The Breakfast Club - When You Know Better, You Move Different (Sherri Shepherd interview Part 2)

Episode Date: September 10, 2026

Loren LoRosa sits down with Sherri Shepherd for a candid conversation about protecting your peace, knowing when to say no, and navigating life when the stakes get higher. Sherri opens up about why she... declined to participate in a Wendy Williams documentary, the importance of controlling your own narrative, and what it means to move with integrity when everyone wants a story. The conversation also gets personal as Loren and Sherri talk about love, finding peace at home, intimacy, aging, menopause, faith, career growth, The View, and learning to handle the pressure that comes with having a bigger platform. Plus, Loren reflects on her own journey, fear, faith, and what it means to work smarter—not harder. Sherri Shepherd brings the laughs, honesty, and plenty of real talk to the latest with Loren LoRosa.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:34 Listen to Pro Society on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I survived nine months in captivity. And I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart. And these are the Survivor Files. Every week, I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable, abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced.
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Starting point is 00:03:02 This is your daily dig on all things pop culture. entertainment news and all of the conversations that shake the room, baby. Now today, checking in behind the scenes of the grind because you guys know that that is how we start off the latest with Lauren and Rosa. And for those of you guys who may be first time listeners, welcome, okay? This is one of the best experiences of your lives. I guarantee it your life, lives. Welcome.
Starting point is 00:03:25 We do the behind the scenes of the grind check-in, which is a real check-in where I ask myself and you guys can take a moment to ask yourselves, how are you really feeling? When you were on the grind, that is not something you do. And I wanted to do better at taking care of myself. So I built this in as a segment to the show because we hear daily. So if I'm checking in on myself today, how am I really feeling? You know, I've been thinking a lot and having conversations a lot about what this new rendition or era or just level of the grind looks like. I want to work smarter and not harder.
Starting point is 00:04:05 And I think out of fear that, you know, everything I worked for was going to come the day, be gone tomorrow, or one wrong decision was going to, you know, stop everything in its tracks. Like, I've just been very, very cautious over these last, like, you know, I would say like decade that I've been building in life. Because I'm working really hard and there's a lot of people to depend on me. But I think what I've learned is that that anxiety and that fear has placed a permanent. like backup. I wouldn't even say backup plan because I've never had a backup plan. Like it's always this or nothing for me and everything I'm doing, even if it's not directly related to entertainment, storytelling,
Starting point is 00:04:45 media, fashion, that whole thing. It's just to support the dream and the vision. Like I've always been very focused in that way. But it does put a, it's like your second guessing yourself about things and about decisions that you shouldn't be doing that within. And that is not healthy too. So I've been thinking a lot about what there's a whole, brown girl no grinding look like like what is the rendition of that and what i had to come to a realization
Starting point is 00:05:11 of after having an amazing conversation with my pastor shout out to pastor jerome lewis that seeds of greatness over the weekend is that it's not just a physical thing like i can tell myself and i have yo you can't be out four to five days a night you plan on getting up and being sharp at four or five o'clock in the morning you also got to go to sleep more and you got to eat well you got to make sure you're eating in general and not just going, going, going. But my mental has to be cool, too. And, you know, me and this fear thing, y'all, it's so crazy. I've never been a person that has dealt with fear whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:05:44 I've always been like, I'm going to jump out the window and I'm going to find my wings on the way down. But at this level in life, there's a lot more at stake in it. And I feel it sometimes. So I do allow fear to control how I show up a bit. And that is such a, I didn't even like. saying that out loud until I had the conversation this weekend with my pastor and just had to get really real about that. And then facing that, you know, I think if number one is freeing, number two, I think it's putting me in a position to make better decisions. But number three, it's having me
Starting point is 00:06:17 really be like, girl, you are such a strong believer in your faith journey. And in God, two things cannot exist. Fear and God cannot exist. We talk a lot about spirituality on this podcast because it is my bread and butter. We talk a lot about God because everything and everything that you guys, everything that I'm doing, everything that you guys are hearing comes from him and I will scream that to the mountaintops. But I had to really ask myself a question as I was thinking about, you know, how I've been mentally taking care of myself and dealing with this fear of, like fear of losing, fear of not getting things right, fear of, you know, the critique, fear of not being able to fix and own up to the critique and, you know, fear of your own
Starting point is 00:06:59 only as good as your last story. And mentally, like, it's just not a, that's not a good way to live. I always think about this thing that I learned about some years ago called the withering of black women. And this conversation, this study, all the information surrounding that, talks about how there are so much societal pressures and, you know, stress points that are put on black women in that we as black women accept ourselves.
