The Brilliant Idiots - Blanking On Everything

Episode Date: October 17, 2025

In this episode of Brilliant Idiots, Charlamagne Tha God and Andrew Schulz are unpacking everything from the emotional toll of hostage situations to the fine line between free speech and offending the crowd in comedy. They get into what it really means to stay authentic as a comedian, how politics shapes public perception, and why money can sometimes mess with creative choices. Expect honest takes on performing in controversial venues, the chaos of the world today, and the art of storytelling in memoirs. From Arsenio Hall’s lasting influence to Kylie Jenner’s surprising musical debut, nothing’s off-limits. They also dive into Trump’s latest hot takes, moral debates inspired by the Ten Commandments, and what it takes to keep growing—personally and professionally—when the spotlight’s on you. Download Cash App Today: [https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/zt3hy9x9] #CashAppPod. As a Cash App partner, I may earn a commission when you sign up for a Cash App account. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: ⁠https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots⁠ 2Chainz - The Voice in my head is God ⁠Pre Order⁠ The Black Family Who Built America - Cheryl McKissack Daniel ⁠Order Link⁠ Uncommon Favor - Dawn Staley ⁠Order Link⁠ No Holes Barred -Mandi B & Weezy WTF ⁠Order Link⁠ Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks By Charlamagne Tha God ⁠Order Link⁠ Check out Andrew Schulz ⁠www.theandrewschulz.com⁠ Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" ⁠https://blackeffect.com⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yep, Sholomanii God. Andrew Shull. You are the bring idiots podcast. Heather Kyle Walker. What's up? How are you, sir? Man, I'm good, bro. I'm sad that Chris isn't here.

I'm sad that Chris not here, too, man. Why you said that Chris here? No, because it's, I don't know. I just think it's fucked up, man. He's, you know, what happened or whatever. Oh, with China? No, not with China. It was the hostage deal.

He was one of the... They sent him back. A lot. The Jews are like, you know. You've been talking too much shit about us. So we sent in you a back to fucking Palestine, Chris. Hey, man. I mean, listen, when something good goes right, you got to say it went right.

That's all I'm saying. I'm not mad at it. That's all I'm saying. You all, y'all voted for none of this. First of all, I look at- Y'all voted for none of this. No, that's just one thing. He jumped right out of the frying pan and went right into the fire,

ready to go to war with Russia and all kinds of things. He might have time. He's such a wild-ass boy. But by the way, forget Russia. Here's the thing. Let's celebrate a win. Yes, we can absolutely celebrate a win. All right?

One time. Forget America. I mean, forget the world, right? One time for the boy. It's supposed to be make America great again, right? It's supposed to be America first. Yep. Can't end the war in one place and start a war in your own country.

That's a good, that's a good, why are you already moving on to something else? I'm not. I thought we're supposed to celebrate. We can talk about it all. But I do feel like I... Seems like people are jumping off it real quickly. You know, there's a lot of people like, there's a genocide happening, and then the guy literally stops the genocide from having it.

And now people like, but the butt But you know what? There's a butt. There is a but. There is a but. You know why? Because nobody trusts the side. If Hamas says that they... Are you telling me that people are not trusting a deal between Donald Trump, Bibi Netanyahu and Hamas? Exactly.

Are you saying that people don't have faith in a deal between those three characters? So everybody's like, everybody's just like, okay, let's just see what happens. This is. And that's the best thing to do. Take it one day at a time. Because Hamas still doesn't feel like Israel has a right to exist. And this current Israeli government doesn't want a two-stage solution.

So everybody just hope for the best. No, I know, I know. I was being hyperbolic, obviously. I think that a lot of people are hesitant to believe this will stick and they should be because there's a few thousand years of history that shows that it won't stick. So I do, I hear people making that argument all the time. They're like, why aren't you guys celebrating? Why don't you this?

It's because nobody believes it. You know what I am really happy about? Yes. The hostage is being home. Hell yeah. Because in my mind, I'm thinking, can you imagine being a hostage for, how long has it been? Almost two years. There's some change.

