The Breakfast Club - Young Thug says Glorilla is ugly AF. The Bag Fuel podcast joins Loren LoRosa to break it down!

Episode Date: September 5, 2025

Loren and the Bag Fuel hosts have a nuanced and entertaining conversation about relationships, Young Thug, Glorilla and moreYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com.../listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:21 This is the latest with Lauren. Rosa, this is your daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment news, exclusives, and all of the conversations that shake the room, baby. Now, today, if you guys can't tell, I am not in here alone for those of our, you know, our audio listeners, y'all. We got five million people plus listening. They're called our low riders. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:02:43 The low riders. Yes. So say hi to the low riders. Like low-riders. Yes. Six, four bouncing. Period. So, yes, we have the people listening, but then we also have the people who are.
Starting point is 00:02:54 watching also low riders as well but the video audience and their attitude is a lot different than the audio audience so i talked to them a little differently you know you know how that go guys um on today's episode with me here in the studio first guest on the podcast i like that first guest on the podcast in the new studio i have the amazing voices and personalities of the of the bag fuel podcast you guys have been uh all over the place viral everywhere everywhere. So of you. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Yes. I might have had a couple of moments. No, no. You're not outside. I'm TMZ and all this other stuff. CNN and all. CNN? You got to say breakfast club just just just the way you came on the breakfast club.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Television. Was a big viral moment. Come on stop. Come on. No, no. I said I have moments where y'all are like what I admire about you guys, especially because like being in the content space, I don't think people understand that it's like,
Starting point is 00:03:54 like really a job to be consistent. Y'all are very consistent. Appreciate it. Thank you. You don't feel like, why you breathe like that? No, no. Because it is a job. Because you understand.
Starting point is 00:04:02 People just be thinking it's, uh, we're on time too. Yeah, we hate being late. We're not talking about you. No, no, no, no. No, no, I'm not. No, no. No, but you're on time.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Yeah, yeah, but we're good. We're just talking about that just in what goes on in the normal perspective of hip hop and meeting and stuff. Everybody's always late. Yeah, they love being late. They're special. We don't think they're special. We want to be.
Starting point is 00:04:24 on time. We always strive to work the best. I haven't been doing this that long. I'm saying so I'm not even doing it. About four or five years now. First of all, I think separately you guys should introduce yourself to the audience. Okay. I mean, you want to flip a quarter to go first?
Starting point is 00:04:39 You go first. They call me Heineken. Yes, I'm Haitian. No, I'm not on Ossambic. Yes. Everything else you've heard about me is 90% true. And I'm single for the rest of my life. God.
Starting point is 00:04:55 We'll unpack that in a little bit. Oh, yeah, we can talk. He asks questions. Everybody say hi, honey king. Yeah, low riders, we see you. I feel like we had a meeting right now. That whole I'm single for the rest of my life. Felt like you need a community.
Starting point is 00:05:07 No, I want no communities. But I give relationship advice to married men and men in relationship. Oh, yeah. Even though I'm single, I give the greatest therapy. You do? Yes, and it always works. Because you know whom I need you and we're going to get into that on this episode? Who?
Starting point is 00:05:22 Young thug. Oh, I got. him okay we're gonna get there he has to go back to jail to save his relationship okay yeah I know he's different very different because what are he's serious though it's your turn now you introduce yourself I'm ESS so everyone sees sounds official one half a bag fuel and from south side jamaica queens I've been in the music business for about 30 years now got you got you well here on the show we do um I mean I don't know if you guys have ever listened or tuned down but we do like a breakdown of like entertainment topics or whatever.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Today we're just going to stick on one topic because I feel like between the three of us, we'll be in here for five hours talking if we do three. So on my way over here, there's been a lot of conversation around Young Thug and the jail audios and, you know, all of the things, right? Yes. Now, first of all, just in general,
Starting point is 00:06:15 I heard you guys talking as I was getting ready about how you feel about just the audios from the jail phone calls being linked in general. Yeah, yes. It's a nice rollout because Young Thug embarrassed the Atlanta court system. That was the biggest court case in the whole Georgia. So money was spent. You had lawyers that were doing only fans to supplement their income,
Starting point is 00:06:40 which you know about that, right? You had lawyers getting with the defendants and all that. Are you talking about a home girl? They reportedly just had a baby. Yes. And he embarrassed the system because, you know, Fani needed that. for her re-election probably she has political aspirations
Starting point is 00:06:58 so and hip hop is the biggest target because you know it brings headlines there's no more mobsters there's no more cartel leaders so young thugs face card is enough to catapult you in a stratosphere so now since he got off and he's
Starting point is 00:07:13 been free we need to embarrass him this is a rollout right now currently so you feel like Hyneken this is a targeted attack yes he's under attack Yes. That's how you do to work. Oh, he's definitely under tag.
