The Bridge with Peter Mansbridge - A Wednesday End Bits Special - How to Deal With Border Phone Searches
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And hello there, Peter Mansbridge here.
You're just moments away from the latest episode of The Bridge.
It's Wednesday, and it's an N-Bit special this week.
Coming right up.
And hello there.
Welcome to Wednesday.
Welcome to this Wednesday's N-Bit special.
As you know, not all Wednesdays are a new episode.
We basically have Wednesdays for Encore editions.
But some of you have said you really like these NBid specials,
and they're easy to do.
It's basically me just reading,
and my good friend Mark Bulgutch doing the research,
he finds all this stuff.
He's an amazing guy.
Mark, as you know, has co-authored number of books with me.
He does all the heavy lifting on these things,
let me tell you.
We have a new one coming out later this year.
I can't tell you anything about it yet.
But I can tell from the letters that I received from many of you,
that many of you are really going to enjoy this book.
I think everyone will enjoy it.
I think it's an important part of our,
it's an important part of our lives,
the focus on this book.
So without saying any more,
it'll come out this fall of 2026
and I guess it'll be a couple of months from now
we'll be able to tell you a little more about it
the major writing is done
we're just in editing now
and we have a title
we have ideas on a book cover
we've got a number of things going
but we're looking forward to working with
Simon and Schuster once again
is our publisher, and we'll be seeing that.
In the meantime, Mark loves to shovel stuff to me on a weekly basis as potential
end bits for a Wednesday program.
That's when he's not, you know, writing books or writing his column.
I don't know how many of you have seen it before.
Those in Southern Ontario probably have, but everybody can access it.
He has a Saturday column.
in the Toronto Star.
And it's always good.
It could be about anything.
So Saturdays are a big day for us.
I have my newsletter, the buzz,
comes out Saturday mornings.
And Saturday mornings is when Mark's column appears
in the Toronto Star as well.
So, okay, there's the plug for Mark.
In terms of N-Bits today,
here's how we're going to start.
I don't know how many times you
crossed the border if at all into the United States last year
but if you did
you've probably heard about
and we're concerned about the issue about your phone
and whether or not it was going to be searched
I think the assumption most of us take
and when I think about it
I think I only crossed the border
once last year
which is really odd for me.
I usually half a dozen times at least a year.
But last year I turned down a number of invites to the States.
And I think I only cross once.
And when I did cross, I was particularly concerned about this phone issue
and about, you know, American border officials searching the phone.
And what I mean?
I mean searching, I mean searching, going through everything on your phone.
now I'm not sure you want people doing that
and especially so
if you've ever said anything
in even a joking fashion
about the current U.S. President
because that
may cause you all kinds of problems
at the border
so the New York Times wrote a piece
about what your rights are with your phone
and it was mainly for Americans but not just Americans
in terms of phone searches for when they were coming into the country
and being checked by U.S. customs.
So the same goes for us when we're going into the country.
There are a few differences.
They have certain rights, obviously, as American citizens
that we don't have as Canadian citizens,
unless they're a dual citizens,
or unless you're a Canadian who has a green card
allowing you to work in the U.S.
So given all those,
qualifiers. Let me get some highlights from the New York Times piece. And as always with the
N-bit specials, I tend to read some of the story. This one was written by Gabe Castro Root
in the New York Times just a couple of days ago. So I'm not going to read it all, but I'll read
parts of it. When U.S. border agents turned away a French scientist in March after searching
his phone, the French authorities cried foul, blaming messages commenting on President Trump's
policies for the decision. U.S. officials denied that politics had played a role, but the
incident left some travelers with an urgent question. Are such searches even legal? The short
answer is yes. The U.S. customs and border protection agents have broad authority to look through
travelers' phones, laptops, and other electronic devices, under an exception to the Fourth
Amendment's protection against warrantless searches. Customs of Border Patrol in the U.S.
conducted 55,318 searches of electronic devices at ports of entry in fiscal 2025,
according to the agency. Now, that sounds like a lot of searches, more than 55,000.
and it's up from the previous two years.
Though keep this in mind,
the number represents only about 0.01%
of the nearly 420 million travelers
who entered or exited the country by air,
land, and sea in fiscal year 2025.
Now,
that would suggest the odds are very, very slim.
