The Brilliant Idiots - Black Curl Magic (Ft. Mouse Jones & Akaash Singh)

Episode Date: December 3, 2021

This week Schulzy had guest Mouse Jones and Akaash fill in and give their brilliant but idiotic opinions on different topics as Charlamagne was away. They spoke on the “Black Lives Matter” movement, and found who the real supporter of the movement is. They also spoke on the different curl textures in the black community, such as 4c,4b but after 3C it’s a completely different race. Moreover, they also give their take on marriage and how the white woman possibly took advantage of it all. Get Your tickets to Wax's, "Bully and the Beast" Live Show Go to eventbrite.com and search Bully and The Beast Live Show Tha Gods Honest Truth merch www.cthashow.myshopify.com Head Over to www.theandrewschulz.com for Andrews latest tour info. Head to www.blackeffect.com to check all the podcasts on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's so stupid. It's positively brilliant. What's up, everybody and welcome to The Brilliant Idiot's Podcast. This episode has been brought to you by Squarespace, from websites and online stores to marketing tools and analytics. Squarespace is the all-in-one platform to build a beautiful online presence and run your business. There are no hidden fees or price hikes, and all websites are optimized for mobile.

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We have Mouse Jones, everybody. Mouse Jones is here. Yeah. Okay. Big, big, big, big, big, big, big fan of Mouse Jones, friend of the podcast. family member even. We also have Akash Singh in the building. Yeah.

Hey, hey, hey, hey. We are here. Wax and Charlemagne are on vacation or some shit. Where are they at, Taylor? Shalmaine's on vacation. Wax still got COVID? No, he just couldn't make it. He just couldn't make it.

Okay, well, that's great that he has his priorities. That he has his priorities straight. There's just no excuse we couldn't lie. There's nothing else that we could do. We can make up to make him look a little better. Aren't you supposed to be the producer? He doesn't have COVID. He doesn't have COVID.

It's done. All right. That's all we care about. We would have much rather than have COVID. Listen, guys, we're here, and we've got a lot of things going this week. But first, I just want to check in with Mouse, man. It's great to see you, Doug. It's been a while.

I see you back on the road. It's nice to see. Yes, yes. It's fun place to be. 100%. Are we going to talk about your outfit, or are we just going to move on? We're here. What's going on here?

Does you wear this because you knew you were going to be in a comfortable place with me? Yeah, I figured. I figured, listen, Andrew dress is very comfortable. Is this appropriation? Yes. Are you appropriating Farmer culture? My culture.

Not your culture. It's really not my culture. I'm closer to it than you. Oh, that's true. I'm a Texan. That's a Texan. And an Indian. Mad farmers in India.

100%. We got to support fully. Yes. I just want to feel at home. You just want to feel at home. Okay, well, you're here. Well, if you listen to the podcast, Mouse came here,

addresses Kyle Rittenhouse. He said, Kyle Ried Mousers in the motherfucking building. And somehow killing it. I got to check out one of your shows, man. I always text you and I see the videos on Instagram. Videos are wild. Yeah, it's just crazy, man.

You guys got the best job in the business. Listen, I do a job that nobody in the world could do. Okay. Like, there's a lot of hosts. Well, I don't even think this host anymore. Uh-huh. And I know it's going to sound like bragging, but hey, Taylor. Taylor, you have one job.

We're recording a podcast. You have one fucking. job, Taylor. Okay. Didn't know if you knew we were doing a podcast. Yeah. So I do a job

nobody else could do, right? When it comes to hosting Yeah. That's debatable. Anybody... No, no, no. Nobody can do. I'm going for the explanation.

Yeah, I can do what I do. Okay. Tell me why. Not hosting. Anybody can get on... I don't even think anybody. Some people can get on stage and get through a show,

bring up other people. Yeah. I do a job that nobody else could do because it doesn't matter if I host a party. It doesn't matter if I host an event. fashion show, whatever you want to call it, the time I'm on stage,

it's going to feel like a show just for that person. Just for that person. It doesn't matter who. It's literally impossible for you to try and encapsulate and have anybody else do it. Really?

You will have people looking stupid. Really? Why is that? Because from the outside, it seems like you do a great job. There's no question, but I feel like there are people that could do it. Like, throughout history, there's no more people that are good. Where the host go?

That's a great. point. And open mics, comedy shows making, you know, $12 a night or whatever. This host is my point. Yeah, but they might not have the skill, though. I guess that's what you said. No, like I said at the beginning is they, do the people know what you do? That's a good question.

Maybe we should explain. I've seen the clips. Yeah. But what do you do that elevates the experience for everybody else? Or even let's first talk about the experience so people aren't confused. So I'm the host of the greatest show on Earth Trap Karaoke. Yeah. Where I guess before I got there, it was just a show sent to the run.

around black people being able to have a karaoke space where you can come up and sing your favorite songs, right? There's no way, you know, you go to your normal karaoke ball. Or that spot, Gators or something in Williamsburg, you go there and you want to hear back that ass up. You're not, they don't have those songs in there. Right? So, you know, the creator of trap karaoke,

create a space where you can sing these songs. And I quite honestly... It's black karaoke. Yeah. It is black karaoke. It's a space where we get to celebrate our culture. are legends in the way that we want to do it. So when I get there, I came on February, March of 2019.

The show had already been going on for like probably five years at that point. Yeah. I get there and now it's completely different. It's crazy. Because when I get there, it's like, okay, so that's how you were doing it. Yeah. Let me show you how to fill these pockets. Uh-huh.

Because if not, what's the difference between that and any other party? Mm-hmm. Where you're just playing music. That's it, right? You're a party. You got four hours. hours, you buy your ticket, you're going to drink, and you're going to listen to music. You could go anywhere to do that.

When I'm on that stage, now it's, I'm talking directly to you about something that you're like, you was there too, and then you look to your left and you look to your right and you see other people and you're like, y'all was there too? Yeah. And I just do a job, I do a great job and remind you that we all kind of grew up together. We experienced the world together. So you have like bits that go with the songs and people are trying to sing. Absolutely.

Got you. And these are like stories that are. stories, call and response. So, per example, and I'm going to tell it, I'm going to tell this one, and if we see other people doing it, or the way we know where it came from. So I do this one where I get the crowd really hype, right? And I say, after I get a real hype, I say, I shout out the women. I say black women.

I need you to make some noise. Taylor, let's do it right now. Let's reenact it right now. You want to do it, Taylor? Do we need to give you a song? Let's do it. No, he got this. Okay, go, go, go, go.

I'm black women, too. The two of us are in this together Let's go. Come on, come on, let's do this. I'm hyped this. It's trapped karaoke. I'm hyped up. I'm ready to sing. Let's go.

Come on. I say black women. Black women. Make some noise. And of course, they're going to make noise. Make some noise. Hey! Taylor, you're going to leave a song?

Yes. He's a black woman. Me too. Women. Black women. Come on. Whoa. So like I said, so with the black woman, I say, you know, black woman makes some noise.

And they make noise. And then I say, I bring up a whole bunch of things that they would know. I'd be like, you know, make some noise, you know, fat black women, skinny black women, big booty, little booties, because, you know, little booty matter. They pop. Yeah. Then it's, then from next to now, you're just building them. You're building them.

You're building them. And I'm like, you know, I'm talking about the four C to three C, the four eight, four, three C, three B. That's the hair types. So now they're like, oh, this nigga knows us. Wait, what is that? That's the hair types. Look, your curl pattern. Oh, what does Taylor have?

Can you guess just by the way? Well, I can't tell because she has a, what's the sewing? Yeah. Yeah. So she had sewing, so I can't really see what her meek millies are like. You're a four C. You're a four C. Okay. So that's the most coarse.

So that's the tightest curl. Oh, okay. So once I... Oh, they, oh, the natural curl. Yeah. They have a rating system. Oh, dude, I can't wait to use this. Hold on.

Oh, this bit is stolen, mouse. Now that's that to give me all the details for the black world going to show. Okay. Now, but if I get it wrong, that's fucked up. Oh, that's why. That's why. What's your beard? My beard, so my beard, I'm going to say, is more of a 4A going into 3C.

4A, 3C. Yeah. Wow, this is crazy. So, like, black women's hair is like bras and shit. Because black people, it's all hair, all hair has a curl pattern. Yeah, but white people, we don't have different types of hair. And white people got curly hair too. Y'all are one-air.

No, you have, I'm a Jewish. No. I mean, I'm an A. A is the more fine, yeah, I'm a one-A. The least. One-A. Yeah, one-age. What is Squid Game?

Cast a squid game. What goes before A? Yeah, they're not on there. They're not on the map. They might be just double numbers. Yeah. Like a 1-1-1. They only get the left.

See, she's warming up. Now's good. She's warming up. Now she's getting on board. Stop doing work, Taylor. You have work. Okay? Stop doing work and work.

Focus on this. All right. Go watch Bullying the Beast podcast. Boom. I did it. Okay. Everybody go check out Bullying the Beast. these podcasts and they got a live show.

Make sure you check that shit out. We all go to be in there. All right, you know what I mean? With the three Cs, the two Ds. No, those are tities. Those are two. One is it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

The four C, four B, the four A. Okay. C, three B, three A. Now, anything past that, that's, it's not us. What is that? It's white people. Oh, really? Yeah, there's this room.

This, this, it's for the room. This is, this is for the room. I think is what she told me. Because I remember having to try to try to, figure this out one time and I was like, I don't know. I'll believe it. You bought your wife here? No, sure.

No, they buy our hair. They buy our hair. Don't get it too. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Her hair is curly. So there's like a, she was like a whole thing. She sent me mad types one time and she's like, which one am I? I was like, I don't know.

Three A? It was before after you, I was married. This before. This before. You passed. Yeah, yeah. Oh, this is fire. Okay, this is good.

Yeah. And then once they're built at that point because once I say that, they're like, Otis, he knows us. Yeah. they're up there. So I attack Trapp Carey much like, you know, you could attack this shit like a party. Yeah.

Or you can attack it like a show. Yeah. And that's what separates us. So you make it a show. We make it a show. Me and the creator, we make this thing, a show. We sit down. Here, we're going to do these segments.

Yeah. It's going to go from here. We'll have them here. Yeah. And now the people are involved in a show. They're not just watching the show. They're a part of the show. Because it's not ours.

It's theirs. You know what I mean? That's the most important. The thing I love, most about your show or even because I think sometimes being friends some people forget that it's cool to be fans of your friend and I think the thing I love most about you guys is that you never forget about the fans you never forget that it's only but so much that separates us right yeah like yes we all we're like the event we all have this like talent that no one else

possesses right we we talk and people listen yeah that's a superpower yeah that's the only thing that separates us from our fans interesting So when you look at it like that, I heard you say it. And I never had the verbiage for it, but I always just be like, you know, it has to count. And I tell people that in the beginning of the show, every show, I'm like, it took you seven days to get here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you waited, you had to deal with whatever bullshit you had to deal with that work. You had a babysitter. You had a baby sitter.

