The Brilliant Idiots - A New Day (Ft. Donnell Rawlings)

Episode Date: March 8, 2024

In this episode, Donnell Rawlings joins the crew and they discuss various topics, including Donnell's career, the power of YouTube and podcasts, the controversy surrounding Meek Mill's tweet, and the ...importance of humor in comedy. They also address the sensitivity of talking about sexual topics and the importance of supporting and uplifting each other in the entertainment industry. Donnell Rawlings discusses his experiences in high school and the military, as well as the first time he felt appreciated. He also talks about the process of creating his Netflix special, Donnell shares his thoughts on originality and parallel thought in comedy. The conversation also touches on misunderstandings and language barriers, as well as the importance of accepting love and recognition. Donnell discusses the impact of the internet on comedy festivals and shares details about upcoming shows and festivals. The hosts discuss the power of self-made platforms and the ability to control one's own destiny in the entertainment industry… ********************************* Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" www.blackeffect.com/ TaylorMade-It Production Contact: Taylormadeitprod@gmail.com Check Out "Summer Of 85" on Audible www.audible.com/pd/Summer-of-85-A…areTest=TestShare Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:21 Let's start the show. Hasakaya Walker. What's up, sir? Man, we have a guest today, a man who we've spoken about on brilliant idiots podcasts on numerous occasions. He's giving us so many hilarious. moments over the years. He's one of the best stand-up comics. When have you ever? When have you ever? One of the best stand-up comics alive. When are you ever? One of the best stand-up comics alive. Nobody fucked with him on that stage. And I'm gonna tell you something else. One of the most naturally funny people alive.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Naturally funny people alive. He's seen him on Guy Code. He was a judge on Guy Court. Uh-huh. People know him being Ashley Larry. He's straight. He's straight. We don't know about that. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. We know. We've seen him as Ashley Larry on Chappelle's show, and he's got a fantastic Netflix special out right now. Oh, this is a new day. Out right now. Donnell Raleigh!
Starting point is 00:02:10 Bram, bram, bam, bam. I do you say that. That is the most honest. I know why you're full of shit, because that is the most honest. He can't take love. You don't- Donnell cannot take love. Why can't you take love?
Starting point is 00:02:26 I can't take love. You can't tell him how you feel about him? He hears me all the time. And why is it so negative? Because he can't help it. That's just how he's why he's wired. I don't know why. He wants to have this trauma and he wants
Starting point is 00:02:37 people to think, oh, nobody likes me. You're hilarious, Donnell. Donnell. Let me show you. You can't lie about being hilarious, you got a whole Netflix special. Everybody sees. I feel like I'm getting jumped. All right? I feel like, no, y'all leading up at the same time
Starting point is 00:02:53 and everything. We love you. We're leaning into the love. Now, you lean into it. I've, uh... You lean back? I'm good. Well, what I'm saying is that's the old Donnell. that the old Donnet was very sensitive, and I came here with a different attitude, and I wanted to show you love, too, and I bought you a gift. I bought you a gift.
Starting point is 00:03:13 You're re-gifting. No, I gave you a gift. I'm about to embark on one of the biggest tours in the country called the Black and Mildo Tour. There you go. And I wanted to give you that. There you go. There you go. And also, because I'm very, very mild.
Starting point is 00:03:26 You're regifting. I'm not re-gifting. I gave them all of this stuff early. I, you're regi-old. You're regi-old. I just want to say. This is what I just want to say. You and a lot of people inspire me so much.
Starting point is 00:03:40 And everyone knows I'm a fan of my eyesauce, right? So Peggy's, I have a collaborative idea because I want, a lot of people don't like things so spicy, Andrew. You know that, right? And it would be safe as a black man to appeal to every culture. You want to keep it right in the middle. That's why I'm going to go on tour. This is going to be one of my mouth. This is going to be one of my sponsors.
Starting point is 00:04:04 This is where you got to... You know you got into a fight in Pennsylvania. I did. Yes. And but it doesn't... It doesn't stop here, Sharley. But you didn't even think about that. I bought this for you because you got into a fight in Pennsylvania and it's mild.
Starting point is 00:04:13 This audience that has no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Yes, it comes out after this club. All right. It's another thing. Got it. I don't know. Andrew, I got this up, too. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:04:27 This is more emotional. I got this is more fitting for where your life is right now. Oh, thank you very much. It's a candle Beautiful. I got. I would love a Donna Raleigh's
Starting point is 00:04:36 candle. That's not just that's a special one. What does it? What does it smell like, Donnell? Do you have to do a sniff to us and tell yourself?
Starting point is 00:04:44 Oh, wow. Oh, get the fuck out of here. Look, Dillf candle. Oh, I thought I said Dilk. But what, look at what it says. Dick, I love fucking.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Why would you sell that? That's almost kind of gay. I thought this was a place for truth. Gay is in, bro. I mean, gay is in. Only if you want to.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Be in the movies. I want to be in the movies. Dick I love fucking candles. That is so awful. That's so awful. It says, look. I knew this. I love fucking.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Go close. What does it say? Oh, it doesn't say. Oh, I thought it was serious. They don't say, think I love fucking. No. It says dedicated, involved love fucking dick. Nah, no.
Starting point is 00:05:23 He got a problem with being emotional. He knows you want to tear up. No, this is beautiful. It says, dedicated involved loving father. Dill. And I did that. Dillf. And I started.
Starting point is 00:05:31 I started. saying that actor, everybody think it's done, that I like the fuck. And I even told you, I'm not going to get emotion to say I care about you. But, you know, first of all, it was dope that you got married. You did it the right way. You got married. And then soon after that, you had a kid. And you did reach out.
Starting point is 00:05:46 And I reached out. And I don't comment on too much or nothing, but that meant a lot. What did you say? What did you say? She reached out, he's like, this is the thing I'm most proud of you about. Or most proud of you for. Dope. And that was far. And, you know, there was part of me who's like, we don't need it. You can be proud of me for everything.
Starting point is 00:06:02 No, not. I'm jealous. Dave, now we're getting to some honesty. Now we're getting to some honesty. Now we get into some honesty. Now we're getting to some honesty. You know how are you? For me to say that shit, I was like this old cracker-ass.
Starting point is 00:06:20 And then I was like, and I was like this, white boys love this nigga, right? Right. And after that, I saw a 50 cent tweet. I was like, this thing got everybody there. I'm like here in my community. Stay over there with Taylor Smith. Stay over there with the burnt crisis and shit. Give me the buttons and all of niggas.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Next to you know, this. I was like, oh, come on, it won't stop. But you was running that. But no, I got to say, I'm proud of you. Fuck you, man. I was on guy going to go, too. Digger what happened about it? What did you mean what happened to your career?
Starting point is 00:06:51 You have a great career. Well, I have my career. He did it the fuck out, town now. And he did it the way, the fucking gay way. He went independent and did it all itself. I don't need the industry. Oh, no. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:07:05 You know what? Fuck you, Netflix. I'll do it on my own. And Netflix had to circle back and still give him a special. And he wasn't even staves enough. He was sitting down. Sitting down. Why are you arguing with me?
Starting point is 00:07:17 This is what I'm talking about. While a lot of people are out here making excuses, here's an example of a Caucasian, white man that figured out how to work the system and not wait on how. Hollywood. He's not sitting but he's not behind the desk talking about this person passed me,
Starting point is 00:07:37 this person presents me. And this is what we need to do as comedians and everybody. Guess what he did? And this is a lesson for everybody. He bet on his fucking self. But what did he use? What did he use, Donnell? This platform. What was the platform? It was a whole bunch of platforms. No. Oh, you guys.
Starting point is 00:07:51 No. It's really influential friends. I never argued that. What are you talking about? Can you calm down? No, just earlier you said Can you calm down? Early. Can you You got it. Earlier you made a statement and you said, you're just on YouTube and podcast.
Starting point is 00:08:06 I have a Netflix special. What did I say it for? And who did I say it for? Corey Holker. All right. Now, now we want to address it? The reason? Digger.
Starting point is 00:08:14 You did it. I didn't. No, wait a minute. I didn't. I didn't. You, he's the funny. That's not the same conversation. He might be the funniest.
Starting point is 00:08:25 He is, I'm telling you. What I'm saying is, that's a different conversation. You can't be... What I'm saying is... Y'all want to address it? Yeah. I've been talking about the last 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Yo. All right, y'all are addressing? We can address it. But listen, the honesty of it, like, you can't use him as an example because he used that platform, not to shit on people, not to expose people. Not as shit, he used it to better himself in his brand. There is a difference. Yeah, but Donna, we're not about to sit here and do a Cory Hopeboy out. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:08:57 I didn't say you bought his name up. You asked me. You asked me. You have a special out on Netflix. I'm like a rapper. I'm shooting shots subliminal. Yeah, you know the nigga I'm talking about. You're four foot two with a perm.
Starting point is 00:09:12 I didn't say a nigga name. You know what I'm talking about out here reading books, 4,000 books, 4,000 books for seven months with a perm. I see you out there. Me at the track. I erased you, nigga. Boy, boy. I didn't say nobody named.
Starting point is 00:09:26 That's true. I didn't say nobody. You got no clue you're talking about. Nobody knows what you're talking about. Nobody knows what you're talking about. None whatsoever. I'm talking about the difference. All right.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Okay. The difference is, let's talk about something now. But you, you, the same way Show. No, no, because you want around me. The guy didn't let you do it for me. No, Shultz ran that circuit. You had a podcast on the Joe Rogan's network. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:44 What about it, though? What are you saying? I'm saying you was in that same network with the Bert Chrysler. This is what? This is what. Brett Chrysler? This is what you said. What's his name?
Starting point is 00:09:53 I can't remember. I'm sorry, Brett. Bert Chrysler. Bert Chrys. Bert Chrys. Burt Chrys. I'm sorry. Brett.
Starting point is 00:09:56 No, this is what What you said was I didn't speak down on a person with a YouTube or a podcast. I spoke down on a person that's trying, that tried to fuck with me. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:09 And in this situation, I would say this situation, that's what they do. Right? No, let it go. Yo, how many movies do you need? Okay. Well, the number is,
Starting point is 00:10:18 it's like clubs before you've got to do gay things. Well, I've never done that. What the streets are saying? What are the streets are saying? What streets are saying done that? Like, you go to a club is a two-drink minimum, right? But in the world of the music, you go to, if you go to a set, it's a three-dick minimum.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Wow. You know what I'm saying? That's what the streets are saying. So you have that have three dicks in you to do one movie? No, no, no, no. And we're going to keep this very heterosexual, right? Yeah. Why?