Starting point is 00:07:26 And I'm only speaking as a black woman. I'm not saying that like black men on experiences either, but I'm saying that because I am a black woman. And I, woman, and I look at my mom and I always tell her, you know, I can tell physically I can look at her and tell when she's stressed about something, just by how well she's not taking care of herself and certain things.
Starting point is 00:07:47 And I had to stop and tell myself that, like, yo, you've been allowing fear to have so much place in your brain. Maybe not showing up everything in every, way all the time but it's been there and in the push through beyond that that's when you're like fully like the wellness comes in and the wellness leads into you being able to do what you do effortlessly get on these stages these platforms these networks and do what you do effortlessly so i've been in that in that bag having that conversation with myself my pastor gave me a book um over the weekend that i actually just started i say just started i'm like maybe page like 10
Starting point is 00:08:25 in, but I'm excited to read the book. I think it's going to add a lot of clarity around my decision making. The book is called Better Decisions, Fewer Regrets by Andy Stanley. It's five questions to help you determine your next move. Yeah, it's so crazy because when you are the new, it's like I always want to be learned,
Starting point is 00:08:42 I always want to learn to be teachable, but when you're a new kid at school, you have to be so accountable for the things that, like, you're not allowing to be taught and to happen naturally. Like, I, I'm just going to see some. going to let go on that God, but I'm really trying to own that season and let that happen and not get in the way of it. So behind the scenes of the grind, I have been having these self-talks.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Whenever I feel myself and my own wants and my own needs, taking priority, uh-uh, bring it on back, bring it on back. I don't know if that helps somebody out there, but I hope it did. But I want to get on into the latest because when we talk about platforms and networks and television, There are two black women that have been a huge part of this conversation within the last, I mean, one of them for over decades, like literally decades, over a decade. Another one of them within the last like six years has really taken over this space. I'm talking to Sherry Shepherd. We sit down for a conversation about Wendy Williams and the documentary that is coming on Peacock, clap if you care. This documentary is going to be executive produced and brought to us by Wendy's former producer,
Starting point is 00:09:55 Suzanne Bass, who was also a former friend. I broke the story here on the latest with Lauren the Rose, and I told you guys that a source close to Wendy Williams told me that Wendy was blindsided by Suzanne's involvement in the documentary, which is very alarming because we had saw Suzanne and Wendy hanging out, and, you know, Wendy can't do much, but she's able to go to dinners and certain things, and Suzanne was one of the people we had saw around her. So to know that, you know, they were reaching out to people about being involved in this documentary
Starting point is 00:10:21 as recent as, like, April. And that was after we had seen them out together. And I know because of my source close to Wendy that Suzanne and Wendy Williams are no longer friends. Yeah, Suzanne's involved in his doc. And I saw a clip from Norman Baker. Norman was another one of Wendy's producers. We would see him on the show a lot. Wendy would banter with him.
Starting point is 00:10:45 He sat down with the girl. Shout out to the Girlies over at Off-the-Record podcast. And he talked about why he decided to decline to participate in the doc. Let's take a listen to Norman. I don't want to be involved in trashing her. Have you been asked to participate? I have been asked to participate. It's just not really for me.
