The Breakfast Club - Who's On Drugs ( Dr Carl Hart interview)

Episode Date: February 26, 2021

Today on the show we had Dr Carl Hart, on the show who spoke about changing America's perception on hard drugs and using them safely, but DJ Envy and Charlamagne were not convinced. In fact they opened up the phone lines to see what our listeners thought about his comments in the interview. Also, Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to Illinois State Rep who wanted to ban violent video games to reduce carjackings. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We here. Good morning. What's happening? Good morning. How y'all feel, man? I'm good, man. How you guys feeling? I'm blessed, black, and highly favored. Highly under the influence of Fredro Bang. I'm so mad at...

His name is Fredo Bang? Fredo. Well, I just, you know, I'm so mad at all my folks in my life who did not put me up on Fredo earlier. Oh, Fredo dope. No, Fredo is dope. That album is hard, but that top remix, oh my God. Mama, I'm a stepper. Yeah, with Lil Durk, that's right. I can't walk by fate every day I

wake up to some brand new hate you should listen to the mix more man you'd hear songs like that if you would do it live like you used to and I'd be sitting in here listening to music out here exactly gave up on it if you refuses to ever DJ live ever ever ever ever when I'm mad at people for not telling me about Fredo Bang earlier. And don't try to talk to me about him now because y'all wasn't talking to me about him before. Dan Nelson managed Fredo Bang or does he? Remember? I don't know.

Salute to Daniel though. He's not a deaf champ, but I'm not sure. Our white producer in here. He's one of our top. White producer putting me on. Fredo Bang is one of our top five lip service interviews. I love that record, though. I really do.

I got problems with some... It's because I won't be fake. Love it. I got my first shot of the vaccine yesterday. So, why are you looking at me like that? I'm just looking to see where the beard gonna grow from now. Looks like the beard growing out his neck

this morning. Am I chirping? No, man. He's stupid, man. It looks like the beard growing out of his neck this morning. Am I chirping? No, man. No hair coming out of my neck. I don't know. It looks like the Beijing on your throat. Touch it, Drum. Touch his throat.

Let me see if it's ink or hair. What are you talking about? Yeah, so I took the first shot of the vaccine, Moderna. You look a little weak this morning, man. Moderna shot. Moderna shot. You look a little weak. Why are your eyes red?

Shut up. You look low in red. What's wrong, man? Shut up. You got a little weak. Why are your eyes red? Shut up. They look low in red. What's wrong, man? Shut up. You got a fever? We'll be watching you. I got to go back on the 25th of next month to get my second shot. Why are your eyes twitching?

Yeah, what's wrong with you, man? What's wrong with you? Nothing's wrong with good money, man. Now, how did you manage to get the shot? The same reason I told you guys yesterday. He's elderly. A pharmacy. You know, at the end of the the day a lot of these pharmacies

and hospitals and testing places uh vaccine places i should say they have to use it if they don't use it it goes bad so i was just waiting around and like i did yesterday and yesterday the essential worker came uh well the day before an essential worker came yesterday no essential worker came and i was the only one there about to uh get rid of it so they gave it to me got so that's how i got the shot so you was just hanging out outside the pharmacy waiting for leftover drugs basically yeah pretty much all right well speaking of drugs we got a great guest this morning yes his name is dr. Carl Hart yes I enjoyed dr. Carl Hart's conversation yes he is the doctor that I

don't say he's a is he a functioning heroin user? I guess he is a function functioning heroin User he uses drugs. He has a book out called drug use for grown-ups chasing liberty in the land of fear, right? Yes So he talks about his drug use him using heroin and some other drugs and how he's functioning how he's still a professor and He's an American neuroscientist, but he studies drugs. So what he tells you to do, the average person probably

couldn't do. He took heroin because he studies it. And he studies the effects on the brain. So he also wanted to see what withdrawal would be like. And he knows how to micro-dose. But it's a lot of things that you might not do because you're not an expert.

Yeah, what you should do anyway. Yeah, I don't think heroin is a drug that you should be doing recreationally. No, no. It's just not. No, there's a lot of drugs. I mean, I don't think you should be doing crack recreationally. Absolutely not.

I think you should be pulling up with a bag of crack. But he talks about his drug use. He wrote a book about it. He's a professor. But we're not here to judge, just because we may not necessarily agree. But we will have the conversation with him this morning. I just can't get into the mode of telling people just say yes. That's just...

Yeah, I'm with the mode of no. Don't try it. Don't use it. It's not okay. What if you're in a hospital and they prescribe it? I've never heard of prescribed heroin. Prescribed what? Heroin? in the hospital and they prescribe it I've never prescribed heroin describe what heroin yeah what did it crack heroin for well not crack but heroin yeah morphine they do type of opioids people get people get addicted to those like the opioid death rate is through the

roof right now opioid overdose death rate is through the roof right now you know I do a lot of real estate and we do a lot of real estate in messed up areas. And I would say 70 to 80% of the time when I walk in these houses, you will see a heroin fiend in there and needles everywhere. And then when you have conversations with them, they usually come from a great family or a nice family or a lot

of times family with money, but they got addicted and they can't get out. They just can't stop and they have to continue to have this drug. This drug took their life over and they went to rehab and they can't get out. They just can't stop. And they have to continue to have this drug. This drug took their life over. And they went to rehab and they can't get out. They can't kick it. They can't beat it.

So I've seen it. I had family members that OD'd on drugs. I don't play with drugs. I'm not even trying. Like, no. Heroin is the most addictive and it's the hardest to get off. But to your point, when you've seen a dope head, you're not going to encourage nobody to do that recreationally or otherwise. But we'll talk about it.

Alright, front page news, what are we talking about? Well, let's talk about the X-Team USA gymnastics coach, John Geddert. He is dead. We'll tell you what happened. Everything in truth is amazing. Everybody high this morning? Everybody high? I don't know, they started talking to me.

Our cameraman looked at me and said, why do you even talk about Mars? I said, what? And he said, we landed looked at me and said, why do you talk about Mars? I said, what? And he said, we landed on Mars. I said, what are you talking about? Goodness gracious. All right. Well, let's get some front page news.

Where we start? Well, let's start with John Geddet, the coach of the legendary 2012 Team USA gymnastics team. Now, he was charged with multiple counts of human trafficking and sexual assault. He faces up to life in prison. And he's 63 years old, but they say he should not be celebrated as some great coach. He actually sexually assaulted an unidentified person in 2012 who was between the ages of 13 and 16. But the charges he's facing, 20 counts of human trafficking, two counts of sexual assault, one count of racketeering and one count of lying to a peace officer.

Well, now he is dead according to state officials and they said he took his own life after sexual assault charges were filed against him. Gunshot wound. They said he died yesterday afternoon. I never even heard of him until just now. He actually has ties to Larry Nassar. You know him. That was the tennis, no, Olympic coach? Well, Nassar was the team

doctor for the gymnastics team. Yeah, he was the doctor. So he, yeah, they have some ties with each other too, so he's no longer here. Alright, a survey shows that 38% of Americans would give up sex if they could travel again. They would give up sex for a year

in order to be able to travel again. No. Not me. Not me. I love traveling to have sex with my wife. That's what I love. I love having sex in exotic places. If I travel, I'm taking my wife with me. We have a sex there anyway. 100%. Well,

you guys could also have connections in other ways too. We do. You could travel together and not have sex and just have great, deep conversations. How much fun is that? I'm not with that. I would venture to say that those 38% of people probably weren't having sex anyway. How much sex are they having prior to them giving it up? That's what I would like to know.

Some people are like, man, I haven't traveled in a year. I need to go somewhere. I haven't traveled in a year, but I'm good. Yeah, I would much rather my destination be my wife's vagina. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm fine with that. All right. The Senate has ruled against including the increase in the minimum wage in the COVID relief bill.

They decided that last night. How much? When they ruled against it. Oh, they ruled against it? Yeah, $15 an hour. So what they are saying is they believe that they do believe that it will pass easier. The COVID relief bill without the minimum wage in it. But of course, Democrats feel like, no, we need to have this in the bill. It's very important.

And Republicans are the ones that are against it. So Biden is disappointed in this outcome. He proposed having the $15 minimum wage as part of the American Rescue Plan. And he respects their decision and the Senate's process, but they still want to make sure that bill gets passed. Yeah, I got to talk to somebody way smarter than me on this because I thought Democrats had control of the Senate. I thought Kamala Harris was the tiebreaker and all of that type of stuff.

Don't you have to have like two thirds or something? I don't know. That's why I got to talk to somebody smarter than me. I have no idea. All right. Well, that is your front page news all right get it off your chest 800-585-1051 if you need to vent hit us up right now phone lines are wide open it's the breakfast club good morning the breakfast club is your country falling apart feeling Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this.

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beyond the run and get into the heart of it all it's lighthearted pretty crazy and very fun listen to post run high on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts this is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. Hello, who's this? Hey, what's going on, man? I want to stay anonymous if I can. This is kind of a personal situation. It's the radio, sir.

We can't see you. Just give us a fake name. What would you want your name to be, if you could choose any name? Mike. Say Mike. Hey, Mike. What's happening? Good morning, Mike.

Mike, get it off your chest, Mike. Man, look, What's happening? Good morning, Mike. What's up, Mike? Get it off your chest, Mike. Man, look, I've been going through it, man. I'm trying to secure a place to live, man, and I'm 29 years old. I have a good credit score. I have money for a down payment and for, you know, closing costs and stuff, but I can't find nobody to help me. What do you mean? I mean, I don't have the income to get the house and i've

been in a wheelchair for the past 10 years going through rehabilitation after getting shot and you know open heart surgery and stuff like that so i haven't had um the work history that everybody's asking me for and man i got seven months left on my lease i'm paying eighteen hundred dollars rent a month and my rental history doesn't even matter. And I'm about to be on the street with my three kids. I'm a stepfather to three kids. You know what I'm saying? Well, what money do you have coming in monthly?

