The Brilliant Idiots - A Game of Horseshoe

Episode Date: September 7, 2024

In this episode, Charlamagne and Andrew discuss the concept of work and grind, the importance of taking care of one's cardiovascular health, JLo's Instagram photos, and Boosie's comments on men painting their nails. They also touch on Kamala Harris' recipe for collard greens. They discuss explores the manipulation of social media and the spread of misinformation. They discuss the use of bots and curated timelines to influence public opinion and shape narratives, The highlight the dangers of blindly believing everything on the internet and emphasize the importance of critical thinking. They also touch on the role of influencers and celebrities in spreading misinformation and the potential impact on society. Chapters 00:00 Introduction 01:23 Discussion on the End of Summer 02:22 Work-Life Balance and the Concept of Grinding 12:45 JLo's Instagram Photos and Cultural Norms 23:12 Boosie's Comments on Men Painting Their Nails 34:43 Kamala Harris' Collard Greens Recipe 35:58 The Manipulation of Social Media 53:21 The Role of Bots and Fake YouTube Channels 58:21 The Importance of Critical Thinking 01:04:21 The Influence of Influencers and Celebrities 01:09:35 The Threat of Misinformation 01:17:35 The Power of Social Media and Online Narratives 01:19:29 The Growth and Disparity in Podcasting 01:33:15 The Impact of Culture Wars 01:43:52 Switching Bodies and Careers for a Day 01:46:51 Complimenting Taylor and Her Mother's Baking Skills ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks By Charlamagne Tha God https://a.co/d/gpFlOol Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Alice Randall "My Black Country" Out Now! https://a.co/d/1VTFp9i Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" https://blackeffect.com Check Out "Summer Of 85" on Audible www.audible.com/pd/Summer-of-85-A…areTest=TestShare TaylorMade-It Production Contact: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hezekiah Walker. What so? How was your week, brother? Hey, man. It was great. No, the week was great. He was in the Hamptons. He was out in the Hamptons and joined the rest of summer.

I feel like I got everything I wanted out of summer. So I'm ready to get back after it this year. Why are people so like... Enamored by the Hamptons? Not the Hamptons. Why do you want someone to end so bad? Someone technically doesn't end until September 22nd. I don't want it to end.

Oh, okay. I don't want it to end. I wanted to continue going. Like September 3rd after Labor Day, you're supposed to like, stop sleeping with white women. No. But summer goes until September 22nd. No, no, no.

I don't understand why people are so like, oh, we got to get rid of summer. Summer's over. Like, why? Who is petitioning to get rid of something? I'm just seeing people online against the last weekend of summer. Who says, Ooh. Yeah. Summer's tell September 22nd.

Yeah, no, that's crazy. Rock out. But it's not summer. Once it September. I mean, says who? Says, like... Let's see what climate change does. Let's see what global warming does. In LA, it's red hot right now. I see hoodies out already. September. Because New York's going to be ready to rob people. This she ain't got nothing to do with no goddamn weather. Like, they just ready to get back to rob.

Fair enough. Fair enough. It's easy to rob and wear. It's easy to rob, man. How was your week? week was good Are you ready to be back? For what? Back what? Like are you ready to be back?

Summer, it felt like summer everything was chill, taking things easy, now it's back in the grind time. Are you ready to be back and grind? No. Really? It's not my life anymore.

I work smarter, not harder. I fuck who grinding for. You think I'll work this hard for 26 years? You still waking up at 4 in the morning. Because I like doing it. I like going to do radio. Right. But that's not even a grind.

I think about that every day. I'm like, God, damn. I really get paid to do what it is that I love to do. I get to do this. Like, we're sitting here right now doing a podcast. Yeah, that's crazy. That we've been doing for 11 years, that we enjoy doing. Like, it's like, did they grind?

Yeah. What? No disrespect to nobody's still on it. No, I hear what you're saying. But it's actually, you're respecting them more by acknowledging that this is not. I think there's just hours that we work that are long. But that doesn't mean it's a grind. It's something that we want to do.

It's enjoyable. Listen, there's people like they're doing things working long hours. That they hate. That they hate. We drive by them. We watch them. I appreciate your service. There's certain things.

I know I'm not going to be, I'm not doing. Like, I'm not, that's not my path. That wasn't my path. This is our path right here. Yeah. You know, so when you say get back to the grind, oh, man, I look at the end of the year different. Because September comes, after. the Labor Day, I'm already in the holiday season, baby.

By the time October comes, it's Halloween, then it's Thanksgiving, it's Christmas, it's New Year. So you work half the year, is what you're trying to say. You work until summer and then you take off. I don't know when the last time I've worked, Joe. I'm being totally honest. When you do something that you love, you never work a day in your life.

This has not felt like work in so long. No, that's fact. I don't know what that means. I think it's more in terms of like, I agree with you 100% And we're the luckiest in the world to even get to do this shit. I watch you on stage in Atlantic City. You're not working, bro.

No, that's just fun. You know what I'm saying? It's pure fun. Working, I see some comedians work. Okay? I see some comedians that work. That's just fun. They go out there and they fuck it.

You know when comedians got to work? When they jokes don't. When they go out there and they tell some jokes and them shit ain't landed, it's like, woo-hoo-hoo. Time to cook. Get your hard hat, buddy. It's about to be a long night. And that's just what it is.

It's like I have not worked in a long time. I think God, God is good, man. We are just here doing what we love. Yeah, that's true. You know? Yeah. And if it ever feels like work, you probably shouldn't be doing it. Yeah.

I really feel like that. Yeah. If what you're doing feels like work, you probably shouldn't be doing it. There's aspects of everything that you do that are going to feel like work. Like sometimes you got to do things you don't want to do to do the things you do. Like I'm sure there's interviews, well, maybe not you at the point you are now. But like, I'm sure there's things that like, you're like, okay, I have to do this. But it affords me to do all these other things that I really love.

Not a single thing? Not no more. What you're saying right now, I purposely put a boundary on. I'm not doing nothing I don't want to do because I'm too aggie about it. Yeah. At my age, being married, having four kids, if I'm doing anything I don't want to do, I'm going to make everybody miserable. You know what I'm saying? Because by the time I got to get up in the morning, like, oh, fuck, I got to be here.

You know what I mean? To get dressed, the travel, the ghostware. If I don't want to be there, I already know I'm about to make everybody miserable. So I simply don't do things I don't want to do. What about when you were doing the promo run for the book? Love that. But none of that felt like worked like, oh, I got to go to another city. Listen, you know why I love it?

because I always say that you don't really get to see what your value is until you're out. Yeah. And when you're selling something, you know what I'm saying? Because you don't have a lot of face-to-face with your fans. That's right. Yeah. I don't do stand-up. It's a little different.

That's right. And even when you see ratings and stuff, that's one thing. Still, it's a number on a piece of paper. That's right. When you go to a, when you go into a bookstore selling out a bookstore, something, you get to see people, oh, my God. No, I see that. And this is my third book.

So you got people coming out there bringing the first, books and like that's a totally different totally that doesn't feel like work at all. I think you could love what you do and also do a lot of it to the point where it's like, okay, this is exhausting me, but I'm so grateful I get to do it and I love it. Yes. But that does that's different. Exhaustion doesn't mean that you don't want to do it. That's right.

It is just exhausting. So I think that's what I meant more like the next three months for me is going to be very intense. I'm ready to be exhausted. So I'm ready to be exhausted. For the holidays. Yeah. I look forward to that because once the holidays come. And then you get another break and you feel like you earned it because you worked your ass off for X amount of. I already got my vacation plan. Where are you going?

You know, I'm going to. Anguilla. Yeah. I've been going to Africa the last couple of years, last few years actually for New Year's. You had enough of them. I'm sick. It's just a lot. Sick of these motherfuckers. No, I love Africa. I love Zanzibar when we went, love Ghana. It's just the travel is crazy.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because it takes the day to get over there. Yeah. So it's just like this year, let's just do something cool. And then South Carolina and Gula, I'm good. You're going to go to South Carolina? Yeah, for Thanksgiving.

We all do that for Thanksgiving. Okay. And then Christmas, you're like winter break break. Christmas, yep. Christmas is home. Nothing like waking up to the kids, you know, opening up the presents and everything else after that. Yo, do you feel like if you stay home for Christmas, though, that you're very accessible to people?

To who? So like, oh, you just created these boundaries where you're like a psycho. Yeah. Who's a who? Maybe there's a time in your life that you were accessible where you didn't create the boundaries. Because sometimes I think like if you're at home during the holidays, sometimes it doesn't exactly feel like a break because now you have free time and now you have to do all the things that you wouldn't have time to do.

You have to, people are asking you to do certain things. You're like, well, I am here. I should do that. And then you don't have taken the break. How long have you known me? There had to be a time where you would do that. Where do I go? I really only go out.

I go where I want to go. And I'm around people I want to be around. You're not surprising me with it. It's just not happening. Yeah. I don't just go places. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Like, it's not happening. I guess what I'm understanding is like I understand going away for the holidays outside of just the excitement of traveling, but also because it truly allows you and your family to just be with each other. I love it. Whereas sometimes when you're at home, I don't know, You don't feel like this. I don't know if you guys ever feel like that.

Like every chore or errand that you didn't get to because you were busy during the year, all of a sudden you feel like, okay, I'm going to fix the door today. All right, let me get on the phone with the AC people. She handles all that. That's her thing. I'm constantly telling her to sit down. Yeah. Like that's her thing.

Like she loves to do that type of stuff. And now you've got a week. So you're like, okay, I might as well take advantage of this. But then you realize at the end of the week, like, did I just waste my time all? That was this weekend for me. Okay. And I felt like I was missing something. You all are crazy.

Yeah, because you should have been taken off the last week of summer. Everybody else, I'm seeing this guy. I don't even know where you were in Maffy. Right. Jesus Christ. And I'm like trying to measure screens from my windows. I also got trauma from growing up, like, you know, like, because when my father would come home and I'd be home, I'd always try to act like I was doing something. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Like, instead of just being a bum, so I would just jump up and act like I was doing something. Yeah. And so now it's like, you know, like. When a person asked me what I'm doing and I say nothing. You love it. You motherfucking right. I earned the right to not do a goddamn thing.

What are you doing nothing? Okay? I love laying on my couch, being with my kids doing absolutely positive. That's fine. That's going to be the hardest adjustment, I think, for the next few months. It's like during the summer, I pretty much just got to hang with my daughter, like, every day. Mm-hmm. And now it's back to...

You're going on the road, Craig? I'm going to be back on the road and, like... Shooting a special. Yeah. You're finishing a year? She is grown. No, that's awesome. But, like, it's great to just have, you know, you're with her all day.

She's just fucking smile and she's stoked every time she sees you. How many months does she know? Seven months. Already? Son, it's crazy. What the fuck? She started crawling. She said, da-da.

Oh, my God. But she goes, dad, dad, dad, dad. But I count that as dad-da. And definitely ain't mama. I don't think people realize how fast kids grow. And I don't know if it's because my young, like I got three. Like my two-year-old is about to be three, but she's been on it since she's been one. Like the way she talks, the way she communicates everything.