You're going to be searched.
But I tell you, when I went in, I was freaked by the possibility.
I took a burner phone.
In other words, I left my major phone at home,
and I just had another one that had nothing on it and used it.
Now, the customs people say the searches are conducted to detect digital contraband.
terrorism-related content,
and information relevant to visitor admissibility,
all of which play a critical role in national security.
That may be true,
but an increasing number of travelers report
being questioned about legally protected online speech
when crossing the border.
So here are a number of questions you've got to keep in mind.
Do I have to unlock my device?
say your device is locked.
You go through customs and they say unlock it.
Well, agents can demand access to any travelers' electronics at a port of entry for any reason.
Now, remember, if you're a U.S. citizen, different things apply to you.
Then if you're a Canadian citizen or somebody other than an American,
you've pretty much got to do what they ask you to do there
or you can refuse to unlock
and they can refuse to let you into the country.
It's a personal choice that may depend on what information you're carrying,
said one of the officials for speech, privacy, and technology
at the American Civil Liberties Union.
If you're a doctor whose phone holds private information about patients, for example,
or if you're a journalist with confidential sources,
you may be less willing to enter your passcode for a Border Patrol officer to open your phone.
During a basic search, an officer looks through the device by hand,
but in rare cases, agents can perform an advanced or first.
forensic search during which they can copy a device's contents onto a government computer for
further analysis. You don't want that. No matter what you've got on your phone. A forensic
search may even be able to one or some files that a device's owner had deleted. Say you've got
stuff on there you don't want anybody to see. You don't want yourself. You delete it. It's
possible for them to uncover the deleted data as well.
I can recall once being told by somebody who is in this particular business of
dismantling phones that there is nothing that he couldn't get off that phone, that had
ever been on that phone, no matter whether it was deleted or not.
And this wasn't just some, you know, tech.
happy guy. This was somebody whose business it was to open up phones.
Let me just cut to the quick here. How can you protect your data?
Create strong passcodes using a complex string of numbers, letters, and special characters.
if you prefer a numerical code
opt for more digits
the longer it is the better
update your software
using the latest operating system
will reduce the chances
of border patrol people
gaining access to your device
if you refuse to unlock it
buy a second phone
that's what I did
leave your emails, photos
and other sensitive information
on your devices at home
Turn off your device before going through customs.
Powering it down more fully encrypts the data,
didn't know that, privacy experts said,
and disables facial or fingerprint recognition
when the device is first turned on.
You can also turn off biometrics in your device's settings.
Okay, this is getting pretty technical for me.
keep your device in airplane mode
the border patrol says it will search
only information that is resident upon the device
at the time it is presented for inspection
and officers may not search information
that is solely stored in the cloud
back up your device to the cloud
and erase it before going through customs
you can re-download your data later on.
Trust me, it's easier just to buy a burner phone.
Keep in mind that if you turn off your device or disconnected from the internet,
you may not have access to digital boarding passes.
Actually, this is the best piece of advice I got in here.
Be careful what you do on your regular phone.
when you're turning it off or disconnecting it from the internet
because you won't see your boarding passes or travel itineraries.
So remember the old boarding pass, the hard copy one?
Get those.
Have those.
If an agent takes your device, ask for a receipt.
Border Patrol, U.S. Border Patrol says it provides travelers whose devices are seized
with a document detailing who with the agency will be there.
Point of contact and how to reach them.
And once you get your device back, just to be safe, change your passcode.
Okay.
News you can use, right?
For those of you who travel.
By plane, by train, by car.
by bike
Here's another phone story
This is from
The Gothamist.com
Never heard of that.
I don't know where Mark found this one.
The headline is
New York City phone ban
reveals some students
can't read clocks.
This sounds like the best excuse going.
Right?
This is in some areas of New York City, they've banned phones in the classrooms, right?
So the complaint from the students is not, I want my phone bag.
It's, I don't know what time it is.
I don't know how to read a clock.
Please, come on.
It's to the point where some New York City teachers say it's time for a refresher on old-fashioned clocks.
Tiana Millen, an assistant principal at Cardoza High School in Queens,
said this year's ban on smartphones reveal that many teens struggle to read traditional clocks.
That's a major skill that they're not used to at all, she said.
Really?