Do you have income coming in monthly? Yeah, I mean, I'm on government assistance. You know what I'm saying? But they don't give me nearly enough for them to approve me for a loan. Right, well, see, that's the thing. If any bank won't give you a loan, I mean, as far as what you make, there's different ways they can do a loan right well see that's the thing if any bank won't give you a loan i mean as far as what you make there's different ways they can do a loan they can actually do it as far as checking your deposit to see how much you actually deposit a month but you got to show some

money coming in you just can't say i can afford this house trust me like you got to have some type of income coming in where you can show the lenders that it's okay that you can pay that loan though yeah i mean i've been trying and it's like i'm going everywhere i can to get a job believe me but even if i get a job right now nobody's hiring for kovic you know i've been trying my best man but like i got seven months man i'm gonna be on the street and i know there's somebody out there that can help me out to finance me i have money coming in from the government how much money you got coming in from the government about 800 a month.

So how do you pay the rest of your rent, the rest of the $1,000 for your rent? I mean, I have people that help me out and stuff. You know, I do side hustle on the side whenever I can. And, you know, I just try to make money as much as possible throughout the weeks to come. But every month, you know, paying $1,800 a month is crazy. And if I had a house, I wouldn't pay nearly that much. Nah, I mean, yeah, because if you had a house, but you know what you could do? Let me

put you on the line with Matt, because what they can do is they can do an asset lending. And asset lending is pretty much saying if you buy, purchase a two-family house, you make the money off of the other apartments, and that's how you pay your part of the rent. Maybe that's an option for you, especially since you have the down payment and everything already and enough for the closing cost. So hold on. Let me put you on the line with one of my peoples and see if they can help you.

Thank you. I don't know. I don't know if they can. But I mean, it might be a good way to go because, you know, that way you could say the two apartments pay your rent and pay your mortgage. And then you just live in the on the last apartment with your family. That might be an option. I wouldn't do anything because, like I said, I got three kids and a wife, man. I don't want to be on the street. I don't want to lose my family. I mean, this is my life right now.

Hold on, brother. Thank you. All right. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up right now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.

This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Okay, what's up? Get it off your chest. Let me tell you something. There's a famous celebrity from the 40s that looks like a combination of you, Envy, and Charlamagne.

I want to know if you ever heard of a celebrity named Rex Ingram. Never heard of Rex Ingram. No, I never heard of him. Have you ever heard of the name Sabu? Nope. That's a famous Indian actor who used to do the reggae nights and stuff like that. There was a genie. His name is Rex Ingram.

When he opens up the bottle, he looks exactly like a combination of you and Envy. More you, Charlamagne. He has your sculpted eyebrows and stuff. You got to check him out. So let me go look at this handsome man. Let me Google him. Thank you, Mama. I don't know. That man don't look nothing like me.

Nothing like me. Knock it off. Look at him in the TV. I'm looking at him right now. He was an actor. I'm looking at him right now. He was an actor in the 1800s. 1895, he was born.

We kind of old, but we don't look like that, though. Died in 1969. Jelly Belly from Boston. Hey, Jelly Belly. Get it off your chest, Jelly Belly. Okay, I have a question for Charlamagne, right? Yes, Jelly Belly. So when you started therapy, do you remember the first interview that you did that you transformed and you realized you changed? Ooh.

I don't. I would have to give it some thought. For some reason, YG popped in my head just now because I remember having a conversation with YG about therapy when he was here. I think this was after Nipsey passed, maybe. I'm not sure. But you know what? That Nipsey moment, I realized I had changed, too, because I never thought I would have empathy for the person who actually killed Nipsey.

You know what I mean? Right, right. I looked at that brother, and I was like, man, that brother had to be in some real pain. He had to be dealing with some real trauma to do that to Nipsey. Not just shoot him, but kick him the way that he did. That moment, I definitely felt the

real change. Absolutely. Okay, and what about he and Envy? Did you guys see a change after his therapy session that you guys were scared afterwards? Charlamagne Knight, I would say this. He got more kinkier. So I could tell that he needed some more love.

I guess he wanted more self-love and more outside love. So he comes in asking for more hugs. He stands behind me more. I do see that. I've been going to therapy, though, since 2016. Thank you, Mama. No, no, no. That's fine. Lead with love. That's all. That's all I got to say been going to therapy, though, since 2016. Thank you, Mama. No, no, no. That's fine.

Lead with love. That's all. That's all I got to say. Lead with love, everybody. All love. Thank you. Thank you. Hello, who's this?

Hey, this is Brad. Caller from Dallas. Brad, what's up from Dallas, man? Get it off your chest. First of all, I want to say good morning to Angela Yee. Good morning. Charlamagne Tha God, DJ Everyman. I love what y'all do.

Thank you, sir. I'm a veteran, man. I'm labeled 50% disabled from the military. I've been trying to purchase a home for the past six years, man, six, seven years. I'm unable to do it, man. I raised my credit from 540 all the way to 780. And in October, man, for some reason, Capital One placed that I missed a payment or something like that. And my credit dropped from 780 to like 640.

And right now I raised it right back up to 710. And it's just hard for me to get a loan, man. I don't know what to do. Well, you hold on the line. I got a credit due that I get your credit back up to 710. And it's just hard for me to get a loan, man. I don't know what to do. Well, you hold on the line. I got a credit due that'll get your credit back up. And then it's just a matter of finding a property. Do you have income coming in? Oh, yeah, man.

I work. My wife works. I get income from the military. So the income is not a problem. Okay. All right. And then, yeah, we should be able to find. This is your first time purchasing a home?

First time, man. Oh, yeah. So you're qualifying the FHA regulations. All right. You hold on, and I'll put you on my guy that could possibly get you a loan. I want to say this to this brother, too, man. This is why America pisses me off, because this is a veteran who, you know, was on the front lines for our country. I feel like all veterans should get free health care.

You should get free room on board, right? And you should get a stipend every month to take care of whatever your needs are. You should be getting taken care of for the rest of your life. You should not be in this position at all. Yeah, I thought they had special programs for veterans. I know in Detroit they do.

They have special programs for veterans and then they have FHA loans where he would only have to put down 3% or 3.5%. I'll get you with a mortgage guy that can help you out and hopefully he can get you point you in the right direction. I definitely appreciate that, man. God bless y'all, man. His name is Matt. I'm going to put you

on with Matt. Matt's the guy that gets a lot of people loans. He does a charge. I appreciate it, man. Alright, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. That's the reason why I do those seminars to try to teach people so people don't go in the wrong direction. And you can help people get loans. And there's different ways. And the people that I'm around are way smarter than me when it comes to real estate. And I can ask them and they know ways. And they've been able to do this a million times before.

And the next seminar we're doing is in Atlanta on March 14th, where we break it down everywhere from vets to FHA loans to first-time homebuyers to investment properties to multi-units to all that. We bring everybody from credit repair to attorneys to contractors to conventional lending to hard money lending. We break it all down because we really try to help people. I know Drom has been to one of the seminars, and he recently purchased his crib. And we just try to help as many people as possible because I want to see people, you know, owning

their own homes instead of renting. So, hopefully we'll see you guys in Atlanta on the 14th. Alright. Now we got rumors on the way? Yes, and we'll be talking about Mike Tyson. He wants you to boycott Hulu. We'll tell you why. Alright. We'll get into that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.

She's spilling the tea. This is The Rumor Report with Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. Well, Mike Tyson wants you to boycott Hulu. Now, he put out a statement on his Instagram page. He said, diversity, and inclusion, like Hulu's Black Stories playlist that recommends stories about black culture to viewers on the app. Yet behind closed doors, they steal stories from the black community, all because they are doing an unauthorized miniseries of the Tyson story without compensation. Yeah, I never understood unauthorized books or documentaries or movies about people. Like, how can someone just make something about you, use your name, your story, your

likeness, and not compensate you? I your name, your story, your likeness and not compensate you. I've never understood that. I never understood that either. Mm-hmm. Well, Mike Tyson is, by the way, doing his own authorized

autobiography, too. That story is in development, so it will be coming in, coming out soon. But there's nothing you can do about it, right? I see. There's always something

you can do, I'm sure. I'm sure it's some type of legal action. I think people don't be wanting to go down that road because these networks got so much goddamn money. You know what I mean? And these companies you're trying to go up against got so much money, but I don't get it. You think people would boycott Hulu? I don't see why not. Why not?

You just want to make sure we put it out there? Because Dave Chappelle clearly did it. You know, even with the Dave Chappelle situation, it's different, right? Because it was his show. Yeah, but everybody said he boycotted it. But also what really helped Dave was HBO Max removing it and Netflix removing it. You think people would have boycotted it if those shows were still up there without those networks taking that down? I think it's easier. Well, I think he said it because he didn't want people to watch it.

So he told them, don't watch it, don't't stream it because it was on for a little while and then when they they probably also weren't going to make any money from it too yeah i think it helps when the network uh supports the artist supports the creative all right now nikki minaj her barbs are sending death threats to claudia jordan wow i know All right, so this is what Claudia Jordan said. And, you know, she has her show on Fox Soul. And she was telling a story about running into Meek Mill

and Nicki Minaj. Here's what she said. Meek got upset about someone trying to take a picture of them in a restaurant. But I'm like, it's Nicki Minaj, the biggest rapper of all time

at the time, and Meek Mill's like, they're a hot celebrity rap couple. And of course, someone's going to try to take a picture. And he like made a scene. And Meek Mills, like they're a hot celebrity rap couple. And of course, someone's going to try to take a picture. And he like made a scene. And I remember feeling pretty, like kind of bad for Nikki.

She was like, yo, okay. She pointed at Nikki. She was trying to like control her guy. Like, just chill, just chill. And he was just like, I see you, I see you. And we were one table over.

It was like super uncomfortable. What did she say that was bad? The part where she said Nikki was, I guess the hottest. And then she said at that time. Oh. she say that was bad? The part where she said Nicki was, I guess, the hottest and then she said at that time. Oh. You know what's funny? I saw when this first happened and I was like, oh, the Barbz are going to be mad. I didn't hear that

until you just said it. But that's what they were mad about and she wasn't trying to insult Nicki Minaj. No, as Jay-Z said before, that you're only going to be like that white, hot artist once. You know what I'm saying? You can always be consistently hot, but that time when it's your moment, you know, that's a few years.

Well, the barbers were sending out death threats. Listen to what Claudia had to say. Y'all be doing a little death threats and I'm going to spit on you when I see you because you talked about Meek Mills. And I found you was trying to shade her in your compliment. Claudia can definitely tell her story because it's her story to tell. But what was the context?