That is the thing I'm, that's the thing I celebrate the most. Like, yo, you know what? I'm happy those hostages in a home. Bro, it's wild. I've been watching the hostage transfers on like both sides. That shit is emotional, bro. It's emotional. Just seeing people reconnect with their families.

Can you imagine, bro? There was one that said, I don't know if it's true because everything's fake on the internet, but it was one that said that like they told him that they told him. that his family died. Oh, why he was a hostage? Yeah. Oh, man. So, no, it's fucked up.

But, like, then he goes back. And this is, I think, a Palestinian that went back. So I think that the Israeli government or so says the video, which is obviously fucking fake. You can't believe anything on the internet. But they're like, yo, his family died. And then he goes back and he sees his wife. And he's like, he can't believe it. And then he sees his kids.

He's like, imagine you thought your whole family was doing. He probably think he's dreaming, yeah. I would rather be in a maximum security prison than be a hostage for two years, a hostage in fucking war-torn Palestine and you got to hear all these bombs dropping in shit. But you're saying it's like it's an equivalent, like, yeah, obviously. I don't know. You wouldn't rather be in a supermax than be a hostage in the tunnels of Palestine? They be raping in the supermax?

No, that's not the, no. Not the ones that they're gone from. ever. You don't think they want that halal? You put the al in halal in halal. You're right. You want the little halalix media? But you all right. You know what they go get some of that, bro. But you all right about something. We don't got to compare. We don't have to American way, though.

This is what we do. Come on. Top five. Top five hostages. Go. I don't even know it. That's just the most American shit. We got to take top five lists out of every eye.

Top five is really hot. Top five. I have no idea. I've never heard of this shit. But this is even when everybody would be discussing, like, we want the war to end. We want the hostages to come back. The hostages coming back was always the most logical thing to me because to your point, this has been the war

has been going on for thousands and thousands of years. Bro. Do you know what I mean? We solved it, bro. So hostages home? I'm top tier. You're welcome, yo. I just want to let everybody know you're welcome, okay?

Flagrant went out to the Middle East, and then all of a sudden there's a hostage agreement, there's a peace deal. I'm just saying. Now, what we were told. I'm just saying. This is what we were told. We were told that if y'all comedians didn't go out there,

your family was going to be hostages. that's what we went on. Thank you for letting them go, by the way. I really appreciate you. I hope you liked the jokes. Thank you for letting them go. That's what we would go. Let me have my daughter back.

What happened with that, man? Bro, that shit was so, people are so fucking stupid. We were talking about this on Flagrant, but like, I was thinking about it this whole week and I just hear all these people trying to justify it back home. They're like, America does bad things.

America does bad things. It's like, shut the fuck up. Like, you either have fans in other places or you don't. I will perform for my fans wherever they fuck they are in the world. People don't decide where they're born. They don't decide the laws in the countries where they're from. But they do play a role in me being able to like literally live my dreams.

They watch the special just like anybody else. So you did it for the fans. What was the backlash, though? Tell me what was the backlash? The backlash is just people who weren't invited if they don't even have fans outside of Brooklyn saying that they wouldn't go. What a sacrifice. You can't perform outside of fucking Greenpoint. I keep hearing it was a freedom of speech thing.

Like they don't have freedom of speech over there. First of all, I don't give a fuck about no other country's freedom of speech. We're the only country of freedom of speech. But did y'all have to sign a contract that said y'all couldn't talk about them? Charlemann, Charlema, Charleman. They probably have restrictions. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I put my set out.

I put all the local shit that I did out. You could go see if it looks like I. You can go see it's up on YouTube right now. I bet you nobody else put their shit out. I bet you that. I bet you know that other puts them out. But see you with other countries and I'm saying you'd make jokes about them. So everybody who's making this stuff about like,

restrictions, like what you can or can't say. Yeah. All that restriction shit is people trying to not be in trouble. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, they're just trying to not be the ones accountable. It's like your manager, and I knew this because I'd perform in the Middle East before. And they give you these things like, don't talk about this, don't talk about, don't, and I'm just like, guys, they all are educated in America. Like, they understand shit.

They understand a comedy. They speak English. Like, they get it. You can make jokes about them. You can make jokes about their leader. But people think you can't. They think you can't. Got you.

