The Brilliant Idiots - Big Little Lies

Episode Date: May 22, 2025

This week on the Brilliant Idiots Podcast, Charlamagne and Schulz recap their weekends, including Mel Robbins’ live show, and dive into everything from self-help culture and live podcasting to pare...nting struggles and the truth about making money in media. They get into the Diddy allegations, emotional abuse, and conspiracy talk around the Boule (aka the Black Illuminati), then pivot to sports—debating the face of the NBA, the Knicks, and the legacy of stars like Steph and MJ. Things wrap with a deep convo on politics, corruption, the housing crisis, and why so many people feel let down by the system. Real talk, wild takes, and plenty of laughs—don’t miss it. ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots Uncommon Favor - Dawn Staley Pre Order - https://a.co/d/4pLD1C3 No Holes Barred -Mandi B & Weezy WTF https://a.co/d/cGFDUoB The Wind on Her Tongue - Anita Kopacz https://a.co/d/fWDancH I Lived to Tell the Story: A Memoir of Love, Legacy, and Resilience - Tamika D. Mallory https://a.co/d/7DoCtWX Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks By Charlamagne Tha God https://a.co/d/gpFlOol Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" https://blackeffect.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yep, Charlamany guy. Andrew Shope. We all the brilliant idiots podcast back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Heather Kyle Walker. What's up, my man? How was your weekend, my brother? It was good. It was good.
Starting point is 00:00:11 What you do? Anything fun? Went out to the Hamptons, hung out with the baby, enjoyed life. Okay. Enjoyed dad life. I went to go see Mel Robbins on Friday. Oh, yeah. She was at the Beacon Theater.
Starting point is 00:00:23 Did you do the live thing with her? What you mean? Did you like, were you part of her show? No. Because you did a pod with her, right? I did do the pod with me. Mel, Mel, the homie, Mel don't need nobody.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Mel podcast. She's like the biggest female podcast on the planet, right? Shit, she's one of the biggest podcast is, period, on the planet at this point. Like, Mel's numbers are stupid. Mel, Mel's book has been out almost five months, and she's sold almost five million copies. What is, she's doing a quarter million books a week.
Starting point is 00:00:53 What is her angle? Self-help. Self-help. Motivation, you know, a person who, has, you know, went, went in debt. I think she was like, what, $800,000 in debt, bounced back at a very late age, you know, a 41, maybe, I think she was when she was in debt.
Starting point is 00:01:13 How'd she get back? Man, when you go to her special, if you read her books, what you see is she just started like, she really just had to get up out of this funk she was in. She was in a state of depression, and she was just laying in bed, and she said she saw this video of a rocket ship, and so she just decided to get out of her bed
Starting point is 00:01:29 and just go fucking do something. But she just started working, like she got back in the radio, and then that led to television. And, you know, she just kept hustling. She just kept fucking working. Like, that's the thing, right? Positive energy activates constant elevation. Like, you can't just sit around and complain and, you know, say, oh, woe was me. The sky is falling.
Starting point is 00:01:48 You've got to get up and do something. Yeah. And that shit worked for her. And the reason I think her story is so good and so inspirational is because it's always interesting when people do things at such a later stage in life because they always try to tell you that, you know, you got to get it when you young. Yeah, yeah. But the reality is, yo, your time is your time.
Starting point is 00:02:06 And that shit was crazy because I like, what I like doing is when I go to see people's podcast live, I like to see how they're going to do it. I like to see how it's evolved. Because, you know, 10 years ago, 11 years ago, when we were doing a live podcast, we were literally just sitting on stage. You know what I'm saying? Talking shit. Hoping something funny with that.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Man, Mel shit is. Those are the best. Mel shit is stage play slash stand-up slash sermon. Oh, really? Oh, what does stage play mean? Meaning, she's acting out scenes from her life. Like literally bringing props on stage and, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:02:41 Like walking you through steps through her life. I'm like, you know, her daughter, her daughter, Sawyer comes out and assist her throughout the play. And it's interesting because, like, there's a part with Sawyer comes out. And she's like, get out of here. You were nine when this happened. It's just an interesting show. It's a very dope-ass show. I came in front.
Starting point is 00:02:59 It was a two-hour-long show, and it was just like, wow, I was not... You didn't know that that could happen. I didn't know what they expect, but that's the beauty of going to see people's live podcast now because some people are really putting on shows. Don't get me wrong. Some people out there cheating and just out there talking,
Starting point is 00:03:13 you know what I mean? But some people like decisions, decisions, like the Mel Robbins and World. They're 85 South. They're really putting on, you know, great shows. So, yeah, it was interesting to go see Mel. Boy, I tell you one thing. I don't think there's anybody in the country who has white women on lock like Mel Robbins.
Starting point is 00:03:35 So let me tell you something. Was the audience like... Call her daddy ain't got shit on Mel Robbins. Yeah, it's different. But like, so was there like a lot of like late 30s, early 40s struggling white women in the audience? I don't know if they were struggling, but it was a lot of white women. in the audience. Like a lot of them.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Fellas, that's an important thing to take note of, like, you go to a show like that where like women are in need of help, right? You want a woman who's down on her luck. You want a woman who's low confidence, right?
Starting point is 00:04:07 So you can swoop in there and take advantage of that situation. I don't know if it's down on your luck. I just think, what? I thought it was in 90s again for a second. It's people there looking for motivation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:19 I mean, like, I ain't for it. I left feeling motivated. But I'm like, and it's not like I need it. Yeah. I just have my hands in the head. Those holes want to be saved. They want to be safe.
Starting point is 00:04:30 You got to go to the Mel Robbins show. You could save a hoe or two or three. And that's not how that works. Wait, what? You got daughters. What? He has a daughter. He has a daughter.
Starting point is 00:04:41 And a mother. Yeah. Don't tell him that. Listen, all of this is fine now. He'll be crying his ass off in 16 years. I mean boo-hooing. Okay. He's going to be boo-hooing.
Starting point is 00:04:54 in 16 years if he does not use his privilege to make the world a better place for women. I'm trying to get OnlyFans taking down. I'm trying to get porn taken down. That's the start. I'm trying to tell guys to go to these Mel Roberts shows and fill up some old holes. Shut up. Listen, man. Mel.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Listen. It's summertime. And you know what I like about Mel do? Mel talk shit. She talked that shit. Mel ain't one of them uppity-ass, bougie-ass people. Mel be like, fuck you. Fuck you.
Starting point is 00:05:26 You know what I mean? Your shit's stink and wash it. I mean, I'm sure she'd probably say it in a... She might not. She probably would say it like that. Yeah. If your shit's stink and washing. If your shit, stink and wash it.
Starting point is 00:05:36 A lot of girls out there with the bacterial vaginosis and they're just like, yo, what's so smelly? That's not a joke. That b-be-but you got to be real with people when that shit is. You do have to be real. People don't be real. Like, that's the problem. What do you do?
Starting point is 00:05:47 I tell them, put a zen in there. A zen? Nothing. What the fuck? What is it? Shout out the mess. Well, Robbins is all I wanted to say. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Sorry, sorry. We took an abrupt turn. My bad. All right. Listen, we're not mature enough to have these conversations. You're not mature enough. That is one of the- I was having a mature conversation.
Starting point is 00:06:06 I was fine. Don't put this on music. All right, man. But Mel, Mel, Mel, let them. Okay. Yeah, let them. Let us. That's how Shost wants to act.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Let, let him. Let me do that. Let them let me. Let them let me. That's the, yo, the let them theory is this shit, bro. the let them theory. The let them theory is literally like whatever other people are doing, whatever they're on, let them, because you can't control other people. But what if they're saying you got bacterial vaginozes? If they're saying that to you? Yeah. Should we just let them do that?
Starting point is 00:06:39 Yeah, you let them. Like what other people say about you is none of your business. Unless you go, like they write. You know what I'm saying? But it's still not your business, man. I should have taken that way more serious. I apologize. I was acting like a silly little goof. Your wife don't like Mel Robbins? No, no, no. Is she familiar?
Starting point is 00:07:06 No, no, I don't think she knows her. I don't think she knows her. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Mel is dope. Mel is dope. No, no, I don't think, no. I know what she, I honestly am being a cell joke now. She's a superstar, like massive superstar. I congratulated when you did the pod.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Remember, I said it was like, yo, she's female Joe Rogan. That's what I call it. Mel is, she's a big, big deal. Big deal. Big Melly, they call her. Five million books. Like, I think that she has the highest. People don't realize that.
Starting point is 00:07:32 She's got the highest selling book at Random House in like either 10 years or 20 years or something like that. Like, it's a phenomenon. Like, the Let Them Theory is a cultural phenomenon. Like, people out here with the Let Them tattoos on their arms. Like, this is how I know people really don't read? Like, or at least all these. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:50 I haven't read in a minute. I ain't all that. like that. What is just true? I haven't read in a minute. When a book is a cultural phenomenon, and we don't know about it. People don't recognize it like they should. At least, I don't want to say it, our audience. There's a certain demographic of America that
Starting point is 00:08:04 absolutely recognizes it. Like, you know when a book is a... What's the last book you think was a cultural phenomenon? I would probably say the subtle art and not giving up up. Ooh, by... What was the gentleman's name? He came on our podcast. Mark Thompson? Mark... Mark...
Starting point is 00:08:20 No, no, no, no. No. Mark, you're right, Manson, Mark Manson. Was it Mark Manson? Mark Manson. Sutter order and not giving fuck. I remember that. That was a cultural phenomenon. I recommended that book to XXX, X, X, X, X, X, X, Tentacion.
Starting point is 00:08:35 You did. I was, yeah, I remember I was messaging. I'd spoken about him on Vlad, and he hit me up. He's like, yo, thanks for the words of encouragement. I'm just kind of like, depressed, going through some shit. And I was like, dude, you should read this book. You might get something out of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Interesting. The secret. Like there was another one? Secret. Yeah, but that was years ago. Like, yes, I agree. Secret, absolutely. Secret was a phenomenon.
Starting point is 00:08:58 The secret, the four, uh, the, uh, yeah, four agreements, all that stuff. But those are classics. Like, like, I'm talking about new age. Like, subtle art and not giving a fuck. Let them theory. Last two cultural phenomena. I know one. Uh, get honest or die lying.
Starting point is 00:09:13 I know that book. Listen, I know that book. I have a nice. I know that one. I have a nice space in the book world. I'm just saying. I have a nice thing in the book world. I know that one.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Hey, I have a nice lane in the book world. I know deep waters. I have a nice lane in the world. Deep waters. I know that one went crazy. What is deep waters? Deep waters. No, man, shallow waters.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Shallow waters by a needle cup act. And the sequel to Wind, the wind in her tongue is out. Listen, I have a nice lane in the book world, you know. A nice lane. Some might say New York Times best sellers. Some might say that. Hey, for myself. But then I also have a book in print.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Had it for five years with Simon and Schuster. Listen, we're not trying to brag. on this podcast. A lot of times when you just talk about your life, it seems like you're bragging. Like, if you really want to brag, you might say something like... No, I don't brag. You don't brag. I think, first of all, you know what I hate, I hate people who lie. I hate people who brag, number one, and I hate people who lie to brag.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Lye to brag. Oh, so people are capping. Yes. Like, stop announcing your numbers for shit, especially when everybody knows that day. No, I'm not going to say, we know that you're lying. I hate people that do that shit, stop doing that. I can't stand it. Like, because if you're really...
Starting point is 00:10:22 First of all, we all know this game. We all know this business. Y'all don't, y'all got to stop doing that. Because two things, why are you making yourself hot? What do you mean? What do you mean? Explain what you're trying to be. When people be like, yo, I got $100 million for this and I got $50 million for that.
Starting point is 00:10:36 It's like, why? Why? Because number one, you're not telling the truth. And it's fucking the game up. And the reason is fucking the game up because there's people out here who want to make living doing certain things. And they hear that. And they hear that.