You found the Uber. Went to dinner. You did all of that. And then you paid $80 for these tickets. Yeah. I'm going to make these next four hours worth it. Yeah. And I heard you say it right before the show and I was like, and then I seen the show.

And I was like, there goes. They got their money's worth. They got you. got these money to work and that's all I care about that means a lot to me man it's always meant a lot to me especially like when you got people coming out for you there's one thing in your career where you're performing for strangers right that they were just like I need to do something I need to get out the house absolutely and then they're there and then you got to win them over but like when people plan their whole weekend around it people fly in hotel they got

flights that's the craziest part that's when I said I couldn't take this shit for a joke right like I came in as probably I came in probably a little elevated than the last those because I was already me when I got there yeah right I didn't trap karaoke just helped solidify me it became like a commercial for me where like I get to be in these cities so somebody who didn't think they were going to see me until guys next door went on the road

or until BT or an All Star came to date oh I get a see mouse this weekend because trap karaoke's coming yeah so now once I started realizing that and once I started realizing like oh y'all are coming for me and you're leaving with this experience so you don't know right so now there's no way

of me knowing when I hit that stage who's here for me and who's here for trap karaoke, I just got to flip it and I got to make sure everybody's won. Yeah, yeah. And you started realizing that once I got on the tour

and there was these lines, right? Yeah. We live in New York. We're used to seeing celebrities or we used to seeing people with fans of. Yeah, yeah. So when it turns on you,

you're kind of like, that's cool. You don't think not, right? I see somebody asking me, oh, you was on brilliant idiots or you was on break, so, you was here, use it. Oh, God, next door, I love it. That's, we're in New York.

You're used to that. It wasn't until I seen those lines after the trap karaoke show. I'm like, what the fuck is it? What are we doing? Yeah. They had to take a picture with you. Yeah.

Lines, 200, 300, 300 people. Yeah. The show is over at 11. Yeah. We typically don't get out of that venue until one because I'm taking pictures. Yeah. I was like, oh, I can't waste these people time.

Yeah. I'm not about to play with y'all. Yeah. So it doesn't matter if I'm on trap karaoke. It doesn't matter if I'm doing courtside studios for Mountain Dew. It doesn't matter if I'm doing the BT experience at the Stapel Center. If I touch that stage, you're going to be worth it.

And these venues that you guys are doing look pretty big. Like it looks like you got... All theaters. Yeah, it looks like you've got like a couple thousand people in there. Three thousand, thirty-five hundred people. Wow. They're selling out.

And where are you finding that many vaccinated black people? None of my business. That's a job for the person who creates it. We got some fake bags cards to get you into the trap karaoke show. Last show I saw in Louisiana. I don't think they're even checking. I think there's a Southern black tour. I think you're doing.

Hey. But no, but I mean, I see some people in that. I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Kyrie. Nick, Kyrie, you're famous. You're famous for not being vaccinated. I just think Kyrie's backstage. No, but that's fucked us up on the road.

I'm sure you felt that shit too, which is like, and I say jokingly about black people, but in all seriousness, there are people like, yo, I want to come to the show, but I'm not getting vaccinated. It became like a political thing for them. And they're like, yo, I can't, I bought tickets.

I can't come. So that was New York. Sorry, it kind of hurts the diversity of the show. Yeah, because I want those motherfuckers there too because that energy is interesting.

Yeah. To have those conflicting. Yeah, that's the tension. That's the thing you like to play with. Absolutely. One of the things, I mean, you see in our show,

but one of the things that I love about our show is like everybody's there. Like, it's the most diverse show and comedy. Yep. And the reason why we can say all these jokes is because everybody's in the room. Everyone's in the room.

It feels weird if someone's not in the room to talk about that. Right. But when you're right there, you're making that joke. We just talking shit about family. You were right there. Like, if he's laughing, you can't be offended on behalf of him.

If she's laughing, you can't be offended on behalf of her. Like, hey, we're all in this shit together. It is what it is like, it's like whatever my homies tell me about like the army, like the experience in the army, like once those are your brothers and they're keeping you alive. Right. All the barriers go down. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Like, absolutely.

It really does become a family dynamic. Only everybody looks different, but it's like, yo, these jokes are going to fly. Yeah. Boot Camp was one of the only. times where I realized that. Oh, that's right. You were in the Navy. Oh, that's right.

So when you realize, so when you go overseas and you realize that and you see that, the only thing that separates y'all is Facebook. Yep. Get out of here. Yep. Kill someone? What are you doing? Come on.

How are you going to kill people Long Island and not do it overseas? They found you. We got to put them in a good use. Am I dressed like someone that would be anything like that? I know you killed a turnip. Wait a minute. Were you really overseas? Like that?

Yeah. And like getting it in? Where? I was attached to teams that was getting in. Okay. What was your job out there? So I was a HM, so I was a Corman. What does that mean?

So a medic. That would be the best way to put it. Oh, really? Oh shit. So I was in Italy for six months. We did, what was out of, the Ramich was out of, not Newport News, Norfolk. So that did, we did Bahrain. We did the Strait.

we did where else the fuck we go what's that place it's near Greece but it's not in Greece it's off the coast Sardinia? Mm-mm-mm not Miko

what that shit is called I don't know No idea I always fucking forget this It doesn't matter You can say anything Yeah we don't fact check here But no it wasn't

It wasn't the craziest thing Yeah But to your point When you're talking about people from vastly different places and typically would not even like each other. Yeah. And then you haven't to like each other.

Yeah. And then you come home and you realize, no, I don't like this person because you see their Facebook post. Literally, it's- But there that was your homie. Oh, there you're like, bro, my boy's a Marine and he said like, he's like, dude, one of the coolest things about the Marines was that I made like really close friends with all these people that I would never be friends with outside of it.

Like one of his boys who like does his accounting, not even counting like investment stuff is like this like Mormon dude with like 10 kids and he's like when in my life am I gonna connect with the guy like that become best friends and then just trust him with my future just give him all my money

and it's the Marines that's a specific place or the military trying to think of other types of situations I think shit like this it's got to be a life of death type thing yeah it's not life or death it could get like say it's got to be high yes and then everything else is less important

something about life or death like it brings all of your It cuts away the bullshit. Yeah, dumb shit like race matters when there's no stakes. Yeah. When we got real stakes, bro, I don't give a fuck what you look like. We got things to do. Well, because it just becomes good guy, bad guy.

I don't know if race is the one that, yes, I agree with the Thorpey. I just don't know if race is the one that because when you think about it, right, if we're home, race still, you could be, you look at cops, right? they like to think that it's all blue but it's not because within the blue there's still black cops that are treated away and you'll still feel that way in the military there was still that there yeah because you realize

okay those guys over there look I see that like people are going to couple up naturally that's going to happen but like when it's go time when it's like war time oh when bullets flying you just want to go home it's good guy bad guy you just want to go home in everyone in movies where like the alien

come. Like the first thing we do is called China and Russia, we get on a group call and we're like, yo, are we friends now? Can we take out the aliens? And everybody's like, all we're going to take out the aliens. It's like, that's literally, that's all we need for everybody to get along. That's the whole Independence Day. That's the end of the aliens. It's every movie with aliens, right?

We literally just need a bad guy. I think the Watchmen or something had a plot like that. Like, if we had a fake alien bad guy. And it brought all the bad guy. I mean, it brought all the heroes back together. Yeah. That's all we need. But clearly that doesn't work here. Say what?

That doesn't work in America. We have the aliens and we still are separated. No, because we don't have aliens. We just got the ships. What's the war for? I don't know. Like, I don't even believe in the aliens thing. The aliens got to present a threat.

Just as we see aliens, they're not going to freak out. If they blow up a fucking building or two, then it's like, oh, we have more. But they just got to hurry up then. Yeah. Just got hurry up. Yeah, just get it done. Yeah. Hurry up.

Blow some shit up. Let's go. Just wait to this tour. It's over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let us get it in first. Then you can fuck. Let's just read up.

Let's re-up after this pandemic fucked us up for you. How fucked up with that be if you're alien, you travel like light years and you got here like when everybody's quarantined? Right? You're like, man, earth sucks. These motherfuckers don't leave the house. Like, no wonder they didn't discover us yet.

They left. They were like, yeah, no, it's, I'm out. Trash, right? Maybe that's why we're seeing them. Maybe they're cocky like that. I don't know. You think about aliens? Do you believe in aliens?

I do. Really? Yeah, just probability to me. Like, we can't be the only thing here. I know that's what generic. That's what everybody says. Do you think they look weird? But it makes sense.

I don't know what they look like. I don't know if they could be mad small. It could be mad small. It doesn't matter if they're, it don't matter if aliens exist or not if we can't see them. Right. It's, do it's,

you think they're on Earth right now? Yeah, that's the question I want to ask. Or if not right now, they've come. I think maybe. I think, and I see that. I think they left when Trump left. You think? Why?

Why? I think they stayed. They were entertained and then they got bored. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Oh, this is all right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

This is the role credits. This guy sleeping through meetings. I mean, I'll go home for this. Oh, oh, this is the clothes. Yeah, let's go. We're out of here. So Taylor brought up article that said aliens could come back to Earth by traveling back on our own spacecraft, scientists warm.

I don't even know how that makes sense. Yeah, I don't understand that. If we can't get to them, they can't get to. They're saying some bacteria that could like attach itself to a spaceship. that as we explore Earth and fly, I mean, explore outer space and fly out of space and fly down. Let's say we land on Mars. Some bacteria could fucking attach itself to that ship,

flies back in and it survives. The symbiote. You guys hear that Spider-Man, no way home tickets. All going. We're going for $10,000, yo. I think people are just listening. There's no anybody's buying.

That's it. It's a fake place. It's when you list your house. You don't think somebody, there's a whole fucking. Comic-Con thing that happens every year, twice a year, in every city. You don't think somebody's paying $10,000 for... Not when you can wait a week to spend $15 on it.

Yeah, no. No. We can do the same thing about sneakers, clothing items, and people... Not a sneaker. Sneaker sell out is gone. Son. No, you could just... I didn't get off whites when they dropped, and now they're going to be fucking $40,000.

Yeah, you're the victim. I'm the victim here. Yeah, yeah. Can't relate. You know how I kept this a secret? Can't relate. It's fucking devastating. I'm devastated.

You made Virgil's death about you, though. Who else is it about? How the fuck you make Virgil's death about you? Who else been to be about? Just spend the extra $2,500, bro. The guy deserved it. It don't go to Virgil? Yo, do you feel bad?

Do you feel bad? I have mine, so. No. Do you feel bad about criticizing Virgil for donating $50 to Black Lives Matter back in a day? No, you ain't shit for that. No, but I also didn't. You ain't shit for that. Facts.

My shit's too big. What's that? What's that? No, man, I caught part with it. Yeah, what's that? I tried to use. My black boy then it didn't work. Yeah, I called me on it.

