The Breakfast Club - You can’t pray it away? Tim Ross joins Loren LoRosa & Noa Mills in Pt. 2 of convo about about praying away and more! 

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

This is the second half of Loren’s interview from this past weekend with Tim Ross and Noa Mills. In this section we talk about praying away and personal responsibility when it comes to healing. ...We also take some questions from the audience!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:22 Hey, guys, what's up? It's Lauren La Rosa. And this is the latest with Lauren La Rosa. this is your daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment news, and all of the conversations that shake the room, baby. Now, today we are getting back into another part of a conversation that I had with spiritual leader, podcaster, faith leader, Tim Ross, and Noah Mills, who is a mental health advocate and former Miss Delaware USA, 2023. But this time, we're talking about the fact that you cannot pray it away. Now, a lot of y'all know what I'm talking about when
Starting point is 00:02:57 it comes to mental health things, when it comes to things you're dealing with, when it comes to the things that you were just going to the people and saying, hey, I need some help about, we all have been told, just get down and pray, baby. That don't work. And we're going to talk about it. Talk a bit about, because I know Tim, you know, you've been very intentional about even how you talk about therapy and comparing it to like regular health checkups, right? And doing this to your church, praying away has been here for a very, very long time. What's been your bad with trying to turn the conversation away from praying away in your church to get people into a space where they understand it. No, something's wrong. Yeah. Trying to create safe
Starting point is 00:03:39 spaces in church, I don't know. This is so difficult. It's a major frustration for me because in church, we want to deal with present and future. Like, get safe. See what God did? And what it's going to do. Right? We, we call. quick to Jeremiah 29.11, everybody. Go get tattoos. Jeremiah 29.11. For I know the good things that I have for you, said the Lord. And it's like, if we don't deal with this in the past, it's going to mess up your present and your future. But if you don't have a safe space to say what it is, then you can't even, look, I got, I was sexually abused by an older teenage boy when I was eight years old, okay, for like a six month period of time.
Starting point is 00:04:27 this the only way to endure that kind of trauma at eight years old was to disassociate so i was never present in my body because i had to survive my trauma so i just disappeared i just i'm going to play basketball later let me think about that until this is over so now i'm saved all that trauma is still in my body and i'm going to pray what a way where where is it going i was sexualized at eight where is that going so i I needed a safe space. The safe space was created in my parents' house who were both passers by vocationally for 15 years.
Starting point is 00:05:04 My mom caught me looking at porn at 2 o'clock in the morning. Very embarrassing. When I say you caught, this is 1995 caught. This is VCR, VHS, box TV, caught. This ain't on your phone, you swiped up real quick. This is fumbling with the remote. Mommy went to the room to pray. Because that's what she is.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Mommy went to the room to pray. After I cleaned myself up, I walked into that room. I was a 19 year old. young man but the eight year old finally talked to his mommy I'd have been in silence for 11 years
Starting point is 00:06:07 the eight year old finally got to tell mommy where it hurt my younger brother had been abused by the same guy and then now's a family emergency at probably like by 4 o'clock in the morning my mom my dad me and my brother
Starting point is 00:06:23 we all got free because we wasn't trying to pray away nothing we was processing pain and after we had got everything up and out now we knew exactly what to pray for we are telling people to pray before they have time to process and I can't properly pray
Starting point is 00:06:47 until we have processed exactly what's going on so if you can't tell me where it's hurt if the church could just get away if we could just throw away unknown prayer requests or unspoken prayer requests. Because after I got free, people will come down to the altar crying. Like, you can tell the trauma's in everybody.
Starting point is 00:07:07 And then I'm like, what do you want prayer for? Whatever the Lord shows you. He's about to show me nothing. I'm not wasting my discernment on you. Because you won't do this to your dentist. You don't do it. to your doctor. You were walking there and be like,
Starting point is 00:07:29 I got some pus coming out. But then you come down to the altar and they were vague. Just, you know, I've just been struggling this week. With what? Say it. Because whatever doesn't come up and out of your mouth will come up and out through your body.
Starting point is 00:07:49 And we don't want to send you home the same way you came, but if you can't say it And the church, I know we've said the church, it's a hospital, but we also have to have altar workers who are not frightened by sickness. It would be crazy for a doctor to find out you got the flu and be like, ah! I got you have the flu!
