The Brilliant Idiots - A**Lighters Anonymous (Ft. Donnell Rawlings & Jivanta Roberts)

Episode Date: September 5, 2025

On this episode of The Brilliant Idiots, Charlamagne The God is joined by Jivanta Roberts and Donnell Rawlings for a wild, unfiltered conversation that dives into everything from trust and relationships to the art of making a solid first impression. They discuss how public scrutiny affects personal lives, breaking down messy celebrity situations like August Alsina’s relationship drama. They also chop it up about love in music, redemption in comedy, and why having a strong community backing you can change everything. But it doesn’t stop there things get even deeper with talks about street codes and Young Thug’s case, the evolution of sketch comedy, and how positive energy plays into overcoming personal challenges. Plus, they answer some #AskAnIdiots on financial literacy and personal growth that’ll have you taking notes. ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots The Black Family Who Built America - Cheryl McKissack Daniel https://www.simonandschuster.biz/books/The-Black-Family-Who-Built-America/Cheryl-McKissack-Daniel/9781668033999 Uncommon Favor - Dawn Staley Order - https://a.co/d/4pLD1C3 No Holes Barred -Mandi B & Weezy WTF https://a.co/d/cGFDUoB Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks By Charlamagne Tha God https://a.co/d/gpFlOol Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" https://blackeffect.com Build credit fast and get your first month for just a dollar at GetKikoff.com/IDIOTS today. Thanks to Kikoff for sponsoring us! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yep, Shalamaine Nagat. We are the Brearing Idiot podcast. Hesekiah Walker is in Australia doing Street Fighter, but we have a special requested guest co-hosts that people were asking to be here. Ladies and gentlemen, Javante Roberts. Did I say it wrong? Javanta. Javanta Roberts.

I'm sorry. Javanta Roberts is a Brooklyn-born actress. They say you're a creative director, a producer, TV personality, and entrepreneurship. You have a degree in merchandising and marketing from Johnson and Wales University. Wow. And you began your first scream of work on Nick in Disney? Yeah. Wow.

And you're on Beauty and Black now. Yeah. And you have a co-host of a podcast. Yes. What's the name of the podcast? It is called The Donna Rollins Show. But it's the Giovante. The Javent.

Robbers. J-V-M-A-V-A-N-T-A. F-V-A-N-A. F-V-A-N-A. What's your name? name. Jay J. J.J. I'm not there what you yet. No, you're not there with me. Okay. Javanta. Javanta. Nice to bring Donnell Rallings with you. Hi, Donnell. Hi. How are you, sir? What's going on? I don't feel good about the energy in this room. Why? I think it's amazing.

Javanta is here. That's what matters. Javanta's here. You knew everything. You gave her all her, all her resume and everything. You know why? Because I met her earlier today when she came on Breakfast Club. You just walked in the room with it, didn't say nothing. She introduced herself. Didn't even know she had this amazing resume

until she had to say it herself. But you're supposed to be her people's. All right. First of all, it's called the collective. And a collective is collaborated thoughts. And we might not do things exactly how you want it. And this is the part where you start to be controlling. You never gave me an opportunity to establish me in the show.

And you wanted to be. They know you. You're established. You're Donnell Rawlings. Okay, but that's what I'm saying is that's not how we operate. That's not how we were operating. Who? You wanted us, the collective.

Don't you think when somebody walks in the room, you walk in the room with a person, you've never been in the room, and the person that has been in the room, she didn't introduce you to the room, right? Wow. Traditionally, yes. Yes. Traditionally, yes. Yes.

And you didn't do that. And then? No, you didn't do it. That has nothing to do with me. You didn't do that. I just introduced her to our audience off top. You're established. They know you.

They may not be familiar with Givante. There's a... There's a... Javanta. Javanta. Why is your name so difficult for me? I do not know why. Javanta.

I've never heard a name like that, by the way. It's Hindi. It means to give life. Ooh. Javanta. Why are you with him? There's an acronym. There's an acronym that the Y is used.

And I never thought of it. ever be fitting into today, it's called POS. That wasn't from the Y-A-Ns. See, that's a surprise. See, y'all, y'all just want to give the young people. P-O-S. But that has not from young people. And I don't, you, I, you're a piece of shit.

Wow. Wow. Wow. Why? You don't. Because I introduced your amazing co-host to people and you didn't, but I'm the P-O-S. Always laced with some type of sarcasm. What?

What are you talking about? It's always something. She has a light. So now that I know her name means what, full of life? To give life, yeah. To give life. I feel that. But this is why you're a piece of shit, because you know, you're trying to trigger me.

How am I trying to trigger you by introducing your control? No, you're trying to trigger me, son. You know what you're trying to trigger me, son. You do a good job of it. All right? But enough is enough. What is he, what is he talking? Does you even know what he's talking about?

I do. Tell me, tell me, explain. Explain what? what I'm trying to explain to him. I think you guys just really need to just hug it out. He doesn't like affection. He doesn't like love.

The only man... I fuck with affection, but I don't want it from you. The only human with a penis that he'll hug is his son. And I understand why? That's your son. Yeah, but I don't... Have you ever hug Dave? Have you ever hugged you and say,

no, no, I love you, I appreciate you? I value you. Three Mississippies. What's... Was it one? It was one Mississippi. That's good. That's all you could ever do.

I mean, was it a real hug, like a real embrace? It was a one Mississippi. Yeah. And what did he say when he hugged you? I didn't know these dudes, but I know they was gay. He was like, I don't know. I love you? Have you ever told him you love him?

This has to stop. Why? Why? You have to be like this. No, I'm not love you with the VE, but love. Men don't say I love you. Why? Why, Javantel?

No, I'm just saying, you tell men I love for you. Yes, if I love you and I value you and I appreciate you, I'm going to tell you that. So you'll say, I love you. Yes, I love you, King. Nah, I love you. You said it. He said he just told you he loved you. Donnell knows I love him.

I do love Donnell. I love. Man, you need to grow up. Love, never. You need to grow up. Love is different than love. Why didn't you introduce her properly to people? Why are you trying to hide her from the world?

No, I wasn't. And here's the thing. Okay, introducing Javanta Roberts. All right. We've known each other for very, very, very long time. I've listened to the podcast. I've seen clips. I've never seen you on any of this stuff.

You don't take on the watch house? That's not true. That's not true. During the height of the pandemic. Even when he calls me on the podcast, he never goes, I'm in here with my co-host. Because the times that I've called you lately for the podcast, she wasn't there. Why weren't she there? Oh, you got an acting career.

Yeah. Yeah. I have my own career. She's on beauty and black. She's doing a good job. She's producing television. television. You see what I'm saying?

I produced some spots to the Super Bowl earlier this year. Ooh. See, you're trying to fuck with me. Why? What is your problem? You ain't got to be happy for your people, yo. No, but ooh, hoo-hoo.

Oh, yes, you produced. Nobody got it to do it. So it's called the Super Bowl's soulful celebration. It happens right before the Super Bowl. I remember that. Yeah. So I did. That was on.

What network was that on? This year we had it on Fox. The year prior was on CBS. Thank you. Well, if you've never listened to Korean idiot. Like, try to fuck with me, son. Why should this bother you? No, you're...

You should be happy at you. Yo, look at you, son. Look at me, what? You like, you're doing this, you like this. Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. Am I doing something wrong, Javanta? No. Am I saying it right now?

You're saying my name wrong. Javanta. Javanta. You'll get it right by the end of that day. Javanta. Javanta. Am I doing something wrong, Javanta? No.

Exactly. What's up with him? He's okay. I just... I just don't trust it. What you mean? I think you don't trust yourself. I'm scorned.

That's your problem, okay? And you just tell him you're sorry. Just apologize. About what? I'm scorned. Why are you scorned, Donnell? Huh? I deal with trauma.

Yes. Yeah. And what is the biggest trauma that you've had from him? That plays way too much. Okay. Right. Right. Divanza don't listen.

No, the nigger played too much. Okay. Right? And can you say nigger Javanta? I can't. Yeah. I'm just making sure. I don't know.

I don't. What do you mean? What do you mean? Oh, you're training. Okay. I'm Trinidadian. Okay. Trinidadian.

Yes. Amazing. I don't get black. I don't give black. Oh, you do. Well, you give. I don't know. My mom's Indian and my dad's black.

Boom. All right. So you can say nigg. No, no. No. No. No. You can say Nick.

Trinidadians are just, we're black. You have an amazing Kentucky Fried Chicken. Yes, we do. My nanny that's been on us for a long time of Trinidadia. It's an amazing person. You already know. You like doubles and roti? Oh, yes, indeed.

I don't know what the doubles is, but I like curry chicken and all that. It's doubles. Yo, over roti, nigga, hold on. Ooh, over rootty. Roti slap. Are you crazy? Not no. Rootty slap.

Over doubles? Rotee. What is doubles? No, I hit it. You just said ooh and you only know what a double is. I'll say that for the roti. What is it? Donnell feels like you putting extras on it.

That's what this is. Yes. You dope. I met you earlier. You only told a little bit of your story on Breakfast Club because Donnell didn't introduce you. But, oh, for roti. Rotis.

You don't like roti? I do, but now. I love roti. You know, I want some rootie right now. Your cheek was jumping. You don't post it. You don't post it. You don't post it.

That's like, girl, you're going to love my chicken. I know that's right. Rootty is fire, bro. Did she say roti? Oh, ooh, not the Rooney. That's the extra that I'm talking about. What is extra? I'm doing for your co-host what you don't do.

This is how you celebrate your peoples, Donnell. You know how you celebrate your people? How? We talked about it earlier, but you didn't let me get word in. It's creating platforms for people to see what they've been doing for a loan. When you're on platform, you shout them out. Listen, I don't claim her.

Did he shout you out on Kill Tony? Has he ever shouted you out on Kill Tony? No, I only went to one. I was in the audience. That's all it takes is one. No, but Donnell, like I said earlier today, like Donnell, he has his ways of supporting and putting people on,

and it doesn't have to be broadcasted or showed, and so many people has benefited from just him being a part of his life. Adrian. Adrian is one of them, Adrian Washington. Yeah, flew to Adrian. I mean, a bunch of other comments. No, see, nope. That's not exactly.

You and Adrian. No, Marshall Brandon. Marshall Brandon's on tour with Dave Chappelle right now. I don't know who that is. But I'm just saying that this is what I... This is not showbody. Let me see this.

This is what I'm trying to explain. Okay. This is what I was saying earlier, right? What? You're a piece of shit. Why? I'm asking questions. You know what you're doing.

No, I don't. I'm introducing people to Javanta. Javanta. Javanta. Javanta. Yeah, that's fine. Javanta.

Javanta, yes. So Javanta, here on this show, we start off by doing something called all memes matter. Okay. And what we do is we pull up like the latest memes, things that people are talking about,

and we comment on it. Okay. Do you all have something like this on the Donnell-Rollings podcast? Where are we freestyle? You know what I mean? We don't really have too much structure. No structure.

Story of Donnell's life. Kim Kardashian pulls up to Kai Sinette's Mafia Thon scream. Let's watch. What exactly is this clip? Ooh, is that the Rodey? Oh, that's the Rode. Donno, let's play this game, man. That's the goddamn Rode.

Let's play this game. Would you ever play this game that Kai plays? Show them the game, Donda. We've got to get to the ad. This is a game they play where somebody puts the helmet on and they turn their back to the crowd in, Hold on watching. He says no.

