The Brilliant Idiots - Bi-Nority Report
Episode Date: July 12, 2025In this episode of Brilliant Idiots, Charlamagne The God and Andrew Schulz dive deep into today’s most pressing cultural and political issues. From the controversy surrounding a Love Island contes...tant’s racial slur and what it reveals about race and identity, to the shifting political tides in New York City and the rise of democratic socialism, no topic is off-limits. We also examine the heavy toll of capitalism on education—exploring student debt, rising tuition, and access to opportunity. On the global stage, we unpack rising geopolitical tensions between Taiwan, China, and the U.S., and what they mean for international relations. Plus, we explore ongoing speculation around the Epstein case and what the elusive “list” could expose about powerful elites. Rounding out the episode, we get personal—discussing the nature of real vs. performative friendships in the entertainment industry, and sharing heartfelt reflections on marriage, love, and finding a life partner in today’s world. ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots Uncommon Favor - Dawn Staley Order - https://a.co/d/4pLD1C3 No Holes Barred -Mandi B & Weezy WTF https://a.co/d/cGFDUoB Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks By Charlamagne Tha God https://a.co/d/gpFlOol Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" https://blackeffect.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Yep, Shalaman Naga.
We are the Brilliant Idiot Podcast, back for another week of brilliant idiotness.
Everka Walker.
Hello, sir.
I need fucking glasses, bro.
Yeah, I can't see shit no more.
Man, I'm telling you, man.
I went to the doctor.
Really?
I went to the vision doctor.
She gave me the whole test.
I passed it.
Really?
So I'm like, what am I see?
Is this just what the world looks like?
Like, why is so blurry?
What did she say?
She was like, dude, you don't need glasses.
Like, you have 20-20 vision.
Get the fuck out of it.
Get the ass.
I don't like that because you got to do that eye test.
And if you focus on that eye test,
enough, you can pay attention to it.
Exactly. But you're not focusing like that and every day.
Like, I'm not staring at shit. I'm not squinting that shit.
No. I'm not doing this all day.
I agree.
I'm what you going to do now?
Chris, I'm sorry. He ain't mean it, you know his heart.
No. He's been on the islands, man. You can get a little loose out there.
Yo, speaking to islands and speaking to that, you saw the young lady?
You said eyelids?
Did you see the young lady who got kicked off Love Island?
Yeah, Sierra. That wasn't right, man.
What did they kick her off for?
They kicked her off because she used an Asian slur?
Yes, but she used it on herself.
What did she say?
She was, pull it up, pull up the quote so I can read it and quote it.
I don't want to just be out here screaming it for no goddamn reason.
Chris is producing because we on Baby Watch, Taylor might be having a baby.
God damn, Chris had that shit ready to go.
Chris, what?
You don't think that's been in the group chat?
Yeah, you don't think that's been in the Taiwan group chat?
So they've been going on her ass.
That's had that shit ready to go.
That's been there, Gaza.
So Sierra said Botox isn't for everyone, but I love it for me.
I am incredibly expressive with my face and word I can't read.
Catch myself frowning for no reason throughout the day when I'm focusing on something or thinking too hard.
I can also be a little...
Words.
What?
That's what she said?
No, she said...
Yeah.
E.
Thanky, but with a C.A.
Yeah.
When I laugh.
Act like you're a blood.
They're binky.
Yeah, she can be a little binky.
A little binkie.
Okay, so here's the thing that, like, this is the thing where I kind of feel bad for her.
I don't know if she knows that that word is bad.
I know she doesn't.
Clearly doesn't.
I know she doesn't.
And I think that there are a lot of cultures that use that word.
Like, white people know all the bad words because we're told to not be racist.
So we know every bad word we shouldn't say.
So when a white guy says something or a white girl says a bad word,
keep in mind, like, they knew it was bad when they said it.
When minorities say these words, they don't have the same stress about being racist.
A Mexican girl growing up and wherever she's from, she's not worried about being called racist.
She's like, I'm a minority.
You can't even call me racist.
Especially for that when she's talking about herself.
Also, I grew up off Wu Tang.
Wu Tang used to use that all the time.
I mean, yeah, but they are Asian.
That's what somebody said.
Nobody told me that.
They was like, well, they kind of accepted.
accepted into the fold.
But I think minorities use that term all the time.
What the fuck is a minority?
That's a new shit?
Yeah.
What the fuck?
A minority.
Yeah, you don't know what a minority is?
Or a bisexual minority?
Yeah, it's like that guy, like, oh, God.
What?
Don't you have a minority podcast?
Okay.
Oh, okay.
When you're a minority, it's when you're minority but two things.
You're two things that are minority.
You know what I'm?
Listen.
Scared the shit out of Chris making that fucking...
That Vespa.
He made that Ves.
He thought he was getting in.
But you know, I think that this was also Love Island playing fair.
Because there's another young lady.
What's the other young lady name?
By the way, I don't know shit about Love Island.
I just heard about it on vacation because apparently everybody around me watches this show.
So it was like everybody was going to bed at 9 o'clock to go watch fucking Love Island.
But there was another young lady on the show who used the N-word.
Yeah. But also...
Non-white?
Non-white, she's like Latino or something like that.
Yeah, everybody non-white can use it now.
But go to the, go to the...
Said me.
Go to the thing.
Go to the...
You have the clip?
We probably can insert it later.
But she's using it in the context of like endearment.
Yeah.
She's referring to her home girl as the N-word.
Yeah.
And then her home girl starts talking about some...
I don't know if she was an N-word.
She was like, that N-word I was dating and not N-Ware.
You know what I mean?
Perfect, but that's it.
Like, now I'm fucking my nigger.
He's my nigger.
So it was like, it was kind of used in the way that everybody uses it.
But, you know.
But shout out to the producers for keeping the same.
It was fair.
Listen, it's fair all across the board.
You know what I mean?
I just need.
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, guys.
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
They still might have 20 to 20 vision.
You don't know.
Like, the show is about train wrecks.
You can't be surprised when train wrecks wreck the train.
You know what I mean?
It's just like you have a bunch of train wrecks out there.
You think that people that are this crazy on camera
haven't done crazy things off camera in their past.
You specifically hired them for this role to be unhinged.
I don't watch the show, so I don't know what the fuck's going on.
But I will say this.
Like all reality TV is.
Yeah, like, but it's 2025.
What I would have liked to see it happen
because all of this shit is old, right?
Like I think this, her post is from like 2015.
Yeah.
The other young lady's post was on an older podcast.
You know, let's have the conversation.
Exactly.
Because both of them apologize.
Like, and both of them, I think they were very sincere apologies.
Like the young lady who used N-word, she was like, yo, I didn't know no better.
You know, I made a mistake.
I'm owning up to it, blah, blah, blah.
This is such a great point.
Like, let's have the conversation.
When you stop the conversation and you immediately silence everybody or punish everybody,
what happens is everybody's terrified and then it pushes the conversation to the
radicals on the extremes and they're actually racist. They're actually hateful. And then they
control the discourse. You've got to let people make mistakes. You got to let people and, you know,
the real racist is not even upset about this because they're like neither one of y'all use it right.
Exactly. You didn't use the Asian slur, right? And you didn't use the black slur right.
The Asian slur can't be that bad if you're allowed to use the exact word in a different context.
I looked it up in the dictionary. I didn't see it though. You can see, you can say there's a chink in the
armor. Now, I thought about that. You can say that. Nobody can cancel you for saying that.
There was. I don't, I don't remember the exact thing, but there was a New York post headline during the
Jeremy Lynn run where they used it in that phrase.
No. Yeah. And the post-cloth. I got to look that up.
Everyone was kind of like, no, no, no, no, no. It was like Jeremy Lynn's. Well, see, that's different.
Hold, let me look it up. So, if I'm in London and I'm out drinking and I want
You can smoke a in London.
Say it.
You can smoke a fucking London.
If you're in Britain, you can smoke a f*** in America.
That word has a very different connotation.
And this is, yo, like, this is for...
No, it's ESPN that did that, Chris.
He got fired.
This is funny.
What is it?
ESPN fires writer of offensive headline about Jeremy Lynn.
ESPN has fired the employer responsible for writing an offensive headline about basketball
sensation Jeremy Lynn and suspended an anchor who used the same ethnic slur.
The Sports Network said Sunday.
The headline red chink in the armor referencing the New York Knicks 89, 85, lost Friday night.
Yeah, that was a fireball.
Yeah, I mean, that was fine.
Come on.
Well, that was fire.
Here's why it's fire.
Here's why it's fireable.
Because you're using the double entendre on purpose.
On purpose.
If you say there's a chink in the armor, you're only talking about armor.
You're only talking about that dent or that chip or whatever it is in that set of arms.
This is like.
Unless Marvel's doing diversity and they have an Asian ant man.
Who jumps in an Iron Man suit.
You know what I'm saying?
That could be crazy.
You make a great point.
If you're talking about who's in the armor, that's racist.
If you're talking about what's happened to the armor, that's not racist.
That's not racist.
Absolutely.
This is why like the Mammani shit where he said that he was African American on his college application or whatever.
Like this is why it's very interesting because he did what?
You didn't hear about this shit?
No.
He's been away.
What?
He said he's African American in his college application.
application. Who? Mamdani, the guy who's the Democratic nominee for mayor. Oh, got you, got you, got you. I call him, uh, Zorran. So it's like, he said he's
African-American. Now, he was born in Uganda. Technically, he is African-American in the way that Elon Musk is African-American. But what I would say here is.
What the Post says he is? Whatever the New York Post says he is. That's what he is. I mean, yeah, they say he's 9-11.
That's exactly. Big Musk. I mean, that's crazy.
They got him as the Muslim that's going bomb everybody.
I know.
He's at the fucking gay pride parade.
I don't think we got to worry about this one.
I agree.
But the point I'm trying to make is he knows what African American means here.
African American has a different meaning in America, just like the British cigarette in Britain is a very different meaning than in America.
Is it, though, because it goes in your mouth.
Is it?
Is it?
What about?
The bundle of sticks.
Same thing.
Yeah, I don't know if they use it like that colloquially there.
I'm not exactly sure.
I guess what I'm trying to say is he's a smart dude and he knows what he was doing.
He was gaining an advantage on an application.
He was taking a spot that would be reserved for a black person and using that to his advantage.
So you can't be like, oh, I am African American because you know what African American means in America.
African American means black in America.
That's what it means.
Yeah.
So Africans don't even say that.
because they're African.
That's what I'm African-American.
Like actual Africans that come from a country,
they don't even say I'm African-American.
Not that I realized.
Exactly.
So, like, I think that is a critical,
or you can be critical of that thing.
But at the same time,
everybody to go into college is finding whatever shred
of Native American they are so they can put it for having.
I just went through this.
With your kids.
Yeah, because I was, you have no,
you have zero advantage of being Asian.
Oh, no, it hurts you.
It hurts you.
It hurts you.
So, my kids are,
you're Asian and Jewish.
Your kids ain't qualified.
going to college at all. Too many qualified Asian kids. But my kids technically are Pacific Islanders
because my wife is like 25% Aboriginal Taiwanese, right? Like not. Not the nationalists that
moved from China. Not Han Chinese, but like actual, people who look more like Filipino. Right.
And most. You don't count being Jewish? Like that doesn't? They don't care. Yeah. Too many Jews. But like,
so I was like, well, shit, let's just put Pacific Islander then because they are Pacific Islander. And she was like,
we can't do that. And I was like, why, she's like, because it's not about what's on the DNA test.
They haven't lived a Pacific Island experience. I think your wife is like incredibly high
morality. He has much higher morals. Yeah. Whereas like, I think there are a lot of people that
probably did what Mumdani did. But the thing is that like if you get caught, you're allowed
to be criticized. I wish I hadn't knew that. I would have asked him that. Like I want to, I want to know
why he did that. That just happened. Oh, it just, okay, okay. All this shit about him is just going to come
out. Nobody really knew anything about him because they didn't think he had. Oh.
And now that they know we're going to learn every...
And Adams is running with it.
It's disrespectful to African-Americans.
It could have taken...
