The Brilliant Idiots - Batting .500

Episode Date: May 10, 2024

In this episode of the Brilliant Idiots, Nyla Simone joins Andrew Schultz and Charlamagne Tha God dive into the ongoing drama between Kendrick Lamar and Drake. They break down the diss tracks these tw...o heavyweights dropped and take wild guesses about Drake's next chess move. Plus, they get into the nitty-gritty of street cred and how Instagram can make or break your rep. They can't help but notice the eerie silence from other artists when it comes to backing Drake in this showdown. They toss around ideas and speaking of hot topics, they tackle the sticky accusations thrown at Drake, like being labeled a creeper. They dissect Questlove's input and how the West Coast vibe adds spice to rap battles. And of course, they're not done until they dish out what they think Drake and Kendrick should do next. They discuss the latest drama involving DJ Vlad and Morgan Jerkins. And in a thoughtful twist, they round it all off with a chat about critical race theory and the importance of team harmony. Chapters 00:00 Celebrating the 500th episode of the Brilliant Idiots Podcast 01:27 Andrew's feelings after selling out Madison Square Garden 03:42 Andrew's experience with 50 Cent at Madison Square Garden 04:42 The impact of 50 Cent's support for Andrew 05:12 The release of Kendrick Lamar's diss tracks 09:28 Drake's response with the release of his diss tracks 11:21 The impact of the diss tracks on the music industry 15:13 The impact of the diss tracks on Drake's reputation 23:23 Speculating on Drake's next moves 26:29 The coordinated effort to take Drake down 30:13 Exploring strategies for Drake to regain credibility 35:21 The Lack of Support for Drake 39:53 The Impact of Public Perception 44:00 Drake's Handling of the Battle 53:22 The OVO Mole Theory 55:08 Kendrick's Victory Lap 01:04:03 The Significance of the West Coast Sound 01:09:38 The Controversy Surrounding Drake and Kendrick Lamar's Lyrics 01:11:04 The Importance of Proof in Rap Battles 01:11:29 The Impact of Diss Tracks on Artists' Careers 01:19:35 The Dynamics of the Comedy Central Roast 01:20:30 The Challenges of Performing Stand-Up Comedy 01:29:38 The Debate About Race and Representation in Hip-Hop Culture 01:44:00 Understanding Perspectives and Power Dynamics 01:46:36 Playing Positions in Team Building 01:57:44 Resentment and the Importance of Loving What You Do ************************************ Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks By Charlamagne Tha God (Pre Order) https://a.co/d/gpFlOol Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Alice Randall "My Black Country" Out Now! https://a.co/d/1VTFp9i Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" https://blackeffect.com Check Out "Summer Of 85" on Audible www.audible.com/pd/Summer-of-85-A…areTest=TestShare TaylorMade-It Production Contact: Taylormadeitprod@gmail.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Shalaman the guy. Andrew Stowe. We are the brilliant idiots podcast. Back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Yes, sir. And we are celebrating our 500th episode, baby. 11 years, one podcast a week. We've reached the milestone of 500, man.
Starting point is 00:00:18 We are podcast OGs, podcast veterans. All of y'all need to be sucking our dicks. Okay? No, dith. Don't use that against me later in a doth. this record. All right. NYLA is here. Let's go. You know. A lot to discuss, first of all. You also got a book out? It's out, May 21st. So by the time this, oh, no, no, no, no, no. May 21st. Yeah, my book will be in stores. Get honest or die lying. My third book,
Starting point is 00:00:47 get honest of dialing, why small talk sucks. You can go to why small talk sucks.com right now to pre-order, but also to see what city are being starting on May 22nd. I'm doing a small book tour starting on May 22nd. God bless. How do you feel, Schultz, man? Tired. Big weekend for you. You sold out Madison Square Garden twice.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Yeah. Then you flew to L.A. to do the roast of Tom Brady. Yeah. How do you feel? I feel really good, man. I feel really good. After Madison Square Garden, I was just like, yeah, I don't know. I felt very fulfilled.
Starting point is 00:01:21 It's not something I've felt that much in my career. I think that is the one time when you have big dreams, like a lot of times you focus. so much on what you want to accomplish and not like what you've done. So sometimes you feel like you're not accomplished, you know? And maybe unfair to yourself, but like after MSG, that was the only goal I really had in stand-up comedy. I was like, I just want to sell a Madison Garden.
Starting point is 00:01:46 And if I do that, then I've reached them out on top, in my opinion. And, yeah, I was even sitting on the roast there. And I was even, I was just like on the day, I was kind of looking around. I was like, I don't even care how this goes. like I it was it was just like and I never felt that like everything I'd done in my career up to that point was like oh they're gonna discredit me for everything if this doesn't go well yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but after that after I was like that was what I created my head as as as the mountain time you almost don't look right in those rooms no more I watched you on stage at that rose and I said look at all these peon never sold out the garden I said look at all these fucking peon and I said Andrew Shoste doing these peons of fables standing on stage with a bunch of motherfuckers who never sold out the garden twice.
Starting point is 00:02:37 I was like, look at him still keeping it real to the streets. Still giving it back to the comedy streets. I loved it. I'm like, there's only one, I'm not even joking. I was like, there's only one person up there who probably could do that. And that's Kevin Hart. And he's done it.
Starting point is 00:02:52 And he's done it. He's the only person. Tony Hinchcliff is doing his kill. Sony shows like the biggest show in the internet. They're doing it at MSG this summer. Oh, they are, they are. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. Sell out.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Yeah, I think they've sold it out. No, let's not give them that. No, no, no, I think, I think they've sold it. No, no, I think they've sold it. But it's not stand-up, though. It's like, it's a live podcast. It's a show that has, exactly, yeah, that has stand-up components. It's different than doing stand-out.
Starting point is 00:03:19 By the way, I love Kill Tony. I love Kill Tony. Only seen one episode. Yeah. And that's episode where they pissed Donnell Rallon's off. And you walked them off. Gokes to me. You made John L. Rollins walk off, got him pissed off.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Y'all are ghosts to me. Okay. All right. It is a great show. Y'all should check it out. But yeah, dude, it was, yeah, man. Then you bought out 50 Cent for the first night. That was so crazy, man.
Starting point is 00:03:44 I love seeing the enthusiast. First of all, we know 50's a comedy guy because 50's a funny dude himself. I like seeing the enthusiasm that 50 Cent has for Andrew Schultz. And I think that's what creativity does. When you see somebody take their career in their own hands, do things their way and achieve something like that, it inspires you. Yeah, yeah. And you can tell 50 Cent is inspired by what you're doing at the garden. I mean, I'm inspired.
Starting point is 00:04:12 You know what I mean? But for him to come to fucking New York? It was crazy. And he did a show. He did a mini concert. Bro, that was the cool, like doing all the hits. You know what I mean? Yayo, Uncle Murder.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Like, Uncle Murder. Like, I couldn't believe it. They asked us for three mics. I was like, what? Because I thought he was going to come out, you know, do whatever he wanted to do, I'm fine. If he just came out and he was like, yo, what's up? And then let's go home.
Starting point is 00:04:35 I'm cool with that. And they're like, yeah, we need three different mics. I was like, oh, what the fuck? Who's coming? Yeah, yeah. And then they put on a show and, yeah. Yeah, man. So Uncle Murder Friday night, it's a cool little video 50 cent posted with us backstage.
Starting point is 00:04:50 And Uncle Merrude said, Uncle Murda said something to me that did not age well. Talk to me. He said, Drake's up. Woo! Go watch the video. That's a hot day. He said, this was Friday night, though.
Starting point is 00:05:05 That's a hot day. This is for? So much happened Friday night. So much happened Friday. Yeah. So much happened Friday. He said, Drake's up. And it was all downhill from there, guys.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Yo, I remember Taylor coming up to me after. And she was like, you were very sweet. Congratulated me on the show. And then she goes, I have one more thing. I got to tell you. What's up? She's like, Kendrick dropped. No, no, who dropped? Drake dropped.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Drake dropped. And I was like, oh, tonight is a really crazy night. And mind you, Kendrick dropped earlier that day. He dropped the timestamp record. What was it, 616 in L.A.? Yeah, which was dope. Phenomenal record. I loved it.
Starting point is 00:05:45 The thing I loved the most about the record, I love strategy. So the fact that Euphoria dropped on Wednesday, and we was waiting for Kendrick to drop, but then he dropped Euphoria. And so people are probably thinking to themselves, we probably can get another Kendrick record in forever. It's a six-minute record.
Starting point is 00:06:00 He's probably going to let that live. But for him to go back to back, which is a Drake tactic, and give us 616 in L.A. But also, I know for a fact that when Drake heard that record, and Kendrick starts talking about how, you know, the OVO team,
Starting point is 00:06:16 there's a mole in OVO, and the mole is feeding him things, and did you ever think OVO is working for me? I know for a fact that OVO Mansion sounded like it was a bunch of owls in that motherfucker. Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? I know it. Without a shadow of a fucking doubt. I know that. So psychologically,
Starting point is 00:06:38 that had to fuck Drake up. But Drake is like, fuck that. We're going to drop family fucking matters later that night. Phenomenal record. We're not going to sit here and act like Aubrey Graham did not drop a phenomenal disc record in Family Matters. For the first, what did you think of the LA record, Nile?
Starting point is 00:06:57 They're not like us? No, the Earth 616 record, 616 in L.A. Is that the flip, the Kendrick Flip, buried alive? No. The one he dropped Friday afternoon. Like the soul sample. Oh. Naila, you're supposed to be the music expert.
Starting point is 00:07:12 You're supposed to be the music expert. I don't remember 616 because it's not the main record. Play 616 in L.A. That's the one where he was saying that OVO has a mold. Damn, this is the timeline of this shit? Yeah. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Family Matters. Phenomenal fucking record. I actually think it's probably the second best record in this whole situation. Really? Yes. What's the first best one? I mean, not like us. You gotta go, not like us.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Not like us? It's just a vibe. You don't over like that? Is like that on here? Family Matters is probably the best record. Not Like Us is the best song. There you go. Yeah, not like us is the best song.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Family Matters is the best distract. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not like us is the best bot. Not like us is the best bot. So Drake got the best disc track. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:57 But he didn't win. No. Correct. You lost because of strategy. You lost because of fucking strategy. But I think like that, I still think like that's the best record. I don't know if I really count like that. Our first person shooter.
Starting point is 00:08:08 That's the first round. I don't know why y'all got seven-minute drill by Jay Cole even up there. Don't be like that. I don't know why y'all got a show of hands up there. I don't know why y'all got all to myself. None of that matters. We're talking about Kendrick and Drake. Okay, fair enough.
Starting point is 00:08:21 We're talking about Kendrick Lamar and Aubrey Graham. That's what we're talking about. So if anything, I would keep like that. Also, seven minutes drill doesn't exist anymore. No, it doesn't. I would keep like that for the right. And then push-ups. Like that and then push-ups.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Then I would go into tailor-made freestyle. Then I would go into Euphoria 616 in LA, family matters, meet the grams. Everything down. And then not like us. And then the hard part six. Not buried alive either? I don't even know what the fuck that is. See, that's what I thought.
Starting point is 00:08:53 When you were referencing 616, I thought you talked about the Bared Alive. I thought that was actually really good. What was that? Beryd Alive. It's a parody. So Beryd Alive is the record that they have together. Their first record together, that's on Take Care. And he flipped it. So he pretty, like, in the original record,
Starting point is 00:09:08 is Kendrick telling the story about his first time meeting Drake and going to Canada. And then when he flipped it, it's pretty much Drake now telling the story on the same beat. But he's like, how did I miss that? I know. It was only posted on IG. But that's what I remember 616. If it was 616 versus the Bared Alive is,
Starting point is 00:09:28 I really like the Bared Alive. Well, that's another reason Drake lost this, because I ain't know nothing about the Bary of the Live shit. It's too many songs. But that's what also makes it. The song is six minutes long. It's like, what's going on here? But that's what also makes it the greatest rap feud ever.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Yeah, does it? All of these guys, Kendrick and Drake decided to put out this much music and everything was high quality. Yeah. Yeah. It was up here. Like nothing, there is not one record on there that you could say is whack. Everything was good.
Starting point is 00:09:55 They all answered, somebody would land a blow, somebody would come right back. The reason Drake loses this battle because he drops a phenomenal record like Family Matters. The shit that he even said in Family Matters doesn't even stick because Kendrick comes out 30 minutes later. So it's like Drake comes out and says, White Beater. Kendrick says, pedophile. White Beat is the little joker. Pedophiles the big joker. Neutralizes Family Matters immediately.
Starting point is 00:10:19 You come out, you say, yo, Day Free, Kendrick's guy is the father of his kids. It's like, come on. That's crazy. I'm like, Drake's going to hell. Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, I know they're playing limboe with each other, but Drake just went to hell. Yeah, he went low. But then here comes Kendrick.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Sit down, Drake's mom. Let me tell you why your son needs to die. Oh, my fucking God. I had to call Debbie Brown after I listened to that shit. What she said? I needed somebody to talk to. I needed to get this shit out of my spirit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Say what? Somebody told me that it dropped, and it was right before I was going on Saturday. No. No, it was Friday night. May 4th, not like us, came out, I think, Saturday. In the morning, we were still at the party. We was at the party when Family Matters dropped,
Starting point is 00:11:09 and then 30 minutes later, Kendrick dropped. Yeah, I was... There was some song that came out. I thought it was before Saturday. Not like us. Not like us. The pop! Yeah, that's.
Starting point is 00:11:18 That came out Saturday. That came out Saturday. I came out during your show. Yeah. No, no. And I literally saw an update and I was like, I can't take this in. I don't want to like, I didn't know what it was going to be. And the last shit, he was talking about how he's a pedophile.
Starting point is 00:11:31 So I'm like, the fuck is this one going to be about it? I don't need that in my heart. I don't need that in my soul when I'm going to like make people laugh, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Meet the Grams was dark. Meet the Grams felt like Stan meets, um, suicidal thoughts by Biggie Smalls. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:47 It felt like Stan. People love that record, though. Which one? Tuasidal thoughts. People do love that record. And Meet the Grims. Honestly, I think Mitha Grim is one of the best records to me. Like, I like Meet the Grams and Euphoria as far as the Easter eggs and just the journey
Starting point is 00:12:03 it took me on and listening to the record as a record. It's just wild to sit somebody's mom down. Tell them that your son needed to die. Tell them that they're a pedophile. See, but. And then at the end, tell them they just need, instead of, I'm glad that you're in therapy, but you do some ayahuas. He went low so that he could bring it back up though.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Even within the record and in real life energy wise, but then dropping not like us. Because everybody felt like, all right, this was really dark. Like I don't even know if I really want this to continue anymore. I don't even know if I still want to listen anymore. And then he brought the energy back up but not like us. And even though I meet the grams,
Starting point is 00:12:41 he ended with like, yo, nothing's going to change for you. What is the Lauren Hill? How are you going on when you ain't right with that? That's all he's saying. Yeah, but are you right with Finn? If I sit down with your mom and see your son you decide? He went low because Drake went low. He had to go lower.