What was the reason she was telling the story? She was talking about Meek Mill and how he was a little acting out. So in the course of the story, she's talking about seeing Nikki and Meek out together and how Meek was really upset and kind of embarrassing Nikki. So that was it. She wasn't trying to insult Nicki Minaj, but they took it that way. All right.

Notori is going to be co-lead opposite Eve in a new ABC show. The ABC hour-long pilot is called Queens. So it's four strange and out-of-touch women in their 40s reuniting for a chance to recapture their fame and regain the swagger they had as the Nasty Bitches. It was a group in the 90s that made them And regain the swagger they had. As the nasty bitches.

It was a group in the 90's that made them legends in the hip hop world. What? So what? She not going to be on power no more? She is still. They said she is still going to be. She's no longer a series regular. Yep. Sounding to me like some mighty character might be getting killed off. But she is they said going to reprise her role.

In some fashion down the road. So I don't know. What's happening on the next season. Of course, they're not going to tell you. Yeah, because they're shooting a new season of Ghost Now, I believe. So we shall see. So congratulations to my girl, Notori. Also, Tyler Perry has another drama that's going to be at BET Plus, and it's called All the Queen's Men. And it's going to follow the female owner of an upscale strip club in Atlanta who is savvy and charming.

They said they're going to be shooting that in Georgia, in Atlanta. Okay. All right, Britney Spears. Her mom has denied calling Columbus Short the N-word. Now, he had done an interview and he was talking about the incident that happened. He was a backup dancer for Britney Spears, by the way,

and he had choreographed her tour back in 2004. He was on Jazzy Bell's YouTube show Inside Hollywood earlier this month, and he said this. Like, I wasn't shocked when it happened. Look where they're from. They're from Louisiana, just because they're in Hollywood. You know, they have black bodyguards. Don't mean that they don't behind closed doors use that word. And the way it came out was so effortless did you ever felt that britney spears was racist well after that i felt like maybe she was using me to piss them off for some reason but i don't know no i think she is a really sweet person that was tormented i liken it to like princess diana she was the pop princess of this of. Yeah, I just pulled it up on Us Weekly. You know, her mom replied. I know, I got it right here.

She said, nigga, please, I would never. That's not what she said? No, her mom, Lynn Spears, denied it and she said, I want to be very clear, those terrible words are not remotely in my vocabulary. She said that to the New York Post, page 6. I would never say that to anyone, much less

my daughter ever. He has it in his book, too, by the way. All right, well, that is your rumor report. All right, now we got front page news. Next, what are we talking about? Yes, let's talk about this George Floyd police reform bill. House Democrats have reintroduced that bill. Finally.

All right, we'll get into that next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Billy Jean, Billy Jean. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Gee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get into front page news. Where are we starting, Yeezy? Oh, I wanted to clarify something earlier. I know Charlamagne had a question about the minimum wage and the COVID relief bill. Well, they have ruled against even putting that in the bill for COVID relief.

That's why it's not in it. It's not that it didn't pass. It's just that they ruled that they couldn't put it in the actual COVID relief package, that bill. They'll have to do that separately. So that's why it's not there. It's not that it was voted on. All right, now, House Democrats also reintroduced policing legislation

that is named in honor of George Floyd, the George Floyd Justice and Policing Act of 2021. That's what the bill is called. They want to overhaul qualified immunity for law enforcement and prohibitions on racial profiling on the part of law enforcement and a ban on no-knock warrants in federal drug cases. They could vote on this proposal as soon as next week. Yeah, finally. You know, the George Floyd Policing Act, making weed legal, decriminalizing weed, whatever it is. Those are some things I thought, you know, they would have knocked out of the park ASAP because those are things that they actually were running on.

You know, those were reasons they were telling us we should vote. If you want the George Floyd Policing Act, if you want, you know, marijuana legalized, vote Democrat. So they should have knocked that out of the park early. Hopefully it gets done next week. Joe Biden posted on Twitter, I'm pleased that the House will vote next week on the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act. I encourage the House to pass it. Following Senate consideration, I hope to be able to sign it into law, a landmark police reform bill.

So I know he came in and did all these things immediately, but the main thing is you want to make sure that it becomes an actual law so that it's not something the next president can overturn. All right, now let's discuss this supposed object that could have been a UFO. The FBI is looking into an encounter with the UFO that was flying over New Mexico. That flight was American Airlines

headed to Phoenix from Cincinnati. Here is what they said. Do you have any targets up here? We just had something go right over the top of us. I hate to say this, but it looked like a long cylindrical object. It almost looked like a cruise missile type of thing moving really fast. It went right over the top of us. The wheel!

Listen, it's time. I mean, listen, man. You know, I'm an avid believer in extraterrestrials simply because you cannot look at this planet Earth and look at all the diversity of life on this Earth and think that the universe is not as diverse. I mean, you got humans here and fish and animals and birds in the sky, all types of stuff. You think that the universe is not as diverse? Come on. You think we're the smartest life forms in all of these galaxies? Please.

Didn't you have an incident also? I've definitely seen a UFO before. Saw a UFO in third grade. No, you said somebody abducted you. I've been abducted before as well. Right. How did you skip over that but talk about this scene? I mean, I've had a bunch of them.

What was his name? Tell us the story. I actually wrote a book called Black Privilege. Opportunity comes to those who create it. It's a New York Times bestseller. I detail these experiences in depth. They said you had two holes in your... I had two scars on both shins.

They were in the exact same place. They were the exact same length. You just on your knees. Woke up in the morning with them there. That was recently, though. That was in the past five years, five, six years. Absolutely. All right.

But you know what? Listen, I see the looks on your face. I can't wait to see the looks on y'all face I can't wait to see the looks on y'all face when y'all realize aliens are real extraterrestrials are real and they looking at us

like we were aliens the whole time they gonna look at you and be like whatever that is on your face isn't natural we've been studying

humans for years and that black stuff on your face that doesn't come naturally shout to Kevin Hart shout to Khaled shout to Diddy shout to my brothers

and that is your front page news you want everybody to get a Beijing conspiracy charge Naturally. Shout out to Kevin Hart. Shout out to Khaled. Shout out to Diddy. Shout out to my brothers. Boy, I swear to God, boy. And that is your front page news. You want everybody to get a Beijing conspiracy charge. What are you talking about? You bring it down the whole Beijing quarter. I can't sell my brothers out. My God. What are we going into next?

Goodness gracious. Let them die in peace. Shout out to my brothers. Now, when we come back, Dr. Carl Hart will be joining us. That's a good transition. Why? From one thing to the other. Go ahead.

Now, Dr. Carl Hart, I guess he's an avid heroin user. I guess it's a good transition because beam me up, Scotty. You know what I mean? He gets high. All right, off heroin. Yes. Okay? He has a book out called Drug Use for Grownups, Chasing Liberty in the Land of Fear.

And don't just call him a drug user. He's a professor of neuroscience and psychology at Columbia University. just call him a drug user. He's a professor of neuroscience and psychology at Columbia University. Who called him a drug user? He did. But I was starting. He was an avid drug user. He's a professor at Columbia University. And by the way, the first line in his book

is, he says, I'm an avid drug user. I'm an unapologetic drug user. I don't want to just define him as just that, though. He's just a regular, you know, he studies it. But that's not... Just the way he said it. Dr. Carhartt, he's an avid drug user.

Coming up next. Yeah, he's an avid drug user. That's how he's feeling himself. That's what he tells himself. He uses heroin. What makes him qualified to write a book is he's also a neuroscientist. And he's known for his research on drug abuse and drug addiction. There we go.

However you want to say it. He's an avid drug user that teaches at Columbia University. We're going to talk to him next. However y'all want to put it out there, all right? He's a heroin user. We're going to talk to him. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

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Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. We got a special guest in the building today. Yes, indeed. Dr. Carl Hard, Columbia University professor. Welcome, sir. Thank you for having me. Good morning, sir. Tell them a little bit more about yourself. I'm a professor at Columbia. I also teach. I mean, work at the New York State Psychiatric Institute where I'm a research scientist. I've been doing that for about 25 years. Before that, I was at Yale. And before that, I was at the University of California, San Francisco.

Now, we talked about you earlier this week because you were all over the news. You got a book out. And you were talking that you are an admitted heroin user. We'll get to the book first. Just say what was all over the news. And I saw you on that crack documentary also.

I saw him on that crack like Jesus Christ. It's great. You should watch it if you guys haven't seen it yet. But the book is called Drug Use for Grownups, Chasing Liberty in the Land of Fear. Explain that title. The real action is in the subtitle, Chasing Liberty in the Land of Fear. I use drugs as a topic to explore our own liberty. I'm a drug expert, so I use drugs. And I was trying to point out to people that the

Declaration of Independence, for example, guarantees all of us three birthrights, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Correct. As long as you don't mess with anybody else's ability to do the same. Now, what that means is that you can live your life however you choose. And I was using drugs as a topic. It's like, why should people care what you put in your body as long as you are a good person? And so in exploring this topic this past week, I realized that I'm an example of how moralistic we are, regardless of what kind of person you are. People will attack you if you engage in certain behaviors that have been deemed evil. Whether there was a time when homosexuality was the case,

there was a time when black people were being attacked for just being black. Now, drugs, crack, or heroin is the evil thing to engage in. Because those things hurt people, including the person using them. You know what I mean? Yeah, great question. I didn't ask a question, but I made a statement. thing to engage in because those things hurt people including the person using them you know what i mean yeah great question so i didn't ask a question but i think you made a statement well i was trying to save you right because on the one hand uh you should know that heroin is a medication that is approved for treatment heroin and morphine are essentially the same drug point is is that heroin is a perfectly good pain reliever.

It also induces euphoria and a wide range of effects that we desire, like pleasure. So when you say that it doesn't harm you, certainly it can harm you. If people overdo it and they don't know what they're doing, yeah, they certainly can be harmed. Just like when you drive a car. But is it addictive though?