Starting point is 00:10:47 And they're like, well, I should get a piece of that. It's the Jerry Stackhouse thing. Remember, remember when Jerry Stackhouse is like, Jordan makes 36, million a year, you don't think I should make a third of that? And, and, no. Every GM was like, no, actually. Number one, you're not Michael Jordan. Number two, you mess up the market for other people because a lot of these businesses are lucrative, right? Whether you're talking about books, whether you're talking about podcasts, what you're talking about audio scripted. This is a fantastic
Starting point is 00:11:11 point. Whatever it is. They are lucrative. But you will, you know, push yourself out of getting good money just by hearing somebody's number and thinking yourself, well, this person got such and such. By thinking that's normal compensation when in reality, it's not at all. When it's reality, the person's lying. No, you're right. You're right. Like, the person is not even telling the truth. The nice thing about, like, a collective bargaining agreement in the NBA or the NFL or
Starting point is 00:11:36 whatever is, is like, you know what the max salary is, right? You know what the minimum is. Nobody can say they're making more than that number. Not saying we need that in podcasts or no media or whatever, but the nice thing about is there is no cap it. No, listen, the podcast world, and I'll just use podcast, the podcast world is the easiest world
Starting point is 00:11:54 to gauge. Now, maybe seven, eight years ago, it wasn't, right? But now people know exactly how much this amount of downloads should get you. It's really just that simple. Like, it's not rocket science. I can look at a podcast and say,
Starting point is 00:12:10 oh, he's getting this many downloads. Okay, this is the number that they should be getting. Can I ask you a question? This is like a little bit separate. Okay. So let's say I'm like a person that works at one of these networks, right? And I understand that someone, let's say they're getting X amount of downloads, but they have a specific demographic that's really valuable to me.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Are there certain companies will pay more, i.e. women, they'll pay more to bring that person over because of the people that they're talking to. Yeah, I definitely think there's a cultural cachet text. At least that's a hot operate. And like, fuck, there's this thing called, I don't even know if it's still around called Politico. Do you know that? Yeah, hell yeah, the website. Yeah, and it's like, nobody really reads it.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Political? Well, no one reads it compared to, like, the New York Times or some shit. But the people that do read it are like every politician, every lobbyist. So the eyeballs that are on it are valuable. So I think they can charge higher rates for advertisers. Is that common amongst most media? Political does great numbers. I don't know what I don't, honestly, I think I read, do I read political more than New York Times?
Starting point is 00:13:14 I read political just as much as the New York. You're like, I would say like you're skewed to being more interested in politics than the average person. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it comes to demographics, too. Yeah. I mean, in my experience, if you have a show or program, what have you, that it's a certain demographic, women between a certain age, and there's a specific advertiser who's trying to reach that. They'll pay a premium.
Starting point is 00:13:37 CPM. I heard that with like Mr. Beast, for example, because it's kid friendly and there are few shows that are that kid friendly, the advertisers, will, they'll charge the advertisers to hire CPM for access. Also, Mr. Bix has one of the biggest, most captive audiences ever. That's all they're paying us for as our audience.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Did you ever think about doing kids shit? Well, yeah. Yeah. What you talking about? Oh, you already got something in the works. You got something in the work. You know why? And I fuck it out. I don't have no problem
Starting point is 00:14:11 because I'm sure I'm not the only person thinking like this. When you see all of the cuts that are being made to like PBS. You know what I mean? What else did they cut, Chris? They just cut PBS and was it, NPR? NPR. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:23 When you see, when you see the, like Netflix just acquired Sesame Street because Sesame Street ain't got no fucking place to go. Oh, wow. That's a big action. Oh my God. They just acquired all 55 years
Starting point is 00:14:32 of the catalog and their airing new episodes. So that's a, I think that's better for, that's better for Sesame Street and Netflix, low key. Absolutely. Wow. Absolutely. Okay, so in those circumstances,
Starting point is 00:14:43 all right, with the kids stuff, it's just like and I'm sure you went through this when you first had a kid you have a kid right and like you realize that whatever they're into if you can afford it there is no amount of money that you won't stop spending so they can have those experiences
Starting point is 00:14:59 bro that's all Christmas Day is is buying a bunch of shit that they wake up to in the morning and by noon they don't give a fuck about but for those three hours oh my god and depending how old the kid is they care more about the rapping than they do the goddamn actual gift yeah yeah like my one wife keeps saying, forget Christmas. Like, literally, my wife was on a one gift thing for
Starting point is 00:15:20 everybody and then we just leave the country and go on vacation. That's far. Because she's just like, what is the point of it? Yeah. And I'm the dummy that's like, nah, let them get what they want, but she's absolutely right. I don't even see these toys after Christmas Day. So it's literally like, that's what they want. That reminds me of a conversation I was having a couple of years ago with some people from a toy company. And we were having a conversation about, um, why there was a certain product, a doll that they had put out, but the doll was based off a person
Starting point is 00:15:52 that they had on Netflix, but the doll wasn't selling. And we were all at dinner, and my wife was just like, well, that's because there's no commercials on Netflix. Like, if you're a parent, when your child is watching YouTube,
Starting point is 00:16:03 when your child is watching Nickelodeon, Disney, there's commercials in between that shit. So the kids are like, oh, mommy, I want that, daddy, I want that. So if you're watching Bluey, and they're showing Bluey commercials for that,
Starting point is 00:16:14 dolls, your kids go ask for Bluey. On Netflix, there's no commercials. So it's like, you can watch the show and like the show, but you don't even know where to go to want that. They don't even know that they want a doll. They don't even know that they can have it. They don't even know it exists. Oh, Mommy, I want that.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Like, Netflix don't have a commercial. And so it's like, yo, when we, when she said that's the toy company, the exec was looking like, the exec goes, that's a good-ass point. Like, you didn't think it out. You didn't think of it. Wait a minute. You're sitting at dinner with your wife
Starting point is 00:16:47 and the executive. Yeah. Oh, that's funny. She's a mother. Like, having the time, you know what I mean? And he said that he's like, I don't understand why that doll did himself. And she was like,
Starting point is 00:16:58 it probably was because it was on Netflix and there's no commercials for it. Because the kids don't know that can buy a fucking dog. You don't have it on YouTube, though? Well, YouTube will insert its own commercials, but it might not be for the kids' toys. But for TV, they're pumping out those stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:11 You need this easy-bake oven. You remember that thing? That's right. I mean, it is crazy that, like, what kids will learn just by watching. Like, my wife cooks. She makes every meal almost for our daughter. My daughter now has, like, a little oven set. And I'm watching her open drawers, put things in, close the drawers, watch it,
Starting point is 00:17:37 open it, take it out, hand it. Like, I don't even think she knows she's cooking. I wonder if she thinks my wife is just having fun. the kitchen. Like, I don't know if they connect that kind of shit yet, but it's like... Not not just, she don't know what it is yet. She just sees her mom doing something and she's mimicking it. That's why you gotta get rid the only fans, bro. And motherfucking
Starting point is 00:17:54 porn hub and lock the door when you're fucking. And lock the door when you fuck it. You lock the door when you fuck. Or you let them kind of see so they know the disappointment. Like, you don't what I mean? Not let them see, but like I used to be able to hear my
Starting point is 00:18:10 parents fuck and then I got an understanding of how long it should be. I never thought it should be 45 minutes and all these other positions. That's a good point. If daddy has a poor performance, then maybe she'll be a lesbian. My dad has four O'Larys. Oh, my God. My dad has four O'Larys.
Starting point is 00:18:26 I would hear the backboard hitting the wall. We had really cheap walls, so the sound would go through two rooms. And you just hear boom, boom, and my mom would go, Oh, Lari. Oh, Lari. Lari. Oh, Lari. And on that fourth one,
Starting point is 00:18:43 damn. We're going back to sleep as a family. You're hearing snoring every few minutes. That 4-4-O-Larry, snoring. Yo, imagine snowing him when you sneak out of the house. You know exactly what you got to house? On the first old Larry. You're out of here.
Starting point is 00:18:55 The boy's texting you, like, hold on, he's on the third. It's like a heist movie. That 4-4-O-Larry, okay, about five more minutes and hit the snoring. They're done. I'm out. Y'all all heard your parents have sex? Come on, of course. I said, I never heard.
Starting point is 00:19:09 You must have heard. No, I never heard. I saw, but I didn't, I didn't hear. You saw it? One, one time. Like, I didn't see anything. I just saw them under the covers. Now, I know what that was.
Starting point is 00:19:20 You saw it. You were, you're an older brother. Nah, I never saw her, yo. Of course you saw it. You was in the guts. No. Dad was playing peekaboo too before you came out. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:19:33 You were in your mom's stomach. I didn't see that, though. I was in a single wide trailer, so, you know, you couldn't fucking, like, I could be asleep on the living room floor and just get up and walk in the bedroom and Boom, like, oh shit. Really? I always saw that like once, though. But I never, like, they was always under the cover.
Starting point is 00:19:47 With all due to respect, what position? The missionary. I mean, you walk in, the missionary is the only position you don't see nothing. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You walk in when the, you know, the mom's on top or you're hitting it from the back. I'd be so awkward for the mom. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:01 That's crazy. Staring right at the door. Isn't you mad? Close the door? My parents wouldn't stop, though. That's a crazy thing. My brother used to go in there like once a week. It was insane.
Starting point is 00:20:13 My brother would be, and he'd act like he didn't know what they're doing, and he'd act like my mom was hurt, right? He'd be like, Mom, are you okay? He probably thought he was getting hurt. Shout out the big Larry legend. Hey, they call him the grandfather clock for a reason. Why didn't they call him the grandfather clock? That shit, he's swinging, brother.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Yeah, damn, big Ben. Big Ben. Let's do some, moral of the story. stop lying about what the fuck you're getting out here, man. And just stop announcing your numbers, period. Why? What is the point of that? What is the point to let people know that you're successful?
Starting point is 00:20:51 Is it let people know that you're killing it? Who is the fuck? That's what I think. I think it's like if you put that into the world, people start believing it. And let's say if they're lying about a podcast, but then they're also trying to work out like a TV deal. It's like, yo, look what I get from my podcast. You've got to pay me more. Alex, can I tell you something?
Starting point is 00:21:07 I'm just saying that's probably the go. Alex. Can I hold on. Please, please, yeah, yeah. You can't lie to these people at these corporations. You can lie to everybody on the internet. These people at these corporations, you know what it is. They got the fucking numbers.
Starting point is 00:21:20 A TV network is not going to look and say, oh, he said he got this amount for his podcast or this amount for his book. Oh, it's just a phone call. Bro, you know, it's funny. You're right, but the, and people, I guess maybe they're starting to learn this a little bit more now, but like, there's not a lot of money in TV and,
Starting point is 00:21:40 Like, actors don't make... I mean, they make tons of money, but not compared to, like, other forms of media, right? So, like, I got asked to do some... Movie, right? And it was going to take a lot of time to do the movie. And we had to tell them, we're like, listen, I would like to do this to be a cool opportunity. But, like... Four weeks of my life...
Starting point is 00:21:59 Three months. Three... Oh, shit. And I'm like, I don't know. Like, you have to understand what I'm giving up for that amount of time. And they're so, like, unaware of what... They think we all do this for free. I think Hollywood thinks
Starting point is 00:22:13 they're like, okay, Rogan makes a lot of money and then maybe Alex Cooper does and everybody else does it as like a fun little hobby. You know, they can't fath... Kind of right.
Starting point is 00:22:22 This podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, there's an elite 1% yeah, fair enough. A podcast really making money. But I guess what I'm saying is like, it's not something that like the movie business is used to
Starting point is 00:22:36 to like asking somebody to do or they think they're always offering Well, that's evil too, though, because it's like, you don't want to come do a movie? I do. I do. I really do. But I don't know if I could get three months of my life. I don't know if I can just stop. That's a lot.
Starting point is 00:22:51 You got a family now. You know what I'm saying? You may not be on a road right now, but you'd have to give up two podcasts for three months. Like, that's a lot of time. Now, what role is it, though? That's the thing. It could be cool. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:23:04 That's my point. You got to think about who you're going to be paired next to because that three months of your life might set you up for the next 30. And that's what I'm saying. And you might be, they might be right. They might be right. I got to look at it. But to his point, wouldn't that be a situation? They don't even know how much money he's making outside of the movie industry.
Starting point is 00:23:23 So putting that in the ether of like, yo, this is what I make on podcast. Now the movie. It don't matter. You don't have to be honest. No, you have to be honest. That's what Charlemagne is saying. They're going to know the real numbers. So you're lying about the numbers doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:23:37 But if you tell them like the real numbers, they at least have to. look at that and go, oh, blah, blah, blah. Also, this is the other thing that, like, they get over with us. Like, anytime, for example, you're in a movie or, like, anytime, like, we're naturally going to talk about our lives, which any film would pay. So it's like, it's like, it's like, they go, they'll probably, they'll probably, it's like you're getting it for free. Like, why even?
Starting point is 00:24:03 They would either pay us scale or a little bit more because of our cultural cachet and because of this. But they're not, for the most part, it's not like they're going to say here's $10 million for three months. No. And I don't think I'm worth it. I get that totally. Like go get fucking Brad Pitt or somebody way better and more famous acting than me.