Starting point is 00:12:56 You don't match energy. That's why everybody miserable now. Man, sometimes good people got to slap niggas that need to get slapped. He talked about his son and then you're upset because he talked to his mom. That doesn't mean. Talked about his son. What you mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Like, what do you mean? Yeah. I said that last time. I'm going to go below the belt. I think there is an unfair narrative out here, which is like, people are going like wow Kendrick went so low how dare he and it's like nah
Starting point is 00:13:23 Drake did just exactly I agree questioning the father of a child like hell that kid is going to listen to that song one day hell yeah and then wonder if his dad this is real dad is his uncle I just
Starting point is 00:13:39 hell so I if we're just being objective here that's like you're you're putting turmoil and trauma trauma on an innocent party. I'm with you. And a child at that. So some break cannot
Starting point is 00:13:55 cry about what Kendrick said because that kid is going to listen to the record one day. He's going to be 14 and he's going to have a moment where he goes, is my dad my real dad? Even like that's going to happen to a child. I'm with you. So while it's foul as
Starting point is 00:14:14 buck to create this narrative that Drake's a pedophile, which he is not They're both foul as fuck. Yeah, but I guess what I'm saying is Drake can't cry about it because he's also fat. Oh, I agree. Wholeheartedly. Now, we're going to get to something in a minute that I think. But at least Kendrick is saying this about Drake.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Drake is saying this about a child. Yeah. To me, there is a very big difference. Kendrick either knows or doesn't know that that his kid. That kid doesn't. So either Kendrick got a test or he knows that they were together or has spoken to his ex-wife, whatever. That kid doesn't. Yeah, and you know what-
Starting point is 00:14:55 Drake knows he's not a pedophile. You know what I mean? Like, and if you're a kid, you don't want to hear this record 14 years from now. What if 14 years from now, Drake's kid is listening to Meet the Grams and now he got questions. I know. Well, wait, so wait, what is, what was said about Drake's? Just that he's a terrible father. Yeah, he's a deadbeat. Well, here's a thing that you can learn character from me because. But, but here's the thing about that. a daughter that he don't take you don't take care of. Drake's kid is gonna know who his dad is
Starting point is 00:15:19 because his dad is either in his life or is not in his life. He doesn't need a song. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? You know what I mean? Like, anybody can say that we're, somebody can say that my dad's a bad dad. Yeah. But it doesn't matter what they say, because I know what he did for me, right?
Starting point is 00:15:32 I know if he was there. So it's like, it doesn't change that relationship at all. Questioning the legitimacy of a child. I agree with you with that, but also in this record, Kendrick is saying like, Your dad, even if he is present, isn't going to be a good present, dad because your dad is not a man of moral. It's essentially what he's saying.
Starting point is 00:15:52 He's saying, actually, you can learn to me. Because in this record, I'm breaking down why your dad is not a man of moral and how these are the things he should do to get better. So it's like, even if that's true, even if he's, even if that's true and even if he is a present dad, like the, if he ever gets mad at his dad and feel like his mad is disagreeing with him or something, he could go listen to the song and get the validation he was looking. Hendrick said, let me be your mentor since your daddy don't teach you shit.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Never let a man piss on your legs, son. Either you die right there or pop that man in the head, son. I mean, come on, sure. If you know the situation, that's the diddy shit, no, that wasn't the diddy shit. I thought it was. No. No, that has nothing to do with that. I thought he peed on his leg.
Starting point is 00:16:35 No, someone peed on his leg. That was T.I's homeboy. God bless the day. His homeboy is no longer with us. That was T.I.'s homeboy back in the day when Drake first got on. And his homeboy was drunk. And they were like in a movie theater or something. And the guy thought he was peeing somewhere else
Starting point is 00:16:50 and then he'd on drink. And then he was killed? No. It happened like years, years later. I think, I think, I think, I think you might have died in prison or something like that. The math is just not math. And how do you end up peeing or somebody? How you don't stand out of the way of somebody being?
Starting point is 00:17:07 He was drunk as shit. I did that in college. My friend was peeing. He was peeing into a toilet, not a urinal. Like the toilet, where, girls would pee, but he's standing in front of it. And then I went behind him and peed in between his legs.
Starting point is 00:17:20 What the talk is? Are you being sitting? Are you? What are you trying to expose? You dropped out your mind. That's a real. That's crazy. Canl, click on that line.
Starting point is 00:17:32 No. I thought it was a funny prank. But then my stream started to get weak, and it just was splattered around the floor and, like, hitting him. And he was drunk. That's just wild. That's so messy.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Why he just? No, no, you're right. It was pretty disgusting. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Andrew Sliger, I'm sorry. That's who it was. He was really upset about that. I'm sure. Reasonably so.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Yeah, he alludes to the story of Drake being urinated on in 2010 by T.I's inebriated friend Cap during a movie premiere in Los Angeles for Tia's movies takers. Meek Mill mentioned this in his July 2015, Drake dis wanted to know. You let Chip homie piss on you in a movie theater, nigger. We ain't forget. That's crazy. But he was drunk. Okay, that one doesn't really add to what it.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Exactly. It's just a nasty little bar. Like, listen, I mean, there's nothing Kendrick said in any of his distance that was brand new information about Drake, other than the daughter thing, which I don't even believe. Daughter thing is... There were articles about it, though. It's about the son. Here's why it's believable.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Here's why it's believable, even though it's doubtful. Because we saw it before. Yeah. That's it. Where is the things... Yeah, yeah, go on, go on. Did you all see the pictures of the kids, though? I mean, of the son?
Starting point is 00:18:42 It's not a daughter. It's the son. All biracial babies look alike. No, no. She's just like Rick. She already came out and showed the dad. I know what you're talking about. It doesn't look just like Jake.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Nobody cares when they want to believe something. Nobody cares about the truth when the lie is more entertaining. Once you set a narrative in somebody's head, anything you see will confirm said narrative. That's true. But also, once you see this picture, I think you're going to think the same thing. I can find babies that look like you, Naila. Don't it. And say those are your penis.
Starting point is 00:19:14 No, because I got a half a birthday. Get a little black, blue-eyed baby. And say you had a child from a crack-out. Listen. How did he care? What the fuck? Go back to the song list. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:29 So Beech the Graham comes out, neutralizes family matters. This is where Kendrick Lamar wins. On May 4th, he did what we all thought Drake was going to do. He put out the bop. He put out the disc bop. Yep. When you put out the disc bop, You win.
Starting point is 00:19:44 And by the way, it's not like Drake is dead after not like us drops. You know when Drake dies when he drops the heart part six. No, for real. And you know why? That's real. Because number one, you wanted to get back at Kendrick because Kendrick did your move by giving you a back-to-back and he made the back-to-back 616 in L.A. So you're doing twice.
Starting point is 00:20:04 You're doing two things that Drake does. I give you a back-to-back and I give you a timestamp record. That's your move, Drake. Drake is doing on that. Clearly, okay, I'm going to give him the Heart Part 6, 10. Because that's Kendrick's series of songs. The Heart Part 5 was the last one. He gives us the Heart Part 6.
Starting point is 00:20:20 No, Drake, you were supposed to come back with a record. Yeah. A song. You were supposed to come back with it your own disc box. Yeah. You saw it. Like, how can you watch Kendrick on Saturday night? You're watching videos from the club.
Starting point is 00:20:35 You're watching videos with people crib walking in L.A. You're seeing what this record is doing. How do you, the hitmaker, the hitmaker, not go make a fucking hit. How do you come back with the heart part sticks? Does that shit bother him? Can I say what's more fun here? That's it really,
Starting point is 00:20:52 really bothered him. He tried to end it though. When you have a, when you get hit with something, and the pedophilia allegation, there is no bigger allegation. It's disgusting. So it's like,
Starting point is 00:21:03 the crazy thing about the pedophilia allegation is that if somebody even accuses somebody of it, you will never let them babysit your kids, right? Babyset. Maybe it like, might not let them shake, The kid's hanging. But what I'm saying is, like, even if you know the person, like, even if Chris Moreau,
Starting point is 00:21:17 somebody said that shit about Chris Moreau, right? We know Chris. We know this is bullshit. There's no way. And Chris was like, oh, yeah, if you guys want to go out, I'll watch a kid. You'd be like, man, Chris, you don't get the fuck. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, you're going to have to move to Bali soon.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Oh, my God. I love a Russell. I love Russell Simmons is speaking on this. Russell, shut the fuck up and do some. yoga, Russell. You know, anybody want to hear about this shit from you? Okay, all your fucking accusations. Sit yourself down in a cross-legged pose
Starting point is 00:21:51 and shut the fuck up. The fact that he goes on Instagram, like, I think I should weigh in on this discussion. I'm the moral authority here. Shut the fuck up and play some drums. Yo, go do downward dog without a fucking girl in front of you.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Russell Russell will Russell You know our Russell statement Mr. Mark Russell's statement missed the mark Because it's not like people are just
Starting point is 00:22:21 out here tearing people down to tear them down You're just totally discrediting any allegations that were made Now I do agree with Russell You know these allegations aren't criminal they're not in a court of law is what he's saying
Starting point is 00:22:35 He was like all of this stuff is just basically He said she said But I guess when things play out in civil court Like they did in the case of did he you got to kind of understand why people feel the way they feel. You're settled less than 24 hours after getting sued for all of these accusations. Like, if you didn't do anything, there'd be some fighting back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:56 You're not going to settle within 24 hours. For Russell, then the gate that, that was a little off, Russell. That was a lot off, actually. Yeah. Why do you live in Bali, bro? Yeah. Why do you live in the place that doesn't extradite? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Why do you live there? Huh? Yeah. Listen, of all the people who come to his defense, Diddy's like, you got to be looking at Instagram, like, no, no, man, no.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Not the ally. I heard Harvey Weinstein also did an Instagram. Yeah, Harvey was like, yo, free my man, Diddy. Shout out, whatever Russell said I agree with. Golly. Yeah, that wasn't the move, yo. Say for family, he tried to end it already.
Starting point is 00:23:41 though saying like, I'm going vacation, blah, blah, blah. So he sounded like defeated with the heart price. He didn't say. I don't know why people keep saying that. Because he tried to end it again. He didn't try to end it. Yes, he did. No, he didn't.
Starting point is 00:23:54 But you said, he didn't. No, he didn't. I mean. So, I'm not even joking. Please stop letting social media. It's not because of me. He didn't try to end it on Larry. He didn't try to end it on none of them.
Starting point is 00:24:05 What he was staying on the heart part six was, if y'all motherfuckers ain't going to play above board, And y'all just gonna be out here. We're just gonna be out here spreading lies about each other. I'm not with that. He literally said when we start speaking facts, let's get to it. But he started with lies. He started with the lies.
Starting point is 00:24:22 I don't know. Listen, I don't believe none of these motherfuckers. But clearly they believe, they believe what their say. But honestly, he just did the J-Cole. He just stepped out. He didn't step out, though. No, he did because he was already doing he say-she-say and rap verses. Then came to the end and was like,
Starting point is 00:24:39 I don't want to. I don't want to play the game and he says C-Shay after you've already been playing it. That's the cold. Yeah, but that's not, that wasn't... That's the cold. It's the same thing. That wasn't a tap-out.
Starting point is 00:24:48 It's bad strategy to put this record out after not like us. It sounds like you don't want to play. No, but he did say it. At family matters, he goes, man, I'm about to go on vacation. It's done with blah, blah, blah. No, because he's saying y'all motherfuckers is done.
Starting point is 00:25:03 He was like, y'all didn't want. That's what he's saying. I'm putting it up. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, he can say that. He comes across. So Drake thought he was done. He thought family matters was it.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Exactly. That's what I'm saying. No, that doesn't mean he's done. He thinks that was a nuke. Yeah, he thought that was a nuke. Yeah, it's different. Which I think it would have if Kendrick didn't step on. If he didn't have better stress.
Starting point is 00:25:26 This is the hard person. That motherfucker Kendrick dropped two nook. No, can't know. Two. Yes, he dropped me to grams. He dropped. He dropped me to grams. And then he was like, yo, there's still motherfuckers
Starting point is 00:25:39 moving down there. He dropped the nuke on top of a nuke. Yeah. He dropped that's what he's down. It's how he's He's a hard person. By the way, there's some real slick balls in this. You can go towards the end.
Starting point is 00:25:53 I know. There's a real slick ball. This was great rapping. This was great rap. Like, phenomenal. I didn't like the spoken word at the end. But that's him kind of waving the facts. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Yes, it is. He's like, here. And this is a good exercise. Exactly. I'm a pen working. Listen to what he was. Read it. Read the whole thing. I don't think Drake is giving up, but he lost the war.
Starting point is 00:26:14 He lost the war. Or he lost the battle. No, he lost the war. Kid is the clear winner here. Yes. But what happens, if Drake puts out music after this, it's going to hit the way the Blueprint 2 hit. Y'all don't remember the Blueprint 2.
Starting point is 00:26:26 The Blueprint 2 was a great disc record. Probably one of the best. Probably one of the best disc records that came out of Jay Z. Nasby, but it came out after the fact. It came out after Eta, came out after Super Ugly, came out after a last real nigga alive and it was great but nobody cared
Starting point is 00:26:43 that whole, that line with uh, is it Uchi Wally Wally or is it one Mike that everybody still quotes to this day that's from that record but nobody care. So Drake can come out with a great record today and it's like, no, it's close. Like we closed man, like, you know.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Only time until he can get out of that. I think he can, yeah. How does he, okay, so what is, I have two questions. One, what is the next move for Drake? Lawsuit. No. That motherfucker is going to sue.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Listen. Why? He used to sue. All the investigators on Twitter have been pulling all the stories. Investigators on Twitter ain't got shit to lose. Let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Drake is half white. Exactly. Okay? Y'all about to learn. Drake, Drake, Mama's side of the family is like, oh, no, Aubrey. No, this man is I here calling you a pedophile?
Starting point is 00:27:32 Not a barbri. Listen, there's probably people at night. There's probably people at universal. There's people that got. real vested interest in Drake that is a multi-billion dollar entity. They're like, you got to protect your name. Fuck all that rap shit.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Call your cousin. Call your cousin. Who's the lawyer? But then he just want to prove Kendrick right. Who said Kendrick was wrong? Drake knows he's half white. No, I'm just saying what Kendrick was just saying how he don't know his black like. He's not suing.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Shit. I can see him suing. Why? Why? You call me a boy. You got news reporters on TV. Listen, you got news reporters on TV. I didn't mean to yell. I don't want to look like these fat, stupid motherfuckers on podcast.
Starting point is 00:28:16 If you, if you, if you, if you, listen to me, listen to me, if you are on a, you're on TV. And they called me, they meant to say a rapper and called me a raper. Oh my Lord, that's not even a word. You didn't see that? That's not even a word. He goes, there's, he goes, there's a word report. White news report, it goes, Raper, Drake.
Starting point is 00:28:37 And he goes, oh, my bad rapper. You didn't see it? Oh, I have. You know what this is proven? This is proving that the things that Kendrick are saying are sticking. It's sticking. Listen, watch this. This is ABC news anchor.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Outside the mansion of the rapper, rapper, rapper, I should say, Drake in Toronto. Now, many people are asking this evening if it's- Y'all are bugging if y'all don't think somebody may sue on Drake's behalf. I don't know who it's going to be. There is an entity that can sue. If Drake is in business with some of these companies, because the company is attached to him. Okay, let's say, let's just say
Starting point is 00:29:10 outside of suing. Okay. Give me another strategy outside of suing. What does he do? Musically? No, no, just it could be anything like, he needs to do something. You got it.
Starting point is 00:29:21 I'm not going to lie. I feel like he's going to wait and then post a note like he did when Adonis. Don't do that. When Adonis happened, he lied said it wasn't his son. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:29:30 It was like, you know what? I've done X, Y, and Z. I wasn't doing X, Y, Z. I wasn't doing it. Why he said, don't do that. My son from the X, he already did him. When I did academic stream last Friday, I literally said the worst thing Drake can do is defend himself.
Starting point is 00:29:42 And I bought that up as an example. I bought up the fact that he put that letter out about pushing teeth. I literally said the worst thing Drake can do is get on a record and go on defense and defend himself. That's what he did with the heart part sticks. That would be a terrible move. The only thing Drake can do right now is go to L.A. and get jumped in Pairoo. You got to go get jumped in Pairoo, Drake. Drake, you got to go to L.A. and get jumped in Pairoo.
Starting point is 00:30:06 I root. And why would that? Why would that? You gotta go do it. Can he do all these gangs? Isn't he like, couldn't. Oh, by the way, I really hated how he shouted out. You know who really represent my nigger, Y, G.
Starting point is 00:30:18 I hate that. Why are you name dropping? That's something I don't really like for all the names. We're gonna get to that in a second. But just real quick, you would, okay, so you join the blood. Join the blood. What else is there? No, no, I genuinely, I'm like, what is the strategy for him right now?
Starting point is 00:30:33 I think if he can find one piece of crap. proof that proves just one of his allegations, then now everybody's like, oh shit, everything he said was real. And then if he matches that with a bot, that's how he went. So hold on. So hold on. He needs to find a video of Kendrick beating up his either Kendrick beating his wife or a pregnancy test that says
Starting point is 00:30:57 Dave Free is actually the child's father. And then he puts that out? You would have to. But let's be honest. Though I think it would be a moment. Isn't it going to be bigger than this? Yeah. The only way to take Kendrick's energy is to discredit them.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Yes. So right now the reason Kendrick wins is because he's got all the energy. I think it's discredit, but I don't think it's going to like, it's not going to like tear the statue down. No, I don't think so. Because they're already saying that both of them are lying on each other and this, that and the third. Everybody agrees that they're both lying.
