The Brilliant Idiots - Back In The Gap (Ft Chico Bean)

Episode Date: November 10, 2022

This week we had family, Chico Bean from the 85 South Show, stop by where he was unapologetic when it came to his thoughts on some of this weeks trending topics. They break down the NBA Kyrie would need to complete to back after his anti-sematic comments, Cher dating a younger man and who would win in a versuz battle against 21 Savage. Also, during the episode Andrew and Charlamagne couldn’t but add some d** talk in the mist of conversation, and lets just Chico was not here for it. ********************************************************** Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Stream Charlamagne "Hell of a Week" on Paramount+ Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" www.blackeffect.com/ Empty Thoughts Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/empty-thoughts-show/id1622292632 Empty Thoughts Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-zRsExS9E0VBmwb9Cekdug Check Out "Summer Of 85" on Audible www.audible.com/pd/Summer-of-85-A…areTest=TestShare Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And when you're ready to launch, use the offer code idiot to save 10% off your first purchase. Let's start the show. We got a guest with us today. Yes, sir. More like family. one of the funniest people on the planet whether it's comedy on stage

whether it's podcast you know whether it's being on the street on hell of a week Chico Bean is here Yeah yeah yeah thank you Chico Bean I was waiting on the The room noise for the applause

I didn't know if y'all did that y'all had moved up man I didn't mean coming through here for a long time Yeah that episode is your brother's house Yeah that's right And that really expanded You got your Hans Landa from Inglorious Bassers

headcuts. You're with it. I know it. I know it. I know you with it. And of course, we already know how Charlemagne has upgraded his life and skin and all of that. So it's good to see y'all moving forward. This is actually WTF Media Studios. But we do have the new Bray and Idiot Studios under construction right now. Oh, y'all constructing the studio. Absolutely. Trying to build something. We're going to launch a podcast in January.

We got to officially announce a Brilliant Idiot's podcast, yeah. Oh, really? After all these years, you still feel like y'all need to announce it. It's only been nine. Andrew brought up a good point a few weeks ago. Yeah, what I say? I remember bringing up a good point, but what was it? He said that there's so many people who don't even know we do a podcast. Still, after all this time.

I mean, I can't tell you how many people, and this is how it goes every single time. If it's a black person, they go, bro, I show you on Charlemagne's podcast. And I was like, yeah, yeah, I'm on there quite frequently. It's a white person. They say, I saw you on Charlotteman on your podcast. Yeah. So now we're going to announce it. He's right.

I was walking through the airport two people. But two people, yo, I love you on Flagrant. I ain't even correct them. I'm like, yeah, no doubt. So come January, we're going to announce that we start in the podcast. Oh, well, good. With the new studio and everything else.

After nine, after all of the, when y'all wanted their original podcast and y'all still. That's nine years. No, that is true. Because podcast only been around, what? 12, Chris, 13, maybe? If that. I'm being popular for about nine.

So, yeah, I was one of the first one. I know this is one of the first podcast I ever did. Really? Yeah, all the way back in the gap. It was one of the first. once. Yeah, you were at the live one, too. We remember that?

Yeah. All the way we did the live one downtown. I did the one at the crib. Oh, shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, man. Thank you. Man. Thank you. Thank you.

Man. I appreciate you. It's unbelievable. I look at these numbers all the time. I'm like watching you guys on YouTube. It would be the white man checking the numbers. Always. Always.

Always. Let's see what we're up against. For real. It's motivational. It is, man. I look and I see him like, God, this is truly unbelievable. It's just so awesome. What do you think has had more impact on you, Chico?

The podcast or the stand-up? I mean, the stand-up is always... All wilding out. All wilding up. I mean, I would say to stand-up because it all, you know, came from that. You know, if I wouldn't have got on stage, then none of this would have been possible. So I would definitely say the stand-up. But, you know, to see the effect that the 85 South Show has had is, you know,

it been as though it was born from something so organic to see the impact that it's... having is always. Wiling Out was around before we came around. So we kind of came in and revamped and, you know, recreated it. So that's major as well. But when you do it from, you know, your own inception, I'm sure that's probably what we feel about the 85 is probably what Nick feels about while and out. True. And the impact that is made. So I would definitely say stand up first, though, because, you know, without that, then, you know, it wouldn't be no, nothing to have. It's still wild that Nick tried to fire Carlos, man. Yeah, that's fucking up. I think about that often. The only reason I say that is because you, D.C.

you fucking Charlamagne, you are trove. You could have had that conversation with anybody else. Great chemistry. Great chemistry. It would have been there. You want to have a conversation with a motherfucker who going to talk to him tomorrow. I love Nick. Nick, I literally was just texting with Nick.

I'm not talking about Nick. I'm talking about Carlos. Now, you know how traumatized that was. Oh, yeah, yeah. You're an asshole, man. Okay, let's not talk about that. How do you feel about the Jews? What is your, uh...

Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Fuck, we're going to throw it back on. you how you feel about Brett Favne. You know what I mean? You're not gonna get me.

I've been doing this for job too long. We don't play. We don't play Brett Fahm. Yes, you do. No. You're not about to throw that on me. Next question. We bumped it up in the Jets.

What do you think about Brett Favs stealing money from the black community? We were all about Brett Farv until he showed his dick on Instagram and then we were like, now that ain't, hey, man. You were down with Brett Fahdard. You didn't even know his dick was on Instagram. You didn't know.

Oh, man. Why would I know that? Those are your people. Stop it, bro. You told me when Safari's dick was at, remember? I never told you that. Now you're lying. You text me like, yo, the only fans drop.

I never did that. Why would you lie like that on camera? Come on, bro. I can sue you for hiding. How long did you stay at Brett Faw's Dick? What type of lawyer would you use to sue me? How long did you stay at Brett Faw's dick? Long enough to know my name.

All right, look, man, time out. Does that make you a Green Bay first factor? Listen, we're not going in this direction with you two motherfuckers while I'm here. That is phenomenal. That is phenomenal. Bro, I was for a hot second, I was a Green Bay Fudgebacker, bro. That was crazy.

Oh, Green Bay Fudgebacker. Oh, my God, man. But you know it's so funny about the Brett Fawf case? What's that? That is the narrative, right? Like when everybody talks about Kyrie, they'd be like, yo, you know, why nobody's talking about Brett Faf?

Why aren't people talking about Brett Faf? I don't know when social media is going to realize. Who's not? I thought everybody's talking about it. On your side of social media, they are. They may be, but not on. Why aren't you guys talk about more? It affects y'all more.

But that's my point. Like, social media takes stories and magnifies them. So when you're wondering why outlets aren't talking on Brett Favre the way that they should be, it's because they don't see no heat for it on social media. Everybody talking about Kyrie on social media is all these debates and people going back and forth and arguing. Of course they're going to talk about that and nauseam on mainstream. I got a question about the Kyrie shit, though. Like, is that movie still up?

Yeah. Yes. And that price went up to rent it. Like, apparently when it, before he tweeted the link, it was, you know, reasonably priced to rent. I think it's like $50 to rent now. It's not for four years. I'm sure.

So this is what I'm trying to understand, right? It's like, how can a company be profiting off of it? And then Kyrie share the public thing and then Kyrie be the only person that gets screwed. Well, let's talk about that. I don't know if a company is profiting off it because I don't know how it works because this is self-upload. So you can upload that kind of content yourself to Amazon Prime Video. You can also buy Hitler's manifesto, right?

Like MindConf, they sell that, right? Yeah. So I guess they do, you can sell horrible things. Yes. And also, people are acting like the ADL and other Jewish organizations didn't write letters to Amazon. That came out four or five days ago that they asked anti-definitionally. Anti-definition.

That they asked. Amazon to take it down. And Amazon just responded a couple of days ago and said that they're going to put like a disclaimer. That's what they're considering putting a disclaimer with the video. I guess that's what we do with music too, right? Like there was all those fucking rock songs back in that day telling you to kill yourself and then they put a disclaimer on. Johnny Rebel. Was that the go, go, go, go.

There was a whole court case about it. Go to Johnny Rebel right now. No, I don't do that. I'm an Alabama nigger at LACP. You see, you're talking about the Cari's situation. No, no, no, no. You're not up in these days. You recommend something,

and the next thing you know, you're promoting and you know, you know why you go, Johnny's just talking about black people. Oh, yeah, well, that's the fuck. That's the part that I think is the most unfortunate about the situation

because I don't, I think that we have a, you know, just a misconception about being offended. You can't determine what is offensive to someone else. That's right. You have no right in determining

what's offensive, so you just have to be conscious in who you offend. Because if you offend the right people, then you, you know, there's backlash, but unfortunately for us as black people, it's, we're the easiest people to offend without having to worry about any backlash coming from offense.

Who fault is that, though? It's our fault, but I think that's where our frustration comes from because we see, you know, just like you were saying, just the Jewish community be able to galvanize their people and come together for a cause. And I never said that. Yeah, you did say it. I never said that.

But that was smart the way you did it. That was really smart. That was smart the way you did that. If I said that, then that's what you said. I always knew that this guy was super. high IQ. That was genius right there. I like how you didn't let it flip those.

Like, no, I mean, I said that. I thought I did say that. Yeah, yeah, of course. I mean, hey, we back and forth, baby. But, you know, I think that a lot of it comes from us being able, as a community, as black people seeing that, hey, man, if we had that power or we had the ability to be able to make people, organization to make people look at us and say, I don't say that about black people because you do, you know.

there's going to be some repercussions for that's a good that is a good point like I guess every community has the right to protect their community in the way they do and if you're in positions where you can protect it like for example let's say what happened with the NBA around like Donald Sterling remember when Donald Sterling saying that wow shit and the players are like yeah we're not playing right didn't they or was it George Floyd when they boycott the bubble they left some of them I think they didn't play for a day or maybe it was the bucks no it wasn't George Floyd who got killed him in Milwaukee was that was that was a lot of it was a lot of it was a lot of it was a the guy in Milwaukee, the guy shot. I don't think he was murdered, but he was just shot. But there was basically the player was like, okay, we have some power. We can decide to not play and we can affect this game based on how we see fit. Now, I will say there are certain moments

where like you see somebody does or at least speaks on something that could potentially be offensive and then they get punished like Megan Kelly, who was asking the question, why is it racist if a kid wears blackface and a costume for their character? Do you remember that? So truly, you do get in trouble

if you are a white person who puts on Blackface Halloween or a Black person who puts on White Face for Halloween. Like, back when I was a kid, that was okay as long as you were dressing up as like a character. She got fired by NBC for that. Now, what do you guys think about that?

I think what go is. I don't quite remember it. So I don't know if that's, is that why she got fired for just asking that question? Yeah, I think that she wasn't being empathetic to to why Blackface was offensive within a cost.

I don't think her asking that question. If that's what happened, I don't think her asking that question is a fireball. I think there were more things that were going on. I think the show maybe wasn't in the ratings they wanted. But they used that as the excuse. Woman that was like Santa Claus is white.

Jesus is white. Was that the same woman? Santa Claus is white. There's no black people that live that far north. Really? I mean, do you know any that blacks and nicely? Santa Claus definitely white. I mean, I've never,

you said Santa Claus is white. Jesus black Santa Claus white. Also, what black person can just sneak into your house? Plenty of them. People are excited. According to the police report. They don't leave cookies. for them.

But, uh, there, I think I think, I think that, uh, you know, for us, we've been given one Trump card with as, as, you know, black people and that's the N word. Yeah. You know, if you say the N word, it's over. It's over. No, it's over. Everything else is. Everything else is.

Everything else is. Everything else is. That's not true. It's other slurs. Like, you know, think about, uh, not as bad as the N word. Well, we'll think about Roseanne when Roseanne said that Valerie Jared, Jared, you look like a black person. Yeah. You know, she referred to Valerie. Jared is a monkey. ABC at the time had a black woman as a president. They got Roseanne about it.

But I hear what he's saying. It's like, there's this one thing where if you do it, even if you're not in position to power, the community can go, hey, they cross that line. Right. But it seems like you're saying there are other things that are also offensive. And you like to be able to be all the way. And I think the reason why the N-word is such a big Trump call for us is because it is a direct correlation to the horrific shit that has happened to black people in this country. Yeah. You know what I mean? And when you say that, it brings back all of the shit that you see the conversation being centered around now. So I saw you put up the clip of Nick having a conversation with Jonathan Greenblatt on the, CEO on the podcast about buck breaking. I can wholeheartedly say I know Kyrie Irving is not anti-Semitic.