Starting point is 00:08:15 So we have to stop being shocked by sin. The sicknesses that sin manifests. So, I hope. I want to take the time to open up for audience questions. Now, you can just come to the mic if you have. Can you hear me now? Yes. All right, you were on the leader's cut.
Starting point is 00:08:42 And you were talking about how you started the basement at, right? And you had provision, right? And you realized that you're at your friend's church. church, but he didn't tell you do that, right? And you said that you started and realized that you had to turn around. Did you receive a command from God and then a directive? Or did you just know the turnaround? What toll did that take, or if any, on your mental health?
Starting point is 00:09:10 Did you feel shame? Did you have to combat that? And then how did you go about it with the people around you? Okay, so thank you so much. Give me your name? Sean Air. Sean Air. I love you.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Okay, so I got to give y'all context to this very, very quickly before I answer this question. So I started a business with my friend and business partner in late 2023. We started this company, and by January of 25, I had to depart from the company. And I was very angry. It was very hurtful, the way we had to guard separate ways. was really on my nerves. Anyway, in July, while I'm on my sabbatical, my friend, Chris Derso, has to preach at a church,
Starting point is 00:10:01 and he preaches this message called, who I have it written down. Well, let me give you the chapter. Joshua chapter number nine is where Joshua goes into covenant with the Ghibeianites, but he does not consult the Lord. Okay? And so while I'm listening to this message that Chris is preaching, the Holy Spirit says to me, you didn't consult me before you started that company and that's why it's failed.
Starting point is 00:10:31 You did not get a word for me. And I was like, eh, you know that ugly cry that comes instantaneously when the Lord corrects you? So not only am I, obviously as a son, I'm thankful for the Lord's correction because he disciplines those that he loves. Secondly, though, I was so embarrassed. Like, how did I miss you? Like, I try to be so careful, how did I miss you? And what he said was, you mistook your friend's provision,
Starting point is 00:11:06 because my friend was a multi-millionaire, you mistook his provision as God's confirmation. And I grew up in a Pentecost of Church that says, where there is vision, there is, there is provision. And he said, you mistook his provision as a word from God. But Tim, only a word from God is a word from God.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Provision is not a word from God. And so after I cried and repented and told my wife and told my kids and ultimately told our entire audience, which that's how y'all found out, right? And my staff and stuff, I dealt, I didn't deal, obviously I felt very hurt and disappointed that I missed God like that.
Starting point is 00:11:55 I didn't feel guilt or shame, but what happened was afterwards I didn't trust myself for, and to be honest, I still don't trust myself to hear God as confidently as I did in the past. So what I've told the Lord very honestly is I don't trust myself now I don't move with the faith that Abraham right now I move with the fleeces of Gideon right now please Holy Spirit don't be mad
Starting point is 00:12:29 that I'm going to need 18 confirmations before I think this is you again because I missed it so bad I just I just want to know that this is you for real for real for real So I hope that helps. Okay, you're welcome. On the latest episode of next question with me, Katie Couric,
Starting point is 00:12:55 I sat down with Bernie Sanders, who is 84 years old, has spent 34 years in Congress, and he can still pack a rally with people a quarter of his age. Denver, 34,000 people come out. Salt Lake City, 20,000 people out. You know, huge turnouts. People are really decisive. satisfied about the status quo.
Starting point is 00:13:16 His fighting oligarchy tour with AOC and other young progressives has become a movement, but is his message too far to the left? Well, he certainly doesn't think so. Is that sound like a radical idea, Katie? Is that too far left for you? Okay, okay. I get your point, Bernie. We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living, and of course the government
Starting point is 00:13:39 shutdown, not to mention the current state of the Democratic Party. To me, the failure of the Democratic Party has been an unwillingness to recognize the real issue. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search next question with Katie Couric and listen now. All I know is what I've been told, and that to have truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went up. unsolved, until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy Kilder, we know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people, and that got the citizen investigator on national TV.
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Starting point is 00:15:02 From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:15:30 And to binge the entire season ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Hunter, host of Hunting for Answers on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Join me every weekday as I share bite-sized stories of missing and murdered black women and girls in America. There are several ways we can all do better at protecting black women. My contribution is shining a light on our missing sisters and amplifying their disregarded stories. Stories like Tamika Anderson. As she drove toward Galvez, she was in contact.