Starting point is 00:11:04 I would like to have final say on, like, what I'm going to say about her. Suzanne Bass. She's going to be heavily involved. What was your reaction when you found out that she was going to be involved in one of the documentaries? Suzanne really wants to make, like, a really, really nice tribute to our show and to Wendy. So I hope that it ends up. up, you know, being that way and being like a nice tribute. But again, I think I just want to have control over my own narrative. Well, Sherry Shepard gets into it with me about whether she agreed
Starting point is 00:11:37 to participate or not in this doc. Let's get into the exclusive conversation. Behind every night spent making the kids lunches, there's a lot of suspense. Will they finally eat the veggies? Will the pasto survive the first bite? Will the lunchbox come home empty, half full, or come home at all? And will you finish episode 8 before you're done slicing the cucumbers? Get Bell Pure Fiber Internet with Craved Netflix and Disney Plus from $94 a month. Price guaranteed for two years on Internet with a two-year term and auto pay credit. Visit bell.com for details and to check availability.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Bell, connection is everything. Hey, everyone. It's the Jonas Brothers with the Hey Jonas Podcast. We've been catching up with some great friends, Paul Rod, Michael Bublay, Seth Myers, Nile Horan, Jake Shane, and making some new friends while getting into what's really like to have sisters, like Alex and Asgen Earl. She likes to control everyone and tell everyone what to do. Okay, well, control is a harsh word. I would say that's a harsh word.
Starting point is 00:12:30 I am more outspoken. Growing up a lot of the times because she was so quiet. I would speak for like the both of us. Now I'm working on like thinking a moment, really not controlling it. Not controlling. Everything before I speak. And Joey King. You know if your like mom is yelling at your sibling and even if you're annoyed with your sibling,
Starting point is 00:12:49 you just like won't let that slide. It's like only you can yell at your sibling. I'm like, you can't do that here. That is. You do not talk about her like that. Only talk about her like that. Plus, we've been taking your calls, listening to your voicemails and giving advice. Or at least trying to.
Starting point is 00:13:04 So if you've got catching up to do, now is the perfect time. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinero, and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita, trading the pity for possibility.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people, and they were like, you smiled at us. Not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind, or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and held captive for nine months. I survived and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I'm Elizabeth Smart, and these are the Survivor Files. I just remember this low, taunting voice next to my ear saying, shut up, don't say anything. Every week, I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable. I knew if he woke up, without a doubt, he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed, and I just started screaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. But these aren't stories about what's taken from them. There's stories about what it takes to make it out alive.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Listen to the Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. By age 11 or so, at least 70% have a phone. Middle school is a different world than the one we grew up in. I'm Dr. Joy, and this is therapy for black girls. We spent real time on it in our surviving middle school run, bringing in a child psychologist and a psychiatrist who's raising two black girls of his own to talk about what's really going on with our kids right now.
Starting point is 00:15:33 So it's literally physiological and neurological and psychological and psychological chaos happening all this end up. We got into group chats and gaming, friendships and bullying, and how to tell the difference between healthy monitoring and the kind of surveillance that erodes trust. There's belonging. You could think of belonging as, I can be. myself and I can still be accepted. And then there's fitting in. Spitting in says I have to change who I am in order to avoid rejection.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Then we turn the conversation toward the fathers, sitting down with therapist Keer Gaines on Black fatherhood and what it means to raise a daughter through this stage. You don't have more shorts so you can't do flips. You have on the dress. You have to cross your legs. That's the range of this run, from screen time to identity to the fathers doing the work at home. We have to get off her device.
Starting point is 00:16:19 But the reality is there's a lot of life out there that we don't want you as your adults in their life to miss out on. This has been our surviving middle school run. Brought to you by the people who spend their careers thinking about exactly this. I'm Dr. Joy. Listen to therapy for black girls on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I was about to light it up on some people. Yeah, but y'all didn't ask me either.
Starting point is 00:16:44 So I'm really glad. But yeah. I'll listen. You didn't ask for something now. She got that look on her face like, mm-mm, sherry ain't going to talk. Because you was talking about to see it clear people, and I was just wondering. I know that the clear people trying to do this Wendy Doc. I was wondering if they didn't call you about it.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Yeah, but I said no. Okay. Because out of respect for Wendy, we weren't friends. Like, I guess I was a guest on her show a couple times. And literally, when you were a guest on somebody's show, you got four minutes on that couch, five minutes. I had only met Wendy. She came on the view a couple times. I was on her couch for five minutes.