When given the chance to say, are you anti-Semitic? He didn't say, no, I'm not anti-Semitic. At the press conference, tell us about that movie why he did. He said, stop dehumanizing me. And the movie is saying white Jews invented the Holocaust. And six million Jews didn't get killed. Okay, I know that isn't right. Right.

Because it's a gigantic historical record. Jewish people know when you dehumanize this this way, we know what's around the corner. So in that same statement as those are the tropes that dehumanize Jewish people, the same buck breaking. What's that? I don't really know what that means. To be perfectly honest. The slave masters would bring the buck, the one that gets out of line. So all the other slaves would see lash after lash showed them.

the power to set an example, this is what you must do to fall in line. So when we see the six things that Kyrie must do to get his job back, that's dehumanizing. You know, some of the things that happen during slavery and the N-word is a direct correlation to direct correlation, excuse me, to that. And I think that's why it's so major when people hear it, say it by anybody, but especially a white person because it's like you are taking responsibility. for all the shit that occurred. And the N word is the one everybody should know, right?

Like, there ain't no excuses for the N word at this point. If you let that fly as a white person, you got to deal with the consequences. But think about it. It almost like organizes the world in a pretty easy way for white people because they're just like, all right, just avoid this one word and then everything's fine.

Yeah, right? Whereas, like, with everybody else, we're walking on eggs up. Can you say Latino? Is it Latin X? You can't say Latino? You know, nowadays they're like, we want to be heard as Latin X because

Latino is hate. Latinos hate Latinx. They do. Latinos don't even like that phrase. I'm going to sound so ignorant. It's okay. Is it like Latin X like the Spanish, Malcolm X? Is that a person?

The autobiography of Latin X. At least I announced it first. By Alexandro. By Alexandro. My Alessandro. I love it. I didn't know. At least I am.

My Dominican partner. Dripping. He's Puerto Rico. But it's like, the language, the language has gender into it. It's like Latino, not Latino. So they're trying to be inclusive to people who don't identify as a gender. So why we just do Latin X because we don't know who or how you identify. Okay.

Gotcha. And most Latinos are just like, nah, bro. We don't feel about it. It's rough out here now with all of the different terminologies. And that's why we all got to give each other grace. We all just trying to figure it out. People be ready to crucify the things that we don't know. I called someone that.

I tried to call, this is literally, I'm getting this coffee. I'm trying to get that shit in. No, no, no, no, no. I tried to do my best. I'm getting my coffee and then I already put the order in. And the lady literally,

the lady goes, the lady goes, did you already order? And then I turned next to me and there was what appeared to be a they. So I was trying to be safe. And I go, I go, no, that's next.

And I meant to say, they are next. Yeah, yeah. But I called it that. You just called it it. I called it it. And I just didn't know what the fuck to do. That's my wife's pronoun.

Yeah, I'm this and she's that. I love it. That's a fact. That's our pronoun. I'm this and she's that. Man, man, that's crazy. You have to develop a pronoun these days, man. That's, it's, it's, I was watching in living color.

Classy. And to know. You might get canceled for watching that in 2020. Like, to know. Like, my God. Like, I would be afraid to. It's a sketch called The Racist Realtor. Yeah.

You remember that one when, I can't remember the lady's name, but she was selling the house in New York. The white lady? The white lady. And each race of people that came, she would just spew out all the different stereotypes. She was like, when Tommy Davidson came, he was a black man, she was like, oh, you'll love it here.

There are gunshots every night. You'll be able to fall asleep to the same thing you fall asleep to in whatever community you came from. Let me tell you a little bit about the apartment. Shall I, firstly, this locale is ideal for you. There is a golden bird fried chicken right down on the corner. And you know something there is a crack house over on 7th. I tell you, people are getting beat up and shot there all the time.

And what with you being a doctor and all, your business could be booming. Hi, I'm Sheila Pee. Hi, how are you? Aren't you adorable? I bet when you grow up, you want to manage a 7-Eleven just like that. You know what I mean? And it's just like to know that that was normal so much so that you can put it on national television

in the 90s versus now where it's no way. But what weird is were people offended by that back then? Yes. I'm going to tell you, I had a conversation with David Allen Greer about that. Matter of fact, David Allen Greer and Ken and everyone is. And both of them said the same thing. They said, yes, people were outraged. It just took them longer to complain.

Because there was no one. had the call or faxed it in. You know what I'm saying? So by the time they would get this shit, it was months and months down the line. Yeah, and how offended do you have, you have to really be offended to write a letter? That's right.

You have to really be offended. You don't have to really be offended now. You just have to, you know, feel like, oh, you can not even feel anyway, but you can see now that being offended is the way to go and just jump in line. That's something to be, to feel like you're a part of something. And I think that's really what the stigma is now.

people just want to be a part of something. That's right. Even if they don't feel offended or they're not mad at something, they see everybody else. They're like, well, I'm going to go with the group that look like it's winning right now. And a lot of the feelings feel temporary, right? Like going back to something we was talking about earlier.

We talked about it last week as well. It's like, yo, when we talk about people who offend certain communities, they offend black people, Jewish people, Asian people, whoever it is, it's all about how that community responds. And we tend sometimes to let things just roll off our back. We complain for a few hours on social media, and then it's on to the next. Who's writing the letters? You know, what organization is writing the letters on our behalf saying, hey, we're not going to stand for this?

Because I don't know what y'all think, but Frederick Douglass said it the best, power concedes nothing without a demand. What demands are we making when we get offended? I mean, what demands could we make? I mean, when you think about that, who would be even the person or the group? It's supposed to be NAACP. It's supposed to be an urban league, you know? We got organizations like Untel Freedom out here that's really doing the work.

I don't know. Why don't we think about what we want from it? I mean, that was the thing that was so weird to me about the Kyrie's situation. Is it like... Pull up Kyrie's demands. Pull up. Well, yeah, this is the goal I would imagine, again, I'm not Jewish, so I can't say with the Jewish community once. When is it stopped you before?

Shokes. Well, I'm going to do it. I'm still going to do it. But what I imagine is, is you want to stop the rhetoric, right? Yes. So you want to stop people believing this stuff, and you want to stop people pushing these ideas out there.

So the best way, in my understanding, to do that, is to teach somebody and not to seemingly humiliate them. Yes. So when you humiliate somebody, and don't get me wrong, him posting that might be humiliating for so many Jews. So that's very frustrating. Not just humiliating, they feel it's dangerous.

And scary, yeah. So I understand that knee-jerk reaction. But on the other end, you also have to look at like, Kyrie is a lot of people's heroes. So when you try to say, hey, you need to do this, you need to do that, this is the only way we're going to forgive you to somebody's hero, that's not going to gain support from those people who look at them. Yeah.

And what I would hope that you would do is use this as an opportunity maybe to educate Kyrie, and then Kyrie can use his own platform to tell his people why what he did was wrong if he sees fit. When you start forcing people to do things, it doesn't make them go, you know what, I was wrong. It makes them say I was wrong for the minute. And then right afterwards, like, man, fuck those. Now, is this a force or is this saying, or is this, or is this me saying, hey, man, this is what I need to feel good about what you did? You hurt, you heard us, you offended us.

This is what I need. You can, you don't have to do it. I think it's like, I don't know, my thing with these things is always a play to the future. It's like, why don't you appeal to what's going on in Kyrie and why he was looking at that information and then help educate him on why you think it's wrong? If you know for a fact is wrong and it's unequivocal evidence, just show him. He'll be embarrassed that he posted something that was wrong to all those people. Think about like when you go out there with an opinion, we'd all have done this and we like put our foot on it. We stamp it.

And then someone goes, bro, that was completely wrong. It's embarrassing, but Kyrie didn't give an opinion. It is my price, what I'm saying. Like that's about to be. Well, he was like, this is a really interesting thing. When he put it out with no content. He didn't say anything. He didn't, he just tweeted a link to something.

That's right. And then allow people to develop or think whatever they wanted to think. That's right. And then now he's in this position. But when I see something like this, I wonder who made this list? And how are we, how do we know that this is what the community that is offended actually wants him to do? Yeah.

Or is this people. Yeah. I think this came from, I think this came from the ADL. I'm not sure. I don't know if this came from the NBA or the ADA. But regardless, it's like, how do you know that the ADL represents the average Jewish person? Like, when I speak to my Jewish homies about this, they're like, listen, we don't want it to be chastisizing. We want him to understand why.

We want people to understand why. Use this as a teachable moment. You have a guy that clearly likes to speak to his followers. He considers himself a leader to his followers. Educate him. And then maybe he will educate his followers. But that's what it looks like this list is, though. This shit looks like, give me half a million dollars.

No, do these other things. Let's break them down. Apologize, condemnable. And that first one. apologize and condemn the movie. Like, has anybody even asked him, did he watch it? That's what I think. I don't think he watched the children. I think he

saw the title and it said from Hebrews and Negroes, wake up Black America. Right. And he posted that and that's the thing. I think that my personal opinion is that as especially black men, we need to learn how to practice restraint in some ways in regards to giving our

opinions because as we can see that our opinions when they're given in there, you know, and it's spread. it, you know, nationwide or worldwide, whatever, it has a, for some reason, a much more detrimental effect than opinions of other people. So I think that a lot of times, everything is not for public consumption. Some stuff is for you to be, you know, some stuff is supposed to stay in the barbershop, just for until we get to a point where we can make a list like this for people who offend or make us feel any type of way about anything. I don't disagree with that at all.

And also, but also, too, if you're going to do, my thing is, if you're going to do that, then at least have an opinion. So when you, like, when you tweet out a link with, no context and then people go and watch the documentary they might not even be thinking about what you're thinking about. What was the post? Can someone bring up the post? It was all he did was posted the picture of the documentary from Hebrews and Negroes,

wake up black America. How am I supposed to know Kyrie posted this because he wants to... I don't post shit because I think now you're treating him like, what is it called? The Bigotry of Low Expectations. Like you post shit on your story because you promote it. When you post a show, you post a book, you post whatever. It's like so I think it's fair to go, hey, I thought this was interesting. You guys might also find it interesting.

But if the thing, if it's full of what they call anti-Semitic tropes, it is full of dangerous rhetoric, and you posted it with no context, aren't you co-signing and promoting that? Yeah. Okay, didn't it? But you can't be mad at the reaction. No, he didn't give us no context to it.

Oh, I thought you were saying the opposite. Yeah, I agree. I understand the reaction is really frustrating and scary, especially to the community that has seen, like, these tropes be used to take their lives and, like, remove them from countries. throughout history. There's no question. I understand the concern there. What I'm looking at is how do you, how do you react to this in a way where it makes not only that person, but also the people that follow him, feel like you actually care what they think. Well, let's go back to the

demands. Go back to the demands. Yeah. Because we will have to copy and condemn, right? Apologize and condemned movie. All right. He already apologized. He condemned some parts of the movie. Yeah, the certain parts of the world. Well, he didn't, he didn't apologize. That was the big issue. No, he did. He did. He did. But that's where it became big. Like, the first thing was like, you know, just apologize. And he's like, I'm not going to apologize.

I take responsibility. Well, he didn't say I'm not going to apologize. When they asked them, we can play the clip. When they asked them to apologize, he just simply said, I didn't mean to hurt anybody. He didn't say, I apologize. I'll take my responsibility for posting that. Some things that were questionable in there, untrue. Like I said, and the first time you guys asked.

me when I was sitting on that stage. I don't believe everything that everybody posts. It's a documentary. So, I take my responsibility. It seems like Adam Silver wanted to hear the word, I apologize, or in your mind, you said I didn't mean it caused any harm. Were you apologizing or not about it? I didn't mean to cause any harm. I'm not the one that made the documentary. What are these specific things in the documentary that don't believe are true and that you represent your own? I think, uh, some of the criticism. of the Jewish faith in the community, for sure.

Some points made in there that were unfortunate. Literally, he could have been like, yo, I'm sorry, this shit is dead. But because he was fucking Kyrie and he's a stubborn fucking idiot. Jesus Christ. He is. We're not using that language. He's an idiot.