Wait, don't go ahead. I got feeling that tonight's gonna be a good night. That tonight's gonna be a good night. Oh. Oh,

Kim? Oh, nah. Damn. Yeah. We can't, we can't. We can't. I just, like, probably don't hit it. You know?

No, no, no. I'm saying I just. Oh, that's why you guessed it. Okay. Okay. Okay, we're not going to do Kim. You got to please some of my sister. So you're going to do Kim.

So I'll sit down. Okay. Okay. Okay. Let's play this, Don't know. Until I read a point in our time. Be on the back when your hot sun, a attack. Gonna get all the game I have.

It's my best in me. I will never pay you. I'll fight I will fight to forever What the fuck is going? Oh, that's not They wear a helmet

And then they Put them back to the crowd And they hit them with those foam noodles But then just now Kim hit them with a table You wouldn't play that? No, that's not interesting.

Why not? I just... No. What do you mean? I just wouldn't play that. Why? Because I would probably start a fight. Why?

You just hit me in the head with goddamn whole wall. It's a joke though. Everything ain't funny, man. For a comedian? No, everything is not for- I don't like Dark Donnell. See what you come in here with Dark Donnell, yo. Come in here light, just bringing in this.

We want to laugh and joke. Don't come in here, Dark Don't'all. Okay? Shitting on the new generation of how they do comedy. You don't know what, stop it. That's exactly what you just did. You just did. You just said that shit ain't funny.

I said, I said, what you mean? You just said that. I can't believe he did it. You just said that. I can't believe he did it. You were just like, yo, it ain't not funny.

Why? They're not even a mastermind. Why? That was so much. Why would them? I did not say, I got a problem with just generation of comedians. Yes, you just said that.

I said that. Nobody heard him say that by me. I said. I said, that shit ain't funny to me, son. That's exactly my point. I thought it was hilarious. Did you think it was hilarious? I thought it was hilarious.

Did you find it funny? It was okay. Your home matters. It didn't find it funny? It was. I think it's a little immature, but it's just like. They're kids. Yeah, but it was a real table.

It's like, you know what it reminds me of? It reminds me of like back in the day. You ever used to watch Jackass? Yeah. Yes, it's stuff like that. That's funny. Okay. But that's not my brand of comedy, son.

What's your brand of comedy, Dark, I don't know. It's not bust some motherfugs in the head with what is what? half a house. I'm just saying, that's never going to be funny to me. It's funny to them. Some people like it. They're well-it-with-people. People are like, they'll watch motherfuckers

get hitting the head with you. Go to a topic Donnell cares about. Where's my guy, August Alcina? August Alcina boyfriend reacts to grooming allegations. August Alcina's boyfriend, what's his name? I am Lazzu. That's his name? I am Lazzu.

He said, this is my first and only time addressing this. I don't give a fuck about any. external validation whatsoever. I don't need anyone's likeness, but I'm a grown-ass man with his own mind and free will. If I ever do anything, it's because I want to do it. I met August when I was already of age and an adult. August didn't even know me when I was 16 or 17, not sure what I came from. Yeah, there's a slight age difference, but y'all pick and choose who to judge when it comes to that. We will have known each other for five years toward the end of the year. So he's speaking in future turns because that's what we plan to make it. I know I'm not an

internet person, and I prioritize my piece before anything, and I protect my relationship because the media at times can seep in and tarness beautiful dynamics. August is my boyfriend and we're happy with each other. Simple, but I can see how being quiet and trying to protect something of value to you can allow some people to spend the narrative and create a bunch of different scenarios which aren't true. August gives me a great in capital letters, G-R-E-C-Life, and I'm thankful. What y'all don't know is that I run this relationship. I call the shots. August just shows up and supports me and whatever I want to do. He supports my dream. He is a dream in capital letters. Nothing is ever forced on either end.

Hope this clears up any confusion. Stay flies. Salute to August and salute to zoo. August is your favorite R&B artist. I love August. Alcena. That's a good. Used to call him a lot.

Oh, yeah, we used to communicate. We still talk every once in a while I look at him as like a little nephew or little son. He's a good guy. It's just a funny thing about the internet. It's like everybody thinks they're privy to your life and think that they could comment and tell you how you're supposed to live. This motherfucker's open. He's free.

He's not hiding anything. Was he? I mean, was he ever? I don't, was he ever? Look at me when I say that. He's not hiding anything. I don't think you're hiding none else. I never thought anything up.

I never thought you was hiding anything. I mean, he's living his truth. Yes, he is. He's living his truth. So let me ask you a question. Was he hiding something before? No, I just. Because he never made a formal announcement like,

I'm gay. People that, and I don't think, you know, have to let everybody know what's going on your life. But they say, yo, we're a couple of leaves to fuck a lot. long. That's it. Yeah. I mean, I just think it's interesting because the last time you heard of August being involved in a relationship, it was the entanglement of hurt around the world. You know, and so how long ago was that? Four years ago, five years ago? During the pandemic, yeah. Yeah. They go from that to this, you know, so it's not abruptly,

but, you know, people do wonder what happened. Um, with him, with that? Yeah, I don't, I don't care about his sexuality either way, but I can understand why. people would be like, okay, what is he, was he by the whole time? But once you're quiet and you're not out in the public, people are going to be curious? They want to know what's the fuck going on your life. And when you stay, I don't damn it's so weird to say that on a down low like that. Why is that weird to say, no, not?

Because it's kind of in regard to this, not in a bad way, but I said they're relationship on a down low. People think it was download, but he's not. He's openly into whoever he wants to be into. Yeah, I agree that it's not nobody's business. You know what I'm saying? Whoever you choose to be with is who you choose to be with. It's just the fact that he's a public figure and people give a fuck.

You know what I'm saying? It's just like, you know, I just wonder, like it does make some questions, you know, arise in your mind when you see him go from the entanglement. To that. To see him go from, and I love this shit, this is a big deal. Why? I mean, for me, when I was introduced to August, Alcena, His music was dope as shit.

It represented. It's still dope. I'm not saying it's not. It was a street. So you just had one perception of him. You thought he was just street dude. He could still be street and gay. I'm not saying he can't.

I would like to answer my, I wouldn't like to answer for myself. Yes, yes, yes. Are you speaking for me right now? No, I'm just. I don't know what the mental word for what you're doing is. No, I'm not. Somebody Google.

Called ass lighting. I'm ass lighting. I'm ass lighting. I'm ass lighting you right now, doesn't it? I'm ass-lighting you. I'm answering any gay question, any gay answer you may have. I'm answering him. Don't ask like that.

Yeah, I'm saying. Okay. Yo, don't you ask like me. I'm assoliding you. I don't see the problem with what August is doing, but you act like his music can't still be good. I still listen to the music. I'm just saying, but it's just interesting. This is one person, you think this is one person, and then it's somebody else.

It don't change it. I think he's a good guy. And at the end of the day, he's a great guy. He's a great guy. And at the end of the day, it's either, at the end of the day, you got good people and you got bad people. That's the end of the day. No matter what their sexuality is or anything.

It's just good people. And it's pieces of shit. And the crazy thing is love is love. So whatever music you create because of whatever love you're experiencing, it's still love at the end of the day. So he might have made it, and his inspiration might have been a guy. You know what I mean?

And you listen to it. And all you hear is love, but you like, women. So that's what you used the music for. Like we never cared. And Luther Fade never too much slaps. I don't care. What was inspired Luther to write them joints. Right. Them is joints. But then when you think about it, you just realized that, like you said, he just wrote for love. Whatever. It could have been for an animal or anything. That's what, like, really good music. Good music and good songwriting is all about. Oh, an animal.

Huh? Huh? His point was regardless to who the subject was about Love is love. But that's what I said But he's just random Why he had to go to animals I can't do this today, son

Not today, sir Could you just stop it? What you mean? You said it Why are you mad at me For things that you're saying First off you start off with the shit With your producer's shit

Because my man Adrian Washington He killed on killed Tony And he was like, oh that's what you did No, the produce What's on me? It was Archer. Archer, Archer goes, yo, you killed it on Kill Tony last night. And he wasn't talking to you, he was talking to Adrian.

What did you say? Huh? What did you say after that? I said, ooh. No, you almost said, ooh. You almost said ooh. You did. You did say, oh, then.

You said, ooh, you did say, ooh. You said, ooh, he was the only one you saw last night. Ooh, you did say ooh, you did say ooh, nigg. But everybody get an ooh with me. Well, do better. No. You know there's a petition to keep you off Kiltone? No, there's not a petition.

Yes, it is. There's not a petition. Chris, isn't there a petition? We saw earlier. They got a full-fledged petition to keep you off. Official petition to ban Donnell Rons. Listen, what's the headline saying? Official petition to ban Donnell Nishon.

When they write that? That's all. That's all. That's all. 13 hours ago. The fuck you be doing on these white people shows? They don't want you that ever. I think that was five years ago.

Refresh that shit. You're not even going on there being a woke, woke, liberal, and they don't want you on these shows. What are you doing? I'm going to tell you with them. I'm being me, son. I'm being me. I do these shows.

I did Kieltona. First off, that audience is a diabolical audience. That audience right there, it don't matter what you do. It's going to be motherfuckers. That's not true. What? I see, Adrian had him dying laughing yesterday. You'd be missing the point.

And I've seen other comedians in there have him die laughing. Nick, I had him die laughing. Shit. Just read some of the comments. No, watch this episode, said. It's 445 comments, yo. What they say? It says, Donnell is annoying.

What he needs to be annoying to push Rob to react in the way he did. It was Denanoid Donnell, which made things fun. And we did a fire-ass show, nigger. This was his first step towards his redemption, having trial by Snyder. Okay, what else we got? It wasn't no redemption, son. Don't call it a comeback. Why some good shit?

Why do you want to read it? You got to watch a show. I'm not reading. I'm not reading, Jamantz. I've been laughing my ass all night. Go back. I'm not reading. My story was a chill.

That wasn't the one. That wasn't the one I was to just read. I was reading. Oh, why you switching? Go to Reddit. Go to the Reddit one. I'm not reading it. Yeah, somebody said I was laughing my ass off all night.

Thank you. Yep. Yep. Go? Too much positive. Wait, look, he waited. Great episode. Great episode.

Come on. What is whiskey hole, Don't know? He definitely has big heel energy. Rob. Okay, yeah, they had a good balance. The fuck big heel energy. Here's the thing. So there was a really great balance between Rob and Donnell.

Yeah, I'm not reading it. I know you ain't able to read it. I know you're reading. Why don't want to read it? Hilarious. Why don't want to read it? Who! Wow.

Yo, that's Rootsie. Digger. He's a rooster. Oh, shit. Okay, play this. Rob Snyder. Destroyes Don't know Rylons on Kill Tony. What the fuck did it?

Yo, those are trickle. Let's work. Actually, in a whorehouse. You were in a whorehouse in Korea. I was 18 years old. I was. Delightfully chaotic and improbably wholesome. Kill Tony number seven.

33, felt like someone spun mercenary, brilliant, and Shnyder, and finished business. Anderson's interview 5. That was last night?

