The Brilliant Idiots - 85 Dixxx (Feat. 85 South)

Episode Date: October 24, 2019

This week Charlamange and Andrew discuss Tan;'s comments on Lip Servie, Cthagod talks baout his Gucci Mane interview that went viral, 85 South comes on and hilarity ensues, and much more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And listen, we got some church announcements. What did you mean by Gucci gang? We got some church announcements. Yes, we do. The announcements are a very important part of what we do in church. Sunday, October 27th. I will be in Milwaukee. I will be at the varsity theater.

I fuck a Milwaukee too. I love Milwaukee too. I know why you do because I think that was the first market to syndicate. It was the first market that syndicated at the Breakfast Club, but I just like Milwaukee. Yo, dude. I'm the type person that don't like Miami but like Milwaukee. It's a vibe, bro. I like Milwaukee, yo.

It's a vibe, dude. Yeah. And I had to stay in Milwaukee for a week when we shot catfish back in the day. Yeah. I'm like, I fuck with Milwaukee, even though the hotel was haunted. You know what I mean? It's cool. But that's why you like it.

You ghosts here and there. Who cares? What's a ghost? But I'll be there at Divority Theater 1 p.m. with Christchanda Lee Perez having a discussion about black emotional health and wellness and mental health. All right. Shonda Lee Perez. She got three different races in her one name.

Yes. So she looked to Krishanda. And then on October 28th, I'll be at Winterp University during an event called Tell Your Story. And it's a conversation on improving mental health awareness with Michelle Williams, Mary Ann Williamson and myself. It's free food, free conversation. It's free to everybody from 2 to 4 p.m. at Winterb University, me, Michelle Williams, and Marianne Williamson.

So pull up on us. Got them. Okay. Matador Tour, Palm Beach, this Saturday. First show sold out at the second show. Then next weekend we're going to be in a Chico, California. A few tickets left for that. Sacramento sold out.

Then we're coming back. Connecticut, Norwalk, the Wall Street Theater. then we got Boston on the 16th, Wilbur Theater. First show sold out, second show, tickets left, and then New York, November 22nd, Town Hall, first show sold out. Few tickets left for the second, but get those because they're going quick.

Now let's start the show, my man. Let's start the show. Where do we start? Why don't we start with this? Two dicks? Okay. Dick, Tom. Right out the gate?

Yeah, let's do it. Listen, man, I saw a tank. Can you break it down for me? Because I don't even understand what it is. Play the clip, Taylor. All right, so basically. Tanks. Tink sticks or tank sticks?

Listen, all I know is he was on lip service. I don't know how the conversation started. But he basically said that if you have sucked two dicks, that don't make you gay. You got it? Okay. Okay. But are you like playing it? So don't do any lazy editing.

Are you playing it right now? I know you could. Look at Taylor Producing. Not really. You know we wanted to talk about dicks, but you know this show. You've been working with us long enough to know we love to talk about dicks.

This clip should have been ready. Let's go. Let's dig into it, right? Okay. He sucked the d'i once, right? And then he's like, I'm not sure if I liked it or not. Let me try it again.

Let me try it again. And then he says, you know what? It's not for me. Don't like the taste. You see what I'm saying? You see what I'm not. We're not talking about chicken. We're talking about chicken.

What? You know what? He's a d-de-a-d-d-john in his jaw. How you made a bar out of chicken and chicken. That she's an artist. It's natural. But it doesn't mean he's gay. It means he sucks twice.

Okay. So just for the sake of your argument, that's okay. I know exactly what that is. Gay! All right? I don't get on to the fuck they ain't talking about. Like, he needs to knock it off, bro. If I kill two people,

I'm a murderer. Murder. If I rob two banks, I am a bank robber. If I suck two dicks, I'm gay. At the least, even if you don't want to go all the way gay, at the least, bisexual. You definitely buy. At the least. Yeah, you're by.

Now, here's the thing. If you sucked one dick, curious. There's a curiosity. Still gay, but curious. Gay-a-jase. Gay-ish. Gay-ish. A new show, brought to you by Shonda Rocks.

Like, you couldn't. By the way. By the way, it depends on what kind of circle you got, right? Because it's probably some guys that are progressive and they can sit around. I thought you meant circle like the size of your butthole. No. There's guys that they can sit around and they could talk about, you know, they was curious and, you know, they have that conversation. Cool.

And you might come to your other homeboys and be like, yeah, man, you know, I suck dick once. I don't mean I'm gay. Like, you know, what? So this is the shitty thing about the conversation, right? People are assuming that there's something wrong with being gay. Who's that dad? No, there isn't. They're just things that are straight and they're things that are gay.

A man sucking another guy's dick is a gay thing. It's a gay act. If a gay dude was fucking pussy, we'd be like, I think you might like pussy. You draw some straight shit, bro. That's some straight shit, bro. What's up to do you in your straight shit? Yo, you're straight now?

Yo, pussy talk. Straight. I don't, I don't get the argument. The second dick confirms it, dog. Bro. The first one is like, you should know, like, I don't need to try pistachial ice cream to know I don't like it twice. You can have that whole conversation with one dick. When you talk about two dicks, bro, you can't wake up with the taste for dick twice.

I, you know what I mean? Like, eh. It's so evident. Two dits, you got a taste for dick. Also, like, when you try something new and you go, let me try again just to make sure. No, let me try again just to make sure it's because you liked it. Like, you take a bite of your girl's food. You're like, I don't know if I like it.

Let me get another bite. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's because you liked it, not because you didn't. Yeah, but it's a difference between getting two bites and going back for another whole dick. Also, a dick suck takes a while. Yeah, it's a lot that go with dick sucking, bro. And it's your first and second dick suck, so you're not even going to be that good it. So you need to jaw that thing down.

Yeah, man. No, dude, you enjoy dicks. I was thinking about this because, you know, we love, we get head, right? Yeah. So we love it. But it was weird how that was phrased. No, I'm just saying. No, we love giving each other head on this show.

I mean, but okay, well, we got tail and Sam in the room. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want to assume, but I'm just assuming at some point in your life, y'all have. Given fallacious, you've philated. So y'all know how y'all do it. So as a guy, it's a lot that goes into it. You're jiggling niggling niggas balls,

you're making them cum. Like, that ain't, it ain't normal. I'm serious. It ain't normal shit. You're doing your head. And when you do like this, bro, you're a man, you do you do like this? And he's like, yo, it is what it is.

Like, you know, I'm just saying it is what it is. Like, you can't just act like, you know, you wasn't gay. He was gay. Bro. He was gay. And it's fine. And still are. No, that was not.

See, that's a different debate. I think if you, all right, let's just say you suck two dicks at some point in your life, right? Say you suck two dicks at 18. Okay. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. What? No, no, no, no, no. Not 18, like we're not talking about like you're homeless or something like you need a place to stay or like you're going through.

In college, you wanted to suck some dick. Outside of college, we're talking 27, good job, roof over your head, bills paid, no school loans, sucking dick. Yeah, you had a new year, new me year. Yes, you did. You had two new use. If you just decided at 27 to suck two dicks in that year, that was a new year and new me. Sorry. I want to say it's so bad.

Come on. Say it. Say it. Say it. By the way, you can say that. Say what? That's a good. That word is fine.

Which one? New queer, new me. New queer new year. New queer new year. Name of the podcast. By the way, you can say that. No, that's not even a slur no more. That's LGBT.

I actually think queer means that. Queer does need a queer. And it's also more than gay. Queer is like all in common. So you're saying, yeah, so you're not just like strictly dickly. You're not strictly dickly. You're in a little bit of everything. I thought that was something else, though.

Who? Who? Anybody want to talk to that gay dude? No, I'm shugging. I'm just joking. Can I choke around? Let's ask Joey. Let's see.

Let me see. Definition of queer. Well, see, the dictionary says, Strange or odd. Okay, no, here it goes. What does the Q stand for? and LGBTQ to recognize this inclusion

a popular variant adds the letter Q for those who identify as queer are questioning. That's what the Q stands for, questioning. Or queer. It started as queer.

But doesn't it, but doesn't Q, questioning start with a Q? Also, yeah. Yeah, so our question, that makes perfect sense, are questioning their sexual identity. So if you have a minimum questioning.

Yeah, if you've been, if you've been straight all your life and then you say at 27, you decide you want to suck two dicks, that you would have to be questioning your sexual identity. Absolutely. So new queer

New Year. New Queer, New Year. Boom! And again, it's 27. Hit it. Yeah. We're not talking about struggling and then you suck a dick. That is, I think you could be struggling and suck a dick and you're definitely, you could definitely not be gay. You're trying to get out of a tough

situation. They go, my man, Joey. What happened? Joey, you got a question for you real quick. Yeah, we got a question, bro. Is the Q in Elgy? It's about tank. Joy, Joy said it's an about tank. The gays have been talking. I'm Andrew, by the way.

I'm nice to meet you, well. Talking to Mike. First of all, is the word, the Q word a bad word? Queer? Yes. No. Okay.

Boom. We figured that. It used to be back in the day, but it's not anymore. No, it's not. Like, we claim that term now. Got you. And that means somebody who's curious

about their sexual identity. Yeah, or it's like an umbrella term for LGBT community. Okay. Like, I identify as like a queer male. Also gay. So queer goes, first, it's like

I'm a superhero, I'm in Marvel. Yes. So you know what Tank said? Is that, that's queer? Can you suck, question? Can you suck two dicks and be straight? I don't know what Joe thinks that is for us though. Wait, what?

Hold on, slow down. You get so excited. Slow down. I don't know. How to put the tip in. Jesus Christ, slow down. You get so excited. I'm like Tank around Dix.

is what he said queer. When I looked at the definition of queer, it said somebody questioning their sexual identity. Yeah. So I would think that if a guy has given Falacio twice in his life, but he doesn't identify as gay, that would be queer. To me personally, I don't think it was gay. Okay.

That might sound crazy. Break it down. Break it down. This is great. So I know plenty of gay men that experimento is straight women. That didn't make him straight. That's a good point. Great point.

Now here is our question where we broke it down. We're not talking about like 16, 18, maybe in college, a little drunk, right? 27, successful, bills paid, mortgage, taking care of, no school debt, nothing, great job. January 1st, you want to try something new, new queer, new year. Two things new. Two new things. It's like one and then again. Now is it a little bit more game.

So it's a reoccurring thing. It's two times. We had a sequel. Tank said two. I don't think so. There's plenty of things to try. Like, I mean, hello? I don't think so.

Here's a question. How old are you? I'm 22. 22. Are you trying pussy? Hell no. That shit is gay. I'm over that shit.

No. Now, at maybe 14 or 15, you feel societal pressure to conform to a standard of living that has been put on you, not who you are. And you got to make sure you are with, well, I don't know. I'm assuming, but you got to make sure you are with. you believe you are. Right, right. All the books you're reading are man woman. All the movies you're seeing are manned woman.

So there's this immense pressure for you to like see if maybe that is you as well. All these social constructs. Tons of social constructs. So you try it and you're like, this is not for me. Right. Right? But 27, you go back and dabble. Yeah.

There's some cue. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's a really weird way to say it. I mean, we're not kind of, but I don't think so. No, no. No. No.

I mean, I see what you're saying. Like, I understand it completely. But, I mean, like, if he tries it, like, over two times, then, all right. You might be a little gay. Okay. So it's a three-s-suck law. Three-s-s-law. It's a three-suck-law.

Just like how you got a three-strike law, it's a three-suck law. If two is okay, but if you suck three, we've got to identify you as gay. Okay. Question. Now, here's a thing. Getting head, far different act. Than giving. Giving.

Yes. So if you found out that a guy, guy in college got head from some other dude I don't know, he's drunk, some crazy stuff, who knows, right? Way different. Bro, that's a good point.

You're doing the act as a commitment. It's the head, man. Look at, this is... Is that? Like... Am I was not doing it right? I mean, you got to the right person, but...

So you don't think Tank was gay? No. Okay. I don't think so. I mean, I get it. I get where, like, you guys are coming from, but I don't think so. Like, if it was kind of like an era in his life, I guess if he did it. That's, like, allegedly saying if he's experimented.

If he tried it, you know, a few times or whatever and got over it and he's done with it, no. I don't think he's gay. But if it's a reoccurring thing, like if he tried it at 21, then went back to Dick at 28, he might be a little gay because it's still in his mind. Yeah, exactly. The taste stays for a while, you know, like. This blew my mind. Wait, the what? It stays for a while?

It's like root beer? What? It's got an after taste? I mean, a little bit. It depends on what you do. Whoa. Okay. So, this is fascinating.

They're just like, can you leave? No, no, no. This is great. This is great. Now, here's another thing that I was told by gay and straight friends of mine. Gay guy broke it down first. Yeah. He was like, the straight men that are into trans women are straight.

they're not into gay men. Yeah. Now, those guys who are straight are blowing, if the penis is still there. Right. The trans woman. Yeah. So this is where things get interesting, right? Now, am I right about that so far?

Right, right. Okay. Because I have actually... I understand the confusion, yeah. So, right, so like from a guy who is not aware of it, they're like, wait a minute, but if you're blowing a dude, or if you're blowing a... Or if you're blowing a... Having sex with a penis, you know what I'm trying to say. If you're giving head, that might be that you're into dudes.

But they're specifically not hooking up with gay dudes and they're hooking up with trans. Like I have comic buddies that are really into it, right? Jim Norton. Yeah. Loves it. Right? They don't view that as gay at all. Thoughts.