Starting point is 00:31:29 So if Drake backs up his word and Kendrick can't back up his stuff, so now it's just like, yo, he put out just a bunch of lies about you, we discredit all that. I mean, if he can get it, that would be great. But it's like... But that's not a win with music, in my opinion. No, no, I say that with a buck. But he needs that with a buck.
Starting point is 00:31:47 On Twitter, like, both of them have been making allegations, and the only one they have Twitter threads on is Drake. Like, there is no Twitter thread of all the time. Because Drake lost. And Drake is the bad guy right now. Is it over? There's also more people that want to see Drake get knocked off a pedestal.
Starting point is 00:32:04 I mean, Kendrick is the underdog here. So it's, he is 100%. That is the unequivocal truth. 100%. Because he's the smaller. He is significantly smaller. And he's never been. He's never been considered number one.
Starting point is 00:32:20 He's been considered number one amongst music heads. And even when music heads say it, it's the same way as when people were like, Prince is better than Michael Jackson. It's like, oh, that's cute. It's like Carl Malone is the MVP, not Michael Jordan. That's adorable. No. He was never number one.
Starting point is 00:32:36 It wasn't even fucking close. It's not even in the conversation. He's a prolific artist. Yes, he's prolific. Prolific. I've always said Kendrick is the leader of the new school when it comes to these new artists, but not because of, I get what you're saying. Drake is commercially known as the great guy.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Kendrick is to critically acclaimed. Yes. And often critically acclaimed, you are critically acclaimed because you are not acclaimed. That's why critics have to say that you're great because the people are not saying you're great. You don't need critical acclaim when you're putting out Avengers Endgame. Nobody goes, Avengers Endgame critically acclaimed. They just go, fuck the billion dollars. It's a billion dollars.
Starting point is 00:33:15 So that's all I'm trying to say. So everybody and naturally as human beings, we resent the people that hold incredibly successful positions. It's just in our DNA to do that. We're competitive, you know, power-driven. Yeah. I don't want to say we're monsters. We're also awesome, cable of cool shit.
Starting point is 00:33:33 But when we see people that are at the top, we want to tear them down a lot of times. And so all the people that have seen Drake run music for decades, they're like, fuck that. Now it's about time. This guy gets taken down. And then Kendrick, who happens to be one of the most prolific musicians
Starting point is 00:33:48 in the history of the world, probably. It's the same. It's the same reading people cheer when LeBron loses finals. Exactly. It's the same reason. People cheer when LeBron loses. Yeah. And when Jordan did too, like they're...
Starting point is 00:34:01 When did you lose? I don't remember those times. Eastern Commerce Finals, right, when he didn't go. Remember that first year he came back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All I'm saying is, like, there were Jordan haters. Like, every, every successful person has haters. I think this conversation is like entertainment or entertainer versus artists,
Starting point is 00:34:18 but also at the same time, I feel like there's other big artists who, if allegations are made, nobody even pays attention to just because people have a certain level of. Drenz. Drey. Drain. If you don't think that they're. are people, well, now that Taylor Swift has taken over the top spot,
Starting point is 00:34:38 I think Beyonce's looked at a little bit more of like an underdog, but when Beyonce was on her heyday, if you don't think there are people like rooting for Beyonce's downfall, 100% I don't see people coming together like unifying to try to take you out.
Starting point is 00:34:57 By the way, this is the first time they've done this to drink. There's been plenty of times there's been things said about Drake and allegations and all of that type of stuff, and nobody cares. This is the first time these shit
Starting point is 00:35:06 have penetrated some armor. So that's, so that's, that's the next discussion I want to have, which is like, why do you guys think there is this unbelievably
Starting point is 00:35:17 coordinated effort to take Drake down? Number one, and then two, why not a single person in entertainment outside of Jewel Santana. Juel Santana is the only person
Starting point is 00:35:30 to be like, yo, Drake has got this. Like nobody has Drake's back. All the goodwill that he's done, all the number one songs he's given people, all the times that he patted someone on the back. Why is no artists on planet Earth coming out and supporting drinks? What is going on? Why do they need to?
Starting point is 00:35:48 Well, well, what? Why do they need to? This is his better. Anybody says anything about my dude. It's fuck them. You're not a rapper. Yes, we are. I don't fucking tell us what we are.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Are you out of your goddamn mind? You're not a rapper. I know I'm not. You ain't a rapper. Oh, no. I know. I know. What the fuck is you talking about?
Starting point is 00:36:06 You didn't see my guy on stage with 50 cents other night? I'm rap. You know what I mean? I'm rapping. Say again? I was in the background trying to not mouth the M word. That's what I was trying. Yo, chill out.
Starting point is 00:36:16 I was. You don't want to hear you say, nigga, no more. It was, that shit was difficult, bro. I saw you want. No, I did. I did. Yeah, you did like this. You was like, I turn around.
Starting point is 00:36:28 I'm not going to lie. You got some shit out. You got some shit out. Turn right back to right. Me and Tony made like I We made eye contact We made eye contact
Starting point is 00:36:38 And I thought a DAP was coming And then he just hit a hard left And I had to turn this into like Hey Wait, hold on one more Before we go to a commercial What y'all think about BBL Drizzi? No, no, no
Starting point is 00:36:53 What are you going to do you go to commercial? We're here We've got a very important discussion Which is why is there this coordinated effort and why is there no support for Drake? What do you guys think? But it's funny because if anybody was going to be the support, you would think it would be Cole.
Starting point is 00:37:06 I feel like Cole who's friends? No. No. Exactly. What? The last person I'm taking the war is the person who retreated. No, no, no, no, no. We just saw you retreating, Cole.
Starting point is 00:37:16 All right, hold on. No, and I'm fine with him retreating. But I'm not calling it. You don't, don't pick up the phone and call Trey after Trey got off the call. You're missing my point. Cole did first person shooter, meaning he's cool with Drake. him and Dirk are his last two allies that we've seen publicly. So for this situation to come to its head and Drake decide, you know what, let me get out of this, why would, why would you want to do?
Starting point is 00:37:40 You mean for Cole to say, let me get out of this? Yeah. Well, the screeches saying, schoolboy Q pulled Jay Cole aside at Dreamville Fet. He said, get the fuck out the way. Okay. And you got to think, Jay Cole knows both of them. Yeah. So Jay Cole has heard conversations between Drake.
Starting point is 00:37:56 He's heard conversations between Kendrick. Yeah. And Jay Cole knows who the fuck knows what they know about me. We all, we've done toys together. You know what I'm saying? I don't trust none of this shit. Who's got a more pristine image than Jay Cole? Whose image would be more destroyed?
Starting point is 00:38:12 Drake's image ain't really that destroyed. No, no, no. Actually, let me take that back. Sorry, sorry. But Drake is already like, he's out known for fucking girls and partying, doing all this kind of shit. Jay Cole is like, I'm the good guy who supports your community and do it. all these things. What if Kendrick dropped some crazy shit about Jay Cole where he says, yeah, you told me in private, you hate black women, they smell weird.
Starting point is 00:38:36 You know what the fuck? I'm just saying like, it's over for Jay Cole, right? You got to run. Why? Yeah. It's a big problem. It's a big problem if he said that. They told me every time they see you on videos on city bikes riding through New York, you're trying to get away The black women. Yep. That doesn't make sense. Back so. Back so.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Or I figured that he didn't tell his wife everything, probably. He don't want his wife to know. You think? Andrew brings up a good point. I don't know why no rappers are coming to Drake's now. Because they don't want to get murdered by Kendrick either. You know what's awesome going to bio right now. You don't think Kendon would add them into the mix?
Starting point is 00:39:25 Hold on. Every single person inserted themselves in music has been liking comments, commenting, telling on Kendrick's behalf. Everybody's been vocal. They've been celebrating. It's been crazy to support Kendrick has. There has not been a single person. There hasn't even been someone who came out and said, yo, the pedophile shit is corny. Like, what the hell is going on?
Starting point is 00:39:50 I'm an OG Drake Hater. I'm the only person saying the pedophile shit is corny. But I think the wife's being the shit is corny too. I think that, I think that should be. I think both, if they fall, if it's false, I think both of this shit is corny. It's got to be false. First of all, people, people be using the word. I think the pedophile is 100% false.
Starting point is 00:40:06 You know what a pedophile? You know what a pedophile is, right? Do we know what the pure definition of a pedophile? We don't need it. Chris, no, no, it's not under 18. Yeah, but we don't need to break it up. But no, no, no, what is the pure definition of a pedophile? White accent.
Starting point is 00:40:19 It's a person who likes it. He says an ex. Right answer. Right answer, my boy. Correct answer, my boy. Correct. No, Chris, I wasn't even trying to be good. Chris, I wasn't trying to be for that.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Yes, he was. Yes, he was. That guy's good. I just know Chris is the smart guy. The definition, a person who is sexually attracted to children, and it is children before puberty. Look, listen, listen. That's why, but that's why it's so,
Starting point is 00:40:53 but that's why it's so liable. when you use that word Yes, I understand what you're saying But like for all intents and purposes We're just talking about underage So it could be under 18 What are you doing now? No!
Starting point is 00:41:04 Okay, what is that? No, no, stop it. Okay, so what about states Where the legal age of consent is 17? No, it's under 18. Like, stop it. No! You can't say that, yo.
Starting point is 00:41:15 I just did. Because a pedophile is not a person who messes with a girl under the age of 18. A pedophile is a person who messes with little children that haven't even hit puberty. But that's what they were saying is true. If you're messing with a girl under 18 and you're over.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Now, no, listen, there are these like weird rules or something like that. Like, let's say, for example, like your high school sweethearts, one of you is 18 and one of you is 17. Then one of you turns 19 and the other turns 18. I don't think you're a pedophile. Yeah. Right? Like, this is, you know what I mean? So that's not, we're talking about a guy who's in their 30s dating a fucking 14 year old.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Oh, come on. Yes. Okay. They're going to fucking jail. Okay. But that's what he's talking about in this scenario. Yes, exactly. So this is what I'm trying to say.
Starting point is 00:42:02 This is what I'm trying to say. Drake, first of all, there's no evidence of this at all. None. And then people are trying to, like, string together narratives. And it's fucked up because, like, you don't really care about the kids. Because if you really cared about the kids, you wouldn't have waited for you guys to have a diss battle in order to bring this up. But that's what I feel about both of them. Oh, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:42:18 And Drake doesn't really care about the abuse because you would have said this before. So again, that's right. That's right. You guys are both using like a really awful thing. Me-toeing each other for a rap feud is corny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is whack because if you really cared about the kids, you would have brought this up early.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Oh, if you cared about the woman being abused? And if you care about a woman, exactly. So you're bringing up these horrible things for self-interest. Now, again, it's a rap beef, so everybody says to watch it. Oh, right. But y'all don't really believe this. And if everybody else who's quiet, all of a sudden starts believing it, you ain't believe it when he gave you your number one single?
Starting point is 00:42:51 That's what I'm saying. Or did you believe it? And you looked the other way. Now you even more corny. That's what I'm saying. To meet the me to and each other in a rap feud just because y'all mad at each other as rappers, that's corny as far.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Yes. That's, by the way, that's the most corny thing that came out of this whole situation. Yeah, I'm going to choose to not believe. I'm going to choose to not believe both of them. Both of those scenarios.
Starting point is 00:43:10 I agree. But as far as nobody's supporting Drake, it is very peculiar to me, and it makes me, and academics brought this up on, on Flaggart, so I got to give him credit for this, but it's like,
Starting point is 00:43:21 academics kind of posited the theory, that Drake fucks everybody's girls. And I don't know if he's doing that. I don't know Drake, but I can't fathom another situation where the entire music industry has basically come together to be like, fuck this guy.
Starting point is 00:43:41 By the way, also, too, I'll give you another scenario. It's not like Drake is out here looking like he getting beat up. Drake is out here handling his handle. Drake is literally over here with his hand on five people while he's swinging at Kendrick.
Starting point is 00:43:55 It's not like he's out of, out here getting his ass kicked. That's the other beautiful thing about family matters. The same reason I like push-ups. He went out about five different people on family matters. He gave A-Sav Rocky some bars bars, he gave the weekend some bars bars, bars, he gave Ross some bars bars, like he is, he, if anybody he waived the white flag for in this whole shit is his future, because he was like, yo, me and future ain't even got no issue.
Starting point is 00:44:17 He was like, I hate the fact that me and future is not seeing eye to eye right now, because we don't even really got no smoke, but I know that Metro probably influenced you on some bullshit. I drink Drake got a heart and he definitely showed his like MC scale to the highest degree. And that's nice. And that is why when I see Questlove say things like hip hop is dead, pull up what Questlove said. And I, you know, I fuck with Quest Love heavy. But I didn't like this statement.
Starting point is 00:44:43 And the reason I didn't like this statement is because Drake's security guard gets shot in Toronto. And everybody automatically just starts assuming this has something to do with the kind of Lamar beef. Why? I had people saying to me, well, that's what happens when you take somebody's house and use it as an album cover. Who the fuck don't know Drake's address? Right. Like, that's like posting the White House. Yeah. Like that house in Toronto, Drake, I've even seen videos and I saw this watching Act Scream. Act played a video where Drake said something like he wants this to be like a monument when he's gone. It's like there, right? So listen to what Questlove said. Is that it? Yeah. What did he say? Nobody won the war.
Starting point is 00:45:25 This wasn't about skill. This was a wrestling match. Level mud slinging. Something, I don't know. This is a wrestling match level, mudslinging and take down by any means necessary. Women and children. And actual facts, be damned.
Starting point is 00:45:40 He wrote before declaring hip hop to be dead. Same audience wanting blood will soon put up RIPP posts like they weren't part of the problem. Hip hop is truly dead. Here's the problem I have with this, right? We're all of a certain age. I'm 45 years old. I was born in 1970. Quest Love is older than me.
Starting point is 00:45:54 And, you know, when you get older, you do have a different level of wisdom and you can look back on certain things and say, you know, you can look at certain things now and say, hey, that's wrong. Yep. But you have to first acknowledge the role we played in it back in the day. Because take old when Jay Z and Naz were definitely doing wrestling match level mud slinging. They were definitely bringing women and children into the situation. Jay Z was out of his saying he was sleeping with Nye's baby mama. Jayes said he left condoms on the baby seat. You know, Nas out here calling Jay Z gay and saying he got dick sucking lips and all this other stuff.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Like that was wrestling match level mudslinging. Quest Lovey was on stage with Jay Z playing the drums while he was doing takeover. You know what I'm saying? So it's like my whole thing is like, before you chastise these young men. Put yourself in their shoes. That's right. That's right. Now, do I agree with him that the stuff that Drake and Kendrick are saying, when I heard family matters and then I heard Meet the Grams on Friday night,
Starting point is 00:46:53 I was like, there's no way it left to go, but violence after this. There's no way it left to go. Like, literally, I said that to myself. I'm like, there's nowhere to go. Like, this is not rap anymore. You said they took it to hell. They took it to hell.
Starting point is 00:47:06 I'm like, God, I was actually disappointing in both of them. Because I didn't think either one of them would take it to hell. When you listen to Euphoria and Kendrick's breaking down as a psychological analysis of a man, cool.
Starting point is 00:47:18 You know what I mean? You listen to push-ups. You're making jokes about, you know, splits and all that other stuff. Talk about wife. The wife's line was like, and we knew that was going to cause problems. But even then, it didn't cause Kendrick to go to hell on euphoria. He heard family matters and Kendrick had a record ready for Satan.