Starting point is 00:07:28 You heard us talking about it. I said, I don't know who he pissed off. He pissed off somebody. They're coming for his head, pause right now, because anything that's going to make him look bad, now they just leak the Glorilla thing. Yes, yep. They just leaked that he's talking bad about Gloria.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Yes. Gloria, you're in the media. It keeps rolling now. You know what a rollout is. Come on. You had a famous rollout, y'all. Who? Me?
Starting point is 00:07:52 What's my rollout? Oh, my God. Loisela Rosa. Well, what's my rollout? Let's stay on time. Let's stay on time. I didn't have no rollout. We can talk about this stuff on bags.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Yeah, later. Okay, guys, because this is the latest. We're going to be, no, listen, we can enter time because what I want the audience to know is you guys are here because we will be doing a sit down for backfield for you guys show as well. So make sure if you guys are listening here and y'all hear kind of the appetizer to the craziness, go get the full entree because we will be doing that sit down. But I do have those jokes. calls. And I want to start, before we get to Young Thug with Glorilla, I want to back up a bit because there was also
Starting point is 00:08:31 one recently released with Little Dirk, or him Young Thug talking or discussing Little Dirk. Let's take a listen to that one first. So that's the second one that I sent you, Laura. It got to be. What's up with the boy, Dirt? You're going to be a lot of dirt? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:46 You need to make that thing. You need to make that thing. I don't know. You know, I need a lot of player shit for the boy, too, though, when the boy career went, where it pulled a bin, man, Pluto. I would really, like, like, get really fucking with him. But he, I don't know. He's acting a little different. I don't like that, man. What you mean? Like, what he, he, I didn't fit him a few songs. He just, like, um, shit, I know for sure going right up on, or going right up. He just got down, taking their time,
Starting point is 00:09:16 you know, nigga, man, four, five days, day, day later, just, like, they're little type shit, like, man, you got going on, huh? Yeah. Yeah, I already love you. Like, man, niggina did too much shit for you. Man, watch out, me. Yeah. He did that, the lay-am, though.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Yeah, I want him the moment that happened. Yeah, yeah. He sent a song for Malia app. Yeah, he sent a song for it. Then, got damn, when he's trying to clear the song, now he'll clear the song, so the song that made the album. He didn't quit. Man, didn't clear it.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Didn't clear the song. What did you mean? He didn't clear the song. He worked out with me. Then you get on the internet, keep talking about, this is that, dude, this is that, man. That cap-ass shit. All right, man.
Starting point is 00:10:02 He rap's crazy, boy. You rap a hell, boy. One thing I'm going to say, if this is the target attack, right? The alleged target attack that you guys are saying. Listen to, I have to catch you. They know exactly. Somebody in there is so good with hip-hop media and just media in general. They know exactly who to talk about and what to talk about.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Lauren. What calls the poor. It's the police. They know everything. Yes, but I will, but, okay, so the police know everything. They know who everyone is. Of course. The timing of a lot of this is very like, I feel like I'm dealing with another like news journalist at this point.
Starting point is 00:10:38 It's like some of the things that they're releasing as they're releasing them, like the Kendrick and Drake right around the time Drake sits with Bobby. Like that's, I don't know, y'all know cops that pay attention to that type of stuff. You know how many cops made detective watching World Star videos? Yeah, but understanding timing and relevance of, like, news, conversation, and trend, that's a whole different conversation. That's what I do as a producer. Hold on. I need you to cook first. So we can start. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Go ahead. Finish. First of all, let me show you how systematically they're attacking him. Dirk, that means he can never go to the Midwest. Glorilla, that means he's no good west of Atlanta. They're putting him to a point that he's only going to have to live in Utah. Think about it. Everybody, they're going against.
Starting point is 00:11:24 He can't be in them towns. You're a snitch now. You can't go to the West Coast. Utah. Now, why, something's going to drop with him and NBA young boy. And he's not going to be able to go there because the NBA young boy be there too. Of course. But Lauren, who the hell held on to the tape since 2015?
Starting point is 00:11:40 Yeah, why they never dropped it? Why is nobody even talking about that? They dropped this shit from 2015 with him snitching. Who held on to the tape? But that interrogation conversation with thug. That wasn't. do? It wasn't? No, that was not. There had been a conversation prior to this about what was said and what wasn't said when I think his name is Peebee, right?
Starting point is 00:12:02 The guy that shot up the tour bus. But there was no proof, though, was it? I remember, and I don't know exactly how I remember, but I remember there being a conversation about who said what and when and there being a conversation about what was thugs rolling at, but it was never discussed the way it's being discussed right now. That's the point. Then they say, yeah, but then they say thug was snitching on somebody. in the tape, right? Well, because in the tape, he's, so what he said was,
Starting point is 00:12:29 I wish I could have sent her an interrogation tape, but what he said, basically he was, he was saying enough, and from Thug's opinion, he was saying just enough to clear his friend,
Starting point is 00:12:39 to clear, oh boy, right? Who ended up coming out and saying, look, he good at my book because what he did, we're fine. So if y'all are running with the snitch, allegations,
Starting point is 00:12:48 whatever, but even removing it from like the snitch, not snitch, whatever, because I don't feel like that even sticks as hard as people think that it does for certain people. I also feel like two of you guys look at how the conversations are happening around Thug versus not when the conversation was around Gunna, people were allowed about how they felt. We're not doing this with him. We're not doing that with him.