But that's a perfect example of what we're talking about. You can say that Kyrie Irvin is an idiot and, you know, that'd be fine. But something like this, you would never have to. If he was, he's an NBA player. He's a superstar. Yeah. He still doesn't have the power to make you publicly apologize for calling them an idiot if you're feeling.

Yeah, because I'm calling Kyrie Irving an idiot. He's not an idiot because he's black. He's an idiot. You think he'll make sure to apologize. Carrey, he'll make sure to apologize. Carl! He'll come in and back you now. Hell!

You think he backed me down? I think you back you down. Hey, hey, what's my record against point guards in the league, bro? Hey, hey, hey, you want to talk about never forget. Jay Williams was in a deal. Hey, man. You don't remember. What is my record?

against point cards carrie says never again will you be the enemy I guarantee I get a bucket off Karee 100% man you are you are always stanky leg the line

right there on the line I don't know how y'all have made it nine years between y'all too the shit that y'all say what do you mean we haven't made it I mean you know

what are you making oh no y'all they don't know we have a podcast that's right maybe y'all need to stay underground maybe we need to stay underground to you mean.

Goodness gracious. Sholts ain't never got hit. I didn't got a asswhip. A few times. Oh, yeah. You got some right for these. Hey, man. But I'm still here.

You know what I'm saying. God got me, baby. Go back to the man's, Taylor, please. I want to, we can't get past the first one. All right. $500,000 donation to anti-hate calls. That should be at the end. Can I say one thing about the apologizing condemn movie?

Yes. I don't want you to apologize and condemn the movie. I want to share information with you that maybe makes you feel like you on your own should apologize and condemn it. Me just telling you to apologize for some shit you might still believe in and agree with, what does that do?

It's like a public display of bullshit. It's like where you see these like Hollywood people all the time. If you have this information that can motivate this young guy into thinking differently about a scenario, then give it to him. But I think it's very important that, you know, when Kyrie got the opportunity to share what it was he was trying to convey, he did do that. Like, he did tell people why he posted the doc. And I really think it was just based off the title from Hebrews to Negroes.

Because it's thought, what's the conversation, Chico, about the black Israelites and. Yeah, the black Israelites and, you know, the 12 lost tribes of Israel and, you know, the curse of Deuteronomy. And, you know, it's a bunch of different theories, you know what I mean? If you're from New York, you've seen the history of Israelites preaching this stuff on the corners for years. So I think that it's just, like I said, it's the access to information that we have now. Whereas though, like you said in the 90s, you had to write letters and go to the library to get your information now. It's just so much you opening up your phone that you can find whatever information you're looking for. But, I mean, for him to have to apologize and condemn the movie, who made the movie?

Oh, I know his name. Who made it? Why is now Kyrie Hervin's job to condemn the movie? a movie that he didn't make. I can see if he made it. He did promote, though. And also, if somebody tells you to apologize. I didn't promote it a lot of shit,

but I shouldn't have to apologize. If you made a record that I liked, and you said some shit in it, that was offensive to a group of people. Apologize and condemn. Black men don't cheat. We don't. All right.

And that is a empowerment record. You were rolling on something? No, I mean, I understand what she came from with that. I do. I do because, like, Los is my mind. No, I'm sorry. Lowe's is my brother, it's my partner.

So if black women were offended by that statement, why? Because I tweeted a link with him wearing the T-shirt, should I have to apologize for some shit that is his whole mantra. He came up with it. He has the knowledge behind it. He would be able to explain it. So why should I have to be the person to apologize for that? Chico, let me tell you something.

I am not into telling the community what they should be offended by, but I will tell every black woman that they should not be offended by black men. I mean, I don't think they, they definitely are offended by it. And it is a declarative statement that we are making, okay? Because not only are we saying black men don't cheat, we're saying black men don't cheat. And I don't know how they could be upset at that. This is something for y'all. We made this to make your lives better.

I heard Carlos say that. And I'm like, yo, Carlos is right. We don't cheat. You know what I mean? Duvall wanted to make it a song. I'm like, yo, that's right. Yo, that's right. Black men don't cheat.

Yes. That is a message to be elevated. It depends on where the comma is. That's all you got to, you know what I mean? That's fire. And also, too, when it came to condemning the movie, there's another thing. Wow. That was fucking unbelievable.

What? Black men. Don't she? Yeah, it's the comma. It's the placement of the comma. Oh, shit. How did you women not know that's what it was? Because they don't want to hear us.

That's the problem. They don't want to hear y'all. Hey, guys, we're veering off from. Oh, you're right. You're right. We still haven't made it past condemning the movie. Okay, so listen, condemn the movie. I'm going to tell you another thing Kyrie, possibly a misstep Kyrie did.

He talked about how there's some things in the movie he agreed with some things he didn't. He said some things that, you know, were said about Jewish people that he didn't agree with some things he did. The claims of anti-Semitism and who are the original chosen people of God and we go into these religious conversations and it's a big no-no. I don't live my way like that. I don't live my life that way. Excuse me. I grew up in a melting pot and I say a melting pot of all races, white, black, red. yellow, Jewish, Christian, Muslim, and you can see the way I live my life now.

I'm not here to be divisive, so they could push their agenda. I don't want to say they, because I'm not identifying any one group or race of people, but I'm in a unique position to have a level of influence on my community. And what I post does not mean that I support everything that's being said or everything that's being done or I'm campaigning for anything. All I do is post things for my people and my community and those that is actually going to impact. Anybody else that has criticism and obviously wasn't meant for them. You can't say that in the movie that's got this many anti-Semitic tropes.

Without being specific. Okay. You got to be specific. He got to be specific. He was dumb for doing that. Jesus crazy. Yo, Kyrie going to fuck you up. I was selling.

You don't call him an idiot twice. Dumb? I believe he's an idiot. Wow. Wow. I do, genuinely. He thought the world, the earth was flat. Like, he literally for a moment.

I got some friends that think the earth was flat. What the fuck is wrong with thinking anything? I got some people who I love. I got some people who I love that think the earth is flat. I believe it's the same person. So, I mean, like, what's wrong with these people? It don't matter. It don't matter who it is.

No. It don't matter. No. No. No. No. No. No, I'm not telling you.

No, I'm not telling you. When it started to swoop down, no, I'm not telling you nothing. No, I'm not telling you nothing. But what's what I'm saying? What's wrong with thinking anything? I don't give a fuck what anybody thinks. Why are we so, I don't care what anybody thinks. Yeah, you do, because if they thought some things that made you offended, you would be a...

No, I don't... You know, how many people think shit that makes me up... Oh, I don't care. You're doing it as fine. Yeah, you can think whatever you want to think. It's the actions behind the thought that makes it a problem. I'm going to tell you the problem with the thoughts. Yeah, yeah.

Motherfuckers can share them now. That's the thing. And we're sitting around thinking and how you said the barbershop, that's conversation we used to have amongst these. other. Yeah. That's fine. But boy, when you get on that social and just start sharing shit that you ain't even thought

through yet. This is my, my take on Kyrie is that I think that he was taking advantage of young by the industry that he's in. And because of that, has closed his circle like crazy. I think his mother's is actually, his stepmother's is agent. That's very rare for an NBA player. So usually what happens. I think that also is what happened to Kanye.

It's like he got taken advantage of by a lot of different people. I don't even want to put Kyrie in Conno. In the same sense. Okay, fair enough. Whatever. Yeah, you guys have reached capacity on the Kanye conversation over here. And that's another reason that Kyrie ended up in this situation. Because of the climate that Kanye created.

So back to think. So I think what he's gone through, I mean, this guy was pro at 19 years old. Like, he's definitely had corporations and people probably trying to extract money from him, has a crazy distrust. And because of that, once you start to entrust nobody, any information is available to you could be right. If you don't trust the people that are closest to you, which has happened to him his life,

then you're like, who else is lying to me? Are they lying to me about the world being flat? Maybe, let me watch this video. Are they lying to me about who I am as a person? Maybe. Let me watch this video. There's information out there. So I have empathy for Kyrie.

His circle is so small. And when sometimes your circle is so small, you have nobody in your circle to go, hey, you're doing some things that are not really beneficial for you. Because of them thoughts. So what you go with them? I'm at home by myself thinking. There ain't nobody there to stop me from doing this.

And that's, you're right. Just because the truth is subjective, in my opinion, because what's true to me is a lie to somebody else. What I believe somebody else is going to say, that's bullshit. You know what I mean? So you can't condemn anybody for their belief system. You only can condemn them when they offend the wrong people with their belief system.

That's just it. You're allowed to think whatever you want to think. Like, Hari can think whatever the fuck he wants to think he's a grown man. I think that we have a problem now today. We're trying to make people think the way we think or have our perspective. That's bullshit. Like that doesn't make a difference. You say what?

Some thoughts are dangerous. Some thoughts are dangerous. When you put them into the ecosystem. That's right. That's right. But my ability to be able to have the perspective that I want, if I keep it, you know, right here and I just, whatever I feel, as long as I don't, I have the restraint enough not to do it publicly because I know now we live in a time where information

travel so much fast. You can't be mad at nobody for thinking anything. Whatever somebody believes is what they believe. Allow them to believe. And then it's just the social construct that makes you believe, okay, well, if this person says this, then they're wrong. If you believe the earth is flat, square, I don't give a fuck what shape it is. I'm just glad I'm on it.

Yeah. That's my perspective. You know what I mean? I saw something other day. They said the earth is the shape of a dick. Really? Yeah. I mean, hey.

So that mean, we all riding a dick. You see what I'm saying? Like, this is the point that I made. You said I didn't. This is that's my eye. You said I'm trying. This is the point that I'm making. This is the point that I'm making.

I've been around this thing for years and this wild. So what? That's still my man. I still fuck with him. I got a real question like, is that why the ocean is so salty though? Now what the- Oh, wow, bro. That was offensive to diabetes.

God, man. That was offensive to the diabetic community. I've been told that salty jokes are like this shit is ridiculous, man. Like that we even end up here with these conversations. This is crazy. I do want to say, too. We're still on number one. Real quick before we get to number two.

The reason I refuse to put Kyrie and Kanye in the same bracket is because Kyrie Irving loves black people, Kanye, West does not. Jesus. Right. That's right. Can you going to say Kanye West don't love black people, bad? bro. And you know what?

The hashtag Katie was right. You niggas are having a nasty, nasty-ass conversations over here, man. All right, $500,000 donation to anti-hate causes. He did that. They gave him the money back. What does that do? I don't know. No, I need a hand towel, Taylor.

This is the one that confuses me. Can I ask you a question? Yes, go ahead. So does that mean if I want to watch the video, I can just pay $500,000? What do you mean? Are you telling me right here I can watch the video publicly tweet it if I just have enough money? Well, no, we're getting to what you were saying about the information and teaching somebody, we're getting to that.

No, no, no. I'm saying right now they're like, yo, apologize and pay $500,000. So now if I want to, you just put a price on me and join and agreeing with the video. Well, no, that's a little different because it says to anti-hate causes. It doesn't specifically say because from what I understand, the, what is it, the ADL, I think they rejected his initial 500,000. After they didn't like his apology. So if you reject the money, then I guess that means that he can take that half a million dollars

and donate it to anything he wants to donate it to. And I'm sure that there's plenty of people who would love that money. I'm sure Dr. Umar Johnson would love to get that money for FD. I forget the rest of the letters, but you know what I'm talking about. Frederick Douglass, Marcus Garvey, school to ease building. So if that is a part of it. it then that's the one part that I you know I agree with take that half a million dollars and you can if and now if he gives it to a cause that's beneficial to black people and then he's

condemned for that then that let you know it's a problem by the way caria donated a lot of the money to black people there's a lot he's done a lot he's done so much that you know and then it's like i knew that before that meme started going around you know what i mean because i hear that from people in other organizations right and then if he's quiet about it then that's another thing that we live in it's like nowadays if you don't post the the social Post the social media the positivity that you do it never happened nobody gonna talk about nobody will talk about it Not just black communities too i think native american community period you know i mean if it don't go on social media It didn't happen so because he's you know humble enough to do all these great

Social acts without letting the world know when he finally does something that the world does get a hold of That's immediately brushed to the side because that's like the gift and the curse of social media because you don't want to put your You know helpful acts on line but if you don't then people will just be able to act like you never did it as soon as they get mad at you about something. These are the two that confuse me. We're getting to the list. Sensitivity training and anti-Semitic training are third and fourth. What's the difference? Because sensitivity training to me sounds like

something that is widespread. Anti-Semitic training is specific to the Jewish community. Well, I'm going to say, why would he need widespread sensitivity training? Because you, I mean, that's just what comes with being, you know, in this position, I guess. Yeah. That's true. If you're deemed to be a person who is, uh, That's true.