Starting point is 00:47:37 He was like, as soon as you hit the elevator button down to age, I'm coming right behind you, motherfucker. And guess what? Satan was down there like, love it. Drake, that was good. This shit here. This shit, right. is what the fuck I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Yeah. So my whole thing with Questus, I salute Quest and I respect it, but you got to acknowledge the role that we all played in it. And I don't like people trying to make it seem like the dude getting shot in Canada. I had anything to do with Kendrick and Drake. That's a whole other country. Yeah. I don't know that's not an
Starting point is 00:48:11 isolated incident. We also don't know that it doesn't. We don't know that it doesn't. But why just jump out and say it does? Because of the timing, just optics, optics. But I definitely agree with you on what you said on the Quest's love note. Sorry, can I just say one thing before I forget. The reason why Charlemagne,
Starting point is 00:48:27 we think that it had something to do with it, and this is what nobody wants to say out loud, but it is the truth, is because we want it to have something into it. No, no, no, no. That's not true. Hear what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:48:39 I don't. No, hear what I'm saying. Hear what I'm saying. People are looking at this like wrestling. They're looking at this like a soap opera. They're looking at this like some TV show, right? And there's a romanticist. is the wrong word. I don't need romanticism, like sexual. I mean, there is something
Starting point is 00:48:56 naughty and romantic about the idea that now this beef that we saw taking place of music, now it's actually hit the streets. And what the reason people are connecting those dots is because on some fucked up primal level, they want this to happen. Or they want to be right. Like if you're a person that's sitting around saying, man, they want their feelings valid. As soon as something like this happens, but nobody's looking at this, Los Angeles, security guards shot there in Steno home of the weekend's co-manager and possible attempted home invasion. This was April 29th.
Starting point is 00:49:30 How do we notice this was a retaliation? In regards to what you said, I feel like the primal instinct isn't necessarily human nature. I think it's more so because the last massive ratbeat that we watched ended with two people dying. It's horrible. Nobody died in Drake Meek Mill. The last massive? I feel like this is big. The last massive was probably.
Starting point is 00:49:51 This is Daisy. Nobody died in Jay Z, Z, Nod. All right, all right. Tupac and Biggie. Like, this is huge. You're right. This is their biggest records. They were hitting their belt, too, though.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Like, you're right. This is crazy. The sad part about the Biggie Pox shit is that Biggie never said anything. Like, Biggie never said nothing. Like, it was all one side. First off, fuck your. That was fuck. So.
Starting point is 00:50:15 No, what was Biggie's shit? Who shot? Who shot you? But they said that was just a coincidence. And I believe that. Allegedly. I don't know. Timing.
Starting point is 00:50:23 The song was recorded. The same thing. Yeah, back then, the guys recorded music so much in advance. It's the same reason why the shooting looks crazy. But now I was right. Optics. And when it comes to the Quest Love thing, something that I realize also, because I feel how I feel about, like, men and music, misogyny, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:50:43 But I think, like, the deep Pock chakra quote, that's like everybody's operating at their own level of consciousness. That's right. It's like, all right. some of Kendrick's bars ain't going to penetrate to some people just because they're not on that level of consciousness. And I think that translates in his albums, like to Pimp a Butterfly, people would be like,
Starting point is 00:51:01 oh, I don't feel like reading a book. If you're a book reader and you know that book, you're into the album because you understand that level of art. So I feel like where Quest Love is and his level of consciousness being in hip-hop for this long, that's why he's where he's at. Yes, but I just think that you have to acknowledge where you were to put more context on it.
Starting point is 00:51:24 And I don't know if Questlove makes that statement if that shooting doesn't happen at Drake's house. But once again, why are we just automatically saying that that shooting has something to do with Kendrick versus Drake? Because we're not saying that in regards to Drake in the weekend because we don't put the negative connotation on the type of music the weekend does. We put a negative connotation on rap and rap music. And we always want to blame the media and say the media is portraying us in a negative light.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Why are we portraying ourselves? in a negative light. We don't know why that security guard got shot. That could be, first of all, God, first of all, God, blessed that security guard. I hope he pulls through sending healing energy to him and his family, but we don't know why that happened.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Why do people have to be so quick to rush to judgment? Why do we have to speculate? And if we are going to speculate, let's come up with some better shit. Could it just be another L.A. Home invasion? Could have been another L.A. home invasion? Or it could have been.
Starting point is 00:52:19 No, that was in Canada. No, I'm talking about it. The reason why they're doing that is because Toronto isn't a city that has big gun problems. They had two shootings that day. There was another shooting like right up the street. They've had some. They have big gun problems? For Canada, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:34 We can't compare it to the U.S. Obviously because the guns sounds different. But like, yeah, they have had some issues and like there are people to get down out there. I got way better scenarios. Number one, weekend, a security guy got shot at the weekend's manager's house a couple weeks ago. What if that was retaliation? I don't know if that's the case. I'm just throwing.
Starting point is 00:52:51 it out there. What if? What if? There was an OVO Mo. And they thought that the security guard was the OVO Mo. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I heard that. It's definitely giving them a mole, though. You know what I mean? The good owls get together.
Starting point is 00:53:10 You know, you thought the Goodfellas was a hell of a mob. Nothing like them goddamn good owls. You know what I'm saying? I'm just saying there's other scenarios that are better than just Kendrick Drake. Yo, if Kendrick Lamar is able to get somebody touched in Toronto, the sixth is his. He should get lifetime floor seats to the Raptors games. He should get equity in the Toronto Raptors team if he is able to make something like that
Starting point is 00:53:36 happens. We know that's some foolishness. We know that's not the case. Here's the question. Here's the question. Is Kendrick Lamar a useful? The term is useful idiot. I wouldn't call him a useful idiot.
Starting point is 00:53:55 But is Kendrick Lamar a useful artist, a useful figure, a useful person in a beef that really doesn't have anything to do with him? For example, is this really between Metro and all the dudes that have come together? I get what is it, XO and Drake, and they kind of let Kendrick do their bidding. Kendrick wants to smoke, but he might not even realize that he's the one that's actually been placed as the executioner for a beef that really got nothing to do with him. That's the possibility, but what's the saying, an enemy of my enemy is my friend? Well, 1,000%. And he's willing to do it. He's down to do it.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Yeah, he's down to do it. But the true beneficiaries are the ones who have ignited this in the first place. Yeah, he's done. I mean, but that's why you go and get Kendrick. strategically put him on like that. You tell them what this album is. You tell them what this album is about. And Kendrick decides to go...
Starting point is 00:54:55 And they'll say, oh, I'll do it. Yeah, exactly. And then they all sit back and they go, oh, shit, because none of them are going bar for bar for Drake. I'll tell you that, for sure. By the way, I'm not mad at it because Kendrick has always wanted to smoke with these other rappers. For sure.
Starting point is 00:55:06 He's always consistently put out there that this is what I want. I want to go to war. So, you know, you think about control, whenever control was all these years later, these three guys are still the guys. And Kendrick decides, you know what? it's time to go fucking owl hunting. I want it.
Starting point is 00:55:22 I need like, because at the end of the day, yeah, I can only be one, right? I guess. You know where Drake fucked up in this whole thing?
Starting point is 00:55:31 Not putting out of a box. There's a couple things, though. This is where he fucked up in this whole thing. He dropped his meat video. He mentioned that, though. Phenomenal line and family matters. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:55:44 But here's a thing. But if, think about this. Let's say, for example, he's getting washed in the battle. right? You kill a story with the story. You drop the meat video. Not not that.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Just wait. If it never went out, you dropped the meat video. The internet stops, listen to this song, talk about the whole internet is just going to talk about the meat video. And then you tell Kendrick, yo, let's go meat for meat. And you know, you know Kendrick is not going meat for meat. Why not? You can't drop a meat video after getting called a pedophile, bro.
Starting point is 00:56:17 That is the last thing you want to do. Exactly. You got called a petalbop and your answer is to put your dick on line. You don't drop it yourself, someone else dropped it. For God to mention, too. He completely got Mr. Moral wrong, too, though. And the I heart six or whatever. Because he was saying that Kendrick got molested and everything.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Like, he did it all wrong. Like, he clearly didn't listen to the song. I think he misinterpreted it. Yes, he completely misinterpreted it. No, he misinterpreted it. But that's why those who aren't vibing on the correct frequency will understand. His whole point. I don't even know what that means.
Starting point is 00:56:50 What do you mean? What's you trying to say? What you said before, right? Yeah, about Deepak chakra. Everybody's operating at their own level of consciousness. So, like, when Drake is saying, I mean, what Kendrick is saying is before you, it's like, you make hits that put people to sleep. And I'm, you know, giving people.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Yeah, you pass apart people. Yeah, so he said those who will be able to understand and decipher the Easter eggs and what Kendrick is really saying will understand. Drake is not one of those because even when he listens to a record. he ends up thinking Kendrick was molested. Was Kendrick not molested? I got to listen to the record again.
Starting point is 00:57:25 When I heard it, I felt like he misinterpreted what he was saying. But he wasn't. What is he saying? To me, if we don't want to know what to you. We want to know what it is. Yeah. We don't want to know to you, Taylor.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Now I know. Now I do. Now I do want to know. Taylor, tell her. Before we find out what it really is, before we find out what really happened. Taylor made versions do be good. Don't tailor made versions of shit, do be good.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Tell us what happened. When Taylor gets to design in our own shit, it is pretty good. Taylor, come on, break it down. Tell us what happened in the song. But um, yeah. You tell me what happened in the song. I don't remember. I'm about to bring you and pull it up.
Starting point is 00:58:08 I do love the fact that everybody's going back to listen to Mr. Maril and the Big Steffin' Because I told people, Mr. Morale and the Big Steffler's is going to go down in the future as the most important hip hop album of all time. That in Jay Z's 4-44. So it really is good that he's, that people are going back listening to that project. What's the line, Alex?
Starting point is 00:58:25 I'm trying to find the song. I'm still looking for it. Yeah, I don't. The song is mother. Yeah, that's what I got. Yeah, I don't remember. I don't remember him. Who molested?
Starting point is 00:58:32 He didn't get molested. I think he was in the observation. I felt like he was saying that they thought that he was getting molested. They were asking him. Because it was really his, uh, cousin or something like that. If you thought he was getting molested, I don't know. No, now we got to pull this up. That's one of those things where it's like.
Starting point is 00:58:47 No, No, because he said in the song, he's like, they asked if I got molest, and I said, no, but they didn't believe me. I mean, I really don't, I can't believe how bad strategically. What's going on? Drake fucked this up. Yeah. That's a little crazy. What's going on? But it's the morale of the people, like, what did that be?
Starting point is 00:59:05 Come on, Taylor, just explain yourself. I'm saying what the. Teller, use your words. Taylor, use your words. You guys will let me. We won't let you. We was listening. We're asking you to do it. Look, here's a lyric.
Starting point is 00:59:16 Start off with eight. Here's the lyric. Then his B, then his seat. What? What? I don't care of, listen, here's the thing. Did he touch you, Kendrick? Never lied, but no one believed me when I said he didn't.
Starting point is 00:59:31 That's what I said. Yeah. Frozen moment still holding on. So they thought that he was touched, but he's saying he wasn't touched. So they didn't believe him when he said he wasn't. So his family was like, yeah, you did get molested. And he was like, no. I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:59:45 I got to go back at list, but I really have to look for it. Because knowing Kendrick might have a flip at the end, I don't remember. Yeah, I'm not listening to that shit. No, I love Mr. Moral. Everybody should listen to Miss him around. Molestation music. I'm not listening. Molestation music is crazy.
Starting point is 00:59:59 I'm not listening to none of that shit. Somebody broke it down on redder. Why wouldn't you want to hear molestation music? You don't want to hear music that touches you. Oh, my God. Your fucking soul. This guy's good. Why don't you want?
Starting point is 01:00:10 Music that touches your soul. That touches your fucking heart. That's a false. This guy is good. So, what do you? What are you talking about? The dark drugs are crazy today. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:00:21 On rhetoric, it says he's talking about slavery. The slave master rapes the slaves. They make other slaves watch out of- Shut the fuck up. Why you get mad about it? There's nothing about this song that's about slavery. No, Shal, you're out on the right wavelength right now. There's nothing about this song that's about slavery.
Starting point is 01:00:40 That's what it says in written. Did he touch you? Somebody's talking to him. I put my sunglasses back on. So y'all stop talking about dittling. What? Not dittling. I think y'all are talking about is dittling.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Let me read the verse three. Can we make gay jokes again? We all, we'll get back to the gay jokes. Make it bigger. Y'all, y'all owe me an apology. I said that. I said it's about his cousin or something like that. This is what genius says.
Starting point is 01:01:02 We never said you was wrong. Yeah, but you never said I was fucking right either. You didn't say that. You didn't say it. You didn't say. You really just crying at me like, no, we don't want to hear what you have to say, or what is. Blah, blah. Like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:01:14 All right. It says sexual abuse the toxicity. Blah, blah, blah. That's fine. It says sexual abuse, the toxicity of the skin. The stigma in our community, it comes with needing help and asking for it. Once you get help, how hard it is for your family to face their trauma, breaking the cycle instead of letting your paths control your future. Yeah, that's about right.
Starting point is 01:01:34 I'm with that. I'm with that. Listen, the moral of the story is Drake lost. He just did. And you know how you know he lost because the people said he lost. Like in that, and when we were sitting around saying, well, what's the ending going to be? Yeah. The ending is always the people.
Starting point is 01:01:49 And, and he didn't necessarily lose because he was whack. Drake music was fantastic. Yeah. Drake competed at a high level. Drake actually, I always knew he could rap. Family matters is different. Crazy. No, no, he killed it.
Starting point is 01:02:02 He just got, out strategy. He got outstratized. And he couldn't win over the public. And that's the thing. It's like, you know going into it that the underdog has the public. The majority of people outside. of your direct fan base are probably like, all right, it's time for that guy to get knocked off his pedestal.
Starting point is 01:02:19 I feel like Drake had the public. It wasn't like that, though. Drake had the public for a long time. See, everybody has prison of them. Second Kendrick dropped. That shit flipped. Exactly. Everybody's a prison in a moment.
Starting point is 01:02:28 But when Drake dropped push-ups. Well, no, when Kendrick dropped like that, we was on Drake head. Like, motherfucker, you don't want it with Kendrick. Where are you at, blah, they bladice and that. Then Drake drops push-ups, and we like, oh, shit. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:42 All right, Drake. Then Drake comes back with Taylorman. With the artificial intelligence of Tupac and Snoop. I'm going to tell you something, Drake. That AI, Tupac, and Snoop gassed you up. Yeah. Because you was on there asking for it, and you got more than you motherfucking bargain for it.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Okay? When he said, I'm going to send it up the Pock when he brought back to Pock. I know, like, damn. And Pock sent it right back. You know what starts with Pock? You know what else starts with a P? PIRU.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Paterpire. Paterer. All right. That's high roof. One answer is reminded. I'm just saying, like, that shit did not go the way Drake wanted it to go. Yeah. You hear me?
Starting point is 01:03:23 And, yeah, other than them both taking it to hell and Me Too and each other, I thought this was a fantastic battle. Greatest hip-hop battle I've ever witnessed. And in such a short time. So what does Drake do next? You can't ask you that. He's going on vacation. He goes to turn to take some time off.
Starting point is 01:03:41 He should go on vacation. Maybe just some. Ayahuasca. Gone vacation. Let Kendrick, like, this is going to be a mighty, mighty victory lap for Kendrick Labar. And the reason it's going to be a mighty, mighty victory lap for Kendrick Lamar. Because Kendrick Lamar is him. And Kendrick Lamar has always been him.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Kendrick Lamar is a man. I am one of Mochanui. On July 10th. Maui, you aboard my boat and restore the heart of Tefi. And here we go. The journey begins. See her line of the... Who chose you?
Starting point is 01:04:19 Let's go save the world. I got your back, chosen one. Disney's Moana. Boat's Nick. His name is Hay Hey. His name is Yum Yum. When he goes in my tum-tum. In theaters July 10th.