Starting point is 00:24:20 But there is this like weird push and pull where it's like, there's a certain actor that maybe is like way better at acting and knows these types of things, but he doesn't really bring that much to the table outside of that. And then you have an opportunity where like you get a you or me or some other person that is in media. And then you not only get us. to do it, but you also get us to talk about it every week. But, but yet, it's like... Shultz is right, but we still don't have no box office history.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Exactly. So it's like they're not paying us any extraordinary amount. It's like, yo, to them, they're giving us an opportunity. We either take it a we don't. I told them straight up, I go, I am not worth the amount of money that I would ask to take off three months. I'm not worth that to you. I haven't proven that I can bring people to...
Starting point is 00:25:06 Like, I haven't proven that yet. So, like, I go, I'm the worst in negotiating with these things. I go, I get your position. Like, I completely get that. But I'm in a unique position where, like, I got a family. I have friends. I have, like, business that I work,
Starting point is 00:25:18 and I can't necessarily just leave that. So I either got to reduce the amount of time, then we can make something work or figure something else out. Or they can find a role of everybody. And then the whole family eats. Well, that's why we have a friend that's producing movies now because... That's right. There's a power in no.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's why in certain cases, yo, what other thing can I do to sweeten the pot? What can I do? Can I give show some equity in this movie? So then if he takes off three months and then, you know, he gambles on himself,
Starting point is 00:25:49 this shit makes a couple hundred million, 300 million at the box office. Now that three months was absolutely positively worth it. Yes, sir. You know what I'm saying? Yes, sir. My whole point is we're having conversations because we actually know.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Man, when I watch y'all sometimes say certain things and announce certain things, I get so frustrated because I'm like, Why are you doing that? First of all, why are you bringing that kind of heat on yourself? Second, do you realize how you fucking up the game? Yo, yeah, yeah. Because there's people out there that's like,
Starting point is 00:26:15 yo, I know I'm getting more numbers than this person. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I know that I'm more successful in whatever field I am in this person, but he just got what? She just got what? No, no, no, no. And you can't say this person's lying,
Starting point is 00:26:28 but then you sound like a fucking hate him. Even when they, even when they, like, release the marketing for the deals, a lot of these deals ain't what they say they are. Like, even the ones that are, they're valued at such and such amount of money. It's like, but you have to earn that out. That's right.
Starting point is 00:26:44 And if you stop podcasting where your podcast doesn't do it or whatever, then you're not going to earn it out. So it's not really. And you've got to hit a bunch of benchmarks just to get the top. You're going to worse than NFL contracts from the 90s. Facts. Like, for real, what's the guaranteed money? That's what I'm going to, how much did you get guaranteed?
Starting point is 00:27:00 And by the way, I want to say this to the pre-win. This is what I'm really trying to say, this is a great business to make a living. and everybody just has to start tempering their expectations. If you simply temper your expectations, let's just say you make a quarter million dollars, right, to talk for an hour of fucking week. You're the luckiest human being on planet Earth. Do you know what some people have to do for a quarter million dollars?
Starting point is 00:27:27 Bro, there was a whole trial right now about it. You know what I'm saying? You could be rubbing calm on someone's nipples for that. You see what the fuck I'm saying? That's a real thing. real. That was a job. That was a fucking job. Yo, straight up. Imagine being the cum provider. That's even worse. I thought about that. I've been thinking about this. That's a pretty good job. No, no, no. I'm the guy. You're a dairy cow.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Exactly. How do you feel knowing that your cum is going to be rubbed on this man's nipples? Yeah, you are complicit in that homosexuality. You are. You are. You are. That's secondhand gate. No, because you're coming on Cassie. You know, if you don't even don't. Let's say your girl wants, let not your girl, in an hypothetical situation, let's say a girl wants you to jerk off on her, right? And she's like, jerk off of me, jerk off me. You're like going to jerk off. And right when you nut, she moves out the way and it's a dude with his mouth open. You just come to the guy's mouth, dude. Yeah, yeah, that would count. You got to swat your own shit. You did. You got to swat it right before it hits his lip. It'll be easy. It ain't covered up. All of those guys cannot deny the fact that there come was on Diddy and Diddy got played.
Starting point is 00:28:36 out of it. I don't care about the middle person. He's jerking on to your... I don't care. Yeah, the middle person really doesn't matter. The middle person does not matter in this situation. What matters is, is a madman who said, I want that come on my nipples. Think about it. The companies, the pharmaceutical companies that make the fentanyl, and then the doctor prescribes it, we punish the pharmaceutical company for making that fucking fentanyl and giving it out to people.
Starting point is 00:28:59 That's right. The doctor's complicit, but the bad, bad person is that fentanyl producer. You are producing fentanyl and brubbing all over our doctor. and rubbing all over a guy's tits. You are. You are. Okay. You are hug.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Al, you need a fucking lighter. You got it. You got it. You're disgusting. Jesus. Right. There's a mother in this room. Shout out.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Listen, I mean, did you see the trial this week? Did you see some of the stuff that came out this week? He's getting off. What? You don't believe that. Then he might get off. You don't believe that. First of all, let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Then he might get off. The feds have a 97% conviction rate. And I want everybody to remember this. We're only on week two. Okay. So, we're on, week too. And now I'm understanding everything. I'm understanding the racketeering aspect of it.
Starting point is 00:29:41 I've been understood the sex trafficking aspect of it. But I'm understanding the racketeering aspect of it because of hold on. Look at this shit. Let me, let me, let me, let me. Yeah, tell me what the, because what did I miss? Because I. A friend. Oh, the friendship was crazy. Wait, what, what's the friendship? Hold on.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Wait, what's a friendship? The Rico charge against Diddy is not just about. sex trafficking one victim, and it's just about more than sex trafficking. DeRico, feds are accusing him of multiple acts of kidnapping, arson,
Starting point is 00:30:16 witness tampering, bribery, forced labor, intent to distribute narcotics, and more. So, like, so when you hear these stories about how, like, you know, today Cassie's friend, one of Cassie's
Starting point is 00:30:31 friends took the stand and said, fucking did he assaulting her? And paid her $30,000 and made her sign a NDA. And she confronted them. And so white girl, too, she confronted them after seeing Cassie get hands put on it. And so did he put hands on her? You understand what I'm saying? Then you got shit like, you know, the Kid Cuddy car getting blown up.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Oh, Kit Cuddy's car got blown up? Yes. Like, this shit, like the feds are doing this, bro. The feds are just slow. letting all of this shit out. They've done all their due diligence, and we always forget one thing. They ran up in this house.
Starting point is 00:31:13 We don't even know what they got out of there. But whatever they got out of there led to all of this. Yeah. If Fas got a 97% conviction rate. I think I might take back my statement, man. I kind of just said it without really knowing I was talking about, because it seems like it's pretty bad.
Starting point is 00:31:30 If he blew up, what's his name? Allegedly. Allegedly. If he allegedly, are those sticking to the third? top of the ceiling. Wasn't that? They said that was from the night of his hotel, right?
Starting point is 00:31:38 Oh, oh, okay, got to go. They said that was the night they arrested him, right? Yeah. That's the night they arrested him, bro. I was going to get a little jolly rancher, though. Oh, nice. That's the night they arrested him. He got the honey pack.
Starting point is 00:31:50 He got drugs. No. He got fucking oils. Nah. But is it, are these illegal things to have? No, I think it just shows that he got a, not the coke or the tucy. Pink cocaine.
Starting point is 00:32:04 I don't know, man. That's his house. Baby oil. What is his fixation with baby oil? What is that about? Make it shining. Yeah, he likes him super shiny. But like, what is he like shining?
Starting point is 00:32:20 What? You know what I really believe? I believe Diddy. They went through a gallon every one day. And I've said this on this podcast before. I believe Diddy is just always trying to escape. I believe he's experienced so much. much trauma in his life.
Starting point is 00:32:36 He's had so much grief around him that he's always trying to escape. And what makes him feel like he's escaping is drugs and sex. Those are great mechanisms for escape. And as long as you can constantly stay high and constantly stay in some type of zone where you fucking,
Starting point is 00:32:56 you never got to deal with reality. They didn't even use probably spit. They used the oil. Why would you use spit with all that baby oil, Taylor? And after this baby, Baby oil, they got lube and astrolide and all types of shit. But she said that, though, that they used it like every five minutes. That's so unhealthy for her vagina.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Oh, you're saying it could mess up the pH balance? That's what happened. That's what she said. I don't know, man. What did she say? What happened to her vagina? She got a bunch of UTIs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Wow. Yeah, I just don't see. I mean, listen, like I said, it's only week two. And you got eight to ten more weeks. I believe it's going to come a point where the prosecution is going to be like no moths. Really? No, Maas. Can we talk about this plea again? You mean the defense? The defense. No, defense. No defense. No defense is going to be like, no mas. No mosque. Can we talk about this plea at some point? Can we revisit this plea shit again?
Starting point is 00:33:47 And then he's just- Because they already conceded to the conduct. Y'all do know that, right? Yeah. So, first day. They're trying to make it, they conceded to the conduct. They're just saying that the conduct was consensual. Consensual. Got it got it. He wasn't, he didn't coerced anybody to do any of these things. Why did Cassie and this could be just fake? headlines, but say I still have love for that time in my life? She probably does. How could, I don't, how.
Starting point is 00:34:10 And Stockholm. Why does she need to be hate, like, why she needs to hate so much? Stockholm syndrome is real. Like, you, like, plenty of people fall in love with folks that abuse them. Like, I can see that. Like, that's not a, that's not a, a crazy thing for somebody to say. So she's, she's angry at the abuse, despite still loving some of the times together. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Oof, that's really brutal, man. It's emotional. That's what emotional manipulation is, though, right? Also, you're so pot committed. Like, I imagine, like, once you've been disrespect and defiled in such a severe way, you're almost trapped by that behavior. Because you're like, if he just says to the world that this is what I would do, I can't be a pop star anymore.
Starting point is 00:34:58 If he just says this to the world that that's the things that I'm into and I've been peed on and all these other things. Like, I won't have a successful career. So in a way, it's a mechanism to trap them. You know, like, I don't know if it's the same thing, but like, you know how like in fraternities they do that hazing shit and you've got to do like some weird gay stuff or whatever? It's like, I wonder if part of that is like, hey, you're going to, you're going to stay silent because we know you did some weird ass shit.
Starting point is 00:35:23 That's a good-ass point because those people who, you know, do that shit, they get abused in a lot of ways. Not saying that all fraternities and sororities do that, but a lot of them do. The ones that do. Do some levels of abuse. And yet they still want to be down with the frat and still love the frat, right? So it's kind of like the same thing. Like you can be with a person, grow to love that person,
Starting point is 00:35:43 and then that person turns abusive. And you're trying to figure out why the fuck is this happening? Gangs too. I remember when we were young, like, in order to join up with the bloods, whatever, you had to give someone a buck 50. That was like the rumor going around. You had to like cut their face with a box cut. And it's like you just slice some random people's faces.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Yes, you, I guess, have joined this gang. the same time is you've committed to being, I don't know if you're a bad person for the rest of your life, but like you've committed to doing a bad act. And once you've, not committed, but once you've submitted to that, it's easier for you to do other horrible things. That buck 50 don't got nothing on that butt fuck 69. When you do that butt fuck 69, did you see the, um, the escort from Florida, I believe, the one that he was like kind of going crazy. like shooting at the cops and stuff like that. And then he was testifying to the police about being one of their sexual escorts.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Oh, I remember that from back in the day. And didn't he try to shoot Trump? Wasn't he the guy that they arrested trying to assassinate Trump? Yeah, I don't know if it's, but yeah, I just sent that to the group. It's like, because I was like, yo, you don't even look like you were escort. And then you see pictures of what he used to look like. And I was like, oh, okay, you actually. You thought he was more handsome?
Starting point is 00:37:03 Chippendales type of like him. No, no. You thought he was fuckable back then? What fuck 69? Yeah. That's the guy. That's the guy. That's the guy.
Starting point is 00:37:09 But fuck 69. Let's see. Let me see. But fuck 69. You're never the same after that. What gang are you in? But he said, he said, Diddy is part of the black Illuminati called the Bule.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Have you ever heard of that? And are you in? I've heard of the Bouté. I've heard of the Bouté. No, but are you in? Are you in? I've never been in the Boutet. See, you're making jokes.
Starting point is 00:37:32 You're making me think that year in it. Yo! Speaking of Black. Black Illuminati. Hold on, hold on. Hey, Chad Chibi T, what is the Bule, or the Black Illuminati? The Black Aluminati. Officially known as Sigma Pi Phi is the oldest African-American Greek-lettered organization founded in 1904.