Taylor might be able to fit that motherfucking mess. Taylor, do you remember? Yeah. You're telling you. Come on now, bro. Taylor, did you criticize Virgil for only doing $50 to Black Lives Matter back in the day? Yeah. You did.

And that was fucked up because you know what he was doing. It was funny. It was funny. No offense. No offense. No one knew about his cancer. You don't respect Virgil Ablo because. You've never thought something and not said it.

Wait, what? Yeah. That's good. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I never thought.

Wait, say it when I'm saying? You know how you'll be on the podcast and then you'll just say some shit? You don't need to say sometimes? Virgil didn't do that. He said something, he had something he could have said and he decided not to say it. That's great though. Not great, but I'm saying as in like, that's fine. That's noble.

That's admirable. I believe it's admirable. I think it's dope. Yeah, it's dope. Because you don't want people to, it's the same, I guess, reason that's child Chedric. Yeah. But, um.

I mean, but you're black. Like you said, why are you only giving $55? Because not every black person believes black lives matters. But he also, he also gave $25,000 to like the bail

to get black people. Oh, okay. So I didn't know that. So, so. Yeah, but see you didn't know. But that's why I pays to shut up. Hmm. Facts.

It pays every time to shut up. How much, how much you donate to black lives matter? Um, lie. $500. Don't do. that. Oh shit. You gave $500? Oh shit. I have people that's it. A part of it? 500? Yes. You've been black your whole life and all you can give is 500?

That ain't shit. That's fucked up. Can I be honest with you? That's some real two-way behavior, yo. I'm not going to lie like that that's some two-a behavior. I thought you were more three-c type of girl, but that was some real two-a behavior. That might have been one-a. That's some real one-a donation. Five hundred dollars of black-a. That's one-year. You lost the Shultz in the four race. That's, oh, you were running 1A for sure.

Because a 4C would have smoked to that. I ran a 4C. I was running so fast my hair curled up. You didn't see me at the, I was looking like Bob Ross. At the end of that race, I just started painting for no reason. I don't know it. That's what I do. Oh, shit.

I was frowed up after that, okay? Don't ever come in me again. But seriously, a weak-ass donation like that. That's some 2A shit right there, girl. That was weak. That's true. Your whole outfit costs more than that. Your whole outfit don't cost more than $500?

This is on sale. Hey, hey, hey, hey, tell me, tell me how much you got. Tell me how much you got on the rich. Tell me how to say, hey, tell me how much the fit cost. Tell me how much the fist cost, tell him. Okay, okay, okay. $500 on a donation? What's that kind of name?

I don't know his name, but that shit is hilarious. You know what I'm telling me? He's with your brother. He's like, okay, $50,000. Okay, okay, what you got to $1. Okay, okay, tell me. Talk to me nice. Talk to me nice.

How much for the sneakers? Oh, oh, okay, okay. 25 for the sneakers. Yo, he got to pull up on people and ask about BLM donations. Ask Taylor first. How much for the bail? Talk to me nice, Taylor. Say what?

How much did you spend? I give my life. I gave $1,000. I give my life. I gave at the very least $500. I think I gave $1,000. I think I'm Indian. Yeah.

I think Black Lives matter more than you, Taylor? You have more money than me. That's a good point. She probably gave. She gave proportionally more than you. That was good. She gave proportionally more than you. I still think you guys pay him more than $500.

No, I don't think so. How much you give? My life. Every day. I wake up. I wake up and I'm here. You know, he didn't give a goddamn dollars. It was going back to me.

It was going to me. It's going to me. That's funny, though. Should black people have to donate to BLM? Not black men. That's like if you work for the government, should you pay taxes? Yeah, you pay taxes. No, but like I'm getting, not if you're in the military, you don't got to pay taxes, right?

It's like, it's going right back to me. No, we definitely got to the bail fund, dog. This is people laying down their freedom for you. Oh, you got to be smarter than that. This is people laying down their freedom for you, dog. No, who? You didn't, you didn't tell nothing. I didn't donate anything, though.

You and Trump donated the same amount of money to black. I'm going to tell you. Can I be honest. I'm going to tell you exactly why. No, no, at least he free. You ain't free. Free Kodak, son. You should have a Kodak!

You didn't free Kodak! Yo, how baller was that to free Kodak, yo? Be honest. How fucking dope is that the free Kodak? You should have a free Kodak and Kambu Shudu shit. Obama not free and Kiv Rock? No, what should. I don't think y'all would.

No, we would. Keep that motherfucker locked up. No, I'm gonna take a shower. You some shampoo, kid. I'm gonna do the bail. Because I seen it, I was like, should I give? And I thought thinking, I said, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

When I had to bail myself out. How to figure it out on my own. Yeah, but you weren't protesting. Mouse a hard-ass dad, bro. You are doing it. What's shit, Doug? Why do you? Oh.

Oh. Oh, that's what I was doing. Wait, why did you? But if they offer you to host the motherfucking March, would you do it? With bells and whistles. We'll be swag surfing our way to freedom. They got to have mouse host the next BLM March

I'm donating I'm donating to it. Who billed me out? Me! I did it. Why were you in jail in the first place? Jail her! Your business.

That's the point. No, that's the point. Yeah, why was he in jail in the first place? Because of an unfair fucking system that you donated $500 to. Yeah. The patriarchy. The $1,000.

The white cis patriarchy. That's true. All of y'all ain't shit. That's true. I can do. I can do. As long she goes down. Wait, no, for a pro.

You really are the worst. Hold on, Al, how much you donate? Al's for her. He was the fucking cop. You got to donate extra. You got to donate extra, bro. I donated my time. To lock him.

Yeah. That's what you reach. Go to lock. Donated my time. There's some poor black dude. In the court. He's right here. The poor.

The poor. I was looking at the other way. He's fighting for his life. He gets a little bit out of head. Al running out to it. Calm down, sir. He was the worst kind. Al was the worst kind.

He was resisting arrest. No, he'll be like this. Alex was a fucking bailiff. So he'd be over there like, you can't be on your phone. Bitch, don't put me on fucking blast in front of this fucking court. I already look crazy. I don't wore my glasses trying to look smart.

I got this two big suit. And now Adam's just put me on fucking. And now Adam's put me on fucking. They'll pick people with glasses. Come here, cry. He'd be whispering her. Yeah, these glasses are fake. Lock them up.

Alex, you're fucked up. How that's fucked up. You should donate your tour earnings to fucking black lives. Do you see how white people do this shit, bro? Do you see how we just divided right now? We got all the black people fighting amongst each other. This is fucked up, man. You let them do that, son.

You let them do that. What's wrong with us, bro? Come on, Mouse, what's wrong with us? Oh, damn. That's why I draw the line. You're not going to get mouse, dude. You can get him on any of that shit. I know, he's good.

Yeah, you're not going to get him. He's white, donate money to black people and nothing. He's ungetable. He's ungetable, bro. I love this. I need to find out who the biggest donor to Black Lives Matter is. So far in this room is Taylor. The biggest black donor to Black Lives Matter.

Impossible. At the very least, I'm tied with her. But you're not black. But you're not black, though. I probably gave 5-0-1 because I'm Indian. always be given the fucking extra $1. But you're not black though. That's an Indian tradition.

You keep not listening to me when I say. Of the black people. Oh, of the black people. Yes. But of all the people, y'all ain't shit. No, I donate more than that. I donate more than that. First of all, I donated more than everybody.

I bailed out and never got that money back. Therefore... You bailed yourself out, dude. Because of a system. Of a system that forced him to rob people on the streets of Suffolk County. Jesus Christ. Because of a system.

Nassau or Suffolk. Both. Taryn, you lived on Long Island, bro. You live on Long Island. These nice cul-de-sac whites terrorizing them. They preserved it. Did they? No, that I believe.

But you lived on Long Island. I don't buy your struggle story. No, Long Island is kind of rough, dude. My struggle. I was a struggle. Because of a system. Because of a system I had to do. I'm a black.

man I'm at what. Exactly. I'm a man. I'm a black man. Yeah, but you don't got to sell drugs because you're a black guy. I never saw drug.

Never saw drug day in my life. That was never my thing. What was your thing? Oh, what are we doing here? He thought we came so far. Came in there with dungarees and shit. I tried to call him. What the fuck he's been doing?

Okay? With his of mice and men outfit. You need to be Lenny from a mice and men just petting some fucking one A? So soft It's so soft Oh Chosen one dog

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Okay? Did y'all see that PETA, which I think is really dumb. But PETA did a human skin launch. Oh, yeah, I saw this where they had like the bags. They're like bags and jackets. They were like...

Yeah, but isn't that... It's not actually made of human skin. It's made of like images of human skin. And what would be dope if we started wearing them? Yeah, we'd be fired. That sounds fire. But even though it looks kind of trash, like if we start wearing them,

it proves that we're even. Like, if all it takes Pita to understand that we're going to keep wearing leather is if we also wear humans, I'm okay with that. I'd wear human. I wear human.

But isn't that like contradictory? If you fucked a girl, you wore human. You've been worn. That's a fact, right? That is a fact. Yeah, no. Right? We're not against this.

Two guys have been worn. A few guys have been worn. I don't, Stylistically, I don't think is great, but like... You're not going to hold you. That's fake fire. That one right there is fake fire. You're into it? You can do that with like a black, like a black hoodie at the time.

That's fake fire. The rest of it, it's just dumb. I mean, that's not bad. I'm not bad at all. I'll wear that for sure. That's not bad at all. Yeah, I'm not a matter of thing. Yeah, they're going to be mad once they sell out.

For sure. Yeah, they got to stop hating. The pita is just, they're just trolls. They are. Right? Like, just get over it. We're going to fucking kill animals. We're going to eat them.

we're going to use their products. Like, what's the big deal? Get a life. I want to see what in their house. I've always wondered what's in the PETA people. Just polyester? It has to be. The whole house.

Like, nothing is from human. I mean, nothing is from animals? Yeah. Like, no, I don't believe it. Yeah, I don't believe it. Modern furniture they probably like because a lot of that isn't leather. They don't have plants. Like a linen couches and shit like that.

But plants, they're okay with Ian. They don't live. They do live. They're a living organism. Yeah. But PET is okay with Ian that. Yeah. You know, somebody had a joke, fuck a comic head joke, I'm forget what it is, but it's like, yeah, if vegetarians love animals so much, why do they eat all their food?

Yeah. Yeah, Brian John had a joke like that back in the day. Was it Brian? I remember he had a joke like that back in the day. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know. I just like, if somebody comes up to me, they're like, yo, I stop eating meat, I feel healthier. I have more energy, that kind of shit.

Right. Okay, I'm cool with that. I don't care. Like, whatever, if you want to have your dietary shit, go for it. Right, right. Right. Right. Right?

Like it just fucks her whole skin up. So I'm cool with it. But the whole thing where it becomes like your lifestyle It's just like, it's your identity. It's like you just need religion. Like you need somebody to tell you what to do. That's really what it is.