So it's just like, you're not going to want to miss that. You got five months. You know, once they hit one, you, it's over. That's the thing. It's over. I'm already now, I'm already now like, oh shit, we passed the stage where you just chilling my arms. Now you're excited to crawl. Oh. And every moment you're trying to see what's out there and looking at every different thing. Oh, when you see them coming to you? Oh, my God. Yeah. Oh. But remember

when they were just born and you hold them and they sleep? Yeah. Those days done. Done. Like that's, and that's, and that shit goes so fast. It's better now, though, because they, when they crawl to you, when you walk in the house and you know that this person knows your daddy. Oh, my God. Come on, man. The excitement. Come on, man. And then you see them do that for someone. I was like, hey, yo, what fuck you doing, man? Chill the fuck out. Chill with them smiles. What they're doing to?

Mommy and grandparents? No, you know, Mark held my daughter, and my daughter started crying, and everybody was trying to, like, feel bad for Mark, like, oh, it's okay. I said, good job. That's right. Any man puts their hands on you. You're motherfucking right. You cry immediately.

Especially dreamy-looking motherfuckers like Mark. Right? You know what I'm saying? Right? Damn, you farted when you started talking about Mark. That's flirting. That's crazy flirting. Hey, bro.

Hey, man. That's crazy. I had to make room. When your butt screams, when your butt screams, because you're talking about another man, that's insane. Don't even try to, the shit that you said is super gay earlier. What I say about gay? Mark walked in the room and he said,

damn, I think you lost some of your bubble or whatever. That's not what I said. What do you say? I said, Mark, yeah, I said, Mark, yeah, I ain't as fat as it used to be. Yeah. No, that is what you said, but that is. That's not gay? But before hello, it's kind of crazy.

Yeah, I did say hello. You did not say. You know, you did it. That was the first thing you said. Why are you working out your wrists while you tell you what is this? You can't even help it. You can't even. Listen, man, you got to find something to objectify.

Like, objectifying women is corny. You don't do it to women no more, but I can't stop. That's just corny. When you married and you old, you don't objectify a woman no more. You need the non-alcoholic beer of objectification. You know what I'm saying? You need the odules. That's right.

Hey, Mark, get them cheeks in there. Yo, Mark, what happened to your ass, bro? Hey, bro. It's like the blade serum. It don't hit just like blood, but it'll get me through the day. Get you through the fucking day, man. Wow. Yo, rest in peace, fat man, scoop.

RIP, man. So crazy, yo. It's actually really crazy. He died at 53 years old. 53 is very, very, very young. I don't know what the cause of death was, but, I mean, just watching. You're thinking of irony, yo. his last words was everybody makes them noise.

You're on the stage getting the crowd hype and doing what everybody knows you for and then you collapse and they have to do CPR on you. So I'm just going to assume it had to be something cardiovascular. That's just my assumption. Yeah. So rest and peace of fat man's school. The only thing I can tell you, man,

is go out there and motherfucking just... Take care of yourself. Bro, beat the doctor up. Like everything. Cardiovascular. Cardio, we talk a lot about mental health. We don't talk about cardiovascular health enough, bro. Not at all.

Heart disease is taking brothers out. Men, that's like you have the number one cause of death, right? Heart disease. I think it's never cause death in human beings. Yeah, in Americans. Yeah, in Americans, right? Yeah. It's like, come on, bro.

Take care of yourself, man. Go get your motherfucking heart check. Check your arteries. That's the thing, too. Like, I did the EKGs. I've done the stress test, the heart monitoring. all of that, but you gotta go, let them put that fucking die in you

that warms your body up and put you in that machine and then they can look all through your arteries. I don't know what the technical term for it. Dr. Puma calls it the dsaurin medical scan. Let them look at your heart, see what your arteries are, see where the calcification is if you have any, the plaque, all of that shit.

Go do that shit, man. Because this shit is out of control. The heart attacks and strokes that are happening nowadays, it's out of control, bro. That maxine, bro. This guy. You get maxicated. And then vaccinated or whatever, if what, you know, these things end up happen.

Were they happening before, Chris? Probably not. Chris, you cannot dispute that it probably has something. I don't know, a doctor alive nowadays that doesn't say, yes, there's something to the Maxine, bro. Your people's. It's either the Maxine. Your people's Mexican. It's either of, and we're talking like this to avoid getting flag.

is either the vaccine or David. One of the two. And your people created both. Thank you. But I don't know, Wilk Chamberlain, one of the greatest athletes of all time.

He fucked a million women. AIDS. AIDS. He died of heart disease. Probably got AIDS. No, he died of heart disease. Tremorous athlete even into his 50s. Who?

Will Chamberlain. Well, before the days of vaccine. You fucked a million women. You fuck a million women. You're going to die. Either your heart going to give out or. You know?

R. It's... R. You got the edge. Yeah. You might have got that. That's all I'm saying. He had sex with a lot of women.

It's a lot of women, Chris. I think it's diet is the big problem in America. You think it's just diet? Increasingly the world. But yeah, we... You don't think it's nothing to do with Max Neat. Well, it could be diet. Need to eat your veggies.

Damn. We didn't talk to... We don't know that we talk to people. To whom? Just to... Oh, so I ain't tell y'all about the DNC. Oh, wow. You bought a bussy and it made me just think of that.

It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to tell you something, man. I mean, it was a fun experience to go through. I just, it's like a pep rally for your team. That's literally all it is. Yeah. So R&C, DNC, there are pep rallies for your team. You go out there, you have a big pep rally,

and then you hope your team goes out there and wins the championship. I just don't think that's what politics should be. Yes. Wait, did we talk about this on, No, we talked about it at the show, yeah. Oh, at the show. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Politics should not be that way. Yeah, because the second your pot committed to a side, you can't be objective. You can't be objective. And I'm a Dallas Cowboy friend. Every year I say the same thing. We're going to the motherfucking Super Bowl. Can nobody tell me different? I can watch TV all day and you can tell me how bad,

my team sucks. I can look at all the moves we didn't make. I don't give a fuck. We're going to the Super Bowl. That's because I have fandom for my Dallas Cowboys. It's literally in my blood. My daddy was a Dallas Cowboys fan. My daddy tased the Marine on 9-11 at MetLife Stadium over his cowboy fandom, right? So it's in me. I can't feel, I shouldn't feel like that about like a political party. Yeah. Yeah. I should listen to both people. Yeah. Right? Whoever's running. I don't, President, Mayor, whatever it is. I should listen to everybody and whoever has the best ideas is who I vote for. And it should be like that every election.

I don't care what election it is. I don't care if it's a presidential election. I don't care if it's a local election. It should be like that with every election. You'll never be like that if you only are rooting for one team. Yeah, I agree. 100%. So it was a great experience, but it literally is a pepper alley.

And would you do it again? Would you... Yeah, as a media personality, definitely. Were you caught up in the energy there? Did it make you go, okay, I really want, you know, a Kamala to win? I wanted her to win regardless, because, I mean, I supported her in 2020.

Like, I've liked Kamala since... I had her own breakfast club in 2018. Like, I've always liked Holland. But it was a fun experience to be at as a media personality. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because it's like, I'm a person that sits around. watching CNN MSNBC all day.

Plus, in the history of Breakfast Club, I've interviewed most of these people anyway. You know what I'm saying? So it's just like... Absolutely. The only person I think I interviewed that I never had spoken with was Chuck Schumer. Oh, yeah, and then you spoke to Chuck.

Yeah, Chuck on. What was Chuck talking about? Gangster shit. Yeah, Chuck was talking about. Yeah, he was talking about the Supreme Court. There's all the stipulations that need to be put on a Supreme Court. They're no longer a legitimate institution. You know, the right wing, these very, very,

rich, greedy people who didn't want to pay any taxes, who didn't want the government to do any, you know, they said, I built my company with my own hands, although half of them inherited it. Yeah. How dare your government tell me how I had to treat my workers, my customers, or the land and air and water that I own. That's what they did. And they realized Charlemagne that they couldn't get this done even when they controlled the elected branches of government, House Senate, because there was, and president, because it was so far to the effing right.

so far to the right. And so they tried to take over the courts. We have an obligation to try and stop them. The Supreme Court is a morass. Now, who would have thought of this? The ethics of that court. Yeah. So these rich people are paying for cars, for trips. At the same time, they're paying somebody to, some law firm to go to a lawyer and make their case. That is outrageous. And I'll tell you who we should blame, among others, the Chief Justice John Roberts, who One said he's calling balls and strikes. He could stop this with the flick of his pen. Where the hell is he?

What? And then when I called him a cow, when I said, you know, I said something about that. That's the cowardice of the Democrats. He goes, hey, Charlamen. I'm from Brooklyn. You should slap the shit out of him, right? Fuck that guy to do that.

Fastest way to get a fed charge. Yeah. You slap somebody like Chuck Schumer at the deal. You know, that's federal. That's federal. What do you mean? If you do something like that, it's DNC? Yeah.

That's federal. Why? Because I guess when they do those presidential elections and stuff like that, and it's all of that secret service and everything around, like now you're on federal grounds. Like, it's not no longer. So it's assaulting a federal officer? No, you just would catch a charge.

Whatever your charge would be would be a federal charge doing it there. Even if I got into a fight with somebody in the crowd. Oh, really? Oh, yeah, yeah, 100%. Absolutely. So you can't attack a senator? I don't think you should ever attack a saying. senator, okay? Or a non-sitting senator. Yeah. But you definitely shouldn't do it at the DNC.

Got it. Got it. So if you were going to do it, don't do it that day. Don't do it to goddamn DNC. You can avoid the charges. Got it. Shout out to Jay Lowe. She back in the streets. Did you see that? That picture was crazy. Click on the pic. The picture was crazy. We don't have Taylor here, so we don't have the memes of the week. We have Chris doing Taylor's job here. Chris, the podfather, the original pod father. The original pod father. Let's go next. I didn't feel Chris about everybody calling himself the podfather now when you was getting called to power father 20 years ago. I think Bill Simmons was the first guy to get it, to be fair. Really?

Nah, no, no, no, no. Bill was the parfather before you? No, no, no. Really? I don't know. Next shot. I want to see the one we all thinking about it. J-Lo bad, yo.

God bless J-Lo. There you go. Why is that shit covered? Because you got to do that on Instagram nowadays. Oh, fucking egg. I can't show the cheeks no more. I saw her out in Hantonson's. You did?

Yeah. By herself? I saw Jiamese too. In the Hampton? Yeah. Who was J-Lo with, though? Ben wants to know. She was just bike riding with some dude.

Really? But like the guy looked like security. I don't know how to say it. Oh, got you, got you, got you. You need security in the Hamas? I guess you're J-Lo, right? No, but, you know, they got that shit.

Do you think that Ben Affleck saw that picture and got jealous? No, because he knew. He had that shit in the 20s. He's like, yo, that shit used to be all right. You know, like, he had the best version of it. He had the now version. Like, oh. Oh, shit.