You walked out again? Don't that's disgusting. Oh, he came back out. Go. That physical flouncing functions like a recurring gag in a sitcom. What? Why he said you physically flounces, son?

riff off of and Rawlings used it to recalibrate the energy of the room. Rob Schneider, meanwhile, slid into the evening like a guest star who knows all the best beats and isn't shy about stealing a few. The late show roast of Rawlings, good-natured, sharp and relentless, landed repeatedly, and the crowd rewarded it. Schneider's set felt like the clean, practiced uppercut after Rawlings's improvisational jab. One is a pro, one is a thorny instinct, and they complimented each other in a way. that made the episode feel complete rather than distrauded.

What they say, man. Yo, you are thorny instinct. Why are you talking? Why you won't let the say? You are a thorny instinct. Man, here's the thing. You know who gets thorny instincts? Luther Van Drops before he used to write songs, bro.

That was a thorny. That was crazy. Those things are thorny instinct. Crazy. So, I'm gonna tell you, the show was dope. Kill Tony's first off is one of the best platforms for people to be seen. Yes, Adrian did a minute set. And he killed the set.

I was on there as a, first off, return guest, after dealing with four years of motherfuckers trying to shit on me, talking about somebody ran me off of a show and all that bullshit. They did. They did not. We watched it. If you watched that video, the video that went out, and I'm tired of explaining it. If you're explaining, you're losing.

How many times do I have to tell you this down now? If you're explaining, you're losing, okay? Do you feel like you lost your first killed Tony episode? Do you feel like this new one was a redemption art? Let me ask Big Jai. Jai, what do you feel? Do you feel like he lost it? Do you feel like he fucked up the first killed Tony

and redeemed himself this new one? I wouldn't say, I wouldn't call it a fuck up. I wouldn't call it a fucked up. And I feel like if you know Donnell's work and you saw what he did when they premiered, he did an amazing job. There was a great balance. You got to watch it.

You really got to watch it. They are really got to watch it. It was insufferable. like they're ready they stay ready like that family's are they like they ready to get at them yeah but I can see that he's thorny why wouldn't you want to be

get at a thorny person in a black barbershop a stuttering nigger never is heard what is that you telling jokes and nobody's laughing at no one it's so old listen I'm not a gimmick I'm not a gimmick

and this is the point I'm make with you I'm not a gimmick this was that one You're a gimmick. You will win because you're fat. You look hard. I want to get this dude. I just cut to another shot.

It's not even the same shot. If you're going to die, you won't be so fucking angry. Thank you, Joe. Thank you, Joe. Thank you. Sorry, Don, Don, now. Keep going on. I appreciate that, Joe.

No, it doesn't matter. What I'm saying is these, that's called production. Why are you on stage explaining? If you're explaining, you're losing Don't ever, there's watch the show. Joe Logan podcast and say he's the interrupter. Can we pause that? Yes, pause.

So you can explain some. fucking more. Explain, Donnell. Why do you got to explain everything? There's no way to win this. There's not. If you're explaining, you're losing. No, I know who I'm dealing with.

I know the people that are going to connect to your piece of shit energy. Have you ever been in a relationship where you caught a man red-handed? You know he was doing some bullshit. And instead of just admitting it was some bullshit, he's just trying to explain his way out of it. Doesn't that frustrate you? It's very frustrating.

Wow. Let's go back to all memes, man. This is just... No. There's nothing to... Talk about last night. Did you redeem yourself last night? Do you feel good about last night?

This is not good for my mental health, say. What you mean? No, I'm just telling you the truth. If you are an advocate for mental health, right? If you really care about a nigga mental health like you say you do... I feel great. Like you say... But that's suffering.

I feel great. Alex feels great. Chris feels great. Adrian feels great. But you have no concern of my mental health. Yes, I do. Then why are you doing this to me? Doing what?

You're doing things to trigger me, Shardamay. Because you go back to all memes matter, Chris. What am I doing to trigger you? Donnell. Come on, stop. You're making things up per usual. Let's go back up. Okay, click on BBL.

Now, I don't want to talk about that guy. I'm tired. Go back to the roachie. Go back to the roachy. Tyree's hurt after Mary Jane Blime. Oh, I'm sick of this, nigga. Yo, God damn. I'm so sorry.

I didn't the only thing that I was listening to me is this nigga right here. You got three feet. Yo, I got tears on the inside, sir. His father passed away, cut it up. His father died for real? Yes, press play. Now, see. She passed on it.

That's no. It's okay. I feel away about it. I'm hurt. I'm hurt. I'm hurt. really hurt. I can't buy it. But she passed on it.

I wasn't hurt that Mary passed on the song. I said she didn't have a choice because she does. Three days ago. It's all the same weekend. She's my sister. I love her. Said, that's what I don't understand. I was more so heard about her passing on the song because like a mad scientist, I went into the studio and when I tell you,

I customized this song. I made this. What the fuck does this have to do with his father dying, son? I just want you to stop joking on him. This was about Tyrese expression. But what the fuck they had to do? I know. After Mary Jane Blige turned down.

But then you said his father just died, right? The father did pass away. His father actually passed away. I was with Tyrese last Friday. My dude, Baccari Sellers and his beautiful wife, Ellen, they renewed their vows. And Bishop Tudy Jakes did the ceremony. And Tyrese came out as a surprise guest. and sang for Bukari's wife.

So I was with him Friday, and I think his father died the day before. And he still came to Charles and Salkia Lida to do. I would rather him be, me personally, I would rather him have an emotional post about his father passing away. Having an emotional post about a motherfucker saying that he didn't want to be on your song.

It's fucking crazy. But that's you. You do shit like that? I don't do that, no shit like that. I don't put my fucking... Everything about... I mean, we have to know everything about his life. Yes.

we invested in him and all is just crying and enough is enough have you ever been mad that a comedian didn't want to do something with you no I don't expect too much to me people

but I don't ask him to have you ever been upset when one didn't somebody you did expect something from you asking to do it then they didn't do it and you felt the same disappointment that Tyrese felt because he couldn't get married J. Blige on the record I have not had that situation

because I don't really put myself in a position to like, if I'm going to, for the most part, if I'm going to ask you for something, the people I'm going to do that from, it's almost 100%, 100% that they're going to show up for me. I don't have relationships with people that it would be like, well, I don't know, let me think about it. And for another reason, I never, never ask anybody for anything. Like if a motherfucker, if I call a motherfucker and say, could you do this?

This cuts out a lot of the bullshit because I don't, like, could you do this? Could you look? I don't do that shit. So when I do, it's usually met with like, it's received very, very well. So you go with SafeVex? Yeah. I ain't going to like if I know this nigga don't really fuck me. Hey, man, I know we had.

But a lot of times the people you think don't fuck with you actually do fuck with you, but because of your trust issues down now, you think everybody has something against you. I don't think that. And that's a good flip. I really appreciate what you just did. You should be a therapist. What are you talking about? Your wordplay is crazy, stuff.

What are you talking about? What the fuck are you? manipulation is out of control. What are you talking about? So you telling me, because all I see what the people don't like about you. Because all I heard was safety just now. You can't just lean into safety all of them. No, what I'm saying is, I am not a person that says, could you do this for me?

And with that said, you got motherfuckers that acts for favors every five minutes. I'm not one of those people. So if I come at you with something like that, nine times of ten, I'm pretty sure that you're going to be down. You got trust. Have you ever played the game where you just stand up straight and there somebody stands behind you? I do have trust. And then you fall back. You know why I have trust issues?

Why? Because I continue to try to have a friendship with people like yourself. What are you talking about? What does this have to do with me? This has nothing to do with me. You know what? I have trust issue with you. We'll say that.

I said it early. I think you have trust issues with everybody. I said, how do we fix this? How do we fix this? Did I say that? I'm right off here. I said you're fine. What does he have to do?

What does he have to do for you to trust him? What does he have to do? I don't really need to trust. I'm never going to trust her. That is crazy. How could you ever be in any type of relationship like that? You play too much. But you can never be in a relationship.

You know what it is? I really mean this. Your first, last and best love is self-love, none. When you truly start to love yourself, then you will start to trust yourself. And then you will start to love and trust other people. The reason you have a lack of love and trust for others is because you don't really have that with yourself the way you should.

I don't get fuck what you just said. It's not like something the nigger told you already, you just got this ultra-last fashion. You remember what the nigger told you and hit me with the same shit. Could you be with somebody who, could you be with a man that didn't trust people? I couldn't. I couldn't. Not really. No.

Well, no, I take that back. Well, not trust everybody. I think it's important to know who you can trust and who you. I mean, this is a crazy business, right? How do you feel being his co-host knowing he don't trust nobody? Do you trust her? 100%. Okay.

How did that trust develop? It developed over years of being in New York. I met her, well, the first when I met you, you were at a comedy show with a date. I cracked jokes and then I'll pass across again because she was already doing, like, interviewing. She was on one of the internet shows called What's Popping? It was really hot back in the day. What's Popping.com. Yeah.

Yeah. I remember that shit. Yeah. Yeah. And she was just like somebody that we kept in touch. and then we just, our past with Cross, with Cross,

became good friends. I always supported everything she's done. I didn't see her go from like doing, I mean, there's certain people that you just root for. And when we were talking about, I was talking about the Breakfast Club, I want to build something

that's different from, like the traditional sense of management and agency, I ain't trying to take over. But I think that we all have enough power that collectively, if you get a system together,

you could create opportunities in with your friends and the people that you fuck with. So how come you never introduced her? It wasn't the right time. Everything is timing. It wasn't the right time. She's had her life. She's been doing her thing. I've been doing my thing.

She's been successful. All both of us have had ups and downs. But the thing throughout that, we maintain a friendship. Like, it wasn't like, I don't talk to you for a couple months. Like, where you been, why you didn't call me? I already know if we're not communicating like that, she's on her grind. She's doing this shit. She's not going to wait for me to do anything.

And I said, this is some real shit. I said, all right, do I have any resources? This is me and my life and people I fuck with. Do I have resources to help a motherfucker alone? Not to say that they need it. But if I could make one phone call and be like, yo, I heard y'all so on still, look out for my people's. The same thing with Asian. I give you another example of the patience.

My good friend Marshall Brandon, right? Marshall Brandon was my opening for years, like a funny guy. He's one of those guys when you go after him. you better be prepared because you're going to have to work. He was touring with me. When we were doing the shows in Yellow Springs during the pandemic, I invited Marshall to come out and hang out with us because, excuse me, he was in Connecticut.

And then we just had this a bubble that we was just living life as normal as possible. And I invited anybody. I invited her out there. Like people that know that could probably start having mental issues because I was like, yo, come out here, man. You thought you might have a mental breakdown? No, I didn't, I didn't want to have to deal with any type of stress. Got you, got you.

And I'm saying, for me, my invite for people out there, it was a relieving of that. It was like just, I'm telling you. I know shit is fucked up right now. I had to leave LA because I kept getting in it with my baby mother. And I was like, I got to get the fuck out here. This is going to get crazy. Let me go. I found my peace there.

I started inviting people. I invited her. Marshall, Brandon. Did you find peace there? I did. 100%. It was like a math. No answer for her.

Could you let her talk for herself? All right. I'm not going to let you talk to me like that. Did you find peace? I did. I did. I met some amazing people of Yellow Spring. I've built my own little community as well.

I have a fragrance line. So my first store that I'm in is in Yellow Springs. Wow. The name of the fragrance line? It's called UniFragance line. It's an oil. So it's unisex. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And it's, I'll get you some. Dope. Okay, like I was saying. With the answer your question, yes. I found much peace there. Okay, like I was said, about opportunities. Yes, yes. My guy, Adrian, he just did kill Tony of there.

