The Brilliant Idiots - BBL DID (Ft. Pour Minds Podcast, Navv Greene, Nyla Symone & Mouse Jones)

Episode Date: September 1, 2022

While Andrew Schulz is away, Charlamagne was joined by the ladies of the Pour Minds Podcast and comedian Navv Greene where they discussed turning on and off their professional voice, woman and men getting surgery, relationships and if Drea set up Lex getting hit by a car! Afterwards, Charlamagne sits down with Mouse Jones and Nyla Symone for some hip hop talk, specifially breaking down Jay-Z's verse on "God Did". ************************************************************* Check out Pour Minds Podcast https://www.pourminds.com Check Out Navv Greene https://www.instagram.com/navvgreene/?hl=en Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Stream Charlamagne "Hell of a Week" on Paramount Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" https://www.blackeffect.com/ Empty Thoughts Podcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-zRsExS9E0VBmwb9Cekdug/featured https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/empty-thoughts-show/id1622292632 Empty Thoughts IG/Tik Tok https://www.instagram.com/emptythoughtsshow/ https://www.tiktok.com/discover/empty-thought-show Check Out "Summer Of 85" on Audible www.audible.com/pd/Summer-of-85-A…areTest=TestShare Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I love the premise of this show. Smart people talking about dumb shit. I think it's dumb people talking about smart shit. Oh, we go where we're not supposed to go, baby. Yep, Charlemagne de God. My guy Andrew Schultz is not here this week. He is at Burning Man. Doing whatever the hell they do at Burning Man.

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whether it's on 85 South Shore or their own podcast. We have the ladies from Poor Minds, Lex and Dre here. And we got the hilarious Nav Green here. What's going on? What's happening, Nav? Hey. Nav, I asked you, do you like New York, man? It's cool.

It's just different. You're from Atlanta, right? Yeah. Okay. So like if I'm walking, like I like that the food places be open late. I must say, I do like that. Okay. Do you really eat as much as you put on that?

I know you're vegan, though. It's always a mindset with the vegan, though, because I had a lot of vegan. People attacked me because they, you know, they didn't understand the way I'm vegan. How do you vegan? I eat regular food, but I treat it as a vegan plant-based product. I get it. make sense. And I mean, the way they make plant-based products nowadays, you know, when I see you eating some beef ribs, I'm like, well, maybe it is plant-based. Who am I to say it's not?

It's a mind-stake. It's what you identify. It identifies as plant-based. Oh, so it's like transplant. No, for real. No, that's out of bounds. You said you like the restaurants open? That's all you? Yeah, I like that part. But I'm saying, like, people like, they always moving, like, they don't stop the talk. You know how you might be like, hey, what's going on? Like, they just keep walking. And that's scary when you're from the South, because I'm from South Carolina.

Because, like, you know, you say peace sometime or hello because you're testing the waters. Let me make sure the temperature right. Somebody don't say it back. You know, you got your guard up now. Right. You might hold a door open for somebody. They keep going there and any. Like, that's a conversation starter.

Right. Yeah. In Atlanta, I'd be like, appreciate that, bro. Where you from? Right. I'm going from now. You be asking people, where are you from when they hold it off you? No.

Nah. you don't took it somewhere else. What did you mean? Like I'm saying, they're not just holding the door. Like, I'm saying they can start. Like, you know how you might get on the elevator, yeah. Like, you don't hear the, if I hold the elevator for him, you'd be like, appreciate that way.

Thank you, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you'd be like, where you from? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I did that for, you know what's so funny. I did that for Monique back in the day, and Monique said, I held the door for her something. It was years, years ago, like 06, 07. And she said,

uh, thank your mommy and your grandma for me, baby. You know what I mean? Oh, my God. They raised a good young man, you know? So she really talks like that, for real. Oh, yeah. Well, because every time I see her on social media, she's like, my sweet baby. Yeah.

Sweet baby. And I'm like, did she really, like, talk like that for real? Yeah, 100%. I like that. 100%. That's how you're going to talk with you all do. I'll talk like that now. What you mean?

Do y'all switch it up? Lord, have mercy. What do you see? My sweet baby. Mama appreciate you. That's a form of cold switching, though. Because you don't talk like that. like that no other time.

You know, I'm a major cold switcher. Like, I am not, like, I'm a completely different person. Like, when I'm around somebody I like, like, I'm very, believe it or not, a soft person. Dre has seen that side of me. What's your sign? I'm a Leo. Oh, okay, okay. My second daughter's a Leo.

Yes, I'm a Leo. She's hard-headed, don't listen. Really? Oh, Lord have mercy. Yes, I'm very hard-headed. So, possessor. All right, for like.

Y'os are possesses. Yeah, the Leo's possessed. She is possesses. I knew she was possesses. I knew she was possesses when, during the breakfast Club interview, she said she can cheat, but the other, the man can't. Period. You mine. What kind of logic is there? It's not logic.

Nothing about me is logical. Everybody knows that at this point. Would you say you like water, meaning that, you know, you adjust to whatever thing you're in? Yeah, I feel like the way I grew up, like, I've been in so many different spaces around so many different people. So I'm still myself, you know, I can just, I can adapt. I can adapt.

When you talk about coach, which when you used to work at your, the job. Oh, absolutely. Who was the voice like? I was like, when I would answer the phone, I'd be like, hi, thank you for calling Regis. This is Lex. How may I help you today? Oh, absolutely.

Mr. Rogers, your office is ready for you. You know, I was really. You had one, Dreda. You were the boss and there's no professional voice. Okay, so when I first graduated from college, I actually worked at two oil and gas companies in Houston. Okay. So, like, the first one, it was like a contract,

and I was working there for a year. year than the second one I got hired and I was getting paid salary. And y'all had my little professional voice. Let me hear it. I used to be like, per my last email. But she still had the ass and a skirt. That's how you put people together in a professional way. Her supervisor used to hate on her because she was fine.

I really feel like that's why I got laid off. Oh, Lord. Too much ass. Because I did. I got laid off for no reason. Like I thought she was going good. That pencil skirt. They called me in their office.

I said, me. They were moving in another direction. Yeah. They were like, well, we're going to give you a severance package for your troubles. How much that was for? It was for like 10,000. Damn. But I was, and I was only there for like seven, eight months.

And then that's when I decided to move to Atlanta. Like, I moved to Atlanta like five months later. That's a big ass severance package. What the hell they did to you that they gave you $10,000 and not talk about it? I don't know. But the crazy thing is, like, I used to get all type of great benefits. Like I said, I was there for like seven, eight months. And I had got like a $3,000 bonus for Christmas.

What? After being there for like three, four months. It was called Intervest. What was the cost? Intervest. It's still open, too, in Houston. That's why they fired you. Some man up there liked you because they ain't no way in hell.

Now, what's your professional voice? We just heard it. We did. What you mean? Y'all just heard it. Because he's on the phone with Delta. I was calling Delta to get some free Skymiles. He got him.

I got him. What did you say? Hey, uh, hold on, wait a minute. Because I don't really know how to fake it. Like, I got to be in that moment. Delta, how can I help you? Hello. So yesterday, I'm trying not to be upset because I was upset last night, but I've calmed down a little bit now. The flights kept getting pushed back and delayed. I had a very important meeting.

And is it any way you could compensate me for my troubles? Because now I'm gold status with Delta. Okay. And a lot of people was arguing at the desk, and the morale was very low. And I didn't want to go up there and be. you know, be, you know, join the mix. So if anything you could do to help me, and she asked me for my confirmation, and I said, that's H as in hotel, I is in India, J as in Julio, four as in four, L as in Lima. We was like, four as in four as in four.

Four as in four is wild. That makes sense, though. Jay as in Julio? Because I have an accent, that might throw a light. But Jay as and Julio does not make sense. And I said, after I got out the phone, I said, I should have said a jazz as in Juliet. Julio makes all of this.

You're from Atlanta. Atlanta Falcons. Julio Jones. Yeah. That's perfect sense. All right. I'm saying. You're supposed to say a letter

that it sounds like. Like, Julio, like when you hear that. Okay. But I never meant nobody named Julio and then start with an age. I mean, of course, but I'm saying you're supposed to so they can hear it clear.

If I was so off track, how did she pull up my confirmation number? Got to get her together now. That's true. Points were made. We all know how to spell Julio. And it may not be because of Julio Jones, but it's definitely because of Don Julio to kill.

Right. Come on now. The only reason we know it starts with a Jay is because that Don Julio bottle. Reposato or Blanco? I like Repasado. I like Reposado. You wouldn't do, man.

You don't want to drink Blanco. I like Blanco too, but I like Cassa Drigona's Blanco. I like Repasado and the Don Julio. Yeah, Arda Inejo, with his 1942 is Anyjo. Hey, hey. You get him too. Yeah, you're talking to little fans, bro. We ain't there yet

I ain't doing nothing for the two I don't like Casamigos no more man Really? That's how they drink Really? I think they mass producing it now So it don't taste like it used to It used to taste more aged

It don't taste like that no more I'm not a tequila person anymore I went back to vodka I feel like when you start drinking Everybody starts with vodka And then you go to your tequila Then you may go to like Hennessy and Jack and all that stuff

Well, I'm a little older, so I started with Mad Dog 22. Oh, I'm weird. I was about to say I started with four loco. And Jen. Well, let me not act like I'm not old, too, like I wasn't sipping my mama, Al-Azay. You know why that secret gym? Yes, sir. And Nouveau.

Yep, I had the Al-Ovo. Oh, my God. We had Navajo. That was what everybody was on. When I was, like, little, I used to stick my mom's like Al-Azee a little bit. Like, you know, just to taste it. So, listen, do you switch up your alcohol depending on who you dating? No, I always.

A vodka men, some men, a tequila, men, some men, a tequila, something in a cognac. I'm Kinsee Stint with my I want my Tito's period. Like it'll be like when I'm dating somebody and we go to the club and like they're getting bottles. Like I'll literally have my own Tito's bottle because nobody else drinks it but me. Yeah. People don't know that's Michael Jackson brothers

Vaca. Well, shit hell up. Tito. No, for real, yeah. Tito Jackson. Really? Oh, it. I ain't here to It's a convention. It's a Texas Baca. Google it. I don't believe you. I never took you for a lot, Charlemagne. Tito Jackson invested in that vodka a long, long time ago.

Where you would have seen the commercial. You would have seen the commercial right now. You wouldn't buy it if it was Tito Jackson in the car. I wouldn't know. Exactly. Why not? Is that the one with the hair? Yeah?

Oh, wow. I think I know. I was serious. What? What are you hearing? I did tell y'all that. What are you looking at? That's correct.

Tito Jackson. It's different Tito Jackson's though. Okay. We're with Michael Jackson, brother, Tito. You got to be specific. That is Michael Jackson's brother, man. It says, brother. This says Brother Beverage.

I mean, he's the founder of it, but Tito Jackson invested in it back in the day and they named it after. Oh, okay. Well, I can believe that, like, he's an investor. That makes it more sense. Don't repeat that, though. I'm definitely not. You ain't got to worry about that. Let's talk about some things that are going on, man.