Starting point is 01:04:33 To the guy who said, I'll marinate the chicken, then forgot. Hi, you're a Safeway PA announcer here. We've got pre-marinated meat. So all that's left is pretending you made it yourself. Oh, that's the way Who this generation does not even appreciate And I'll keep saying that over and over Because he does not put out music
Starting point is 01:04:54 The way everybody else puts out music So he'll put out an album, wait four or five years Drop another album. He don't do a lot of features And so being that he's out of sight, out of mind a lot We don't appreciate him the way that we should. The way motherfuckers talk about Kendrick Lamar It's insane to me
Starting point is 01:05:09 As if he doesn't do this when he wants to You know how good you got to be To come back and change the temperature at your leisure At your leisure, whenever I come out, I'm what's moving. I'm what's happening. Yeah, I'm going to win the Grammy for Best Rap album. I'm going to be the motherfucker that's getting all the critical acclaim. That is me.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Kendrick is about to have a mighty victory lap, and I'm going to tell you what. I want to see Kendrick Lamar do. Stop an album. I want to see Kendrick Lamar do a straight West Coast album. Ooh. I want to see Kendrick Lamar do an album with mustard, some Dr. Dre production, DJ Quick Battle. cat, go get all of these classic West Coast producers.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Scott Storch. Stott's Storch. If Stoach is with Drake, cool. But I want him to go get these classic West Coast producers and give us a West Coast Sounding album, because I'm going to tell you something else that nobody's talking about when it comes to this battle. Number one, the West Coast sound is so phenomenal, bro. As soon as you hear that, not like us, you just, you're ready to get beat up because
Starting point is 01:06:12 you ain't got nobody in this trip walking, but you're ready to take the wrist. You know what I'm saying? You ready to throw up signs and all kinds of shit. Still respect L.A., you idiots. I see y'all while and out on your Instagrams and you're cripp walking and you're throwing your shit up.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Don't think you can just do that shit once you get off the airplane at L.A.S. Careful now. All right. Did you see Kaysanae reaction? He did the thing that he goes, I'm so sorry. Kai, you better fucking apologize.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Kai fucking apologize, okay? Don't start that shit now. L.A. is still to be respected. And I'm going to tell you something else. don't get into a record battle feud with anybody from L.A. Nobody goes to hell
Starting point is 01:06:54 like L.A. Rappers. That's true. Tupac hit him up. Ice cube. No Vaseline. Dr. Dre fucking Dr. Day. These motherfuckers go to
Starting point is 01:07:09 him. That's what Drake stands for now, though. Don't rap against Drake. Don't rap against Kendrick. I know, I just wanted to repeat it. She just wanted to share it. I know. I just wanted to repeat it.
Starting point is 01:07:23 And she thought nobody in this room knew that. I just wanted to repeat it. Let me- But we're talking about the West Coast, Taylor. I didn't know it. I didn't know it. We're talking about the whole West Coast. Not just Kendrick.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Okay, what? These people go to hell. Tupac said that's why I fucked you bitch. You fat motherfucker fuck. You fat motherfucker. Dr. Dre said, Gap T in your mouth so my dick got a fit. Ice Cube has a record full of anti-Semitism and homophobia.
Starting point is 01:07:49 And it slaps. So not only will they shit on you and go to hell, they'll have the whole world dancing. I can't, you don't, you can't, what you're going to do again? The end it slaps. Nobody in rap music makes better disc records than West Coast rappers historically. I don't give a fuck, okay? Fuck all that lyrical, miracle, spiritual.
Starting point is 01:08:12 your shit, you know what I mean? We want to dance and we want a motherfucking watch you get clowns. Their jokes be better. The insults be horrible and they be bops. Nothing you can do? Yeah, there's really nothing you can do. What can you
Starting point is 01:08:28 fucking do, man? God damn. Wrong about that. Round of applause, Kendrakew. You did that. Drake, you have nothing to be ashamed of. Okay, the only thing that can hurt you right now is your own pride and your own ego. Drake. Or does allegations? really being true.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Could you stop? Stop. Why would you even, no, they're not true? Why would they be true? You said there's only, there's nothing that can hurt you right now. I'm just saying, or if that.
Starting point is 01:08:51 But the allegations could be true for Kendrick. They could hurt him too. Yeah. You're right. Like, we make this so one-sided. Like, Whitney not following? I wasn't, I wasn't making one-sided.
Starting point is 01:09:01 I was just saying, God bless me. Anyway, I don't believe either one is true. I don't believe either one is true. Let's pay some bills. Shout out to Drake. Shout out to Kendrick for giving us a great moment in hip-hop hit. Amen. And never.
Starting point is 01:09:14 When Kendrick comes with an album, I just hope it's a more of, not like us than all the-y- West Coast Slaps. Yeah. I want a chronic. If he gives us an album of 616, I'm good on it. Man, you know, give me a, I don't think you want YG's first album. My, uh, what's that my crazy life? Oh, that was.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Slaps. I want Tendry to give me something like that. You don't think that Drake tried to come back with a bob there for us? Drake needs to go on vacation. I know, but you don't think, like I'm thinking his ego, you don't think he'll try to try to come out with him. He's going to come back with a hot night. He is.
Starting point is 01:09:45 He can. I think he will. I think that's just his nature. Yeah. Greg can't go into it. Yeah. This is not about to be a Jaroal situation. Y'all's your fucking mind.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Yeah. I'm not going to ask the same question. You might say what did he do that? Yeah. Does he put out an album? Does he do a stuff? Who? Drake?
Starting point is 01:10:03 Yeah, like he can do whatever he wants. He's still a drink. He's still goddamn Drake. I'm going to firewood, though. I'm not going to lie about all the Drake. The wildest thing that Drake did on family matters. He said, you know who bang a step? My man, CB. I said, when I heard him say that, I was like, Drake don't know nothing about L.A. Now, I'm not saying C.B. Don't bang a step.
Starting point is 01:10:22 All I'm simply saying is Chris Brown is not from L.A. Chris Brown got jumped into. So there's real gangbangers that you can't even mention in records is what I'm saying, right? But if that is what you're putting out to the public, Kendrick probably sitting back laughing his ass off like, oh, he don't know nothing about what's really going on. out here. If that's who he thinks really banging the sets out here. Wait, so is it true that I didn't look it up, but Drake has a show when Oakland's him?
Starting point is 01:10:50 Because he's mentioned that in the I didn't like that line either. I don't like when Kendrick said that Oakland, that Oakland's going to be your last stop. Yeah, it's scary. I don't like people wishing death on folks. Like, I don't like that shit. I don't like that energy. Don't do that. Everything else is cool. Don't do that. That guy, don't wish death on people. That's why I fuck your bitch, you
Starting point is 01:11:06 fat, why would Faith Evans do that? This seems like a really mean thing you do. By the way, for your point about proof. So mean. I saw my guy, DJ Head, slew of the DJ Head. Head was with Elliot Wilson
Starting point is 01:11:18 and Jeremy, they got a new show on hip-hop DX and Head was on the show and Head was talking about proof and does proof matter in these battles? And yes, it does. That's why I push the T one against Drake because the things he said was true
Starting point is 01:11:34 and there was proof to it, you know? Like he actually, like I said last week, he crushed the multi-million dollar Adidas deal because of that situation. He stepped on the roll out of Drake's son. Also, I don't know if it's true that Tupac and Faith got in there. Yeah, she denied it. Oh, she said that never happened? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:50 I know she denied it. But guess what? We all saw that picture. What was the picture? That picture of Faith in Pock with Faith don't we blur that out. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. West Coast. I'm sorry. You can't even throw the West Coast up? I'm not doing it.
Starting point is 01:12:06 Y'all going to learn to respect LA. I've always respected LA. I mind my business. Who doesn't respect the line? I don't play with that shit. I'm telling you, don't let this be a repeat and make Fat Joe do another song where he tell y'all B2K, crip walking like that's what's up.
Starting point is 01:12:20 Leave that shit alone. This picture right here. Now, you drop something like this in the height of the East Coast, West Coast beef where you got a bad boy artist, my man's wife. Now, that's crazy. Now, that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:12:32 God, damn. But why would she even do that? I don't know, but whether it was true or not. Look at her. Look at the state that she looks at. Oh, she's fucked up. You do look lit. Oh.
Starting point is 01:12:45 Okay. But wasn't that a before pitcher, though? Hold on. I said Drake won the battle? No. He said, no, he said, this headline said, DJ academics explains why Drake won the rap battle against Kendrick Lamar.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Even if all allegations, both rappers made against one another are false. Man, no. Oh, he said if both of them were lying, then he thinks Drake has better music out of the two. Man, that's simple. That's what he said. No, that's not.
Starting point is 01:13:11 He don't understand in Kendrick, that's right. Family Matters is the best record. Yeah, look. That's all the minute. Family Matters is the best record. Euphoria. Not like us is the best song. But Euphoria is really the best record with the eating.
Starting point is 01:13:26 And honestly, it foreshadowed so much but then the beef. Drake also probably just put that out too because Kendrick was up one when it came to songs, like put out. Y'all really sleeping on euphoria. You are. Y'all are. You are. You're really. You are.
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Starting point is 01:17:01 disclosures for details. Now let's get back to the show. Let's do some church announcements. Show it's what you got, man. This Thursday, Staples Center or CryptoCrypto.com Arena. Thank you guys so much. It's sold out, man.
Starting point is 01:17:19 So we're very excited. Shane Gillis is going to be on the show as well. We're doing this one together. You don't need them. He's a lot of shame. He's hilarious, man. You're doing a lot. I like that.
Starting point is 01:17:32 I like you. Jay is killing it. I'm fucking Shane. But let's not act like my he's ain't out here holding the comedy world up on his goddamn shoulders. I like the fact you still out here keeping it real, man. Shane is killing it. Shane is absolutely killing it right now.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Fuck all that. You don't got to say I will. Fuck all that. No. And I just finished watching this video. Can we be. be friends? Can I have no friends,
Starting point is 01:18:02 Charlottet? I'm with you. You might not need him. The Drake got there worried about his fucking friends right now. He need to be. I'm looking at this shit. This video time to dream up some new dreams, man. This shit is incredible, yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Shout out to Bala, man. Just cooked that one. No, this shit is incredible. Because I remember you saying that at Radio City at the end. And I remember us like, damn, show sold out Radio City. And I remember you at the end saying, next time we do this, we're going to do it with the Knicks play. And I believed.
Starting point is 01:18:29 But that shit wasn't even a It hasn't been a year I was like two years Really? I think that we did that in 2020 And this was 2024 Radio City was 22 Mm-hmm
Starting point is 01:18:39 God damn time you fly That's shit for like fall of 23 Right Shit Yeah yeah But think about that All right So you put in the groundwork
Starting point is 01:18:46 For a whole year Around the country We went out of the country Yeah we went out first The first The first like major tour stop Was in Toronto When we did the Raptors Arena
Starting point is 01:18:57 Out there And that was like oh shit, I think we got a little something. But I was working on the set without even going anywhere for a while, just piecing it together in the city. And then obviously the set is about, you know, what I went through and my wife went through. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:10 So fantastic, by the way. Thank you, man. Like phenomenal. I've never seen a man talk like that. Oh, thank you. And I'm not even talking about in stand-up. I'm just talking about it in general. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:18 Men don't have those conversations. That's cool. And I loved it because it was just the right amount of misogyny. And then it just came right. And it was. Because it's, you got to watch. I kind of want to give it away, but it's great. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:19:31 Like, it's phenomenal. Like, oh, shit. Like, I don't know, man. You're going to have to start having some different conversations about Shultzzi. Oh, thank you. This ain't just about packing arenas. This is about who's the motherfucking goat. Thank you, man.
Starting point is 01:19:44 It is. That's cool, man. You might need to name your next shit, euphoria. Name your next special, not like us. I'm serious, yo. Thank you, bro. Thank you, man. Somebody got to get it.
Starting point is 01:19:56 Thank you, man. Who's it called me? Who, who do you? Fuck, we're going to be. He just wants constant war. Who is it going to be, God damn it. Who is it going to be? We needed a bigger break from that Drake Country shit.
Starting point is 01:20:09 I know. That we're addicted. We just need constant chaos. I'm being honest with you all. But you know what's so interesting? All the goats know. All the goats know. What does that mean?
Starting point is 01:20:20 Like, all the goats know, shows is the goat. I was invited. I invited somebody to this show, right? I'll show it to you. I ain't going to see who it is. And he's, I don't know the person that was said this public car. He might have said it to you before. But look, what's the, I say, yo, you know, he goes, I'm in LA.
Starting point is 01:20:40 I like him. He's funny. And if you know him, that's not an easy thing to say. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. So it's like they all know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:51 But eventually they got to acknowledge. That's what it's, that's all it is. Yeah. You just keep putting pressure on them until they acknowledge it. If not, pedophile room is coming, baby. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 01:21:06 I'm just saying, I'm just saying, we can do this the easy way or the motherfucking hallway. I don't know if you all right. I don't know if you all right. What else we got, Taylor? Chris is still in shock, bro. He has to set a word.
Starting point is 01:21:24 He has to set a word for the last 45 minutes. He said that frozen, bro. That live disease kicking in, but we need to have water, yeah. I do want to ask a question about the roast if I can. Oh, yeah, for sure, for sure. I mean, not with getting into specifics,
Starting point is 01:21:43 but like, so what happens, you do your thing, killed it. When it's over, how do you interact with the people that you just? Great question. What's that vibe?
Starting point is 01:21:55 Because I thought I saw a clip of you, like, shaking Dana white sand. Oh, Dana's the man. So there's no... Dana's the man. Dana gets it. He loves it. He's like just a wild motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:22:08 And, yeah, he's just... As far as I was concerned, I thought he was super cool about it. Like, he understands the point of this. Like, and he signed up for it. He didn't have to do it. But he's like, all, fuck it. I'll go up there. I'll do it.
Starting point is 01:22:21 And then the athletes, they were all good. The comics, everybody knows what time it is. What about Kim? How she acted? I didn't know Kim was going to be. I wish I did. Juan? Oh, did I had the jokes for her?
Starting point is 01:22:30 Yes. Yeah, she was out there with the boneless waist action going on. She was right in front of me and I remember sitting down and when I came onto the dais and I saw the chair and it said Kim Kay in the chair and I was like, get the fuck out of here. How the hell nobody tell me about this? And I think they didn't tell on purpose. Because I don't, I think they didn't want the dais to cook her up. So they're like, we're not going to, the dais meaning like the people who, uh, who are doing
Starting point is 01:22:55 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're like, all right, let's not tell them she's going to be here because if they did tell us, we didn't even talk about Tom. Can I hear no Kim Kay jokes? Yeah, I didn't hear any. Who had Kim Kay jokes? I think Tony hit her. There's two. Tom hit her.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Yeah. Tom hit her. Tom hit her. Tom hit her for real. Facts. One made a joke about Kanye being her husband and then another made a joke about her having sex for all the black men. Yeah. You know what I love about this rose?
Starting point is 01:23:23 I love that day was people who came out offended, you know, like Tom. Brady's ex-wife and, you know, the family of Aaron Hernandez and nobody gave... Don't we give a fuck. Shut up. The family of Aaron Hernandez needed to shut the fuck up. Now, I'm not going to say all that because I don't know if that runs in the family. He murdered people. He can't get a joke?
Starting point is 01:23:41 Sure. But we don't know if he runs in the family. We might need to shut the fuck up. You're right. You're right. My bad, yo. My bad. My bad.
Starting point is 01:23:51 That is my bad. Hey, guys. Let's hang on for a second. I think we need to kill his whole segment. Yeah. This is crazy. The roles was fantastic. I thought that I'm being
Starting point is 01:24:07 dead serious with you right now, I thought it was going to be an absolute shit show. Really? Really? Yeah, it's live. You got people who never done comedy before, have never told jokes before, standing in front of 13,000 people.
Starting point is 01:24:22 Right? So now... 13,000? Yeah, it was at the forum. Oh, that shit you sawed out by your motherfucking self? That shit you showed out by your motherfucking self. I ain't going to lie. I was looking around.
Starting point is 01:24:33 If I saw an empty seat, I'm like, come on, Tom. You can't fill that up. Hey, bro. You would have told me I would have tweeted something. You know what I mean? I would let him know I was going to be here. You know what I'm saying? No, no.
Starting point is 01:24:48 It was just, it had every opportunity to be horrible. Mm-hmm. And it ended up being awesome. And it's really what makes a rose good is just are the athletes or are the non-comedians going to be good? If they're good, it's phenomenal. If they suck, if like what Ben Affleck did is going to be bad. Thank God Ben Affleck was at the end. That guy.
Starting point is 01:25:11 Son, he came on. Did you watch me? He watched my clip. He watched my clip. He watched my clip. He's like, it's the greatest rose. That's a whole thing. I watched him a cab.