Starting point is 00:13:08 You're not seeing that with Thug. So even if people do decide to distance their stuff, in my opinion, there's a different level of respect for him that I don't know, even if artists choose to not do certain things, if it will impact him the same way people thought it would impact a gunner or it did impact like a Takashi 6-9. Like I just think that there's a different level of respect for him It just it feels that way anyway How do you know what I'm saying people are not loud about Lauren what you just said is the most dangerous thing
Starting point is 00:13:32 I think people are yes people are talking about it But do you feel like they're discussing it differently than how gunner situation Yeah because we got experience with this now because it's a lot of niggins that snitching now Like we're learning that snitching is just a way of life if people ever watch back few I said this two years ago I said the street code I said there is no code it's fake there is nothing snitching was invented by street niggas you got to be a street nigga you got to be a criminal to be a snitch period so who was the first snitch a civilian that don't make no sense a civilian can't snitch so when you're paying attention to what's
Starting point is 00:14:05 really going on out here you really know what's what's happening what's going on and thug and what thug and what they're saying he's doing what everybody's saying about rat lana and all the rest of the stuff that's really going on. This is a problem. It's an ongoing problem of people thinking that, oh, somebody go and say something about somebody and lead them the wrong way, then that's cool. It's not cool.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Because then you're ridiculing the same man for saying he did the same thing, correct? Yeah. But now they're under, now niggas is saying, yo, I'm not going to come out on high because, yo, Gunner had a number one hit. Yep. That's what they're saying.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Damn, I put myself on one side, but they're still pushing the rap so gun so what if thug come out and thug got a number one hit too and people want to forget about what what thug did i don't want to say nothing anymore can i ask an honest question i am so removed from all of this i'm a civilian i want nothing to do with none of the right thing at all whatever whatever right why does this matter amongst these artists who are so rich and don't have to bust a gun another day in their life if they chose not to why does this matter i don't think you're going to like my answer i want to hear an answer Because also, too, when I'm hearing them rap about certain things, now, like them now.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Thug, as big as he is as a, Thug is not just like rapper. Thug is like a pop star. He's a high talk. Right? As famous as he is now, I don't, even if he is doing it, my mind doesn't instantly go to he's out here in the streets really doing blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Right? He is a superstar.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Why does any of this even matter at all at this point? Like, why do we care how people look at him, not look at him? He's still going to have a core audience. Everybody still has an audience. A long time ago, and I'm going to let Esso clean this up, he said, no matter how far removed you get, the streets are undefeated. Women love being outside in the streets. And when I mean the streets going on vacations.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Yeah. And here's the thing. And we're going to unpack this topic. Is that simple? Yes. The streets are undefeated. Drake went to a white girl to cry about acceptance from hip hop. Why not go to black people?
Starting point is 00:16:13 Because the streets matter. Does it make sense? No. But Drake is not no street artist. But he cares about the streets. Does it make sense, Lauren? No. It does, but I just don't feel like, I don't think that, like granted, like I just said,
Starting point is 00:16:30 I'm a civilian removed whatever, whatever, but I'm not no dummy. I grew up around certain. But you're outside. Right, but this is my thing, though. I don't think, there's no way that you could really be in the streets in a way that anybody would need to feel like they need to approve from you anyway and be this big Celebrities. Lauren, pause.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Who of them? Hold on, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I'm not going to name no names. And somebody crashes and burns. I'm not going to name no names, but these niggas is in the street. Stop thinking because they.
Starting point is 00:16:55 You can't be that deep into it. Lauren. Lauren, La Rosa. Lauren Lerosa. I've been doing this for 30 years. These niggas is in the street. These niggas will tell you. I'd be like, yo, bro.
Starting point is 00:17:10 I just saw my man just told me so and so, so, so, so. got the work and so on, so and so on, so. Why are these niggas? Why are these niggas dealing with the street niggas? Hold on. Why are they putting work on the streets? And all these people will be like, yo, these niggas just they just want to be
Starting point is 00:17:27 in tune with the streets. It's undefeated. Okay? They want a street bitch. I don't want that superstar bitch that really likes me. I don't want her. I don't want her. I don't want her. I don't want her. I want the girl from Southside Rochdale member teenie that grew up. and she got the bubble and all that,
Starting point is 00:17:45 that's the one that I want. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin, so, like, it's not, like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?
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Starting point is 00:22:19 on this show. After we cut off the camera, I'm going to be a shock. I'm going to just show you, I'm going to just show you how the topest, topist niggas still is in the street. I'm going to show you. Let me show you something. Right up the shit. Women get dragged for being ridiculous about a lot
Starting point is 00:22:35 of shit. Women will leave their man for a horoscope. That's the same level of ridiculous. I love women. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I love them.