You're from Georgia, Nav. You from Atlanta. You're from Atlanta, right? You're from Texas originally. Yeah. You from Atlanta. Oh, both of you all. I'm from Houston.

Oh, both of you are from Houston. No. Oh, no. She's from orange. Better get it right. What's the difference? Fruit City all day. That's what they say,

that somebody last week said Megan Estagia and I really from Houston. She's from. No, she's really from Houston. That's what they said. San Antonio. No, she's really Houston. You knew her growing up?

No, I didn't know her growing up, but I know a lot of people that, no, she, a lot of people that she went to school with, like I know. Okay. Yeah, she's definitely from Houston. I feel like she would fuck with y'all heavy if she...

Man, I cannot wait. I want her to come on the show. Yeah, she should do Paul mine. I would love. Love it. And a lot of our listeners, like, they've been waiting on that. They be asking. They definitely be older.

Is that like your dream guest? Um, yeah, I think it's one of them. Yeah, we would definitely love to do an episode with me, you know. Um, it's a lot of people that we would like to have, you know, but we're working our way up. You know how, you know how I go. Nassie, you said you would love that too. Yeah. Like what you see.

You want to be in a studio that day. Yeah, I'll be a PA that day. I'll be a camera operator style. You know she got a whole man now. Party, Partisan Fontaine. You know, like, not to judge people, but, like, you know, if you see somebody talk to somebody, you feel like you

got more of a change. Oh, now, Steve, why would you think that? Party, you're in that party? No, I- He got jokes, too, now. I was talking about Torrey Lane. Did she talk to him? Oh, God.

So, I'm saying, because, like, you know how you think a woman went like a shorter man? Yeah. So I'm like, okay, short, ain't out the ballpark. Yeah. Nah, I got to just make sure she's like way around at me. Right. Hey, I do respect all women who likes your men.

Like back of the day, like when I was out here in these streets, all my other joints were taller than me. Really? Yeah, like 5-9, 5-10. Not you like to climb trees. What you're talking about? Oh, we. I love it.

But I guess because I like to be like feel nurtured. You know what I'm saying? You like to be the little spoon? Yeah. Oh, that is so funny. They be so tall and stuff. So it's just like they, you know, treat you like a little baby or like. So it's legs tall enough when she need to be a little taller.

I'm pretty tall for a woman. Yeah, with heels on, you'd be tall. Yeah, like, I feel a lot of times when people meet me at the live show, they'd be like, oh, you're not as big as you say you are, but you got to realize I'm hanging out with somebody who's 5'2 all day. Damn. No, not in a bad way. Dreya is little. She's very tiny.

Dreya is very little. So, like, out of all my friends, like, I'm the tallest. I'm big. Like, it's a lot. I'm Nick, too. I'm like 5-8. Okay, okay. But I'm like, I'm 5-8-180.

Like, I'm not like a little girl. Like, 80? Yeah, I was 210. I didn't got, I lost some weight. She's a little slim thing. Not because of the stress. I just chop things off my body when I feel like it. What?

I'm a surgery, mommy. You got, you had surgery? I love surgery. I get surgery like every day. I did not know that. What surgery did you be? I recently got my breast done. But don't that add weight?

No, you got them reduced Yeah, they used to be really, really big Oh, your back was hurting Oh man Look, Auntie can only stand up for so long So I was on stage And it just wasn't working So I was like, let me stop by

Get them chopped up real quick Dr. Miami? No, but actually he was across the street Of the doctor that I went to What else you got done? I've got LIFO I got BBLs, fillers, bowtops

Hey, look, I cannot tell I'm not even joking That's good I mean, that's... I should get natural-looking surgery. Absolutely. I've always been, like, just minor things. Like...

Well, how does one get plant-based surgery? How do you get, like, organic surgery? Organic surgery? I think it's all about doing your research, but also I've never had the image of, like, oh, I want to look like her. It's always like, okay, you know what? I got this right here.

I want to round it out a little bit. I just look at my... I'm my own body goals. So I'm just like, okay, let me just plump this up a little bit. Let me slim this down a little bit. I never look at somebody else and try to have their body.

Nav, do you care about natural bodies? Like, you know, man, long as they don't change the front. What's the front? What? You know he... As long as they never miss with the transmission. Oh, I'm weird. I need the vagina?

Yeah, don't touch that. But what about if it needs some rejuvenation? Need a little tightening up. No, don't touch that. Really? A lot of girls are giving the vaginal rejuvenation. Yeah. What's that?

But I'm like, how do you get to a point to where it need to be rejuvenating? I mean, if you had a few kids. But I heard it snapped. snap back. You said, what? If you sneeze and it get a little loose, you might need that rejuvenation. If you sneeze and you peeze and your head hon come out,

that's wild. You got a snap back. Yeah, I feel like when you had a couple kids, like, you know, it's a muscle down there, so things can get a little weak. Y'all do kegles, though, right? Yeah. Absolutely.

You have to. They do butt kegles in Atlanta out here. I am weak. Namsay. I don't know about that, bro. I bet. You bought it raised in Atlanta? Yeah, that ain't, yeah.

I always wonder, like, you know, when you meet real Atlanta natives, the real Atlanta natives are different than the people who moved there and started rapping Atlanta. Yes, absolutely. But then some of the transplants help make Atlanta what it is we know today.

Mm-hmm. So it depends. If they're doing good, you know, you've got to claim them and uphold them. But soon as they start messing up, hey, that ain't from Atlanta. Would you climb me in legs? Who?

For right now, you're doing. yeah. Who? I said, well, he claimed the LA. Oh, yeah, they claimed Atlanta, yeah,

I'm rocking with now. So when Shorty made that song, what was her name? Amarretta. Amaretta. Was that an accurate song? 93% of it. Okay.

Yeah. The only reason that, because it was, sir, she was weighing Cobb County doing it, though. She was supposed to be downtown with it.

Yeah. Is Cobb County, Atlanta? No. Not really. No. You know, don't nobody from Atlanta not understanding.

Who? 14 County. What? Thornton County is Atlanta. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she kind of said my school in Atlanta. That's when I turned the song on the end. And you're from East Atlanta.

Yeah, I was like, hey, whoa, you're going too far. What school is it? Matt now. Okay. That is Atlanta, though. To me, according to me, but not to her. But to me, East Atlanta is still close. She said if that East on there, if you got to do all that, it's not at length.

And where's she from? She in the city. Oh, okay. But I like how she said Clayco is not Atlanta, and we all know, like, that's what Lotto represents. And Lotto still got on the remix. I thought that was cute. Yeah, but you got to know, like, in Atlanta, if you see somebody and they say, like, where are you from? You say where you from.

But if you're out of town and somebody be like, where you from, you just say Atlanta, because I'm not from a breakdown to say Clayton County. Right, right. But who didn't, he ain't walk or flocking from Clayton County. Yeah. He read that. Yeah. If you listen to the music.

Now, see. I think it's mom. Yeah, his mom was born in Queens, I believe. Because you're just messy. No, that's true. I heard he was really from New York. Now, he's not really from New York. I mean, like, born here.

I don't know. That's a good question. I don't know. Now, I wanted to ask y'all about, you know, the DA and Fulton. What's her name? The DA in Atlanta, Taylorport. Oh, man. Angela Valde is.

What's her name? She's trying to get him to hell up out of now. Um, yeah, Fannie Willsler. Oh, yeah. Play this clip if you can't tell. She's blinking. I was like she means business. She don't play.

On mute, you could tell she talking that shit. They gotta go. Have y'all seen the clip? I haven't seen it. Hold on, hold on. I know it's just like the rest of them. This is her speaking on using rap lyrics. I'm not targeting anyone, but however, you do not get to commit crimes in my county.

and then decide to brag on it, which you do that for a form of intimidation and to further the gang and not be held responsible. One of the lyrics used in this indictment, just one of the lyrics is, me and my crew striking out, striking in all black, send me the drop, we'll kick in the house. If we're still a car, we're going to take off the tag. Well, they kick it indoors, committing home invasions, and now I'm using those lyrics that they're admitting to doing that. I'm going to continue to do that. people can continue to be angry about it. I have some legal advice. Don't confess to crimes on rap lyrics if you do not want them used,

or at least get out of my county. She is. When she said, my county, you know she's serious. Yeah. But I feel like... She said, not on my wife. What does she say wrong? I mean, I feel like we all know that a lot of people are dramatic

when they're writing songs sometimes. So that can necessarily not be true. Well, I think what people are missing here, that they're not locking people up, you know, just because of their lyrics. They locking people up because they're done did some shit. They've been investigated, and this is all part of the investigation. And if you did do a crime, why would you get on a record and confess to it? I mean, I agree with you on that, but I also feel like she's trying to maybe make an example out of them, too.

Like, I feel like it's more than that. Like, I feel like maybe she's just fed up with how it was everything that's been going on in Atlanta, but I feel like she is making an example out of them. She should be, though, right? Yeah, she's not wrong. I just wish she would have waited until after the summer. That's what I'm saying. Donna had Jeff.

I'm saying. No. She was supposed to get a thugged. He was about to have a concert. Like, man. He was about it was about. But she wasn't talking about Gunning Thugden. That was another gang that's been running around doing home invasions in Atlanta.

She should have got them first thing. Yeah. She's so damn right now. You should have got them. And wait a lot. on gunner. He just had drop push and beat. Man, I'm telling you, Charlie, man, we'd be crying in the club.

They started doing the gunner men. Kier just started flowing. Oh, man. I honestly don't think they got nothing on gunner. No, he's, I don't think. Yeah, I don't think they got nothing on gunner. I don't, I don't know, I don't really know Thug's situation that well. It don't seem like they got much on Thug either.

Well, it seems like the stuff that I've been, like, reading, like somebody from their camp is allegedly in there, like, telling on everybody. And that's why they haven't been able to get out. Well, what about, and I'm not talking about why I sell, but what about, you know, that crew right there, if somebody they committed these crimes and somebody already got on a record and told everything,

isn't that snitching too? I mean, kind of. And lock them up. We don't know. You ain't criminalizing yourselves. You guys start stopping them in the, hey, hey, man, cut that. That's right.

I don't delete their line. I went with you, nigga cut. Right. That's true, though. Unfortunately, your song's not hard enough, so we don't care. When you make good music, that's what we care. We're going to talk about free gunter. So you should go to jail.

You're saying, leave him in there. Yeah, y'all can stay. Y'all can stay. We do it exchange. Yeah. I know a million other rappers they could have got. In Atlanta. Names and names, Nass.

That needs to be arrested. Some of these things need to be arrested. Get a little nausea. Man, stop. Come on. Well, Nazax ain't bother nobody. All right, a little scrapping. Let's scrappy.

God, what's scrappy do? He made no hits. He ain't dropped no fire in a while. He's not in a minute. I mean, I feel you, though. If you ain't doing nothing, take the niggas. You ain't doing that productive? Oh, my God.

Stop, man. Scrappy a good, too. No, I don't have no problem. I rock with scrapping. But if we could trade him for gun him? No. Come on, Sean. No.