Starting point is 00:17:19 And then I left. And so we didn't have any We didn't have any relationship Outside of that kind of thing I co-hosted but she wasn't there Right So out of respect What would I I don't I don't engage in gossip
Starting point is 00:17:33 That I've heard So you know I don't have anything to add Yeah to a documentary And no matter how many 19, 20 documentaries I want to do So I respect her too much To you know be saying anything that's negative Because I don't know her like that
Starting point is 00:17:49 Oh so I mean we talked about Charlemagne and they reached out to him. He had said no. We broke a story here on the latest with Lauren the Rosa. A source close to Wendy said that she was actually like blindsided by the fact that Suzanne was even going to be involved. But what I love is, I say all that to say what I love is no matter how anybody felt about whatever certain things she talked about whatever.
Starting point is 00:18:08 What you're seeing is so many people like, Beverly Smith, so many people coming out and being like, I don't want no part in that. Like I am good. I would have to say with people who claim that they know her. Why are you doing it? Yeah. What's the motivation behind why you feel like you have to share about Wendy? And especially if you know the family does not approve, then what's the ulterior motive behind that?
Starting point is 00:18:35 Yeah. That's why you have so many people going out of respect. I'm not going to do that. I think it's her story to tell. Okay. When she, when she, and if she chooses to, like if there's going to be a documentary about the show. Yeah. If she's up to and able to, I would want her to be involved.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Yeah, absolutely. And I would have been like, it's very telling that the family doesn't approve of it. So, you know, I'm going now, everybody's reaching out blind, trying to ask people who have nothing to do with Wendy. So that makes me. A little weary. That makes me a little leery and question motivations. Well, and I see my publicist looking at me. That's the nice thing that Sherry's going to say.
Starting point is 00:19:10 And she, yeah, we keep it there. That's why you need a black woman on your team. Uh-huh. Because look, it's those looks. Y'all here. You're having some on in the background. but she didn't even have to say nothing. I felt the look.
Starting point is 00:19:22 I looked over my shoulder. I think I saw her fist go up too. Don't throw me in here. I wish you would. The two front teeth shown, I wish you would say some. You would shut up. So that's, well, I'm going to leave it very nice. I question motivations behind wanting to tell a story.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Things have been said. What are you going to say that's so different that the family doesn't even approve of this documentary? Leave it right there. Yeah. Well, thank you. Behind every night spent making the kids' lunches, there's a lot of suspense. Will they finally eat the veggies? Will the pastos survive the first bite?
Starting point is 00:19:58 Will the lunchbox come home empty, half full, or come home at all? And will you finish episode 8 before you're done slicing the cucumbers? Get Bell Pure Fiber Internet with Craved Netflix and Disney Plus from $94 a month. Price guaranteed for two years on Internet with a two-year term and auto pay credit. Visit bell.com.za for details and to check availability. Bell, connection is everything. Hey, everyone, it's the Jonas Brothers with the Hey Jonas Podcast. We've been catching up with some great friends, Paul Rudd, Michael Bublay, Seth Myers, Nile Horan, Jake Shane,
Starting point is 00:20:27 and making some new friends while getting into what's really like to have sisters, like Alex and Ashton Earl. She likes to control everyone and tell everyone what to do it. Okay, well, control is a harsh word. I would say that's a harsh word. I am more outspoken. Growing up a lot of the times because she was so quiet. I would speak for like the both of us. Now I'm working on like thinking a moment, reeling it in. I'm not confronting before I speak.
Starting point is 00:20:51 And Joey King. You know if your, like, mom is yelling at your sibling, and even if you're annoyed with your sibling, you just, like, won't let that slide. It's like, only you can yell at your sibling. I'm like, you can't do that here. That is, you do not talk about her like that. Plus, we've been taking your calls,
Starting point is 00:21:08 listening to your voicemails and giving you advice. Or at least trying to. So if you've got catching up to do, now is the perfect time. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and held captive for nine months. I survived, and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart, and these are the Survivor Files.