But you can't. No, they literally was like, you probably be beheaded. Somebody got to cover their ass. So they're, in case you do something. Yeah, three-fourths of cloth. Facts. Yeah. Why don't you have your ass out.

I mean, I'm just saying. I'm like, why don't you need the ass out of me? I know you might tempt somebody. You might tempt somebody. I know. I know you didn't say that over it. Oh, of course. What?

Bro, I did, I had a. You made gay jokes? Bro. Yeah. 9-11 jokes. Bin Laden jokes. What? The whole...

What? This would I go... It's on YouTube? Yeah! Oh, I gotta go wild. When I did it go out? We just put it out now. Oh, oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.

We just put it out right now. Okay. But yeah, it's like this is... I mean, I had this, I had one that was quick. What are you looking up? You're looking up the video? He's feeling. You want to see the video already.

I gotta watch that later, man. But no, this is the thing. It's like, they like humor out there. This is the thing. A lot of people in the West, they just have this complete, it's pretty kind of racist, if you ask me. They just have this complete bastardized view of people in the Middle East, right? And they just can't conceptualize that these guys go to fucking school at Tennessee State University. Yeah. They're watching only American comedy, only American content. They're used to our humor. They don't get to decide the rules in their country.

Yeah. They weren't fortunate and privileged enough to be born into a fucking democracy. We're the only ones with free speech, by the way. Canada don't have free speech. They arresting comedians in England for jokes that they're put on Facebook, like those motherfuckers in Canada, the truckers protested, and they locked up their bank accounts. Like, this idea that, like, we're the norm. We're the outlier. Well, let's see if we can hold on to our free speech. Your boy don't seem to want it. Yo, do you, bro. Yeah. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. No, no. I'll fight toothed enough of free speech, obviously. Like, I don't ever want that. I think it's really important for us 100%. But just this

idea that, like, it's our whole livelihood. Yes, here. But my point is, like, these people are not beneath you performing for them. That's what I don't, that's what I didn't like with the whole rhetoric. And like, if you really want to look at that purity test, basically all the people being critical, they're not saying it, but they are saying, you can perform in white people countries. White people countries. Because name the country that is not a white country that has the rules that are okay

for you to perform in. I see what you're saying. You know what I'm saying? Oh, does India have free speech? No. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like do all these other places.

And then you probably could go over there and get the same. jokes off and nobody would care. I think a lot of this is narrative. They're arresting comedians in India. Because I remember being and I'm going to India. You know what I mean? Like I'm going to all these places because wherever I have fans, I'm going to perform. They're arresting Indian comedians in India. They're not going to arrest you if you

go over there and get there. They're not going to arrest me anywhere. Except America probably. That would be the only place. But like they're not going to do it because... Because you have been critical of Trump and you're not supposed to be once you was on his side. I will compliment him. That's what he doesn't

like the most. Nah, if he gets it right, that picture is crazy. He looked like a balloon. That picture is. He looked like, no. But if he does something good, I'm going to say he. That's what the guy doing your colonoscopy scene. The guy doing your colonoscopy theme.

Everyone gets these jokes. Trump is going to get him. Now, if he does good shit, I'm going to call it out. If he does whack shit, I'm going to call it out, which I've always said. That's what being an American is about. I am interested in the Saudi Arabia thing, though, because I told you. Tell me, tell me. Ask all the questions. I didn't actually didn't tell y'all, because we edited it last week.

I had to make sure we were going to come back. I know, I know. I get it. I get it. We had to get back to America. But we were, when I was in Abu Dhabi, which is another place people have a lot of United Arab Emirates. Of course. Right? Yes.

But when I was in there, when I was in Abu Dhabi, I remember Anthony Anderson was there and he had just came back from Saudi Arabia. Yeah. And the woman who was with him was like a woman who, I guess, handles like, the entertainment and stuff over there. So she was like, oh, you know, Shalaman, and she was talking to me, and in Anthony and all in them, we're talking to me about how Saudi Arabia is the, you know, they're already leaning into sports, but now they're about to be leaning in the entertainment.