I feel like, I don't like, I don't trust any of those people. You don't. Like you just, you need somebody to tell you you're doing the thing. Let me ask you this question. Have you ever met someone who is religious

and vegetarian or vegan or these kind of things? Yeah. Everybody comes home from jail. But that's why they get good meals. No, they 5% and now they don't eat anything. Yeah, but so they get the good food.

Like, if you're going to get the halal food in jail, you've got to join up. Yeah, of the halal of the kosher's food, yeah. But then once they come home, they really believe that shit. I'm like, bro, you only eat like this so you didn't get beat up, like, relax. But then they keep doing it afterwards?

Yeah. That's a good lick. Like, if I'm the religion, if I'm Islam, I'm like, yo, give the best food in jail and then get everybody on board. And then if we trust the documents, if the documents are nice, like if the gospel is nice,

we just got to get you to listen. We're reforming you right there. Boom. I sneak you in with the food. Hit you over the head with God. Right. And once you, and if you truly believe in God,

it's like, yo, once you feel this God shit, it's over. Like, you're coming with me. It might work. Yeah.

That's an okey dog. It's brilliant. Solid marketing. It's just like, Rahim, give it up. Rahim, give it up.

I'm just really annoyed. Like, come on, I get it. You did you just time. You just time you're home now. Come on. That's it. Like, at least try chicken.

at home. They eat chicken. You never have free world chicken. These niggas never have free world chicken. Like you don't know what it's like.

I stopped eating free world chicken. It's different. I knew what it was like, I'm good on it. Yeah. Y'all didn't have that shit. Like you still institutionalized.

Come home. Sick of these niggas. I know a lot of Hindus obviously don't eat meat. Do you know any religious person that's a vegan? I don't think so. Because they already

got one thing in their life. telling them what to do. You don't need more than one thing in your life telling you what to do. You might just not call it God. Ooh. Whatever that thing that's keeping you morally on Trump. Politics, AOC, Trump, that's your God. I'll be honest with you.

Animals, whatever. People that got a wife ain't that religious. Why is that? I'm here for this. Let me hear this. You got someone telling you what to do. Like, you got someone breaking down the rules. This is what I have to a buy-bye.

But if you're smart, you use God to flip it. Yeah, because you can't check your wife. You God checks your wife. We'll talk to me like that. Exactly. You're like, yo, God would not want you told me. Yeah, we're in the Bible. It says you should masculate me.

Oh, you're not giving up pussy. Where's that in the Bible? Yeah. I mean, not tonight. The Bible never said that. Never said that once. No one in the Bible does it say you're not in the mood. It's not in any other text.

None of them. Mood. What do you mean? You got saliva? You're talking about moods here. Why we got to be in the mood? Why do we need music? We don't need any of those things.

That's excellent. That's added bonus. Why are we adding all these things in complicated shit? Let me ask you this. As somebody is about to get married. I'm almost married. Are you scared at all? Like we make the jokes.

We've been cracking the jokes for years. But there comes a point where it's like, well, I'm about to have to like live with this person as my person forever. Is there any part where the jokes now hit a little different because you're like, no. No. Yeah, I didn't feel any. I don't feel it. No, no. But I also have, like, I think, a different outlook on marriage.

Okay. Which is like, I come from a very fortunate where, like, my parents are still together. Yes. And, uh, uh, you don't have to look at me when you said that either. Like, my parents are still together as well. I want you to know my parents are still together. Okay. No.

You didn't look at that cause. You looked at me. Like, I come from birth. My parents are still again. So all, all three of our parents are still together. Yeah. How way is that? Technically, I have a step followed, but he's been.

He was one who raised you. This is out six years. So I've always had a father. It lasted. Yeah. If it lasted, it lasted. All three of us. Isn't that crazy?

Yeah, I don't feel like it's different. You don't feel any different? I like it better, to be honest. You like married life better. Yeah, there's no uncertainty. Listen, I'm going to be gone a lot. We just got to make it work. Whatever the issue is, we got to make it work.

Yeah. There's no like exit strategy for either one of us. Once I was ready to be married, I was married. I think you might be same. Once I was ready to be mad, okay. If you were in a situation where, like, for whatever reason, you guys were beefing a lot and you've tried everything you could do to reconcile and, like, you know, you thought the environment was fucked up with the kids.

Yeah. Would you do the right thing, whatever the right thing is for you? Yeah, I guess I have a different mindset on it. Like, yeah, I never want to say we will never, because it's, you know, that's like an arrogant thing for me to say. But the thing that made me be like, okay, this is my wife and this is why is when we had problems we were both willing to do the work to get through whatever we're both going to therapy on our own if we have to do couples we'll do couples whatever like that we worked through so much

shit early on because we both came from not the best so it's like all right well now we know we're willing to overcome whatever that's my wife and that's what i was saying once i was like okay this is my wife i'm going to propose to her mindset was my mindset was i'm married and now there's like that's what it is i mean i got i was married when i proposed yeah okay i think for man yeah i think that's what is i always say that it's like once i made that decision that I'm marrying you, then that's it. And I think typically, and I can only speak from, like,

the ones I've seen, I mean, I was super young when I got married. I was super young. Literally, right out the military and got married. So it wasn't, so I don't even think I, I didn't know who I was. So from, I'm speaking from it, like, at this point, and seeing the people get married around me,

a lot of niggas are proposing, and then using that space in between the proposal to the marriage, to like exercise whatever demons I left or like get in that. So where you guys say, I said I'm ready to be married, then I'm married. I think we're using it saying, I think I'm ready to get married. I propose. She said yes.

Now I'm going to get ready to get married. So fidelity starts at marriage for some people. For some people. And that's the hesitation. Yes. Whereas for us, fidelity started when we were like, yeah, we're boyfriend, girlfriend. Yeah.

That's fidelity. for me. Yes. We're boyfriend, girlfriend. And then marriage is just this thing that girls want. Like, to me, I've told my girl, like, I don't need the government

to know that I love you. I love you. I'm doing this because you value this thing. And I'm sure there's not only security in it, but there's also like a culture that she was brought up in and she's seen movies since she was a kid, TV shows, constantly pushing towards.

You want to give it a fairy tissue once. Yeah, of course. So I'm like, all right, let's go, whatever. Like, we're doing this together. It's fine. But I've told her all the time, like me and you going in front of a judge and saying I love you, like that means nothing to me. Zero. Like it is actually stupid.

Yeah. It's stupid that I need to tell, it's not Cuomo, but whoever there's governor now, like, hey, I'm good. I love my wife. And then she goes, okay. I'd be a little worried of Cuomo. Actually, he might be on your side. Are you sure? Let me take simple.

Let me see. I don't think it's about the love. Well, it's also stupid for us financially. That's where it's stupid to us. Because it's like, this is my money. I'm giving up. Right. But essentially once you say,

it's like we're open in a business and I'm putting up all the money. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. I walk away half as rich. You walk away twice as rich. Yeah. And that's the fucked up thing is that like,

because I was going through this even with my girl with the pre-up shit is like, if I. So you guys did get a pre-nown. No, no, no, no. I said we wouldn't get a pre-nope. And she wanted. She wanted to like prove it. I just said, I said I wouldn't do it. We're going to get a post snub, but she didn't see that coming.

So basically you should have thought about it. No, but the fucked up thing about a pre-nup is, all jokes aside, the fucked up thing about a pre-nup is, is that you got to look at your girl and you got to be like, here's this piece of paper that says, I think you'll never be more successful than me. Because if you thought that she would be, you would never give her a paper. Yeah. The paper says, hey, there's a limit how much each of us can get from one another. Because I got so much. Look at progressive Andy. I'm just saying.

So it's a fuck. Now, my girl's in business school and shit. She got money to make. Right, right. So it's like, that's a difficult thing. If my girl was just like, yo, I just want kids. That's it. I don't want to work.

I'm good. You hold it down. Which is also great. I support that 100% and I'm down with women and want to do that. I'm never going to fucking shit on a woman who wants to raise a family. Like, that's a full-time. Especially when I want a family. Especially when I want a family 100%.

But it is a trickier thing. It's not as easy as just going, hey, I got some money. Here's a pre-up. Because it's for future money too. Right? Yeah. And these girls, as they should right now,

are entering the workforce. Like, yo, I'm about to be bredded up too. And they're running it up. Yeah. So I got to look at them. And be like, yeah, but you got a ceiling. You know what I mean? Like, that's crazy.

No, bitch, you fuck this up. I'm coming up. And here's the thing. if we were like, I'm older than my girl, you're older than your girl. So if we were the same age, that's easy. I could be like, yo, you had a shot, Shorty, like, you ain't making it. You know what you want me to say? Like, you're 40.

Like, you know, where the millions are at? But if, but our girls are younger, they got time. Right. They got time like, we got time. I wasn't making money at her age. I was fucking broke at her age. Exactly. So I can't even, I can't even say, yo, I had it when I was.

I had nothing. I had what you got when you or you, when I was you. Less because she didn't have, you didn't have a you. 100%. But even more than lack of faith in her, if I, I would look, we didn't get a pre-knock because my girl was with me when I was broke as fuck, so I couldn't really justify way ass for one. But I thought about it.

You could have, but. You wouldn't have gone. That's what we didn't want to win. We always try to make ourselves to hear her like, she was with me from the beginning. Like, and oh, man, shit. J.P. Morgan, you know, Jay, J. A. B. Morgan? Oh, I didn't say I, this is what I decided in my heart. I said I couldn't justify a ass for one. One sentence back and you'll see, I didn't have a good leverage

point. I wanted to. The leverage was limited. It was with me when I was fucking homeless. What can I have to say to you leverage wise? Right. So apparently the J.P. Morgan, like, you know, the bank obviously. Apparently, I think it's him. I might be fucking it up. It might be someone else. But apparently he made his wife sign a pre-up when he was in debt. like he had like $100 to his name or some shit but he just knew what he was going to be I bet he planned that out I bet he's like I'm a go broke have to sign the pre-nup like this dummy and then I'm gonna turn it up he got that shit framed next to the constitution two things in the living room two most important things of my life but you were saying

to me I look at it like I just in my mind I think I said to her on our second date or something I was like however long this goes I want you to work as hard as you want, make as much money as you want, and just know, I will kill myself trying to make more. That's what it's going to be. And you can think that's sexist or whatever. I think I'm just competitive. I don't make more than everybody around me. So to me, I would look at a pre-nup, like, I want you to make as much as possible.

I'm going to make more. Right, right. But not because you're not talented, just because that's my competitiveness. Yeah. It's not about your lack of anything. It's about me and what I think I will do. Yeah. Yeah, there's like a little baked in.

I don't even want to call it sexism as much as I want to call it, like, Like gender roles. Gender roles, yeah. You know, like where you feel like you got to be the one providing. Yes. Isn't that fucked up? We had all to control.

Like, in order to pass laws, you need people in government to change the law, right? Yes. And it was all men. That's what the feminist movement comes from. The feminist movement comes, was birth out of white women

wanting to fight because we got... It makes more sense in the history of the world. I'm crying and laughing right now, because literally is white women going, you let black people have rights before us. That's literally what happened. That's literally what happened. I'm crying right now.