I don't want to see none of them brothers in. I don't either. But if we had a choice, if I could write DA Willis a letter. I just, you know what I, you know what, that crew she's talking about right there. I got a real problem with people that do home invasions, man. Oh, yeah. I'm not. And you know what?

Not only that, they've actually been targeting women. A lot of women is their houses that have been getting broken. Celebrity women, too, influence them. They would come for y'all in a heartbeat. Oh, but see, that's why I said I'm not moving. I like, I live in a high rise. I'm not moving somewhere that doesn't have concierge for a long time. It's security, 24-hour security, because it's just too crazy.

Our gated community or something. Right, right, right. I mean, but I feel like even with the gated communities, most of these women are living in gated communities. They'd be trailing the cars and stuff like. They'd be putting trackers in people cars. They said the trackers, and they say they monitor social media heavy. Right.

They watch y'all, they see what y'all are driving, they see what y'all wearing, they see the money y'all take out the bank. I'd be telling people don't post until you really leave a spot. Right, right. And a lot of things, women get, dropped off with Uber too. Like if you live in the house, you're getting dropped off at a little.

Yeah, a lot of that. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I have a real problem with home invasions, man. I don't have no remorse for people that commit home invasions. Yeah, that's a little different. When you're kicking somebody's door,

like in that case right there, they said somebody kicked in somebody's door. It was a 14-year-old girl, a 15-year-old girl in the shower or something, and they put the gun to her and took her downstairs. Like, nah, fuck you. Yeah, yeah. Throw you under the jail.

But I feel like people are moving different now. Like, there used to be like, a code, I feel like, like, people didn't mess with kids or mess with, you know, older women, things like that. I feel like women in general, yeah, I feel like people are just kind of running crazy right now. So maybe she is right. We need a little more structure. The child just got shot at a park in Atlanta, I think, a couple weeks ago.

So it's like, like a seven-year-old or something like that. So it's like to the point, like, come on, man. These kids, like, they got a whole life ahead of them. That's right. You snatching that away from them on some sense list. Right. You just shooting. Right.

They ain't even hit the person you're trying to shoot. Right, exactly. I'm not mad at her, okay? I'm really not mad at her because... Oh, you support you will vote for Fannie Willis again. Here's the thing. I want us to be smarter as people. You know what I mean?

Number one, I don't want us committing any crimes, but I understand, like, you know, the socioeconomic factors that play a part in the people going to a life of crime. But also, if you're going to commit crimes, I come from the area where you didn't even talk on the phone. Nonetheless, get on a record and rap about it. Right, right.

Let's get on social media and record it and tell her. They go live when they're doing it. God damn. You're asking to go to jail. And if somebody is that bold, it's like, man, you got to get them off the street. Bro, social media is like evil. It's a drug. Yeah, it's like the devil like they'll make a YouTube vlog about doing it.

Lex was telling me about. Put the mic closer to you. Lex was telling me about, wasn't you telling me about somebody had tried to snatch Asian doll chain? Oh, yeah. A girl tried to snatch her chain. and to me, like, first of all, you look bummy. Like, that's weird behavior. And then, like, she tried to take a picture with her.

Like, she was acting like she was the fan. But after all of it happened, she literally gets on live and was like, yeah, it was me. I tried to snatch her chain. It's like, it's so weird. And, like, she was boasting about it. Like, she was happy. And she, and the thing is, like, she got beat up, like, her security. Like, you got beat up.

Like, why are you? And she was very happy. What's she from? I don't know. I thought she was from Texas. Yeah. I think it did happen in Texas. She ain't one of the ladies.

No, I'm saying. I think it happened in Texas. I don't know where the girl was from, but I think it's so maybe she would. I don't know, but it was just very, very. But look, it wasn't, you know, we always say it's a big difference between Dallas and Houston. So you think it was a Dallas? It was probably in Dallas, girl. What does this mean Dallas in Houston?

It's a lot of differences. First of all, them niggas be jigging and dancing. Houston nigsmen. You don't know what in the Dallas. Hell, y'all love Dallas. Oh, they ain't going to lie. They didn't have the whole turn. Everybody got the mullet.

What's the thing called? Yeah. The booty. The shad. They call it the booty. No, they don't call it the booty. No, they did. They used to call her.

They used to call it. They did call them. Don't nobody go to no barbershop and say I want a booty. Are you from texting? But I'm saying I know nobody don't ask for a booty. Yes, they were.

It was like, give me that bud. So you're asking a barber that without saying Paul. Give me that booty. Mom. Give me that booty. Oh my God. Why.

Yeah, you got the St. Paul. So they got the booty, they do the jigging. They wear leather shorts. Okay. Man. Dallas women fun, though. Like, they're cool. I mean, no, I will say, I don't really feel like with the women is a huge difference.

Do you think so? No, I don't think so. I think it's more so the guys. Yeah, the guys is a big, it's a big difference. Like, worlds apart. Easy to skin? I feel like all men are. And we talk different.

Like, Dallas people to me sound like St. Louis people. Yes, they do because they say her. Yeah. It's a shame that y'all be looking at men and saying that's a good duck. That's a come up. Sweetly. I mean, I feel like some men look at women like that. I feel like women are just, we just now catching up on the game.

Really? And when I say women, I mean like black women because the white women been on. And the Latino. And they've been years ahead of us with this. Explain this now. I just feel like when it comes to like marriage reasons. And, you know, like I went to an all white school grown. growing up. Like, I've seen a lot of my classmates, you know, marrying straight out of high school,

like older guys, you know, that were financially stable. And that's what their moms was like telling them to do and, you know, things like that. So I feel like, you know, as black women, we aren't raised like that. We're raised to be independent. Take care of yourself. You know, you don't need no man for nothing. And they're not raised like that. So us being like, okay, let's have a man that is financially stable that can provide and be, we're late on that. Now we gold diggers. Now we're gold. It's labeled as gold diggers now.

Because if a white girl goes get a man with money, it's like, ooh, she's smart. She did that. As soon as like a black woman does it, oh, she's a gold digger. Well, are you going to talk back? Hell yeah. All that come with it too, no.

I'm awake. I don't want that. I don't like no submissive woman, man. At all? No, I like a woman to like just be down for me. You know what I mean? Like, I'm a ride. Like, my wife rides for me.

Like me. She has to have an opinion. She got to have an opinion. I do not like no woman that don't have nothing to say. Yeah, just agreeing with everything you say just going on with it. But your wife was strong from the beginning. Yes. So imagine if somebody made millions and now you don't marry somebody,

now she's telling you what to do with your money. But she could be helping you. What if she's not? That's not what I can speak for because I'm not that type of woman. That's why you got to find true love. without finance. Impossible. I don't believe in that.

That's terrible advice. Terrible advice. The worst thing you're doing ever said. Yeah, that's shit you're doing you young. When you're young, like I've been blessed to, you know, me and my wife been together since high school, you know what I mean? That's different. But when you get older, the positions y'all in right now,

y'all ain't going to find no damn true love without no finances being attached. They're looking, all of y'all, all three of y'all licks. Because I can tell you right now, I ain't going to be happy. Why don't you don't speak that in today? I'm not going to be happy with just love. With just love. With just love. Okay, okay.

Shal and just asked her how many times she'd be like, he had money, but he was corny. Oh, I love. That's all she's talking about. Because money don't uncorn you. You still miss the corn. You still on the car. You still on the car.

What do you need with them? Okay, may I ask you this then. He don't have the money, but he got everything else. He's smart. He's funny. He looked good. I would never find out. a curve in it. Not a curve.

Not a curve. What? See, that don't make no sense. It got to be an equal balance. Because you might help him come up. That might be the dude you bring into your life and he'd be like, man, let me manage you. He'd be the best manager in the world and that y'all come up together. Please that me one situation where the husband to manage the wife and that worked out. Aretha Franklin movie. And that worked out people. I mean, there's a lot of situations where it worked out. Depend what you're saying. Arieie Franklin is a good example. even though, you know, what's his name?

Ted, I think his name was Ted. Ted ended up being abusive. Marlon Williams played it. He did. I just watched that this weekend, just crazy ironically. Same thing with Ike Turner. Ike Turner was abusive. Yeah.

That did not work out. That did not work out. Would you know Tina Turner? You got to have your definition of work out. Would you know Tina Turner? Oh, my gosh. I feel like that was in her. Points were made, right?

I mean, no, what I'm saying is maybe her storyline would have been different, but she's always going to be. be, you know, Tina Turner. That ain't in the car. We don't know, but here's the thing. I mean, I'm, yeah. Do y'all believe, do y'all believe in God?

Of course. You all believe. Everything happens for a reason. Absolutely. So clearly Ike came into her life for a reason. And I got her on the, the path to being the superstar that she ended up being. At least laid the foundation. Why he'd be hug?

Because he's a sick psychopath. But even still, he still laid the foundation for her to become the Tina Turner that we know now. And, you know, man, what would love got to do with it be without? that relationship. That's what I'm saying. Without the pain, man. I just feel like in most situations, it's just not ideal,

you know, but I get what you're saying because me now, like I'm not going to lie like younger me, it used to be like, oh, he got to have millions and that's it.

And I don't want to talk to him. Now it's like, I don't mind growing and building with somebody, but you have to have something. You know, you have to have something going on. I feel like that's really ideal for me right now. Like, I want to grow and build with somebody.

For all the finesse and you don't did And they'll pass It's not, though They don't want to speak on that But no, but you know what it is though? It's not like I was out here Looking for niggas too finesse. Right, you're approaching me.

I was not looking for me. I never was at the club like, ooh, let me go get him. Girl, there you go. There you go lie. Look Charlotte made over there. Let's go get him, girl. It wasn't like that. I don't believe you.

I don't believe you got a web. You're spider. Oh, my God. You like Charlotte's web. You put that web out and you're like, he's going to walk over here. He's going to walk over here. walk over. As soon as you walk up, he just run right into the web.

You got it. That's your own fault. You walked over here. I didn't tell you to walk over here. You came over here. Prisian, Cushing, come in your own reason. Wow. Wow. But I said it's the same thing. Like, I feel like all the situations or whatever. They do what they was getting into. That ain't true.

Yes, I mean, they might know now because of the podcast. I did not know you was going to cheat. That's another topic, now. That's your real friend right there. Drabby keeping you on point. So what did you get just a little bit of a little, you're reminding you of who you are. Who I was. I told you I'm an untouched queen now.

I have changed. I'm a different person. You didn't answer the question, though. Do you feel like that's your karma? No, I feel like my dating life is what it's supposed to be. I don't have a bad dating life. I don't really don't feel the karma because you know what? It's not like I was out here just hoeing niggas and stealing and doing this.

Like, no, it was like you're giving me gifts. You're taking care of me and doing what you're supposed to do. You know, because you wanted to. I ain't never beg nobody or try to trick nobody or had to lot to get money out of somebody. It was just like, if you want to do that for me, I'm let you. I know a lot of men like you left. You're a nigger. I am. I know men who act like like they like the girl and every girl they meet is their girlfriend and I love you. I'm weak. I do that. I got a future together. Man, you don't. That's you. You don't know. You're

real. You're a real. But I like, I will say this, no, but because if I'm with you and in the moment, I'm not saying, I don't know if I'm going to like you next month. I don't know. Yeah. But in this moment, I love. I love. But in this moment, I love. I like you and I'm going to make you feel good. And you got your shit paid for a month or two. I mean? How you break the news to somebody? Okay.