Starting point is 00:22:45 No. I told you. I love them. No, that's crap. You got some issues. No. Are we becoming friends? We're becoming friends.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Okay. So I'm honest with my friends. I'm probably too honest. Let me ask you something. The minute that you introduce yourself to the love writer. You want me to a liar? You said I'm single and I never, what do you say? I'm never going to be a relationship.
Starting point is 00:23:05 I'm not like you want to be lonely and miserable. No, no. I'm never lonely. Oh, I never said that. That's crazy. I'm still outside. I'm just not in a relationship. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Well, we'll deal with your issues. But what I'm saying is, the same way with the horoscopes, because men don't care like that. It's the same thing with the street stuff with men. It's that level of ridiculousness. We're like, why do you care? This don't make no sense.
Starting point is 00:23:28 So I'm giving the same equivalency. A man would be like, I don't get why a woman's into horoscope. You just love street niggas more than the girls love them now. Yes, this is the biggest. There you go. So the niggins see another street niggian and they want to be him.
Starting point is 00:23:41 These diggas is so stupid. I understand the acceptance thing and I understand that, but I just feel like when you really come from it and you get to a certain point where you're removed and you're safe
Starting point is 00:23:49 and not even safe, but like, you just, you're making a life for yourself. It's like, why do you even like... Lauren, I'm not trying to run circle. You're too intelligent for this combo. I wish everybody was. We wouldn't be here.
Starting point is 00:24:02 We wouldn't have no jail costs. I'm going to tell you one thing you're overlooking. One thing. These niggas are dumb. Men are dumb All they're not men We're not going to talk about Because they're women that are dumb
Starting point is 00:24:14 We're going to leave it to where you was talking Where was the discussion at Yes People that still want to be in the streets Okay boom We're going to leave it there We're not going to talk about men Because if women want to be in the streets
Starting point is 00:24:24 Men want to be in the streets too Okay There you go These people Because I'm going to tell you about women ganks I just talked about women ganks They're just walking up to me Talking about that they want to be
Starting point is 00:24:33 So they track queens And all Everybody got to relax Okay Everybody in the streets, everybody in the streets, everybody got to relax. Everybody know I've been in the street. It's no secret. It's not the move.
Starting point is 00:24:48 It's not sexy. And I don't say that. I say the streets is unfair. They don't teach us young kids that when you're trying to go out there and get money and do things, they don't show you that it's unfair. Right. And people get caught up in that lifestyle. That's my point.
Starting point is 00:25:01 It's like when you finally get out and away from all of that, I know I'm like probably like very hopefully speaking I just would love to think that once you start seeing some it's like So they get undone no no no no no no no not undone but would you at least admit that some people sometimes get to a certain point where they know that like they like thug right now should know he's hot he can't do anything if he ever thought he could people that they care too much about him if what you guys are saying are true this is a coordinated attack imagine him trying to go out and be in the streets right now that would be stupid right that's the point right that he could burn out and do that but what i'm saying but what i'm saying is is that i would like to think that when you get to where he is right where you've had to go through things and you realize things you whatever you'd be like nah i'm gonna just chill i'm gonna give you an example you you are the preeminent go-to figure to all the stuff with the ditty case quote unquote right
Starting point is 00:25:57 no let me show you something no let me show you something he's older he's been outside and And when everything was happening, he was still outside partying, making apologies that wasn't sincere, doing the same thing, having malfunctions in real time. Right. So if that's Diddy doing that, what do you expect from Thug? They're going to learn from what Puffy did. Are you sure? Doug isn't outside. This stuff is old.
Starting point is 00:26:22 They're surfacing. But not anybody that got anything. Let me ask you say, you think this is the last tape to come out? No, no, no, no. Oh, they're going to keep it going. That was the longest running case in Georgia State. Hell, no, he got more tapes. So then if you keep hitting the wall, eventually it's going to crack, that's the point.
Starting point is 00:26:41 And they're going to try to, they're trying to get out of them. Speaking of more tapes, there was another one that also released. This one is newer. This one actually came out, what was this, yesterday, today? Is this the Gloverlla? No, yeah, that's just, I just saw this today, Glorilla. I saw it right before you walked in. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:54 That's tough. What are you going to say? I'm a part of the coordinator of the day? No, we're so. Please, Clairefly. What? Uh-uh. Come on. No, no, listen, I don't want no beef with you.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Lauren, I don't want to be with you. Y'all heard him. I saw it right before you walked in. What you're trying to say? I'm going to tell y'all. This girl saw us at a barbecue and walked up on me like she had a gun. So I ain't going to be no Lauren LaRosa slander. Oh, speaking to which. You had a lot of girls mad at me, too.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Why? They was like, I tell you talk to my friend like that and I saw you talking to her and everything. You were looking like steak again. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I owe you. Oh, you're talking about at the barbecue day was mad at you? Yeah. When you ran down and we was talking.
