The Brilliant Idiots - Atlantic Ocean 11

Episode Date: November 21, 2019

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I'm having my turkey, annual turkey giveaway this Saturday. Really? Monks Corner, South Carolina, at Berkeley High School. You know how we do every year, you know? It's just, it's been going on for a long time. I thank God that I'm blessed to do it another year.

Fuck y'all who think that, you know, giving out turkeys is whack. that's, y'all are saying that from a place of privilege because there's plenty of people out there who can't afford those butterballs whatever the fuck we use, you know what I mean? Who criticizes giving out turkeys? Well, you just see people do that.

I mean, I've seen that over the years. I see a lot of people say like, you know, that's just something that, you know, people do when they get in certain positions. Like, it's almost like a throwaway thing. It's like, there's no meaning behind it. Like, you're just doing it to make yourself feel better. And I'm like, no.

Holidays have a certain meaning, okay? Having a Thanksgiving. Have you ever celebrated a Christmas or Thanksgiving alone? Have you ever celebrated a Christmas with no gifts? Have you ever celebrated a Thanksgiving with no turkey? Nothing makes you feel fucking sadder. Right? Yeah.

You're right. It is a fucking sad day. I remember I talked about this very podcast. I think last Christmas I didn't meet up with my family until later that day. I was looking for a place to eat. I ate by myself in a fucking hotel. Duval told me that Duval said he had a baby because of that. He said he wanted to have a child.

but he never felt alone on holidays. Seems like a huge investment. But hey, it's... Sweetheart, I had you for two days a year, but thank you for being... No, but in all seriousness, it's like, regardless of this is what these families do with the turkey or not, who knows, you know, maybe they could go flip the turkey somewhere else. We're not exactly sure.

That's their business. That's their business. But having people to be around for the holidays is crucial, man. I don't know what it is about like It's so weird It's like during a regular Any regular Thursday or regular Tuesday I don't care if I'm by myself watching Netflix

But if it's Thanksgiving or Christmas And I know everybody's with their loved ones And I'm not I felt so fucking lonely man Why is that? Why are we influenced by what other people are doing? It's formal It's really just formal

It's FOMO And literally all it is It's the fear of missing out It's a day where you know everybody's congregating having a good motherfucking time and nobody invited you over

nobody think your joke slap nobody likes your company nobody wants to talk sports with you damn you're getting personal no I don't get that I get invited I'm talking about me no I'm sitting around like I'm gonna be in Mons Corner and I'm like

no we're not going over there no we're not going over there no you're Prissy you're Siddi you got all the invites and you're picking out who's you're going to go to Wow but You, a little extra sauce on that lap.

But no, 12 p.m. to 3 p.m. This Saturday at the Old Berkeley High Gymnasium, 406, West Main Street, Moscow and South Carolina. Local vendors would be on site. One turkey per household with valid ID. We'll see you for the sixth annual third eye awareness turkey giveaway

this Saturday in Montccona South Carolina. Question. Yes, sir. Why do you need ID to get a turkey? I don't know why Kentee puts that on that. That's the dumbest shit in the world. I really don't. Kente has that on there. I don't even know why I read that just now.

It's really stupid. Who gives a fuck? Here, here's an ID that showed you. I can't afford a turkey. No, motherfucker. Like, what the fuck is that mean? I already gave a turkey to a Jenkins. Yes.

Are you related to the Jenkins family? Like, come on, y'all. By the way, even if I could afford a turkey, I would go get a free one. Yeah. Why the fuck wouldn't you? How much is a turkey? I don't know. How much a turkey is Taylor?

They're expensive. Like 50? They're not cheap. A hundred? No, they're not a hundred. 50 for real? Probably you gotta think Thanksgiving Day they know they put the prices up on them up.

Oh, you think they hike up Turkey. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, listen, God bless. We'll see you on Saturday. Now, where do we start? Well, I think one place we can start at is, and it's inspired by Turkey, but... They're 100 something.

Yeah. No. Let me see. Turkey's cost 100 fucking dollars? Amen. Butterball premium. That shit says $1.49, Taylor. Because that's some organic fresh shit.

That's some fake shit. Let's putterball, man. Let's pull up this butterball. This butterball, premium, all-natural young turkey. 22 to 24. What's a dollar 49 a pound? Exactly. So it's 24 pounds.

So you're getting 100-pound turkey? What's 24-pound turkey? 100-pound turkey is a raptor. $35? Wow. You eat? $35? $35.

$35. All right. So where do we start? So I think a good place to start is because we're talking about things that not everybody can have, right? And, you know, Turkey on Thanksgiving is something. Not everybody can have. Hairlines are things that not everybody can have. And I know that you're going through a little bit of hairline withdrawal.

No. I know you don't want to admit it. But I'm looking at the posts. You know what I mean? Thou doth protest too much. You know what I mean? It's kind of leaning into a good bit. It is a good bit.

Don't get me wrong. I like the trap toupee. I like the alliteration. Very good. We can hashtag it. But I feel deep down when this technology gets good enough that it's literally just a cream and then your hair comes back. It's Chia Pet. I feel like you're in.

Let me tell you something about Shalamanagh. Anything I've shitted on is because I've tried it and it didn't work for me. Now, let's talk about it, right? Okay. Uh-oh. I did PRP. What? What is that?

PRP? I don't know what you thought it was. Honestly, I was like, you're trying to grow titties, bro? What the fuck is PRP? You transition. What is that? Yeah, PRP. Platelet rich plasma.

Plasma, right? Yeah, and it's a form of regenerative medicine that can harness those abilities and amplify the natural growth factors your body uses. That's what Kobe did in his knees. Yeah, so what Dr. Natasha Sandy, for real? Dr. Dr. Natasha Sandy.

Yeah. one of my trusted people in my cabinet. Yeah. She's been telling me about PRP because I would always see all of these people in there. Like people go there for dermatology. Yeah. But then, like, I would see all of these guys in there.

I'm like, all these guys come here for dermatology? And she's like, yeah, but, you know, a lot of people nowadays are doing PRP. Right. And I'm like, well, what is PRP? And so she just broke it down for you. It's when they draw the blood out of your body and then they put it in like this blender

and then they spin it up and then it creates like this yellow plasma. and then they take the yellow plasma and they shoot it back into, I guess, whatever it is you want to grow. Right. So for me, they shot it back into my hair line right here

and shot it back into a couple of bald spots up top. Tori Lane's got it. Tori Lane's admitted he got it this morning. Yeah. Envy still lying about whatever his procedure was, you know? But I did it. The reason I stopped doing it because you got to do it six times. Yeah.

That shit hurts, bro. Really? For me, I don't like needles anyway. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So to be getting needles in my fucking hands. you got to really sit back and think to yourself, why am I doing this?

Yeah, yeah. This is not a life of death situation. God blessed me with the type of head that is good for a baldy. Just keep getting the shave, bro. Like, I'm cool. What am I going to do with a hairline? What kind of hairstyle am I going to rock?

Do I really want a seizure that bad? No. Yeah, I don't see you with a seizure. What would you do? I see like a little fro almost. The fact that I couldn't think of that, think of what I would do? Yeah, I don't want it.

And I wouldn't get a frown. That's too much maintenance. Like a high top phase. I'm a, I'm a get up and go person. Yeah. I can't be waking up in the morning with the pick and all that shit. I live that part of my life. I experienced that.

Yeah, but what about that black power pick? That would be hard. That would be hard. That would be hard. You know? Like a cool little mental health pick. Like massages your head. No, the black power, I thought about it.

I thought about, yo, it would be real dope to have a fro. Nobody's doing that no more. With the black power fits, that shit would be so timely for this climate. Yeah. But I'm cool on it. You know what else is good for a colder climate? Hair. Hey, that's what I got hats.

You get your wool hat. I am on the pills. And plus you look stupid. I'm on the pills to not lose my hair. You're talking to something. Yes. You started losing your hair? Like 10 years ago.

And I got on the pills so that it stops it. You know Michael Rubin? Prevented a measure. What? Michael Rubin. Yes. Michael Rubin went to the same doctor as LeBron. Well, he must have got different, he got some white privilege treatment or something like that

because his hair looks official. The LeBron's hair looks like Astrobin. John's shit don't look official because we've seen him without hair. No, it doesn't look good because it doesn't look good. He is too bald spots in the back of his head. Even now? Even now. And then the front of his hair just kind of like slid back.

It was really odd. You didn't see this when he was... I was a receding joint. No. He got hit during the game. Anthony Davis told him... Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro, get that shit back. And by the way, LeBron, you're making too much money to have that kind of trap to.

Especially in L.A., where you know the best. In Cleveland, I understand it. But in Los Angeles, you have to... to be able to get the best hair. You can get the best trap toupee that money can offer them. So you're saying that if it was light switch, you would do it. Why does the Nike make LeBron a real fucking trap two pay? What?

Shouldn't that be the next thing? The trap toupee with the Nike logo on it? Oh, the real fly net. That'd be sick, dude. That would be sick. Imagine that LeBron. Dude, how have they not got on this? Well, right, because LeBron shit right now is made a dry fit.

That's what that shit is right now. The shit he's wearing right now is the drive fit. goddamn trap toupee. That's what that is. Dude, he needs hair, though. He did go ball that looks horrible. I don't remember his balls. Certain people don't look good ball.

He shaved it once, and he was in the gym. Yeah, my little brother, my little brother, Julia, he got a ball denou because he started losing his shit. Yeah. He's way younger than me. And he sent us a picture of his new baby, and it was just his ball head with the mustache. And I hit him back like, bro,

you already trusting your baby with strangers? I'm like, whose granddad is holding your fucking child? Is that bad? Oh, my God. Let me see if I got a picture. He looks crazy. He looked like he is mad that they build in the wall at the border. Hold on.

You look for Mexican? Yes. Let me see it. Hold on. Hold on. Let me see if I can find him. Let me see this. I'm going to be firing his ass up next week.

Anyway, the, um, so yeah, so we, what, let me see what? You got it? Let me see it. Give it, good. Bro, that's your younger brother, dude? Bro, he's like 33. He looks like Ving Rames, dude. Bro.

Your younger brother looks like he's about to beat the shit at a Tyrese. Bro, this is nuts. Bro. That's not your younger, brother. That's got to be that app. There's no way. I've never seen a black guy age worse in my life, bro. This is astonishing, dude.

He's not no 33. 33 and Celsius? He loves you, too. This motherfucker gotta be 33. He loves you too, bro. Listen, I love him, but he needed. Hey, bro, you need it. Son, you see what shirt he's wearing?

Flash. He's aging like Flash, bro. Son. He got the flash run on because he aged. He didn't look like this at your wedding, bro. That was 10 years ago, or five years ago. Shit happens. Dog, I never thought that.

That's your dad. No, but that's not. Stop playing, bro. That's not your younger brother, bro. Not because the facial hair, is your facial hair that gray? Uh, in parts. My dad got a full gray beard. Charlemagne.

Charlemagne. Charlemagne. Charlemagne. Charlemagne. Charlemagne. Charlemagne. Oh, my God. There's no way.

Oh. Yo, there's no way. He got to shave all that down, bro. For what? Because he's a handsome guy No He's not He's not

No he's a handsome guy Let me see if I can find another piece That's a handsome guy But that his He looks too old Don't he look like Let me see it in No they put the old man app

On him They put the old man app on him This is the old man app You piece of shit Don't he look like he It's the old man app But it's only It's only

It's only a year older Than what he actually is You know you can put the age On it So he's at the 34 Bro, don't he look like Hey, come here, young blood, let me talk in, man. Let me talk to you, young blood.

Let me talk to you, young blood. I might have a real picture in there. Let me see. Oh, why'd you do that to him, bro? That's fucked up, dog. He just sent me a picture, too. Yeah, no, because he look. Hold on.

No, there's no way someone can age that bad in 10 years. Shit. There's no way. Bro, you ever seen a crackhead? What do you mean? White women age bad? You think? It's no.

I don't date any of them when they get old. What the last time you dated a white woman? My girl now's white. I thought you gave up for him for Lent. I did. Then I came back, bro, just like Lent. I just had a little sabbatical. Jesus showed me to wait.

Let's talk football, man. Appreciate you, Jesus. Oh, are we going to talk Cap? We can talk Cap and Antonio Brown, man. Okay, is Cap out here capping? Is Cap capping? By the looks of things, no. I mean, by the looks at things,

if there was a waiver that, you know, that he had to sign that was going to cause him to have to give up his rights to possibly sue in the future. Right. Nah, that's not Cap. You know? But sue in the future, I believe it said

for the time between the settlement and the... Well, it said anything you did last time. I think he did last time. Right. Last time he sued for the two years that he was out of the league. Right. Yeah, so he got a settlement for that. And he could take him back to court again in a couple of years.

You know, clearly. Right. So, like, I guess I think what it said is you can't sue from the time between the settlement and the tryout. I don't think it's anything about after that. I heard it was for future rights. Let's break the cap to Jury, Duck. And I can tell you, I went through a rollercoast of emotion with this, right? Yeah.

Last week, you know, we heard about to tryout. Everybody was saying, oh, tryouts don't happen on Saturdays. You know, why is the league doing this now? This is how I looked at it. I looked at it as Colin Kaepernick has been blackballed out of the league for the past few years, right? I think that the NFL knows that. The owners in the league know that.