J-Lo living her best life. But who's she trying to trap now? Why is she doing this? What's the point of all this? It's Instagram. You know what I'm saying? But she's just trying to get over it? I don't even know if she cares.

I just think it was a photo dump. I mean, there's no question that Ben is going to take down something better, though. J-Lo is bad. I don't know if you get. I don't know. What do you mean you don't know? Who can Ben get? Ben, you don't even know what color that shit is.

Who, J-Lo? Yeah. What you mean? Man, shut up. You don't know how color that you cheated on it. J-Lo is, listen, J-Lo's still J-Lo, bro. Don't get it messed up, with all the respect to J-Lo, but you don't know what that shit is.

I don't know what that means. I don't want to know what it means. Me neither. I don't know what that shit is neither. I don't know it neither. I'm nervous you, man. Every time I see Ben Affleck, and this is coming from a straight man place.

I just want y'all to know this is coming from a straight man place, right? Mm-hmm. You know why he looks so stressed? Because he's been dating a Latina twice. He don't got enough. Enough. Not, not. No, he don't got enough.

Charlam, man. You haven't dated a Latina. Go look at that picture where he got this cigar and his cigarette in his hand. He's like, he's thinking about, I just don't have enough. No, he's thinking, why did I get back on the bike? It's too much for him. No. It's too much for him.

No. It's too much period, man. No, no, no. It's too much period. It's too much period. It's too much period. It's not time number of sentence. Yeah, but don't period.

Be a fucking man, Ben. Be a man, Ben. You can't handle. Be a fucking man. He's not built for Latina. What is he? Puerto Rican now? Puerto Rican.

He's not built for that. That's what I'm telling you. 50-year-old pre-menopausal, post-menopausal Latina. J-Lo won it all the time when she wanted. Oh, no. Okay. That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, I've been talking about two separate things, but I'm walking out. Oh, she's horny. She's horny. Yes. Oh, that might be true. Ben don't have enough. Let me tell you something.

I know right now. I don't. Damn. I don't have enough for that. She needs it all the time like that? No. She's OG. I can look at Ben and tell like Ben and it's like, oh, my God.

She wants more dick. Yes. He probably started smoking cigarettes just to get a break. I'm telling you, he'd do fucking dare devil too before he fucking. Before he go back and try jailor again. How many times of day you think she wanted? You think it's multiple times a day? Bro, look at the pictures.

You think it's multiple. Hold on, man. Start at the beginning. Go back to the beginning. Go back to the beginning. Let's break this down. So y'all kept looking at the dunk. But no, go back to the first one.

That's the first one? No, go back. What's the first one? Go back. Okay. This right here, come on, man. She's looking at you like, oh, it was a summer. You know what I mean?

That's the first one, letting you know, oh, it was a summer. Because I'm with somebody that's giving it to me the way I wanted to be given to. All right? Ben. Now look at the next one. Look at the next one. No, no, no, no. You're going too fast. Chris, you're trying to get to the dump too fast. Go back to the second one. Go back to the written one. Right there. Everything is unfolding in divine order.

Fuck Ben. Fuck boy Ben. That's what that is. Yes. Fuck boy. Oh, no. Okay. Yeah, I found somebody that can do it the way I want it to be done. No. Boom. Now you get the ass shot. No. You're not looking at the whole storyline, right? Now you're looking at the ass shot. All right? Go to the next one, Chris. she's in bloom and unbothered out of reaching at peace in bloom.

What is in bloom mean? Super right. Oh no. Come on, man. Flower open. All right. Unbothered, out of reaching at peace. You can't even get next to me, Ben.

Now look at me. All beautiful, ready to have a nice dinner. You know what I do after dinner, right, Ben. What? What? Right Ben. What? Yeah.

Go to the next one. Now look at that. Ha ha ha! After Sex Glow. You think that's after. after sex. After sex, no. You think that's right after sex?

Looking at you. She got the nice little demure smile. Yeah, she does. When she was like, Ben, Oh my God, what's the next pick? I know you don't have enough. Ooh. And her shirt says dream.

What does that mean? That means you're going to always dream about me, Ben, and you're going to dream about how you could never please me the way I needed to be pleased. Oh, that's terrible. Come on, man. Then the ice cream lick? Nah.

Come on, bro. The ice cream, fuck you. No. Come on, man. Ben don't stand a fucking chance, yo. What's Ben posting? Ben don't even got Instagram. Ben can't even stay in to be on IG while Jenny from the block is out here still looking hot. Yeah. Okay. Jesus Christ. That's all. All right. That's all it is. Ben just back. Respect, man. But Ben, I always said, Ben, no, Ben, no, been on, he never deserved J-Lo. That's, that's rude. No, no, no, no. Now, I always felt like that. That's a little hate right.

I'm not eight. You're being a little rude right there. No, no, no. He got it twice. If you ruined two superheroes? Yeah. Dead Devil and Batman. No, he killed Batman.

No, he was horrible. He was horrible. He was probably the worst Batman ever. He was probably the worst Batman ever. There's no way. Easily. The worst? Worst Batman ever.

Worse than Val Kilmer? Val Kilmer? Bail Kimmer with Batman? See, y'all don't even know all the Batman. I don't remember about Batman. You're saying she was super confidence. Come on, bro. It's the fucking pie.

What is the point of having a pod? If you don't say shit, you don't know nothing about. With extra confidence. That's what potting is about. Okay? Yeah, you're right. You're right. My bad.

Boosie compares men painting their nails. Damn. What's this about, Chris? Al just catches strays everywhere. I just catches sprays everywhere. Boossey says if a man is painting his nails is equal to a man wearing a thong of his ass. Real talk.

Get it sexy. Get it sexy. Alex? I wouldn't trade places with Boosie, so I'm fine with him, whatever he said. Whoa. I just, you know, discern some of the decisions he has made. I wouldn't have made those same decisions. And so if he feels that way about men who paint their nails, he's fine to have those

opinions. That was a gay answer, Alex. Yeah, you got a better. You need a better retort. I ain't shooting You're not But what does that mean? What do you

How did that I'm Jailoh? I'm bothered No Those pictures Definitely stream bothered From Jail's yeah Yeah

Yeah Yeah she's very bothered She's very bothered So Look at eyes Do you think a man Painting his nails Is equal to a man

wearing a thong Up his ass Would you ever wear a thong If it looked better With your outfit Like if it No I'm being serious

Like if you were wearing tight pants And you didn't want to show the panty lines. Would you wear a thong? Don't just, don't knock it. The panty lines, too. Don't knock it. Because there's probably all the time you probably never thought you'd be painting your nails either.

That is very. You know what I'm saying? So let's say you, like, let's say skinny yoga pants for men become popular. It's not the craziest thing. Okay. And you could wear your regular boxers and have the line right here in your thigh. He's an asshole. What?

That's a visual is funny and shit. The boxes with the thong look. Here you go again, thinking about it. I don't know. Just thinking about it, no, stop. Would you wear the thong, Alex? No, I wouldn't wear the thong. Why not?

I wouldn't wear the thong. I don't believe you. So if you were in Spain, all right? Yeah. You're all on the beach. Yeah. It's a nudist quality, but you don't want to get nude. I'd rather be nude than wear a thong.

So what they give you to wear covers the front, but it's the thong in the back cheeks out. No. I'd rather have my teeth. dick out there. Nobody can see you. Nobody can see you. Nobody can see you. No cameras allowed.

No tan line. No nothing. Fuck you. Five. No camera allowed. No nothing. Yes, just you. In the comfort.

And your woman. And your lady. And your girls like, yo, put this on. Yeah. For me, she goes, let's both with thorns. Nah, I'm good.

I don't believe you. I'm good. Just for the comfort of your own soul. I think what do y'all have a thong on right now? The way you advocate for it. No, we just, listen, I'm advocating to you because you got to bring in nails. I'm just, because you haven't just proved. Why you're not going to prove?

Why you're not going to prove? If you want to see me naked, just say it out. If you got a dog, I'm just, no show. You haven't been able to disprove Bousie's theory, though. He said it's equal to. Do you think a man painting his nails is equal to having a thong? I don't think it's equal because it's like if you're doing the nail art is because it's like self-expression. Nobody's going to see the thong.

So why am I doing that? They can see the thong if you want them to. Yeah, just poke it out. Little sad. Over the heads. Well, like the fucking low-rise jeans. See the whale tail?

Yeah. Oh, I'm not doing it. What's the whale tail? That's what they called it back of the day. What? When girls wore low-rise jeans and you saw the little thorn come out. Really? I like that for you, Alex.

I like a whale tail. I like a whale tail. I think a whale tail would look good on you, man. What if, what if like, okay, just hypothetical you're on the beach, okay? We've got another topic. No. I want you to defend people with painted nails. This is your time.

You have painted nails. But I said it already. Like the nail art is self-expression. The thong is like, nah, you just like to dress like a woman. But that's for you. I don't like to dress like a woman. Would you get the thong painted on your nails? Would you get whale tails on your nails?

Yeah. Good, good. Oh, if it look fire, yeah. That's fire. Whale tails on the nails? If the art look fire, yeah. I like that. Okay.

I was at a Scottish wedding and I was wearing. a kilt and this is not going to help my I saw the picture I saw you post it. But I had a long skirt as in Scottish weddings do and then my nail art matched my guilt. I always felt like if you're going to wear a kilt, you got to let the ball show a little bit.

Oh, I was free ball. I was free ball, yeah. Really? Yeah. And then one of these white boys tried to lift my shit up. And? Did you show him that thing? No, I mean, he might have saw him, but. You might as well wait a thore. If you was going to tell that story. No, but then he's not going to see nothing.

If you were going to tell him. a story about having no drawers on with a kilt and a white boy lifting your shit up you might as well just just wear the thaw, bro. That he's not going to have a show. Oh my God. Collegreen secret ingredient.

What is this, Chris? Kamala shares her. Kamala. God. Kamala shares her secret ingredient for when she makes college turned. No. Yeah, for four years she was Kamala.

Everybody kind of come on for four years. Can I hear this? Let's hear this. Let's hear this. Let's hear what she said. I have a friend who had a Christmas party, Christmas Eve, every year, and she asked me to make the greens for a party every year. And I am not lying to you that I would make so many greens that I'd need to wash them in the bathtub. I'm telling you the truth. So how do you make your greens?

Do you put turkey in them? Bacon. Nice. My grandma needs to put bacon. She's put vinegar. I put white vinegar. I do it. So I start with, I slice up my garlic.

But first I fry, chop up the bacon and get all that fat going. Then I put garlic. Some chili peppers. Yes. And then a lot of water and a little chicken stock. And I let it go for a while before I put the greens in. And then, right, so you get that going and all that flavor. And then I put the greens in first.

put the ingredients in for a couple hours. Let me tell you something about America, man. America is never as bad as people make it out to me. And the reason I say America is never as bad as people make it out to me, because if that's news, like if that is news,

like we might be doing pretty damn good out here, you know? Agreed. Because that should not be a topic of discussion. Like, why is that a headline? Like, I, well, because I think the the argument or the trend is, like, is she black?