Is heroin addictive it is heroin addictive uh is heroin addictive certainly can be addictive you drink alcohol not really well people drink alcohol alcohol is addictive in my book i'm trying to help people to understand what makes things addictive not the substance itself because as much as 75 of the people who use heroin are not addicted they don't have any problem when you see this you say if most of the people who use heroin are not addicted. They don't have any problem. When you see this, you say, if most of the people who use that drug or any other drug for that matter are not addicted, then you have to look beyond the drug itself. And in this book, I'm trying to tell people what those factors are that increases someone's likelihood of becoming addicted. I'm fascinated by this conversation. What are your drugs of choice? What are your drugs of choice?

What are my drugs of choice? Yeah. So like that kind of question, for example, it's like saying, what's your favorite sexual position? It's a private thing. Well, no, you put it in the book. You said you do heroin. You said you do heroin.

No, no, no, no. Hold on. I put a lot of things in the book. I said that I have done heroin. For example, like in the past week, the media, I think it's been said, I do heroin every day. I inject and so forth.

That's what they made it seem like. All that is just untrue. You know, we're in a pandemic. How can I get heroin in this pandemic? At least I can't. And any heroin I ever used was pharmaceutically grade heroin. I don't do drugs that are bought off the street. That's stupid.

You know, I published this year alone. So where do they sell heroin? If it's not in Patterson, Brooklyn, or the Bronx. United States ain't the only country, you know. I travel a lot. In this book, I travel to five different continents. And heroin is available on pharmaceutical grade in many of these countries in which I travel to. So people, they have this idea of someone who uses heroin is some poor soul who is injecting the drug and is a slave to the drug and they think that heroin is the reason for that person's problem because

that person definitely exists but isn't that the person's problem is not so much heroin as everything else like the person might have co-occurring psychiatric illnesses the person might have had some traumatic stuff that's happened to their life can i ask you a question absolutely i always hear people say well i'm chasing that high i got the first time that i use it is that a real thing because i've heard so many people say that on documentaries yeah i know because we are willing to accept that right um it's certainly true like just think of the first time you enjoyed an orgasm it's like it was amazing uh for me the first time it's like am i chasing the first time i had an orgasm no of course not

but although i like that feeling i like that orgasm can't kill me what the orgasm can't kill you certainly can't get killed i mean you think about sexual transatlantic diseases and and so forth again the title of the book is drug use for grown-ups i'm trying to have a grown-up conversation about drugs and that's what but that's why we're asking because you know we don't know like for instance would you consider yourself addicted to heroin or when is the last time you use heroin uh more than a year ago i i don't know okay but this is the thing because the press makes it seem like you use it every morning, like you pop up. For the past five years. You click open the fireplace.

But that's why we have you here. I want you to know we're not judging you in any way. We're bringing you here to have the conversation. Trust me, I appreciate it and I know it. What is the message you're trying to get across in drug use for grownups? All right, so you all know A$AP Yams, right? Yes. And you know he died from what was termed a drug overdose, right?

Yes. When that brother died, his mom contacted me and she gave me his toxicology report and showed me what was in the system. And it appears that he may have died from a combination of opioids and other sedatives. Now, for years, I have been writing that if you're going to use opioids, don't combine it with other sedatives like alcohol. People like promethazine don't combine your opioids with those drugs because it increases the likelihood of respiratory depression. So I made a promise to her that I would do everything i could to educate the public about this and that's one of the main messages from the book and this is the message that the new york post does not say and that's why i am it upsets me so much when i have nothing but love and compassion and people are attacking me yeah i'm not gonna lie. I'm watching your body language and I see you shaking.

I'm like, okay, is he going through a withdrawal or is he upset about something? Give me a break, man. I'm being honest. Come on, man. You're upset, clearly. Yeah, you know, it's like, first of all, I have too much respect for you. Too much respect for you and too much respect for you not to come here

and be correct. Alright, we have more with Dr. Carhart Hart when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We have Dr. Carl Hart. We're still kicking it with him.

Would you want your children to indulge in drug use? Because growing up, I see you from Miami, you're from a poverty-stricken area. You've sold drugs, you've used drugs as a kid, you engaged in petty crimes but you know one thing growing up the first thing your parents say is don't use drugs would you advise your kids to use drugs and tell your kids about using drugs it's like saying would you advise your kids to have sex right uh you know why is sex always the correlation because everybody i hope has had sex but i'm trying to marry i'll tell you and my kids are getting married yeah and sex is pleasurable so when you said would you advise your kids to engage in drugs and But if my kids are getting married, yeah, you say, I want them to have sex. And sex is pleasurable.

So when you said, would you advise your kids to engage in drugs? And I wouldn't advise them, but that's not my concern whether they do it or not. My concern is keeping them safe. So my kids... Telling them to wear a condom. Exactly. Don't buy it off the street. Exactly, bro.

Don't buy it off the street. Exactly. off the street exactly bro don't buy it off the street exactly because the the most dangerous thing about drugs to most people who are black and brown is not the drugs it's the police and so that's why i would really tell people don't you don't know what's in it sometimes too but i tell my kids that's a great point man you don't know what's in it but you tell your kids don't use drugs like i told my kids don't use it i'm not going to tell them go to the store where you know what's in the drug i'm just saying don't use it at all people used to be like that about marijuana too they used to be like don't smoke weed it's terrible now it's illegal but i'm telling my kids can we come back to your point

please yes the point you made was if what we don't know what's in these substances on the street you're absolutely right so the country says we're in an opioid crisis one thing that is true we certainly have had a number of overdoses and one of the main reasons that people are overdosing is because they get tainted drug they think that they might have something like heroin or oxycodone when in fact they have fentanyl fentanyl is a lot more potent than heroin or oxycodone that means that a smaller amount of that drug is enough in sometimes cases to kill you and we can solve that problem just like they did in places like Spain Portugal and

the Netherlands Austria they have these centers where you can submit small amounts of your drug just and you can have it tested and get a chemical printout of what's contained in your drug and that way you know if some contaminant that's dangerous is in your drug don't take it have you ever tried anything else to deal with whatever trauma may exist in you because so many folks turn to drugs when they have pain have you tried any other methods of course i mean i uh i love comedy you know i i go see shows there are a number of ways that we deal with unpleasant things in our lives um but i would never tell somebody to turn to drugs to deal with trauma or even try wait wait

hold up hold up hold up i know i'm talking about heroin i'm talking about crack i'm talking about meth i'm talking about cocaine i ain't talking about crack. I'm talking about meth. I'm talking about cocaine. I ain't talking about ayahuasca and shrooms and weed and stuff like that. First of all, to be clear, I am not telling anybody to do drugs. I don't have to. People will seek out drugs. My job is to try and help people do this activity as safely as possible if you're going to do it. So this notion that I'm somehow promoting drugs drugs the first sentence in my author's note is that

this book is not promoting drugs that's not what I do how do you know when people say you have an addictive personality is that a real thing because they feel like you know you said a certain percentage of people will have issues with addiction and some people won't. But how do you know? Yeah, so this notion of an addictive personality is myth. Now, it is true that some people will be more likely to become addicted than other people. And some of those things I tried to lay out earlier, if you have co-occurring psychiatric illnesses. And your parents, if your parents are addicts, does that include? No, there's no real evidence that says like your genetics will determine whether you become addicted, although that's a popular sort of saying.

And in science, we are still investigating it. But the evidence is very weak. But also consider this. Just think about people who have unrealistic expectations placed on them because they are supporting their families their friends they're supporting all of these people and they have to perform night in night out and they have to do all of these kinds of things those sort of unrealistic expectations placed on them also increases the likelihood that these people too will become addicted so that's why you tell them go to therapy tell them take up meditation tell them go do yoga I'm not gonna tell them run and do heroin well I guess for me man

is I've seen so many bad examples of heroin users you know me crackheads I've never seen any functioning heroin users are functioning crack addicts effects of heroin like you always hear the the bad effects heroin. You hear liver and kidney disease. You see deteriorating the brain cells. You hear all these things. Like, what's the good effects of heroin? Like, what's something good about it? Okay.

So, in 2015, I went to Switzerland and I worked in a heroin clinic where people who are actually heroin addicted, they received heroin twice a day, every day. Most of those people are employed. All of them have housing. Most of them are happy. Their health improved because they don't know they no longer have to be out on the street looking for heroin and they have no interest in stopping using their heroin and they are productive members of their society. That's all good. That's what we want from people. Right. But what what about on the body though you know yeah if i don't drink this water i'm not gonna go you know sell my mother's vcr to make money to get the water yeah heroin if it's addictive i'm doing whatever it takes because i

need that hit yeah so like that story that you're telling is like an extreme anecdote certainly you can find that person but that's not where we from the whole up now no no no no I'm from the hood I started studying drugs because of the whole crack era you know I believe crack was destroying my community just like everybody else the whole New Jack City thing you know I believed all that sort of thing but the problem is is that I misattributed what was going on with those people I thought it was the drug when in fact it was all these other things. It's your economic conditions that lead to all of that. Right on.

So this is true. People do experience problems. But don't get it twisted. When most of the people who are using heroin, something like heroin, they're not going to tell you because of all of this negative judgment. Of course, the ones who are functioning well, they're not going to tell you because of all of this negative judgment. Of course, the ones who are functioning well, they're not going to say. So the only ones that you see are the ones who are contrite and they are repentant because they want your help. And they know that's the only story that you will accept.

And so what I'm trying to do in the book is to show people that that story is actually killing people because people are less likely to seek help when they need it and we are less likely to implement the programs that we need to help people i'm glad you said that because i agree with you when you say um drugs should be legal whenever i see people get locked up for you know possession of crack or possession of heroin cocaine i'm like don't send them to jail send them to rehab provide them with opportunities give them treatments that's what i thought your stance was yeah yeah because that's easy that's easy i mean that's what was right well i'm arguing that we should regulate all these drugs that way we'll have quality control we'll have better education all all of that. But if you argue that, that perspective,

you have to understand that we have exaggerated the harmful effects of drugs. And in this book, I'm showing people how. That's a tough, that's a tough line to say, Dr. Carl, that we've exaggerated the harmful effects of drugs. Absolutely. Have you seen what happens to crack addicted people, heroin addicted people, what happens to their families? What happens to the communities that exist with individuals like that? Like, that's kind of hard to say we're exaggerating. We tell everybody that bullshit story about crack. And that story is imprisoning us. It prevents us from looking at deeper what was going on.