And then these bitches got the fucking nerve to leave us alone. The white cis men. Oh, they jumped off. They jumped off y'all being wagging. They're the worst. I've been saying this for decades. White women.

Oh, sorry. I said it the first time I was on flagrant. White women have been the worst. We've vived on this. White women been the worst. Yo. Well, so here's something I realized it was really interesting. It's like, and I'm trying to, like, do a bit about it.

So I don't want to seem like I'm doing jokes. There's nothing funny about it, but I'm trying to work out like the thought of it, right? Is this like, have you noticed, like, who the bad guy is has been getting more and more specific? Like, it used to just be like, white people are bad, right? And then it became like, actually, it's just white men that are bad. Right. And then white gay dudes were like, but that ain't us? And then it's like, okay, straight, cis, hats, white, man.

And I'm like, do you know who's writing it all? I'm like, y'all try to leave me to be accountable for it all. You know who's all my fault? And do you know who's writing all this? A white woman. Motherfuckers. My motherfuckers. A lesbian, white woman at that.

God damn. That kind of looks like you. This dress like you. Exactly. No, you're not wrong. He got my haircut, your outfit. And she's writing the shit out of it. Son of a bitch.

And you better not question. My hair cut, your outfit, I cause a tini's. We got a whole lesbian on these three sofas when our four powers combined. We get a tailant. Yeah, we got it. Wait, what? Wait, what?

No, that's crazy. But that is sick. That is the sick part of it. But have y'all noticed that shit? No, you're a thousand percent right. Dead ass. Like, I've been thinking about this shit. I'm like, because I see all these white people doing that 23 and me shit.

And I'm just like, oh, you kind of find a way out? This is your little. I am 6% Congolese. They do this. And they find a way where it's not, they're no longer accountable. Oh, I'm bi or I'm non-binary. They like do these, this like. So I don't see it for white people as a whole, right?

I do, I want to let y'all. I want all to smoke. I don't see. for white people as a whole. But one thing I will always give credit to white men is you never see whenever it's smoke, they're just standing in it. All the racist

it's a joke. I thought he was going to go somewhere else. It's a joke. He didn't even apologize. No, like they're not apologized for it. Never. I can always

respect that. I will respect somebody. Because that's, I think that's just as a man that's in our DNA. Like if you're a stand-up guy, no matter your race, that's in your DNA. What about this, what about this agreement? If you tap out of the accountability, you don't get any of the credit. No, because if you tap, even if you don't get the credit, you'll get the credit just based off the race alone. Yeah, yeah.

You're going to get the credit in life. Exactly. Like, you're going to get the credit in life. You're going to be able to just kind of like operate in life with the, uh, the privilege of being a white dude like walk around a store not being followed etc but like if we're really going to chop it up and like remove people from the accountability of of like the shitty things white people have done shouldn't we also give credit to the good things white people have done even though i had nothing to do with those either like i got nothing to do with the bad shit

even though i benefit from it right i had nothing to do for the good shit even though i benefit from it So I want the credit from the good. You know what I mean? Like, I think when everybody, non-white, logs on to Wi-Fi. Is that a white guy? I assume. It's white-fi.

Is that a thing? Actually, I don't know. It could be black to it. It could be black. I don't know. I think I like that thought process, but the only way that works is kind of like what we've been saying since the beginning

all these conversations is you would have to denounce the privilege. 100% you have to denounce the privilege or acknowledge it like no it doesn't acknowledge it acknowledgement because I can't I used to think that made sense until you've seen it in practicality

but how do you denounce the privilege you can't take part in it like you have to denounce excuse me Korean man please follow me around your store yes I have to ask the Korean guy to follow me around the store or put yourself in that marker

or you got to help you got to stand right there and call him out when he's doing it but you can't somebody else exactly but you can't stand you like I used to think it was one thing to acknowledge it, right?

And then you just seen white people. Yeah, yeah, nothing happens. It's annoying. I can't believe I can live anywhere I want. Oh, I want to live right there, not near the niggers. I don't want to acknowledge it. I'm just saying I'm willing to take all the smoke for it, but then I'm fine with the credit. If you're going to put all the fuck shit on me, well, that's what I think.

I don't think. So the sick part. The only real easy way to do it is just it's white privilege. That's it. Yeah. But one of gay guys like, no, I'm gay, so I've been held. Yeah, but you could also not be gay for a little bit. Like you walk in the store, you don't got to be gay about it.

You know what I'm saying? You don't. You don't got to do that shit where you fall back real delicately. But it doesn't hurt. You know that dance that they do? That shit is unbelievable. Where they just drop? No, that's not the white ones.

I don't think the white ones have enough. White and black gay, there's a lot of mix. No, there's not. No, I don't know. Yes, there is. No, no, there's black gay. I don't think white dudes. White gay does he's got rhythm like that?

Not a lick. Bro, I'm telling you. you dogs. White and black gay. They just have the white male privilege. Yes, they do have white male privilege. White gay dudes are just black women without rhythm. Like their whole identity is stolen from.

Absolutely. So these white gay dudes can dance too. Y'all, it's just like, that, come on, that fucking, that guy on,

that guy on Peloton. I haven't been that mad at a white gay man in a very long time. Wow. Because he pisses me off. I know. I know. I know what you mean. And he's like,

like one of the videos went viral on him like talking about like brunch. Yeah. But it's literally a bit that. every black woman has talked about on black Twitter for the last 10 years. Which is? It's just like, you know, we hate, they hate when you split the bill.

Like, don't, I don't try to account for what you did. We all sit at here, we all eat. We have to, right. And so black women are very much, don't, don't be that. Don't pay for just what you order. It's six of us split the bill.

So now he's on the Pelotin. He's like, come on. We're riding and we're at brunch. And you brought the home girl that hates, that they hate splitting the bill it's like, come on, bro. What are y'all doing right now?

And they just kept retweet. I'm like, that's literally... They didn't sliding by on this for a while, I think. And it's like, I don't... I hate that part. Because they say, every white gay man says, oh, there's a black, there's a black woman trapped inside of me. And then you start treating black women like shit.

And they start treating black men like shit. I just think if we're going to call out appropriation at every turn. Every single turn, I'm with it. I think there's a lot of straight... I don't think straight. I don't think straight. I don't think cis heterosexual straight white men are the biggest.

I'm just saying. I don't think they're the big. No, I'm trying to defend you. No, I'm not trying to defend you. I don't think they're the most dangerous of the white people. Yeah. I think it's white women. Yes, agreed.

Gay white men. Probably agree. Gay white women. Probably agree. Then kiss at white men. I think they just do the dirty work. And a lot of them stand next to Trump and a lot of them are just able, just from history you're able to point at and say wrong. So let's play devil's advocate for the gays.

Okay. The white ones. Yeah, sure. Or black gays as well. No, there's two separate experiences. Of course, there's separate experiences. But at the same time, like, how you act, who you are, the person you become is influenced by the people you admire growing up. Okay. And it's like, there's a reason why like we all grow up in New York and we speak a certain way and gay people who grew up in New York, went to school with us, had the same exact upbringing as us, have a different accent. Okay. Right?

We're familiar with the gay accent. Right? I don't know if this persists no matter where you go in the world, but it is a choice. Just like it's a choice for us. Like, when I speak Spanish, I speak it with a specific accent. That's a choice. Right? I'm specifically using the accent where I learned it from.

You think about that? Like when you do it, like when, for example, we all do it. Like, when we go downstairs and we go to the bodega, we go to the corner store. 100%. Yo, pa. Yep. Yo, pa. Yeah.

100%. You think about it. For me, if I'm talking to different people, changes. Like, if I'm speaking to people from Spain, my accent, I learn Spanish in Spain. So my accent's a little bit more Spanish for there. But then when I was in Mexico, all my Mexican slang starts coming up because most of the time I spoke Spanish is with Mexicans. Gotcha. So, like, who we are starts to, you know, even watching my mom.

My mom's from Scotland. When she's speaking to me, like barely notice her accent. When she speaks to her family, all of a sudden. starts coming up, gets thicker, et cetera. So we're going to have that. So what if these young white gay kids, young black gay kids, young Hispanic gay kids, are all admiring the same figures, right?

And they happen to be black women. Okay. And even at a young age, they're like, they might not even know they're gay, but they're like, I just know that that is beautiful. That is amazing. That is incredible. And what if they start to cultivate their personality around that?

In the same way, when we were younger, we saw Will Smith and we're like, you know, that guy's so hilarious. I'm going to cultivate my personality around that. I want all the Jordans. I want all the, yeah. Yeah, like, okay. I was, that's what I think what people don't want on like the,

what people don't realize is appropriation to a large degree is admiration. Yes. I think that's at the core of it. Yes. That's at the core. I don't have a problem with appropriation. I don't personally think it's the biggest deal all the time. There's, I guess, exceptions.

But generally, I don't have a problem with appropriation. But if we're in a culture, we're going to call it appropriation at every turn, and we can't just let white gay dudes slide on this entire thing because, oh, they're homosexual. Well, I think that's exactly what they want to slide on the entire thing. But, oh, they're homosexual, so I can't say anything about them. If we're calling out appropriation. Yeah, appropriate.

I think there's two ways to look at this. Like, one, 100% agree. And I think you have good perspective on this because there are parts of your culture that are appropriated all the time in your community for, at least as far as I've seen, is accepting of it. And I have the self-awareness to know.

Yoga and shit. You know what I mean? It's like... Namaste. You mispronounce it every time. Drives me fucking nuts. Namaste. But at the end of the day, I also have the self-awareness to know.

There was no Indian identity for me growing up. And the white kids in my suburb were a few of them were pretty quick to tell me I'm not them. So I picked up a lot of shit from black culture because I was like, well, if I'm not white, I must be this other thing. So I picked up things there. So I've appropriated. We have all appropriated. So I don't have a problem with it, generally speaking. But if we are in this accountability of appropriation culture, that's where I get annoyed.

So I think, so real quick, I think a couple things happen, right? Where it's like, I think there's like a true feeling, I would imagine, of displeasure and anger that like a group that could make you feel lesser than or remove access from certain things would take something that is made cool by you and then monetize it and make money of it. So there's a real frustration. It's like, hold on, I thought we weren't good enough. Yeah. And all of a sudden, not only you doing our shit, but like, you making money off it, that's crazy. And that's the problem.

And that's when admiration becomes appropriation. Yeah. So when you say you don't have a problem with appropriation, I think you don't have a problem with admiration. Yeah. Appropriation is when somebody dons it and wears it. And it's ours. This is us. This is weird.

Especially when they're monetizing. Especially when you're monetizing. Now, I will say this also. There's like a third version where it's like appropriation has been used as like a tool, like a weapon almost. Yes. Where it's like, oh, there's a group of people we don't like. The most convenient way to call them out or take them down is appropriation

because we cannot exist in this world in America without appropriating something. Yeah. Like, literally, that's the thing. Yeah. The music industry is... You wear a polo sport hat. You never played polo? Never my life.

