The Breakfast Club - What's On the Video — Part Three with Karmelo Anthony's Parents

Episode Date: June 16, 2026

Today's episode is set up in two parts on the Karmelo Anthony case. First , three people who say they personally requested and viewed the security footage from the trial held a press conference to giv...e their account of what is on the video. We hear from them directly. Then, Mimi Brown plays Part Three of her exclusive sit-down with Karmelo Anthony's parents, where the parents share their own perspective on what they say the video shows. From the Black Effect Podcast Network.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:16 On this episode, we're going to hear from three people who say they personally viewed the video evidence from the fatal encounter involving Carmelo Anthony and Austin Metcalf. They held a press conference offering their own accounts of what they say the footage shows. And the video has not been released publicly, but the group says they formally requested access and they were allowed to view it. Here's some of what they say the video shows. Yes, again, my name is Tony Start event. I was one of the individuals that put in a FOIA request to see the video.
Starting point is 00:03:46 What I saw was was starkly different from the testimony that I heard given in the trial. There were six kids that walked up, two splintered off. I guess that part of was introduced in the trial where they went to deflect the coach. The other four walked directly to Carmelo Anthony. There was a brief conversation, I say maybe 20, 30 seconds, and from there, a scuffle ensued. It didn't last long. Carmelo backed out the back of the canopy. He looked one way, looked to the left, and flew down those bleachers.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Now, this is the video that was presented to us. This is the questions that I have, though. Why was in that video presented in court? And is it the true video? Because, again, it's starkly different from the testimony given in the trial. Carmela Anthony flew down those bleachers, fell at the bottom of the bleachers, got up, took off. It was maybe two or three kids that you can see kind of give chase, but Carmela was gone. So they weren't even going to put a finger on them and touch them.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Again, there was a scuffle that is sued at the top of the bleachers, and Carmela got it there. I don't know why that was not brought up in court. I don't know why that was shown. I don't know if the ISD gave us a bogus ass video. I don't know, but that's what I saw. Hello, everybody. I'm an advocate for Carmelo Anthony. My name is T. And when I went to see the video, they asked if you want to see it from either two minutes before the stabbing or 11 minutes before. So I chose 11 minutes. From the moment she pressed play, Carmelo Anthony was already sitting up underneath that canopy. And he was sitting there for at least eight to nine and a half minutes. You see, well, I saw a boy in a black hoodie go over to him first. And then they left out of the tent. And then they left out of the tent. And he was sitting there for at least eight to nine and a half minutes. You see, well, I saw, well, I saw, I saw a boy in a black hoodie go over to him. You see. You see. Well, and I saw, and then. You see, and then I see. You see, and then you see coming across the field was another six boys. When they got to the bleachers, one he went out of frame,
Starting point is 00:05:49 and the other one sat at the bottom. But the remaining four, they went directly to Carmelo Anthony. And like T said before, it was a brief conversation, and then all you see is commotion. And we know from the interviews that Hunter did, we know that Hunter was, in fact, up underneath that. tent. The next thing you see, I'm sorry, you can see Carmelo in the midst of them assaulting him. You can see Carmelo trying to back out, but he gets pulled back forward. The next thing you see
Starting point is 00:06:22 is Carmelo, he comes shooting out the back, but he's still not standing. And he had to, like, kind of crab crawl backwards, and he had to, like, jerk away from them because they still had a hold of his hoodie. He goes up a couple bleachers, and he's looking around for which way to go. He runs diagonal, down the bleachers and then he falls. At the time of him falling, that's when I noticed another three boys coming down the bleachers chasing after him. But once Carmelo got up, he took off. You didn't see him for the rest of the video. At no point in that video, do you see Hunter holding his brother? And no point in that video, do you see those boys ever going back to the tent and sitting down? That was all a lie. And I also have questions. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:09 how the defense did not play that video. Because when you see that video, it was self-defense. Carmelo was only 5-8, 130-something pounds. And Austin and Hunter Metcalf were 6-21220-something pounds. So for people to say that he should have used his hands, people can die from fights, from people using their hands. And that's all I'm going to say for right now. I'm Christopher King.
Starting point is 00:07:37 I actually was a licensed attorney in Colin County several years ago working with the city of Frisco on a certain project. But I'm Christopher King. My handle is Kingcast online. I'm also a journalist. And I have a couple things for you briefly. Today I have filed my request for all exhibits used that trial. We'll see how that turns out. I had mailed it in before with the self-adjust stamp envelope. Didn't get a response. So I figured I'd fly out here and file it in person this time. So after this trial, what I see as an attorney, I saw what I believe to be malpractice. And I don't know why it happened, but I will tell you a couple of quick reference points. Number one, he allowed those students to young people, not professional people, to testify as to ultimate issues of fact, such as, was it murder or not? Yes. You know, was it provocation?