I don't think it's gay either. Because those trans women identify as women. What they have in between their legs don't matter. Got you. Isn't what's in between somebody's legs What determines whether somebody is gay or not? Isn't it like the same sex? They call it same sex relationships for a reason.

Right, right. It's like such a weird gray area, honestly. So if a guy identifies as a girl, but he's like butt-fucking male, yeah. Yeah. So he still has the penis and he's butt-fucking you. That's straight. Yeah. All right, 2019.

Hey, we're here, baby. See? No, we're here. Listen. The only thing I didn't like about the tank conversation was tank saying it was homophobic. I'm like, it's not homophobic for us to try to figure out how many dicks does it take to be? How many dicks you got to suck to be gay? That's a little, no.

I don't say it's homophobic. Nobody wants to be gay no more. Yeah. It's a double standard. I don't think it's homophobic, you know? Yeah. I'm glad he stood up against it. Right.

And didn't care what, you know, people said about it. You know, he got the gays on his side. This is the new, how many licks does it take you to get to the center of a tuccy pop? I'm saying it's it. How many dicks do you have to suck to be considered gay? That's what I... This is the question. And in the cartoon commercial, it's like, one, two,

and then that's it. You're trying to keep going. Why do people act like the term gay is so bad now? Yeah. That's what I'm starting to realize. That's what I'm saying. That's what it is. This is more about the label than the act.

If we had no negative connotation with the label, it would be meaningless. He would have to speak about it. Or you'd be like, yeah, it's a gay. Yeah, it's kind of gay. To suck dicks. Like, who cares? but the fact that he's defending the act

is because he doesn't want to be associated with the label. But can't we blame him though? Because people already started coming for him for it. Because there's crazy prejudice associated. You can't blame him. Right? I don't think they came for him because of what the act is. I think they came for him because of the confusion is saying,

if you suck two penises, you're not gay. You got to think people's whole lives they've been taught. Oh, wait a minute. A man being with another man is gay. My whole life, I've only sucked one penis hoping I wouldn't be gay. turns out. You're really taking what people have learned all their whole life and ripping it up and saying,

no, that ain't the case. You know what I'm saying? So it's more like confusion. It's confusion, that's all it is. People do not like confusion about anything. When it comes to anything, we do not like it. We need, for whatever reason,

we need shit in order. We need symmetry. And the reality of the matter is like, life is pretty fucking confusing. It's just like people care too much. That's the thing. Like, what you mean? Well, there's a bigger social cost for guys

When a guy has like a gay stigma, right? Because like if you eat some pussy in college, I'm not going to judge you. Yeah. Right? Like I think it's awesome. But if I sell some dick in college, you're like, I don't know if I want to be with that guy who suck dick. So if women weren't so homophobic, we would probably be way more open.

Nah, chose, I agree with you. It's really women fault. Because what are I like? It's women are prejudiced. You all want to, y'all want to accept it, man. And no man can tell you all they used to suck dick. And you're going to be like, but it's just like,

all we want to do is suck some dick out here, ladies. Why can't you accept us? By the way, that was on insecure. Wasn't that on insecure? Yeah. That was on insecure. This guy Molly was dating, had went down on a dude in college or something like that.

And she didn't want to date them anymore because of that. It's true. Joey, thank you for talking to us, man. Thank you. Appreciate you, man. Appreciate you, Joey. Of course.

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Oh, you had an eventful YouTube week. What happened? Oh, man. Bro, first video up, you go viral? That wasn't the first video, though. Well, still, it is. It's been a month. You know, whatever.

I'm not going to. I'm just so stoked for it. Almost a month. Maybe two weeks, two weeks. I love it. I think it's great. I'm so excited for what's to come with this. I thought, I enjoyed the conversation with Gucci Man.

You know what I'm saying? The reason I enjoyed the conversation with Gucci Man is because I am at a place in my life where it's all about mindfulness and it's all about mental health. And I've always been intrigued by stories of growth. That's why I've always gravitated towards the nation of Islam. Right. That's why I've always gravitated towards the autobiography of Malcolm X, you know. Just any story about transformation and evolution. And I mean, in hip-hop, there's not too many stories you can look at, you know, and really see evolution in a real way.

like when it comes to Gucci Man. You know what I'm saying? If you remember Gucci Man way back in the day when he was, you know, on the lean heavy and he was, you know, wild and fighting in the mall and fighting women and, you know, like just why he was a wild, out of control dude and to see him grow and evolve into somebody

that people look at as goals. Yeah. In a lot of ways, a lot of ways, especially body goals. you know what I'm saying? Because you saw what he used to look like physically. You see what he looks like physically now. I just wanted to have that conversation with him.

Plus, I've seen him say little things like, you know, Malcolm Gladwell is his favorite author. And he did a conversation with Malcolm Gladwell before. And I think a lot of that stuff goes under the radar a lot of the time. So I was like, you know what, if I sit down with Gucci, he's put out 101 projects, what do I want to talk to Gucci man about? All I want to talk to him about is his growth and his evolution. And I think if, I think for a 59-minute interview,

54 was about mindfulness. Yeah, it's very mindful. Yeah, it was about mindfulness. There was a little regression at the end. The last five, but like he said throughout the interview, he's a work in progress. Dude, before we get to the last five, I was, I never underestimate successful people, right?

I don't care how silly people present themselves as, you know, like the Seth Rogen's of the world, are these people who are like, yeah, I'm a stoner, bro, I'm fat, I just eat nachos all the time. It's something there. I'm like, bro, Adam Sandler is like always in like, you know, ripped clothes, khakis, but you're worth hundreds of millions of dollars. I'm like, eh. You know what he's doing. You know what you do.

And the same thing with Gucci. I'm like, hmm, you've signed all these artists that have ended up being successful. You saw them in early deals. You've been instrumental in, like, the, you know, you know, creation, at bare minimum creation of a genre of music, right? But also, like, made millions of dollars doing it, so I'm like,

now, this guy's got to be really smart. I just haven't really seen in-depth interviews maybe with him being, like, sober. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he was talking about, like, coping with life stuff in a really intelligent way, right? Like, there was a moment where you go,

where he was like, you know, yeah, I just block it out. Or I just become numb to it. He was talking about deaf. He talked about his father dying, his mom dying, his homeboy Shored E. Lo, and I asked him that he'd give himself a chance to grieve. Because all this was fairly recent. Yeah. And he said, and we can play the clip as well, but he was like, because it's my content.

But he was like, you know, he doesn't grieve. And he said he kind of just blocks it out. Yeah. I asked him, is that healthy. And he said, I don't know if it's healthy, but it's practical. Dude, that line right there. I don't know if it's healthy, but it's practical. Yeah.

Certain people don't have the time for health. Certain people don't have the luxury of health. Mm-hmm. In a lot of ways, we live in the first world, so we have it. But, like, mental health is a luxury. I'm going to sit here and I'm going to think about my thoughts and think about how I feel. There's motherfuckers out there, like, how do I get away from this tornado? Absolutely.

How do I get away from this hurricane? Absolutely. And, like, I just thought it was such a poignant observation about, like, what he had probably done in his life to get through these things. I liked it because I think that's what we're all trying to do. We're just all trying to find practical ways to make it. You know what I'm saying? Whether it's practical ways just to make it through life, you know,

financially or practical ways to make it through life. mentally. That's what therapy is, right? Therapy is a practical resource that you can go do to try to be better mentally. You know what I'm saying? Cutting out carbs. It's a practical way of being better physically. I think that's what we're all trying to do.

But you have to have self-awareness to even know that you won't improve, right? And that's what I got from pieces of this interview. I was like, huh, this guy recognized certain behaviors. Like at one point he says, and he goes, I realize I had to level up. I forget the exact words. Like, I had to learn more things. I had to get more skills. Yes.

That is a poignant. Yes. It's a poignant observation about your own life. Very, very rarely do people go, I need to be better at this. Man, shoot to my dude, Shaka sing whore, singhor. I know I'm pronouncing out of Shaka's last thing wrong. Forget me, my brother. But he's a brilliant author.

He went to jail for murdering somebody back in the day, but he's like rehabilitated his life. he was reformed his life. We need to have Shock on the podcast. He'd be a great guest. But we did a panel together at A3C, and Shaka was talking about when he was locked up. Okay. And he said his warden, the warden, or the CEO,

was a bumbling idiot. And Shaka said, I will never let somebody who's intellectually inferior to me be able to tell me what the fucking do. And he said at that moment is when he decided to add more skills. So he just started reading and just educating himself because he wanted to add more skills to his right. repertoire. And that's what you have to do in life. Some people just get comfortable and feel like, no, I'm going to make it with what I have right here instead of always trying to better themselves.

Yeah, businessmen add weaponry. Absolutely. And, you know, weaponry doesn't have to be tools of violence, right? It can be just tools of success, you know, like, I guess Gucci realized in the world that he was operating this, this music world, he's like, I need to be more refined. I mean, to be more refined in the world world. In the world world world. Music world, he had it. As a wife, as a husband. You know what I mean? As a family. But also, he's like, but also. like physical health, like all these types of things were part of this greater thing. It wasn't like, I think the narrative that we were kind of fed

was he went to jail and you work out a lot in jail so then he got abs and then people liked his pictures on Instagram so he's like, I'm gonna keep the abs. You're right, but it starts here. And you got, I saw that. I'm like, you know, this is up here. No matter how physically fit he got. No, this is, we, do you remember, do you remember Gucci, man?

Yeah. If you remember Gucci, man, then you know it started right here. So, I mean, that was the thing that I was most intrigued by. I thought it was great. I think you guys should all go watch it, see the God. YouTube, YouTube, see the God. Thank you. It's got almost like 2 million views, but who's counting?

I mean, that's not, I mean, whatever. It's like 1.1 and less than 25. But who's kind? Yeah, but it's like, nobody cares about stuff like that. Yeah, it's a 2 mil. It's a light 2 mil. It's a light 2 mil, bro. It's not even that big a deal.

Come on. And I see people, you know, asking why would I do that interview? And let him talk about. Well, let's talk about the. last five minutes, right? That's what you're bringing in. Yes. Right? So now you're referencing it. The last five minutes, he had some choice words for Angelie and DJ Envy.

Absolutely. And you got some pushback from people there like, why would you keep that part of the interview intact? Yes. And you're thinking? Because I'm not into censoring artists, especially when it comes to responses to people in the media. Like if you're a magazine outlet, if you're a radio personality, if you're any type of cultural critic and you say something about an artist, that artist has every right to respond.

He has every right to reply and you cannot control the narrative of said artists. Like look, I could have, I could have edited plenty of things out of Breakfast Club interviews. Those aren't live. I could have edited, I could have edited Benie Siegel. I could have edited Fredrikal Star. I could have edited Birdman. But why would I do such a thing? Like, if I'm on the radio, giving out donkey the days and giving my cultural critique of people,

who am I to tell that person how to respond? are how to reply. There are probably interviews that you were not at at the breakfast club where maybe artists had choice words for you. That's absolutely happened before. And I imagine those choice words were kept in the interview. Of course. And you did not personalize yet. That's what those people felt like saying.

I don't think that any interviewer should be responsible for what an interviewee says. Do you think you're being held responsible for Gucci's opinions? It was me. If it was any, if that was any other interviewer in that interview, it wouldn't be an issue. But being that me, Angeline Envy worked together. You're supposed to protect them or something like that. Yeah.

I don't know where people get that from, though, that I'm supposed to protect them. Like, he's an artist. He had an opinion on something that they did. Like, you know, they went on a breakfast club. They did 20 minutes of breakfast club court. They said things about Gucci. They said things about Gucci's wife, you know, are. or played things that rapper said about Gucci's wife.

Gucci had felt the way about that. That's that. Like, I don't think it's that big of a deal for anybody to be tripping saying, you know, like, oh, well, Shalaman shouldn't have done that. Like, no, I am a interviewer. I am a personality, a media personality. My job is to be as biased as possible, which is very hard to do. Unbiased. Unbiased as possible.

Maybe I did say it right the first time. God knows what he's doing. I'm explaining. What is, it is, it is my job to be as unbiased. Here's what brother Leonard is saying. Shut up. That was a good one. Hey, I really wanted to hate on you for that.

I was like, why would you interrupt this flow? But it was pretty good. That was a good one. But no, it's my job to be as unbiased as possible. Right. As simple as possible and for everybody to get it clear, I just don't feel like you can say whatever you want the artist. and then try to control the narrative

with the artist is. I can't do that. Don't we criticize news organizations for this all the time, right? Don't we criticize like a CNN or a Fox News for like just harping on their narrative and like cutting certain things out of the news cycle

that could affect their narrative? So if we do the exact same thing, we're guilty of it. That being said, I also understand a coworker that you have time with and invested with feeling like, yo, why didn't you protect me

from that potential embarrassment? You had the ability to protect me. him how, though. By cutting it out, by not including it. That being said, that's censoring the artist. Right. And then that artist goes and says,

yo, I did this interview with Chalaband, and he cut this out next one and Zee. Who wants that? 100%. No, you're in a very tricky, you're in a very tricky situation. And by the way, I've cut things out for artists before.

Right. Meaning like if an artist says something that I know is going to get them fucked up. Blah, blah, blah. Are any arrested, fucked up, you're in a deal? Like, bro, cut that out.