He killed it. Marshall. He killed it. He was out in this. He killed it. He didn't just do it. He killed, Kiltony. He didn't just do it.

Give the man his profits. Give Adrian his profits. He killed it. Yes. The point I'm making is Marshall Branden was in those cornfields in the entire summer. We had Kami Line of B. I know he's a funny guy. Never once asked about going on.

Never was like, he was just happy. He was happy. He was in a moment. We did a summer show. Now, one time they go on, I know he's a bad motherfucker, right? But this is why I say when it comes time. So we did a residency in Austin, Texas. This is when I bubble popped, right?

Everybody was getting COVID, like, blah, blah, blah, blah. All the comedians, blah, blah, blah. And then we had a situation with losing comedians. To death or like, just sick? No, just test the policy. So now you gotta, you gotta go disappear for 10 days. So we, it was down to like me and Dave, and then Dave, and then they were, all right, who's gonna open, so on, so.

And people started to come up. kind of panic. I was like, look, we got it. Let Marshall go up. Let him do 10 minutes. And then he could eat the garbage time, whatever we do. Let's put him in that position. And I go up. By that time, Dave'd be here. And it worked out. He got called off the bench, right? And once that, it was a perfect time. I could have been like, you got to check this guy out, right? But I think this certain things happen when it's a defining moment. He was ready. They called him in the game. and he's been touring with Dave around the world as a solid guy

and that's because of relationship. I think that's a dope story. I just don't like the fact that mad people had to get sick for Brandon to get a shot. You know what I'm saying? Because you could have said, yo, you should check my guy out. You know, he's really dope.

He's been opening up for me. No, no, no. Can I explain that? He's been opening up for me for years. He's really dope. You should check him out. You're trying to control the narrative. No, I'm not.

I'm just saying it. I'm not going to let you do that. Enough is enough. I don't know if anybody ever told you this, but shut the fuck up. The young lady trying to talk. You should not have to raise your hand to speak. This is a crazy relationship. You should not have to raise your hand to speak.

You should not have to raise your hand to speak. You ever heard this? This is fucking crazy. You ever heard this crazy? I want you to be free. You do not have to raise your hand to speak. Please don't do that in my presence. I will protect you, okay?

Are you familiar with... That's crazy. You got her raising her hand to speak? Is this, if you're familiar, just face, this nigga here. That's crazy. Did y'all see that? She rolled. She put her hand up to speak.

That's crazy. That's crazy. You can speak for it. No, I just wanted to piggyback off of what he was saying in regards to the timing and everything. I felt like in that particular environment, you have Dave, you have all these comedians. I feel as though if Donnell was like, oh, you got to check Marshall out. It wouldn't have been his time and he wouldn't be on tour with Dave right now. But not only that, to add to that.

You do stand up too, though, right? Oh, I don't do it anymore. Why'd you quit? Because Donnell killed your dreams? No, no. He was the one uplifting me. He was the one uplifting me. I respect the art so much.

And that particular lifestyle just wasn't for me, waiting to see if I was going to go up every night going to open mics. And I was genuinely balancing Missy Elliott and Shakira. Like those dance shops. Oh, she's a dancer. I forgot to tell you. So were you good? Were you good?

Is it stand-up? I was decent. I think I was decent. Donnell, was she good? You know what? I'm sorry, sir. Yo. We're her jokes at work, I'm like, just turn around.

No, no, no. I mean, I respect this so much. I told him. She's like, what happened to my life? I was like, just turn around. He told you to fuck your dreams? No. No, no, I cried or whatever.

I cried. I did. You cried when he told you that you suck? No, I cried that night because no one laughed. What? I told her. Oh, my God. What was this?

At the Laugh Lounge on Lower East Side. Oh, is that okay? This was only her second appearance, and she said, she sent me a video. She said, this is snippets from my show. I said, your whole show is a snippet. She said, this is five minutes from my show. Your whole show was five minutes. How many minutes did you have?

Needless to say, five, but needless to say. I will say, this is one thing I really appreciate about what she did. And this is with anybody. She, something said she wanted to do it. Yes. And even if you, anybody come to me, I always thought about it. I'm always going to say, at least try it.

It don't mean you're going to get a career off of it, but it's challenging your fears and you're doing something that you'll be, you challenge your fears, you never know what's going to happen. She did, she was into it. We were right. She had a stuff down. She was, she was really into it. She was passionate about it.

And then, you know, I told her, I said, when you go on stage, I said, don't talk about your looks. Don't talk about being pretty or idiot. I said, because the buggy, it's going to get mad. That's what you did, your vantage? Yeah, I got nervous. I told her. Since she did, you tell us some of the set since you didn't, you know, it's not like you.

I mean, it was so long ago. I must have said something, oh, I was cute in college or something like that. As soon as she did, I was like, did it. Are you going to ever let her finish the sentence? Are you going to just interrupt every single time she talked? Is this how the podcast is? This is why I don't hear you on the podcast, clearly. Okay.

You tell us some of your set, please, without being interrupted by Donna O'Rillins. He's doing you like he did the wrist of this guy, man. Oh, that's topic. What? I get invited to these platforms, right? To interrupt people? They know who I am. They know what's about to happen.

It's not interrupted. It's that I get excited. Okay? I'm not into, I'm not, I don't interrupt people like that. Okay. All right. Javanta? Yes.

Do you remember some of your set? I know it was somewhere along the lines of I, I said, I said I wasn't cute in college, and then there was crickets and then I gave myself delight. I definitely gave myself to light and I ran off the stage. That's what I do remember. That was the joke. The joke was I wasn't cute and comedy. I don't remember the joke to be honest. Okay. It wasn't going as well as well as the house. It wasn't going. Yeah, it wasn't. Do you remember any jokes that you told? Let's give us a joke, not even from that night. Oh my God. Come on. Really? Yeah, why not? I don't know.

I don't know any jokes. I quit for a reason. I quit for a comedy show. I could produce a comedy show. Better dance. I didn't try to kill no dreams. I know my strong suit. I know my shot. I don't know my shot shoot. He wasn't around there. Oh, okay, okay, okay.

But I'm good. This is what I told her. And she was like, and she's very beautiful young lady. And all the comedians, they was like, oh, it's going to be okay. Like, oh, she's like just, she had a bad sense. She's like just, and they like just, oh, you know the niggins is trying. You know what they try to do. Yeah, keep playing.

But you crowd my shoulder to watch it. It's going to be all right. I'm telling real shit. They like this. She crying his shoulder. They're looking over and looking at her ass. They're saying, Woo!

Is that Jerroti? And she's doing that. And she feels safe with these guys. And she looks at me. And then she was like, Donnell, what do you do if you're not laughing? And I told her, I said, if you are crying right now,

you should quit and never do it again. And I think that's, That was her last day doing a problem. You quit? Yeah, hell yeah. I could not take it. I could not take it. But also.

You couldn't dance for Leah then. Leah said if at first you don't succeed, you got dust itself off and try again. You just said, fuck it, huh? No, I wasn't passionate about it. Like, it was something that I wanted to try and do. And I think it's one of the bravest things I've ever done. But I respect the art so much. And I'm around, like, they're the people that I'm around.

That's how I felt about rap. I used to rap. Oh, okay. Yeah. But I had some, just like that. All right, spit a bar. My name used to be Dizzy Van Winkle. So I'd be like, Dizzy Van Winkley's the name.

I can slam King Kong lift up freight trains. Silly shit like that. Okay. Yeah. How long ago? Oh, this is 25 years ago. Probably longer. And you performed and everything?

No, no, no, no. I mean, I've been on stage with rappers who are performing, but I was like, they hype man. You know that your rap just reminded me of? What? What episode of Breakfast Club, but somebody spit some shit that you said, nah. Nah, that ain't it, y'all.

Yeah. But, see, the difference between me and Safari. What was you? What was that? But the disparate me and Safari, I knew it wasn't it. You know what I'm saying? Because like you said, you can feel when you're supposed to be doing something, you have a passion for it, somebody might tell you that you suck and you'd be like, nah, you just

got, I had a bad night. Nah, I knew I wasn't supposed to be rapping. It's like you wasn't supposed to be doing comedy. Yeah. But in the- Yo, Adrian raising his hand too. What the fuck you doing to your team, yo? No.

Listen, man. What the fuck are you doing to your team? It's called, you know what? You should understand this because it's something in radio. It's not like you can talk now. It's just like make the acknowledgement without bump. But it's a rhythm. Adrian could have jumped in.

Go ahead, Adrian. This is crazy. Listen, he get a lot of shit. I haven't grown up around him. I've been with D now for like three, three and a half years. Not long enough. You haven't met with him long enough to form an opinion. Right.

Very long enough to form an opinion. But he was the, he invited me out. When he bought his house out in Yellow Springs, he's like, you got to come see it. That's when I met the rest of the team. I didn't know going in because I had never met Marshall really. You know what I'm saying? Oh, man, I don't know how everybody's going to receive him. And because of the way he set me up, everybody from the day I walked in, open on, you know what I'm saying?

Like sitting there talking with Marshall, a dude who used to be in my position about how things going to change because now I'm on tour with Donnell. Like, that was just so dope to hear from him. You know what I mean? And I would say this, when I did kill Tony, right, and that is what. Oh, God. It's not even about me. It's about him. The thing I was like, of course I wanted to go back

because I mean, I didn't feel comfortable what people thought of me. Then I was like, you know what? All I'm gonna do, all I can do is be myself. I was funny at show. But more importantly, I know how big of a platform it is for comics that want to be seen. I got enough.

I ain't saying I'm no superstar, but I'm known. I do this shit. And I knew he was ready. You know what I'm saying? Even when I pitched it to Tony, he was like, we'll see, I'll see what I can do. Certain people, just because you like somebody, I don't mean you're gonna give him a shot.

You know what I'm saying? Because they might not be ready. That's right. But I knew from rocking with him for three years, seeing how he performed, how he carried self. I said, if anybody that could maximize that minute, it would be him. He did that. The set was great.

And then even the post-interview, are you really tweeting while we're talking to you? I'm not tweeting. I don't even be on Twitter. I'm listening to you. You're on your phone. That's disrespectful. I'm listening to you. But he was another example, being ready.

He stood up. And he's already getting some heat from that audience or the people that they like him. He did a good job. He did a good job on the show. He's getting charged up. What was that? You charging them up? Charging them up?

Yeah. Money? No, man. Like, you charging them up. Like you... Oh, we do that to each. With the batteries. Ooh, shit.

Dang. Oh. Oh. Oh. You got to play a hard. He was going to say, man. Yo, this dude. He was going to...

He was like this. He was like this. He was like that. Oh, got one. Got one. Got one. Holy shit. Can you click on that.

Can you click on that one? The second one, Chris. Because I want to know what is Javanta, Javanta. Javanta. What does Javanta think when your friend is in these type of headlines? Yo, Charlotte, I've seen this post, and you know, I was so scared to like it because I know he was going to see it. He'd be like, so I wasn't going to make it. No, I'm just saying, that's what we do it.

No, but I'm just saying. No, this is a story. Show your pants. Man goes to ER after sticking batteries. up his rectum for an energy boost. All right. Why do they use your picture, though? All right.

Why did they use your picture? Can we go to Donner-Rawder's page? But why do they use your picture? Let's go. Let's let it. Devanta, when you see stuff like this, what do you think of your man? Do you even say anything to him? Do you acknowledge him?

