, you think you the one. He invited me to his birthday party, so it's special. And that's the thing, even though I'll be honest with these girls, I think if I still move a certain way,

I still think I'm the bad person. Because I be telling them I'm not ready to be in a relationship. But me knowing that they not really understanding what I'm saying and still choosing to move forward with them, I'm still in the wrong. So I invited all them there. And then the next day I got texts like, you too old to be moving like this. They right. Back to the therapy stuff.

Therapy's not doing nothing for you. You look lame. I'm losing all respect for you. And ain't no way you still a bitch ass nigga hey question you talked about your first breakthrough in therapy right do you feel like sharing what that was i'll tell you if you tell me uh yeah it was about uh my mom it was either about my mom or my dad. I know lately I realized I got a lot of frustration towards my mom just because I feel like she never gave me a space to be emotional. Your mom?

Wow, I hear that with dads a lot. I feel like my dad wasn't around. I think my mom had just raised me to be tough because she didn't want me to go out in the world and get punked, you know what I'm saying, which I get. But I think it should have been a balance because now when I get older and somebody tells me they love me or want to have emotional conversations, I shut down. It's, like, weird to me. I don't like when people get too touchy-feely. I don't like when people give me compliments.

It all makes me glitch out. And I spoke about it in an interview before I talked to my mom about it, and then she saw it, and, you know, she got frustrated, but I'm still glad I did it because then we had the conversation about it after but that breakthrough happened me understanding like oh i moved these ways in these relationships because of this relationship in my past with my mom so what did she say did that change things for you guys um she said sorry um and that we're gonna work on it um but it's still hard my brain so conditioned now and I'm still trying to work on that like I said I'm aware of it but that don't necessarily mean the

change gonna happen immediately so yeah my first breakthrough was realizing that I had daddy issues you know what I mean and you addressed that on a Anthony but in wars and perversity how difficult was it to confront that topic? Oh, man, that one is tough. And that one is, because I've been saying it don't bother me forever. I've been like, my daddy ain't been in my life. I got this far without him. I don't need him.

But then I'm like, oh, it's really affecting me. Like my abandonment issues and everything behind it. It's like, I got to have a conversation with my dad now. I got to figure out how to let this hate go that I didn't even know I had. like this unaddressed trauma is so irritating so what was easier writing that song or actually I mean I guess you never had the convo with your pops I still ain't talked to my dad um so writing the song was easier and it's like I've like in the in the past years I've reached out I'd be like saying yo but then when he said all right can you call me I just shut down

and we don't end up having a conversation because it's just like I can never see myself walking out of my son's life and I know that's why I overcompensate now with my kid and I irritate him I'll be hugging on him loving him so much because my daddy never gave me none of that and I just don't understand it never makes sense to me he blamed my mama and say like your mama made it hard I tried to come around but it's just like my baby mama could not stop me from seeing my kid. Yeah, I will say, you know, a lot of the hate that I started to have for my dad after therapy, once I had a conversation with him

and realized he was just a man dealing with his own shit, like, he went to therapy two or three times a week. He was on 10 to 12 different medications. He tried to commit suicide. When I heard that, it humanized it in a real way for me. So I started giving him grace. You're right. A lot of grace.

That's what my therapist was saying about my mom when I was explaining my frustrations about her. And she was like, you don't understand how hard it is to be a single black mom. Because I was mad. I feel like my mama didn't chase her dreams. And she taught me how to settle. But then my therapist was like, that's a win right there. Her being able to raise you. And you need to look at how great that was.

And I downplayed that. And, like, my mom is a survivor. She's strong as hell. So, yeah. I think we forget that our parents had lives before us. Exactly. Exactly. And it goes so far back.

Like, the way my mom moving relationships come from my grandma, then it's like, you know, it's just a cycle. And we the first generation that has the luxury of actually healing. They were scratching and surviving, you know what I mean? That's why I said it's the hill generation. I see all my friends as like great dads now. They all in their kids' life. Therapy is a conversation. Whether people like just using it to look cool, I don't even care

just because, like, the message out there now, you know what I'm saying? And sometimes you have to think you wouldn't even be who you are or where you are if it wasn't for how you were raised and the way that things happen yeah that's true i honestly am still scared to heal all the way because as a rapper i think you look weak you know i'm saying i don't think i could thrive as a rapper being healed all the way and i'm scared of that i don't know i'm not saying i'm right but it's just like you know the world glorify ignorance and it's just like you got to play the game it feel like sometimes and can anyone ever heal all the way no you're right healing is a constant journey it's not a destination you're right but it's just like positive me being like i'm scared to just become

the positive nigga it's like you know i'm saying look how the world started demonizing chance for like being happy and it's like boy he can't be happy yeah we had that conversation last time Chance was here I'm like damn a man can't love his wife like they hating on Chance cause he actually loves his wife so in the meantime Big Sue bombed in Piru you know what I'm saying I saw when you told Rolling Stone that you

probably like 5% healed yeah when talking about your growth but now her saying it's never gonna be I'm never gonna be healed I don't think I'm no percent. I think I'm just learning more as I grow. So that's all it is. I'm just saying, like, it make it hard because I'm aware of so much stuff now, but I still dive into so much ignorance shit.