Or they're trying to prove she's black. So now they have her making collard greens. Here's the thing. And the recipe was... It was mid? You see how excited that dude got when she started describing it? Yeah, I didn't admit about it. What was meant about it?

I make mine with bacon. He goes, yeah. I like mine with turkey. Yeah, that's usually you put, like, turkey bones and... No, no, no, no. That's what people who don't eat pork do. People that eat pork, it's baking the fuck up. I don't know, my grandmother from Atlanta.

We ate a lot of pork, but it was always turkey neck. Why is this a thing? This feels like Hillary with the hot sauce again. Why is this a thing? People don't eat hot sauce. People don't use hot sauce. People don't eat collard greens. Yeah, I hear what you're saying.

I'm like, what's the point? I just don't, I just don't get why this is a thing. Yeah. Why is this a point of debate? Well, I think that there are definitely people targeting her and trying to make her awkward and uncomfortable and leaning into that. And she has awkward and uncomfortable moments, and they're trying to use that to discredit her as a candidate for president. I think awkward and uncomfortable is fine.

I think the problem with politicians for years is they've all tried to be too perfect. And it's impossible to be that nowadays in 2024. The reason it's impossible to be that because the cameras are always on. Who is the person? I'm not even just talking about politician. Who is the person that always looks cool in this era? Barack Get the fuck out of here

Who? Barack No Jay Z looks funny On a jet ski Yeah On a jet ski yeah Who?

Maybe it might be Barack. Yeah, he's never comfortable. He's super comfortable with it. But you never see Barack in a real moment, though. Yeah, you think it's all that. You don't see Barack doing nothing real ever. Yeah, it's all many facts. When do you ever see Barack Obama doing anything real?

The only reason Jay-Z looks uncomfortable is because we watch him doing things with his kids. Or he's on vacation with the helmet on and the, the life vest while he's jet skiing or jumping in the pool with Beyonce. He's being a dad. Like, you know, like, we don't see Barack in real moments. When the last time, when did you ever see Barack doing something real? He shot the jumper when he left the court. Even that was fake. I don't believe that.

That was that. Yeah, you don't. You don't. I hear what you're saying. It's uncurated stuff. I don't believe it. And also, we make fun of Jay-Z from wearing a helmet on a jet ski or whatever. But it's like, you work your entire life to become this successful person.

And then you get thrown it all away in some fucking jet ski accident. Like, I'm wearing a, I'm wearing a, I'm wearing a, a helmet. I'm wearing shoulder pads. I'm doing all the shit. Fuck that. I don't see the problem. But that's my point. Who looks cool in 2024?

There's nothing cool about being safe. And I think a lot of times politicians are trying to be safe. You know? And I think like, I think she's going into this. At least it seems is like, you know, the unveiling of her, the media at least made it feel like, oh my God, it's hers to lose. And then they didn't let her talk.

for X amount of days, and then she did that interview with Waltz. Dana Bash. Yeah. And it wasn't received in the best life. It was regular. And by the way, it's- But I don't want someone regular to be present. But here the thing, if she had done more interviews,

that interview wouldn't even be a problem. There was nothing wrong with that interview. It's just the fact that you haven't seen her do interviews for people, which is also weird, right? And this is why I say we grade people on a curve, and there's definitely a double standard between Trump and everybody else. because she did the one thing that nobody wanted to do. After Joe Biden stunk up the debate,

she was on the front lines on everybody's show that night being clean up woman and everybody gave her the utmost props. Are you trying to tell me if that person right there is afraid of doing interviews? I don't know if she is, but I think that her handlers are like, hey, you're in the lead. Doing an interview can only hurt you.

This has never been your strong suit. It's never been a thing that made you popular. But why do people say that's not her strong suit, though? I've got three great interviews with her. Yeah, but I don't think those interviews made people go, I want her to be president. Like, if they did, she would have got a vote, a delegate vote. Well, no, I'll take it back.

2018 was the first time we interviewed her. God, yeah. She wasn't running in. In 2020, she ran. And then by the time I interviewed her again in 2020, 2020, she was VP. What I'm noticing now is those interviews in particular is what everybody is using.

Like, to find out what she is about. Like, I'm watching all of these different web pages and blog sites and the Dowd That's Dis and all of that. Like those, they're taking bits and pieces of those interviews and they're pushing nose out.

That's why I confidently say I feel like we, over the last four or five years, breakfast club probably got the best interviews with the vice president. Yeah. You know, before she was even vice president. Yeah. So today, I don't even fuck we were talking about.

What are you talking about? I don't know. We were talking about something before that. No, no, it was, oh, yeah, yeah, why she hasn't done it. interviews. Oh, yeah. I don't think, listen, I think that when you get put in the position that she was put in, right? Meaning that Joe Biden decides he wants to step down. Well, he finally listened when they pushed him out. Can we just acknowledge they pushed him out?

Who doesn't know that? Okay. Everybody's like, he's the bravest guy in the world to step down. He didn't even know he stepped down. They wrote a fucking letter. They signed that shit for him. He found out on Twitter like the rest of us. Nobody in the history of the world has ever stepped down through an open letter when video and Zoom and TV exists. That was fly, though. The fact he stepped down on Twitter, on a Sunday, that was the youngest shit he did in 50 years.

He ain't do it. That's why. He was at the beach in Delaware. They walked his ass out to the beach where he had no Wi-Fi, and they fucking sent a resignation letter out there, and then the next day, Kamala is going to be president. And I think that's the thing that, like, I think that's the thing that I imagine conservatives get concerned with where they're like, oh, wow, Democrats are saying Trump is the end of democracy, yet an effective coup was staged on the Democrats side for president. Coup is maybe like a word that's a little bit too radioactive.

But I think people are forgetting she was the vice president. So let's just say, God forbid Joe Biden passed away. Let's just say Joe Biden got so sick that he couldn't do it anymore. who would be the president? Sure, but it wasn't up to him, meaning his choice was removed from him, which is essentially what a coup is. Now, a coup is a big word. It's about what you can prove. What did Dengel stay in training day? It's not what you know. It's what you can prove. It's not about what you know. It's about what you can prove. So you're saying that Kamal's a crooked cop? No, I'm saying that Joe Biden stepped down. That's what?

we know. Being that he stepped down, the vice president has to step up. How is that not democracy? How is that that's the way democracy works? Fuck your conspiracy theories and what y'all, what you want to believe, what we know is the vice president, the president put in his resignation letter and his second income now I know why like white people didn't believe black people and black people said the cops are racist for so long. Why? Because there's just no video of it. So they were like, that's what we can prove. Well, yeah, but, yeah, but, you know, But then Ronnie King can't. Exactly.

And then you saw it. Like, oh, shit. They were like, yeah, he must have done something real bad. That's the point. But that's the point. How fast was he going smoking that weed? My whole point is she's the vice president. That's what happens with the vice president.

That's the vice president's job. We know that's what happens. But whatever, that's not we're debating. The coup thing is like, all right, let's look at it from the opposite way. He steps down. And I do believe he stepped down. I think he stepped down under a ton of pressure. but I think

A lot of pressure Made the choice. It's a lot of pressure. A lot of pressure. A lot of pressure, Chris. But we've seen other people facing pressure and not step down, so I give him credit for that.

But okay, let's say he steps down and they bypass her and they go straight to some sort of open competition at the debate. That's more of a cool. Right. Because then the narrative coming would immediately be,

they skipped over the person and the grateful job. Yeah. They cut her out. No, that's not true at all. I think so. No, no, that is not true at all. How is it not true?

Being the vice president doesn't automatically make you the nominee. Being the vice president makes you the president. Oh, well, it makes you the nominee is when the delegates vote for you. Exactly. They voted for her. When? At the convention. That's what you think of little jobs after for.

No, no. They voted for her when there was nobody else to vote for it. No, that's not true. Who else is not about it? They're going to recommend that anybody they wanted to, which I didn't know until I had the convention. Those delegates are supposed to represent our votes. And we were stripped the right, the ability to choose a person to be our representative.

The delegates could have chosen anybody they wanted. But the delegates did not have to vote for her. But the delegates could have chosen, but the people didn't get a chance to do. But those are the people. No, no, no. The delegates are supposed to represent our choice. I don't know about that. But then you want to, of the whole idea of representative.

You want to strip down the entire system then. Because no matter how it's sliced, voters, individual voters still in this system vote for delegates and then it's up for the delegates to disperse their votes however you want. Now, it usually happens more one-to-one. It's up to the delegates to represent our choice. Let me see. But the one thing is like no one else ran or no one else said,

hey, I would like to. Nobody challenged her. I mean, you know, RFK tried to, but they did everything in their power and all that that happened. Thank God. Are y'all's your mind? Y'all got to stop with the RK. I entertained the RFCA, but that motherfucker is bad shit crazy.

Why? What's he doing? It's up Martha Moxley. That's all you got to do. And I don't respect people like RFC. You don't know. Who's that? 15-year-old girl murdered in the mid-70s in Greenwich, Connecticut.

Almost 99.9% by RFK Jr.'s cousin. Took forever for them to convict the guy. He finally went to jail 20 years afterwards. And RFK was the one who spirited this guy getting out. I mean, it's really bad. This is good. Listen, in the U.S. political system, delegates at the DNC could theoretically have chosen a different candidate for vice president and Kamala Harris, which several factors made this highly unlikely. The first one is the role of the presidential nominee.

Traditionally, the VP candidate is selected by the presidential nominee. In this case, Joe Biden during the 2020 election, once Biden chose Congress. Kamala Harris as his running mate, the convention delegates were expected to endorse that choice, although delegates technically have the power to vote for a different candidate in modern political practice, they most always follow the presidential nominees lead. Okay. Correct me if I'm wrong, right? Let's say, for example, Biden was just going to be a one-term president. He had mentioned this earlier. He should have done that. Which he should have done. What then would have done is the party would have held an open primary

where Kamala could have run and other people could also run. They compete for our vote. We choose them in a primary system. And then those delegates represent our choices. That's how it should have happened. The fact that it didn't happen like that, you can at least empathize and understand with the conservatives when they go, hey, you have stripped down the democratic process

while you're saying that Trump is a tyrant, a fascist, and is going to be the end of democracy. You can at least empathize with that position? No. No, just because of what is it said? Like, while delegates had the theoretical ability to choose a different candidate, the combination of party norms, the selection process, and the desire for unity made Kamala Harris the clear and expected choice for vice president in 2020.

But that's not what I'm saying. I can empathize with what you said, but also if Biden would have said, hey, I'm only running for one term. And then I put all my support for Kamala, both parties, they usually follow suit. And the same way what happened just now, no one else would have put their name in the hat and we would have had the same situation.

I'll tell you, it's hard for me to empathize with anybody on the right talking about democracy when Donald Trump constantly wipes his ass with the Constitution. He literally said on Sunday morning, do you have the clip track? He literally said, mind you, he just got re-indicted last week for attempting to overthrow the results of an election.