Let me save you from yourself. Now, that's a recent practice over the past few years, only because we've seen the climate of things. You know what I'm saying? Back in the day, guns are blazing. Everybody, host, guest, whatever. But now I was like, bro, you know you can't say maggot. Right.

You know what I'm saying? Like, they're going to snatch a show off the air. Like, let me save you from yourself. Because some of these brothers and sisters, they just don't know. Right. Because they're young and they new to this, but I know where that's going to go with you. You know?

You thought in this specific interview, nobody needed saving from themselves. Nobody's career was going to be able to be. By the way, by the way, I did quite a bit of editing. Really? Oh, yes. It was much longer than, uh... No, just that last portion was... It was crazier.

Yeah. Oh, so that was the PG-13 version. Yeah. PG-13, yeah. Absolutely. It was, yeah. So, yes, I still protected in a lot of ways. I see what you're saying.

So in your mind, in your mind you're going, you should have seen what really happened. That's part of it. But even bigger than that, because I probably wouldn't have done that if it wasn't the situation of my coworkers. You know what I'm saying? But in the bigger scheme of things,

well, no, I would have done that even if it wasn't my coworkers just because it's just, it's language. It's language that can get people fucked up in certain situations. Again, so you're protecting against cancellation. Absolutely. But just in general, once again, I just don't think that you can say whatever you want about artists

and then try to control how they respond. I can't control how Birdman comes in the studio when I say, I don't know why people sign the Birdman, he don't pay nobody. I can't control how Fredro Star reacts to something. I can't control being seen people to jump me in front of the radio station for something that I said. Like that's out of my hands. So if you're going to be in this game, we talked about being on the court earlier.

That was another podcast. But we talked about being on the court. If you want to get in the kitchen, you got to take the heat. You got to take the eat. You got to take everything that comes with it. You can't throw certain things out. And then when that person wants to respond, whether they respond with truth, whether they respond with lies, whether they respond with fact, whether they respond with fiction. However they respond, you got to eat that.

Yeah, I thought, I don't know. I watched it and I was like, I can see how someone could be sensitive about this situation. But, like, I was also watching going, I was also watching it as you have like somewhat of a pacifier. You're like, I'm going to get you guys on a phone and this, that, the other. Like, I don't think that you are rattling. up. I didn't even ask about it. That's right.

You were trying to finish the interview almost. I'm like, I wasn't even asking. I'm like, shit, here we go. It's like, here we go. God damn it. Yeah, we're going to see how much you don't give a fuck. I'm like, shit. You thought I changed.

And he said it though. He was like, nah. We ain't about to just be like on some, no. Yo, see you later, Gucci. You know what I'm saying? He's coming. Nah. He asked some shit he wanted to get off his chest.

What I'm supposed to do? Yeah. Listen, I don't believe in centron the artist, not when it comes to stuff like that. Right. I just don't think that's fair. I don't think that's good journalism. I think that shows the lack of integrity. Right.

I'm just not about that life. If I say something, artists have every right to respond, and they have various platforms to respond on. And it doesn't matter who that person is sitting with. Because what, yo, what if Gucci would have came to the breakfast club? You think his wording would have changed? 100% no. It probably would have been worse because he's right there.

Right. With the individuals. Yeah. You understand what I'm saying? So you got to keep that same energy. Like everybody got to keep the same energy at all times. Yeah. That's all I'm saying.

So why is it worse because it was a one-on-one? Because if it was, that same shit could have went down in the breakfast club? I mean, it's worse because it was successful. What do you mean? I mean, if 200 people watch it, nobody cares. Yeah, if 200 people watch it, I'll just shut down my YouTube. Like, this ain't for me. I'm more of a radio guy

You're gonna listen to me with breakfasts love Yeah But that's the moral of that story Yeah Yeah I think it's reasonable You know

I guess Hmm Yeah I'm trying to think Like how I would react In the situation If somebody was Someone's being critical Of you

But if they're like Yeah I think my gut instinct Would be To defend you But there's also My gut instinct would be to defend anybody if it was inaccurate information. Boom.

What Gucci did to me was just more of an opinion. And it was a response to something. The response to something that he heard from them. So I can't tell that man how to feel. Yeah, you can't be. You're not offended by someone saying about your wife. Exactly. They did what they did on Breakfast Club court, you know, played the Yogiadi interview with Yogi

Gotti was talking about his wife. I don't know. What was that about with the... I don't know. I guess they had a relationship back in the day. But Gucci was responding to that. that's his feelings toward what they did. Yeah, it's like, why are you, he's like,

yo, you embarrassed me on this platform. He just wanted to know what's up. So there was no correct thing that needed to happen. Right. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. But the moral of the story is, I hope you all enjoyed the Gucci Man interview.

Oh, yeah. But listen, let's pay some bills, and then we'll come back with the 85 South show, okay, Carlos Miller, Chico Bean, and D.C. Youngfly. Yeah. Guys, this podcast, this podcast, why don't I have an English accent,

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call them special guests. They're just more like fucking family and friends. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Stop talking like a city girl, man. Just like a little thought. More like family and friends.

They're cool or whatever. Chico B. Carlos Militisi, Young Fly. The 85 motherfuckusk. Yeah. You know, the streets have been asking for this for a long time.

No, when y'all came before I wasn't here, right? Yeah, we were in your script. How is everything? thing, though, man. Y'all look like y'all really are prospering. Y'all got a 20 team entourage. Hey, man, that's how we want. You got to let everybody play their position. That's how it works. What are the positions?

Shit, well, how to hell you orchestrate a show and a sold out there to show? Well, you got to have a guy who know how to fix the audio. You got to have a dude with a regular camera. Then you got to have a dude with a motion camera. Then you got to have a dude with a tripod. You did? Yeah. Then you got to have a thing that makes sure that the white folks ain't playing with the money.

Then you got to have another motherfucker who know how to find a parking spot anywhere. Somebody with a credit card. Carlos had a lawyer. You had your attorney with you. Somebody with an Uber account. Somebody got to have an Uber account. You know what I mean?

And you're usually going to these venues and they have people that's already in place that do that work. But we show up with people that do the work for us. Don't search that guy in the corner, man. He wants to. Who said? No.

I need you a lot. We don't search the guy. My boy, Joe. We bring our own guy and put him in the corner because we know what he got on him. And it's all black on the table. too. I see. Yeah, we got one minority.

We got an Asian dude. That nigga black, man. I know, but. He said a nigga out of the day. Black and not minorities. But I'm saying like other minorities. Oh, got you, got you. We try to create opportunities

for everybody. I'm a podcasting shit, man. We really, oh, this a little. Y'all are a podcast. You know what's up? That's all. All right is in the game. That's it.

That's it. You do. You do. Yeah, but that's how I operate. That's why white people keep the money. See? They put it in the studio. They don't want to give us

niggas. no money. Yeah, and plus we're from the hood. I mean, it looked good. But trust me, man, we are, we are budgeting over here. We made it. We made sad agreements with everybody. They look like they're being successful.

So everybody just traveling, everybody just traveling for the love? No. Yeah. No. Just out of doing it for hugs and kisses. At one point it was for the love, but you do it for the love to get to the point

where you can make some money. And the people that stuck around that was consistent and persistent in what they did, they were able to see it come to a point where you actually make some money from doing it. Hell, yeah, it's dope when you tell your partner to quit his job and come kick it full time. You don't do what you do. Look at my man Roy back there.

Yeah. Roy, what's happening? Exactly. Roy, you quit your job? You told me motherfuck to quit their job? Well, I think they're going to quit anyway. You must be getting some money, a lot of money. Not even just this show money.

You're still selling drugs, ain't you? No, it's not that I'm getting a lot of money. I just go to work every day. Like, every day, seven days in a week. I got like 15 jobs, bro. I'm a comedian. He's a comedian. He's on D.C.

TV show. I got a podcast. I got a website. Yeah. You know, I'm just trying to acquire currency. Merch is booming. Sold out shows. Yeah.

All this shit, man. Talk your shit. We just trying to become. I got a few dollars. Beep, beat, beat. You know what I'm saying? Entrepreneurs for a long time. And you just gave away all that money.

Fucking, you speak on success. $250,000. My neighborhood needs some of that money, fool. Well, I gave it to an HBCU, South Carolina State University. For real. That was your money? that you gave? You said what? That was your money? No, you heard what he said before. Was that my money? Yeah. Who money was it? Wait, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not. I'm going to tell me money. I'm going to say something, though. It's a little insulting, because y'all said it had that kind of money. I didn't say that kind of money. I know you're rich. I just know you're cheap. You had a number one selling book. You know how many niggins got to buy that shit to read? It's not that we didn't think you had that kind of money. We didn't think that you had that kind of money.

It's just they think you would give it a weight. I mean, that's my mother's alma mater. South Carolina State University. So as a way to honor my mother, I opened up a scholarship in her name. You didn't even go to college. No, not at all. That was a little. So that $250, you give you a degree for it.

So that $250 going to be like for the scholarship. So the keys to use that $250. The way I got to set up to qualify for the scholarship, you got to be a black woman from South Carolina. And I'm a majoring in either English because that was my mom. You see that Andrew's show? Math, Even the black man is holding the black man back. So when $250,000, you can split it up to how many different women that can use it.

I think that $250 goes to $5 to $10 maybe. That'll pay for the ride. Now you got to take another check down now. What about the black men? I'm going to do something for the black men. Going to take $70,000. You're going to tell them, niggum, fill out the goddamn application, the fast phone, motherfucker. You know what's crazy about that, though?

People looking at that $2.50. Hold on, what is that? People looking at that $2.50, but that's only because, like, I guess people, In our culture, I'm a notable person, right? Yeah. But Jim Clyburn gave $1.7 million. Nobody knows him. He doesn't have a breakfast club.

I went before him. For real. I told Jim, I said, Jim, I'm going before you because you got that big ass motherfucker But he's like a councilman or something? He's a congressman. He's a lot. He should have been giving a million a year. Jim, how time you step up?

He hasn't taken. It shouldn't take Charlemagne bringing a check for you to want to do some. No, no. Jim been doing stuff for the school, but his wife just died. His wife from Monskorn. His wife died like four weeks ago. So they opened up a honest college at him. his wife's name, and he gave him to

1.7 million dollars. I'm gonna say this, and nobody's told you this, bro. The way you talk about Monk's Corner make motherfuckers want to go there, even though we know the shit little as fuck. But when you talk about it, it makes motherfuck, like, I don't roll through South Carolina, and then you see the sign that says, but it's not, it's never close. It's always like

29 miles west or some shit. Like, I'm willing to go, if it was on my way. But I'm not going out my way to go to Monk's corner. It's like, he didn't turn it into the Magnolia of South Carolina. You just know when you see it, like, They go to Magnor. They go to Monks Corner.

You got a full stop place in a trailer park in that bitch. Monkornah boomer right now. We got a Google. We got the Google headquarters down there, motherfucker. Of course. They got a Google building. It's not a Google headquarter. Stop lying on Google.

I promise you. Google did not go down there. Open headquarters. They got a building down there. Google's got a thing. About a whole land for $30. It's a Google building. Not the Google.

I'm telling you. They got a whole headquarters, man. Man, we got an auntie. He ain't his pretzels. He said, yeah, we ain't got one of those yet. Y'all got Google and now. We got Chick-fil-A like three years ago. That's hilarious.

That land ain't shit down there. But too much is, who much is given, much is required. People are going to start leaning on y'all in a minute. Oh, that's too late. Man. Oh, man. We just, me and Chigo just donated $10,000 to her HBCU. For real?

We don't even know what they did with the money. Which HBCU? Kentucky State. Bro, we was there, and the kids were like, man, we ain't ate. We ain't get no homecoming. He was like, bro, we get some money together And they was like, but we need it right now. No homecoming?

I mean, they had a homecoming, but they didn't have no food to name. If you go to an HBCU, the experience is different there. Like, you know what I mean? The environment is not conducive to being able to give you anything beyond the minimum of what is required for you to be there. So it's like when it's homecoming, you know, that's a time of abundance. When you want to have a good time and all that and spend, you know, you got to save your money, spend your money, go to the parties and all that.

So you got to really make a decision as the weather or not you're going eat. Damn right. And when you got the food that's available to you, you know, that calf, them of them calf eggs make you shit two steps after you eat them. You know what I mean? So you have something good to kind of go with the ambiance of being in a homecoming environment and they didn't have that.

And you can tell them, me going to A HBCU, I knew exactly what they was feeling because it's tough. But I like to tell the kids, man, even though you go to A HBCU, you can go get food stamps. Yeah, I got food stamps when I was in college. You get food stamps at college? Yeah, boy. I ain't going to college. Oh, my God. I remember when they're full stuces, man.

When they first hit, boy, when they first hit, I was walking through the grocery store. Let me tell you. Staying alive. I was just getting anything. Howdy, what do you got to, what do you, what are you, what are you, what are you? No, it's just a regular application. Let me tell them. Let me tell them. You don't know that you don't have no income and that you're in school. They'll give you some food stuff.

No, don't tell them you in school. Tell them motherfuckers, you ain't got nowhere to go. And they're going to be like, what's this address? That's just my mailing address. And you literally, you're not lying. You're definitely telling the truth. Bro, you see how everybody got quiet because they knew you knew exactly what you was talking That's exactly how you get food stamps

When you go in there You apply Like listen I got my melanet address That's where my mail come from And at that time I was dead serious I was sleeping over this girl house Over that homeboy house

At my mom's house I don't know why And then they ask you do you have a job They ask you do you have a job Like no Then I'm like all right well look Because you need a mail in that dress For the food stand to cut line

Shout up like Boy you get 218 Every month Do you know my eyes We got stage we got crab legs That's right What?