And then, you know, you hear other people talk about the fact that their oil reserves are depleting. So they got to find other ways to get money. I don't know if that's true or not. I'm just saying what they say. Maybe, maybe. But we do know they are making a large investment into sports and entertainment. That we know. It might.

So why. So why did all, why did the comedians? get so much flack, but golf doesn't? You're talking about doing a basketball league? I don't know if this is true, too. We got WWE, they got UFC. WFC, they're talking about doing a basketball league. I think I saw it with Brown and Maverick.

I don't know if that's true. I'm just telling you what they were saying. Why did the comedians get the flag? Here's why. This is my opinion. And this is where comedians can take accountability. We have politicians on our podcast. And when you have politicians on your party,

you know there's more than anybody. Once you have a politician on your platform, You enter yourself into the political mud-slinging discourse. Okay. And politics is a zero-sum game. So, for example, it's like if Charlemagne has liberals on a podcast and you back Kamala and whatever, you are seen by the people that are your opposition as evil. And any chance they get to show that you're a hypocrite or show that you're bad or you do anything,

they do it because that is the political game. In a game of power, you use whatever you can to maintain power and to make your opposition look bad. So we had the politicians on the pod, which I don't regret, but we had the politicians on the pod. Say it again. I don't regret it. Not at all. Not at all. And you shouldn't.

Not for a fucking second. Not for a second. So, but we had to be accountable for the fact that like now we're part of the political discourse. And the political discourse is how can I call you a hypocrite or how can I say that you're not living up to my purity test? And then it launched into this whole thing with the Saudi Fest. But like, it really has nothing to do with Saudi. It has to do with the fact that like there are these. political figures were not political, we're comedians, but there are these people that are in that

conversation. How can we malign them? How can we do it? Different people got different things. Bill Burr was getting criticism for one thing. Bill Burr got criticism because, to your point, we almost got, we got like zero criticism. Yeah. Because we were the only one from y'all. They expect you all. They expect Bill Burr to do it. They're like, Bill Burr, no, you're supposed to be our liberal, woke champion. You know, we got you on this pedestal. And they was like, what? You're over there performing for societies? That's, and it's not Bill Burrower. fault, but it's just that they look at Bill in a pure way. And he, maybe, maybe you could argue, like, his more recent material presented one thing.

I think people were frustrated with him even before because I think that, you know, Bill's, like, one of most prolific ever, and he was doing a lot of, like, women are annoying jokes that he's the best at. And I think he built his WNBA reality show jokes. He's phenomenal. Top tier. But I think he built up a right-wing audience who maybe kind of, like, sided with a lot of that sentiment.

And then when he started maybe leaning left, which you can do as you feel different things in the world, you're allowed to change your human being at the end of the day. But when he started to lean left with the material, all those people on the right felt kind of like abandoned and felt criticized maybe by him. So they were waiting for a moment where he was a hypocrite. And then Bill got to look, too, though. Because, I mean, you hear what comes out of his mouth. But when you see him, you know what I mean? Ball head, white guy, you like, yo, that's one of us. You know what I'm saying?

He hates his wife like I hate sides. You see his look, you hear one good WMPA reality joke. Like, ah, I got him. And then when the whole manosphere, bro thing, whatever they was trying to create come up, you just lump him in that. And then you hear him and you're like, whoa. Yeah. Whoa.

Whoa, buddy. Yeah. You know? So I can see why that could have been confusing. I can see how both sides could have been confused. I felt bad for, a certain few I felt bad for him. Like who? I felt bad for Aziz a little bit because Aziz really got.

canceled on some bullshit back in the day. This was like height of me too. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And like some girl pulled some bullshit and he got fucked up. I remember. Yeah, I remember. And he was just coming back. Like he got a movie coming out. Like and he just took this gig and they were doubling down. Like Kimmel kind of went at him. At Aziz? Yeah. I missed all that. I mean, honestly, this was like a comedian Civil War. Because it was

mostly comedians I saw criticizing other comedians and comedians sticking up for other comedians. It didn't really get much traction outside of the comedy world. It started to, but then people realized like, nah, this shit ain't got the heat. That's what I was saying on Flager. I'm like, yo, this is nowhere on my timeline. It wasn't. It started to.