Starting point is 00:27:32 They were looking and when you walked. Oh, you didn't tell, I don't know that it was like, because people, I think I, I mean. You didn't do nothing wrong. No, I know I didn't. Yeah. I'm like, girly, but like, people don't know that, mind you, I didn't, my energy is not ever, like, it's a bit aggressive. Oh, yeah. It's a bit of aggressive.
Starting point is 00:27:49 It's a bit, but I think people don't expect that from me. So they probably, I know what they thought the conversation was, but I was like, yo, what's up? Like, why y'all talk about? I don't want to come and all that. Like, I'm here. Like, you, I'm not hard to find. Like, what's up? That was what the conversation was.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Oh, but for the optically, oh, damn. The rollout was beautiful. That's how you talk to her. She was all made up and everything. The conversation, niggas was on. When I walked past it, when she stopped me, she was talking to a niggas. Don't do that. Because I got to make it and y'all about to make that real.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Because that was not what was happening. I was saying hello to everybody in the barbecue. Do not do that. Okay? We are not going to do that one. Y'all trying to spice it or whatever. No, I got video. I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:28:29 I was talking to shit. Shiggy when you walk by. Nah, that wasn't shiggy you're talking to. But we're going to leave it alone. We're going to move on. What you're talking about right now? We're going to move on.
Starting point is 00:28:40 You're a part of the coordinated attack. What is happening right now? Glorilla audio, jail called. Let's bring that with you. I saw the girl on the girls, the girl, gorilla.
Starting point is 00:28:55 She, yeah. Why don't people say she pretty? That'd be ugly as fuck. You think she ugly? You said it. Like, yeah, they say she ain't ugly. People, me, niggas be saying she ain't man. They're saying she looked like Rihanna.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Man, p. They like goddamn Brianna. And watch out. Oh, man. She look like Rihon. Well, I don't got bullshit, that wig, skinny shit. Got damn big head head, big mouth. Man, watch out.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Now the crazy thing about that audio is Glorilla tweeted in response Mind you, this is the same nigga blowing my phone up to ask what color my eyes is laugh my ass off But you know what that play is about now Because he's with his lady Now it's internal strife
Starting point is 00:29:45 It's systematic It's easy work And if he loses his lady That traumatizes dudes They'd be like damn I lost my main girl That I actually like being around Because she's like
Starting point is 00:29:57 So did you fuck her? You'd be like no you sound like you did or you want to you don't like me so he's getting intact internally he's getting attacked publicly privately this is systematically this siops right here is amazing y'all you be mansplaining like that all the time mansplaining what because how did you miss the whole point of you thug is sitting on the phone with his girlfriend right having a full conversation about this girl downplaying this girl dragging this girl you got your girlfriend engaged in the whatever and your girlfriend's not just anybody she's marietta sciences who we've already seen you know you
Starting point is 00:30:30 Y'all had a little public, like, we saw the girl come visit you. You had to get a line and all apologies, right? So here she is about to be embarrassed again because now Guarola. Now Guarola is coming again saying, or coming now and saying, hold on, wait. You're talking about who trying to smack. You asked him what color of my eyes. Did you think you want to color her eyes because he wants the contacts the match? No, that's the point.
Starting point is 00:30:50 And even if she's with it, now everybody going to be in her ear. Oh, you let your man do that. You know, people are fake judgmental. How are you? It's not true? But how are you getting that from this? Your takeaway should be your that's messed up. Why is he even discussing Gloria, knowing you wanted to do this?
Starting point is 00:31:08 Let's not do this. Men and women talk like this candidly and privately. He doesn't know he's being taped like that. If he's not paying attention, they just leaking a private convoy. That's just what it is. Can I ask you a question? Did we see Gloria's DMs? Or did she just say this?
Starting point is 00:31:25 This is what I'm going to say. This is what I'm going to say, though. We didn't see him. But if you're Glorilla in the midst of all of this, saying that, you know the next step is people going to want to see, especially because he has a girlfriend. So Mariah of scientists, naturally, I mean, I want to see. If I'm her, hey, well, post the text. I want to see it because it's not even about me and you, Mariahist, scientists, and Glorilla. It's I need to have a conversation with him because why are we even discussing somebody that, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:31:53 Whether he had that conversation early on and his interaction with Glorilla came later or his interaction with Glorilla was a long time. time ago, and then he had the conversation, regardless, it happened, and I need to understand everything. That's exactly. So, Marilla knows she might have to show some receipts, so I'm, she don't strike me as a type to just get online and say that. Does she strike you as that? I've never met her.
Starting point is 00:32:13 She doesn't strike me as that type. Yeah, but either way, now, he's jammed up either way, whether she's with, let's just say his girl is with the action. Now, people that's in his girl's life are going to be asking her questions. Oh, yeah, of course. It's already questioned. Exactly. So that's why I'm coming from.