Why the fuck do we buy Crab legs with food stamps? Because there's no tax on them They don't tax the food When you use food stamps It's a dollar 25 It's a dollar 25 There's no tax on the food

When you use For four year The government funding The money stressed so much longer Because you don't have to get no tax on it That's why you're 50 cent on a dollar type Wait a minute Does it just turn to a financial podcast?

Oh yeah This shit buzzing I used to love when I used to sell Crack and I used to come through With foodstats EBT fuck the game up You saw a crack, nigga? I just can't see you selling crack.

You're such a nice person. You were like front to crack. No, I was, I was in hand-in-head. You were just like. Just get paid me back when you can. So I don't know if you feel, because you didn't get $250,000 and then admitted to be in the crack-diller, they might run your- Oh, hold on, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, how did you look as a crack dealer?

How would you do a transaction right now? If I was a crack head. He did have an afro. He had one of running back afros. That was it? That's it? Yeah, you wouldn't have made it that long. I didn't.

I had a short run about eight, nine months. 10 months. Oh, yeah. What was your most ball and shit you did as a crack dealer? The dumbest shit I did, because I used to sell quarter spoons. Quarter spoons are seven grams. You know what I'm saying? So you're supposed to spend $2.50 for 7 grams,

and you're supposed to be able to cut it up in the 20s and at least double your money, $500. Yeah. So the most money I had at one time was like $1,000. Back then I thought I was bawling. $97, 98. That's a lot of money. That is. A lot.

You could have bought a deal. Remember when motherfuckers was ordering Dells? They were delivering them to the crib? This girl I was dating at the time I took her to the mall and it was her and her friend and everything I bought her

I would buy her friend. Did you fuck her friend eventually? No. You were not a good drug dealer. You were supposed to fuck both of them. No. In hindsight, it wasn't a lot of money. It's not a mother said it dope.

He was a trick. I bought a bitch I bought a bitch of Delle. made a thousand dollars and spent it all on another motherfuckold. You said, I made a thousand dollars spent $7.50 on my girl and her home girl. That's it.

And it had enough to re-up. That's what's up, bro. And then my dumb ass took a consignment of a half ounce. Damn. And it was some bullshit. And it was cooked mostly with Iitone. Isotone. And I couldn't sell it.

And after that, I was like, you know, I did out of that shit. Ooh, that one time where you had to stay down and tick you out. See? He was like, I can't do this shit. This nigga that I tricked me. That was when you're going to go to go to that.

slap the dog shit out that dick I am. You can't do that amongst corner. Them dope fiends strong down there. You already know he's in the real country. No, but he bought him for somebody. He bought it for somebody. Oh, well, if he, whoever he was selling it to, he wasn't going to be able to get that off.

Them dofings was coming to see. And then he was on my ass about his money. Like, yeah, you ever have a nigga front you some dope and then call you the same day for the money? No. And give me a couple of days. You did anything yet? I had a tell a nigga one time that he called me like literally like a couple of hours.

I was like, bro, you know you can come back and get this shit, right? You're on boozy trash here I ain't even told nobody I had it Nick I'm still out eating Nick what the fuck You don't put that shit in my mailbox Go get that

Somebody go steal that Boogey drug You can't wait to say that goddamn dope When the last time you sold your last Little bit of dope That was like 2013 Yeah I was like 2013 I remember that no

That's not recent That's old That is recent 2013 That's before divine Like literally like right before Devine I was still popping pills and everything. For real?

What? Lop, Joe. He won the nigga. They were like, he on it again. You know it? So what made you stop? Vind didn't make you stop, did it? Yes, it did. Really? I had to be focused, bro.

I mean, one time, when I was doing the Vine videos, I fucked around there and I had a pop to Miley. Nigger, I probably record like 200 videos. I bet your original Vind. Jall was locking. Y'all was locking. I was like, yeah, boy, you already know what time. You got that Sammy Davis Jr.

Jaws. I'm like, yeah, we're the motherfucker in the wood? Nicky, it's like 6 o'clock in the morning. I'm like, niggins 6 o'clock in the morning. We're in the hood. He is not like he'd be able to every morning, smoking the blunt on Instagram. You can go in there and see that shit.

I'm asking my mom, who she wants something from MacDonald? Mom, you want something from McDonnell. Because we're in the motherfucker in the hood. That's a 7 o'clock in the morning. That would get up. No, it was after that. Because I seen it. I had delete a couple of video.

It was 200. Yeah. It was fine. It was six seconds. So one of those six seconds was like, all, let me post. Post that. Stending a hood.

All right, let me post that. Ma, you want something about dollars? We in the motherfucker. Yeah, I got to do that one quicker. When did you start selling, Lowe? I ain't never sell, Craig. I was weed, man, a little bit. Just a little bit.

Just enough weed where I can smoke for free. Yeah. There was no profits made. None. Nah. Yeah, I know. What's the most you ever had had that one time? The most I had met this old-school nigga.

He gave me like three pounds in a frosty flake box. And he was just like, man. You just have it because he was about to go to jail. Yeah. So you know you had to get rid of it. So he brought the Frosty Flakes Box about three pounds

and I split it with my partner and that was it. That was my last go round. That was the old four. Yeah. I was in the bubble shabby then. I had half a pound of weed. That was the biggest,

that was the biggest I ever got. Was it half a pound? Yeah, but I started from a three-five though. See, niggas, I had to work from a three-five to a half a pound. God, damn. To all the people who don't know what that means. That means he took a,

just a small bag. Like a personal bag and started his empire. I'm like, how did you do that? He started his empire with 44 dollars. One blunts. One blunt that I have a powder is tremendous. He sold one and he smoked one. That's a mixtape.

That's why I try to tell me, I say, boy, you can't, you can't tell me about staying down. But that why I would say, you took your first fuck up. You're like, oh, I'm done. He sold you the bad dope. That was the first fuck up. How are you going to bounce up? And then somebody stole it. It's the scree.

You got to bounce back, baby. Hey, how he needed it. See, look. All over. Now they asked it. Now that the crack cake, like, and you're like, man,

I'm dumb. That's you. I'm like, damn, Nicky just started. Then you're like, they need you. Yeah.

And Atlanta was rough. I had a partner that got robbed in Atlanta once. Dead beat drunk. You walked out on your cat. Kids. I had a partner that got robbed in Atlanta was rough. I had a partner got robbed in Atlanta. Nick drove the Atlanta for a half a pound a week

and got robbed at whatever project he went to go by it from. I bet. He did. And them niggas made him come all the way down here too. That's how I paid a year. Like, me for the rubbed the nigga for $15. Hey man, I'm telling you, if you ever buy drugs in Atlanta and that nigga don't have a backpack, don't do it.

Why you say that? There's something about the niggas with the backpacks that's just, you could trust them. It's something about them. It's like they went to college or something. If a niggas show up and he got your pack in a backpack, you say. Are they more professional? I think so. Because it's like an end and out time.

I feel like they got more to lose. It's like the nigger. Yeah, it's something about that. It's like an end and out. Because he got it in the bag and he's like, you ready? Uh, uh,

put the money in the backpack, shoulder. Yeah, he pulled up in his baby mama car with the backpack. Safe. Nickas still hand-to-hand in Atlanta?

Yeah. Yeah. Pull up who? Nigg ain't even go to no house. Yeah. Me better meet me at that goddamn CVS. For right quick.

Quick. Go in there bitch and buy some nightquil and then that shit right there by the goddamn. That shit right there by the Oreos. You ever seen just a random nigga in CVS? Yes. You're there making the drug turning.

Carlos, you're trying to get everybody to get everybody to get everybody that moved to Atlanta too, man. Everybody that I talked to that move to, Atlanta, probably one of the only cities where it's like,

if you're a nigga and you're trying, brother, the city will recognize your efforts. It don't matter what kind of nigga you are, you can be a crack dealer as long as you got ambition.

They respect the hustle. You can flip your crack empire to selling used cars or something. It is an opportunity for your ass in Atlanta. Why you think that is in Atlanta specifically?

Because the whole. We're real knickers, man. It's, you know what I'm saying? Southern Hospitalis. If you're a real nigga, we appreciate that. I'm going to tell you what the real nigga. We don't know you. You're hungry.

You look hungry. Eat, fuck, niggles. Atlanta is a city full of pride. Well, that clarifies it? Atlanta takes pride in seeing everybody do good. Right. Like, it's for the city. Like you come to.

Thank you, loads for talking about my city like that. That's real. I've been in this. You look so disgusting, Chicos. Because my city used to be like that. D.C.? D.C., but now they didn't gentrified the shit out. It ain't chocolate city no more.

It's white chocolate chip city now. Lord, that's mercy. Yeah, it's ridiculous. And then, you know, coming from a city like D.C., like, that's the reason why I have, we all love Marian Barry so much. Like, because he did what he was supposed to do for the people of the city when it was an all-black city. Like, we went from, it's so crazy how gentrification worked because, you know, we live in a community.

Can you describe Mary and Barry for those people who don't know? Mary and Barry was the mayor of Washington, D.C. Legendary. From like 1979 until he went to jail the first time, then came home from jail and got elected again. And he went to jail for... He went to jail because he got caught smoking... Smoking a hooker, right?

Yeah, fucking with the hooker. She's... She's getting hard. But that's the thing. That makes him... I don't see what a thing. I don't see what I mean? That makes him that...

Not only is, to me, he's the most legendary politician, but that also makes him the most legendary crackhead because you know a bunch of crackhead who won none of a mayor. No, no. It's a mayor, n'am. Not none. He might be top five.

I can't say he the most legendary. Man, he was the man. This is this me personally speaking. And I'm not disrespecting the man because I love this man, DMX, bro. Because they said that whole time, no, man, they said that whole time. He was on the whole time. He was on the same thing about DMX.

Tell him about Mary and Barry, though, the crack here. He had a whole fucking series of the man, bray. He had to do budgets. He had to fix the pot. He was on crack. Oh, give me a pen. We need to write the head. his top five crackhead was done.

Tell him. Very number one. I mean, but that's the thing. We didn't even look at him like that because of the things that he did for the city. Like, he made it possible for, in a city when D.C. had the highest murder rate, the highest recidivism rate. You know what I mean? The lowest educational rates. So he was a fortunate cracket.

I mean, he was the greatest. Mary and Barry. It's like he went to jail for that and then came home and then reelected, got reelected by this people of D.C. After he got caught. On video smoking crack. And when he got caught, saw the man. Guess what his response was when he got caught.

Oh yeah. All he said was, The bitch sent me up. Really? That's it. He didn't explain shit. He didn't explain shit. He never denied smoking crack.

He never said he wasn't on drugs. He was just like, the bitch sent me up. And that was it. Straight up. The man did exactly what every real nigga do when he get all work. Want to get high and get some pussy. That's it.

Not crack, though. I mean, you don't know. It's fascinating because, like, you know, we always looked at people who had, like, serious drug addictions, but they've found a way to get money, right? And we're like, holy shit, imagine you could apply that work ethic. Because you got to think about mentality. Mary Barry did it. But you got to think about the whole fucking city with like a crack addiction. You're not successful.

But my boyfriend is like, I smoke cracking. I'm the mayor. And he's up more hours so he can do more work. When you watch the video. When you watch the video. he really knew how to play it. He ain't really know how to hit it the way she was trying to get him to hit it in the video.

That wasn't even his style. You might have just started smoking crap. Not the way that she was smoking it. What happened? She was doing it. He was doing it. He was doing it. He was doing it.

You could catch Marion Berr. You might get on the metro bus and see Marion Bear in the back of the bus talking about five old niggas. This was what, like 1990, 1990. So you know what? He might have been a cult guy. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Yes. And that shit might have just graduated around early 90. A lot of people's coke back then were also smoking crack. Like, people didn't realize it. Well, no, the crack evolved from the cold. You know, black people love it fried. Freebase.

We started frying the cocaine. Nica just said crack ain't number of fried cocaine. My mind is blown. That's really what it is. Frack cocaine. We love a briarship. Frack is fried cocaine. And it's like, when you look at what happened in my city, for all of these years,

it had all these negative, you know, stigmas attached to it. And in 10 years, they came and raised the property value to where it's one of the highest property values in the country, raised the education system in 10 years. So it's like, how can we have something for 50, 60 years and not be able to rectify and make it better for everybody? And then the others come in and get it for 10 and make everything better. It's like it just is proof that we are at a disadvantage as a people to be able to really make changes. Because all the money, all the crack money and all of that that came through the city, we don't own none of them buildings, all them buildings that,

that go for millions of dollars now that was $88, $98,000 in 1988, $88, 89. You know, nobody bought them. I mean, black infrastructure is important. That's why I think Atlanta thrives because y'all always got a black man. You know what I'm saying?