And when asked the baby, on Fox News on Sunday, he said he had every right to interfere with the election. I know how y'all feel about your boy, Trump. It ain't funny no more at this point. Now he's looking like the old man in the club. Now it's like... Hold on, let me hear that. That's far. Not your boy.

I don't think, I really believe he doesn't want to run no more. You cannot be saying shit like this if you really want to win. He says whatever he was. No, it's different now. It ain't like it used to be, bro. It ain't slight... Well, the time it's slaps. Now I was just like, what the fuck is he talking about?

Whoever heard you get indicted for interfering with a presidential election where you have every right to do it, you get indicted, and your poll numbers go up. When people get indicted, you poll numbers go down. Bruh, you can hear you, bro. Come on, come, come on, come on. We can hear you. That was great. We can hear you.

You just got re-indicted last week. No, what he's saying is the thing that they're accusing him. of he's allowed to do. What, interfere with an election? I guess what he did. Overthroat results of an election? Right to do it. That's illegal.

He doesn't know. What are you talking about? That's how I interpret it. It's illegal, George. But he can do no wrong to me. He's the Lord and Savior, Jesus Trump. So there's nothing he can do this wrong. Well, I can tell you what he's doing wrong.

He's not trying to win this election. I really think Trump wants out, Or he- Trump wants Republicans to do him the way the Democrats did Joe Biden. Please put me out of my misery. What about this theory? That he doesn't want to out be out. He wants to win, but he's trying to signal to the powers that be that he's willing to play

ball. Cut me a little deal. Just tell me out. I'm not going to jail. No, no, no. He still wants to win, but he's going, hey guys, I just won't let you know. I'm not draining the swamp. I'm cool to run the country how you guys run it.

I know you guys usually pick both parties, the Republican and Democrat, and let the American people have a pretend election where they think they decide. And I'm the outsider, and I fuck shit up, and I scared everybody and made you guys feel like you weren't going to make billions of dollars

sucking on the teeth of the American government. I just want to let you guys know. You tried to kill me. My bad. I'm not talking shit no more. That's what he was from day one. Say again? That's always been who he's been.

No, he's been, I'm going to drain the swim. Nah, that was a bunch of talk. That was 2016 talk. He is the swamp. Yeah, that was 2016 talk. Okay, okay. This is why political discourse is so difficult. Not here.

It's funny here. My point is, my point is I'm addressing the energy shift to Charlemagne feels that I've felt that I think that all of us have fell from him. And I wonder if that energy ship where he's specifically saying things like, you know, we could have done horrible things to Hillary Clinton but we chose not to.

That doesn't look right. Can't do that. That's not the energy shift though. The energy shift is, he's really saying shit that don't even make. sense at this point. Like that right there is an admission of guilt. You just got re-indicted a week prior, literally for overthrowing the results of an election. In fact that he's like complimenting this Secret Service nonstop after they let him someone shoot him. Like to me,

that is, he's echoing the sentiments, hey, I'm on your team now. I'm not going to shake shit up. Let me go win this and you guys can keep on making money. All you don't know who the enemy is. All you don't know who the enemy is. You don't know who's trying to get you. So you're like, I got to be nice to everybody. I'm playing ball. And also, there isn't one enemy. Everybody acts like, oh, only the CIA does this. It's a bunch of different entities that all make money off of America.

And they need certain people in office to keep on making money. It's not that crazy. I think one reason I think it's pretty much. Another reason I think he wants to step down. He don't have this. If you watch Fox News, most of these Republicans are challenging. Yeah. They're like, bro, cut out dumb shit.

shit. It's literally like, it's act normal, bro. You know what I'm saying? Just talk about fucking policy. All this other shit you're doing is fucking us up. Just act normal. The fact that they're calling him out like that and not trying to act like what he's doing is normal lets me know it's over. Now, now, now, now, now, you still got to go out there and vote in November. I don't know who's going to. I really don't know who's going to win in November. If you'd ask me, you know, four or five months ago could Biden win? I would have said absolutely not. If you say with the vice president, I say, I don't know. I hope so.

You know what I'm saying? I don't. It's like the polls even show that right now. It's 50-50. Some polls got her up. Some polls got it tied. I don't know. That's all, that's the best case scenario for November.

I think she's got to avoid that debate. I think she should do. You know who should avoid the debate? Who? Trump. You're crazy. He can't win. If she, whenever she talks, her poll numbers go down.

It's not true? No, no, sorry. Whenever she talks in an unscripted environment, the poll numbers got out. When she gave that speech at the DNC, I thought it was good. I thought she did a good job with that speech. Great, I wouldn't say. Barack Obama gave him. She went up four points after the CNN interview.

Yeah, yeah, but four points on what polls? The national pool and in the conservative poll. Look it up. For me, the trend of Kamala, right after the interview came out with Waltz had peaked and has already started to come down. You never tell you why Shorts is the best. Yeah. He said for me. So even if you come at him with his iron, this is me. That's all I believe.

Okay. I was talking to that. He said for me. I was talking to. Are we on a podcast or not? Are we on a podcast or not? Absolutely. Absolutely.

I was actually talking to the boys about this on Flagrant, but I've been thinking about this a lot. Okay. You know how like everybody's calling for like the government to censor social media and there's so many fucked up things happening on X or Instagram or Facebook and the government to come in and censor social media. And like, it kind of has happened, but then it kind of hasn't happened. And it's a weird, like a morphist thing where you don't even know what the decisions are. I think that it is in the government, if the government wants control, right?

Let's just assume they do want control. Just go with me there. It is in the best interest of the government not to censor social media, but to be able to have certain control of it. For example. No, no, no, no, no, no, not even regulation. This is a beautiful thing about it. back in the day in order to like get charlemagne to god to like you know what people always accuse you oh you're a dnc shill somebody from the government came to charlemagne and they threatened him

and his family so he goes and says this shit right that's what you had to do back in the day why would they think i would keep that to myself exactly yeah but it doesn't matter a fire episode of brilliant any ever ever okay so i got something even better i got something even better back in the day they would have to do that to me back in the day they'd have to do that to i mean we're making ourselves really importantly you are way more involved in this but it doesn't matter they would have to do that. They'd have to leverage something over you. They'd be like, hey, we have you stealing this information right here.

We're going to put it out unless you are bidding. Exactly. That was the Hoover plan. That was exactly, yes. And this has been happening for years. So you have to have some leverage over somebody and then tell them something that they don't really believe. And then they're going to go tell their constituents, they're going to tell the world that even though they don't believe it so that they don't lose their career, their well-being, their life. That was back in the day.

Right. Now with social media, right? Think about it. You could curate somebody's opinion by curating their timeline. 100%. Okay. So Charlemagne the guy,

you are this liberal guy, right? And everybody's like, you're a DNC. Schill. You're the person that's saying and echoing all their sentiments. Mm-hmm. Okay? Maybe that's because

the powers that be have made sure your entire feed is just Trump is an enemy of the state. Trump is going to do the 2025 project or whatever it is. Trump is going to do us. Maybe nobody has leverage over you. Maybe they have curated all the information that you are digesting to convince you of this theory position

and now you are authentically sharing that with the world. If I'm a government, one, I want TikTok out of here because I can't do that on TikTok. talk. China could do that. China could feed me all the shit that they want me to say on this podcast. They could feed you all the shit or somebody could feed you all the shit that they want you to say. But you are authentically saying it's brainwashing. It's almost like what the education process was for kids. The government has to come together and be like, hey, what's history? What's World War I? What's World War I? More or less, what happened with Christopher Columbus?

Let's give it all to them and they're going to digest it and that's what kids are going to think the world is. I think you're absolutely right. Isn't that crazy? No, you're absolutely right. More likely for individuals than a celebrity or an influencer. Well, listen, Shultz is absolutely right. For me, I would definitely go to people with huge platforms, a lot of influence, and then fill their feed with whatever I wanted them to think. If I wanted them to be scared of immigration,

I would show them nonstop immigrants stabbing people, taking over shit. So then all of a sudden, you go on a pot or you go on the radio, not saying you're doing this, but you go on your platforms and you go, man, this immigration shit is wild. Did you see all these videos? Shultz is right. it works the other way too. Keep gone.

Meaning that all of these QAnon people, these far right people, they get fed conspiracy theories about the other side. That's what's happening on both sides. Okay, now we have to extrapolate even more. If you're a foreign country, you're an enemy of the United States of America.

Absolutely. And think about it. You don't even, just let me put this out. I'm talking as if there's like some high level enterprise that is working cahoots with meta to do this, right? I could do this with paid ads.

I could put paid ads behind a fucking anti-immigration thing and make sure you see it and you see it and you see it. So, like, on the most basic level, we can get anybody see anything we want. You're crazy to think Russia's not doing that. They are. They are. That's what's what I know.

I know people who work in sciops. Straight up. I know people who work in psychological operations for the government. And they tell me all the time, Not only does America do it, Russia does it, China does it, North Korea. So everybody does it. Here is my question. If we know that they are doing it and we can't find a way to restrict it, because they're not doing it from Russia, they're smart, they have people here that are doing it.

Allowing any piece of information out there is allowing China or Russia to sow division within our country. That's why they want regulation. Under the protection of free speech was what I'm trying to say is it's not actually free speech. It is espionage. But that's the thing with the Mark Zuckerberg thing. And that's what the piece, that is the piece that I don't think that they put out there. When the Biden administration went to Mark Zuckerberg and said, hey, there's a lot of things

being put on your platform. That's not true. Yeah. They didn't tell him to censor it. They just said, well, he said they told him to censor it. But they still left it up to him. Yeah. So they just told him like, hey, there's a lot of fucked up shit on the,

platform, whatever, whatever, you should try to regulate this in some way, shape, of form. I think the piece that they didn't tell us, they knew it was foreign countries. They knew it was other countries that's putting out that information. I bet you they told Mark that, though. I said, why wouldn't you if you were Russia or China? You absolutely should. I'm sure we're doing that there, but actually we can't because they restrict our social media.

There's none of our social media in Russia, none of our social media in China. So the way the CIA used to do it before social media, was through movies and entertainment. Still do that. It's not as effective. It's not as effective. Real life is way more poppins. Real life's way more scary.

And all you have to do is take the videos that exemplify the positions you want the people to feel and absorb and take and then you boost the fuck out of them and we already know that these platforms can boost. So to me it's like social media is this tool that can be used against us.

As much as I love social media, how can we protect for it? What the fuck? Yeah. So where have you been? No, no. What I'm saying is, sorry, sorry real quick. I knew that this was happening on a macro level, right? Like I knew that like Russia was using it for, what's it called influence, for election influence, et cetera.

I knew that's up. What I didn't realize is that instead of letting it happen on a macro level, if you targeted specific individual people, let's say they target it. And I'm over. Oh, who? Stop, stop, stop. Yeah. What you're saying is absolutely right. But look at it on this way, too.