Starting point is 00:37:54 It was established to provide a network and support system for the black professional class at a time when opportunities for African-Americans were extremely limited due to segregation and racism. That's got to let it do a butt-fuck 69, bro. Are you at it? No. But I have a comic book coming out this June that explores that world. Really? Yes, man.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Come on, yo. I'll be 10 steps ahead of these stupid motherfuckers all the time. Illuminati, okay? A thriller where hip-hop and comics collide. It'll be out this June. I've been announced that a long time ago. Hey, Chat Chabit, is Charlemagne the God part of the Boulet? There's no public evidence or official statement indicating that Charlemagne the God
Starting point is 00:38:38 is a member of the Boulay or six. Sigma Pi-Fi. What the fuck is Sigma Pi-Fi? Huh? Sigma Pi-Fi, also known as the Bulei, is the first Greek-letter society founded by African-American professions. Yo, question, question. Is that picture where Charlemagne is on his hands and knees and his asses in the air? Is that a real picture of Charlemagne or is that someone else? Which program are you using?
Starting point is 00:39:04 Hold on. That image. But keep going. Sorry for interrupting. No worries. That image is actually a Photoshop. or manipulated picture that has circulated online. Charlemagne the God himself has addressed such images in the past, noting they are fake and often used to mock or spread rumors. In short, it's not an authentic photo of him.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Yo. Wow. Charlemagne is Illuminati. You got Chad Chi BT editing. Yo! Illuminati will be revealed in partnership with Charlamine the God, one of the most influential voices in hip-hop pop culture. AWA Studio brings you a relentless, supernaturally.
Starting point is 00:39:44 thriller that tackles head on the most enduring urban legend, the black illuminati. Yeah. Okay. Where'd you get your source material from? It may or not be based on a true story. Oh. Los Angeles has its secrets and fame has a price when a rising hip-hop star dies under mysterious
Starting point is 00:40:01 circumstances. Her twin sister, a young woman with psychic abilities, journeys to the city of angels, but answers and becomes enmeshed in a dark conspiracy that snakes its way through the pillars of power, fame, and pop culture. Wow. June. It may or may not be based on a true story. Wow. But you know the crazy part is, man, the funny part is now that we're putting this out, it's so much stuff people are going to read and it's just like so much stuff has already came out that people are going to be like, oh,
Starting point is 00:40:30 you know what I mean? It almost, it's a great project, but it's also a better project when things are still shrouded in some level of secrecy. And the fact that everything is so exposed. Everything's so exposed now. Yeah. You know? Let's do some all-means necessary, Taylor. Stop lying about how much money y'all getting for stuff, man. Taylor, you know which one to start with. You already know which one to start with. There's a headline up there that is so crazy.
Starting point is 00:40:59 And you've got to do it, and you should know exactly which one it is. Let's see if she knows it, and she's good. Oh, no, this is awesome. This is wild old. I know, but I was, y'all didn't play it when I had it originally, so I just brought it back. This is wild old. This is fake? This is fake?
Starting point is 00:41:17 Yeah, it's not real. Really? Yeah. Come on. Jackie Chan wasn't telling the fucking truth. Shut up. Why would Jackie Chan lie about some shit like this, yo?
Starting point is 00:41:28 No, I think he got in trouble or something. He had to be like, y'all was making that up. That's not real. I'm going to play it. All you got to do is say is AI now. Let's see it. By the way, AI is good as a motherfucker. Motherfunk would be tagging me and shit.
Starting point is 00:41:39 And it looks good. Bro, no, it's the voice. I don't even want to play this shit because I don't even want to get any people with no props. But it's like, yo, they be putting us in shit to promote like their music all types of other shit. And I'm like, yo, I never said that.
Starting point is 00:41:54 I don't even know you, bro, to be promoting your shit. And they'll take the video of you and have the voice over going so people don't know the difference. Like I saw one the day. This dude, this guy got me, Jay Shetty, Kai Sinat, and somebody else promoting his fucking singer. Wow. How's the of y'all talking, same? Yes, this shit is insane. This shit is insane.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Give me something else, Taylor. I've seen this a million times. I don't, like, like, the Down syndrome, like, that's so old. What's up with Nick's fans, Joe? We're the greatest. Yeah. What are the greatest? Why?
Starting point is 00:42:38 What do you mean why? Because we're the greatest city in the world, and we're the greatest people in the world, because you can't have the greatest city without the greatest people. And now we're coming close to success, closer than we've been in decades. And it's very exciting for us. And if we win a championship, we might destroy the entire fucking city. Why only the Knicks bring this out of people?
Starting point is 00:42:58 The Giants don't bring this out of people. Because New York City is a basketball city. This is the thing a lot of people don't realize. Our high schools, a lot of them, don't have any sport that you could play outside of basketball. There's no room for anything else. There's no room for a baseball team. There's no room for a football team. There's no room for a hockey team.
Starting point is 00:43:14 The only thing we got is basketball. So New York, at its core, has one sport that we care about, and it is basketball. That makes all this thing from the fucking world. If the Knicks win a championship, it will look like Gaza in Times Square. Damn. The Knicks will destroy, I mean, the Nick fans, we will destroy Times Square. No, no, we will. Brother.
Starting point is 00:43:37 I think they love to see. We will absolutely destroy. You know what part of me that almost hopes if we win, it's an away game. because if it's at home, it is going to be... It don't matter if it's a way. Let's give Knicks some props, though. They're doing all of this,
Starting point is 00:43:53 and the only thing they fucking up is people. You ain't heard about no shops or anything getting fucked up. Only person getting fucked up is people. This guy that Tyrese, Allerburdon just flew out. This is very important that you guys need to understand this, okay? The Knicks have been so bad for so long
Starting point is 00:44:10 that a lot of y'all got comfortable wearing the jerseys from the opposing teams in this city. You got comfortable having pride in the places that you're from. That was tolerated because we were so bad. Now that the Knicks are good, it's going back to like the 70s, 80s energy. And it will not be safe. What I mean is dead serious. I do not suggest for your safety wearing your team's jersey, meaning the Indiana Pacers. And when we get past the Pacers, who's probably going to be OKC? Or Thunder jersey in New York. I don't know. I don't I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:44 I don't know. But Pacer specifically because of the history. The history, yeah. I would not wear an Indiana Pacer's jersey in New York City for the next couple weeks. That is my deepest dark. Ron, our test wouldn't even help you in a Pacer's in Jersey. No, he wouldn't. He'd be the first person to swing on you.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Ron would be like, get the fuck out of here. You know, somebody had a conversation. We was having a conversation other day, and they were talking about, you know, who's the face of the NBA. And somebody said, first of all, they name all these foreigners. No foreigner will ever be the face of the NBA. Not happening. I don't give a fuck. How many jerseys they sell?
Starting point is 00:45:13 It's just, here's the thing. Luca Donkich has the number one selling jersey in the NBA right now. And you can't even pronounce his name. And he's not, but is he the face of the NBA? No. Yannis has a top 10 jersey. Is he the face of the NBA? No.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Shai has a top 10 jersey. Is he the face of the NBA? No. A foreigner will never be the face of the NBA. They might get a lot of love internationally. Do you know who people want to be the face of the NBA? Ant fucking man. And if Aunt didn't have four baby mamas and all this other off-court drama,
Starting point is 00:45:42 they would have handed him the keys to the league. But the fact that he's got some fuck shit going on outside of basketball, they're a little hesitant. But the people want him. He hasn't had that moment yet, though. That's what I'm saying. On the court. That's what I'm saying. But everything about him, he has it.
Starting point is 00:45:56 He's got the personality. He's got it all. He hasn't had that 50-point game. Get a vasectomy and they'll give him the league. If Anne gets a vasectomy, they will hand him the keys to the NBA for the next decade, I promise you. If Ann balls out in this Western Conference finals and makes it to the finals, there's nothing the league can do regardless. It will be AI.
Starting point is 00:46:17 The culture is going to give it to them. It will be AI. Yes. Like the league didn't want to give it to them, but AI was too prolific. Now, I'm going to tell you something else. If the New York Knicks, which I do think the Knicks are going to the finals. If the Knicks get to the finals. Brother.
Starting point is 00:46:29 And if they win, the will of New York is going to make Jalen Brunson the face of the league. Okay. Jailen Brunson is going to be Jesus. Let Jalen Brunson Bring a championship back home I'm gonna tell you who my god No but you know who's gonna be the most beloved Like it will be Jalen's league
Starting point is 00:46:51 But who New Yorkers will love the most Is Josh Harthart We've always loved the dog Hustle, defense, rebound Like Charles Oakley It was more beloved than Patrick Ewing This is a fact I can't It is what John Starks was more beloved
Starting point is 00:47:08 We like a grimy motherfucker that's willing to go get it and I'm telling you right now, it will be Jalen's team, but the love of the city, I don't know, the reason I say that is because Jalen be looking like Prime, Kobe, Prime, Mike, and them clutch moments.
Starting point is 00:47:26 No, no, no, no, no. They both get the keys, but... What about O.G., then? I love... I love it. I love... I love that. He is just incredible. And Low-key Bridges is playing outstanding.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Yeah. The thing about, like, Robinson. Lockdown. But Bridges specifically is really interesting how certain players, like their skill set really works perfectly in the playoffs because during the regular season, there were moments where, like,
Starting point is 00:47:52 you didn't know where he fit into the team. Like, you didn't know where he fit into the offense. He's, like, chilling in the corner. He's not really known as a three-point shooter. In the playoffs, assholes get tight. Defense gets really good. And you need guys who can just create. Man, that's just like a freak off.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Asholes get tight. D gets really good. That's why he got all the baby oil. Taylor. Okay The assholes get tight But the D gets really good Really good
Starting point is 00:48:16 And you need a guy like Bridges Who can create his own shot And that's just what happens Like when Jalen goes to the bench OG can create his own shot a little bit too But McCall Burgess Whenever he fucking wants Can get you two points
Starting point is 00:48:28 And he's having a hell of a playoffs It's beautiful to see This team is good One name you guys haven't mentioned Interestingly Yeah Cat is doing his thing He's doing his thing
Starting point is 00:48:37 He didn't have a great series Last series he showed up in games He bawled out in game six. He bawled out in game six. I'm telling you right now, Katz's going to have an amazing series against the faces. No, no, we fuck. We fuck with Katz.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Somebody told me they were talking about Tyrese Halliburton, and they were like, Tyrese Halliburton will be the face of the league. Never. No. Yeah, I can't see that. He don't have, never. He don't have the personality. See, it's all about the personality.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Also, like, it's, yeah, you're actually, I was about to be a small market team, but, like, so is the Timberwolves. Brown was in the small market team. Also, too, you know, the other thing about being the face of the league? it's kind of preordained before you even get to the league. Like, Braun was preordained. Michael Jordan was preordained. Magic and Burr was preordained.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Shack was preordained. No, you're right. Kobe, too. Kobe, to a certain extent, only because they knew he had potential. There was so much hype around it. But they never gave Kobe to the league, though. I've said that.
Starting point is 00:49:34 They never gave it to Kobe. No, no, Kobe had it. He had it for a while. He never had it. the situation over there. That's my point. He was the best and we knew it and culture recognized Kobe Ford.
Starting point is 00:49:46 The league never gave him them keys because of that freaking charge. I think he had it for it. Nah, bro. No, bro. No, they tried. Like, after the Shaq Kobe era and then Kobe caught that charge, that's when you started hearing the Kobe LeBron thing. That was a Nike, the Nike campaign was literally
Starting point is 00:50:00 Kobe LeBron. Gizi was coming out with the records and everything. They really tried to bump Kobe to the side. There were years. Kobe should have been MVP. They gave it to Steve fucking Nash. You know what? me. Kobe won two titles after that shit.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Went to the finals three times and they still didn't, he wasn't the face of the league. Yeah, that's an interesting point. How many MVPs do Kobe have? One. Yeah, so they didn't really hand him the league. No. Yeah, that's a good point. I think that's a really good point. After that charge, they did not make Kobe the face of the league. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:50:30 absolutely. They handed it as well. That was his. For how long? Five years. I think he had it longer than that. I keep telling all that shit over and over. Steph Curry is the number three greatest basketball player of all time. Okay. I feel like Michael Jordan, Kobe,
Starting point is 00:50:42 I feel like he's shared it with LeBron No, that whole time. I beat LeBron three times in NBA finals. What am I sharing? No, no, no. I went to, I played you head up in the finals, four times I beat you three.
Starting point is 00:50:54 What are we sharing? I'm talking about the way the league prop. Everybody plays like me. That's true. Even the people with vaginas. Even the other league. The greatest player in your sport plays like me. That is right.
Starting point is 00:51:07 That's true. That's true. That's true. goat and stop acting like he's fucking not. Okay? You know why they're front on Steph? Because he's light skin. Yeah, it's true, man. If Steph was dark skin and came from a struggle
Starting point is 00:51:19 if his dad was not in his life, okay? And he was raised by his single, oh my gosh. That's why they, Brunton will never get light skin, and he doesn't lack, he doesn't have the charisma as much.