First of all, I feel like certain niggas don't be fucked up about that little money they they be spending. That's what I'm saying. And they don't be fucked up. I'm not going to lie like, during the pandemic, for example, like I had a job. I wasn't working and the guy I was dealing with at the time, you know, he had to pay all my bills, you know, and that's what it was. That's just what he's supposed to do.

That's just what he was supposed to do. But it's like, and we didn't work out, but it's not like, oh, I'm going to get karma for that. I don't really believe in karma. I'm not going to get karma for that. That was the person I was dating. Tell me what you think about, calm.

I agree with you to a certain extent about karma. Not believing in it. But go ahead. What do you think? Because I feel like fucked up things going to happen to people regardless. I've known some really, really amazing people

and it just seems like they just can't catch a break. I know some really shitty people who will be living amazing lives. And it seems that they really don't. I mean, I'm not saying I don't know what they're dealing with. It's a good people. Some real good people, their parents were some fuck

people. You really feel like that? I don't just talk to you. You're saying Gray and Lex, great grandkids is not going to have the amazing baby. Oh, hey, they're going to have no way. I ain't going to be here.

They're going to kick their kids. I don't give a fuck. You don't want your great grandkids to have no idea? Girl, you on your own. They're going to watch these. Good luck y'all. She and Loretta left me.

I'm on my own shit. Who is Moreta? My grandma. She gone. Shit. What you mean she's gone? She passed away? Yeah.

God. Damn, Lex, what? She probably still wanted to be here. She didn't want to die. But I'm saying, I'm on my own. I have to figure it out. Them little niggas going to have to figure it out. I think karma is about action.

Karma is your actions on a regular basis. Like, I think every day, every moment we're creating karma in that exact moment. Right. I don't believe you do something bad yesterday and then five years from now something bad. Right. But if your actions are continuously, you know, doing, yeah, I can agree with that. I agree with that. Yeah, I don't think like, oh, you do something bad.

something fucked up to this person, you're gonna get hit by a car or some shit. Now, why you had to go there too soon? It was the first thing that came. It was the first thing that got hit by a car. It was the first thing. But I don't think that happened because of anything you need.

I'm telling you. The truth unfolded. What kind of car was? It was a Camero. It was a Camero. It was the same car. The guy bought you and you left him? No.

You probably was kind of the change. Oh, no, it was you had to range. Yeah, but I had the challenger that. But either way it goes, I was crossed the street, I was in Dallas. This was what? A month and a half ago? Well, this was recent. It was recent.

It was recent. And I'm not going to lie. People, you can say what you want about surgery. The BBL saved my life. The car was more damage than I was. That's what fact. The BBL. The floor is yours.

I mean, it just was what it was. I was crossing the street. And I thought I could make it. I sped up a little bit. Booty was bouncing. Titi was going everywhere. And somebody said my name, and I think I stopped like an idiot and turned around

and the car just hit me. And I was like on the ground. That was a setup. We was all like, everybody was like, everybody was like, five heartbeats. And I was just sitting there like, did that really just happen? Get the ground? Yes, I was on the ground.

She was walking and then all of a sudden she went down and I was like. Oh, you saw it. I was there. Yeah, she was there. Chad was there. Y'all saw the car. Charlemagne, it was a lumens out of hit. Chad, don't get for fuck.

Chad, sleep. It's like, now a fuck. She's a lot. I mean. You said it was an Illuminati hit. Yeah. I'm weird. You tried to sacrifice Lex for your own.

Of course not. You're not. You did just drop. Yeah, I'm telling you. You know what? You did that for the lip gloss? Of course not. God.

She don't want who called Lex. Then she was like, Lex turn food. And she saw, she saw Les get up. She said, what the fuck? It's bitch tough. How fast you got going? He wasn't going extremely fast, but he was like, you know, it was a little speed on it. I really don't know.

But I don't know. I just got a, I mean, I'm not going to lie. Like, I was pretty bruised up, but I had a show the next day. The next day. Our live show was the next day. Tell me how the BBL saved your life. Because my booty, it was back there. And the car was like, whoa.

It's like she kind of bounced off the car. Yeah, well, it hit my hip on this side. But I had a little cushion back there. Like I said, I know that somebody. And the trunk was folded in. Yeah. Okay, Nav, you wasn't even there. He wasn't even there.

He didn't come in the next day. Oh, really? They stay in some shit. Really? I'm not going to lie. Every time we go to the city, something happening. Like, it's always just a. It is always something happening.

It is always. Like, so it's like a black cloud? Man, hey. No, no, black cloud. I don't want to put that on them, but. Don't talk about me. Maybe y'all got root on you or something. No, I don't know.

I want to say a black cloud. Calm. That's why. This is not going to do that to me. I'm nothing. be happening to me. I've always just been like a person in some shit, though. Like, things just happen to me.

But it only happens after three Tito. It is not worth it. After three Tito, when you see all that third Tito, Charlamagne, you better. You know, you might want to go home. You that person, Lex? Don't be that person. I mean, I'm really not, though. Like, I have, like, I, of course, we've all had our party days.

And trust me, I have calmed down a lot. I used to work in the strip club, so I feel like I had my moments of, you know, crazy. But I've calmed down. a lot. I've calmed down a lot. I'm a fun girl. I love it. We're going to have a good time. And you know what's crazy Shalamee? When I got up, the first

thing I was like, damn, so we ain't going to the club? Yeah, fake. I was like, damn, niggas, the vibe was gone? Oh, then. I'm 33. All right, it's about time to hang it up. Oh, I've been hung it up. I told you that. Oh, I am done. I mean, it's about time to hang up just going to the club for the sake of being in the club. Oh, no, no, that's what I'm saying. The only time we really go out is like if we have a show or something. Like, when I'm in

Atlanta, people don't ever see me. I'm really not a going out type of person. Like, Drea and I was like, she'd be like, what's doing, girl, I'm going to bed. Like, I don't, Auntie, I'm old. You get that now, face. I wouldn't. I wouldn't go nowhere neither. They're trying to kill me when I leave the house. Nassi. Now, see, now, don't say that. When you got

ran over? We was in Dallas. I don't know what, we was downtown. If I were about to go out, we was leaving our hotel. And you still don't know who was calling you. No, I know who said my name. It was not. But it wasn't like. Like. But it wasn't like.

Are you named after the election? All are why? No, actually my last name is Lexi. Oh. So people always just call me by my last name. Okay. And then I seen Drell go to cash at me and send somebody some money. How did you see anything when you wasn't there?

Navism is so messy. How much it called for that? How much it looked like that thing? How much are running you? Y'all are not going to slend my name. The only thing I respect, Dread didn't go rap about it. Let's go grab a lot. Man, you know, this story reminds me of y'all, two poor minds.

A woman dumps her boyfriend after winning the lottery. Mood. We didn't even hurt the whole story. I don't care. Laura is 40, Kirk is 39. They lived together under an agreement that Hoyle didn't pay any bills and only used her money to purchase lottery tickets. However, after winning the bet for life jackpot last March,

Stephen said his ex-girlfriend decided to claim the $3.6 million, actually $4.2 million for herself and live in the five-bedroom house they purchased together. Additionally, he planned to what Taylor's grow down? Additionally, he planned proposed to her and even took lengths

to ask her parents for permission at the time of the home purchase haul only put a 10% down payment. Now that's fucked up, man. I'm not going to lie. Hearing that perspective of it, like, you know, he was paying all the bills at first and it's like, you can't turn your back

on your day once. Like, that's a little, That's a little guard. I wouldn't do that. Yeah, I wouldn't do that. You give them a little something before y'all leave. But yeah, but even if I do want to leave, like, if I got $4.2 million and it's like, you've been doing all this for me, I'll chunk you a little, you know, I'll give you a little

$1,000. They were right. They were white? A little thousand dollars. At least give them like $200K. Yeah, I'm just playing. Yes, out of 4.2 men, give them the point two. All right.

It's strict in here. Were they white? You know, you know. They probably was white. Yeah. So, damn it, y'all really don't care about love at all. No, I'm just. You're loving your life.

No, I do. I'm saying I would stay with him, like, if I wanted to be with him. But if I just, like, was staying with him because he was paying the bills and I've been want to leave, then, yeah, I'll give you like $200,000 and I'm going to be on my wife. I need more details to the store. Let me see. Like, do they have kids? No kid.

No kids. I would have to get a prank. She was buying to do it. But technically it's supposed to be y'all lottery ticket. Yeah, like, we're together. We're mad. Does that even work for guys when guys impregnate women that got money? I ain't never heard of that story.

I feel like niggas be trapping women, too. Really? Definitely. Definitely. Definitely. Who, what man do we know trapped the woman? Hmm. And came up because they got a rich woman pregnant.

I could take some of them. Who? I'm not saying. You got to give an example. You got to give us an example. At least one. I mean, who are you thinking? Who?

You said, Bawa. Who he trucked? Who he trapped? Bawa had the check. Yeah. But he's. he wrote, because they were all, everyone that, like, got his girl after

future guy's girl, like, like, future got, he ain't got nothing to do with me. Well, I'll say this. I'll say this. I feel like, this is not a situation where he got her pregnant because she doesn't have kids, but I feel like we only know who Stedman is because of Oprah. Like, he came up because of Oprah. He did. No, man.

He was a lawyer, man. Bro, Trimman. Stetman was that niggins. I'm not saying that he wasn't, but he- Oh, Stetman was that nigger. He was. He invested in Oprah. Okay, but I'm saying, like, Like, Oprah is the main person. Like, we know who he is.

You know what I'm saying? Stetman, like, quiet as kept. He got some stock in TV1, B-E-T. Are he doing this? Antito. No, I'm not saying that Stetman was a bum or anything. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just talking about.

Now, see how he lied. See how he lied? No, I'm not saying that he's a bum or anything, but I'm saying it was beneficial for him to stick around. And be wrong. No, because he's not in the limelight. Like, you know, Stemman don't like being a little. in front of the camera. Right, so he just got to be at home,

make her some greens and peas. Stemann got his own wife. So, Deming, it was a renowned lawyer before he got with a... Right, but who wants to work? He ain't got to work no more. Stedman killing that shit. Let me ask you all the question. He ain't going to work.

He's chilling. Being that y'all are making money now, right, and y'all doing well, do you have to have a guy with money? Yes. If I was broken, I had to have a guy with money. Why wouldn't have to have one now? Because it's your time to give back. Give back to who?

But this is not charity. He broke. He's not the nigger. I need to be giving back to because that's not who I was dating. The only reason I'm accepting this from y'all. The only reason I'm accepting this from y'all is because y'all do have something going on. There's a lot of nothing-ass women out here. Not doing nothing, don't got nothing, but always asking, saying what they want.

They were. Right. We would. You got to bring something to the table. Not nothing. We did not ask you. He used more adjective than that. But I'm saying y'all was once in that pool.