Starting point is 01:25:23 I watched him a cab. I watched him Andrew. I watched him a Nikki Glazer. You know, Nikki killed. She was good. Nikki killed, Tony killed. And I got a shout out Kev. Because Kev, Kev saved my ass, y'all.
Starting point is 01:25:33 Wow. Right. So right before me, Rob Grunkowski goes on. And Grunk is really like, he's not playing a character. Like, that motherfucker is, like, right before. He's really Groot from fucking Garden of the Galaxy. It's not even Groot. It's like, like, you know, you know the chart when we're a little monkey still?
Starting point is 01:25:51 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's that. So, like, Lenny from Mice and Men? Yes. Okay, okay. Yes. And like, whatever he gets excited about, he just does. Like, he don't think about the repercussions.
Starting point is 01:26:01 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, he's the type person, like, if we're on a room, we're like, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, go take Chris's dick out and see if you could cut a piece of it off. And he'd be like, no, that's weird. And be like, come on, come on, come on. He'd be like, all right, fucking. You know what I mean? Like, so he takes a shot with Belichick and Kraft and Brady,
Starting point is 01:26:19 and then he takes the real shot glass and spikes it. down. It explodes, hits some chick in the front row. No. Dead ass. This girl's holding her face like three minutes. I'm up next. So I'm like, God damn, it's already three hours into this fucking roast. I got to acknowledge this shit and then whatever.
Starting point is 01:26:38 And to Kevin Hart's credit, he did like a old school comedian hosting a show thing. Something crazy happens in the room. He reset the whole room. He went up on the podium. On live TV? On live TV. He takes his time. He goes, all right, that was a little bit
Starting point is 01:26:54 weird. He chills. He chills. He settles the whole room. Then he starts to joke around a little bit, tell some other jokes. And by the time he brings me up, the room has moved on from what Rob did. So now I don't have to acknowledge it. And I, I was like, bro, thank you so many. You know you saved my ass. He was, bro,
Starting point is 01:27:10 of course, I'm not going to let you go up after that. So the fact he did it. Professional. Yo. Consumint professional. Yo. Shout out, he really owned that shit. Like, there are people who host it and they're just getting through it.
Starting point is 01:27:24 he hosted it like a black comedy show. And if you haven't been to a black comedy show, you don't know what we're talking about, but like the host of the black comedy show, that's their show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. The white shows, the host is there to kind of like get things moving and then like it's,
Starting point is 01:27:40 but if you've ever watched Def Comedy Jam, you see Martin. It's Martin's show. Absolutely. Exactly. And in between every comic he was doing his thing, like dad, he put on a clinic, bro. I ain't gonna lie.
Starting point is 01:27:51 He really killed that show. Kevin's the guy. What else we got? Scott Taylor, gang. Let's do some, uh, huh? Yeah, announcements. What's my announcement? Oh, get honest and die lying.
Starting point is 01:28:01 Why Small Talk sucks. It'll be out May 21st. Bookstores everywhere. Everywhere you buy books, this is my third book. You can go to why Smalltalk sucks.com to see which cities I'm coming to. I'm actually starting off with 12 dates, I believe. So I will be in, on May 22nd. I'll be in New York at the Barnes & Noble on Fifth Avenue at 1 p.m.
Starting point is 01:28:23 Then at 5 p.m. I'll be at the Barnes & Noble, Paramus, Paramus, New Jersey. May 23rd, I'll be at Green Street Fringe School with Uncle Bobby's Coffee and Books in Philadelphia. May 25th, I'll be in Coral Gables, Florida at Books at 2 p.m. May 29th, I'll be at Charleston Music Hall with Blue Bicycle Books at 7 p.m. May 30th, I'll be at First Baptist Church of Decatur with Eagle Eye Bookshop at 7 p.m. June 4th, I'll be at the Ark with books for sale. by Mahogany Books in Washington, D.C. June 6, I'll be at the Strand Bookstore in New York City at 7 p.m. June 8th, I'll be at Books A Million, Arundel Mills, Hanover, Maryland. June 13th, I'll be at the Barnes & Noble in Las Vegas, Nevada at 7 p.m.
Starting point is 01:29:09 And June 14th, I'll be at the Barnes & Noble at the Grove in L.A., baby. So why smalltalks sucks.com for more details and to get your tickets. And the new book, Get Onus a Dialline, Watch small talk stuff to be out May 21st. You got any church in house, Ms. Nila? Yeah, next certified vibe is happening in D.C. May 18th.
Starting point is 01:29:30 We got two headliners, Nucci, who runs the front porch blog, if you guys are familiar. And then we got they. So it's going to be a super dope performance. But I love, yeah, they're so good. And they've been really idle this year. So this would be their first time back outside. But I used to work at that foot locker at the mall. You're going to in Maryland.
Starting point is 01:29:48 Really? Well, that's in the mall? Mm-hmm. Handover, Maryland. Yeah. Books a million, Arundel Mills.
Starting point is 01:29:54 Mm-hmm. I'll be that June 8th, 2 p.m. baby. Love that. What else we got? Oh, shout out to Gilbert Arenas, man. Gilbert Arenas, Rips Rudy Gaubert
Starting point is 01:30:02 for missing Timberwood's game to win due to son's birth. Now, I'm going to tell you what's interesting about this video. Well, play the clip, Taylor. I want to know what you think
Starting point is 01:30:14 about this show. Right. I want to imagine Minnesota. I don't know for sure. I'm not in that man's business. like that. I mean, missing
Starting point is 01:30:22 this game for that baby. I see you. That's the baby, bro. It's going to be there when you get back. We own. Right. I mean,
Starting point is 01:30:28 I'm just saying, no, I'm just saying, the baby going to be trust me. Okay, but unnecessary. The baby going to, it don't know.
Starting point is 01:30:35 Whatever you're about to think you're about to do with the baby, he's going to be sleep. Need that skin to skin. Okay. Yeah, he's skin in two days. Right on the titty.
Starting point is 01:30:44 The whole time, right on the titty. What I'm saying? We need. I get, I get you want to be with your wife and smile. and stuff and your good NBA
Starting point is 01:30:52 healthcare insurance. Right. It's because of you playing. Right. Trust me. They got everything. So first child. Right. Salute to Gilbert Arenas. I think Gilbert Arenas is hilarious. I think he's off on this, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:07 Like, it's the, it's the and it's Rudy Gobe as a first time father. You was there when your child came into this world. You got to be there. I was there when my child came into this world. There's nothing like it. And you, I remember all of my children's birth, with the first one. Like, I remember how
Starting point is 01:31:25 my daughter looked when she came out. She had her hands together like she was praying. I'll, I'll never forget that as long as I live. Now, Shannon Sharp had a good take. Shannon Sharp was like, yo, you go to the birth. And after you see the birth, you get on a plane, you get out. Yeah. I'm with that. But you got to be there when the baby come out the womb. You got to be there to cut the umbilical cord. And more importantly, man and the lady called in the breakfast club and said this this morning, she was just talking about the maternal death rate. Yeah. With how hard it is for women to, you know, get pregnant a lot of times, but then also how many women died during childbirth. Can you imagine if you decided to not be there for a basketball?
Starting point is 01:32:02 To not be there for a basketball game and God forbid something happened to the mother of your child. And they won any guy. So like, what are we even talking about? Yeah. I just thought that was a, I'm not even going to say it's a weird take. And I'm going to tell you why I don't think it's a weird take. It's a funny take, but also it's a basketball take. And I'll tell you why. Guys like Gilbert Arenas, Draymond Green, he had the same opinion as well. I think even I saw Ocho Sanko and Shannon Sharp talking about it. They're not basketball players, but to get to that level, especially in basketball, and I think we have that type of. Yes, we heard LeBron say this recently on JJ Reddick show. Howdy, you got to sacrifice everything in everybody in order to be great.
Starting point is 01:32:46 They have a mentality to get to where they are, where it's basketball or nothing. That's the priority. That's how you get to that level. That's how you get to be a $100 million NBA player. You're right. Two, three hundred million dollar NBA player. You get to that level by making those kind of sacrifices. I don't have that mindset.
Starting point is 01:33:04 I'm a civilian when it comes to that. You don't have that kind of mindset. We're just looking at this as regular old men. You know? Would you be upset, Nile? Yeah. If you're a guy wasn't there? 1,000%
Starting point is 01:33:16 I think this is a bad take But I like what you said They're athletes They're just dedicated to You're straight Shut the fuck off She'd be up Nila
Starting point is 01:33:28 Sats, sad That's sad That's Come on son Come on son Come on son I know she's When I first met Naila
Starting point is 01:33:38 She'd be up at Columbia University If she wasn't bro I thought the same thing I didn't know What? Why? We've talked about Naila's boyfriends, yo. I know Nile for years now.
Starting point is 01:33:49 But even back there, I don't know. I just thought the whole pretty tomboy thing. I'm like, that's the old school way to say lesbian, tomboy? Not for old school, first of all. It was. It was. Tomboy, yeah. Old school way to say lesbian, old school way to say trans.
Starting point is 01:34:03 Well, the only reason why I started branding myself as a pretty tomboy is because I didn't want to be sexualized or not taking serious like I was. I am taking you seriously as a lesbian. That's the hell up. That's what Nyelemy. Nila stands for it. Not your lesbian amiga. Yeah. No, Naila.
Starting point is 01:34:25 There's only one gay woman in here. What else we got there? You're talking about yourself things. Shut the fuck on. Whoa. Bam, pan, pan. I was talking about Alex. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:35 And you got one. You always tell on yourself. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. You always tell on yourself. Don't do that. Don't do that.
Starting point is 01:34:43 You always tell on yourself. You know. You all said that I was a lesbian before, so stop. Nobody's never said that. Are you guys serious right now? No, we never said that. We would never. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:34:53 I want to stop the shit out of all your own. Why? I'll be honest, a lesbian would do that. Yeah, I know. They are quite violent. That's not aggression is crazy. They do have a lot of violence. Why?
Starting point is 01:35:02 They have a lot of violence. We got to listen to right now. Like, they can't believe you would even accuse us or such. We've never said you a lesbian. We said that people tried to make you a lesbian, but you can't be able to be a lesbian. That's right. That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 01:35:13 Go to Ruba. Just because a girl gives somebody head, another girl's head, don't mean you a lesbian. You got your, you got your pussy in a girl's mouth. Huh? Who said that? Who said what? I am a, who said that a girl? I am a pillow princess.
Starting point is 01:35:27 I let a girl eat me out. It is what it is. I mean, that's not something a lesbian was right at all. She had her whole of JJ in a girl's mouth. Isn't that crazy? No. You want Kendrick to write a disc record to it, don't you? No, I don't want it to write a disc record, but that is.
Starting point is 01:35:44 That's pretty lesbianic For sure Why? If I let Just the way she's flicking her pain So judgmental She's trying to put this shit together No no no no but
Starting point is 01:35:56 You have left me for sure It's hilarious I've heard a man say that as well though I had a What a man say? I had a New York City man By the way who said that It's not gay if the man sucks your dick
Starting point is 01:36:09 What? That's gay for sure That is love That's kind of gay I would say I think we need an ice cream place called That's Lesbian for sure. It could compete with TCBY. This can't be yogurt. That's lesbian for sure.
Starting point is 01:36:22 TLFS can be fans. If a man gets head, is that gay? Yes. But what if a girl... What if a girl gets head from a girl? It's not gay. Because I don't find... Look at it.
Starting point is 01:36:35 The way you mean the bedpost is crazy. It is what it is. It is a double standard out here. It is what it is. You believe in double stand? It's not a double... It is a double standard. That's not the double standard.
Starting point is 01:36:47 That is... It's really not a double standard. It's a gay act, but I'm not gay. Men took that power. It's like how... What he does is a gay act, but he's not gay? I just tried to call him a little lady boy two minutes ago and you jumped in. You intercepted that.
Starting point is 01:37:02 I know. You were just a little niggily lady. You just intercepting the goddamn ass. I'm trying to throw something in a little lady boy and the lady lady jumped in and intercepted. Because no, but I had the right thing. I got to write him because you all right here. Nigger lady is funny.
Starting point is 01:37:19 That shit is funny. That is crazy, though, Taylor. Anyways, DJ Vlad actually apologized to the girl after what happened. Yo, thank you. Glad felt like you wanted to apologize. Good for him. I'm not mad at it.
Starting point is 01:37:33 I think he should have. I'm not mad at anybody who apologized. You all see? He said that he was going to report her to her university for being racist, essentially, because she said that he needs to stay out of this affair. I thought this whole exchange
Starting point is 01:37:49 was. Cornynian. Coney on both sides. Yeah, I thought it was. I mean, because here's the thing. Go back to the beginning. You know, Vlad tweets out, Kendrick's not like us, needed a better mix. It takes away from the song. Now, let me just give you all little context. I know people don't know this. Before DJ Vlad was a DJ Vlad, y'all know now.
Starting point is 01:38:05 DJ Vlad was a producer. DJ Vlad is known on the West Coast. He's from the Bay if I'm not mistaken. So that type of music, that West Coast slaps like that. That's totally his shit. So him saying it needs a better mix. It's like saying like the song needs a better mix.
Starting point is 01:38:21 That's like technical engineer production stuff. Salute to the sister, what's the name? Morgan Jenkins. I guess he used to be a professor at Columbia University. She's clearly some type of professor well-educated woman. Princeton. She said, you are white.
Starting point is 01:38:36 This is a black folk affair. This is what I... No, it's not. It's not because, number one... Drake is half white. Drake is definitely half white and Jewish, just like Vlad is white and Jewish. So it's not just a black folk affair.
Starting point is 01:38:49 But he's talking about music, man. Like, he's talking about a record. He's not talking about, he's talking about the sound quality and production of a record. Can we look at this lady for a second? I don't even think this lady's black. I don't believe it. No, she's a black.
Starting point is 01:39:02 I don't believe her. She's a real person. I don't believe this. She's a real person. Jerkins. It just seems to will. Jerkins is pretty. Oh, Jerkins.
Starting point is 01:39:10 I'm sorry. He's dark. Allegedly, she's Dark Child's niece. Oh, yeah, Rodney's Jerk's niece. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So therefore, she's a producer, so she should understand production. But my whole thing is like... You are white.
Starting point is 01:39:21 This is a black folk affair. Yeah, just don't turn... There was no need to turn this into a race issue. You're right. Like, there's absolutely no need. And we got to, and there's something else I want to talk about when it comes to hip hop. Do you know that 70% of hip-hop consumers are white? You're welcome.
Starting point is 01:39:38 Yep. Oh, God. 70% of... This is an actual factual number. You really are welcome. 70% of all hip hop consumers are white. So if we start telling white people to stay out of hip hop, people aren't the multimillionaires that they are.
Starting point is 01:39:54 They're not the billionaires that they are. I'll be honest. Hip hop don't have the cultural influence it has over the world without those 70% of white people. And if it's 70% white, it's really ours. No, that's not true. It is. You're not true American. No, no, it is ours.
Starting point is 01:40:10 It's like, you all should scuba, though. Yeah, but y'all should really just keep your mouth shut about it. Yeah, true America. This is a white affair. That was a very. This is a white affair. This is not a black folk affair. I think her saying that was just because in the moment of Kendrick dropping not like us,
Starting point is 01:40:28 it was a victory lap, not only for Kendrick, but for the West Coast. And in a way, black people were just so hype that her saying, like, we don't want to hear nothing negative about. But this is what I want. I understand. Celebrating. I understand. Listen. This is some shit that you teach at universities where, like, white people are synonymous with all the oppression that has happened in the world.
Starting point is 01:40:46 And they've created this, like, intellectual justification for dehumanizing whiteness. So anybody that's white, you can just silence or tell to shut the fuck up. You learn this thing at universities. And it's like an interesting, like, thought experiment on universities. She's speaking in a way to a group of people that she would never speak about a Chinese person in this way or Asians in that way or Indians in that way. So this is just like a symptom of like a larger problem. George, relax. I'm not black.
Starting point is 01:41:16 I'm not black. But here's the thing. I will say this. I want people to remember who they are. And what I mean by that is Morgan Jerkins is a professor or she was a professor at Princeton. But I'm sure she would probably want to have tenure somewhere else. I want somebody like her to remember who she is. And even if you see a statement like this from Black,
Starting point is 01:41:37 Keep that in your group chat. You're right. You don't have to say that. You don't have to say that on social media because the only reason Vlad reacted like this to Morgan is because he sees that Morgan is somebody who has something to lose. That's why he can act, you know, Princeton. He did some caring shit.