An idiot as this motherfucker keep calling them. I never call them an idiot. Are our, are, Chigo, I don't know you're about to fall

for that, Chief. I mean, I just look at them. And I've been around here for years, and I've been thinking the whole time I love you and I was thinking like, do I really want to come up here?

Fuck with these two motherfuckers, man. Like, because I, y'all, my guys, but it's just like, I know what I'm walking into. I've done this so many times.

Here we are, man, all the way. To Chico's point, like, you know, when you have a platform or stature as large as Kyrie Irvin, there is a balance, right? Like, to your point about thoughts, when you got that kind of platform, man, you can put certain things out there, bro, I could tilt shit this way or tilt shit that way. So you do need sensitivity training. I don't know what that looks like, but I was just having a conversation with one of my OGs this week, and he was talking about that. He was talking about the sensitivity you have to have in moments like this. Especially in today's time because information travels so fast, the attention span is 15 to 60 seconds now. You know what I mean?

So, you know, I think this is, this is, you know, going on now. But eventually this will, you know, I think, what is it, November now by March, this, more people won't even be having this conversation. Way before that, you know, depending on what Kyrie decides to do. Because I saw some stuff floating around and said he was going to retire, which was bullshit. But I mean, I think that whatever decision he chooses to make will, you know, determine how long this is a thing. If you look at Colin Kaepernick, that has lasted, you know, way longer than it would have if he would have if he would have just, you know, I guess went and did whatever they demanded him to do. You know, I think the fact that he chose to go another route is what stretched it out and made him a martyr in a way because he, you know, he died in front of everybody as far as his career, at least. he was, you know, crucified as career-wise because he refused to stand up, you know what I mean?

And I think that if Kyrie doesn't meet these demands, then it'll last a whole lot longer. By the way, I haven't seen nothing on this list that we can't do. We? Yeah. $500,000 donation. I can't do that. I'm going to go ahead and let you know. No, no, no, no.

I'm just talking about it. $500,000 to donate to anybody. No. I'm going to let these two rich motherfuckers that they can do that. I'm going to do the shorts. I didn't say that. I didn't say that. No, I'm saying that somebody insults our community.

Apologize, right? Condem what they said. Half a million dollar donation to a black organization or a black cause. Sensitivity training, which I think a lot of people need in regards to just any dealing with race, men need it in regards to dealing with women, straight people need it in regards to dealing with gay people. Like, that's fine. Antisemitic training.

Man, everybody, a lot of us need that. And I'm going to tell you why. Because a lot of people say to me, man, I watch that documentary. There ain't nothing anti-Semitic on there. Exactly. And that's why you need to shut the fuck up. Yes. That's why people keep stepping on landmines.

Because you don't even know what's considered an backpack. You can't determine what offensive. Why don't they do this publicly? Like, it just seems like such a, like a virtue signal. Like, if I'm the owner of the team, I go. It was, the offense was public. Yeah, but still, if I'm the owner of the team, I go, hey, we're me with private, privately with Kyrie to discuss these matters.

Obviously, there's a lot of people hurt and offended. And we've been talking to Kyrie. And Kyrie feels if he does. You don't quiet the noise like that, Schultz. But let me just get it out. if Kyrie does feel remorseful for hurting people, which I think he did say he said he felt bad for hurting people. So we just want to discuss it internally.

How does the fucking discussion internally first? Now, if Kyrie is rejecting that, that's another issue where you're paying a guy $30 million a year. He won't even come in for a meeting. That's a different, like, you still are an employee of an organization. You've agreed to that contract. But, like, I would personally bring him in, say, hey, listen, there's some people here.

They just want to tell you why this information is false, why it's offensive. Like, we don't want to make this a big, whole public thing. After getting that information, what do you think the best way to move forward is? Treat them like an adult. This is treating when someone like an infant. Apologize. Come down. Uh, meet with these people. Six o'clock. You have to be here. It's, to me, it's like infantilize. I mean, you're going to have to meet with him anyway, right? But why do you? You just talked about to me. But what this is, this is the Nets looking out for the Nets. This is the NBA looking out for the

NBA and not looking out for a young man. But that's why you clearly is confused and you could maybe offer him some help. I agree with that. But that's what, that's what, that's, That's what the last thing is. The last thing is meet with ADL Jewish leaders and meet with Joe Sy to demonstrate. Meet with Joe's understanding. That's the part that is the most confusing to me on the whole list. Meet with Joe's side to demonstrate understanding. What makes Josai the most understanding person that you have?

That is true. Like how does me going through all of these different things? Josai's from China. He met Jewish people five years ago. You know what I mean? Like if I. He's from Taiwan. Sorry, almost time.

Don't shit on. That's Chris's good. Yeah. You heard Chris, you know, that shit like Brooklyn, Ty Wong. He's from Taiwan. Like, I'm just saying. Is there a flourishing Jewish population in Taiwan, Chris? Then you're getting there?

I go through all of these different, I meet all of these demands. And then finally, my final boss or my final test to beat the game and get back in the good standing of the organization is to meet with my owner and demonstrate that I understand what. Now this is when we got to look at it from the macro perspective. meeting with Josiah don't really got nothing to do with this. This got to do with all the other stuff Kyrie has been doing since he's been

with the next. Yeah, but why you even need to put it through? You're the boss. Tell your employee to come to the office privately. Right. And that part I agree with you. I don't talk to him. I don't know. Well, then if your employee's not talking to you,

then you can suspend your employee for that or you can do some sort of disciplinary action. But like adding that to it, it just seems like their virtue signaling. It seems like, hey, throw that in here because I want people to know that me, Josiah, I'm a good guy. And everybody needs to know that we're going to punish that bad guy.

Demonstrate understanding. What am I demonstrating the understanding of all of the things on this list or demonstrating the understanding of what the net feel I should understand? And I just want to say this. And I'm saying this from friends of mine who are Jewish that reacted to this. They didn't like it because what they said is this is going to create more animosity for the Jewish community. And literally every one of my Jewish friends said the exact same thing.

They're like, listen, there's a better way to go about it. Why don't we educate him? Why don't we ask him if he's willing to come to the Holocaust? museum and that's what I thought it was. I thought you had to go to the Holocaust Museum. You're taking that trip to Israel. That's far. Israel's far. There you go to the museum. Do you know what I mean? They don't got to go all the way there to go to the museum. I think you got to do both, bro. That's a lot. Back in the day, you used to have to do both. Oh, really? Now it's gotten softer. This generation. Nick went on the field trip.

Who? Nick. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway, I guess my point is to like, I'm glad he did. I'm glad he did too. But if the Jewish, even a Jewish community that I'm speaking to a regular basis is like, yo, this is kind of creating a lot of anti-Jewish sentiment. To your point? No. Which is not the goal. So you could speak on Chris. Chris Moro is Jewish.

He said, come here, Chris. Get on the mic, Chris. It just creates division. What did you say, Chris? It creates animosity. Creates resentment instead of understanding, which is what we need. And again, I'm speaking for Chris Morrow, not for anybody else right now. But the ADL exists to, well, to be in the middle of situations like this.

This is its job, right? Like, so on the scale. So you mean, like, like, like, like. mediator or what do you mean when you say I don't want to say drum stuff up because Kyrie started it but like as an organization it's there to kind of react

to stuff like this so of course they're going to come with the strongest reaction I mean they are the anti-deformation league so I'm just saying in the big picture the Kyrie make a mistake yes should you just apologize and kept it moving yes I get uncomfortable when I see this bullet point

of list and I especially get uncomfortable when I see money like it feels I don't want to say it's a shakedown, but it feels like give us 500 grand. Yeah, what does that do? They gave it back to him, though. They said we don't want it when he decided not to apologize. Yeah, they gave it back to him.

I guess I agree with what you're saying. I was like, there's a better way to go about. Now, he did some dumb shit. He didn't immediately apologize for it. He didn't at least try to have some understanding, and he, like, kind of stuck his foot down. So you're going to get resentment from the community you offended. Let's say that there's somebody who offended black people,

and they were like, why don't you just apologize and condemn the thing you said? He's like, I'm responsible for it, but I don't necessarily apologize. You're like, man, fuck this guy. I understand the reaction. I mean, but if he didn't have the understanding in the time that he made, that this all happened so quickly. Yeah.

You know what I mean? It happened so quickly. So when they initially asked him about it, he may have had a difference of opinion. Might have been feeling defensive. You know what I mean? He might have felt this way, but as a human being. I mean, but right. But he was being accosted in that regard.

Like, hey, man, what do you think about this? Or it is this. And if I haven't even watched it. documentary at that point, which I probably don't think that, I don't think that he had watched it fully at that point. And then you know, you're like, you know what, maybe let me go, let me go look at this shit because they seem to be pretty upset about it. And then you go watch it and then you see, okay, they, they said in the document, I haven't seen it, but they said it was, you know, they denied the Holocaust. It's like, that's, I mean, we know that that occurred. You know what I'm

saying? So it's like, even, no matter what your thought process is, you're like, okay, that's like somebody saying slavery didn't happen. You know, that's bullshit. You know what I mean? the biggest deal. You know what I mean? Everything in there, that's the one thing. Yeah. So it's like, you can see why that'd be so.

Chris, you watched the whole thing, right? I watched like 20 minutes of it. But also, too, man, you ain't going to get far reposting documentaries that quote in Hitler and Henry Ford, bro. It's barely a documentary, man.

It's, it's, it's, it's, quality. This is not like something that deserves all this kind of like debate and analysis. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He put something out there. He shouldn't have put out there. He could have just walked it back. This would have been over a week. we could go. I think he wants to be the guy who he thinks is standing up for something. Yeah. I don't even think it's that serious. I really think he, I think the title is going into the conversation about the who's the original Jewish people and he feels like black people are Jewish people too. And he posted that because of the title from he rules and Negroes, he does this all the time.

It's like he wants to be part of a larger conversation. That's okay. I think, I think a lot of times what happens is when you do something for a living that is seemingly, and we can fall into this. Some people feel is dumb, right? Like, bouncing a basketball and shooting it might not be seemingly as important as, I don't know, give me a fucking, give me a job that's like really important. Social activists, exactly. Like, so then you go, you go, oh, what am I doing to make the world better when the reality is, it's like, there's no fucking rules to this. Like, you know, you know what it is, so. Chico know what it is, too. Everybody want to be Muhammad Ali? Yeah. If you're an athlete and, you know, especially in, in the times that we've been in over the past five,

six years, everything from Black Lives Matter, watching what Colin Kaepernick did everybody. Everybody wants to be that kind of modern. And you feel guilty that you're not doing enough. You're making all this money. Your community is still hurting. You're like, how can I help? And I'm tired of y'all.

I say, as black people, it's unfortunate that that's the only platform that we've been given to even get to a mass enough scale to where we can impact our people that way. It's athletics and entertainment. You know what I mean? So it's not that everybody wants to be Muhammad Ali. We only had Muhammad Ali. we haven't had anybody to go to that extent to where we can say, oh, well, I'd rather be this person.

What do you mean? What do you mean by that? I mean, as far as the people who have been given an opportunity to be able to, you know, go to that level, as far as Muhammad Ali did, the stance that he took. The people have made the change. The made the change. Oh, yeah. We have Martin Luther King, Malcolm May. I mean, but that's over the years. I mean, I'm talking about just in athletics. In athletics, okay.

In athletics and entertainment. Outside of that, we haven't seen any. do what Muhammad Ali is done in that regard. Maybe, maybe, yeah, Ali might be the bar, but you definitely had like the Bill Russell of the world. I mean, yeah, but they didn't give up their careers the way. That's true. Like, that's what you say, you just said that everybody wants to be Muhammad Ali.

That's true. In my mind, when you say that, that means that everybody, that somebody wants to be the person that's willing to sacrifice everything. He was willing to go to jail. He lost all his titles. That's right. He lost his money. He didn't fight for five years.

