The Bridge with Peter Mansbridge - Your Turn - Would You Buy A Home Based Robot Helper?

Episode Date: November 20, 2025

The price is high, very high, like at least twenty thousand dollars. But would you buy a robot designed to help you do housework around the home? It's not only coming but it's kind of there already. That's our AI based question of the week and as you always do, you had thoughts on this. And the Random Ranter is here this week as well and you won't want to miss him either. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

And hello there, Peter Mansbridge here. You're just moments away from the latest episode of The Bridge. It's Thursday. That means your turn. And the question this week is all about human robots. You got it. That's coming right up. And hello there.

Welcome to Thursday. Welcome to your turn for this week. The question was all about, well, it's about human robots. What do you think of that whole idea, like having a robot in your home, doing your housework? Now, why does this come to the fore? We've had robots for decades, right, in some different forms. But this idea kind of takes it to a new level, and it adds AI and everything else. It's still in its development stages, but I,

gave you an idea to look at. There was one in particular called the Neo-Home robot. And clearly many of you have thought about it this week. And you see the upside and the downside. And so we're going to get to your letters. This was a way, a different way I'll give you than the kind of questions we've framed in the past. But we wanted to try something a little different and something. that related in some fashion to AI.

Before I get started, listen to this. I found this fascinating. AI artificial intelligence really is everywhere, even in the podcast world. There was a report in The Wrap this week that says, there are already at least a hundred and seventy-five thousand. You heard that right.

175,000 AI-generated podcast episodes on platforms like Spotify and Apple. Inception Point AI, a startup with just eight employees, cranks out 3,000 episodes a week. 3000. We do five, right? And we're pretty happy with five and the response we get. As for Inception Point AI, with each episode costing about a dollar to produce and needing only 20 listeners apparently to turn a profit. I don't know how they do that, but nevertheless, it's a quantity over quality. approach that may grow. So keep that in mind.

It's a crowded space out there, the podcast platform. All right, let me get some of your letters. Starting with Scott Jansen in New Westminster, British Columbia. We've already worked alongside robots for decades, starting with Unimate in the 60s. And if you want to be reminded of that, Unimate was the first industrial robot ever built. It was a hydraulic manipulator arm that could perform repetitive tasks. It was used by carmakers to automate metalworking and welding processes. Anyway, back to Scott's letter.

Today we have delivery robots, warehouse bots, and soon robo-taxies everywhere. Most robots won't be humanoid because form follows function. Instead of worrying about what we lose, think about what we gain. Electrification and automation will eliminate most of the 80 to 90% energy wasted today. By 2050, we'll have cleaner cities, cheaper living, and stop wasting so much energy. energy and people's time. Peter Arito in Toronto.

Neo is not a watershed moment. Bell Labs introduced voice recognition in the 1950s. Now, 70 years later, Siri is 78 to 85% accurate. Rumba robot vacuums were introduced 23 years ago. Even after two decades of improvement, they have limited practicality. Robots will be expensive toys evolving for decades to come

in the complex, uncontrolled, home environment. Kyle 80 in Peterborough, Ontario. It's interesting that in this period of post-truth, climate change, high unemployment, poverty, and an obscene wealth gap that when a tech CEO announces that their $20,000 AI robot will be commonplace in 10 years, people clap, smiling. Do we have a democracy or a venture capital oligopoly?

The $20,000 U.S. figure is what's in the ad for Neal. and remember, I suggested you look at the Neo video, you can find it on Google, just Neo Home Robot is all you've got to put in, you'll find it there eventually. I suggest you'd look at that just simply because it's a slick video. And it gives a sense of what could be. It's pretty clear that there's still in development, and part of development is trying to raise capital.

And part of trying to raise capital is selling the product. And so that's what they're trying to do. I think it's $20,000 to buy one, about $500 a month to rent one. I don't know how they're doing on that front. But that wasn't the point. The point was just to look at this. This is what they claim the future is. David Buckin in Vancouver.

Los Angeles is already full of R2. D2-style robots delivering food. Today, my car drove itself 20 minutes in downtown Vancouver with almost zero input. Humanoids are next, years, not decades away. Aging populations make adoption inevitable. Massive gains in care, health, logistics, but also massive job displacement, fast. The future isn't coming. For many uses, it's already here and scaling.