Yes. When you have somebody like a Jay-Z who's now got a seat at this table and he's in there, constantly pushing, right? Not just Jay-Z, but people on the outside. The whole I'm-Wit-Cap campaign saying how we want Cap back in the league is just a problem that won't go away. And Jay-Z letting them know, like, look, you can do partnerships

with me all day, but that's not going to make this problem go away until you do right by cap, right? So I looked at it from the Fox News perspective. You know, people hate when I say I watch Fox News, but I watch Fox News because I like to see the other perspective because I like to see how people see things, right? Other people see things. The Doofo Fox News was on TV yelling and screaming, ranting and raving, saying,

why is Colin Kaepernick getting special privileges? Why are they doing a workout for him on a Saturday? Why is it at Atlanta fucking stadium? Why is he able to pick his own receivers? Just yelling and screaming, all of these different things. He was mad. Meanwhile, the other side is looking at it suspiciously as they should from the perspective of, what the fuck is the NFL up to?

Why would the NFL have this happening on? on the Saturday. The reason all this shit happened in an unorthodox way is because it was an unorthodox method of getting it pushed through. It literally was somebody who has a seat at the table

telling these motherfuckers like, no, this shit is not going to go away to y'all give cap a tryout. Now, anybody... Can you explain the Saturday thing real quick? Well, because most workouts are on Tuesday. And I guess that's because that's when the team would have the most time.

I think that's an off day, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So hypothetically, a coach would be able to fly out on Tuesday to watch, whereas a Saturday they're probably prepping for Sunday's game. Yeah, but I don't think, I was also told by some players that coaches don't go to workouts.

They would never go. I mean, a coach is working 24-7. It depends on the player. Coaches and GMs might show up. But they were like, once in a time, no, coaches and GM don't come to work out. They would send their staff. And then I guess some people believe that, like, you don't want to send your staff on a Saturday because you might be doing game prep still and it could take away.

Right. And by the way, NFL scouts are always out on Friday. It's this thing called college football that they go and watch people all the time. So the Saturday thing, I think, was kind of like a moot point, right? Yes. And from what I was told. You know, it was three owners that specifically agreed to do this. Once the three agreed to do it, the NFL sent out the memo,

letting them know that it's going to be this practice on Saturday. Great. They were hoping for the spectacle. They wanted this big, grand thing for Cap. You know what I'm saying? Because after you've been blackballed for three leagues for three years, don't you think he kind of deserves that? Yeah.

And I don't think that the NFL would put together. this workout and, you know, have all of these teams come out and not sign him. They look even crazier than they do right now. You know what I mean? Yeah. Right? They look even crazier. Now, my perspective of it was this.

I wanted Cap to show up. I wanted him to work out. I wanted him to get back in the league. Not because I necessarily want him back in the league, but if that's what makes him happy, because I think Colin Kaepernick is bigger than football. And I think what Colin Kaepernick represents is bigger than football. You know what I'm saying? And I think that if somebody has shown you who they are, believe them.

And I don't like this whole rhetoric of, you know, well, Colin really loves football or Antonio Brown really loves football and there's no other place for them to go. I get that. I understand loving something so much that you just want to be a part of it. But not at the expense of your peace of mind, not at the expense of your integrity, you know, not at the expense of you having to kowtow to some motherfuckers that don't like you. I'm a stern believing go where you're celebrated, not with your tolerated. not what you're tolerated.

You know what I mean? Like Antonio Brown literally said, fuck the NFL. You know, they're a plantation. I'll never play there again a couple weeks ago. Yesterday,

he's apologizing to Robert Kraft. You know what I'm saying? That hurt my feelings. And the reason I hurt my feelings is because until one of these players says fuck the NFL and means it, there's going to continue to be brothers

in this position. Now, with Cap, Cap allegedly got the wave around Wednesday. If you got the waiver on Wednesday and it had that language in it, one or two things should happen. Your lawyer should push back. That's what we get contracts all the time. Like if there's something in the contract you don't like,

you take it to fuck out, right? Especially if you actually do plan to show up and go work out. Like you send the contract back. They said the contract got back Saturday, 12.03 p.m. So I don't know why you would wait until long to send it back. Right. If that's true. Also, if the NFL came to you...

Three days for one clause. It sounds like a lot. If the NFL came to you and they said it's a take of it to leave it deal. Yeah. Fucking leave it. That's it. Like you're Colin Kaepernick. Yeah.

I don't give a, like you can't, even if you do love football that much, you got to understand what you mean. Yeah. The people at this point and you represent something way bigger than you. You can't bow down to the league's demands because you don't have to. You're not some poor kid. You got the Nike endorsement. You got book deals. You got.

TV show they would do Vinay, like you're in a position to where you don't have to do that. So if people see you, you know, conforming to their demands, even though you know that they're doing you wrong, what kind of message is that sin? And when, if you're going to show,

I wouldn't have showed up at all. If that was in my waiver, if that was actually in the waiver and they was trying to get me to sign my rights away and my lawyer pushed back and they told me no and then they said some take of leave of the shit, I wouldn't show up at all. And I'll be on the internet with this waiver.

showing this shit in the air, letting people know these motherfuckers are still trying to collude against me. Look at this bullshit. They're trying to make me sign. You know what I mean? Just out of curiosity, hypothetically speaking, if we put ourselves in the NFL shoes, right? And let's assume there's no nefarious intent by the NFL.

Let's assume Jay-Z goes in there. He speaks to these three very influential owners, gets everybody on the same page, and they all agree to literally give Colin the best chance to make a team. Matter of fact, let's say we've had agreements from multiple teams. Let's say we've had agreements from multiple teams that they're truly interested.

That if he plays decently, they think that they'll actually sign him, right? Maybe that clause is in there because they're going, we're going to go leaps and bounds to give you the best chance to make a team, something we've never done for any player in history. We've never had a single player, 25 team tryout.

Never happened. The whole world is there watching. You have, we're going to do it in the Atlanta Falcon Stadium. We're going to do it on... And a black city like Atlanta. This shit was set up like a goddamn fantasy. Like Atlanta, the blackest city in the world. You, one man.

25 teams are here to watch you work out. Succeed, do well. Best case scenario. We want you to make a team. And not only do we want you to make a team, we've kind of spoken to owners that said they would sign you. Right? Bro, you was going to get signed.

He was going to get signed. So for me, the language is, for me, the language is, we're coming. And again, it could be wrong. This is just hypothetical speaking. But one way of looking at it is we're going above and beyond to give you the best chance to make a team. So you can't sue us after this if you don't make the team because we're literally doing everything, things we've never done for anybody else.

If you still sue us after that, what the fuck? But guess what? If I'm Colin Kaplan. You see what I'm saying, though? I see what you're saying? and you make a great point. Potentially, a hypothetical. Yeah, but if I'm Colin Kaepernick, I'm his team, I can't trust that.

And I have no reason to trust that. And this is what we were talking about on Flagrant. There is so much distrust, I believe, from both sides. Like the NFL put that clause in there because they don't trust Cap. Cap doesn't want to do it because they don't trust the NFL. And you know what? He shouldn't. Both of them are absolutely correct.

For the last three years. Absolutely. And that's my whole thing, right? But now you have that toxic relationship? You guys are never going to be able to work. And that's why I agree with what you're saying, which is if you know you're not going to do. with it.

Fuck them. Fuck them. Fuck them. And you got to mean it. You can't say fuck them, but I want to play. And I want the owners to call me and stop being a kid. Nah, man. No, fuck him.

We out. No. After this week, Colin Kaepernick's mentality and a lot of other brothers in the league mentality and a lot of black people that watch football's mentality should be fuck it if that waiver is really that. But you know why the reason nobody will ever say fuck it? Because there never was a clear-cut boycott called on the NFL by Colin Kaepernick. Colin is the person

Colin is the person that has to lead that charge. Like I saw my man Artemis Gordon talking about how you know, Colin, you know,

he's a leader whether he wants to be or not. So eventually he has to say something. That's the truth. You can't be a silent leader. Yeah, where are we going?

Where are we going? What do you want us to do? That's it. How would you like us to protest? You made the decision not to talk to the press for the last couple years, last three years.

That's your decision. But don't be surprised if your message is being confused or conflated when you're not there to control the narrative. Even when you talk all this shit about controlling the narrative and how important that was to have your press or the

press access to this tryout. You've never cared about press before. I would like to say that's not controlling the narrative. And what I mean by that is controlling the narrative is not doing exactly what people thought you was going to do. Like a lot of people were betting that Colin wasn't going to show up. I was hearing words like self-sabotage being thrown around. Like he'll find a way to mess this up. People thought people thought my, my beautiful sister who's mad at me right now, Nessa, they thought that she was going while out this week, you know what I mean?

Why is Nessa mad? I mean, we're just not seeing out of eye on this situation, but, you know, I don't worry about things like that simply because when I love somebody and I consider somebody family, I know even if we have disagreements, you know, will always be family. And I think, man, one thing that really bothers me

about the situation, just a side note, it's so divisive, it's so much divisiveness between black people in this situation, right? People feel like they got to be Team Colin. People feel like they got to be Team Jay-Z. You understand what I'm saying? And when you have that kind of divisiveness, you got to be very careful of people

who really, really, really want that divisiveness to continue to happen. So when they know, you know, Colin and Nessa feel away, or they know, you know, Jay is over here, you got all these different people coming back saying certain things. oh well you know Jay you know

Colin them said this Colin and you know Jay and them said this you know oh you see this person is against you you know this person was speaking about you and it's such a lack of trust from everybody and you're already naturally paranoid

and suspicious of everybody's intentions that you just be like fuck everybody I'm gonna just stick over here with my motherfuckers and kick it with my crew you can't trust anyone and after people use this divisiveness to really to really bring down great movements

because everybody knows people are stronger together. You know what I'm saying? And you got to be very careful about people like that. Like, don't come to me telling me what somebody said about me when I'm going through something. You understand what I'm saying? Say that again. Don't come to me and tell me what somebody said about me

when I'm going through something. I may feel away. I'll give you an example. If me and you had an issue, right? Yeah. And no, it's happened. Yeah. It wasn't even a real issue.

when all of that shit was going on and everybody was like, oh, you need to stop doing the brilliant idiots podcast and this and that. It was people coming to me trying to tell me how toxic Andrew Shult is.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And in that moment, I'm like, shit, well, maybe it is toxic. And you said one thing to me, you said one thing to me that bought me back to reality.

What I said? You said, are you saying it's my fault? Are you playing it in all me? Bro, you said it. And I said, he's absolutely right. I pushed back a little because I was like, yeah, but you was laughing. And I'm like,

and you was making jokes. But no, nigger, you said it. Well, you didn't say nigger. But you said it. But you said it. But you said it. And that's the truth to the matter. People will take advantage.

They will take advantage when the emotions are high. And it's why. you can't come to me, you can't come to me, even if I have an opinion about Colin Kaepernick, who I respect and love because he respects and loves somebody I consider a family, which is Nessa. Right. If you have, even if I have an opinion about him,

that may not be the general consensus or whatever, whatever. Right. You can't come to me and tell me anything bad about Nessa. I'm not going to let anybody talk bad. You know, you're not going to come to me and tell me Nessa's anti-Black anything. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not going to allow those conversations to happen. Those are family conversations

that happen amongst people who I consider family. You know what I mean? That's when I saw Nessa and I saw Caputti Tala Ferry event. I'm like motherfuckers, we're supposed to be family. Like, if you got a problem with something and I said, call me and check me, tell me. We can, we have

that kind of relationship. Yeah. Because I want to have the proper information so I can go out there and defend y'all when need be. It is, it is a very is a very tricky situation, especially when these type of things happen, because two things can be true.

We often speak about that, this on a podcast. You can support everything Cap has done and think that he didn't handle this in the best way possible. Oh, let's get back to that. I didn't. It's two reasons.

Number one, before I knew about the waiver, right? I was just like, yo, this is ridiculous. Right. Like, just go to Atlanta and just a workout if you want to play. Like, why are you, why did you wait until the day of to move it to a high school? And, like, you can't possibly expect this professional organization where 25 teams showed up. You're dealing with a bunch of rich motherfuckers with egos.

They came to Falcon Stadium. And now all of a sudden, you switching it at the last minute, telling them to come to some high school hour or something away, you got to know they're going to give you their ass to kiss. You got to know they're going to throw the middle finger to you. Now, I was happy to hear that eight other teams went. But if I'm an owner, Rex Ryan said this shit and this shit is real. Yeah.

Rex Ryan was like, I don't want this circus. I don't want this circus. I don't want this circus. I don't want this circus. Like, and I'm not saying that, you know, people talk about respectability and respectability politics and, you know, I saw them getting at Stephen A for what Stephen A was saying. Yeah.

Some of what Stephen A was saying is true. You got to remember at the end of the day, you're the one trying to get a job. Yeah. We're not bosses. I don't own eye heart radio. You are asking to be an employee. You're asking to be an employee. And, yo, why would you want to continue to work out and work for these people that are continuing to oppress you?

Now, and when I say continuing, just this week alone, if what they say about the waiver is true and they want a cap to sign his rights away, if what they say about the NFL saying, take her to leave it, you got two hours is true. Cap should be given them his dick to suck. Fuck the NFL. Right. Like there's no reason to be down there on Atlanta on Saturday playing their game. These people can't play you unless you allow yourself to continue to be played. But speaking of football, this is Charlie Brown continuing to run the football and they're moving, Lucy moving to motherfucker. That's what I see when I saw this and I don't like my brothers being in that position.

That, that, and all that is true if the NFL did this whole thing to fuck over Kappanek, which seems like a lot to fuck. I don't see someone over. I don't, yeah. I truly believe they were going to get him a job. I do too. They were calling it a Trojan horse. Yeah. That's, I.

What is that? So you get, who, who's the horse? The Trojan horse would be the big workout. Right. So in the Trojan horse, they had the, the Trojans were inside the horse. Yes. They offered as a gift. It goes inside, whoever, and then once it's in there.