And never switched the message. He never made it about him. Never changed. none of that. I'm upset. I'm not boxing. You know what I mean? Y'all's your boycott boxing.

Never did none of that. Kept in on message. Yeah. We've only been given that example one time. And it's not that, you know, that's wrong because who the fuck should have to give up their whole career to prove a point? I think that's somebody who's trying to prove a point? Yeah, I mean.

Because as soon as you do that, you know the risk. You know the risk that comes with that. I mean, right. But, you know, you also know that it's a very rare chance of you getting in the position to be able to change your life, your families. dynamic and you know we don't have a blueprint of success most of the time in our community so it's i think it's unfair that we as black people have to finally get one person that makes it and gives our family some some stability or be able to give back to the community and now it's like

all right niggie give it all up to prove a point that's tough you know i mean you know to what to what chico is saying is so true that's why your circle is very important yeah because the reality of the situation is, like you said, if Kari want to have those thoughts, cool. But whoever he's getting that information from should say to him, all right, though. We don't need you going public with this. Yeah. And we don't, we don't need you taking these stances because we need you to be you, because we know that you're making these hundreds of millions of dollars and you're putting

it back where it needs to be in the black people. And when your circle is. Everybody got a role. You know what I'm saying? Everybody got a role. Let people play their role. But that's, yeah. That you make a really interesting point.

both are about the Ali situation, like him not doing it for himself, him not asking for any like punitive damages to the organization. Like him keeping it on task. That's it. Keep it on message. And it's so rare that you have somebody,

okay, this never happens in history that the most devastating fighter, and we're not talking about MMA at the time. We're talking about boxing, right? So at that moment in time, people are like, if you're the best boxer, you're the most devastating human on the planet. The most dangerous human on the planet

is also the most charismatic human on the planet. It's unbelievable. It's also... Unbelievable. God gave him so much. An activist that doesn't care about losing it. God gave him so much. And think about it, it's like... God gave him, I leave so much, bro. Yo, but here's where I truly believe

that he believes in God, because when you come from not a lot, and then you get something, you're holding on to it. You're like, I can't lose Are you kidding me? My family relies on me. All these people rely on me. What if I lose it?

You got to have an otherworldly faith that this is destiny to go. All these people, don't wait. We're going to be fine. That is fucking rare, man. Yeah. And also to that point, now you know why people want to be connected to something. Because even if it's not you, it's your family. Like, if you stop working, there are people in your family, I imagine.

Oh, don't imagine. Right? Yeah. So, so. Don't need for imagination. No need for imagination. No need for imagination on that. Yes.

So, so, so it's like, I feel that way too. It's like, it's bigger than us. So to stop working for a greater goal, knowing full well,

you're making these people potentially vulnerable. You got to have unbelievable faith. Yeah. And not only do you have to have unbelievable faith. The people who you're talking about

have to have unbelievable faith in you. Ooh. You understand. And that's the harder part to establish. You know what I mean? When you have to gain that level of trust with your people and say, hey, trust me, I'm moving this way. And I guarantee you that everything is going to be okay.

That means that they trust you enough to know that whatever comes, you're big enough and you're strong enough to be able to shield them from the whatever comes from your actions and your, you know, decision making. So I think that's something that, you know, like I said, in Kyrie's case, if he really feels himself to be in that mold, as you said, then I think that, you know, kudos to him. if he takes that stance because that's a bold stance to take. I want to go back to something you said, Schultz, about, you know, the animosity that is brewing, right? Because nobody wants to see, you know, Kyrie go through this.

There's two parts to that, right? Y'all know me? I'm on record saying you can't tell somebody how to react. You know what I'm saying? If you offend somebody, you do something to somebody, how they react is how they react. We can all say, man, you're going too far, but it's easy for us to say when we're not in that position. Because I know, man, I'll take that checklist any day for 19, 19 out of 20 times when it comes to these white supremacists. There's so many people that have offended black people over the years.

I would love to see them have to go through this kind of checklist. So I'm not going to sit here and say, hey, man, I think that is too far. I'm never going to tell somebody how to react. But there is, I'm glad Nick Cannon and the CEO of the ADL Jonathan Greenblatt had a conversation because to me, that's where, you know, true healing begins between these two communities. if the healing is needed and necessary. And the reason I say that is because... Because it did feel like there was like this brewing... It still feels like that now.

Between like Jews and Black. That's right. That's right. And it's a lot of people starting... They believe the rhetoric that they're hearing, you know, about Jewish people. And so it's just like, yo, let's have the conversation before it gets too far. Because I sternly believe that we got more in common than we do differences. You know what I mean? And I think it's going to start with those conversations.

So it was just good. I haven't seen the interview yet because I don't know if it's out yet. I just saw the clip that Nick put online and I reposted it. But from that two, three minute conversation, it looks like it's going to be productive. I agree. And I think that more conversations need to happen like that from both sides because I think it needs to be a level of understanding of why black people are so frustrated in this country because the things that happen to us happen to us here.

You know what I mean? And we haven't gotten any reparations as they say or, you know, there's been no reconciliation for the things that have happened to African American people on this soil. You know what I'm saying? And we constantly are used as, you know, the, you know, just an example to what needs to be done better. But we are never used as an example of what could be done better for us. That's right. You know what I mean? We never put up in the site like, hey, look what we did for to better improve this community. Everywhere you go in America, there's a Chinatown. There's a, you know, a little Italy. There's a, you know, all of these different communities.

We just have the ghetto. And we act. And Chico, we act like we don't be trying to model ourselves after those communities. We have these conversations. I wanted, man, we should be doing it like the Asians do it. We should be doing it like the Jewish people do it. We have these conversations. Yeah, but we also are not giving the opportunities to go in and utilize the system

and the way that other people are able to utilize the system. Are we not, though? No, we're not because you got to understand how far back we are in regards to just look at something like financial literacy, right? if you're the first person and your family to actually come into some money with most other people, you have something that you can directly go to to help you understand that money that you've got.

We have to search for that as black people because we don't have anybody that looks like us, one, and that we're comfortable with because, you know, black people. We do now, though. I mean, now we do. So I would agree with you maybe 10, 15 years ago. Right now, us, our generation,

I don't think we have those, I feel that way. What do you mean? The exact thing that you described. Because you didn't come from money. No, I mean, I got very easy, incredibly privileged, grow, you know, childhood growing up. Not what you're doing now. Your parents weren't doing what you're doing now.

And my parents were, my parents owned a dance studio. They taught partner dancing, you know, but they made some really cool, awesome decisions. My mom was fucking great. But, uh, but I, I, we, they were essentially financially illiterate. They never taught me about, like, stocks or any of these types of things. Like, I didn't know about that kind of stuff. So I'm so insecure when talking about that stuff. And I'm terrified when even talking to like business managers because I don't want to pretend that I don't know what I'm talking about.

But at the same time, I don't want to be so vulnerable that I'm like, hey, do whatever you guys want. So I have no, you know, so I'm asking my friends. My friends help me. But I relate to that. Like that is a generational thing. There are certain my friends that, like, we're investing when they're fucking teenagers. Right. And this is what you said.

You know, you said your dad and mom known the dance studio. So my mother was a custodian and a security guard and my father was dead. So you think about how many people fought that look like me, they come from where I come from, that that's their reality. So where do you start? Like, where do you even start?

We have to, I'm creating the blueprint as I go. So where did you start? That's why I hate comedians, yeah. Why? Because comedians can take hard lefts and it's such a deadpan delivery. And you're like, what am I supposed to do with that? Yeah.

My mom was a custodian. The same thing I did do with it, niggas make it work. The fuck wrong with you. What are you supposed to do with it? Luckily for you, You're fighting the cause. Leonard,

your daddy is fighting the California games and shit. Like, you didn't have that be your reality. You weren't supposed to do anything with it, like it was my job to do something with it. That's what I'm saying. Like, I had to make something of the reality. And I'm an example now that I can utilize myself as an example for people who come from

my background and go through what I've been through to you be an example. So I'm curious, like how do you start to make money? like one, how do you make sure that all your deals are right? Who are you going to? Who are you talking about this? I mean, you don't. You get, you get, you get blessed with people. Yeah, you get blessed with people like my manager over there.

Like, she's a godsend for me because she grew up in the industry. So she understands certain terminologies and lingoes that I had no knowledge. You have to establish trust. That's the biggest thing. That's the lack of trust. That's you have to find. So this is what's so interesting to me is that you have to establish trust. and then imagine one of those people that you trust,

obviously this would not happen with you, but screws you over and multiple people that you trust screw you over. What do you do? You got to keep going. You got to keep going and learn from that mistake. But what do a lot of people do? They make their circle incredibly tiny. Oh, I still do that.

What I'm trying to do is describe what I think happened at Kyrie, which is everybody's out here trying to give you a deal. Everybody's trying to help you out. And all of a sudden, you can screw it over by one thing. You're not getting what you want over here. You're not giving the opportunity over there. and you're vulnerable to what's going on. Now, I think Kyrie came from decent background, right?

As far as I'm not, I really don't know anything about Kyrie. I don't know that. Well, I guess what I'm saying is I understand, even personally, like the vulnerability I would feel if I put my trust in you with something that I'm telling you I don't fucking know about. And then I find you took advantage of me? I wouldn't trust nobody after that. Or maybe Kyrie's just learning new information, man.

He's trying to find a knowledge yourself. I'm trying to have everything for the guy believing the fucking earth is flat and for, you know, believe in these documents. I love all my flat earth friends, okay? You just have a debate about the earth being flat and keep moving. I'm not trying to convince nobody.

I don't know what the earth is. And that's the biggest thing that nobody ever wants to say, I don't fucking know. No, that's my favorite thing to say is I don't know. I have no clue because I'm not, I know. How do you know? I know.

How do you know? It's round. How do you know anything? I know it sounds. Think about the reality of that. The most of the information. information that you have comes from somebody else who got the information and reciprocated it to the world. Yeah. So how do you ever really know anything? Is it round like a ball or round like, um, the head of

this bottle? Stop, stop. Stop. I was going to say the head of this bottle, Chico. Because you know you, man, you, bro, need to stop with the bullshit, man. Nobody, that's another thing. I was going to say the head of the bottle, you know, another thing that most people never do. This is a, yeah, you to fucking stop, man. These niggas come sit beside you and just let you just say all of this just outlandishly. Paul's worthy shit. And don't say nothing. This is ridiculous. I am a paul girfer.

You know what I'm saying? It's ridiculous, man. It's non-stop. Now, look what you've made his Hans Landa do. You made it go full, you made this shit go full German right there, man. It's ridiculous. Oh, flip it back. Flip it back.

Oh, my God. What the fuck was that, Sean? I don't know, bro. You are going to make so many conspiracy theories come. I got to put horns on that shit, bro. Flip it back, man. Jumping back out. Oh, man.

That was crazy, though. But we do, we don't pause here. We fast forward, jeez. No, listen, that's right. We fast forward. Because when you pause, you want to see. When you pause, you're like, yeah, keep right there. Exactly.

You pause me as you stop right there. We're trying to get to the next one. The fact that I know that you have had a. an in-depth conversation about that point right there's the problem. Wait, what are you describing with this? This, you. This is what I mean. This is exactly what I mean.

This is the point that I make it. Y'all do this shit all the time. You know what? Oh, my God. What is constructing in this studio? Let's just stop and keep it here. Oh, man. Because we don't need, I don't want to see it happen.

I don't want to see my guys on a list like this. Like, it's coming. You think so? No, I mean, I think. I think you might be, well, Shaltz is white, so it's different. Yeah. Like, he has a, he has a, I'm allowed to be more gay. He has, yes, you are.

Dude, white people are more gay. Yes, that you are, I mean, you are definitely allowed to you, what do they say, the complexion for protection? Oh, it's not. You're working your way towards that, Chico. You're working your way towards having that complexion. You're going through the process. You know what I mean.

You've become more gay. Now they've got like skin, bro. You have become more gay. You know what you are, y'allet? Say what? I'm being. Say what? You know, nah, son.

You know what you are? It is. 21 Saturdays in that shit, though. Bank gay like the ointment? You are, you are trans dark skin. That is fast facts, bro. I'm offended. Yeah, you should be.