Now, the irony is I think that it was at Columbia where his father, I believe, was a professor
at the time.
I'm more concerned that he didn't get in with his father being a professor.
What's that say about you?
Like, that's supposed to be a layup.
No, not if your dad knows them that.
We don't know your dad.
Yeah, that's the nepotism and shit.
But here's the thing.
It's like, the last thing we're going to do is start criticizing elite institutions for
depotism because that's how all...
their fucking kids get in.
It's hard of the application.
They literally go, do you have a family member that went here?
And then when you do, you get in.
It was the opposite.
Rejected.
He got rejected.
And he didn't get in.
He didn't get in.
No, he did go to Columbia.
No, he did.
He went to Bowdoin.
Oh, I thought he went to Columbia.
Let me double check.
You know what's so interesting about this conversation, we're really about to see how
stupid liberals are and how they cannibalize themselves.
You got this guy who's a hot candidate, and you know that they're going to come at him
with every.
I mean, they're going to throw.
The media, the Republicans, whoever is the opposition is, everybody.
It's just Jews and Republicans that are coming in.
That's a lot.
Who the hell want to go to war with this?
That's a lot.
What are you talking about?
Just?
What you mean?
Just?
What are you talking about?
That's two infinity stones.
What are you talking about?
You remember in the end game, when Thano's had two infinity stones.
He was like, he was already the house.
I was like, he's already the most powerful person.
My point is, they know that people are going to come at them with, come at him with everything.
Yeah.
And they're going to fall for it.
They're going to fall for it.
Oh, that he's not going to be liberal enough.
Yes.
Yeah, you can never pass the purity test.
Now, with liberals.
I don't think so.
He's doing a pretty good job having that.
And Hakeem Jeffries, Chuck Schumer, then will not co-sign him in the least.
Well, you know why.
All of those elite Democrat.
You know why.
You know why.
Hey, follow the money.
my boy you'll find out why so that's gonna help him i don't think so with the sentiment that people
have right now when i looked at the breakdown of the demographic the people that voted for him
he's still got a lot of holes like black people didn't really show up for him it's yeah it's
you need jewish people in new yorksie's base is very simple it is white college educated hipsters
that make a hundred thousand dollars a year but have don't see any opportunity for upward mobility
Mm-hmm. So they have-
And Asians, I think it wasn't Indians.
Maybe, Chris.
But they have, no, I doubt that.
Maybe Indians because they look at him and they're like he's Indian.
But like they basically, it's white kids who went to college, got $200,000 worth of student loans, have no idea how they're going to pay it off and have a good job, but no real upward mobility in the job.
And they're just going, hey, I did what you told me.
I did everything right.
I got the job.
I'm supposed to be rich.
And I'll never be able to buy a house.
So they're upset.
And now they're like, I want the government.
Like it's not just white kids.
I think it's all kids who came out of that system.
Yo, they're just, yes.
But that's the face of it.
Yo, guess what?
His highest demo, 508% Asian, 35.8% white or Caucasian, 30.2% Hispanic or Latino of any race.
20.5% black of African Americans.
Others was 29.2%.
Yeah.
So Asians showed up for him in a big way.
But what does that mean?
Jewish people make up 10% in New York City, guys.
No.
gotta be higher than that.
Oh, I thought it was like 10%.
I don't know if that's so much.
It's 2% is under 2 of the country
and it's the biggest Jewish city of the world.
The point is, the point is, yeah,
the Democratic Party does not like him
because he represents a part of the party
that the Democratic establishment does not like,
which is the Democratic Socialist,
which is where the fucking party is.
They just won't acknowledge it.
Like, the Democratic Party is the Democratic Socialist Party.
Whether you like it or not,
that's what the base one.
wants. That's what the people are into. And the old establishment is not what they're into.
Honestly, that's what America wants. And you know why he, I'm going to tell you the language that
he was using. And we had this conversation on Breakfast Club because I'm like, yo, Democrats,
y'all can come up with names for everything, right? Pregnant people or all that, like, right?
But you can't come up with a better term for socialism. So when he uses the term affordability
and he just talks about how things aren't affordable, that resonates with everybody.
Our campaign is one that sees this city under attack in two ways.
An affordability crisis on the inside.
We're the most expensive city in the United States of America.
One in four New Yorkers are living in poverty.
The rest are living in a permanent state of anxiety
about whether they can keep affording this city.
And then we're under attack from the outside from a Trump administration
that is hell bent on going after not only New Yorkers,
but frankly, democratic cities across the country
like we're seeing in Los Angeles right now.
That's what people want to hear.
New York's too fucking expensive.
The message is resonating.
Here's the thing, and this is the very, this is the thing.
Poor people did not vote for him, okay?
Poor uneducated people did not vote for him,
because poor uneducated people, unfortunately,
do not have the same entitlement to their dreams
than middle class and rich people do.
If you're like middle class, upper middle class and rich,
you're like, I deserve to be super rich
and have everything work out, and like, I'm entitled to that.
four people a lot of times come from generations of poverty and they don't see that upper mobility.
It's sad. It's tragic.
But wouldn't affordability resonate with those four people, though?
Like when they hear somebody simply say, hey, shit is too expensive.
Yeah, but they didn't vote for them.
So to me, the message that's really connecting are these people who feel entitled to a better life because they did everything that they were supposed to do, i.e. go to college.
They got a meaningless degree.
They have $200,000 worth of debt that they cannot get out of.
And they're like, okay, I need the government to help me, which is understandable.
The problem is the solutions that Zoran has, many of them, I'm not saying all of them, but many of them,
he either cannot execute or they actually won't work to help the people.
And that is, there is like data to prove and back this.
So I think the message is really resonating.
And to be honest with you, I think the only party right now that you could say actually puts America first are the Democratic Socialists.
Like if you really want to talk about, oh, rah, rah, rah, rah, mega, America.
America first.
Not.
America first thing right now.
It's going against
what the base wants.
Absolutely.
I've been inflating the fucking budget,
continuing to foreign wars.
Absolutely.
Like, the only party right now
that is America first,
meaning I want to help American people,
maybe the way they want to do it
won't work and it could be detrimental,
but at least the messaging
and the intentions
are to help the American people
are the Democratic Socialists.
You want to know why?
Talk to me.
Because of all the minorities
that are Democratic Socialists.
The blacks, the Latinos,
the gays,
because those
are the people who really believe in what America says it is.
I think Democratic Socialists are a bunch of college-educated white kids.
I think that's what it.
That's it.
Not that's it.
It's a big tit.
That's the majority.
It's all the hipsters that's like, okay, I came here, I moved here.
I thought I was going to be able to buy my own apartment.
I realize that that's not going to be an opportunity.
I bet you a lot of those kids are minorities.
I don't disagree.
I think there are definitely minorities for sure, but I wouldn't underscore how many.
You're not a kid.
Yeah, you're 40 years old.
You're gay.
You are a minority.
You're a minority.
You're a minority.
You're a minority.
You're a minority.
Shut up.
What? What?
You're a minority.
No, but just a correction before Jewish people make up 14% of the voter base in New York City.
Let's go.
Yeah.
Yes, I'm saying.
You got to, you got to have him to win New York.
And Mayor Adams is leaning in.
But he didn't have him during the primary, and he blew everybody out the war.
I wonder, and I'm not saying that that wasn't a great win.
I'm just wondering how much stock do we put into the primary.
How many people actually get energized and show up for primaries?
I think of frustration a lot of Americans have right now is this idea that like all of our politicians are afraid of pissing off Israel for some reason.
So like when Mamdani is in that press conference where they ask every other person in the primary where they're going to take their first foreign trip, which is like, why are you even asking the mayor of a city in America where he's going to take a foreign trip?
He's the only one that goes, I'm not going nowhere.
I'm working for the people of New York.
I'm staying right here.
I think that that was really refreshing to a lot of New Yorkers who are just like, why is every politician tap dancing for Israel?
What the fuck is going on here?
And the reality is, and Bernie Sanders spoke about this, is like, they're terrified.
that APAC will primary that.
They're terrified that APAC will put millions of millions of dollars.
Follow the money, my boy. Say again?
Follow the money. Follow the money. So the APAC will put millions and millions of dollars
to get some. And that is the, you know, what essentially is happening for the people that
you suggested. Like, you follow the money. You're going to see a lot of money in the bank
account of those people. Oh, Hakeem Jeffrey's APAC stupid. I think they get two millie.
It's close to it. Yeah. And the primary is super telling because usually people, it's a low voter
Nobody votes in New York for mayor, bro.
It's usually older people and real go-hard voters.
So the fact that he energized a younger base to come out and vote during a primary is just telling for the actual election.
But why didn't he energize black people, which was the biggest voting base for Democrats in New York?
And also we're in New York.
My guess is his message didn't get there yet.
Because unfortunately, there are uninformed voters that kind of just like vote on what they know.
And it's like, oh, I don't know this person.
So I'm not.
But black people showed up for Cuomo.
Because they know his name recognition.
Okay.
And the problem with Cuomo, he's such a fucking idiot that he didn't say that he won't run.
So even if he doesn't run, his name will still be on the ballot.
Oh, really?
Which is going to split the vote for whoever's opposing Mamdani.
Adams.
It's going to help Adams.
Well, it's going to help Mandani.
Chris, you said, you said you feel like Adams would beat Mundani.
You still feel that way?
Well, because I feel like there's this kind of like twin.
unintentional coalition forming, which is Jews and African Americans, and that's a big block.
We just talked about...
Right.
We just talked about...
That's not a much squad right thing.
All I would say to...
What you're talking about?
These blacks have had a lot of success, man.
Music industry.
You just named my squad!
I don't know what you said.
So I would just say to my...
To my Jewish brothers and sons.
sisters. Don't do this. Don't do what? Don't do what? Don't freak out and run it, jump into bed with
Adams or Cuomo, whoever it is. Democratic socialism is actually very close to the roots of the Jewish
political identity in America. This is, don't freak out that this guy's Muslim. This is the right
candidate. I was a Bradlander's guy. I've said that. I'm not like head over heels about
this guy, but like, I want to see socialism get a legit shot in New York City.
What happens?
I don't know.
Not going to happen.
This is the capitalist hub of the world.
If you want to try socialism, okay, go try it in Ohio or some shit.
New York City represents the worst parts of capitalism.
We literally live on top of each other in shoeboxes separated by six inches of drywall.
There is nothing about this city that says humans should be here outside of this capitalist
term.
But what's happening isn't working.
We can all agree with that.
Isn't working for what?
Isn't working for the poor?
Because it worked.
Yeah, that's capitalism.
New York City is not.
In New York City, there's a progress.
This group comes in.
What you're saying is right.
But you're supposed to be able to work your way up.
Whatever group comes in.
Now everybody's stuck.
Yeah.
Now everybody's stuck.
You got to unstick it.
Yes.
But you know what show said is true.
Capitalism is work.
It's working exactly the way it's designed to work.
For the risk to continue to get rich of.
Sure, but there was always more movement.
There was always more fluidity.
I agree with you, and I think that that's the problem, but the problem is...
I don't know if it's a New York problem specifically.
No, this is everywhere.
Right.
This is America.
And like, honestly, you've got to hold accountable at a certain point of time.
We've got to look at these, like, educational institutions that the second the government
did something that was very benevolent, the government said, hey, we're going to give you
whatever loans you need so you can get an education because we want an educated
populace.
That's a kind thing to do.
The second they did that, these institutions started jacking up the fucking price of bullshit degrees,
and now these kids are saddled with $200,000 worth of debt.
Now, they should have the agency of their own decisions, and they should deal with the consequences, sure.
But these institutions know that a fucking liberal arts degree doesn't cost $200,000.
It's honestly, what is that word, where you're like a leech on something?
Dowsing? Parasites.
It's parasitic.
Yeah, but they're parasitic.
I got a big one on me right now.
What do you got?
I'm a big parasite on me right now.
But you got lines.
No, I'm saying.
My daughter's going to college.
Oh, shit.
You're talking 200.
That sounds like a fantastic deal.
What?
Oh, it's more?
What is she getting an education in?
I mean, she has to figure that out.
She's not going in to be pre-maged.