You know, I know there are cars out there that are being self-driven. I get it. Even the car I have has a kind of self-driving function in it, which I've never touched, used, or even aware enough to know exactly how it could be used. But, you know, maybe it's my age showing. But I can't imagine doing that. Like, I just can't imagine it. I would go crazy just sitting in the car,

letting some computer do all the decision-making. It doesn't mean I'd be better at it, or that I am better at it. But I'm pretty proud of my driving record after... you know, more than 50 years driving. Lawrence Rainey in Musco, Ontario. No, I find all this stuff incredibly creepy and off-putting. Even the self-driving taxis in certain U.S. cities totally creep me out.

Now they're building autonomous armed AI drones, too. Straight out of Terminator and 2000. A Space Odyssey. No, thank you. Michael Ardendale in Sudbury, Ontario. When it comes to tech and where we'll be in ten years, I think about all the math teachers

telling me I need to learn math because you won't have a calculator with you always. I'm not an early adopter of new tech, but I have no doubt that eventually I will have a home robot to do the chores I hate doing. Finally, a good tech from the Jetsons.

Now, where am I flying cars? Remember the Jetsons? Just in case you need a reminder, the Jetsons was an American animated sitcom that ran its first episodes in 1962 and was set 100 years later in 2062. imagining a high-tech space-age future. It was a counterpart to the Flintstones, set in prehistoric times. Now, I'm of the age that I remember these things,

but I can also remember that the Flintstones I watched, the Jetsons, not so much. I was a Flintstones guy. But speaking, there's a little detour here, Speaking of animated features, there's a new one coming out next week. It's actually a sequel. It's called Zootopia 2. Now, Zootopia 1, which was almost, you know, it's almost a decade ago.

So Walt Disney animated feature. And it was extremely popular because it's not just an animated kids feature. It's a story about life and community and society. It's directed at a younger audience, but people of all ages enjoyed it. Why am I saying good things about it? I was in it. My voice was in it. only for a few seconds, but it was there.

I had my own character. Peter Moosebridge was the television news anchor in the world of Zootopia. Well, Zootopia, too, came along, and guess what? Disney called me back. Said, we want to reprise your role. So when it opens next week, Zootopia 2 Peter

Moosebridge will make an appearance one more time All right little self-promotion there Disney did not pay for that moment Jonathan Young in Brussels Belgium Jonathan's

formerly from Nova Scotia Jonathan writes, have we not learned anything in the last 20 years with a loneliness crisis, AI psychosis, and teenagers being convinced to take their own lives by chatbots, we want to go a step further and get a machine to live with us and do our chores? What we desperately need right now is less connection to technology and more connection to each other. Just because we can Doesn't mean we should. Tim Braun and Saskatoon

Tim told us he's retired now but has a degree in electrical engineering concentrating on electronics. Tim writes, I think something like these robots is going to happen but the timing is unclear. Initially, I thought, wow, this is cool. From a related video, I realized that these tasks are indicative of what it might do eventually,

after a significant effort by the owner and the company to train the robot, potentially taking years and giving up privacy in your home. This will not change my life. I think there are better uses of AI technology. Stephanie Kinsman in Victoria $20,000 or $499 a month is ludicrous, especially considering that it's not fully autonomous. It's an avatar of sorts.

I encourage all of those that can afford one and need help around the house to pay a housekeeper. There are humans that need the work. Can Peleshaw? in Newstad, Ontario. I'm a programmer by day and AI is both a monumental achievement and an overhyped party trick. Like the cell phone to smartphone, now we're in the diminishing returns phase. A robot like NEO needs to crunch more external data than a self-driving car. And look how that progress has stalled. We'll get Rosie Robot someday.

Rosie, by the way, was the Jutson's robot made. We'll get Rosie Robot someday, but I suspect it's further out the Neo. Don Whitmore in Colonna, BC. That 10-minute video did nothing to convince me to spend $20,000 to be part of their beta testing. First of all, I don't trust Big Data. I disconnected all my Alexa and Google listening stations, years ago. Yes, I heard your podcast about them, not really eavesdropping, but personal experience tells me otherwise. So many questions. Can it fold a fitted sheet? Call me in 10 years when

you've worked out that bug. Josh Como in Montreal The thing about that Neo promo video is that it's not actually real. The video implies that Neo is fully autonomous using AI, but really it's being piloted by a human who's using a VR headset. That's correct. That's what it is at this stage. Tech companies love to overpromise in order to secure more funding, but really, I don't think Jetson-style robot maids are coming anytime soon. Tim Stott in Minnesota, Manitoba.