But listen, this is what I tell comedians. Like, so like a lot of the comedians that were like involved in this are operating in like the euphoric stage of a stand-up career, right? It's like they just started posting clips and they got a fan base. And they toiled in obscurity for decades. They got a fan base. They're the unsung hero of their fans. Like, I remember this stage where they're like, you're the truth.

Nobody else knows you but us. They could tour. They can make tons of money. But they haven't transcended into like pop culture yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And what happened is... Only a few do, though. Well, that's true.

But what happened is this comedy festival kind of pushed into what they thought was pop culture for a second. So they started getting all this hate. And I think a lot of them were like, oh, my God, I worked my whole life to have fans. And now it looks like all my family. fans hate me. They don't realize that it's this fake outrage thing. In two weeks, nobody will give a fuck. A week from today, nobody will mention the Saudi comedy film. They're not mentioning it now.

That's what I'm saying. We're giving it more. We're giving it another week. Well, I have to get back safe. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. We're giving it another week. I also will say, too, to all of those new up-and-coming comedians, if you're getting fake outrage, you've arrived. Is this the reality of the situation? It's when they don't give a fuck is when there's an issue. Okay, if they're on your timeline and they're giving you fake outrage, cool. But they don't realize that, like, those people

are not their fans. They're the people that are, like, perennially outraged. So they think it's their fans that are all leaving them, and the internet can make you feel like that. Once you've gone through enough, like, internet shit, like we have for fucking decade, you realize it's all bullshit. Numb to it.

Exactly. But they're not. It's, like, the first time for them. So they freaked out. They're like, I'm pulling out of the festival. I'm giving my money back. I'm donating it to charity. And guess what?

Nobody gives a fuck. And nobody can't. And now you lost all your money. You lost all your money and nobody's patting you on the back. There's no reward for, you know, you doing what these motherfuckers have forced you to do. All of these people will get online, have all of this outrage towards you. Then when you do what you want them to do, they'll say, no, you never should have took it in the first place. We know who you are now.

Get the fuck out of here. And I don't know who they are. You never going to make it. You got to be unapologetic. And that's the thing that like, I think on brilliant, it's been great. On flagrant it's been great. We've never been to virtue signaling motherfuckers. No.

We're assholes through and through. We're brilliant idiots through and through. So even when I believed what I believed, I believed it. Yeah, and I'll call you gay. That's it, you know what I'm saying? Like, you never going to hear me say something that I don't believe. Now, will I stay there? Probably not because I'm always taking in new information.

They're allowed to. And I allow myself to grow in a love, unlike so many other motherfuckers out here who get stuck in a caricature. They're afraid to pivot. They're afraid to grow. They're afraid to evolve. They just spend their whole life virtue. for a bunch of motherfuckers who never come. You don't realize that.

Yeah, I do. It's like a badmanned in the air. That motherfucker never comes to fight. Never. Never. Never. And now you censored by your own audience. You're talking all this free speech shit, but you can't even have your own opinion.

You got to make sure your opinion lines up with your own audience. If you're going to be censored by your own audience, just get a job at Comedy Central. Get a job. Get a job at CBS. Get a job at someone who's going to dictate what you can or can't say. What's the point of being an independent content creator if you can't do the things you want independently? I will say this, though.

I'm glad you bought that up. There is a misconception that people in corporate America have people telling them what to say. And there's also a misconception that people online are free. And what I mean by that is there's people on these networks, not a lot of them, but there's people that are willing to take these risks, right, that work for corporate America. And then there's people who have the independent platforms who are at the first sign of some outrage, the first sign of threat of demonetization, first sign of a lawsuit.