Starting point is 01:41:52 He did some Karen shit. And that's why people are really mad. This little conversation could have happened, and it would have been like a moment, but it wouldn't have been as much as a moment if people didn't feel like look at him going against her. But why are we mad at Vlad for being black? Both of them did some characters.
Starting point is 01:42:09 Vlad is a punching bag. He is a punch of bag online. Everybody attacks him for being a vulture, whether or not you agree. But doesn't everybody do that to everybody that's half white or white within the culture? That happens to every day. Exactly. But I mean, I can understand him being a little sensitive to it when it happens to it. I would, I, if Morgan should have started this off with the way she responded to when Vlad said, wait, so a professor at Princeton is telling me that a white person shouldn't be allowed to voice their opinion about hip hop.
Starting point is 01:42:37 Is that how you interact with your student? Morgan says what I'm saying is you put your opinion in the discussion that's not needed. This conversation is and should center black people, not you. Why? I mean, because she's a professor. She has to protect her interests.
Starting point is 01:42:50 What I'm saying is why should it center around black people? And not him. He is a person that has dedicated his entire life to hip hop culture and music. He should be able to have an opinion on that. I don't disagree, especially being that all he's doing is talking about production. But the fact that she feels so confident to tell him to be quiet despite all of his...
Starting point is 01:43:12 Well, that's just Twitter rhetoric. The whole you are white, this is a black thing. Yeah. That's literally a, you see that so much on Twitter. Like, that's common Twitter rhetoric. Yeah. She's not a common person. That's why I don't want to see professors at high levels of education talking like regular Twitter people.
Starting point is 01:43:30 But they teach this at high levels of education. That's how it enters Twitter. This is what's taught at the universities. This is... No, no, no. It's not about whether you know or not. Intersectionality, these philosophies that are taught in the universities have basically created a system where whiteness is an oppressive force and it stands for this, all the
Starting point is 01:43:52 historical pain, or at least in the last several hundred years that non-white people have gone through. And any whiteness is responsible for it. Therefore, you can dehumanize people based on that whiteness. What universities are doing that? You've talked through a class like that. Me neither. I mean.
Starting point is 01:44:09 Ever. Have you go to college? Top ten most diverse schools. They've never paid. I hear that narrative online. Right. But in actual education system, they're trying to remove African American history and the truth, period.
Starting point is 01:44:22 I see narratives that you're talking about online, but I've- You don't think that they teach about intersectionality and universities in America? I think they teach that, but I don't think the narrative that you're saying is the narrative. In Florida, that is exactly what they're doing. This is an extension of intersection of intersection. In Florida. No, at all the Ivees. It's what they're teaching in all the ivies.
Starting point is 01:44:41 I know it's slipping in my mind. What is called, though? Oh, what was it? Yeah, the critical race theory. All the people that are anti-critical race theory, that's one of their biggest thing. I'll be honest with you. This even spills into the Israel-Palestine discussion because I think that a lot of people that are viewing it are viewing Jews because they only know Jews from Seinfeld.
Starting point is 01:45:02 They think all Jews are like these white people. And I think all Palestinians are brown people. So they're looking at the discussion, a lot of people, I'm not saying everybody, but a lot of people as this white oppressive force on an indigenous brown people. What they don't realize is that there are Jews that are from this area that are also brown. There are Jews from Yemen. There are Jews from Morocco. They are Jews from all these different. They are brown, they're black Jews that are also in Israel as well. But when you view it through this lens and this type of philosophy is taught at the university level in American, I'm sure, in the West in general, when you view it through the lens as white colonizer, and brown a press person, of course you're going to vilify the white person because that's what you've been taught, that white being, that whiteness is essentially bad and responsible for your pain. Listen, I'm all for vilifying white people when necessary. This isn't one of those times. Like, this isn't the time.
Starting point is 01:45:55 Like, there was no need to vilify glad in this moment, you know? And then she says, semester's over. My contract has been completed. But thanks for trying to bully me out of a job for centering black people because you got your feelings hurt, very retaliatory, hon, nice tactic. Well, some could say you tried to bully Vlad out of his opinion. Of course. You know what I mean? By pulling the white
Starting point is 01:46:14 card. He overdid it, but what she did was corny. And listen, and we got, and I'm with you, but we got to stop saying people overdid it, and I'll tell you why. I always tell you, you can't tell folks how to react. I think Kendrick and Drake over did it. But who
Starting point is 01:46:30 am I to tell them that they shouldn't have gone to hell on each other? Sometimes it's okay to leave people to fuck alone. Also, Morgan said, like, you guys feel like y'all haven't heard. Maybe she shouldn't have brought it to Twitter because she's a professor, but that is definitely something that's being said
Starting point is 01:46:46 in conversation. Dude, my wife went to NYU business school. A black student told a white teacher to stop talking about a subject because it had to do with blackness and the teacher just stopped. Right. What the fuck is happening?
Starting point is 01:47:04 The student just went, you're not black, you shouldn't talk about this and the teacher was like, uh, okay. What is the subject though? I'm not exactly sure what it was. But my point is, but my point is there's a power dynamic. This is all, these are all like reflections of, of power dynamics. But now there's a power dynamics and the white teachers are terrified that they're
Starting point is 01:47:23 going to get in trouble. They're going to be called racist, that they're going to be, you know, that happened and more than just race too, by the way. That happens with sexuality. This is a function of this philosophy that they're teaching at the university level in America. And then these kids, they go take these ideas. and they think it's gospel.
Starting point is 01:47:39 They're like, oh, not only they think it's gospel, they actually, they have like hubris attached that. They're like, I'm smarter than everybody because now I understand this. So I'm going to bestow this wisdom upon the world. And they don't really understand the reality of what they're talking about and the real world applications of this. Like there are people that are Asian struggle and there are people that are Asian that are oppressed. There are white people that are oppressed.
Starting point is 01:48:02 They're black oppressors and they're black oppressed. I think it just depends on the lens you're looking through. Absolutely. Yes, you're right. I'm not even exaggerating. That's why I wrote this book. Right. And like literally, I wrote this book because of exactly what you just said.
Starting point is 01:48:16 Because what we're doing is we're blocking each other from having even conversations. Like, I would rather have a discussion with you than just tell you shut the fuck up. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, and if you do feel like that, you know, Ms. Jerkins, if she feels like, yo, Vlad shouldn't be in these conversations, give me a better reason than just because I'm white. Well, that, especially when it's not a, we're not talking race. I love that idea. I'm just talking about music.
Starting point is 01:48:41 I love, what if she was like, Vlad, I've seen the music you've mixed in your life. You're horrible at this. Shut the fuck up. Nothing about it. You know what the internet would say? Yeah, damn right. Great, great point, et cetera. Actually, maybe the internet would say nothing because it's too nuanced.
Starting point is 01:48:55 Yes. The internet might react even more to like a very low-hanging fruit argument, like, just shut up, hey, you're a white person. Yes. Because we all want the power to silence others that we disagree with. And can we flip it? I saw people saying Vlad is only doing this because she's a black woman.
Starting point is 01:49:10 No. Vlad did this because she's a professor at Princeton and Vlad knows there's somebody he could act or somebody he could contact to get this woman in some trouble. He even says this to her. Go to the next slide. The next slide, he literally says to her.
Starting point is 01:49:23 Don't try to change your words now. I'll be reaching out to Princeton. No, the next one. It's the next one. Glad said good luck being a professor at Princeton again. I doubt the university supports their faculty telling non-black students to shut the fuck up about anything hip hop related
Starting point is 01:49:34 because of their skin color. Morgan says, make it a little bigotailer, which is not even what I said. I find it funny that you specifically chose to respond to me, belittle my academic background and threaten my job when others responded to you in much harsher ways, very interesting and telling, but you got it. Now, Gladgo, this is exactly what you said. You're just backtracking now. I never belittle your academic background, just the opposite, actually. I'm pointing out that someone claiming to represent a top Ivy League university should be held to a higher standard. You're threatening your own job by publicly spewing bigotry or representing Princeton in your bio. I responded to you, and it's very important because all the other responses are from trolls and fake accounts.
Starting point is 01:50:12 You may want to think about getting a burner account like all the other bigots do. That's how they keep from getting fired, L.O.L. That is very true. That's why I say we have to remember who we are in these situations and in these circumstances. You can't just be on Twitter tweeting like regular idiots tweet because you're not a regular idiot in no way shape or form. The only reason Vlad even responded to her is because she's a professor at Princeton. And there was something for her to lose. If she was Morgan Jerkins with nothing in her bio, he didn't know what she did or anything like that. He would ignore it like he
Starting point is 01:50:46 ignored everything else. The fact she's a professor at Princeton is what made him reply like that. My suspicion is that in her circles, even the intellectual circles, saying something like that is sufficient and she would get no pushback, nothing from faculty, nothing from staff. And when you're around and surrounded by that type of, I wouldn't even call it intellectual community, that type of like almost sycophantic community or fearful community, of course you get the courage to go and message someone that on a public platform that will exist forever. Like, you have to have a level of delusion to think that's okay.
Starting point is 01:51:25 I think she was just excited excited but a lack of understanding of history too yeah I mean I can tell you as someone who was around for the beginning of hip hop what did every hip hop artist and label want in the first 10 years of hip hop badly good music production
Starting point is 01:51:43 good mixes and white fans oh yeah listen white audience 70% that was the biggest struggle was to find a cross they wanted The rock audience, rock dominated, the cultural landscape. Everything run DMC did in the beginning.
Starting point is 01:52:02 If you go back and watch the videos for Rock Box, King of Rock, little blonde kids winking and smiling, and it was all to try to encourage white people to listen to the music and come into the music. That was the entire strategy. Look at this, man. This abstract, this, I think, I don't, I think, is the study called abstract?
Starting point is 01:52:23 I'm not sure. So it's like, so it's like, hey, we, want the white dollar, but shut up about your opinions. Once I buy it, I got an opinion. You got an opinion. If it's a restaurant and I eat the food and I go, well, I would actually, shut up, white boy, what the fuck is going on over here? I bought the food.
Starting point is 01:52:39 If you want to a Jamaican spot, they do that to everybody, to be fair. But they're, they're eating offenders. The ruder people are in the Jamaican spot, the better than the food because they know. They know what time it is. Look at this. This study explores why young white suburban adults are consumers in fans of hip hop music, considering it is a black cultural art form that is specific
Starting point is 01:52:57 to African Americans. While the hip hop music industry is predominantly black studies consistently showed that over 70% of its consumers are white. So listen, I'm not mad at Professor Jerkins for saying, hey, the customer is not always right. Okay. But they are the customer. They are the customer.
Starting point is 01:53:13 And they can have an opinion. My biggest thing is, it had nothing to do with race. It had nothing to do with race. It was about a mix. It had nothing. nothing to do with race in any way shape or form. Well, I think at the core of it had nothing to do with race, but people definitely felt away about the you're always rapping like you're trying to
Starting point is 01:53:32 free the slaves bar and having his white mom intro the record with her about Blame Kendrick for all. No. Kendrick started all this climate. Because that occurred, black people were triggered. So I think start like a- They don't want to hear Vlad's saying, no. Right now, none of y'all can say it because I'm mad about the-
Starting point is 01:53:51 By the way, Vlad has never said it, but that's just my new way of saying they don't want to hear from white people right now. Yeah. We don't want to hear you say nigger no more. I think that's what it was. I think people were triggered from the Free the Slaves Bar and the Of course. We don't want to hear y'all opinion about swimming, but we'll listen to it.
Starting point is 01:54:07 We'll listen to it. We're not going to say, shut up, stop talking about swimming. We got any more build. But you out here talking about Michael Phelps was slow and about, eh, shut up. We got to be. But you should be entitled to talk about Michael Phelps, even though y'all can't do a stroke at all. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:54:22 But we all should be entitled to talk about it. We got any more bills to bring? Oh, Blue True. Blue True. Do a Blue True show. I got you. Let's come back and do some asking idiots. Blue Choo and stop saying nigger.
Starting point is 01:54:34 Whoa, I never said that. I don't know at the 50sson concert. I never said it. I didn't mouth it either, but I was trying really hard. I don't know what you heard about me. This is fun. Now, this is the funniest meme ever. Jonathan Mayer's hearing everything Drake said about Kendrick
Starting point is 01:54:51 and him still have a rap career. Joe, man, he's like, y'all, I got to switch it up. Oh, my God. That is terrible. The guy's amazing. It's like, what? What is going wrong? Drix said Kendrick is fucking white girls and beating his wife.
Starting point is 01:55:06 And I'm out here losing marple tails. And I was fucking the white girls and allegedly beat the, this what the fuck is going on? Should have been a rapper. Jonathan should have been a rapper. You should have been a rapper. You want to do bluechew? Yes, sir. Guys, this episode has been brought to you by heart.
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Starting point is 01:56:15 Oh, you got to do is pay $5 shipping. Now let's get back to the show. Let's do some asking idiots, Taylor. Yes. Taylor, let's do some asking idiots, Taylor. I'm just let you know that Ryan Garcia got cleared. I saw some of that. Yo, that's really interesting.
Starting point is 01:56:29 Really fucking interesting. I'm telling you can't believe shit no more, man. Why did that story even go out? Why did they even say that to Ryan Garcia? Yeah, I saw that earlier. Ryan Garcia cleared for one ban substance. Ryan Garcia requests be sample, be tested after failed drug test. Ryan Garcia cleared of one PED allegation, still faces scrutiny for Osterine.
Starting point is 01:56:50 Yeah They handle him because he's a pretty boy Yeah I mean Because he's a pretty boy like he said Yeah but you can't just throw some shit out there like No that's crazy That's crazy And you completely discredit it
Starting point is 01:57:04 Who put it out there like that's crazy And here's the other thing that's interesting is that Since he said so much wild shit You can believe You don't know what's true what's not true So when he was like no I never did steroids You're like Is he continuing to just say the wild shit
Starting point is 01:57:19 Or is he being serious now? Yeah Yeah, that's some diabolical stuff going on over there. What happens when you're betting and somebody gets in trouble for you? So I think it becomes a no contest and then based on or you lose or whatever and then based on that, based on what happened there, the payout would change. Oh, okay. I would imagine. It's like if you just bet on win loss and so Ryan Garcia won, but then let's say if they strip them from the wind because of the drugs, then.
Starting point is 01:57:50 I think it becomes a no contest. Oh, so you just get your money back, but you don't? Yeah, I believe. I mean, if you have steroids and you, so I think if you have steroids, your win becomes a no contest. If you lost and you're on steroids, it's still a loss.
Starting point is 01:58:07 Yeah, no, no, no. But they'll wipe away Devin's loss. Got it. Yeah, so Devin's loss will get wiped away. I guess you're clearly, your victory will get wiped away, too. But salute to Ryan, man. Ryan got me believing everything that he said about the aluminum. Now, facts.
Starting point is 01:58:22 They on his head. Facts. Taylor, let's do some asking idiots, please. Ooh, I like this. A Don says hypothetically, how much would someone have to pay y'all to get a BBL? Naila? Somebody's actually reached out to me and offered free surgery as long as I promoted it. But no money because I just don't want it.
Starting point is 01:58:44 Free surgery is really? Yeah. Who for you? Who the fucking dumb-ass doctor? You said what? Who's this stupid-ass doctor? Why? Because why I would not take no free surgery for no fucking shout-outs?
Starting point is 01:58:56 Who is the guy or girl? I don't know. It was a surgery page from Maryland. What do you want you to get? They said, check out our services, whatever you're interested. Let's have a consultation, but they want me to document the procedure. You looked? No.
Starting point is 01:59:12 You fucking looked, yo. What? What were you thinking? Because some things don't seem as traumatic as others. Like what? Um, the ad. situation doesn't seem traumatic. Abbs?
Starting point is 01:59:26 Yeah, the abs. Like, Drake said that he got stomach issues from that. Well, he didn't say it. Well, I didn't say it. I'm assuming. I'm assuming. Didn't he have stomach issues? I'm assuming.