I'll be honest, I don't know a lot about AI. However, with the advancements in technologies like robotic milking parlors, you know about those, right? That's amazing what farmers who are into tech and can afford it have available to them now. Robotic milking parlors. the cows go into the barn and these robotic milking stations milk the cows. There's no human in there.

It can happen in the middle of the night. If you read the book that Mark Bulgutche and I wrote How Canada Works, it was a couple years old now, it was still a great book. We have a chapter featuring a farmer in southern Manitoba. who has one of those robotic milking parlors. Anyway, back to Tim's letter. However, with the advancements in technologies

like robotic milking parlors and other agricultural advances, John Deere has some interesting videos on their future of farming technologies. I can see robot interaction within 10 years being the new normal. good or bad, I guess, we will have to wait and see. Drew Scott, and, by the way, Mark and I have a new book coming out.

Probably be out, it will definitely be out this time next year. I haven't told you what it's about yet, but I know that many of you are going to want to get it. But it's along the same kind of idea as Mark and I have written before in our books, Extraordinary Canadians, and how Canada works. We feature individuals, Canadian individuals, from coast to coast to coast, on this theme.

And I think you'll find it interesting. That's next year, and obviously we'll talk about it when we get closer to the release date. Drew Scott in Huntsville, Ontario. The Neo-Robot it seems like a strange mix of comfort and unease. It glides through the house like a quiet watcher,

offering quick assistance while reminding you it never really looks away. Its usefulness is undeniable, managing tasks, remembering routines, smoothing out the small frictions of daily life, yet it feels like technology tightening its grip, a tool so effective and integrated that avoiding it will eventually be impossible Lois Nisbid Wall

in Wymark, Saskatchewan Where's Yomark, you ask? Well, it's just south of swift current. Lois writes, I find a human-form robot in my home very creepy and troubling.

I'm a housewife. I'll have a $20,000 value to the world. Society is increasingly devaluing people who do necessary but menial tasks. AI will just encourage people not to be helpful or polite, and we will become inept at taking care of ourselves. People are having trouble with relationships now.

What will it be like if we're living with machines? Julie Smith-Allen in Lethbridge, Alberta. What strikes me as our society's outrageous priorities, where huge money is thrown at creating ways for rich people to avoid cleaning their toilets, while the number of homeless, hungry, and war-torn increase, and the planet implodes. Perry Turner in Burlington, Ontario. Electric scooters for children, electric bicycles, and now robots to clean our homes. All these gadgets to spend our money on because we are, what, too busy?

Too lazy? It keeps us in debt for something. We could all do ourselves, but we want the extra time to spend not with family, but on social media, doom-scrolling, in our own echo chamber and away from reality. Does nobody watch sci-fi and see the problem? Pat Provo in San Basil de Grande, Quebec.

As a physically disabled 70-year-old, I worry about future care costs. The Neo-Home robot video was intriguing but also unsettling. I'd need strong assurances that hackers couldn't access my home data. Since the robots aren't waterproof, tasks involving water or floor washing would still require help. I doubt they'll ever drive vehicles. Robots may offer, well, I don't know about that. Robots may offer some home services like Alexa does now, but

But my needs would require careful analysis before investing heavily. Still, anything's possible. Frank Wang in Surrey, BC. Human movements are very difficult for machines to emulate at this time. While we will likely see humanoid robots in the future, it will be many decades down the line. In a world of rapidly declining birth rates, hopefully we'll see them used in elder care by the time I get old.

A couple more before we take our break. Leo Bourdain in Ottawa. Like many promotional videos, the Neo promotion looked fine and dandy until you see the price tag, $20,000. At that price, I will empty my own dishwasher, thank you very much. Or, here's a novel idea, if you have that kind of money laying around, hire a human being. They can do all the chores a Neo-Robot would do, and more, at a fraction of the price. Rob Biarnison in Carbury, Manitoba.

The move to autonomous life forms will unfortunately move the world even further away from the natural world and necessary social connection. The idea of interacting and relying on technology bothers me immensely, dating back to the rollout of Siri. Where there's joy, creativity

and challenge, excuse me, where is the joy, creativity, and challenge in that? Simply a one-way trip to laziness, not to mention idle stupidity. Algorithms, neos, and bots will continue to gnaw away at what makes us

human and purposeful. Okay, it's break time, and you know what break time means on Thursdays? Break time means there were just a moment away from the random ranter. You'll be coming up right after this. Welcome back. You're listening to The Bridge for this Thursday. Thursdays means your turn. It also means the random ranter who will be by in a second. You're listening on Sirius XM, Channel 167, Canada Talks. We're on your favorite podcast platform. We're glad to have you with us, no matter where you are. Dialing us in from. Dialing. Boy, is there that a term of the future.

