The Brilliant Idiots - A Star Is Born (Feat. Star Brim)

Episode Date: August 22, 2019

This week Star Brim sits in with CThaGod and Andrew and talks about growing up in Brooklyn, being in locked up, life lessons she's learned, how she became friends Cardi B, Humble the Poet drops in too, and more!!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Fucking nervous over. Good. Nerves are good. I think nerves push it. I start feeling like I'm a, you know, like I'm caged in and I got to attack. Good. Attack is good.

I think it brings out your... You're insane. You got to be like that. Yeah, but you know. Your survival instincts. I'm still on jail mode. Good. Sholamaine the guy.

Andrew Shultz. We are the brilliant idiots. And we don't have no pre-roll. No. So you might as well start with the church announcements. Where are you going to be at, Schultz? Chicago this weekend. Okay.

We'll be a Thalia Hall theater. Fo Show sold out. Thank you all Next weekend We're back in the city And then we're going to Moscow Russia Pray for us

You're going to Russia? Yeah we're going to do Sean Russia Wow That's going to be wild Man You call your boy Trumpy

To make sure you get the Red copy Come on dog You know Put in India The Ampor Collusion And then we got

Australia The 20th To the 29 You should get a no collusion shirt to wear in Russia I said I'm wearing a rocky

shirt on stage You know that I'm like Come on man We got to make these viral moments

Listen We got Australia Get them tickets for Australia You're going to Australia too Yeah I'm going to go the 20th to the 29th The fucking internet is the motherfucker It's the best Jesus Christ

It's the best It's the best You know it's a funny I was talking to somebody this morning Because me and them did something And you know YouTube is always the play for me I just think like why not

I'd rather call YouTube And connect with them And let them do a big You know Beyonce Coachella roll out He's like nah let's go to a network And I'm like for what? For what? Like, why?

The reason I was able to start touring internationally is because of your influence internationally. You had this breakfast club was the beginning of brilliant days, but breakfast club was like the source for hip-hop information internationally. Like hip-hop is the biggest popper music in the world. So when they would go every day to find, you know, news about hip-hop, London, Amsterdam, I mean like Oslo, all these places,

they would go there for it. And then when we started doing idiots, it exposed me to all these, you know, fans that were around the world. We've done the podcast in London. Bro, in early. We did it early. There we go. But it is on YouTube. It's on YouTube.

Same show of my stand-up. That's what happened. It's just, it just went crazy. I tried to walk around the mall in South Africa. Not happening. Like, oh. All right. And they found you around other black people.

Yes. You know what you go to Africa is always somebody that looks like you. They're like, no, that's him. That's actually him. But now, I salute to the internet, man. It's the game-changing. Now, we have a young lady in the building right now. You may know her.

You may not know her. If you follow Cardi B, I'm sure that you know her. Cardi B has a best friend. Her name is Star Brim. Now, is it five-star Brim or just Star Brim? It's just Starram. What does Starbrem mean? It means my name is Star and I'm blood.

Wow. Okay, I didn't know it. Oh, that's right. The Star is the sign for... Brim is the same. I'm in. Oh, I don't know that. Star is blood.

I thought that's why, like, bloods have that, like, tattooing them. No, five point star represents blood, but Star is my name. Like, my name is Star. Like, regular, everybody calls me Star. Really? Yeah.

And Brimba's, like, slang for blood. Yeah, for the my blood set. My blood set. I'm gonna be honest with you, the prettiest blood I've ever seen in my life. They'd be looking hurt out here, right? Right. The bitches be looking bad.

Am I allowed to curse? Yeah, of course. So, yeah, the bitches be looking bad. They'd be looking like they went through the, Worst of life. How does a beautiful young lady like you become a blood? First of all, where you're from?

I'm from Brooklyn. You're from Brooklyn. I'm from the floors. Okay. All right. So how does a beautiful lady like you become a blood? I had to fight five niggas.

That's how I became. No, I'm just... Wait a minute. We can get to the process of how you actually got jumped in later. Oh, I'm so excited, guys. You don't even know. I'm about how I became.

I'm about to take off my sandals. That's the process. What was your upbringing like is what I mean? Okay, so basically, from the outside looking in, I had a really good upbringing. I went on a whole bunch of vacations. You know, I was always fly. I had the newest everything.

But I came from like an abusive mom where when she drank, she got abusive. But it will only be that one day out the week. It's not something that she did every day. So it was like me being young, being like five, six years old. After a while, I realized, okay, Fridays. Stay out. That's the day to hide because that's the day she's going to come in

and she's going to whoop your ass. Like, you understand for no apparent reason. So I didn't realize until I went to jail, why I turned blood? One day my lawyer was looking at me. He's going through like the files and everything. And he's like, you had a good upbringing. Like you didn't have, you know, food stamps.

You didn't have welfare. Why the fuck did you turn this? And I'm like, no. You know, like, I don't fucking know. I've been in since 12. Like, I've been blood since 12 years old. I didn't even know how to wash my ass correctly at 12. So I'm looking like, I don't know.

One day I'm reading all the letters that my peoples have to write to the judge to explain the type of character I am. So I'm reading my sister's letter. One of my oldest sisters, she's 10 years older than me. So we didn't even grow up in the same household. By the time I was 10, she was 20 and out of here. So I'm reading it and she got abused too And this whole time I didn't know By your mom

By my mom Okay But only Friday's right Only Fridays So this whole time I didn't even know that My sister was going through The same shit as me

Like you feel me So she basically was telling the judge Like I feel so bad I feel like I abandoned my sister And I left her You know to my mom Knowing what you know Once we leave

It's gonna go pass on to the next one And pass on to the next one And I didn't even know that And then I'm like Maybe that's why I went to the street Because I was getting my ass beat at home You wanted to send the family. And since I couldn't beat my mom, I'm going to beat these other bitches up outside.

Like, you understand? Like, that's just how my mentality was. I used to sit there and really like, all right, next person who hit the corner, I'm going to fuck her up. And I used to have no excuse and I used to just beat the bitch up. But you was redistributing faith. Yeah. Basically.

Like, and I didn't realize that until now being older. Like, just last year, I'm 28 now. And I've been blessed since I was 12. And just last year, I realized why did I even really turn this? Like, I've been in for so long. I never even questioned why did I go to the street. You're seeing these girls that you're beating up, right? And you must know that you're more attractive than them.

It wasn't all the times that I was attracted to them. No, more attractive than them. Jesus Christ. I'm like, I wasn't attracted to all of them. I only beat up a couple and ate them out, but it's just a couple. All right? Definitely not gay. Come over here, honey, let me make you feel better.

I have to fight for my pussy in jail. So let me just put that out there that I am not. I want to get into that. Don't get to all of that. Let's start. Get the orange story out of the way. Like, fighting someone that's way uglier than you have so much more to lose. Did you ever calculate that?

I didn't care at stuff like that. Like, when I was young and I was cutting these bitches face open, I didn't give a fuck if I got my face cut open. Like, I was a tomb boy at that time. I didn't have nothing to live for. So you came into yourself and you came into your attractiveness later in life. You didn't even see yourself as attractive at that young age. No, I didn't see myself as attractive.

And any guy that I used to talk to when I look at pictures and I think of all the guys I used to talk to back then, I used to be like, these motherfuckers is gay. because I was like boy boyish You were a safe expression of gay I was my boy You were a beard For you to be attracted to me You really want a nigga

You really want a nigga Yeah You don't really want to fuck me You want a guy But you know I'm here You might have felt that way Because of the abuse from your mom So maybe you just didn't feel pretty

But maybe you was fly I bet you if I look at your old pictures Like nah I was fly when it comes to like But I was not fly No you wouldn't want to fuck me No Yeah, yeah, you weren't sexy.

I was not sexy. I was not sexy. I was in a track. I was cutting bitches. I was putting like... What's that like? I used to cut someone's face open. I used to be so scared. It's easy. It's easy?

I got one for you if you need it. No, no, I don't want... I just, what is that feeling like? Because I cut myself shaming. I need to, you didn't hear a tuna can. I need to hear... What did you do? Wait, what did you say about a tuniccan?

Okay, so listen, what I used to do, right? So I'm like, you know what? I'm like, you know what? I'm like, you know what? schools for beating bitches up with locks in a sock So this is what I'm gonna do. This is me at 13 years old Dumb as fuck. Like you feel like me I'm gonna put a tuna Tuna fish can in a sock and I'm a be hub with that

And when the principal asked me why I had it, this was my lunch. I didn't think about bitch how you don't have a can opener You know you don't have no manor? You don't have none of that. No mayonnaise. So when I got caught with the tuna fish can They're like what the fuck is this? I'm like it was my lunch and they're like So how you was gonna open it? Lunch lady. How was how was you gonna open this to eat it? You're really going to tell us that?

And that's the story I'm sticking to. It's lunch. So you beat a shoddy down with a tuna fish can? Yes. That's amazing. Can you imagine getting beat down on a... I beat a guy up with a tuna fish can too because I used to get fucked up by guys all the time and I never used to want to accept it.

So every single time I got beat up by, you know, a boy, being young, I just went and got a tuna fish can or a lock or some, you know, pennies. And I came back and just ragged their ass and it's like I won now, you know? Who was the boys you was beating up? Like, guys you was dating or just dudes in general was trying you? It was just, like, I'm a gang member. I'm saying that I'm being hardcore as the niggas. So I had to gain respect because I'm not getting respected.

So it's like, all right, I'm going to gain it. I'm so glad they gentrified Brooklyn. Thank you, white people. What the fuck? I'm actually concerned because we might have just brought more tuna. How did you get money when you was young? Because you say you was buying all of this stuff and you was always fly. Like, where was that money coming from?

Mom and my dad was like, they take care of me. Like, I didn't, I didn't never, like, hustle or, you know, sell drugs when I was younger and stuff like that. Like, no, it was my pops used to give me $100 as a weekly expense from young. And then I used to just be saving it. Like, I used to be the trick. I used to be tricking on my niggas and everything. Like, I used to be the one with the money. So it's like, I used to just save it up, save it up.

Like, and my pops knew because I was, like, so much tomboyish, he spent a lot of more money on me when it comes to fashion because my little sister just liked the pretty things. You understand? So you could take her any, like, little girly store. And she just liked the little girly cheap stuff. stuff with me. I feel like since I'm a tomboy, I got to have true religions, you know, and stuff like that. I got to have the name brand boy stuff. You other fucking with Rainbow. No. Or pretty girl. When did you, when did you become who you are now? Like, when did you start to embrace your femininity and, because I don't find you as a

masculine woman when I walked in here. I thought you were, you got to talk to me with Bob with some gang shit. Well, the second you said, connoissee said, you told you she beat people down with a tuna can. Bro. Right. Even that involves. I know we got this old gender role shit going on. Charlema, you have to think that involves cooking a little. You know what I mean? Like that is, it's grocery. It's feminine things going on here. Okay, I think, okay, so when I was young, right, guys, I didn't lose my virginity.

I was like 17. Right. That's good. Yeah, that's good. I'll wait it. Because I remember getting my titty sucked at like 13, 14 in the classroom of, you know, in the closet of the classroom. And I'll come out. I tell all my friends like, oh my God, I just got my titty sucked.

And they like, bitch, we fucking. Like, fuck is you talking about? And I'm looking at them like, you're fucking? Like, wait, dicking you? Like, you for real? How it feel? Like, you understand? Like, I'm asking all these questions.

I didn't start developing to late. But I used to get so upset because I feel like all the guys around me used to be like, Star, you're too aggressive, you too. You know, you need to slim down. You need to, you know, be more feminine. So when I started sitting here dressing girly and stuff like that, I'm a thought now. So it's like, wait, when do I win? Because when I'm sitting here and, you know, I'm a boyish, I'm too aggressive. but now that I'm dressing girly, I'm a thight, and I didn't even get no dick yet.

Like, you understand? Like, how my thight and I don't even know how dick feels? Like, who do you? I don't want to brag about that kind of shit. So if I, like, all the girls I fingered in high school would go tell lay other home girls like, yo. Yeah, we tell. Unless we feel like they're going to judge, you know, but like, yeah, I was excited. Like, it felt good.

Like, I was excited. I need this to tell somebody this. I can't tell my mother, like, you know, like who I'm going to tell somebody. Why didn't it teach you the Brooklyn kid that you was just in the closet with a guy? It was mad. Listen, isn't it so funny? They didn't know. And we used to, like, find classrooms that used to be open and we used to cut in it.

Like, you know, so we'll finally, like, we'll go through every classroom and try to jingle every lock and be like, oh, this one is open. We ain't here for today. Like, you know, and shit like that. So they didn't know, but the other bitches was fucking while I was just getting my titty suck. In the closets?

Yeah. Wow, they probably was fucking teachers. What did your father and mother do? Um, my mom worked for, as a nurse at one point, and she worked for the New York Tolls. Now she doesn't work nowhere because, you know, all the New York toes is shut down. And my father owns a construction company.

So he's just been owning that since I was young. Before I was born, he owned a strip club. Now, this is amazing because, listen, they always say that, you know, we turn to life to crime or we get into gangs because there isn't no parents in the house. You know what I mean? Somebody didn't have their father there. They didn't have their mother there. You had both in the house. I have both and they're still together to this day.

Wow. But one thing I did notice is that when I was in jail, every single person, I don't give a fuck of you, was white or purple. every person been through something whether you was touched whether you came from an abusive family whether your family had so much money but you wasn't getting no type of real love like nobody was really effective like you know affectionate and stuff like that everybody like even the white people

that was in jail that wanted to you know be your privilege I could just tell when I used to ask them about their stories you know and stuff like that or sad or they're so privileged but you never get into business this your family not even coming up here but you got an account like you feel me loaded with money you got $8,000 loaded with money but you're not getting no mail.

You know, nobody's answering your phone calls when you call. And it's just, that's it. What's more important? People come in to visit you and then taking that time to write you letters and answer your calls? Are people keeping your commissary full? I feel like to me, I would say people come in, coming to visit you and stuff like that. Because at the end of the day, you get three meals a day in jail. Like, you understand?

And you can hustle. Like, you could always, oh, I'm going to make up your bed. If you know, you could get me a tuna pack. People learn how to do, you know, knit and crochet. You know, it's too. It's tuna. It's tuna. Tuna lady.

Okay, salmon. Let's say salmon. Tuna played a big role in your life. A big role. You know, I lived off a tuna in jail. But, so I would honestly say that because it keeps you out of trouble. You understand? If I know I got something looking forward to, if I know that, you know, I could call somebody.

Like, I used to be on the phone and I used to hear bitches next to me begging for $20. Like, do you know how that feels to hear her on the? phone like please dad please please 20 I just need to you know what the fuck $20 could do nothing it can't do nothing for you in jail nothing like $20 literally is shit like on a bad month I spent like $6, $700 in jail every month really start giving tax more money every month every month commissary is 320 right for you to sit here and do your commissary that's how much you could spend for the month $320 so if you sit here so now each phone call is $15 and that's only for five minutes.

It's $15 for five minutes. And then if you want, listen, then if you want 15 minutes, you got to calculate that. So imagine how much you're spinning on the phone. Then if you want the texting service, like to, you know, do texting and do true links and stuff like that from the computer,

each true link, I think, is like $3 or something like that or $2. You know, so it adds up. Me, I'm sitting here wanting to text everybody. I want to write everybody. I want to use the phone. I'm running out of minutes. You only get a certain minutes a month.

You understand? I'm putting money on your account because now I want to use your phone, bitch. and I want to use, I want new sweatpants this month. I want to live like I'm in the, outside. You understand what I want new sneakers. Instead of one sneakers, I want to put money in your account because I want two sneakers this month.

Like, you know, it's just certain stuff like that. So how do you get that money? Are you getting it inside prison? No, me. I'm seeing, I would have my mom sent it to somebody. Yeah. Okay, so your mom is on the outside and she's taking care of you.

Yeah, but I used to hustle in there. I used to sit there and get some makeup brought in and I used to sell that shit because these bitches love makeup. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I can't tell you my source.

But I thought that you had, I thought you could only have a certain amount of makeup. I didn't know you could have makeup in jail at all. Yeah, you could have makeup in jail. Y'all didn't see my pictures. I was looking beaut. Why would you have makeup? I was looking, what do you mean?

Who are you trying to impress? Me. You want to feel good. For me. I think to feel like I'm still alive. I'd be wanting to walk around jail looking dead like you and you and you. Like, no. You done it did 15 years.

You're looking horrible. I need to look like I'm here. Like, I don't got life. I'm coming home. You know you're coming home. No, for real. Absolutely. Absolutely.

I need to make sure my shit is still sharp by the time I walk out. Like, no, I need makeup. I need lip cloths. I need eyelashes. You had fake eyelashes. You smuggled fake eyelashes into prison. And hair glue so that it could get on.