That's what I'm saying. So are you, who's really free? Freedom is just being free and not being scared. Freedom is being yourself. Being your fucking self. Sometimes yourself is going to piss people off. That's it. Sometimes it might upset your fan base, but if they actually fuck with you for you, not because

you're a voice for the things they already feel. Like they know you as you. Yes. They'll be upset at you and then they'll be like, all right, but I like that other shit. I don't like when I know exactly how a motherfucker is boring. I'm like, all right, I already know what that person's going to do. I know what that person going to do. Like, who's out there really just sitting back

looking at things from an objective viewpoint? Like, even with the Saudi shit, I don't think anybody sat back and looked at it from objective viewpoint. First thing I thought to myself was, okay, what are they mad about exactly? Why can't you perform in Saudi Arabia? Because I'm so confused

that y'all let all of the sports people go over there, right? There's entertainers that's been going over there getting checked. Why is all of a sudden the comedians getting backlash? And it's not like Saudi just got in the game. Saudi been around for a decade plus dropping bags on shit. They just bought EA fucking sports. So that's the beautiful thing. You better stop playing FIFA.

If I catch you playing FIFA. FIFA. You better, if I catch you playing... FIFA for fun, Matt. If I caught you playing any of these games, bro, you're a sellout. Why are you selling out? NBA 2 paved. Wow.

This is what I'm saying? It's like all these comedians put their like, what is it, drew a line in the sand or whatever. They put their foot down. It's like you're going to now have to pass that purity test over the next few years. And people are going to remember you said this. Let's look this up. Let's see what Saudi Arabia had. What is it?

Rihar. Who is it? Riyadh. Riyadh. What has Saudi, what is Saudi? Oh, let's say. Oh, Charlotte. What am I saying, Arabia?

And Rida. Saudi. What has Saudi Arabia? And Rida. What is, how you spell it? Riyadh. And Riyadh invested in in America. Let me see.

Let's see. Because I need to know, bro. Because I really was just looking. I'm like, I know. Why are they invested in mad sports and shit like that? I just love how you embraced AI. This motherfucker was no AI, no AI. Did you?

Did she, yeah. Once it started talking in his own voice, he was like, ah, this shit ain't that bad. He loved this shit. This shit gave me a whole. I just want sports and entertainment, my guy. Hold on. No, just give me sports and entertainment, okay?

Just give me sports. But we don't, to me, it's like. No, I like the hammer with a point. All right, hammering. Sometimes you got a hand with a pointer. Hammer him. But they hear you talking and they'd be like, really? Yeah.

Okay, live golf, PGA Tour Golf, FIFA Club World Cup, ATP Tennis, the Zone. Oh, we knew that with the boxing. Project B is a new basketball league. Entertainment, Live Nation concert and live events, video games, e-sports, digital entertainment. So Piff invested in Live Nation Entertainment owner of Ticketmaster. You know what I'm saying?

Bro, it's Saudi Capital has big, yeah, it's all, it's everything. And so it's too much for you to just be mad at the comedian. Even if they didn't do any of it, if I got fans that I'm performing for you. Simple as that. I'll perform anywhere my fans are. The L. Hughley said, if you're not mad at golf, don't be mad at fucking comedians. I think he said. Maybe it was the wrestlers.

If you're not mad at the W.E, don't be mad at comedians. I don't remember what the fuck. It was one of them. 100%. And also there's like this thing about the money that I think is so funny. Yeah, let's talk about that. Because comedians make this thing. Let's talk about that bag.

Comedians made it seem like it was like this life-changing money. They were being sarcastic. There's a few comedians that said like, Shut your rich ass up, man. I'm just telling you. Okay, man. Shut your rich ass up, man. I'm telling you, man.

I'm telling you, I know what everybody got. You got to, it takes four days to do one show in Saudi Arabia, right? You fly there for a day. You fly back for a day. You do a show for the day. Maybe you want to do one day before so you can kind of get to know the place you're talking. If you do four shows in America, if you're doing four arenas, If you're doing four arenas and four cities in four days,

which is like what we'll do if we're on tour. Yeah, because everybody's doing arenas. If you do four arenas and four, everybody's doing arenas, huh? I can't help you, bro. I can only show you the game, bro. Talk that tough. I can only show you the game. That's all I can do is show you the game.

I'm just saying it isn't it. I'm tired of people not wanting us to be who the fuck we are. Why did it get so mad? Why are you so mad that I'm talking to you about my life? I can't help. You appreciate this shit. Why can't they? You watched it from the beginning.