Remember dials? You actually used a dial. things. It's like when I talk about switching channels on television, my hand automatically goes to how you used to switch the channel. You used to have to go up to the television set and put your hand around the little knob that switch channels. You know, some things you never lose, right? even though young people look at me and go,

what is he doing? Hey, what is he doing? Okay. Random ranter time. He's got a good one this week. This one will make you think. Here we go. The Random Ranter for this Thursday.

Has anyone else noticed that no one seems willing. to develop anything major in this country without some serious government freebies. When was the last time there was an arena project or a factory, a new technology, or for that matter, a movie made without some form of corporate tax breaks, grants, incentives, or other sweetheart deals? Don't get me wrong, I understand the reasoning. All those things grease the wheels of commerce. They create jobs.

they foster industries, they spur investment, and as the theory goes, over the long term, all those dollars come back through growth and taxes. It makes sense to me, or rather it made sense to me, because these days the level of corporate welfare, I think it's out of hand, to the point where the math is broken. We're giving the subsidies, but getting the returns, I'm not so sure. look ask any pro-business conservative what they hate about welfare and they'll list off a myriad of things from it fostering dependency and being a disincentive to work to the cost of it to the fairness of the whole thing and of course always the abuse of the system by disingenuous actors well how is corporate welfare any

different i mean when you have all those taxpayer dollars at your disposal where's the risk Where's the incentive? But look, I don't even think those are the right questions to ask. Because to me, the smell test should always be, where are the jobs? And where is the return? Ultimately, that's where I think the math of the whole thing breaks. Look, life is really expensive right now. How much more can we be expected to buy?

Every time you turn around, there's a fresh hand in your pocket looking to part you from your money. It's like we're being constantly milked. I mean, nothing's ever been free. But now to add insult to injury, the service sucks too. I got to think we're living in a time where we're at or near peak consumerism. And if businesses can't rely on us to buy more, then in the name of efficiency and with the goal of profit, they'll need to concentrate on controlling their costs. And in a world of AI, and yes, robots, the easiest cost to cut is payroll, a.k.a. human taxpayers.

But without those, the whole system breaks down. Look, don't get me wrong. I believe in government incentives for businesses. But taxpayers need some kind of return for it, or else it just becomes yet another wealth siphon for the rich to get richer at the expense of everyone else. And everyone else, that's what the government's prime directive is, as far as I'm concerned. They need to ensure that every dollar that goes to business has at least some hope of return. I don't think it's asking too much. And if we can't rely on that return being jobs, then we're going to need to look at it another way. I think that way should be by calling subsidies, tax breaks, and grants what they really are.

investments. And in exchange for those investments, taxpayers should be getting a piece of the actual pie. Look, it just makes sense. Businesses don't like paying taxes, and they don't like having big payrolls. But they do love generating profits. We need to figure out a way to get on that side of their ledger. It would make the whole system more efficient. I mean, if you're going to have to give up even a tiny percentage of your business to access taxpayer subsidies, then I have no doubt that you will treat taxpayer money with a lot more respect. At the end of the day, maybe that's something we need to all start doing. Aha, the random rancher.

So does that make you think? Now, don't get me wrong. I love it when the ranter throws in a Now don't get me wrong He doesn't throw in a don't get me wrong Every week But there's a lot of weeks he does And when he does

That's fine I don't have a problem with that He's just clarifying, right? But you know, as we just heard in that one If he says Now don't get me wrong twice in the space of one rant, he's really worried that we're going to get them wrong.

I love the ranter. The ranter has made Thursdays fascinating. It's already pretty good because of your comments, and the ranter comes in with his, which makes us think. Either agree with them or don't agree with them or just pass them off saying, I don't know, I think I got him wrong. Anyway, moving on.

Let's move on to your letters. Because we still have some left. Starting with Janet Di Giacomo, Janet Di Giacomo in Ottawa. The 12-year-old sci-fi fan I used to be is thrilled. Asimov, Caves of Steel, Cool Engineering. The disillusioned idealist I am now has deep concerns. Privacy violations, AI hallucinations, hackers, stealing financial information,

spying, extorting, or just committing old-fashioned theft. Future updates doing things I don't want. Future corporate owners with ulterior motives. Government mandated surveillance ops. Tech companies have already taught us they can't be trusted. The hallucinations Janet mentions is the word now used for information that AI confidently puts out but is complete fiction. David Dunham in Fort St. John, BC. The CEO of one Chinese company predicts their chat GBT moment will come in three years.