AI is the only thing that would make sense for her.
Listen, it's a very scary proposition.
I've given it tons of thought.
It definitely does not make sense on paper.
You see the center of the trade school.
I'm rolling the day.
dice, and it might not work.
I don't know.
Like, for real.
Like, that's what I teach you how, that's what the money had, yo.
It took me forever to get into the city today.
I'm like, damn, if I had a moped right now,
you'd be out.
I'll be out.
That's how I get around the city.
I want to say something else about capitalism, too, man.
America has more than enough money to solve every single financial problem that's
happening in this country.
But instead, we spend it on foreign wars.
It's unbelievable.
And we spend it on foreign wars.
We spend it on just things.
And that's what frustrates people when.
When people sit back and they're like, damn, this money going over here and this money going over there.
If America was taken care of, if the least of us in America was taking care of, nobody would give a fuck what they do in other country.
Nobody would give a flying fuck how much money they'd give Israel.
Nobody give a fuck.
How much money they give Ukraine?
Nobody would give a shit about how much the military gets there.
Nobody would care if the poor and disenfranchise was taken care of in America.
So here's the reality.
Let's just call it what it is.
Maybe America can't afford to be help in all these other countries.
Oh, 100%
So like that's just what it's like you have to take care of us before you take care of anybody else.
You got to put your oxygen mask on first.
And right now it feels like we're putting oxygen mask on all these other countries when in reality we're out here with no oxygen.
Let's save one oxygen mask though.
Say again.
Let's not get crazy.
Save one oxygen mask.
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
Taiwan might need a little.
But why did you move?
But that's why America first messaging worked.
You're good by the way.
Because if China takes over Taiwan.
we're going to bomb the chip factors.
And they haven't been able to replicate those chip factories
on their own home soil, China.
So the only way they could do it
is if they use the chip factors
that already exist in Taiwan,
but we won't let that happen.
So now they realize, oh, fuck,
there's no real purpose in doing that.
I think they, I actually don't...
I think it's deeper than the chips, though.
No, no, it is deeper than the chips.
When I'm saying it is because it's part of their...
They see it as a breakaway province,
and all those other stuff,
but they're not willing to risk the relationship
of the United States of America.
They're too dependent on...
I don't think we care, to your point.
I think people are tired.
We care about them chips.
We care about the...
We have our factory in Arizona and eventually...
But it doesn't even make close to them.
I know, but eventually they'll get it, right.
What you mean?
Eventually, though.
Eventually is what, how many years from that?
Well, it's interesting.
We talk about college degrees,
and one of my wife's uncles
knows a bit about the place in Arizona.
The issue is there's just not enough qualified
people with engineering degrees,
in America to fill these roles.
And everybody they bring is Taiwanese,
but you hit a certain point
and there's security clearances
that they can't get through.
So there are, like, fantastic jobs out there
waiting for people.
It's just not.
That's also, that is a part of it,
but that's not the only reason.
In order for one of these chips to be made,
there's this, like, interconnect.
We were talking to Farid Zakaria.
From CNN.
Yeah, on the pod.
He came in the pot,
he was fascinating.
But he was like,
in order for one of these chips to be made,
there is like an intercontinental multi-nation cooperation of what's going on, right?
So it's like a Dutch company that's printing them in these factories there.
They're like 10 different countries, maybe even more, all have to create these different
little components to make it happen.
Let's say China seized those factories.
The rest of the countries that have integral parts to this supply chain would just stop
supporting them, so it would do nothing.
Would they though?
Yeah, they already do it right now.
The American put the country is called like TMSA or something.
TMSC, yeah.
Yeah, and America says you can't sell to China.
They go, okay.
And like his argument for this was this is why the tariff strategy is bad because what
America has been able to do is embrace the future.
Right.
By outsourcing important parts, crucial parts, to other countries that are our allies.
Unfortunately, we've outsourced some that are our adversaries, and that's very dangerous.
and we need to stop that, we need to subsidize it in America.
But outsourcing certain things to your allies isn't bad.
It's only bad when you start disrupting those relationships with the way that this terror process is gone.
I thought that was a really coherent criticism of the way the terror thing has been handled.
What's that coming out? I didn't see that episode.
That's what be out next week.
Okay, okay, okay.
Yeah, got, you got to get to got.
To the guy who said, I'll marinate the chicken, then forgot.
Hi, your Safeway PA announcer here.
We've got pre-marinated meat.
So all that's left is pretending you made it yourself.
Listen, man, it's been a very interesting time.
What do you think about the Epstein list not coming out?
Yeah, we owe Epstein an apology, man.
We owe Epstein an apology.
We owe Just Lane an apology, man.
Epstein is dead.
Olin apology for what?
I mean, he was obviously wrongly convicted.
Get to fuck, guys.
Yes, he killed himself because he was wrongly convicted
and there was no evidence against him.
He was about to be acquitted.
He's like, you know what?
Gotta kill myself.
Can you imagine the pain and scrutiny
that you must live under
for the world to think
that you're a pedophile?
I'm not even going to debate
about whether or not he killed himself.
I think that's like a silly argument
because I don't know if it's true or not.
The thing that I will debate
is you're not going to tell me an Fstein list
didn't exist after y'all are the ones who told me this.
Why are we talking about this, man?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's a creep.
Get over it.
What was that dumb shit Trump said?
He's a creep.
Man body, that's been talking about for years.
That's.
You know, and here's the funny thing about
Jeffrey and Epstein.
This guy's been talked about for years.
You're asking, we have Texas, we have this,
we have all of the things.
And are people still talking about this guy, this creep?
That is unbelievable.
Do you want to waste the time?
Do you feel like answering?
I don't mind answering.
I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question
on Epstein at a time like this
where we're having some of the,
the greatest success and
also tragedy with
what happened in Texas. It just seems
you can't believe we'd ask a question
about Epstein when you just
Can I play another clip that that reminded me
of? It's not like the exact same clip.
What about people who say you're only interested in the Middle East for
oil? What?
Oh, oil?
Who says something about oil, bitch, you're cooking?
Hey guys.
Y'all want to know,
You all want to know why the Epstein list didn't come out?
Yes.
Mutually assured destruction.
Yes.
Everybody stopped lying to your fucking self.
I know it sounds good to say, hey, the president is on this list.
Donald Trump is on this list.
He might be.
But I know I saw the flight logs.
On the flight logs, there was a lot of elected officials from Israel.
There was Bill Clinton.
You know what I'm saying?
Royal family.
The royal family, Prince Andrew.
They all got to go down then.
Elite.
But that's why it didn't come out.
Educators at elite institutions.
Let's go.
That's why it didn't come out.
You got too many powerful people on that list.
Mutually is a short description.
So whoever was in office was going to have to deal with that.
This is the Kennedy assassination again.
They're just going to lie to the American people about how it happened.
And then we basically just got to sit here and take it, which is bullshit.
You're out of your mind if you think a Democratic administration would have put that list out.
This is what I don't know.
If Biden had one again or Kamala would have.
want, that list was not coming out.
And they had it for four,
they had it for four years during Biden's term.
Keep it in mind. They had all this information.
But he ran on it. No, no, no. We're going to get
to that in a second because I really want to talk about that.
Why do you think Biden never used it against Trump?
Exactly. If I use it against Trump, then I got out of a bunch of my guys.
Exactly. And the reality is, and I don't know, but this is what it seems like.
It seems like the U.S. intelligence apparatus, the CIA, the FBI,
was in on it.
And in order to out this list, in order to out the blackmail operation,
they would be outing themselves for running a child sex ring to incriminate and...
Hold on. I ain't heard this one. This is a good one.
To incriminate and compromise powerful figures in our country.
Bare minimum, the U.S., probably the U.S. and Israel.
So you think this list was used for purposes to keep people in line?
Of course.
The honeypot.
The honey pot. These honey pot troughs.
But is America ready?
to acknowledge that with taxpayer dollars,
their intelligence community,
the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, all these things,
paid for and ran a child fucking campaign
to compromise people with power and influence.
Damn.
I can, we definitely do it in other countries.
That's no question.
I just don't know if we would run that in our own country.
So are any real kids?
are like midgets that are like look like and I'm serious.
No, they're like undercover midgets that are adults.
They're real kids. They came out. The kids have came out. And then Cash Patel went on Rogan and he
said, we don't want to re-victimize the women. The women are begging for justice.
You don't have to re-victimize them. They're asking you for justice, which you will not give
them. Because it's mutually assured destruction. The reason Joe Biden never used the Epstein
list against Trump because he got people that's on the list.
You'll have to ruin the legacy of people that you love and care about.
You got to burn it all down.
So, or there's another.
Chris, you know that.
I'm not saying they're not on the list.
There's no question Masada's involved.
Right.
I would just say I would throw those people under the bus to be able to take out Trump if I'm then.
So here's the thing.
But you might take out to yourself.
No, you can't.
I don't think he's realizing.
It's so entrenched, Chris.
Listen, Ihu Barack, the foreign prime minister of Israel, Bill Clinton, the president of
United States of America.
Like, you can't just be like, oh, yeah, Epstein did it with Trump.
And then once you say Epstein did with Trump, you're acknowledging that there was a black
male ring and that he was the leader of the black male ring.
What they've done now is said there was no such thing.
And he was just procuring thousands of girls for him, even though he was Lex Westner gave him
power of attorney over his whole finances and gave him the most expensive housing unit in
New York City for no reason that Leon Black gave him $170 million for tax advice.
Get the fuck out of here.
You're insulting our intelligence to act like there was not some form of, I don't even
know if you want to call blackmail, but organized operation here that was using children
and the abuse and the sexual assault of children
that our intelligence agencies were involved in Alex Acosta,
we all know Alex Acosta, you know who he is,
he was a district attorney in Palm Beach,
and then later it was going to be the labor secretary
before they kicked him to the side,
said when they asked him,
I believe it was in the Senate hearing,
when he gave Epstein that sweetheart deal,
he said, I was told he was with intelligence.
That's all we really know.
need to know. So what
intelligence? Why would he say
with intelligence, like to me, that means it has to be
American intelligence, because if he was with
foreign intelligence, then
you would go, well, fucking
clip him. He's with foreign intelligence.
Why is there a...
Unless that foreign intelligence
is black. Wait, he said that, say this right now.
Unless that foreign intelligence
has something on us.
And that's what I was going to say. The same foreign intelligence is the reason
why all the Democratic primary
candidates are saying their first trip is going to
to a certain place?
Well, guys, now we're trafficking.
Listen, I love your theory, but what would be the point of that theory if you're not
going to actually catch the mice once they get in the trap?
Well, you just perpetually have power over them.
Oh, yeah.
You don't want to catch them.
Interesting.
So there's another theory that we...
You got to think about the Russians, too, though, because this is their go-to move.
If you're just talking strict, like blackmail entrapment, honeypots, obviously with Epstein,
you lean towards Assad, but like, there are a lot of people who traffic in this.
I can see that. And you know how you know that there's a lot of powerful people on this list?
Because if I was Donald Trump and I'm the president, I'm just like, okay, if I'm on there, take me off.
And then we're going to release this list.
No, buddy.
Too many powerful people.
It would be mutually assured destruction to put out the Epstein list.
Wouldn't it crush America?
I mean, like, in my personal opinion, I think you need to destroy it to build back the faith.
But I imagine a lot of these people, like, think whoever they is, let's say it's the CIA,
let's say at the FBI, let's say they sit down with, and I'm talking about the permanent CIA and FBI,
not the ones that you get this like figurehead, they get to pop it in every administration and say they run it.
I'm talking about the ones that are running it the whole time.
Well, maybe they sit down with Trump and they sit down with cash, they sit down to Bongino,
and they sit down to Bondi and they go, guys, here's the deal.
If we announced that we were the ones were aware of this and running this,
we're acknowledging that we ran a child sex trafficking ring within our country to compromise our own citizens.
that information cannot get out to the American people
if they are to have faith in our institutions.
And if it does, everybody involves,
maybe even the entirety of the institutions,
has to get destroyed.
That's the only way forward.
You can't just have an FBI and CIA after that.
So are we ready to go without an FBI and CIA?