What bullshit story about crack? Oh, crack destroyed the community. And that's hold up let me explain okay highest rates of unemployment for example were in 1982 crack didn't appear until late 1985 in most places in the country murder we talk about murder rates we had a peak spike in murder in 1980 again cracked in the period to 1985 and then we had another spike in in 91 and sure it might have had something to do with the crack sort of markets being developed but not the pharmacological effects of the drug like we tell people that's that's what i'm saying i'm saying

that we just need to re-evaluate but it's developed this story has developed more in the book so i really encourage people to read the book now don't move we got more with dr carhart when we come back it's the breakfast club good morning morning everybody it's dj envy angela yee charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club we're still kicking it with dr carhart you talk about you haven't used heroin in over a year and a half yes um of course the news made it seem like you use it every day so what gets you to the point where you have to use heroin? Like, is it socially?

Is it something going on in your life? Is it just hanging out with the boys? You made it sound like smoking a cigarette. You're like, I sit by the fire. You said it. I sit by the fire. But I also feel like... There's nothing better than doing a line at the end of the day.

But, Dr., you've also talked about the withdrawal that you have to go through from that, too, which is not easy. Right. So I'll answer this question. So one of the things that happens with heroin, as well as some other drugs, think of antidepressants in the same way. If you take heroin consecutively for weeks or months, and then you abruptly discontinue,

your body has grown accustomed to the drug being in it. And so as a result, when you abruptly discontinue it, you get withdrawal effects. And these withdrawal effects can be unpleasant. With alcohol, however, when you do this with alcohol, you might die.

Whereas with heroin, you can't really die from heroin withdrawal. But with alcohol withdrawal, you can die. So what got you to the point where you have to use heroin if you don't use it every day?

What is that? Is it just socially? Thank you. Is it recreation? No, no, what is that? Is it just socially? Thank you. Is it recreation? No, no, no. So I study drugs, right? And so I want to know everything about every aspect of what I study. So you used every drug before to study?

Damn near, everyone. I have you, certainly everyone that you probably have heard of. Crack, coke, heroin. Well, you know, i don't particularly like smoking drugs you know i i work out every day so i i like to make sure my lungs are good and so i don't so you inject no i never inject i mean i'm back i'm vain too i don't want people looking at my you don't smoke and you don't inject where house oh you take it or. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So I wanted to know about every aspect of what I do. And part of that is to actually know something about the effects.

Like if I would have just kind of believed the narrative, I would have believed that heroin was the most addictive thing that one could do. And one hit or two hits, you're addicted. It's just simply not true. But if you get to the point where you're going through withdrawals, you've probably done too much. You're probably abusing it. So somebody who has been on antidepressant and then they abruptly discontinue

and now they have withdrawal, we're saying what you were doing by taking that, you're wrong. You can abuse antidepressants as well. That's a proven fact. But you've been taking it to feel better and then you abruptly... But you can still abuse it. Yes. Certainly you can abuse it, feel better. And then you abruptly. But you can still abuse it. Yes.

Certainly you can abuse it. But you're saying it's wrong. I mean, this is not inherently wrong. These are just inert substances. We as humans place all this morality and judgment on this. And that's part of the problem. My fear is like somebody hearing this or reading your book and think it's okay. Well, it's okay. The doctor said it's okay to use drugs every once in a while he said it's not as it's not bad

for me to use drugs it's just as bad as as having you know i can die the same way from having an orgasm that's my fear when kids hear that people hear that wait did i say what you just said that's what i felt like no i didn't say that i just want to know what your message is just clear and plain what are you trying to get across in drug use for growing up i'm trying to tell people for example people who are using opioids i'm trying to say the risk is really increased when you use street drugs and not you don't know what's in it. See if you can get it tested. It's important to know what's in your substance. And so, and I'm saying to governmental officials, if you really cared about your population, you would have these drug checking facilities where people can submit small samples of their drugs

and have them tested for purity. And then we will know if it contains any contaminants. Yeah, I don't think I disagree with any of that. But I want to know, why not just spend the money and resources on helping people get clean and providing better opportunities for people. And if people are dealing with some type of real trauma, you know, giving them other methods instead of drug use. Because nine times out of ten, when people are on drugs,

it's not for recreation. They're doing it because they're going through some type of trauma. And what he said, you can't go to CVS to go buy your heroin. You can't say, okay, you know, let me go get some Welch's fruit snacks and let me get a side of heroin. You can't buy it. So you're telling people to test it. They're getting it from dealers because you can't buy it. That's right.

That's right. So if you're going to get it from dealers and so forth, make sure you can find some way to get it tested. At what point do you know you have a problem? At what point do you know you have a problem? How many times is too many times? No, thank you, man, because we haven't talked about that. We just talked about the term addiction. So that's a great point. So when I when I'm talking about the term addiction, I'm really talking about the American Psychiatric Association sort of definition.

And that is when people have psychosocial disruptions in their functioning, that is, they are failing to meet these major obligations. Like they don't come to work. They don't go to school. They're not engaging in family sort of functions or events that are important. They're failing all of these sort of obligations. And the person themselves are disturbed about not meeting these obligations. That's when they say you're addicted to porn if you miss work or you're missing appointments because you're at home watching porn. They said that's the level to when you know you're addicted.

Duh. Y'all comparing a lot of stuff to heroin and crack. That is really some false equivalency, by the way. I agree. Tell me why, man, because I think that's an important point. I could do heroin once today for the first time ever. I could do something today, right? And literally blow off my family for the day.

That one time I blew off my family's appointments, does that mean I'm irresponsible? Does that mean I have a problem? No, no. I mean, you are so successful, all of you all. The likelihood of that happening, I'll actually stake my life on it. But what if it does, though? Hold on, man. I'm just saying, the likelihood of that happening is so low. I mean, you you you're ascribing these magical properties to heroin that just don't exist.

What if I do it once and die? Well, if you do that, because that's certainly a possibility, right? That's certainly especially because you don't know what's in it and there's no way to test. Right. And you don't know what you're doing. And I don't think you will do that because you have demonstrated all of this responsibility in your life. What about you said you've been using heroin for the past five years, is what I read. Yeah. So when did you first start?

When did you first ever take a hit of heroin and why? It might have been now maybe 2015. Like I said, I wanted to know every aspect about what I do. And it was pharmaceutical grade, not in this country, in a country where drugs are decriminalized. You did it strictly for research purposes? Yeah, yeah, because I wanted to know. How did it make you feel when you first took that first hit?

It was nice and euphoric, chilled. Anxiety melts away. You wasn't scared? You wasn't nervous? You wasn't thinking, I might die? So I know what I'm doing, one, and I know it's pure, and I know not to take a large dose. Oftentimes, like right now, we are all encouraged to get the COVID vaccine and we all will. But, you know, the people who are getting the vaccine know a lot less about that than i know about heroin so you know so it's a it's more risky for me

to take uh the vaccine than it is for me to take heroin that i know the purity and i know the dose uh that's not a risky proposition for me the problem is the average person doesn't have that knowledge you can do these things safely because you've studied it for 30 years you know it's pure you know where you're getting it from you know how much to take the average person doesn't know that he's coming but you're coming from a place you're coming from a place of privilege because there's plenty of people in porn disenfranchised areas who are going to who can do heroin or any of these drugs and they will get addicted they're not doing it for they don't have the luxury of doing it for research purposes they're truly trying to escape something see that that's why i wrote the book i wrote the book to try to help keep those people

safe who will do this anyway. Have you ever had a bad experience when you took anything, tried something? I'm sure. Well, I'll tell you. You had withdrawals. Yeah. So there was a time when I wanted to know what opioid withdrawal was like. So I took some opioids for consecutive weeks and abruptly discontinued.

And I had withdrawal. I planned it like so it would happen the night before a big talk. So I could say that, you know, this is no big deal. So you were able to quit cold turkey? Yeah, yeah, I did. That's not everybody's story either. You know, there are people who use a lot more than I did in this little experiment, and they would have a lot more difficult time.

You're absolutely right. The withdrawal would have been a lot worse. But I wasn't trying to have the worst withdrawal I could have. All I wanted to do was experience it. And so I could see what it was like for myself. What was that experience? The worst of that experience was the abdominal pain. It felt like it was stabbing that radiated throughout my body. And I have no interest in going through opioid withdrawal again.

Do you enjoy drugs, Dr. Carhart? Do you enjoy drugs? Some drugs I do. Otherwise, why would I engage in an activity that I don't enjoy? Well, let's bring this home. I agree on the fact that drugs should be legal. I don't think people should be going to jail when they have an actual problem. You know, I agree with that. But as far as like just encouraging people to do it recreationally just because they're going to do it anyway, I'd rather personally get them some treatment. Personally, I'd rather get them some help. I think he was saying that if people who are using it to be responsible not but he does and i thought i would rather get those people some treatment as opposed to encouraging them to just you know creating safe spaces for them yeah i agree i'd rather get them some

you ain't gonna get an argument from me when you're talking about treatment man i mean i'm with you but that ain't what i'm saying i'm not saying yo you should go out and do this i'm not saying that uh i'm i'm i'm saying that there are people doing this. And how can I, as a responsible professional, help enhance the safety? Absolutely. That's it. And I'm saying I would rather get those same people some help.

I'd rather get them clean and provide them opportunity as opposed to providing a safe space for them to continue to do drugs. Well, you know, I have tried that too. And, I mean, with relatives and friends, and they basically said, like, get the f*** out of here, you pedantic a**hole. You know, and so now I can't, they don't even talk to me. So there's no way I can even help because, you know, they're going to, as adults, people will do what they're going to do.

And so I've learned as a parent, you know, my number one goal is to get my kids home. Right. And so they will do their thing. And I have to figure out how to help them do their thing as safely as possible and how to make sure they are good people. Well, Dr. Carhart, we appreciate you for joining us this morning. Tell them the title of your book one more time, please. Drug Use for Grownups, Chasing Liberty them the title of your book one more time please drug use for grown-ups chasing liberty in the land of fear it was a great conversation thank you for having me man i really appreciate it i have no problem um exchanging ideas even if we don't agree on on everything i really appreciate it you don't know how much it means but don't you overdose because i swear to god if you overdose i'm gonna give you

the greatest donkey of the day i have ever written in my life. I promise you. Okay? Yo, that's a bet. All right. Well, thank you, Dr. Carhartt, for joining us. Now, let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Bobby Shmurda. The Breakfast Club.