Starting point is 00:32:31 He's been stood by a homeboy this time. Yeah. The girl then came in jail. She's the faithful woman. Now this is something else that could be going on. You know what I'm saying? He's supposedly bad news. He's a street guy.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Her father is supposedly a cop, an ex-cop, and all this place. We already know how that type of stuff goes down. People start talking like, you're going to have to start distancing yourself from him, babes. Because of her, like, work and all the things. Exactly. It could hurt her career. But Mariah, the scientists rolled that wave out the whole time, though.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Even after old girl came to the, there was the videos of the visit that leaked and all that. She rolled that out. Maybe she let some, I can curse up here? Yeah, you can curse them. Maybe she lets some fuck. You know, people got regular, you know, people got relationships, they got open relationship, they got open relationship, they got, we don't know that. They'd be probably, but maybe she lets some fucking. Maybe it isn't a big deal.
Starting point is 00:33:25 I will say, though, after that visit happened, where. Devin Haney's child's mom came and saw Young Thug. The way Young Thug came online and had to clarify, I only want this, and you know what I mean? And throwing his love towards Mariah to Sciences, it didn't seem like it was an open situation, but we don't know. I mean, this is all, it's all a movie. So she don't, like, we know people live different type of personal lives,
Starting point is 00:33:50 and you know what your family knowing, like, I'm letting him do whatever, or we do menages, or we do this. So you got to come out and say something because if you don't say anything, that means you're allowing this. And this is cool. I mean, but Lauren, in fairness, you went through this.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Who? What you mean? What you mean? Because what? No, I'm just not like that. Wait for now. No, we're not doing that. No, I'm just trying to figure out, like,
Starting point is 00:34:18 what men you associated me with that I don't have been there to come in She's talking about false speculation. You only got so much many and, oh, babe, I made a mistake before the mistake Becoming too much. No, but what I'm saying is when y'all went through that, right, publicly, how people were looking at it. I'm pretty sure people were hitting your phone, making up stories. That's not true. Making up. But people have their opinions and you do get the noise. But the noise, then people take the noise into another stratosphere. You dig what I'm saying? Yeah. And then your close confidants are hitting you, you can give them whatever the real perspective is.
Starting point is 00:34:51 But it's over and over and over again. Your DMs, your messages, your Twitter, all of that, you know? same same rules apply but i meant but that's why i said this is not her first rodeo with that though because once once that happens one time right and then you realize like okay i might can't pick up the phone for everybody i might can't give everybody my perspective or voice my opinion because then now and they make you know what i mean you learn kind of how to navigate a situation this is not her first rodeo with there being a conversation about thug another woman his jail sentence in her like her like life you know what i mean like this is not her first time so she knows how she wants to navigate it
Starting point is 00:35:27 and who to pick up the phone for or whatever I think my main point to me this looking crazy it just doesn't it just looks crazy like what's crazy about it specifically if Lorilla is tasked with showing any receipts
Starting point is 00:35:39 and she's able to it looks crazy on the right of scientists part because it is like if there is not no open relationship you've held it down not only did she hold it down but there's been conversations
Starting point is 00:35:50 from his family about how she made sure his kids saw him talk like she really And she's a woman with a very demanding career at that. So obviously she loves this man, right? Guess what you did. What?
Starting point is 00:36:02 You justified the rollout. The rollout of what? The impact of this. If you feel like that there's no open relationship and now Mariah has to now recrystalize what the relationship is and figure it out, these tapes are working. So you're alleging that the state of Georgia is using Mariah to find out to break young thug down. No, everything. And to get there, get back because he embarrassed them.
Starting point is 00:36:27 How many millions did Georgia lose on letting that man go free? I don't know the number. It's a lot. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer. And my mom is a cousin.
Starting point is 00:36:44 So, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality. nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family.
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Starting point is 00:39:50 conversation about exploring human potential. I was going to schools to try to teach kids these skills and I get eye rolling from teachers or I get students who would be like, it's easier to punch someone in the face. When you think about emotion regulation, like you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome as a result of it if it's going to be beneficial to you. Because it's easy to say like go you, go blank yourself, right? It's easy. It's easy to just drink the extra beer. It's easy to ignore to suppress seeing a colleague who's bothering you and just like walk the other way avoidance is
Starting point is 00:40:25 easier ignoring is easier denial is easier drinking is easier yelling screaming is easy complex problem solving meditating you know takes effort listen to the psychology podcast on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts They lost a lot of money. You think white people like losing money to black people? I worked in corporate structures. They're going to get the money back. Look at COVID.
Starting point is 00:40:59 When they gave us all that money, they've been getting it back. I'm going to say this. Because you was big on the ditty case. I'm just going to say this. Before all this stuff went down, he had Rory on Backfield. And I said Rory, the biggest problem with Puffy was Diageo. This is before anybody ever. Oh, him calling him out?