And we tried to keep that shit going on. And they made guns legal. Well, they made weed a little bit legal. You got to have 20-7 grams. It's a ticket. But, I mean, but you ain't going to jail. In D.C., when I grew up, if you got cold with a hammer,

got caught with a pistol, they give you 10 years for the gun five per bullet. You know what I mean? And now you can. legally own a pistol in the city because the demographic has changed to where we don't care that these people are

able to carry firearms. We just don't want you niggas to have them. Well, we got to protect all people from them niggas. That's all. That's what? That's what? I thought you were saying that. You were saying that. You really did give a quarter of a lot. Well, no, the white people were thinking that the white people are like, let's make sure that all people are on. So in case that the black people get into an uproar, because it's always going to be like that.

That's what I think America don't understand. It's going to be some type of rebellion. It's going to be black and right. Yeah. You were how old when Marianbury won the second time? I was like 10, 11 when he came out. Okay, I always thought this was so fascinating. Is that, like, someone lost to him. Yeah, a lot of people, like, Sharon Prack Kelly lost to him.

But how great, like, this guy was with a hooker smoking crack. He knows the street. A woman lost. He was the people. This was D.C., man, he did. But it's not because of that. It's because of what he did. It's because of what he did for the people.

Right. No, bro. I mean, it's because of what he did for coming. It's because of what he did for the city. Like he created the summer job program. He created all these different government jobs for black people to get work and all of that. And, you know what I mean? That's why he's always and forever will be the mayor of D.C.

Lifetime mayor. He's our president. The only thing I regret, I hate that I wasn't really old enough to really grasp what was going on at that point. Just to see a crackhead running entire city. and not be over under budget and just like put those programs in place because you know he showed up at some of them places had like

we're about to get these kids some jobs and just walk off right and did it you know what I mean so it's like to hear the things that they say about Atlanta is amazing to me because we used to have a city that was I used to have a city that was like that that was supportive

and that was driven by black economy man and it's sad to you know go back home and not recognize the city that I grew up here especially when they feel calling a chocolate city I feel like it's not just, you know, white or black cities, but there's like a lot of times when someone is successful from a smaller city and then they get like this international success or national success, oftentimes the people from home try to bring them down.

Always. Like you see that. Yeah, I catch a lot of that because it don't matter what I'm owned. People think I'm supposed to just like yell out Mississippi. It doesn't have shit to do with what I'm doing. Right, right. But it's just that a lot of people feel like, They're not going to get, you know, they want the recognition.

They haven't had that chance to be seen on the broad scale. So they're living vicariously through you. Yeah, you've got to make sure you represent every chance you get. And you got to understand. Duvold does that well, though. Dovo is all, I mean, look at his name. Duvall does it great. But you also got to understand that all of those people who know you from the beginning. Right.

And they definitely don't feel like you should be in the spot. You should be in. You know what I mean? Oh, they're resentful. Absolutely. But you're saying Atlanta, that doesn't happen. You're saying Atlanta is supportive when it's on. Exactly.

That's why you see here is 50, it's 50 top. rappers because they all support each other. They all record at the same studio. They all go past each other Bluncet Magic City and there's never no, you know, no issue like that. In Mississippi it would be David Banner, Big Cren, and Carlos.

Exactly. You know what I'm saying? I can hate on them three. Oprah from Mississippi. You never hear her say nothing about it. Wow, I know that. Oprah's from Cazesco. I thought she was from Baltimore. She is from Mississippi, baby. Real? Did she actually live that? Man, Morgan Freeman is from Mississippi.

John Grisham, he's from my own town, you know, time to kill. I went to elementary school with his son. Really? Yeah, John Grisham used to come to my school all the time. The writer, the author. Yeah, he used to have baseball games at his house. He had a baseball field in his house. His son, when we were 9 and 10, we're playing Disney Day baseball.

He had a baseball field put in his front yard. They used to have baseball practice over there. John Grisham won't cool as white man in the world, bro. He owns a whole side of the house. way, bro, in Oxford. His house is the whole Saturday highway. That she probably cost $1,000. Huh?

That should probably cost a thousand dollars. That was disrespectful of my mom. Back in. No, for real, he owned his shit. That's fucked up. He's disrespected this shit out of my man to the house. He's going to the whole side of the highway. That shit probably costs a thousand dollars.

How old that man is? And then to think that you had that and you could have bought a side of the highway but she spent it on the bitch and her friend. That's what that's fucking up, Sala, man. The shout out the Mississippi. We don't get enough love. They had to cut back on the budget They don't even cut the grass on the highway no more

That's shit like a jungle For real? Yeah We gotta do some shit down there shawler man What you wanna do? I'm with it! I don't know, brother Because you know

How it is in the South and you know Small Town They just have that small town mentality We can't really do shit But like a barbecue or something But you know how far that go? Yeah I did a fish fry over the summer

Because I do my bookback giveaway In Monskorn every year But this time I added a fish fry element to it That shit was jumping In the rain. Yeah, man You'll be surprised how fucked up people are.

Right. You know? Because growing up, when you grew up in that environment, you don't really look at it like that because all of y'all... Because everything's the same. Everything is the same.

All of y'all, you know, doing without, all y'all poor. And everybody living pretty much the same. Yeah, man. We all smoking the same weed. We're sleeping with the same women. Exactly. Drinking the same corn liquor.

But when you step outside of it and you look at it from the outside looking in, you're like, shit. Let me ask you a question. Show it's like, how does it make you feel growing up in the environment that you grow up in when you go into these communities if you do and see

the type of, you know, whether these people are living in the type of conditions, does it make you feel like you have any responsibility to help? Or does it make you feel like, man, I'm glad I ain't got to deal with that. You know what's weird? Is I kind of grew up in between both, in between two worlds. Like, I was incredibly well off and I didn't need anything. Incredibly well. It was awesome. Like, I never.

This shit was amazing. Not, like, dude, it was amazing. It was amazing, right? You're never going to say, like, I'm struggling. What I'm saying is, like, I'm struggling. Like, I also had, I grew up in Manhattan, right? So I had friends whose parents, like, ran AT&T. That's different money.

So, like, when I'm around them, they think I'm poor. But then I'd be around friends that grew up in the projects, and they think I'm as rich as it gets. So I realized early how relative shit was. But I never need, I was never, like, needing for anything. So I knew how lucky. But the same time, I knew how high it could go and how low it could go. Yeah, it just proves how success.

is subjective. Yes. You know what I mean? Success is very subjective because you have somebody who, you know, looks at what you have going on and said that is the ball

when the person that you're looking at has a whole other spectrum. You were saying this earlier. Before we started recording it, I thought it was an interesting thing because you have a little bit different philosophy on dreaming than most. You know, a lot of people go,

just dream the biggest possible dream you can dream. and you say don't do that because you could put a limit on how far it could go? Yeah, you put a limit in my opinion, you limit the ability

that you can get out here and really see how much you can manifest by placing that this, what's the success you guys are? I would have never said what the things that we've been able to do if somebody would have asked me

after, you know, my first six months are doing stand-up comedy. Hey man, if you can say what your career would look like First of all, you're basing it off the success that you're seeing. Right. So you're only going to be able to base it off what you, oh, well, I want to be the next whoever.

I want my career to look like this. Not even knowing that there's a whole other lane that you can create that has blessings and success. That's never been done before. That's just specifically for you. So if you don't limit yourself to what people say success is supposed to be, you'll be able to manifest a whole different type of success that you didn't even know what's possible. But don't you have to have some type of bar, though? Yeah, I mean, but to me, the bar is just knowing that you're doing something that you love and being consistent in it, getting up and doing it every day.

I started working when I was nine years old at the barbershop. And once I figured out how to make money, I would do my homework in school just so I can go to the barbershop during the week. You know what I mean? Because I enjoy the hustle of it. I enjoy being able to get up and go out and get something for myself. So as long as you have, in my opinion, as long as you have that type of drive and consistency to do what it is, that every opportunity that you get, like, you're. You say every opportunity don't always come with a check attached to it. So if you just had a drive to get up and be the best version of yourself that you can be,

all the things that is going to come from you doing that are going to be specific and unique to you. Me and this dude and sat and had conversations, not necessarily about what we were going to do, but just talking about all of the different things that we have done and how crazy it is and how amazing it is. And we see the success, like you've been around us for a long time. Like, even I'm sure you seeing us as being people that can do what we did, I'm sure you're looking like, man, these niggas is doing. No, I think y'all doing, I don't even think y'all scratched the surface. No, I know it's going.

It is so crazy to see what's happening, though. But, I mean, I've been such a huge fan of you guys for a while. I think, like, every once in a while just randomly text Carlos would be like, bro, seeing what's going on is just fucking nuts. Because I'm on Instagram, so I'm just, I'm seeing you guys go from, like, clubs to, like, theaters to these, like, massive fucking theaters. And then you were saying you guys just did the Apollo here in New York twice. Yeah, two sold-out shoes. Now, this is interesting to me because, like, back in the day, the idea would be, here are these three Southern guys, they're going to be a Southern act,

we'll tour them around the South. And now, with the Internet, and you guys have this massive success, you come up to New York, and then you sell out two shows at the Apollo. At the Apollo Theater. And that's because funny is funny. You know what I'm saying? Are you surprised by that? Are you like, yo, these guys can even get us?

See, I always look at everything as a comedian first. Like, I feel like I got two careers. Like, my stand-up comedy career, it doesn't mix with my entertaining career. Right. Like, I'm moonlight as a comedian at this point. Yeah, yeah. Because everybody's take New York for a comedian. Yeah, this is where you, this is like, this is like the final level.

Yeah, yeah. Like, you come to New York to make sure everything works, like your timing is right. So it's like, to come here and be embraced as a comedic star. Yeah. It's fucking crazy. See, I think the South is tougher. And the reason I think the South is because you can go down South

and you can be the funniest motherfucker everywhere else. But then people down South if you're looking at you like, I don't get none of this shit he's talking about. You know what I'm saying? And they'll run you off that day.

Think about what's that shit that's doing Atlanta? The chocolate Tuesdays. Not chocolate. Charlie. That's LA. Tripping on Tuesday. That's LA.

But see, this is the thing about doing comedy in the South. This is the one thing people don't understand is like you can have the best set ever. You can have the funniest material.

But if you don't have that segment in your show to let people know, hey, I'm standing right here in front of you. I see you just like you see me. This is off the script. This is off the cup. This is organic. I can do that also. If you don't give them that, they don't give a fuck what you do. Like you have to acknowledge the crowd in the South.

Like you're just trying to sell me something. They can't just walk out and hit your script. They want to know it's real. They want to know you can do it organically. And then, okay, you can do your jokes. And then you can do your jokes. Is that tricky for you guys? when you guys do your stand-up specific dates?

No, because I'm not one of those comedians that's like die hard by the material. I'm not one of those ones like, oh, I didn't get to do my octopus joke. I give them to fuck about that. You know, like, New York comics, they are so like, ah, I didn't get to do my one.

Like, who cares? It's not even about jokes with me. It's like, nigga, what can you do to entertain these people? Can you give them a show? Fuck the jokes. Fuck the set. What should show look like? But that's where y'all best shit come from?

Even when I've seen Chico in Philly, and he started fucking with Gilly the kid. And that shit will go viral. You got to keep in mind. All of that type of shit, that's from coming to us being fans, bro. Like, me and Chica,

after the shows, people think we got all these holes and shit. Man, we'd be kicking it, smoking a blunt, watching Wallow and Gilly the kid. Like, we still fans of motherfuck. And you should always keep that energy.

Right. Like, I approach it the same way. I'm always a fan of the coach at the end of the day. Exactly. Is it weird when you see the people that you idolize,

like in your DMs? Right, every time, who's the weird? Call me. I'm fucking drop my phone. Oh, shit. The thing I... When was it? This was a month ago? Yeah.

I think I'm just scrolling randomly on YouTube because you guys, your stuff populates my YouTube feed all the time. You know how YouTube kind of like chooses the shit you like, right? And I see full Dallas shows it. It was like full Dallas show. You guys did like the actual show. You did it kind of like doc with it. And then it was featuring Dion Sanders.

And I thought like he's going to bring you up or something like that. Or he just showed up. Like, how the fuck did they get Dionne here? This motherfucker's on stage with them. Oh, they're on me in the hood with it now. Bro. For real. Yeah.

It's so crazy. How does his hair look? Is it legit? Yeah. It's legit. Man, it's just wild to me because it's like we had the meeting last year with fucking Revolt, right? Yeah. And we're sitting there with Puff.

And he's talking about his favorite moments from 85. This is shit. We never thought he was seen. Right. When you talk about your slow cousin, work at McDonald's. Chico, you're losing weight, man. What's a good? No.

A long way. I walk to people like that Chico would you change your diet? Did he tell you that you lost weight in? You look, you lose weight. Hey, man. He put him in a drink. Freaky shit, man.

They're playing with that freaky shit, man. Shalda man got niggas tied up in his basement. I know. You have the same punk fiction. That nigga got a gimp in his basement. Shottler man got a whole gimp. Man, got a whole gimp. You're going to fuck the Rigo money up.

He's going to fuck up the Rigo money up. I'm going to fuck with it. Did he? hilarious, man. Listen, what did the uncle you're saying? I didn't want to say funny after that segment

so I said he'll lie. He'll call me randomly and just be talking shit and I'm like, man, I'm such a big fan. He'd be like, yeah, fuck all that. But did you see him

wheelchair, man, jumped up out of this wheelchair? Like, when we did the BET Cipher, I looked at my, at the comments on that you posted and Bun B was like, man, Chigo went crazy

and I almost pissed on myself Because it's like, I love UGK. Like that was one of the groups that I grew up. Even, you know, D.C. was so unique because we had our own music with the go-go, but we were heavily influenced by Southern music, you know what I mean? And Bun B and Pem C was like, idolized them growing up.