Starting point is 01:59:36 You just made that up from no one. That was Drake said. You know, from from Drake said to I'm assuming. That shit is dangerous. That's crazy. But I just corrected myself. It's dangerous. I clearly corrected myself.
Starting point is 01:59:49 Drake said to I'm assuming. Well, nonetheless. I didn't want. I didn't. I literally just corrected myself. Calm down, lady man, whatever you called. Where'd you see this? Where did you see this homero?
Starting point is 02:00:01 How do you get mad at yourself or saying? I'm getting mad at y'allery, yes, and I said, I just corrected it. We don't ever get mad at you the way you get mad at you. And we should. I just corrected it. Like, what the hell? I just corrected it like instantly. So relax.
Starting point is 02:00:16 You thought about it to a teller? No. First of all, people already think that I have one. Have what? that I got surgery What for what way of what I've definitely got Accused getting surgery because
Starting point is 02:00:29 But what type of surgery? Because I'm thinking then Charlotte over then No but what what did you get Surgery? It's a traitor Yeah But what's surgery? Would I get one?
Starting point is 02:00:39 No no what are they accusing you of getting A fucking forehead transplant Call Say something Say something He said a joke Why don't even have your shades on right now? Why don't fuck can you win?
Starting point is 02:00:51 What is rough? Why are you angry in me? He insulted you. I'd say nothing in your angry. You're going to call me a lady boy again. Like I said. Thank you. What did you say?
Starting point is 02:01:03 He said that you got a forehead transplant, which was very insulting. I didn't say that. I don't know what to believe. Y'all like Kendrick and Drake. I don't know what the fuck to believe. I did not say that. You know somebody replicated Kendrick's website and it looks just like it,
Starting point is 02:01:19 but it's proof of all the things he's lying about. I got sent that yesterday, yeah. Y'all be getting, I'm so glad I stay off the internet. I got my little Instagram. Tell you, if he comes out with the proof and a banger, everybody's going to talk different. So you never thought about getting no surgery, Taylor? No.
Starting point is 02:01:34 Well, if I did, it would be like a knee surgery because I wouldn't be a little bit taller. Wow. I'm not saying. Taylor is the craziest. I mean, it is like, she don't need to say that. Hold on, hold on. We need to stop right now.
Starting point is 02:01:47 She's not trying. This is real. This is really who she is. I don't think you have broke with it. No, no, no. We know exactly what's going on right now. And we're all just trying to address it. Taylor thinks that someone's height comes from their knees.
Starting point is 02:02:02 This is great. Oh, God. I didn't see that. Yes, exactly. What the fuck? You said. I didn't say that. What did you said.
Starting point is 02:02:10 You're going to get bad at you again for telling me what she didn't say. You just said that, Taylor. I didn't say I think it comes from the knees. I'm just saying. Well, you said I would get a knee surgery. No, you know what? No, let her go to the doctor and tell the doctor. She wants to be taller.
Starting point is 02:02:23 She needs the knee surgery. Yo, can you get these ACLs out here? If that's what she believes, let her believe it, okay? The doctor will tell her otherwise. I don't like how you're touching your laptop right now. Yeah, because you know I'm about to smack the shit. Why you're so violent?
Starting point is 02:02:43 God, damn. I'm still mad at you from earlier, Shire. For what? Talk about my mom. Whoa. Wait. Not the mama jokes. I can not talk about your mama.
Starting point is 02:02:53 See you just be forgetting now. What I said about mama? No doubt. I'm not repeating it. What I said? I'm not repeating it. What did I say about mama, man? Oh, no, no. By the way, you said that about your mama.
Starting point is 02:03:04 Once again, gets mad at me for something she's saying. What she said? So I was like, yo, your mom reached out to me. And just lying. Stop fucking lying because my mind don't fucking reach out to you. Like, you're pissing me to fuck off. I think you don't got a fucking marriage. Calm the fuck down.
Starting point is 02:03:19 I didn't say anything. What I think all I said was she reached out to me, told me she had a good time at the festival. That's it. That's not the fuck happened. So then Taylor goes, Taylor goes, my mom, then she goes, you know what, I'm not going to tell you. And I go what? She goes, my mom says, why Charlemagne thinks he always get first dibs on my father? That's not how she said it.
Starting point is 02:03:40 That's what you said. That's what you said. That's not how I said it. That's not how I said it. And all I did was smile. Keep your tone. That's not how I. I said it.
Starting point is 02:03:51 All I did was smile. Like, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Oh, I can't wait to my dad's easier game. I'm going to tell him to fuck out. I'm going to tell him to knock him to fuck out. What have I done here? I'm going to tell him to knock you the fuck out.
Starting point is 02:04:05 I don't understand how you've been on this podcast so long. You still be jumping up to window. I don't care. I haven't done nothing. You should be used to this. No. I'm never going to get used to him trying to disrespect my parents' marriage. So stop playing.
Starting point is 02:04:17 To stop playing. Anything. No doubt. I haven't said nothing. No doubt. All I heard is that he looks. Taylor can do a disc record to herself. Taylor is the type to start writing a disc record about somebody else and at the end
Starting point is 02:04:28 you'd be like, I'm short from silly. You know what I'm saying? Got beat by Andrew Schultz and attract me. You know what I mean? She'll rap it in the booth, listen back to it and be like, yo, fuck, Taylor. You know what I'm saying? With the entitlement, Charlemagne did. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 02:04:45 This girl is insane. Mr. McSruff. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey. I don't want to move because Taylor did tell me one time, she said, she's like, do you know why black people are so tall? I was like, why?
Starting point is 02:05:03 And then she was like, because they're Negroes. Taylor, we don't want to hear you say Negro no more. Taylor, we don't want to hear you say Negro. That's the whole street joke. That's the whole street joke. What's the time? That's a joke. Is it based off of what I would get serious of that's your time to say?
Starting point is 02:05:28 Oh my God. What's going on? I don't get what you're talking about. No. Taylor, I thought you really said that. That's a Taylor joke. That is absolutely a tale of joke. That would be a good one.
Starting point is 02:05:40 She's going to use it. I did use it. She got to understand. Oh, yeah, what are you talking about? What do you mean? She still hasn't caught up. I haven't caught up. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Starting point is 02:05:51 You said, nah, nah, fuck all that. Taylor ain't a slick. Taylor ain't low, yo. Taylor will be trying to act clueless like we act clueless. But is she good at it? Because I'll be really lost. She's tapping that laptop again. I don't feel comfortable right now, yo, because I'm closest.
Starting point is 02:06:07 You're not going to take two more steps to get to you. She's going to start swinging in me first. Mr. McSruff said, if you had to, what's one skill you trade to have another? Good one. What's one skill you trade to have another? Man, I trade my knees to be in the way. the NBA.
Starting point is 02:06:26 I really would, bro. Like, when you think about it, I would give up both of my knees to be in the NBA with all those guys with no knees with all those Negro? With all those Negro? You would trade your knees in the NBA with all those Negro? I would. I would, bro. I would be honest with you.
Starting point is 02:06:42 I would, Taylor, I would. If that's what it takes. This whole time I thought I wasn't in the NBA just because I wasn't athletic enough. Turns out, I got two functional knees. Oh, my God. I blame my mom. I got my mom's knees. You got your mom's knees, bro.
Starting point is 02:06:55 My mom's knees, huh? God damn it. There's some good mama knee jokes right now. Yeah. Because Alex said himself right on the... He got his mom's knees. You got his mom's knees. Hal.
Starting point is 02:07:08 How? About to get tail in his bit. That's great. That's crazy. I got my mom's knees, huh? I did. That's how you get a job at. Bad boy in the 90s.
Starting point is 02:07:21 You just have your mom's knee. You just Scroll up there You just laugh It's just a joke I don't give a fuck I'm not you Damn
Starting point is 02:07:35 Damn damn Why did you do that This is a good one Moosey Lagasse says I was on them I just hit the knees You see me just hit the knees What skill would you trade
Starting point is 02:07:49 Nile that you have What would you trade DJing for? I can't think of nothing right now. Really? Yeah, I like my... Knitting? You know how to crochet. I love crocheting. I'm not trading that.
Starting point is 02:08:01 I love where I'm at. I love all my skills. I just want to get better at them. I feel the same way. I feel like if I trade any of my skills, it'll fuck up the recipe. Yeah. I keep everything the way that it is.
Starting point is 02:08:12 What have you guys learned or understand about people when building your teams? Ooh, good question. Fantastic question. What you got, Schultz? What if you learned or understand about people build your team's like higher competence. That's
Starting point is 02:08:27 at least for me it's like the most competent people can kind of figure they'll be able to figure most jobs out so like that's the first thing I'm looking for just like can you solve problems and are you competent that's yeah
Starting point is 02:08:43 so I think that's very helpful. What about you Charlotte? What have you guys learned to understand about people? I'm actually really interested in hearing this from you. When building your teams I think I'm still learning, yo. Because I got a good, I got a, I got a good team. But I think what I'm learning is you have to have people who know what it is they want to do.
Starting point is 02:09:18 I think that's very important. Yeah, like you have to know people like if you want to, if you're a producer, you want to be a producer, that's what you do. That's where all your energy goes. That's what you focus on. Yeah. If you want to be a manager and you put all your producer. and you put all your energy, you put all your focus into being a manager.
Starting point is 02:09:33 Whatever it is that you choose to do, you have to do that. I think a lot of people don't focus on what it is they want to do anymore. They focus on what it is they want out of it. And I think nowadays a lot of people really do want attention. They really do want fame.
Starting point is 02:09:48 I don't even know if they even, they want money, but I think they want those other things more because they think all of those things bring money. And I think that when you have a team like that, when you have a team where everybody wants to be a point guard, that's not going to work. Yep.
Starting point is 02:10:05 Everybody literally has to play a position. I agree. I think that when you look at certain entities, right, like, and you see Andrew Schultz, or you see Kevin Hart, or myself, anybody. Like, you'd be surprised when you look behind the curtain and see everything that's behind this. Like, it's not just me. Like, if I show you what I pay in commissions, you'd be like, God damn, I get pissed off who want to fire everybody,
Starting point is 02:10:29 just off looking at the fucking commissions. But then you realize none of this happens without a team. Like this book right here, this book is not just me sitting around with a fucking laptop. It's just me. It's Chris. Then you got book agents like, you know,
Starting point is 02:10:43 Jan Miller, and you got, you know, my business partner, you got all of these people that come together to make this one thing go. And then even when you just talk about the promotion of this book, like there's a whole promotional team,
Starting point is 02:10:55 there's a marketing team. Like you, but it's a bunch of people, who play their position to make sure this is successful. That's it. Facts. You know, it's very hard for a lot of humans to play their position to make sure one thing is successful.
Starting point is 02:11:14 Yep. But you realize it's not about an individual. Like, it's about a business. Yeah. And if you look at it like that and you're part of the business, all you want is to be your best self so the business can thrive. can thrive. If the business thrives, we all good.
Starting point is 02:11:30 And I think that's the biggest thing, man. Like, I'm really, I've ran into a lot of people who have a lot of talent and they're good at what it is that they do. They just don't want to do what it is they're good at. And they're too focused on other things. And that causes shit to fuck up and it doesn't make for a good team. Yeah. Joel and B, you're not playing point guard. You got to play your position.
Starting point is 02:11:54 You got to play your motherfucking position. And I think that's the That's the hardest thing For people to learn and understand Super well said Because sometimes when people aren't paying their positions They might resent the fact that You are and then you got to manage that
Starting point is 02:12:07 Really, it's a great point Knowing what they want to do And then also embracing their role That's right As part of it. Yeah, that's a great point Brinianianian has been around for 11 years Yeah This is our 500th episode
Starting point is 02:12:20 Yeah And it's because we play off a fucking position Amen And we enjoy it. We enjoy it. We enjoy it. It is a fun process. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:28 This has been, this is, other than Breakfast Club, this is like the most consistent thing I've done all the time for the last 11 years. Same. And I enjoy it. Yeah. I enjoy coming here and doing what it is that we do. Yeah. And I mean, that's, that's it. All I got to do is show up, but I'm not, I don't do the, I'm not doing.
Starting point is 02:12:50 I'm not doing what Alex is over there doing. I'm not doing with Taylor's doing. Taylor's doing. I'm not doing what Chris is doing and the rest of the team out there is cameras in here. All I do is sit here. Come here and sit down. And that feels so good to be able to do.
Starting point is 02:13:02 Yeah. That is one of my biggest pet peeves in other places. Yeah. You have to do all these other things. Yeah, damn. I wish I could just come sit my ass down somewhere. I mean looking like the Popeye's chicken ladies sitting outside of the fucking Popeye.
Starting point is 02:13:15 You know what I'm saying? Like that's the thing. So it's like, yeah, when you find people that know what it is that they want to do and you build that team around, you know, whatever, whatever's bringing the money in. It's a beautiful thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:30 By the way, if you're on the team and you can bring the money in, if you can be that, we'll figure out how to make that happen too. That should be the key to the game. Like, you don't want to be the person, be the main money maker forever. Like, the point is to build up other people. You know what I mean? But people can make so much money doing. what it is that they do, man, because
Starting point is 02:13:55 I know right now it shows there's probably people wanting to tap your team. Yeah. For production. Sure. Absolutely. The videos, y'all do. You know what I'm saying? Like, when we at WTF, how many people probably see us shooting at WTF?
Starting point is 02:14:11 And they're like, oh, shit, I'm gonna start going to WT. I want that. Yeah. Like, it all works hand in hand. Absolutely. But everybody just got to play their position. I tell you that all the time with the tailor-made shit. You're doing all this production for people, people are going to hear and they're going to be like, I need that.
Starting point is 02:14:25 I want to get that. I need that. Next thing, you know, Taylor, making all kinds of types of money. That's what this shit is about. Everybody figuring out what it is you want to do and everybody just playing their position and doing it. That is a very hard thing for some people to learn and a very hard thing for some people to understand.
Starting point is 02:14:41 And that's why teams aren't great teams and you got to keep trading players and cutting people and bringing folks in. Yeah. Perfectly said. That's it, guys. I think that's great. You think we did it? Yeah, I just think it's a great description of like building a business, especially
Starting point is 02:14:58 in like a creative endeavor. And it's people don't realize it. Like it's, it's oftentimes hard to watch somebody really love what they do if you're not loving what you do. You can get resentment. So like building that with the people that really wanted to. Yeah, it's just, it's really well said, dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:13 It's really well said. I'm sure you've gone through this probably for decades where you saw the things that worked and didn't work and that's how you've come to. I imagine that's how you came to it. Yeah. Absolutely. I can tell you, I can tell you exactly why people don't get to where they need to be. Why? But the sad part is you don't, like, like, there can be somebody who's so talented.
Starting point is 02:15:32 You can, you know, start doing business with them or put them on the team. And then you ever been around somebody and you see how talented they are? And you like, man, why isn't that person doing this or why isn't that person doing that? And then you put them on the team and you realize why. You're like, oh. Yeah, yeah. That's why you ain't getting what you want out of this. this shit. I totally understand now. Waved again. Now you're a free agent. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:15:59 You got your shot though. You got your shot. You got your shot. You got your shot. As always, thank you, man. Thank you to the listeners, man. 500 episodes. Crazy. 11 years in this game. You know, we continue to grow. Shost just sold out the garden. You know, thank you guys so much to everybody who came and everybody who just said congratulations and who's just been part of this journey. And it just really means a lot. That was my dream and comedy. Everything else after this is icing on a cake, but yeah, it just made my whole
Starting point is 02:16:28 career, man, so it just really feels awesome. You're inspiring people, bro. I'm super inspired. Like, highly, highly, highly, highly inspired because you got it out the motherfucking mud. I had help from good friends like you, man. Man, you're the reason I don't believe in white privilege, really, to be honest with you. I'm glad I could do that for me. I'm genuinely
Starting point is 02:16:50 glad I could do that for you. I'm like, I I don't know, man. Andrew worked too hard. You work a little too hard. I'm not sure. Maybe a little white privilege. Not even mad at him. Maybe somewhere else.
Starting point is 02:17:05 I don't know. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But you listen to this podcast and you think we're a couple idiots
Starting point is 02:17:14 who don't know shit, you're right too. It's a very idiotist podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace.

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