Starting point is 00:10:43 And I know the reason why, white people are very comfortable. Doing what? Okay. One hundred percent. So are you! Or even borderline of or even thought of. They don't really care about you having to thought of it, whatever. But black people, it's a very sensitive issue.
Starting point is 00:10:55 And we're not. I can't answer. Nobody thinks you're gay. You're a dad. You're a dad. Okay. What I'm saying is, they're going to say this, Andrew. They're going to say this.
Starting point is 00:11:03 And then you let the white boy head dick talk around you. They're going to say that. Like, what? No, so real Brooklyn niggas are going to be mad that I let them speak, dick around me. Mad gay Brooklyn niggers, y'all. It's mad gay Brooklyn nigg. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:11:19 I know that. I know that. What? What? You know, you know, that's my man. You know, that's my man. Yo, you heard? My man's not.
Starting point is 00:11:27 I know. I know. Them dicks is getting it popping, too. But, you know, that's not what you're talking about. But why do you think, why do you think just talking about Cox around you would make people? Damn, no. You know. You've been in the same time.
Starting point is 00:11:41 The fact, this is what I know that you have crossed over. And it's over. You're comfortable with it. Look, my, I'm still tight. That is true. You're doing dick talking. He like this. He's like, yeah, all.
Starting point is 00:11:51 So what's the problem with that? He talks about it more than me, Bobbin. He's popping. He loves talking about scorpion balls and shit, too. You went, what? I know, I got a, it's just a long story. That is crazy. Yeah, he had a story, and there was some guy got,
Starting point is 00:12:06 he got a scorpion, a bit of his ball. Tell him the truth. The scorpion bits of balls. Tell him the truth. And you went further to say, well, how big is his balls. Tell him the truth about the weekend you spent in jail in Pennsylvania. And it was the guy that was in the cell with you who had the scorpion tattoo on his ball. Tell him.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Donnell, stop. Tell him. Tell him. Don't try to flip this on me. The streets are not saying that Charlemagne was talking about cox. Live your truth, Donnell. The streets know Charlemagne talking about cock. Okay, so it's fine.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Yeah, it's fine. So he doesn't get judged by that for- I'm from South Carolina. No, but they just gave up. The game cops. You are a game cock. Go cox, baby. He loves cox.
Starting point is 00:12:38 No, what it is, they just gave up. That's my wife's alma mater, the cox. Go cox. Yeah, yeah. They gave up. Who gave up? The people that would get upset but they gave up because they know that you're not going to stop.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Never. So they just gave up with you. And do you think the same would happen to you if you just embrace the cock talk? I'm not embracing the cock talk. I ain't not wrong with you a blue game. Everybody was on fire right now, son. I've already been in three movies, nigga. I can't.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Before the podcast started, you said Falaccio was on fire in these streets. I knew black. You said, Dick Suckers. What did you mean by that? I said the conversation, like every reference, everything that has to do with success or anything, people associate that with you having to or somebody gave somebody, fellatio or filetia was fallacia was involved with it. That's what I said.
Starting point is 00:13:24 For the last two weeks, every story, especially in our community has had something to do with filetia. I think it's just you. All right. I think it's you. It ain't not wrong with being a little gay. Everybody's a little gay. Who's doing this? I thought it was Chris.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Yo. I'm like, yo. What Chris is? I need some headphones. I need some headphones. I don't know what the fuck's going. Somebody set me up, man. It was you on DMZ. Somebody set me up. No, it was. I didn't know anything about it.
Starting point is 00:13:53 I want you to think about this for a second. Yeah. I'm minding my business. I see my guy Donnell Riles on TMZ. I watch. I have no idea what you're talking about. All I hear you say is, yo, you know, you suck more than three dicks. You've been in a movie.
Starting point is 00:14:07 I'm like, what the fuck is Donnell talking about? Yeah, that's a good point. I've done three movies. Anybody that's done three movies and comedy has performed for a show. I didn't understand it. Why? What do you think about this picture right here? Do you think that that picture shows the relationship
Starting point is 00:14:21 that Charlemagne and I have? That picture shows that somebody's about to be in their third movie. I'm not going to say which one. One of them is waiting for audition. That's what that shows. Somebody is like this. I got to get this role.
Starting point is 00:14:38 I don't know. I don't know. Somebody's like this is the one. Do you think that's too tender? Yeah, that's tender. That's borderline three movies. Why is that Tinder? That's love, man.
Starting point is 00:14:49 I get two friends, are you serious? That's love. You don't see that I'm, you don't, a motherfucker is scupping your head. Look how he drinks water. Look, ain't that a little gang? That's not about that.
Starting point is 00:15:01 He's cut. Why you got to stand up just now? Little Woody? Cheos. No, look. You had to a judge. Look, he's a judge. Your hand is on his belly.
Starting point is 00:15:10 I had to look. Your head is being cupped. Son. Because we were reenacting the Michael B. Jordan, Jonathan made his picture. Remember the picture? We don't need excuses. And then what was the feedback for that?
Starting point is 00:15:21 So you wanted to follow that? That's the suit you want to follow? Well, you did a great job. It looks very. That's what satire is all about. Listen, Andrew Shultz went viral, right? I mean, he goes viral often. You got him set.
Starting point is 00:15:33 You got upset because you saw 50 post about him. I didn't get upset. A shout out fifth. Yeah. What did you? Let's play the joke. I want to know as a comic, because you say comics shouldn't critique other comics. I'll tell you what I felt when I first saw it today.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Okay, let's hear it. We don't got to play it. This is so awkward watching her also. No, it's not. No, it's not. This is, and he was in Philly. Let's set the stage, yo. You said this in Philadelphia. I saw somebody say, Andrew and Braden's
Starting point is 00:16:01 Can I set it up? Let me say this. And I said, Andrew and Meek don't have the same audience. Can I say this? All right, let's round. Can you rewind it? Okay. Rewind it.
Starting point is 00:16:12 I was, that's a crazy ass shit. Look at my head. Look at the picture. No, no. I see it. Back it up. Okay. Back it up.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Back it up. Me, we're in a locker room. All right. And I gotta show you something. What I know is a lot of people didn't see this when it first starts. Go all the way in the back. Press play? All right to the beginning.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Yeah, press play. That's what you're trying to say. Press play. It was gay happy. I was like, meek milk. Yes. Stop it right here. See that?
Starting point is 00:16:40 That's arena full with fans. Right? From hard work. That's fucking with nobody. not say you had to suck. Andrew fucks what everybody. Let me say, you asked me to do it. I think he's doing a subliminal.
Starting point is 00:16:53 First thing you gotta see. First thing you gotta see, this is an audience. This is a Hurl's chicken shop black comedy night. Okay, run into you. But he is incredibly bad at proving history.
Starting point is 00:17:11 He is maybe the worst in history at doing that. When someone accuses you of being, hey, you don't get on Twitter and go, I'm a pussy so much, it's so juicy and light. It's my favorite thing to pot my dick. It's my dickens.
Starting point is 00:17:24 It's so juicy and it's so black. Even if sex was a girl, that's what you know I love women. He tweeted that and I was like, oh, he thinks that's disgusting. And you know who else thinks that's disgusting? Look, yeah, he's... All right here. Hold on, hold on. This is the funny part.
Starting point is 00:17:43 I thought you don't like watching it. Well, this is the only fun I like it. No, but shout out me, bro. Shout out meat, man. He's done a lot of amazing things in prison reform, right? Get on them gay dudes' house so he can suck their dicks. What's the far. See what this far.
Starting point is 00:17:59 What's the fuck. Motherfuckers in jail. We need them on the street so I can bust them cheeks. Hop on the back of his dirt bike. On the front, whatever. But listen. Yeah, yeah. Can I say what I?
Starting point is 00:18:12 That was white privilege. Donnell, if you made that joke, every dream chase in the world will be after you. No, look at, look at what Meek said. Meek laughed at the joke. No, Meek didn't just laugh. What he said? Meek added to the joke in a way that he don't even realize he added to the joke. Oh, I said.
Starting point is 00:18:27 He had a great sense of humor. This is what we should be able to do. Make fun of people. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. When you watch this comment who's sitting right here, first off, it's easy. Let me say this.
Starting point is 00:18:41 It's easy to come. It's easy just to riff on topical things. It's certain things that come out in the news. And you can just say, meek meals, and everybody's going to laugh. But he took it beyond that. He took it to that to a structured joke with a callback, with a punch, with a point.
Starting point is 00:18:56 You know what I'm saying? That is fucking real comedy. Even when I first saw it, I was like, yo, for a motherfucker, and to be, this, this, I don't know if you understand. This is hot on the news. You're in front of thousands, thousand people. Right here with this joke, you're taking a chance. Fresh out the oven, yeah. You're taking a chance.
Starting point is 00:19:11 You didn't go to a club or anything. I feel, I feel. But you're confident enough for yourself to say, I know this shit funny. I'm going to stick to my guns. And I took a chance. Everybody's not fearless like that. And one thing I can say about your comedy is like, you have been through, I don't know what the equivalent of white people mud is. You know, I don't know what y'all mud is.
Starting point is 00:19:33 It's more like sand. Yeah, sand. It's a big sand and the Bermuda or something like that. You know what I mean? I don't know what your mud is. But that's what I see with that. And then here's the thing. If the only, you have to be able to respect a fucking good joke.
Starting point is 00:19:52 No matter how hard it is. If the joke is good, it's a good motherfucking joke. If you laugh, that should be the criteria. You can't, you can't, I don't like people who laugh and then think about it after and then start feeling offended. No, if you laugh, that's what it was to begin with. And that's what I thought Meek did. That's why I was like, okay, leave this dude alone. Why is this going so crazy?
Starting point is 00:20:11 You have the reason Meek can't help himself. Look at that first line down now. Read that first line. The first time I laughed at being gay. Like, God damn. He could have said being called gay. He had to say that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:21 There was nothing else to say. We know when he met Charlotte. I know. Not at the time like this. Every word, mad. Yes, every word, mad. No, but it's funny. But just what you said, I understand.