It was one of the few rap groups that I actually believed. You got a Pimsy tone. You got to play Pem C in the movie, you know what I mean? It was, it was one of them people that I just looked up to and to see that and to see that acknowledge. is just like, wow. Like, Twister is another rapper.

I used to get on punishment. My uncles would make me learn Twister verses and shit. Like, nigga, know this by the time I get back home. Wow. I met one of my, oh-Gs, bro. Tone Loak. Tone Loak.

Wow. Wow. Yeah. Fucking Comed Dina. God damn. I was like, nigga, Tone Loke. I met Freddy Kruger, bro. Robert, Robert, England?

The real Freddy Kruger. I know Freddy Kruger. Yeah. And we get excited about the people we meet. When I was at the airport, I was like, nobody knew who he was. I was like, just some random nigger. I was like, nigger, that's Freddy Krueger. He was like, remember you tripping?

Remember we came by him? And I was like, what shit? And I was like, bro, I'm taking a picture. And he was like, hell yeah. He was like, would you please just like, do the Freddy Krue voice? He's like, no, I don't want to do it. Then this lady was like, can you hurry up so we can get a visit? And he snapped and turned into Freddy Krueger.

He was like, wait a minute, bitch. I was like, yes, yes. Yes. Yes. That was the. coldest shit, bro. I love me. We meet people, man,

and we'd be excited. Who was that we seen coming out of the mall that day? Oh, the old school, the old school black dude. Howard Hewitt. Howard He was sitting outside the mall. Oh, nigger, I don't even remember

where we was at. We were somewhere crazy. And he was just sitting outside of the mall. And I met Project Pat in the airport. That's right. Man, I had to FaceTime this motherfucker. I'm in the airport. I'm like, man, fuck that.

I'm on the face time. Don't have a big. a fan to me. Project Pat go haul. We was just talking about Project Pat last week because didn't some guy he called somebody a scally wag? Please bring Project Pat to the breakfast club. I don't give a shit that he don't have nothing to promote, bro. We just need that for the internet.

Project Pat is a whole legend. That's why when I look at these motherfuckers now, and they act like the artists now are dang shit. They used to look at Pat the same way back in the day, but Pat was going platinum. And had a fan base, hell, hell yeah. He's still not a lot of rappers

that can rap better than Juven now. Come on. Juvenile, one of the coldest motherfuckers ever pick up a microphone. I want juvenile to do C.I.W.A. Come on, man. Did she got mad, call me bitches and motherfuckers. I waited till she got by the door,

reached back and snuck her. She did like any bitch would have did. They got the law for me. They're talking about going press charges and get up for me. I told her when I get out of jail, I'm a bitch awful. I'm a bitch of awful.

That was fucked up. That was before the Me Too Times. That was back in the day. Listen, they better hope that they don't get to coming back with the lyrics. I'm a tank fan. That nigga used to go hard and on. Be song.

Man, listen, you don't remember maybe I deserve that. At the end? To grab your throat. Yeah, I mean, until you let me know. Listen to the end. The title of that song is wild. Maybe I deserve. Then that niggins said to grab my coat and chase you down the street.

Nigger, that nigga was going crazy. What did that bitch do, Tank? You got to do an unsung on why you wrote that song. What does she do to make you grab your... Because he knew he wasn't coming back in the house. Because usually if you're chasing somebody, you don't think to grab your coat. You're like, no, I'm not stopping. I'm going to catch this bitch.

I might be out here for a while. I might be out here for a while. You know why, Chico said some real shit, but you know why the Me Too Times Up movement or none of that shit will ever affect hip hop? Why is that? Because everybody loved a problematic hip-hop song at some point in their motherfucking life.

Even Chris Rock made the joke about that shit. You remember that? We're talking about how women love the most misogynistic lyrics. It could be a song called Slap it with the dick, slap it with a dick. Oh, yeah, yeah, I do remember that. Shut on the balls. He's going to support this.

They ain't talking about me. Yes. At some point, you sang along the Snoop Dog ain't no fun if the homies can't have none. You bitches ain't shit, but holes and tricks. I know how women at some point sang along that shit. And Nate dog on the beginning of that song was so disrespect. And if you can't fuck that day, baby,

just lay back and open your mouth. Because I have never met a girl. And then my nigga corrupt come right behind. That's hard. That shit was so sick. I look in a hole. I never get a fuck about a bitch. I never have a motherfucker.

I know the smoke. I get looph and loony. Bitch, you can't sue me. Do we look like BBD? You hooty, groupies. I got no love for hoops. That's something that I'll learn in the pounds. So how the fuck am I supposed to pay is ho?

Just the late is ho. I know the pussy's mine. So I'm a fuck a couple more times. And then I'm through with it. There's nothing else to do with it. Pass it to the homie. Now you get it. Because it ain't nothing but a bitch to me.

And y'all know that bitches ain't shit to me. I give us a fuck. Why don't you pay attention? Approach it with a different proposition. I'm a rough. You'll never be my only one. Trick-ass bitch. It ain't no fun.

What happened? When Snoop dogs said, I fucked on the floor so I would mess up the bed, then Lil Half Dead put his dick on her head. Legendary shit. And Snoop is a family-friendly artist right now. That's why I'm an icon. You can't fault a little Half-Dead because he didn't say he assaulted her or he disrespecting her.

All he did was laid her his dick on her hair. Right. He just got her like, quit having so much dick. Get your dick off my head. We don't play like that. That's why. It was never no anger. That's why I wish Pimsy would have stayed alive, man.

I don't know if he was a joking dick on the video. You know what I mean? You think Pimsy would have been doing commercials? Pimsy would have been doing commercials if the Pimp was still alive. What kind of commercials? Any type of commercial. State Farm, all that shit. Are you in good hands, bitch?

Like, I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you, man. I'm telling you the times have changed. Hold on, bitch. Left all that. busted ass insurance alone. No, I'm time out.

How do we go from there to? I got a young brown style and then she's 20 years old. When you pop it from the back to see that hairy asshole. Not only was he into pussy hair. He was into hairy asshole. You know, after Pimsy said that line, I was always looking for hair and the asshole.

I felt like I wasn't getting the right type of women because there was no hair in the goddamn asshole. You can't even find a pussy with a helmet. But we are going to get shut. down. No, we just reminiscing about

the old time. Yeah, I mean, but maybe that's why we were so mean to women they had hair in their fucking asshole. I mean, you know what?

I think, you know what I think it's changed because it's a whole lot easier to be offended now. Back in the day, in order for you to be offended, you had to get up

and go out into the world and be offended. Go hold some picking signs or some shit somewhere. Show up to a concert and stand outside. Now you can give your opinion publicly and privately

at the same time so you can be offended while sitting in your living room doing nothing. So it's easy. and it's more influential. Yeah. If you get a bunch of people

tweeting about a company, they'll drop something. When people would pick it outside of a company, nothing would ever happen. Can you park in the back? Those dickheads are out there. That's a protest.

You know what? I had that comment. You're right, but I had this conversation with David Allen Greer about the living color and he said, back in the day,

you really had to work to complain. Because you had to write letters. Yeah. And then the fax machine came and you had to send the facts. I'm going to say this. All of that shit is fake.

What you mean? Protesting people? Like, I did a show with Michael Vic. The Michael Vick comedy officer, they never let the shit come out because the fucking dog people showed up and they were protesting.

Peter, you mean? No, like, yeah, like animal rights. Yeah, yeah, got you. They all even necessarily say it was Peter or whatever, but it was just some people who came out and protested and they were out there

for like three hours until he went over there and everybody wanted to take a fucking picture. I'm like, are you bitches upset or are you just fucking up the money right now? Fans, you know what I mean? Yeah, they all wanted to take pictures day.

It's crazy how it's changed because in living color couldn't come on Hell no. They had a whole sketch about a handicapped superhero. Which was actually empowering, though. It was hilarious. But they had a sketch.

It's a sketch that, man, go back and watch this sketch. Like, when you watch this sketch, if you think about it playing now, like, it's scary to think that it coming on TV now. It was a sketch they did. I can't remember the white lady name, but she was a realtor. And all of the different races of people came to see the house, and she was saying all of the stereotypical shit about the reason why they would enjoy the house. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like she was like, oh, the black dude cat to Tommy Davidson came in. She was like, oh, hey, how you're doing, brother? You'll love this place. You can fall asleep to the sound of gunshots every night. It's a ghetto right around the block. Then the Asian dude came and she was doing all types of races. Asian Jones and the shit was funny. But now it would be like, you're out of here immediately.

And the funny part about the living colors, they used to make fun at everybody. Everybody used to get, they used to go at Farrakhan. Yeah. Mike Tyson, white people, gay people, handicapped people. Everybody was getting. Sometimes I watch family. Family guy and I'd be like, hey man, fuck y'all. Why, they be racist?

They'd be racist. They'd be racist. What you mean? What Peter finds his black relatives? I never used to watch that show. I thought Cleveland was his black relatives. They're legendary with the racism. And they go at everybody on family guy.

Jesus, everybody. They're disrespectful. But if you, if you appreciate comedy, you understand that there's nothing that's not offensive to somebody. If you're not offending somebody, then the joke isn't really funny because if it's funny, then it's going to offense.

Is that true, though, Chico? Yes. Every funny joke is going to offend someone. Yeah. There's no victimless humor. No at all. No such thing. Really?

Yeah. You do a joke about big titties, little titty women get mad. Fat asses, little asses. Black people, white people. Every thing you're talking about, somebody am like, oh, that ain't true. See, I'm never a good gauge because I don't have a, I don't care. I like the laugh. I've seen you laugh at some fucked up shit before, man.

That's the only shit. Some shit as a black man. I was like, nigga, how you going to laugh with that, Solomon? Like you just said some shit the other day where you was like watching Power is the only time I'd cheer for the white man I was like what? It's the truth.

Dude that shit. We don't ever cheer for the white man. I don't get the fuck what's going on. I hate all the black characters on power. Not publicly. Privately you're going to root for the white man. Privately. You can do that.

Privately. I don't know what this motherfucker fucking whin and shit. Who you privately room for? What white people are you privately? Man, it's a lot of privately white people I root for that I'm fans of privately. Like, what's my man named that made that song? Hold up. Before you even say it.

Take me away. See, when we're a fan of white people, we never know their name. You never heard that's my man? You ever know the name? Yeah, what's my man? I don't know. Hey, hey, what's my man? Who was, uh...

Who was? My man that was the choker. What's his name? Oh, Joaquin Fien. Yeah, we don't never know their name. What's my man from all? Now you know how we feel. Hold on.

We got a shout out. Dion Cole got a funny-ass joke I keep hearing that. I got to watch this shit. He got a new special about how when black people love white people will never know their fucking name. Got to check that. Yeah. Who is this? Dionne Cole.

Oh, I love Dean. When I used to go up in the black rooms in New York, I would get brought up as just the last Jewish guy that they knew. See, what's a black room? A room with a lot of black people in? No, it's like... The room's handling circuit. A lot of times it's in a bar. Why don't you call it the chilling circuit?

Nobody even eats chilling. there's no fucking more. Isn't that like a Southern thing? No, man, fuck that. They used to call it the Chitlin Circuit because motherfucking clubs used to actually sell chitlins in that bitch. But these were never clubs.

These were always like it's in like a bar. Yeah, that's how prominent racism is. Man, they then forced us to the back roads and barbecue clubs and shit like. Ain't nothing wrong with the Chitlin'Cruits. Tbilis.

Tala Pia didn't make a billion dollars in the Chitlin circuit. But the thing is the fucked up part about it is if you once you make the Chitlin circuit too cool, they're going to come get it. Like, you know what? They're doing. Now, cut the chitlin circuit off.

I have a chitlin or two. But what I'm saying? What is a black room? So, I mean, like, do you, you're serious? No, because they're like, that's my... I'm a good answer. I'm really... I'm really...

You've been playing black ruse your whole life. You came up to New York and played that. You know I know what the fuck it is. Who are we describing this to? So listen, so this is what I'm saying. This is that question. Say something little racist. No, exactly.

Hey, Schultz, will you say something little racist? I don't know. I call you out of being a racist. So what I'm saying, though. The black rooms are the rooms. There's like legendary New York comics that have hosted these shows for years. I mean, Smokey Suarez is the guy that. Capone.

Drew Frazier. Drew, shout to Drew. And then. So what I'm saying, is, if I go do comedy in a room full of white people, what is that called? Depends where it's that. No, what is that called?

We call those the alt rooms. No, it's not. See, that's what I'm saying. I asked you that because it was like Batman. You do not want to have a room for the white people and call it the alt room in this era. All right? No, no. They're going to be the All right.

So in New York, right, there's like, there's the mainstream room of the clubs. That's what they call it. That's what I'm saying. So it's like, if you do a room full of black people, it's a black room. But if you go to a white club and it's white people, they're like, oh, that's main street. You're comparing two things that aren't the same. The rooms are a place that does comedy, but it's not a comedy venue. So it's at a restaurant or something like that.