But I'm just saying, it's different levels of things that happen over here. That'd be funny. For the trans dark skin people would be protesting outside Chico's show. Yeah. Listen, please. Might happen. Oh, man. Let's pay some bills.

Moral of the story is, man. We just got to fix this shit, man. More conversations between everybody. Yes, more conversations. Especially black people and Jewish people. Let's do it. Today's episode is brought to you by Squarespace. Squarespace is the all-in-one platform for building your brand and growing your business online.

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Izzy, Izzy. So make sure if you don't already have tickets for that, go do that. I love the fact that one, that's my boy. He's also my favorite fighter. So to have him in my city, you know, I want to make sure this is an absolutely amazing event. Izzy, my own boydop, Red loves Izzy. Because he's a big UFC MMA guy. Who?

My boyd off, his name is Ray. Oh, yeah. He loves it. He literally asked me to have Monday. Is Izzy coming this week? I'm like, Izzy. Could I forgot? Yeah.

I was like, oh, yeah. Well, after he whoops his guy's ass, you should definitely have him on, man. I'd love to have him. But now, Izzy's the man. Make sure you watch this fight. And he fights, and I think the most entertaining style, especially for MMA, if you're not as familiar with all the grappling stuff. So his background is kickboxing, Muay.

So it's tons of striking. He's going up against a guy who's also a prolific striker. And it's just going to be an amazing card. Go out there, get it, support him. He's a fucking great dude. Chico, got any church in albums? Sholes. Yeah, plenty of them, man.

I'm at the Foxwoods Casino coming up, man. And then the Wilburne. Not this weekend, next weekend. The Wilburty in Boston. Amazing. Yeah, I'm at the Wilber Theater in Boston. I'm excited about that too because I've never done Boston by myself before. Every time I went, it was either a while or now that we did the 85 up there.

But, you know, Boston to me is, you know, a mecca of comedy. Absolutely. So, so many greats that came out of Boston. So, you know, I'm just excited to going up there and working. Of course, you know, we got the 85. We in Milwaukee, Thursday, Chicago, Saturday. Where are you guys over there? I mean, I just love you to see you guys do these.

You're doing a aren't. Yeah, we're in the Win Trust. The Win Trust. Yeah, we had to win trust arena. Dude, it's so motivation, bro. You know, we got that coming up. And then, you know, I got a new year show that I'm excited about with D-ray in Chicago, another one in Chicago.

That's a hometown. Every crown, every crowd theater, man. So, you know, we got a bunch of stuff coming up. We got something special with the 85 in Atlanta and December as well. Wow. You know, I got a show. Check out the 85 South Show live, man. Nothing smoking.

What you guys do is incredibly unique for our. a live show. Right. I mean, there are components of it that I don't think you see anybody else doing. Yeah. I all have ever done in that regard. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like just being able to get on stage and, you know, have three people who individually do the same thing, but share the spotlight in that regard. Rift, chemistry, together. Yeah. Yeah. Music. It's really like. Incorporation of other artists, you know what I mean, all different types of stuff. And the crowd. Yeah, and the crowd. I love to see you guys work in the crowd. I mean, it's like,

that's one of the most impressive things because, like, the bigger the crowd get, it still feels like y'all make it seem into it. I don't know how to fuck y'all do that. I mean, just because it's, you know, people are intimately involved with the, you know, just the whole product.

And you have all different types of people who are there that are there to specifically feel like they're part of the show. You know what I mean? And I think that's one of the biggest draws to us is that we, you know, utilize the fact that we don't stay with each other. We talk shit about each other.

We join us. each other. We have fun. We talk about everything. So when you come, you're a part of, like, you're coming in here to separate yourself from everything that's going on outside, and you come in here, you're free to do and say whatever you want to do and say while you're here with us. And then it just creates a great experience.

I mean, like, when I was growing up, I mean, I might be a little older than you. But I remember seeing the Kings of Comedy in the movie theater when it first came out. Right. And we were fucking dying, laughing. This was before, I was probably too young to have a real idea of what stand-up exactly.

was. And I thought in that moment, I was like, these guys are just making everything up on the spot. And that was the expectation that I had for myself. I was like, I have to be this funny. These guys can be this funny, just kind of riffing. And I think that every generation has, like, their kings, especially in each, like, circuit that exists in comedy. And I've told you guys this before individually, but like, I think you guys are generations kings, man. Well, that's a compliment, man. And then, you know, because it's true. I look at it, like, imagine if the kings of comedy would have done that. And then at the end, in this show, they all came out together and did it.

That's a whole other movie. Yeah. So I think that's the element that we've incorporated. But they kind of did that a little bit, though. But there were moments in the kids. They were moments where they were playing cards. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's something to see.

And I think that's something that, you know, we utilize. But you're right, you know, you do have, each generation has their kings. And that's crazy that you say you watched them and thought that you had to be that funny. Like, because that's how I didn't know I wanted to be a comedian or I was going to be one. But I grew up, you know, in D.C.

watching. earthquake. Like that was my person, you know what I mean, like that I watched and I'm thinking that he making all this shit up right there. Right in the spot. And I'm like, that is, this is how funny you got. Not Donnell Rawlins? Donnell was no influence to you? I mean, later, why do you constantly throw Donnell

Rallens? Like, what did he do to you? Like, Godnelle, you're amazing. I'm going to tell a story about Donnell. Donnell hit me with the Hollywood shit one time. No. True story. So we shot a show called Guy caught together, right? I remember God You remember guy court? Yeah, he was a judge. He was a judge on a guy court.

So I'm out in L.A. And when I'm out in L.A., I walk up. I'm like, man, what's up with you, brother? He's like, and walk off. I'm like, damn, Sam, you don't, you don't remember me? Then he sees me talking to somebody else that came back. It was like, oh, yeah, yeah, my bad, bro. I thought you were somebody else.

But ever since then, every time I see him, always remind him. But that same thing with DJ. You told me that. That's why I give him hell all the time. That's not the reason why you give him hell all the time. You just give him hell all the time because you like to give him. Envy. never remembers me.

Like this, me. What are you talking about? Every time I see Emmy, what's your name again, bro? Hey man, yeah,

good luck in your career, bro. I appreciate you. Every time I see him. Well, I'm excited to come to see you out of the bar. Talks some shit, bad,

because this nigga of me, if you remember me tomorrow when I'm by myself. That's right. My church announcement simple. Make sure you pick up summer 85.

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Thank you to everybody who's already grabbed it. And hell of a week, new episode this Thursday, 1130 p.m. on Comedy Central. This week we got Ida Rod Regis, my man, Neil Brennan. And D.L. Hugley is all one-on-one conversation. Oh, that's a, an announcement? What? What is it called? Church announcement.

Neil Brennan's got a new special on Netflix. Everybody go check out Blocks on Netflix. I've seen it. It's fucking hilarious. And I think you guys really enjoy it. Man, Neil funny is fuck. He's great. He's been funny.

Neil been funny since that. Three Mikes is one of my favorite comedy special. I still haven't seen anybody do what he did on Three Mice because Three Mikes was his tweets. Yeah. Things he tells his therapist. And then just jokes. Jokes. Like, that shit is great.

I haven't seen Block Shet. Him and Shepel made a great partnership. They did some dope shit. They really did. All the way. All the way. I made some amazing shit. together, man. Once again, black man, white man. Yeah. I don't think Neil's Jewish, right? It's not Jewish, is he? No. Yeah, black, I'm saying, still,

listen, nobody's perfect, bro. What? Some guy here is a legend, man. The legendary. This guy is so fucking crazy. But no, black man, white man come together, make something great. I think that we are fucking keeping ourselves from making dope shit because it feels like all of us are getting so goddamn tribal. You know what I mean? And it's nothing wrong with being tribal with you. It's nothing wrong with being tribal. your tribe having your people, but don't, man, just don't insulate yourself from, like, being able to build with other folks. Don't just assume you know what somebody else is on. Absolutely. I agree with that. I mean, I think that you can, you know, you can make magic with anybody who makes magic. You know, I mean, you just got to be able to understand, you know,

whatever your strength is and my strength is, let's come together and make it work. So I'm all, I love all people because it's, you know, it don't matter what the race of a person is. It's, it's white people that's cool, you know, it's black people that I wouldn't, nigga, fuck away from me. You know what I mean? So it just depends on who it is and how you treat people. You know what I mean? The content of your character, as they say, that's the most important aspect. Let's run through some headlines, man.

This was some bullshit. What's that? People mad at LeBron for saying the incorrect year. LeBron was at a press conference. We could play the clip here. Yeah, leave the guy along, bro. I've been listening to those guys for so long. I was listening to those guys when my first year with the heat in 2010.

And you can ask any one of my teammates back then They had no idea what Amigos was They were like cursing me out When I would play it throughout the weight room Or play it throughout the locker room I was like I'm telling you these guys are next I'm letting you know right now these days Like turn this off

I'm not going to hear this LeBron has been in the league for almost 20 years I get years wrong all the time I'd be like yo I was 30 31 It's a year on In defense of LeBron Like that's LeBron James Yeah

In 2010, he was LeBron James. Like, for example, I've been listening to Drake since 2005, 6. Yeah. Because I watched DeGrassey. You know what I mean? And I seen, I was like, oh, that's the nigga from DeGrassey rapping. Let me see what he was rapping about. Because the world hasn't come into it.

That doesn't mean that he's LeBron James. He could have been. He's LeBron. Like, do you know if I'm going to hand my CD to anybody? Well, the Migos weren't the Migos, though. It don't matter. You know what I mean? He could have been listening to whoever they were at.

time because you go to it, you know, he LeBronty, he goes to Atlanta. When he go to Atlanta, whoever the guy is, if they have access to him, hey, man, these my new young boys, check them out. I heard Migo's in 2011. Migo's first mixtape came out like around 2011. It was the jug, the jug mixtape. Right. And that's the first time I heard Migos.

But either way, it's like he was off by a year. Even let's just say he did what he goes right and he got some music early. But let's just say he just was off by a year. Y'all crucifying LeBron for that. Well, no, these people just hate LeBron. They're ready for Bron to retire, bro. You know what they say? They say you either die a hero or live long enough to lose your hairline and be a villain.

They ain't never said that part. They ain't never said the headline part. You disrespectful that a motherfucker. Yeah, I mean, you got your way. I don't have one either, Chico. Yeah, well, I do a little bit now, so I know that that's what you just do. Of course, man. You see my shit.

Oh, shit. Did you get? No, no. Really? No, I've got to got that. I ought to be a motherfucking model. right now. Leave you.

You ever thought about it? Hope my shit don't never grow bad. God wouldn't do that to me. Would you? You ever thought about it? No, I couldn't do it. I thought I had. I started the process.

You did? The PRP shit. That shit hurt too bad. No, I couldn't do it. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait. Yeah, PRP. They draw your blood.

Rich. Yeah. It's like platelet rich. I don't know. Slooted my, smoothed to Dr. Natasha Sandy. She'd just be experimenting on me. Plasma. Plasma.

Plasma. Plasma. Plasma. Yeah. So she draw your blood, and then they draw your blood, and then they, like, shoot it back into the spots in your head that's bald. Yeah. That shit hurt too bad, though, bro.

Getting fucking shots in your head? I couldn't go through it, that shit. Oh, no, yeah. I'm definitely not getting no shots in my head. My shit already swollen enough. But what I'm saying is I could never, I could never cheat. Whoa, whoa, whoa, bro. Hey.

Hey, dude. I didn't hear the woe in that. I ain't hear that. I mean, I have a small. I have a big head. Pause. Do you say it was throbbing? I didn't know.

That's what you heard. That's what you heard. That's what you heard. That's what you're. That's what you're. Batman. Batman and thrombin? The fact that his mind works back quick or shit like that.

How you didn't say that before? His mind works so quick on that type of shit. He'd be waiting on it, man. That was crazy. You know what I mean? That means it's probably. I'm right. Who's the supervillain though, bro?

The poker. That is wrong. What the fucker? This nigger. Somebody's definitely about to make that online. This man is... We are going to make it online. Yeah, this man right here, man.

Oh, my goodness. But, yeah, get off LeBron. You all just ready for Brian to retire, man. It happens, though. He's been around for a long time. You think he should retire? No. No.