Starting point is 00:20:32 And I had a similar situation with my special, right? It is something like, when you do something like that, you wonder like, oh, these mothers, it's not going to stop you. But you wonder, like, are they going to be mad or whatever? And then somewhere inside of you say, if the motherfucker got a sense of humor, he'll know. He'll last. We'll let's one back up there. I had a, when I, on a new day, and I did a joke, I did this joke or told a story about Dr.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Umar. Oh, that was fun. And I was, all I kept on, I was like, this motherfucker going to come hard. I was like this. But I said, I was very, I was very, like, smart. I didn't go, and I can't bash him because a lot of things that you say are true. It's just one little thing that I disagree with with him on. I said that I was like, snow bunny.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Yeah, the snow bunny joint. Right, I hops. Same. Yeah, I hop. You, Dr. Umar. He won't me swimming in the milk or anybody, anything like that. I hop. But the thing about it was, I was like, when I wrote the joke, when I wrote the joke, when I performed, I was like, man, I know this motherfucker's a serious brother.
Starting point is 00:21:34 I'm saying, he got to understand funny. It's funny. And then it didn't take. I knew it wasn't going to take too long, maybe two days later. He reposted it. He reposted it. And I didn't even know that he reposed up him Washington, right? And this is why I know he had a sense of humor because I did the serious stuff, 95, I did that.
Starting point is 00:21:48 And you can hear me in the background. I said, oh, here it comes. He knew the punch was going to hit. I hit it. But I'll tell you one thing about his timeline. That's the most smiley faces he's seen in his timeline like two years. Because it's funny. Funny is funny.
Starting point is 00:22:00 I'm saying, yeah. Funny's gonna win. Now, this was crazy too. Meek said the first time I laughed at being gay. But then he said, but don't with me in real life. I may swing.
Starting point is 00:22:09 L.O.L. I know what he means because I understand that language. He's saying I may swing a punch. What if you're, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. No, no, no. No, no. No, no.
Starting point is 00:22:22 No, no. He's saying, he's like, oh, yeah, like it's a joke. No. I understand. You're saying swing. I may swing. Wait, man. You're saying.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Oh, yes, man. That's what I'm trying to. No. No. Cause and grandma matters, meek. Yo, this would have been a great.
Starting point is 00:22:42 No, I was like this. Hold up. Wait, wait. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Wait, yeah. Pause,
Starting point is 00:22:47 meek, pause. Yes, man. But I just assume, to his point and to your point. Free me. At first I saw, when I saw, I may swing. Free me. I put, like,
Starting point is 00:22:55 Swing. He meant. No, he did mean swing. He meant that. But the top and the bottom of this tweet is gay, ironically. Okay, but the LOL, but the LOL puts everything in perspective. No, it don't. Yes, it do.
Starting point is 00:23:09 You don't put the LL on there and then it's a fight. If you don't put the LOWL, I may do all this. Like, what if this was done on purpose and the LOL was to let you know it's a joke? This is genius. Yo, Meek might be a marketing genius. I mean, listen, we can't stop talking about Meek. Hey, that's the thing. Like, Meek knows how to use social media.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Because personally, I'd have took me his phone away a long time ago, especially at a time like this. The best way to not feed into any sort of allegations about you when they're not true is don't respond to it. You know what he should have done? Don't say shit. That's a hard thing to do when you're a vocational. That's like the hardest thing for me to do is not talk about who I don't want to talk about. I know, don't know. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:23:46 We are perfectly aware of her. No, because I don't know. You have shown us that this week. Yeah, but I like, like, you should have seen him in Berger'sub interview. He was like, he was like, and I know what you want to have. He was like, nobody was talking about. He was like, hey, what you mean, comedian's beefing? Nobody said anything about it.
Starting point is 00:24:02 I already knew what was coming, so. No, it wasn't. But it's, I know, okay, all right, you want to talk about your special, right? Your successes. So the gifts you gave me was you want to talk about New Day. Listen. Why didn't you bring, you, you gave me eight, you gave me eight. This is what you want to talk about my special,
Starting point is 00:24:21 no. And I knew you was going to do it, because I heard the episode before this. And you was talking and this thing is saying, oh, I got something for him tomorrow. I heard you, son. I was like trying to get ready for you while you were getting ready to speed. Listen, I want you that shit, son. You was on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:24:38 On Netflix right now. You kept calling yourself black and mild. I thought that was genius. I was like, yo, that's genius. When you kept hashtagging black and mild, I'm like, that's what he's doing. He should own it. You're leaning in.
Starting point is 00:24:48 You're leaning in. So I said I'm going to rip off the mild stuff. So you've had this fan face long enough did they believe everything to come out your fucking mouth? What do you mean? You think they believe this bullshit You said you were doing black and mild on Instagram
Starting point is 00:24:59 What I did was I flipped it Yes I flipped it And I thought that was genius And you know I flipped it to what Okay let's get to it All right Get to what
Starting point is 00:25:10 So you know I just want to get to it I just want to get to it I just want to get to it And when a nigga do this He gets to it So okay Let's get this correct
Starting point is 00:25:23 So you know The mild reference was reference. Let's get the silence. Just got one understand. So you knew the black and mild reference I was using was basically turning lemons into lemonade. Yes. And you know the situation was triggering to me. I didn't know what was that trigger.
Starting point is 00:25:42 You didn't know what's true. Let's just talk. No, I'm your therapist right now. Let's just talk. Let's just talk. Okay. You know it's triggering to me. You knew it's triggering me.
Starting point is 00:25:53 You know I'm sensitive. We've had experience. Yes, yes. Everywhere I go, people like, they say, why do you let them do that? And you're all right with me, but for the streets, I had to say, man, fuck that South Carolina. That's why I say, because I don't want to think that there's any chance of us having text messages outside. So, knowing that you, I'm a sensitive person, you know the things that earth you, you did it for seven years. You knew what my trigger was.
Starting point is 00:26:17 You knew what my trigger was. I didn't know my word was such a trigger word. It wasn't. Until it was. It was. Damn. Okay, I understand it. You know not funny was my trigger word.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Nobody said you wasn't funny. Earlier on. Earlier on. Who? Nobody said. You. I've never said that ever. Do I have to?
Starting point is 00:26:37 Yes. Rewind all the tape. I will please. Please. Nobody said you. Please. You never heard me say that. In fact, I said the opposite.
Starting point is 00:26:45 I said I saw Donnell Rial at Radio City. After. Dave Chappelle, Sedgitainter, Marlon Williams. And I said Donnell was the funniest person on the stage that night. producers, just do this for me. Just go rewind. Why would I ever say you're not funny? Because you were trying to trigger me.
Starting point is 00:27:02 No. That never happened. Listen, this is how calm I am. I'm trying to explain. So you know that I said to black and mouth to respond to a certain thing and what I thought was a classy way. You know what my trigger words are.
Starting point is 00:27:19 You know deep down inside that upsets me to be called mild. You saw me flip out on TMZ. So with that said, you notice the trigger. You decided to either DoorDash or Instant Cart an Easter basket filled with everything that said mild on it. What y'all don't know is, this is the bully that y'all don't know. That is not true. Yo, I don't fuck that therapist.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Get a new one. You know that this was going to trigger me. No, I didn't. You said you loved the green mild sauce, I got you. You didn't know I loved it until you triggered me. You didn't know that. So just stop with the shenanigans. You know what's so funny about the word mild?
Starting point is 00:28:00 You're reacting to the word mild the way women first reacted to little Duvall calling them basic. But see, he was calling basic bitches. He was calling basic bitches, basic bitches. I'm not a mild comedian. You know that, though. The same way Meek knows he's not gay. But I still can respond to it. You can.
Starting point is 00:28:22 I know you're going to. good friends of Michelle Obama, and she says when they go, how we go low? All right? I don't know Michelle. You're good friends. No. Well, you know she's a, you know her.
Starting point is 00:28:33 You know her? Yeah, I met Michelle a couple of times. And the question, when you met her, how did you smile? How did I smile when I'm? I'm going to show you the look you did. Show me. That is not true. I actually with shocks, you knew who I was.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Yeah. Everybody knows who you are. And I said, what do I call you first lady, whatever, whatever she said? Everybody knows who you are. So you, what she's saying? Everybody knows who you are, Shalom. I don't want to say what she says. You're responsible.
Starting point is 00:28:59 What people know, you're responsible the things that you say. Yes. And like when you give me, you know how many niggas is ready to get busy in these streets? And then when you say, you give me like busy like like like fuck, fuck fuck fuck fuck with each other. Like that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Like the dick is over here. Freaky Ziki? Like what you mean? Like free, what the fuck? Hold on. No. Fingering guys in the snow. Freaky say the niggas over there with the hammers.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Oh, hey. Yo. What's going on, Donnell? You're spiraling. This is crazy. You're spiraling. It was two days. I put one nigga in the four Nelson.
Starting point is 00:29:40 That was you, wow. And I was from the back. And then the niggas over here was shooting. Right. And then I was blocking it. And then it was two niggas over there with it, with the, with the, with the, with the, with, with the ratchez. No, say, you want to say hammers.
Starting point is 00:29:55 It was two over there with the hammers, and they got the hammers, and the other thing got the hammers, and then I pulled out the hammer, and they had hammers. That's an orgy. That does seem like, wow, orgy, though, now. It does seem like an orgy. What I'm saying is, you have a responsibility. You know that you were going to trigger me.
Starting point is 00:30:17 I did not. Yes, you did. A whole Easter basket field would make. gave you a gift because you got a special out. This is crazy. Well, this year started off the year of the truth, right? It does not feel truthful
Starting point is 00:30:34 in here right now. Why not? Because he's lying. But is he lying about thinking you're funny? Because I've never once heard him say that you weren't one of the funniest comedians alive. I genuinely have not ever once heard of him.
Starting point is 00:30:46 He can't accept love. Donnell thrives off thinking that people don't fuck with him. You guys have your inside jokes for sure, but he's never once not said that. He said you're one of the funniest human beings alive. Ever. He said that after, and I knew what was going to happen, after he saw me eat the audience up. And this is how it started.
Starting point is 00:31:09 This is how it started. That was great. Don't feel. False. Don't be a crazy. Don't be. That was a great. Eat him.
Starting point is 00:31:20 He's a lot. He's a audience. You can just eat them up. Y'all ears are up. Y'all ain't give a fuck about who was in there either. Man, women. You were just going to eat them to fuck. Y'all.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Days. You were going to go crazy. Was the audience member that you ate up male or female? The sensitivity of you guys' ears when it comes to gay shit. We got gay ears. This is a gay ear to room. Which is better than a gay butt. Huh?
Starting point is 00:31:45 Huh? Huh? Huh? See, my ears ain't gay. I don't even know what I'm going to say. Huh? What? What?
Starting point is 00:31:55 What? When you was younger, when you was younger, when you was younger, did you... Why are you going to trigger me? No, did people tell you they was proud of you? Did people get you encouraged? Damn. The reason why?