Starting point is 00:08:24 Carmelo provoked him. That's not how it works. You have to make them elucute as to what Carmelo did to allegedly provoke a situation. That's how it works. And when you don't object to it in the case is in chief, you cannot come back later post-talk and then ask the judge and complain about it in a jury charge. There was also there were also no expert witnesses produced. No use of force expert. No jury professional consultant was there that I know of.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Okay. So these are all very serious questions on this case. And I don't understand it, but I don't like it. And I think this is the proverbial travesty of justice that we have just witnessed here. And there needs to be an investigation. It's not right. It's just not right. Okay, so keep in mind what you just heard, because in part three of my exclusive sit down with Carmelo Anthony's parents,
Starting point is 00:09:16 they share their own perspective of what they say the video shows. If you miss parts one and two, go back to Friday and Monday. But here's part three. The evidence shows he jumped three bleachers to get to him. Now, did the jury hear that information? And is that information on the video? That's on the video. And they had they made, their minds made up.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Their mind was made up. But I already made up. Three, three bleachers. Some say one, some said three, some side of five. They all their statements was inconsistent. Tell us, because we haven't seen that video. What did that video show? The video showed,
Starting point is 00:10:04 Honestly, you can show that you can see him coming into the tent, sit down, and then it's like it started getting a little, like you couldn't tell the people. But you know, we're experts. Let me tell you what the DA did. They put a spotlight on the boys, right? So you can see them, right? But they never put a spotlight on Kamala. And the reason why is because, of course, they was trying to make their side look. Like, oh, it wasn't that bad and pushed the whole thing move.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Even the guy E.P. said in his statement, it was so bad to it pushed him out the way. Because it's some pretty big kids. They're really big. They're big to me, actually. So it's like they tried to minimize their doing. But I've heard people who would pose to be justice if, in Texas, if I threaten you when I'm like, you have the right to do whatever force if you feel for your life.
Starting point is 00:11:10 No, he said if you feel for your life or seriously. Body home. Yeah. Oh, they were trying to justify the student. And so the video that you all, that they showed in court, it shows him running away from. Yeah, he ran to a teacher. The teacher said the teacher he ran to, he ran to a guy
Starting point is 00:11:33 and the teacher he ran to actually he hugged him because Camillo, he's not like that. He hugged the guy. He was freaking out. He hugged the guy. So the guy was, they was hugging. He was crying hysterically. And they tried to pay him as if he was trying to leave.
Starting point is 00:11:53 But then, of court, they said it that he wasn't trying to leave. Yeah. And did this teacher testify? He did. Yes. And he also said you had to stop another kid from jumping on Kamala, which was, guess what? Supposed to have been the person that was his friend. The guy who, hey, man, come on.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Look, hey, if you've been in a high school, think about that. The guy that told you to come over here, you're sitting down, the same person who could have de-escalated the whole thing. He was trying to go after him. And that's the same guy that was playing like he was video on, but they couldn't find the video. The police didn't really even try to go through his phone. They even looked for the video. So he played, he said he was acting as if he was recorded. Now, when he was running, was this before or after the incident happened?
Starting point is 00:12:42 It's after the incident. This is after the incident. That's why they came up with the narrative that he was running. Yeah, he threw the knife when he threw, he didn't throw the knife. His hand was cut. So it's a lie that when you, the video show, if you ever been on high school bleachers, you're not almost there. You know how you try to run. So imagine trying to run up.
Starting point is 00:13:04 He failed. So what did you think fail? He only went up. They caught it in three bleachers. It was like three bleachers up. It was three bleachers up. So when you see, you can see him get up. You could tell he dropped it.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Then he stood up. He didn't know where to go. Did he ran down, fell, and they was coming after him. He ran around and ran to a coach. Did the video show the altercation of them approaching him first? and then the confrontation. Okay. Yes, no.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Okay. Okay. Did you talk to your defense attorney about any of these concerns that you had as the trial was playing out or even now that the trial is over? 100%. I mean, I'm actually praying that somebody sent us, somebody that we get sent, somebody that can help us. It's kind of like I'm still right now in shock.
Starting point is 00:14:00 So I'm just moving on and drilling right now. So you're looking for a new defense attorney for a future appeal. Yeah. And did your defense attorney say anything about how he feels or they feel the case went? I'm going to say they gave us the corporate answer. And did Carmelo want to testify on his own behalf and was? The vibe. It was based on everything, it didn't need nothing
Starting point is 00:14:33 because everything they said, when it's so the fence, they have to prove it. They never proved. Okay. So that was never, that was, because I know there was this pause, and a lot of people thought that, you know, we were going to come back and he was going to take the stand
Starting point is 00:14:47 and he didn't. So that was never an option that had never been discussed of him taking the stand. That's why we just need a new, we need somebody who's go fight. That's what I'm going to say, right now. We didn't need somebody on a fight for him. Because their whole thing was he provoked it. That was their entire case he provoked it. That's what the whole thing was.