We weren't meeting the criteria. Right, we weren't. But y'all always wanted those things. Fake. Yeah, but I think we understand things a lot differently now. Like I said, we've grown and we've changed. Like our opinions on things aren't so harsh and like, oh, you have to have this because, yes, you have to have money,

but there's also a long list of other things that are before the money that I require. I feel like... I didn't say before, but you know. Well, you know what I'm saying. But I feel like, well, for me, for me personally, I feel like the first thing was like, oh, does he have money? I don't care what does he have money.

Now it's like, okay, are you a good person? Can you hold a conversation? True. You know, can I bring you around my family? You know, are you family oriented? Or, you know, are you God-faring? Like, things like that. And then it's like, okay, and then let's get into,

do I trust you financially? Can, you know, we have conversations about business and money? You know, so it's kind of... How much criteria that is? And a man don't even want that money. I mean, that's cool. Cook, it look good. But that's why y'all be fucked up.

I want a smart woman. Yeah, you should. You should have a criteria. Yeah, I'm saying. That's what I'm saying, but that's why y'all being smart. That's, y'all ain't got no criteria. Like, that's bad. You got to know how to hold a conversation to be cool.

That's right. I'm weak. And I want a woman that's going to help me level up. Like, I got to rise to her level. Right. Even if it ain't about financials, you know what I'm saying? Just like just her is. a human.

She's making you a better person. Absolutely. That's really important. That's very important. Do y'all think y'all do that? Yeah. Make men better. Fuck, no.

What? No. Shalman, you just asking them questions to be nice. You can tell they don't make, they don't care. They don't care what happens to the nigger. And that what the shit got to stop. They don't give a fuck about the nigger what goes on what happens to him. But you want to make shit and you like to meet your family.

What you're going to do to meet his family? You don't give a damn. He got a point. That is definitely not true at all. No, because I feel like, you know, I'll use my last situation, for example, my last relationship because I can't stay situation. I don't know why you say situation. That's not disrespectful.

That's why y'all broke up because you wasn't claiming him. I did claim him. That was my man. The man ate your ass and you calling him a situation. I'm dead. You know what? But no, I feel like for us, things would be like, Like, I feel like we, I had to learn how to be a better friend and he did too, too.

Like, for us to get along and have good communication, we had to let go of that romance in some moment. So it's like I had to teach him how to be a good friend because if you don't care about me on a friend level with no respect, the love is not ever going to even come. So I feel like that's how we kind of helped each other, like, grow like as friends because we had no friendship for a while. You know what I'm saying? That's your fault.

I mean, it probably was. Because you didn't approach it from being friends to begin with. I definitely did it. As I'm saying, your gauge is like, you got money. What you mean? You wanted him how? Financially. No, I just wanted him.

That's it. I just want him. Yeah, like I wanted him. And it was just like, I mean, I met him when I was like 26. So it was all physical attraction. Yeah, at first it was like physical. I just liked how he moved. I liked everything about him.

It's like then we were just like dealing with each other. And then it was like, okay, wait, this is like growing into something a little more. And I think we had to kind of stop and learn how to be friends to each other because we actually started caring about each other. So I feel like for me, that's something that I took from that relationship that I know I'm going to use in the future, like help men be better friends to women. A lot of times men don't know how to be good friends to women. And if you can't be a good friend to a woman, you're definitely not going to be a good lover to her.

Did you know this guy now? Would you have won them? I would have told me. I think it's important to build the friendship first. Like any serious situation I was being. They were my friend before I had a relationship with them. I don't really hop into relationships. I do, but.

Because I think the flags be there. If you be somebody friend long enough, you don't see the red flags before you even get in a relationship with them. But I think that it's important to be just cooling, peaceful, and not. But that's kind of when it works because then if y'all separate, you don't lost your friend and your person. I'll find another friend. No, not always.

You know, you're not talking about fumbling bags a lot, but we be fumbling good people. Right. You know what I'm saying? It's more value in relationships than knowing a good person. I never did that, but I do feel like you can. How many friends y'all had in your life? Like real friends that you, I mean, you know, even to this day you can count on. I'm still friends with them.

Yeah, I've had this, like, one of my closest friends. I've been friends with her for like over 20 years. And you wouldn't trade that relationship for the world. Yeah, no, absolutely not. No amount of money. Nothing. I love her. A billion.

Hold on now. Okay, I'm sorry. My bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad. Damn, it's strict in this bitch. I have four friends that I'm really, really close to. And I've been friends with all of them for a really long time, like, since I was like 19, 15. And you wouldn't trade those relationships for the world. Friendship is very important.

One thing you said that's very true, men and women. Like, if you meet a person, you want to be cool with them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's important. That's important. That's important. Yeah, I couldn't see myself just hopping into a relationship after meeting somebody because we like, oh, we like each other so much. Like, you have to build that connection.

with somebody before you get with that. But I think that's a part of like dating that I have to go through too. Like I know I joke and I play a lot but I feel like now in my life I just have so much going on. I went through a lot this year. So I feel like for me I don't even need necessarily like a boyfriend right now.

Like I think if anything I would be looking for like that friendship in somebody like because I'm busy. So I feel like I couldn't even be a good partner right now to somebody to be honest. Like I'm busy. But I think a lot of times I didn't recognize that in myself like oh I can't be a good girlfriend to him, but oh, I'm going to do it anyway because this is what we're going to do, you know?

But I think for now, I can recognize that I'm not ready for a relationship and I can have a good friendship with somebody right now. Charlotte, man, you and your wife, y'all still real good friends? Like, y'all laugh, that's my homie. You know what I mean? We laugh, we joke, get hired together and laugh about you. That's my partner part. Yeah, and that's how I imagine marriage.

That's how it's supposed to be. Like, my friend. You can't stop dating you. You can't stop dating your significant. Right. You know what I'm saying? It's like you got to still do the things that y'all did when y'all was younger. All that shit.

I'm always grabbing her ass. Still eat ass. I'm glad you said that because he said I still eat at. Yeah. I still care. I still care about like making sure the sex is wearing it. I know, that's right. That's why that skin clear.

That's right. You'll meet her somewhere. Y'all, it's like, y'all don't know each of them. All the time. I did that early this week. We was in Kiowa Island this week. I had a whole reenactment going in my mind. Oh!

So y'all be role playing this show. Role playing. I told you, I said, I told you if you ever come around again. Hey, look. I told her, I told you, if you ever come around here again, I said, if I catch your little ass around here, you know what happened, didn't you? Oh, wait.

You see. You need to change, you have an alias. You got to keep it spicy. See the freak. Yes. See the free. I'm just saying, you got to keep, you never stop dating the woman that you love. You know, when that, when that spark goes out, it's old.

Right. Right. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. Let's probably be too deep in character. Hey, hey, calm down. We know he's fucking. Like your motherfucking ass die.

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Coors Brewing Company, Golden Colorado. Let's do some church announcements. This is this part of the show where whatever y'all got coming up, you know, y'all tell us what it is. Paul Mines, I know y'all on tour. Yes, we're on tour. We're headed to Arlington. Yes, Tampa, Orlando and Miami.

What are the dates? Y'all got the dates? Yeah, they're in October, yeah. October, 5th, and 6th. That's going to be the Miami, the Miami run. So I'm super excited about that. Then we actually go to Arlington on, let me see, let me pull up. Have the shows been selling out?

Yeah, so some of them have. Yeah. We be having a lot of people. I feel like, yeah, it's been like crowds of like 500 plus. We can do 500. Like, that's going to be our number, you know. So I feel like for our first tour, that's pretty good. Like, you know, it's been amazing. Um, Dreya just dropped her beauty line. Yes, I did. You know, let me see that lip gloss. Yes, it's beautiful. I wanted to ask you, how much does it cost to, like, put out your own lip gloss? It just depends. It depends on how many

that you're going to get. Because I got mine from overseas. Like, I used the, um, wholesale vendor. What's the website for it? It's amused beauty collection.com. And I have lip and lip liners. And, you know, eventually I'm going to come out with some more stuff. I really want to get into all things, beauty and all things, cosmetic.

So, foundations, concealers, you know, mascara. Eventually, I want to come out with skincare products. Oh, yeah. Haven't been doing well? I just launched it today.

Oh, today? Okay, okay. But it's doing pretty well. I keep getting them dings on top of life. Make sure you go to poorminds.com. Yes, poorminds.com. That's where you can find our merch. We have so much stuff.

Like I said, we're on tour. and if you miss this tour, we're going to be going on tour again next year. So, yeah, we have a lot of stuff. Let me ask y'all question. Do y'all feel pressure, right? Because the first time I heard y'all was on the 85 soft show,

and, you know, they live podcast shit is incredible. Yes. So y'all feel pressure? Like, when you go watch them and then, like, damn, now we're out on this stage? I think the first time we did. Yeah, I think the first time we saw that we were like, oh, my God, this is what we have to live up to.

But honestly, I think now, like, having so many conversations with them and seeing how they work, we kind of know, like, these people that come to pour my show, they're not here to see Carlos or CDC or see Chico, they're there for us. So we get to go on stage and just be us

and they enjoy being there. So I think that's something that we learn with the tour. So now I don't feel a lot of pressure. It was a little at first, though. Yeah, it was at first. Because we didn't know what to do and we felt like, you know, we're not comedians. You know, like we just like to have to be ourselves.

Yeah, we just get to be ourselves. So that's what we do now. Before I ask now, what he got coming up, speak to how beneficial it is to have men around. y'all that's just supporting y'all and not trying to fuck y'all. You know what I mean? That's really important. Yeah. It's really important for

sure. But I also... People think that it's impossible to have the other relationships in this industry and it's not... Right. And also I think a lot of times I say this all the time, especially like how we look or whatever, people think that that's how we got here. Right. And it's going to be like stories coming out later like, oh, she

fuck this person. It's not... And that's not, like, we really got here because of our talent, and we have learned so much. And I feel like I know sometimes we can be a little emotional with things, but we have learned how to be business women and be logical and go into situations with like a business mind. You know, we learned how to maneuver.

Because we learned it's a lot of weirdos in this industry. It's a lot of weird people, you know. So I kind of feel like we kind of have like some big brothers like in like a protection a little bit. Yeah, who have been doing this for a long time. So, you know, I think a lot of things have been really beneficial for us because like certain stuff like, you know, knowing to put money to the side for your taxes and different things like that.

Lex and I wouldn't have known that if we were just doing everything on our own. Right. So it's been really, really helpful. No, y'all doing your thing. I was talking to somebody this week, and they said they was going to holl at y'all about some TV stuff. Yeah.

You might already hollered at Chad. I don't know. But they definitely said they're going to holl at y'all about it. Yeah, we definitely have a lot of stuff in the works that we're working on ourselves to get into the TV world. So we're excited. What you got, Nav. I got some dates coming up in September.