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Yeah, so you can get on the phone lines right now. 800-585-1051. Just your thoughts of the doctor. All right. Now, Bobby Shmurda did his first interview since getting out of prison, and he talked to GQ about what he learned while he was in jail and what he's going to be doing next. And he does, by the way, him and Rowdy Rebel still maintain their innocence

on the conspiracy charge in particular, saying that they were trying to link them to crimes they would otherwise have no connection with. They argue that if they were granted bail and allowed to fight the case from the outside, they would have won a trial. Now, Bobby Schmurda said his spirit is always going to be up. He said, I used to sleep next to people who had 40 to life, people who have been in there for 30 years and haven't laughed. I'd have them crying all day. When you got good energy, no matter where you at, you could bring a smile to someone's face.

And he also said, I'm not saying jail is not going to break anybody, but usually jail, I don't really care about. Even though I'm locked up all the time. I still live good in jail since I was 12. He said, he knows how to survive. You get the best treatment in jail. When you get a job, you want to shower five times a week instead of three, get a job, eat better, get a job, more phone time, get a job. But he said they kept firing him when they realized he was just doing it to stay on the phone. He also talks about his lowest time and the moment that broke him. He said it wasn't a fight. It wasn't solitary.

It was a fan letter. He said it was 2016. I was in the box. A six-year-old girl wrote to me. She said I was her favorite rapper. That just let me know the kids are watching me and I have to be a role model. Suddenly being familiar enough with Jill to rise above it didn't mean so much. So he does take his career seriously. He above it didn't mean so much. So he

does take his career seriously. He said he didn't take it that seriously before until he went to jail, he said, and saw how the fans were loyal. He said, I can't name a week that I didn't see at least 10 pieces of fan mail throughout the whole bid. So before he went to jail, he said he just was doing his money and bitches.

He said, I ain't gonna lie to you. I was 19 turning 20 coming out of East Flappish, the 90s, one of the worst neighborhoods in Brooklyn. And you got a moment to sit down and be still. And I think... I mean, that jail time might have saved his life. Exactly. Jail time saved his life,

and I think he's gonna come out a better human because of it. I think so, too. And as you know, Quavo was there when he got out to pick him up. And, you know, they talk about how they had instant magic when they all first met. He said whenever the Migos came to New York City in 2014, they made sure to link up with Bobby like the night at Powerhouse. When Quavo said he met Jay-Z for the first time backstage with Rowdy. So they all linked up. I actually remember that.

I remember that because I had to go into Migos dressing room to interview them for something for MTV and MTV2. And then Bobby and them came in there. All right. Now let's talk about the Coming to America sequel. Are y'all ready for this? You guys saw it already, right? Yeah. March 5th on Amazon Prime.

It's coming out. So they've been doing their interviews. Now, Arsenio Hall and Eddie Murphy said they had a pact to never make a Coming to America sequel. But they did end up doing it. Here's what they had to say. It took 30 years because we never planned on doing it. We shook and said, let's never do a sequel. But the movie kept following us.

So every time I would show him something. And then one time when he finally decided we should do it, he came up with the idea. And I loved the idea. But the only thing I hated was he wanted Tracy Morgan to play his son. And I think Eddie and Tracy look about the same age. But he's Eddie Murphy, so you have to say it easy. Because I did it in joke form. I said, hey, maybe the third one, Morgan Freeman, can be your son.

That didn't sound right. That was on Stephen Colbert. If you take Morgan as a son, yeah, that wouldn't have been it. All right. Now, Ryan Coogler also had pitched Eddie Murphy a Coming to America sequel with Michael B. Jordan in it. And they talked about this with the New York Times. And he said, before he directed Black Panther, I met with him. And he says, I want to do a Coming to America sequel. That's what Eddie Murphy said. He said he had an idea for Michael B. Jordan to play my son.

And he would be looking for a wife. I was like, then the movie would be about the son. It's not our characters. We already said he had an idea for Michael B. Jordan to play my son and he would be looking for a wife. I was like, then the movie would be about the son. It's not our characters. We already did that. It didn't come together. Yeah, I don't understand Eddie's reasoning for telling people that he didn't like Ryan Coogler's idea. I mean, Ryan Coogler is one of the most brilliant producers out here.

And it actually wasn't just Ryan Coogler. It was Ryan Coogler and Aaron Magruder. You know, Aaron Magruder that wrote the boondocks, Black Jesus. So I don't understand what was his reasoning. What you think about the movie? What you mean? Listen, we got Arsenio on the show next week.

And I'll talk about the movie after the movie comes out. All right. I haven't seen it yet. I want everybody to make their own decisions. Yeah, me too. There's a lot of surprises.

But I am going to watch it. And that is your rumor report. It made me feel good. After I saw it coming to America, it made me feel good. That's your rumor report. All right. Now, Charlamagne, who are you giving that donkey to? Donkey of the day is going to Representative Marcus Evans Jr.

We need him to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a word with him, okay? He wants to help carjackings in Chicago go down. Okay. I just don't like the way he's going about trying to do it, but we'll talk about it. All right. And after the donkey, of course, we'll take your calls. 800-585-1051.

We're going to be talking about Dr. Carl Hart, who just tuned in, who just joined us and was talking about drug use. So we'll talk to him next. All right. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. It's time for Donkey of the Day. I'm a Democrat. So being Donkey of the Day. Donkey of the Day at Charlemagne. I'm a Democrat, so being Donkey of the Day is a little bit of a mixed question.

So like a donkey. Donkey of the Day. The Breakfast Club, bitches. Now I've been called a lot in my 23 years that Donkey of the Day is a new one. Yes, Donkey of the Day for Friday, February 26th goes to Representative Marcus Evans Jr., a Democrat who has introduced a bill that would amend the pre-existing law banning certain video games from being sold to minors. Now, I'm not a video game fanatic at all, so I couldn't tell you why certain video games shouldn't be sold to minors. I do remember about a decade ago when the Supreme Court was debating if violent video games should be sold to minors or not. And Representative Marcus Evans Jr. Amendment is

in that lane because he would ban the sale of games with subject matter, including motor vehicle theft with a driver or passenger present. Basically, he wants to get Grand Theft Auto to F out of here. Why? Because carjackings among young people have gone up in Chicago recently. Let's go to KTLACW5 for the report, please. Illinois State Representative Marcus Evans Jr., who introduced a bill which would ban the sale of popular video game Grand Theft Auto, amongst others, in response to a rise in carjackings in Chicago.

People in government or parent groups are kind of looking for what I would say is a scapegoat to not deal with the real underlying issues of socioeconomic inequalities or mental health issues. I agree. I agree with whoever that woman was talking just now. Let me tell lawmakers in Chicago something. Can kids be influenced by things? Absolutely. Music, video games, movies, other people, of course. Do I think Grand Theft Auto is the reason carjackers have gone up in Chicago? Hell no, I don't. Okay? It's like, damn, lawmakers, read the room. The reason crime is going up across the country,

not just in Chicago, is because the poor and disenfranchised communities which were already hurting, which already lacked resources, which already lacked opportunities, those communities are even in worse shape now. So I'm looking at all these news stories about an Illinois lawmaker seeking to ban Grand Theft Auto due to a rise in carjackings. And it makes me shake my head and realize just how much folks don't get it. See, we really live in an era where people want symbolic change instead of real systemic change. OK, Grand Theft Auto gets banned. Then what? what tell me how is that going to empower and heal people how is that going to provide opportunities to thrive the violence anywhere is not going down if you don't provide access to jobs and housing that's what people need stable

housing and amenities and commerce opportunities those are the investments that need to be made you have to revitalize neighborhood economies. OK, Marcus, I'm not telling you anything you don't know. You know that. OK, you should be advocating for equity focused legislation and policy. That's what people need, not bans of Grand Theft Auto. Come on, Marcus. The wages are too low. All right. There's a lack of quality health care, substandard housing. All right. The kids want to pursue higher education. They aren't able to because college tuition too damn high and rising. Those are the problems that most Americans face. And, you know, black communities face them even more.

OK, F banning Grand Theft Auto. Raise the minimum wage to fifteen dollars an hour. All right. Make college affordable for anyone who wants to attend. I require local government to provide health care and adequate housing for everybody. OK, instead of banning Grand Theft as the great alicia garza of black futures lab says if candidates lawmakers address the needs and concerns of black communities it will result in dividends for all americans marcus if you address the real needs and concerns of the black communities in chicago and the communities in chicago that need it it will result in dividends for all of illinois okay i want this idea of banning Grand Theft Auto to die.

And instead of a cheat code for unlimited guns, lawmakers in Chicago should create a cheat code for unlimited funds to be invested in the communities that need them. That's how you slow down carjackings and every other violent crime, not only in Chicago, but across the country.

Please, let Representative Marcus Evans Jr. get the sweet sounds of the Hamilton's. Oh, now you are the donkey of the day. You are the donkey of the day. Yee-haw. All right. Thank you for that donkey of the day. I want one of y'all to do your Uncle Char a little favor.

Can you send me up some church fans? I want the old school church fans that Grandma used to use when she used to be in the pew fanning herself. Because around eight something every morning in this room for the past couple months. It's so hot oh all right well thank you for that donkey today when we come back let's open up the phone lines 800-585-1051 we're talking uh dr carl hart now he was on earlier a lot of people have different things to say about his opinion on drug use and what he had to say about drug use people they have this idea of someone who uses heroin is some poor soul who is injecting the drug and is a slave to the drug and they think that heroin is the reason for that person's problem the person's problem is

not so much heroin as everything else like the person might have co-occurring psychiatric illnesses i always hear people say well, I'm chasing that high I got the first time that I use it. Is that a real thing? It's certainly true. Like just think of the first time you enjoyed an orgasm. It's like it was amazing for me the first time It's like am I chasing the first time I had an orgasm? No, of course not But although I like that feeling I like that orgasm can't kill me, can it? What? An orgasm can't kill you? You certainly can't get killed.