Starting point is 00:32:08 I'm not saying they were... The reason why, because I didn't do anything for them to be proud of. Nothing? When I was younger, I was a troublemaker. Now, I wasn't like, we proud you made a basketball team. I was the water boy. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:32:22 I wasn't proud. And then they didn't know I was going to be a comedian. Niggas said that you funny as shit. But they never said, we're proud that we can come get you out of lunchroom and roast. Like when it was time to fight, they never came to get me for fights. But when it was time to roast,
Starting point is 00:32:36 they was like, go get that little big-haired nigga. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But nobody, I don't, I think. Is that when you felt appreciated? I didn't feel appreciated in high school. I didn't feel, I was nothing to be proud of me for it. My mom always is proud of me. That's good.
Starting point is 00:32:50 What's it? follow your dreams. But I think, I know this is crazy. But the first time I felt somebody, people being proud of me is when I joined the military. Okay. You know, and they were like,
Starting point is 00:33:02 we're proud that you served. But they tell everybody that, though. I know, but I was like this. And what I, they were. No, it is. The first time I felt someone was proud of you in my life. It was being a military.
Starting point is 00:33:15 And you just cut the legs. No, I didn't mean it like that. He's not a triggering motherfucker. This is. Oh, I didn't mean it like that. You're not a trigger. Look at that. That's young Donnell in the Air Force.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Because what I'm trying to get to the bottom of is why can't you just accept love? Were you a, I do say, a redtail or whatever? No, I was a military police. I was police, yeah. No, I can't. You look wild young in that photo, yo. Yo, I was- How old are you there?
Starting point is 00:33:37 I was 17. I was so, when I went, I was stationed. 18 and I was, yeah, unless your mother, I literally had to get a permission slip from my mother to join the military. You can't, you have to be 18, but if you're under 18, your mom has to sign for you. And that picture right there, I was 17. The first base I was there was Kusan Korea. That picture over to the left, right there with me and that CJ5 Jeep, I was 18. And people thought, people thought I was a general son.
Starting point is 00:34:04 They thought I was a dependent. They didn't think I was in military. The Koreans used to call me Eggie-I. Egi-I is Korean for babies. You should be talking about nobody's eyes. I said, Egyz. That's crazy. Nuna, how you have a-go, Nuna, how you have chedha-e-hi-ha-hi-ha-hach-ha-hi-ha-ha-ha-hach-hi-ha-e.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Yobaseo, Yobo seo yi o'o yi o'maniopo Yipso Kada chagchi money yi so hapsidae translate Chris Asian he won't That's racist No he is real You didn't know what Asian he was though digger Oh you're right No he is, he's Korean
Starting point is 00:34:38 Are you Korean? Are you Korean? You speak Korean? Taiwanese Oh Taiwanese damn, my fault You said he's Asian so he should speak Korean Yeah I didn't know what he's That's right canceling this show right now, son
Starting point is 00:34:48 You just said... I'm just dumb! You say he's Korean, so I... That's just stupid. You said... What were you saying? You said... You said he's Korean
Starting point is 00:34:55 so I know he could cook Chinese food. That's what I heard. I never said that. That's what the same thing. Can do it. Yo, yo, yo, yo, come here. Come here. Yo, yo, come here.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Yo, abseil. Yo, come here. Money Upso, Kada Chogi. You ain't got no money. Beat it. Money... What that means?
Starting point is 00:35:11 Listen. Yo be sale. You're baseo. Come here. Yeah, come here. You'll be sale, EDI, Money. money,
Starting point is 00:35:18 Upso, you ain't got no money, Karachogi, get the fuck out of here. Money, is so, haps shudah. That was the,
Starting point is 00:35:25 that was the theme song for the horse downtown. Got you. What did that mean? I just told you. It means that. You ain't got no money
Starting point is 00:35:32 get the fuck out of here. Yeah. You got to say all that for that one sentence? Yeah. How you go, man, chungi. They got to doktokee out of so?
Starting point is 00:35:40 Wait, do you speak fucking Korean? Hungomalo my lord chokum. I speak a little Korean. Hango my little Korean. He probably just bullshit, you know, and we don't know him. So he- I go, I go.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Shikara, shikara, i tukcha. Shikr is be quiet. I would talk to you like that. You have respect. It's a talk to you. Yiptuk-chak-t-cheng, Yai-ma. Like, if I don't have beef, I'm like, Yama, you do about. And then I will tell you to get away from it.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Any Korean are looking at me right now, they'll be like, this date father. Yai-ma, you-abba. Yajit, cuss him out, like, got a ch'-choo. How did you not get on cameo on a cameo on fresh off the boat. This is great. You don't even know what the next move I'm about to make. I'm going to manifest it right here and this is going to happen.
Starting point is 00:36:24 My next special, I'm going to do in Korea. I have a story that. I have a story that nobody can fuck with. So somebody said something to me earlier today, right? They said they were talking about joke thieves and these people that steal jokes and stuff like that. And
Starting point is 00:36:40 I always thought like this, if a motherfucker's a joke, don't bitch about it. Even beat them up or leave it alone. Write another joke. And if you really think about it, so if you really think about you, you're a comedian around the circuit. When a lot of times we hear these stories about somebody stole a joke, it's not, it's a joke that can easily be
Starting point is 00:36:56 stolen. It's a premise that's stolen or thought of. Thought of. Parallel thought. Yeah, it's like. I think that's what the internet has showed us is that like you're not the only one capable of having an idea. You your original idea, there might be someone
Starting point is 00:37:12 else with it. Someone else's original idea. There might be someone else. This happens all the time. on Twitter. Somebody says a funny nickname for somebody. And then 10 other people in the comments also say the nickname. Right. So it's possible. It is so... I look it like this. As a person and this idea, as a person, even with
Starting point is 00:37:28 my special, when we did it the first time, Dave Candle. The first time I did it, I did it too much. I remember watching you talk about this. Yeah. He canned it. Because he thought it was mild. You know what? Be honest. You know what? Whatever definition that is, maybe he thought it was mild. But this was his reason why.
Starting point is 00:37:44 I got a stand a note. I ripped a room. them, staying late, they going crazy and shit. And this was at the heels of the pandemic. I didn't have no place to work out. Usually when you do a special, you running your lines. I was doing, I was working out of the goddamn cornfield. 10 or 15. I thought those days were over.
Starting point is 00:38:00 What? No, they are. Oh, shit. You got it. Oh. Let me find out. You said it's sincere to you. They are.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Let me find out days got to work and in the cornfield. That's how I felt like. Sweet Lord. What song you come out to? Come and take me on. What's your walk-on music? I know on it.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Come and take me home. You went from fucking Korean to slave like that. I didn't know you had all these. Most of town. So the first time, the first time, the first time we had already, we had announced that we're going to put the special out, earthquake had one, I had one.
Starting point is 00:38:49 They went to Mariety. Dave was producing this time. I remember seeing this shit, right? And then he called me and like, and I was like,
Starting point is 00:38:55 when are you going to fucking watch it? Like, when are you going to watch it? He was busy. Then he called me one day, I was in Baltimore. I remember it. He said,
Starting point is 00:39:01 yo, Dee. I said, man, I'm in editing right now. I'm like, go. We about to go! I was like, you finally made the edit.
Starting point is 00:39:08 He said, he said, I want to do it again. You know, that's the most insulted thing you can say to a comment Because the first thing you say is, was it not funny?
Starting point is 00:39:16 That's the first thing. You ain't talking about lighting or nothing. You're like, what you're trying to say? Did I hit it? And I said, how did we go from being excited to you want to do it again? And he said, Donnell, you're one of the funniest comedians I know. He said, I could put you in front of any room and you will destroy the room. He said, but that doesn't make it a great special.
Starting point is 00:39:37 He said, if we're going to get this right, he said, out of everybody that's in that lineup. He said, and no slight to Luneo, no slight to Earl. Earthquake or Tony was, he said, I'm that associated with the brand. He said, mine is the most anticipated. Yeah, I would agree with that. You know, so he said, if we're going to do it, let's do it right. Yeah. And then I say, I need to have more information.
Starting point is 00:39:56 And then he's like, listen, you did a lot of COVID jokes. I think that's a smart. It was a smart. Very smart. You know, and I, and then I, but it's old. It's dated. It's like. But I'm thinking, but you got to think about it like this.
Starting point is 00:40:08 I'm in the moment. I shot that in the moment. I wasn't thinking of the future. Yeah. I shot that like, what's popping right now? But it was a good decision by him to recognize that, like, culture has moved on. So we're still talking about these old jokes. It might not be as well received as it would be if it came out two weeks after.
Starting point is 00:40:23 I would have dropped it. Say, dropped it then. When you think you see a mask, your brain immediately goes to 2020. Which is maybe not the best time for you. Especially if you were four years later. I think this is a fantastic decision. And it's a fucking costly decision. That's what a lot of people don't realize like that.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Yo, Jeff Ross said it to me. He was like, you're doing it again? That's unheard of. And the thing about it was... That shows how much Dave believes in you. 100%. So we said we're going to try... We said we're going to try to do it again, right?
Starting point is 00:40:51 So it's just a random situation. He records, just like you records all this sets. Yeah. So we were doing some shows in Napa Valley, and Ricky Hughes was in the room. Shout to Ricky Hughes, one of the dopest producers, Grammy Award, winning, Ricky, whatever.
Starting point is 00:41:02 She's dope. So we're in the back. It's just meet Dave and Ricky. And Dave said, Ricky, how many cameras do we have here tonight? Ricky said, we got five cameras. Dave looks at me. He says, you want to shoot your special?
Starting point is 00:41:12 I said, when? He said, tomorrow. I was like that, come on, man, anybody else would be like, Luke? Yeah, yeah. I was like, first of all, I need a suit, and I need red socks, right? That was going to be my thing, right? But I got excited about it. You still got on the same socks right now?
Starting point is 00:41:25 I got plenty of them. That's my new thing. I'm going to sell them, too. So, get a chance to do it again. Go up there. Can I ask a question? Yeah. Are you doing an hour regularly?
Starting point is 00:41:42 Now? No, not now. Like at that time? Or were you doing- So how do you put together the hour? I'm gonna tell you. Very good question. What I don't realize that?
Starting point is 00:41:53 This is another thing. I'm saying, I'm asking a real honest question. And I used to, like, I'm going for an hour and it's special, right? But I have nowhere to practice an hour. Yeah, you're probably doing, what, 30 or something? Not even that. Think about it. And this is where I was practiced in the show, in the back of pickup trucks.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Think about it. During the pandemic? What year is this? This was 2020. On the first special show. Yeah, the first special. What I'm saying is I had no place to do a whole hour. So what I did was I would go to places and I said I'm going to do 15 minutes sets.