Greensboro, Charlotte, Greenville, South Carolina and Jacksonville, Florida. Right now the show sold in, we're just trying to... Right now, right now, shit ain't moving right now. I'm waiting. So if you're watching this,

if you're anyone in the cities... He'll come pick you up. I'll come pick you up. And we would drop you off You ain't got to worry about nothing happening until you you're going to come to have a good time

and we're going to get shirts away whatever you got to do to get him there but no Chad man because I've been opening up for 85 South and opening up for mine so Chad was like

man it's time you to start doing your show so I was like yeah soon I'll be ready like a week later he had sent me so many dates I'm like I said in a minute like not

oh he don't know you just started doing stand-up now No, no, no, no, I'm saying going on two on my own. Oh, got you, got you, got you. So he was saying, like, doing like that. But, like, so it's like, now we're getting the rolling. So I'm trying to see how it is. Because it's different because, like, you know, where 85 South would be a full crowd.

Yeah. With poor minds, it's a full crowd. Man, I'm seeing my little tick is trinkling every day. Shut. Man, that's interesting. You said that because, you know, the baby, everybody was on the baby ass because they said that. New Orleans.

Yeah, but I think that's whack because. because we've been watching him sell out shows all around the world. You don't never see those headlines. Right. But the one time he don't have a sell out of crowd, it's hard. I mean, it's hard to sell tickets, man. It's hard to get people to spend their money to come see you. Especially doing the economic...

Yeah, like, it's hard. So, I mean... He can't watch because that's free. I think it's just, of course, because of everything that's been going on with him. A lot of people are, unfortunately, like kind of praying for his downfall, so they like to see it. So, I mean, of course... He just got to drop another song, man. He has been, but they be...

They acting like the music ain't sticking. I mean, did he let go of that flute yet? What flute? You know the flute that plays on all his songs? That'd be lizzle with the flute. What he did you do? No, he has the beat. No, his beats always have like a flute, that flute sound.

You know what I'm saying? So maybe if he let go of the flute, we'll get back on that. Damn, baby. Let go with the flute. My announcement, man, October 8th in honor in honor, World Mental Health Day, I'm doing my second annual Mental Wealth Expo at the Marriott Marquis Times Square, New York City. 11 a.m. to 4 p.m.

For more information, go to www. mental wealth expo.com. We haven't announced everybody that's going to be there, but we've announced a few people. We got Nadra Tawab Glover to offer a set boundaries, find peace. Of course, Dr. Alfie, Breeland Noble. Dr. Spirit is going to be there.

We got Walo. My man, Walo, and Shaka Singh Kor. They have a panel that they're going to be doing about the effective incarceration on somebody's mental health. And our keynote speakers are, the great Pastor Toray Roberts and the great Pastor Sarah Jake Roberts. It's a free event.

Just go to Mental Wealthexpo.com, register, and we'll see you on October 8th, 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. to Marriott Marquis and Time Square. I want to ask y'all one more thing, man, about Nick Cannon. Nick Cannon just announced that he's got his 10th child on the way. Vivica Fox. Do you have Vivica's comments, Taylor? You've seen that New Jersey preschool teacher?

Nav? No, what happened? With the body? Oh, I saw that. Oh, talking about the female teacher. Oh, yes, Lord. Yes, sir. All right.

They're talking about she'd be a distraction to the little boys. I don't think so. Man, I would be the best parent at that school, man. I'll be in the PTA. I mean, little kids don't know. Yeah, and what did she?

The mom's been. In kindergarten, I knew. What do they want her to wear? I knew in kindergarten. We all knew in kindergarten. And we all had kindergarten, kindergarten, first girl, we all had pretty teachers.

Yeah, you're a little. You know what teacher ugly and what teacher. That's right. That's right. And she's in the right place because she'd thick like a kindergarten pencil. Okay. The one you got to. I really think it was not a whole thing.

They was being haters. They was hating on the girl. They were. Vivica. Tell me what y'all think about these times. All right. Ain't none of y'all on while or not any. No.

Okay. So y'all can speak free. We ain't about to lose some job. He can't find me. They're coming for you soon now for a while and up. Would you do it? No, I think it's over with for me.

I don't got old and fat. Man, shut up, man. Jack Thriller on there. I am weak. Who is? That's different. You got to have at least one handicap like on the show.

Is that the video? That's not the video teller? Like, you know at the grocery store they have one. He helped him meet their quotas. Yeah, he got to meet. I just, I don't like it. I mean, you know, y'all can be like, he got money to set in a third,

but the foundation of black families, especially a strong father figure, is needed. This isn't a good representation of it, in my opinion. He has an empire, so do you have time for all these kids? I barely, today, I just to be there to take pictures, and it's cute. And oh, my God, I'm at the birthday party. You know, children deserve a father figure,

especially young boys. They need positive father figures, especially African-American, because they black, just providing a check. I've seen so many people that in the past have dated like athletes and gotten child support.

What if he gets hurt? Things happen. Yeah, I wish we'd get out of leave. Well, he has the money because it's way more than money. What y'all think about that? I mean, I think it's hard. Like, it's really hard

to be in multiple places all the time when you have that many children and you have that many households. Right. So I feel like, yeah, I mean, I feel like he's going to probably do his best to be a good father to the capacity that he can, but I mean, you can't be there for everything all the time.

It'd be different if everybody was in one house, you know, you could wake up and see all your kids before you go to work. Like, that's very different. But it's like, that's a lot of different houses that, you know, people don't live in the same state. So I just feel like, I don't judge people, you know, do what you want to do, but it's very kind of like strange, I'll say.

Even that's how I do. I got four, and they're all in the same house. Right. I got a 14-year-old, but then the youngest is 11 months. So I might be up for a couple hours with the youngest ones, and the 14-year-old ain't left the room yet, and I forgot she was in there. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

It's easier to maneuver because y'all are all in the same house. You know what I'm saying? So even if you're sitting there with the baby and you and the 14-year-old are watching a movie together, you're still spending time with the both of them. So that's a lot different from having, you know, all these kids being spread out. So I feel like as far as him having a lot of kids, you know, that's what he wants to do. I'm not judging that. But I guess them just being in different states and different locations is a lot.

What you think, now? I feel like it, you could never please a baby mama. So why would you want seven or eight of them? I'm saying, if you're giving them the time, they're going to say you ain't got no money. if you're giving them the money like Nick Cannon got the money Now you're talking about he ain't got time to spend With all over

How are he going to get the money? Yeah I think the most important thing is the time though Yeah the time is very important And I'm glad y'all said that And I hope my baby mama watching time is important You rather spend time than money for thousands of points I try to do that You said fuck damn what a money

Taylor, let's go to some asking idiots I want to do asking idiots, but I want to talk. After you do asking idiots, I'm going to bring Mousin Nile and go and talk to them about something. Just go to asking idiots so we can... You didn't want to talk to the mental health thing? I don't want to talk about that. Let's do some asking idiots with... Well, Taylor, what you got to say about it?

I already said what I had to say Donkey today. I'm over that. It's just I just get tired of people when somebody says they're dealing with mental health issues. I hate when somebody comes out and be like, I have some bullshit. You just scared or you just, how you know what's going on in that person? Right, that's true. You know what I mean?

And then they shoot up with school or something or kill their self. Then you're like, oh, for real, for people not to speak out on it. Like that's strong and take courage. That's a thing. Anyway, but yeah. It used to be a time when it was stigmatized. Especially black people. That's right.

You know, you never wanted to accept, oh, I'm having mental health issues. That's right. That's right. Do we have to ask an idiot's Taylor? Yeah, because for such a long time, it was stigmatized, right? And so people were afraid to talk about it. Now that more people are open about it, people are not afraid to talk about it. And not to put no gender on, especially as a black man.

Like, you're going through something, you're really convenient and talk about it. Like, man. And I feel like a lot of older black, you know, people are still like that as well. One of my uncles one day, and he was like, I'll never go to therapy. But why not? Think about how many older black men got high blood pressure. Mm-hmm. We don't want to go to the doctor.

Yep. What? Oh, I get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He said, what? Sometimes it take a minute, but I was kind of like. I get it. I just throw it out there.

I let Dreel finish the thesis. They didn't pull up, Taylor? You know what? Fuck it. What? What? Taylor took their week off, too. I just want to do a couple of hours,

do we have any new ones? Well, Nav, Lex Dreia, I enjoyed the conversation, man. Man, I appreciate you. This was fun. Tell them go to Poor Minds.com again for the toy dates. Yes, go to Poor Minds.com. You can get all the information

of everything you need, poor minds there. episodes drop every single Friday. Bonus content on Patreon. You can follow us on Instagram at P-O-U-R-M-N-D-S. And yeah. Nav, what about you? You got a website?

Yeah, I got a website. Don't do that. Don't do that. I don't know if people go to it. I don't know if people go to it, but I got a website. And them tickets are on now. Them tickets are on there.

Those tickets are on there. Nabgreen.com. Man, the tickets are there. The tickets are there. Go buy them so they don't be that. Yeah, go buy them. And don't worry. You can sit anywhere.

Like, you can bring whoever you need to bring. Y'all good. All right, let's pay some bills. And I want to come back and talk to Mouse and Nile. I'm especially glad Mouse is here because he's a Jay-Z kind of sore. So I want to talk to Mouse about Jay-Z's new verse and some ridiculous hot takes Mouse had about it. I saw one that was very ridiculous.

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off your first purchase of a website or domain. That's Squarespace.com slash Idiot with Offer Code Idiot for 10% off your first purchase. Let's get back to the show. All right, we're back. Slude de Nav and the ladies of Paul Mines, Lex and Dreda for pulling up. I got Nile and Mouse in here.

I needed to talk to Nile and Mouse, the host of the What podcast, because Jay-Z put out a verse this week on Callag's album, God did. And I saw Critics of Culture asked what is Jay-Z's greatest verse of all time. And House said, guest verse. And Mouse said the verse from what it feels like. That's his best feature of verse of all-time. You got to stop, Mouse. Yeah, all right.

You're not listening to what he said. How do you come to that conclusion? Because who know more Jay-Z versus than me other than Jay-Z? And so that verse is better than dope boys go crazy. Yes. It's better than Diamonds of Sierra Leone remix. Yes. It's better than you don't know remix verse.

Yo, pull up, yo, put the, yo, he bugged out. It was cool. He bugged out. What it feels like was a cool verse. He didn't bug out. He's the thing, Jay-Z has these moments where he, like, just floats on records. And they're always in moments where he's reminding you of who he is. He said Scorpion Bricks.

Way before, Aubrey's double disc, 40 on my lap, sound like 40 did the mix. Put the base in coast like a Missless Star Chef, Chef kiss to my wrist. I go dummy with my left. Fire. I arrest on my dick trying to order it on my checks too late. But you know they hate when you become more than they expect. Fire, but that ain't that.

You let them crack a storm your capital, yet you're talking tough to me. I lost all my little respect. They put your feet all in their dead. He said, I'm selling weed in the open, bringing folks home front of feds. I know the payback going to be mean. I'm saving all my little bread. Pray for me, y'all. One day, I'm going to have to pay for these thoughts.