The makers of Neo say their robot will gather data to help train the next generations of humanoid robots. Leveraging advances in machine learning, robotics companies are rapidly developing robots which are able to navigate our complex world. Our brave new world seems to be unfolding whether or not we are ready. Marilyn Wallace, Fannie Baby C. The advent of cell phones, EV batteries, and AI brought a global thirst for rare earth minerals and raging demands for electricity and water. What will happen when most families want their own robots? The extent of the environmental damage will be literally earth-shattering.

I'm not afraid of the robot age that is fast approaching, but rather the price that will be paid by generations to follow. Is it worth it? John Minchell in Comox Valley, BC. Do I think the robot person is going to happen in the near future? No, even 10 years may be optimistic. Will it happen eventually? Probably.

The key is how many people will be willing to give up part of their privacy to give such robots the learning they need. Allison Ralph in Burlington, Ontario. I don't think we will see robots walking next to us in 10 years. Neo is currently remote-controlled and quite clunky. The tech sector has a long history of over-promising and under-delivering, with AI especially. All we have now is large language models that hallucinate and platforms that create fake videos. The way big tech is intertwined with the political chaos in the U.S. will also slow it down.

Don Dufour in Ottawa. I do believe these robots will become part of society in the coming years as part of the evolution of AI gadgetry. Progress for sure, but I don't want a stranger in my home. The only Neo I use is an app I had to quickly download on my phone to pay for parking at an Ottawa Senator's hockey game last season. When I learned all human parking attendants have disappeared, this is progress

Constance Menzies in narrow Manitoba Neo is not so new we've had computers for decades making things autonomous and easier for us airplanes cars iPhones drones various robots from R2D2 to

Rumbas people how far are we going to go to have computers do all things for us computers can go array and worse Think of the Terminator. We've got to stop being seduced by these electronic conveniences

for the health of humanity and the environment. In case you're the kind of person who doesn't go to movies with titles like The Terminator, it's about a cyborg assassin, Arnold Schwarzenegger, sent from 2009 to 1984 to kill a woman before she can give birth to her son who will later lead the human resistance against machines. Ken Malagos in Regina.

One thing that haunts me from the video, and that is, are we just creating electronic slaves? And if so, what does that do to our view of humanity? Julie Mulnard in Burlington, Ontario. I've been thinking about this deeply. It's obvious all the ways that this robot could help us humans, especially vulnerable populations with disabilities, provided that the cost comes way down.

But I just keep coming back to one thought. It's creepy. It's just creepy. This will only exacerbate the loneliness epidemic. We need each other more than we need machines. Derek Dillow in Ottawa. The astonishing changes in AI and robotics leaves me with a feeling of dread. However, it is apparent that the only way to understand and compete in these areas is to invest, study, and develop our own industries, or be left behind. How Western nations have let China become so far ahead in robotics, critical minerals, EV, and solar energy is a failure.

It is well past time for Canada and other Western nations to wake up. and spend on research and development and compete in all these areas. Christine Franson in Dundas, Ontario. My questions, what about privacy? Who's monitoring NEO? Can NEO get hacked? Can NEO go rogue? I wonder how NEO could be useful for a vulnerable person

or someone who has recently had surgery, help organize a busy family, protect oneself from scammers. Could Neo help my partner find the phone and car keys? What about domestic workers? I have no answers. It still seems weird to me. Lazzan Donnelly in Sutton, Quebec.

Would I pay thousands of dollars for an AI home robot? Sure. Maintaining physical and mental health are big considerations as I get older. My home robot could keep me active, safe, and independent when my hearing, eyes, knees, and hips start to fail. This robot could also interface with my health care providers to diagnose and manage ongoing care. Think of an Apple watch with much broader capability.