Don't even know a sport. You ran overalls. You never been on a farm. I have. Where? Upstate? Where you go? What are you doing here?

No, but you understand it. So it's like it can become a weapon where it's like, all right, I hate the Kardashians, fuck them. You see how they're doing this shit, blah, blah, blah. Appropriate, get rid of them. Let's use this as a way to, like, criticize this group. 50 did it.

50 did it to probably the best. 50 comes out. He has a problem with Jarl rule. 50 gets shot, comes in the industry, attacks Jarl rule, and then does the same exact thing. What do you do? Makes the same melodic songs.

the same thing. If you listen to what 50 was criticizing Jaru for in those early June at radio mixtapes, it was, oh, you're singing, oh, you're not really rapping, you're doing these pop records. And then 50 comes out with in the club, goes dining, and then candy shop, 21 questions. This is his second single. Oh, wow. It's like, wait, you got us to hate Jarlu, and we stopped liking him.

And now you became genius. That motherfucker's a genius, bro. It's like that's in that, right, we like that part. But when we look at it as a bigger part, that's hypocritical. Yes. That's what's been going on for so long. And so the only problem is when we call it out and somebody says, I'm not appropriate and why still appropriating. Yeah.

That's when it becomes a problem. That's the thing that none of us want to admit, though, is that we all appropriate. And in order for us to exist, we all got to appropriate something. And now it's a little different when you're not the majority because you're forced to do certain things because the culture has been established. Right. Right.

So if like I live in India and I start wearing Indian outfits and shit, yeah, I guess I'm appropriating, but like, motherfucker, I'm trying to fit in, bro, you're not appropriating. That's a good, yeah. You're only appropriating if somebody looks at you and says, oh, Shultz, that's fire. Oh, it is. Yeah, it's my shit.

It's the Shultz. Okay, so there's admiration. assimilation and appropriation. And I think we're all in the middle. I think, to be honest, for the most part, we all live in the middle where we have to assimilate.

Like you said, you had to assimilate closer to the black experience where you were growing up. We're New Yorkers. Urban New Yorkers, you've got to kind of assimilate. You're going to assimilate more or less

to the blacker side of things. It becomes appropriation where if somebody found you and you're like, shows, where you get that style of comedy? You came over with it, you know. Yeah, all by myself. No influences. But that's the crazy thing

about growing up in New York because it was like, it was so weird, like, and maybe this is just the pull and the power of black American culture where it's just like everybody was dragged in that direction. Yeah.

And like we were influenced other directions too, like Italian culture has a strong hold on, especially within, like the, honestly New York culture is really this battle between like Italian and black and like almost a little like Irish or whatever like that. But like... Where would the Irish?

come from. I'm just not well versed Irish culture. I think Italian and Irish culture is a lot of times because they were the two. Like union. Oh, they did the union? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Bar fight. Bar heavy. Okay, okay, okay. Got you, got you. So it's like a lot of those stereotypes that we just

automatically attribute to Italian are also Irish, but the communities were kind of like, uh, I wouldn't even say mixed, but like similar in, in the way that they developed. They were the white people that struggled, created something. It's always the people that struggle to create the cool shit, right? Because they can't do high, expensive things. Yeah.

You have no choice. I need swag. I don't have diamonds. You know what I mean? Like, if I could just buy the expensive thing that gives me value, I would just buy it. But I don't have the money for that. So I got to make Converse cool. I got to make Dickie's cool, right?

I got to make Tim's the shit. I got to make my work uniform the thing. The thing. Yeah. I always thought about that. Like, growing up, when I couldn't get the Carhart, I used to think like, what the fuck we want Carhart anyway? Yeah.

Just fucking shit you be weird. It's just to work. Yeah. But now I love my car I'd be like, now when I finally got it, I'm like, man, I'm wearing cars. I was so happy when I got my car. I was like, man, it's fucking out of you. 100%.

I look just like the DSNY workers. So that's, so I guess that's... But yeah, I think we all live in that assimilation part. And you see everybody gravitate towards it. And we don't notice it in the moment because we're like, oh yeah, this is just what it is to be in New York. And like, this is how we talk. Like, this is how the Asian kids talk.

And this is how the Spanish kids talk. This is how the black kids talk. how the white kids talked that went to like public school more. I went to private school kids were a little more of move. Complete different experience. Because they never got the experience.

They were never going to school. Because the experience happens in school. I think people tend to forget that. The experience happens when you're around your peers. And if we're all poor middle class, we're all sharing an experience. Yeah, you might go to a better house. You might go home to a better house.

But when we're at school and we're walking to school, that's when we're experiencing all this shit together. So the kids go on a private school, yeah, you're having a deal. different experience. White, black, you're having a different experience

and you're like, oh, yeah, that's so cool. Yeah. Tommy went to the Hamptons this week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I'm at Empire, when I'm going, when I'm hopping on a train

to go to Empire in Brooklyn, when I'm 15, 16, they like, oh, okay, you're from where? I don't know where Long Island, but you're cool. Yeah, yeah. Because we match. Yeah.

And it never felt like I'm wearing it. That's where. Well, because you grow up with it. It's like learning a language. It's like you learn what sneakers are cool because your friends got some shit. And then everybody, It's like, oh, those are fire.

Oh, you get, AirMax is. I guess AirMax are cool. I'm going to start looking at AirMax. And that's just how you learn it by osmosis. Right. And that's, I guess, the importance of environment. Like, we always talk about like... Right there.

Yeah, yeah. We always talk about, like, inclusion and stuff in terms of, like, film and movies. And that is very important. Seeing something that you could be that you didn't know you had access to. Absolutely. You know what I mean? Which is why, you know, rest in peace.

That's why Virgil was so big. Yo, Virgil, but like, you know, the corny one or the hacking one may be saying, Jeremy Lynn, but like, that's real. Like, there's an Asian kid that's going to end up in the NBA because they saw Jeremy Lynn. Russell Peters made comedy possible for Indians. We knew it was possible.

We didn't know until we saw him. Hell yeah. And, like, yo, even as a white dude, like, I remember when Jason Williams was playing, you know, like the white chocolate. White chocolate. Bro, it's like, it was really cool to see a white dude play ball, like how I wanted to play ball. Like, besides that, it's Dirknewitzky.

And anytime I'm hooping the dude's like, oh, give it to Dirk. I can't even shoot. I'm crossing people up going to the basket, but they got no other white reference. Right. Right. They're calling me the old lanky dude, right? Do you think Jokic is that right now? Nah, because I don't think kids want a hoop.

Nobody's, nobody, nobody was to be big. Exactly, but you want to, so it was like. But you want to be, uh, Luca. Luca. Yeah. You want to be Luca, Luca, exactly. So, like, having that representation is important, but what's also important is, like, having that representation in your friend group as a young age.

Because, like, then the things you learn, the, the words you learn, like, it just becomes so second nature. Like, that's almost like when you see these, And that's the crazy thing about the internet. It's like, you see these white kids in the suburbs, like doing dances, wearing clothes, and using vocabulary that they would have no access to without the internet. Without the internet.

Yeah. And that's when it becomes the problem. Because now you take it from. Now they don't even know it's bad. You don't know it's bad. You don't know how to reference. You don't know how to have any reverence for it. You don't know where it's from.

You don't know where it's from. So now you look at this kid and you're like, sure, the commerce side, all right, he bought all the sneakers. But now because you bought all the sneakers, you just made it harder on somebody. else. Nobody thinks about that. Everybody thinks, oh, it's the sneaker game.

And they're not even thinking about it. They're innocently just buying a sneakers because they think it's cool. And now you take them all and now the poor person who, or not the poor person, let's say, because I don't want to offend anybody. The community, the community, the sneakers cool, can't access the sneakers. Can't access the sneaker. The person

who was inspired and came from that community and said, I'm going to make something that has reverence from where I come from. Those people that live there can't get to it because you, took it over there. That's the bigger view of what appropriation looks like. And then that's the tricky thing. It's like, how do you solve that? Because you don't want to say, bring crack bet. Yeah. But you got to put in another neighborhood. They did that. Yeah. You got to put it in. Oh, yeah.

You got, you got to put it in. It did it with fentanyl and shit. Are those people happy about meth? Yeah. Yeah. And I'm so glad. And I'm so glad you ask me. I feel so well versed to answer that question. I've been waiting to answer. that question. We're very happy. It is. And it can make sense. All these TV shows coming out with about the opioid crisis, we're loving it. We're loving it.

We're loving it. Because we love the wire. Yeah. Oh, but it was too, it was just a little bit triggering. It was too close. No, it's nobody. We don't know anybody locked up for meth. Nobody.

We don't know nobody locked up for meth, so it doesn't bother me. So now you see how much fun of white people had in the 80s? No. Yes. Yes, I do. I will say this, though. No, because they just find other areas to lock us up now. Fair enough.

Are you protesting us killing you? Into jail. Get them out of here. Val's won't bail you out, but you'll be there. Taylor got 500. Tail got 500. On it. True.

Yeah, the meth thing is interesting. The meth thing is interesting because, like, the punishment adds up. What do you mean? Or, like, okay. So meth is just, what is meth essentially? It's like, it's like, it's like, adorole. or whatever like that. It's like Adderall,

but like a crazier version of it. I don't know. I don't know what it's specifically. I know it's an opiate. It's considered part of the opiate. I don't think meth is an opiate. I think it's an opium. Yeah,

I think it's an, I think it's like speed. Yeah, yeah. So method speed is, but I think what happens is like the punit, you know how the punishment for crack was way worse than the punishment for Coke even though it was the same shit.

And you were like, yeah. Exactly. But you're like, yo, that's super racist. It's the same fucking thing. The Rockefeller laws. Boom. So I think the same thing goes with meth

Like the meth, the punishment for meth Is way worse than the punishment would be For like illegally having the other thing Another kind of amphetamine Which is good because it's consistent Because I think the punishment is based more On the crime that they see around the drug The distribution.

Well, also distribution And I think that's what was also happening with crack They're like oh shit there's this crime that's going And it was completely fucked up, it's racist absolutely But these rich people could do coke And then when they started to get in the problem They were like, oh, I'm just going to rehab for a little bit, clean my shit out. And with crack, it was like, ain't no fucking rehab in Utah for a couple months.

It's, no, I'm addicted to it. Maybe it's proportion to the addictiveness of the drug. Like, crack, you're so fucking addicted. From what we were taught, your life is over with one puff. Coke, they tell you your life is over with one puff, but you start to get a little bit older. You're like, I haven't, I don't know a lot of functioning crackheads. I know a lot of functioning coke heads. Bro, it's crazy.

Yo, these kids, Coke is a party drug now. now, though. I thought it always was. In the 80s, but not with kids. It was like, I didn't, stockbrokers. There was still, like, at least when I went to school, there was a little stigma to it. Like, motherfuckers were like, I don't know. They could do it, but at the same time, it would be like, oh, you're doing coke. I never heard anybody doing coke in my suburban high school, soft high school.