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So we're just opening up the phone lines, talking about the doctor called earlier talking about drug use what do you guys think start with you ye i mean i understand and he was stressing that he was not telling people to use drugs he was saying for people that do use drugs they're going to do it anyway just like a lot of people do things you know you shouldn't do but it does still happen so how do you make it safer for people to do it they didn't make me want to try drugs or want to use heroin or anything like that but i understand that a lot of times people are mixing different cocktails together of different drugs and people are also not knowing what they're taking because they're buying it off the street so it just makes it more dangerous it didn't sound like it to me i mean him saying that he used drugs and he wasn't addicted makes it kind of seem like it's okay

and and and what he said i'm from a different school i know there's some parents out there that be like hey my kids are gonna drink anyway i'd rather them drink in the house i'm not that parent my parents weren't that parent my parents were no you're not drinking and you're not drinking in my house and if i catch you drinking i'm gonna bust your ass that's the way i am you're not drinking in my house some parents allow that hey if you're gonna drink you might as well drink anyway my parents will let me drink with them see that's your parents not mine now that that's how i feel my thing is no drug drug use is not good at all i don't want to promote it i don't want to talk about i tried it or use it or you can be in a

a walking heroin fiend no that doesn't work that doesn't that doesn't sound good to me don't use drugs i don't want my kids near drugs it's bad i don't want you to try it even weed huh even weed i don't want them using any it. Even weed? I don't want them trying weed either. But I don't want them using any drugs. We're talking about heroin, man. You know what I'm saying? And here's the thing with Dr. Carhartt. I feel that all drugs should be decriminalized.

I don't want to see people going to jail for addiction. If you have a problem with heroin, if you have an addiction problem with crack, addiction problem with meth, I don't think you should go to jail for that. You should, you know, get help. And I don't think you should go to jail for that you should you know get help and I don't think we should create safe spaces to do drugs I think we should invest resources into people going to rehab people seeking treatment and provide opportunities for them you know I'm a big advocate for mental health and mindfulness and there's

a lot of other ways to deal with your trauma other than telling people to turn to drugs well let's go to the phone lines. Hello, who's this? Hi, this is Zaina from Newport News. Hey, Zaina from the 757. What were your thoughts? I think that what he's saying is very irresponsible because everybody doesn't have the luxury of getting their drugs from Sweden. So what is he expecting people to go out here

and buy heroin and take it to the police station and be like, hey, can you test my drugs for me? It's illegal, you know. So there is no safe way to do heroin here in America. And if that's the message that he's trying to put out is that there is a safe way if the government puts certain things in place, then let that be the message. But don't go out here promoting that there's a safe way to do this in America because not everybody who does drugs are doing them because their life is the bull and they're trying to escape their problems.

A lot of this starts out as just fun, you know, parties and doing things. And so somebody may be listening to this guy right now thinking their life is fine, but they're curious about what he's saying. And they try it and die. And heroin is the most addictive drug. It's not that bad because the way he talks, it makes it seem like it's not that bad. But that's not the heroin addicts I've seen when I be when I be buying these cribs. And that's not how my uncle OD'd.

It was bad. But I told him that I told him that, you know, his perspective was coming from a real place of privilege. Hello, who's this? This is Travis. Hey, Travis. What's going on? What do you think of the doctor? Man, I just want to say I've had four really close friends die from overdose in the past year or year and a half.

And I'm talking about people that were very respectful people until they decided to start using pain pills and heroin and that. And it completely changed these people. Once the drug use started, they were no longer the same people that I knew and loved and respected. They lied. They cheated. They did anything to get this drug. And I just watched it. You know, over a quarter of a year years they completely became somebody else

for him to say that it's not drugs that it's their personality that's a lie man these drugs is killing people thank you brother I agree

hello who's this this is Ashley from Jacksonville, Florida 904 904 what's happening Ashley good morning hi Solomon hi DJ

FBI I love you guys so what's your thoughts on the doctor that called in from Florida? My thought is, guys, y'all are so rough. DJ Envy, I know you have your stance on the drug use. And Charlamagne, I know you're with therapy. But he was trying to get out that he's not promoting drugs. He's just saying for those who are going to quit against therapy altogether,

especially our black community who is against therapy, just have a safe way to use it. Y'all didn't really let them talk until the end. Well, can I ask you a question? Where's the safe space for people to do that in America? Should you take your drugs to the police station to have them tested? No, that's why he said we should build some. Other countries have different laws. You know, our country is

our country. He was saying he's seen it work in other places and so something like that could be implemented here instead of always trying to demonize these people who are addicts and calling them fiends and crackheads. I think instead of creating the same spaces, we should invest resources into people

going to rehab. We should invest resources into people seeking treatment and provide opportunities for them. What do we do with the people who say, no, our older generation is against all of that. You could do both both you could invest more money into that and also have resources where if they are going to continue to do it at least don't die from something that's not what you think it is hey man i'm not encouraging nobody to do heroin i'm not encouraging that's what it is that's exactly what it is like so what about the people that

are using it just i mean that's all you can do but what if they don't want to get help you know how. But what if they don't want to get help? You know how hard that is. If they don't want to get help, pray for them. Yeah, I mean, I want them to get help. Because it's not going in well. Just leave them. But it's not going in well. I just said, just help them. They need help.

But I don't want to encourage anybody else to get on here. At all. All right, 800-585-1051. Let's talk about it. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. I know it now. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. That kid don't even get what that is.

Call me. Add your opinion to the Breakfast Club topic. Come on. 800-585-1051. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're taking your calls on the doctor that just called about drug use and the car heart

He was up here. Yeah, but like I my opinion I think that Nobody should be using heroin like I'll say behind the scenes I think they should be in cigarettes if they telling you cigarettes causes cancer and cancer kills you Why are we allowing people to smoke it? I think people should eat meat. I don't think people should eat red meat. The only thing I agree with Dr. Carl Hardon is that drugs should be decriminalized. That should be the message because I don't want to see people going to jail because they have addiction problems. Correct. Red meat is a level one carcinogen and we sell that and eat it.

I mean, if it's guaranteed that something can kill you like cigarettes, like heroin can and it's so addictive. No, I'm not going to encourage nobody to ever use it and say it's OK or it's guaranteed that something can kill you like cigarettes, like heroin can, and it's so addictive, no. I'm not going to encourage nobody to ever use it and say it's okay or it's fine. That's just my opinion. But let's go to the phone lines. Hello, who's this? Hi, this is Steph Wayne. Hey, good morning. What was your thoughts on the doctor, Dr. Carhartt? I get it that he said he wants the kids to come home.

I get that part. Everybody's going to try it. But I don't agree with him when he said, oh, go get it tested. How many addicts you know are going to be able to go out there, purchase their drugs, and then go get it tested? No, they want their sex then. They don't want to wait and try to get it tested. They want it then. I guess he was saying he's seen it work in other countries

But heroin is too much of a monster drug Y'all this is heroin It's the most addictive drug He said something that had me laughing He said how he quit Opioids just like that That wasn't his drug But I bet you he can't quit heroin just like that

Exactly He said he hasn't taken it in a year and a half I don't believe him Well thank you mama Hello who's this But I bet you he can't quit heroin just like that. Exactly. He said he hasn't taken it in a year and a half. I don't believe him. I don't believe that. Well, thank you, mama. Hello, who's this? Russell.

Hey, Russell, what's your opinion on the doctor? Dr. Carhartt, I just checked in. I think he's a quack, man. I think he's just like all drug users. He's just trying to justify his use. Because for him to see that, he's destroying our community. And it's crazy. I've been around. I'm 61.

I've been around. I've seen the boys coming home from Vietnam all messed up. And all in the 80s. Red side, south side, Jamaica. It tore us apart, man. For him to say that is... Hello, who's this? Anonymous.

Hey, Anonymous. What are your thoughts on the doctor? I felt that... I understood what he was saying. I felt that there are functional drug users out here. And like I told the other guy on the phone, I told him, I'm not a drug user. But I view around people who deal and i've been around people who you i hear that gichi in your

voice now i hear that 843 so i know you ain't lying and yes 843 but anyway but what i'm saying is you know i mean i've seen people who are judges politicians lawyers doctors who go hard friday when they get off work go hard saturday and then monday right back at work and doing their thing so i've seen functional drug users but then i've also seen the side that y'all were portraying like the people who's coming in their mama house stealing the tv doing all of that to get their high so i see both sides but it seemed like initially in his interview it seemed like Y'all were kind of Going hard attacking him

But I felt What he was saying And what y'all were saying Also too It's not just drugs It's heroin Right and I get that And see the thing is

Like okay You know for me Not being a drug user It's like I think a heroin I think you're putting It on your arm But like I have Family members who Fail and they're like no it's in like a pill form now

you know i mean like where as these kids out here pumping these pills and stuff they are pumping heroin as pills so it's not even in the needle form no more so i've seen young people 20 something year olds and they're saying like oh yeah he on heroin and i'm like in a way like you look at them and you can't even tell they're on heroin but yeah he on heroin and i'm like in a way like you look at them and you can't even tell they're on heroin but it's like heroin has changed its form now so when we think of it we're thinking of the form of you putting a needle in your arm of course but eventually it catches up and last year actually was the highest uh opioid overdose rate ever but eventually that lifestyle catches up and i just don't understand anyone who's actually seen dope heads who's

actually seen heroin users what it does to a person what it does to a I just don't understand anyone who's actually seen dope heads, who's actually seen heroin users, what it does to a person, what it does to a community. I don't understand how you can encourage anyone to do heroin. Yeah. Mine comes from a different place. Mine comes from a close family member that OD'd and died and I'll never get back from drugs. Mine comes from a place of me investing in real estate in Patterson and Atlantic city and walking into these houses and seeing heroin addicts and fiends and stuck and having conversations with them and telling me that they can't get help, that they've tried. They've been to rehab so many different times, but they just can't kick it. And they came from good families and their families have tried to save them over and

over and over again, but they got to stay in these areas because they got to buy their drugs. They got to be able to use their drugs and how sad that is and i never would want my family member my child my friend or anybody on on something that's dependent where they're living in the slums no heat no air conditioner you know no water no nothing just to get these drugs and i know i know i've seen how much pain my mother had to deal with because her brother passed away from the OD. And I would never tell anybody,

oh, being a functional drug user is okay. No, that's my opinion. If y'all don't like it, it's me. I don't want my kids. I don't want my family members. I don't want anybody using those hard drugs. I know in the future, I'm going to have a drink with my children.