Overall, Millen said the phone ban has been a major success at the school
and has helped kids focus in class and socialize at lunch.
Foot traffic is moving more swiftly in the hallways.
without eyes glued to their phones,
more students are getting to class on time.
The problem is they don't know it, she said,
because they don't know how to read the clocks.
Now, I do recall, I mean, I've got a good memory for a 77-year-old,
but I can recall back in the day in class learning how to read the clock.
You know, and you draw clocks and you draw times and et cetera, et cetera.
The last time I did that was when I was having my annual physical
and I had to do one of those cognitive tests.
And one of the questions was draw a clock that says 10 after 9.
You'll be very impressed.
I got it right.
For years, going back to this article,
for years parents and teachers have blamed technology
for a range of lapsed skills
from legible handwriting to sustained attention
to reading whole books
even as their proficiency with technology
far outstrips their elders
still while educators
have widely praised New York's statewide smartphone ban
that went into effect in the fall of 26
multiple teachers told Gothamist
that's where this article was found
it has also laid bare an unexpected gap how to tell time
the constant refrained is miss what time is it
said mattie mornowag who teaches high school english in manhattan
it's a source of frustration because everyone wants to know how many minutes are
left in class it finally got to the point where I started saying
where's the big hand where's the little hand
I don't know
I can't believe this
really
they don't know how to read a clock
then again
you know I
I'm a fan of auctions
online auctions
even though I don't
you know I purchase the odd thing but not
not often but I love watching them
and I love reading the catalogs
and seeing what's there
and I
I just started following a number of different
auction houses in the United Kingdom because they have like great stuff right and it's amazing
how many clocks are in the auctions old clocks grandfather clocks alarm clocks alarm clocks travel clocks
but every one that I go to has a whole section of just clocks now why is that well obviously
that people are moving out stuff
that their parents
or ground parents had and they're gone
now.
But it's also that people aren't
using them anymore.
Watches, that's different.
Watches still command, especially good ones.
And good old ones
command a lot of money.
But travel clocks,
alarm clocks,
radio clocks,
they're going for next to know.
Nothing, or at least many of them are.
The grandfather clocks, that's a little different because it's quite the piece of furniture.
But, you know, when I see that, I go, well, you know, maybe people just aren't using clocks.
They're so used to looking at their phone and the digital readout on the phone.
Okay, moving on.
well one more before we take our break and it's it's got to do with um it's kind of linked to the
the first one it's a it's a travel story and the headline it was on the cnn travel website
how traveling by plane will change in 2026 actually i was hoping for this was going to be exciting
it wasn't that exciting what was interesting what was interesting
about it is the major change
and the changes of the article highlights
are not on board
the aircraft.
They're not in the sky.
They're on the ground in the terminal buildings.
That airlines have decided
that people, because they're having
to spend longer time
in air terminals, because
of the rules, you know,
you've got to be there an hour and a half,
two hours, sometimes three hours before
flight time.
they want that experience to be better.
Travelers do, and so the airlines are responding.
They're building better lounges for those who can go to a lounge.
But they're building lounges in the terminal in the public space areas.
So technically they're not the kind of lounges that, you know, loyalty card owners get to go to.
There are lounges that anybody can go to.
instead of seeing long strips of
airport kind of corridors
where everything looks the same,
all the seating's the same,
all the same kind of fast food places
all along the row,
they're making it more interesting.
Different seating, different designs of seating,
different colors,
a better kind of,
dare I say,
fast food place.
That's the major thing that's happening.
The other thing that's happening
is the more and more airlines
are forming partnerships with other airlines
to try and make access
to different parts of the world better,
to make service better,
and I guess the exchange of loyalty card
memberships better.
So I went through this and the, you know, there are a lot of different airlines mentioned.
And I found, I kept looking for, you know, here Canada.
You know where I found it?
The very last line in a six-page article.
The very last line.
And I'll read the final paragraph.
It's only three lines long.
and the very last reference is to our Canada.
Elsewhere, European carrier Aegean Airlines will stretch its legs with new non-stops from Athens to New Delhi and Mumbai on an Airbus A321 XLR.
Iberia will stretch its XLR legs with new non-stops to Brazil, Canada, and the United States, from Madrid.
and then, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding,
Air Canada will for the first time ever
connect Toronto's downtown Billy Bishop Airport
with New York's LaGuardia.