Like, I wake up in the morning, I turn on Wack 100 Clubhouse argument videos. And that's how I start my day. And then I'll be having girls spend the night, and they're like, why are you waking up on this type of time and I'm like I don't know I'm like addicted to to like this nonsense

and this chaos well just find the balance wake up in the morning you know what I mean say your prayers you know I go to my affirmation books I got like three

affirmation books I read and I don't go to the internet until I get here which is six in the morning so it's just like it's nothing wrong with doing it just don't you know don't let that start your day.

Yeah, meditation actually been helping me because I deal with a lot of anxiety. Like every time I got a post on Instagram or something like that, it's just hard. It's just hard to turn my brain off. And I know meditation is supposed to be about like accepting the thoughts for what it is and letting them pass and staying present. But I be overthinking everything. I'm like, nigga, what I'm finna do tomorrow? Like why they do me like this two weeks ago? And it's just like, it's hard.

But you're human. I know, man. It's human. That's why I love that line. It ain't no way you still a bitch ass nigga. You being a therapist. Yeah, I don't mean it like this. That's not even about you.

It's valid, though. I almost want to write that down and just look at it a lot. Like, wow. Because that's a very valid line. I'm glad you appreciate it man well being that this is your first time here and we haven't had a chance to speak to you before let's talk a little bit about your journey and even like i know you signed to endoscope and then how did you and eminem link up that was random as shit i don't know uh all right so yeah i started singing off

in church i'm just fast forward i was singing in church in compton. Hold on, man. Hold on. I don't know why that's not a word. You were singing in church in Compton? I got to talk about 30 years of life. You know what I'm saying? My mama sent me to this church in Compton. I was getting in trouble. She sent me with her homegirl to go to church. She didn't want to come with me.

You know what I'm saying? You call it the buyer instead of the choir? No. You know what I'm saying? That's funny as hell. If a nigga did that, I'd be so mad. But, yeah, I was doing gospel raps at first then it was these little kids i was going to the church who was gang members already and i thought they was the coolest niggas in the world so i became a follower

uh just started following them after church gospel raps wasn't a thing no more started doing regular raps uh just started rapping around the city got my baby mama pregnant at 19 went to long beach city college finessed them for a loan bought studio equipment um was recording in my mama room for about four years this white man hit me on twitter in the hood we think any white person hit us we made it well that's what i thought at the time uh he became my manager at the time he came from an edm background he was working with like skrillex Interscope ended up calling me. Wow. Yeah.

I know you're going through it really quickly. But yeah, I dropped a song called Oh My. Interscope ended up calling me. I leveraged them. Like, you know, you're supposed to do all the labels. But I was going to end up going back to Interscope anyway. Signed with them. Then they put me on the shelf because my manager at the time,

me and him had hit a ceiling. And they just was ignoring my manager. It was scandalous but um uh then LVRN came around they had got an imprint at uh Interscope and my A&R at the time was like hey man I got this this company I think you should work with um they black and I think y'all y'all could vibe together at the same time like two weeks before that he had called me and say hey man i don't know how paul rosenberg found your music but he's fucking with you and he want to fly you to detroit so at the same time i got new management and eminem took over my contract and like out of nowhere it's not like i don't know how he found me for real for real they said the rihanna post maybe was a thing

because rihanna did post me like one of them years but were you hesitant as far as Shady or were you like immediately? Because, you know, sometimes people have an issue signing to another artist. No, I wasn't hesitant because I was already on the shelf. You know what I'm saying? And I was just trying to change my situation. I was thirsty also. And it's not like I was signing a new deal. He just took over my original contract.

So what did Eminem say when you got there? What's crazy? He don't really talk a lot we i think we both deal with social anxiety i'm not even sure i'm supposed to say that but um yeah he just he what was dope he told me the songs he liked was like my album cuts and he was explaining me those lyrics and that's what made me that's what made me trust his judgment because he wasn't just talking to me about the viral song so we had that conversation i went home and then he just gave me the freedom to create so that's why I appreciate him because he gave me advice when I need it but he don't like overstep my creative process do you think about making songs that are going to be more mainstream do you plan or do you just say I just

make what I feel like making uh I think this time around uh I made a more conscious effort to at least try to touch like faster bpms I think I get so, I made a more conscious effort to at least try to touch faster BPMs. I think I get so comfortable making slow heartbreak music, and I think that becomes selfish to my team. Because, like, nigga, we not getting no bag off these slow ass songs. You know what I'm saying? So I think it's about pushing myself, but also not sacrificing my integrity. You know what I'm saying? Because I want to be a team player.