Starting point is 00:21:36 I just remember this low, taunting voice next to my ear saying, shut up, don't say anything. Every week, I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable. I knew if he woke up, without a doubt, he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed, and I just started screaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. But these aren't stories about what's taken from them. There's stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to the Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:22:18 wherever you get your podcasts. On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinero, and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word Solita, trading the pity for possibility. Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people, and they were like, you smiled at us.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind, or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you're a solo. wherever you get your podcasts. By age 11 or so, at least 70% have a phone. Middle school is a different world than the one we grew up in.
Starting point is 00:23:27 I'm Dr. Joy, and this is therapy for black girls. We spend real time on it in our surviving middle school run, bringing in a child psychologist and a psychiatrist who's raising two black girls of his own to talk about what's really going on with our kids right now. So it's literally physiological and neurological and psychological and psychological chaos happening all this end up. We got into group chats and gaming, friendships and bullying,
Starting point is 00:23:51 and how to tell the difference between healthy monitoring and the kind of surveillance that erodes trust. There's belonging. You could think of belonging as I can be myself and I can still be accepted. And then there's fitting in. Spitting in says I have to change who I am in order to avoid rejection. Then we turn the conversation toward the fathers, sitting down with therapists Keer Gaines on Black fatherhood
Starting point is 00:24:13 and what it means to raise a daughter through this stage. You don't have more shorts, so you can't do flips. You have on the dressy. You have to cross your legs. That's the range of this run, from screen time to identity to the father's doing the work at home.
Starting point is 00:24:24 You have to get off her device. But the reality is there's a lot of lives out there that we don't want you as your adults in their lives to miss out on. This has been our surviving middle school run. Brought to you by the people who spend their careers thinking about exactly this. I'm Dr. Joy. Listen to therapy for black girls on the IHeart Radio app,
Starting point is 00:24:44 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Let me know whenever my bedroom is ready. You know, I just said, I just opened the door. You're coming in with pajamas. I know. And I want to know where your seasoning cabinets at. Where do you keep your hot sauce at? Please tell me, because if I'm going to be there.
Starting point is 00:25:01 My house is in the cabinet. Thank you. But I don't cook my guy cooks. Like, he's amazing. You know what he made yesterday? He made salmon. He fried lamb chops. He made ribs and he made ribby steak.
Starting point is 00:25:12 He made greens. He made cauliflower cassero. Oh, it was Labor Day. I'm like, why? But he likes, that's just how he likes to cook. He loves the cook. I love this for you. He cooks.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Because no matter how much you work, having that home feeling. Absolutely. Because you provide it for your son and for yourself for everybody. Having. But having it from someone who's providing it for you with everything that you're doing, like it is such a peace of mind. Absolutely. Like you need peace in the sea of chaotic stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:43 And somebody's saying, I want to be that peace. Like I asked him, I said, why do you think God sent you in my life? He said because he knew I can handle. handle the challenge. Like my guy is a rock. You could chip away at a rock, but it don't move. And that's what I love.
Starting point is 00:25:55 He don't move. And he's like, he's a foundation. Even in the Bible say, don't build your house on sand. Because it just moves. But he's a rock. And so, you know, he does that for me. And he makes it so I can go out and fly and be who I am.
Starting point is 00:26:10 He just, he goes, go out there and be. Be that, you know, and I do. I don't know the feeling. We had cocktails with cheers. Because I, yeah. Because we go out. We'll go out. All up there, I'm right there with you. Because you'll love him. He, he's cool.
Starting point is 00:26:23 And he ain't from, like, he ain't Hollywood. None of that. Not any of that. Same, same. So, you know. I'm going to show you about this. I'm going to. Because he, that's, that's a man right there.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Yeah, you know. That's a man right there. I know what I'm doing. I'm not, I've been napping. You know what you do. Well, somebody needs to sell envy because that's the conversation we had. Because envy didn't know how to please his wife, Gia for some time guys. But he was 16.
Starting point is 00:26:46 At 16. You don't know how to. Yeah, but I think she got mad in her adult life and said it. Yeah, because after 10 years, that's a long time. I don't know at what point or within what child. She was like, you know what I'm just tired of this? And you know what that was with Gia? He did something to make her man.