Yes. Wow. Okay? Needed the hair glue. The CEO of the shit don't say nothing to you? How did I know? I'm doing it. Why don't tell it?

Because one day you got eyelashes, one day you don't? No, but the thing is it's like this too. You can, like hey, not eyelashes, but you can make makeup. Like, you understand. You can use coffee and water and make makeup. You can use, like, Kool-Aid and Vaseline to make lip gloss. Like, you know, so it's like, you don't know what the fuck we're doing. We're creative.

Like, you understand? I know how to sit here and make a pot using just my bottom of my cell bunk. Like, you know, like, I sit here, you cut a wire. You put them two wires together. They get hot. You put that on. That's how you make real cheese, tortillas. Right.

Like, I know how to gel. You know, like, they don't know what we're making? You know what's so whack about that? Why don't they just let y'all have farming, right? Like, what's the problem? They'll just hit each other with them. You know, upstate they have hot pots, but not in the feds. You don't want them hitting each other with the farmers.

Like in upstate, when you go to like upstate prisons and stuff like that, they give you like a little hot pot so, like, and you could sit there and really make real meals because you have a little hot pot. It's like a stove. You could boil water with it or something? You could do all that. But they give you both. So in the feds, they used to have microwaves.

That's how you used to be able to make your food. They took all the microwaves away. So now all we have is 108 degrees of water. So that's how we make everything. Everything is. willing water. So I could make curry chicken and rice and all this other stuff just with hot water. So you came out of

prison and you were like a full beautician. Yeah. Like you learned how to do it ground up. I know how to do it scratch. Like I could make some shit. You know what so dumb about that though? Think about your perception in life, right? Like you walk down a grocery store out, you see some coffee,

you think coffee. Yeah. Star walks down, she sees makeup. She's usually blush. And you could use coffee to make your hair grow. Like this. Yeah. like this. Yeah, I'm telling y'all. Break that down. I'm telling you.

I'm telling me, I don't want to break it down because I don't like these boyheaded bitches. You feel me? They don't give me credit. So I can't tell everything. I can't tell everything. But if you go on my page, you can see, I got hang time.

I ain't get this for no reason. You don't want to give them the coffee grain secrets? I'll be telling them, y'all going to keep y'all no edges because at the end of the day you're ungrateful. So I ain't giving y'all bitch's edges. I ain't giving y'all. What did you do?

They're laid. They're laid. I got that right. That was pretty good. We're going to do a jail beauty book. Remember Prodigy came out and he did that jail cookbook? We're going to do the jail beauty book. But how do you lay the edges while you're in prison?

What do you use for that? They sell gym. They sell edge control. Oh, they do? Yeah. So that's one thing they will not have. Yeah, they sell edge control. They sell like cover girl makeup that's from like 18 years ago that's expired and dried out

that you got to add some water and shake up a few times and let overnight and sit. They have lipstick that is gone. Like, you know, they have old shit. Like, even like honey buns, you know, that I was busting down, they're old. They're expired. They was like stale? Yeah, but I'm fine with that. What you do, warm it up and make it a little soft, wet it a little bit?

We don't got no microwave, but all I did was put it inside of a plastic bag and dip it into that hot water and just let it heat up like that and then it got soft. Word. Listen, let's go back because you said you became a blood at 12. Yes. That's early as fuck. Yeah. I know. My daughter's 11.

Watch out for her. No. Yes. How do you become blood at 12? 12, like, dude, that is fucking 12. Like, who introduced you to the blood lifestyle? Okay, so as anybody know,

and Carnarcy is full of Crips, right? So I'm the opposite. Like, I never want to do what everybody else is doing. So it's like, fuck out of here. I'm not turning Crip. Like, that's what everybody's doing. Like, you understand, everybody in my neighborhood. So I was always fighting.

I was just always out there doing everything. So it was a guy who, you know, he's still around. But he used to always come to me like, yo, come on, start, turn blood, turn blood, like, no, kick rocks. Like, you feel? Like, you feel like? And then, eventually I got jumped two times.

And then eventually I'm like, you know, fuck it, let me turn this. Because at the end of the day, these Crip motherfuckers ain't going to keep jumping me. Like, you understand. Why were they jumping you if you wasn't blood, though? Because I didn't want to turn Crip either. And I used to always disrespect them. And I used to fight they bitches, you feel me? So it was just always a situation like that.

So I'm like, you know what? I'm going to turn the ops. You need a backup. And we're going to come for y'all asses. You know, so that's what I did. And then on top of it, you know, later on in life, I found out I didn't care about life. You know, I honestly really didn't care. And it was scary because I got that same mentality in jail.

fuck about nothing. I didn't care about anything. Like, I didn't care. Wherever you want to take it, we're going to take it. Whatever. When did you go to jail? What age? Just recently, I just went.

I've been back and forth to jail, but I just did time. Just, like, just recently. I just came home. Technically, I would like to say, the opposite of being in a gang is going to church. You know what I'm going to? Not going to an opposite gang. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right.

So. What was that? Christ. You got like, church? In school? Do you know how to school? I went to? I went to five junior high schools and five high schools,

three suspension schools. I've been to schools. You got kept getting kicked out? Yep. Yeah, I got kicked out. Superintendent suspensions, expelions. It's to the point where they said, you know what, just stay home because we don't got another school to send you to this.

The suspension school kicked you out now. Were your parents frustrated? Like, they sit here thinking that they're doing everything right, you know? Yeah, it was frustrated, but a lot of times, like, when I did fight, a lot of times was for friends. Like, you know, it wasn't really for me all the time. A lot of times I'm very defensive. I'm very defensive with my friends.

I feel like I own you. You understand? Like your mind, can't nobody fuck with you unless I fuck with you. Like I'm the only worst thing that can fuck with you. Can't nobody else do it, period. I don't get a fuck. How you feel? Like, you know, I take over your life now.

You ran by me. So it's like, you know, you just got signed to shignite and stuff like that. That's just how I feel when you become my friend. So a lot of it was because of that. A lot of it was because of my reputation. I would go to another school and I'd be like, listen, Ma, I ain't fighting. Nobody. Nobody.

I don't get a fuck. I ain't fighting. I'm chilling. But then is that person who feels like, oh shit, that's that blood bitch star. Oh yeah, I heard she tough. And as the girl who runs the school now feel like, nah, I got to make an example because it's my school. That bitch ain't going to be coming in here thinking, you know,

and stuff like that. Like, I will always have to fight because somebody else feels away of my past. Like, all right, I fought this bitch. I did this in the past. Now I'm in a whole other school. The school doesn't hurt about me. You know people in the school don't heard about me. Now I've got to sit here and fight again because another bitch fell away.

And it's like, you know, I'm with whatever. So I wouldn't lose a drawer. Are you good with your hands? You good boxer? What do you? how do you fight? I have more wins than losses. You do have more wins than losses?

What is your technique when you're going into a fight? Are you going to rip out hair? No, I'm definitely not going to rip out here. I probably punch you in the throat. Punch you in a throat. You know something like that, depending on how big you are. Like, you know, I'll punch you in your stomach,

bring you that down the size. You know, I'm... Right. I fight with boys. So, you know, like, I'm not with the hair pulling because I don't want my hair pulled and honestly, I'd be having more hair than them. So, like, why would I want to touch that?

Just don't touch that. Like, you feel what I don't touch this? So the first time you got jumped, you got to jump by guys? Yeah. Okay, explain that. Walk us through that. Um... You're in Canarsie.

I'm in Canarsie. Bonossi. You feel me? I'm in Bonasi. You heard the floss. You know what I'm in the floors and I'm just talking wild shit to these niggas as always. And like, I remember I used to talk shit to niggas like playing ball. I couldn't play ball.

But I used to be like, you're fucking trash. You can't even fucking playing. I used to be having no basketball shorts acting like I could play. You feel me? And I really couldn't play. And they used to just beat me to fuck up because it's like this bitch is talking too much. Like, you know, we're young, too, at the time, 13, 14. And they used to just jump me and just beat me up. And I used to be like, all right, I'm coming back. And honestly,

I used to just catch them, you know, them one by one sometimes. Hit them with, you know, the tuna and the sock, and it would just be lit for me. And then the second time you got jumped, was it the same guys? No, it used to just be different guys, but we all know each other. Like, it's so funny because the same guys that jumped me, I'm super cool with them. Like, we grew up around each other. Like, you know, I'm cool with them. It was just like, I was just getting jumped all the time by them, but we're cool. So when you became blood, what was your first act of revenge on those people who jumped you?

Oh yeah, we jumped them back. Really? Yeah. Immediately. You knew exactly who it was. Yes, and I knew what blocks they lived on and everything. Like, I remember one time,

one of the guys didn't want to come outside and I kidnapped his brother. Like, his brother was out, like, riding a little scooter and I'm like, come here, a little motherfucker. And I stood out there with the little nigger like, yeah, you're going to come for him, right? Little boy was like five.

He came outside. Get that ass up. Yeah, you jumped him. How many of y'all jumped him? I don't know. Probably like five, six, seven. Eight, nine, ten. What's the appeal of the blood lifestyle?

I'm not going to lie, it seems cool. Like, the language y'all used. You think so? Yeah, I'm talking about the way y'all talk. I don't feel like it, honestly, if I was 16 years old or 15 years old and stuff like that, I had my own mind, I would have never turned blood. I would have never turned blood. But you did it as an active survival, though.

I did it. Yeah, but I did it because I didn't know no better. Like, you understand, you're 12 years old. Like, who really knows anything really about life at 12? That's real. How old are you now? I'm 28. When you had to get in, were they still making people cut strangers' faces?

You know, so funny, that honestly was never true. That's just a lot of things is rumors. Really? Yeah, a lot of stuff like that is rumors and a lot of stuff that's starting that one person is doing or a group of five that's doing compared to thousands. You understand? It's like, how are you judging thousands because these five is doing that on Halloween or something like that? You know, like that was never.

Yeah, that was never true. Just like they say, you have to fuck to get in and stuff like that. Well, they say that about some female gangs. I thought that was a fraternity. These bitches is... No, no, no. I thought they do that a fraternity at that girl. No, these bitches is dumb if you really think that you're going to sit there and be a whole gang member.

Boss is sucking these niggas dick and fucking them. You understand? They're supposed to be your bros. Like, it's not even supposed to be none of that. Like, I never even did anything with anybody that's in the same. So that was my next question. What's the rule on hitting on the female members of the gang? There's none of that.

Shunned upon? You don't touch. It's none of that. You're not supposed to, not in the same. No. What does that mean? Like, anybody that's in mind. Yeah, you're set.

Yeah, my set? You're not supposed to be flirting with another one. That's your bro. Like, you understand? It's supposed to be your brother, your sister. What kind of shit we're doing over here? So there's a family dynamic that a lot of these people want to maintain. Like me, I had a good family, but there's a lot of girls and a lot of guys that have nothing.

So it's probably valuable to them to have that. For comfort, for money-wise. Like, you understand, we do like a little thing where we collect money every month, like a little $10. So, you know, if you're hungry or your kids don't have no sneakers this month. Or, you know, just buying her a stroller for her. baby or, you know, just simple things like that. Like, um, just the other day, one of these girls got into her fight with her cousin and we built her out.

Like, you know, like, you know, so it's just little things like that. It's a sense of community. Do you guys ever have, like, a mission? I'm just thinking of being, like, a female gang member. Are you guys ever, like, about to go on a mission where you're going to, like, jump somebody or something like that? But, like, you're, you got your period. And is that ever, like, a difficult thing for you?

No, nigga, that's blood for real, nigga. The fuck is wrong with you. All right? That's what the best. Blood in, blood out. But like you're like, I cramping, I can't go. No excuses. Never.

It's no excuses. Aye, y'ye. You still say you was cutting people's faces, though. No excuses. That was just for fun? You know, I cut the face. You only get one face. Sometimes they was bigger than me.

And at that point in time when I was younger, bitch, I ain't taking no losses. You know, like now I don't mind taking a loss because I have so many wins. But they was bigger than me. And it's like, bitch, I don't know if you're going to cut my face. Like, so I'm going to cut yours first. What have you learned about humanity from this? Like, you seem to have realized that, like, if you take it to an extreme that even someone bigger than you and stronger than you will recognize they don't want to go to that extreme as well.

Is that the reason why you'll hit someone to the tuna can or cut their face? No, at that point in time, I just wanted to win. That's it. Right. Right. Yeah, like, I just want to win. Right. And sometimes when I was younger, I feel like it's because I was angry.

You understand? So it was like I was really, really angry. Like, I'm not angry no more, but I felt a long time for years. Yeah. For years. It took jail for me not to be angry. Did you still go to therapy or counseling in jail or something? No, but the judge is required by federal parole that I go to a psych every week now.

You should. That's good. Oh, God. I haven't spoken to her. Just do it. I go to therapy every week. I just go there. So all you needed, I promise you.

You got trauma that you haven't dealt with from your mom. And great stories. Cutting people. I'm here because I have no choice. What about the young man, a woman that's walking around Brooklyn with a scar and their face of bucks sick because of you. That's where you fucked up at. You're right. Okay.

Like, move up. You're right. That's your fuck up. Do these people forgive you now when you see them? I don't even know. Listen, it's so much people that I didn't do stuff to that I don't even remember half of the time. So I'm always like edgy and on point. Like I don't smoke.

I never smoked. I never drank in my life. Like you understand? And so it's like I'm just always, because it's like I used to pee in bottles and throw it on Crip niggas. It's just so much stuff that I used to do that. It's like, listen, you might be that person.

Now, let me tell you something. You might have made one of those Crip dudes day. This is how I know. You're probably walking around, you canarsie like, man, I hope one day start pisses all over me. This is how I know. Lemon Gatorade. You got a lot of trauma and you got a lot of pain

because you said you weren't even drinking or smoking. So to do that type of violent shit just because you had shit in you that you wanted to get out. Yep, I never smoked, I never drank to this day. Wow. Never popped a pill, nothing. Really?

Yep, nothing. So you got jumped at 12, you got jumped in. If you tried smoking, I think that could help. I really didn't. No, no. I don't know, I just find it, it looks dirty on girls because I find after a while for certain females, they start looking smoked out. You know, so it's like. No, not crack.

No, not talking about crack. I talk about weed. That's what I'm saying. I'm like it. Let's look around the run. What woman here is a smoker? Just look around. It looked like those over there

Like they take edibles. Yeah. So you had to fight at 12 Did you get jumped in? What happened? Yeah, I fought at 12 to get jumped in. I fought again later on because different hoods.

Like, I just fought a lot. No, I want to know how you became blood because you had to say, it's not getting jumped in. Yeah, I had to fight. Who you had to fight? I had to fight three benches. Damn. Were they good fighters?

Yeah. They fucked you up? No. You was 12 star. Yeah, but like I didn't get, like, I didn't have no black eyes, you know, and stuff like that. Like, they did what they needed to do. Like, they got me in there. But it's like, if I don't have no black eyes and busted lips and I'm not bleeding, it's like, you didn't jump me good.

Like, you understand? Like, I didn't get fucked up. So when is the fight over? Like, how did they know, okay, enough's enough, she's in there? We know. That's a secret. You're not supposed to do? Yeah, it's a secret.

Oh. Unless you want to turn blood. No, I'm always down. I'm too old to be your blood. It's okay. I'm not one of these guys that get in the industry. No. You're sure?

You can age out of that life. How do you feel about all these rappers and singers and shit that turn blood at 70? Yeah. I feel like they're low lives. But it's so funny because I just be looking at them like, really? Like, I've just been doing this my whole life. You now want to be blood? You now want to be in a gang?

Like, what's going on with you? Like, what's up with you? Like, obviously I have to be some trauma because I know why I turn it with some trauma. So what are you missing in yellow? life that you're trying to avoid with this or are you trying to be funny because it's like you're not even bothering nobody I'm unbothered by it I don't lose no sleepover you just look like the idiot because it's like you're mad old yeah yeah they're saved money doing it maybe that now they have protection so instead of paying for protection every city they go to they're just like

yo I'm glad you're still paying you're paying one way or another even if you're part of the gang you still get they're paying one way or another if you look around look at them niggas from before and look how they look now they look different what do you mean oh so you mean like the stress in the... No. Look at the tire. Oh, yeah. Look at the jury on them. You know what I'm saying?

It's, it's, um... They're getting paid. We're talking about the blood dudes. I'm talking about, yeah, any blood dudes or any crypt dudes that wasn't around, you know, a person that's famous. Right. And they're around famous people now. Oh, got you, got you, got you. They're getting paid one way or another.

Like, they're not, they're not just sitting there for free. They're just protection. No, they're getting clout. They're getting their attia is totally different now. They're not looking like a bum. They got Rolex is on. You understand. Like some way somehow, they're getting paid.

How much does it cost to, like, rent some bloods? There's no, there's no such thing as that. Why? What's up? You want to turn? No, no, I don't want to turn. I'm just... You got beef?