But ours, our fans do, though. It's the people that weren't there from the beginning to get upset, man. It's the ones that weren't there for the beginning to get upset. I'm telling you. Now, go back, go back. You can do four readers in four days and what? Or if you are, there's a bunch of comedians. It's like, you can make the same money.

It's the same money. Like, so it's not this, oh, you're just going there for the money. Okay. If you go in there for the money, then you made a mistake. You can make it here. I don't want you to know you're at this point right now. You're only talking about five comedians. Yeah.

You're talking Dave, Chris, okay. Who else doesn't read this? I don't know. Who else does arenas? What's my man name? Russell Peters. Like who else? I can only talk about what I know.

Jane Gillis. Yeah. You're talking about four or five people. Top's right. I can only talk about. Okay. So what if you're a comedian who does like you do your comedy clubs on the weekends? Maybe you got a crazier bag.

And maybe it was really great for you. I don't know how much they made, and I can't speak on that. Give me a basic bag for writer, not your bag. Just give me what you heard. Like, what's the lowest number you heard somebody got? The lowest? Yeah. The lowest I heard was like $350.

So, yeah. So imagine you're a comedian that's making $2,000 a weekend doing comedy clubs or like $3,000 a weekend doing comedy clubs and you get that. $3.50 for four days? That's life changing money for you. So there's no question at all. That's right. I'm just saying, like, the headlining acts of the people that were getting scrutiny, saying that they threw away their morals for the money,

it's not accurate. It's just not because they can make that money back home. They can make that money when they tour, right? It's, I would assume, and I'm maybe giving them the best, I'm giving them the most grace here, but I'm assuming they did it for the reason I did. It's like they have fans there, and they want to perform for their fans.

Like, that's why I think you should do it anywhere. What did you think of Dave's comments? Pull up Dave's comments, Alice, because I don't want to misquote him when he said that, pull it up. Probably, let me see. let's see what the with the charlie kirk shit yeah i just want to quote i just want to quote it correctly i i i don't know the whole context because like the headline is so stupid that it can't be the

whole context because i think i kind of understood what he was saying right all right really he said um okay yeah during his headline and said at the write a comedy festival in october david me the following remarks, criticizing free speech in the U.S. It's easier to talk here than it is in America. Write down in America, they say that if you talk about Charlie Kirk, you'll get canceled, adding, I don't know if that's true, but I'm going to find out. Now, I feel like, I can correct, I could be wrong here. I feel like what he was trying to do was almost like shame America into never being a country of free,

of not being a country of free speech. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm over here in this foreign country that's known for musseling people. And I feel like it's easier to talk here than it is in America. Yeah. I mean, like, and again, I don't like judging people off like one line because a lot of shit can be taken out of context. But like, and I assume Dave is not that retarded. So like there must be something more that goes along with it.

But like, yeah, it's easier to talk about Charlie Kirk there because they don't even know the fuck that guy is. They think he's the guy from Star Trek. trick. Good point. But if you try to talk about Muhammad there, it might be a little more difficult than if you talk about Muhammad in America. Good point. So I, but again, I don't know that's a good point. That's a great point. I don't know the full thing that he said. Like, he could have undercut it with a joke, but the headline is removing that. So I'm giving him benefit of the doubt for not being that stupid. I wonder if he would have kept Charlie Kirk out of it, would it have made a larger point. If he would have just say, you know, it's easier to talk here

than it is in America right now, which is probably still, which probably still isn't true, right? Yeah, of course not. But you went over to- America is the only country where you could say whatever. It's also a very different thing. Like, we're American comedians and like foreign comedians

going over to this big festival. Like, realistically speaking, even if you said the craziest shit, you really think you're getting arrested and chopped up. You never know? Nobody else is going to Saudi Arabia if that happens.

So they're not going to do it. So we have probably the most free speech and the most protection ever over there because it would make them look so bad. When you're making good points, you're making good points, You ain't wrong when you're right.

You're right. That's why anytime. And if you try to make an investment in the sports and entertainment world and you want to see a welcoming to America, you're going to be very welcoming. Honestly, that might have been the most free you could ever be anywhere.