Starting point is 00:27:00 He didn't, yeah, I'm sorry. No, she was pissed. They came out in an argument. You came out in an argument, and that's when she was like that. Because holding that back for, orgasm back for 10 years, and it's, and, you know, you might be at the age, it's slipping away. Because orgasms slip away in different phases and be like, no, they come back. They do come back, but it's like, it's very strong in your 30s, in your 40s.
Starting point is 00:27:21 But sometimes, you know, you go through menopause and it goes away. Then it comes back. So when it goes away, what do you do? Then, you know, you just got to figure out other stuff. That's when you start liking, this is when you start going, I love being with my girlfriends. I find things that make me happy. And you like, the orgasms then slipped away. You just got to find them again.
Starting point is 00:27:39 You got to calm down. You got to stop stressing. And you find them again. Sometimes you need a coupchermal to help you out. A coochie mom. See, this is the type of mental. I'm talking about quichima and hot sauce and seasoning. A hot sauce, you don't need to get your orgasm back.
Starting point is 00:27:51 No, no, no. That's a whole... That's a freakier discussion. But sometimes you need a little help to get it back. You might need some patches, you know, like estrogen patches to get it back. Because as we get older, we lose... I thought the men just had to do that. No, we have to...
Starting point is 00:28:08 Like, we lose our estrogen. We lose the testosterone. And all of that goes into, like, sexual desire. So sometimes you have to, you know, get a little help from the doctor. Does it start for us? Yeah, pregnancy makes you not be able to orgasm? Well, not in Sierra's case. Not in Sierra's case.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Listen, I want my babies. This is her fifth child. Obviously, dim orgasms and pregnancy is just a turn on for Sierra. No. No, but some people being pregnant, you just got to give your body a chance to heal. That's all. Like, you know, men be jumping on you when you didn't have a baby, then you're pregnant again. But sometimes you just, sometimes you just have to rest and give your body like a reset.
Starting point is 00:28:45 our bodies are really tender so I don't think sometimes we push them too hard and they always come back they do now I don't know if they come back when you like 80 because you don't want to have no heart attack or anything like that I'm not there yet but I'm just saying when you old when you real old the morganza's got to be
Starting point is 00:29:01 they got to be real tender because you freaking have a stroke so all right all right didn't want to end on that thank you um orgasms do come back this has been the greatest job I've ever heard and they have ever heard here on the latest I don't know if an 80-year-old listening to the podcast.
Starting point is 00:29:16 They don't even know what the podcast is. They might. We might have three. They got grandkids. So if the grandkids are your grandmama is listening, let her know. Just say, Grandma, the orgasm is going to come back. She going to go, what, baby? Just say the grandma, the orgasms is coming back.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Won't you do it? Won't he do it? All right. Well, that has been my new roommate, Miss Sherry Sheppard on the latest with Lauren the Rosa. But no, honestly, though, like, you know, you are one of the people that I look at in this. And look at how you're moving and maneuvering. And that's it.
Starting point is 00:29:44 So happy to see you in a good place. And you were amazing on the view. You were so great. I loved it. I loved it. I just smiled the entire time. Because I was like, why? When you asked me, when you asked me a girl,
Starting point is 00:29:53 I was like, for what? What do you mean for what? Because they talk about like politics and stuff and that's not something I like do in this era of my life anymore. But you do your research and you're knowledgeable, which extends to everything. Yeah. That's who you are.