Starting point is 00:42:25 You would break it up. I'm a piece it together. Yeah. And I said, when I used to, then I was like, okay, I'm doing 15 here. That's going to be that. What's going to be my transition to go to the next thing? All I got to do is sew it together. That's what I was saying.
Starting point is 00:42:37 I do 15, 15, 15. So that's how I was practicing. And then once a club started opening up where I did a, I, I, I could do an hour. I kept telling them to give me three 15 minute lights. I wanted to know exactly where I was in the hour. In the time. Because the contract for these shows that we were doing,
Starting point is 00:42:55 they was only supposed to be a half hour. Yeah. These specials, it's supposed to be. The money I got for half hour, you would not believe for that. Yeah, yeah. It was only supposed to be for a half hour. But another thing, and this was Robbie Praagh,
Starting point is 00:43:07 Robbie Praagh and Dave thought differently. If you don't know, Robbie Prairie, he's the guy. Robbie Prairie, the biggest name. And he greenlights all the specials for Netflix. So he knew what he was going for 30. Dave was adamant about just keep it 30. He'd say, I want to be an intro card. He said, I would keep it nice and sweet.
Starting point is 00:43:23 I can't argue with it because he got me hour money for 30 minutes. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like for a nigga just coming out with not really that social media heat and all that day. Yeah. I got a nice bag. I got a nice bag for it. I'm glad you learned that.
Starting point is 00:43:38 You get a lot of bags. So I got a damn. So you're making this decision between 30 and an hour. I'm glad you didn't deny that you get a lot of bags. No, no. I saw his glasses fog up when you said that. So it drove crazy that you didn't deny it. You didn't even deny it.
Starting point is 00:43:54 The thing that, and where we were. I hate liars. Where we. So you have to make a decision between 30 an hour. Dave is like, hey, why don't you do something 30 tight, sweet, a missile? He was telling me introduction. Exactly. He was telling me, all we need is 27.
Starting point is 00:44:10 He was like, but I was like, nah, when you think of the idea, especially think I don't know. I understand where he's coming from, which is like, give them an introduction where they're begging for more. Right. So I like that logic, but with you,
Starting point is 00:44:23 I would say you're different than the average comic, in that a lot of these people already have seen you. That's right. Already know who you are. So it's maybe not an introduction. But I do like his logic.
Starting point is 00:44:31 It's a combination of both. Yes. And then, but the thing is, Dave won, he won at 30. And Robbie was like, Robbie won at 40.
Starting point is 00:44:39 And the reason why Robbie won at 40, because you, it's a certain, you got to do at least 40 minutes for you to be able to chart. Yeah, you got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you want to get the exposure from the episode, not the episode,
Starting point is 00:44:56 from the special doing really well. Right, debut number one on. Yeah, but here's the thing. And I understand, like, it was like, it wasn't a conflict. We all figured out the way to make each other happy. Yeah. Like, what Dave's, Dave was more like,
Starting point is 00:45:09 fuck that I wanted to be. funny. Like, even if I would have came up a minute short, if it was everything we had, everything we had, we, he was going to keep it like that. I think that's the smart decision. But he was the thing was, this is like when it comes, this story is so dope. So we were at 30 minutes,
Starting point is 00:45:25 38 minutes, and it was fire. Right? It was a clean. I think I did 42 that, 44 that night. We was, we, we, the first pass, we turned to 38 minutes. And then Robbie is like, is it 40 minutes? I said, Dave was basically like, fuck to 40 minutes. And Robbie's like, right?
Starting point is 00:45:42 So I asked Ricky, I was like, damn, man, because I knew it was a clean edit. I was like, do we take anything out? I said, is it anything we could put in? This was a long shot. And she said, well, we took out missile phylamia joke. Mezo.
Starting point is 00:45:58 That shit. It's a joke about that late night medicine or whatever, right? Okay. And the reason, here's the thing, and going back to similar premises, I took that joke out because I was just scouring the internet
Starting point is 00:46:10 And then a joke Cat Williams did popped up. But he was talking about my nose. That's what I wanted to avoid. Even that conversation, right? Yeah. The fact, because it was so hot in the streets with Kat. I was like, man, I don't even want people. Oh, now he's stealing jokes.
Starting point is 00:46:26 And I knew that his joke and my joke were totally different. But when I knew, she was like, we could put it back in. And then I say, you know what? Fuck Cat Williams. I'm putting that shit back in. Right. Yeah. But if there are different jokes, what does it matter?
Starting point is 00:46:40 The shit was so hot in the streets, Chokes. I didn't even want to... Like, the topic was so synonymous. I'm not familiar to... Well, Kat was so hot in the streets is what he said. Yeah, it was so hot. And Kat had started the conversation about people stealing jokes and yada y'allah.
Starting point is 00:46:53 And then I didn't... I didn't... Because it was right in the heat of that. And we didn't edit it. Yeah. I was thinking... I was like, I just don't... I said, my shit is...
Starting point is 00:47:01 And what I said was, do I lose anything in the joke? If I take it off, I didn't lose anything. The joke still hit. But I said, put it back in. Put it back in. got us to 41, 41 got us to be able to chart. And then number two. When we stayed in like, and that's a bigger accomplishment,
Starting point is 00:47:17 like two, four, seven. It's also how a lot of people end up seeing things. They just see the top 10 and then they click it. You was number two? You's top 10 now, but why you just didn't do like a longer intro or something? Because you did like a sketch in the beginning. It's like, yeah, but that's what's, that's real funny. I don't know what time that I wanted to get straight to it.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Even, even with the- I like that. I think that, getting right into the stand-up, like when people click something, they click for stand-up. And I think a lot of times comics try to be cute,
Starting point is 00:47:44 and they put like a sketch or something in the beginning of their show, and it's like... Did you see the special? No, I haven't seen any of it. No. I guarantee you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:51 When you see the intro, it wasn't bad. It wasn't a bad intro, though. Like, I get what you saying. Like, to me... I'm the same way I want to get right to it, but it made sense for what he was doing. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Donnell's a known entity. Like, I don't think, I think there's very few people that are unaware of you that know about stand-up comedy. If you're a brand-new comic and they're already taken a risk, get right into the stand-up.
Starting point is 00:48:12 If you're Dave, you could put a sketch. They actually know you from sketch. They know Donnell from sketch. That's what I'm saying. So if you're Donnell, you're dead, there's people of, if Chris Rock can do something in the beginning,
Starting point is 00:48:22 Kev can do something in the beginning of being, people are like, I'm going to stay through this to matter what. If you're a brand-new person, I'm like, let's go right to the gentleman. Did you ever think about revising the Ashley Larry character for the special?
Starting point is 00:48:34 I haven't introduced you. No, no, but I'd, Because I kind of want to disassociate myself with that. You know what I'm saying? But you went from Ashy to Classy, though. Yeah, but I didn't want to do that. You're tired of Ashley Larry is what you're saying. No, it's not that.
Starting point is 00:48:46 He still gets people come to see me or whatever. Why do you talk about him like he's another person? He is. Has Dave ever told you he's proud of you, Don't know? Yeah, he said all the time. How did that make you feel? It makes me feel like fuck Corey Hokeham. You ask me, yo, no, let's place a bill.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Why? Why? Why? Why? Please, Corey. You and Corey get him wrong. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:06 I want Corey and we come back. Break the bills when we come back and we talk about it. Leave Cory Holcomb alone, man. Wait, wait, before you go play the bill. Well, you can show him why you play this. No, I want him to his reaction. Oh, you want his reaction. Yeah, look, Chuck.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Please act like you don't like it. This was rough. You know, though. Oh, great song. It's an expensive song to license. Hello. That's... That's...
Starting point is 00:49:34 It's a new dawn It's a new day Night night Night night Night night night Night night Yeah, it's really cool You got an organic smile
Starting point is 00:50:10 Out of me with your kid And then you know production Yeah You heard the song I used to come out 60 racks To the uh Yeah 60 grand for that
Starting point is 00:50:19 I used to come out to the Michael Blue Blay version The white version Oh yeah But But it's just an amazing, like, that's the Nina Simone, right? Nina Simone. I told people, comedy is very subjective.
Starting point is 00:50:31 That's great. That's great. Of, like, you like a certain type of comedy. Some, like, and I said, I'm not getting caught up. But like, is it the funniest thing? I didn't. I didn't try to make them. You started to make them feel. Hey, I'm into.
Starting point is 00:50:42 I'm a human being. I wanted with this shows was I wanted to feel good. Yeah. The special. And I was like, even with that. The song. That song. And I was like, when we.
Starting point is 00:50:53 did this. People like, they did you do this, everything. Dave told me with this, focus on your jokes. You get that ready. He said, let me do the bells and whistles. Right? Because I was trying to think of an intro and I was jam. The shit I was, it wasn't, it wasn't clicking. And I'm really thankful for him because, and we
Starting point is 00:51:09 had a deadline to hit. We either got to do, we had two days to get the intro right, and we was going to blow it. Rob, you already had a slot for me. He was going to blow who? He was going to, you know what I'm saying? You should correct yourself on that. You should. You should. That's a great. You know, I. You know, I know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:51:24 I know what you're talking about, because I'm, but I have gay ears and so is Charlotte, man, and other people might hear you're saying blow, Rob, that's what you said. You said, you want to blow the guy that green lights, the stand-ups at Netflix. That's something crazy. That's what it sounded like. Okay, that's not what it was. Yeah. So we had blow the deadline.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Yeah, speak fast. Yes. We had two days. We had to get it. And I couldn't think anything. I'm like, man, it's special. I'm like, man, it's special. They're going to never come out.
Starting point is 00:51:48 He was like, we need to push the date. I was like, man, fuck that. Robbie Ross said, we got February 27. We don't get that. We had two days. I couldn't think anything. He came up with this idea. Right?
Starting point is 00:51:57 He came up with this idea, and I thought it was genius. And it was so for somebody, this is when you know somebody knows you. When he's, I said, that was so genius. He was like, genius. He said, that's you, nigga. He's white, black.
Starting point is 00:52:12 What? Robbie. Robbie pro white guy. Why would he call you a nigga? No. It's part of the day. I'm talking to Dave. Oh, Dave, okay.
Starting point is 00:52:19 I said, no. So Dave came up with the intro. Yeah. Okay. That's what I'm saying. Dave said it. I was like, nigga, that was genius.