That's Air Canada's reference in this six-page article.
I think it also mentioned some work that it's doing
with Lufthansa as well, but that's the main reference.
And you know why I like that?
Because it refers to the Toronto Island Airport in the proper fashion
by calling it the Billy Bishop Airport.
Billy Bishop, as I'm sure you all know,
was a World War I decorated hero for Canada.
It was in the Air Force.
He won the Victoria Cross.
he shot down more German aircraft than anyone else,
including, I think, five in one day.
Now, the controversy always around Billy Bishop,
like it was around a number of other pilots,
as there was no verification.
There was his word about what had happened.
Now, you can cross-check these things by the kind of casualties
that the other side was mentioning.
Anyway, it was deeply investigated, and Billy Bishop was proven to have been telling the truth.
That was the conclusion of the investigation.
And so he was awarded all the appropriate medals, including the Victoria Cross.
You can't get bigger than that.
And the reason I like this is at one of those auctions I was talking about in the UK the other day.
I successfully got a Billy Bishop letter attached to a book on his First World War exploits.
So I wanted that as part of my collection of memorabilia.
All right.
There we go. Let's take a break. I got some good stuff coming up.
You think Donald Trump makes stuff up out of thin air?
We'll hear this one. That's one story. We've got an AI story.
And somewhere else, I've got a story about passports.
We'll get to that right after this.
All right.
Enough with the music.
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And there are lots of good little stories.
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um okay
I don't know where
I have this great
story on passports. I don't know where I put it.
Just checking my pile here.
I'm not sure. Oh, there it is.
Found it. I know you want to hear the Donald Trump story. I'll get to that right after
this. This is a quick one.
You got a passport? Well, of course, you
do if you travel at all you've got a passport and remember for those of us kind of like my age
and even those younger a big deal about my passport was being able to you know they
only lost they used to last five years now they last 10 I think um is you can always
flip through them and see the countries you've been to because they stamp them when you go
through customs or at least they used to right
Right? But they don't do that anymore in many countries.
And so the BBC had a little piece the other day about why passport stamps may be a thing of the past.
In October of 2025, just a couple of months ago, the European Union began rolling out its entry-exit system, a new digital border management tool.
It's kind of similar to what we've got here in Canada.
same in Japan, same in Australia.
The Americans, I think, are going to start doing the same thing.
But if you come into Canada recently from some foreign travel you've been on,
you insert your passport into a machine, it reads it, doesn't stamp it, reads it.
that's all that happens so all those pages are just pages now you can go to some countries
and obviously where they're not using this system you can still get it stamped but they are
fewer and far between these days I travel a lot and this God I flipped through one
you know I've got a couple of passports because I was born in Britain so I still have a British
passport as well as a Canadian one and it's good as a journalist to have a couple and I've
explained that before but I flipped through both of them and the last one that I can find the last
stamp I can find it was like 2017 and it was like Barbados or somewhere but the main countries that
I go to a lot I don't do this anymore and I you know that's I've got as I'm sure
some of you have every passport I've ever owned.
And I get a kick out of going through them.
Every once in a while,
unremembering certain trips.
To Afghanistan or Iraq.
To the Soviet Union.
You know, to West Germany.
Before the wall came down.
In fact, the weekend the wall came down.
All right, moving on.
I'm, I'm, got to keep moving here.
I won't get all these stories in.
I love this headline.
And it's on MSN.com.
The headline is there's a 92% chance Trump is making it up.
Okay, listen to this. Let me read this.
President Donald Trump likes to use a big number to anchor his point,
especially when he wanders off on a tangent.
Often it seems that a specific figure is on the tip of his tongue.
At this year's ceremonial turkey pardon,
Trump praised a farmer from Wayne County, North Carolina,
for raising two record-setting birds,
but then pivoted to his own electoral margin of victory.
victory. I won that county by 92%. In fact, he won it by 16 percentage points.
At a McDonald's corporate event last month, Trump claimed that the United States controls 92% of the
shoreline of the Gulf of Mexico. The Gulf of America, as he calls it. It's really about
46%. Trump won the veterans vote.
excuse me
he said
on Veterans Day
with about
if you heard this number before
92% of something
and in July he said
he won farmers well
by 92%
more accurate estimates of the portion
of the electorate he won would be
65% of veterans
and 78% of voters
in farming counties
according to exit polls
and election data.