No, beef or nothing. I'm just saying, like, for protection. You know what I mean? Like... I'll protect you after. You got me? I got you. Oh, my Lord.

It's going to be a price, though. Say what? Nothing is for free. It's a price. What if I give you, like, some fresh trout? No. I mean, tuna. Tuna.

I'm like, it can't beat a bitch with trout. You know, you scoffed at trout. You're like, I need a more refined fish than trout. I got an albacore. Tuna, what are you talking about? You don't got the albacore? I need to take you to Japan, get you some sushi, dude. The real tuna?

You would lose your mind. You would lose your mom. No, it's over. At what point did you forgive your mom? I forgave my mom, I think, at like 14 when she can't put her hands on me no more. Like you understand

Like I stopped Yeah I stopped I stopped You understand So I felt like You bugging sis Like I'm in these streets Doing a whole bunch of crazy shit

And I'm coming home Still getting my ass with Like I'm a whole motherfucking gang member And you understand So it's like Uh-uh You ain't gonna be putting your hands on me

No more And you know It stopped She still drinks Like you know But it's like It's not abusive drink It's not her getting out

It's you know She still drinks Like you know Once every week and stuff like that, but it's not to that point. And my little sister never had to deal with it. She's seen it happening to me, but any time my mom would try to go to my life,

I would protect her. Like, you understand, I would get on her. Like, you understand, I would get the kicks to the back and stuff like that because it's like, you ain't touching minds. You understand, I always had that mentality from young. And I guess, like, I remember the psychiatrist told me that's maybe why I'm always so protected

of people, like friends. Because I was protecting my sister at six years old, seven years old, seven years old, jumping on her. You understand, making sure that you're not hitting her because oniaka her. Do you think that she was saved some emotional stress because of that? Like does she not share your trauma? I don't feel she shares my trauma,

but I feel like in a way she does in a way because she drinks a lot. Your sister? My little sister drinks a lot. Okay, so I'm 28. She's 25. She doesn't see she drinks a lot, but I see it because I'm watching you. And the thing is, my little sister is the complete opposite of me. She's not, you know, streetwise, she's not like that.

But when she drinks, she's me. Ah. Like war me Like she's war ready So she suppresses it when she's sober When she's drunk it comes out She's pushing people for no reason Going up to people just want to

And it's like I don't even do that Like you're wilding like I had to tell Like yo you bugging the fuck I was wrong with you Like we're gonna have to get into a whole brawl in here Because your drunk ass don't know how to control yourself Like it gets She gets Turns into a beast

Did you ever get to the root of your mom's trauma Like why she was drinking so much And beating on y'all Okay so listen when I first When I came home right I sat there halfway house and I told my mom my mom was there and one of my sisters, the same sister

from, she came up from North Carolina. So I looked at them and I said, listen, Ma, let me tell you something. I forgive you. I forgive you. Like, I forgive you for everything. Like, I know that you went through stuff in your life. I know that you got touched

and you never wanted to tell me. Like, you understand? I know that, you know, your mom died when you was, you know, by yourself, you didn't have no father, you don't have no family members. I know all this. Like, you understand?

Don't worry about how I know, but I know my mother just started breaking down crying. Like, she just couldn't even, like, control herself. But I felt like she needed to hear that I'm not mad at you. Like, you understand? Like, I'm not mad at you at all. Like, I know that you might feel that you feel it as a parent because, you know, all the stuff that is like, yeah, I'm a gang member, but I did pretty good for myself. Like, you understand?

So forgiveness worked for you. Charlemagne doesn't believe in forgiveness, but you think it worked. I'm working on it. I don't, yeah. Like, I don't forget it, you understand? And I know where it brought me. I know, like, in a way it's like, damn, if I wasn't a gang member, where would I be right now? You know, I'd be thinking about stuff like that, but then it's like I don't regret anything.

Like I would do it all over again. Like, even me down to scamming. If you right now, I will go and do that again. You know why? Because I have so much stuff that I got out of that, that is still here. That is not being taken away that I would not have been able to get working a regular 9 to 5. Like, I want this shit. Like, you know, I'm Nigerian, are you?

Like, no, I'm Guyanese. Okay. So, um, I feel like I had to tell her. Like, you know, like, I forgive you for everything. Like, I found out that my mom had got touched when she was younger. I found out that my mom's mom started doing crack, you know. And I think my mom had an argument with her mom right before she died. Because my mom used to, my grandmother, I never met her.

My grandmother used to fuck with a guy. This was her husband. And at that, you know, at that time, he was doing crack. And he was using a needle. And I guess he used somebody's dirty needle. And he caught AIDS. She had kidney failure. So she caught HIV from it.

And because she had kidney failure and her immune system wasn't good, she died right away. And I think her and my mom had an argument right before that. So I don't think she was able to. You know, to tell her mom, like, I'm sorry or, you know, I forgive you, or I didn't mean no, you know, those harsh things. So that's just been sitting on her forever. And I realized that too, because anytime my mom used to beat my ass, she's like, you look like your motherfucking grandmother. Like, you know, and then walk away. And it's like, my grandmother, don't you love your mother?

The fuck. That's what I'm thinking when I'm young. Like, don't you love your mom? Like, what the fuck is wrong with you? You beat me because I look like my grandma? Like, kind of weird, are you? Yeah. And then it's like, it's trauma.

Like, you know, like, who am I to judge? I've never been touched. Yeah. I never been touched. Like, you understand, in the gang world, it's been attempted. Guys had tried to rape me at one point in time, but I have never been touched. You know, I have never been touched by family member. Yeah, like, I had guys get drunk, you know, and feel like they could overpower me and stuff like that, gang members.

That's no longer, they're no longer with me. But at that time, they was. Like, you know, like, I put my life on the line for these niggas and these are the same niggas that tried to touch me. But I could never understand my mom's view of things. Like, you know, like, I can't, I don't care what it is. I could never understand the entire. But you understand abuse, though? Yeah, I can't understand abuse, but I can't understand, like, I don't even, I don't

know how deep it is. I don't know if it was my mom's friends, if they was always around. I mean, my grandmother's friends. I don't know if it was my grandmother's friends that was always around in the house. And, you know, I don't know if it was a family member of my moms, because, you know, back then a lot of family members would be touching you. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is.

Can you be vulnerable? Is it hard for you? I'm very vulnerable. Like, like, with a guy, someone that you like or you love, Are you capable of, like, not protecting them and being protected and, like, putting yourself in a situation where you can get hurt? Is that tricky for you? I don't feel I could ever not feel like I got to protect them. Like, even though they be tough, like, they don't be, you know, soft guys.

But it's a simple fact that I don't know. That's just, I don't know. I would never, I don't think so. I think that I'm going to always be on some, what happened? Who y'all talking to? Like, you understand, if a nigga was to come and press my day or, you know, I think I would be front and line with him. I don't feel like I'm going to be behind him. and I don't feel like I should be smack down in front of him

because you are me a nigga, like you feel like me protect yourself. But I know I'm gonna be right there, right, right beside you. What's up? What are we doing to him? I don't think that got nothing to do with being blood, though. I just think that's your nature. No, that's just me. I just feel like that's just me. No, no, I wasn't saying I had to do with the gang. I was just saying like you've been this protective force

for the people around you, right? You're a little sister and you've had this like immense responsibility at a young age, something that most people don't have to do at a very young age, right? Which is like to protect your loved ones. And then you enter this gang where you also feel responsibility to protect these people around you, right? And eventually, you know, you're going to, and I'm sure you've had relationships where part of a relationship is like you're both protecting each other, right?

Yeah. And like allowing somebody the ability or also the honors like to protect you. Like, hey, you don't need to hold it down. Like I'm going to take care of it. If something's wrong, you're pregnant. If you got a kid for nine months, you're not going to be able to do anything. Let me take care of you. Let me protect you.

Is that something scary for you? No, I don't think it's scary, but I don't think it's going to ever happen. Really? Like, I don't think, I don't really get into that much stuff for the person that I'm with to ever feel like, you know what, don't worry, I got this. Like, you understand? Like, I don't get into stuff that much. If I do get into stuff, it's because of me protecting somebody else. It's never really for me protecting me.

No, I don't mean, like, a violent thing. Yeah, you don't seem like an agitator. Yeah, like, it's never for me protected me. It's always for me protected somebody else or standing up for somebody else. But I don't mind giving him, you know, the will when it comes to certain things. But certain things is like, for a back. I got this. You know, like, chill out.

You don't even need to worry about it. What did you go to jail for? I went to jail for scamming this time. Okay. Credit cards? Yes. You said this time. How many times have you been to jail?

I've been to jail a few times. This is the time that I did the most time. All the other times I went to jail was violent. Like, you know, it was for fighting and stuff like that. It was my first white-collar crime. What was the longest sentence before this one? This was the longest. So before it was like weekends, a month?

Yeah, like a month, stuff like that. How much did you get in the scam? Allegedly I got $250,000 in scamming. A quarter million? Allegedly, I'm going to tell you something, though. I don't know if you did that, but I'm just going to give you a high five because if you're going to do it. Stop rewarding this. If you're going to take a penitency, I mean, if you're going to take a penitency, a chance, a quarter million dollars.

You think that's a lot? I mean, not now because I'm a millionaire, but a quarter million dollars. Say it with your chest. Say it with your chest. But a quarter million dollars in the street. And that ain't bad. Charlotte don't care about your little pennies. You love $250,000.

$25 a house. Hey, sis, that was cute, since, you gave you a little high five on that. Okay, so basically when I first... My commissary, fool. When I first got locked up, I didn't get locked up for gang shit. Like, you know, I got locked up. I mean, I didn't get locked up for scam. I got locked up for gang shit.

I basically, they basically wanted me to tell, you know? And since I didn't, they like, all right, bitch, since you're not going to tell on who's the big dog. And where's the murders and where's the gun? We're going to hit you with this. they hit me with $250,000 for scamming in Barneys, for taking $250,000 worth of stuff out of Barneys, and I didn't get a restitution of anything.

So it was basically bullshit. I don't have no stipulations. I don't have to take no... So you stole out of Barneys. Yeah, that was stupid. I thought you got cash. I didn't know you said. That is cash.

Oh, because you sell a clothes. So wait a minute. Who wasn't that got stopped in Barneys? Which Black lady? Didn't know? Didn't somebody Black get, like, stopped in Barneys where they were, like, asking, they were following around Barneys?

It wasn't a celebrity, though. It was like a kid. It was a kid. Yeah, yeah, it was a little kid. I forgot it. It was like a kid. No, it wasn't hurt. I didn't bring him in.

He didn't work for me. He didn't work for me. Like, last time we didn't follow it. Your boy must have been trash, though. I was like, you couldn't beat a boost in charge? You said what? I said your lawyer couldn't beat like a boosting charge? Because that was a shoplifting, right?

It was wire fraud, but I'd rather that than what they were trying to offer me for being a gang member. Oh, so they're trying to take D'Rico. Yeah. Oh, okay, okay, okay. So I'll take that any day. And how many years was it? My category was 21 to 27 months. The judge gave me 15 months.

I did 10 months, three months, halfway house, and then they took a month from me because I did something in jail, so I had to be in a box for five months. What are you doing jail? Allegedly they said I cut somebody. But you know, I don't do that no more. Yeah.

Yeah. I know. Why would they think you cut somebody? I don't know. You start. A righteous person like you? It's everybody. It's because I'm black.

She said you did it? It's definitely because I'm black. I think it's right. She said you did it? Yeah, but I think it was mistaken identity. You know, I looked like a lot of people in jail. We all look alike. We're all black, so I think you should have somebody else.

It's one type of makeup. It's very easy to get people mixed up. It's that coffee makeup. A lot of bitches was wearing a bun. You know, I wear them on the line. So, you know, I was putting a lot of bitches with their buns, making them look cute. You know, a little cute one with their buns and shit.

And it was just like, you know what? Now, hypothetically, because we know you would never do this, if you had to cut somebody in jail, what would it be for? it would be for them trying to take this pussy That means somebody trying to rape you, yes It would be for you trying to steal for me They were trying to take your pussy

Oh yeah, I did I had that, yeah I had a bitch trying to take my pussy How? Okay, so you got a pen? Do you got a pen? Listen, they really want Let me get a pen.

Taylor, give me a pen. Somebody hand me a pen. Wait, you're going to write? What are you going to write? I don't know. I need a pen. I need to show you how bitches rape you in jail.

I don't have a punch. What's going on? I'm afraid. You know what? A verbal law is fine. You get a pen, right? Just describe it. Use your finger.

Because sometimes they don't want to give us pins, so you know you have a toothbrush, right? Alex, come here. Humble, come here, humble. Somebody got to be the guinea pen. You have a toothbrush, right? You get a pad, sanitary pads, right? You get the pads. You put the pads right here.

Maxi pads. Yes, the maxi pads. You get the pads right here. You know, you roll it, make it look like a dick, you know. Then you get an ace bandage. You wrap that around it, so you want to make it more secure. Now you take your bra, right? Yeah.

And you tie it around you. So you have a strap on. And now you got the strap on. And then you just grab, bitches. Come here. You got that glove on it, you feel me? Lubricated up. Vaseline, baby oil.

What is the fucking point? No, but you got to realize there's a lot of girls who like shit like that. Like, they love straps. What do they like? They're gay. They want to feel dick. They don't feel nothing. There's no.

What are you? feeling. It's a big thing. It's big. It's big. No, no, not you. The person that's doing it to you. Oh, yeah.

I don't know what they're feeling. It's probably an emotional thing. If one of those girls is fucking and going, ugh, that's fake. There's no physical feeling. It's like getting a tattoo on a fake arm and acting like it hurts. Ouch. It's like, oh. Oscar Pistorius stubbing his fake foot.

Oh. Yeah. Oh, my toe. My PO is calling. What answer? Go ahead. Oh. Guys, I don't know what just happened.

Ha ha ha ha. This is beyond me. How often do they do visits? Okay, so he's like active PO right now. I have another PO. So he has to just expect my house and make sure that, you know, like everything is copacetic.

Okay, so listen. A woman is coming at you with a fake scrap on all. You see that coming. You can defend that. Okay, so let me tell you how this happened to me. Let me tell you my scenario. I'm a dumb bitch. You feel me?

I did a dumb bitch move. Which was? Which was sleeping during the day. You don't fucking sleep during the day. day in jail where your cell is open. You understand? Like you wait until they fucking locked down the cells. But I was tired. I just got out the box. You feel me?

I was, you know, I was there because it's like, oh yeah, I was in the box for four months. I'm free again. Like, you know, so I'm all day jumping around. You know, just finding out what's going on in the jail, scoping out the spots, you know, seeing where the cameras is at, you know, shit like that. So then I finally knock out. It's like 2 o'clock. Oh, your P.O. calling again.

Oh, my God. So, okay, so basically, back to the day rate. Yeah, you were sleeping. The day rape. Jesus Christ. She tried to dayrate me and she didn't set the mood. And that's what got me upset out of everything. Because it's like you're really not going to even try to set the mood for this pussy. I'm just like a worthless pussy.

You're just going to rape this pussy and not set the mood for this pussy. What do you want the mood set by? Let her go. Listen, we have headphones in there where you know you could have sat here and played some music and let music be playing in the background. You know, like we could have played the music in the background. They could have sat here and had little flowers, you know, spread it about. I could have been up.

Okay. You know, I've been up. Let's do it. Yeah, you could have set the mood. You could say, yeah, listen. We put, like, construction paper. They could have put construction paper over the light to dim the lights in the room to make it look like a boom, boom room. They could have set the mood in jail.

So that shit happens in jail. Yes, yes. They set the mood in jail. They put up a curtain. They do shit like that. She didn't do none of that. She had no fucking respect for me. She did not give a fuck who Star Brim was.

And that's the shit that got me upset before anything. So she might have got that put to you. You don't fucking know me? Like, No, she could have never had got the pussy because I'm like it. But, so it's like 2 o'clock, you know, in the afternoon, 2 o'clock in the afternoon. And I feel this.

Like, I feel a lot of grabbing, you know, and shit like that. And then I'm looking out of my sleep and I see the strap just chilling, just dangling. And you know what I'm like? My worst nightmare to wake up from her next. My worst nightmare. And it was so long and so big. It was the biggest trap I ever seen in my life. She was mad macfey pad.

It was a man dick. It was like. Horse dick. It was like a horse dick. It was literally so big that it's like where you thought that was even fit in since? Not in this coochie. Yeah.

So she fucks me up now. I'm getting fucked up at first. She's getting you up. Yeah, she's beating my ass. And you gotta realize, let's not even say she, let's say he because this is a person who's transforming. In jail, they have those.

Transitioning. It's not transforming. It's not Optimist Prime. Sorry. Make it wrong. No, seriously, I don't want to make fun of them. All the box. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't want them coming from me. I do not know the correct terminology. But all I know is that she's transitioning. Transitioning, yeah, yeah. She's transitioning. Everything that happens on the outside in jail, they have to continue on the inside. So she was getting hormone shots.