Do you be like, yo, I know this was just in the papers. This is in the blogs, but I want to. I know. I know. How do you know? Because I know. Let's go to, we go to pages? Let's go.

I don't care. Donnie Rollins, but oh, that's a crime. Maybe they're getting it. What more do you want from us, Tyrese? What more do you want from me? Yo. You gotta let us live. I'm tired, man.

Hey. What more do you want from us? Tyrese is a talented motherfucker. Go down. I can get a, keep going. Keep going. Let me get a good one. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Hold on. Oh, yeah. You did. the challenge. Keep going. Keep going. Oh, oh, oh. They're going one right there. Show them that one right there. Click on that one in the middle. Which one? You know that one right there. This is where all the anger come from. I know where all the anger come from. I know what it is. I just say. Just. Hey, click out, click on. Oh, fuck. Go, go, go. Go, go. Let's do it. Top five.

Yo. Yo. No, no, no, no. No, go back. Go back to the library. Let me see the old thing. Hold on, keep going. I know I've never got another bang in there somewhere.

See? Oh, right there. Which one? The left. Serial butt sniffer. Busted again. No, no, you know he got busted again? He did.

He got busted again since that. A couple days ago. No, no, go back to the top of the page. Go back. Go, go, hold on. The challenge. Hold on. Yeah, why you be so close to the camera

when you be doing your fucking Right here. Oh, this one's right here. The Chris Brown challenge. Chris Brown. No, not right there. In the middle. In the middle.

This is where the anger comes from. A. A. Eon. Eon. Eon. Eon. This one is.

A. Hey. Hey. Hey. Come in. Eton. Eon. Zat.

Eon. You killed that. Zah. E. A. Hey. Hey. What?

A. A. Oh, yeah. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh.

Ooh. You know what I find flattering about all these videos, man. You see these guys and they be working that shit and you be like all they need is Charlemagne's feet for you to get real bricked up. What? Right? Tell the truth. Tell the truth. Like you be seeing those videos or those guys twerking that shit and you said if I put

Charlamagne's face on here, it'll get real, get me real bricked up. That's better than fucking Bluetooth. That's a lot of sense. Tell the truth. I don't know what network this podcast. That's a violation. That's like the DET crowd right here. Oh, shit.

Nah, sir. Let's pay some bills, man. Let's pay some bills and come back and talk about a young thug situation. If you pull a muscle, all of a sudden you realize how often you use that muscle. So the bladder is exactly like that. When it's working well, we don't think about it. But when it's not working properly, you're getting up at night.

Or in the cases of many men, you may have some leakage. If this is something that's affecting your quality of life, there are really good solutions these days. Penn makes the guard in the shield. The shield would be if you have some leakage on occasion, if you have heavier leakage, you could use the guard. Now we got church announcements. Church announcements is when you shout out anything that you have going on.

Javanta. Javanta? Yeah. I almost had it. It's the van. It's the van that's fucking me up. And if you have an accent, if he said Javanta, then it's okay. Javata.

You want to know how to say her name? Javanta. When are you going to learn to introduce her to people? It's been a whole show. You know what? I would have known how to say her name. And when you walk in the room, you say, yo, this is my people with Javanta. Javanta Roberts, okay?

She's phenomenal. She's my motherfucking cold. She makes me look good. But no, you don't want to do that. You don't want to do that. That's why I asked if you were his lady. Oh. When I first met you, I'm like, this must be his lady because you don't want to introduce

him to the room, as if we're not married men. You know understand what I'm saying? Introducing Javanta Roberts. Javanta Roberts. What do you have going on to do you have on? Thank you. So right now, they did make the announcement. I hope I can say this.

But I am on a new series called Choose of the Game. Ooh. On BAT? Series regular. I can't say what it is. All right. I hope I don't get in trouble with any. What this will come out until Thursday, so?

Okay, cool. All right, so, yeah, I'm doing that. I'm producing a new comedy show coming up soon. And what else am I doing? I have my uni fragrance oil. Okay. I'm a mom of a two-year-old. Wow, congratulations.

Somebody shot the club up. Yay. I was engaged, but not anymore. And what else I have going on? And, you know, the raw edge collection. The raw... I wasn't excited. I was disappointed.

Like, what? You were engaged? Yo, but wait a minute. He held on. You did that. It's like the road these shit, son. He shot your club up and bounced? Wait, what about if I bounced?

How is... Oh, you bounced? Okay. I'm sorry. That's okay. We can talk about it later. And then I'm really excited about what we have going on. As Donnell mentioned earlier, the Raw Edge Collective is what we're building right now.

The raw is collective. It's a collective of individuals who are in the entertainment space, not just comedians, myself, talent, and a couple other people we're building out. And I think it's just a great collaborative partnership. And so you'll find out more when Donnell feels too. Say some more nice shit about me. Watch his face. Say something else nice about it.

No, but I really wish people could see. Like, there's a sign of Donnell nobody gets to see. And I've been privileged to it because he, He has been like a dad to me, like over the years. A dad. He has been a dad to me. And he's such a hard worker. Like, we forget how hard Donnell goes.

Like, he's always on the road. And he's still doing television. He did a great job on BMF. And I look up to him so much. And he's such a great inspiration to me as an artist. He's going to be a show. That's too positive. He's about to end the show.

He's going to do another commercial. No, because we get all the bashing and oftentimes in these spaces, especially with Donnell, it can feel easily like ganging. That's why I, you know, I'm very, I tread lightly because then it can be like, let's just bash Donnell. But I would really love for people to see how great he is as a person. I think people know that. But he's also bashable. He gives bashable energy. Anyway, thank you, Donnell.

We got a lot coming up. You don't think he gives them back. I know what's so bashful about me? You don't think he gives a little bashable energy just every now and then he kind of sets itself up for it. A little bit. A little bit. A little bit.

You know what he'd be doing. He likes the attention. No, but it's not. Yes, he does. But we're here. Just to, you know, look off with each other. Mm-hmm. That's what we're doing.

And that's like you're saying about what the energy got off. Like, everybody that I'm around, like, you know, and, like, you know, and, like, you know, life you choose, like a lot of times we put our energy into trying to make somebody thinking somebody else. Yeah. We focus on the negative people. Then you look around yourself and you look around and you say, yo, I'm feel good when I'm around this person.

I feel more motivated around this person. I feel more inspired. And like Adrian, Javent, everybody that fuck with, I'm around these people because they make me feel good about what I'm doing and I make them feel good about what they're doing. And we just come together and just make shit. What you're describing is energy transfers. Because you get to a certain point in your life where you're aware of who makes your energy go up

and you're aware of who makes your energy go down. So at some point in your life, the fiancé, made your energy go up. But then you started realizing it made your energy go down. And you had to be out. And I'll tell you, to answer that, anytime you call me... I was talking to her about her fiance. I don't know, but I'll talk about you.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. That's going to your point. When I see, when you call me, my energy goes completely down. That's a lot.

He's lying. He's lying. He's lying. He's lying. I pick up the phone. He'll pick up the phone and he started running. All the jokes that y'all be hearing now, I've heard months ago. Yeah. He runs stuff by me. And I know he's running it by me.

He don't say I want to run this by you. He just start talking. And I'd be like, when he could tell by my reaction whether he should run with it or not. You want to hear the story? Remember that time I FaceTimed you, right? Do you remember? I was with Dave, right? And he, I, I text him.

I said, I'm with Dave. We want to FaceTime. He was like, yo, what you want this late at night? Right? He says, it's too late. And I said, I'm with Dave. We want to FaceTime. That digger did like this.

Oh. And he goes, ooh. That thing is that phone. That digger asked that phone. I would have answered anyway. No, you think you're talking about you just like this. You're like, hi, Dave. You was happy.

That's not true. Yes. But I just knew that it must have been something good, which it was. This is male gossip. A little kiki. A little kiki. And he respects you too. I respect Dave.

Dave told me I'm going to be a billionaire one day. I told you that Dave told you that. But then he told me, he also told me too. He told me at Radio City Music Hall. He told me, you did tell me that, but then he told me at Radio City Music Hall. No, you did tell me that. But then he told me at Radio City Music Hall. Who told you the curse?

You told me that. Oh, my God. But he said, no, he said, I'm going to be a billionaire one day. He said, I have billionaire energy. And you know what? I think he's going to be right. Yeah. But nobody will ever know.

You're going to Byron Allen it? Huh? You're going to Byron Allen it. Yes. Buren Allen does not get the props that he deserves. No, he doesn't. Why do you think it is? I think, first off, if people don't know his story,

Byron Allen was selling jokes on the Tonight Show for like $25 a pop. He's like 14 and 15. And then he started building these relationships. with all these celebrities. And then he had this simple show. It was years ago, I think it was called Entertainer Studio. I'm mistaken. And all it was was what they doing today.

He'd just be interviewed, motherfucker. I think Shaq was one of the people, just late night. And he had these shows, he had no deal with nobody. He went to each individual market and license it to them. And it was like, okay, if I bring you this numbers, you give me that, right? And it was like his shows used to come at some weird times, 1.30 or 2 o'clock. But a lot of people didn't know. Whenever you saw he's showing it, he was getting the money.

Yeah, you know, he bought the Weather Channel. He bought the Weather Channel. Another thing people know, mostly all of those judge shows. All the Judge Shows. All the Judge Shows. All of them, that's all Byron. And the thing about it is that... The Rio, that's Byron Island.

Byron Allen could probably go anywhere in Brooklyn, anywhere, almost. With a baseball cap, not too many people would even know who he is. Yeah. I think the thing about Byron, he never had... For a black comic to reach the level he reached, you usually have like a vehicle. Meaning like we know Chappelle has Chappelle's show our life. You know, Kevin Hart's had stand up in all of these movies. You can't really pinpoint the thing Byron had that put him in that position.

But he's just... But he had business swag. Great at business. Right. You know, I remember even when I was doing this show years ago, it was Comics Unleashed. I did the show. And I had this joke that was borderline. It could be like sexual offense.

or whatever, it was something that wasn't like for TV. And I was telling him, I said, but it's a funny punchline. And he was like this. He was like, I'm trying to get to that house immailable. Wow. Right? And he just was like, all right. And it took me years later, like, all right, I could push that, but what I'd get out of it.

Or I can do this, you get something out. He's the best. Yeah, but you ended up. But that didn't work for you because you're better off being raw and edgy. You get more out of being who you are. You know why? You know why? Because that's when people know of me.

I'm telling you, every year I try to evolve some kind of way in common, whether it's the way I dress or think or whatever. And I'm like, okay, for me, this is some real shit. Even when I was, when I did a last special, I said, Dave, I want to tone down this or that. He said, he said, do that shit on your next special. Don't do it now. Pond down for what? No, when I'm set, it's certain, I look at my set. There's some certain word choice that I use.

You use the Gaisler. You say fragel maggie. I said it. And it's 90s form. But I said it in the context of a punchline. No, you didn't. Yes, I did. You literally, I saw you on stage, and you literally go, watch me say a whole bunch of shit I'm not supposed to say.

And you just started streaming. No, this is a regular show. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about my special. Oh. Netflix special. I'm saying that I know if I would have made certain tweets, I would have got a different play. They could have played.

I know certain media shows I could have done. But I know that it was raw. And it's not the like, motherfuck of compromises or not being out. But it's another side. I want to be able to do an hour special and watch it with my son. You know, I want to be able, that's what drives me.