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Starting point is 00:16:54 Playing Along is back. I sit down with musicians from all musical styles to play songs together in an intimate setting. Every episode's a little bit different, but it all involves music and conversation with some of my favorite musicians. Over the past two seasons, I've had special guests like Dave Grohl, Leveh, Rufus Wainwright, Remy Wolf, Mark Rebier, Mavis Staples, really too many to name. And there's still so much more to come in this new season, including the powerful psychedelic duo Black Pumas, my old pal and longtime songwriting friend, Jesse Harris, and the legendary Lucinda Williams. Listen to Nora Jones is playing along on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So, Tim, really quickly, now that I hear you speak and see how you act, I completely understand now why people don't believe you when I say I'm introverted. So my question is, as someone who's interested,
Starting point is 00:18:03 introverted and navigating a major shift in my content from what I thought my niche would be to what God is now calling me to speak on. How do I reconcile the discomfort of visibility with obedience, especially when the new direction feels emotionally heavier and spiritually deeper? May I ask some clarifying questions? What was your niche? My niche prior would be more so like, well before. I got saved, pastor. I guess you could say like it would look kind of hot girlish.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Like, you know, like, you know, like a lot living life, doing whatever. For sure. And what is it going to be then? More centered around like mental health, fitness, well, wellness, a little bit of fitness and just like navigating life
Starting point is 00:18:52 while including the Lord, but also understanding that things happen. Got it. And what is the tension you're struggling with it? So right now, it feels spiritually deeper, and emotionally heavier because I am introverted and I have a tendency to shrink myself because I can be surface level. Like you may know Lydia, she's sociable, but she's not personable.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Got it. So when you make this transition, you're going to lose some people, right? Because people meet you in one phase of your life. And that's where they want to keep you. And if you change at all, They're like, you were eating fish and now you're eating tacos. I don't like you anymore. Unsubscribe, right? Now that you have this assignment, you need to approach it with the mindset of an assignment. I am doing this intentionally because I know that this is what God has me to do.
Starting point is 00:19:59 I would rather not be doing this. but obedience is better than sacrifice. So the mindset that you take is not one of like, oh my gosh. I don't have that mindset when it comes to anything God tells me to do. But I understand this is my assignment. I'm going to do it. And when I'm done doing this, I get to disappear. Right?
Starting point is 00:20:22 When I see people in public, I would take all the photos. I would hug. Because I'm grateful. I'm genuinely grateful that they're watching the kind of. They don't need to know that they're wearing me out. All of y'all right now are wearing me out. You're just sitting looking and I'm tired of all of you. Right now.
Starting point is 00:20:53 But I will hug all of y'all and tell you I love you and mean it. But just the way that I'm wired, I recharge alone. I don't recharge in a room for the people. I recharge by myself. So when my son and I get back to the hotel room, he's gonna watch Corey Kitchen and I'm going to watch something else on YouTube or private kitchen under Cappano's episode.
Starting point is 00:21:15 And we're gonna check out. So just make sure that your assignment does it become something you think you're obligated to be? You are not your assignment. You are doing your assignment. So I hope that helps. How you doing, Tim? I'm doing 12 to come make sure I sold you today.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Wow. Thank you, bro. What's your name? My name is Ebony McNeill. It's a pleasure to meet you, man. I love you. Thank you, thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:21:49 So first thing is I'm actually with mental health therapist. So this was near and dear to me. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for the work you do, because you saved our lives. Thank you. But something you said earlier about trying to press the wrong people. And one thing I've noticed when I'm doing therapy with my clients, and actually I experienced
Starting point is 00:22:15 myself a lot recently is understanding who your audiences. How do you think that equates with a lot of us when we are starting to follow the right path getting imposter syndrome and wondering if we're actually doing what we're supposed to be doing you know are we worthy of doing that yeah um so i i am a big believer in having a target audience i have never not had a target audience ever the reason why now we don't like that kind of language in church because it feels very businessy and corpority like
Starting point is 00:23:03 you ask a church I'll ask a leader of a church who are you called to reach? I'm called to reach the whole city the whole city I like you and even if they did the building ain't big enough so you're like you're delusional
Starting point is 00:23:20 you don't have a target Jesus had a target audience his target audience wasn't us it wasn't Gentiles it was the lost sheep of Israel and because he focused on them we all got in
Starting point is 00:23:37 if you don't focus on nobody you ain't going to reach nobody right so you have to know who your target audiences I'm gonna give you who my two targeted audiences were and then I are yeah was and is and then I'll give you the Impostor Syndrome party so when I was a lead pastor
Starting point is 00:23:55 for the seven years that I was a lead pastor, I was talking to a 30-year-old biracial girl whose father was black and whose mother was white. She had a master's level education and she loved God and was looking for a community. That's who I preach to every weekend.