He was getting hormone shots on the outside. So it was a real guy? It was a girl turned into a guy. Didn't have no teeth no more. The clip was hung, like it hangs now, you know? Like, basically it was everything. So they shooting the testosterone? Yeah.

This is something that she's been getting. These are shots. She's been locked up for 15 years. These are shots that she's been getting for 15 years. So she's strong. He's strong. He's strong. He's strong.

He's mustache and everything. Like, boy. Everything looks like a boy. Everything looks like a boy. And she does not, he does not look like a girl whatsoever. Like, you know, and there's a few of those that's in there. So he's fucking me up. Beating my ass.

Beating my ass. All the way he finally grabs me up out the, um, out the cell, like out the bed. And slams me into the locker. And I don't know. I must have found some superpower strength because after that I was like, listen, sis, you ain't get fucking raped by these jail, about these blood niggas?

You're going to get raped by him? Hell fucking no. Like, you feel me? So then I started fucking up. And allegedly they said I cut up, but I didn't do that. But I started like beating his ass all the way and they sent me back to the box again.

Question, if you, just hypothetically, if you did cut him and him is trying to rape you. There's no snitching in jail. But still, wouldn't be self-defense? You wouldn't know it's self-defense if there's no telling. I didn't tell on my case. I'm going to tell that this person just, you understand, because that's now a pria.

That's now a charge that that person is getting. Now my name is on paperwork. I'm good. You understand it is what it is. I won this one. I got to go back to the box. Fuck it. That's what I got to do.

But I'm definitely not having my name on no paper. Like, you know, but sitting here saying that you didn't. Now, was she fighting you with the strap on still on? Yes. And it was hitting my leg to her to fight and she just swinging. And it was so big. You don't understand how big it wasn't strong. Like it did not crumble up.

Like it's like why in this whole tussle and fight did it not fall? Because does that distract you? Because if you was fighting a dude, you would go for that dick. No, it didn't distract me. But you can't grab it and that shit, it wouldn't do nothing. Yeah. It didn't distract me. It just like I remember like later on feeling when I'm in a box like this fucking hard-ass

dildo hitting my leg and shit during the fight. What kind of shit is this? Like hard-ass dick. Like, you know, so. So what happens after you get out the box and you see this person again? Okay. So I didn't see that person again. Okay.

because I came home out the box. I did my four months. I was out for three days. And then I went back in. Like, maybe I was out for two weeks. I don't know. I don't remember how long I was out. I just know that they sent my ass right back in

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may apply. Visit boostmobile.com or your nearest retailer for details. All right, let's get back to the show. So when does Starbrem meet Cardi B? Barty B. I met Barty a couple of years ago

by a person that was our friend at the time. Like a lot of people think that I'm at the strip club. A lot of people think that I'm a stripper. I never stripped in my life. Not that I have, you know, a problem against the strippers,

but I always bartended in a strip club. So, and the reason I bartended is because I'm fighting a case. Like, you understand, I have to come up with fast money to pay for this lawyer. So, and I can't scam. So this is why I started bartending.

I didn't bartend because I wanted to bartend. I don't even like people. Like, I don't fuck it. I don't drink. You understand? Like, I don't want to look you in your face. I don't want to shake my ass. until I see the money being thrown.

Like, you know, I go to people and be like, what's up, you babysitting this? Like, what you're going to do with this money? Like, you know, because it's like, let's get this over with. Like, you know, I'm here. Like, so that's how I met her. I met her a couple of years back by a mutual friend.

It wasn't like in the strip club or anything like that. By the time I met her, she wasn't even stripping no more. Really? Yeah, she was out that life. Question, why are there bartenders in the strip club? To serve drinks. Who's going to serve you a drink? Yeah, but why did you have the strippers do it?

Because they're working. Work a little more. Work a little more. Like, because whenever I'm in a strip club, the waitresses Look better? A better looking than the strippers! That's changed over the years ago. It has not changed in New York.

It changed where the bartenders looked better than the strippers. When I was coming up, the strippers was the shit. Yeah. So basically, I feel like this. And this is why I say all the time. You see how everybody would be like, oh, yeah, there's no racism in the club. It is. Every single time I have ever bartended, I'm the only black girl there.

There's no other black girls that's bartending with me. They're all strippers, basically. And I feel like it's simple. At the end of the day, Spanish people attract Spanish guys, right? Spanish guys, when they come to a club, they're not going to sit here and ask for a discount on a bottle. A black guy is, like, you understand? So business owners be one to attract. For real, like, I know I am.

Like, wait, $300 for this? Like, what's up? I can't get a discount if I buy two. Like, you understand? A Spanish guy's either going to get it or not. You understand, they're either going to buy this or they're not. And then on top of it, these Spanish bitches got their body done because their cousins do it. You understand, in the basement?

So. It's easy. It's easy for them to get their body done. It's harder for a bitch. A little trip to D-A-A-to-Go see Grandma. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, like they know everybody. They know in their country.

You know how to get the discounts. We're going to get the discounts from. Black girls, we got to pay full price. So it's like, oh, hell no, we ain't getting this shit. Except for a bitch like me because I got this one. You know, whoever paid for my shit at the time. Thank you very much, whoever she was. What you got?

I was scamming. I got LIPO. All right. What is, what? Lipo means you take it out. Did you stuff it back in anywhere? No, I just took it out. I wanted it.

I told him to save it for me, but he didn't. What was you going to do with it? I wanted to put it in my ass, but he said no. Oh, okay. So you got LIPO? What does that mean? So you made yourself skinnier? What did you do with the LIPO?

Yeah, like, I got oilless. I made it skinnier because when I first started bartending, I used to make like $3,000 a night. And I used to, listen, that's nothing. I used to make like $3,000 a night. And I used to sit there and be like, yo, my father was like, don't start bartending. You wouldn't want to get your body done.

And I used to be like, nigger, are you crazy looking me? Like, I'm never going, when I seen throwing bitches in there with their body done, I'm like, oh, yeah, I need to get this snatch, that snatch. It really does fuck with your mental. You really start to see people and be like, nah, I do need to get this done. And it crazy because once I got it done, I started making no less than $8,000 a night. So why would anyone strip? I don't know. A lot of people, a lot of people like different things.

Like, you understand, maybe they're not. How much of the strippers making? Not more than me. Yeah, I do remember. They're making less money to show their pussy than you are to bring coronas to tables? I remember that time in New York when the bartenders took over though Like when it was the star tenders

With Bernice and all of them You gotta realize this too A lot of girls, a lot of strippers Don't want to have that type of clientele You understand? In order for you to have people Throw money on you Like as a bartender, my friends

People ain't just coming throwing money on me These are my clientele These are my friends These are the relationships I built You know strippers just come They could come get their money They make their money And they could go their way

They don't have to sit here And text you later at night Like what's up boo I don't have to sit there And do shit like that You understand I had to be flirting with niggas And telling niggas like yeah

pop out to my club. You understand, do shit like that. I have to sit there and really do this for a week straight until the day that, you understand, to this day that I work. I have to sit there and really talk to you, communicate, flirt, convince you that you might get some pussy. You know, shit like that. Right.

A stripper, you just go in, shake your ass, get your cash, and leave. I see. You don't really have to do so much as clientele. You don't have clientele. Your clients is everybody that's in here. Bartenders is the one that's promoting. Like, if you really look at strippers' pages, you're not going to see them ever seeing him.

saying, catch me here, catch me here for a week. Come show me love here. This is bartenders. Bartenders is promoting parties every single day. They could put up a regular picture and the caption to be, oh, come see me at, you understand? So we're the ones bringing everybody in. I don't even know who the fly strippers are anymore.

There's a lot of popping strippers, but there's a lot of them is down south because you've got to realize New York is the only place where bartenders get money thrown at them. Every other place, like down south, strippers are the only ones getting money thrown at them. don't get money thrown at them. That's something that's only in New York. So if you really want to make a good living as a stripper, go down south because these motherfuckers is buying houses and cars and everything. Like, you understand, they really have, they file taxes.

Right. Like, you have to down south, you have to get a permit, and you have to go to, like, the local police station, and they have to give you a permit in order for you to strip at clubs. In New York, you don't. You don't have to have them permit. You don't have to have none of that. But every other place...

So every stripper is licensed. Every stripper down south is licensed. And you have to take a test. for that? No, you just got to go to the local precinct with a paper

and they fill out the paper and they basically give you a license because now basically you could file taxes you know you could do other things I don't know that some money.

Yeah. I had no idea. They could file taxes and everything like they buy houses like as strippers down there in the South that's making

30, 40,000 a night like that can't be real I'm telling you Houston Atlanta like Miami yeah it depends

where you're at It depends where you're at. Like, you're not going to go to Jackson, Mississippi. And, you know, it's a $40,000 strip right night. Yeah, like Vegas. You get in, they're getting it. So how did you and Barty get so cool? Barty's under me, like, when it comes to blood.

Like, she's with me. Y'all jump Barty in? Bardi Fort, yeah. How long? You know her? I knew her a while. A while. What's a while?

A couple years, like, five, six years. Okay. But Barty was this. She's young, yeah. I'm just forgetting how young her. And Barty, she was, she was blood before she even met me. Yeah. She was, she was blood.

So she was jumped into your set before you even knew what she was. Yeah. So when she met you, she's, you like, I don't know what they call the women that are the dons. And what do they call the woman? Mm-hmm. You just, you're just the boss. I'm just the boss. Okay, okay.

So why did you all be? Certain stuff can't be said. So there's a name for what a female boss is in the bloods, but you're, but you're, you're not going to say what it is. Yeah. Gotcha. Why did y'all become so cool? Because you don't like people, so why did y'all become so cool?

Okay, so when I first got around her, I had to see, like, what type of person she was. And Cardi is, like, a genuine person. You know, and I feel like because of, because she's different, because she comes from a different lifestyle, a lot of people don't understand her, and they don't see her pain. Like, you know, like, I was there when she was there when she was sitting here really trying to get out there. I was there when she didn't have nothing. I was there when everybody was trying to use her. I was there when she got used.

You understand? I was there when she gave her on, didn't get credit for it. Like, I was just there for everything. So it was like I just started fucking with her as a person. Like, you know, just the type of person she is, like she's a real genuine person. Remember, I get real protective when I feel like

somebody's getting misused or somebody's trying to bully or pick because Cardi's not a punk, but she's not as aggressive as me. Like, you understand? So it's like, why are you fucking with her when I'm right here? You understand? Like, why I go to her when you can just come to me? Right.

And especially now when it comes, it's like, she's a whole millionaire. Why the fuck are you playing, you know, violating on her and coming for her when it's 30 other bitches that we don't got nothing. Like, you feel me, we don't got no millions. Come for us. Like, because we have nothing to lose. So why are you going to tell a person that has something to lose? Like, I'll take that. You feel me?

You beat me, then you can holler at her. What, what, how did you feel about when her, her? What is that? It's a dope video game. You get through Starbrim, you got to go to Cardi. How'd you feel about that little scuffle between her and Nikki? Did that really bother you? It really bothered me, of course, because I'm in jail at the time.

You understand? So I'm in jail, and I honestly feel like if I was there, it would not have happened. And I stand by what I say. It definitely wouldn't have happened that way. Before she would have had that night, I would have had that night. Period. Like, and even if I see Riley to this day, I'm going to smash Riley. No, we don't want to encourage that.

What do you mean by smash? We don't want to encourage that, though. What do you mean by smash, though? What I mean? You feel me? I'm with whatever with whoever. Like, I'm with whatever

you feel me? I feel like I feel like I fell away against her because at the end of the day you feel me you're taking on somebody else's beef which is cool because I take on my friend's beef

but the friend is here now. You know what I'm here now so since you taking on somebody else's beef you're taking on Nikki Beef or whatever the situation is let me take on Cardi Beef. Let's have a one-on-one. Well, here's the thing though,

start like you do have a lot to lose because you have your freedom to lose and I think that you have a future. I'll sit up again for my friends. I'll sit up again for my friend But why? I don't set up for less What about it like a charity boxing

That could work Free one too You know It really doesn't matter I think we could do a nice little charity boxing event Do you know Or a charity mud wrestle?

I'm not doing the mud wrestle Okay I was just throwing it out there And I just feel like We squashed the beef forever Everything's squash everybody's friends We don't have to get like real violent I just hate the rap shit

We're not going to ever be friends because we wasn't friends in the beginning. Like, you understand? So we're not going to sit here and smash it and be like, oh, yeah, we're friends now. We was never friends. How do we avoid people getting really hurt? That's what I'm trying to say. But we still let the aggression out. They mind their business.

That's how you not get really hurt. I see. Mind your business. If you don't mind your business, then you offer it. Like, you understand? Just like, I'm all for it. Everything has repercussions. I'm not the biggest, toughest person in the world.

You understand? Everything has repercussions. If you want to not get hurt, you mind your business. Once you don't mind your business or the business that pays you're all for it. know if Joe Olstein tweeted that, it'll get a million retweets. Mind your business and you won't get hurt. Mind your business. You won't get hurt.

I still think that there's something that we could do for charity, like a little backyard brawl or something. The NYPD doesn't let me do charity. The Bumblebee too in a backyard brawl. That's a good one. Let's talk about that. The NYPD doesn't let me do charity. You was in your hood this weekend.

You was in Brooklyn. No, I was in Queens. I'm sorry. You was in Queens. And you was doing a charity event for the kids. No. What was you doing? I was chilling.

Oh, I heard you was, that's what Angela E. reported this morning that you was doing a charity event for the kids. Oh, for real? That's what she did? Oh, no. Angelie, y'all lied. Yeah. No, she's lied.

I wasn't doing anything for the kids. I was just out there chilling with the homies. You know, I broke cardio out and shit like that. And I had a charity event coming up on August 27th. Got you. I wanted to do a school fundraiser for the kids. I wanted to, you know, give backpacks, 300 backpacks and stuff like that. And everything was set up.

The principal, me and my manager met with the principal. We met with the school. We checked everything out. You know, everything was basically in process. Everything was set. Then all of a sudden, they call me and tell me, oh, I need to meet with your manager right away. Like, this is urgent. Like, you know, the NYPD contacted us.

And I'm like, okay, what did they contact y'all about? And they basically blew it off. Like, basically, we can't have you. Like, you understand? Like, they said that it's not safe and it's too much and all this other extra stuff. And it's like, how is it not safe? Because the NYPD does a lot when it comes to my parties. They call the owners, you know, the clubs, and be like, don't let her.

India, you know, blah, blah, blah, try to blackmail me. And the club still does because they know I'm going to bring in a bag. You know, they're not stopped. But this is just a regular civilian, you know, principal, who doesn't really know much about anything. So she just basically got shook and was like, you know what, we can't do this. I'm sorry. You know, I know this was for the kids and I really want you there because I went to that

school. So it's like, now it's just like, you know what, I'm over it. Like I don't even want to find nowhere else. My manager wanted me to just find somewhere else. And it's like, no, it's easier to do wrong. I'm saying, it's harder for me to sit here and do good. because I'm taking my own personal money and my own personal time

while I have a million things going on. In reality, I don't even home two months. You understand? So I'm doing a whole bunch of things that I'm trying to give back to the kids. And the only reason I want to do this is because when I grew up, I didn't see it. It wasn't around.

Do you understand? Like, I don't know if they was having back-to-school things, but I never was part of them. Yeah. So I really wanted to do this because right now I'm comfortable. I'm able to spend some money and be comfortable still.

I'm not going to go broke doing this, you know? So I feel like for them to do this It's like, nah, fuck it. Like, you know what it is what it is. Like, I have no kids. Well, they want you to be discouraged. They want you to be discouraged because they want you to say, man, being good, trying to be good is too hard.

Let me go back to the street and do some bullshit. Yeah. Because they want you back to the same place. I don't feel like I'm going to go back to the streets, but it's like I'm not going to bend over backwards to do good. I'm not going to bend over backwards. You understand? I'm not going to break my back to do good.

But that was I'm saying, they want you to be discouraged. They don't want you to give back to your community. They want those kids in those hoods to see the same bullshit that you saw growing up. so it keeps the cycle going. So in order to break the cycle, you got to do stuff like that. I feel like they didn't have an issue with me giving back.

They had an issue with me giving black. Ooh, I like that. That's just how I personally feel. Yeah, you should tweet that. Your PO would like that. Now, that's solid. You think he'll have a problem with it? No, that's solid.

They're like, yeah, NYPD don't got a problem with me giving back. They got a problem with me giving black. That's a solid. That's a solid. I honestly feel that way. I don't feel like it was the giving back part. I feel like it was me giving blacks.

Because if I feel like if I had this in a different type of area where it wasn't Brownsville. You understand where Brownsville needs it? You understand? Then it would be a problem. Everybody's like, oh, you do it in Manhattan, do it here. Why? I'm not from Manhattan.