I want to be. I watch Raw with my father. Yeah. And delirious. I know, but I want to, it's a different, I give what you saying. I mean, there was nobody hiding in Eddie Murphy. You couldn't keep your kids away from watching.

So you might as well watch. So don't you want to be hot? Huh? Don't you want to be hot? Yeah, I could be. Are you want to be mild? I'm not. Or do you want to be...

You're trying to fuck with me again. There you go. What are you talking about? No, mild is a fucking trigger word. No, I'm not naming for Chicago Bell. You got hot, you got mild? What are you talking about? You don't like mid or mild.

You can't use bed or mild. What is wrong with him? No. What I'm saying, it would be a challenge for me. And I could do it to do a set, like a clean set, but still. have raw energy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's just even in the way I speak.

Like on my special, I say the N-word a lot, you know what I'm saying? Because I'm so used to saying it, but I'm like, if you cut this, cut that, it's the same. The joke is the same. It's the same thing, but it's a different way to present it. So that's that. My church, you got any church announcements, Donnell? The Donnell Rallin Show, it's, it's funny enough, it's a show that helps you with your mental

health through comedy. Mm-hmm. Yes. It's on the Donnell Rawlings, the channel. YouTube, the Donnell-Hawling Show. But more, I mean, other than that, I'm just touring, doing dates, and just connecting with creative people

and just keep moving and enjoying what I'm doing. Well, if you really want some help with your mental health, I am having my fifth annual Mental Wealth Expo, Saturday, October 11, from 11 a.m to 4 p.m. At the Joel and Diane Bloom, the Joel and Diane Bloom Wellness and Events Center. You might as well start this over time.

I'm throwing tomatoes at that joint. At the New Jersey Institute of Technology in Newark, New York. Jersey. It is a day of mental health education and healing in honor of world mental health day. It is a free event from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. Saturday, October 11th, Newark, New Jersey to Joelle and Diane Bloom, Wellness and Event Center. Debbie Brown is going to be there. Jason Wilson is going be there. Dr. Alfie Briland Noble, Dr. Rita Walker, Elliott Connie, J. Barnett. There's some of the best mental health professionals on the planet today. And it is a free, free event. Because contrary to

Donnell Rawlings' popular belief, I don't make a dime. off being a mental health advocate. Say what's on your mind? I'm going to say nothing. You're right. I'll be there on 11th. I'll be there. Seriously?

Yeah, I'm going to pull up. 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. Come on, pull up. I'll put you on the panel. You can talk about, but you got to be serious. I had Tyrese there last year. I had him and Jason Wilson on the panel together. Did he cry?

He actually did. He actually did. It's that kind of event. I've tried there before, yo. It's that kind of event. Let's see what's going on with Young Thug. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm too old to talk about this shit.

Okay, I am. I was born in 1978. I don't give a fuck about who's snitching and who's not snitching. I don't care, okay? I'm telling you that right now. I didn't care when Gunner snitched. I just want music. Give me the slaps.

Give me the slaps. Give me the slaps. Now, when Thug came home, what I told everybody was, based off the rules of the street, based off the laws of the land, y'all supposed to give this man a heroes welcome. Right? Because the streets always talk about how you shouldn't snitch and you're supposed to hold it down. You stood on it ten toes down. I said the same thing with Bobby Smurter.

Y'all didn't give Bobby Smurter a hero's welcome, okay? Y'all don't even really fuck with Bobby music like that no more. You know what I mean? Because he'd be doing in his drawers and shit. Yeah. He could do a lot of shaking his shit down. What? Yeah, he'd be like in his snowy.

He'd be like doing all this. Bobby Smurter? Oh, I missed that shit. Yeah, they said he trade. He peeing his underwear. I don't believe that. I don't believe that. Yeah.

Look it up. Bobby Smurter? Smuddy. Nah. Google it. I bet you come up with some boxes. and shit. Okay.

Well, you prove my point even more. There's no reward for this real shit that y'all motherfuckers be on. I don't give a fuck about none of that's appreciate it. I think that's all starting to fade now. Yeah. I think of being square. Square is the new

whatever it is. Think about it though. Look what 6-9 did. Yeah. He was selling records there. He told on everybody. Yeah. But see, 6-9 never bothered me from the beginning because 6-9, we all knew he wasn't built like that anyway. Not only that, but the people

that like his shit, ain't from the streets, they're from the internet. Right. And stay the internet. Like folks, they ain't from the streets, apparently. They're all from the, it's just a new day. Yeah, that street shit is over. And nobody has to have so much access.

You asked me earlier, yeah, we were talking about that. Yeah, we were talking about her. Yeah, we were talking about her. She said, Donnell, would you snitch? I said, oh, I'm not going to be, I just don't put me in the snitching situation. I just don't want to be around people that you got. First of all, you can't snitch. I can't snitch.

I'm a civilian, okay? The point I make. If we see something, we can say something. The point I'm making is I don't want to be around this situation when you even see shit like that even happen. I'm with you. If I'm around that shit, there's something wrong. Okay? The only thing I'll say about this situation is that young dog has become a victim of an environment that he created.

Because if he hadn't have reacted to gunner, the way he reacted to gunner, nobody would be holding him accountable like they are now. And I also say, out of all of the calls I heard, 21 Savage is by far one of the smartest young men out here doing it today. And the first time I interviewed 21 Savage nine years ago, you can go look it up on YouTube. I was having a conversation when by the end of the interview, I said, man, you're a smart young man, man. You got your head on your shoulders. And I'm listening to him talk to Thug. And the things he's telling Thug is absolutely positively correct in regards to how Thug should have handled Gunner. 21 said, you have gunner's hand in your career.

If you come out and you say, this ain't that, then nobody going to look at it is that. Simple. Simple. Simple. So shout out to 21 Savage. All this other shit, you know, that ain't my business. I could care less. Is this it right here? This is the 21 clip? Yeah, play that one. Go scroll up.

Play that right there, Chris. Listen to how this man talking to the... Nah, I'm on West. I'm the same day, gonna drop, bro. You need to, I'm, I, y'all sent you a song, put a person. The guy ain't seen you no song? I ain't seen no song.

When he told the job? My name is he going to send to drop. He dropped Friday, didn't he? He dropped Friday for sure. Man, 100% is a Friday. I can hold his hit back if I want to. If my album, don't be ready, I can hold it back. The name of my album, I'm going to drop my album on the same day.

He dropped in this car. Business. That is the clip all one. I didn't understand that though. I didn't understand Thug wanting to compete with Gunner. That's his artist. It was the other clip. Yeah.

We'll find it in that, sir. It's the clip where 21 is telling, uh, Thug basically what I just said about holding his career in his hand. Let me see. Roll down. No, throw down. I have no idea what's going on in his world. Yeah, I was just like, damn. I'm open this shit.

I've been listening to Teddy Swims for last year. I'm with you. Ain't nobody got time for that street shit, man. You're the one used to always want to talk about you from the streets. No, I didn't. Now you wear high hill loafers and you don't want a motherfucker be from the streets no more. Nobody got time for that shit, man. Or maybe it's that one.

Young Thuggan 21-7 discuss Gunner and Unfo. Yeah, that one, that one, that one. No, the fourth one. That one. Click on that one. Oh, hold on. Man. You seen your brother, please?

But he said you told him to do that. Man, I don't God. That would he tell him the script. I don't know. Never mind. This ain't the clip. I don't speak niggas. I don't speak nigger like I used to.

Who recording this shit? Right. Oh, this is the one. Now, this is the one for real. This is the one. I ain't going to say nothing about you on the internet. I ain't going to let the world know. I ain't fucking with you.

Until just take them. That's what they posted did. Like, Like, but, ain't nobody really, ain't,

a nigga to me , yeah, dirt, dirt, dirt,

dirt says on so on but that's it. Like, why, them, them ain't doing all this

shit, like, why I'm unfollow them. Yeah, but, I mean, that's just,

that little boy shit, that ain't that ain't really saying that's, yeah, but that's still

yeah, but that's still announcing what your condition is, but I ain't saying they're wrong,

I'm just saying, yeah, they jumped the gun. They had a conversation with you for that anything. Yeah, but I looked at.

On Wham did, though. I talked to Wham, when he got on the phone, hey, you told him, do I'm doing to do that? All right, hey, no, he's like, all right, say left.

And he did the impression of his man? Take left. Dang, I'm about. Off top. Someone that happened. We don't even look great talking about this shit, man.

I mean, I'm just looking, it's just hard for me to take, like, The niggas will still kill you where you're saying. I know, but they can't hide the guns, so you know they got a gun. All I'm simply saying is we too old to be talking about this. I see this shit and be like, who the fuck cares who's snitching? Yeah.

Where's the music at? Oh. And everybody rich. Everybody rich. Now, see, now we can have a conversation about that. That's my biggest issue. My biggest issue is when God puts you in position to where you are able to make a great living for yourself and your family. And you're still running around.

doing street shit. I've only seen that shit in three ways. Jail, dead, or you end up labeled a snitch. Oh, yeah. So at some point, you got to cut all of that shit to fuck off

and just live the right way. I agree with 100%. I say it all the time. I mean, if you can't switch that environment, you got to leave it. And you're not going to be able. You'll go crazy trying to save the entire hood. That's right.

That was our generation. We understood that. Now everything, social media, and they just, it's so much more about image. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Come on, man.

If we had that kind of money he was doing that back in the day, why are you going along for the crime? Yeah, and listen, I'm not sitting around acting like our generation had it all together. We grew up on some wild motherfuckers. You know what I'm saying?

We grew up on some very wild people, but our rappers did a lot of lying. Our rappers were smart entertaining. Our rappers were smart enough to know they was just entertaining. That's what Chris Rock made the CB4 movie about. All the rappers that were pretending to be gangsters.

These motherfuckers are still out here wild and for real, for real, and end up in jail, dead, or labeled it snitches. Those are the three routes, the three end results of all of that shit that y'all doing. Internet beef is the funniest thing. Like, these motherfuckers actually go on live and be talking to jail. Like, the police not watching the same shit that they got out there. Last week, Donnell, we had a conversation. I don't know why.

It says, I made a controversial take that Druskey and Piel. Now, you are a veteran of sketch comedy. You are on arguably the greatest sketch comedy show of all time. I have two that I put up there as the greatest of all time. It's my one A and one B. I can't say which one is better. It's Chappelle showing in living color. For me.

Right. I personally never found Key and Peele funny. No disrespect to Key and Peele. I respect them, everything that they've built. I think Jordan Peel is amazing in films. I just personally never found Kea and Peel funny. I say that Drusky is the greatest sketch comedian of this generation and potentially the last one because I have him over Key and Pill.

What say you? I don't think Drewski is a sketch comedian. And I look at it like this, I give Key and Pell a lot of props because to be able to come behind the Chappelle Show and hold your own, I think if Key and Pee and Peele would have came before Chappelle Show, and people would have liked it even more. But Drewski, to me, I don't know too much about him, but to me, he's like a reality sketch guy.

It's reality show. His stuff is like reality based. No, he does reality too, but he does sketches. He does sketch. I don't know. I can't, I mean. See, you just a hater. You just don't find sketch.

Okay. So you said you don't consider him a sketch comedian. Why is he not a sketch comedian? I tell you this. This is what I'm telling you. Okay. What I know of him and what I see of him. I don't know.