Oh, I'm in college. They were doing. So going to school in Long Island, they were doing Coke. Really? They were doing coke, and they was doing, and drinking. They, like, kids was drinking when we were in, like, six, seventh grade. By the time we hit high school, they were doing. don't cope. Really? Yeah, I didn't know what the fuck a bump was.

And I'm like, when I heard bump, I thought they were talking about wrestling moves. But that's what you call a wrestling move. Like taking a bump. So I heard a kid say like, oh, taking a bump.

I said, oh, we're wrestling? Nah, I got to sell. Now, y'all, y'all, y'all at your fucking mind. Yeah. I'm going to go back to my side of the neighborhood. Y'all bugging over here. Yeah, you don't even drink. Nah, I don't drink and do nothing.

Off all there. Yo, you got to run. I know you said you got to be out. Yeah. You got to get to that job you took from me? Yeah, 100%. Let's break. Let's do an ad.

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Really? Chicago is so rough. Interesting. So to watch them embrace me. Yeah. I go into the city, not to like, brag again, But, like, I go into the cities by myself. Yeah.

Like, I mean, you might see me with my brother if it's like a rough city or if it's some street shit where it's like I just cover me. But other than that, I go on these cities by myself, in and out. So it's just me on stage and I'm in front of a whole bunch of people that y'all live here. Y'all know each other. Y'all don't know me. Yeah. So to have such a city like Chicago that people talk about like dogs because of what's in drill music

to have them fuck with me. And they're as rough. They're as rough as you think they would be. But it's with love. Yeah, yeah. So when they love you, they really love. Now, if they didn't fuck with you here, I wouldn't have no career. But because they love me, they show me a lot of love.

And in New Orleans. New Orleans is always a good time. It's just such a musical place. It's such a musical city. New Orleans is amazing. I have all the bounce artists come out for me. So, like, I have hot sizzle come out. This last time I was going to have Super Bad come out.

So it's like all those records that you, you know, hot sizzle is the guy you hit on Drake's, what's that one? What's that one? What's that one? No feelings. Okay. And it's the one in the, that bounce moment in the beginning. That person, so that's how to sizzle. So he comes out and he makes them shake their ass and they go crazy.

Like those cities that have like real huge cultural. In Nashville. I can't forget Nashville. Surprise you. Bugged. I didn't expect that. I didn't expect that. We went to Nashville and I was like, oh, we'll probably never be back here.

Yeah. We've been back like four times. Sold out every time. Yeah. Nashville is the shit. Great music city again. Great music city. Yeah.

And always New York. Yeah. I bought Potsmokes mother out this time. Oh, shit. This last time, so I bought Potsmoke's mother out. Next time you're in New York, I'm in there, bro. Listen, that's without a doubt. Yeah, next time in New York, I'm in there, right?

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Okay, I'll go next. You know, I was just saying for bullying the bees or something you wanted to shout out. But, yo, oh, we announced in a, the, Canadian leg of the infamous tour. Just to fill you guys in on some of the controversy that's been going on, there was this venue out there that found out that we were going to perform there. And then they said we couldn't perform at the venue, Massey Hall,

because of inappropriate jokes. So we moved it to another venue and the great people of Toronto. They liked the inappropriate jokes. So they sold that shit out three times. It was crazy. And we said, you know what? I'm not going to let these venues decide whether or not we give the Canadian people the jokes that they want,

the jokes that they need. So we're going to do a Canadian leg of the tour. Those tickets are up right now. Pre-sale code is Schultz, S-C-H-U-L-Z, and we are coming to Vancouver, Montreal, Winnipeg, and Calgary. Obviously, we have the shows in Toronto. Fucker. We might add another Toronto show. I love Toronto.

Toronto's amazing. Yeah, I'm coming to Toronto shows. You got to come through. Those are going to be wild. That's going to be a wild time. So, yeah, DeAndrethorStox.com, make sure you use the pre-sale code. The regular sale goes on sale Friday, but get there early. You could do that right now.

And just more cities. go to the Andrew Shows.com. We added more cities to the tour. Also, I'm getting married. Not going to stop? The goal is to go through the New York show here. I have a show in Atlantic City after that one, but the New York show here, Radio City.

The 16th. The 16th, April 16th. You got to be there, bro. We were spoken about that. I'm going to be there. That's going to be fun. So, yeah, the goal is to go through that. And then I want to do, well, I can't announce it just yet.

Oh, that's my favorite. Those are my favorite ones. We're going to do some fun shit. We're going to talk to us. Taylor. Also, go to Bullying the Beast podcast, the Instagram. Go to Link. We got a live show coming February 5th.

And for those who I know how New York is with like, you know, vaccine and cars and everything, you guys can stream too. And they're actually cheaper than the other tickets to actually be physically there. But yeah, there's going to be game, special guests. And Wax is going to give his idiotic, brilliant advice live. And so we'll lower you. Well, I'm going to be there if I'm in town. Yes, check out February 5th. February 5th.

That's my parents. That's my parents' birthday. I'm going to bring both. I'm going to bring them. I'm bringing. I'm going to be a year apart. Get out of here. February 5th.

I mean, February 5th, one was born. My mom's older than my dad by year. Get out of here. Well, bring you off. You know, honestly, that's fire. There's nothing. I can't compete, bro. No, no.

I mean, just like, for the both of them is like, Let's just do one party for both of us. Oh, here goes the other part. Neither one of them give a fuck about birthday. Of course. So they just be like, they chill. They chill. They're not high-strung about none of this shit.

Yeah, I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. That's the very crazy. Al. Boy, I'm not done. Oh, shit.

Nobody listen to this shit for that. Let's go. Come on. I'm just saying. Cowiat theater. That's it in New York City. What theater? C-V-E-A-T-A-T.

C-A-V-E-A-T. Sure, let's go with that. Caviop Theater in Midtown, and they can get tickets at? At the Bullion. It's an event break, but it's go to Billion the Beast podcast, Instagram, or, you know, anywhere. It's going to be on bringing idiots too. Awesome. We're going to put the link on there, too.

And we're going to be in there. If I'm in town that weekend, I'm there, I promise. Same. And so on the weekend? What day of the week is it? Do you know? Saturday. Saturday.

If I'm in town, I'll be there. Thank you. I'm excited for your first show. Al. And we're recording at W. Media Studios. If you like the quality and sound, come here, book your session,

WTFmedia studios.com. Yes, sir. All right, let's wrap this up. Let's do some asking idiots. You go, yeah, your boy got to make a bowel movement. You boy got to,

I got to move some units. Let's see what we got here. This is based off of, I guess, earlier, how you called out Alex for that's funny. Mr. underscore E underscore Lee, can we create a positive stigma for blacks to join law enforcement?

Be the change. That's a good question. No. I think that's a good question. The answer is no. I know a white person. I know a white person asked that question. No, because the...

Mr. E. Lee? It's either black or Asian. No, Mr. E. Lee, Robert E. Lee. Oh, yeah, that's how I got. I told you. He thought he was slick, huh? He really thought he was slick. Removing Robert.

Ah, ha, ha. Very funny. Okay. The reason I say that is because, one, the inherent, the history of the police force, they were slave troops. They were slave catchers. That's what the police, that's where policing comes from. I don't subscribe to that.

You don't subscribe to the truth? I don't know if that's entirely the truth. So there was no, if we go back in. I've heard this rumor. It's not a rumor. But what you have to understand is like police forces have existed throughout humanity. It was either the army or somebody who was making sure that the law was upheld. Like Rome, I'm sure.

had like a police force. Right. To say that its only purpose was to... Which was the army, which I agree with you. So in, during that time, during antebellum times, there was, the army was the people, you would see the troops visibly in these villages. Right, right, right. Once slavery became a thing, they said, well, it was always a thing, but once it

became the number one export import for America at the time, right. They said, oh, well, we need somebody to go. catch these when they run away and we need to go get some more because people tend to forget slavery is terrible things let's not ever forget that but people tend to forget not all white people could afford slaves it was expensive to have slaves yeah so what would somebody do who's trying to cut course it cut course oh i can't i can't get the real one i can't get these slave the right way or i can't get these slaves the way everyone else i can't purchase them the way everyone else does but i do know somebody who's out here snatching free black people and

and selling them cheaper. Oh. So there was like a white Omar? There was people robbing the dope dealer. Is that what I'm saying? What I'm saying is there were white people that were going out, catching free people and selling them into slavery.

Gotcha. And that is how... That's how people cut course. Gotcha. So to do that, you were using either these vigilantes or these one-off people or you were using the slave patrol.

If you look at these badges, these badges are the same badges. They were using back then. Right. So if you ask me, is there a way for black people

to infiltrate that and change it? No, because the black people that are going into it are being indoctrinated with that same bullshit. So now they're just

doing the same job as the white men. But there was police forces and places that didn't rely on the slave trade as well. There's no question that that was part of the job.

I just, I think that it's kind of misleading to say that that was like the sole purpose of the job and then all of a sudden they started policing other things.

You know what I mean? Like I think that's, I think did, yeah, There's no question that there's a history of it and it's fucked up But I do think that you can enter certain spaces and change those spaces, man Not when it's something that's insidious like this So there's crime man cop Alex here You know you're familiar there's crime everywhere

There's crime everywhere, yes Would you prefer someone from the culture to police their own than somebody outside the culture Who may not know how things go down and then they're going to interact with people of a different culture in a way that they're not used to. So you know there's like people, let's just say white people will go into a neighborhood that they don't feel comfortable. And so black people going, but the black people on these uniforms go into neighborhoods that they're not used to. Yeah, but they have the same reaction. What would you prefer? I would prefer neither one. I would prefer none of them in that. But if you ask me a question. I'm just saying there needs to be though.

I don't, I don't. And that's where I inherently, and that's where I disagree the most. I don't agree with there being a police form. I don't. I do think we would benefit. from abolishing police and then creating something new. Like, but you have to abolish a new. You can't reform. We keep saying we want to reform. It's going to be a police force though.

Right. But if we break what's been, this police form that's been going on, this has been a police form that's been going on for centuries. Yeah. And at the heart of it has been, keep your foot on the black and the poor. So I guess,

I guess what I would say about the police is and I have empathy for them because I feel like, They're the group of people that deal with the problems of systemic racism the most and systemic income inequality. So it's like we put these rules in place to hold down certain groups of people. And when they break the law, I don't want to say maybe largely, but when they break the law because of the situations that they were forced to live in, we got one group of people. who got to punish them for breaking the law. Right. Right?

So it's like, it's like you making these cops deal with all the fuck shit that politicians put in place for years. You see what I'm trying to say? But it's become sure. Like police didn't make redlining, but they help enforce it. Of course.