I want to make a hit. It's not like I'm not in it to make great songs. There's a lot you just I want to make a hit. It's not like I'm not in it to make great songs. So, yeah. There's a lot you just talked about that I'm lying. There's only one thing I want to unpack because it's so fantastic. Most people become gang in the street. You became gang in the church. Yeah, exactly.

It's a crazy thing. It's playing backfire. How do you become gang in the church? Because I'm sitting here thinking if the gang members were coming to church, they clearly were searching For something else No we wasn't We was going Because all our parents

Made us go Yeah you had to And that's the thing And that's the thing In LA Gangs and church Is tied So like

Close together Like we all was at church Growing up Every hood Had a church They went to You know what I'm saying So yeah

Being a little follower So you was looking forward To church Loved it I was really only going For the girls And then see the homies from the hood. So when you got jumped in, did you ask for God?

Like, oh, God, this hurts. I ain't even going to lie. It was one of them things where I just was over there since I was 13. And they just accepted me. I probably fought my cousin once. He was like, oh, you from the hood now. Niggas didn't jump me. I didn't have to deal with that.

I didn't have to deal with it. And that's what i'm saying it's like it's people from my neighborhood who had to like grow who actually was born there and had to and had no choice but to be from there i walked my happy ass over there and i didn't have to and that's like a message i'll be telling my kid i went through my kid phone one time and he was saying cut his friends and that shit broke my heart because like I had never prepared him for that type of conversation before that. I just tried to hide the reason I started gangbanging. Forgetting that I'm a rapper. He's still going to see me throwing up my hood in these songs.

And I should have been had this conversation with him because like, yeah. And so he's silver. He ain't went through no struggle. He don't have no reason to gangbang. But that's just because the world found him before I had the conversation with him. And, you know, it's tempting in L.A. Everybody wants to gangbang in L.A. because it look cool. You know what I'm saying? So that conversation

broke my heart, especially he wanted to be a crip and I'm a whole blood. You know what I'm saying? Especially because of that. You wanted to be a crip? Why does he want to be a crip? Snoop, maybe? I don't know. Who knows, man. Being in a gang, would you consider that a generational curse? Dang, it is. I don't know. Who knows, man? Being in a gang, would you consider that a generational curse?

Dang, it is. I wouldn't just stop. I know gang banging started with a sense of us protecting our community, policing it from the police or outside entities and stuff like that. But now, we just poison it. I'm not going to lie. But it is a sense of brotherhood, a sense of community that we don't got. But at the end of the day, we can't act like it's a good thing brotherhood a sense of community that we don't got but at the end of

the day we can't act like it's a good thing you know i'm saying and so it is a curse to me what do you think when you see people like in new york emulating it or in other cities where that's not really the culture um they grew up on yeah that just show you the power of la gangbanging and that should be tripping me out too when I go other places and see it, too. But they still real ones. It's not like they punks. You go out here, and they still, like, really with the shit, and they still, like, living by that code.

But I just think... Until they get hit with the Rico. Yeah, Rico's is crazy. That's why I'm not saying my hood on no more songs. I'm cool. What do you think about that, about them using lyrics against artists? We were just talking about that.

I think it's unfortunate. I think we got to be mindful, though, because, like, I think black— I was telling the homie earlier, I think black people got this thing. We feel like if other black people are not on the side of crime, then they punks. Like, we'd be mad at that mayor in Atlanta or whatever she is, the governor, because she's doing her job. But it's just like, just because she's standing on the opposite side of you don't mean she wrong, because I get it.

And y'all need to be more mindful of the stuff y'all saying. I get what y'all doing in these streets, but why say it on the song? You know what I'm saying? I agree with you, and I realized years ago that most people's perception of real or their definition of real is usually something to do with some criminality. And it's crazy, and it's like, we're conditioned by the street code. Even people that got nothing to do with the street be. And it's crazy. And it's like, we conditioned by the street code. Even like people that got nothing to do

with the street be conditioned by it. Describe the title, More Black Superheroes. Because you're not talking about comic books. No, I'm not. Even off in a makeup book.

But it's a layered title for me. It's about addressing the fact that I'm a survivor. I think as black men, we go outside in the world and we deal with so much stuff and we just take it to the chin because we just take it as a norm. And I wanted to take this moment to give myself credit that I made it through these situations.

That it's not normal to stuff we go through. Also, it's about me addressing all the sides of myself. Like I got a vulnerable side. I got an emotional side. I got all these different sides that I feel like combine to make the greatest version of myself. And like the superhero part, that's like being extra. But I just wanted to give myself the greatest form of credit by calling myself a superhero.