You got you. So what would be the Trojan horse is the workout. Okay, the workout. You sign his paperwork. go do the workout, but we got you that you can't sue us in the future. But you got a team. Yeah, I mean, yeah, if he got a job and bawled out, he didn't have no reason to. But what, I said, I wouldn't trust him if I was cap, because check it out.

What if I signed that contract, go work out, get signed, and then get cut in the week. Yo, 100%. Do you know what I'm saying? No, no, 100%. A grand opening, grand closing. And listen, you're 100% right. You're 100% right. I just don't think it's the most unreasonable thing.

I don't think it's the, if I'm the NFL, I would actually be open about it. I'd be like, yeah, that was our deal. We're going to do everything in our power to get you on a team. We brought the whole fucking league to go see it. And in exchange for that, you got to not sue us.

If you believe in your talent so much and you think it is so exemplary that you're going to wow these coaches and trust us, this is the NFL. We forgive shit. People out here beating their wives every other day. They're on teams every other year. Yeah.

Right? Kareem Hunt, Tyree Kill, still on teams. Yeah. Right? So it's like, we don't care as long as you ball out. NFL is very clear about that, right? We're going to do everything in our power

to get you on a team. We've never done this before. All you got to do is waive your right to sue us after we give you the best case scenario to be on a team. That's a reasonable deal. Can't trust it if I'm cap, though, man. Hey, cap, absolutely not.

Yeah, can't trust him from cap. You know who would take that deal in the heartbeat? Antonio Brown. What do you think he was apologizing for? Because he won't. Antonio Brown's apologizing. I'll work out.

I'll be this Saturday. Antio Brown looked at the New England Patriots on Saturday and was like, he ain't got no motherfucking receiver. Todd Gordon is gone Gronkins retired Yo the Patriots started With all the best receivers

Everybody's talking about They're receiving call Brady's gonna break all these records They have no receivers Now except for Julian Edelman Antonio's like Shit fuck all that king Hey Robert Kraft

I am sorry I am ready to come back And work on that goddamn plantation That shit hurt my heart though I'm not going to Because he went so hard man You can't go so hard

And then come back like dad You can't do it Yo this shit sounded crazy Let me see Why do you have to see Why do you think they do it so emotionally? You said it. You just said it.

But why do you think they operate when they're so emotional? Do you think that a lot of these guys are just young? Do we underestimate their age? What you just said, hit the nail on the head. Right. They are doing it emotionally. They're moving off of emotion and not strategy. That's why I always tell people move off strategy and not emotion.

Because when you move off emotion, you make a mistake. That's why therapy is so good. That's why your spiritual counselor is so good. That's why learning your breathing exercises is so good. Whenever you get those emotions are natural. I'm not telling you not to feel that shit. Because you will feel it. No matter what.

But feel your feels. Yes. And when you feel your feels and you feel that anger, you feel that jealousy, that envy, that sadness, just feel it. Breathe it out. There's a story. They make a decision. My buddy worked for a basketball team. And there was this player that missed this wide open jump shot to win the game.

And he was in the locker room and they were all about to leave. my buddy walks up to him. He's like, are you ready to go? He goes, the player goes, no, I just got to sit here and deal with this. He goes, what do you mean? He goes, I can't leave here until I've dealt with this. Because when I leave here, I'm not going to be thinking about it anymore.

And that was true. Yo, I really respected it. That's true. He took the time, if it was an hour, if it was two hours, whatever it was. He took the time to go through all the fucking feelings. So when he left that building, that was in the past. Instead of, like I'm sure you and I've done, and so many people listening right now have done, just walked around the whole fucking day, stewing upset about something, trying to distract the week, the month.

Week, the month. Years, motherfucker. You're talking about it. I'm stewing right now over a couple motherfuckers. Years, okay? Years. I know a couple of people not getting turkeys. That's right.

Listen, Antonio Brown tweeted out, imagine conforming to a system giving it 100% deceit. them treat me like this is unfairly. Making money off my sweating blood. Fuck the NFL. I'll never play in that shit. Treat black people the worst. Clear my name and go fuck yourself. Now, fast forward a couple weeks later.

I apologize, Mr. Kraft. Mr. Kraft, not even Robert. Mr. Kraft, I apologize sincerely to you and your organization. All I wanted to be was an asset to the organization. Sorry for the bad media and the drama. Thank you sincerely, AB. Now, this is after he had to.

a meeting with the NFL. He had a meeting with the league, was it this week or last week? He had a meeting about the sexual assault allegations, I believe it was. Okay. So don't think for one moment this was not the conversation. You shitted on us. Now go out there publicly motherfucking apologize. Oh, come on, man. So they hit him with a tap dance. Yes, they made him tap dance. That's what I'm saying. They say, hey, go. Listen. Wow. Let's just look at the initial statement. Elite footwork. You can, exactly. You conform. Number one, You said, imagine conforming to a system, giving it 100% to see them treat me like this.

You conformed, right? After saying they treated you unfairly, making money off my sweat and blood, fuck the NFL, until a brother says that and means it, y'all will always be in these positions. And then...

I'll never play in that shit, treat black people the worse. If you saw what happened with Cap this week, they're still doing that. Clear my name and go fuck yourself. Your name still hasn't been cleared, Tonyo. So what the fuck? I don't like seeing us in those positions.

And I wore the Kunti Kinti shirt, which I have. I love that shirt. I wanted to shout out the brand just now, but I forgot the name. But you wore a Kunti Kinti shirt. Kunti Kinti, two things with that. You're not a slave. You know what I'm saying? We got to stop doing that.

We got to stop comparing. Can you give some background to who Kuntikintech is? Kunti is from the movie roots. You know what I mean? And I'm going to get to that, but just overall, you're not a slave. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? Like we have to stop doing that.

We have to stop, you know, coming up with these slave analogies. when it comes to these positions that we're choosing to be in. To be in. It's the same thing. Like, we call everybody a Nazi. We call everybody a slave or relate everything to slavery. It's like anytime it's, I understand we're piggybacking on these horrific things. Yes.

To bring attention to the thing that we're in. But it's really disrespectful to slaves and people who are victims of Nazis. I don't give a fuck about the respectability politics where y'all talk about, oh, he shouldn't wore that. He should have dressed appropriately. Now, fuck the NFL. I'm talking about my ancestors. Yes.

All right, you're not a slave. That's number one. Number two, Kuntikente tried to escape the plantation four times. They cut his fucking foot off so he couldn't run no more. So if you're Colin Kappanick, you shouldn't be trying to go back to the plantation. Yeah, Kuntikente didn't try to work that. Exactly. You shouldn't be trying to go back to the plantation unless you're going back to burn that bitch down.

that's that. Period. You can't call you, you can't, Kuta would have ran. Kuntu would have saw that waiver and ran. Kuntu would have saw that motherfucker take her to leave it and ran. You know what I mean?

He wouldn't even gotten, he wouldn't even want it to go back. No. If you feel it's such a racist and horrible institution, why are you fighting to be part of it? And I've felt that way for the past couple of years.

I've had these conversations with CAP. I've had these conversations with Nessa. I understand the sentiment of, you know, him wanting to play because this is something that he's been wanting to do since he was a little boy. You know, I saw the letter that he wrote in fourth grade that was going to be the Nike ad. You know, it was a letter from his fourth grade self, you know, saying how he wanted to play football. He wanted to play for the Packers. The Niners talking about his size when he was a kid and how big he was going to be when he was going to get older.

I saw all of that. I understand it. I didn't like the ad because once again, I don't know why you're trying to pull it the heartstrings of these NFL motherfuckers. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But, yo, it comes a point in time where you're not that little boy no more.

Yeah. You're not that young man no more who wanted to play football. Your destiny is bigger than football. Yeah. Cap. Right? Like, Cap has a chance right now

to lead in a real way. And I said it on the radio and I said it here on the podcast, I don't care about Cap's NFL career anymore. It was a point where I wanted it to because I know it would make him happy. Right. The reason I don't care anymore is because I will stick to the fact that I think he's bigger than football.

And when it comes to activism, when it comes to him taking a stand against police brutality and the injustices that police are facing it, black people are facing at the hands of the police, I will stand with Cap all day on that. I will even stand with Cap. I was about to lie. My heart said that's not, no, you wouldn't. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I was about to say I would stand with Cap if he boycots the NFL. I would definitely still be sneaking to watch my Cowboys. But publicly, I would.

Publicly, I would say, fuck the NFL with Colin Kaepernick, okay? I was about to die. If he decided to boycott. Because guess what? There's no other option at this point. If I'm cap, I don't give a fuck about the league no more, and he shouldn't. Right. They tried to play him again.

And as a black man, you got to look at that black players in the league, black players watching. If everything that they're saying is true, that happened. week, you have to ask yourself some hard fucking questions. And the question is, do we really need the motherfucking NFL? Yes. Yes. It's good.

I mean, it is good. Like, especially now, if you're a black man, especially now, you are, what we were witnessing the rise of the black quarterback. Four of the MVP candidates are black males. Well, obviously males, right? but they're black guys that are killing it in the league. I mean, what an amazing year for the NFL. Matter of fact, it makes it that much harder for Kaepernick's case

when the NFL is so, like, is so strongly promoting these four black quarterbacks that are absolutely killing it. This should have happened a couple years ago. If it did? If I, like Cap should have really been on some fuck the NFL. You see how they treating me as a black man. They clearly try to blackball me.

you would like that's when Eric Reed can use terms like sellout because he can say yo y'all are really sellouts if y'all allow this to continue to happen to our brother because all it's going to take right now is a few players imagine them guys you just name imagine those guys you just name anybody I think we know who are all talking about Lamar Jackson Lamar Russell Wilson Patrick Mahoney Mahomes what's his name Patrick Mahomes Deshawn Watson y'all Josh Watson yo even Dak Jack Prescott back press guy like imagine I mean Cam Newton's not even This is how great black cornerbacks have gotten in the NFL. Say again?

Quarter. Quarter. I know. Yeah. What did you say? You said corner. I thought I said quarterback. This is how great black quarterbacks have gotten in the NFL is that we're not

even mentioning Cam. Cam has been out this whole season. We don't even know what's going on. We're not even missing them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It is the greatest time in history for black quarterbacks. And Cabernick is out here going, I deserve a job. They're trying to not give me a job.

He can't even use the narrative, the narrative of they don't want black people to be quarterbacks because clearly they do. They're putting all the money into the black quarterbacks. This will never happen. But imagine all five of those black quarterbacks that we're not playing this week. This week, this Sunday coming up, if y'all did what you said, what's true, if what's in this waiver is true and y'all really did this to cap, we're not playing this motherfucking week.

We still don't know if what's in the waiver is wrong to do the cap. That is true, too. Some people might think it's a very fair trade. Yeah, that's true, too. I mean, I saw... I just think there's distrust between cap and the NFL, which is completely reasonable,

so you can't assume the best case scenario and the best case scenario intent. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? So if your cap, you have to go, now they're trying to fuck me. But they might literally just be going,

yo, this is the deal. Here's the thing, shows. Even if they were trying to fuck him. Yeah. You have a lawyer. Well, I'm sure the lawyer told him. The lawyer was like, listen, this will remove your right to sue

after the fact. Once you sign this, yeah, you can have this. And you amend. it. I'm sure they tried to push back. You redline, that's just the fuck up. I'm sure they tried to push back. But you don't send it back on a Saturday at 12.0.3 p.m. when you work out of that day. I'll be honest with you. My suspicion is Cap doesn't want to play. I don't think he wants to play. I think if he wanted to play football, there are other options for him. I'm sure he could have played in Canada in a hard beat. I don't think he wants to play football. And I think that that's fine because he's, you know, obviously doing way more for his community outside of football. But if he really,

wanted to play if he truly loved football and wanted to play football, I think that he would have taken advantage of this opportunity, no matter how fucked up it seemed like it was from the NFL. I'm not going to go so far. I bet you if a team offered him a spot. I bet you if a team offered him a roster spot. And if I was Roger Goodell, and if I would talk to every single team in the league, I'd be like, please do me this favor.

Please offer him a roster spot. I guarantee he won't take it. I'm not going to go so far as to say, Cap doesn't want to play. But if he doesn't want to play, and that's what I thought Saturday. If he does want to play, he's got a very strange way of showing it.

That's what I thought Saturday. Right. But after getting more of this information, which I still don't know if the information is real because I've seen so many different shit. I've seen a waiver that Cap signed in 2011. That waiver doesn't look too much different

from the one that he signed in 2017. But as I was telling people, even if that language was in the contract in 2011, it's a different ball game now. Cap has already sued him once. and he may have to sue them again. I wouldn't give away that right if I was cap either. Well, if you already sued once and then you got a settlement, right,

isn't that what a settlement is for? That's the NFL's fault, though. The NFL should have made it. Maybe the NFL should have cut him a big enough check to where, hey, you good, right? You can't just give him back pay for the past couple years? You know what I'm saying? They should have cut him a check to where they made it to where we're done here.

I thought that's what it was. Nah, no, no, he just got paid for the past, you got back pay for the two years that he missed. and because I mean it's wrongful it's wrongful it's employment discrimination so

they settled a contract they basically settled a lawsuit on employment discrimination yes right meaning he accepted an amount of money yes to no longer sue them

no for employment discrimination I don't think he ever said that he would no longer sue them I'm confused. I'm going to be honest with you. I don't want to misconstrue that. Yeah, yeah.

Because I can see people that know the story better than me yelling at the podcast right now. I don't know. I'm truly just trying to understand. From what I knew he sued for back pay. And okay, let's say hypothetically. And again, neither of us know. And I'm truly just trying to understand here. But you sue for back pay.