And you know why they help enforce it? Because they benefit from it. Why? Because they don't want to live next door to niggas either. Sure, sure, sure, sure. They benefit for it. I hear what you're saying right there, but they're also doing it because now I'm not saying

you should just do your job because you should like that's wrong like that's what the fucking Nazis did like they were doing they just did their job you don't do that shit but what is it like you have a moral obligation to break immoral laws that being said I do empathize with the position they're put in where we just make them be the one stop shop for all the fuck shit that we did throughout history it's like we got also take

some accountability and then we got to apply to change to that what I'm saying is just scrap it and they don't want the change I guess what I'm trying to say is if we just scrap it and make a new version of it? The new version got to be better. Yeah, it's got to be better, but it's going to still deal with all the problems we made. So the same problems are going to arise. Income equality didn't go away. Income equality doesn't go away. But with something new, you have new eyes viewing income equality. What about this? What about this? You start fixing the problems that cause these

situations, right? You start dealing with income equality. You start dealing with mental health. don't you think their job will have less fuck up a bull situations? No. See, I think their job will have less fuck up with a little situation. Because the job isn't something they're stepping into.

They're enact, no, no, no. These cops that we're talking about with these fuck-upable moments that cause black people their lives. Everyone, I know other people die, but at the numbers, black people are dying the most out of these fuck-up situations. And what happens is,

It's not so much the job. It's the people going into the job. So the uniform is the uniform. The person that steps in a uniform already has a fucked up view of black people. Already has a fucked up view of white people. Already has a fucked up view of poor people and who is deserving of what.

You get what I'm saying? So now they just have, now this uniform just gives them the wherewithal, the ability and the confidence and courage to act on it. No, I 100% think that there are bad people in every situation. They'll get me wrong.

I guess what I'm trying to say is like, there's a kid who's growing up in a certain neighborhood, let's just say, because it's the most talked about example, like Chicago, where the kid basically reaches a certain age where he's getting beat up every day on his way of school. And he's like, man, I'm tired of getting beat up every day in a way of school. I got to join up with some dudes so I don't get beat up. Okay.

So he got to join up with these dudes and not get beat up. Now he got to do a certain amount of fuck shit so these dudes allow him to be in because you can't just join up, not get beat up. So now you're doing fuck shit that you didn't want to do. You just want to go to school without getting beat up. Right. Now, he can't go to school without getting beat up.

He don't have his dad to take him to school because his dad got locked up off with some weed charge. That's now weed is legal, but he's still fucking in jail. 100% of great. So now and his mom weren't. I see where you're going. So I'm like all these different things. And I'm like, there's only one difference. Well, I guess what I'm trying to say is like, well, what if we started fixing these systemic issues?

So the pop's ain't in jail. We started fixing these. Mom's able to earn a great living. And now we have enough. Now we have the dad who gets a drive to school every school. Now you don't have to join up with this gang. And now a sudden you have a kid. who's not walking around the streets of the gun,

gets in an altercation. And it has to boom somebody. And maybe he doesn't, or maybe a cop is hearing, oh shit, these kids in this neighborhood are crazy, violent. He hears about all these shots.

Now the cop is walking in that situation, black, white, Asian doesn't matter what the cop is. He's walking in with his gun ready to go because he's like, oh, fuck, I hear these kids are shooting. The way you solve that, at least for me,

is you fix the problems that almost forced that kid, or yeah, force that kid into that life. if you make him not have that life, you fix those problems, then the next time that cop sees that kid, he's dapping him up at a fucking police, athletic league basketball game.

A few things inherently wrong with that. One, I think the first one I would address is the fact that I do agree with you with fixing systemic issues. I don't want this to be taking that mouse. I believe the systemic issues are at the root of the problem. But triads to me says,

if somebody comes in with a bullet hole, and they got diabetes. Let me try and stop this. Let me stop this bleeding before I start talking about the motherfucking diabetes. Yeah, I'm with you, yeah. The bullet hole right now is us dying at the hands of police and no one being held accountable.

Yeah. Right? So yes, the systemic issues need to change. They need to be high on the priority list. But what we need to do is immediately stop the bleeding, which is the black bodies that drop and nobody is held accountable for them. Yes, I agree.

Especially when it's done, at the hands of police. Right? So that's what we need to stop. Then the other thing is, how? How? By just getting rid of all police? No, I think at the greater, at the greater,

because they got rid of police, and then the deaths went up. And over in, what was that? Everywhere, where in Seattle? I think that happened in Portland. It happened in Minneapolis. What I don't think it's fair to, Police deter crime.

I'm not saying they're the best that we can't improve police. You can't. I don't think we can because they're doing exactly what they're to do. Well, we can make change. I guess that's a longer, that's a longer discussion. But like, I think we can make a better version of anything.

We can make a better version of an electric car. We can make a better version of the police force. We can make a better version of. I don't think we can make a better version of this police form. We don't think we. You don't think we do? I don't think we can. can because it's in, like I said earlier,

that shit is incestate. It's in the blue. That's what the shit is. The fucked up way to view black and poor people, it's in the blue. You wear that suit and that is the thing. You talk about the quotas. You talk about people pulling you to say,

hey, you didn't pull over enough people this week. You know where you got to go and fix that. That's a real thing. And when somebody stands against it, they silence them and get them the fuck out of it. Yeah, yeah. So maybe we need people of color in those positions of power so they don't get the fuck out of there.

Like Eric Adamson. I don't know. I don't know. No, it doesn't work that way. Yeah. They get those people out of there. Yeah. Because now he's mayor. And watch what the fuck.

Me and Alex are fucked. He's not. He's not for us. That's what I was saying. No, we're fucked. He's a team blue. He's a cop. He wants a cop boy as a cop.

Yeah. And I mean, I don't blame that. Like I see why I feel that way. So I get what you're saying. So you're saying we have to just restart the whole system. Yes. That's what I'm saying. Back to the Iraq.

question when you restart the whole system wouldn't you want representation in that system with a new system yes okay so in just having more black people join this fucked up system is what i'm against but you you recognize realistically we can't restart a system like there's a police we're on i think we're on a brink of restarting a few systems with just the way the last 17 to 24 months have been going i think we're going to see a lot of reset to systems you are leading a charge in a reset of a system, you know, on a, on a different scale, you know, with how you attack comedy and how you attack and how you utilize pot. There's a difference between ideology and, like, behavior and in actuality and, like, systems in place.

So, like, for comedy, the way that I have done comedy and also the way that I put out comedy content, yeah, I can change the way that comics put out their content and then maybe set a standard for how, you know, comedy can be done in an environment where, you know, it's very difficult to make certain jokes, right? So I could do that. But when it comes to like a police force, it's like, there's like budgets and shit that go into it. There's pension funds. Like there's, there's, it's a much different structure. But what you can do is change in ideology that can then affect those systems. Not behind that wall. That's where you and I probably disagree. That wall that says, If a woman cop is raped by another cop,

you shut the fuck up. If a cop, if- I didn't know that was the rule. That code, Alex, tell me what I'm on the code of blue, that blue hole of silence. They're raping female cops? Like, if you just do anything, it's hush-hush. Everything stays in-house.

Right. No one gets in trouble. No one speaks up. Like, yeah. We take care. We police our own, but there's no policing. Yeah, but like a woman cop can't. That's that, wait, wait, so, so listen, listen, I forgot, I forgot, I just seen this shit.

Why isn't she the coat? Why isn't she the blue too? What happened to protect the blue? She's blue. Because there's no such thing as blue. There's no such thing as a blue life. It doesn't exist unless you're in a fucking James Cameron movie. There's no blue lives.

You're still black. You're still white. You're still a man. You're still a woman. And you have to live that life once you take that uniform. off. But they have been conditioned to believe that that uniform is a part of their character. They'll protect the blue before they protect black, white, yellow. We have, and that is the thought process. We have to do away with that. We have to destroy that system and let a new one

begin. But as a former military member, you were a part of the same system. That's a little different. That's why you call it. That's why the police are called a power of military. tell you. And you have no idea why you're killing these people. So I can come home. But it's an equal threat. I'm here. Somebody has a gun.

But they're saying the same thing. They're saying the same thing. They're policing these communities and it's like, hey, I had to do what I do. But no one's attacking them. No one's attacking them. Sometimes people are attacking them. And also, no, no, nobody attacking us. Yeah, but mouse.

When we land, when boots on ground. They're walking into a scene, not knowing what's going to go. Fuck the scene. They're creating the scene. That's what they would say about. us. Who's us? Us America.

Out there in other places. We created a scene. That's what they were saying. Right. And then they send a bunch of useless bodies over there. And then I'm surprised when we come back. And that's why we're living out in the streets and things of that nature. But that's a whole other discussion.

Right. They send us over there. At least when we get there, no one's, no one is going. But this is, this is, sorry and start, but this is a good point where it's just like, we're not going to get rid of the military anytime soon. but you know we could. And I don't want to be painted as I'm super pro-military either. No, no, no, no.

Take care of the people that took care of us. I'm not sure what you're saying. I'm just saying, like, we're not going to get rid of the military anytime soon, but I bet even the people in a military would agree like, yo, like, let's not waste these people's time. Let's not have them fighting pointless wars. Let's not let their fucking legs get blown off for shit that we shouldn't even be there in the first place.

And that's a change in ideology. And I bet even people in the military be like, fuck yeah. I don't want to be out here, you know, having shit explode all around me for no goddamn reason. So where are the, you know, So why don't we also do that to police? We could keep the police, but just find a way to change the ideology. And if that was possible, I would be with you. I am with you.

In theory, yes. There's zero way to do it. Fair enough. For the simple fact, and Alex, my dog, I love him. Alex, I love him. For the simple fact of Alex's first instinct was to what? When we started this conversation, his first instinct was to defend police. I don't know.

That was the first instinct. No, no, no, no. I said it would help to. for inclusion of black people in the police system. Yeah, he didn't say that he was defending what they did. He was like, we need to change what they're doing. Like I was. To a very, very small degree, I was changing the system when I was in it.

Because like, when I saw white cops who would speak a certain way to, you know, defendants that I didn't like, I'd be like, oh, chill. So it's like, that's changing the system from within. And you can only do that unless you have some representation. And you create a more passive environment because now when you're talking to these people, you're talking to these defendants, right? And you're speaking to them in a certain way where they're not hyped up, angry, pissed off

because they've been abused by the fucking court officers and then by the time they get to trial, they're just screaming on people. Right. It's like, nah, they're getting in there with a court officer that might understand them, knows how to talk to them, respects them. And now they're coming into court,

they're like, okay, fine, I might have a shot. I'm not going to have my fistball and I'm about to swing on somebody because these cops are ralting me the fuck up before. I don't know. I could see little change, but I could also see, how someone who is, you know,

have your experience could think that is impossible for change to happen. I would just keep looking at it, right? I've been out the streets. I just know how great white people are. Oh, shit. I know what we're capable of, and I know that we can be the change

we want to see in the world. Listen, we all know. Sis had white males. We all know what y'all capable of. Oh, oh, shit's going to change. Y'all might not like it, but she's going to change. Anyway, look, Mouth Jones, Love you, bro. Thank you so much for coming out, man. I appreciate you holding it down while Charlotte's gone.

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