Don't just target people to spread the information. Target one or two people to spread information about. I don't know if you saw that article. Remember that article that came out in NBC News? Chris, where they were talking about how certain black celebrities were being targeted by people on YouTube. Because if you do that, right, imagine a hundred different YouTube pages talking about one person. It feels like news. It feels like news and it feels like the truth.

That's actually... Now I'm gonna... There's a sci-op term for what you're describing. Yeah. I'll get the train ran on you by YouTube. No, it's called the horseshoe where you picture a horseshoe, right? You do equal points across from each other. And you start a celebrity off at one position.

Now, if they just went to the opposite end, it would be too quick. It would be too obvious. You got to take them on the table. You go slowly over the course of several months around this way and then you wind up at the opposite pole. And it's the horse shoe. And that's kind of like that's the internet Yeah By the way

Well here's the thing So let's say for example You take a list of influential celebrities Let's say you Who else is hugely influential Rogan Who else is hugely influential I don't know

Elon Musk Keep going Jeff Bezos You take all these people right And let's say When they're just looking at social media instead of targeting instead of targeting all their fans

and all their people you could target let me see this yeah yes they did a study that was NBC News yeah yeah well I'm gonna get to this one second yeah you could you could if you just made sure that their feeds had a little bit more than the average

information that was pro-Israel or pro-Ghamas if you had a little bit more of the average information there was anti-Russia or pro-Russia right what they might end up doing is thinking, thinking that these things are real, this is the right position, and then they might disseminate that information themselves. Now you don't have to influence the masses.

You could get the influencers to influence the masses. So you're saying instead of, hey, we set you up with a prostitute, we have pictures, you got to do this. We're just going to subtly give it to you, and now you're going to do our work, and we're not even going to have to do. Chris, you don't even need the pictures

with the prostitutes anymore. No, that's what we're saying. Oh, you just need the rumor of it. No, no, no, no. You don't even need that. You could literally just feed information to people and then they'll start to believe it. If you guys are disciplined in the things that you believe, even though we might disagree on certain things, you'll actually read articles, you actually digest information.

We know Rogan is very disciplined in the things he believes as well. But I'm sure that there are plenty of people out there who are influential that are just going to be regurgitating the things that they see. And that's, those are the people that are most susceptible and their followers are susceptible to them as well. Now, here's the crazy thing. You've spoken about bots, right? Yes, right. Now, you believe the bots are real. Absolutely. I know they are. You know they're real. We did a whole thing on them. We did an autopsy. You did an autopsy because the bots are real. Not only bots real,

YouTube accounts are real. Absolutely. Bot YouTube accounts. Absolutely. Okay. You can make comments through these bots, right? Yep. you can inundate YouTube with these comments that can curate narratives and make it look like that is what the people are thinking. 100% when in reality it is all bots. You can also make the creators think that that is what the people want,

that is what the people like, that is what the people don't want, that's what the people dislike. This is all facts. And you can manipulate the creators into creating what you want through bot warfare. How many of these views that they're getting are bots?

Oh, a lot. They don't know that. Now they're creating things for these views that aren't even real. Now you've convinced a creator to make videos reacting to or just curating shit out of nowhere for certain narratives

that aren't only bots supported. I swear I'm trying to find this article, man. It was an article that NBC News did that literally showed how these people, these fake YouTube pages, whatever you want to call them, bot, whatever else, they're creating these pages to just attack people. And these pages get millions and millions and millions of news.

And then it feels as if the attack is real. And then the real people that watch it go, oh, wow, this is the trend. This is what is actually happening right now. There was a song that, try that in a small town. Remember that song? It was a song. Okay.

I clicked on the video. And I don't know if this is actually. is true, this is proof of this, but I just, I clicked on the video and I saw that all the comments were very similar when I was looking at, this might have changed now, but they were these YouTube accounts that were very similar. It was like a name and then four numbers. And I'm like, okay, that might just be like the auto generated YouTube account. It doesn't have to be real. But they all had the similar narrative, which is, I'm a Latina lady and I agree with this sentiment. They were all defending. They were an immigrant person because he was talking about like

certain behavior, I think it was from immigrants or from like, I think was it from immigrants specifically or from inner city people that were. It's like, I wouldn't allow this in my town. And it would had innuendos like, if you're an outsider, we don't fucking. Exactly. Right. And it was all non-white people in the comments like, I support this. We shouldn't allow this behavior. This behavior is awful. So. But didn't he have like the KKK in the video and wasn't he waving like a. No, but, but Confederate flag and... It doesn't matter. The point is that...

It doesn't matter. Meaning... I'm just fucking with you. I made this all over. Okay. I just wanted to see how far I think he was willing to go. The defendant point. I was like, there's no way that shit.

But the point, the point being is that you could curate the narrative to the video. Like, if everybody's going, this video is racist. and this video is fucked up, and this video is anti-minority, anti-immigrant. But if you look at the comment section and it's all immigrants going, I support this video and this sentiment, now you're thwarting the narrative

that the video is putting out there into the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But who would be promoting? The recording company, the Becker label. This is what I said, NBC News, look, this is the headline. I told everybody to go read this a long time ago. This came out back in fucking January of 2024.

fake news YouTube creators target black celebrities with AI generated misinformation. Some channels, and by the way, these channels used to do this with tech reviews. So some channels pivoted from tech review videos, the misinformation about black celebrities bringing in millions of views. So these same channels used to do tech reviews shitting on... They're agnostic. Shitting on tech. Then they switched to black celebrities. Because it was more views.

That's right. So these are the same fucking channels that they'll use. use to target politicians, celebrities, any misinformation they want to spread, they'll do it on these YouTube channels. Motherfuckers watch these shit with millions of views think it's real. Like, they'll even use pictures.

They'll have still shots of, like, Diddy and handcuffs? And they'd be like, Diddy's house, you know, just, what, this house really digger? But you know what I'm saying? It'll be information like that. Like the most wildest, faking shit. Everybody should go read this article. The moral of the story is what we're trying to tell.

tell you is don't believe shit you see on the goddamn internet. I'm not even joking when I tell you this. Do not believe shit you see on the motherfucking internet. Because all of us are guilty of spreading misinformation in some way, shape, or form. The reason that I like to watch all news channels is because I like to see what everybody is talking about. But that's hard for a lot of people, especially when we don't, most people don't even have TVs. Most people, they just have their phones. That's a good point. That's the information source. Yeah. That's a good point. Yeah. That's the answer to me. We fucked then.

It's a dangerous place. It's a dangerous place for living in, ladies and gentlemen. We're fucked. We're fucked. We're fucked. Let's pay some bills, Chris. Let's do it. Oh, we fucked, though.

We're fucked. We might come back from it, but we're fucked. You think we've fucked, fucked? Yeah. For a while. I don't know if we fucked, fuck, man. I think that people are starting to come back to the realization of just like what's, of what can remotely be true.

as opposed to just believe in anything. I think you're fucked for people that don't fuck with you. What you mean? If people are already committed to misunderstanding you, there's nothing you're going to be able to do to get them to ever see the truth of you. And I think it's even worse when you are a successful person. Let me tell you something.

They will never see the truth for you. There are certain people that will never see the truth for you, but the second you say something that's supposed, their argument. Oh, you know, oh, my God. They do that to me every day. All the time. I don't never agree with Charlemagne,

but he write about this today. I don't never agree with Charlemagne, but he right about this. Like, how many times do y'all going to say this? And it shows you that most people who are popular or influential, whatever, most people are not. They're just tools for your opinions or emotions.

That's right. And the second those people veer off, this is a horrible example. Can I just make a horrible example? I love what you make horrible example. Okay. Kanye is a perfect example of this. Kanye has actual fans. Yes.

Because he went out there and he said the most heinous, fucked up shit and people maybe didn't start believing it, but they were like, I fucking love Kanye. I think Drake is a better example. It was easy to get cut. Kanye was out there saying anti-Semitic stuff. We know it's people out there that's anti-Semitic. It was easy to get people on your side with that.

Oh, no. I'm not talking about the new people that he got. I'm talking about there are people that fuck with him forever, and then he started doing that, and then they were like, you know, he's a troubled, fucked up guy, but I do believe in him as an artist, and I believe in him as a musician. I don't like those views, but I still fuck with, like, what he's done.

To me, that shows, oh, wow, you actually really cared for this person and how he made you feel with his art at one time. You don't necessarily like those views. But there are other people that you know the second they stop, any of these, like, CNN pundits, if they decide to be Republican, they're dead to their constituents in a heartbeat. They bull in your head.

Oh, they could go to Fox. No, no, no. To their fans, their Fox fans might go, oh, you're great, but they're other things. You're a puppet. You're a puppet for your constituents. I have to say this. Yeah, nobody even isn't listening to me unless I'm saying what you want me to say.

Now, what was the Drake thing that you were going to say? I was just going to say Drake is a good example of that now because everybody acts like they hate Drake now. But everybody knows Drake has actual fans. It's just that the Kendrick did a number on him, right? And the anti-drake stuff is really loud, and people have confidence. And it gets you views and shit now. Yes, it's fun. It's fun.

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So you'll see these campaigns, whether they're at, whether they're at Trump, whether they're at the vice president, whether they're at shows, whether they're at me, right? The only time you know that these campaigns are fake is when you're really outside. Remember we was talking about earlier? We were talking about the bookstore and the bookroom bookroom stuff like that. You'll have, you'll literally have hundreds of YouTube videos talking about this person fell off. That person fell off. And neither are the people that's actually moving shit. Do you know how many videos I've seen about Joe Rogan falling off?

Bro. Meanwhile, he's the number one podcast in the world. Yeah. What are we doing? They're all such hacks, dude. It's just like, and they all copy each other. They just find something that works within the title. And then the other ones see that that worked for them.

So then they do the exact same title. But what are they basing this off? Their feelings? No, it just views. It's like once somebody's very popular, especially like, in the YouTube space, you just get a lot of clicks off their name. And then saying something horrible about them is going to induce clicks in the name.

And they are powerful, though. They can, like, set narratives that aren't true. They, like, make them up out of thin air, and they just push them out there. And people click on them, and they'll get views. And the more views, the more people make those types of videos. I had somebody make a dad, like, my career was over while I was literally at the peak of my career.

Bro. Like, I was doing arenas. Arenas. That's what the, I'd be one. I'll be trying to make burner accounts. I'm straight up. I'm doing arenas in Australia. I'm almost.

I dream to fall off if this is falling off. You listen, fuck the burner accounts. I'll be about to get under there as radio face. I'm like, what the fuck are y'all talking about? Yeah. Like, that's the shit that doesn't make any sense to me, but then I realized something, right? And I realize it when I see people talking about the podcasts that have done these big deals recently. Oh, you know the list I'm talking about.

Who's the list? I just had the list. Who's the list up? Alex Cooper. Yeah. Who is it? Dax. Kelsey.

Yeah. It's a top. Okay, here, yeah, the top five. Recent major podcast deals. Border Room put this out. Joe Rogan, Spotify, $250 million. Alex Cooper, Sirius X-M, $125 million. Smart list, $100 million.