And also to show my kid, you know what I'm saying, that a superhero he could touch, not one that's just on TV. It was really for my kid, too. Does your son realize how famous you are? Yeah, but he still treat me like the corny dad. His friends treat me more famous than he do. I don't know if he's

just trying to hide it and not make me feel cool, but I'm just dad to him. You know what I'm saying? But every time we go somewhere, people taking pictures and he get irritated and so there's that.

But now he a little TikTok famous kid so we go out and he got a little TikTok people saying, oh, that's DJ from TikTok and I think that shit weird because his TikTok is him doing little freaky faces like singing videos you know these little light-skinned faces kids be doing so now on the song stuck you talk about how you've been

through hell and you can't hide it so when you are as open about these issues like you were on this project does it make it harder or easier to create? It's easy to create. It's hard to be outside in the world. I think I'd be so drained emotionally from being in the studio and being vulnerable. It's hard to be vulnerable in person. And that's the hard part when people want to have deep conversations with me in person and I start shutting down.

And I'm like, I did this in the studio. Don't mean I could do this really all the time in person. But the creating part is that's my therapy because I and I'm like, I did this in the studio. Don't mean I could do this really all the time in person, but they're creating part is that's my therapy. Cause I'll be so like confined when I'm not in the studio, it's finally my release. So it's not really hard to create at all ever. And people probably feel like they can relate to you. You know what I mean? Cause like, Oh, he's dealing with the same things that I'm dealing with. Just go listen to the song.

We got to talk about it all the time when I see you. How receptive are you to feedback from your team i saw you had said that when you were making this album they were like okay this is starting to sound too much alike uh the songs that you're doing you got to switch it up is that something that you were like people get very defensive about their own music so how is that for you i'm super sensitive about my art but I'm not sensitive to the people I trust. My producers, I'm with them every day, so I trust their gut, but they're also with me every day, so I know we all could get complacent with each other. But my manager, Justice, he's the most

evil nigga in the world. He tells me when stuff's bad, he tells me when it sucks, and I appreciate him so much for that because it always pushes me. Sometimes I gotta be like, nigga, you from Atlanta, you just got a different ear than me. But a lot of times, he right, Sometimes I gotta be like, nigga, you from Atlanta. You just got a different ear than me. But, you know, a lot of times he right and I gotta push myself. So I don't be tripping. It's when other people who I feel like don't really understand it or understand the culture, got stuff to say, that's when I get irritated. But it

is what it is. White people. There it is. Do you communicate with Eminem about your music? Like, do you send him stuff? Yeah, I tell him and he always tell me what he think I should do and then I take it into consideration.

Sometimes I listen, sometimes I don't. Do you ever be like, Em, you ever let Dre hear my shit? You know, just... Nah, I be, you know, I be so confused

because I've never met Dre a day in my life. Yeah. And like, so my, the ego in me be like, nigga, you don't see me out here making these moves? That's entitlement.

I know. You know what I'm saying? It'll happen when it happen if it's supposed to happen. But it's still a thing though. You from the West Coast. Yeah, like boy,

I know you see me. Yeah, you're right next to him. Kendrick from the hood. Like, what's going on, man? What's your relationship

like with Kendrick? You know, I'm thinking like y'all from the same place with these last albums, Mr. Morales and the Big Steppin', Black Superhero, y'all kind of on the same wavelength. That shit had me mad at first.

I'm like, damn, this nigga, he bigger than me. He didn't took my message. But also I want to say if I really care about the message, like I spoke with the homies, if I really care about the message, I should appreciate Kendrick getting it out there. Because if not, if I'm just trying to hold it as my message, then I don't really care. But for one one that's my favorite rapper yeah he from my neighborhood and I just appreciate the doors he opened just by being himself I never expect Kendrick to do

nothing for me he didn't gain me opportunities because just being letting me come around and to see certain stuff being in the studio with him um so yeah y'all do have a relationship yeah not he's not like my best friend it's like somebody from my neighborhood who's accessible to everybody from my neighborhood and you wrote on his last album then you write for summer walking with you but that's the gang stuff he I don't even think he knew till after that's just cuz you know I'm saying LVR in gave me that play summer my dog so so when they came to you like yeah we need you to write a verse for Kendrick's album but it's for summer I was like, yes. A word?

Okay, I thought you'd been like, what? I mean, you're happy to do it, but damn, you might want to be on that album. 100% I want to be on the album. I'm just grateful for the opportunity. You know what I'm saying? It's like, again, I don't be feeling no sense of entitlement. I just be happy when niggas give me a chance

because I be so conditioned that nobody going to look out for me. I don't trust nobody anyway. So when somebody actually give me a chance I'm like oh it's good humans in the world and so I was just happy about the opportunity did your mom think that you were gonna make it back then when you were doing gospel rap and getting started with everything was she real supportive my mama always been supportive of whatever I wanted to do sometimes I wish she would have pushed me more when I was younger but ever since since I figured out what I wanted to do in music and I had to stay

at home with her and I knew she needed help with rent, but she just let me record. She always told me I was going to make it and she'd be so proud of me all the time and always calling me like, I'm so proud of you, baby. And then, yeah.