Starting point is 00:30:08 You make sure that people know the beginning, the end, and then the middle. That's what you do. Politics is. just another extension. When I got there though I was like oh this is what getting out the trenches feels like like this is this is nice over here. It's a whole world. They got two bathrooms. Yeah like that's where you go to a friend house who got both in the bathroom. Yeah it was nice. And see and that's
Starting point is 00:30:29 just a preview. Their team and yeah like a preview a snapshot of what God is showing you true is your future yeah that's what it is yes so enjoy it be present to it yes and he put you in it for a reason. Thank you. Cheers to us. So learn your politics. Now just, you know, I'd be knowing them, but I just, it's a slippery slope to veer into things. I'm always saying about platform and platform is so different. Yeah. TMZ was different. Like I, we could yell back and forth about so much, and no, I cared about me and what I was yelling about. Now it's like, oh yeah. And I'm watching, you know, Whoopi and Sunny and like their notes are prepared. And I'm like, I know they went through this with a publicist and a team. And then you see the reaction. After we left the show, I saw some of the
Starting point is 00:31:10 like just political reaction. I experienced it a bit with Charlemann when he does his donkey today, but when I saw that, I was like, oh, this is why he'd be yelling at me about my words mattering. Yes, absolutely. That's all he yells about.
Starting point is 00:31:22 And having a thick skin as well. Because, you know, when you're in that kind of, when you're in that kind of seat, you also have to know you can't please everybody. This is what Joy Behardt told me. The moment you open your mouth, half the world is going to hate you. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:34 So, you know, you can't be trying to please everybody. You can't take the weight of the world on your shoulders. You can't take the weight of black women on your shoulders. You can't take all of that. You're not designed to do it. As long as you know you're being true to yourself and true to the one who created you and gave you the position. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:52 You know, then you're all right. But you have to also have a thick skin. Yeah. Because that's, you know, with more opportunities and more responsibility, comes more negativity that will be aimed at you to knock you off your balance. So you can't take all of that end. Have you shown up with your wood cricket just confused? I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Otherwise, you'd be having so many breakdowns and so many, like, oh, my God, don't be reading all that stuff. I try. Yeah, and you're grown. Can I hug? I want a hug. I just open up the dog. Come give me a hug. Okay, y'all.
Starting point is 00:32:24 She's giving me a hug. So maybe I won't stay in her house too long. I'll just accept the hug. No, thank you. You're so proud of you. Thank you. This has been awesome. Keep doing what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you for answer all my calls always. Oh, you're welcome. You're welcome. Behind every night spent making the kids' lunches, there's a lot of suspense. Will they finally eat the veggies? Will the pastos survive the first bite?
Starting point is 00:32:48 Will the lunchbox come home empty, half full, or come home at all? And will you finish episode 8 before you're done slicing the cucumbers? Get Bell Pure Fiber Internet with Craved Netflix and Disney Plus from $94 a month. Price guaranteed for two years on internet with a two-year term and auto pay credit. Visit bell.ca for details and to check availability. Bell, connection is everything. Everyone, it's the Jonas Brothers with the Hey Jonas Podcast. We've been catching up with some great friends, Paul Rudd, Michael Bublay, Seth Myers, Nile Horan, Jake Shane.
Starting point is 00:33:17 And making some new friends while getting into what's really like to have sisters, like Alex and Ashton Earl. She likes to control everyone and tell everyone what to do it. Okay, well, control is a harsh word. I would say that's a harsh word. I am more outspoken. Growing up a lot of the times because she was so quiet. I would speak for like the both of us. Now I'm working on like thinking a moment, reeling it in, and thinking before I see.
Starting point is 00:33:39 speak. And Joey King. You know if your, like, mom is yelling at your sibling, and even if you're annoyed with your sibling, you just, like, won't let that slide. It's like, only you can yell at your sibling. I'm like, you can't do that here. That is not talk about her like that. Only I talk about her like that.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Plus, we've been taking your calls, listening to your voicemails and giving you advice. Or at least trying to. So if you've got catching up to do, now is the perfect time. Listen to Hey, Jonas, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the new podcast Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinheiro and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first.
Starting point is 00:34:31 I'm on a mission to reclaim the word Solita, trading the pity for possibility. Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people, and they were like, you smiled at us. Not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind, or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or a real show you. wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:35:10 When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and held captive for nine months. I survived, and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart, and these are the Survivor Files. I just remember this low, taunting voice next to my ear saying, shut up, don't say anything. Every week, I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable. I knew if he woke up, without a doubt, he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed, and I just started screaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced.