He said, he said they burn the bridge on the other side. You know, you can't swim across. You know, niggas can't swim. They fried Mike after he die. You'll never land. All jokes aside. I arrived on the day, Fred Hampton, got murdered. Assassinated, just to clarify further.

what y'all gave birth to is the chairman mix with Jeff Ford. First of all, let's stop right there. What y'all gave birth to is the chairman mix with Jeff Fort. We're talking about Fred Hampton and the leader of the El Rookin's Black Peacstone's Jeff Fort. Niggins was on two completely opposite sides of the movement. He said, but what y'all gave birth to when you killed him and birthed me on the same day, December 4th, is the chairman mixed with Jeff Ford. Listen, phenomenal verse.

With his greatest guest feature of all times. That's his greatest guest feature. He's nuts. He was 50-some of it. I did this. Do you remember what Dope Boys go crazy sounded like? Yes. Rapid.

Oh, wait, so. More than a hustle. I'm the definition of it. Master Chef, Lord of the Kitchen cover. Lord of the Kitchen cover. It's over. More than the relief pitch on the closer.

The Mariana or the Marriott. If money talks the whole world, about to hear me out. Like, here's the thing. Once again, Jay Z gets on these records. That was him floating. When you was talking about floating, he floated on that. He was flowing on what?

On what, Do Boy, go crazy? On Doe Boy, crazy. He was floating. Yes, yes. He gets on this shit. He's talking crazy. He's talking crazy. He said, Scorpion bricks way before Aubrey's double.

Listen, I'm not saying the verse ain't dope. 40 did the mix. When you say the greatest, and I'm glad that critics and culture narrowed it down to his best guest verses. Because saying Hoves' greatest verses is too broad. It's still easy. It's too broad. It's not really that easy.

Dead Presidents'1, verse 2. That's not a guest feature, though. No, I said if it was his greatest feature. If it was greatest verse of all time. No, man. It's too many. How do you say dead president? Dead presidents, volume one, verse two.

No. Sick of these. She said, I'm so sick of niggas. I want money like Cosby, who wouldn't? That's the kind of talk that make me think you, niggas ain't got no pudding. Niggers got those kind of dreams in jail. You in the streets, homie, get your mail. Niggers are posting the S-L but can't post bail.

Niggers are grabbed your toast, but scared to throw the roast. Well, I'm here to tell, niggers, it ain't all swelled as heaven. Then it's hell. When they're you cruising in your seven, next day you're sweating, forgetting your lies. Alibis ain't matching up. Bullshit, catching up. Here with the recode.

They repo your vehicle. Everything was all good just a week ago. Red Star bitching ain't you? Raystarching ain't you? I forgive you a weak-ass. Hustlers just ain't true. Aside from the fast cars, honey's who shake their ass and balls,

you know you wouldn't be involved with the underworld killers. Carriers, the Mac Millers, East Coast body is West Coast Capp, Pillar, stop playing. Phenomenal. Nothing's better than that. Phenomenal verse, but you, when you say that's his greatest verse of all time,

but you just say fuck never change. Now, I'm not saying fuck it, but that comes, it's later down the list. I was just blown away that you said what it feels like versus his greatest Because niggas is missing it because one thing You don't think niggas is missing God did The stuff he's saying how crazy he's talking on God did

Niggas missed it Niggas missed it for a minute You know what I said about God did? I'm a Marvel guy Right same So it's like somebody who's never seen any Marvel movies And they watch in game If you watch in game and you've never seen any other Marvel movies

You're going to be saying What's that? Right right right And why did that happen? Right. If you don't know the Jay-Z origin, you probably don't appreciate God the verse in that way. Right.

Now, I'm not saying this is the greatest verse of all time. It's not. It's up there. It's up there. But see, that's the thing about, see, listen, saying Jay-Z's greatest guest verse of all time is like, it's like, you know, trying to pick which Super Bowl for Tom Brady is the best.

I think the ones done in the later years are the better ones. But that's the thing. We're so impressed that this guy is still 50, rapping like this. We gotta remember he's one to two years younger than rock him and Big Daddy King. And that niggas older than hip hop. And he's outwrap. That's right. He's outwrapping. We're not even talking about these little niggins now. I'm talking about his peers. Niggas old. He's really that nigger. For him to step out there and do the shit he's doing

at 50 plus years old. We've never, we've never seen it in hip and that's why I think some people take it for granted. If Jordan wanted chip with the wizard, that would be his greatest chip. No. But do you know when he went to the Wizards, there were people who were picking the Wizards to go to the finals just because it was Michael Jordan. And that's my point, right?

Like LeBron James, somebody like LeBron James has been great for so long. Every time he's on a team, you expect that team to go to the championship. Yes. Last year, LeBron averaged 30 points a game at like 38 years old, 37, 38 years old. Like to us, to anybody with common sense, that's an unbelievable feat. Right. But for most people, they're like, oh, that's just Braun. But no, to be doing that at 38, 39.

Same thing with Tom Brady. Tom Brady won his seventh Super Bowl ring at 40 plus. So that's incredible. That's his best one. But people say, it's Tom Brady. So you expect that. So the same thing with Hove. Like when people say, oh, it's his greatest verse of all time.

I'm like, that's how Hove been rapping for three decades. Yeah, but we didn't see every other person his age fall off. A different different time frame, though. Totally different time frame. When Raq Kemp was rapping, like, Raq Kemp is the person that kind of, like, created that whole new lyrical style of rapping. You know what I mean? Like, they didn't get a chance to even adjust to this new era.

They didn't play in this new era. The way Holbein' rapin since 96, that still holds up right now in 2022. You came out in the 80s and you, it's a ton. It's been a long time. I shouldn't have left me. The only part of that rap like that today isn't making a stalion. Man, shut up. Now, look, what did you think of holds verse?

The new one on Cal? The new one, yes. I liked it. Like you said, a lot of things went over my head. So I had to read the lyrics kind of kind of like, Kendrick's project. But after you broke it down and explained it to me, I'm like, ah, okay, I get it. It's a lot there, man.

And once again, I'm not saying this is his greatest verse of all time. I'm just saying that this is- Four minutes. Yes. That's unprecedented. Who else got a four-minute feature ever? No, there's people with four-minute features. Ooh. And rap?

Capadonna, winner wars. All right, see what I'm talking about. Winter wars is phenomenal. I'm just telling you. It's not the first time. You see what I be talking about. What do you mean? You see what I be saying with these old niggas in this woman.

That's right. They find a way to bring these woundings in here. It's called history. No. Yeah, it's called history. They closed the book on that one. No, no, no, no, no. You made a statement.

That's a four-minute verse can hold you up against holds four-minute verse? Winter Wars is a phenomenal verse. That's not what I actually. I said there's a hold-up against God did. Oh, no, no, for the same reasons that I'm saying. No, no, no, for the same reasons that I just said about Raq Kim. It's a different flow, different era. It's dope, though.

Winter Wars verse is phenomenal. Phennawomenal. I'm going to listen to it again. I'll listen to it again. I haven't listened to it since. It's phenomenal. Like, Cap killed that shit. Like, he killed that, bro.

Four minutes. It's good. It's really good. Jay gave us a small, Jake gave us a, this was the equivalent to when you watched a thriller for the first time

and seen it was cinematic. The first time you've seen ghost, it was cinematic. The first time you've seen, even like when Biggie and, I didn't feel that way now. Four minutes? No.

You're like, whoa, what am I in a movie? What's happening? I'm impressed by a whole length. All right. This guy's crazy. You won't catch me like that. I don't play them for an idiot games no more.

I'm just saying. Three and idiot games is done with that, buddy. I'm just saying. I like the fact that it was four minutes long, but it's like, yeah, that's not why I like the verse. I like the verse because he didn't waste a ball. That's what I'm saying. In four minutes, no filler.

Yeah, he didn't waste the ball. Cabadonna has filler and winter award. No, he don't. No, he don't. No, he don't. No, he don't. He absolutely does not. Every ball on Winter Awards is phenomenal.

But you just asked it. That was the first verse that came to Michael. When I heard the J verse, that's what it took me back to. It took me back when guys used to get on the end of a track and just body it, you know, in that way. And that's what he did. I mean, shit, Drake's Lemon Pepper verse was about three, four minutes long. We're going to compare that to this? I think if I'm not going to say, wasn't Jay Cole a verse on a...

I don't think Cole. The shit with Benny the butcher, wasn't that shit like three, four minutes long? No. The song wasn't even... The song was barely four minutes long. I don't know. That verse is long. saying, no way.

His verse is long. It's a good verse. I'm not saying it's not. I'm just saying for Hove at 50 plus, he is literally, he's at the halfway mark. Of what? Life.

And he's still rapping like that. I think, I think rappers are supposed to get better with age. I think the reason that Hove is able to get better with age, and a lot of these new guys, I mean, a lot of these OGs like Nause and whoever, it's because they're actually rapping about things

that are going on in their life. They're not trying to be young. There was a time when motherfuckers was dying, they beard, black, they still doing that. But they was still trying to be young. The record industry was saying to them, oh, you can't talk about being married. You can't talk about, you know, loving your kids. Like, you still got to stay in this formula of guns and pussy and drugs and, you know, being the woman that, being the man that all the women want. Hove works in that way, the same way that push your works in that way.

Maybe push it doesn't do it to an extent. Hove and push your work because it's the same way that we'll listen to the OGs that we know is. is really like that. We'll sit there and listen to them all day talk about what they did. Like, we'll be fooled. Like, if you just sat with us all day, you sat with all of us in this room,

you just talked to us about radio and this shit. Like, we'd just be sitting here like, oh, warm, one, wow, right. But you would only listen because, uh, you listen to Hope because he's still successful. Exactly. You listen to push it because he still. And it's not him saying,

I'm on the block doing it today. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, these were the, but. It's comparison. Just like when he says, you know, we push in Fentty like fentanyl or I turned the coke into champagne. You know, I cleaned up,

La Madrana with the same soap. Like that, that ball right there is phenomenal. He said, these are hymns because I'm him. I said, come on, stop playing. You know who La Madrana is, right? Yeah. No, okay, I'm just saying, I'm asking. Me?

I'm just asking. But that's why I'm saying. This is why this verse is so dope. Even when he said, like, scroll down to Taylor and he's like, he was down 10 for this. And he went on got the interest. We just got the 10 back and went back with the interests is. Like, Jesus Christ. Like, you got to know the origin story of home.

Like, this was perfect. Yeah, like the way you put it as a Marvel, that's perfect. Because if I didn't know, if I wasn't there of reasonable doubt, if I wasn't there volume one, volume two, rock, a lot familiar. If I wasn't there, I'd be saying like, who's it? Who's him? Yes. Is he talking about him and him?

We never heard, we've never heard him talk to OG, like, talk about OG. Never. Ever. Never. You've never heard him talk about OG like that. OG sold it OG called Kingpin. If those are drug lords, then who are weed in? I bet you there's people like that think he's talking about himself when he says,

OG. No, I hope they do. I hope they do. I'm just saying this is a, I don't know where this ranks in all time whole versions. It got to be, pause,

pure length alone. It has to be top 10. I said pause, so I don't know what you did. It's your job for. Some things you can't pause about it. I gave context. I'm not playing these,

I told you, I'm not playing these great idiots games no more. That could be a great clip. Of pure length alone. Oh, my dad. Comrade. It's fun.