The NFL goes, listen, we're not going to admit that we didn't. We kept you out the league. But we're going to pay you for back pay. He accepts the money for back pay. pay. Now you can no longer sue, in my opinion, now you can no longer sue for not being allowed to play because we already handled that and you accepted the money. Well, that's the NFL's fault. NFL didn't put that in the fine print clearly. Sure. You know what I'm saying? Hey, hey, sure, and that's bad, bad job by that. And again, we could be messing this whole thing up. But it's also,

wait, you're going to sue us again for the same thing we paid you for? Hey, seems like a little... If I'm Colin Kaepernick, yeah. Go ahead, Alex. So I really think this was his way of speaking out because when he took the settlement, he had to do the NDA. Hold on a second. We got to turn on his mic. The mic. Go. So when he took the settlement, he had to do the NDA so he couldn't speak about it.

And the fact, I was suspicious that the NFL settled because they'll never settle. They have so much money they could have just kept going until he was bankrupt. So I think there was really something in that case. And so this was his way of bawling out. Everybody sees it. if no team picks him up, that's like proof for everyone that he's, they colluded to keep him out the league. I really think this was just his way of being able to speak without speaking.

Alex, I don't think you're wrong, but my thing is this, I wouldn't be signing none of that shit. If there's something in the collusion case that exposes the NFL, then expose the fucking NFL, you can't love playing football that much. Hold on. He can't say. Hold on. Hold on one second.

Let me just say. But you don't got to go through with the case. Don't take the settlement. Find out what's in the, you know what I'm saying? Don't take the settlement. Let's just blow the NFL up. Let's just put like this. Al, let's say I stop you from coming on the road with me, filming the shows, et cetera.

But I also stop you from filming anybody else's shows. I don't admit it, but I'm doing that. You sue me. I go, listen, I'm not going to let this go to trial because I did some fucked up shit. But fine, here's the money for all the times that you should have been able to come on the road and film with me. You agree to take the money, it's over. Then two months later, you sue me for not taking you on the road. I'm like, motherfucker, we just settled this.

I just paid you millions of dollars. Why are you fucking suing me? Yeah, but that's like if you said, I can't go on the road because I'm not good enough to be on the road. So it's like you're making a lie like, oh, nobody's keeping you out of the league. We just don't want your talent.

And so if you told me, hey, I'm not good. And then I fucking make a movie after and show the world I'm amazing. That's what I think he wanted to project to the world. Show him how good he is. But he shouldn't have signed a settle. It's some bitch-ass shit, to be honest with you, because you just got the money. The NFL could have bankrupt you up, bro.

That's a fact, Ness is going to swing on you. I'm talking some bitch-ass shit. Listen, what I'm saying is this. That's going to swing on you. It is what it is. O'Clin. It is what it is. The town, baby.

And again, I could be completely understanding this entirely wrong. 100% wrong, okay? I feel like I've been very vocally supportive of cap on the podcast, okay? but if you accept the money for the lawsuit and still want to retain the rights to sue for the same thing you accept the money from, that shouldn't be the thing that stops you from going to the audition, whatever the fuck, try out.

You already... If your ability to sue for the thing you already got paid for is the thing that stops you from trying out, you don't want to try out. Why would you... If your ability for the... Right? If your ability to sue...

And again, we could be wrong. about this, but if you're a billy to sue for the same thing that you already got paid for after suing is what you don't like about the contract? And that stopped you from trying out? You don't really want to try out, dog, because you already got paid for that. They're not going to pay you again. I think that's his insurance policy. Like, I would not relinquish my right to sue the NFL if I was Colin Kaepernick under any

circumstance. But you already sued and agreed to take the money. And I might have to get you all again. Yeah. I don't even know if there's legal precedent for that. I might have to get you all again. He only got paid for back pay. He got paid back pay.

So if you keep me out another two years when I'm a free agent for no reason, y'all see I can play, y'all see I can ball, y'all see how I'm in shape, I want a motherfucking play, and you still keeping me out the league? All right, let me hit y'all up again. I'm going to stay in y'all motherfucking faces.

I'm going to stay up under your skin. But my thing is this. That's corny, bro. It comes a point in time. That's corny. You accept the money, bro? Like, I'm sorry, dude. You accept the money, bro?

money comes with a cost. A settlement comes with a cost. You got to settle. That's why it's called a settlement. It's not called here's whatever you want. It's called a settlement. Your wife goes, I want half, right? Yeah.

You go, you get a quarter. Okay, we settle at a quarter. That's a settlement. After your wife gets a quarter, she comes to you and goes, I want the other quarter. You'd be like, if you don't get the fuck out of it. But you got to negotiate that, though.

He did. No. They negotiated back pay for Colin Kaepernick. Right. And they clearly didn't think about what to do moving forward. because they can't say, look, we're going to pay him in the future. We're going to pay him in the future because we really are trying to keep him out of the league. They can't say that.

So I can't pay you for the next five, ten years because that shows, look, we're really just paying you to fucking go away. That's a good point. You know what I'm saying? So being there, I can't pay you to say, hey, we really want you to go away. I'm just going to give you this back pay. So the NFL is so fucking stupid. I cannot, I can, that NFL law team could be quite possibly.

The stupidest group of lawyers that are connected to billionaires that I've ever seen in my entire life. Why the fuck did you not see this as a possibility? Why even settle something that you know can open right back up the second he walks out of there? And you know what?

Kudos to Colin's team for getting the NFL to pay him for something they're going to get him for something they're going to get him pay it again. Colin's team might be the most brilliant lawyers who outsmarted these NFL people, the NFL law team, or whatever the fuck it's called.

This is why the brilliant idiots is one of the best shows going today. because in the span of 45 seconds Andrew went from saying fuck that shit bitch ass n-niggas corny to oh I didn't say the N-word to oh that was brilliant I will react to what I understand

yes yes yes yes yes yes yes I didn't realize that Collins team is setting up the NFL the whole time yeah in a way yeah I just I thought the settlement was you're not allowed to sue us anymore after this that's why I thought that's why we're paying you no no no no no no

Well, why the fuck would they agree to that? That is the stupidest agreement in the history of law. Because I'm paying you for back pay. If I give you more money than just the back pay, then I'm telling you we don't want, imagine I give you $50 million and I say, okay, you got to sign this, but you're never playing in the league again. You know what I'm saying? Like you relinquish your rights to play in the NFL, whatever.

The NFL can never say that. They can never do that because that proves we don't want you in the league. So the only thing we can do is pay you for the back. pay. But you can put something in that settlement that says, hey, you can no longer sue us after we pay. You can no longer sue us in the future for job discrimination or blah.

But it wasn't, I think it was collusion. Or collusion, whatever it is. You can no longer, you could put that, you could put whatever you want in a contract. Clearly, right? But they did not put that in there. Or maybe Collins lawyers were smart enough to say, now you can't include that. I mean, I just cannot believe the NFL would sign this. The NFL must be so

monumentally fucked and Colin must have such an incredibly strong case. that they were willing to just do the back pay to get this, get this, get this court case out of here. Maybe like, hey, listen, we'll give you the back pay just to shut this thing down. There's too much positive momentum building for his side in this, let's just shut this thing down.

Here's the money. We know we're going to have to deal with it again in the future. Well, let's talk. That's my point, too. It got to come to a point where somebody has to say, fuck the NFL and mean it. And I don't think that there's nobody

who can say fuck the NFL. and really mean it more than Colin Kavanaugh and Eric Reid because y'all got all the information. Y'all know what's in that motherfucking collusion case. So what is your theory on Eric Reid still playing? I don't know. I really don't. I mean, maybe I'm not understanding this.

You got to give a bone, right? If I'm the NFL, all right, at least make sure Eric Reed is in the league. You know what I'm saying? Because a lot of people that nail, make sure Kenny Steele is in the league. Dwayne Brown's great offensive linemen, he's going to be in the league. You know what I'm saying? Like make sure that you. These brothers stay in the league so it really doesn't look like we're colluding against everybody who took a knee.

But that symbol, the guy with the Afro who they walk around with the t-shirts on, when he's on people's t-shirts, that's it? The one they're trying to make a martyr? Yeah, we got to make sure he stays away. What is your theory about those players that say that the NFL is just like a racist, horrible place, yet still choose to make a living there? I don't, I don't. It literally makes my skin crawl. when I see Eric Reed say that. And I understand everybody got to eat, everybody make their money,

but I can only speak from my perspective. I cannot see myself working at a place, talking shit about that place, saying how horrible they treat my people will continue in the work there. It is odd, right? I'm just talking about me. Leonard Lyme and Kelvi-Rae on the dirt road

in Mounts, County, South Carolina grew up in a single-wide trailer, who's used to nothing. And you know what I'm saying? And even with three daughters, By the way, I put myself in a position where if something like that happens at one of my corporate, I only got one corporate check, to be honest with you. And that's eye heart. You know what I'm saying?

Everything else is based off things that I built for myself, podcast, the book publishers. Like, that's, that all, I got real estate, like all that revenue coming in. But I did, I positioned myself like that. Yeah. To never have to be in that position to where I'm sitting at a place, talking shit about a place, and have to be there. You understand what I'm saying? And conforming to the rules, right? Conforming, you can't.

Is he still taking a knee? I think he is taking a knee. But Eric, no, Eric definitely is. You're sure? He doesn't stay in the locker room now? No, no, no. I've seen Eric on the side of the season. But that's my thing.

Conforming, what did Antonio Brown say? Imagine conforming to a system. Giving it 100% to see him treat me like this is unfairly. I cannot sit in a situation and continue to conform. Now let's play devil's advocate. Here. It is easy. for me probably is a white guy to go, well, I wouldn't do that because maybe there's a bunch of other

industries that I could operate in, right, that wouldn't be oppressive, right? Now, Eric Reed might be going, okay, maybe I don't work in the NFL. Is the NFL the NFL the only racist organization out there? No, there's organizations with racists in it. Chances are, me getting a job at one of these places. There's going to be somebody racist. Can I never work in an environment that has any racist in it? When when am I allowed to make a living? It's not like there's a black-owned football. Who says it got to be football organization? Football, what is it called?

League, yes. It's not like there's a black-owned football league where he can go and he can feel safe working in that environment. So maybe he's like, no matter where I work, there probably are going to be, at bare minimum, some weird racial implications in the hiring, right, or the business practice, no matter where. I might as well make the most amount of money

that I can possibly make and affect my community financially by working in this racist one. Maybe he's thinking about it. I'm not mad at that. You can be robbing hood. You can rob from the rich and give back to the poor.

You know what I'm saying? You can do that. I'm not even mad at, you know, playing your position until you're in a position and not have to play that position no more. If I'm Eric Reed and I'm sitting there and I'm collecting my checks from the NFL

while talking shit, cool. You know what I mean? Because when I retire, I know I didn't stack up these millions. and now I can really go back and affect my community, you know what I mean? But I just, when I see all of these brothers quoting Malcolm X, you see me. I keep the honorable Elijah Muhammad around my neck.

I got a Malcolm X piece too, salute to Mr. Flawless, Greg Union, you know what I mean? But, and I got Nipsey Husson. But when I see all of these brothers quoting Malcolm X, it's like, yo, do for self, build your own. That don't necessarily have to be a league. It would be great one day if we did have a black, you know, football league. You know what I mean? That shit would be slapping. You know what I mean?

It would struggle for the first few years. But eventually we get that money. You know what I mean? But in the meantime, that shit don't mean just that. Yo, take that money that you're making and put it into other things to where you don't have to be in a position to be apologizing to know rob a motherfucking craft or are flying down to Atlanta to at the last minute go do a workout someplace else. Like, I don't want to see that from my brothers. How will history look back at this? Like, it is very much.

very clear how we've looked back at, you know, social justice and activism and history, right? You know, you see Rosa Parks, I'm, I want to sit in this part of the bus, right? They don't want me sitting this part of the bus. Well, I'm not getting up. I'm sitting this part of the bus, right? It would be weird if Rosa Parks was like, yo, the bus sucks, but also worked driving the bus. And kept working driving the bus, right? Imagine if during that 360-plus days of the Montgomery bus boycott,

When you was, you know, protesting the bus and boycotting the bus, you just saw Rosa in the window riding by on the bus. Driving it. Not even riding it. What if she was driving the bus? You'd be like, what the fuck are we protesting out here? Right? It'd be like she's going to get her bus license.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Like she's doing everything she possibly can to be a bus driver while protesting. It would, what I'm trying to understand is like, how will history look back at this protest compared to other ones? I think it will look back unfavorably. I think it will look back like, why the hell were these guys telling us

how awful the NFL is while continuing to work at the NFL and trying out to be in the NFL? It will be arguably one of the most confusing protests in history. It comes back to what I said earlier. Eventually, one of these brothers has to say, fuck the NFL and really mean it. And until somebody says that

they're going to continue to find themselves in the positions that the good brother Colin Kaepernick is in and Antonio Brown is in. Simple as that. Like somebody has to say, fuck the NFL and meaning. And there's nobody in a better position to say fuck the NFL right now than Cap.

Because if everything that, you know, if everything is true that they said is true that happened this week from the wave of being into the contract, you know, that made him relinquish his rights to the NFL telling him to take it or leave it. Yo, at some point you got to tell these motherfuckers, leave it, Cap.

Simple as that. Like, these mixed messages got to stop being sent. You know what I mean? Because I go back to... I don't know what to do. And this is... We don't know what to do. And this is why I say, for me, as a man,

if Colin Kaepernick called me tomorrow and say, Shaw, man, I want you to come do my know-your-rights camp, I'm there. If Colin Kaepernick wants me to stand with him on the front lines of any type of activism, you know, protesting against the injustice that black and brown people face at the hands of the police, I am there.