Starting point is 00:51:35 I think... Nah, Brunton got charisma. No, but the personality. No, Brunton got personality. No, no, Brunson's just media trained. Like, his dad was a player. So he's been in the game so long. Like, he knows how to, you know, act in interviews, et cetera. He's being, like, very political.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Whereas... But we don't want that. We don't want that. Let me tell you something. But MJ was very political. That's the other thing that's tricky. Well, it was a different era. That's true.
Starting point is 00:51:55 All of them guys were media trained. Yeah, that was true. Who the fuck was I listening to the other day? I was listening to something and they was breaking this shit down about how David Stern came in and changed the league. because the league was the league and really he was saying the league was becoming too black
Starting point is 00:52:13 meaning like the way that they were wearing their earrings and the suits you got people that play ball all the time they wear the kicks also they wear jerseys they might not know
Starting point is 00:52:22 what the son was a jersey but the NBA wearing a Bill Russell jersey is like yo I'm wearing number six but NBA has a they have a union where they pay back
Starting point is 00:52:30 and they make sure their athletes are good do you think that came from the players or you think that came from the administrative body that was protecting diminishing returns. I think the players forced it. Huh?
Starting point is 00:52:40 I think the play is forced it. No, in 1979, the NBA was almost called the N-I-G-G-E-R basketball association. White folks were starting not to come into seats. David Stern came along in 1980, said, we got to make some changes. Well, before that they had a major drug problem. That's the first thing. Drug problem, yeah. You cleaned that up first.
Starting point is 00:52:58 That was the first movie. Yeah. Everybody's doing Coke. It was like in the late 80s. Well, mid-80s was coked out. And then he cleaned it up by the late 80s. But we should know that. There was fist fights during a game.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Like, there was very, there was a lot of cocaine energy in the league. Great time. Come on, let's not act like that wasn't a great fucking time. That was a great motherfucking time. Maybe bring a little Coke back to the league. That was a good time.
Starting point is 00:53:21 I think they're on it now. All I'm saying is this. And I'm going to tell you something else. If Jalen Brunson wins a championship for New York, by the way, any of these guys that were talking, everybody that's in there, OKC, New York City, Minnesota, who else is it fucking Indiana
Starting point is 00:53:38 If Jalen Brunston wins the championship for New York City you're going to realize why how you win a championship and where you win a championship If LeBron James had played his whole 22 years in Cleveland and won one ring for that organization
Starting point is 00:53:55 we'd be having a whole different conversation about LeBron. If LeBron stayed in Cleveland this whole time and had all of those numbers and everything else, there would be no debate about LeBron James and people would absolutely positively probably be discussing him as the greatest NBA player of all the time with really no pushback. Oh, wow. Do you think location matters as much as it used to historically? Yes. Really? Absolutely. Because if you went to ring for New York, New York can't win in 52 years. It's a story basketball franchise.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Back in the day, you literally were limited to how much you could see certain players. Like a player in, let's say Ann, in Minnesota. I was only seeing him if he was on the ABC game of the week. Yeah. No other, like, it's like the Atlanta Braves baseball team like had all these superstars on it, but only because Turner Media or whatever
Starting point is 00:54:42 was putting it on TV every single day. That's why I grew up watching. I grew up watching. David Justice. David Justin. David Cohn. Grant, John Smokesy.
Starting point is 00:54:53 They had that crazy-ass pitching staff and they never won shit, but they were on TV all the motherfucking time. Every team is like that, what I'm saying, with league pass and all these different Yeah, you're saying there's more exposure to them, especially online. New York's going to know Ant whether he's in L.A. or Cleveland. Yeah, that's why they could be so successful for sure.
Starting point is 00:55:12 But still, when L.A. is in the championship, you see the numbers are way different. When the NICs are going to be in the championship, the numbers for the actual ratings are crazy. Well, you don't think like LeBron was bigger than Cleveland. You don't think his- Indianapolis, OKC is a nightmare for the NBA. That stuff. Indianapolis, Minnesota is a nightmare for the NBA. Cleveland was before Braun.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Yeah. Brown was so big that he superseded. None of these guys are as big as Bronch. Right. You know, Luca did not have the number one jersey in the league so you went to LA. That's just a fact. Luca did not have a number one,
Starting point is 00:55:50 the number one selling jersey in the league that he went to fucking LA. But I think that there's an issue with that. Nobody wants Luca's game. Like no young kid is like, I want to play like Luca, a slow, good balance, using your body. It's the same thing why, like, it's tough for big men. Like, a cat is prolific.
Starting point is 00:56:07 He's an amazing player, but no young kid is going, I want to have cats game. They look at Jalen. But I've got to be seven feet tall to have cats. Exactly. It's tough for big men. So whereas, like, the small, like, aunt, everybody wishes they could dunk on your head
Starting point is 00:56:19 and also do step back. The game is more exciting. Steph Curry had the most exciting game in the history of NBA, in my opinion. I think he's at the most exciting game in the history of the game. That was the last basketball journey I bought. I bought the sneakers from Under Armour.
Starting point is 00:56:34 I don't like how people front on Step Curry, man. Like, he literally is a revolutionary player. Sorry? More exciting than Jordan? Yep. His game was. Oof. His game was more exciting.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Now, I think for the time, Jordan's game could have been, like, transformative. But in terms of, like, in terms of raw excitement, like shots you can't believe. Like, the way that Steph shoot, the ball. I don't know if we ever see that again. Like, it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. He's fucked the league up.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Locke. That's what he's fucked the league of. Yeah. People complain. They go, they're shooting too many threes. You got to be gifted to do that. Yep. He's gifted. Everybody else has this practice. Do you think Jason Tatum is pulling up for three the way that he does if Steph Curry's never in the league? Oh, no. He broke
Starting point is 00:57:19 the mold. There's no quick. I mean, it's like this. And I was still playing ball at the time. When Iverson was popular, all of a sudden, everybody was going sideways instead of going straight to the basket. And they weren't Overson. And to me, I was like, these guys were ruining the game.
Starting point is 00:57:32 I was going to have mad sons. Russell Westbrook. Now you watch Harry Irvin. Everybody's pulling from 30 feet. All Stephs. I was playing when they introduced the three point line, right? I remember where they literally...
Starting point is 00:57:44 How old are you, Chris? What? Black people playing? What? Yeah. Now I know why he got the scholarship. Right. I could have got a scholarship to play in college, too.
Starting point is 00:57:56 I didn't get a scholarship. walk on. But anyway, like, people didn't shoot threes. The line was there. It took 10 years for people to even shoot threes. Yeah. By the way, Michael did the same thing. There was so many people who emulated Michael's game.
Starting point is 00:58:09 But no one could dunk. Nobody could do it like him. Anybody can shoot from 30. They might hit, they might miss. You couldn't dunk even if you wanted to. But you know what, though, with Jordan. And I know, like, to me, Jordan introduced hang time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Like, people used to try to drive to the basket and hang in the air as long as they could to create some type of shot. That's what Jordan did. Dominique, too. Yeah, yeah. So the Vince Carter's and the, remember Harold's that he used to call him baby Jordan, J.R. Ryder.
Starting point is 00:58:34 All these dudes was son, Jerry Stackhouse. They were sons of Michael, man. Yeah. Like these guys got sons. How many sons do you have? That's, yeah. Kobe was Michael's son. God bless the dead.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Very true. So if the second greatest NBA player of all time is your son, and he says, I learned my game from him, what does that make you? Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Steph Curry. Wow. Okay. Then brawn, then magic.
Starting point is 00:58:58 That's my top five. It's true. Jordan had the come, I think it was Come Fly with me, the tape before you could access this stuff. And you could tell who watched. Yes. I thought you'd come fly with me.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Yes. Hobie. Oh, I mean, yeah. Let's play some bills, Taylor, gang. What we got, Taylor gang. What we got, Taylor, Big Pregg. Preggy, Prague. Big Preggy Bundy.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Fred Khalifa. Taylor Gang, Indiana Preggar. Are you okay? Yeah, I'm just tired. She's pregnant. God damn, Alex. How are you looking at an eight-month pregnant woman that's there? Are you okay?
Starting point is 00:59:41 Are you eight months? She's pregnant. She is pregnant. They're sad. They got to carry around a whole baby all day. Yeah, pregnant. He's fucking pregnant. And men in Atlantic City throwing it back all weekend trying to act like she ain't pregnant.
Starting point is 00:59:54 That's what. You were in Atlantic City throwing it back? That's what it is. Were you in Atlantic City? I saw you dancing on the Graham. When was I dancing? You were corking somewhere. No, Taylor, that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:00:04 You can't be twergin. Working on the fucking Graham in Atlantic City pregnant. Crazy. Why were you even in Atlantic City? Well, I went to Kelsey's. It was my birthday weekend. Oh, happy birthday, Taylor. Happy born-day Taylor.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Happy related birthday, Taylor. Taylor. Show me and still my mom's pocket. What? I paid for it. And you didn't get rid of money. Okay. You stole money from your mom's mom's. Here's thing. I appreciate Taylor's mom's pie.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Thanks. There's nobody who appreciates Taylor's mom's pie more than me. I love it. I think that's fair. And when Taylor's mom walked in the building, the first thing she did was say, I got something for you. She said, I got something for you. So what does that say to me? One of these pies is for me.
Starting point is 01:00:53 The cake and the other pie they can share. The one with the gram cracker crust? That's for Charlotte. And so I took the pie. But he was acting like basically they surprised me. Like my parents and my boyfriend came. First of all, don't say my boyfriend came. Right, my fiancé.
Starting point is 01:01:11 There you go. You're boo, big pee. Okay, shout out the big P. Is this news too? You got fiancé? No, no. I mean, we're in the works of talking about it. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:01:24 I don't know. Dragon Balls, he works like that. You know, once you level, you never use, level it up. Like, let go, yes, your fiancé. It's what happens. No, we know it's going to happen, but until it happens, you know, we got to put that pressure. We got to keep finding that pressure. I'll just say that.
Starting point is 01:01:39 He's a great guy. I love this guy. He's a great guy. Very sweet. I actually feel sorry for him. Because I'm seeing, you know, you meet a guy and he's so great. I'm like, what? God, I guess.
Starting point is 01:01:50 I guess. Taylor? You let him do this every week? It's so crazy because. I know you're putting him through hell. Are you putting him through hell? Be honest. If I was, he wouldn't be here, though.
Starting point is 01:02:01 That's not true. If he's a good guy. Yeah, you guys got a baby. Just had a whole conversation about abused people. Yeah, you could be abused. Wow. I'm nice. We just had a whole conversation about abuse people being in love.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Are you having any, like, pregnancy, like, a lashouts? Did you crash out on him at all? He said, I've had hormones, but whatever. What happened? What did you do with those hormones? Huh? What did you do to this hormonal? He's just being a cancer.
Starting point is 01:02:29 Like, even if I wasn't pregnant, I'll get annoyed. Like what? What happened? Being sensitive? Being emotional? Being caring.
Starting point is 01:02:35 No. That's not it. No. That's not it. No. That's not what I'm complaining about. I'm saying, he was being too nurturing.
Starting point is 01:02:42 No, just little stuff of just being messy. Like what? He'll be trying to take care of you and love on you? You're not. That's what it is. No, I have to claim of your mess. We can't do nothing right, man.
Starting point is 01:02:53 We can't do nothing right. I'm talking about even at this. Dude, like, y'all just be messy sometimes. Oh, you mean, like physically messy? Yeah, that is true. Like leaving stuff around the house? We're hoarders. We don't even like to throw away people.
Starting point is 01:03:04 That's our problem. That's our problem. I'm not even joking. That's our problem. I'm not even joking. That's our problem. Like, that's why I'm glad I have a Sagittarius wife who don't give a fuck. And she just chit up out of here.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Including these people. Okay? Seriously. You got that. You got to have somebody in your life. You need that. Because I'm the same way. You fuck up with me is because you fucked up.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Yep. I'm going to hold on to it until the very end. I'm acting, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's who I am. God damn. But these women don't play games, man. Why do you say, and my son's going to be a cancer tooth.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Woo! Good. You need that in your life. You haven't crashed down on us. You haven't crashed out on us since you've been pregnant. You're so sweet on the pod now that you're pregnant. You used to be angry every fucking week. Why are y'all keep saying that?
Starting point is 01:03:46 You haven't fucked up. You haven't fucked up the clips or anything like that. Usually it takes you 40 minutes to get a clip up. The clips are right up. I'm worried. When you get that one week, maternity leave. That she's going to bring her back to fucking reality. One week. What the fuck she needs a week for?
Starting point is 01:03:59 That's what they say. Nah, just be right here. Yo, I had a girl. I had a woman today, girl. I had a woman at the coffee shop today come up to me. She's like, oh my God, how you doing? She's like, I love your podcast. You and Charlotte a man. White woman in her 40s. When she said, I love your podcast, I was like, what pocket?