Yeah, but you're a person who actually cares about America.
You're a person who's not compromised.
And I think that's the sad part about a lot of these situations.
What we're realizing is there's never going to be,
be any draining of the swamp, y'all. Once you get in these positions, you are automatically compromised.
It just is what it is. So the thing I don't understand. And if you do, it by the whole one,
okay. And if you really do try to drain the swamp, bang, bang. It's right. It's like that.
Be missing more than a little piece of your ear. But the thing I don't understand is Epstein got
arrested and murdered, I mean, convicted. Convicted and committed suicide during Trump's first term.
Trump, if let's say your theory is correct and you know you can't divulge that he was
intelligence and that will like erode the public's trust in the government, then why would
Trump during his second term run on the fact that I'm going to show, give you guys all the
document?
But Trump runs on.
Misdirection.
Not just misdirection.
Trump runs on everything.
We were talking about this on vacation.
I've said this minute.
Trump runs on everything.
We did this on vacation to prove it.
You can pull up a clip of Trump's telling whatever you want to hear to you.
No matter what it is.
Name a subject.
You can pull up a clip.
Trump's saying either either or about it.
He's either for it or against it in some way, shape, or form.
Pull it up, try it.
It's a fun game to do with the house.
I'm serious.
Anything that he wants you to believe, he will tell you.
And, you know, I've read books like The Art of the Deal.
and, you know, you read things about Donald Trump.
They all say that's part of his charm.
They say he'll sit you down and tell you whatever it is you want to hear
and he'll find out what your thumb screw is.
Like, what is your wildest dream?
It'll tell you that he can make it happen.
But then why appoint people like Patel and Bondi, all these people saying that were going to do anything?
I don't agree.
I think.
Like, why would you do that?
I think he thought he was going to do something.
I think he thought he was going to stop the foreign wars.
I think he thought he was going to do a lot of shit.
And then he realized how it really works.
That's what I think
I'll
On the war, yes
You can give him credit on Israel and Gaza
What?
Credit for what?
Is there what?
I thought it's not
And then they blow up a building
The next day
It's a ceasefire
It's like
They do
Baby's playing Trump
Like a fiddle
Fiddle
By the way
That's the
This is the problem
That I have
With all of this
It's sad
It's sad
And he just fluffs his ego
Right
Like he literally
I think
He does deserve
The Peace Prize
Let's
Like, seriously.
No, no, but my point is like,
you need a recommendation for college or something
for your kid, what's going on? What's going?
He's being sarcastic.
Bebebe would do whatever the fuck he wants
and then make Trump look like an absolute
fucking retort. But why does nobody call out BB?
Why do, like, why do people say Israel?
Hey, what are you, an anti-Semite?
Huh? What are you being anti-Semitic right now?
But why do people say inner? Why don't they say
BB? Because before...
Oh, whoa, whoa, what are you? What are you
being anti-I? Hey, I feel like it's more anti-Semitic to say Israel.
You better be real Semetic right now so that you can wipe away to Antiole.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Can't say either.
You can't say before October 7th, Bebebe was public enemy number one.
Antisemitic.
They were going to send this guy to jail for corruption.
Yes.
They were protesting him for years.
Yes.
How?
Listen.
Whatever.
You just, hey, you open your mouth.
You're not a dissimatic.
Charlie just opened his mouth.
Somebody's labeled him antisemitic right now.
What the hell?
No.
This is the problem.
I think we've discussed this on this part, but like the problem with
the problem with calling a lot of things.
There's so much anti-Semitism out there.
It's actually just like really fucking sad.
And everybody thinks I'm Jewish, so I get a lot of it.
So I can prove to you right now it is there's a lot.
It's not just, you know, Jews like making shit up.
It is, there's a lot of it out there.
But the problem with calling normal questioning anti-Semitic
is that it silences people.
Because people like, I don't want to be called anti-Semitic.
I don't want people.
think I hate Jews. I have friends that are Jews. I love Jews. I don't want that
so I'm not going to say anything. And then what happens is the only people who are
willing to talk about it still are the most extreme voices who don't care if you call them
anti-Semitic because they are anti-Semitic. So what happens is the most extreme hateful
voices control the discourse. When if you didn't bully people or call them hateful for
asking simple questions that we all have, you would have a much more calm and tolerable
discourse that would not end up in all this like crazy anti-Semitism that you now see before october 7th
every jewish person i knew damn near didn't like that yahu i don't think they still like none of them
like them but they feel very they're scared they're scared to they're scared to uh acknowledge that they don't
like them because they feel like it will be they're adding fuel to the anti-israel sentiment in the
same way that like there are things that happen in the black community that i imagine black people
shun, but it is probably more difficult, I would imagine, for you guys to talk about that publicly,
because then Fox News grabs a clip and goes, see, even Charlemagne says black people better act better.
Oh, yeah, they did that to me. I mean, they do that to me when it comes to even criticizing the
Democratic people. Exactly. So, like, I think that they're in the very same way that you guys
are concerned about how your opinions will be used against you. I'm sure they're feeling a very
similar. I get it. That's why Jews have to stand up and say this is out of control. I agree.
is why I'm saying that.
No, let's say what is out of control?
Netanyahu.
What did I text to you during the whole Iran thing
when we're talking about regime change in Iran?
I was like, yeah, we need regime change in Iran.
You were like,
Dumblau, love, love, love, love, love, yeah.
I don't even know what that means.
What's that mean?
I texted you.
I said, yeah, in Israel, too.
Well, yes, yes, yes, absolutely.
Let's be real.
Like, BB's been there for, what, 30, 4.
He's leading the country down a terrible path right now.
now. I don't know if you... He doesn't even have popular
sentiment. I think only 30% of the country.
They were protesting him. He was
going to jail for corruption.
Yes. Why do we forget that?
But now you're in a war. And so... And then when you're in a war,
everybody supports the leader and, you know,
it's... Big beautiful
bill. Thoughts.
Just, I always get these
like, these like DMs or comments
that are like, when Trump does something.
They're like, so this is the guy that you voted for?
And it's like, no.
Actually, I didn't vote for expanding
the budget. I didn't vote for a continuous form of what. This is the exact opposite of the things
that people voted for. So, yeah, it's horrible. All that is horrible. His campaign worked. Yeah.
Yeah. It is what it is. He's a salesman. No, no, no, no, no. Well, here's the thing.
They're all salesmen. This is the thing that I think that we have to take accountability for as people.
We have very little flexibility with our ideals when it comes to the status quo in the
institutions, right? So like the Democratic Party that was just the institutional Democrats, the Bidens,
the Kamala's, right? We knew that they weren't going to make much change. So when you want change,
you have way more flexibility for what you perceive to be as the outsider. Mumdani is a perfect
example of this. Nobody knows how Mammani is going to do any of this shit. They don't understand
the economics of development in the city. Neither does the Mbondani party, clearly. Right? But because you just
need something to be different, you're willing to take a risk on different. And I think that's
what happened with Trump. It was like, you're so exhausted of the Democrats, not even giving us
the freedom of a choice that you're like, we need something else to write this ship. I'll say this.
Boy, damn there, everything Trump said he was going to do. Because a lot of it, like I said,
he double talks. So he did say he was going to do a lot of this stuff. And he's doing it.
I mean, does he not get his way? I have a conspiracy theory about the big beautiful bill.
Talk to me. Let's go. Everybody says the big beautiful.
bill is a political suicide for a party.
No, I don't think so.
But anyway, going to.
Because of how it's going to destroy the working class, cutting all of the Medicare, you know, food,
snap benefits, things like that, right?
If you are a party that knows this could be political suicide and you decide to pass it anyway,
what does that tell you about future elections?
That tells me the fight is fixed.
They don't give a fuck.
whatever you're going to do in
2006, we're going to win regardless.
Whatever you're going to do in 2008,
we're going to win regardless. If Trump's alive,
he's running again in 2020. Meaning the Republicans
don't care. No. It helps when you
have a private army.
And Chris said that to me today, and I was like,
oh shit, explain to me. Explain it, Chris.
I mean, have you looked what ICE is getting
under the big, beautiful bill?
What are they getting? Over $100 billion.
I mean, $45
billion, specifically
to detainee.
I mean, think about that number.
I mean, he has stopped illegal immigration.
Okay, but think about 45.
It's like zero coming across the border now.
But $45 billion to build camps.
I mean, think about that number.
Yo, give me a billion, man.
Like, I hate hearing these numbers and nobody gives me a billion.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, like, give me one billion.
I'm tired of getting the Q's selling out.
Yo, so me a fucking number.
It's a billion.
All right.
But think about, seriously, though, think about 45 billion alone.
You know, give me one billion.
Bro.
You won't even notice.
So what is the connection with ICE?
What is you?
I'm saying he just-
Is deportation camps what you say?
He just created an army, the answers to him.
Come on, stop it.
So are you saying this is his version of the SS?
It's his version of the SS.
Oh, God, Chris.
Oh, shit.
This is where-
You just lose all credibility when you say this.
I would love to be wrong.
So did ICE get the money, or did the camps get them?
Did they-
Ice gets all the money and some of us distributed
that some of it's distributed the state needs.
Send Chris back to Taiwan,
man. Let's go.
Get me the flight.
Send Chris back to Taiwan on a boat.
Send my motherfucker back on a boat.
When I need that oxygen.
Taiwan and Israel.
Taiwan and Israel.
I want to Israel.
What?
Taiwan and Israel.
That's a tough choice, man,
because the food's better in Taiwan.
The heat is impossible in the summer.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
That's just my theory, though.
I don't have to do.
I just feel like, you know,
if you pass something that you,
What would need $45 billion for camps?
Just think about that number, $45 billion.
That's not just...
Let me get a billion, bro.
Stop fucking being greedy.
So Charlotte.
You know what I really want before you say something else?
Yo, let me choose who goes to the camps.
I think y'all sending the wrong people to these camps.
No, I'm serious.
There are some great people that y'all are probably going to send to these camps.
I got some people that I can send to these camps right now.
Oh, my God.
I got a list of YouTubers right now ready to go.
Okay?
All right.
We already got Trump to demonetize a lot of these reaction videos.
We'll talk about that later on.
Go ahead.
I was like, okay.
Go ahead.
What you say?
I think they're not thinking that far because they were thinking the politicians who voted for the bill because they're thinking in the immediate.
And Trump threatened all of them, hey, we're going to primary you if you don't vote for it.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Like if you're thinking of it.
Well, here's the thing.
I'm not surprised about Republicans voting for the bill because Republicans always fall in line with each other.
I thought that that shit that they was doing when you had a couple of Republicans last week saying I'm not voting for the bill.
I thought that was just all for show.
I really did.
I didn't think any of that was real.
I'm like, yo, Republicans are going to fall in line with the bill.
So for me, it's just like, yo, if y'all say this is a political suicide.
No, it's not.
His base loves him so much.
It's unbelievable.
Yeah, but you're fucking up your base.
Like, those magna people in those red states are going to be the ones that are impacted the North car cutting Medicaid.
They got to feel it.
They got to feel it.
Oh, they will.
But the only thing is they pushed it back to where they really not going to feel it to, like,
2030.
Exactly.
And whoever's in power then is who's going to get the blame.
Think about how much money is going to trickle down before then, man.
You know, you're starting out.
Chris, you got to stop because nobody believes you just start.
I got buckets on my roof.
I got buckets on my roof for all this trickle-down money.
There we go.
Amazing.
There we go.
You're going to trickle down.
You're going to be able to shower in the shit.
I imagine.
Can you imagine Chris on his shingled roof in an all-black outfit and them socks
that have the big toe-sick and outfit?
Yeah.
Just catching trickle-down money.
To our point that we was talking about earlier, this pisses me off.
45 billion for ISIS detention system.
Y'all got 45 billion just to build a business.
Let me get a billion, bro.
Let me get a billion.
Why can't I get one billion?
Why can't the poor and disenfranchise get one-thony-
Oh, yeah, also that?
Why can't health care?
If you're cutting Medicaid but giving 45 billion the detention system?
Let me get a billion, man.
Put that money into the health care system and get everybody free fucking health care.