The stuff, I see that, what I see is that, that, a record situation he could have, could have, could have been records. Yeah. It's just genius. Fantastic. You know, it's genius. That could be considered a form of sketch, but that's more reality. I think Drewski is in his own lane. I think he does his own thing.

I'm not knocking him up. I was like, I would say, who the fuck is this Drewski guy? Then I started saying a pop overplays. And I was like, I didn't know if he's a rapper or whatever. He was doing funny stuff. He's in a different lane. He's got different tools to get his shit out. You know what I'm saying?

With social media, streaming all that type of stuff. And he's a funny guy, but I don't think it's a place to, like, to compare them if one is different forms. I think it's a place to compare them because I think that when you're talking about raw talent

of sketch comedians, right? Like people who, because sketch is a hard thing to pull off. You know this. Like, everybody can't do sketch. Drewski can do sketch. Okay, but I'd say he could do sketch. What do you think, Javon?

No, let me say this. Let me ask this. What it is, is he can do sketch. He's in a funny situation. But me, when I'm seeing, when I'm knocking anything, when I see him doing stuff, I still see Drewski. No, you don't. How are you going to tell me what I see?

I still see him. Put your glasses on. Put your glasses on. No, what I'm saying is like, I see the personality, Drewski. I don't see, like, when, like, he and Piel, like, he'll play, like, they would do extensive makeup situation to look like somebody else. So does Drusky! Well, then maybe I just don't know enough about it.

Yeah, I'm saying the structure. They had a structured show, right? So how would Drewski live in an S&L environment or a Chappelle environment or? I think he'd be even better because he'd have a whole writing team. He'd have producers. So when I just talk about raw talent, I laugh when I watch Drusky sketching. I do too. I can't really remember times I've laughed at Jordan and Pee's.

I laughed too. But I would put Drusky more in comparison with like, Desi Ban. Why? Because of the generations? Just for what they both do, get-wise, sketch-wise. You know what I mean?

I think Key Impel is a whole other thing from Drews. I think if Drewski had an opportunity to do with Key Impel, that he'd be great. But for what he's doing, I don't think it's almost a comparison. I think we're comparing platforms. I think y'all are still holding TV in a higher regard than the Internet. No, you're telling us of what we're doing.

That's not what we're saying. We're telling you what the difference is. TV and the Internet? Yeah, it was like they came into two different errors. You know what I'm saying? Like when Key and Peele was popping, like, tweet, like the Instagram, all that shit wasn't popping nowadays. And I'm not taking away from me.

What's your favorite Key and Peele sketch? I think it was the one when they was crying. I forget what, they was in a gangster situation. He was sweating. The teddy beer, the teddy beer. It was something to do with teddy beer or something. Now, what's your favorite Chappelle sketch? Probably Prince.

You see how you're you. can just name that off the top without saying, I think it was the crying, the teddy bed, the, uh, the, uh, I mean, that's, that's the difference, but you know, I'm not comparing either one of them. It's just two different lanes. Who better, Shepela Kim, Hill? Um, everybody have, oh, gosh. Put the helmet on. Let's play the game, man. No, let's fucking table to the back. I guess, nothing is, I don't think anything, uh, nothing will ever surpassed. Chappelle show and what we did on Chappelle's show. But I can appreciate what Kean Pell did too.

To me, they was funny. And again, I say coming behind, getting that same time slot, coming behind what people consider one of the best sketches shows in the history of television, that's a lot of balls to be able to do that because you're going to always be compared to that.

But I think that they held their own. Was it better than Chappelle show? No. No, I don't think Keon Peele was whack at all. I'm just saying that I personally never was like dying laughing. Yeah. Like, Chappelle, you.

trying, laughing, going to school, quoting this shit the next day. We didn't do that with Key & Pell. To me, Key & Pell did not infiltrate culture. Not at the time. Yeah, it was the timing, though, of Key and Peel and when it lived, to me personally. I'm a younger generation. How old are you? I'm 38.

Oh, 38, okay, so you're all the younger generation. So Drewski or Key and Piel? Drewski. See what I'm saying? I think, I just kidding. I agree. He's funny. Funny as hell, but it's not to say.

But that's all I would say, he's funnier. He's hilarious. He's as him, like him's as raw talent, he's funny. He's just really funny. I don't get that from campus. But why do we always have to compare, why we can't just enjoy the moment and what he's fun would that be? That's why you're a piece of shit. That explains it.

What's the up right this, say. Who doesn't want to be an asshole? Asshole lives forever. Listen, let's play another bill and do some asking idiots, man. Can we do that? Javanta, this is the part of the show where guests send in questions. Okay. And we ask an idiot.

Can we go back to the group chat question? We can start with that one. In our group chat, it was asked Donnell. I don't even know if this is true, but this is a question that came up. Because I don't know if this is true. Why haven't more people from the Chappelle Show had superstar careers themselves?

A lot of, well, it wasn't, first off, it wasn't really a cast on Chappelle Show. Charlie had a great career after, I mean, all that did, Charlie. Bill Burr was part of the show. You see what that happened to him. I think some of the people that were in the camp that you see the most, they did do...

Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan. Yeah, everybody's doing it. pretty well. But even if you look at the cast, Neil Brennan has had a fantastic stand-up career. He's got some of the most, what's the word I'm looking for? Some of the most, I want to say daring. Daring is not the word I'm looking for. I can't think of the word I'm looking for, but unique, unique stand-up specials. The three-mikes special was something I've never seen before. Blocks was something I've never seen before. And Neil dares to be different. And it's so funny,

like, I've known Neil for years. I've seen him go through two transatlantic. from the young writer who wrote Half Bake with Dave, you know, to a guy who was like selling these scripts, but it wasn't getting the green light. So he wanted to get into director. He called my manager and said, yo, I'm doing this little short with Donnell be in it because he wanted to start directing. From that to when he did stand-up,

like first he was just a writer, and he was like, they're not green light in my movie, so, and I want to direct. He did that, did it very well for himself on that. and then challenged on his stand-up. He was the door guy at the Boston Comedy Club years ago. And I don't think anybody ever looked at Neil to what he's become. I have. I give Neil his props all the time.

I don't think anybody would, I know you give him his props now, but I don't think anybody in the past looked at Neil about that he would take stand-up as serious. It was always like he was an awesome writer, a producer, but the actual, I remember when he first started doing stand-up, I would go to open mics. We used to do it.

It was a comedy spot on Tuesdays in Manhattan. It was called Nails. It was a black robe, right? And I told, I said, I said, Neil, you should come down here to a spot. He came down here, right? And then he looked at that room. He had headphones on, right? He looked at that room.

All I remember, it felt like the headphones were still in the air, and they got it ran out of him up. Like, I'm not fucking with that ghetto ass crowd. Yes, I think that, I think Chappelle's show has, I mean, superstars a strong word, you know what I mean? Like how many superstars actually exist? But you've got to look at it. But you've got to look at it.

You got to thank you. But you got to look at it like, I get the question all the time. Chappelle did this for you. Chappelle did that. I get it all the time. And what I say is like, yes, what happens is he created a platform for people to see what I was capable of and what I was doing. It's not like he trained me or taught me anything. It was like this.

He didn't grow me. You stop it. Stop it. Some people just need to be planned on the same space. Yeah. I did, Snoop Dog did a special for Netflix a while ago. Right? It was called, I forgot.

Fucking around. Snoop Dog fucking around, right? And I saw on this page that all these comedies that was on. I was like, how these motherfuckers keep missing me, keep missing me? And I had talked to my agents and stuff. I was like, yeah, I really want to do that. You know, I got a decent relationship with Snoop. I was like, and everybody's like, they, we're trying.

We were trying to, couldn't do it. I was like, wait a minute. I got him in my phone book. And I just text him. I said, yo, I heard you got something going on Netflix. I went in. And he hit me with the black fist sound. He said, I got you.

Next day my people called and they were like, guess what? We got you, Snoop. I'm like, no, you didn't. I can show you the text right here. I got the receipt. You still going to give them their five percent? Huh? Yeah, but that's...

You shouldn't? That's a different... You got to eat what you killed. That's a... That's a different situation. Huh? Business, you know, agencies, I put like this, in a lot of cases, you pay to play. You know what I'm saying?

A agency gets you an audition, give you an opportunity to make millions, and then maybe that doesn't happen. Then you're doing a gig or whatever. You give them a cut. It's just a business. Nah, bro. You got to eat what you kill. 5% for something that they didn't do.

Now, if they help you with the contract, maybe. Right. You know? Well, who am I to tell you about your business? Let's do Ask an Idiots, Chris. Are you enjoying yourself? I'm having a really... Gervante.

Gervanta. I'm having a very great time. Yeah, you really can't... Gervanta. I think they're the, like... Gervanta. Do I make you nervous? No, I just...

I have trouble with pronunciation. Gervanta. Gervanta. Gervanta. Gervanta, would you consider social media a new version of the Bible? The Bible? Yes. Textbook for the future.

The good Lord's book? New version of the Bible. No, not social media. It is some people's religion. Have you ever read this book called American Gods by Neil Gavin? It turned it. It was a TV show. Oh, the TV show.

I've seen a few of the episodes. One of the new gods was Internet Boy. This is a lot of people's religion. The way people talk, the way people behave is all based off what's going on online. Well, I think social media. has become the source of information, whether it's misinformation or news rather, but I don't necessarily think that it's going to take the place of the good book, my personal opinion.

But I think people go to it first as a resource of information, whether it is religious-based or political or whatever, but I don't think it's going to take the place of the Bible. That's my personal opinion. No, I don't ever take place to the Bible. I mean, the Bible's too fire. And the Bible? I'm sure. Tyrese thinks it's the new people.

The internet? Tyrese. No, Tyrese believe in God. Tyrese believe in Jesus. What do you think, Dono? He believed in tension. No, man, would you consider social media a new version of the Bible? You ain't going to do none of that when you see Tyrese either.

You're going to ask for a picture. I'm not going to ask for the picture with Tyrese. Tyrese don't fuck with me. Why would you do to Tyrese? Because I posted a picture of him crying. I did the fuck. I post a picture of him. It was a Jordan face, but I had Tyrese.

Man, that's fucked up, man. You and Tyrese are very similar. He said, I would have expected that from somebody. And I don't know. I'm like, you don't know me. You and Tyrese are very similar. Y'all take yourself very serious. Ain't you a Capricorn?

No, Sanctuary. He told me to take it down. He said, take it down. Ain't you a Capricorn? Sagittarius. Oh. Yeah. Nah.

And you took it down for him? Hell no. Oh. And Paula says, would you have sex with the prettiest girl in the world if she had no thumbs? Well, I don't get thumbs up on either anyway, so. What's the fuck is the problem with the thumbs? That's a situation. Why would you give a fuck if she ain't got no thumbs?

That grip. You can know it with no hands. I'm saying I know thumbless people got different tricks. Like a double crasp or something. Why are you like, oh, you like the thumb for the other? Oh, my God. That's what you like. You like the hitchhike down now?

That's what you like? That's what you like? I know. That's what you like the hitchhike down now? I'm retired from comedy. You like thumb wrestling? It ain't fun no more. You like when somebody put it back there and start thumb wrestling.

That's what you like? It used to be fun. This used to be fun, son. No, I'm just trying to figure out what the problem with the thumb. Like, why do you need thumbs? Which has sex with a pretty girl in the world if she had no thumbs? Yeah, I mean, no high fives, but yeah, why not? I had a boozy moment like that once in my life.