Starting point is 00:41:22 Yo, yo. Yes. I swear to God. We was the first dudes to say this. Yeah. We were the very first that everybody laughed at us. Oh, we're crazy. Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Well, that's, I mean, it's like who you're talking to because anybody knew when you saw that, even if when he was alleging Diageo did, which was not spend marketing dollars right with him and his alcohol brands because he was a black man. Even if that were true, you know that's a crazy uphill battle because you're a black man versus a corporation. There you go. We never found out what was happening, what wasn't. Diageo said that that was not the case.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Rory was in our, was on our show. He said, I worked for Diageo and all this, and y'all have to be crazy to even think one has to do with another. And I say, when it comes to a black man shining, all stops come out for that. So, well, we think thug is not a big deal. I want to ruin the, no, no, no, I'm saying. There you go about, but the way that they're approaching it. Like, yes, I want to ruin his life with Mariah.
Starting point is 00:42:23 I want him to have to deal with women that he can't trust and is going to use him now and run him in the ground. We don't want him to have any backbone. So now we want him to look crazy to everybody that warshift the ground that he walks on. Oh, he's a snitch just like everybody else, player. He's no different. And we're going to run this train all the way down.
Starting point is 00:42:47 whatever the next thing is with thug we want to break his whole train down and you know what happens when you break a nigga train down they go back out to the streets and they go start committing crimes how long is he on probation for I don't even remember the number 10 years I was supposed to say I just remember
Starting point is 00:43:04 no 10 years so we need to break him down to the compound right now the circumstances is crazy too like he can't go to Atlanta he can't like there's a lot of things So now with this attack all he has to do is make one mistake and he's back got him
Starting point is 00:43:17 He only had to make one mistake before these calls, though, y'all. But the mistake that we're talking about is getting him to go back to jail. Oh, you say, like, you're alleging like they're pushing, this is another way to push somebody to the edge. This is how we do black men. Yo, it's not obvious. We're not going to just say we're going to do it. We're going to do it slowly. Yeah, it's a long play.
Starting point is 00:43:37 We're putting you, we're slowly putting you in the corner. And when you get in that corner, you know what you got to do? You got to fight your way out. Now you ain't the same nigger no more. Let me show you a record. But here, okay. What I was going to say. Before we move on.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Yes. Right. If what you guys are alleging is the case. Mm-hmm. Here is me taking it back to personal responsibility again because I ain't never been locked up, but I know the calls are recorded. Why are you on the phone with all this anyway? Wait, what did you say?
Starting point is 00:44:06 Six minutes ago. These niggas are dumb. Thank you. This is giving podcast. Lord of the Rosa. Loy of the roses. That's why I say you're too smart. You're too smart for this girl.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Why is happening? Lorne and Rosa, these niggers are that dumb. And she keeps trying to figure it out. I'm not even trying to figure it out. I guess I'm just. You are too intelligent for this person. I'm calling out the obvious because I would like to think that, I would like to think that someone like a young thug who has been able to navigate so much
Starting point is 00:44:32 which is maybe just, bling, like come on. Lauren, I've been with the, I grew up in the music business. I've been around these guys for years. Guys that's not even around anymore. They don't exist. The new one. yo they're that fucking dumb Her problem is she's only around genius men
Starting point is 00:44:51 Charlemagne envy I don't get around genius men I know stupid men too Yeah but at a high level It's way more higher than the average woman So you have an expectation of intelligence from a man I'm always going to have it even before I'm around Whatever whatever the way I was raised I'm always going to have an expectation for men
Starting point is 00:45:08 That are black men I'm always have expectation for y'all because I know what, when things are applied the right way and done the right way, the brilliance that happened. So that's just me in general. That's just what I give. Did you go on with your father? No, not in my household, no. No, but was he in your life, I mean?
Starting point is 00:45:26 He got in my life around like 14. Okay. Yeah, I mean, we have like a touch and go relationship, but like, we're cool. Like, I can call him and whatever. But my brother's dad was in my life. He didn't live with us, but he was actively in my life. Well, you had one. Yeah, my brother's dad, like, because you're a father-figure.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Because your outlook, I always, I grew up with both my parents in the house, which is very rare. But I do realize that women that have fathers on significant men in their life as leaders, y'all think differently. I don't think like the other women that's out here. I think also, too, though, like I have a younger brother, and I've always been, I mean, I'm the oldest child in the house. So for me and my little brother was like, you know, in and out of things. And, you know, he got into, like, we've had to go through all of this with him. so watching my mom fight for him every step of the way
Starting point is 00:46:13 even today I'd be like yo bro like mom he's grown and she'd be like you won't understand until you have kids yourself especially when you're raising a black man in his world like you don't just give up on them right so for me I think the nurture that that's basically what you're like feeling
Starting point is 00:46:27 there's a nurturing part of me that just will love to hope that one day the dumbness turns off and the light turns on because if not that could cost you your life it could cost you how you provide for your family all those things what about reality reality of the situation is dumb as hell. Why are you being recorded?
Starting point is 00:46:42 If you was trying to figure out what color Glorilla eyes is and it's not because you want the matching context, why are you having a conversation with Mariah the scientists about her? The reality of this is, this is great for content, but it's stupid for his real life. And that's all I'm saying. And for me, I'm tired of being the black dude
Starting point is 00:46:59 being torn down and looking crazy being the topic of discussion. It's slick annoying right now. Like us, people, whatever. You just got to find a way just to do better and be smarter. We're less impulsive. Us black people, we are so passionate about our stuff. But even myself, I could have a tendency to react to things poorly when they don't go my way.