Do you thank God often? Dang, not as much as I should. I be so, I haven't learned how to be present for real. I be so focused on where I want to be and where I gotta get to, where I feel like I'm supposed to be. It be hard.

And sometimes I feel like I only talk to God when I'm going through stuff. And I need to get better at talking to Him in my good times. Yeah, you gotta just say it randomly. Like, right now, thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus Bryce. I'm also in like church. Also, thank you, God. But I'm also, sometimes I'll be in spiritual limbo

because like church messed me up as far as the politics behind it. And as far as like, it didn't feel like a spiritual place no more. And then, I don't know if I want to be Christian or Muslim. You know what I'm saying? It's a real thing. I need to do my research, but right now, I am in spiritual limbo.

I know, I believe in a higher power. I believe in... I think you're in religious limbo, not spiritual. Religious limbo. There it is. That's the right term.

Religious limbo, because my spirit is in, I'm in tune. But, yeah, I really need to work on that too. Do you go to church at all still? No, I don't go to church no more. No?

Okay. Can you call it church? Didn't you say birch? I'm just trying to, I don't know trying to i don't know i'm just trying to i'm not the homie it was funny about me i don't like code switch till i get around the homies from the hood then i start replacing all the letters i turn into super blood but when i'll be out i don't do that shit and i don't be i don't know how they do it so good they can replace any letter like off top yeah i gotta be i to think about that shit before. And some of it is blasphemous. You cannot say Jesus Bryce.

The homies will, though. No. The homies will. You think so? Yeah. They wild. Earlier when you said you were thinking about where you feel like you should be or where you're supposed to be or where you want to be, where is that?

The biggest rapper in the world. I know comparison is like a thief of joy, but's hard you know i'm saying i'm in a music industry so i know it's about the value is based off accolades and like streams and stuff like that so yeah when i see dot the biggest rapper being from my neighborhood it's like okay i want to be that plus more when i'm signing m&m i don't just want to be somebody signing m&m i want to be bigger than eminem you know i'm saying it's i'm competitive still at the end of the day so the competitive nature in me sometimes stops me from being present you know i'm saying even though i'm grateful like i know it's a lot of people who would die to be in my position and i know i got a super fan base that i should that i'm

grateful for but it's hard you know i'm I'm saying? You know what's great about artists like yourself and Kendrick? I feel like y'all shattering all stereotypes of what a West Coast artist is supposed to be. You know? Back in my day, it was the lowriders, the khaki pants, and the converse, and all of that

kind of stuff. Do you think about stuff like that? Oh, yeah. And you know, I used to get frustrated because it felt like I had to get the love outside of L.A. first before L.A. gave me the love just because I wasn't making traditional L.A. music. And then they had to catch on like, oh, we can fuck with this. He represented us in a good way. And I love my home, but that's just the reality. It's hard because now we got like, it's like i can't explain the time we in with our music

in la but it's just not what i make you know i'm saying so i get it on the song stuck you talk about how much you do love your hood and going back but sometimes people will tell you it's hard because people are jealous things could be dangerous when you go back what's that balance like for you i deal with survivor's guilt all the time. I go to my neighborhood when I don't even have to. And then I force myself into stuff I don't have to, like conversations I shouldn't have no part dealing with. And that's just because sometimes I feel like I'm reaping the benefits of gangbanging when I don't have to deal with the cons of it. I could go home while they got to still live in the hood when I know the industry. Like, oh, he a blood.

Let's give him more streams. That's how I feel. You know what I'm saying? I know sometimes when I know the industry like, oh, he a blood. Let's give him more streams. That's how I feel. You know what I'm saying? I know sometimes when I put on a red bandana, I get more clicks. And so that make me feel guilty because like, yeah, I don't have to do that. You know what I'm saying? So survivor's guilt is a real thing. And I love my neighborhood, but I know I can't take them everywhere.

It's like it's a hundred of them, hundreds of them. You know what I'm saying? It's also like you being inspired by Kendrick and that could push you. And then there's kids looking at you that are inspired by seeing you make it. And I also feel like sometimes when you make it and you're able to financially help other people, that's a benefit too. Yeah. The financial part is tough, though, because, like, I got a kid I got to look out for first. I got people that I'm with every, every day that I got to look out for.

And it's just like, if I create a culture where I just give everybody money, then it's just like. But, you know, that's when you create a foundation. And maybe it's a scholarship thing that you do, you know, annually. Yeah, you're right. There's certain things that you could do. It's not like you got to help everybody and just give money away. But I do think there's a way to go about it.