His fixation on the number between 91 and 93 has been a feature for a while.
In April, Trump claimed that egg prices had fallen by 92%.
The Bureau of Labor Stats said 12.7%.
At a rally shortly before last November's election,
while railing against journalists in the media,
he allowed that not all of them are sick people,
just about 92%.
That one admittedly is difficult to fact check.
I came upon this curious pattern,
this is by the writer,
Amory Rose Shinerman,
in the Atlantic.
as she came upon this as part of where are we going
let me try this sentence again
I came upon this curious pattern
in the course of tracking down the basis
for a far more serious claim the president
has made repeatedly as part of his
justifications for the U.S. military buildup
around Venezuela
more than two dozen strikes on
small boats allegedly carrying drugs in the Caribbean and Eastern Pacific have killed more
than 100 people since September. The strikes have formed the core of the administration's campaign
to oust Nicholas Maduro, which they did just a couple of days ago, which many of you
as a veneer for wanting to see the Venezuelan strongman ousted from power and work
with a new government to secure the country's oil and rare earth minerals.
Well, they don't have a new government.
They got the same one they had before, just a different guy on top, in this case a woman.
Anyway, here's the applicable quote.
The drugs coming in through the sea are down to, they're down to 92% Trump told Politico on December 8th at a round table later the same day.
He went with 92 or 94%.
Three days later, drug traffic by sea is down 92%.
Trump said in the Oval Office, a day after that brought a new estimate.
We knocked out 96% of the drugs coming in by water, he told reporters.
Oh, God, this guy.
92%.
So be ready for that the next time you hear it.
92%.
Of course it's 92%.
What else could it be?
It's 92%.
Moving on.
The Wall Street Journal.
This is short.
At least I'm going to make it short.
Somehow.
The headline is we let artificial intelligence run our office vending machine.
It lost hundreds of dollars.
All Street Journal's story by Joanna Stern.
So here's what the office showed.
With a vending.
machine operator by the name of Claudius
Senate
whose experience was three
weeks as a Wall Street Journal
operator, business now
bankrupt. Skills,
generosity, persistence, total disregard
for profit margins.
You'd toss
Claudia
Claudius's
resume in the trash immediately.
Would you be more
forgiving if you learned Claudius wasn't a
human but an AI
agent?
We let AI run our vending machine in the office.
Anthropic had tested a vending machine powered by its Clode AI model
in its own offices and asked whether we'd like to be the first outsiders
to try a newer, supposedly smarter version.
Claudius, the customized version of the model,
would run the machine, ordering inventory, setting prices,
and responding to customers.
In other words, the writer's fellow newsroom journalists,
via workplace chat app Slack.
Sure, I said, it sounded fun.
If nothing else, snacks.
Then came to chaos.
Within days, Claudius had given away nearly all its inventory for free,
including a PlayStation 5 it had been talked into buying for marketing purposes.
It ordered a live fish.
It offered to buy stun guns, pepper spray, cigarettes, and underwear.
Profits collapsed, newsroom morale soared.
This was supposed to be the year of the AI agent
when autonomous software would go out into the world and do things for us.
But two agents, Claudius and its overseeing CEO bought Seymour Cash,
became a case study in how inadequate and easily distracted this software can be.
Leave it to business journalists to successfully stage a boardroom coup
against an AI chief executive.
That was the point.
The project Vand Experiment was designed by the company's stress testers
to see what happens when an AI agent is given autonomy, money, and human colleagues.
Three weeks with Claudia showed us today's AI promises and failings
and how hilarious the gap between can be.
The article goes on at length.
and so you can find it at the Wall Street Journal
if you're looking for it.
But it is kind of funny.
All right, last one.
I go back to the paper that started things off for us today,
the New York Times.
And the headline is
A $600 suckling pig.
Wag you for all.
On menus, it's a new gilded age.
Julian Moskin writes this
It's a long article
And I'm just going to take a peek at it
If for no other reason that I get awfully hungry
Just reading it
Even though I could never afford any of this stuff
But it does sound good
The sub headline is in Manhattan and across the country
Restaurants are trotting out
Ever-pricier dishes
And luxury upgrades to meet the
the man from affluent diners.