But when it comes to the NFL, and his NFL aspirations, I simply do not care. And the reason I do not care is because what he protested for initially never had anything to do with him not having a job. What he protested for initially was the police brutality that black and brown people were facing. I stand with you on that Colin Kaepernick all day fucking long. The past couple years, the protest has turned away from the police brutality

and this went to Cap doesn't have a job and that's the injustice. Has it become selfish? Selfish is an interesting word. I don't think Colin Kaepernick is selfish. I wouldn't use that word for cap. But I would say... I mean, the most selfless, right? The guy's giving up millions of dollars.

He's sacrificed so much. Yeah, I think that when your Nike campaign is believing everything, even if it means sacrificing everything, you have to really feel that in your heart. And you have to really know that you possibly could be giving up everything. And I think that a lot of times we say things like that in this generation, but we don't really mean it. Our ancestors really gave up everything.

Cap gave up a job. Cap gave up a job. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And by the way, he's still going to get rewarded handsomely. You know, like I said, he got the Nike deal. He got the book deal. You know, he got the TV show with Ava.

He got things going on. You know what I'm saying? He's going to be fine. So I wouldn't call him selfish. What I would say is it comes a point in time when you do. just have to embrace that model. And instead of saying everything, just say, I gave up my job. And I think when you do that, you'll realize that this whole thing is bigger than you.

Much bigger. I've been trying to like compare it to other things in my head, right, throughout history. And, you know, we always bring up Ali when we're talking about Cap. And Ali had his title stripped, right? when he refused to join the army and fight in a war that he didn't think was just and after he was suspended, I guess, for three years it was? Three years, yeah.

Three years. He came back and fought. Because they gave him his license back. He reinstated his license back and I think it was New York. Okay. No, it wasn't New York at first. It was someplace else at first. And then New York finally gave him his boxing license back.

Now, so he did come back and fight, right? He didn't go, well, fuck boxing. Boxing's clearly colluding to keep me out. I mean, they did it openly. They were like, you can't fight. He came back and he fought. To me, I can tell you the primary difference of what I've seen over the past.

I'm just trying to compare things. Like, how are we going to look at this in history? When boxing took away Ali's license, Ali hit rock bottom. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, he hit rock bottom. He was broke.

Other fighters were giving them money and shit like that, which is something that we do have to be prepared to do for our people. That's a fact. I don't give a fuck. When you see people make these kind of stands, you know what I mean? even though I'm not going to ever compare, you know, the NFL blackballing somebody to, you know, him refusing to go fight in the Vietnam War because he felt like, why would I go fight for this

country that keeps suppressing us, right? But Ali, for those three years, stood on the front lines of racial injustice in a real way. His whole shit was about how the Vietnam War was wrong, how racial injustice that America is facing is wrong. He was rolling with the nation of Islam. He was with Malcolm Max. He was with the honor bro, Elijah Muhammad. like Muhammad Ali was really an activist.

Like really, like really, really an activist on the front lines. So when it came time for, you know, the boxing license to come back three years later, yeah, I'm going to go back and I'm going to go do what I love to do. I put that work in as an activist

and still put it in as a boxer. And that's what made his legend even bigger. Like I think people feel like Muhammad Ali was doing both at the same time. You know what I? I mean. He never sacrificed the activism. Never sacrificed the activism.

And you're saying by being part of this oppressive, ah, Ali made them change. Ali made them go, hey, I'm not going to do anything different and you're going to bend to my whim. And it can be said that maybe the people that are kneeling, et cetera, but yet still taking a check from the NFL are not bending the NFL. they're, matter of fact, bending to the NFL. That's why I wasn't tripping about the NFL agreeing to do this work out, I agreeing to bring Cap back into the league. Right. Because it's the same thing with the Vietnam War.

There was a change of heart. When Ali and Martin Luther King Jr., and all those brothers first spoke out about the Vietnam War, people thought they were being unpatriotic, and he was draft dodging and all this other shit. But then a few years later, people realized that Vietnam War was fucked up. The Vietnam War was really bad. Charlemann, everything's starting to fucking make sense to me now.

cap even if thank you dear even if he doesn't want to play cap has to at least pretend like he wants to play to support the collusion narrative if he says you know what i don't really want to play football anymore it was a thing it was a thing but you know what the nfl soured my taste on it i don't want to be in the nfl because it's a racist organization if they say if he says that that's the nfl's dream They're like, oh, he doesn't want to be here anymore. Done, we're out of here. He has to pretend like he wants to play. I think he wants to play, though.

Let's say he does. Let's say he does. I like you. I like your. If he does or he doesn't, he has to put it out there like he wants to because the second he doesn't want to, the NFL's not colluding. You don't want to play. That's why you're not being hired.

You have to say, I want to play. I've been ready for three years. Hey, look at these cameras. Why don't I show up to Falcon Stadium? Right? Walk in the building. Yes. and when they come to you and be like,

yo, you can't try out until you do this waiver. Staying there. And then when the media comes over, yo, my lawyer, tell them why we're not working out. Tell them why we're not working out. There's a waiver right here where they're trying to get me to sign my rights away that I can never sue them

and collude against them and suit them for collusion ever again. Therefore, this whole shit is a dog and pony show. You could go. That shit in Falcon Stadium. He could say, this organization, the NFL has been colluding for the last three years

to keep me out of the league. Do you think for a second they won't edit the worst throws that I make in this entire trial? Put them in one video and use that as a justification why no team should pick me up and why no team will should pick me up? You're out of your mind if I'm going to sign something that takes away my one bargaining chip with the NFL.

My ability to sue them for keeping me out of the league. That's how you do it. That would be the perfect conclusion. And if the NFL doesn't allow you to have cameras in, go live on IG, baby. Right there. Right there. I'm here at Falcon Stadium.

I showed up, well, we won't be doing the work out today because they're this wavering this motherfucking contract where they're trying to get me to sign my motherfucking rights away. So I can't never sue them for collusion ever again. This whole shit is a dog and pony show. This whole shit was a Trojan horse to try to jam me to fuck up. If that's what's really in the waiver.

Right. You know what I'm saying? If that's what's really in the waiver, that's how you handle that. Period. But I'll put a button on this by saying, I really truly don't care if Colin Kaepernick plays in the NFL ever again

because I believe that that good brother is bigger than football and I believe he stands for so much more and I believe that if the NFL is colluding against that man if the NFL is treating black people bad like Antonio Brown says it comes a point in time when somebody has to say fuck it and really truly mean it. Like that's how you help. That's even how you help Jay-Z, right?

Because Jay-Z's in there and he's trying to help the brothers that's in the, league. He's trying to help the players that's in the league. Somebody got to be Martin Luther King, Jr. Somebody got to be the fucking Malcolm X and Stokey Carl Michael and all of these guys that's on the outside, raising hell. So you let the brothers and sisters boycott the league and say they stand in with Cap and you have some players in the league start being like, man, fuck that.

The way y'all doing Cap is wrong. We're not playing this week. Meanwhile, Lyndon B. Johnson, aka Roger Goodell and these owners, got to pick up the phone and say, Jay, what the fuck is going on? And Jay can do exactly what Martin Luther King? King Jr. was doing. Well, this is what they want. Yeah.

That's how to fuck the shit used to go. I got to be an inside, outside game, baby. Yeah. That's it. Because there's certain things that someone on the inside cannot say and do, but those people on the outside can. Simple as that. Operators.

You need operators. Simple as that. And by the way, Malcolm and Martin didn't see eye to eye. They didn't get along. Malcolm was always calling Martin Luther King Jr. And Uncle Tom and this and that. But Martin Luther King Jr. was on the inside, letting them raise hell on the outside.

And if you go watch that King in the wheel, in this documentary, Linda B. Johnson used to always have to call Martin Luther King Jr. See what the fuck was going. He's like, I gave them civil rights and I gave them the voting rights. Like, what more do they want? We want that chat. You know what I'm saying?

But the moral of the story is Martin was on the motherfucking inside, getting shit done. And the way people were raising hell on the outside was making it easier for him to get those things fucking done. That's it. So, once again, somebody has to say, fuck the NFL and mean it. Nobody better to do that than Colin.

Cap and Nick. But if he says it and continues to try to play and be a part of it, and if he says it, he can't get any more money out of them. No. They want, the NFL wants him to say fuck the NFL. As they should. Because the second he says fuck the NFL,

they don't got to worry about it. There's no more collusion. They can start saying this, well, we offer them this and we offered him that. Yad yada yada yada. So now Kapp is stuck between a rock and a hard place, right? Not really. Well, in a way, right? It's, and let's move on. But he's essentially stuck between

he's stuck between the know your rights campaign and being an activist Oh, he's stuck between being an athlete and activist. Right, but he's so that's what's incredibly important. And he's and he's stuck between

his situation with the NFL, which he literally can't stop wanting to play for the NFL because then the NFL gets what they want. So it's a, but then by wanting to play for the NFL, he has to play for the exact oppressor he's trying to fight against. It's a really tricky situation. It's really not if you just say, fuck the league. The second he says fuck the league.

So what? Why would you want to? Why? We just go back to what we said earlier. That's what the money is. He can make money. He can sue him and make money. And that's going to make money being cap.

At this point, Colin Kaepernick can make money being cap. Right. You think the trap toupee booming now, wait until they come out with that Colin Kaepernick Nike edition, that throw. All right? You think Tori Lane's and envying all of them out there with their fresh shit now. When they come out with that Colin Kaepernick Nike edition,

and you can just scrap that. that Afro on for a ball man. Shit. And get it corn roll when you want? Shit. But moral of the story is, yeah, man. Salute to Colin Kaepernick,

salute to Nessa. Love y'all. And everything that went down this week, if they say that it's true, yeah, somebody has to say fuck the NFL and really, truly meaning it. Because I ain't going to front. I go through mad emotions with this shit.

I go through emotions, but I'd be like, what the fuck, Cap, stop that clown shit. You know what I mean? And then I go through emotions, well, I'm like, well, if that's, if that's, the waiver happened, then yeah, it's true. But my biggest thing is, fuck working for your oppressive.

Right. If you're going to wear the Kuntikintay shirt, run! Run! And the only time you should be going back to the plantation is to burn that motherfucker down. Yeah. That's it. And I got to go pee. Well, I'll pay some bills.

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Okay. Back to the show? We back. What else you want to talk about, man? Did you see that whole situation? with Amanda Seals and Sean King? That was... Tell me.

Over the Rodney Reed thing? Tell me what's going on. That's why I didn't get into the Rodney Reed thing, but... I didn't get into the Rodney Reed thing just because I didn't know what the fuck was... I didn't see... I didn't get into the Rodney Reed thing just because I didn't know what the fuck was going on. This is what happens, okay. This is what I've noticed what always happens, right?

Is with these stories is people care less about the person than they do about the issue at hand, right? And that's why the stories tug at a heart. strings. Everybody, at least everybody black, has known a black person has probably been lied on by a white woman in regard to rape. Well, that's really specific. I can't say I know that, but has been treated unfairly by the justice system. And that has to say that.

By the way, that has historical context. Sure, sure, of course. This is Emmettailed. Yeah, exactly. But we all know a black dude that's been pulled over for no reason. Shit, Alex and I are on a way back home from, uh, from the shows in Boston, you know, Alex has got a Tesla. The guy pulls us over, and there's a car going faster than us in front of us that we're trailing,

and the guy pulls us over literally just to ask questions about the Tesla. It doesn't even give Alex a ticket. But I was like, what do you think that was about? He said, hey, he saw a black guy driving a Tesla. No, he saw a black guy not driving a Tesla. He's like, how the fuck this nigga is sleeping by his goddamn self? Let me pull. Let me see the fuck.

I saw the video. Maybe it's a good thing we got pulled over. Exactly. I thought a fucking. We were sleeping while driving a Tesla. I pulled you over, too. What the fuck are you doing? Anyway, I guess...

We were driving back from Boston. They're not used to that shit. In the middle of them back road that time of night. We used to black people sleeping, but not driving there. Driving and sleeping? What the fuck is going on? So, so basically what happened was, I think a lot of people go, okay, injustice, right here, this is the, you know, the court system, not treating black people fairly. This resonates with me.

Let's take interest in this case. We're not even going to look at the case at all to see if there's any. kind of nefarious behavior with this guy because everything else adds up to our lives and the issues that affect us. It's another element too. Boom, go. Definitely.

You know what I mean? Some people don't believe in the death penalty. You know, so anytime that there's an innocent person on death row, they will attach themselves to that story and that situation just because they don't believe in the death penalty. Right. It's a larger political agenda. Right.

Yes. Right. So anytime, you know, these kind of larger political agendas get, like, tied into shit, it's very easy to, like, draw up a storm of people, especially angry people online, they feel a certain way about it. Every time a baker doesn't want to bake a cake for a gay couple, all the sudden you have all like the right wing,

like super religious folks going, well, they have freedom of expression and not bake their cakes, then you have the left wing people going, well, we shouldn't be discriminated against, it happens every single time. So I don't get very invested in the headline because I know some other shit's going to come out a week later. And it seems like that's what came out with the Rodney-Reen thing.

Well, no, not even a week later. I didn't know anything about Rodney Reed. On Saturday, a few sisters I know started hitting me up, and they just was asking me what I know about the Rodney Reed case. And I said, well, I don't know anything. I just know what I'm seeing in that, you know, he seems to be an innocent man on death row. I don't really have an opinion about the death penalty one way or the other.

But of course, if this is an innocent man on death row, you know, then he shouldn't. A man innocent of the crime he's accused of. Yeah, yeah. But I didn't know that. In my mind, I thought, he was a brother who got accused of raping this white woman that he was in a consensual relationship with and he's been on death for all of this time for it.