You're right. My homies, it usually just be like, I got to give a way to go about it you're right my homies my it usually just be like i gotta give a verse to a lot of the homies and that'd be the tough part because it's so hard to say no and that's the tough part because they like you got this platform why you not doing this for me but they understand how draining that is and also how i gotta think of my brand if i like saturated too much by giving so many verses out it don't hold the same weight so sometimes they don't understand that and that's when i feel guilty because like then i gotta play the game like management said i can't i can't drop this and time is money too when people have to respect

the fact that you're working all the time and you do have to get compensated yeah and i'm not trapping like this i eat and sometimes they don't understand that like it's all i got so me just giving y'all verses like crazy When you talk about gangbanging, isn't gangbanging just one aspect of being in a gang? You could be in a gang and never have bang, right? Yeah, I'm just from, I'm just a gang member. I don't consider myself a gangbanger because I'm not the one in my hood that's, you know,

on that time. I go over there and I'm, like, either the rapper or I'm trying to tell the homies different stuff about why they don't got to do this. So I never tried to like fight somebody. You know what I'm saying? It's nothing to catch a fade. But, yeah, it is different aspects of it.

We got homies that we just look at for advice like the older homies. But we got homies who go take that trip, who get in that car and go do what they got to do. So it is different levels of it. But it's still fall under the same umbrella. Yeah, and it's messed up because when you're on the outside looking in like looking at a place like you know la and you hear people say they're from certain places like compton wide 12 you just automatically assume they're in a game yeah and i did like a survey in like la lately trying to see if everybody knew i was a blood because i thought i did so good at hiding it in my brain and like finding balance and i didn't think i

ever glorified it. I was like, when you first think of me, what do you think of? It was like blood. I was like, what? Look at you. Blood. Look who came up to him. It's the how is Greek gangs different from other criminal groups,

such as organized crime groups, motorcycle gangs, ideology groups, and prison gangs. What the hell? Yeah, it is different gangs. The police in L.A. is really the biggest gang. But, yeah. Yeah, that's true. I saw you say in an IG caption, I told myself I'm going to start celebrating all my sins.

I said sins. Wins. I'm sorry, all my wins. Celebrate your sins. I'm about to have my glasses on. By the way, we do celebrate a lot of our sins. We do. We did that.

We said all my wins, so I'm proud of you, Boogie. How much has positive self-talk helped you? I was capping on the Instagram post. I just wanted to sound cool. I ain't going to lie. I said I was going to, like I always say, I'm going to do stuff, but the execution is always the hard part. So I haven't really been hyping myself up

like i said i'm gonna do even since my album came out i ain't even sat down and be like oh be proud of yourself because then like i'm already back in the studio trying to compete already yeah are you doing a deluxe album yeah but i'm also trying to drop work on a project to drop right after that so my brain is kind of like all over the place right now. So you don't give yourself positive self-talk? No, I haven't. I'm going to start. I'm going to start. I promise I'm going to start.

That's a way to combat the anxiety. Because, you know, the anxiety will tell you that whatever could go wrong will go wrong. Anxiety will have you out here like Chicken Little, the sky is falling. So it is good to give yourself that positive self-talk. My anxiety is crazy. It happens. Trust me. I deal with it every day.

Let me tell y'all. And I know I got a post on Instagram. Why is that? That shit. It's the comments me, I deal with it every day. I know I gotta post on Instagram. Why is that? It's the comments. You worry about the people. It's like I open up the floodgates and I also never reply to nobody on Instagram. It's like an exercise

of me having to be the bigger person every time I post on Instagram. I don't want to have to go through that exercise every time. And you really don't tweet either. Nah, they told me to start tweeting more. I used to be like a good tweeter. You know what I'm saying? A good tweeter.

I'm pretty funny, but it's just like... It's not good for your mental health, man. It's hard. It's hard, but I ain't no bitch. I'm about to get back on it because I'm not going to let y'all punk me on social. What about vacations?

Do you go on vacations? I've never been on a vacation, ever. Ever? Nope. I went to my manager birthday last year to dr but i ended up stopping arguments between drum and other people but i said drum name i'm so funny shout out my boy drum he's on the album too yeah that's my boy shelly shell that's my brother why you call him shelly shell his name's shelly now he changed the

name to shelly oh it's not drum nolly oh no more Oh Shelly FKA drum it's a say it's drum on your album it says Shelly FKA drum no it did not on title it said just be a Shelly man look let me see 10 push-ups let me see now are you playing right there I Westside boogie Drom. They did that? Oh, y'all messed up. That's right. What's up? Let me get the 10. Let me get that 10, King. You got to go. Let me get that 10, King. Why his name don't say Shelly? Let me get that 10, King.

Blame the Interscope. One, two, three. Straighten that back up. You're doing them right. Four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. All right. Good money. Good money. Good money. Good money.

Good money. Good money. Nice. And you high, too? You just blew your high. You a lot of breath. I literally hate losing that stuff. So, listen, what about a vacation, though?