Starting point is 00:35:54 But these aren't stories about what's taken from them. There's stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to the Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. By age 11 or so, at least 70% have a phone. Middle school is a different world than the one we grew up in. I'm Dr. Joy, and this is therapy for black girls. We spend real time on it in our surviving middle school run,
Starting point is 00:36:23 bringing in a child psychologist and a psychiatrist who's raising two black girls of his own to talk about what's really going on with our kids right now. So it's literally physiological and neurological and psychological chaos happening all this end up. We got into group chats and gaming, friendships and bullying, and how to tell the difference between healthy monitoring and the kind of surveillance that erodes trust. There's belonging.
Starting point is 00:36:46 You could think of belonging as I can be myself and I can still be accepted. And then there's fitting in. Spitting in says I have to change who I am in order to avoid rejection. Then we turn the conversation toward the fathers, sitting down with therapist Keir Gaines on Black fatherhood and what it means to raise a daughter through this stage. You don't have more shorts, so you can't do flips.
Starting point is 00:37:07 You have on the dressy, up across your legs. That's the range of this run, from screen time to identity to the father's doing the work at home. You have to get off her device. But the reality is there's a lot of life out there that we don't want you as your adults in their lives to miss out on. This has been our surviving middle school run.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Brought to you by the people who spend their careers thinking about exactly this. I'm Dr. Joy. Listen to therapy for black girls on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Shout out to Sherry Shepherd. I mean, okay, her show, it's canceled some months ago. Since then, she has been on a sold-out comedy tour.
Starting point is 00:37:48 She just announced that she is going to be playing the genie and Aladdin on Broadway here in New York City. Make sure you guys come get your tickets got and see her there. But then she also has the Angel and the Rubble, which is going to be out this Saturday, September 12th. out this Saturday, September 12, which is a story commemorating the last survivor of 9-11, who was still alive, and Sherry
Starting point is 00:38:16 tells her story so beautifully in her role on that movie. So there's a lot to talk about with Sherry. There's a lot to support. There is a lot to go and do, make sure after watching this conversation, and here, I think this conversation shows you the cloth of Sherry Shepherd. You've got to be cut
Starting point is 00:38:32 from a certain cloth to not want to participate in something just because of the headlines and the clicks that it'll get you, but because your heart is telling you it don't make no sense to do so. Like, who am I to be an authority on that? And I appreciate, you know, people like Sherry. That's why I told her she will mentor y'all. We won't see what happens. This has been another episode of the latest with Lauren the Rosa. I tell you guys every single episode. Y'all could be anywhere with any old body, but you choose to be right here with me. My low riders, I appreciate you and I'll catch you in my next one. On the new podcast, Solita.
Starting point is 00:39:16 We share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinero and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word Solita, trading the pity for possibility. Listen to Solita on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I survived nine months in captivity, and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart, and these are the Survivor Files.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Every week, I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable, abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. These are stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to The Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If your bookshelf and your for-you page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. Pro Society is a weekly podcast
Starting point is 00:40:29 that's part book club, part group chat for anyone who thinks pride and prejudice and love island to serve the same level of discourse. Each week, we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and pop culture with your favorite writers, book talk creators, and plenty of overthought opinions. Yeah, I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Listen to Pro Society on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. Our hometown is not a test tube. 90 miles northeast of Nashville, a battle for the future of America, plays out in one small town. Developers with right-wing ties
Starting point is 00:41:02 have purchased hundreds of acres of land. We need cities on a shining hill. This is Our Town, a podcast about what happens when a small town becomes the site of a social experiment and fights back. Guess you didn't move in on a bunch of dumb hillbillies now, did you?
Starting point is 00:41:17 Listen to Our Town on the Eye Heart Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So by age 11 or 11 or so, at least 70% have a phone. I'm Dr. Joy, and this is Therapy for Black Girls. We spend our surviving middle school run getting into what's happening inside your kids' brain, the group chat, and their friendships, and what you can do about it. Your child is not doing this on purpose. That's the kind of perspective we've been pulling from the psychologists and psychiatrists
Starting point is 00:41:47 who studied this for a living. Listen to Therapy for Black Girls on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.

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