Starting point is 00:47:27 That's a black thing. I see a lot of white people. I don't think that's a black thing. I'm telling you. We are, I feel like we're very, yeah, we're very like animated, passionate, soulful people. That makes it a black. That makes it a black. But to be fair, though, people do wig out in other ways.
Starting point is 00:47:42 We don't shoot up schools when we're tight. That's true. Come on now. We don't smash your kids on our head. See? Let me say this to you. Let me say this. What's up, E?
Starting point is 00:47:54 We sat with ghost face today. We talked about Nause, right? And I asked him a question. Why, like, why do you, what is it about Niz, about his personality and who he is to make trust him so much and whatever? And the first thing he said was he's calm. And that's so different to black people That now, yo, he's calm
Starting point is 00:48:14 It's a sign of weakness sometimes amongst our culture Really? Yes. I feel like as a woman, a calm man to me is a man with a plant Because he is watching all the perimeters He knows what's happening He knows in real time he can think for both of us He's so calm he can feel and understand
Starting point is 00:48:30 Because of how it looks on camera, right? I'd be more laid back So everybody's like he's the mean one And he's like... You are... They say I'm the mean... But it's in reverse. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Really? You mean? Because he goes to... Yeah, I thought... I mean... You just said... I think you hate women and you might have some issues,
Starting point is 00:48:54 but you don't strike me as mean. You're like very like... Outside of women in relationships, you're very jolly and happy. No, he's nice. No, he's nice. We had an incident at the Honey Baby situation.
Starting point is 00:49:05 I had to fix this one girl. Because she lost their mind. She lost her mind. Remember, you know that girl. Yeah, but I'm just saying it's perception things. Yeah. It's funny. Because we laugh about it.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Yeah, it's funny. That is a big thing that we laugh about. Everybody's like, he's the me. And I mean, everybody walks around me. Like, I don't know. Should I approach him. And I'm looking at people like, this nigg is the fucking mean. But, like, I'll be chilling.
Starting point is 00:49:29 I was with my weed. Y'all thought I was me? Before I said something to you, like, before y'all met me in real life. No, I was like, she's fisty. No, I didn't even, no. What happened? I mean that in a good way. I didn't think you were flirting or anything.
Starting point is 00:49:42 It's just your feisty. I thought about you. I'm going to be honest. I didn't know you from the other stuff. And I asked Heineken. I said, TMC. I know your rest. Like, you do amazing work.
Starting point is 00:49:52 And I'm not being funny. I just think that what attracted me to your style and what you do is you're really good at what you do. Yeah. I don't know what it is. Some people. I'm going to tell you what it is. She's a real journalist. Some people.
Starting point is 00:50:05 There's a lot of real journalists. the world of people think that this is like like all my friends get busy like they really like I could call somebody and get and reach people in places you're not supposed to reach them depending on the topic matter because all my friends really do this but I think certain people just have sauce that's what that's my thing you can't pinpoint it right I appreciate it and when it when it's you I think you have it and the other girl I fuck Gina views a lot that's my sister I think you guys feel my girl She got a different type
Starting point is 00:50:37 And I didn't know about her It was a dude from California That called her on the phone And was like yo y'all got to follow each other That's how I found her It was before the head And stuff like that DJ had to take
Starting point is 00:50:48 Because that sound crazy You said it was before the head I was like That was before the DJ head Show she has with him Before effective immediately Shout out to Head too That's my goodness
Starting point is 00:50:59 Yeah so the dude had put us In touch and we follow So I started watching her And I see what she's doing with the freestyle platform but it's the sauce that's in it it's whatever she's doing
Starting point is 00:51:12 before the people push out the way it's the idea it's the shirts that she has that kicks back to what she's doing all of that is swagged me
Starting point is 00:51:21 all that is sauce that's all that is different everybody don't have that you know what I'm saying so that's what I look for and I'm not big on I don't really watch content
Starting point is 00:51:31 so I just see whatever catches my eye you know what I'm saying and those type of things catch my eye. Well, I appreciate that. Well, y'all, we got it in the episode because our editors are going to be screaming at me, but it has been an amazing episode. Thank you guys for joining me
Starting point is 00:51:45 on the podcast. Y'all pop the studios cherry. Thank you. We appreciate the hospitality. Usually when we do that, the numbers be going crazy. Crazy, man. I appreciate you guys for joining me. So, listen, this has been another episode of the latest with Lauren La Rosa. I tell you guys all the time
Starting point is 00:52:04 my lowriders. At the end of the day, I could be anywhere with anybody having these conversations, talking about all these things, because there's always a lot to talk about, but you guys are always right here with me, and I appreciate you guys for it. I'll catch you guys in my next episode. In the heat of battle, your squad relies on you.
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