I think maybe it's time for that. And you can take your son. Oh, he going to piss me off in the first couple of days. He can stay home. I need a vacation from him, too, for real. But you should. But I ain't got no joint I want to bring right now. You never went on vacation with your ex?

Nah, that's probably another reason she was off. Sure. Nigga probably flew her out real quick. For Hawaii right there. I know, man. I'd be touring. I'm a starving artist, bro. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes I feel like I don't got the luxury even though I could afford a vacation.

You could probably get a free vacation, too. On me? Just finesse it? No. Yeah, you definitely could. They'd be like, look, we just need you to do a post. Yeah, I just started figuring out I could do that in L.A. It was a bowling alley, and I used my name, and they let me in.

I was like, oh, shit, I could finesse my name. You definitely could get a resort to comp that, and they just, you know. All right, let's set it up. Yeah, we definitely could set that up what made you want to put soldier boy on can't even lie because you got soldier actually rapping i was trying to be funny at first in the studio with the homies i was like yo just give me soldier boy energy i was just with my producers and i text my manager like the idea i'm like i know this sounds crazy but what if then he told me soldier boy price and Price, and we got the verse. Wow.

Fast. You give that boy that bread, you get it. You know what I'm saying? Money talk. Shout out to Big Soulja because he gave me a good verse and I'm happy for that. Yeah, he's rapping.

You got to be actually rapping. Shout out to Big Soulja. Bompton Soulja Boy. All right. Oh, y'all claim him. He is Bompton. Hey, man. It's whatever he say.

That's interesting, too, that we talk about Price because I saw the other day NBA Youngboy, Game was talking about, well, W other day nba young boy game was talking about well whack was talking about it and game was talking about it but getting charged to do a verse that's not offensive right when you know you deserve a certain price too yeah everybody gotta eat sometimes it'd be swapped but it only it's it gotta be beneficial everybody don't want to do a swap because they ain't gonna want want your verse for their project. They just want some bread.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I get it. Snoop, I'm sure that felt like a rite of passage in a way, right, to get Snoop on a record? It did. I love Snoop because he's so accessible to all the, like, good L.A. artists. Or even, like, as long as you're, like, passionate about it, you can find a way to get to Snoop. And I DM'd him, and he gave me two verses in two days. And I appreciate Big Snoop.

And he got on your wave with this album. He talking about meditation and everything. Shout out to Big Snoop. Side of Tay. What song is that? Windows Down? Windows Down. Windows Roll Down?

I don't even know the name of it. Windows Down? Roll Down? Smoke too much weed. Do you respond to your fans when they hit you up? Because I'm sure you've influenced a lot of them because you've been so open about everything you've gone through and therapy and how you're trying to heal yeah i do reply as much as i can um it's just hard though i said i'm

gonna start going on live more to have like conversations with them to be more like intimate with them um because they did wait a long time for me to drop an album and i don't want to just disappear like off into the abyss so i'm gonna try to do better at talking to them you say you're working on your next album if your next album you know if the if the gods are telling you amen continue to talk about what it is you're talking about continue to talk about healing continue to talk about growth are you gonna fight that mm-hmm definitely that don't mean I'm not gonna do it but I'm definitely going to fight it. That don't mean I'm not going to do it, but I'm definitely going to fight it. Why, man? If it's real, it's real.

I'm conditioned, bro. I'm from a gang. I'm like, I don't know. I said one thing. I was about to make it sound like it's layered. I said I'm from a gang, and then it ended. But it's just hard. I don't know.

Why can't you do both? Why can't you say, hey, if the Spirit moves you to write a record like this, write it. If it moves you to write a record like this, do it. If you want to do it in the same song, why not? I'm just choosing to be ignorant. I'm going to do it, man. I'm going to keep talking about it. I know the responsibility I got now.

Not just that I spoke on therapy, just the fact that I'm aware. So I got to move better, and I'm always going to move better. Well, hopefully I am. And listen, we're all the perfect balance of ratchetness and righteousness love that you know I mean did any of the girls stop talking to you from your birthday party the other night yeah I just tried to say hi to all of them the next day and it's over I really my roster is done for you gotta start all over right now is gonna even make it more worse how many you had bro no it wasn't like that it was like because the hard part is right people try to wait it out

to see to the end like who's leaving with him i know and that's what the crazy part because girls start hanging around yeah let me tell you i got home that night right so i was like i'm gonna be smart and just not go home with none of these bitches you know i'm saying bitches i'm so sorry see wow perfect balance i apologize because that wasn't cool at all your work in progress but um these women and i got home and one of them was sitting in my room at 4 in the morning waiting to catch me up with another girl. And that's one of the most scariest things. And I was like, you can't play with these people's feelings.

How did she get in your room? I left my door unlocked like an idiot. And some people know I be leaving my door unlocked, because I just be being lazy. So she knew that, and she was in my room waiting for me. There was like seven girls there. but none of them is my girlfriend. So I don't know why they was acting like that. Did you let her stay after that? Do you have a name?