I can't get a billion.
$30 billion for ISIS arrest and deportation efforts?
We need every dollar of that, man.
You're telling me I can't get a billion, bro.
One billion.
One of them.
Not even more than one.
By the way, you're going to need it the way the country is going.
No, he's not.
He got a tax cut.
He's good.
Yeah, but it's not.
Oh, I got a tax cut?
Yeah.
How much do I get?
Well, it's continuations of the current one.
I'm going to tell you right now, it's not going to be fun living in a country.
Oh, my bad.
Where everybody knows you got it.
and they don't.
True.
But we don't, like, remember I said this,
it's not going to be fun living in a country
where everybody knows you got it
and they don't.
I think about my people in L.A.
were during the wildfires.
There was a community.
I'm not going to say the community name,
but it's a lot of wealthy people there.
They hired private security
just to be in their area
to keep people from running up
in the houses and looting and all types.
They hired private water, too.
You see what Duvall doing in Camp Duvall?
Yeah.
The motherfucker has built his.
some shit to get the fuck away from everybody.
One way in, one way out on Camp DuVos.
And it's going to, I'm telling you, it's really going to come to that, man.
It's going to really come to that.
But to what Chris was saying, like, how many times are they going to try this play of the trickle-down
economics and it never helps the economy?
Like, they try this thing all the time and it never helps.
Why do we keep falling for the same play?
To Chris's point earlier, we just need something different.
Like, this shit that we're doing is not working.
But the funny thing is we have all the resources to make it.
work. People just don't give a fuck about the poor. It's not people. It's politicians.
No, it ain't just politicians. It's people. No. When the last time you gave somebody some money to a
homeless, no, I'm saying, actually, I do when I have money on me. I just, you don't have money.
I swear to God, I swear, I'm not even cap. Let's just think about how long did you walk did you walk
if you walk did you walk down. They don't give a flying fuck. They don't got cash yet. You see the
mentally ill guy with no shirt on, bedfoot screaming like Kanye on the train. And you're like,
oh shit. Don't you try to get away from them. Nobody.
is trying to assist those individuals.
I'm an ambassador for the food bank.
I'll be at the food.
You can catch me in a couple weeks
in the food bank, you know,
handing out food, you know, making donations.
Like, I tried to do my part
when it comes to stuff like that.
Most people don't give a fuck about the poor, yo.
Yeah, but the majority, both parties
were against this bill, and they still voted through.
I don't believe that.
If you're against something, you vote against it.
No.
I don't care what your language is.
You can tell me anything.
That vote proves what you're for.
tell me you're against the bill if you voted for it. I don't believe none of those Republicans.
None of them. Yeah, but Trump is like if you don't vote for it, I'm in a primary you.
So then that's life. Stop being pussy. I agree. Go, okay, you've got a primary. All right,
run a better campaign so someone can't primary. Why aren't they prime Aaron Bernie?
Is that simple? You can spend all the money you want up there in Vermont. You're not going to get them out of here.
That's easier. Yeah, they are pussy. Yeah, so we got to call them pussy. Simple as that.
It's that simple.
Ted Cruz, pussy.
It was that one Republican who was like, I'm not voting for this shit.
And then he said, I'm not running again because he knows he's going to get front.
Oh, North Carolina.
Yeah.
It was a couple of them.
No, run again.
Run again and prove that you cannot vote for it.
Run again and win.
And then other people have the courage to do that.
I vote against it and retired.
That's what he did.
Be a hero.
That's what he did.
He literally said, oh, I'm not going to run again because I can't vote for this bill.
Damn.
That's crazy.
I think I did see that.
Tiller?
Yeah, Tiller.
Yeah.
I thought it was fucking, um, Diller.
Come on.
You know, you was away for a while.
It was okay.
Let's face some.
I said, filler.
I thought it was filler.
Guys, thanks again to Sodomai.
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I almost got it.
I almost got it.
That happened.
Church announcement shows.
First of all, congratulations.
Got cast in Street Fighter.
Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
You're playing, what's the character you're playing?
Dan Hibiki.
Dan Hibiki.
So he came out in a later game in Street Fighter Alpha, but he's fire.
Basically what happened was there was a game that ripped off Street Fighter.
So they made this character to make fun of that game.
So the character is shitty.
Like his hadukin doesn't really go far.
He barely jumps up on the Shoryukin, the uppercut shit.
Like he's a comical character that they made.
He's in a pink guy.
So he's kind of been like this funny character.
So it's perfect cast.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm not playing like everybody's like, yo, you got to bulk up and get crazy for the movies.
He's like, no, no, no.
Like he's funny.
Like he's supposed to be, he's like arrogant without being good.
I don't know why they would cast me.
I saw Esquire.
It sounds like typecasting.
Esquire says, well, you are good, though.
That's not typecaster.
But Esquire says the cast is so damn weird
that it just might work.
I look at the cast and I'm like, you got Jason Momoa,
you got Cody Rose, you got Roman Range,
you got 50 Cent, you got Andrew Shost.
That shit sounds like a hit to me.
That's cool.
Like, what the fuck?
I think that was their way of complimenting it.
Like, there were so many obscure different people from all right.
I'm hyped.
I just got to be on Australia for six fucking weeks
or two months, so it's a little annoying.
You don't think it's a little annoying.
This is what's weird to me.
Yeah.
Esquire looks at Street Fighter.
Yeah.
It's fucking monsters and, you know what I'm saying?
Like, the characters in Street Fighter are weird.
Yes.
How is casting regular humans weird for a cast of characters?
Yeah, that's, I don't know.
You know what I'm saying?
How are y'all weirder?
I think they're saying it's eclectic.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, who's saying Blanco?
Oh, that's Mamma.
How was Mamoa playing Blanca weird?
Blanca was never thought of his handsome.
Now all of a sudden, Blanca's a fucking sex symbol.
Yo, 50-centives ball rock, fire.
That makes sense to me.
You know what I mean?
I can't wait to watch it.
What else?
What other church announcements you got?
I want to shout out Mandy and Weezy.
Yes.
No holes barred.
I saw you on their pod.
I did do their pod.
Yeah.
Oh, no, they did bring idiots.
They did idiots last week.
They did breakfast clip.
I saw you guys in a studio.
That's when you was gone.
We did idiots.
Oh, but it was at WTO, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, okay, yeah.
You know, man, D.N.
Weas, I was on the beach in Anguilla.
I was at Tasties, Beach Shack in Anguilla,
sleuth everybody at Tasties.
I'm three, four, you know, rum punches in.
And, you know, I never have my phone on me,
but it was in my wife's bag.
And something told me to get my phone.
And I just grabbed, I picked up my phone in the middle of conversation,
and I go, oh, shit.
And they're like, what?
I'm like, man, D.N.
Weezy made the New York.
times bestsellers.
No way.
Yes.
Let's go.
You get you at number seven
in the advice column.
You tell how tough the advice column is.
Mel Robbins' Letting Theory is number one.
Mel's selling,
I've never seen no one.
In my lifetime, I've never seen no.
The Bible's the last book I've seen sell like the Letton Theory.
Right?
Fucking atomic habits, which has been out forever.
Forever.
Was number two.
And they're number seven in the advice column for No Holds Barred.
Get after it, girls.
A dual manifesto of sexual, sexual,
exploration and power. The reason that means so much to me, I mean, number one, it's on my
book and print Blackfield's publishing. But Mandy and Weezy, they didn't do any so-called
mainstream press. They have just a cool audience. No late night shows, no daytime shows, none of the
talk shows. They did breakfast club. Everything else was just the power of podcast, the power of
the horror hive. And the whole hive showed up and they debuted at number seven with no
holds barred. So, uh, salute the Mandy and Weasy, New York Times bestselling authors. I still to this
day, don't know how people make the New York Times bestsellers list, Chris. I have no fucking idea.
That's why when it happens, it's like, oh shit. And that's why when it happens, you are a New York
Times bestseller forever. Ever. Forever. Because it's not just based on sales. We, do you know what
it is, Chris? I still don't. Nobody fucking knows how you make the New York Times bestsellers list. You can
sell a shitload of books and not make the list.
Oh, really?
Bro, I have no idea what it is.
I really don't.
But Mandy and Weezy made it, so salute to them.
And also, I want to tell y'all, I will be, this probably will come out tomorrow, maybe,
but I'll be at Midtown Comics tomorrow signing copies of my new comic.
Oh, shit.
Illuminati.
And we have the graphic novels out there.
Who's his white girl?
Well, that's a variant cover.
That's the DMX Flesh and My Flesh, Blood, and My Blood, Hip, and.
Paparian cover, but this...
Who's the white girl?
What's the character's name?
The white girl, the star.
Lily.
She's not white?
She looked like Nikki Minot.
She's a minority, at least.
Bynority, yes.
You got some fat jugs.
Man, shut up.
She looks to Dennis.
Salute to my guy, Dennis Colwyn, man.
He'll be with me tomorrow.
He drew that?
He drew the...
That guy's horny.
That guy's a horny.
In-cell.
Sal looked at Dennis Colan.
You, man, this guy has not seen pussy in decades.
Let me tell you,
put it there.
Not with all due respect, with all due respect,
you got to see,
you got to go by this guys
because this is perfect masturbation.
Look at it.
I am,
let me tell you what I'm doing.
I'm going to tell you what we did that was good.
We did a Kickstarter for them.
And the Kickstarter did very,
the Kickstarter did very well.
Oh my God.
So a lot of people pre-ordered this
before it came out.
I can't show this.
I can't show this.
You can't show them.
You can't show it.
You can't show it.
You can't show it.
You can't show it.
You can't show it.
You can't show them.
It was the cartoon?
No,
No, you can because they're perfectly covered,
but you know how titty's usually fold into themselves
when the girls laying on her back?
Yeah.
These titty's sitting up proper.
Man, if you're gonna create T.
Wow.
Draw the perfect pair of tits.
Holy shit.
Midtown comics, I'll beat at a-
Oh my God!
What?
What?
Look at hers.
That's the same person, crazy.
This may or may not be based on a true story.
Oh.
Wait, but he drew this?
Yes, he did.
Oh my God.
And listen, this is better.
I'm not gonna say it's better than the Didy Trial.
because, but I will say
it may or may not be based on a true story.
So what story may or may it not be based?
Any story you've ever heard about the
Illuminati in the industry ever,
especially things surrounding the black Illuminati.
Got it.
So it may or may not be based on the truth story.
The Midtown Comics 5-Py.
Oh, shit.
Go to your local comic bookstores,
pick up Illuminati.
Oh, she's getting pipe.
So basically based on your life.
I'm not in the Illamini.
Yes, you are.
Why do y' y'all want me to be in the Luminati?
I know who you are.
I'm also talking about Illuminati when we got fat jugs.
Y'all want me to be a, what they call it, a bull so bad?
What's that?
What they call it?
A bull, a young bull.
You could have called it.
Oh, boule.
Boole, boule.
That's what it is.
What's a boule?
I don't fucking.
That's the black aluminum.
That's Charlemagne's in that he's pretending not to know the name of it.
I mean, that's the first rule of bouleigh.
This girl.
Listen, things we miss while we're out.
Dennis.
Dennis is a beast.
Dennis Cohen.
Dennis Cohen.
It's Luther Dennis Cohen.
I need to get inside his brain.
He'll be at Midtown Comics with me tomorrow.
Come highlight him.
No, but just to think of tits like that.
Just to have in your head,
like my brain couldn't even think of tits that perfect.
I need to, I need to, oh my God.
Hey, available in your local comic book store.
Y'all got to get this just for the spank.
Aluminati Volume 1.
You got to get this for the spank,
bare minimum for the spank.
Just peel through it for the spank.
And then unfortunately, you come across that.
picture, make sure you stop the spank before you get a time.
That's so crazy.
I didn't know that was in there.
Yeah, that's in there.
I only read the digital copies.
This is my first one.
Oh, and then they let you do the pencil spank too.
The pencil spank is crazy because you got a feeling the color of yourself.
Because you might be a minority, exactly.
Yeah.
What if you like Sheehoek?
Color that thing green.
Color it green.