Somebody had funs? Like, no missing limb? Why she had a young, the girl had an inverted nipple. Oh, I've never seen one of those. Yeah, so one of her nipples was poked in. You don't have one? Yeah, there's only one that was poked in. And when I asked her about it, I was like, what's up with that nipple?

And she was like, oh, that's the one that everybody like to suck on. And I'm like, ah. I'm out. Not that, it's everybody. You know what I'm saying? She's me my ex. Everybody. Like, damn, she was fine, too.

Like, like, ugh. Trying to get it to come out. I just, you know, I think about that all the time. Like, why did that turn me off so much? I don't know why. I think somebody would both inverted, but I didn't have seen it. For real? I don't think I've ever seen an inverted nipple.

Really? What does it look like? It's just flat? It literally looks like an invisible finger is poking it in. Oh, my God. Like a whole? Yeah. So it looks your nipple and it looks like it's poked in. Like, you ever seen them toys the kids play with with your poppers? Yeah, that's exactly how it looked. But if you suck

it, will it like pop out? I didn't try. I know many have tried. I didn't try. And I don't know why. I'm like, well, how did I let that inverted nipple stop me from sealing the deal? I don't know why. Look what I'm getting. There's the messages I'm getting. I've watched a bunch of those killed Tony. don't really like Tony, but it's interesting. Hands down, the best one. You killed it. I watched the last night so fucking good. He did good.

Shaleman, you got to watch it. He did good. This is fucking unbeliever. It keeps getting better and better. And now, nobody said that. I can't stop laughing. Oh, fucking Tony shodled you out on it, too. What do you say?

It was funny as shit. Yo, that shit, he's like, it was something to do with the Tranny or whatever. Yeah. And then he said, he said, He said, Charlemagne's going to have fun with this. That's why I was waiting for you this morning. to be like, I was playing for that

nigga, like, go to the video. What happened with the Transcendez? You got to watch it. You got to watch it. You got to call on? I said you got to watch it. Got to do a remix of that song for any black guy watching her right now? Yeah. We will fuck you. It's probably true.

Until you find out, she has a dick, Donnell. That's the first place to white guys look. You ruined it. It is. I'm gonna say, Charlemagne's gonna find that clip. Have you one? We will, we will. Fuck you.

You are, you are fucked Donnell. I like kill Tony. I just don't like when Donnell be on the, unless he's bombing. See, I like seeing certain people bomb. That's awful. Huh?

That's awful. Why? Joe, that's why you're a piece of shit, man. Why don't trust you? Yeah. No, come on. You're not laughing. You're sorry, Mom?

No. When she told you about it, you died laughing. This is you don't respect what we do, right? Bombing, the word bomb. You can't even joke like, to a comedian, you're like, hold on, nigga, I don't bomb. Yeah. It's very, that's a triggering word.

Especially a Muslim comedian. I never say that to them. I don't think she, I don't think, the thing is, I didn't think she bombed. It's just that she didn't have an experience. She didn't know how to deal with the situation. She was still learning. But bombing is a very, very hard.

That's a, bombing is a very, you shouldn't have so much fun saying it. It's not that I like watching people bomb. I like people try to come back from it. You think it's funny. It's hilarious. When a person is on stage by themselves, when a person is on stage by himself, and it's just a microphone, and it's the crowd, and the crowd ain't feeling them, and they're looking at that light, like, God damn, how much time I got that.

That shit is, and when they fight it. Oh, my God. And when they fighting, oh my God. You know, it's bad. Like, motherfuckers, when we just doing the cornfield shows, motherfuckers was bombing in the cornfields, and you can really hear crickets. Right.

Like, real crickets. That silence was like, ooh. Charlie Marxiano says, do we learn or just remember what we already knew? I think we learned. No, you're not going to expound on it? No, I just want to say, I think we learned.

Okay. What about you? And let's see what I think is. Yes, that's the whole thing I know. See, what we do is we learn from our mistakes. Yes. What do you think? I think sometimes, you know, as a woman, we have this intuition, right?

And we know better, but we still got to learn. You know, like, you're going to learn or you're going to have to see for yourself. We have the best advice in the world when it comes to relationships, friendships, but then we just got to go through it. So I think at some point, we kind of know, but we still have to learn. Did you know what your fiancé? I had to learn. Like, I had to learn. There were some red flags that I ignored because I always see the greatness in people.

And I just, like, their downfalls. I'm like, oh, well, this will get better or this will get better. But in the end, I kind of knew. What's his race? He's, really? He's from Guadalupe, a friend, Ribbon Island. So he's white? He's black.

Mixed a little bit. Mixed with what? White. What does he present as? Ethically ambiguous. So he looks white? No. Did Dr. Umar be disappointed?

No. Man, I'm about to get fucked about... He's a black man. He lives a black man. What you mean? I mean, I love him, nigga. Don't he owe people money? Yeah.

Don't he own money. No money. Yeah. So what's the on all here? money than Barack Obama. Right. The Barack was hitting this for $10 every day.

There's some people that's mad at me because I keep saying that Dr. Umar did what he said he was going to do. Which is? He raised the money. He bought the building. He renovated it.

It presents, it looks like a school. But you got to have the people that know how to create an actual infrastructure for a school. I think that's what he fucked up at. It's like if you wanted to build a comedy club. You asking for donations, you get the money, you go by the building. You even renovated to make it look like a comedy club,

but you have no experience on how to launch a comedy club. So what you try to say is that while he was saying he wanted to build school, he didn't know how he was going to be ran? Yes. So he's so motherfuck's a dream. But where's the money? Where's the money go? He bought the building.

Okay. And it's just sitting there. Yeah. It's renovated. The FDMG Academy is there in Delaware. But now he got behind on some bills, so I think it's up for auction now. So it's not like he didn't set out to do what he said he was going to do. I just think he just didn't have the people to help create an infrastructure.

I just tell what you said. We call that scamming. Right? I was that a scammer. No, I'm not saying it's scamming. But we want to get the school bell ring. But you've got to get the right people to help you make the school bell ring. You're going to have that far down before you have?

Right. I, listen. Michael Blaxer did it. Who? Michael Blackson. He built in Ghana, though. Yeah, but. But Michael's situation is different.

Michael just put the money up to the people who knew what they were doing. So he didn't have nobody that knew what they were doing? Clearly not. But, I mean, that was always his thing, right? Like, he wanted to do it on his own. But after a while, if you know it's not moving a certain way. And you don't have to- Not taking people.

Money. Right. Still getting the cake? I'm not sitting here arguing that one. I don't have a problem with him. I like Dr. Kumar. I did a joke about him on my speech. special and he took it lightly, so I don't have no problem.

It's just that, I don't know, that's the question everybody's asking on any of his page, where is the goddamn school? That's the question people are. Devante, Javante. Javanta. She's got. Criventa. Javanta.

Javanta. Have you heard his jokes about me? Everybody keeps telling me about it on stage. Oh, now it all makes sense. How you fucking so hard. Everybody keeps telling me that he got, he got like five 10 minutes on me. Is that true? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, he does. You ain't heard it. You don't put no attention. I'll say it to you. No, I know the, I know the, I know the, yeah, I know your joke. I don't heard a few times. Oh, you heard it? Yeah.

It's funny? What? You wrote it didn't you, ain't? No, no. Donnell got him in his pocket. Adrian wrote it. Because you know what those jokes come from. And then, you know how you like delight?

Like, when you see niggas suffer? When I got them laughing, I go extra long with the shit. He'd be like, oh, yeah, they win it. Yo, what, they're with it, nigga? Yeah. Yo, I'm like, they still laughing, nigga. You know that shoulder, d'nigger. Yo, if they laugh.

That nights he back off of it, some night he's leaving. Yeah, sometimes it don't hit. I'm like, ah, no, I'm fucking a bigger. Sometimes I don't. It depends what room you in. Sometimes I do a call back. I say, y'all remember what I said about the digger earlier, right? And do it.

The Rico Graham says, what's the biggest mistake we can make with our money? Giving it. Not invested. No, the biggest mistake you can make with your money is giving it to everybody.

I think you, and you, I remember Jay-Z, I interviewed him when I was at Power years ago, we interviewed him. And he was like, if you can get through that first lick,

that first lick, the first, like, grip of money where you're like, oh, I got you. y'all give a child wanting everything he says the second time when it really starts to pop but that's the hardest thing to do is protect your money from people family people close to you because motherfuckers will suck you dry yeah not investing I think when you get a lump sum of money you don't put it in the proper diversify your money I think that's a big mistake as well yeah I agree with all of that I think the

biggest mistake you can make with your money is not saving it I think that you know a lot of times we being such a rush to keep up with people or, you know, you're looking at social media and you want to keep up with the latest trends. You want to have the latest designer clothes or car, whatever it is. What you're in a rush to spend your money for, man? My daddy used to always say, man, stop treating your money like it's on fire in your pocket. And you just got to get it out. You know what I mean?

Put that shit in the motherfucker bank and let that shit sit there for a minute. Because there's going to be a time where there's something you really, really, really, really want to do and you're going to really, really need the money for. and you're going to want to go go go go be able to touch something i've never spent the television check oh yeah never spent the television check never have not all them late night talk shows and all that shit i never ever spent one check that shit is just sitting in a bank account pay your taxes on it and keep it the fuck moving but that's when you have you know different you have enough screams and income coming in to where you don't have to touch that money

But that's all financial literacy, too. A lot of people just don't know anything about that. Especially from hood. They just don't know. It's like I got to get to the next check. Yeah, let's do one more. What else we got, Alex? Scroll up.

What other you got? Yeah. I have no clue on this. This is a good question, though, but I don't have any idea. Charlemagne, any advice on vacation trips for a boys trip for men that are 30, 35 and single? I've been with my woman for 27 years. I don't know nothing by no goddamn boys trip. Going away on no boys trip.

Why? Who wants to go on a boys trip? Right. You do. 30 to 35? You do, sir. That's why they asked you. What about you and done that?

They think you trade. They think you trade. Yeah. You'd be doing that? What? Going on boys trips. I don't go on boys trip. Yes, you do.

You be telling them coming to the river? I don't, dad. I don't be like, hey guys, this has had boys tonight. What do you call it? Niggas pull up. It just be, niggas I fuck with. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, but you cook for all the guys. And then y'all go tubing. Now, guys... Y'all be doing the kayaking thing? Guys don't prepare like women do. Guys, I'm like, oh, I don't do it. Guys night out. I don't even do guys.

Yes, you don't do. What about when you be going down the river and be you and another guy in the tube? The only person in my motherfucking, you know, first... I don't fuck with the tubes. I got a canoe. I fuck with canoe. I fuck with a canoe. The only person...

Only people have been to my canoe is, My son and a woman. That's it. I ain't never doubled up in the canoe with a dude. Never? No. Okay. All right.

Well, that's it, guys. Javante. Javanta. Thank you. Javanta. Thank you for joining us. Thank you so much for having me. I had a really good time.

Absolutely. Donnell Rawlings. Thank you for joining us. You can listen to the Donnell Rawlings podcast starring Javanta Roberts. Okay. Co-hosted by Donnell Rollins. You can't even get the fuck out. Look at you. Good for you. Good for you. As always, if you listen to... Oh, Adrian, thank you, brother.

Absolutely. Make sure you check him out on Kill Tony. He killed it. And as always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast, I think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right, too. It's a brilliant idiotous podcast. Thank you for listening.