Kelsey Brothers, Amazon, $100 million. Dax Shepard, $80 million. And what happens is these will get posted. And then literally you'll see like black Twitter, black social media go crazy. And they're like, who the fuck are these people? And we don't know any of these individuals. And how the fuck they got this money over this person and that person?

And I'm like, this isn't a race thing. Yeah. It's a metrics thing. If I simply showed you the numbers, if I simply showed you how much your favorite podcast that you see probably go viral all at the time. and you, your algorithm is always filled with their shit. If I showed you their numbers, compared to Joe Rogan, or Alex Cooper, or Dax Shepherd,

you'd be like, oh, shit. Man, what am I talking about? I didn't know the disparity was this fucking great. And I'm talking about like, bro, I'm not even talking about like a couple men. I'm talking about tens of millions difference. Yeah. And what goes viral all the time and what we see on these blogs all the time as opposed to what's really moving. out here. So my point with all of that is,

where do you get this shit from? Like, do we actually look at real analytics or do we just go off vibes? Just go off vibes. Emotion, what we feel. How can I satisfy how I feel? I'm not getting that deal, so fuck it, it's racist. Fuck you, yes, it's right? Yeah. You know what I mean? And it's not just them? It's just, that's just how the game works.

Listen, I got, here's the thing, man. This is my mindset. I've always been like this. If there's something that I can actually go look up to show me that it's something other than an ism? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to go look it up. Yeah.

Being that I'm a podcast executive, I see a lot of these numbers. Yeah. I'm just simply saying I know it's not close. And that's why you can't even call it racism because there's not even a black or brown equivalent to the Joe Rogan's, to Alex Cooper's. Like, it's not even, it's not. Those purchases are going to come from.

for everybody because, I mean, we were talking about this a little bit before, but like, I think, I think what's happening in podcasting right now is what happened to magazines, where magazines started out pretty broad, and then they got hyper-specific. Christian Bash-Bass Fisherman Magazine, gay climbing magazine, whatever. They got... What are you climbing? You know exactly. You know exactly.

Not... It's not... Come on now. That was a good. It's not offensive. If it's funny, don't do the rule. If it's a joke, we have to leave it in. So...

So, and I think that's what's happened with podcasting, is that, like, the podcast, I think overall numbers will continue to grow. It'll just be like the thing that people consume is just part of everybody's life, but the podcast numbers for shows probably will shrink because there's so many hyper-specific things you can listen to. This is my basketball, like, nuanced basketball science podcast that I listen with JJ and LeBron. Here's my funny basketball pod I listen from Barstool. Here's my... And both of them might be getting a million

listen to an episode. Or they're getting $250,000 each. Great. But, which is awesome. Now, here's the thing. What I think, the reason why there's all these purchases for podcasts right now is because I think the podcast production companies or the IHeartMedias have realized the numbers are going to shrink overall. So we need more podcast total to generate the revenue that we want to make and the cost for our advertising units because these places are really advertising agencies, right? like the Wondries, the Serious X-Ms, that hard media is. What they are is an advertising arm that is going to serve as the podcast. They go, hey, here's your $20 million, and then we're going to advertise against that

and try to beat that $20 million you're paying you. That's the idea. Now, the cost to find advertisers for two podcasts to three is nominal. Nah, you got to have that network. What I'm saying is the difference for me, you're right. What I'm saying is the difference for finding advertisers for two podcasts to three or two to ten is very different. Unless you're Rogan or Alex Cooble. Yeah, yeah.

Those anomalies are different. But even then, I would say it's even easier to find them advertisers because they're in sucks. They're so big. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. But so they're looking at the model and they're going, hold on. If I have my advertising team that's already built in place, if I have 50 podcasts or 100 and I don't need to hire any more advertisers, I might as well have 100. and then each of them is making 100,000 views or 200,000 views, that's actually better than just having three.

And I think that's why you're seeing this buying spree happen again. And by the way, they're buying companies. That's the other thing you're going to realize. Alex Cooper did not just sell as call her daddy. She has a network. Yeah, yeah. You know, Dak Shepard is developing a network with Wondery. Smartless is a network.

And that just goes back to what we're saying. Rogan is just the anomaly. He's the, yeah. Stop comparing yourself to Joe Robin. Please. Everybody. Black, white, Asian,

Extraterrestrial. Everybody stop comparing yourself to rogue. It's just a generational thing that happened. It's never going to it's, we're never going to see again in our lifetime.

Yeah. It's just not happening. Biggest podcast by far. And I'm going to tell y'all something else that y'all may not know. The podcast audience, and Chris, you know this,

is very white. 60% of the podcast audience are white people. Yeah. 14% are black people. The makeup of America. Everybody else is others. You know what I'm saying?

That's just the fact. So if you have a podcast audience that's very white, who do you think they're going to be listening to? Like, they're going to listen to things they can relate to. That's why Hallis Cooper kills. It poke hole in this, but it feels just like what happened with TV. So TV, individual networks were having tough times doing ad sales. And then the streaming era came.

where, hey, if we group up a couple of networks, I can throw these all on Hulu, and we can start making more money because we package it all. Go back before that. Go back before that. You don't even have to look at it like that. You can look at it like...

like MTV was owned by Viacom. Viacom had Comedy Central... Country music, television, V, V, H1, all of this. So I don't know if there was one advertising unit for Viacom. I imagine MTV had its own, and they had their own, but they all come back to this mother that is Viacom. So hypothetically, you could advertise across Viacom if you wanted and leverage those relationships across the entirety of it.

Which people do. Which I imagine also IHeart does even with radio. It's like, okay, I want to advertise on the breakfast club. Then I heart goes, okay, well, give you the breakfast club, but you also got to take this midnight slot as well if you want the primetime slot. I imagine this is how it works, right? To a certain extent? I don't know if I want to tell her to fucking sausage.

I think that's how it just, all right, let's not use you. But in TV, it goes, we're going to give you the number one show, but I'm also going to need you to take some of these. Well, no, it depends. It depends, right? Because, like, in day parts, certain shows just command more. So it's like, you know, like those big Fortune 500 companies, like, no, we're spending this amount on Breakfast Club.

Yeah. This is what we want. This is the talent we want doing it. You know, it's a little, little, little, little different. just a little bit. Sure. I feel like TV, so the numbers

hasn't gone up in TV. Like, I feel the people who watch TV. That happens, though. That happened. I thought that happened in Byacom. What I'm saying.

Yes. And I feel like that's what's happening now with podcasts. Like, I think we've reached the zenith in terms of the amount of people who are into podcasts is going to watch podcasts.

We don't know. No, the fact is we don't know. I'll be honest with you. No, the audience is growing. I don't even think it's close. I think that I think we will double.

Really? Yeah, but what will happen is... It will just be dispersed. It will just be dispersed. So the illusion will be, oh, it's not as many people watching anymore. But the reality will be they are watching so many different things that now it's becoming hyper. Whereas TV viewing hours on streaming have gone way up, way up. Like everybody's just streaming.

Oh, I was talking about just like trash, like regular cable television. Well, that's a different anomaly because people are not watching cable anymore. Yeah. And so now we're seeing people go from cable to the streamers. Yeah. That's why those numbers are going up. I'm talking about them podcasting. I don't think, I think there are certain people that I just like to listen and we've exhausted that amount of people.

Maybe it might go up in terms of people going from radio to podcast. But like, I have a group of friends that they just don't watch podcasts. They will never watch podcasts. It's just not their thing. And I think it's just the same thing like TV. What do you think the podcast audiences were or what? Oh, I have no idea. 464 million podcast listeners projected to reach over a half a billion this year.

Yeah, I think we're at a billion in like five years. Maybe less. Like, I just think podcasting becomes so ubiquitous that it is just like, for example, if you want to learn about microprocessing chips, there's just a podcast about it. That's right. It's just niche. It's niche. Yeah, it's niche.

But that's the beauty of it. By the way, that's what TV was. I can go to Discovery Channel. I can go watch National Geographic. I can go watch CNN. I can go watch ESPN. Build a house channel. That's right.

There's a food channel. Absolutely. And those channels weren't doing crazy views, but what they did is they found a way to maximize that ad rev across all the views. So what MTV did that was really smart is instead of having a celebrity or whatever or like a famous actor for one show, they had I hate the term celebrity they had

talents for the network so Charlemagne and I were network talent meaning they put us across all the shows so now you have four different shows

that Charlemagne and I are both on and the same audience is watching all these different shows but you only got to pay us once oh wow

right so until you get too big And then you get too big and then it's a different thing. And then when the contract is up and we renegotiate. Yes. But the idea of that, I think, is quite interesting where you're going, you're essentially going, okay, we can't afford to have a different superstar on every single show we have.

We just don't have that money. But what we can do is find some talent that can go on four or five different shows and then monetize that way. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't want to talk more about my business. It's great for my time. It's great for time.

But I think the main point being is, is podcasting is growing. Podcasting is growing. You might see this illusion of numbers going down, but the total numbers are going up. And people just have to find different ways to monetize their viewership. That's right.

Podcasting as a whole is just here to stay. And there's no black podcasts that are doing the numbers as the Joe Rogan's and the Alex Cooper. Not yet anyway. I'm not saying that they won't be eventually. But right now, it's just simply not. Yeah. It's just a numbers game.

So when you look at these numbers, And y'all see these tens of millions of dollars getting thrown around. Trust and believe. And don't get me wrong, these numbers are inflated a little bit too. How do you think Trevor Noah does on Spotify? I don't know how Trevor does. But, I mean, I don't know. I don't know how Trevor does.

But I mean, even when you look at the top 10 most listen to podcasts, there's nobody black. Breakfast Club does 15 to 20 million downloads a month as a podcast. That's the biggest black podcast. But we're not in the, where it's still not in the top 10 with the J. Shetties and everybody. So my point is, just imagine the numbers that those people are doing. By the way, I know some of these numbers.

I can tell you what the Kelsey Brothers do every month, right? And it's a lot. No, their numbers aren't that crazy. Oh, what? Kelsey Brothers. Audio? Uh, I guess I'm thinking video. See, somebody sent me that this, whenever somebody sends me that tens of millions of dollars these people are making, they always,

somebody literally did this to me this week. They sent me. Interesting. Club Shay Shay Videos and Travis. videos on YouTube, Travis and Jason. And he was like, he's getting millions of views and they're only getting tens of thousands. I'm like, it's the audio. Interesting.

Audio, they're doing like 10 to 12 million a month. So how many episodes do they do a week? I don't know, you know. Good question. Is it one? I don't know. Do you know at one time, and Joe Rogan can say, I remember at one point, Joe Rogan was literally had 100 million listens in a month.