I'm not from there. I want to have it where I'm from. You understand? I want to have it in the area in the community that I know needs it. Like we even went, me and my manager even went to this other spot, which was like better in a way because it had A-C's and stuff like that. But that whole area, that whole community, they do not need no type of anything.

Inspiration. Like they don't need nothing. That area was kind of rich in a way. Like, you know, that area of Brooklyn had money. I wanted to do it where I know they need it. Yeah, but that's the point. They don't want you to provide that inspiration to those kids in those communities

because they want them to see the same shit that you saw. It's crazy because I had, like, so much celebrities popping out. Like, you know, I just had a lot of things going on. But it's like, it is what it is. Like, I'm not going to sit here and fight you out for something that I'm not even getting anything out of. I'm not getting nothing out of this. All I was doing this was for me.

And, you know, because I personally wanted to do it. I'm not getting nothing out of it. I'm not getting no money. I'm not getting no, no, I'm not getting shit. Yeah. Like. I also want you to know that the media don't know shit because we got damn reported that you had the charity event and the shit got shut down.

And I was saying maybe it got shut down because Cardi was there and it was a bunch of people so it might have been a hazard. Uh-uh. That's what we reported this morning. No. Literally. That's wrong. You didn't get no text about that.

Nobody. That's probably what your PO was talking about. Okay. So, no, my father did hit me up and said that, what was the station? Power 101. No. What is it? Ten 10.

10-10-win said Cardi's best friend stripper, Cardi's stripper best friend, uh-a. So he caught me about that because he's mad that everybody keep thinking that I was a stripper. So that's all he called me about. Like, you know, my dad was really upset that y'all called me a stripper. That's all.

Isn't that complimentary a bit? What, being called something that you're not? No, it's not about that as I'm a stripper. It's a simple fact that even if they would have been like, oh, yeah, like say I was a nurse. And they'd be like, oh, yeah, Cardi's best friend the construction worker. It's a simple fact that that's not me.

I understand that completely. but at least they're looking, you're like, she's hot enough to be one. No, you got a model face. There's ugly strippers. That is true. Yeah, but... That just got nice bodies.

Right, but I feel like that would be labeled like, you know, Cardi's friends. Yeah, Cardi's friend. What I'm saying is they're looking at a picture of you, right? They don't know even if you're a strip or not. They're like, but she could be. They're Googling me. Because if you Google me, my name is Brooklyn,

which is not my name. And also, I'm a stripper friend. I'm her stripper friend. I'm a friend. I'm from the strip club. I was a stripper. Like everything that's on Google about me is Cardi's friend, the stripper. Because I worked in the strip club.

Because I worked in the strip club. Hot chick working in a strip club. I'd make that mistake. My friend was a stripper. Yeah, yeah. So then that falls into the, oh yeah, she must have been one too. You know, that's probably where they're, you know, speculation. That's probably where they met, not realizing.

I didn't even know her when she was dancing. You know, so. What's the most you've been offered for a lap dance? I've never been offered anything. Nobody ever was like, listen, let me get. Please, can you give me a lap dance? Forget the lap dance. How much you've been offered to fuck?

Really? Niggas ain't playing with me. They haven't even offered money for sex? Niggas ain't saying something like that to me. Never? Nah. Is that disrespectful to offer you money for that? Yeah, it's disrespectful to offer me money for that.

Like, you the fuck. But it's like, but it's a simple fact that Cardi and a lot of people is really like, you know, internationally known and stuff like that, I'm really street known. So niggas know not to play with me like that. Like you told me, I'm going to take it that straight disrespect and I'm not taking a disrespect from nobody. But what if this guy like me?

What if this guy like me? What if I walk in there with a shirt that has flowers on it? I'm definitely going to be mad. You're not even my same race. Why the fuck is born, white boy? The fuck is wrong with you. That's how open-minded I am. Well, I'm not.

Yeah, but look how progressive I am. Not that much. I'm not that open-minded. That you feel of me, you can just walk in here and because you see a black girl. First of all, there's lots of black girls. You're the one. That's what I want to spend my money on.

Exactly. I go, look at all the black girls, all the Latinos, all the white girls. I look at you and I'm like, oh my God. See, but now I have the mindset where it's like, I probably would have been like, nah, you're good. But if you would have caught me back then, probably with a laundry, boo-bo. Now, what if, I don't know what that means, sounds dangerous. No, what if you walked up to you with a not of money, right?

Probably not a haircut. Andrew walked up to you with a not of hundreds. You're like, yo, what's that? He says reparations. What do you do? Yo, I got a guy in here right now. He's wearing this much right now. This is how much we're going to split.

Don't play with me. What if I walk up? What if I walk in like this? And I go, listen, I understand the dynamics of this strip club. I understand that you are a waitress. And I understand that you serve the drinks here. But you know, I'm behind the bar. I'm not like a bar.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So. Yeah, yeah. I go, I go, I understand that you are behind the bar. I understand what's going on here. But I have never laid eyes on such a beautiful woman in my entire life. It's hard for me to do this while you're looking at your phone. But I have never.

signing you up just in case. Right? She's texting somebody right now what you're wearing. I've never laid eyes with such a beautiful woman in my entire life. And I understand that you don't normally dance, but what would it take to get a dance from you? What if I prefaced it like that? Anything.

I would even be, first of all, that conversation is too long. Like, you see how you just lost me? I'd have been lost there too. I'm in a strip club full of music. Like, I'd have been lost. Like, first of all, you're saying too much. Like, what do you want? Do you want a henny with Coke?

Do you want some ice? what the fuck do you want? Probably would in order that henry with Cook. Yeah, because you would have had to break that down. But what if I was like charred?

What if I was like cute about it also? And then you're like, oh, he's so cute. I see money in the club. Like you feel me? Like I don't see cute. I don't give a fuck

of you the ugliest motherfucker in India. How is your pockets looking? Like, you know, like I'm not looking for stuff like that. This ain't fine your match. Like I'm in the club looking for the bread. Like what's up? Like, where's the money at? Like, you would have lost me.

Even with all that. Even with that conversation because it's so long, Like, you know, it's so noisy, and that conversation was super long that you just lost me just now. What if I came up and I just put a tunicant on the table? Just slightly just put it right there. I didn't say anything. I'd have been looking down to see if I have a sock.

Yeah. That's the match.com she'd have been looking for. The sock and the tunic. Like, you know, why the fuck is he just give me this tuna? Where's the best disrespectful? Where's the sock? What am I supposed to do? Just to lunge that you?

What if right? What if right when you say that I puttie right next to the tuna? Oh, my pussy probably would have been weighed. Investigated me, motherfucker. That means you are into me. See, I'm not real. You crack the code. You cracked the code.

You cracked the code. I got it, baby. I'm kind of a motherfucker who's in me. But then I came through. You came through. So here you go. Sock, sun, kiss. And then what do I do?

I just walk away from the bar. Oh, no, no, I got to come after you. I got to come after you, baby. You researched me. What have you heard? Yeah, you bugging. What have you heard? Who we got to do this with?

Who's the victim? Who's the victim? Who's the fucking dickens? We're riding together. Who fuck with you? You know you just told millions and millions of dudes how to get at you, right? You're going to get mad socks and tuna cans now. When that's you out in the street.

Can y'all hear me? Make sure it's albacore. You do have a very beautiful face though. I need the fresh one. You have a very beautiful, like you're like a model. Stunning. Thank you. When did you come into your own and realize that, though?

I think probably after being hurt so much, like you know by guys, is like, are you dumb, bad? Like, you know, like, I don't know, like, after a while, I started realizing my growth, but I still be having moments as a female. You know, everybody, every female has their... Insecure moments. Yeah, I still have my insecure moments where it's like, oh, my God. Like, you know how, like, this bun.

I always wear a bun and I always get, like, criticized for it. Like, I always get people cursing me out on Instagram. Like, oh, change up your head. And then I have to think about it, like, bitch I got here. Like, you know, like, at least I got here to put it in a bun. Because some people don't have hair to put in a bun. But, you know, it's times where I just be like, damn, maybe I should change up my hairstyle.

Or maybe I should do this and maybe I should do that. But then it's like, nah, fuck that. I don't get a fuck how they feel in the day. Somebody's going to love it. Like, you know, I love it. So, like, you feel me, I like it. As long as I like it, then that's all that matters. But it took me a long time to find myself.

Like, I talk a lot about it on, like, the podcast that I have coming up, keeping it beaut. Keeping a Butte. Yes, it just came out today. How do you spell but B-U-T-E? Ooh. I thought it was like beautiful, but B-E-A-U-T. don't say C's over here.

And if you're gonna be down, you have to realize that. No, no. So how do you... I like how I'm down. How do you shit on? I can fucking do the work. I'm lying you now.

Listen, you down south, right? You run into a racist white man. Okay. Right? He calls you a nigger. Like, fuck you. You gotta say Cracker, right? I don't think I would go back and full for him.

Oh, you wouldn't even get to the racial slur. No, like... Okay, here's a good example. Here's a good example. I don't think I would argue. Wait a minute. This is a big deal, right? What are you going to say?

Somebody has like a heart attack or something on the street, right? And you're, you need, you know, people to come. So you're like, ball the ambulance. And they're like, what? Huh? No, it don't work like that. Wait, what? No, it's got to be, if it's a word that starts with scene.

Yeah, call the ambulance, but you're like, ball the ambulance. Oh, ball, okay, I didn't hear that call. What are you fucking talking? Ball the ambulance. I don't think I would be caring to any, okay, I mean, I say that. I don't think I would be telling anybody call the ambulance. You're just going to walk past somebody in the street?

Are you really a New Yorker? You mind your business. I'm on the business that pays me. I'm minding my fucking business. You're saying business, though. Listen, listen, let me tell you something. Oh, you can say business. See, I'm confused.

Yeah, you could say business. Can you say coochie? Can you like, can you be like, yeah? No, I'd be like boochie. So eat this boochie. That sounds like a man's pussy, like butt pussy. Yeah. So, right?

Isn't that what the trans? The trans shacks would say. Come get some of this boo-shin. You can say whatever you want to say, honestly. This is like back in the day where you know you could only say certain terms. You could say whatever the fuck you want. Like, just to be funny, we say little stuff like Biggeret,

you know, Big and Beck, B and Boo, stuff like that. But it's not set in stone. You can say whatever the fuck you want to say. If you have to say it. It's a girl named Sierra from Love and Hip Hop, right? And she has like the shirts. Yeah, B. No, it starts with a S.

So I can say it. Correct yourself. Don't correct you. You're right. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, son. You absolutely right. Don't do that again.

That made my number hard. One time and one time. It's done. You know, I warned you when we came in. I didn't get a chance to warn him. It'll never happen again. I got to warn you. It'll never happen again.

Don't ever correct me. Yes, I'm sorry. Ever again. I apologize. You don't know what lies in here. That is very true. I'm not trying to go back to Joe this soon. Now I will say you did say correct.

Never mind. Okay, so Sierra. Oh, God. I'm not playing with you. No, you said Sierra. I'm so dead ass. I'm sorry. I apologize.

All right. Okay, go. Guys, I'm, honestly. I can keep it but you can turn me into somebody else. I don't think you want to stop Ben. No, I don't want that. I was really spared right there in that moment. I was absolutely spared.

Okay, so Sierra, right? She has a shirt that says, mind the business that pays you. And I always sit there and just think about stuff like that. So I don't give a fuck what you're doing in the street. Unless it's a fight. I might want to record it. But other than that, I don't give a fuck. You could have a heart attack.

For all I know, you could just sit here and try to spit in my face when I'm trying to help you. You know? You understand? People do wicked, crazy shit. So it's like, I really will walk away and not give a fuck. That's not my problem. It's too many.

It's millions civilians. Why the fuck do I got to be the good one? Does that shit still excite you? Like, if you see a fight in the street, like, because you've been in so much fights and altercations. Yeah, it's not exciting. But let's see who wins. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Let's see what's going on here. Like, you know, like, but it has to be, like, funny in a way. Like, you know, not. Like, I'd be seeing, like, little guy scuffles. And it's like, what are you going on? Like, you ain't got knock him out yet? or something like, like, you know, like, little altercations where, you know, the little cars and they get out their cars and they're just, no, I'm keeping it pushing. But a lot of times I really do mind the business that pays me because little fights could turn into shootouts and stuff like that.

And I'm tired of getting shot at. Like, you know, like, I'm over that life of getting shot at. I don't even want to run no more. So now I'm going to get hit with a bullet because I don't want to run. Like, you know, so I just mind my business. Okay, we're going to take a break for a second. Pay some bills right here. White Castle is America's first fast food hamburger chain that as well as the slider.

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I heard the tax season. I actually listened to it last night, matter of fact. Let me tell you something. Tax is like the most brilliant person I know. He is. Listen, no, you don't understand. And I honestly don't even want to say it here because I honestly want to say it to him.

Nobody knows how appreciative I am of tax. Like, I don't have people do anything for me. Like, you understand? I don't have nobody who just goes out there way and do stuff for me. Like, so for him to, you know, push me in the direction of Star, I know you could do this, I feel you could do this, I knew you for a long time, do this, and you know, hook me up with my manager, hook me up with this, hook me up with that.

It's like, why? You understand? You're sitting in jail. Facing a life sentence. Yeah, you're right. I would tell everybody suck my dick. Like, you understand? That's how I would be?

And it's like, I asked another day, like, how the fuck could you even still have? Because it's days when I was down in jail. So how can he's like, because, you know, if I don't. smile, I'm a cry. And I felt that because it's mad times that, you know, if I don't smell, thinking about my life, I will cry. But it's like, he's went above and beyond for me, and

I never even knew him in the street like that. Really? Where'd y'all meet? No. You know, okay, so listen, while he was in jail, okay, we never met. We never met. Okay. Me and him has never met, phrase to face. But when he was in jail, and I was in MCC, I had

one of the security, like one of the CEOs, give him a picture of me. I think he was in a, I think he was in a box at the time. I'm like, oh, Tach Stone here, right? I know that he knows some of the same people. I know, you feel me? We both in the street, so we know of each other. I'm like, send him this picture. Tell him, get right. Like, you feel me? Like, get right. Like, jerk off to it. Like, you feel me? Touch that dick. You feel me? I got, I know my pictures looking nice. You feel me? So I sent like a little three, four pictures and told him, like, do your thing. Like, you know, here. Here's something good to look at. You feel me? And, um, and they sent it up to him,

and I got shipped to another jail. And, um, we just got in touch when I came home. You know, like we got a touch and stuff like that, but I have never personally met him in real life. So for him to go above and beyond the way he does for me, it's like, because I asked him like, why are you doing this? Like, you know, like, I'm always used to somebody having a reason. Like, you know, what is your agenda? Like, what do you want?

Like, and he's like, nah, like, I just see something in you. And, you know, when I see something in somebody, I'm just a genuine dude. And it's like, when I say he calls me every day, he sit here and sending me inspirational stuff. And it's like, damn, this thing really believes in me. He had me two weeks ago. He was like, yo.

Like, that shit is, that should be touching my heart because I don't be, like, besides my family members, which you're supposed to care for me. You're my dad. You know, like, you're supposed to do this. I don't be having people that just gives a fuck about me. And don't want anything from you, other than to see you succeed. I don't even have people who want stuff from me and gives a fuck about me. The impressive thing. I just have people who want stuff from me.

Like, they don't even give a fuck. They still don't give a fuck. They're not even pretending to give a fuck. I think the impressive thing about someone in taxes situation is, like, most people realize that, you know, helping others. makes them feel good or helps themselves once they have an abundance of money or power, it's rare that people who have seemingly nothing

realize that. And he's at a point right now where everything's been taking for me. Like he's facing everything, facing a life sentence. It's very easy in that moment to internalize and just take from people. Hey, what are you doing for me? Hey, help me, put someone on the books.

If I had a life sentence, the way I will be violating officers, you know, Violet, I would just not care no more. Nothing to lose. I don't care. I don't care.

Everything's a go. I'm beating you up. I'm stealing from you. I'm taking this. What you're going to do? I'm doing everything. Because at the end of the day, I have nothing else to live for.

Maybe you'd realize midway through that that those things didn't make you any happier. They actually made you more sad and that helping other people that you believed in like Tax is doing for you actually gives you a little bit of joy even in the darkest time of your life.

I don't even think I would feel like that. I think tax's mind is way beyond minds. Like, you understand. I think he's way smart than me. He went through way more probably things than me. Maybe. You know, because I'm alive. I see him and say, oh, maybe halfway through

I would have felt, no, it would have made me feel good. That's how I personally feel. I feel like it would have made me feel good. So for him to be put in that position and knowing already like that wouldn't make me feel no way, you understand, that shit wouldn't make me feel happier. That's a strong-ass mind. You know, like, regardless of whatever it is, is a million people out here that he knows that he could have helped. He did not know me like that. You understand.