Starting point is 00:15:15 What do you want the world to know about who Carmelo is and what your family is going through right now? We're going to hell. It doesn't feel real. We feel like it just don't feel real. He's a good kid. I mean, the receipts show that he was in the YN. We, as adults, we're not helping with the YNs. And I can know we could look at the tragedy that had him, but it was by the law. The law posed to cover us.
Starting point is 00:15:52 So anybody who feels any way different, I honestly feel like, I mean, it's okay when the devil don't knock at your door. Because I was clues like that too, hey, man, it never happened. It would never happen to me. It would never happen to me, us. Because, you know, we stayed in our lane. We were nice neighborhood. We were doing good.
Starting point is 00:16:12 But these people basically made it there. We had just had comments to what people said, yeah, we're sending y'all back to the hood. We sent y'all, yeah, y'all don't deserve. They y'all don't deserve what y'all have. He said it in court yesterday. He said that they told my son to look at me when I'm talking. who said that the dad the son both of them said look at me while we talk to you like oh it's going to come out they said look at me while we talk to me what yeah the dad metcast father said that to
Starting point is 00:16:46 carmel and the son the son came out the son came out um he eventually got understand for the impact statement you know to to but he didn't want to get understand as players out. Is there anything that you both wish you could have done differently? I wish I would just being rebellious and just do what I. I was told don't talk to this person. Don't talk to this person. I feel like it was just a setup now. Like I said, they told us, go get, I'm white attorneys. Every black person I went to a white attorney. No, white attorney said I'm all. Pushed him. Hey, here you go.
Starting point is 00:17:31 I mean, no objections. It wasn't, it wasn't. It was thingless, smooth, because as a father, of me being who I am, I got to make sure she's straight. There's mama bad. I got to make sure she's straight mentally because if she's not straight, my house ain't straight. I'm not straight. Because I got the kids that are the kids to worry about.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Got to make sure his mental health. I can't go back and forth with him, right? I didn't know because I don't think his mental can handle it, the misunderstanding what dad is trying to. I'm telling you. This ain't a daddy moment. You understand what I'm saying? It's not, it's not the time for me when you're arguing with you about, hey, you know, so I'm talking, hey, son, can you see, hey, can you see, can you see? I know a lot of people say, well, I would have done this or I would have done that. You say that because you're not in that situation. So I couldn't do that and me knowing my son, which is you know your child, correct? You see, I don't want him to maybe want to hurt yourself because I don't know what he's doing with. He's He's doing a great job. He's still in school. I'm keeping him busy.
Starting point is 00:18:33 We're trying to do stuff around the house. And one thing, this thing did do with us and brought our family closer. When the verdict came down, what was the first thought that went through your head? I felt my son. I was, I feel like, man, I felt like I cried so much. I held back and I told her, man, you know, I'm in that dad, like, hold it up, you know, hold it up to be tight. I said, boy, you broke me. You broke me when it first half.
Starting point is 00:19:10 I never cried as much as I've cried. And when that, when they, it was just like when I seen him, when he grabbed it, I could still picture that man. And he's saying it. He said it's so smooth. The way he read that verdict, it was like, you know, just, yeah, hey. Yeah. As a search and such, yeah, he's found guilty. It was just comfortable.
Starting point is 00:19:31 And they also said, we were told not to look at the family, but they said that the dad was actually giving the witnesses different signs, like, doing, do this, like telling them, giving them masses. And I told my attorney, like, yeah, we know, we know, we know. The hell you mean, you know. But identify act up. I'm the emotional black man. You follow what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:19:54 Oh, look at him. Then it would have been on breaking news. Oh, he don't flashed out. Oh, look out. Look, that's how they had it. We got them. So I had to humble myself. It wasn't just for me and my family.
Starting point is 00:20:06 It was for all of us. Because if I would have flashed out the way I wanted to, oh, it would have been all that. You would probably be looking at it. God damn it, everybody went up there after the fool. That's what they wanted. So I played their game, and I'm just letting you know. Their games don't work.
Starting point is 00:20:20 It's not for us. The justice is not for it. They can't say we need anything out of what we're told. We follow all the instructions, and we follow the law. It just don't work for us. What do you say to the people who say... That's he's calling out. He's calling out. Take it. Take it. That's part three of my conversation with Carmelo Anthony's parents. Thank you to the family for sharing your story with me. We're going to keep watching this case, the video, the appeal,
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