You say you're waiting on his son, but I... Yeah, I think he should play as long as he can. You know what I mean? Keep stretching the legacy out, man. Don't let anybody else project. the ability not to be able to do that great shit on the U. Keep planning. If Tom Brady's still playing, he's 45,

you keep doing it for us, doing it on our side. And rest of the peace to take off to me, you know, it's crazy. It's like, Emigo's been around for the past 11 years, right? And it's like, we all knew they were like the best group of the generation. You know, it wasn't a lot of hip-hop groups, you know what I mean? But what they did, the rap, they did change rap, right? Like, in a lot of ways.

I'm going to say change, but they were. I'm going to say change, but they bought back. They bought a different sound because, you know, that sound of rap really comes out of Memphis. Yes, 36. That's right. That's right. That's right. That, you know, that style of rap, but they took it to another level.

They made it mainstream and bought it back to a younger generation who probably had never heard three six before. That's right. So, yeah, they definitely changed the sound of rap. And take off was incredible. That's a story. For someone who doesn't remember that I understand. It's a name for it. I can't remember the name.

I can't remember the name the exact name of it, but it's a style of, you know, the Sending the 10 of the boat, six sitting in the ten of them. You know what I mean? Lower infamous from the three six mafia, a bunch of people from Memphis, they created that style, that specific style of rap.

And they bought it back. And then the Migos came, you know what I mean, and took it to a whole other level. I didn't know that. But what bugs me out about this is like, why do we always got to wait until somebody died and say they're the greatest?

Now all of a sudden they're like, oh, Amigos is the most legendary group and take off was the best lyricist from the Migo. I'm like, I mean, I just think, That happens, especially in our community. I mean, I say this all the time.

I don't think Martin Luther King would have a street in America if he was still alive. Damn. You know what I mean? I think the reason why Jesse Jackson doesn't have one is because he's still alive. Damn. I think it's just easier for you to get flowers, as they say, when you're not here to be able to walk up on somebody and make them feel less than them because you got them. As crazy as that may sound. We put value on scarcity.

Yeah, exactly. And there's nothing more scarce than being gone. Than being gone, right, exactly. So I think that that's just what it is. I think death is so final that it's easy for me to give you everything that you. Because, you know, like you said, when you're living, you might fuck up the legacy. Yeah, yeah. And when you're gone, it's over with now.

Whatever you do, when you pass away, whatever it is you did is done. So, you know, everybody that's still walking around, they have the ability to be able to do some shit that scale their legacy back. Because think about it, you know, if, God forbid, I don't want to wish death on nobody like, you know, you'd be doing the money. motherfuckers and shit. But, uh, I never wish death on nobody. I did, go. That was nasty. I never wished that was nobody.

I don't even play with them. That was nasty. No way, man. Yeah, you play with the poker. But, uh, you know, like, figuratively speaking, let's say if, you know, uh, you know, R. Kelly would have died in the 1999. Oh, wow.

It would have been considered to be the hero, the greatest. Yeah. But now that he's lived long enough to fuck his legacy up, then, you know, I think that's why you don't see people get their flowers until they die in the way that they do when they die. And I hate seeing them young brothers go so young, man. Yeah, that shit sucks. I mean, coming from a community with, you know, I've lost a lot of friends and family,

the violence, man, to know that, you know, from the story that we have heard, I don't know what actually happened, but to know that he was just there. You know what I mean? He was just there. But, you know, the thing about death that I understand and dealing with it so much is it's guaranteed to all of us. So we don't get to pick how we come or how we go. So I just think that we need to, it's unfortunate.

And the way that he went out is, I think that we need to start having a better relationship with death, because death is a problem for the living. You know what I mean? Like, it's a living issue. Like the dead people who are dead don't have no more issues. So I think we need to start learning how to have a better relationship with it while we're still here. That's a hard thing, man.

My man, Ryan Holiday gave me this coin. And the coin literally says you are going to die. Yeah. And it's like, he's like, yo, you should carry this with you and look at it because it helps you to appreciate every single moment. Tattoo, Memento Mori Amofati. It's a stoic mantra that says, remember death, love your fate, which means understand that it's inevitable. It's the most guaranteed is for everybody to have. Everybody is going to die one day.

So you have to love the fact that that's your reality and live in it and enjoy every moment that you have. I need 99, bro. Let me ride out the 99. I want to see this shit play out, bro. Hell yeah. I want to see it. Yeah, yeah, I want to see it. I want to see it.

I want to see it. You know what I would, you know, and the thing is, it's just like the fact that we don't get to choose that fate. Like, and I always ask people, if you knew the day that you were going to die, how would you live? You know what I mean? Like, or, you know, just in regards to money and how much emphasis we put on having money. Like, if I said, hey, man, I got a billion. I got that $1.9 billion for you in the jackpot that's coming, but you die tomorrow. Would you take it?

You don't want it But if you had the 1.9 And they told you, you would die tomorrow but it calls 1.9 and say your life, how quick would you give it up? I get him a little.

I mean, where you're going to die? I keep that point nine. Yeah, you got to take the whole thing. That's not the awful. That's not the awful. We can't negotiate?

No, you can negotiate. It's the nigga that touched Uncle Charles four head standing in front of you. That's who you, that's who you're talking to and that's the deal, G.

You're probably getting mad that I even offered you oh you want to go shake bow you're out of here black eyes you know oh man and you know what I was thinking so I was like damn takeoff was 28 to perform at take all's funeral is that real? I don't believe that's real he might sing a ballad or something I can see that

but if takeoff was 28 I'm like I've been interviewing them guys since they were 16 17 18 18 yeah wow I didn't come into breakfast clubs it's like 20 wow 2012 yeah 2013 like we got Migo's interviews we never put out really Yeah, because they were, they were so young and they just weren't good.

It wouldn't have put them in a good light. You know what I mean? I'm glad did y'all do that. Like, I always wondered if that happened. Oh, a lot of time. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. You know what I mean?

I didn't know if that was the case. I'm still sitting on a Paul Mooney interview right now that we never put out. God bless the day. Why is that? Was it? Paul was in there wilding. And listen, now this was. You think we're crazy.

This is when I didn't even have a good sense. And I have been to plenty of Paul Mooney's show. So if I was in on making a decision not to put it out, then he must have been really wilding. And I keep saying to myself, I need to go back and listen to that interview and see what he was saying. That made you not, that made you like put an interview out. You have said some of the most outlandish shit on the microphone. That was said, man.

Yeah, you do say wow. That was, that never happened. That shit you were talking about Batman before it was crazy. What? You did. You always bring up gay shit for no fucking reason, man. Yo, what the fuck is wrong with you talking, man? Shut up.

What was that shit? Who would you say was the best villain again, the didler or whatever? The didler. The titler! Oh, yo. Two-faced would be wild for a threesome, right? Yo, it won. Imagine getting head from Toothace.

Like, yo, turn to the left. You turn to the right, right? Elon Musk says Twitter will permanently. Come on, G. Come on, G. Come on, G. Do you see what you're doing to your people in here, man? The fact that they need money bad enough to have to sit in here.

I listen to this shit every week. My nitsch. Like, bro, you just listen. There are other options for y'all, my name. I don't even know what y'all do. But as soon as y'all start talking, this nigga thing, again, these fucking guys here. This shit is, hey, man, Dominican, Puerto Rican man. Listen.

Let me tell you something, man. You don't have to listen to this shit all the time, man. These two motherfuck or something wrong with them. It's just fun, bro. It's not fun. A lot of people don't know this. The comic book characters are homosexual. That's the initial idea behind you.

Really? Iron man. Oh. Word. Word. You guys have developed this. No, it's true. It's just so what them are.

Who did you ask? Stan Lee, bro. Stan Lee told you. The whitest Asian ever, bro. Yeah. Stan Lee told you that all the comic book characters are based on homosexuals. Are based on homosexuals. Yes.

Based on home. X-man, bro. I used to be a man now. You know what I'm saying? I can't believe you didn't know this. I'm just saying this. It's an allegory for the LGBT community. Yeah, yeah.

I think y'all the only two that do. Think about it, Beast. You know what I mean? The Hulk can control itself. You know what's so funny? You could literally put, listen, you could put dick after so many of their names. And then what happened? And it was like, like, iron dick, right?

Yeah. The incredible dick. The mighty dick. You know what I'm saying? Captain Dick. Black Dick. Come on, Chico. Super Dick.

Hey, my name. My name. Hey, yo. Let me tell you something. What camera am I on? Which camera in my own? You're a man, man. Let me tell you something, America.

Let me tell you something, America. This is not me. I'm not here. This never happened. This never happened. This is the representative of me. I'm not sitting. right here with these two motherfuckers right now

because they don't understand that this this is ridiculous man it's ridiculous let's do some askin idiots Taylor man Jesus Christ get up out of here man salute to Elon Musk though Elon Musk out here I don't even I mean listen I don't even think 90% of what's happening on Twitter

is real right now nobody cares about Twitter I think that Elon got on Twitter and I think that a lot of this shit is botched I'm not saying that you know people aren't on there being racist and being anti-Semitic but I don't think it's as crazy as they're trying to make about to be. Like I just, I really think a lot of this shit is botched because it's people. He said it's actually less. I think it's, I think that what I think is happening on Twitter,

because you know, you got black Twitter and then you got, you know, we just tuned in the black Twitter. But if there's a black Twitter, then there also has to be a white Twitter. And I just think that now, for some reason, those lines have got crossed and that, you know, it's just like if you were a liberal that you turn on Fox News, you have no idea that they're talking about these people this way. Like you had no clue. Like, this is the shit day. Like, I do that.

I do that all the time. Like, I just watch Fox News when I'm into. It's fire, bro. It's so entertaining. The conversation is on the other side. And when you go on the other side of Twitter, the same way that we're hilarious on black Twitter, if you go to white Twitter and you look at some of these tweets, some of this shit is brilliantly racist.

Yeah. Like, it's like, man, oh, my God, you can't even be mad at that because it's so far. Yeah. It's just what it is. So I think that now that he got it for some reason is, I don't know, maybe he opened up the gate that was blocking. Some of his bots, Chico, I think we forget Coyntel Pro was real sometime. And like, like, they want to keep us arguing. They want to keep us.

That's how they keep us on these sites for mad long. You'd be on there fighting with motherfuckers for 12 hours. I refuse. I'm not, I haven't been on Twitter in four years. I refuse. Wow. They got a new app out now, what is it, Macedon. It's like Twitter.

Really? Yeah, a lot of people are gravitating towards that now, Massadon. I'm not doing no new ones. Yeah, yeah, it's a new one. I can't, I can't, you know, I'm lucky in the regard that my social media, you know, my consumption of social media never overtook the shit that I wanted to do prior to social media coming out. So now that I've got to a point of success to where I can do things, I'm now still in, you know, enthralled in the shit that I wanted to do when I,

when social media didn't exist. So, you know, I get lucky in that regard that I don't, you know, my information is not so, you know, I don't think anything wrong with it personally, but I just still like to, you know, like I still sometimes go to the place that the bill that I'm paying, I still go to the electric company and pay my bill. You know what I mean? Like, I still do that.

Like, it's just because I remember when not having the ability to do that was something that I always look forward to. Like, man, one day I'm going to walk in here and pay this motherfucker for the whole year. Yeah. And they're going to see my face. And it's just like, I think that to curb social media. You got a very conservative Instagram.

You know what I mean? Yeah, nah, that's just, that's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. Because it's like, you know, real life is still real life to me. And I just don't ever want to, I feel like if you give too much of yourself to any social platform, once that social platform goes, you go with it. I agree. You know what I mean? You're going to die with it. So I think that, you know, outside will always be outside. So still try to find ways to, you know, utilize the social media, but make sure you're utilizing it in ways where it doesn't affect you going outside. Share is dating somebody that's 40 years younger than her. I don't see what the problem is with this, man.

I mean, it's just one of those devil's standard things because, you know, I saw a meme that said it was like an old, old-ass fat white man with a young model-looking chick. And it said to women, it said, if you want to show your daughters why they should study, show them this picture. And then I said, for men, if you want to show your sons, why they should study, show them this picture. Yeah. So it's just one of those things. It's rare you see it in reverse. Yeah, you see what I'm saying? The same thing.