It's fun. Comrade. I don't know. I don't know if we can say top 10 yet, bro. I feel like. It's too early. I did see, I did see. Four minutes.

Four minutes. So length and time. Oh, that's crazy. It's crazy. Four minutes enough time. Naila, if somebody's the right length is four minutes enough? That's a fact. You can flip you half midway.

You can flip you over. I'm going to pull up this Jayzee greatest versus list, right? Hold on. Because I saw this earlier. Jay Z best, and I want to ask you some of these because they had this top 10. I think it's a little too early for top 10, man. If it's not in top 10, it's definitely knocking at the door.

Like you have to, it's up. It's first ballot. Number one, they got Never Let Me Down. Yeah, that's a fact. Never Let Me Down is his greatest verse of all time. Number two, they have Go Crazy remix. I'm not mad at that. Number three is Young J's.

Not in the way out album. You felt like you had to explain to me with young Jews. I'm just saying, I'm just for everybody. Number four is drug dealers anonymous. That's a, now they're bugging. I don't think so. That's what I'm saying.

Top 10. That's not top four. That's not the number four verse of whole. Yeah, they're bugging. Number five, diamonds from Sierra Leone. That's, that's the top five. 16 at all. Yeah, 16 at all's crazy.

Uh, what's free. That's another one where he floated. I got what it feels like over was free. I got, I got what it feels like over was free. And they got God did number eight. Number nine is blackout. And then, oh, my God. got the Haar remix that number 10.

Jay wouldn't even agree with that. And somebody from the South wrote that list. I know somebody from Monk's Corner. I like the Rhymix, but he, I don't, I don't think it's top 10. But I just love when, I love when Jay Z floats like this. This is what rap is about. This is like, when you talk about his age, he does these verses every now and then that are like mile markers.

Yeah, absolutely. For who he is. Just to remind y'all, hey, man. Stop playing. And this was the perfect one. Hove did. You know what I mean? So, yeah.

Like, this is, like, kind of what I said with, it's funny that obviously they married. Like, when Beyonce dropped, the world stopped. No, ain't nobody was doing that. When Hove drops a verse, shit stops, bro. Like, niggas stop, no matter what it, it stopped, yo. Because he don't talk too much.

So he only talks through the music. That's right. He don't reveal too much about his private life, so when he does it in the music, it makes it an event. Like, stop playing. Like, at this point, whatever the rank you got this, I'm not, I'm not even, I'm unfollowing the,

is actively I'm unfollow nigs whenever I say, oh, y'all, y'all overrating this whole verse, unfollow. I almost started to unfollow criticism coach because he said that I love the dough. His verse on I love the dough was better than God did. I almost thought it to unfollow you. I feel like he's from Connecticut.

I'm not even joking when I say this. He's from Virginia and y'all look alike. We don't look anything like. You've seen Chris before Taylor? We don't look anything like. Maybe, I don't know. We could. I can't control it.

He's just shorter than you. Yeah, I promise you. Listen, you'd be like, damn. No, I would never. I see people that look like me. I still don't see it. I look at my kids. They be like, hello, I know you, though.

But no, what do you think of the song overall? I think we could do without the first 20 seconds of it. Where Cal is, like, talking. I agree. I don't need. That's on most Calid records. It also could do without Rick Ross. I don't think we need Ross, and I love Ross.

I don't think we need a Ross. I think we need a Ross. I'm going to tell you what I would have done if that was me, Anna, on that record. I wouldn't have put Ross on it. And once Holt gave me his verse, I would have went to Wayne and I'd say, Wayne, you need to listen to this verse. And I would have said, Wayne, you know how you,

you had those bars where you says you're the apex and people replicate you with the tattoos and the dress? I need to hear more about what Wayne did. Because Wayne could really flex if he wanted to. Motherfuckers can front on Lil Wayne all they want, but little Wayne been around since 1996. But I don't know if Wayne could do. Yes, he could.

I think Wayne did, and everybody, I'm very indifferent by him. So I could always be honest about him. When he gets crazy, he gets crazy. The thing about this, Four minutes. Wayne can't do this. Yes, he can. Wayne has done it. No, no, no.

If we go back and listen to those mixtapes, Wayne does it. Records where he's rapping, it's a lot of filler. Maybe. It's a lot of filler. Some bars is in there and it went to catch it like mayonnaise. The filler, filla, fill a, filla, fill a, filla, fill a, filla, fillers. I feel a, fillers be clever, though.

The fillers might not have, like, context, but it'd be flash shit. And I agree. I think a focused Wayne after hearing that J-Vers, and you're telling Wayne, Wayne, I just need you to flex about your career. Because motherfuckers can say what they want about Lil Wayne. He's been around since 1996, and he fulfilled prophecy when Birdman said, about a year 2000, Lil Wayne going to tear this game up. The man's reinvented himself so many different times.

Went platinum in a week, a couple of times with the car. And he was gone on. He bought you. The biggest rappers of this generation, he introduced you to. And he was one of the first rappers, like, embracing gay community. What do you mean? Because remember he said, what's that shit he said? He said, uh, sucking nigga dick from the truck fit.

There was no girls line. Nah, Biggie did that first. Nah, there was no girls line. Nile, Nailet. Nope. That was. No, she is wrong because Richard Pryor. All he did was recite a Richard Pryor line.

Nyla. Biggie said, I'll fuck Rupal before I fucked him ugly ass escape girls. Then he said. I don't know if he knew Rupol was. Man, shut up, man. Jamaica, Nick don't be knowing. And it was a transgender in the Big Papa video. How do we know that?

Because if you watch the video, the woman walks up to the urinary stall and whips out in peace. Do we know that for sure? Watch the video. It's a video. It's a video cinema. We saw the video. Little Wayne literally said, stuck a nigga, little way, said suck a nigga dick for some truck fit. There was no women's clothing line. Truck fit was only for niggers.

Who is he inviting to suck his penis? Women that like to dress like men, maybe. So the... I just know that he's not the first person in the property. I don't like the dress like men, but I do... Do you not? I do... You don't like the dress like men?

You know what I'm saying? That's what you're going to say right now? I don't. All right, this is a men's hoodie, but I cut it. I just, see? I just, I just wish that Wayne would have flexed a little bit more on some Wayne I think he flexed as much as he could at this point of his career. He's the third most influential rapper of all time.

Who's the first two? Drake and Hope. Kanye and Jay. No, no. He's four. Kanye, well, I'm not going to say the number or the number, but it's four. Kanye J. Park, Wayne.

You got to. Four most influential rappers of all time. You got to put Chief in there now, too. Not the four. No. No. You know why I don't put Chief Keith in that? Because Chief Keith didn't influence, like,

the world. He influenced a sound of a region. Yeah, he didn't influence the world. Those four people I named literally influenced people all over the world. Kanye J. Wayne. Who did I say? Kanye J. Wayne. and pop. I think what Keith did is

still growing. You think so? Yeah. Look at New York right now. But is that, is that because of... That's not because of Chief Keith. That's not because of Chief. Was Keith even doing drill? Was that called drill back in the day? Yeah, that was drill. Yeah, that was drill. And then that influenced Bobby and Rowdy, which that's what influenced.

Now we're here. It's still here. And I'm going to tell you, the other person that's going to be there in the future. Stop playing with him. Stop playing with him. Stop playing with Navadius. Stop playing with Navadius. I want people to stop playing with him. Future is on the Mount Rushmore of this generation, easily. Maybe of multiple generations.

I've told Naila this before, I'll say it again. Knowledge, she gets... I told you, I like Future now. Leave me alone. Future is the second biggest rapper of the last decade. Who's the first? Drake. Okay, just making sure.

Yeah, is Drake and that's no disrespect because I love Kendrick. Kendrick is the leader of the new school to me. Cole's dope, but that future, that Hendricks guy. Look at the numbers. Look at the stats. Look at his influence. That nigga got it, bro. And that nigga be speaking to your soul.

He says some shit, he'd be like, for real. That's it. That's all I wanted to talk to y'all about. I just wanted to know why you thought that what it feels like verse was his greatest verse of all time. That's the greatest feature verse. Greatest feature verse of all time. I don't, you think that now that you think that verse is? What it feels like?

Yeah. Nah. It's a dope, it's a cool verse. It's a dope verse. I like the pound cake verse better than that one. Pound cake. Pound cake's tough, but niggas not, nigga said, he said y'all think we're going to stop

because y'all kill because we're going to turn up even, no, he said y'all think we're going to stop because y'all spill blood. We're going to turn up even more since y'all kill because. Like, he blacked the whole verse. Love it, but it's not his greatest verse of all time. I don't think it's better than Dope Boys Go Crazy Remix. I don't think it's better than Diamond's from Sierra Leone. Diamond Sierra Leone is crazy.

I don't think it's better from Never Let You Down. Go Crazy was one of the ones you said where he more floated than anything. The balls is crazy though. He got some balls because he's whole. But I think what it feels like when when niggas hear this and after they react, they sit down with that verse, they're going to come back talking a little different. Let's hear it. They're going to come back talking a little different because that verse is not a regular verse.

Charlotte may really sit down with the verses though. That's why I do every. He'd be like, all right, Jay Z just dropped the poohs. Listen, I know, like he said, these are hymns. These are hymns because he's hem. And I don't need a new Jay Z album, but if he drops one, I hope he calls it Book of Hove. I hope he calls it book of hove. And I don't need it.

You know, Jay Z solidified. I'm still, I'm not going to hold you. If niggas being real, you talk about like breaking down the dexterity and we're breaking down what niggas do lyrically, if niggas not really done breaking down 4-4-4. Nick's not really done breaking down the card is what he was saying on the carders. Which are very slept on album. Like, you talk about what Hoves is doing lyrically. Nick's not done breaking that down before he even give us something else.

Very true. Nigel, it's going to take, it's going to take niggas at least a year to finish breaking this down. No, it's a lot there. You can't just ingest this in four minutes. Now, I've been listening to it for the past week, and it's a lot. It's a lot there. Like, I'm still trying to figure out why he said, well, you know, why he said Breezy, what the business is. We push in Finty, like, $50.

The shit is all legitimate. Me, like, I didn't, I don't, I don't even know if that's Chris Brown he talking about. I thought it was, but it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense the way he went into it. I think he's talking about Jay Brown. I don't think he's talking about Jay Brown, the president of the Rock name. Yeah, I know, I don't think he's talking about Jay Brown. Oh, because he does all the, he does all the, uh, the back end business.

Yeah, I think he's saying, I think he's, I think he's saying, I think he's talking about Jay Brown. I don't know if the, I'm at the cap table with the splits is, not that cap table. Boy, we lived this. I don't know if that was a cap shot. No. Colin Cabin. I don't know. No.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know, man. It's a lot there, bro. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot there. All right. That's it. We did it. Thank you to Nav and the ladies of poor minds for pulling up again. Lex and Dreia. Thank you to Nile and Miles Jones. Andrew will be back next week. And as always, if you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right, too. It's the brilliant idiotist podcast. Thank you for listening.