I thought there was an affordability crisis out there.
The rich get richer.
The poor get poorer.
Anyway, Julia writes this.
She wrote this the week before Christmas.
When the term conspicuous consumption joined the language during the gilded age,
it didn't specifically apply to food.
But it certainly does that many of the new restaurants opening in Manhattan's
current gold rush.
At Le Chien, a cozy new bistro in the West Village, where you might expect to find
beef bourignon, bourguineau, and boulebees.
Those spots are occupied by a $435 tomahawk steak and a $260 turbid fillet.
A lobster roll at Lex Yard, the gleaning new restaurant in the refurbished Waldorf Astoria
Hotel is topped with caviar and truffles and costs a mere $68.
At La Grande Boucherie, nearby, four-sided diners, can advance order a whole roast
suckling pig for the table for $600.
Around the city, would-be morgans and melons are indulging as never before in old-school
luxuries like foie gras
Dover Sole
I love Doversoil
I ever had
Was in
A cross from Dover
On the French side
I can't remember
The name of the
Little town
The village on the French side
But anyway I had Doversold there one night
It was fantastic
It was also like
not very expensive
not expensive at all
in fact
that included
you know
a couple of glasses
of wonderful white wine
um
anyway
see what I mean
by getting hungry reading this thing
customers
message us
asking what we have that night
that's extraordinary and never asked the price, said Alexia Duchenne, the chef at Lecien,
who pays about $1,000 for each turbot she imports from France.
Ms. Douchain said she moved to the United States,
partly because of the challenges of turning a profit in Europe,
where high-quality ingredients are expensive, but diners are frugal.
Here, the more expensive it is, the faster it sells.
The rich have always spent freely on food,
but today's menu prices are reaching dizzying heights,
and they're no longer confined in New York City.
In Dallas, in Las Vegas, Miami, and Aspen, Colorado,
restaurants designed for the 1%
and the influencers who want to emulate them
now routinely offer shavings of truffles or flights of wagyu.
Across the country, even restaurants with more modest ambitions and prices
offer upgrades like bumps of caviar with martini,
potato chips or chicken nuggets.
That last pairing was pioneered by Cocoaq,
a Korean fried chicken restaurant in the Flatiron District,
which sold $100 boxes of six nuggets
with Petro Petroshen caviar
at the U.S. Open Tennis Tournament last summer.
okay enough already the pictures in this article are
are pretty good
I must say
yeah you get hungry just looking at it
anyway it just
all it does to me is underline
this is crazy you know
we talk about the affordability crisis we talk
about families starving, you know, living at food banks.
And yet at the same time, there are places that satisfy the desires of the ultra-rich
of the food looked at.
Okay.
You know, I wrote about lobster, I guess, I'm a huge lobster person.
ever since I was a kid
on our first holidays
along the
east coast of Maine
I guess there's no west coast of Maine
East Coast of Maine, East Coast of Maine
Kenny Bunkport
Old Orchard in that whole area
a gunkwood
and the lobster that
that I eat
it was a much different time for lobster prices
you know, they were very reasonable
along the American coast
and up P.E.I. Newfoundland,
Nova Scotia, New Brunswick
get lobster at any of those places.
Today, lobster prices are
considerably higher.
So anytime I see
kind of prices.
It scares me.
Okay, I'm going to wrap it up for today.
Your turn's coming up tomorrow with your answers to the question.
What's your prediction, your main prediction for 2026?
Give it to us and it just may make the program tomorrow.
The random ranter will be by as well, as he always is on Thursdays.
Looking forward to seeing what he has to say.
kicking off a new year.
Friday, we'll be here with
Good Talk, with
Chantelli Bear, and
Bruce Anderson. That's Friday's
program. I'll
actually be in Ottawa
for that.
And look forward
to it going up to
to help Bruce out on his
real politics
venture,
real as in RWL,
It's political films, some of the best political films of the last 75 years in this case.
And it's all in effort to support the Jamie Anderson Parliamentary Intern Program.
And I'm glad we're doing that as well.
So that's going to wrap it up for this day.
I'm Peter Mansper. Thanks so much for listening.
And we'll see again in less than 24 hours.
Thank you.