That's what I thought. I didn't know anything else about Rodney Reed. But then I started getting all of these, these, these, they sent me a news report from, I think it was a K-B-U-E in Texas. They sent me a news report that came out a week before. And then they sent me stuff like, you know, the young woman's sister saying it was a headline that said with no doubt Rodney Reed murdered my sister.

but they just sent me sent me wrecked like if you read any of these articles or you watch that news report they talk about his alleged history and I say alleged, his alleged history

of violence against women. Like he just has a lengthy criminal file full of accusations of sexual assault. Like it was an insult assault on it. I'm reading this verbatim

is from crimeonline.com including assaults on a 12 year old girl his disabled girlfriend, a woman named Caroline Ravius, and the mother of his children, Lucy Epper. There's a lot. It's a lot.

All I'm saying, oh. Which nobody looks into because they don't really care about Rodney, right? What they care about is the issue at hand. And Rodney just fits the bill right now. And whoever fits the bill, we fake care about. But we don't really care about these people. And that's how Rodney's representative, get to manipulate the public through social media

because they play on the heartstrings of these issues that are already exist inside you. And listen. It's just politics. Amanda, Amanda Seals, y'all know I love Amanda. That's family. People swear I'm so biased towards Amanda. I can only be objective.

Amanda was wrong when she said that Rodney Reed was arrested and charged for rape and murder in Wichita Falls. There was no murder. But he was charged. charged with rape. That's when he was in high school, right? When he was in high school, he was charged with the rape of this young lady. And he said, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they picked him up, they asked him, did he know the young lady? He said no. And then they said, well, your DNA is all over her. And Rodney goes, well, we did have sex, according to the court

documents. Yeah. We did have sex, but she wanted it. Rodney was acquitted four years later of this case, right? Yeah. Now, the reason Amanda could get that story confused is because that's exactly what, you know, was said in the case of, what's her name, Stacey Stites, I think her name is. Yeah. That's what happened in that case. In that case, young lady was found, hey, do you know this woman? No, I don't know this woman. Well, your DNA was found in her vagina.

Oh, yeah, we used to have a secret consensual relationship. So it wouldn't be kind of too hard to get those stories mixed up, especially when there's, like, four other stories as well. Right. You got the story of the 12-year-old girl. And by the way, I don't know if any of these stuff is true. The only thing I'm doing is reading this to get to the larger point. It says that Reed had raped his intellectually disabled girlfriend. How do you even have an intellectually disabled girlfriend?

I have no idea. But it's a, it's a given the similarities between these crimes, law enforcement inquired with DPS. Not a crime? Can you just date intellectually disabled people? I don't know, man. There's got to be some rules against that. They said they inquired if they had Reed's DNA profile on file. They did because Reed had raped his intellectually disabled girlfriend.

friend Reed's DNA profile was compared to the foreign DNA inside and on Stites body. The two were consistent. Next was the 12-year-old girl who was home alone, having fallen asleep on the couch after watching TV. When she woke up, someone began pushing her face into the couch and had blindfolded her and gagged her. I'm not going to read everything that happened, but basically the foreign DNA from this young lady's rape kit was compared to Reed. Reed was not excluded, and only one in 5.5 billion people would have I would have the same foreign DNA profile from AW's Rape Kit.

Point being. Hold on. There was another one. There was another case where and this young lady picked Rodney Reed out of a lineup. There's a bunch. She said she gave Rodney Reed a ride and Rodney Reed got in the car. Rodney Reed tried to get her to take her down the dirt road. She said, Rodney, when she wouldn't go, Rodney grabbed her head, slammed her head into the steering wheel.

She asked Rodney what he wanted. Rodney said a blowjob. She said, you're going to have to kill me. Rodney said, I guess you're about to die. They fought a little bit. She got away, went to the police, ended up picking Rodney Reed out of the lineup. The moral of the story is this. If somebody has this kind of history,

it should be made known to the public, especially if you want people to rally around this person because they're on trial or about to get the death penalty for a sexual assault case in murder. Like, because I believe that if more people would have known that he had this kind of, of history, they wouldn't have been so quick to repost and rally around this man on social media. They wouldn't at all.

I mean. And that was Amanda's larger point. That's all she was saying. Amanda was one of the people that posted initially. She did. Exactly. And that's why she said what she wished she would have known before she got involved in the Rodney Reed case. Google.

That too, my brother. Don't go out here and be like, I wish we would have known. Don't wish. Do. I'm with you. It's like so easy. Because here's the thing, you're not a brilliant idiot. you choose to be one of these people

that's like an activist and advocating on behalf of people and go once you put that cape on once you put that cape on that's what people see you as but you know what there's a responsibility for that cape we don't have but by the way

I don't wear a cape you don't wear a cape we're just out here talking shit on brilliant is different but we still can't be irresponsible yo that's why I would I when I talk about the Rodneyoree case I say go look at the KVUE report

I say go look up articles yourself I cited an article I think it was crimeonline.com that I cited, they did an interview with his sister. I want y'all to go to see information for yourself. Because I don't know if none of this shit is true or not. All I'm simply saying is, you got to be the most unluckiest black man in America to have six rape cases from six different white women.

Or the luckiest to get away. Shut the fuck up. He got away with all of them. He got away. He didn't even go. This is the final one? The fuck's wrong with this guy. But the final one, he got away with every single one.

And the final one is where he's, and even now after the final one, you still got people going, he's innocent? Like, you're the luckiest. It was wild. Even after the so-called final one, when they, I think when they, he had like six months later, he was the suspect in another one.

Yo, there's some wild shit going on here. Here's the tricky thing also, which is if he didn't murder this woman, right? He shouldn't get the death penalty. He shouldn't get the death penalty. Now, what we do is something that has been used against black people in trials all the time,

which is, hey, look at your past, right? What is happening? Look at your past. Look how messed up his past is. He must have done this other thing he's accused of, right? Which I also disagree with Amanda about. Because don't go out here and say, hey, maybe he did do it because he did all these things in the past.

Because that's what white people have been doing it to put black people in jail for years. I know this is one of those times where people are going to say, I'm defending Amanda. If you look at the case of Rodney Reed and the young lady, the reason that they say he's not getting a death penalty is because of fuck up. on the prosecutorial side. The evidence is pretty much there. They found his semen in her vagina.

But they have a consensual relationship. They find a semen in her vagina, her anus, and on her breasts. You know there's another aspect to this case where like the girl's husband is a cop. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The cop, yeah, yeah. And he went to jail for 10 years

for some type of sexual assault charge and something or some shit like that. Yeah. It's two things in this case. Uh. No, I'm serious. Like, this is a lot. Bro, like, there's two things in this case, bro.

Like, it's a lot, like, first of all, Rodney Reed gotta be the most unlucky as black man on the face of the earth. Yeah. That's number one. Yeah. Number two, all Kelly and Bill Cosby got to be sitting around somewhere, like,

so y'all not believe in multiple accusers no more? Like, niggas passed on me and shit no more? Like, what the fuck? Like, and this DNA evidence linked into these people that I just had hearsay-she-say and a tape and some songs. I'm just, whatever. I'm just saying. The question is, do we use people's past against them or do we not, right?

Because here's a- Not in the court of law? Well, what do we do it all the time? Well, yeah, you do do it because you- Think about it. Because if there's a girl accusing someone of rape, right, what is the first thing the defense does? Well, this girl did some slutty things over here,

and this girl did some slay. What is the first thing we say about Kobe's accuser? What's the first thing we say? Well, you know they said that... She had 400 different types of semen in her pain. They said that on the KVU-E report, which y'all should go why. One thing that stood out to me was when I guess was the prosecution of defense.

Who's defending Rodney Reed? I don't fucking know. But one of them. Defense, defense. They was like, look, her boyfriend was a cop. He went to jail for 10 years for doing something else to another woman. And so Rodney Reed people said, well, y'all can't bring that shit. No, his people say, well, y'all can't bring this shit up if y'all not bringing up Rodney Reed shit.

That's what they say. Reasonable. Yeah. His team said, you can't bring this shit up if y'all not. not bringing up Rodney Reed. Put it this way. This is just the worst case for anybody to try to take a political stance on.

It's a shitty case. You just don't have to care about every single case. Okay? You don't have to make your political stand about every single case. Because let's be honest. None of you really give a fuck about Rodney Reed. Let's really be honest.

You care about the bigger issue at hand. It's the bigger political agenda. Exactly. That's what you care about. And you know what? You should care about that. Because that could affect you. You get arrested.

You get arrested. Taylor. You get arrested, Alex. You should care about what happens. I mean, we've seen it. Alex, go through it in fucking Sweden. The only thing we care about me,

and I know Andrew does too, bro, you got to keep some form of consistency. And it is very inconsistent that I hate when y'all figure out nuance when y'all want to. When you want to! I can't stand that shit. I can't stand because any other time,

y'all are taking shit that don't got nothing to do with nothing to put together and say, look, let's look at this, you did it to me. You grab this audio clip and that audio clip. Yeah. Like, so. And then you almost made it my fault. Yes, exactly.

I want you to keep that same goddamn energy. That's all I'm saying. How do y'all understand nuance in this situation? Because guess what? Rodney Reed probably did not kill

the woman Stacy, whatever. But if he did all that other shit, he should be killed, in my opinion. And how can you not say this guy? You can kill rapists in my opinion. Definitely. Of course, 100%. And in the case of when he got locked up in high school,

he used the same excuse, right? He was like, yo, it was concerned. sensual, right? But he got acquitted. So respect to him on that. But if years later, you got all of these different accusations and you use that same excuse with somebody else, you don't think no one's going to look at you funny? That's all I'm saying. You are. And listen, it is. It's just, so what was the beef between Amanda and then Sean? Well, Sean is, is, Sean, to me, led to charge for Rodney Reed. You know what I'm saying? So I think that whole social media activation that happened was a lot of Sean King. You know, Sean King bought a lot of

of attention to it. Sean King is great at that. He brings a witness to a lot of things. And Amanda just got on Instagram and we don't got it. It was long. Yeah, we don't have to play it. But, oh, okay, we can play it then. He has been IDed by a woman who escaped him. And so you're asking yourselves, well, why wasn't he convicted of those? Well, three of those cases did not go to trial because he had already been convicted of capital punishment. I think it is very important to note, though, that this is somebody who, in two cases, cited that the reason his seaman was found in the body of a person who was raped and killed was because he was having a current relationship with them that unbeknownst to anybody else was going on because that person was a white woman

and he was a black woman. Amanda's got on there and just was basically like, look, if I would have known these things, I don't think I would have rallied around him in that way. And Amanda gave out some wrong information because she said that the guy Rodney Reed had raped and killed someone in Wichita Falls. Sean was like she wasn't killed. She's very much alive and well.

But she was raped. And once again, if you got all of these different accusations and somebody's trying to explain it, I can easily see how Amanda could easily get caught up and say that. Sometimes she gets wrong information, right? Like she thought she was invited to that after party. Oh, shut up. I mean, listen.

She'd be mistaken shit. I'm not on the list. Listen, Sean gave our wrong information too, though. I thought I was on the list. I thought he raped and killed her. You know, potato, potato. Listen, Sean gave out wrong information too, because Sean said that Rodney Reed

has never been arrested or convicted. We've never been convicted, but he's been arrested, right? He's been convicted too. Oh, I didn't know he's convicted. He's on death row now. He's been in jail for 20 years. Oh, I thought this was prior to this. But Sean said he's never been arrested or convicted for a violent crime against the woman before or after this murder.

Sean, he's in jail right now. Oh, yeah, but he's because of this crime. Yes. So before that, he was never convicted for one. I think that's accurate. I don't know. The way he worded it sounded kind of off to me when I heard him say it. But either way, the moral of the story is this.

I mean, Sean's got one agenda. We know that, right? And it's an agenda that has a ton of importance. But you can get things wrong. And he's blind to things that do not support the agenda. So when you go, when Sean is putting something out there, you know exactly who he's supporting, who he's fighting for, and he will give you all the information on the side of who he's fighting for

and none of the information on the opposite side. Some people are saying Sean did. I didn't see it. I got this information for people sending it to me. I asked Sean about it. Sean told me he didn't know what kind of man Rodney Reed

was or is his job is to bring light to this case he feels this man is innocent in this case this man should not be executed for this case I have no problem with that

I don't I have no problem with that but I'm not going to sit out here and try to defend Rodney Reed I don't know him you know what it's like I don't know if he really did these things

this was like you know how they like arrested El Chapo there's probably some like deal that they got him on or some shit like that, right? There might not be enough evidence to convict El Chapo for that single drug deal. But you know he's done a bunch of drug deals. So he's not the person that you launched some campaign

about how Mexican, Mexicans are being targeted as drug dealers when they da da da da, da, right? You just go, all right, this is the one. isn't one we fight for, we're just going to kind of look the other way with this shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's the situation with this. We all were up in arms and everybody was tweeting and fucking Alex signed a petition. Didn't even look into the petition.

You know how many people signed that petition? I didn't sign shit. I didn't sign shit, because I didn't have no information on it. Not saying that I wouldn't have, right, just didn't have any information on it. And I can't just go off, you know, because they come to us all the time. We public figures. Like, yo, can you repost this? Can you repost this?

Can you repost that? If I haven't done no information on it? No. No. I'm not just taking your word for it. I don't care who you are. I got to know what the fuck is going on. And after you tell me what's going on, I am going to go do my own individual research. And guess what?