Starting point is 00:24:17 I wouldn't preach to nobody else. I was preaching to a light-skinned biracial chick every weekend. And the church was filled from 20-year-olds to 80-year-olds because I was talking to her. My theology was for her because she was going to, she was already popular with her friends, so she was going to bring her friends to church. Because she was cute, she was going to get some dude and some dudes going to come in,
Starting point is 00:24:42 not because he liked me, but because he liked her, but when he came in and heard me, he was going to be like, that nigger real. I'm sorry, BJ. Can I do that? I'm so sorry. please forgive me I forgot where I was for half a second Lisa I know I owe you a hundred dollars two hundred dollars yes ma'am I'm gonna give you three just to make sure okay so so my by focusing on her that's how the church group As a podcaster, I'm talking to a 25-year-old guy who doesn't have a dad.
Starting point is 00:25:32 And that's all I'm talking to every day. It's a 25-year-old who doesn't have a dad. Now, at 50 years old, where does my imposter syndrome creep in? Why am I talking to these people? Yeah. Surely somebody else can do this. Younger, cooler, more relevant. Why is it me?
Starting point is 00:25:53 It shouldn't be me. God, I tried. I think my time has passed. And the Lord's like, no, I still need you here. Stop playing with me. So it is, it is the, the, you have to, you have to be convinced that this is what he has called you to do. Okay, thank you, Holy Spirit.
Starting point is 00:26:16 And don't make it deeper than your sonship with God. Right, right. Mental health professional, podcaster, Miss Delaware, stuff. She has so many hyphenates around what she was doing. Let's not make it any bigger than I'm a son, these are daughters, and we're brothers and sisters. Because if not, then it's like,
Starting point is 00:26:47 then it's like how many followers you got? And, well, my platform's not as big as we all sons and daughters doing what he told us to do. It's his being who told us to do it. So that's how I get over my infoster syndrome. I hope that's helpful. On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, I sat down with Bernie Sanders, who is 84 years old, has spent 34 years in Congress, and he can still pack a rally with people a quarter of his age. Denver, 34,000 people come out.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Salt Lake City, 20,000 people are, you know, huge turnouts. People are really dissatisfied about the status quo. His fighting oligarchy tour with AOC and other young progressives has become a movement, but is his message too far to the left? Well, he certainly doesn't think so. Is that sound like a radical idea, Katie? Is that too far left for you? Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:27:47 I get your point, Bernie. We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living, and of course, the government shut down, not to mention the current state of the Democratic Party. To me, the failure of the Democratic Party has been an unwillingness to recognize the relationship. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search next question with Katie Couric and listen now. All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-truth. is a whole lie.
Starting point is 00:28:21 For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved, until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her. We know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people, and that got the citizen investigator on national TV. Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer, and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her, or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said.
Starting point is 00:29:11 They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happen to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. and to binge the entire season at free,
Starting point is 00:29:49 subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Hunter, host of Hunting for Answers on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Join me every weekday as I share bite-sized stories of missing and murdered
Starting point is 00:30:07 black women and girls in America. There are several ways we can all do better at protecting black women. My contribution is shining a light on our missing sisters and amplifying their disregarded stories. Stories like Tamika Anderson.
Starting point is 00:30:23 As she drove toward Galvez, she was in contact with several people, talking on the phone as she made her way to what should have been a routine transaction. But Tamika never bought the car, and she never returned home that day. One podcast, one mission, save our girls.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Join the search as we explore the chilling cases of missing and murdered black women and girls. Listen to hunting for answers every weekday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, I'm Nora Jones, and I love playing music with people so much that my podcast called Playing Along is back. I sit down with musicians from all musical styles to play. play songs together in an intimate setting. Every episode's a little bit different, but it all involves music and conversation with some of my favorite musicians. Over the past two seasons, I've had special guests like Dave Grohl, Leveh, Rufus Weinwright,
Starting point is 00:31:33 Remy Wolfe, Mark Rebier, Mavis Staples, really too many to name. And there's still so much more to come in this new season, including the powerful, psychedelic duo Black Pumas, my old pal and long. longtime songwriting friend, Jesse Harris, and the legendary Lucinda Williams. Lizzie to Nora Jones is playing along on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Thank you for being here and sharing your wisdom with us and being put about our healing journey. God bless you both. My question is, how do you, when you, When God is transitioning you through different seasons of life, how do you, practical ways to basically redefining yourself, setting, finding your place in the world, and truly finding the purpose and calling that he has for your life in this new season? He's giving me spirit fingers to tell me as me. Yes, I want to say I love your question because I just identify with what you're saying so
Starting point is 00:32:48 potently. Before I became Ms. Delaware, I spoke briefly about being in clinical depression for six months that took me out of college, and I was so badly upset with God about a season in my life that I didn't understand what he was doing with me. And after I got,
Starting point is 00:33:11 out of that, I was continuing to do my work. And after I was present for the suicide attempt of my younger sibling, you know, a lot of these things, everything kept pointing up and down. And one thing will happen bad, one thing will happen great. One thing will happen bad. I was like, I'm on the right track. What am I doing? What's going on?