Like the Westside Boogiers or something? No, man. I'm not proud of this, actually. Did she stay after that? No. She had to go home because she told me I was being disrespectful. She was just like, why would you invite me if you're going to have these other girls there, blah, blah, this.

And I said, I actually didn't invite you. My assistant invited you. Wow. I didn't know you was coming. And I also felt like I didn't hug on none of them at the party.

I stayed around the homies. So it was just her intuition because some other dude texted me after the party, some singer. He was like, I just want to let you know you a pimp.

And I'm just like, how? I didn't talk to none of them girls while I was up there. Meanwhile, all the girls texting you. It ain't no way you still a bitch ass nigga and you being Terry. See, man. Where's the merch? That was a bad idea.

I know. I'm even going to make some merch saying that. That was a bad idea? It was. Because if you invite a girl or your assistant does, they think that they're the one that's coming. That's why they got invited. Like, okay. I know.

You want to be on Fairfax and just they got invited like okay but if we never had no conversation before that about us being in a relationship right just about us being exclusive about none of that your expectations like you can't put that on me then i gotta deal with the guilt after because of your expectations that's crazy to me so you wouldn't have been mad if they would have talked to somebody else at the party since you guys dang i would have been pissed because it works both ways. Because I actually did that drunk shit. I remember saying one of the things to one of the girls,

like, you better not do no dumb shit up here. Yeah, I was being toxic. Now I think about it. Your therapist, I'm sure, has talked to you about choices or boiches. I don't know how you would pronounce that. Dang, you got to replace two C's in that. Yes, but you made a choice. So if those girls would have cut up in that party,

that would have been your fault. It is my fault. Why? No, no, no, no, no. You invited them. You invited them and you said there was no conversation. You invited all that energy in your life. You're right.

I didn't invite all of them, though. My assistant invited, like, majority of them. Why would they do that? You knew who was invited, though. You knew who was on the list. No, I didn't. I didn't know who was on that list. I just pulled up to it.

It was a party for me. I didn't pay attention to the RSVP. I just let my assistant do her thing. You know what's on the list. No, I didn't. I didn't know who was on that list. I just pulled up to it. It was a party for me. I didn't pay attention to the RSVP. I just let my assistant do her thing. You know what I'm saying? And so. Now I'm starting to realize that line was probably based on a true story. A woman actually told you that. All this stuff is real.

That came from a real thing. That definitely came from a real woman that said that. Not her specifically, but a real experience. And there's no judgment for you now when you date, right? Like you said, you don't want to have to pass judgment on these women based off their past or things that they've done. Yeah, I don't judge. I don't judge. I just can't talk to women who dated my peers.

Not like I judge them because of that, but I just don't want to, like, you know what I'm saying? You dated Jed or like Smino. Niggas I got to see all the time. I don't, I'm cool. Yeah, you can't wife, you can't wife her. But what's dated? Like, what if they just? If the homies hit, I'm cool.

Do you ask those questions? Do you ask her or do you ask the homies? What if they didn't hit? What if they just had conversations? No, I'll ask the homies. I'll be like, have you dated any rappers?

That's my question. What if they just had FaceTime conversations that never, more than that? FaceTime conversation? I'm not sure if I'm on FaceTime conversation.

But if somebody smacked or like, you know what I'm saying or you gave him a head or What if he just gave her a head? A munch That's funny That's cool

I ain't got no problem Yeah I ain't got no problem with that I don't know That's kind of wild bro Your homie be like Yo you know I eat your girl out You're right

And passing you the blunt That is kind of crazy actually Yeah any type of sexual thing, I'm cool. Oh, man. Listen, more black superheroes is out right now. Yes, sir. Westside Boogie, support this project. I love what you're doing, brother.

Appreciate y'all having me, for real. You know what I'm saying? I love the fact that you are on your healing journey and you're expressing it through your music. You see how far away I am on my healing journey? No, you're not. You're right where you need to be. Let's find your real human being.

Thank you. You have a lot of contradictory things going on in your head, but that's how we all are. Ain't no mile markers on that road, that healing road. When is it deluxe?

They said I was supposed to turn it in two days, but let me tell you, I do not got it done. So maybe next week I'm going to turn it in so maybe it'll come out like... They can't help you? You the artist. I think they're looking at me to not got it done. So maybe next week I'm going to turn it in. So maybe it'll come out like. It can't help you.

You the artist. I think you're looking at me to not say the date. So I can't say the date. They don't want you to miss it. The 30th. What's up? Oh, man. West Side Boogie.

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Listen to Gracias Come Again on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone, this is Courtney Thorne-Smith, Laura Layton,

and Daphne Zuniga. On July 8, 1992, apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same as Melrose Place was introduced to the world. We are going to be reliving every hookup, every scandal, and every single wig removal together. So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.