I still might get it wrong, depending on what sources I go to. You understand what I'm saying? So I don't, listen, I don't have a dog in this fight. All I'm simply saying is the overall, to me, the overall point Amanda was trying to make is do your research. That's what she said. She said it.

She was like, yo, do your research. You know what I'm saying? Go get further information before we just jump on these causes. You know what I mean? I don't think it's a problem with that. And my other aspect is just... It's not a problem with it, but it's just hilarious that, like, she should do it. Like, why am I taking your advice on a thing that you didn't do?

You're right. But she... But, you see, that's another thing we do. She had one part wrong. Literally. Right. One part wrong. She said, rape and kill.

It's like ordering a Big Mac and fries. I forgot to say the fries. If I pull up to the drive-thru and I ask you for a goddamn number one, so I really have to say I need fries. with that. Right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but that's the second time she had one part run.

The first time around she's like, yo, we need to support Rodney Reed and people should be out here looking up for Roddy Reed, this, that the other. You learn from your mistakes. I respect that. Hey, 100% I agree with the sentiment. 100% agree with the sentiment.

You know, it is important that we all do our research if we want to be in those positions, right? Yeah, man, but you know what? I don't care to be in that position. What I like to do is make jokes? You know the crazy part about those positions? What's that?

If you put yourself out there and you're one of those, you know, social justice warriors, activist, whatever, you're going to get it wrong sometimes. You're going to get a Tijuana Bradley, bro. At some point you're going to get her Tijuana Bradley.

Remember Tijuana-Ratley? Now's Reverend Al Shopton. Remember Reverend Al Shopton came to the defense of the young lady who said she got, then she said she got raped by a lacrosse team or some shit like that? Jesse Smalley. Nah, not even Justice Smalley.

I guess maybe Jesse, but, like, Revan I came to the defense of this woman, but it came to find out she was lying. Yeah. Sometimes you're going to get those. You know what I'm saying? And I don't think anybody's lying in this case. I just think that it was some information omitted

because at that point in time, they didn't want to slow up the process because they knew that this man was about to get executed in a couple of weeks and they needed all hands on deck on social media. So they put out the information that was pertinent to this case. You know what? You are right about that.

You are going to get things wrong. Yes. And we can't crucify people. Amanda, Sean, on forgetting things wrong. Especially when you know that, talk about history, right? If the record is right.

That's all I'm saying. If the record is... That's all I'm saying. Yeah, if the record shows that for the most part, they're right and their intentions are good. Sean and Amanda are always trying to be on the right side of history.

Right. You may not always agree with them. You may not always think they're on the right side. But their intent is to be in the right side. So we have to... We always say this on the show. Judge people by their intent, not your interpretation.

So I will give that. I will, I'll concede that. The intent was good. You know, heavy. Did we do postmates? Yeah, I did them both. Heavy. You did honey too?

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I mean, we can run through. I need something light, bro. I thought all those topics were light. Oh, they're so heavy. Those are heavy to you? Oh, God. Come on. It's been a brilliant idiotous thing for five years.

Yeah, but it was just. It's so heavy. Come. So heavy. We can run through some of the tale of topics. Kanye West calls himself the greatest artist

that God has ever created at Joel Olstein's service. I don't have a problem with this. Talk to me, like why would anybody have a problem with a person saying they're the greatest artist God has ever created?

I think I'm the greatest radio personality God has ever created. Why should I not feel that way? You don't think you're a question. Now, the greatest artist that God has ever created is now working for him. What's the problem with that?

What am I missing here? Why are people up in arms about that shit? Let me ask you a question. Yes. This is a good question. What songs, there are songs that were written 50 years ago that we all still know the words to and sing

that we did not grow up with, but we know the words and we sing them. Right? Songs written 100 years ago that we probably do that too. There are songs like classical music that has existed for, I don't know, 300 fucking years. I don't know how long ago Beethoven,

Chikovsky, all these guys are. What song of Kanye is going to last for another 40 years? Oh, man, that's a bunch of them. Which? Hell yeah, bro. I mean, shit, you can go back. I mean, what album you want to go to? You can go to the college dropout album, and you can grab.

Give me this song. You can grab Jesus walks. You can grab space shit. Nobody even plays that shit now. You're crazy. Them shit be slappy. Jesus walks, nobody playing. What's the shit when it all falls down?

Motherfucking, you can go. Gold Digger. I love the Diamonds of Sierra Leone remix with Jay-Z. I listened to that shit this morning. Isn't Gold Digger a sample? So that's not even his song. It's someone else's song.

To grab Jamie Fox at that time when Jamie Fox was playing Ray and to do that shit over? But what I'm saying is... I love We Major by Nause. Let me tell you something. We can say a lot of things about Kanye West. But one thing you can't say about him

is he's not a talented motherfucker man. No, no, I'm not saying he's not talented. There's been plenty of talented artists and musicians throughout time who have ruled the music world who will be forgotten. Their music just won't carry on. Not Kanye.

Definitely not Kanye. I don't think Kanye's music will be remembered in 40 years. In our lifetime, we won't even think about Kanye. Kanye has the best album of the decade. That's fine. Dude, Guns and Roses was on top of the fucking world. Metallica on top of the world.

That's because you're a midget. Taylor. And you have a short-term memory. past decade because we're going into a new decade we're going to have to start having these conversations right

the greatest rap album of the past 10 years is Kanye West my beautiful dark twisted fantasy people don't even remember that album because it was 10 years ago

I remember it because it was just that good it's the best album of the decade Kendrick is number two Kendra's the number two and three albums of the decade to me

just real quick just real quick I'm not saying that it's not incredible music I'm not saying that it's not he doesn't have amazing songs that we all enjoy

we want to dance who we want to have fun with. What I'm saying is certain songs do not last the test of time and he's out here saying he is the greatest artist in the history of the world. Michael Jackson's songs, even with all these scandals, will be played in 50 years, right?

I don't think Kanye has a thriller. I don't think Kanye has a... I mean, nobody has a... Billy Jean. I don't think Kanye has a thriller. bunch of songs that Michael Jackson, give me Kanye's thriller. Like, I don't think he got it, bro.

I think we forget about him. Kanye don't have a thriller because Kanye has a college dropout. And Kanye has a late registration. And Kanye has a graduation. And Kanye has an 808 and heartbreaks. And Kanye has My Beautiful Doctor's Fantasy. Those five albums right there. First of all, there's not too many rappers

that can come out with five slappers back to back to back. And not only that. I'm not denying his ability or his impact on music. I'm not denying that. I'm just asking for legacy. When you talk about yourself as one of the greatest artists of all time, we have to compare you to the artists that have stood the test of time. He's there, bro.

You can't and not, okay, but what makes you stand the test of time is your music existing throughout time. I don't know if Kanye's music is going to exist throughout time. I don't know. There's people who got through college because of Kanye West. Now, look, I wasn't even a college. I didn't live that experience. We don't even listen to Kanye's, yo, if you're at, I was at a, I was at a, We were at a nightclub.

We were in Boston. Two nights in a row, right? We're at nightclubs. I didn't even hear DJs playing any Kanye songs. Kanye never had club members. But wait, just wait. Kanye never had club records. Just wait, just wait.

You go hear Michael Jackson. Because he got club records. Kanye don't have club records. So then if he doesn't have club records and the youth... You got life records. Sure. Sure. He doesn't have club records.

The youth itself, right, isn't going to... The next version of the youth isn't going to resonate with Kanye because they didn't grow up with it like we did, right? who's going to continue playing it? What do you mean? We didn't grow up with the Jackson 5. Because they got club records. So the club continued to play it.

The parties continued to play it. They existed and they permeated the party atmosphere, the party life and all the DJs were going. It continued. You ain't hit no Tupac in the club that night, I bet. You ain't hit no big a either. No, no, no, no, no, no. You can't say that.

We might have heard. No, we might have heard. There ain't no Frank Sinatra in the club that night. 100%. What club are you going to be? Yes, what I'm saying? Well, you were in a whack-ass club. What Frankie's a natura you heard in the club show?

We heard Michael Boubley. We heard Frank Sinatra. We were hearing all the good. We were hearing all the sloppers, for real, dude. Bing Crosby was up in that bitch. Kanye, and I'm going to tell you something else. Kanye's biggest, I'm not even going to say his biggest legacy, but I always talk about legacy based off the fruit that your tree bears.

You don't have no Drake without Kanye. You don't have no Kid Cuddy. You don't have no Wale. You don't have no J-Cole. You don't have no Chancor. You don't have no Big Sean. These are all artists that were directly influenced by Kanye West. Like directly influenced.

Like, you got to think. Think about when Kanye and 50 Cent went head to head. Gangster Rapples was the shit. 50 was selling all of these records. And Kanye came out with his album and they had that whole battle. The labels were battling. Who going to win? Who going to win?

Kanye wash 50. Yeah. 50. He sold like $600,000, which is great, but Kanye sold like 900-something that week. I'm not denying it. And that changed hip-hop. From that moment on, labels were like,

okay, gangster rap is cool, but let's go fuck a more artists like, let's go find some more Kanye's. No, I'm not denying his influence in the game. I'm not denying how he has changed music and pushed music into a new genre. I just don't see the songs that will resonate throughout history. I got a lot of them, bro.

I love We Major with Nas. I love Can't Tell Me. with just GZ on the ad-libs. I got, like, I love, I love, I love, I can even go to the Pablo album and I can fuck with, like, the, um, waves with Chris Brown. Like, like, I don't know, you got some joints to me. And I, I love it. I love it.

You love it. We all love it. The next generation, if it's not in the club, they're just not going to hear it. That's not true, so. It is. Yeah, that's not true. How you hear music? How you hear music?

None of my favorite artists I look through now in the club. Exactly. There's no Wu-Tang in the clubs no more You grew up with Wu-Tang This is different I'm not talking about that I'm talking about the generation That is not familiar

How did I hear about Michael Jackson I heard about it from the club Me I heard about it from MTV I heard about it from these things We get exposed to music This bro Through different places

This What? I sat with Naila Sluke to Nila My niece Nila My man Dely We was at the house On Saturday night

He was eating drinking and fucking we were on YouTube for four hours. Right. All I was playing in was old shit. And I was shocked at the things that they knew. Right. And I'm like the reason they know it is because of

YouTube. They get on YouTube. You type in one, it might be one Kanye West record and that shit take you down on Wormhole. You'd be like, oh shit, this shit's slapping, that shit slap. That's how they discover music, bro. They literally discover music now. You listen to a lot, Tina Turner? Actually, I don't listen to a lot, but

You don't listen to no Tina Turner. Why not? I have older, I have older siblings. I never listen to Tina Turner. Name one Tina Turner song. She's an icon and that movie slapped. And the Kanye West movie. You know who else slapped now?

Hey, and that Kanye West movie, that Kanye West biopic going slap. Oh, for sure. And when it comes back out in 20 years, and motherfuckers have forgotten, they will be reminded. Just like they got reminded in a new edition. And Bobby Brown, like, bro, Kanye, Kanye is Kanye not going to

him. Bro. There are boys to men songs that will be sung throughout history. I really believe it. I believe in 40 years we'll be seeing

some boys to men songs. Kanye too. I don't know which. I don't know which. Which is your favorite album? I don't know which. Let me Google Kanye's great over. I don't know which.

No, what's your favorite album? I want to see what comes up when you say this. Kanye and Wes. Probably Pablo. That's your favorite one. Yeah.

That was probably my favorite. I mean, I liked college dropout as well. And like that, but that hit me early, you know. Late registration. Yeah, but Pablo, it was probably probably probably, maybe, maybe college dropout. Maybe college drop out. Kanye was greatest hits.

Stronger ain't going nowhere. They still, that shit still plays in the clubs. Stronger. Oh, them, man, then, then, stronger. I skip that shit already. I skip that right now. Don't they make me stronger. Niggas in Paris.

Jesus walks. What? Niggas in Paris. Jesus walks. You really think we're going to be listening to that when we're fucking. 80 years old. Niggas ain't gonna never stop going to Paris,

bruh. All right. And Odens, you know how long they played the oldest? No, for nobody to listen to Odis. This is his greatest hits.

Gold Digggin ain't going nowhere. Runaway is my favorite Kanye West song of all time just because I'm an asshole. Power definitely ain't going. Power was hard to. Slow jam. Love lockdown.

All of the lights? Brough. Touch the sky. Flashing lights. God damn. It's just bullshit right now. Can't tell me nothing. Good life.

Yo. All falls down, slow jams. Mercy. Mid. Fuck, I'm not about it. Ultra light beam ain't going nowhere. Ultra light beam is fire because he's barely on it. Oh, my God.

All the songs he's barely on kind of slap. You said you almost cried listening to, you said you did cry listening to Ultra Light Blues. Yeah. Because he's barely on it. I listen to us. Listen, I support. black women, bro. That's why I like that song. I don't know about y'all. That's what I support.

But for real, I listen to that. I love that. Listen, there's no denying that he is an amazing artist and he's incredible at the music. I just don't think his music will stand a test of time. It already has. It kind of, it already has. I don't think Drake will. No, not really. I don't think Drake will. Dude, standing the test of time is tough. You only get, how many artists have stood the test of time? Like, how many Michael Jackson's do we have? How many fucking Beethoven's do we have? Like, how many, who's, who's Who's the guy? I can't believe I'm forgetting his name, but like, let's get it on.

Marvin Gay. Marvin Gay, man. How many of these people do you have? I don't, you know. No, but his music is the stand since time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, you know how great you got to be if your last name to be gay and dudes are singing your fucking songs still?

Like, this is back in a day. You got people like Stephanie Mills who people probably don't know. When you hear Good All Over, you know what I'm saying? You never heard that? Maybe a shit make you feel good all over. What? Bro. Frank Sinatra,

you're going to sing these songs till you're fucking dead. I know one Frank Sinatra song. Exactly. My way? You don't know my way? I know my way in New York. New York?