Wonk, won't turn it white.
Listen, things we miss while we were away, the Diddy Verdict.
Oh, they got feet too.
Look at the, look, they know what I like.
Because episode two or book two that's coming out.
Well, that's Ice Cube Death Certificate cover.
We got hip-hop barian covers.
This is the original cover.
Is that a man's feet or a woman's feet?
That's a woman.
This is the original cover.
Right?
It's stupid.
You got tics on the original cover, too.
They'll see, look, right there.
Let me see those.
That's the hard cover.
I love it.
Here it is.
Go pick up Illuminati, man.
Yo, Dennis Cohen, you could drive.
draw some tits, man.
That's a talent,
that is a talent.
Not many people could draw tits like you.
That is talent.
Shut up, man.
I'm telling y'all, if y'all, if you're honestly,
I mean this sincerely, you're crazy if you don't get this for a bare minimum to spank.
This is elite.
Listen, it may or may not be based on real tinnies.
Okay.
So make sure you pick it up.
Wait, me, is this all the books in one?
So this is all the different.
That's the graphic novel.
Yes, yes, yes.
So it's all them.
If you,
if you ordered on the Kickstarter,
yes.
So you get the whole basically first collection?
Yes,
absolutely.
Y'all,
I think that we need to like sit back
for one second
and just have like a full circle moment here
because Charlotte made a God
he doesn't like to celebrate himself,
but I would just like to say
that he has been a comic book nerd
for as long as I've known him.
My whole life.
I remember when he first did,
remember when you first did the collaboration with Marvel?
You remember that?
That was like,
he was so excited,
It's so giddy.
Like, think about this.
We do things in our life that are like these big achievements.
Yes, you have nationally or internationally a syndicated show and all these other things that are very exciting.
But when you get to fulfill childhood, not even dreams.
Like, I don't even know if you dream of being a comic book proprietor as a kid.
But when you get to do those comic book, sorry, those childhood aspirations, that's fucking cool.
When I was a kid, I used to literally take comic book characters and make them black.
And now, and now.
I would take Captain America and be like Captain Africa.
I would make Wolverine black.
Like I would do that all the time.
And then I discovered black superheroes that I loved.
But I mean, I just love comic books, period.
And it's just like, yeah, to be actually in a position salute to AWA studios to where we're actually making comic books.
You're right.
Let's go.
I'm living my dream.
Let's go.
I only stay in my lane.
I like to read books, so I got a book in print.
I love podcast and I got a podcast that work.
I love comic books.
so I would create comic books
and we just take all this IP
and then turn them into films later
in TV shows.
Hey, salute.
I think that's,
we got to give you a plaza there.
I think that's very cool.
Because I know how much this means to you.
Means is quick.
I know how cool this is.
It doesn't mean a lot, though.
It's an internet like, oh shit,
like I'm going to be at Midtown Comics.
When I used to be working with Wendy,
I used to walk, come from Penn Station
and then before work, walk the Midtown Comics
just because it's such a legendary thing
in New York City.
you've had like five of your own TV shows.
You're bragging right now that you get to go to Midtown Comics, a tiny little
barely air-conditioned comic store.
I love it.
But it's like the shit that means a lot to you as a kid will never be replaced.
Never.
Never.
Never.
They're like, yo, it's gonna be.
You're almost sold out for tomorrow.
Like, I should be.
It's 150 people.
But that's a lot of people buying fucking comic books.
You know what I mean?
To be in the comic book stores.
That shit is funny.
dude. Salute the Midtown comics. Diddy Verdict, what'd you think?
Yo, we owe him an apology, man. No, we don't.
Wait, what? I thought we owe him an apology. No, we don't. What do you do?
Have you heard the conspiracy around this, my boy?
Oh, talk to me. Some people say that... He had a tape on somebody powerful.
Well, what if, you know, his boy was Clive Davis, right? Doesn't Clive Davis help him start bad boy records?
Yeah, back in the day, yep.
Clive Davis is some people would say is an informant.
You know, he got hemmed up for taxes like three times, never did any jail time, never really any punishments.
Really?
Yep.
You haven't heard this?
No, I never heard of.
So some people might say he learned a game from Clive and that he's been a government informant this whole time.
And that's why they put James Comey's daughter as the special prosecutor.
James Comey was the guy who ran the FBI.
So they put this, you know, his daughter in there because she's part of the whole system.
She goes out there, throws the case, and then Diddy gets off.
that's what's...
Well, then why would they bring it in the first place?
Say again?
Why would they bring it in the first place?
Bring what?
The case against it?
Because you got to close it.
He's still facing 20 years.
You got to close it.
Basically, you have an asset, you know, so you've got to let your asset get back out.
But he's still facing 20 years.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Still facing 20 years.
And the prosecution is like, we want him to get the maximum sentence.
It's not saying that he will.
They dropped the charges.
No, they didn't.
They dropped three of them.
He found guilty on two.
Yeah, but they, no, that they dropped a few even before it.
And then they did an interesting thing.
We were talking to a guy in Nick Brian.
They dropped the biggest charges.
Yeah.
Rico, he'd have did life.
And I forgot the other two charges he would have did like a lot of time.
The other two that he got the transportation, which was probably the most obvious one,
those I think are like 10 years apiece maximum.
Right.
But they're saying that in some circumstances he could just get time served.
I don't believe that.
Do you think he's actually going to do the 20?
I think we'll learn a lot when we see how long he actually does.
If they go time served, then he's a government informant.
If they don't go time,
served and they put him for 20, then they actually clipped him and they handled them.
I think it says something that the judge didn't give him bond, even after him being found
not guilty on three charges, the fact that they're keeping him in there until October 3rd,
which is a citizen date.
I think that says a lot.
But you used the word just now, Schultz, and that word was learned.
Ooh.
What have people learned from this ditty situation?
Because everything you just said, Schultz could be true.
I don't freak out.
Allegedly.
Allegedly, right?
It could be true.
But I hear people saying things like,
the feds overcharged Diddy? Do I believe that? Yeah. You know, do I believe that they even got it right in court? I do. Even though I thought the prosecution in the beginning did a very good job presenting their case. I thought it was going to be very hard. And I said this on the podcast. It was going to be very hard to convince a jury that Diddy is anything more than a violent freak. Right? But I want to ask you all one simple question. Can you shake me down if I don't give you nothing to shake?
If you are somebody like, Dedy, a black billionaire,
and you know you're probably targeted every day,
shouldn't you be disciplined?
Shouldn't you be focused?
Shouldn't there be things that you shouldn't be involving yourself in
when you're on that level?
Sure.
Feds could overcharge you, but I gave you something to charge me with.
So what I would say to that is that,
I think Tucker and Saga were having a conversation about this,
and they were talking about R like CIA
and how people operate with impunity.
When you're given the invisibility cloak,
do you think that you would operate in society
the exact same way that you operate now?
You said the invisibility?
Yes.
Who had the invisibility?
Let's say one had.
You had it.
Like our behavior would be a little different
knowing we could never get caught.
Depends, though.
Well, because when you're,
let's be honest, you're a powerful white person,
white man, invisibility cloak works a little bit better.
But when you're a powerful black doing there like, did he?
Yeah.
It's more like peekaboo.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, yeah, we see you.
So, yes, so maybe there's limitations.
But what I'm saying is that like in the way that Whitey Bulger, right, who is a government
informant for decades, you know, like he still did all his fuck shit because he knew that
he was an informant so the government was going to bail him out, right?
So they could have access to whatever information they wanted.
If you are an informant and you are working for.
the feds, you operate with impunity because you're like, yo, the feds are going to bail me out
because I'm more valuable to them on the street. And I think that like, not to bring it back
to the Epstein thing, but there is a version of this Epstein thing where it's like, let's say,
for example, the current administration, the current DOJ, Trump, whatever, this is like the
best case scenario. Let's say they got access. Actually, I don't even believe it, what I'm about
to say. I don't even believe what I'm not saying. I think y'all give these entertainers too
much power. Then he was not a government informant. Then he was a freaky-ass billionaire who
let power get to him to make him think he was invincible. Right. Not invisible, invincible. And I mean
this. And I want us to learn from this in the fact that when you get in these positions of power,
you have to move a hundred times better than everybody else. But the people that are
have the psychotic need for that power,
oftentimes have the type of disposition
that does not allow them to move in that way.
You can't turn it off.
Well, guess what?
Your talent will take you
where your character can't sustain you.
Your character will take you where your talent can't sustain you.
No, your talent will take you
where your character can't sustain it.
Ah.
So you can get to a certain level like he did for 30-plus years.
But if you are that type of person
who has,
like drugs, who, you know, is violent towards women,
all of that shit will come back to catch you.
Like, you cannot run from yourself.
We're going to see.
He might get time served, and he's back on the streets doing that same fuck shit.
But listen to what you just said.
Sure.
He'll never be the same Diddy again.
Can you, can Diddy live being on Delta First Class?
Oh.
He's not going to be the same Diddy again.
be a MAGA preacher is my prediction.
A MAGA preacher? That's his play.
A mega preacher.
No, mega. No, MAGA.
He's going to go far right.
He's going to have a religious conversion, which wipes away your sins, because that's how it works,
a foreign again Christianity.
And then that...
By the way, I believe in that, though. I believe in him, you know, getting spiritual,
getting into religion. We're not God. Only God can judge. I believe in, you know,
forgiveness. I do believe in that. But to me, that's what he should be focused on.
If you do get out, if you get time served or whatever, you shouldn't be focusing on.
Nothing but doing the work on yourself.
Spiritually, mentally, mentally, and I even hate when people say things like, oh, you know, well, white men get to get away with that shit.
Did he ain't white?
Yeah, but look at Weinstein.
Weinstein didn't get away with it.
Wine, that's what I'm point.
So if they're doing that.
What white guys are getting away with?
If Weinstein is in prison, if Epstein had to kill himself, if all of this shit is happening now in 2025, what the fuck makes you say?
He didn't kill himself.
I'm tired of this, fuck it.
Like, I don't even want to normalize that.
He didn't.
He didn't kill himself.
I don't know what the fuck happen.
But that they're going to make us normalize that shit.
They're just going to keep talking about it.
It's like he didn't fucking kill himself.
Well, we know.
You really think Cash Patel would say that if it wasn't true.
I have a hard time.
No, serious.
Epstein is dead.
That we know.
Cashtel, man, come on.
Epstein is dead.
Do we?
You don't think he's dead?
I mean, there was pictures that even showed the person that they were carrying out.
They had different ears and all that size.
I'm just saying there's a lot of it.
video of his body being removed.
I thought they said there was a video.
I thought casting on Joe Rogan there was a video.
The whole video that came out, you don't see the body coming up.
Why would they cut it off before that happened?
That motherfucker probably ain't even dead.
That's what I'm saying.
Doing his fuck shit.
Just Lane is in the fucking prison in the Vermont, whatever.
I think that's impossible in 2025.
I think everybody, when they hear their name trending somewhere, they want to say something.
Especially if everybody's calling you a fucking pedophile creep, you want to send a tweet from it.
You think he's on Mars?
If I'm on Mars, I'll let a tweet fly.
He's not on Mars, bro.
You don't think so?
He's at some rich compound in Colorado.
I think he's dead.
My point is, he ain't Diddy, and Diddy ain't Epstein.
Diddy has never been as powerful as Epstein.
I don't get what y'all say.
I don't get how much money he had.
I don't get how much videos he was in.
I don't get how much the rock he sold.
He never was as powerful as Epstein,
and he never had to access that Epstein had.
Epstein was so powerful, they had to kill him.
Epstein wasn't powerful, though.
How not?
Epstein's handlers were powerful.
He was just a tool.
Why they not dead?
Because they're the ones telling everybody that this was nothing, there was no blackmail.
Just Epstein and Jolaine Maxwell don't only people?
They're just tools.
Like, Epstein and Jislein are tools.
They're going to find some other tools.
You need a freak.
You need a freak like him to do these horrible things,
and you need a freak like her to do these horrible.
So you think it was just more than just those two?
Of course.
They already know there was another, what was it, Kellan Brown or something?
There was like another woman.