The idea of AI increasing our ability to age in place is appealing. But I'm not sure what it means to be human if propped up by technology when our hearts and brains are ready to quit. Will Scott in Luthbridge, Alberta. Neo helping with laundry and answering a visitor at the front door is depressing, to say the least. This low-gear ghost-like Neo mechanically picking up and dropping clothes like an automatic washing machine into an automatic washing machine would last about five minutes prior to my tossing him head first out the door.

ditch Neo and instead read Ishiguro's 2021 novel Clara and the son a thought-provoking tale of friendship and robots Kazuo Ishiguro was born in Japan

he's now living in England he won the Booker Prize in 1989 and the Nobel Prize in literature in 2017 Clara and the son was written in 2021 is set in the near future and centers on a droid

who serves as an artificial friend to a lonely child Luke Petrolicus in Toronto Neo is vaporware if you're wondering that's the word used to describe a hardware or software product

that has been announced but that the developer is unlikely to release lease anytime soon, if ever. Real people are operating these bots. Ultimately, the global poor will be exploited to create training data and provide cheap labor like Neo. Investor OpenAI did to people in Kenya.

An AI program could only pick up a mug a few years ago. Real life is another order of magnitude. Neo's sole mission have software that perform. profiles you by tagging every possession you have, all to sell you even more stuff. Brett Christensen in Gannon-Ackway, Ontario. I'm 60 next month. I can see where extra or stronger hands would be beneficial in future years. And where I, and were I to end up alone, the companionship might be welcome. I do worry about data privacy, hacking, and the potential of singularity.

I'll wait and see. Singularity describes a time when artificial intelligence systems acquire the capacity to override human control. We get near the end here. Patrick Chun in Toronto. We've seen all this technology from Hollywood movies, from Terminator to I-Robot. Isn't it odd that we're actually the cast of these movies? I hope it'll end well for us because the future doesn't look friendly when AI takes control of our lives. Michael Brissant in Kitchener, Ontario.

Buy a robot? Why not? I can just see it now. Roe R-O-W bot My personal bot Pauses mid-stroke, drops the oars And in his creepy howl voice Asked me

Have you gotten in touch With your feelings yet With all the extra time My labors have brought to your life Then he chuckles As I drop over the side Into the abyss And calmly rose away

Zindy Zindy Sampa in Erdhry, Alberta. Creepy. So many red flags, privacy and data security risks, ethical questions around surveillance, emotional and social skills, displacement, people turning to machines instead of each other, and a loss of human skills, creative problem-solving abilities and everyday social interaction, the convenience isn't worth what we might lose.

Kate Wilson in Toronto. Before retiring, I worked at a hospital that has a little robot to teach kids about their upcoming surgery, uses distraction techniques to decrease anxiety, and escorts them to the operating room. So home robots are coming, and if it helps seniors stay in their homes longer, with quality of life. Great. Gus Livingston. Gus is, you know, we hear from Gus. Gus every once in a while. He's in Dunville, Ontario. It's in an hour southwest of Niagara Falls.

Wow. I can't believe it. A being that can wash the dishes, clean the floors, scrub the walls, and clean the washroom, plus much, much more. And I can have a conversation with it. Last time I felt like this, I asked my wife if I could marry her. Gus, you're in trouble, buddy. Hmm Maybe not such a good idea about that Neo says Gus Yeah Don't turn around, guess She's looking at you, buddy

All right Guess this letter is the last one Perhaps that's a good thing But let me say this If you want to acknowledge that people say it's tough to get their thoughts in 75 words or fewer. You know, that's our, that's the big condition on the letters, right? 75 words or fewer.

A couple of you try to sneak past with 100. It ain't going to happen. They go right in the bin. 75 words or fewer. However, if you want to acknowledge the people say it's tough to get their thoughts in 75 words or fewer, before Thanksgiving, we asked, what are you grateful for? That was before the Canadian Thanksgiving, right? So with U.S. Thanksgiving coming up, the New York Times, they clearly listened to the bridge.

They're doing the same thing. They're asking the same question of their readers. And are they saying 75 words or fewer? No, of course not. They're not saying that. They've got, you know, thousands of people who can deal with incoming mail. We have two. However, surprise, surprise.

What's the New York Times limit for the United States? limit for the answers to their question of the week? Is it 75 words or fewer? No. They want the answers in, wait for it, six words. Okay? So you think I'm being unnecessarily difficult? At 75 words or fewer?

Apparently not. Imagine if I said six words or fewer, I can imagine what some of those words might be. All right, folks, that's going to do it for today. That's going to do it for your turn and the random ranter this week. Tomorrow. Good talk, Chantelli Bear, Bruce Anderson.

I'm sure we'll find something to talk about. We always do. do. Thanks for listening today. Look forward to talk to you in less than 24 hours. Bye for now.