Yeah. Like 100 million downloads in a month. This was before the Spotify did. So when you see the Brink's truck, it backed up. Doesn't he do that regularly? I'm so... I don't know about now, but I'm talking about when he first got the Spotify deal, it was a hundred

million downloads. I'm just talking about audio. I ain't even talking about the video, wow, wow, wow. I'm just talking about audio. Wow, wow. Yeah, it's not even a conversation. But it's okay, it's okay. There's no way that you would know that because that number's

not visible anywhere. Yeah. So there's just no way that people would put it together. You are on the back end of things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, I am. Let's do some Askin an idiot, my boy, because I've got to get back to my daughter. I do want to talk about one thing before we get to the Asking Idiots, man. It's just this simple culture war that's still going on. It's just, you know, dividing families. It's dividing people. I mean, and I just don't even get it at this point.

I mean, whether you're Gaza, whether you're Israel, at some point, you have to decide who's gonna be rookie at a year at Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese. I don't even think there's a discussion. This is a discussion, you think? This is a discussion that's happening. Oh.

The end of the thing, I don't think people need to discredit Angel Reese. It's crazy. You know what I'm saying? No, I think that you've got to give it up for her for what she's done this season. She's just broke the all-time single-season record for rebounding as a rookie.

And Caitlin's on pace to break the single season record for assist as a rookie. She already broke it. No, she hasn't broke a jet. He's on her way to breaking it. Broke. No, she didn't. Broke. No, she didn't.

When? When did it just happen? No, she didn't. She's on pace to do it. She's leading the league in assists right now, but she hasn't broken the all-time single-season assist record. Ah, whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's on pace to break the all-time.

Yeah, rookie record for assists, but she's on-pitched. to break the all-time single-season WNBA record. You said rookie assists. No, I said as a rookie. Oh. Like, Angel broke the all-time single-season record for rebounding as a rookie. Caitlin's on pace to break the all-time single-season assist record as a rookie. He's already broken the rookie record.

But she's on a place to break the all-time record. Okay, so here's the reality. Okay. I say this with supreme confidence having never watched a single WMBA game in my life. You never in the NBA's history have they given a MVP award for rebounds and double doubles over points and assists. That's never happened in the history of the NBA. It's never happened in the history of the WMBA. the only reason why this is a discussion, I think, is because Angel brings a lot of game

to the game. She's very exciting. You can't have one without the other, yeah. You can't. It's fine. It wouldn't be as fun. Okay, no, no, but it's a fun dynamic. Now, so I love the fact that it's this discussion.

I love the fact that we're even fucking talking about it. But in terms of what you give an NBA rookie of the year award to, you would never highlight rebounds and double doubles over points and assists. You just wouldn't. It's never been done to history. Maybe we change that history now.

Got to do it now. Okay, that's fine. You got to do it. If you believe in D.I. We could give her the D.E.I. No, no, no, no, that's a good idea. We could give her the D.E.I. Kail?

Yeah, we're going to give me into the DEI. No, Kail is the DIA. No, Kail is got points and assist. That's what we've always rewarded. Kail is the DDI in this situation. But if you wanted to D. A white girl doing what she does? DEI hire all day long.

Points and assists? Yes. Scoring and sharing? That's what white people do. Sure. Listen, WMBA, y'all really want to shake shit up? By the way, this is a vote. There's no doubt in my mind. The voters aren't going to give up what we want.

Why is Cheryl Swoop so upset of Caitlin? Maybe I'm missing it. I don't see what would make sure so upset. I don't even watch a video that says she's upset. He's the title. I just thought it. The title's just like, she's upset. I'm like, I could have winged it.

These girls can't get along. But all I saw her say was that they should be co-roquie of the year. Am I tripping? Lisa Leslie said the same thing. WNBA icon. What does Cheryl Swoop say before we do some afternoon? WANB Hall of Fame and broadcaster Cheryl Swoops held in X-Faces on Tuesday to address a controversy regarding her previous statement about Katelyn Clark.

Swoops has been criticized as a harsh and by some unfair critical Clark dating back to the end of Clark's college career. Swoops infamously made questionable statements about the length and statistics of Clark's college career during an appearance on Gilbert Arena's podcast in February. While discussing the topic of how Clark broke the NCAA's all-time basketball points record in her senior year, swoops suggested Clark played five college seasons and took over 40 shots per game. Swoops was also criticized for a comment that included the phrase,

25-year-old playing against 20-year-old during the discussion about Clark's college success, but Swoves did not directly implicate Clark being older than her listed age. Elon Clark right now probably takes about 40 shots a game. do you have a 25 year old plan against a 20 year old like you should be killing them yeah I don't see the problem

why don't they just do co-rookie they might like just they might but why would yeah I mean they honestly might there's really now do giving it to Angel would infuri if you really want

like a like civil war if you can't just give it to angel not what do you mean you got to give it to both now listen as rookies they both overachieved

as rookies they both overachieve give it to angel bro now if I had a vote yeah if I was voting yeah I was voting yeah

I would give it to um angel I think you're I like chaos yes that's a thing there we go no no yeah

that's the thing but I can I can see a vote for I think that any white person voting it should be worth three-fifths of an actual vote. And if with that, Caitlin still wins, I think they should give it to Angel anyway. I liked it. What do you think about that? I like that.

I think that's how you, that's how you create controversy. That's how you get people excited about this lesbian shit. Not lesbian no more, bro. This is not a lesbian sport no more. You know, you're right. Once they got the straight girls in there looking bad, like it really changed the dynamic. That's what it's... Hit something to it.

No, for real. Because, no, once the straight girls in there was looking bad, all of a sudden, now we're watching, now we're into it. But before, when it was the bow-wows, I liked it then, too. I liked it then, too. Nah, I did. You want some cutey patutes.

Those girls too young. I will say this, though. I'm not... Let's do some African days. We got to do some African-Nism. Don't they got to be in their 20s, to even be in the league? I'm 46. No ditty, bro.

A 20-year-old girl, you can't bust over? Nah, 46? At 46? Looking at a 20-year-old? You can't look at a 20-something-year-old girl? Oh, man. And they tall as hell? Oh, man, I can't wait.

And him girls are tall as-as-house? You know you got a daughter, right, bro? Yeah. All right. What about it? This is all going to change. We're going to watch out this changes over the years. Don't say, don't tell them nothing.

I didn't say. I didn't say. Don't tell them nothing. We're going to watch how this changes over the years, bro. You're gay. You're going to wish your daughter was. You'll see. I'm telling you.

I wouldn't put that lesbian shit on nobody. That stud love is different. That's how you get the microplast. Man, that stud love is different. Paper rock scissors. Ha! Don't insult me. Oh, no.

Oh, no. Oh, no. Don't ever insult the stud by playing paper rock scissors. What's paper? What's paper? I know what rock is. I know what scissors is. What the fuck is paper?

There is neither one. When you're dealing with two studs? No, but if you go scissors, they rub clits. Rock is somebody straps up. But what's paper? I didn't even think about that. Yeah, rock paper scissors is how lesbians have sex. Oh, no, I just was thinking scissors, scissors, scissors.

It's usually scissors, but if you got a stud, then that's rock. They get the strap. But what's paper? Rock, paper, scissors. The tongue. That's the paper. The tongue would be the paper. Yeah, the tongue would be the paper.

The rock is the strap. Of course. The tongue is the paper and the scissors is the scissor. Nah, but we could do better than paper is something else. The tongue, you think it's better than the tongue? Yeah. What's paper? Go buy yourself some new overalls.

Is it money? Yeah, go buy yourself some new overalls. There you go. Hey, we're not fucking a night. Yo, salute all the studs, yo, studs be running down on me, yo, studs be running down on me. Like, yo, Charlotte, you got a problem with us? Salaman.

I don't have no problem with the studs, okay? Y'all just toxic, and it needs to be acknowledged, okay? The same way men get credit for being toxic, stud, y'all have to start getting credit for being toxic, too. I can't imagine three girls running down Charlemagne in the exact same outfit he's wearing. Scareding the fuck out my security. Security don't know what to do, okay.

They don't know who to protect. I'm like, yo, yo, yo. No, no, Charles, son. It's the Spider-Man meme. My chel. There's all three you left me. I'm like, chel, if the city's under that big-ass t-teacher. That's how you got to prove it.

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purchase of a website of domain. That's Squarespace.com slash idiots to save 10% off your first purchase of a website of domain. Let's do some asking idiots. Mike Hurst 4 If y'all could switch bodies And do a day in each other's careers Would you? Ooh

I'm trying to take the thing That I would be most Excited to do In your Throw back up, Chris No, that'd be crazy I don't know Because I have too much of a fear of stand-up

So I could never do that Yeah, but you want to do it I don't want to do it I am in awe of stand-up comedians I can come to watch you in Duval and 85 South Show and Donnell and Jess O'Larius and any of those people any day of the week, I think y'all are maniacs for going on that stage by yourselves

and trying to make all of those people laugh. And I think it is incredible when y'all do it. And I just don't think that is the, I think stand-up is the hardest thing to do on stage by yourself. That's just my personal opinion. It is what it is. I respect the art of it too much to ever play with it. Same way you don't play boxing.

you don't play motherfucking stand up. But in this situation, we would be doing it. So. I don't know. Because matter that I go up there and bomb, because I'm you. I'm just in your body. I'm still me. Ah, yeah.

You understand what I'm saying? You know what I mean? I mean, you got to just open a set with one word. I already know what I would do, though. One word. Nah, I already know what I would do. Yeah. I would do that just for a day.

Just adapt to be one thing. Yeah, well, wow. I just got one thing I want to do. What? No, that's not it. It wouldn't be that. But I would do, I don't even want to say it, because I'm trying to get Andrew to actually do this for the longest. You can believe it. Where for one day, I go in front of every single different community and just tell jokes about that community. Yeah. So I show up as Andrew shows. I say this to black people. And I go say this to Asians. Then I go say this to kids. Then I go say this to transgender. You know what I mean? That's all I want. So you want to tank his career as much. It wouldn't take it. That's what I do already.

Andrew is funny. I go to the Middle East. I do it. I go to Europe. I do it. I go to all the different communities. Yeah, but you're going to be doing it. Yeah, you're just going to be saying.

Yeah, you're going to say how you say. Well, guess what I'm going to come in here and do. Hey, team, let's go. Let's go. All right. Turn the camera sideway. Let's fucking put this. You know what I'm saying?

Come on. Let's go. The fuck is you talking about. You do that? That's a winner-winner-winner chicken dinner. That's it. Show to have to go. Oh, we got to finish with this one.

Okay, go. Garif and Harrow. He's not here either. Say three things nice about Taylor without laughing. She's beautiful. She's brilliant. Oh, I'm sorry. What else?

She's beautiful. She's brilliant. And she's incredible at getting the videos up in the exact moment. You should have bet, Gareth. Okay, you go. What's your thing? What, say three-night things about Taylor? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Without laughing? Yeah. Her mother makes incredible cakes and pies. That's good. And I love eating her mother's cakes and pies. That's, they taste so good. It's so warm. So soft.

Taylor's mom. That's her mom. Having a nice mom. That's she got a great mom. on. And that's all I got is two, yo. I don't have three. I don't have three. I can't do three without laughing, okay? As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple

idiots who don't know shit, you're right, too, it's the brilliant idiotist podcast. Thanks for you listen. Peace.