The alt rooms are the old rooms and those are the ones in like Brooklyn is a bunch of like weird white people usually to perform there. I've seen black people not working in black rooms. Right? I've seen Hannibal's not funny Hannibal funny but Hannibal don't work in the black room That's a different kind of I'm not You see you want to like single out But there's a lot of community

They're just in the game No but you notice even about the road There's certain clubs on the robe That they call the black club or the white club Like you go to like what is it Like in Dallas like one room One improv is like oh this is where the black acts come through and this one is where

And I know it's because that's where they book me Yeah I mean it's like that What's that the comedy store In Virginia Beach they do They do a white show at 8 o'clock. They do a black room. They call a black show. They have a white headliner.

They make you walk past all the white people that's really making it to walk upstairs and fucking struggle. That shit don't make no sense. Well, Lowe said is riddle. They got a white show and a black show air. Like one of those funny bones in Virginia, they have a early show where they have a white headliner. And then they have a 10 o'clock show where they have a black headliner.

But that's the black room. Hold on. Are you saying Virginia is racist? Yes, very much. Holy shit. Just like the rest of these motherfuck. This is motherfuck. This is crazy.

What's all spending your money on, man? I see Chico over there blinked out. Hey, man, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. This is over years that they,

I saved light-skinned Charlamagne money to get different. You know, I mean? No, I just, you know, for me, I really, I like what I like. And I don't always like that shit. Like, you know, I just, I'm able to get, you know, get it at my, you know, what's the word I'm looking for?

discretion, my leisure now. You know what I'm saying? But I ain't one of the motherfuckers that feel like I got to impress nobody else because I feel like if you start to buy things that really don't make you feel a certain way you're doing it

to try to appease the outside of the shit. I like what I like and I don't give a fuck how nobody else feel about it. It's the shit I'm into. You guys are talking about people, right? That now listen to your stuff. Right?

What you make? Back in the day, we could all make jokes about the famous people that we see on television. You can't do that shit no more. I think they know you. I think they always been listening. Say what?

I think they always been listening. Yeah, but now they DM us. So it's a weird thing. Like, you know every time you make a joke about a rap or something like that, he's going to hear about it. And you might have met him. And you're going to bump into him somewhere. Do you have a different approach to it? Are you a little bit more concerned?

Do you lean in harder? No, I mean, it depends. It depends on what it is you're saying. Like, that's a slippery slope because you aren't able to determine. determine what somebody else interprets its disrespect. Right. It's a joke to you. You can never determine.

And that's the disrespect is subjective too because something that's disrespectful to you isn't disrespectful to me. Very true. It's like a line that you have to told, but it's certain things that are just blatantly disrespectful. If you like a troll like Charlemagne, like some of the shit, it's just unnecessary. You know what I mean? You don't have to say that. You just leave motherfuckers alone. You're just being mean.

You know what? So what? But you still? You're like you did the top five crack ears. You're like one of the top five trolls in the internet history, you know what I mean? You're an old soul, Chico. I mean, but you have like the situation that happened with you and Nip, God bless it dead.

Like the way that y'all handled that, the way that you said that you handled that, that's something that can happen with somebody who has, you know, the ability to be able to conversate and say, hey, this is why I didn't like what you said. This is why I found that. I was just, man. He still ain't fixed that shit with Birdman. No, that shit ain't getting fixed problem. I don't have a problem with Birdman, but, you know.

He don't fuck with me. He don't fuck with you. You know why you don't fuck with me? Because I can't stop saying what I'm saying. And my only thing I'm saying is why do you keep signing with Birdman when he got a reputation for not paying people? I don't know. I don't know.

But the nip shit was fucked up though because I knew better as a man than to do what I did. Because I didn't know that him and Lauren was together, but that don't got nothing to do or nothing. I ain't have to say nothing about that woman's weight. You understand what I'm saying at the time? So that was just fucked up on my part. I knew I knew better than to do that. But man, one thing about that social media and shit,

You will get caught up doing some shit You ain't got no business doing and saying some shit You ain't got a business saying Because that shit is like a stage And you feel like It was at one point where everybody was just trying to out Out fucking Troely church

Yeah, I don't want to say trove It's a worst word than that Out shock You want to say the most shocking shit about people I can't believe they said this about that person This and that So it was everybody got caught up in that for one moment But now you've been on that for a while

Right now you guys are at this stage Where like the people that you're talking about that you make jokes about, even at the show. Even you're making fun of someone in the crowd. You're dressed like blah, blah, blah, this, the person you're referencing is going to call you. And are you, do you stop? No, I can't let your personal feelings fuck with my art.

Like, we'll deal. Listen, you know me. I love this. We'll deal with that shit later. If it's that serious, brother, security can escort you out or you can get on social media and leave a bunch of comments. Whatever you need to do. Whatever you need to do to express yourself, do that shit.

As long as you don't fucking touch me, you're good. Right. And I wouldn't say that we're speaking on anything that is not public knowledge. You know what I mean? It ain't like I'm saying, hey, man, that motherfucker don't know how to fry chicken. Stupid, motherfucker. Like, it's not anything personal. It's, if you're talking about it.

That's bull. That's the most personal thing in the world is. All of these artists know what niggins is saying about them. They all got social media. Just because you can put a face to it, don't get mad. They'll get mad at you because they know Tico Bean. I didn't know Carlos. They know Chalman.

That's shit different. bro, it's like, like when you get to a certain status, you can't even joke with your home boys no more because that shit hurt different. Yes. Because there's like envy, there's a little jealousy, there's some resentment. Well, it's kind of a mixture of all of that,

but it's like once you're the, you know, the success in the room, it hurt different coming from you. By the way, dude. Not your guy saying your shoes ain't shit, Meek Mill said your shit. Not only are you right, but that shit happens all the time. That shit ain't going to never stop. Meaning like you can be in the rooms with other professionals.

And because you are who you are, you got to walk a certain way because you might hurt them motherfucking feeling. But they can talk to you and your own kind of way. But that's how you find out, that's how you find out who you're real friends are when you start to have success because it's the people you can act yourself around still. We've been around motherfuckers who are way more successful than us and they're real insecure. They try to watch and be like, oh, well, get him off stage or why are you saying this or why he got all those people over there? Why is he doing this? And I'm like, nigger, you are who you are. I'm just in the atmosphere and all this shit is new to me.

You used to it. So you don't respect that you. You don't even enjoy the shit the same way I do. That's energy. That's something about the energy that you can't fake that. You can't recreate that. You can be doing the same thing in somebody, but your energy just isn't the same as mine.

Whatever it is, the world, whatever world you're living in, you are as connected to it as I am to mine. So you're not going to ever be able to give the same type of, emit the same type of energy that I am because you don't have the same connection that you have to whatever it is you have going on. You're not dedicated enough to it to be,

to be secure to be able to say, I don't give a fuck what you think about what I got going on. Like, that comes from, that comes from, for me, that comes from my upbringing. Like, you know, my father was murdered. So I didn't, I had to take on the responsibility that a man was supposed to do in a lot of ways

in my house. So when my friends was outside playing football and riding their bikes, I had to walk to the grocery store with the cart to get the groceries for the house. And I remember one day I was pissed off about it. And my Aunt Murray, who I got on my chain, God bless her. Like, I came in the house and I was like, man, I don't want to go to the store. She was like, what's wrong with you?

All the niggas at the grocery store know me by name. All the people that work in there know me. I just was feeling like, man, I don't want to do this shit. She was like, okay, you got a choice. Here's your choices. You could either figure out how to not give a fuck about what your little friends, think about you handling your responsibility, or you can just tell your mama you ain't doing that shit no more.

I'm like, well, that's an easy choice. I ain't telling her shit. But that helped me understand the importance of opinion. Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I'm entitled not to give a fuck about it. Yeah. I have the ability to be able to utilize whatever it is. I want to have going on and be secure enough in it to where you can think whatever you want to think about what I'm doing. But as long as I'm not knowingly hurting myself and nobody else, who gives a fuck what you think?

That's a great point. I think a lot about opinions nowadays because we're so surrounded by the opinions of other people. But I always ask myself, do we really give a fuck about what these people think or do we give a fuck because we know the shit that they're saying is not true? and you just have a nature in you that just wants to say, they can stop lying. No, but no, but that's like, to me, that's like walking past a line of people

and ignoring a line of people that's trying to give you $100 to go argue with the motherfucker that's asking you for $100. It makes no sense. It's like they're not offering, this person is not offering you anything, but you'll rather stay and give your energy to somebody who has nothing for you

rather than to pay attention of the things that are beneficial to you. But that's just a mentality that you got to kind of break yourself out of. And it's tough, especially with all of this, access that you have to people telling you how they feel about you. But I just, you know, like I said, growing up, I never had the luxury of dependency. Everything that I was wanted, I had to go get on my own.

So that makes you become numb to what people think. Because when I'm going to the barbershop to work or riding 18 stops, the whole foods, the bad groceries, people are like, man, what the fuck is you doing that shit for? Man, we're outside, bro. You're missing something. No, I'm not. I want the joins when they come out next week. And my mom are not buying that shit.

And your mother might, or you might just be okay. we're not okay with not having them. I'm not okay with not having them and I know my mom are not buying them. So I got to fix that. I got to do something about that. So now living in the world that we live in, I understand that everything that I do is going to come with scrutiny. That's a part of celebrity. That's a part of been a part of

celebrity for years. It just gets you a whole lot quicker than it used to. Like you said, David Adlerciss said it took a long time for you. Here to hate or see the hate. Because nine times out of ten, people are not going to walk up on you and say the shit they wrote in the comment on Instagram. No, they're going to ask for a picture. Yeah. They're going to ask for a picture. I'm going to say that shit to you. You know what I mean? They're not going to say

it but it's just you got to figure out a way to not let that affect you to not let the opinions of strangers affect your day-to-day actions. I've never been talked to in person the way I get talked to all along. They would never talk to her like it's rare. Like it's rare. When I say

it's rare, like very rare. Because motherfuckers don't really feel like they just want somebody to come through and like that goofy and shit. Bro, it happens all the time when, I mean I seldomly respond to a negative tweet or comment, but when you do 90% of time.

It makes you look like you heard. It does. And then you look pussy. But like 90% of time the response from them is, y'all was just playing, man, big fan of your work. And I was like, that's it. From now on now, you just want attention. You're too insecure to like say, hey, good job.

What I'm curious about you guys is, how do you guys manage the ego of success? Like, it's random that a group of three people comes up. And, you know, you see them bands all the time where, like, you know, they start to like split up or one person doing this. the internet pumping all of you guys up. Like, Chico fans are going,

yo, you're the greatest Carlos fans. You're the greatest. You're the greatest. Do you guys sit down and are you like, yo, we're not going to let that fuck with us? No, man, we don't have to do that.

We already know who we are. We were already who we were before we even started this. So it's like because you guys were already friends when you guys had nothing, the success isn't affecting a friendship. No, because we fans of each other. Like,

I actually want to see this man do good. I actually want to see DC do good. It's not like. I'm like, oh, they're too successful. They're going to leave me. Like, this is what this is for. Yeah. Like, we are formulating right here because out of these three, one of us is going to be, you know what I mean?

Or all of us. But we are pushing each other to be great. There's no jealousy at all with this. Not at all. And this is what keeps me humble in that regard to where I never even allow my ego to reach that point is that the things that I would consider to be nuisances in my life now. Seven years ago would have been the solution to every problem that I had. Like what?

Anything. Welcome to success. I got to pay a thousand dollars for a flight. Word up. Seven years ago, nigga, a thousand dollars? I got a thousand dollars. I'm not going. I got a jeet.

That she wasn't even an option. I'll drive, my name. I'm a drive. I'm going to drive. So it's like, I can never allow myself to get so caught up in what I have going on to think that I'm bigger than anything, especially nobody's bigger than the program. And what we have going on and what we're able to do comes from a place of us being able to build. Like, we used to walk to the. at first season in a while

and out we used to walk to the Western Union to send $50, $60 home, washing our clothes in the laundry room at a hotel. Like, that was the reality. So it'll never, no matter how much success we achieve, and it don't,

not necessarily just saying that because we came from that, but no matter how much success we achieve, you can never forget the fact that before we had any of this shit going on, we were able to build with nothing. When we had nothing going on. That's the best people to come up with, man.

That's why I love my wife. so much man I know y'all not fucking each other but that's why I love this niggins said a weird and shit for no man I'm telling you that name that they got a gimp in his basement the gimp I don't know if y'all are fucking a night but I mean it'll probably prove y'all relationship you know what I mean y'all should give the shot one time well I'm just saying when you come up with you're a sword fight you know what I'm saying no motherfuckers no when you come up with somebody from the bottom and they know you're struggle with somebody from the bottom you know she's going to look at so this guy I'm just because I know That you still trolling.

You're talking about that I didn't have. You troll. That's the troll shit you do. Try to sneak in some homosexual activity every chance you get for no reason. So if you guys ever watch football naked? Like what? The fuck does that have to do with anything? No, I'm just saying, you know, because it's just, it's really tough now with the way you try to dress this shit up with some intelligence.

How often do you use your nipples? I got a question. I'm going to use that one for real. Oh my God, this guy's so crazy. But now, you know what they remind me? It reminds me of me like me and Duvall. You know what I'm saying? Like, people wonder why I root for Duvall the way that I do it.

Because, like, we... I've seen that shit. I'm picking that nigga up when I had mad clothes in my fucking... Who said it? Somebody said it. No, he said it. But it's cool. He's white.

That's big play games like that. You know what? That's our favorite game. You know what? They get drunk and put their dick on each other. We learned it for the rap talk. You know what I mean? Salty sleeping.