Starting point is 01:04:14 And then she goes, well, you're a throttle man. I was like, all right. And then she's like, yeah, I listen to you guys all the time. And she goes, and by the way, did you guys sort that thing out about Taylor and the Maternity? I go, what? Are you lobbying the white woman community to get maternity leave? What is this?
Starting point is 01:04:33 Hey, I'm going to tell you something. When I went to that Mel Robbins show Friday, then white women uplifted me so much. I'm not even going to tell you no lie. Like, there's one white woman walked up to me and said, I want to let you know that you are one of my favorite people and you have been every version of yourself that you have been supposed, that you've been, that you are supposed to be
Starting point is 01:04:54 knew out your whole life. She said you were hard when you're supposed to be hard, soft when you're supposed to be soft and I appreciate every single thing about you. I said, God, dang.
Starting point is 01:05:03 She was flurring with you. Yeah, that's right there. This was an older white woman from Jersey. Why can't you just say? She was just giving me a thomas. That shit was just felt so up-licking you. Not when you were supposed to be soft. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Oh, sure. She told me that she said that I have been every version. She said, I've been every version of me that I have been supposed to be my mom. my whole life. I said, man, thank you. I really appreciate that. I mean, these white women are relentless. They want it. Nothing's going to stop them.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Nothing's going to stop. Nothing's going to stop. Nothing can stop me. I'm all in his butt. Okay. Come on, man. Man, we were... What? What? What? What? What? Listen. What we got shows church announcements? Life on Netflix right now. I'm feeling the... I'm feeling the urge to get back on stage, man. I haven't been back on stage since we put the special out. I'm starting to feel that excitement. I'm starting to feel that buzz a little bit. So I think I might be, I might be in some stages soon. Yeah. Oh shit. Yeah. You got something to talk about? Starting to feel some things. Like, you know, I like taking time off after a special to kind of like
Starting point is 01:06:17 see how my life has changed and hopefully the comedy reflects that. So I'm starting to reflect on it. And yeah, I think I start getting up soon. So yeah, I'm excited about that. Dope. Yeah, dope. My only church announcement, Don Staley, Uncommon Favor, in bookstores now. Okay? Uncommon favor is in bookstores now. In fact, you can check Don out.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Hold on. Don is going to be a couple of places this week. Hold on. Let me pull it up. Let me pull it up. She is going to be Thursday, May 22nd. She'll be at the Barnes & Noble on 5th Avenue at 1 p.m. in New York City.
Starting point is 01:06:56 555 5th Avenue Philly she'll be in Philly on Friday, May 23rd at Enon Tabernacle, 2,800 West Sheltonham Avenue in Philly with Uncle Bobby's Cafe in conversation with Jess Sims. She'll be there at 7 p.m. on
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Starting point is 01:07:37 Now, everywhere you buy books right now, courtesy of Black Privile Publishing, Simon & Schuster. Let's get back to the show. Did you see President Biden announced that he had prostate cancer? Stage four, right? I don't know if they have announced the stage, but I'm assuming it's stage four. They did? Biden has been diagnosed with an aggressive form of prostate cancer. already spread to his bones.
Starting point is 01:07:57 The diagnosis came after Biden began experiencing worsening urinary symptoms. Doctors found a suspicious nodal during a checkup last week. By Friday, test results confirmed prostate cancer with a glistence score of nine. One of the most serious forms and it's already metacized to the bone.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Metastasized. What I said? Metastasized. So, obviously, one, you know, tragic. Sending healing energy. I'm no fan of President Biden, But, you know, for me, it's either you send healing energy or not anything else is... How do you feel about the conspiracies around it saying, how could they not know this and stage four?
Starting point is 01:08:36 I mean, I think it's fair. I'm not a doctor, you know what I'm saying? But that's the first thing I thought. I was like, damn, how do you, how does a president who I would think gets regular checkups, you know, not catch cancer, prostate cancer before it becomes aggressive? Because prostate cancer is one of the most common forms of things they check for. I went to go get a goddamn vasectomy consultation and ended up with a finger in my ass. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:08:59 So I had to call people like, yo, is he just trying to get me? Because I just showed him my dick and he was like, what? You know what I'm like? Yeah. I was like, why does this turn into a prostate exam? But then last week I was getting a regular physical,
Starting point is 01:09:11 a regular annual physical, and they drew my blood for prostate exam. So my point is, it's such a common thing. Especially at his late age. And I mean, I don't know how often presidents get physicals. Or how fast these things spread. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:09:28 It's, I don't know. It just feels like. It feels like this is something that they knew. And then I was also thinking, I'm picking up a great read today. Jake Tapas, the original sin. I'm picking up that book today. And, you know, that book is literally talking about the cover up that occurred with President Biden. Right?
Starting point is 01:09:46 And just like everything that is. So there's a lot of anonymous sources that were in the administration and around D.C. so they're not, you know, take it with a grain of salt, but there's a lot of people who feel like they were covering up a lot of things. By the way, I think it's a little bit hypocritical. I got to read the book first, but I think it's kind of hypocritical for media people like Jake Tap would have come out with books like that. And respect to Jake, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:10:06 I've been on Jake show several times, respect to him. But I think it's just a little bit hypocritical because none of y'all told the truth about President Biden. Exactly. None of y'all. None of you did. And those of us who did got crucified for it. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:10:19 Yep. Nobody was telling us. Like, we were watching the decline of President. Biden for years. 2023 when I was on Daily Show and I think I said Joe Biden should do us the biggest favor and step down. Everybody handed me my ass. I'm like, what are y'all seeing that I'm not seeing?
Starting point is 01:10:32 Because there's a I mean, there's a democratic establishment. We had Bernie on the pod this week. I heard it. He was talking about it. He was saying this exact thing. There was a democratic establishment of a collection of elites that don't want to relinquish that power and they'll do anything that they possibly can to maintain it.
Starting point is 01:10:48 And anything that questions that power, i.e. A media personality going on Daily Show and talking shit about one of the people that they have maintaining that power, they're going to send everything at you. They're going to crucify you. And it was really validating to see it, to be honest with you, or validating for him to hear it. Yeah. And there's no reason for a guy like Bernie to play nice.
Starting point is 01:11:11 I wish he would have called the Democratic Party out way back then. I said that to him. I was like, why didn't you do it? You really let me down. It felt like they stole it from it. And I'll be honest, it broke my heart when you, when you supported them. Look, but you have in the world that I live in, you got a choice. And I mean, a lot of people, including my wife, agree with you.
Starting point is 01:11:31 But, you know, you're down to a choice. Is it going to be Hillary Clinton, or is it going to be Donald Trump? Not a great choice. But it ended up being him anyway, so why don't we burn it down? Well, because it's easy to say, burning it down means that children are not going to have, you know, food to eat, that the schools will deteriorate. People will not have health care. I got it. And I, you know, I'm an elected official.
Starting point is 01:11:53 I'm going to represent the people. That's fair. And I can't turn my back on. But then could we not also say if, ostensibly, there hasn't been a fair primary for the Democrat since 2008. Are they not also a threat to democracy? We often hear. Fair enough.
Starting point is 01:12:06 That is, that is, yeah, I'm not going to argue with that point. And he's like, he's like, I don't want to say distraught, but he's like really bummed as he says it. But he's like, so that was the justification. But like, he was coming at the DNC. And he was. Yeah. is talking about like the different media tactics that they use to smear him.
Starting point is 01:12:25 And he said something in the, and in Flagrant interview, he said corporate media. Like, we're not going to act like these people don't go hand in hand. These are the same people who... And YouTube media is so stupid. They just take the corporate media's talking points now and they just regurgitate them. And they're not even getting paid. They're the same people that would keep a Bernie from arriving to the height he probably should have during 2016 are the same people who come. covered up whatever was going on with Biden.
Starting point is 01:12:53 And then no accountability at all. None. Pretend it didn't happen. None. All these people out of here talking about, oh, Biden, I was just talking to him and he's sharp as attack and all this other shit. And now they're saying, well, it was clearly showing signs of mental decline. That's why I got to read the, I'm interested to read original sin, but one of the main
Starting point is 01:13:10 reasons I'm interested to read it because I want to see if there's any accountability. Yeah. Jake Tappen, one of the biggest guys on CNN, are you going to hold your network accountable. Are you going to hold MSNBC accountable? You know what I'm saying? Are you going to hold these different publications accountable? And if Biden was more mentally fit, but still had cancer, right, early stages of it, would they still have random if they thought that he was going to win? And the answer is yes. And then they would have sidelined him and they would announce the cancer. And then Kamlo would have ended up being president without anybody voting for her.
Starting point is 01:13:45 And this is the exact criticism. We brought it up with Bernie, and he was co-signing it. It was like, the Democratic establishment, whether you like it or not, have not fairly allowed its constituents to democratically elect their person for president. I think it was 0.8. 12 years ago. Yeah. I think President Obama was the last organic one because. Stop calling Trump this autocrat oligarch who's trying to seize power when you have not allowed your constituent.
Starting point is 01:14:15 Well, two things can be true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what I'm saying is maybe stop only doing that, as if you have not allowed us to elect our person for president for 12 years. What's so interesting about what that is, I think Obama, as far as Democrats are concerned, was the last time that the people said, no, that's the guy we want. And Republicans, it was Trump.
Starting point is 01:14:37 100%. The people was like, you know, that would like, like it, I love it. The people were like, that's the guy we want. And that's democracy. But what Bernie was saying is basically, like, there are these people that are controlled. the party and they don't want to relinquish their power and they will do whatever it takes to maintain that power and i think a lot they're doing it again right now what do they don't know if
Starting point is 01:14:54 bernie realized it's not because bernie said on his pocket he said on flagrant that uh you know you asked him if he's going to run again he's like i'm eighty three yeah like it's not going to happen but so there's people that are watching the crowds that him and aOC are commanding right now and you can see the organic groundswell that's happening and there's already pushback as if he's going to run again in 2020. It's already people putting it out there like, no, we can't have any more old white men, you know, run for president.
Starting point is 01:15:24 Like, they're already putting that out there. I'm like, y'all making the same mistake again. Now, do I think Bernie is going to run in 2008? No, because of age. Yes. But what I say, when I say making the same mistake, once again, you're getting in the way of people in their organic wants.
Starting point is 01:15:39 You're getting in the way of people in their organic needs. They're saying, this is what we want. Now, it don't have to be Bernie, but it can be the embodiment of what Bernie believes in, the embodiment of what AOC believes in. Clearly, that's what people want. But the establishment doesn't want that because then they have to stop, you know, letting pharmaceutical companies do whatever the fuck they want. They have to stop letting health care companies do whatever the fuck they want. They have to stop the military industrial complex from pushing up to us into wars that we don't want. And the Democrats are 100% willing to do it. There was a question I wanted to ask
Starting point is 01:16:12 Bernie, but essentially it's like, is the difference between the Democrats or Republicans this? It's like, they both want money from Big Pharma, they both want money from these billion-dollar corporations, they both want, are willing to accept control, and then the Democrats are just like let people use whatever bathroom they want. Is that the only difference? I don't think, no, I think the difference is Democrats act like there's something they're not. Right. And now people are seeing... Democrats do all of those things. You just say. And then when we see through it,
Starting point is 01:16:45 they go, people go, oh, you're just some fucking right-wing maniac. It's like, oh, is that the case? Is everybody who disagrees with you a right-wing maniac? That's why they virtue signal so much. They virtue signal to distract you from the fact we're doing the same shit. We're just doing those communities
Starting point is 01:16:57 that you say you care about. Yeah. You use those communities that you say you care about as a smokescreen so you could keep on taking the same money from Big Pharma, keep on taking the same money from the health care companies. Keep on taking the same money from the military companies. Like, stop the bullshit.
Starting point is 01:17:11 The internet is a, available to people. We can Google things. You can't lie like you could before with the protection of the corporate media. That's right. It's seen through. You have to have a different mode that you can play. And don't tell me you're an ally of the LGBTQ community if you won't even let somebody put a finger in your butt.
Starting point is 01:17:26 Facts. I check that prostate. Facts. There's a doctor who said a doctor was on Morning Joe. He said he worked with Biden. The doctor who worked with Biden says he had cancer for years. He said either they didn't test for it, which proved my point.
Starting point is 01:17:41 or they didn't report it. Which one is it? Which one is it? And don't the people have a right to know these things? I would think so. And by the way, everybody knows Biden was supposed to be a transitional president. Here's the thing. Biden's legacy, I saw Biden on the viewing everything a couple of weeks ago.