It's just like, I think we rarely see it in this regard. So I think that's why they say it, they're saying it because you rarely see a old woman with money publicly go out and, you know, look for a young man. So I salute to that brother. What's his name, man? Is his name Alexander? Yeah. Salute to Alexander, man. Alexander out here getting super freaky grandma lit.

Leaving it in too. You just, you know the trick she probably knows. she's been fucking since like the 50s. Oh, yeah. And she's tricking heavy. Oh, man. I know she tricked it. Oh, my God.

I'll buy yourself a new fan of baby. She probably know how to do some shit that was popular when the Wop was new. I don't know. But to that point, I don't know if she's still got the athletic ability to pull a lot of them. You don't need it. Lay down. Lay down. That's all.

Let's see the freaking grandma take it from here. Lay down, baby. I'm going to lock that door when I'm done. Lay down. What else we got, Taylor? Oh, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now. What? This is some shit I want to see.

What's that? Kodak Black versus 21 Savage. Let me tell you something. I love Kodak in a versus. I love Kodak Black and I love 21 Savage. Those are two of my favorite rappers of this new generation. Oh, yeah. That is one I want to see because 21 Savage said nobody that was on the freshman cover with him can beat him in a versus.

Oh, I think nobody from their versus Claren't beat me. I mean, that fresh recover beat me in our work. Nobody. Who are the kids? Anderson, Pact. Anderson Pack. Yes, a whole bunch of Kodak. Kodak the best.

The only one that's the only one that's a really. Man, they playing. Yeah, what's a lot of time? Oh, oh, oh, so, so you can beat Lil Uzi? Little Uzi vert, Lil Yadi, Kodak Black, Denzel Curry, G Herbo, Dave East, little Dickie, designer, and Anderson Pack. Anderson Pack? Anderson, come on.

I mean, that's what I was about to say. Do we not count Anderson Pack? No, no, no, no, no. You know what I mean? Oh, Ben, you lose. You lose, he brings out Bruno Mars. Yeah, we're not doing that. I mean, I mean, hey, Oxy too.

Black versus 21. Ouse too. Ouse too. Ouse is. I think UZ is a different type, too. No, Ozy got them. Uzi got... You think Uzi and 21 would be a good versus?

Uzi versus anybody. Uzi, man, niggas out for some reason. And G. Herbo too. G. Herbo is, man, everybody shake their head. I love Herbo. That's my God. Y'all got, like, you got a look at the verses. The way did it work.

You see what Kiss did on the verses? Yeah. Herbo could do that. Herbo got versed man. Got, no, a couple niggas that's down the ride for a homicide when he's drama time. Run up on a nigga with them llamas flying. Leave his love ones all traumatized.

One 50. I'm really with it. I drop his ass in. Then forget it. I'm the man around my side of town might see a bitch and forget I hit it. Lord baby, you're on the track with me. More mistake. And he clapped 50 when I hit the scene holes going saying because they know a nigga got them racks with me.

No velcro but the strap with me. Let a nigga want to act silly. I'ma let it off and then leave them there. Ride off and don't even care, bitch. I cash out till I pass out. Got a couple truths I don't even wear. In the game, bitch, I do my thing. I scream my name.

I ain't even there. Lord Irb boy, I do's this. A bitch weather than a pool pit. And I make bands like I make brands, but some brave bands on some cool shit. But now's back to some killer shit. Got some wild holes that'll drill a bitch. There's no limit 30 years running 30 years gunning, then we still a shit. I never run because I stay and fight out.

Cook a nigga like steak and rice and it's hell of real in the battlefield. Gang bang got to pay the price. Hit a nigga with the 45th better make his ass do 40 flips. M-O-B, I don't love a hole. I'm gonna beat his way till I'm 46. Matter of fact, till a nigga die. Smoke cush blunts till a nigga cry. And I never feed off another man because I understand how a nigga lie.

Never snitch on a nigga dry. Yeah, that's high. I got a young bitch on a passenger. She's gonna suck and fuck if I get a high. If I do the dash, then I whip a fly. Forn shit with a ride. ever snooze and let a nigger try. Got the nine root root on the nigga side.

Listen. Let's go Herbo. Listen. Let's go Herbo. Listen. Let's go Herbo. Fuck up. He ain't fucking with 21 of black.

You know what I mean? And I love Herbo. I mean, nah. When you do that and when you're able to do that. I get what you're saying. Turn the mic. How many people had heard Kisses freestyle before he did it on verses? Nobody knew you had to be a KISS fan to know.

Yeah. That was a classic one though. When he turned that beat off, but the world is watching versus. When he turned that beat off. and went in on that that was like you got to incorporate that everybody say versus but that is the

he's the pussy you dick y'all exactly like that shit right there is shit you got to account for and that's why I get verbal the ability to do that don't sleep on Kodak though when they come to that right got hits

I personally think I personally think Kodak win I think so Kodak I love 21 and Kodak I mean if you talk about just straight individual songs now features then it's tough because 21 got

classic features. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? But like I think that just straight up solo songs, Kodak got them hits. And then it's like Kodak didn't been so influential to the culture. Like Cardi B is the beneficiary of Kodak Black.

That's right. You know what I mean? Let me drive the boat. That's Kodak Black. Like Kodak Black is, he don't get the credit he deserved. They don't get them young boys the credit they deserve. I'm gonna be honest.

I'm looking at this fucking double X L. Unbelievable. It's one of the best ones. Unbelievable. I never even, I never thought of a little oozy, Little Yadi, Kodak, Denzel, Curry, Herbo, Dave East, Dickie, Design, and Anderson Pack, every single one of them has had success.

Yeah. Every single one. Yeah. And still going. Every single one. Well, designer's not still going. Designers saw 20 million records, though. I mean, but he's not going as strong as the, a lot of hours.

Yeah, yeah, you don't have the catalog. The catalogs, like he'd be able to be in the verses, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, you don't have a catalog, but I mean, still, a panda. You know, most people don't get a record like Panda in their career. I think the greatest, I think the person, my personal favorite one was the one with, uh, with Waleigh, was it Waleh, Meeke Meal. It was one that, I mean, guys have kind of reached like legendary status. Cole was on that one.

Whichever one. I feel like Kendrick was on that one too, right? Yeah, I think that's the one. I think that might be my favorite one that one right there. Taylor, let's do some asking idiots, man. What we got? Okay. Oh, this is the good one for Chico Bean.

Because ain't nobody clean is Chico Bean. What was that? Symold Shem says, who do y'all take fashion inspiration from? Me? Oh, man. My Aunt Mary was my biggest fashion inspiration, honestly. Really?

Yeah, my Aunt Mary got rest. It was the flask person I ever met in my life. Like the fur coach in D.C.? I mean, she was, oh, my God. And that's where I take most of my influence from the city. You know, growing up in D.C., we had our own clothing lines. We had our own, it was its own world. So the madness, the shooters, the all days,

all of those different clothing lines within the city. is, who has shaped our culture. So we get a lot of shit that got stole from us that we don't get credit for. Like the Nike boot, like the niggas up here

and New York is trying to say they came out with, no, you didn't. We was doing that first and the phone posited and the new balance and everything else. But as far as famous,

it's like different errors. Like Fab is somebody, I always looked at, Iverson, back in the gap, DL on the suit game, on the suit side of the game. Who else?

Shit. God damn. That's a loaded question for me. It's a bunch of people, but, you know what I mean? I definitely say for show out of famous people, it would be fab, D.L. Hughley, and Alan Avison. What about you, Shultz? My wife dresses me, bro. Yeah, I got nothing for you right here. Who do I think, who I take fashion inspiration from? Oh, for real, too. I put for real in there. me. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. No, that's a, that's a tricky one. I always admire people that dress really well. Yeah, I couldn't even answer this question. Do I look inspired? No, not at all.

You never know. I can tell. I never seen you wear you a job. You get your fashion inspiration from correctional officers the way you tie your Timberlands. Like, you tie your Timmerlands like a correctional officer. I was like, boy, this nigga worked at Rikers Island on the weekends with them Tim's ties so tight. So yeah. Oh, man. C-C-O. Uh, oh, LJ. Hablachek, if you could relocate with unlimited funds anywhere, where and when would it be? Ooh, this is interesting. Ooh. Shultz?

The best weather all year around is Los Angeles. I could also surf there. That being said, there's some limiting things about Los Angeles. I don't know. I would live in two places. I'd spend summers in New York, and then I'd spend winters either in Miami or. for L.A., assuming I'm still working, because I would still want to work, even if I have money,

I still want to do this. But it's just winter and New York can be rough, but I love summer in New York. People think I'm crazy for that, but... I love summer in New York, too. I love New York summers, man. I love New York as a city. People...

I don't understand how people don't love this city. I don't know, maybe it's because I'm from a city. But I love New York, especially in the summertime, man, New York nights in the summer, there's nothing like it, man. Yeah, who you got, Chico? If you could relocate with unlimited funds anywhere, where and when would it be? Oh, man.

Oh, that's unlimited funds. Shit. Houston. Really? Unlimited funds? Yeah. State taxes? Not Florida?

Florida? I ain't got no state taxes. No, not Florida. No, Houston. Houston, Texas. Just because of the culture down there. Like, whatever your unlimited funds is, you can double your unlimited funds in Texas. Because you look at a lot of the people in Texas that come out of Texas.

Those dudes are. filthy rich and never went platinum anywhere else. You look at the dude that own the turkey leg hut. You know what I mean? The motherfuckers is making the killing off turkey legs. It's so much you can do in Texas and never have to leave Texas. So I feel like if you go without unlimited funds

because everything's theirs, it's its own world. They got all of the natural resources there. They can separate. They could, that's the only, that's the only state in the union that can succeed and still make it. And don't they have like this huge military complex? Yeah, they got everything. and so I would say Texas, Houston, Texas,

to be unlimited funds, but worldwide, I do one in America and one in the world. America, I would say Houston and worldwide, I would probably say Switzerland. Really? Why Switzerland? Just because it's just the nicest white people I've ever seen in my life. Natural beauty.

And yeah, and then these are literally the nicest white people I have ever encountered. Like because, you know, in a, you only, I feel like you're only a nigger in America. Everywhere else you're American. You know what I mean? Like, when you go everywhere else, you're just in American. They don't look at us. We're only in America.

That's colorism all over the world, don't. I mean, but we're not treated the same way here. You're not. Yeah, yeah. As anywhere else in the world, the way we're treated here, we're not treated anywhere else in the world. But Switzerland to me was the, literally the nicest. I mean, they got locked up in Switzerland. You did?

Sweden, Sweden, Sweden. Sweden. No, no, I was Switzerland. Switzerland. And these was the, I mean, I'm talking about this genuinely friendly, helpful. You don't seem like you, I mean, this is very helpful people. That's an interesting point that you make that like, here, you're treated in a way. But when you leave, you're an American.

And not only you're an American, you're the ambassador of cool culture of America. Yeah. So now when you go there, you're almost kind of like a celebrity. Yeah, damn there. You know what I mean? The way they look at us because our culture is being broadcast. They've seen music videos. And it's like all the way.

Like when I went to Japan, like they was, you know, my God, touching your tattoos and Egypt and all that stuff. So the way we're viewed other places. Interesting. You know what I mean? And stuff that, you know, is offensive to us here. We don't even get mad at the people from over. Yeah, you know, they don't have any intent when they're rapping the song versus over here.

So I would say definitely Switzerland and Houston. Yeah, I would be, I would probably be in Kiyah. I would, I would, it would be two for me. It would be Kiwiw Island and South Carolina and definitely Anguilla. You would just live there. Anguilla. Now, you know what? I will say this.

I have never been to, I've been to Egypt, but I want to go to Ghana. I'm going to Ghana in December. And I want to go, I want to go to Ghana because I've heard so many beautiful stories about it. On the Ghana in December. So I think that if I, once I make it to Ghana or to that certain parts of Africa, I think my answer might change from Switzerland to Ghana. Yeah, I got some property in Ghana. I'm going to, I'm literally up there in December.

For real? Oh, yeah, I want to go over there. I got to get over there. I got to check that out. I think that's it, man. I think we did it, gang, gang. We did it. Chico, thank you, my brother.

Always a pleasure of building with you, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Again, camera four. You know what that nigga talking about. This is not Chico B. This is somebody else. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent,

you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But you think we're just a couple of idiots who don't know shit, you're right too. It's a brilliant idiot's podcast. Thank you for listening.