Starting point is 00:52:25 And then Dave said, that was you. I'm like, yeah, but I didn't know you ever took time to see and feel what I appreciate. You don't think Dave saw you? No. No. It was a lot of things that he put with that. The part of ripping the stage, he knows I care about.
Starting point is 00:52:45 We've been on the road. When everybody went a while, I'm looking at kids my son, the picture of my son. The fact that you had the vision to see that, you know what? And even with the song, he said, it's you, Dee. Yeah. He said, it's special. He says, it's a new dawn. It's a new day. You're waking up. And when
Starting point is 00:53:00 somebody plays something like, you don't know if you're going to get a documentary or a movie. But to be quite honest, that was what I am. When I go to sleep, think about my kid the first thing I think of. When I watch my face, when I go to work, when I go rip the stage or whatever, I'm doing it for him. But for him to see that under the gun of a of a deadline, and then to put it there, and that was kind of like the find a piece to do it.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Everybody can see you a great father, though, Donnell. Yeah. Like, we see that on social media. And we see that it's important to you to be a great father. I just don't know how to say this, child of man. What? I don't trust your face. That's you.
Starting point is 00:53:38 You don't know how to take compliments. You don't know how to take love. Yo, you fuck with me all the time. We fuck with each other. No, we don't. Yes, we don't. On your other punk-ass show, you made the audience, and you take weeks to come up with these diabolical schemes.
Starting point is 00:54:01 What you did. And I can imagine him on a set like this. Hey, y'all. He, this is what he did. This was the fuck he did. And I got the receipts. Okay, go. We do an intro.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Somebody lost age, RIP, Tiffany, in that, but not for life, but for the show. You got her fired that night. Tiffany Crows. I did not get Tiffany. Yes, you did. You said her up. True.
Starting point is 00:54:27 You let her talk about Florida. You got the Native Lamb podcast, reason choice media, eye heart right now, her, Andrew Gillum. Angela, I subscribe to that. Andrew Gillum? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Speaking of. Can I tell my story? Yeah. Can I tell a story? So I'm on a set. Dreams and Nightmare. He's got a story to tell. Can I tell my story?
Starting point is 00:54:51 Yeah, go ahead. So this is me in a different environment away from the breakfast club. Yeah. It was the show that got canceled I had on Comedy Central. Yeah, and it was just like, and it was like, let's don't say cancel.
Starting point is 00:55:01 It ran this course. Cancel is an ugly word. Ranx's a course. And so, you know, I was going to be a guest on the show, right? And then, like, everybody else. And I'm like, I know I'm, no, these niggas.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Don't be soon. So as I walk in, they're like, oh, shit, that's here. I'm like, what are a man? What is it? So I already, no, they're going to get it popping. Right? So they gave it to ever do.
Starting point is 00:55:23 They said, give it up for it. So he's a correspondent. It was like just, right? And then they say, give it up for Tiffany. They did. Right. So I know, I said, if they got, and the other person got,
Starting point is 00:55:34 I'm about to give woo, woo, woo, woo, right? I'm just knowing they're about to go crazy. As you learned, what the fuck you want? He said, Donnell Rolins. Why are you mad at him? And there's nobody clap. Why are you mad at me? Because the audience didn't give you no love.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Donnell Rallings is hell. Did you tell his audience No, I did not. You told his audience not to respond to me. We're not going to have a show like that, Sean. That is not true. That is not true. They was laughing at me.
Starting point is 00:56:03 I think you're hilarious. No, wait a minute. You set me up. I think you're hilarious. Wait a minute. Okay, I'm going to try it again. All right again. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:10 I'm going to try it again. I'm going to try it again. Now, and he's got an upcoming Netflix special being produced by Dave Chappelle, and he's the host of the podcast, the Donnell Rallings show. Donnell Rawlings is hair. You set me up, son. And I can know about that now. You're not going to end well.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Just not to end well. Why are you bad at me? Because the honey isn't more than fucking with you. You won them over eventually. You did. You didn't put you in the beginning. His face is like this. This is where you know the dick has got some sinister shit by the pop.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Because it looked like his face get contour. He can't. He can't. Yo, when he about to do some diabolical shit, Watch him from there one. His face can contour. He's like this. I know what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:57:00 This, look, this is what he about to get disrespectful, son. It's like this. Right here. That's what the bullshit is about to happen. Right here. When he contour his face. Why are you mad at me? Because the audience didn't fuck with you in the beginning.
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Starting point is 01:00:35 Let's get back to the show. Church announcement show, see? Yo, we just announced, I think it should be up for sale now. If not, you can use the pre-sale code, Staples Center or crypto, whatever it's called. Crypto Arena Shane Gillis and I are going to be doing that
Starting point is 01:00:53 May 9th So those are Those are on sale right now Shane is fucking hilarious man Go check out his special on Netflix And he got a new show This is also coming out on Netflix as well
Starting point is 01:01:04 And yeah I'm excited for that one man Salute to Shane I thought it was interesting How um Because I watched him on essence I enjoyed the monologue he did But I saw Yeah just host SNL
Starting point is 01:01:14 You guys know who Shane is I saw all the outlets Is that part of Netflix Yes, yeah, yeah. I saw the outlets giving them shit. It's so funny because I have a show doing that festival also. Well, tell them about it.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Crypto is the pre-sale code. I don't know when this is out, but go. I don't want to. You got a show at the crypto arena? After you said, I only want to say where my show is. It's not at the crypto arena? Where is it?
Starting point is 01:01:38 Yeah, it's the same in the crypto arena. I'm like, I'll be at the bourbon room on Hollywood and coins. That's where you have for real? Oh, shit. I'm in a spot. I think it is a bourbon. Urban Rome, it's a very small venue, but I still get some of the placement or whatever,
Starting point is 01:01:52 but that's part of the Netflix is a joke special. We're all pulling up. That is a joke part. Yeah, and you know. Damn, bro. Netflix. Damn, bro. Netflix is a joke.
Starting point is 01:02:02 The festival. May 6th. Who's on the show? Me and then open it. This is my show. But it's not a big show. It's a small show. But I'm going to tell you, this is so funny because Netflix is so powerful.
Starting point is 01:02:12 It just killed another festival. Which one? JFL. Montreal, JFL. Wow. Is it Netflix? Just for last? Netflix didn't do it.
Starting point is 01:02:20 But because that festival's so popping. And, but, you know, in as many years, I tell people all the time, the JFL Festival, and this is when people were talking about people, plants and all that type of shit, is that that used to be the festival that broke people. Yeah. Back in the day, that broke,
Starting point is 01:02:36 it broke Monique, it broke Kevin, it broke Dave. That was back in the day, like early... Just the last broke Dave? Yeah. There was a version of it in Aspen, right? Yeah, Aspen, but that was just... nothing was like Montreal
Starting point is 01:02:49 Montreal is the huge one and this is where people go out to see new talent this before there was we did it one year you had a line the nasty show yeah and uh that was fun it was a lot that was fun so we did uh but yeah so basically what happens is before there was comedy on the internet before there was like clips and YouTube there was no real way for these execs to go see talent
Starting point is 01:03:08 so all the talent would go there the young talent would go there and then people get fucking deals they would I don't know the internet kill just last then you're right I didn't even think about That's where everybody used to go. Well, it had something to do with it, but back then it was just like, back then, it was just Montreal Comedy Festival,
Starting point is 01:03:24 and it was the most coveted audition again. Everybody was like this. Didn't you do it last year? I did last year. Yeah, yeah, because you keep on doing it. But the new faces was the thing where you would get these years. There was two, the biggest ones, you had your gallows, of course. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Then you had new faces. Then the other one was the uptown, new, these are uptown show, the nasty show with new faces. And when I tell you, like, now the industry don't go to any showcases, Everybody. Everybody was there. And you have, you could Tim Allen got broke off in here. He did a, he had a fucking 18-minute set.
Starting point is 01:03:56 And it was around. I rewired it, and they saw something. Kevin Hart had his set. Dave, Monique did the Uptown. And that, that festival then, when you go there, you could go there as like a struggling comic, and you would leave there with a quarter million dollars with them nothing to do with you.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Just a holding deal. It was just like, people was like, It was crazy. It was crazy. And the deal. deal is like maybe you guys develop a sitcom. If you don't- But we don't want nobody else to fuck with you for a year.
Starting point is 01:04:22 That's what it was. They're paying you for nobody else to have the rights to your stuff. And this is back the day when like it was every, every comp, not every, but a lot of like, you know, marquee comics were getting these deals. And maybe they wouldn't even have shows, but they would live off the deals.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Yeah. Like that was how you made your money. Yep. Because it wasn't like, and I, you know, I am an older guy, I've been doing for a while. I don't knock anybody. So I say, you got some old heads out here, be like, and then YouTube, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:04:47 And the fact that you have the tools to say, the fact that you have the tools to blow yourself. Control your own destiny. Fuck that. And what it comes down to. And if you're a comic that got like really raunchy dark comedy, you can just set up your own platform. That's it.
Starting point is 01:05:01 5150, kill this shit. Yeah, and then you get fucking 400 people to watch that shit. Listen. Why do you, why? He started. Do you have church in a house? Can I tell you something? Do you have church?
Starting point is 01:05:10 I'm going to church about. You know what? Without that instant. You know who. You got shows coming up. I got shows. I just want to say this. You know the people, the person, you know who called me, you know what?
Starting point is 01:05:21 And I'm going to, this is my last thought of that. Yeah. You know the most cause I got was from other comedians. You know what they said? Thank you. They don't got the heart to say that they self, though. I do. But they know Cory Holcomb will come out.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Stop playing with Corey, Donnell. Okay, Corey. Okay? And I want to say, shout out to Shane Gillis. The Shang Gillis did that monologue. and people were trying to give him bad reviews. He had to know he was going to get bad reviews because they hate when somebody who got canceled,
Starting point is 01:05:54 uncanneled the motherfucker himself. Of course. That's all that was. If you had ears, if you watched the monologue, you know that he did a fantastic monologue. So here's a strip. They tried, when they cancel you, when they bury you,
Starting point is 01:06:07 they hate when you rose from the dead, but you never were dead anyway. Exactly. Because they don't want to believe that their power is useless. That's right. They don't want to believe they're powerless. So when he turns back and hosts a show,
Starting point is 01:06:17 So now they've got to sit there and be like, well, how do I discredit this in some way? That's right. But here's another thing, too, is that you, like, when you have these alternate platforms, you empower yourself. There wasn't a day when you had to go to Hollywood, but everybody's bringing Hollywood to him. I agree. And you should use, you should use the platforms. 100% but also do the things on your own so that you can control your destiny. Have another option. If you only have one option, you've got to do what they say.