I know two joints. But listen, I know the greatness of Frank Sinatra, but I only know two records. Yeah, but the record is slap. They do slap. Bro, Michael Boubley? Bro, Vanilla, I, Ice-Ey's baby,

whether you want to admit it or not, test the test the test of time. I think you should. just had a stroke. I'll be honest. I don't know what the hell happened. I don't know if you were saying Tesla. I don't know if you were saying.

The fucking Tesla. All right. But the eyes was stood up in a Tesla. All right? It's not like vanilla ice when he was hanging out that window. But guys, guys, maybe stood the death of time. It did. And you know what?

Not even his song. So what really stood the Tesla time? No. It was fun. the guy who just died. Bro, these kids have no idea. What's the guy's name? These kids think...

Under pressure. These kids have no idea. David Bowie. These kids think Julia Roberts... These kids think Julia Roberts is Harry Tubman. They have no idea. They have no fucking idea. Can we talk while I look at...

Well, I mean, not Harry Tubman. Not, I mean, not Harry Tubman. Well, I look up... Oh, you got the underground hip-hop. You know, we got to start saying. No, we got the underground. It's so cool. Signed of ruckus records.

In 1843, he signed a ruckus records. Oh, my God. Signed underground hip-hop. Holy shit. That Julia Roberts shit was so fucking stupid to me. You know why it wasn't stupid? Why? Because they do this all the time.

You know it's the same shit as Rodney Reed, right? Tell me. It's people attaching themselves to the issue, not the person. The issue, the issue. The issue is they understand that Hollywood hires white actors to play roles that are not white. And they feel away about that. Yes. So they tweet out something that is clearly bullshit.

The tweet was that some execs said Julia Roberts should play Harriet Tubman. Oh, no, that really happened. No, it did. Yes, it did. The guy, it came from a Q&A. The screenwriter of Harriet Tubman, he said that. As a joke. No.

He said that when he used to be trying to get this movie made back in the day, no executives wanted to do it. And he said the times were different. He said he went in there and he pitched the story one time. And one executive was like, that's a great story. He said, we should get Julia Roberts to play Harriet Tubman. And he goes, Julie Roberts can't play Harriet Tubman. And they was like, why can't Julie Roberts play Harry Tubman? Because she's black.

The execptu clearly didn't know who the fuck Harry Tubman was. It's just hilarious. He just thought the story was great. So then the screenwriter explained to him why it couldn't happen. And then the exec says, well, because nobody wants to admit they wrong. Well, that was a long time ago. Nobody will remember.

Yes. The screenwriter, his name is, what's the screenwriter name? His name is like Greg Howard that wrote the Harriet Tubman movie, I think it was. Yeah, but that's funny. It's funny. And by the way, it's not the first time and this has happened. Do you know motherfucking, I look this up. I love doing this just to have more research.

25 times white actors played people of color and no one really gave a shit. This is from the Huff Post Latino voices. Angelina Jolie played Marianne Pearl. Mary Ann Pearl. Look at Marianne Pearl. Wait, is Mary Ann Pearl black? No, she's Afro-Cubin. Afro-Cubin.

Has naturally curly hair and a dark complexion. Angelina Jolie has no African roots and played her. Ben Affleck played Antonio J. Mendez. In what? A movie. It was a fucking movie. Argo! You remember Argo?

That guy looks. was Mexican? Yes. No wonder he could sneak people out of the country. Shut up. You were fucking Mexican. Do you remember this?

Who's this? This is debatable. What is this? Joseph Fienes played Michael Jackson. You know what I mean? It's debatable. You know, Michael did turn white. Debatable.

Yeah, Michael, because Michael did a lot of that work himself. Mick Rooney as Mr. Yunashi. Chris is furious about this one. But that's, but that's from, uh, what is that from again? But you do you see he was a Japanese landlord. Pink Panther, right? No. Breakfast at Tiffany's.

This right here, Juliet Bonach, played Maria Maria Sugova. Come on, man. Yeah, that's crazy. Let's get this one you all know. Yeah, yeah, because we don't know. I don't know, none of these.

Natalie Wood played Maria. Johnny Depp as Tonto. Johnny Depp looked like he could be Native American now. Nah, well, okay. I mean, you know. But he's not a member of the First Nation tribe. Okay. Elizabeth Taylor played Cleopatra.

The moral of the story is... Hold on. Elizabeth Saylor played Cleopatra. Yes. Hey. Now, doesn't this sound like Vanilla Ice? I'm going to tell my kids that was Hammer. That's what I'm going to do. Vanil Ice is not going to exist in my world.

This right here. Yeah, I thought it was. And this shit go way harder. Yeah, but you're not going to stay... No. No. What? Because...

All right, stop. Collaborate and listen. Ice is back with a band new invention. Exactly. Because of holding me. Tightly, tightly flowed like a hudda-da-da-d-thagely. Well, here's the moral of the story. You don't know the words of that shit.

That shit don't slap like vanilla ice, bro. I wouldn't know that record if it wasn't for vanilla. But it's still taken. You're the white man's credit, bro. Which? Give the white man his fucking credit for stealing. All right. Okay.

Yo, you know what I realized when I was up in Boston? This is so crazy. Talk to me. Because, you know, Boston is, you know, one of the starting places for the Revolutionary War, right? Yes. The Boston Tea Party and the whole thing. So Europeans colonize the United States of America. It's not the United States of America at the time, but just North America, right?

Mm-hmm. We colonize North America. And then Britain is taking all of our wealth. away from us, right? So we fight back Britain because they're treating us like we're colonized. Does that make sense? No.

In other words, like, we colonize. Okay. Right? America colonizes Britain. No, no, no. Let's say Britain, right? Colonizes North America. Okay.

Right? And then Britain is extracting all the resources out of the land. Got you. Right? And then we fight back against Britain. Britain, right? Because we're like, yo, why are you treating us

like we're colonized? We do that a few years after we just colonized. Does that make sense? Yeah, but how we get there? What underground rural did we take care with Julia Roberts to get to this point? How do we get here? I just think it's kind of funny that like we colonize

take everybody's shit and then when Britain's taking our shit, we're like, hey. Oh. Hey, what are you doing? Yeah, but that's life, though, right? That's expensive. It is. When you're a bully, you don't want to get bully.

Facts. But like, you think at any point of time, they're like, oh, that was kind of cold what we did in them Native Americans, bro. That's why you're the bully. I kind of would have liked to see Julia Roberts play Harriet Tubman, though. I think she could pull it up. Bro. What? You don't think that she knows the black experience?

So what? Listen, let's tell you something. Hold on. You don't want to see. Come on. Let's just let's just. First of all, this is not a come to the microphone moments. But continue.

Go ahead. No, for a little, why would you want a white woman to play? Because I want to get these jokes off I wrote, okay? Now, listen, Julia Roberts can play Vivian Ward and Pretty Woman. Does it mean she can play Harriet Tubman in Pretty Slave Woman? Okay, we got another one. Just because Julia Roberts can play Laura Bernie and sleeping with the enemy, doesn't mean she can play Harriet Tubman in a movie called Sleeping with the Enemy against my will

because Master keep raping me. That didn't slap Just because Julia Roberts can play Maggie Carpenter and one-of-way bride doesn't mean she can play Harriet Tubman in a movie called Come on, guys, runaway slave. Runaway slave, okay, one more, one more. One more.

One more, one more, one more, one more, one more, one more. Yeah, yeah. Sure, Julia Roberts can play Tess Ocean and Ocean's Eleven, but she can't play Harriet Tubman in a movie titled Atlantic Ocean 11 No. Pronish him. An origin story of how her grandmother got here?

Did tailor rate these for you? No, church of them. No, I want more. Keep going. Keep going. Let me don't cheat. You know. Hold on.

If Julia Provers plays Harry Tubman, can you, can you fuck, can you fuck her and be staying true to black women? Oh my. No, it's a character. It doesn't count? No, it doesn't count. I wouldn't want to see that no way, though, because there's no way you can. No, you know who should play Harry Tubman?

They already got somebody. Harry Tubman's out. What? It came out two weeks ago. That was the whole point. That should have been a little too underground. I really don't. You know what?

I haven't seen it in those theaters. It's out, though. So who played Harry Tubman? A woman from Britain. I heard Flame played it. No. real. Blaine was playing Harry

a telling me, bro. What's her name? Ain't that wrong with being a little gay. Uh, what are you doing? Her name is Cynthia Arrivo.

Yo, how you feel about all these, uh, black English people taken, uh, on the black American roles? I asked Lena Waif about that. Um, you know what I mean?

Taking jobs from, from, uh, black people whose ancestors have dealt with the black American oppression. I thought Lena, I thought Lena Wave had a great, listen, I think that, you know,

when it comes to the black American experience, the black American experience, is very unique. I think that a lot of us, we still deal with the trauma from the things that happened during slavery and during segregation. So you would want a black American

to, you know, take on those roles because you feel like a black American is the only person that could experience that. But I mean, a lot of the sentiments that you would have to have to play these roles,

a lot of the energy you would have to have, you have... Experience as a black person globally. Period. Right. You know what I'm saying? It's racism. It's segregation.

It's prejudice. That's really all it is. at the end of the day. And they're good fucking actors. Those black British were, holy shit. And it's fighting back against that. Because Daniel, what's Daniel name from Get Up? Kuliaki.

Daniel Kuliaki? I made that up. Ain't no cops seeing Daniel black ass and saying he's British. He's British. Yes. In fact, when they pull him over and he start talking to that accent, they're going to be like,

give me your license and your identification. And I don't need who the fuck you think you're fooling. You understand what I'm saying? So it don't matter. I think that makes a cop more comfortable, though? That might be a good technique if you get pulled over. No. Like, was there a problem, officer?

I think you're trying to be funny. Really? I'll make you get out the car and do your fucking ABCs. Yeah, oh, you're still playing. Now I'm calling for backup. You're still playing. This guy's still playing. Wow, there's a bunch of you, coppers.

He won't stop that fucking accent. What seems to be the problem? That's all I'm saying. So it's like, I don't have a problem with them doing. that. Like, I don't think that, I don't think the, I think the black American experience is unique, but when you have black skin, dark skin, you've experienced all of those same things. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Yes. That's it. So, are we done? Have you watched the, the underground railroad movie? No, I haven't, I haven't got, I haven't, I haven't, I haven't, I haven't seen

the Hustlers movie with J-Lo. I haven't seen fucking the Joker. I ain't seen the Harry movie. You haven't seen Joker yet? No, Queen and Slim coming up. Yo, Chad, Chad, Bozeman got a movie coming out this week. I want to see called 21 Bridges or some shit like that? What's up with that movie? Why, why there's so many bridges? What's going on with that? He's actually playing a cop that's going around killing people for killing cops.

But what is the bridges? I have no idea. Next week, Queen and Slim comes out. But can we get back to the Bridges here? I don't know anything about the bridges. The bridge is over. Why would anybody name a movie about bridges as if that's the exciting thing for a... I got to see it.

Like Joker. Ooh, I like the Joker. I'll go see it. Black Panther. I love the Black Panther. I'll go see it, right? Pretty women. Woman, I like pretty women.

I'll go see it because it's Chadwick Bowlesman and you want to know what the fuck's up with these 21 bridges. I don't. It just sounds like traffic. I'm gonna check it out. It literally sounds like a commute. Is this a movie about commuting to work?

Is this about how annoying- I thought you meant traffic to movie? I was great. That was a good movie. That's just slap. Trafficking drugs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know.

You got to go over the bridge to what? Only Taylor would. reach for that one. Taylor will reach for one that's unreachable. Say what? Say, what do you have to do? Put your lips on the mic? Oh, there is a microphone over there. What do you mean? What do you think is it a metaphor for? I didn't see the trailer yet. Taylor, what, what

energy drew you to the microphone? Well, let me invite you all to a major rally we're having in Queens, New York. What energy drew you to the microphone? You need to take a bridge to get to claims. You just ask me a question. No, no, no, no, no. Prior to that. When you talked about saying that you would like

to see Julie Roberts say, here you tell you. But I was being sarcastic. I just wanted to get my jokes off. Them shit slapped. Yo, yo, yo, yo. Can you, can you please just come back to the microphone for one second? No. Because definitely.

Yeah. No, no, no. I mean this. What if Julia Roberts was such a great actress? And what if she didn't do blackface? She did it the old-fashioned way. She just tanned. She went to Aruba.

She got very tan, right? Do not. What if she got tan? First of all, she still has white hair and everything else. No, fuck the wig and everything else. You don't got your real hair. What's the difference? It's okay.

I'm still black. Prove it. Dig talk. Dick talk. Did I do that at the wrong time? Was that the wrong one? Did I do the wrong one right there? Whoopsie.

Don't get me the sound board. It's lit if I get the soundboard. You know, son. Listen, the sound board? Shit. Amen. Shit. The sound boards, what's up?

I'm gonna be Harriet Tubman. I'm playing Harriet Tubman. Real tuck. And I'm gonna sneak all those fine black men above the makes and dicks in line. And let me tell you something. If you're gonna play Harry Tubman, first thing you have to do is sneak your little dick

in between your legs. You got to tuck that motherfucker. It's just your pooch. All right. As always, this fucking podcast has gone too far. Yeah, but we did it. We went from serious to whatever the fuck we're doing.

Seriously? Come on, son. Stop yelling, bro. Why are you yelling for no? Andrew's medication is worn out, so we're going to get to. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. If you listen to this podcast and you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right to. It's a brilliant idiot's podcast.

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