He's never seen me in person. But he saw something in you, you know what I'm saying? Like, I see something in you. Like, you remind me of text on a lot. He sees, him and my manager see so much in me that it scares me because I don't see it. Can you imagine? She's right there. Alex.

Alex, okay, salute to Alex. All right. Can you look at what happened to tax and then make sure that you avoid some of those? Listen to what I said. I said she reminds me of tax, which is a great thing, but it's also scary as fuck. You think so? I think so beyond mind. That's not what we're referring to.

What makes you think you don't have intellect? You have a different experience and you have a different language to express your experiences, but that don't make you any less intellectual. In a way, I feel like anything can happen to anybody, but I do feel, I do look at what happened in the position that, you know, he was put in, and I definitely know, like, I don't want to be put in that position, you know, and stuff like that. So you definitely have to watch liars out here and people who just lie for no reason.

Very true. Who just come up with you and stuff like that. What is the saying that you use a lot? It's smart people learn from their own mistakes. More people learn from their own mistakes, while people learn from the mistakes of others. But that's why you can't let people trick you off the street. You know what I'm saying?

Even in the position that you're in now, because you are Cardi's friend and you do have a bright future. And Cardi is going to have a lot of issues with people, but all of y'all have to move differently because none of y'all are on the street no more. Yeah, like, I was speaking to her other day. Don't be too easy to access. I was so sad for her.

Like, I'd be so sad for her because Cardi hasn't reached my mind level yet of not giving a fuck. And it scares me because I'm, because I remember when I used to pay people, like private detectors, to find out where this bitch on Instagram lives because I'm gonna go to her house because she's popping shit, you feel me?

And she thinks just because she on Instagram, I ain't gonna find you, ho, but guess what? I'm gonna pay somebody so I can find you. I was at that level. Like, I was at the level where anything somebody said about me affected me because it's like, what did I do to you? I didn't do nothing. We got the same 24 hours.

You understand? I don't have nothing more than you. Nothing. I done been broke a million times. I didn't came back. I didn't slept out my car. You for two months and nobody knew about it. Like, you understand?

So it's like, I've been through mad shit. I almost got raped. You know, had a DV situation. Like, you know, I've been through a lot of stuff that a lot of people who looking at me don't know that I used to really care about people's feelings. Like, care. You know how you sit down and you'd be like, man, I don't give a fuck. I used to say that and I used to give a fuck.

Like, I gave a fuck. Like, I really did care how people, because if it could make me upset, I care. If it could make me get out of my character way, I want to find where you at, smack your daughter. You feel of me? Beat your mother up. Spit on grandma. Like, I'm upset. So going to jail

I like how you ran on that family tree just now You did that effilessly Yeah mama daughter first Then mama and your grandma Youngest the old I'm getting everybody You know 8 through 80

Ongly and crazy Tight family unit So going to jail Is what changed me a lot And not because I didn't have a phone At that too I didn't have a phone And when my family or friends Used to come and tell me about stuff

On the outside that people were saying Sometimes to be like listen listen Listen bitch Let me tell you something Can I escape? Are you going to make me escape? because there's nothing I could do about the outside right now. I cannot, there's a lot of people who could jail both ways.

I can't jail worrying about the outside. I can only jail worrying about what's going on in here because this is the only thing I can control. I can't control out there. I can't stop a person from writing this. I can't talk back. I can't, you know, defend myself. So I stopped caring about Instagram and what people said, like, I didn't care.

Like it really doesn't affect me. And I could see that it still affects her. And I can't tell her nothing because I was that. I was that same girl. I was that, it took me going to jail. And it's like, I told her like, yo, you ain't gonna never feel it. You know why?

Because you ain't gonna never not have your phone. Yeah, I'm gonna give Cardi a book called digital minimalism because I see how it affects her too. She'll read, but when is she gonna have the time to?

Like, you understand? When is she really gonna have the time to sit down and read a book? Like, she does a million things in the day. Like, even when I call her and she doesn't pick up, I curse her the fuck out. Bitch, I know you're on your phone

looking at Instagram. Answer the phone. Because your phone is in her hand all day looking at something on Instagram. You understand? Like, she's just, it affects her. It really, really affects her to the point where

I could see like she'd get upset shit, shit start crying. You understand? She'd, shit, it looked like she don't want to eat. Like, it'll really, really affect her and it's like, damn, that was me. It's got to be tough for her, too, because that's how she came up. Like, I started fucking with Cardi because of the gram. So, like, that was her thing. So now she's just mega superstars.

That shit got to be multiplied times a million. Yeah, like, she really, like, and it really, you know when a person really gets upset, like she really, it really affects her. Like, it's not something that, oh, she's just doing this for clout. It really affects her. It really gets her mad when she's minding her business. So, you know, people just basically hating on her, discovering her and stuff like that.

It really gets to her and it's like, it really used to get to me too. So what I look like sitting here telling her, yo don't let that shit get to you when it took me going to jail not to let it get to me. It didn't take me being outside. I didn't have the strength outside for me not letting it get to me.

It took me going to jail and not having a fucking choice for me to grow up and just be like, you know what? I don't give a fuck. So I know it's not going to get different for her. She's always going to have her phone. Have you had to fuck somebody up for Cardi ever?

Yeah. Yeah. And I will always continue to warn you. But at a certain point in time, it's bad for business to answer every single person that says something. No, okay. So back in the day, back in the day, I used, listen, back in the day, I used to always like going underneath her comments, people who says getting her mad, defend her, curse them out, blah, blah, blah. I used to do all that. Like, you understand, I used to pop out and stuff like that. Now it was just to the point where I let people talk because it doesn't affect me. You understand? I let people talk. But if it ever comes to a situation where I'm around her Or if I'm around a certain person

And they're disrespecting her Even if her not being there You're not gonna disrespect my friend Like you feel me Whether she's here or not here So it gets a blows But as far as the social media thing I don't do the social media thing no more

Because I'm over it now You understand? But then I was arguing with any And everybody I was taking on whoever Yeah but you can't give people Too much power like that You give them power And that's how I feel I feel like now

But at that point of time I don't give a fuck about giving you A little Instagram power Like you feel me see me Like come pop out I want to put my hands on you. Like, you're saying? Because my friend is sad.

My friend is calling me and she's sad. Have you ever caught one of those Instagram trolls in real life? No. I always wonder how fun is that. That's got to be some type of joy. Listen, there's so many that I want to catch them in real life, but I have not catching them in real life. And on top of that, caught them in real life.

And on top of that, I'd really be not paying attention to how certain people look. So it was even a situation, I got into a situation with Fetty Wobbs, one of his, like, old bitches or some shit like that. And she used to be talking shit about me. on the gram, right? It had to take my friend to be like, oh, you know what that's her? For me to be like, oh, that is her. Grab her and drag her. You know what I don't even realize that that's you, bitch.

As soon as you was reminded. You was just living your best life, not realizing like, oh yeah, she doesn't know what to me. Oh, no, bitch, somebody told me it's you. So it's like, I get a lot of that. Like, I have to ask, a lot of times I have to ask my manager. Who's that again? That is that person, right? And hopefully Alex is lying to you if she knows people you have beef with. Listen, just the other day, ask Alice. I said Alice, Alex. A situation approaches me while I'm going to meet her for a business meeting. This is business now.

You understand? I'm going to meet her for a business meeting. And her and Dustin, I have a business meeting. Salute to Dustin. And she comes up to me. A girl comes up to me that I know from like a while ago, you know, like from high school and stuff like that. And she comes to me like, girl, what's up? It's a problem.

You see, the old star would have been like, boop, boop, boop. Now it was a problem. You know what I'm like, it's not a problem because it really isn't. It really isn't a problem. But I told her it's not a problem, but we could take it wherever you want to take it. And I automatically grabbed, like, as soon as she came, I gave my phones to Alex, like, here, hold us. So she's thinking this is a friend of somebody or probably somebody that wanted to take a picture with me. So when she realized what it really is, now she gets closer.

You feel me? So now I'm like, okay, Alex is down the rock. I didn't know my manager is ready to get it shaking, too, but okay. So then I'm looking at the girl, and I'm like, you feel of me okay? She can't get 10% of you dead. Right? Very true. Not yet anyway.

Let's get her eye first. Where was it? Get a catalog. So then I'm sitting in, I'm telling her, I'm telling the girl, like, it's no issue, but, you know, it's wherever you want to take it. Like, you feel I mean? She's like, oh, all right, I just thought it. I'm like, well, it's no issue, but wherever you want it to go, it could go. And it's like just simple things like that where I'm minding my business.

I'm trying to better myself. I just came home from jail. I'm going to a business meeting. And somebody from the past from high school, which I've been out of high school for probably seven, eight years or something. Like, you know, comes and approaches a situation. that probably was from seven, eight years ago that I don't even remember what the real situation is. And it's like, it could have just went the total opposite because if it was me before jail, I just been like, fuck it.

Like, you're pressing me. Like, you feel me? For you to even come to me and ask me, is there a problem? Obviously, you want one. No, are you going to leave this young lady alone? Of course. Like, I don't have, like, I really, if I really didn't have an issue, I would have told her, like, if it was the issue, I'd have been like, yeah, there's an issue. What's up?

You understand? I told her, like, no, there's no issue. There's no problem. But if you want one, if you want to take it, they're cool. But I really had no problems because that girl was really a friend of mine at one point in time. I don't even know where we fell off at. Like, I don't even know why we not friends like we was because that was really a close friend of mine. Like we went to suspension schools and everything.

Like, you understand because we fight together. So it's like I don't understand where it went wrong. But just like a situation like that where I'm trying to move forward, you could just easily just get pushed back. So what does Starbrim want to do moving forward? You're speaking things into fruition right now Okay, so a lot of people Just because, you know, I have a social following And because I have a lot of people

That's in the industry that I'm cool with Like, you know, not only Cardi, but I'm cool with Remy. You know, Lala, a lot of people. Shout out to Remy. She was the first person that ever put money on my books And nobody knows that And she put money on my books every single month And I didn't even know her like that

That's another person I did not even know She put $300 on my books every single month for the time that I was in jail. And as soon as I got sentenced and I went downstairs and I checked my account, money was there from Mackey. Did you meet her beforehand? I seen one time I had a club

because I had a big fight in a club. So she remembered that big fight that I had in the club. And then I seen had two different other occasions where you know she was performing at a club and it was just, I mean, at a concert and we just, you know, hi, whatever. You know a little thing like that. But it wasn't no real.

We got close while I was in jail. Like we got real close while I was in jail. What was the fight that happened in the club that Remy saw? Because Remy respects violence. Okay, yes. No, she does. So you must have really been putting in work for the woman in your book. Yeah, act, I was fighting as one bitch and some other bitches tried to jump in, and I was just brolling with all of them.

You feel me? But at one point of time, people's recording it, somebody kicked me with a sock on. And the sock looked very dirty. So I went on Instagram, and I had a video, and I was like, I have money for whoever could find me this sock. Whoever this dirty-ass sock belongs to? That's like the hoods than Dorella shit, yo. Send her, send a fellowship. Whoever the sock belongs to, I'm willing to pay $10,000 to find this bitch.

Wow. You get her. Because first of all, you kicked me with a sock, and third of all, it was dirty. That's it. You couldn't kick me with a clean socks? Cannot do that. You couldn't have a clean, why are you having a sock on in the club? You feel me?

Why do you even have no shoes on? If you're going to have no shoes on, have some slippers on, why the fuck would you have on a dirty-ass sock? And this party just begun. So you can't tell me you was walking around the party. No. You got that dirty sock. Yes, you showed up with a dirty sock. So when that happened, the fight that I put that up and stuff like that,

Remy came under and she was like, yeah, bitches, where's the sock? Where's the sock, where's the sock with the sock? Like, you feel me, where's the bitch with the sock? We got the money for the bitch with the sock. And then we just got close like that and stuff like that. What if that was a person you beat up back in the day with a sock? And they were trying to get revenge. And that's how I felt like.

Whoa. I was fighting one person. Then all of a sudden I'm fighting five. Like, you know, and that's how it always usually is in clubs. When our fight is like, now it's like, oh yeah, we got free fall. Let's get star. How tall are you? I'm five, three and a half.

Get the fuck out of here. Count my half. With the soul of a six-fold, nigga. Yeah. I have a fright on my phone. I'll show you it later. I would love to see it now. What time, um...

Thank you. I mean, uh, did you ever find the girl? The sock girl? No, never found the sock girl. Okay, so Remy leaves the comment and y'all fool ever since. Yeah, we cool ever since. And, um, where do I see myself, you said? That's, that was the original question.

What's the, what's the... Okay, so, okay, this is, hold on. Let me see this picture. Hello. Let me talk. I'm about to snatch your phone. Damn, I got a fine. Listen, I got a lot of.

Everybody get your cameras out. Let's see how to go. It's lit. It's super lit in here after that. Okay. I think this is it. How many fights you got in this, though? I have a lot.

Just pick one and then I'll start there. I'm going to show you. No, don't show. Why? Because there's a lot of videos in here. You don't have any penisesises, do you? Yes. What the fuck is penisesisuses?

Penises. Oh. You didn't say that. Yo, come on, bro. I'm wearing the red dress. And one of the times I spit on a girl and then I punched her and then she felt. Okay, let me see what we got going on here. Oh, you are in the club.

Yeah, I'm in the club. This is very good. This is a lot of phones out here. Everybody is moving. Oh, wow. You're very rambunctious. You're in the middle. I see you.

Oh, wow. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So basically, a lot of people want me to be a rapper, right? A lot of people always been saying that I should be a rap, I should be a rapper.

But I feel like I wanted to do my own lane. You know what I wanted something that is for me. So I do definitely want to see where the podcast thing goes because I feel I'm very outspoken. I feel like it'll go somewhere. But I just want to do something that makes me happy. I don't want to do what other people want me to do. I don't want to follow my friends' footsteps. You know, only because I'm at a point in my life where a lot of things don't

affect me. And I don't want people to be like, oh, she's only a rapper because of Cardi. Oh, she only made it because of Cardi. Oh, she didn't make it because of Cardi. Oh, you know what I'm going to say? It's going to be because of car. I'm Cardi's friend, yeah, but I'm Starbrim at the end of the day. Like, you understand, like, I was Starbrim and known before Cardi.

Because y'all know because of Cardi, that's your fault. Like, you understand, that's not my fault that you know me because of her. I don't want to do something that doesn't make me happy. Whatever I do, it's not about the money no more. I've been broken many times. I don't care about that. Have you ever tried to rap? No, I have never tried.

Let's start right now. Let's do it. I don't think you should rap either. I just think you got an ill story. You and I can battle. How much money? I got bars. Let me see.

I'm here. Hold on. No, no pulling out the phone. No, I'm pulling out money. Oh, okay. Oh, wow. You can be a disrespectful. That's it.

This one, two, three, four U.S. Doll. I got four U.S. dollars. I can't even do nothing with that. You can't even do nothing with that. A five? I couldn't get five dollars. I'd spend it on the way here on the water and the coffee.

Damn, I don't know what to tell you, too. I'm not in. You're not in? I'm not in. Do you know how many tuna sandwiches you can get with four dollars? Nothing. Like in the city at that? I don't even think I get one.

I need 25 cents at least. Damn, Star, you're probably right. I just think you got an ill story. And it's just a way to tell that story. Maybe it doesn't have to be rap, though. I mean, Tax had this great story, and it was through podcast. That's what she does. Yeah, that's a cute Bute podcast.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It just so happened that is number one today. It came out. Oh, it's out already? Yes, out already. It came out at 8 o'clock today, and it's number one in music and number 75 worldwide. I love it. Is this a loudspeaker network podcast?

Yes. Of course it is. Briss Moreau. You know that guy. Prism. What? You know what to say. No, but Briss Moreau, it's actually double meaning because a bris is when you cut the circumcise.

But now what we call him Pris Moreau, dude. Briss Marl. Dude, I love this new language. Respect the bees. What are you talking about on the podcast? On this podcast, I'm talking about my jail experience. I'm also talking about, I forgot the girl's name. Oh my God, I'm so mad.

I forgot her name. She's a new, like, no, she's not a new artist, but she has that song motivation, and she had, like, the video that just came out. I don't know where that is. Alex, who. No, Moni. No, Moni.

I was talking about her. I really, really like her, like, especially because... She don't want to battle me neither. A lot of people that don't know. I used to dance when I was young, like, not strip dancing, but, you know, I used to do ballet and stuff like that. So I really like that she was doing her thing.

And then on top of it... You should do ballet? Yes. You know, I come from a dance family. Don't let me lift this leg up because you know I can go all the way up. I'm just saying. I'm going to do second position, third position, four position. Yes, I can do all.