Starting point is 01:17:57 God bless them. There's nothing you can do, Biden. Your legacy is what it is. You were supposed to be a transitional president, and I don't know if it was because of ego or what, you decided no, you wanted them running. and that's why we're in the situation we're in now. Simple as that.
Starting point is 01:18:16 Now, I don't know if any other Democrat could have beat Trump, but I know that, you know, you could have at least gave somebody more time to attempt. Give somebody a chance. You know what I'm saying? You could have gave somebody more time to attempt. And guess what? If you knew you had prostate cancer, that's the perfect thing. That is crazy.
Starting point is 01:18:34 I'm 80-some years old. I just got diagnosed with prostate cancer. I'm a transitional president. I'm just, I'm here for a good time, not along. time. Okay, so Democrats, y'all figure it out. Now you can go get your best candidates, have primaries, all of that other stuff, and maybe the world looks a little bit different right now. I just don't, I don't get it. Like, I think that people want to love the Democratic Party, and they seem to be doing the things that stop people from loving. I don't think nobody
Starting point is 01:18:58 wants to love any party. I think people want the ideals that somebody like a Bernie Sanders speaks about, and Republicans tapped into that this election. Absolutely. All they did was speak to the things that people want. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, like, it's not complicated. People want more money in their pocket and they want to feel safe and secure. If you can make people feel that, you got them. I don't think it matters what the party is. This is why I really think Republicans are dropping the ball. Republicans are dropping the ball because if they just dialed back to corruption, if they just dialed back the authoritarian rule and governed, like, people with some goddamn sense, everybody would be loving to Republicans. Everybody would be
Starting point is 01:19:39 fluffing the Republican Party right now. Top down and their top guy is all about the corruption. That's my point. But you would have people in a chokehold for years. But they might already have that. I don't know, bro. They think they got it. They at least think they do.
Starting point is 01:19:57 When I look at the approval ratings, all I see is a bunch of people who are fed up with everything. Democrats approval ratings in the toilet. Trump's approval ratings in the toilet. Republicans are approval ratings in the toilet. That lets me know America's just fed up with it all. Yeah. So then when you're fed, you go.
Starting point is 01:20:11 Do you think you need to improve your team when the other team is shitty? A good point? But that don't mean you're good. I know, but don't matter. If you lose, you got to improve your team. Every time you lose, you got to improve. No, I'm talking about the Republicans don't need to do anything. Because the Democrats aren't doing anything threatening to them.
Starting point is 01:20:27 And I think people are so disillusioned. Listen, unions refuse to endorse the Democratic Party. Okay. I'm curious Chris's take on this. Some of the unions endorse Trump. If the Democratic Party cannot win the vote of union workers, what are they here for? Yeah, what's your audience? If the Democratic Party cannot win the vote of union workers, who do they represent?
Starting point is 01:20:57 They don't have a base right now, and that's the biggest problem. Because, no, I think they did. I'm about to say, what the hell, Chris? I think they got two, I think they, I think, yeah, I think you're right. right, Chris, they don't have a base, but I think that they have too many people that they try to appease at once. Right. Someone's going to have to come up who's an asshole, who's going to have to tell certain portions of the Democratic Party at different times. That's right. I don't care. I don't care. For the greater good. We need housing. You're right. Yo, Bernie says some wild shit. We
Starting point is 01:21:30 Bernie said some wild shit on the pod. He goes, uh, he goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, there's a lot of this identity politics. It's like, I'm black. I'm great. I'm gay. I'm the best person in the best person of the world. He goes, who cares if you're gay? Are you a good person? What do you believe in? Yeah. Yes. That's really, that's what it's about. It's a tough moment. I mean, if you're a Democrat, there's no question. It's not, if you're being honest, it's only tough if you're still trying to bullshit people, Chris.
Starting point is 01:21:55 It's not tough if you honest. You can't build a house in California. You just have to, you have to reckon with that. You cannot build a house in California. And in Houston, Texas, they're building houses half as expensive. five times as fast. You cannot build a railway in California. That's not because of...
Starting point is 01:22:14 Both of those houses are going to be underwater in 10 years. All right, but that railway in California is not because of what Republicans are holding up. There are no Republicans elected in those positions that are holding it up in California. That is 100% on the policies that the Democrats have suggested in that state. At a certain point in time, you need to at least look in the mirror and go, what are we doing that stopping our citizens from getting the necessary infrastructure that they need to thrive in this country. And if you just keep on going,
Starting point is 01:22:42 oh, Republicans bad, we're not talking about the country. We're talking about the state with the democratically elected officials that cannot get a railway built, that have this horrible homelessness problem, that do not have houses for people to not even buy rent.
Starting point is 01:22:59 You're right, but the homelessness problem, is a Republican problem. Started with Ronald Reagan in the 80s. Ronald Reagan. The empty of mentalists. Absolutely. Okay, but when I say homelessness, I don't just mean the crazies.
Starting point is 01:23:09 I mean the actual people that are like in flux. Like the people who cannot afford to rent places because there's all these crazy zoning laws that restrict people from building two person, what a household or whatever they're called,
Starting point is 01:23:22 four person household. You can't even build out there and it's not like there's not room. A lot of that deregulation happened under Reagan though. No, no. There's more regulation that's stopping it.
Starting point is 01:23:30 Like they basically have zoned these areas where you're only allowed to build a one, what is it called, one family home or something like that. And then when you do that, you just don't, don't have, one, you just don't have the homes that fit the people. One, and then two, there is all this other space and they're not, developers are not willing to go through the gambit
Starting point is 01:23:46 of bullshit you need to develop in the first place. There's a certain point in time, you just need to have a little reflection. You can shit on Republicans for all you want, and that is fair. You're allowed to do that, and you're allowed to say you have better ideas, and I hope those ideas, if they are better, they thrive. But there has to be a little reflection to go, what can we serve the people better with. I agree. And you know what the reflection is, and Bernie said it on flagrant. Everybody's the fucking blame. You're saying a Democrat thing. It's not a Republican thing.
Starting point is 01:24:11 Exactly. This is government has failed the people. We live in a capitalist society where you've got all of these motherfuckers with all the wealth. Elon Musk has more wealth than 50, more than half of the bottom of America? Yeah. Like, come on. Like, there's no way we live in a society that claims to be the most wealthiest society on the planet and we can't fix homelessness. Well, in that case, the Democrats pivot should be to go more socialist.
Starting point is 01:24:36 Yeah. Which I'm fine with. Yes. They should. That's what everybody's saying. That's what everybody's saying. Because the Republican solution to what you just described is going to be deregulate everything. Deregulation.
Starting point is 01:24:49 There's no question that by deregulating and everything, it puts those billion-dollar corporations in the position to increase profits, right? Because they're going to be the ones that swoop in, and they're going to be ones to do all that development, and they reap the rewards of that. That being said, people need a home. We cannot deny that. People need a place to live.
Starting point is 01:25:06 And if there aren't enough places to live for people, one, there to start moving out of your state, which is a big fucking problem. I think California has lost almost 300,000 people not in total. I mean, not 300,000 moved, meaning 300,000 people less are living there than they were last year. That's a big, that's a big, you know, after COVID, New York had a big, had a lot of people who we moved to do. New York isn't affordable, you know, the biggest issue in New York City right now. It's our climate stuff is housing, housing. Housing, we need housing. So something needs to happen.
Starting point is 01:25:36 You have in Midtown right now, you have hundreds of, probably millions of square feet of these office buildings that are not being used because people are not going to the office. Convert them to residential, but they won't do it because there's all this bullshit red tape. Say again. Zoning. The zoning is, and it's just like you have to, look, Governor Shapiro in Pennsylvania, right? There was that bridge that kind of like gut burned down or something like that. Rebuilt it in 12 days. How do you do it?
Starting point is 01:26:03 With the Emergency Act. So he got to wipe away all the red tape. He already acknowledged if they had to do it through the traditional system that they have there, it would take 12 to 18 months. What the fuck is going on? Yo, Governor Shapiro, when you're pulling up the flagrant, yo. Yo, we might need to talk to him. Get rid of all the shit.
Starting point is 01:26:21 No, I told him. Governor Shapiro is... Here's the thing. The governors are the ones to watch. Because the governors are the people that you can look at and see what they're doing in their state. And what they're doing in their state is probably, if they ever got into the position of probably as president, they would do on a national level,
Starting point is 01:26:35 which is why Gavin Newsom don't stand a fucking chance. There you go. I don't know why the fuck he even is playing with people. All right. Okay, we all love Cali, all right? Yeah. And we've all seen what you've done to Cali. No, beat it, right?
Starting point is 01:26:48 Governor Shapiro, he's cooking. He's cooking. I told Bernie to, I said, listen, you talk about the importance of universal health care. I go, do it in Vermont. If you could prove that the state of Vermont can provide universal health care for its citizens,
Starting point is 01:27:04 do you not think that there would be a trickle-down effect, not trickle-down like in terms of trickle-down and economics, whatever, but literally like the people in New York are going, hold on, we have all this wealth and they're not paying anything for health care? Why the fuck are we paying for health care? And what he said is, well, yes, that would be awesome,
Starting point is 01:27:20 but you have these health care companies that are lobbying daily to fight that idea. They're telling you, oh, Bernie's going to increase your taxes. And then he said this shit, he goes, yes, your taxes are going to go up. You might pay six grand more in taxes, but now your health care bill is zero. So you went from paying $12,000 a year in health care to zero,
Starting point is 01:27:39 but you're paying $6,000 more in taxes, so you just save $6,000. Brough. Like... The pharmaceutical companies will hire their own, God damn, Luigi. They'll go get a Mario or somebody. I'm serious.
Starting point is 01:27:50 They'll go get a motherfucking Mario and tell Mario, hey, go take out that elected official that's causing our fucking money to get fucked up. Mark asked him on the pot. Mark goes, yo, does anybody... I heard him. And then he goes, I'd rather not to talk about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:02 It's actually, yeah. That's a great idea, right? Like, you take a state, like, what's a state that has popular, maybe Alabama or some of these Gulf states where, you know, people have left, Russ Belt, what have you. Institute universal health care. People, I would consider moving to one of those states if there was universal health care and it was quality, right?
Starting point is 01:28:23 What's the difference? I can get the internet in fucking Alabama. I wonder what state, there's only a couple states that could afford that, though. Probably like Cali and New York are probably the only states that can actually afford it. Every state can afford it. Bro, it worked with what they- Not without federal assistance.
Starting point is 01:28:36 It worked with weed, bro. Remember when we became legal and what was it, Colorado first? Yep. How many more states legalized it afterwards when they saw how much money Colorado was making off the legal weed? Now, obviously that has changed
Starting point is 01:28:48 and maybe they're not making as much money as they were, but it still starts this momentum in a certain direction where they're like, hold on, how much money they're making off of it? All right, let's legalize this shit. I would tell me, how states would pay for you know, because I don't see how states would pay it.
Starting point is 01:29:02 You would probably have to raise taxes a little bit. Yeah, you raise taxes. Think about the amount of people that we have in New York, for example. You raised taxes a little bit and all that money goes towards health care.
Starting point is 01:29:09 But that's what I'm saying? New York, California, different bees. What about a place like Alabama? Let me throw something at you, right? Universal health care. In the state, right? Your taxes are raised, right?
Starting point is 01:29:23 But your employer no longer has to pay for your health care. So if your employer has some integrity, what he does is increases your wage. that wage could offset that. Also, businesses might move to your state knowing they don't have to cover their employees. So now it's cheaper to go operate out of your state.
Starting point is 01:29:44 Plus, we talked about the sports teams. Oh. Suppose a state just say, you know what? Colorado, we're not underwriting the Broncos. Or if we do, we want equity in it. So now the money that the Broncos generate goes back into the state, starts to pay off some of these things. And universal health care.
Starting point is 01:30:03 the payer decides how much that particular medical service is worth or what we're going to pay for it, and that's it. So it's like we, they will, the states will determine what we're going to pay out instead of the hospital charging like $300 for Band-Aid or something like that. What do you think the top 10 states for health care are? Meaning the- Massachusetts maybe number one. Massachusetts, too. Okay.
Starting point is 01:30:26 I'd say California's up there. Hawaii is number one. Interesting. Massachusetts, two, Connecticut three, Minnesota, four, Rhode Island, five. Vermont is six. New Hampshire 7, Maryland, 8, Washington 9, California number 10. Honorable mention,
Starting point is 01:30:41 Colorado, and New York and Oregon. It's just one of those things where it's like, so many people have these incredibly strong opinions about things. We've built a whole podcast off of it and not really knowing anything or how it works. But we call ourselves brilliant idiots. We acknowledge it. Yes.