Starting point is 01:06:42 If you could do something yourself, now we're negotiating. That's right. Yeah. And I want to tell everybody, church announcements, Saturday, April 27th, second annual Black Effect Podcast Festival is happening in Atlanta at Pullman Yards. Everybody's been grabbing tickets. We sold out last year. We're definitely going to sell out this year. On that stage, we'll be wallowing gilly.
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Starting point is 01:07:37 We mean closing? We're not done? Oh, we got more? Yeah. Oh, that sounds like the outro. No, it's not the outro. Also, make sure you go pre-order my third. book, it's coming. Get honest
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Starting point is 01:08:02 She'll be out April 9th, but you can pre-order that now. I don't want y'all walking around here, you know, dressing like cowboys and cowgirls, just because Beyonce is doing it. I want you to know something about the history of black people in country music. So go get my black country. Now, back to the show.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Donnell, let's want to learn through some hot topics. Okay, why now? Taylor has a segment called by any memes necessary. Okay? Shannon Sharp, what does that say? Shannon Sharp popping out. What on that joint? I saw that.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Everybody trying to, yeah, I saw that. What did you think? What does that mean popping out? You'll see. Big Shannon, big Shay-Shay. Has anybody gotten more hate in such a, Such a small amount of time. Wait, are people hate for him?
Starting point is 01:08:48 Oh, yeah. I thought he's killing it. He is. No, he's killing. But this, I'm telling you, here's the thing. With our community, Chultz, you might not know this. The bigger you are, the bigger they want to come at you and tear you. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:09:00 You said that as soon as you turned around and showed them cheeks. All right. I didn't see cheeks. I just saw an athlete. I know you play tight end, Donna. I know. I see an athlete. Can you do your lane of comedy?
Starting point is 01:09:10 And I'll be mine. Yours lies. It's true. Okay. You asked me to chime in on top on this. And I'm trying to do it. Okay, go on. You're looking at an athlete that's probably had fucking 20 to Thursday, 20 to 30 knee surgeries.
Starting point is 01:09:27 And his shoulder surgery. That's right. And everything. So, but again, this is the opportunity for people to go in, but I don't think that alludes to anything. Now, the color of that bag might have been a little suspect. I think it's a good color contrast with the far hand motion. What's the, there's a lot going on here. Orange.
Starting point is 01:09:43 I don't know. Oh, no. And he's walking into the store to promote his own alcohol. Let's talk about that. Right. But he don't drink. I don't know. It's just something about that fluorescent color, though, son.
Starting point is 01:09:54 Oh, I thought he said he did. Yeah, Shahn is the man. Why are people hating on it? You think it's just success. What Donnell said is true. It's the truth. It's the truth. The Cat Williams interview said everything.
Starting point is 01:10:03 A friend of mine said, why are these people coming at me so hard? And what do I do to them? I said, your success is just mirroring their failures in what they didn't do. You're reminding them of what they will never achieve. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, I mean, it's just strange to be upset of the host of a show. It's not like, it's not even like Shannon's on there giving his opinions of people.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Negativity gifts more energy than positivity. That is true. Sadly, why is that? We're just drawn to it, man. What you say to Ella? It's not contradicting what you're saying. What you mean? You're saying that they're just jealous people of, like, what they couldn't get, but what's comedy then?
Starting point is 01:10:39 You guys make fun of people. Oh, shit. I'm just saying. Ella. second smartest thing she said in about shut up what's number one that's great I forgot I've had it mark though
Starting point is 01:10:50 but what do you think down that this is a good point okay we will we say things in my case we don't say things to be malicious and to hurt people we say you try to hurt me every chance you get don't lie exception to the rule that these people when they comment everything
Starting point is 01:11:07 they're trying to hurt him I think that when people make comments for example there's a video where like someone's making fun of the outfit he's wearing. That's like comedy. But notice, since it's a joke, it's not hate to me. They're just teasing. They're just making fun.
Starting point is 01:11:23 There's an art to it, right? You're trying to evoke an emotion. When it's just people criticizing somebody because they're successful, then I think that's where you get into the hate category. I don't even think Shannon would find this to be hate. I think he just laugh at it. I think he would laugh at it, but I think he probably at a point where nothing is enough. God damn.
Starting point is 01:11:41 Well, because he is 55 years old. You know what I'm saying? so he don't want to be bothered. You know what I mean? But this all comes with it. Like, there's nothing. Once you get in front of that camera, all bets are off, yo.
Starting point is 01:11:52 That's the other thing. This is the price of success. Like, you got to be willing to pay it. If you don't want to pay it, then you're not going to get the success. My therapist said... People hate Taylor Swift. People hate Beyonce.
Starting point is 01:12:00 They're supposed to... What did your... What did your therapist say? My therapist was talking to me about something and he was saying how... He was saying how some people want the fame and the money
Starting point is 01:12:16 and the accolades that come with being successful but they don't want to be critiqued. Yeah. But all of that comes with. That comes to the y'all. Right now we're sitting here, people are talking about our sneakers, our outfits, our haircuts, our headlines, lack thereof, everything. That comes with it.
Starting point is 01:12:36 So is it a mental disorder if you don't want to be critiqued? No, but you just can't escape it. I think it's normal to not want to be a critique, but it is part of success. So it's accepting it. You have to. Like, if it's raining outside right now and you choose to walk out that door in the rain,
Starting point is 01:12:52 you're going to get wet. Yeah. But for some reason, my God, if I go out there, he'd know to stop that shit. Really? Yeah. But that's not the way the internet works.
Starting point is 01:12:59 We'll see. Well, I go out there, I bet you won't be raining. I'm talking about the internet. I'm talking about when people have critique of you and not around. The internet is just so, it's a, it's, we have a love-hate relationship with it. I don't like it at all.
Starting point is 01:13:14 I mean, there's parts of it you like I deal with it because it exists I really don't care for it's I mean the internet I don't believe like you want to answer the internet I really don't you know what it is I don't I don't care for the way I feel like
Starting point is 01:13:28 and I'm not no neuros clearly not no neuroscientist but it's messing with people's brains in real life to the point where you'd be having conversations with people and you're like why can't this person comprehend and then soon as you talk like a hashtag
Starting point is 01:13:42 they get it all of it bro you know what i noticed this is something i was talking about this with the boys on flagrant but like the i have the power of okay so that that joke with meek right i i posted on on instagram get like a million or two million views on twitter maybe like four million views which is i'm very grateful everybody watching that seems like a lot but like when i have a clip that does a lot it's like 20 30 40 million like it's way more than that but once the blog started taking it and carrying Say what it is. Say what it is.
Starting point is 01:14:16 No, no, I'm gonna, I'm gonna get there. Not just the blogs. No, no, no. What else? What else? The black blocks. Oh, okay. Well, the black blogs, it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:14:23 To me, it's just any kind of like news source. All the new sources that are in hip hop talking about it, all of a sudden it feels louder than it is. Exactly. Now, no. Yeah. Now, here's the thing. I know for a fact, it's not as loud because I know the numbers. I know a clip that I posted that got 40 million views.
Starting point is 01:14:42 It didn't feel as loud because all. the news sources weren't covering it. It really shows the power of the blogs. It shows the power. What is it power or noise? That's all I've been trying to get people to understand. What I'm saying is if it's a power to convince people that something is bigger than what it is. That's a power.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Now y'all understand me. That's all I've been trying to tell these niggas. It took the white man to take it. And that's a lot of people's career. And you know what? We used to have all that power. And I got a big issue with that. That's all that's all that.
Starting point is 01:15:18 How do we get all that power back? This, y'all, that's literally what my new book is all about. Oh, really? How people make micros, macros. But none of this shit really matters in the grand scheme of things. The world that y'all are fighting over is this fucking big. And then on the flip side of that, right? And I've heard people say this.
Starting point is 01:15:37 I've heard people say in recent times, like in the past year, Joe Rogan's not as big as he used to be. as he used to be. How? Because you don't see him going viral on your algorithm every fucking. But that's it. That's what they don't, they don't see it. And to show points about numbers, when he was on Spotify, he's getting 10 million downloads a month.
Starting point is 01:15:59 And he's still number one. Still number one in the world. Just because he's not on your algorithm. Doesn't mean it's not happening. But that's the tricky thing is our algorithms can become so insular. So like if you're a Korean dude and you love K-pop and you love I don't know, Korean horror movies, and that's all you see.
Starting point is 01:16:17 That's all you'll think is happening in the world. Obviously, you know other things happening. But if there's some drama in that world, you'll hear about it. It's going to feel like the biggest thing. For us, we see this Meek Mill story. It's popping up on all the pages that we follow, et cetera,
Starting point is 01:16:28 like, yo, this is so big. But if you actually look at the numbers, it's not as big as something that didn't get picked up on any pages, but the whole world. Yeah, but you're in the streets now. I'm in the streets, right? I got a chapter in my book.
Starting point is 01:16:39 You made it to the barbershops. You know what the title? You know what I got, you know what it's the chapter in my book is, worldwide nigger net. You love saying that, didn't it? Not as much as you would like. What's it like? I'm just saying.
Starting point is 01:16:58 You like saying that in public. I'm glad you, Michelle, I'm glad you saw that for yourself because I'm telling you, we literally make these micros, macros, it's nothing. But if the people, if the people feel that way, like I felt watching it.
Starting point is 01:17:16 Even though I had the evidence to show, I felt compelled. I was like, oh, this is a huge story, right? Mm-hmm. If everybody else feels that way, then it becomes a huge story. And then all the other blogs or whatever are chasing the success
Starting point is 01:17:30 that they see on the other ones, and then it actually can spiral into a real thing. Something that isn't real in terms of the numbers can become real because of the power of all those blogs and their ability to influence people. It's, you know, it's really interesting. So why don't they amplify better things? Well, the question is-
Starting point is 01:17:52 Because you don't react to better things. Yeah, that's the point. I know. And that's on us. Yo, that's on us. That's on us. Because if we reacted to the positive pieces that they made, then they would just make more positive pieces.
Starting point is 01:18:04 They're no different than any of us. They want people to view the things they work on. We might disagree with the content. We might agree with the content. But they're no different than anybody else who's creating shit. How do I create shit that people? see. We want to attention.