Do you want to see a picture of me in my ballet outfit? I mean, duh. Like, I am lit. Girl, now you got me. Now my mic. But my podcast is talking about a lot of jail experience that I had because of who my friend is. A lot of people think that a lot of people think that I had the best jail sentence. Because of Cardi B, I had the worst jail sentence.

Ever. Because everybody knew that was your friend. I had CO spitting in my food. Let's make an example. No. Yes, I had CO spinning in my food for five months in the box. I didn't eat. I ate oranges, bananas, and potato chips because I could peel it.

You understand? They had a protective covering. Yes. Other than that, I didn't eat it because once I see you spinning my food one time, I'm not going to trust that you not keep doing. Why would they do that? They don't like Cardi? They don't like that.

She was anti-Trump. Like, you understand? Like, they don't like that. They used to come in like, who the fuck is her to talk about my president? Fuck you now. Like, you understand? Like, they'll take it out on me. They would cut my water off for three days.

My water was off and I was drinking out my toilet water. Wow. That's why. Yeah, I drank toilet water. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah, what am I going to do? That's so crazy. So basically Trump supporters that were the CEOs and shit.

Yeah, a lot of CEOs who just didn't like, you know, that I guess I was who I am on Instagram because they used to follow my Instagram. Even when she shouted me out on my birthday, I didn't know. I knew because they came and started harassing me. And, you know, doing like a whole bunch of fuck shit because she did that. I don't have a phone. I don't know what she's doing. You understand?

But they came like, oh, is your fucking birthday? Fuck out of you. You think you're the shit because it's your birthday. They would throw my food on the floor. They would not give me tissue. So after a while,

when I'm laying on the sheets, I would rip up and I would have to use that to wipe my ass. Oh, my goodness. What am I going to use to wipe the shit off my ass? What about your period on? I didn't get my period in jail. I had,

before I went to jail, I made sure to get like the nerve plant thing that's in your arm. I made sure, like, I pre-plant this so that I didn't get my period in jail because I know I'll probably be a different person. You know, so it's like it prevents you from getting your period. It was like a birth control in your arm.

You can stop periods? Yeah. This is like 2019. What are you talking about? Can you write this down from? What is the name of this thing? You didn't know that? A neuro plant?

It's like, it's so many different birth controls that doesn't make you get your period. Yeah, you can even get depot shots. Do it the old-fashioned way. Shoot her goddamn club up. Exactly. All right. Get a pregnant. I wasn't catching my period

while I was in there. So right now, podcast and your immediate future. Yes. Like, I even came home fucked up. Like, I didn't, I spoke about that on the podcast too because I came home not even realizing that you could eat. Like, you can eat. You're free now.

Like, you can eat when you want to eat. Like, you understand? Like, I had to the point where it's like, first meal. What was your first meal? My first meal wasn't even my first meal because the first day I was home. I forgot that I'm allowed to eat.

My first legit meal. My first legit meal was, sore fish and collude that my grandmother made. Sawfish and ballude? Yeah, that, you know? Can we be respectful to set? Can we be respectful to set? All right, she unlocking her purse, B.

You got that kind of. You were trying to give me some money? I keep trying to tell you. You were trying to give me some money. Wow. I'm trying to tell you. Stop. Right.

Stop correcting me. What is it? What is it? What is it? You don't want to know. You don't want to know. Oh, it looks like those crest floss strips. Right.

It's going to floss you are right. You're going to get flossed, right? Ginger Biden's in the face. Bleed not your cheese. I forgot that I could eat, you know, and then I used to sit there at my window. I talked about this. Institutionalized. Yes, I was so institutionalized.

I used to sit there at the window. My mom will call me, right? So she would call me and I just be like, and she's like, what the fuck are you smiling at? I'm like, nothing. What are you talking about? She's like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm at the window. I'm watching people outside.

So she's like, she's like, okay. Go outside. Listen, listen, listen. She's like, okay, no, I'm in halfway house. I can't go outside. I'm not yet, you know? So I'm like, she's like, okay, so then she called back in like an hour later and I'm doing the same thing.

So she's like, why the fuck are you at the window? I'm like, listen, let me tell you something. This is the first time in five months that I could see people in my box. Because they don't like me. They covered up my window. So for five months, I didn't know whether it was six o'clock, seven o'clock, The only time I, the only reason I knew it was anything is because at 6 o'clock in the morning, that's when your breakfast tray would come around at 11 o'clock, you know, lunch tray, stuff like that.

And I used to only hear people outside. I would hear sirens. I would hear sirens. I would hear dogs barking. I would hear it, but I wasn't able to see it. So I didn't even realize that I'm happy to see construction workers and just people walking down a block and I didn't even realize it until my mom is like, get out the window. And it's like, I can see people. Like, I'm seeing the voices and connecting faces with the voices.

I'm not just sitting somewhere for five fucking. In months. What did that do you have mental health? What did that do you in mental health? Go a little crazy a little bit? Brazy, if you will. Stop correcting, Mike. I corrected me.

You know what? You're doing it. I said brazy. I said what I said. I said what I said. I think you got a crush on me. No. Or a brush, if you will.

I'm not into light skin guys. Oh, my God. I don't like pink dicks. You don't like pink dicks? No. What about beige? No. Mine's more beige.

Black. Man, it ain't black. I promise you that. If it's black, something wrong. I like, brown. So what does that do to your mental health? Um, I guess it fucked it up a little, but I didn't notice it.

You know, I didn't realize it that it was fucking it up. I didn't realize that I'm going days, only eating one meal a day, not realizing like, oh shit, Star, you're free. You could eat. Like, you understand? You're allowed to eat. Like, I would really, I was so used to starving for five fucking months. I didn't.

second nature. Like I didn't even, it didn't bother me no more. I was, I'm always hungry. That's how I live life. Like, you understand, I'm always hungry. I survived on bananas and oranges for five fucking months. Like, I survived drinking water out of the fucking toilet. Like, you know, like, this is what I survived on. Like, this is, this was life. Like, you understand? And it was normal. It got so normal. Like, even times, like, it was times where, um, I get an apple, because it's not all the time you get oranges and I would just have to starve that day because they're giving apples on trays today. Like, you understand? Or they're giving fruit that's not, that's just like, you know,

mixed fruit that's just out in like sauce and water and shit like that. You can't trust it. You're probably spinning that. I'm not even having. Have you gotten back to a sense of normalcy yet? Not all the way. Sometimes I still forget to eat. Sometimes I still have that, I don't know, like, I just still have certain things that I catch on to

like, yo, sis, you forgot to eat today. Or you don't have to be so aggressive or you don't have to be, you know, so angry or don't worry about it. Like, you're not in there. Like, you understand you're fine. Like, you're not in there. You don't have to walk around with the scaffold between your butt cheeks. Like, you know, you don't have to do that. But it's certain things that I'm appreciative of, like,

just being able to be outside. Like, you understand? Being able to walk around freely that I just always look at, like, yo, I don't know if shit get me mad. Like, I was just, look where I was at. Look where I was at. I wasn't even in regular jail. Like, and I wasn't in regular box.

I was in the box getting tortured. Mm-hmm. I was in tortured. They wasn't giving me, no, you know what I was being tortured. They wasn't giving me my mails. They were spitting in my food. They was not giving me my mail at times. time they was hanging up my phone calls.

They was doing stuff that they don't normally do to people, but because I'm who I'm connected to, this is what they was doing to me. So it's not like I just had a regular jail sentence and they just took away my freedom. No, y'all took away everything. But I always had that mentality like, y'all can handle me like this in here, but y'all wouldn't even live to talk about it outside if y'all did this to me. Like, you understand? Like, you wouldn't even be able to do this to me on the outside.

So you could have it. You could power struggle. You could have that. You understand. Y'all could do what y'all got to do in here because you probably one of those motherfuckers I picked on in school. You know you probably was getting bullied your whole life And now you have a sense of power

So you're trying to use it But it's okay because you know what bitch You can't do that to me outside And it was all because Cardi didn't like Trump That was one of the reasons It was not like it was reasons because just because of who she is They just I guess didn't like her They didn't like me

They didn't like that Like they would come around like oh you think you pop it Because you got 8000 in your account Like you know shit like that That it's like why are you even watching my account You broke nigga Like you for me it's not my fault That you're broke

It's not my fault Skim it's okay can do it too. That's why I'm in here. That's why that's there. You can do the same thing. If you want to scam, you know, nobody's stopping you from scamming, right? Like, I had to tell him, nobody's stopping you from selling drugs. And they used to be so upset. Like, I remember one officer told me that he did so much time

in the Navy, and now he only gets less than $45,000 a year working here. So a lot of people's upset. Like, you know, he was really upset. Like, you get less than that. It's one lady says she only gets $35,000 a year. So some of that is like, what, a McDonald's worker? Yeah, yeah. Because if a McDonald's a McDonald's and stuff to make $15 an hour, that

That's basically kind of like your salary in a way. But you're in here. You feel me dealing with people who could cut your face open if you move the wrong way. Massive risk for that kind of money. Yeah. So it's like they're upset. They're sitting here reading people case files

knowing, oh yeah, this person had a mansion. This person had this. This person had a Porsche or this type of car and I'm driving this. You know, like, that's what they're seeing. There's a lot of envy and jealousy. Yeah, they look through that. Like the officers look through your case files

and they see, oh, this person was this bigger drug dealer, this person, bigger of a this and this big of a that. So they, they, they, upset about it. Star, this is my guy Humble the Poet. He's an author. Hi. He's a rapper too.

But he's very intellectual. What have you observed? Yo, this is a dope interview, man. I got said to that. Yeah, put it on the chair. That'd be a lot better, I think. What is your assessment of Star Brim? Oh, me.

I love it. Irrespective of every story that she told, how she's still very considerate other people's feelings. She wasn't, you know, talking about the person transitioning and she was still trying to be very considered of that person.

And I also love that no matter how much bullshit she went through, she wasn't eliciting any sympathy. She didn't sound like she was feeling sorry for herself. No, not at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You just sound like you own everything that you've done. You know why? Because I feel like I did a crime. If I didn't do this and I was in here and I didn't do it,

then it's like I'm getting all this. I feel like I have no rights. You have no rights in jail. And I went to jail knowing that. I prepped. I knew that I was going to jail. You know, I got mentally, physically and financially be ready to go in.

So I knew, like, at the end of the day, Star, if you're in Skim, you wouldn't be here. And if you, you wouldn't be going through this. No officer would be able to do this to you. So who the fuck are you to complain about something you did? I'm in here. I did that shit. I'm not in here for wrong. Like, no, I wasn't wrongly convicted.

They got it right. I did this shit. You feel me? I'm in here because I did a fucking crime. And I felt like no crime is big in another crime. I don't respect rapists and I don't respect serial killers. But other than that, I don't give a fuck of his tax evasion. I don't give a fuck if you selling drugs, selling your ass.

A crime is a crime. There's no bigger crime, no less crime. You broke the law, period. And pedophiles. I have pedophiles. Yeah, of course. I don't, I don't respect anything else. So it's like, I know what I did.

I know why I'm in here. I'm not wrongly convicted. So if this is what I got to do because I did wrong or well. Like, I'm not right. No, Humble said something just not that interesting because you said you don't have empathy for people at one point. You said you got there a little bit?

I said I don't be caring about stuff in the street. Like I just walked past. Yeah, yeah. But you do have empathy for your people, I guess. I have empathy and sympathy for them. Yeah. Yeah. Of course.

I care for them. Yeah, it seems like you do, you seem like you are filled with a lot of empathy. Yeah. Of course. I just, I just mind the business

that is not my business, but if you're my friend or somebody close to me, you're my business. Even when she's talking about, like, what she's willing to do moving forward. It's like she'll take a charge.

She'll take the time or whatever. Like, that's, that's some grown adult responsibility shit, even though she's talking from a street perspective. I thought that was super cool. I thought that what you brought up

about the trans thing was really interesting. Here's this person that is trying to rape her and you're still being respectful of how they want to be labeled. Yeah, I'm, it's not, it's not more so how they want to be labeled. It's more so how I'm going to be labeled because at the end of the day, now I'm going to be a rat because.

No, but, no, no, I'm saying like, you were saying him, she, her. Yeah, I guess, I don't know. Like, if you try to rape me, I'm going to call you whatever to fuck. A rapist. Yeah, like, you know, he or she, whatever the fuck. You were rapists. You're a piece of shit. I guess I do have that.

Like, yeah, I'll just be one like, you are what you are. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I'm not going to disrespect you because you try to rape me. I guess what's wrong, right? That's the perfect time usually. No, like, fuck him. That's how I'm a disrespect. But in the day, you're at him because that's what you're changing into.

At the end of the day, I would never want somebody to tell me, you know, to call me something that I'm not. Like, I don't give a fuck what I did to you, bitch, I'm a girl. Like, you know what I did to you. At the end of the day, you know the fuck I'm doing. I'm transitioning. Like, I respect my shit. I will.

So it's like, I don't know. Like, it's weird. That's a bar, too. What? To spend time in the box because I wouldn't give him the box. Yes. And I'm going to tell you something else.

I've heard a lot of jail rape stories. Yeah. I've never heard a woman being raped by somebody who's transitioning. That's a different take on this. Yeah. My first two days in jail, I've seen a girl get raped next to me. People would be thinking that just because you're inside of a female person that it doesn't happen. It happens.

Rape by who? Another girl, yeah. With the whole A-SPandage thing? No, sticking stuff up them, like plunges. and, you know, things that just don't belong up there. And the thing is, I mind my business. I'm new to the jail. I don't know what she did.

You understand? I don't know what she did to get that. Like, not that anybody deserves it. But I'm not going to be next because I'm jumping into this. And she probably did something to you. Or, you know, there's a lot of people, like a lot of females that's in jail that's for touching kids. And they get, they get handled. You understand?

They don't respect that. So for all I know, she could be a child toucher. Right. So who are you, you're not going to protect this. Yeah, I'm not protecting you, bitch. Yeah. I'm like that in the screen, though. If something's going on,

you know, you see somebody jumping on somebody, I don't know what the fuck that person did. Like, even when it comes to driving, when I first used to sit here and I used to drive and people used to try to get in front of me and stuff like that, I'm aggressive driving. So I used to be like, fuck out of here. I'm not letting them through, you know,

Bullgarding, but now I feel like, what about they're rushing to go to somebody in the hospital? What about they're rushing to go to their kid? What about they rushing because somebody's getting jumped that they need to go save. So now I get the fuck out the way. You understand? It is what it is.

But before my mentality used to be like, fuck that. But now it was like they're probably rushing to actually go somewhere they need to go. That's a New York thing though because I feel like we grow up here where we're constantly being hustled. Like someone on the street is coming up to you every second. Like, hey, you got a little money for the environment or hey, you got this, hey you got this, hey you got this. So when someone cuts us off, we're like, oh, you thought you could take it management? You could do that to me?

Yeah, exactly. To me? But I noticed that like friends of mine who aren't from New York or aren't from the city, like, you know, like nice suburban parts of California, they don't have that same angst. They say, ah, let them go. Who gives a fuck? I mean, I hate people that get rolling away. Like, why are you tripping for? Like, let them go.

Who gives the shit? Yeah, yeah. Who gives a fuck? Yeah, it's smart, man. Well, Star, give me your Instagrams and twitters and all of that good stuff. Okay, so my Instagram is Star underscore Brim 5. And it's, okay, my Twitter is Star Brim 2. Okay, we're going to take a break for a second, pay some bills right here.

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I want to listen to them. But you know, I don't even listen to my own podcast. Like, I'm nervous to hear my voice because I'm scared. So I don't listen to my podcast. And I have been told not to listen to none because I don't want to, they don't want me to, like, follow it. Like, you understand. They want me to like, Tax want me to have my own guideline. So he doesn't want me to listen to anything because he feels like, I don't want you to feel like you have to do it this way or you have to do it that way.

Just be you. So I just be like, you know, okay, I'm not going to listen to none. but I have never listened to no podcast. That's interesting advice. No, that's the best advice. Yeah, that's what he told me. He told me, don't listen to shit. I just want you.

Even Dustin said that. He said, don't listen to shit because I want you to be you. So I don't want you to co-on there saying, oh, yeah, damn, I maybe should be like this. I should talk like this. I should be like that. So they like, no, just go on and just be star. And it's like, oh, what about they don't like a star? I never knew how to do radio.

So when I first started doing radio, I was just a motherfucker fresh off the dirt road, amongst going to South Carolina, and going in there drunk high and just talking. And I still don't know how to do that shit. You know what I'm saying? 22 years later. So that's just, yes, that's the best advice he could give you. You know why?

Because it stops you from trying to get them to like you. You just said something interesting. You're like, well, what if they don't like Star? There are people out there that will like Star. And there are people that don't like Star. And there are unapologetically yourself, you can get those people that do like you to gravitate to you and you don't ever have to fake being you.