Starting point is 01:30:56 What politician is going to come out to say they're an idiot? You know what I mean? That is true. You got 1,500 lobbyists. in D.C. right now fighting tooth and nail to make sure that this does not happen in any state. Because they know if it
Starting point is 01:31:09 happens in one, it's going to happen in five. And if it happens in five, it happens in 15. By the way, that is the problem with all of these guys. The senators, the congressman, whoever, it's, all you got to do is just follow the money, baby. You know what I mean? Why can't a proper gun reform get passed? Go look and see who's funding the Senate.
Starting point is 01:31:25 How much money is the NRA and other gun lobbyists contributed to their motherfucking campaign? Why you can't get good health care? Go look and see how many of these big pharmaceutical companies are contributing to these people's campaigns. Follow the fucking money. A lot of times they can hide it with the SuperPacks. No, you can still follow the money with the Superfax.
Starting point is 01:31:41 I did a whole movie about it. It's called 88, available on Hulu right now. That was a good movie. That's up. Anyway. Listen, I've been out here working a little bit, man. You know what I'm saying? Minding my business, staying low.
Starting point is 01:31:50 You know what I mean? Everybody thinks that the things that I'm doing is new, but I'm just out here, minding my business a little bit, you know? Let's do some asking idiots, Taylor. We got any ads? You know, Donald Trump Jr. You saw what he said about Biden, to? What he said? He said
Starting point is 01:32:04 a lot. Some people are super insensitive though. Insensitive, yeah. Insensitive, yeah. But it's like even if that's not your guy it's still somebody. If you're going to be insensitive, at least be smart about it. Like Donald Trump Jr.
Starting point is 01:32:20 Retweeted, hold on, what did he say? Hold on. You got the post? Okay, let me read the tweet. Donald Trump Jr. took shots at Jill Biden's family. Okay. He said, what I want to know is, how did Dr. Jill Biden miss stage five?
Starting point is 01:32:41 What's that word? Metastatic. Where is it? Metastatic cancer. Or is this yet another cover up? Well, first of all, she's not a medical doctor. She's an educational doctor. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:54 Piper Don. He might have missed a couple days. Listen, she's an educational doctor. That's unnecessary. She missed it because she's not a medical doctor. And number two, there's no such thing in stage five cancer. It's unnecessary.
Starting point is 01:33:07 Yeah, it's unnecessary. It's just, come on. These people are going to help. By the way, he could have just retweeted the doctor. The doctor he retweeted actually said something smart. He wasn't even insulting about it. He just basically was like, yo,
Starting point is 01:33:21 he feels like they must have been known Biden had cancer, blah. What was the tweet that Don retweeted? Let me read that, Taylor. Is it on there? If you can find the Don. On tweet is probably there. You can find it done.
Starting point is 01:33:39 It doesn't fucking matter. Yeah, my point, yeah, either send them healing energy or don't say anything at all. You know what I'm saying? Now, you can have, the conversation is a valid conversation to have. How long did they know? Are they covering this up? You know, but you don't got to mock them.
Starting point is 01:33:53 You don't have to take a tax to the guy who's already dying. Nah, no, no, no. But I think that question that this doctor asked on more than Joe is valid. Absolutely. that they didn't test him, are they covered it up? One and the two. I'm upset.
Starting point is 01:34:07 Taylor, what's up? We got some asking idiots, Taylor, gang. Shout out to McDonald's, man. That commercial looks fucking tasty. Unbelievable. You had nothing. Taylor, we got to get some asking idiots going. Okay, but they might ask.
Starting point is 01:34:19 One day you're going to understand. Taylor, why do you hate us? No, I'm just saying the injury thing. We got any more ads? We got any more ads? Yeah. What do we got? I saw the injuries.
Starting point is 01:34:28 I was watching the game. First of all, salute to the WNBA because it was perfect programming. One of the first games of the season, Indiana Fever versus Chicago Sky. Got to do it. You know what you're going to get with that.
Starting point is 01:34:43 Everybody performed. Caitlin went out there and got a triple doubles. She went out there and patted her stats. I only had none of y'all complaining about Angel Reese patting her stats no more. Caitlin Clark was on the bench, told the coach, hey, I'm one rebound away from a triple double. Put me back in. Give me that.
Starting point is 01:34:56 And she went in there and got her triple double. Get her rebounds. That's what I'm talking about. a triple double, Angel had 12 and 17. The Feevo are going to win it all at you. In the end, the people are going to win it all this year. Their team is incredible. But it was the perfect thing for the WNBA.
Starting point is 01:35:09 They had a little kerfuffle. You need a little curfuffle. It was great. We need some excitement. We like it. It was great. We need the bird versus magic, man. Listen, Caitlin, Angel has been the best storyline in women's basketball
Starting point is 01:35:21 and probably the most important storyline in women's basketball in the last four years. Amen. It brought attention to the college game and it went to the pros. Amen. Hey, what's up? I just hate the racial aspect of it. Like, everybody's trying to make it that. Okay, well, racial aspect.
Starting point is 01:35:38 Angel Reese pushed the black player on the fever. Caitlin got her friends back. Pushed Angel Reese. Didn't push it, but gave her a nice little foul. Boom, great. Angel jumped up, as bad most people doing it's a hard foul. Wanted to have some words with her. Leah Boston, a black woman, said, get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 01:35:56 Protecting my teammate. Done. All right, let's do some out of it. Andre the Outlaw says, have you ever seen something uncanny that you can't explain? Don't get Charlotte Starved. Do you live? Do you wake up every day? Do you motherfucking open your eyes?
Starting point is 01:36:11 Every day of my life, I'm seeing something uncanny that I can't explain. By the way, let me tell you something. Scroll back up and me see his name. Andre the Outlaw, let me tell you something. You don't appreciate life. This world we live in is something uncanny that we can't explain. None of us can really explain how any of this shit works. We're on a fucking ball that's spinning in the motherfucking middle of space
Starting point is 01:36:34 that Galactus might come and snack on at some point. We don't know anything about this shit for real. We live on a planet that's 75% water. They don't even know what the fuck's really going on in the ocean. This life is uncanny. It's crazy. I don't know how phones work. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:36:50 What the fucking Wi-Fi? What is gluten? Right. And why is it free? But you've got to pay for the Wi-Fi. What the fuck is Wi-Fi? I don't know. Where does she come from?
Starting point is 01:37:02 I don't know. That's my point. All of this shit is uncandy. Come on, man. It took two different species to make one of us and then you just pick it a litter. It's a man, it's a woman, and then we come out.
Starting point is 01:37:14 It's the same species. We don't know that. We don't know that, man. Women are from- The way they act. Exactly. You know? You can't have babies.
Starting point is 01:37:22 How you know the same species? You can't get pregnant right now. You don't bleed every fucking month. that we know of. This motherfucker. Next question. I'm just saying. I'm just saying that butt fuck 69.
Starting point is 01:37:35 Hey, hey. Okay. Zach O'Pio says, do we still think Trump is working towards the plan of making America great? Yeah. 100%. I don't think he gives a fuck. Yeah. I disagree.
Starting point is 01:37:52 I think that, you know, the Trumps are going to come out super clean and super, super wealthy. The whole of America. I don't think anybody cares about the whole of America. Yeah. I don't believe that. I think Bernie does. I don't think he cares about the hole. Bernie doesn't.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Exactly. Bernie don't give a fuck about the billionaires. Exactly. Bernie don't give a fuck about you billionaires and you corporations. Or maybe he does. Maybe he's just simply saying, yo, y'all can get your money. Right. Well, let's make this shit a little bit fairer for everybody.
Starting point is 01:38:21 You know, maybe, you know, but, man, it's hard to care about everybody, bro. Which is the problem. with the Democratic Party. It's being a big ten party is something is difficult. It's difficult. Oh, the Rico Graham says, what do you think the worst vice you can indulge in as of now?
Starting point is 01:38:40 Oh, it's got to be fentanyl or heroin. Um, yeah. It's food. It's what we eat. Oh, processed food. You know, you might be right about that one. We can do about it, Bill. You're starving.
Starting point is 01:38:53 That's the fucked up thing. The first thing I'm doing. What can we do? You can do a lot to avoid it. You just have to read. read every label as possible, but you can't. Man, if you come from a certain environment, man, you don't have the luxury.
Starting point is 01:39:05 Because eating healthy is a luxury. Once you taste it, bro. It's so good. Yeah, but you can make an effort as well. You can make an effort, and I'll tell you one thing, boy, you do know the difference. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know the fucking difference.
Starting point is 01:39:18 When you have, like, fresh vegetables and stuff? Man, I went to a restaurant in New York this week. That shit was so fresh. Last week, that shit was good as a motherfucker. Which was it? I don't know if I want to give him free promo, but the C-fire. grill.
Starting point is 01:39:30 I don't know. That shit was good to the motherfucker on. 48th Street. If you go to Spain, you'll notice it. Of course. Out the country,
Starting point is 01:39:37 don't even count. The ass tastes different out the country. Let's go. Scroll up, Taylor. What else we got? Charlie Marxiano says, is there one
Starting point is 01:39:48 ultimate truth or is it all based on perspective? Ooh. Go to Terracotta. If you go to Spain, you'll fucking love it. It's probably one of the best restaurants, I think,
Starting point is 01:39:57 in the world. Tara cock in your mouth you fucking I'm looking I'm like you're not getting me with that one okay Andrew why you were so late with it
Starting point is 01:40:12 because he couldn't believe it he thought I was going to fall for that shit he was like well I got to shoot I can shoot God damn it all right somebody's about to get hit okay he's a sniper he was sitting on the roof
Starting point is 01:40:25 he's like I'm here to do a job I'm here to do a job But you know what? He's a guy like spent his junior year in Spain or something. That's right. He's good. It's good, man. Charlie Maxiano, is there one ultimate truth or is it all based on perspective?
Starting point is 01:40:41 Yes, I believe there is one ultimate truth, but we don't know it. But being that we don't know it, all we have is perspective. I truly believe that. There's one ultimate universal truth about everything. It's world that we live in, how we got here, everything. But we don't know what it is. So being that we don't know what it is, we just all have different perspectives.
Starting point is 01:41:02 I like that. I think that's, yeah, I like that a lot. You're not Christian? Huh? You're not Christian? Uh-uh. Oh, I thought you were.
Starting point is 01:41:12 Uh-uh. The word is written on his heart, bro. Even if he don't know. I'm a believer in God. Even if he don't know. It's already written there. I believe in God. That's it.
Starting point is 01:41:21 Scroll up to double. Dot E. Great question. This is double. dot u.b33 says you think Diddy ever blasted off in his own mouth? Yes.
Starting point is 01:41:34 Absolutely. Absolutely. You gotta try it. You come on, man. When you're that freaky? I haven't tried it. I don't have that type of height on my shit, but you don't think he ever just went,
Starting point is 01:41:46 bah. Come on, man. You know what I mean? Like SeaWorld? You don't think he jumped out the water like SeaWorld? Yeah, so you don't invent the remix without sampling. You got a sample? You got a sample.
Starting point is 01:41:57 Don't you got a sample? That's how you invent the remix. It's sampling. All that shit is sampling. I want a little bit of your nut. Let me rub it on my nipple. You know, I'm going to get a little bit of your nut. Rub it on my niple.
Starting point is 01:42:07 Right. You get a little bit of my nut. Taste it. Oh, okay. Mm-hmm. I know what. Huh? Wait.
Starting point is 01:42:14 What? What? No? Nah. I taste in my own pee by accident. All the reason I'm saying that is... Stop the hell of the hell of a girl. She swallows.
Starting point is 01:42:26 No. No. No, no, no, no, that's a big difference, okay? If you're fucking... We don't kiss you after you swallow it. You gotta have like a Dr. Pepper or something to kill that shit. If UMP was in Philly and he ate a Philly cheese steak, you know what I'm saying? And he was still chewing.
Starting point is 01:42:41 And then you kissed him while he was still chewing. And he had the Philly cheesecake chilling his mouth and he didn't swallow. That's different. Yo, that is... Kipped it after they swallow? No. That's genius, Joe. No.
Starting point is 01:42:51 Why do girls want to kiss us while still in your mouth? Who? Girls want to do that. Territ. We call him terrorists. But that's a great point. You would never kiss somebody while they were eating anything.
Starting point is 01:43:05 No. Why? That's a great point. I think there's some shit that women do just to see if he loved me. Yeah, but what? All they may go do that smelly old BV. And the pot, you know, that shit almost.
Starting point is 01:43:19 That shit was insane what he just did. No. Oh. After you eat a girl out, she'd go to, to kiss you. Help. I do got a little BV. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:43:33 That's you, boo. You got to look at her and say. That's you, boo. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast,
Starting point is 01:43:43 and you think we're just a couple of idiots who don't know shit you're right, too. It's a brilliant idiot's podcast. Thank you for listening. You're crazy, bro.

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