I know in the future, I might even do, I might smoke some weed with my children. I ain't doing no heroin. You know what I'm saying? I ain't smoking no crack. I ain't doing no heroin. You know what I'm saying? I ain't smoking no crack. I ain't doing no cocaine. But that's me. I'm not doing no coke. I'm not doing no heroin. I'm not doing no crack. I'm not doing

opioids. I'm not doing none of that. That's just me. I'm not doing ecstasy. That's just me. I don't want to. That's me personally. I've seen the effects of it on family and friends and I just don't want to be in that situation. The moral of the story is I do feel that all those drugs should be decriminalized. I don't want to see people going to jail for addiction.'t want to be in that situation. But the moral of the story is I do feel that all those drugs should be decriminalized. I don't want to see people going to jail for addiction.

I want to see people get help. I don't want to create safe spaces so they can do their drugs. We should invest resources into people going to rehab, seeking treatment, and providing better opportunities for them. I agree with that as well. I don't understand how somebody that's addicted to heroin could get locked up if they're addicted to it. They need help. All right. Well, we got rumors on the way?

Yes, we are going to talk about a new group that Bruno Mars and Anderson.Paak have formed. All right, we'll get into that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Hey, morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club.

Good morning. What's happening? Okay. You're not talking to the mic, bro. Oh, you couldn't hear me? No. What's happening? There you go. Good morning. What's happening? Okay. You gotta talk into the mic, bro. Oh, you couldn't hear me? No. No. What's happening?

There you go. Good morning. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk into music. This is the Rumor Report with Angela Yee. Rumor has it. On the Breakfast Club.

Listen up. Well, here is just a sampling of some things that are out today. Bryson Tiller put out the anniversary Deluxe album. Also, Chloe and Halle gave out some extra music too with their Ungodly Hour Chrome Edition. Also, Currency Collection Agency. Paige Kennedy put out his new project today also, Paige.

And then Pop Smoke has a new single. And that's from the Boogie movie. It's called AP. All right. That's just some samples of things that are out today. Young Blue has new music out with Coyle Ray also today. Thieves in Atlanta. Okay. All right.

Now, Mr. Potato Head is now gender neutral. People have all kinds of jokes now on social media. Somebody said from stud to spud. So they said they are renaming the toy line, though, not the individual toys themselves. I know people thought it was just going to be a gender neutral Potato Head. But now they're still Mr. Potato Head. They're still Mrs. Potato Head. But the line of products is called Potato Head. Who complained about this?

Who said that this is something people wanted? Because aren't all Potato Heads neutral as soon as you just remove the parts? That's why they come with accessories, right? Yes. I didn't know this was, yeah. If I just put eyes and a nose on it, it could be whatever.

It could be, yeah, it could be whatever. They want everybody to feel included, so they're promoting gender equality and inclusion. Oh, God. Potatoes don't have gender. Listen, and here's the thing, too. I don't see no Mr. Potato Head or Mrs. Potato Head that come with penises or vaginas. Not at all.

They have, like, the mustache and I guess... Some of them have mustaches. That's fine. That's not genitalia. Yeah. But they still exist. Mr. Potato Head is still there. Mrs. Potato Head is still there.

It's just called Potato Head. All right, man. Listen, all you woke people need some sleep. It's a lot. When you stay up too long, you get tired, and you start making really silly choices. All right. Chelsea Hamlin, happy birthday to her. She's 46 years old, and to celebrate, she was skiing

naked. I don't know if you guys saw that, but she also put out an inspiring message. I'm grateful to be able to appreciate so much Canadian beauty. She's in Canada working. Coming to Canada for winter on a work visa and following all the mandatory quarantine rules has exposed me to some of the most beautiful pieces of nature I have ever seen. This is the place that made me

fall in love with skiing, fall in love with the mountains and appreciate that Mother Nature is always in control and that we must respect her and we must respect each other. Yeah, I agree with all that. When I saw that picture, all I heard was my daddy voice in my head. See, that's how you get pneumonia in your ass. Right there. That's exactly how you get pneumonia in your ass right there that's exactly how you get pneumonia in your ass all right now bruno mars and anderson pack have announced a new band called silk sonic

according to them they locked in and made an album so they've already completed an album that does feature bootsy collins and the first single will be coming out next week on friday bro with the fan come on with the fan now what everybody can hear fan now. What? Everybody can hear you fanning, man. No, they can't. You're just looking at me. Oh my goodness. They don't hear nothing. I will say this, though. That Anderson Paak, Bruno Mars album, I don't want to have no expectations. But on paper, that's an amazing combination.

It does. That's an amazing combination, Anderson Paak and Bruno Mars. Alright, now did you know, since we're talking about that same date, March 5th, that's also when the Coming to America movie is coming out on Amazon Prime. And Eddie Murphy's real life daughter is actually in the movie. Did you know that? Which one is she? The middle one, I think. Oh, she's his actual daughter. She plays in real life. Yeah. So here he is talking about this on Good Morning America.

She's a good little actress and she's been serious about it for a while. There are no words on how proud I am of my daughter and what a great job she did and she auditioned for the role and she got the role herself.

Yeah, I don't know if she's the middle daughter or the oldest one in the movie because we got three daughters in the movie. I don't remember. All right.

Well, that is your rumor report. All right. You can hear my fan for real yes we can hear your fan this is Flame Monroe's fan Flame Monroe that's why it says fan to flame

my guy Flame Monroe well my people Flame Monroe French yes my people but I want a church fan so please still send your church fans

up here you look like a grandma in church right now I have no problem with that I love grandmas in church drop on the clues box for all the grandmas that go to church i can live to be as old as a grandma in church and to have that kind of wisdom and experience i will take it all right okay all right well thank you for that uh rumor report up next is the people's choice mix get your request and revolt we'll see you uh on monday everybody

and also don't forget you know, Cesar and I. I think Cesar will be up here in the next couple of weeks. He just dropped a new book. So make sure you pick up Cesar's book. It's called Flipping Keys. K-E-Y-S. K-E-Y-S. I was like, wow.

Flipping Keys. It's a whole drug theme today. You know damn well that ain't what it means. That doesn't mean Flipping Keys. I'm talking about ye. Oh, it's real estate. It's about real estate. So check it out. You hear his story.

And then we're going to be in Atlanta, I think, in two weeks doing one of our seminars, trying to teach the community how to purchase their first home. I think you should just stay in Atlanta. Once you go down there for All-Star, y'all just stay your ass down there. Stay there for two weeks straight? No, I don't want to see you for 30 days, okay? Because you're going to need quarantine, quarantine. Quarantine, quarantine.

You can't fly there and come in and fly back. I took my first shot at a vaccine. Oh, you did. You did. You did. When you get the second one, when they take the trash out again at CVS, you can get the second one. That's how you got the first one, right?

They took the trash out and they were throwing it out? Well, yeah. I mean, well, they have the vaccine and somebody didn't show up for their appointment and I was there, so I got the shot. Okay. So when do they take the trash out again at CVS so you can get your second shot? About three, four weeks. We monitoring your beard, too, bro.

Why? Because if that Beijing starts to come out of your throat, something wrong. Shout to Kevin Hart. Shout to DJ Khaled. Shout to my brother, Rick Ross. Boy, you was a snitch. Shout to Diddy. They don't want to be shouted out.

No, I'm just shouting my peoples out. They don't want to be shouted out right now. You want to be the Beijing boys so bad. What are you talking about? That's what you trying to do. You trying to assemble a coalition of brothers who use that damn dye. That's what you trying to do. Nobody uses Beijing. But yo, shout out to my brother Kevin Hart, Khaled.

Wow. Diddy, Ross. I see y'all brothers out there, man. Have a great weekend. Let's get to the mix. You gonna do an album with Diddy? The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, this is the last Black History Month that we're doing this month. Damn, Black History Month will be over after this, huh? Mm-hmm. Well, I mean, the beauty of it is we black, so we celebrate our history every day, all day. Absolutely.

Okay, but today's Black History Month legend, the last one of the month, is the great Barry White. Okay, who was Barry White? Barry White was an American singer, songwriter, a brother who had a voice like none other. If he was born in the late 70s, you know, 80s, it's a great chance your daddy released all his ancestors into your mother while Barry White was the soundtrack, okay? Ask him. Can't get enough of your love, baby. Never, never gonna give you up.

You're the first, the last, my everything. Come on now. Let's hear a little quick little compilation, you know what I mean, of that bass baritone voice that Barry had I'm never ever gonna stop Not the way I feel about you Girl, I just can't live without you Oh man, incredible records. But the thing I love about Barry White wasn't just his music, it was his wisdom. And one of my favorite moments was a conversation he had on the Arsenio Hall show

where he spoke on the power that we possess. Let's listen. The Breakfast Club presents a new Black History Month legend. You know, people tend to play down our power. Well, don't worry about it. This next guy do it, or let's ask God above to do it.

There's a lot of things that has to change on this planet Earth that only we can change. And until we embrace the fact that we are as powerful as we are as beings, we're going to continue to make the mistakes and allow the mistakes to be made from our children to our adults to our elderly to whatever situation you want to talk about. And that was another new Black History Month legend, courtesy of The Breakfast Club.

Long live Barry White, man. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. All right, now, when we come back, we got the positive notes, so don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Good morning. It's time to get up out of here. Charlamagne, you got a positive note? Yeah, man.

Since it's the last day of Black History Month, man, why not, you know, talk about black power? Okay. Black power. Two quotes about black power from Stokely Carmichael, one from Huey Newton. First, Stokely. Black power can be clearly defined for those who do not attach the fears of white America to their questions about it. Huey P. Newton, black power is giving power to people who have not had power to determine their destiny.

Breakfast club, bitches! You all finished or y'all done? My dad's got a fucking gun. Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this.

It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets.

Listen to Escape from Zakistan. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions,

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