So why are they saying they're not bringing charges against nobody else?
They say there's no evidence.
Because they're real people with power, Charlotte.
Why do you think?
What is the name of your fucking comic book again?
Illuminati.
I'm witching.
But why just those two?
If there's a bunch of other handlers, why not take all in them?
You need a fall guy and they got the fall guy.
Arty might have killed him.
Or they're dead or they killed.
Yeah, we don't even know who they are.
Epstein's a convicted pedophile, right?
Yes.
A convicted pedophile.
And Bill Gates,
is going to his apartment. In what world does Bill Gates, the most powerful person in tech,
need anything from Epstein in his own apartment? Have you ever seen Bill Gates walk in Did he's
mansions? Has he? No, that's my point. Epstein had power and access. We don't know. Well, yeah,
you know, Epstein absolutely had power and access, but like Diddy had power and access to different people?
Not to that level. No, no, no, sure, sure, not to that level. But that doesn't mean that he's still not
guilty of the same thing.
I agree with your audience.
That's why my biggest thing with the ditty verdict is,
what are people going to learn from this?
You know what they said with Epstein?
They said the thousands of hours of child porn that they found
was just regular child porn on the internet.
It was not famous people.
Oh, he just like to watch it.
That's what they're saying.
They downloaded thousands of hours of just child porn.
That's what it was it.
Are we really supposed to believe that he kept thousands of hours of child porn
on a hard drive when he had his entire.
house wired professionally for audio and video.
What did he have it professionally wired for audio and video then, guys?
What was recording then?
Nothing?
Why do they record their freakoffs?
For blackmail purposes, I guess.
Once again, my whole biggest thing with the ditty situation is,
what are you going to learn from this?
Because everybody acts like it wasn't him and his poor choices that got him in this situation.
They can't jam you up like this if you don't give them no goddamn jam.
All right.
And another sad thing to learn is that women are probably not going to come forward because look what Cassie had to go through.
And he basically looked like he got off.
No, that's never going to stop women from coming forward.
What?
No, no.
All right.
By the way, the only reason they didn't believe Cassie, people didn't believe Cassie, because she got paid.
No, because she said in the text messages like, yo, you know, I'm always down for us.
That ain't it.
I promise you, if she hadn't got paid, she got $30 million from Puff allegedly.
10 million from this hotel.
You think this country don't give a fuck about the poor?
You know who they really don't give a fuck about?
The rich.
So they look at this situation and they're like,
I ain't you got peed on.
Somebody beat you up, but you came up 40 million.
I didn't watch the whole case.
All I've seen are the headlines
and I've seen the text that came out.
Cassie seemed very about that life
when it came to these freakoffs.
So the 50-50.
Like there's text messages where she actually was like,
you treat me like a rag doll.
I'm not a piece of meat.
somebody's child. There's text messages where she was like, yo, I don't want to do this. Like there's,
there are those, but nobody's going to pay that no attention because she got paid $14 million.
I promise you that is the reason why nobody is siding with her. No, I agree with that. But also for her,
if he gets time served, she just, she was already paid and now she let the public know all this
information about her sexual past that she didn't have to do. That she didn't have to do. And now
he's walking from it. And the jury did not. Nobody's going to come. No. No.
Nobody's going to come to her defense.
Nobody has empathy for her because the jury looked at her and said, you got $40 million.
We are broke.
We've been here for the free food.
And you know what I'm saying?
Most people would just chalk it up to the game for $40 million.
I'm telling you, that's how the jury looked at.
The jury's like, yo, you already got your prize.
You're good.
I promise you that's how the jury looked at.
I'm not saying this is how I look at it.
I'm saying this how the jury looked at it.
So to your point, I don't know what the fuck's going to happen with Diddy and his sentencing.
I don't know what's going to happen when he comes home.
but I know the only thing he should be thinking about
is getting his motherfucking son.
Also, like, a guy like Diddy,
who's, let's say, has been doing this for, you know, decades, right?
They don't pick people who are reluctant to do this stuff.
Like, they pick people who are down,
who are manipulatable,
who have went through horrible tragedies in their life,
and they're seeking some sort of community.
They take advantage of the people that are oppressed and disenfranchised.
Oh, somebody like Diddy does?
Yeah.
Okay, got me.
So, like, it's not surprising that this girl, Cassie,
seemed really down and excited to do these things
because she's living in this, like, reality
that he has created for her
where this is where she's getting his love.
And that's why they also prey on young girls.
They prey on people that have these sorts
of psychological conditions.
And most of them are young.
A hundred percent.
Young, fatherless.
What, you laugh at that, bro?
Why you laugh?
That's not funny.
I didn't laugh.
No, I don't know.
No, Alex.
We had a discussion on Flaggart,
and he did not sound like this.
That's all I'm saying.
What do you say?
How do you feel about love bombing?
Let's go on that.
What is love ball?
I don't believe in that shit.
I don't believe in that shit.
When you lie and manipulate a girl and you make her seem like this is more than what it is,
we can't lie?
We can't lie.
I thought we called that courting.
Oh, my.
Thank you.
That's not courting.
We should be able to lie.
Why can't we lie?
That's not courting?
Yo, we can't lie.
Oh, no, I didn't you lie.
What?
Why can't we lie?
Everybody.
No, no, no, this is a good discussion.
They can wear heels.
They can wear makeup.
get fake tinnies, they got push-up bras, they got all this shit, but we can't lie.
By the way, we got to be honest.
Yo, I can take this out of relationships and say you rarely meet the real person when you
first meet them.
A lot of times you're meeting the representative.
They're putting their best put forward, showing you the best version of themselves.
We're talking about love bombing when you like, hey, here's a gift, here's this trip,
oh, I love you, oh, I want to be with you, but meanwhile, you're just using them for sex and
nothing else.
And then you just leave them out to dry because you're saying.
So a transactional relationship?
No, you're lying and manipulating
and making it and think that. You didn't say that. You said I'm
I'm going to tell you what I said on flagrant.
If a guy
takes you on a boat, he's
using your throat. Hell much. That is
what you should know for the rest
of your life. What if I like her? Say again?
I might like it. I always say it's not tricking if she's worth it.
But it's also not tricking if you got it. What if that's
just your lifestyle? If I'm a rich dude
and I go on yachts every weekend.
Yes, that's regular
like acts of hunting. If a guy likes, she's
about if you're lying to her.
So if you're just doing that stuff just the fuck?
We can't lie.
We can't lie.
About wanting to be with her.
We can't lie.
We can't lie.
What if I feel like that in the moment?
We can't lie.
Okay.
We can't lie?
I don't even know if it's a lie.
What if I feel like that in the moment?
So you know there was.
And then I'm winter for a while and I'm like,
she's kind of annoying.
The head ain't what I thought.
Can I tell you something?
Why this guy's full of shit?
I once saw him hit on a girl, right?
He stood on a step.
So he was six inches taller than what he was.
he was. And he'd have one foot hanging off this step and the other foot on this step while he hit
on this girl for like 30 minutes. This is years ago, years ago. 30 minutes, he's pretending to be
six inches taller with a step. That's a lot. You're a liar. She was 511. Let me ask for this.
Let me ask for this question. Yes. Hold on. That's what I'm saying. We should be able to lie.
Let me ask you this question. And then I got to go do this doctor's point. Is it better
to love bomb or to be on some, yo, when you go let me fuck shit? You. You're going to let me fuck shit.
you ain't you ain't taking her out on no dates you ain't taking her nowhere nice you ain't at least that's honest
yes that one's better so you would i would rather be i would rather be courted or love bomb or whatever
you call it no but but the girl feels like shit after the fact because she was thinking oh wow he
actually likes me no meanwhile you were just using her for some person and you're infantilizing women
women know what we want there's no woman that a guy invites her on a boat and then after
he has sex with her on the boat and doesn't call her and goes i had no
clue he was trying to fuck me.
Well, the Jane Doe in the case, she didn't know because she had multiple texts saying,
like, oh, you just treat me like a piece of meat.
I don't like this.
Do you realize we got a whole generation of women raised off Little Kim, Trina, Foxy Brown, right?
Cardi B., Nikki Monaghan.
Women are smart.
How do you know they're not having fun?
Yeah, but they, how you know they're like, yeah, this is what I want.
They tell us, they was telling us in the music, I want a guy to do all of this.
That's a thing.
And I'm going to get my pussy eight and I'm going to get some money and he out.
But they say what their intention is.
So that's what makes it.
If everybody agrees to the situation is perfectly fast.
If guys said, well, they're, oh, I love you and I want to be with you, but then you're
really just using her for a throat and then nothing else.
Guys, ladies, ladies, ladies, you should know if a guy has only spoken to you for five minutes
and invites you on his boat.
He knows nothing about you besides you look good.
So the only thing he could want is your body.
If you guys are talking for months, right?
If you're talking for months, of course, I think the nicer thing the guy does for your
first date, the less he's interested in getting to know you, the more he's trying to make you feel
guilty, so you give him some pussy.
I disagree with that.
The reason I disagree with that show...
That's what I tell my daughter.
If a guy's taking you on a trip...
Your daughter's not even one!
I got to tell her now.
If a guy's taking you on a trip, he's taking you on a boat, he's taking you in a helicopter
ride, he's flying you to fucking Portugal.
That guy is after one thing.
If a guy asks you to go to a cafe and have a coffee and get to know each other, he wants to
wants to get to know you for you.
But what if that's my lifestyle?
Exactly.
What if my lifestyle is, hey, you're still going to get burnt.
But listen, I'm at a, I hope not.
If that's, the woman's going to get me.
If that's, not talking to you no more if you burn me.
If that's, not that girl.
Why don't I talk to you anymore if you get me gone and ready?
If that's your lifestyle, you're 100% using her for pussy.
Because guys who got that lifestyle are not out there just trying to meet a girl and
be befrient her and have a fucking great time.
Like, you got to be on defense.
Let's move on.
Yes.
I'm not, let's pay some bills and do some asking idiots.
You guys are crazy.
Okay.
I don't think love bombing is that bad of a thing.
I get what you're,
I get what both of you all are saying.
Ozzie Unruly says,
if you were born again,
would you rather be raised by teen parents,
our mid-30s, early 40 gay men?
Ozzie Unruly, you are truly a brilliant idiot.
We have missed you.
How we have missed our brilliant idiot listeners.
Fantastic question.
You are born again.
Would you rather be raised by teen parents
are mid-30s, early 40 gay men.
Teen parents is brutal, man.
That is a hard, hard upbringing.
You're dealing with no money.
You're dealing with, like, emotional instability,
because these are people that are still learning how to be adults.
That is brutal.
Gay men in their 30s or 40s are probably rich as fuck, right?
But at the same time, you know,
they probably both got side dudes that they're sucking off
because, you know, gay dudes don't really believe in monogyn.
me. So that's going to be a warped perspective.
It's, you know, this is a
fucking great question.
The reason is a great question is because
he's not saying anything
is like wrong with the teen parents
or the mid-30s, early 40th century. He's just giving
us identity. You know what I'm saying?
Me personally, I probably
would go with teen parents.
Reason why? Because
kids are cruel.
Kids are cruel, man.
They are cruel, man. Two daddy. You don't
want to be the two-daddy kid, two-daddy Shotsie, two-daddy Charlotte, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
In 2025.
But the, but the illiteration, but the, but think about the alliteration with father.
Bothering fragomagged.
You, you know what I'm saying?
Like, you, oh.
Oh.
It's tough, bro.
Yeah, that's a tough one, man.
There's a lot of teen moms that have a lot of success stories.
I'm sure that there's a lot of gay men couples that have success stories, too.
I'm just speaking from a, a strictly perspective.
of being a young person growing up, it would be easier to have teen parents.
I think he's right.
The bullying is going to be, I agree with what you're saying, Chris, is right now everybody's
gay, so it's pretty normal.
But there is a version of it where you will deal with some serious stuff, you know.
I'm trying to think of the...
Kids are cruel that we stand stuff like you came out of your daddy's butt.
I'm serious, man.
You know, I'm telling you.
Ew, Charlotte smells.
You know what I mean?
You know what?