Starting point is 00:33:29 I have some of the questions. And one of the things that I want to tell you that I hope encourages your spirit sincerely is a missed, up, down, good, bad, not understanding if this is where I'm supposed to be doing or if it feels right or if it's making sense to me, it's not a shock to God. He has charted
Starting point is 00:33:51 your path way before you got to this season. And in the last season, he's going to be with you in the next season and every single step that you take as it's confusing to you, as you don't know what's next, as you're concerned about who's leaving and who's coming and why I don't
Starting point is 00:34:07 know what the next step is, God's already counseled. Have peace over the fact that you're not God and you do not have to be. Amen? I was here for the last panel revolving around friendships and this question is more specific to Noah
Starting point is 00:34:35 as one of my closest friends. You were a light in my life during one of the lowest points in my life going through so much mental challenges, fertility issues. You were that one of my friends that were just there for me. And so this brought me to asking questions about, and took notes. Sometimes when we're in a certain kind of pain, it's really hard to let people in. Even the ones that you really care about, but how did your faith guide you and showing up for me, Then my question, as pertaining to, for the whole audience, what advice would you give to others in the church who want to support loved ones without making them feel like a burden?
Starting point is 00:35:17 Absolutely, and I love this question. This is Caitlin, everybody. Everybody say hi, Kaylan. Hi, Caitlin. Wonderful. Great job, guys. I love Caitlin. Me and Caitlin have been friends for quite some time, and we get to walk through life together. The same light that she feels I've been to her, she's been too many. I'm so grateful for you.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Thank you for being here today. the faith in me that caused me to show up in your season was because my commitment to who God called me to be had nothing to do with your lack of ability to let people in. There are times where you have to be the Christ to your neighbor. You sincerely have to take responsibility for the people in your community. I'm not saying make everybody in this room your responsibility, but your individual personal circle. When it's about mine, I'm at the door. I don't know about everybody else.
Starting point is 00:36:19 And Caitlin sees him as she so shared transparently and not understand her fertility journey and being diagnosed with the vitriosis. She didn't know what every day was going to come with and sometimes she didn't have the words. I had the understanding from God to go over to her house and bring her food. I had the understanding from God to go over to house and check on her, to call her, to text her, to make sure she was okay.
Starting point is 00:36:40 I'm not asking anybody to go get the moon out of the sky and bring it back. What I am asking you to do is make sure your walk with Christ is applicable in your everyday life. There are some things that we just make way too big of anything. Nobody asks you to stand on this pool pit next Sunday and come with a sermon. I didn't ask you to jump and do 12 backflips. tumble across the stage or come here with a song and dance in my private life i know that i'm assigned to caylin so if she doesn't have the words well i guess i got to go figure out what she has to say if she doesn't have anything but tears well i guess i'm supposed to sit here if she gets she doesn't
Starting point is 00:37:22 know how to say she hasn't eaten today well i'm going to make sure i dropped something off just to get she didn't but in my heart to honor god you have to make sure that the people in your life if you love them like you say you do be about it not in the good seasons not in the bad seasons not when it looks fine not when there's a camera around not when all we're standing here
Starting point is 00:37:44 as an opportunity there would be no need for one another to be in each other's lives if God didn't know we needed each other pick a person, walk with them and be about it I don't know I'm
Starting point is 00:38:02 You're going to end on that note, guys. I've enjoyed just listening to you guys to talk both of you guys. Are amazing. Thank you for joining me. You guys enjoyed the conversation? Yes. Thank you so much. I'm Lauren La Rosa.
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