And we... Put it in his nostrils. Hey, why the fuck was his name Little Havden? Hey, man, that's the thing you got a name. Hey, man, hey, that's just that California life. It's, I always like to plug slim shit when I get a chance. It's a YouTube page that I subscribe to and I watch a lot called Kev Mac Videos. And Kev Mac Videos is a dude out of L.A.

He's from the 60s and he interviews all of the old OG gangbangers from L.A. Oh, wow. And all of the historic guys, all of the big name guys who helped start the infamous and just to see how deep they take that culture. And then some of the names, little beer can, you know what I'm saying? All the type, man, you got to watch this shit. Some of these names you've got some of the craziest names you'll ever hear your life. But it's just, you could tell that that culture is just the way to date.

Whatever it is you did, that's what they named you. Do you all I mean? So why was he a little half dead? I mean, because he probably was all the head, though. Oh, I know that. Yeah, see. Half dead. He probably was half dead.

at some point and they named them. That's just lazy. You just don't want to learn somebody named. Yeah, right. There's just some ghetto hood shit. They were to call you

little freaky nigga. You know what I mean? That would have been your name. Little suspect. Little half gay. Yeah. Hey, you know what? I know y'all got to get out of here, man.

It's interesting to me that Chico, you said you never fathomed this shit. Like you never dreamed it. You never envisioned it. I envision success. I envision success.

Okay. But I didn't envision the specifics that people ask you to give them when they say what's next. Got you, got you, got you, got you, got you. I've always envisioned success. I've always seen myself being successful. I've always, we sit and have conversations about, you know, just how amazing the journey that we've been on thus far has been. But for me to have to give, when you somebody walk up to you and be like, all, when the movie's coming. And it's like, first of all, you can't, that, that comes with being an entertainer.

But you, you're an asshole if you do that to a regular person. Like if somebody working Starbucks, like, I'm like, all, baby. You're on Frappuccino's now. When you're going to start? When you're going to open your own shit? When you're going to open your own shit? When it's going to happen? You know what I mean?

Oh, bro. You've been here for five years. It's just coffee. Right. How hard is it to become the next coffee mom? It's like, so I just, I ask people that all the time. When people say that, man, when you're going to be in movies, when you're going to do this, what you do for a living?

What if I came to your job and asked you that? How would you feel about having to give an answer to that? because we don't really have any connection. You're just looking for me to justify whatever it is you got in your mind so you can go tell people when you see me. Yeah, I had to ask that motherfucker about this down to 30. I don't mind the question, but my answer is always going to be reflective of whatever's next is what's next. It's also their idea of success, not yours.

Exactly. Like, they might grow up going the only way you're successful in entertainment is if you're in movies. As if it looks like I think it should look. Exactly. Whereas your idea of success might be complete. You just want to do standing up. We're living it. We're walking in it.

So you'll never be able to understand. I don't feel successful. Every day I wake up, I feel like I ain't did shit. Like, I feel like every day I got to get up and prove myself. Did you envision anything lost, though? Did you have a dream? Bro, where I'm from, I never even thought that this shit was possible. Like, when I moved to Atlanta, I didn't move the Atlanta to do comedy.

I was just getting the fuck out of Mississippi. And I had started doing like some improv and shit. And then I took that shit on stage. And then it's like, the comedy shit is having so fast. Just go around the world with it. And then it's like, now. I don't feel like none of that shit even matters. Like, every day I get up, I got to find something to do.

I got to find some kind of way to get in front. Even if these people follow me, I got to find something to do in front of a million motherfuckers. I don't harp on nothing I've done. I don't feel successful at all. I mean, but you got to invest in yourself, though. That's just thing. And I'm not just talking about financial, mental investment. You got to mentally invest in yourself every day.

That's something I strive to do every day. Every day I strive to mentally invest in myself. I take time to just drive my car for it. hour or two or whatever I got to do just to be able to be in my own space and stay mentally healthy and stay in my head and stay away from the things that society tell you that you're supposed to subscribe to. It just

don't work like that for me. And like I said, my background makes me the way that I am. I grew up different. My father got killed when I was two. This is my Uncle Reggie. He was killed in 2002. And I don't remember losing my father, but this nigga was the closest thing that I had to a father figure in my life of all the other men that I was blessed to be around. And when

he died, I remember when they poured a plug on and he passed away. I walked out the hospital room and I was walking towards the exit and my everything I'm never felt like this before I'm I'm sad, I'm angry, I'm vengeful, I'm sick, I'm everything and then I remember how a hospital in D.C.

When you walk out to exit, it's like a courtyard and when I walked out into the courtyard everything was moving. All right man, I see you at lunch. I'm sorry, excuse me young brother like and I realized then that you were in control of your world and the world will always function no matter what

it is you got going on. The world is That's your going to keep in. A story, because it's like, my mother had passed away on my way to a show. I was driving to a show. Like, I'm almost there, like, an hour away. I got to call it. My mother passed. My headlined.

This was 2013 New Year's Eve. That's the day I lost my mom. So I was headlining my New Year's Eve show, and I'm like, there. So I had to go and perform this shit. Two whole hours. I didn't even get to take a minute to be like, you know what the fuck does this happen? So that day right there changed. everything for me. So I'll know, even

like at the worst, even at my lowest point, broken heart, whatever, whatever, I still can do this shit. I could tell jokes with my fucking eyes closed. So I never worry about no shit like that. And it's just like that changed my whole perspective. What was the performance like? Were you more locked in?

Standing ovation. It was just like I don't even remember the shit I'm saying. I just was going. It's just like, this shit was automatic. That she probably was a good release for you in that moment though. Yeah, it definitely was. So it Just like that story right there It's just like

It started to make you Prioritize everything And show you what's important Like what you can invest your energy into And what really doesn't mean shit That's why I go home so much That's why I love going home To most corner man

Yeah I mean Put shit in perspective You can't think of how many motherfuckers Who made it to that level Can't go home Can't go to the neighborhood That they grew up in Yeah

There's a I mean I'm sure you guys grew up Watching comedy right You guys seems like It seems like connoisseurs of comedy Yeah definitely grew up watching it. Do you ever, do you ever, like, sit back and reflect and go, like, okay, those were our heroes growing up and then, and go, holy shit, we're, like, on that path now that there are

young kids watching us in a way we watched those people. That's the reason why, you know, I still take every picture, you know what I mean, especially with young people, because I always liking it to, if I would have saw what I know I am to them as a young man, how would I have wanted that person to treat me. If I walked up on Martin in the mall, how would I have wanted Martin my interaction with Martin to be? And I try to make sure that

I try to give that type of interaction to young people because you never know. That could be the thing that shapes them in the belief in that. You definitely don't want to be watching TV 20 years from now. Yeah, Chico Bean shitted on me. Been my biggest driving force. I get it.

Yeah, it's just nuts to like, just to kind of be in that moment. I always try to do that, you know. I mean, you can imagine success. You can imagine these things that are happening. You can imagine, like, the downfalls of the industry as well. But it's often hard to just sit in and go, wow. Like, this is happening right now. The dream that I had, I'm inside of.

Yeah, that's why this shit is so amazing because it's like every day you're living beyond your wild. You're like, you've lived. What the fuck. You've done all the shit you wanted to do. Yeah. Like all the shit is extra Do you think that at the Apollo? Like you're at the fucking Apollo.

You rub the fucking wood And are you like going through this flashback Of all the times watching it? Right. Yes. And I'm going to tell you something, I got a lot more that I want to do. But if this was it, I would be happy.

I'm not tripping. You know what I'm saying? Thank you God. You can have goals and aspirations for yourself and we all do. But I'm just saying feeling the need to feel the pressure to appease people who don't have any vested interest

and you get into the point that they said you should get to. You know what I mean? You shouldn't have, that shouldn't affect you. Then what you, the goals you said for yourself and how you try to manifest things for yourself should mean everything to you. You know what I think about success? I think that success, you're truly successful

when your dreams don't just concern you anymore. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? When your dreams are about impacting other people, you know, and how you can empower and influence other people. Like, to me, you get to a certain point where you've got to be selfish to a certain extent. Exactly.

And then when you realize, like, Man, the shit that really makes me happy right now is helping other people. Exactly. So I think that's what, that's what I see with y'all, you know, eventually. That's why you got a 30-man entourage. You're big inspiration, too.

I just did my first back-to-school drive at my hometown. I've seen you doing that shit for the past couple years. Yeah, man. We gave around 5,000 backpacks, man. We always give, like, credit to you as you specifically because when we came in to that, to the, But while an outfold, you know what I'm saying? They didn't think we was going to be shit for real.

For real? Honestly. No, my goodness. We were the two stars that they never thought would happen. Like, we were never. I didn't see nobody else. No, we were never on their radar. No way.

I remember the audition. You remember when we audition? Yeah, we were all there. And I specifically remember both of you, Lose, you made fun of, what was Nick's, like, African guy? Dorian. The big black dude. You kept calling the Mighty Jolian.

And he was wearing this like brown jumpsuit with these like white sneakers or something like that. And then Lois goes, man, you look like a black and mout. Or something. I remember that shit, dude. And even Nick, Nick said it to us after that first season. Like, man, y'all niggas stars, man. Y'all gonna be stars.

You know what I mean? He always was, he always said it. But in regards to that space that you don't have no control. control over that executive space and all of that. They didn't look at us as big. But they don't know shit nowhere. But still, but for us coming into the game, you think that that's necessary for you to feel validated as a star.

And it took us to not get that and be able to go out and touch the people and see like, oh, it didn't happen immediately. No, but it's inevitable. Sometimes it's not immediately. 2013. 2013. That's the thing. It's like, I've noticed, I've always noticed people that take advantage of opportunities and take advantage of moments.

It's not just like being big, but it's being, it's being great in moments. Like, I remember watching the hip-hop cipher, the comedy cipher that you guys did, right? And I'm watching specifically for you guys, and I'm like, are they going to be rappers or comedians in this moment? Because the win is being comedians. Yes. And that's the approach that I took to it. I know. Both of you took it.

And I remember watching it, but the other ones on it, like, Aphion really came with, like, bars. But I was like, that's not for you to do. Now it's jokes. and you said the thing about was it was Jess what did you say? Take their wig off shit shit, niz.

Yeah, I'll try to get it. See, troll. A whole troll, man. You think you could catch me, bro? You're not going to be able to do it. You think you catch me, bro. Come on. So, and it's like you guys came with the lines

that are going to be memorable and they're going to be tweeted and people are going to react to those lines and it would be so easy as hip-hop fans get caught up and man, I'm just going to deliver bars. Everybody got bars. What is going to stand out?

And when you guys went for it, I was like, all right, they get it. But that's what we do. We've always done that. Like, we've always done the shit that we fuck with. Like, that old school battle came from Losey in the break saying, hey, bro, bet you don't want to battle old school. Nick, let's run it. You know what I mean?

And that ain't nothing that you, the structure of what they wanted to have happen and all that. We were like, whatever, we're going to do this shit. Because there's been a lot of people on the show who they were just trying to push so hard. But you can't force it on people. Exactly. You can't do it. Either the people who fucking.

with you or they not? That's weird to me because everybody knew D.C. because of the Instagram. Even then, though, MTV bought D.C. in because he had that following. They didn't really get D.C. like that. I didn't think he would be when he ended up being at all. That's the best thing about D.C. though.

It's however good you think he is, he's better than that. That's why I love him. He's like, I've literally seen people be like, ah, he's just going to go over then fuck it up. But then he goes over there and he literally like fucks it up to the point where they were like, damn, we didn't know he could do all that.

We didn't notice he can sing, dance, do backflips, ski, ride a jet ski, then you know how to put babies to slip. He can moonwalk. Motherfucker has great memory. He can read. He's spontaneous. Like, this motherfucker is way more than you would ever think.

Right. And you've been able to see that in us so early as something we appreciate because you always, you know, made sure that you reached out and said, hey, man, I want to give you an opportunity. I remember we did Gag Court. That's what we met at on the set. Yeah, God, Cork.

You know what I mean? Yeah, fuck that. I was the only nigg on here never been on that shit. It was only one season. Now, I met you before, Guy Cork. Because when you auditioned, Dolly introduced me to you. Yeah, but you didn't know me then. You was just like, what's up, nigga?

And that was it. No, Dolly was like, yo, you got to check out, Tico. We met. I mean, once we worked there, well, I say that's the first time we worked together. And I remember I did that juice box argument. And he was like, yo, that shit was amazing, man. You know, we went to that little party afterwards and we talked. And he was like, man, I'm going to fuck with you.

And I got some shit I'm trying to get in the works. And you kept your word with that. Right. And now that the world is kind of starting to recognize the shit that we'd have been doing for. Because we didn't laid a lot of groundwork up into this point for people to go back and watch and say, oh, these motherfuckers just ain't come out of nowhere. But you have always been one of the people who has showed us love and said, hey, man, I fuck with y'all.

I rock with y'all. You know what I mean? We appreciate that because you had a platform that you allowed us to be a part of before most people did. Hey, thank you all for pulling up, man. Bro. Give me your Twitter's and Instagrams and all that shit. No, fuck that. We got enough followers.

Hey. I'm not about to fuck y'all. Y'all know my shit. If they don't know my shit, they've been there before. This shit is not new. I'm not going to tell you. You listen to this whole shit

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