Calling you little shitstein.
Yeah, dude.
Like, shorty shitstain.
Like, it'll be a lot.
It'd be a lot.
Just walking in on your parents, 69 and.
Crazy.
Can you do that?
Oh, yeah, you can do it.
Yes, Lego.
That'd be kind of fire, though.
Whoa.
Yo.
He said Lego.
Yo.
He said Lego.
Tetris.
You both bite down, you're not going nowhere.
Oh my God.
The best underscore Jesus says, do y'all think this?
What?
I didn't know what there.
Palantir.
You guys knew.
This Palantir database is going to end up taking us out when we're bad.
So basically, the government gave Palantir the, I guess, ability to create profiles on
every American citizen.
I could be bastardizing this, but like...
Almost like minority apart.
Yeah.
So, and then the idea is that there would be one government database that has all the
information on all American citizens.
And then if they wanted, they could use it, you know, for nefarious purposes.
He's trying to figure out how Palantir can be a dick joke.
No, no.
I'm Googling it because I refuse to ask the room.
Okay?
But I feel like this is a plant.
No, it's a real.
I feel like y'all planted this motherfucking joke.
Let me see what the fuck.
I don't see this shit nowhere.
Palantir.
P-A-L-A-N-T-I-R.
P-A-N-T-I-R.
Okay.
Okay, Palantir Technologies.
Yes.
Okay.
All right.
Just make it.
Leomar underscore 22889 says,
what y'all think about Drake's new song?
That's out more of a question for See the God.
I think it's a cool record.
Like, Drake can rap.
Drake can make music.
We know that.
I just don't want Drake to, you know,
It's a lot of, it's a few things.
I don't want Drake to end up being the artist that can't get over his L.
And so he's constantly talking about his L, constantly talking about how people heard him.
You lost the rap battle, keep it moving.
But the song is fire.
It's cool.
It's hard to say it's fire because it's just Drake.
Like it's cool.
It's a cool record.
Like I don't, it wasn't like fire to me.
Like, oh shit.
Like it was just a cool record.
That Tiffany Blue bar was dope.
I don't understand why he's in the video surrounded by guns.
That shit was.
silly to me. It's like you lost the rap battle,
now you want to be fucking soup with us.
You're also from Canada. Like, we got to
stop it with the, you know,
the Canadian, everybody got guns shit. I'm not saying
that there aren't people with guns in Canada.
Okay. Say again? He's in Texas.
He bought it. I don't okay. He's
still a Canadian chopper slinger.
All right. Fair enough. A Toronto
trigger puller. All right. You want me to
believe it's all in Clips in the six?
Okay. He's like, no.
I just don't like, come on.
You don't want to see the super thug shit. You just want to see the
bars.
Just rap.
Yo, by the way, if I was, Drake, I would just lean into the women.
I wouldn't be talking about this battle.
You know what, this song would have really hit?
This song would have really hit if we hadn't heard nothing from Drake for the past two years.
And then he just dropped.
I understand the point of the record.
He's saying, you know, what did I miss?
Like, how did I miss all of these people that was really against me?
But it would have hit even harder.
If you hadn't said shit for two and a half years, no loss, however long it's been a year and some change.
No lawsuits, no nothing.
And you're like, what did I miss?
I'm not living my life.
Yeah, I'm not worried about nothing.
Like you said, he should just focus on the women because his best song that performed since the battle was Nokia.
Nokia.
This was all about women's, though.
Focus on the women, bro.
Like, all of that, I don't care about how you don't fuck with LeBron anymore or whatever.
It is.
All the ballplayers that did you dirty.
You're the idiot for thinking that all of these industry people was your friend to begin, motherfucking with.
This is a huge point right here.
We got to stop.
We got to realize that, like, especially in this industry, there are people that are friends with you.
They don't even know that they're friends with you because it makes them look good.
They're, you know what I'm saying?
Like, you meet these people who are like, they really think that they build relationships,
but the only reason for the relationship is because it helps them further their career.
And the second you stop furthering their career, they go, oh, actually, I don't really fuck
with that person that much.
So I think I like the idea of what did I miss because he's going, yeah, I thought we were
really home.
He's, I guess I was only a conduit to your dreams and success.
That must be really frustrating to deal with that rejection.
But that is the nature of most industry relationships.
If all your friends are just industry people, you ain't really got friends, bro.
Man, yo, there's a guy.
I'm not going to say his name, but I tell him about another person all the time.
Because he's a white person who got a bunch of black friends, but they're all industry.
And I'm like, who's his normal black friend?
Who's the black friend he grew up with?
Leave Neil alone, bro.
It ain't Neil.
No, great.
I love Neil.
I go to back to me.
I love Neil too.
This ain't, it's like this guy, he's not even in front of the camera.
But my point is like, where's your regular black friend?
I can look, I can look, I know Andrew's black friends he grew up with.
You know what I mean?
Like, they're around.
Like, who's your regular black homie?
I was telling, I was telling, Alex says, like, we had a party out in Hamptons of July 4th at our place, right?
And it wasn't an industry event.
It was people, some of it, their industry, some that we've been friends with for fucking two decades.
three decades, right?
It is just a party of friends.
Everybody there knows each other.
There are a few people that might be a little bit derivative,
but it was an actual party with friends.
That's what a friend party looked like.
The White Party out of the Hamptons is an industry event
where people pretend to be friends.
Some of them actually are friends,
but a lot of them are there to be photographed.
If all of the things you go to are these industry events,
that's not really friendship.
It's not real.
By the way, that's why you don't see me at them.
You said this early.
Yes.
You say you could be a man of the people, the man of the industry, you cannot be both.
And by the way, even if you, you know, do grow your own industry, which we have done,
we all came up together.
You know what I'm saying?
Y'all have watched this in real time.
You can pinpoint me and Duval.
You can pinpoint me in Shultz.
You're like, oh, you can pinpoint me and a Pete Davidson.
You've watched us all grow and evolve to be what it is.
We've been over the last, shit, almost 20 years.
Before any of us really had.
that much to offer each other.
Not to say that we weren't doing certain things
with our career, which could obviously help.
Obviously doing the podcast with you jumpstarted
my career like you gave me everything.
But there's, it's not like
oh my God, this thing
happened and I am,
I need to be around this person
or else nothing will happen for me.
And there are a lot of those types of relationships.
And you know they're phony because when you talk to people
when other people are not around,
they're shitting on their friends.
Man.
So I'm talking to you.
You should have.
on your friend, I'm like, well, what do you say about me when I'm not here?
Man. Like, the number one way to know that you're with someone who ain't shit is if he shits on
his friends to you.
Yo, I'll never forget.
Now, I've told the story before when Kanye called me, wanting me to shit on Pete.
And I'm like, you do realize that's my friend.
I don't care who you are in culture.
I don't care what you mean to the industry.
My friends mean more to me than that.
When I did my, I did an interview with Rolling Stone.
and they asked me about Andrew.
You can look it up as an interview.
Like, how y'all going to tell me about somebody
that I know?
Like, how are you going to, you can't make me believe something
about somebody that I actually know?
And you know that they don't know.
You know what I mean?
You're going to tell me about my friend.
You're going to tell me about my friend
that I've known for all of these years.
Like, that don't even make no logical sense to me.
But you know what?
when the industry went to Drake to this,
to bring it back to Drake,
when something happens in culture
where now you might be the bad guy
or having a bad week.
We ain't getting those phone calls anymore, bro.
Absolutely.
This is what happened.
Yes, they all let the pop out
because those were never your real partners.
Those were never your real friends.
I saw people comments and people I thought
like, I'm very delicate with these guys.
I'm not the type of dude that calls every bit of my friend.
But I'll be at colleagues and that kind of shit.
But like I saw people that I was
college and I was cool with when the whole Kendra shit was popping, like commenting on videos,
and what I tell you?
Like, like, liking that.
You said the most fire shit.
Go, go, go, go.
I said, I told them, I said, pay attention to all of the people that have something to say
about you now because they've been hating.
The whole time.
The whole time.
They've been waiting.
It's the most beautiful.
In a way, it's liberating because it's like, oh, I don't got to protect none of y'all
anymore.
Before, I was nice and I was protecting you because I thought that we were cool like that.
But I see all the videos.
And I see, I bump into some of these people.
Bro, I bump into some of these people in, like, in a neighborhood with my kid and my wife.
And they are so sweet, so kind, knowing.
Like, I know what they said.
I know what they were commenting.
I know what they were reposting.
And they're so fucking phony to your face.
And you don't even care.
Because you don't fuck.
It hasn't stopped nothing.
And because now I know your pussy.
That's right.
And you don't have a tattoo.
Drake had a LeBron tattoo.
No, he doesn't.
Yes.
Yeah.
I'm sure he's got it covered up by now.
Knowing him probably not.
But when the grass is cut, the snakes will show.
You can't do all of these.
I don't think Brian is a snake.
Brian ain't snake him.
You just jumped out the window acting like this was your friend.
You wanted to do the Lego piece.
Brian didn't want to do the Lego.
They all right each other's houses, like checking on each other's kids and shit like that.
Son, Drake was showing up to the high school basketball game.
You know how cool that is for a high school kid to have the biggest rapper in the world,
spend his time to go there?
Like, that is some cool shit.
And then to just go party with the dude calling a pedophile.
That's corny LeBron to me.
Because you could just not go.
But I'm brown.
If you really wanted to go that bad, you could be in the back.
Exactly.
You don't got to be front row going.
But you're LeBron James.
Everybody is your friend.
You know what I'm saying?
Everybody comes to Bronny's game.
They want to be in bronze orbit.
Drake just jumped out the window.
You did too much.
You got the fucking tattoo.
Yes, I agree with that.
But at the same time, like, just because everybody,
wants to be a friend doesn't give you license to be a bad friend.
Yeah.
That's true.
You could just stay out of it.
Let's end with this.
Soul Rack, VRJ says, what is the toughest part of being married?
What is the best advice to finding a partner in life?
Good way to end, man.
What is the toughest part of being married, Shulton?
What is the best advice to finding a partner in life?
Best advice having a partner in life is be honest with yourself and, like, what you want
and who you are.
because if you pretend to be something so that a girl will like you,
you will be miserable when you're with her because you're not being yourself.
And I think the best advice to a successful marriage is working on that shit constantly.
It's like figuring out marriage before you have a kid is hard.
Then you have a kid, you got to re-figure out the whole shit.
You know what I mean?
I imagine you have a second kid and third kid.
You got to refigure it out again.
and being willing to work on it
instead of just going,
oh, it's different now,
fuck all this shit, whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that's what I would say.
What is the best advice
to finding a partner in life?
Love bombing.
What is the toughest part?
What is the toughest part of being married
when the love bombs don't work anymore?
Okay, I keep dropping these love bombs now
and they don't work anymore.
So now, at 47 years old,
I got to be forced to be myself
and go to therapy and do actually,
do actual work on myself.
Hey, you know what's a good show on this topic is couples therapy?
I don't know if anybody's wife.
I've heard of this, yeah.
It's actually really compelling.
Listen, I really can't help anybody with that because I was blessed to find my partner very, very early.
I was blessed to find a soulmate and a best friend very, very early, and we've been riding, you know, and life just keeps getting better and better and better.
So the toughest thing about being married, honestly, man, I don't think there's anything really tough about it.
I really don't.
I think that when you have a partner that you love and, you know, you're really care for
and y'all really care for each other, y'all just figure things out and y'all kind of lighten each other's load.
Like marriage isn't tough, and both of y'all are playing your position the right way.
You know, you committed to being with this person for life.
So I don't know what, I really don't know what it means when they say it's tough.
Like, yeah, y'all might argue every now and then.
You might not like each other, but you just go in the room.
Figure it out.
That's great.
Committing to figuring it out.
Committing to figure it out.
You have made this commitment for your life.
The easy way is to just pull the ejection seat.
That's right.
The hard way, but the fruitful way, is the commitment to figuring out.
And I imagine, no, I can tell from my own experience, it's like it gives you a lot of confidence when you commit to figuring something out and then you make progress.
That's right.
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Thank you for listening.
Peace.