You have unlimited content for the rest of your life. You could only fake be someone for so long. For so long. It's only so long fake thugs can pretend. And they get exposed. Like I tell my manager, I'm just, in a point of my life where I'm just like, at space and at peace. So it's like now when I'm opening myself, I'm opening myself up.

I'm opening for you to judge me. I'm telling you stuff about me that you never know. So it's like I'm giving people a reason to know me now. Like, you know, and it's like it's scary because you're playing. Like, you know, you're judging me. Like I'm all extraming. Well, back to what you said. You're vulnerable.

This is being vulnerable. I'm being judged right now. And it's like I'm not used to it because I'd rather be judged for people who like, oh, whatever, she don't know me. But for me to now put out my life story and to tell certain things about me and as being judge, it's like, bitch, you think I'm playing? Like, I'll fuck you up. Like, you feel like I don't be wanting bad judgment or anybody to say anything about me

because I feel like it's going to hurt my feelings and I'm going to go back to how I was and I don't want to be back like that. And you shouldn't. But here's the thing, you went through all of those experiences for a reason to have a story to tell. And now, you know, even going to therapy every week, that's going to help you to be able to not just tell that story but understand that story

a little bit more. So you got content for you forever. That's psychis. Very scary. Why? Just because you make you feel? No, I never, we never really actually got a chance

to speak because I kept avoiding different meetings and stuff like that. So tomorrow's when it's first time that I'm going to actually get to speak. Do it. But it's just, I don't know. Like, I don't know how to bring it up. I don't know what to, you know, I don't know what to do.

You just sat here for two hours. It's not your job. You just talk, hell. And went, I mean, I mean, I know, listen. But you're talking to me It's different. This is a sight.

Listen, I understand it must be nice to sit across from me and look at me for two hours. I'm aware of this. Listen, I get it. I completely get it, okay? You do? I do.

I've seen myself before. It's pretty fucking amazing. I don't want to see you with no white guy. If you end up with Andrew, I'm going to be like, yo, what the fuck? Listen. Listen, listen.

That's my little sis. I'm not even into the light skin guys. So now for me to go to white, it's like, come on that. Yo, by the way, I just bot blocks you. No, no. I was about to say, I'm not going to lie. I'm dark-skinned white.

You can't even get the tuna at this point. I don't even care about it. I can't even get the tuna? Nope. That's foul, dude. I thought we built something. Now, what are we talking about here now? I don't know.

Tuna, or like? No, the other tuna. Oh, all right, okay. It better not be tuna. No, the, I'm a called tuna. You can't make tuna salad without some mayonnaise. I'm a right. I just mustard.

Humble is the mustard. You're open me in this. Are you, fuckers. We are cooking, ladies and gentlemen. We are cooking. But no, truthfully, though, always remember, and whatever you do, three people are going to like it, three people are not going to like it, and four people are just going to be transitioning.

And I'm going to be mad at three people for not liking it. No, why? You can't focus on that. Guys, why the fuck you don't like real shit? What kind of person are you if you don't respect the realness? Like, just like you said, I'm really. The majority of people. They might be fake.

Find yourself if you're fake. Yeah, but that's not your job to help them. How can you not respect them? That's what they're doing. When they hate on you, they're telling their story. You know what I mean? Like, that's exactly what they. So if they say to you like, yo, she's only popping because of Cardi, that's them saying, like, I can't accept that she did something on her own.

I'm going to make up an excuse as to why she's successful. So I don't feel bad about myself. You know what I mean? I like him. You said you mustard? Chill out, bro. Chill out, humble. Chill out, yo.

Yeah, that's mine right. Now, he got a hell. Humble got a book called Unlearned that is really, really dope, and it's so easy to read. I think you would really, really like it. We'll get you the book. We'll get you the book. The fact about Star Brim, I read a book a day.

Word. What's the last book you read? The boy called It. Ooh. Isn't that based off a movie or something? No, that was just shit. Yes. Wow.

So you like fiction? I like everything. I like suspense. I like mystery. I like scientific books. I like basically anything that would probably catch my attention. But even in the box. You ever read the autobiography of Malcolm X?

I have never read. That's the one you got to read. Yeah. That's the one. Yeah. Because that's the, that's the, to me,

that's the greatest story of growth and evolution ever. Like, I read, like, I have a whole bunch of, like, regular books, but then, you know, I got the app on my phone

where, you know, I buy books and stuff like that. You can listen to them, too. A lot of people, don't know that I, and I've been like that since I was young. I read almost a book of that. I can tell by the way you articulate.

Yeah, I do. When you say, So when you say you don't have intellect, I'm like, who told you that? I don't feel like I have it as, maybe, okay, so let me take that back. I don't think I, not that I don't have intellect. I think that I don't have growth like him. Like, you know, like personal growth. He's older than you.

Give yourself time in therapy. Come on. Star is coming. I'm really upset that you keep saying therapy. I go every week. That's you. This is me. This is you.

Like, stop trying to put what you do on me. I think it's going to be good for you, though. It's going to really help with your growth. I really do. I don't think my men. agrees with that. Alex, you don't like therapy for? I do.

She's lying. She's lying. She told me not to go. He did. 10 years ago. No, for real. If you don't... Hopefully is...

If you don't give you good advice to the people that you care about, are you even a good friend? Of course not. That's what I'm saying, is he's trying to do right here. He's not trying to change you. He's not trying to do anything. He would never recommend something

that he would think would hurt you. He has you here because he believes in you, right? He asks you to come. So if he's giving you more advice, is somebody that actually has your best interest at heart. He's not making no money off you. I don't think he would ever tell me.

Listen, I don't think he would ever tell me that's not going to, you know, benefit me. Exactly. But sometimes, what you might think benefits me might not benefit. But if you don't try it, you don't know, right? Of course. So that's why I'm going tomorrow. I have no choice. Hey.

Judge told me, I got to go. You know what I have? Like, I have no choice. He's either go back to jail for not going to therapy or be outside. I'm going to go. I'm going to go to therapy. Like, I'm not going to jail for that. That's not tough.

You know, like, but sometimes, like, I honestly don't ever feel him or anybody that's close to me will ever tell me anything that's not right. But sometimes you might feel is right and it might not be right for me. It might not be right for you. That's all right. But also, don't they say like therapy is a mirror. It's not someone telling you what to do.

They're just trying to help you figure out who you are. That's it. You know what the thing is too? I just really feel like I'm going to be so I'm going to get back into like I'm going to go backwards. You know, I'm going to sit here and relive everything. And I don't want it to make me angry again because I was angry. But you know what?

There's science. There's actual science behind that. You know what I feel like it's going to take me back to the point where I'm going to be mad at my mom and I'm going to be upset at this because I'm reliving it. You will. I don't want to. There's some real signs behind this. Not now. So here's the thing.

Let's do this in the future. I can't deal with this right now. But the thing is that bullshit is hovering over you. So now there's only two choices. You wait for that bullshit to catch up to you or you turn around and face the bullshit. And there's science behind it that people who voluntarily revisit trauma heal quicker. Yeah. I'd rather heal later.

I'm all right with it. It's honest about it. I can't hate on that. But it's going to catch you with you either way. I just did three months a halfway house, which I wasn't really free. Freedom now has been two months. I personally don't feel I'm ready to go back to being that angry person.

You only been home too much? Like free, yeah. Oh, shit. Why that's something like it's longer? Because I was in halfway house. So I was sneaking outside and stuff like that. And I was on the gram. But I wasn't really free.

I still had to go to a place where I'm in a cell. You know what I'm sleeping on jail beds. I only get six hours outside. So, you know, it seemed like I'm not. living my life because for them six hours, I'm like this, you know, camera out, I'm out here. But really, I was still basically locked up for three months. I only been really free for two months. So it's like, I don't think personally I'm ready right now, I feel like, let me be free

a little more and be happy. You'll get there. You'll do it when you're supposed to. I think you like the autobiography of Malcolm X. You should read that. This story lines up with George. You said you learned a lot going to jail. I'm definitely going to read it.

That's where he's from Harlem. Harlem. Harlem. Yeah. And then he was, his nickname was Satan. Yes. And he believed in God. I didn't believe in God until I went to jail

I had a jail mom named Yaya and she basically Like her story's crazy too because she got emancipated adult young at I think 14 because she refused to marry her cousin. She's from Saudi Arabia So like and she went to jail the first time She did 10 years and then the second time she did

15. She's the person that got me out there to like start having faith because besides like My mom and my dad besides dumb She was the only person that used to just sit there and look at me every day And be like yo you know you're beautiful You know you smart you this You know, like just basically try, like, encourage me

and just always give me kind words, and she used to always say, like, sometimes people might feel because you're so angry to approach you like, yo, you need to fucking stop. But sometimes with a person like me, you just need to love me. That's all you need to do is love me. That's it.

That's what all that human. My whole barrier just melt down, you understand? But if you come to me with, I'm coming at you like that, while other people that might work, it just doesn't work for me. Like, you know, I'm the type of person with sometimes, and she said that

with her kids, she had to learn that. She had to learn that. She can't keep coming at him. Like, yo, what the fuck is you doing? You do that. She just had to love him. What's your sign? I'm a Pisces.

Okay. Tuna. Why are you going to do that one? I'm here. I'm not a fucking tuna, Pisces. Isn't Pisces to fish? So what? Well, that's why you love tuna.

I can't be Red Snapper. That's right. Well, you didn't bring up Red Snapper. Well, I'm telling you I'm Red Snapper. Well, if they put that in a can, then you would be. You need to talk to the Sunkiss people. Listen, I can. I can.

I can't wait. No point in 10 that I can't wait to continue to see your star rise. Thank you. And I think that you can do whatever it is you put your mind to. I appreciate it. Thank you so much for having me. No, any time. Thank you for being here, Star.

Kill it. Go out there and kill it, Elle. I'm trying. I'm trying. Just hope I don't kill nobody. Listen. All right. I'm going to tell you something.

I ain't no killer, though. When we get off the air, I'm going to say that, I'll wait and tell you once we get off the air. Humble, you want to say anything? I was just going to say one more thing about that whole social media. People get, like, a lot of people get impacted by that. I think you solved it. You solved the issue just through your life. Like, you said you're in jail.

You ain't had no phone, so it didn't bother you. Like, that's all people have to do is adjust their environment. Like, I don't have social media on the phone that I carry around. I got like another old phone with all my Instagram, everything on it. Check it once or twice a day. Right? And then that's way less opportunities to just read some shit to fuck up my day. I just feel like a lot of people don't realize how hurtful some of their words are.

Like people are committing suicide Because of stuff like this Like you understand like I have feelings I'm not a robot It doesn't matter how tough I am I'm not a robot I have feelings

You understand So it's like I don't think people realize Like you really are coming out your day From doing whatever you're doing To discourage my day Yeah

What's wrong with you? Like really what's wrong with you Like for real Because I don't do that There's a million things I see on social network That I'd be like I feel like being like

What the fuck take that off I don't I don't care Like whatever I just unfollow Block don't want to see it no more Whatever you know So it's like, really? Like, so it took the time for me to go to jail and realize it,

but it's like, it's like saying it to a person, they're not going to understand it. Because if you would have said this to me, I want it. I'm just be real about it. I want to understand it. I'm not going to say it and be like, oh, yeah, I'm not taking it off my phone. No, I'm not.

Question, when women get out of jail, do they be horny? Yeah. Because they all talk about that fresh jail dick. Is there fresh jail? Yeah, like me, okay, so I used to tell people like, listen, this pussy right here, this is, this is. some auction pussy. Like, I've been in jail for a year. This is basically virgin pussy right now. Like, you feel like, I basically have virgin pussy. I haven't been fingering myself. I didn't

have no dildo in here. So this pussy is like a virgin. Like, what's up? Like, this shit right here is a treat. You know, but you definitely, definitely be horny. Especially if you wasn't doing anything in here, because my jail mom used to always tell me, play the guitar, which basically she's saying, play your strings. Like, you know, like play with your pussy, like, you'll be less angry. And it's like, I can't. First of all, I'm hearing all y'all all day. I'm not attracted to girls. Do you feel me? I don't want to play the guitar. I'm not into guitars. Yeah, scrum in my pain with my finger.

Yeah, it's like, I don't want to play the guitar. You did 15 years. You know how to play your guitar. I only did like three months so far. I don't want to play my guitar. That's the first single. Your album. You're right.

So did you lose your virginity since you've been home? Of course. I lost my virginity since I've been. Oh, okay. Yeah. First day. First day? Before you ate?

The next day. When they gave me my past year, when I was supposed to be at church. Oh. Well, somebody didn't really love God like they said. They did in jail. I found God in jail. I found dick. Come on now.

First of all, if you was locked up for all this time and your first time outside is a church pass for three hours, what you're going to do? I wouldn't go get some dick. I'd get some pussy. Exactly. Yeah.

But not for the whole three hours. Yeah. First of all, it takes time to get there. Who's fucking for three hours? No, it takes time to get there. Like, first of all, it took. Oh, got you. Three hours is three hours.

It doesn't include travel. So how far were you traveling for debt? I was traveling from the Bronx all the way to Queens for some dick and then back. Was it worth the ride? Why would he come to the Bronx? Cheap bastard? Where the fuck are we going to find anything in the Bronx? Go to a hotel.

I don't know nice hotels in the Bronx. I'm from Brooklyn. You got a point. But I know nice hotels. Okay? So I'm sorry. Even though I'm fresh home, I ain't sitting on anything now. Like you got on sat on shit in jail.

Like I ain't about to get butt naked and whip this fresh pussy out on you or no fucking motels in the Bronx. Yeah. So you went to a queen. his house or hotel? Hotel and got nasty. And got nasty. For how long? I think it probably was like 10 minutes, 10, 15 minutes.

Can you imagine if you only got three hours and then the person wants to talk? How are you? How have you been? You know somebody? I walked into the hotel room and was just like this. Take it all. Let's go.

He's looking at me like, like, what? No, but then listen, but then he's out like, okay, fuck it. I guess that's what we know. Yes, you got three hours, nigger. First of all, we only got like 30 minutes left. We still got it might be traffic.

Let's get to going. I don't want to talk. Yeah. Let's go. I talk to you all time. So you guys went at it, 10 minutes. And then after it's done, what's, is, are you like feeling relieved? Are you like?

Did you nut? Yes, I nutted a few times. I was mad because I didn't get a round two, but I was fine. Wait, you nutted a few times and you still wanted a round two. You only had three hours. I don't know how this guy was, but he didn't even think like my age. Yeah. Ain't no round two.

Ain't no round two. It's going to take about seven, eight hours to get round two. Next Sunday, you'll get round two. You know what? Was there four-play? What a girl question I asked. Is there foreplay? No, it probably was a little sucking of the nipples because that's like my spot.

You really loved that. Taylor, she was in jail. There wasn't no for play. Fucked four-play. I'm wet in the car. I'm wet in the car. I'm wet in the car thinking about what's going to go down. You were ready to go.

You feel of it? I was wet in jail thinking about what. was about to go down. Like, no, I didn't need for what? For what? For what? For what? Okay, so then you go back to church.

That's a boy. That was church. Oh, you go back to the pickup? Yeah, I go back to the halfway house and I actually got in trouble because they're like, oh, where you took that picture and it looked like church. And I'm like, yes, the fuck it did. Let me show you how to picture. It kind of did look like a church hallway.

It was a hotel hallway, but it looks like a church road. If the walls were yellow, it was church. Yellow or white, it was church. Okay, let me show you how to switch up. My church is called the Radisson. Nobody couldn't tell me this. Nobody couldn't tell me this was church. Listen, this was church.

I was thinking God. And by the way, they always say you can't find God in no man-made temple, so church can be anywhere. Exactly, right? I should have said that to them. Okay. You ready? Yes, let me see. What do we think?

Does it look like church? No, because of the carpet. That is hotel carpet all day. Let me see. If it wasn't that, it's the hotel carpet. If the carpet was like one plane color, that's, that's a hotel. That could have been church. No, the carpet would have to be one solid color.

I look at my caption. Sunday session. No, you did. It wasn't Sunday session, no. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? It was a Sunday session. It wasn't a Sunday session.

And I put the hands. Doesn't it mean anything? Doesn't this mean anything? Come on. That's funny. It's, not. Nah. This is clearly on that.

I wonder if you to show me that picture before the story when I thought that was a church. But it's the carpet. It would be a solid color. But it's like the light. The yellow. All that is churchy. All that is churchy.

Yeah. Look at the caption. Come on. Nah. You know what you're doing. Not mad at you. I'm mad at it. All right.

If you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. If you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right to. Star Brim,

thank you for coming. Thank you for having me. I appreciate you. Humble to poet. Sorry we couldn't talk to you longer. It's okay. I'm having some. so much fun just watching this.

I love when Humble comes. I didn't even know I was supposed to be on the podcast. I thought I was coming to kick it. All right. It's the brilliant day this podcast. Thank you for listening. And go download that. What is it?

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