Starting point is 01:18:16 Yeah. And then controversy. When I did my podcast, when I did my podcast run or whatever, I, every place that I went, the first thing, they, they was like, you know, we like that controversy. They just want, they want you to come in there with triggership. They want you to come in there. Nobody, like, like, I know that you can push that, but nobody wants an organic moment now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:37 No, nobody wants to like, even this podcast, we had some moments where it's like, this wasn't like, then I'm going to say this. I'm going to say this. Andre Ward. We had Andre Ward on Breakfast Club. Oh, shout out, man. Oh, I go give me up when I was. Man, that shit was so funny.
Starting point is 01:18:51 But we had Andre Ward on the podcast. And Andre said verbatim, I know I could come in here right now. He said, it's the Breakfast Club. I know what I can say to go viral. I know what I could say. I know who I could talk about. And I'm like, well, for the sake of the show, do it. But like.
Starting point is 01:19:06 And I said provocateur. But just the fact he knew that. And listen, I'm not even going to say, and put it all on the black blogs because that's not true. CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, they're all doing the same shit playing the same. And it's coordinated. You wonder why it's nonstop Trump coverage on all these networks
Starting point is 01:19:25 and you have OGs like Mr. Clyburn saying, how come y'all don't, he's on MSNBC and says, MSNBC saying, how come y'all don't highlight Joe Biden's record? How come y'all don't highlight the things that he does? Because it doesn't bring the ratings the way Trumpito does. They would rather talk about Trump sneakers all week because they know it's going to get them rating. It's going to get them clicks.
Starting point is 01:19:45 It's going to get them engagement. Yep. I can talk about Biden putting a cap on credit cards for $8 or whatever the fuck it was that came out. Nobody's going to care. Nobody gives a fuck. I couldn't get them. He sent me a pair of it. I'm shit worth $6,000 now.
Starting point is 01:20:02 No. Resale value. $6,000, $3.99 flip. What else we got, Taylor? What else we got? Ooh, Trump AI with black people. Can somebody do me a favor? Damn, never mind.
Starting point is 01:20:16 He's sitting here. Oh, fuck. Wait, what? Supporters of Donald Trump created it and shared AI photos of him. See, the sisters are swirling into milk right now. It's not even real. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 01:20:30 Shut up. It's AI. You know what? They always had discredit in it, bro. They stole the election. This is not the internet is. It's not real, but it is real. It is real.
Starting point is 01:20:39 It is real. You know what I mean? It's not, but it is. You drop that. People will believe it. Absolutely. It's real. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:20:46 That is real. That's real. Why they always hate on Trump, man? Trump's going to be the nominee. Yeah, this motherfucker's going to win and they're doing nothing. I don't know if he's going to win. Who can beat him? Come on, bro.
Starting point is 01:21:04 I know. I really think it's a toss-up. I really do. Nobody's enthused about this election. Now, do I think that the bag of coaching? But here's the reason why the reason why I think he'll win because there's nothing that Biden is doing to get his base excited. Yeah, but I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:21:21 This is like a comeback fight. But both of them have to energize those independents and those swing voters come November. And how's Biden going to do that? I don't know. They got to figure that out. That's the biggest question. Only one person that could save him, bro. Who?
Starting point is 01:21:38 Hunter? No. Who? Stop. Come on. Who? Mike, bro. Man, shut up, man.
Starting point is 01:21:46 Who? I'm going to say she says she's not running. I'm not even feeding it in this. You know? Who, Michelle? Who are you talking about? I'm not feeding into this shit. Big Mike, no, big Mike, man.
Starting point is 01:21:56 Killer Mike? No, Big Mike. Kill a Mike. You like it? No, Big Mike. Big Mike could do it, bro. Let's do some asking idiots, man. Shult's got to be home to the baby.
Starting point is 01:22:06 You got 10 minutes. Do some asking idiots, Taylor. Somebody called the radio station this morning and said, Shalame, how come you don't never call out killer Mike for having a big back? Oh, yeah. What did you say to that? I said, he doesn't.
Starting point is 01:22:21 He's six foot four. He's lost a lot of weight, and he's more stomach than back. He is. He is more stomach, though. He is. The way he's built. He's more stomach. All right, let's take a break from this nut-ass episode to talk about DoorDash, man.
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Starting point is 01:25:00 What we got for asking idiots, Taylor? Taylor, asking idiot. Donnell, this is a segment where we ask answer audience questions. Okay. Oh, wow. Here's one. How the fuck they knew Donnell was here?
Starting point is 01:25:12 Abaka 7 says Who has a bigger Don't Shala or Donnell The one on top or Or underneath I got a big head Yeah Dona
Starting point is 01:25:23 I'm not Dono got a lot more skull What do you think he's got a bigger pee though So here's a go Here's a go You couldn't See here you go
Starting point is 01:25:31 Now I got a yo Who does have a bigger You know what But just who has a bigger peepee That's all I'm running up But why is that game It's just if you guys just measure them And dick, you don't think that's gay.
Starting point is 01:25:43 Well, only if you measure him with a guy's mouth. 50, 50, see what you did. You gave him the carriage. I'm just saying, try to have a dick off. A dick off, yeah. You guys can measure him with a girl's his vagina. Your logo is a dick. I don't understand why you get so upset when your logo is a dick.
Starting point is 01:25:59 Your logo is a dick. No, it's a microphone. No, it's not. It's a D and it's a R and it's a dick right in the middle of it. Listen, Ozo Nataro says, why does Donnell dress like that? All that money and he's wearing J.C. Penny clothes. Man, that's not. I like this fit, though.
Starting point is 01:26:15 Yeah, it's fine. And what's wrong with JCPenney? It's affordable. It's frugal. Yeah. Like, what's wrong with that? I don't even want to do the fit check. I'll just for somebody, enjoy your white tea. Good.
Starting point is 01:26:26 A. Mart 4 says, why is Charlotte sitting so far from Donnell? I am. I'm not sitting far from you. Like, we can touch knees. Woo, woo, woo. Oh, shit. Now we get somewhere. Spin it.
Starting point is 01:26:39 You got excited. Nice like this. Wish that rain jobs would fall. Hey, you know, that's crazy. Hey, yo. A man touches your knee with his leg and that's what you say? That's nothing.
Starting point is 01:26:51 That's notting. That's romantic. That song's about nothing. Okay. Oh, this is a good one. This is a good one. Donnell, you can answer this. Shadamain, you truly have too many white friends.
Starting point is 01:27:03 This day. You hit your minimum. I made this. You know. Because they don't have fun, Donnell. Which. Fun. All right.
Starting point is 01:27:13 You just gotta tell him no. Does Dave? But I don't know, Donnell. This shit showed us, it might be us. You gotta tell no. You gotta tell him no. You gotta tell him no. Oscar Savage on him.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Ooh, this is good. Mount Rushmore of comedy and radio. Ooh. Who's that? What's that? Mount Rushmore of comedy and radio. Donnell, you are very equipped to answer this question because you've done, you do both. You do both.
Starting point is 01:27:42 You did comedy. I mean, you do comedy and you've done radio. Mouse Mount Rashmer. That goes, that's a lot. It's just four and four, four comedy, four radio. Yeah. Tom Joyner. Yes.
Starting point is 01:27:53 Okay. Big boy. Okay. Okay. Breakfast Club. Damn. In a short period of time. Do I want to say, this might not be one of people appreciate, but Russ Park.
Starting point is 01:28:15 salute to Rush Bar No Howard No Howard, huh? No Howard, what? Stern. Can I get my Rushmore? This is a Black Mountain. Do your White Mountain over there.
Starting point is 01:28:26 What about comedy? Mount Rushmore. That's so subjective. This gets you... That's a tough question. That's a tough one. It's a tough. Richard Pryor.
Starting point is 01:28:42 Yeah. Dave Chappelle. Yep Eddie Murphy and stand-up Chris Rock I'm mad at that
Starting point is 01:28:59 shows what you got Mount Rushman and when I say that I'm talking about body of work with their impact yeah of course and the world
Starting point is 01:29:06 okay radio Howard Charlotte I like big boy I really like big boy I'm mad at big boy did I not say big boy You did. You did. I really like Big Boy. And then, um,
Starting point is 01:29:24 hmm, what did you say? Wow, Wendy. No, you know what? Yeah, not Wendy. Not Wendy for me. I just didn't listen to her. I didn't, I didn't really listen to her. Wow, this is, this is tricky. This is tricky. Um, hmm. Yo, who is the, hmm. Man, that, this is tough. This is this is tough. Yeah, you three, and I'm trying to think if there's like a, there's a sports radio guy that, oh, Stephen A. Smith.
Starting point is 01:29:59 Stephen, oh, that's a good one. Because Stephen A is, is radio. Good one. Okay. You got comedy. Patrice, Chris, Chris, Rock, Dave, and, man, it's Eddie, and then I want to honorable mention Daniel Tosh.
Starting point is 01:30:18 But those are my Those are my That's Mount Rushmore Comedy I got Chris Rock Um George Carlin
Starting point is 01:30:31 Um Chris Rock George Carlin Damn It's crazy I didn't I didn't grow up watching prior That's the thing
Starting point is 01:30:43 I watched Eddie first Me neither I got Eddie I got Eddie Chris Rock George Carlin Eddie I don't know who the fourth one would be though I got Chris Rock, Carl, and Eddie.
Starting point is 01:30:56 I don't know who the fourth would be. I really don't. Give me five more years. Five more years. I mean, see, that's the problem, right? Everybody that I really, really like is from this new era. And, yeah. And so it's like everybody's still growing, so you don't want to put, even you, Don,
Starting point is 01:31:12 you don't want to put y'all on the Mount Rushmore yet. Yeah, I don't even care about that. You know? So I got to stick with FIFA Radio for me. It's Tom, Joanna, Howard Stern. Pedy Green, Wendy Williams, honorable mention Angie Martinez. No, Angie's one, too, that I... Goat.
Starting point is 01:31:31 Yeah, Angie's one, too. Goat. Okay, final question. Donnell, between Chalemey, Andrew, and DJ Envy, who would you fuck, marry, or kill? Are you going to take my present? Thank y'all for having me on the show. Is that the end of it?
Starting point is 01:32:00 That was the one. You don't want to answer the question? That was the one. Go see a new day on Netflix right now. Go watch it. Donnell's a new day. Thank you. Congratulations on the baby.
Starting point is 01:32:12 Congratulations. The top, Donnell. Oh my God. Oh my God. Took my gift. Took my candle, bro. Oh, yeah, we ate that shit up. As always, if you listen to the podcast,
Starting point is 01:32:23 you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, yeah, right. But if you think we're, right. But if you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right to. It's the Brilliant Idiots podcast. Thank you for listening.

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