Because if you get locked up and fucked up there that weekend, it screws up anybody going there for a long time. So they're not about, they're not stupid. Like, they're not going to let that happen. That's why I knew I could say whatever the fuck I want out there. Now, that being said, the people there,

they might feel a different way. But in terms of like, can you say more in America or there? It's like there's not a country on the planet that you can say more than America. We are the outlier. We are the unique one. And that's what makes us the best in the world.

I wonder if comedians who gave the money back or pulled out, I wonder if they were rewarded by people showing up to their shows here in America. No, they're not. You know what I'm saying? I know they not.

Because the people showing up to their shows weren't the ones angry. Yeah. It's a fake outrage thing. that they're not used to because they haven't transcended into this like pop culture conversation where like every single day people need to be outraged at something. Fortunately or unfortunately, we've been through that for years. So we know like, okay, they're fake upset about this.

What are they fake up? What is the Duval thing? What do you fake upset about? What you are you about today, man? The people who love you love you and they know you and they follow you enough to know who you are and what you're about. Unless, of course, you've built your entertainment identity around one political philosophy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Then those people don't really love you. They love the fact that you agree with them. Yeah. And the second you disagree with them, they go, I guess I don't really love that guy. But you decided to glom on to something that existed. You know, some might say grift off of something.

And then when they found out who you really are, which is not this perfect pious person, then they're like, ooh, these been lying to me the whole time. I wish people knew that the shit y'all think motherfuckers is grifting about is the shit we don't get paid for. Bro. It's the shit we lose money on it. It's the wilds and shit.

They be like, are you drifting off mental health? What money have I made off mental health? I've spent way more money investing in other people's mental health and my own. You don't even get a discount from his therapist. I don't even get a discount from my therapist, bro. I do the Mental Wealth Expo for free. We either at the Joel and Diane Bloom Wellness and Events Center this weekend in Newark, New York, New Jersey. You've been doing it the last four years in Times Square.

You know why? we had to move it to Newark. Number one, I like Newark better, right? But Newark is already too depressing. You can't bring already sad people into Newark. It's going to be a mass suicide. I like Newark better. You know what I'm saying?

I think it's a city that needs it more. But also, the venue's more affordable. You understand what the fuck I'm saying? So y'all don't even know what the hell you'll be talking about 99% of the time. It's, it is what it is, bro. It is what it is. What that bag was like, though. I'll tell you, I'll tell you on the side.

You told me that last week, I forgot to text you. Yeah, I'm gonna text you again. I just like the note. Alex did a joke. I did. We brought him on stage to do a joke. Oh, you got a bag, Alex? Those are a couple bucks.

I need a little sound. There you go. Write it down, write it down. Technically, I had, technically, a headline. If you were a comedian. Yeah. A headline the show. If you were a comedian.

Yeah. He is. He was on stage doing a joke. Okay. Let's see if I can get up this joke. Let's say you did four comedy clubs. You just say you did two weekends at the comedy club. Bag bigger than that. He's not getting paid by Riyadh.

He's getting paid by Andrew. Yeah. It's an accent. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure he still take care, you know. It's good. I always do. You want to see how I was joke?

Let me see how I was joke. No, no, no, no, we'll not do that here. Hold on. Let me see Kyle's joke. Okay. It's on the special? Hold on. Let me get it up right now.

I showed it to you. Did they laugh? Yeah. I heard it. You murdered out? Come on. I got it. Okay.

I need to bring out all the guys then. Let me bring out all the guys. Give it up for the whole flagrant crew. Akashin. Okay. Boggagging on. Akash. Looking like one of them.

We've all been waiting for. Okay. Guys, be polite. Stam and always. This is his first time doing it. And he's doing stand-up. You can't buy him. That's a bad one.

Just need to make sure everyone knows this is not a bidding I saw some people in the back throwing out number 300 400 no no we cannot do that okay Alex take it away but how much though this is the real Dubai chocolate Love the gish, you know? No. All right. Watch it.

So, I'm blanking complete. We need a little support. We need a low support. I'll dress. He dressed as a Lebanese train conductor. I need you. I need you to get a low support. You remember the time.

topic. Okay, now we got it. Now we got it. So, I do love being out here. Watch this kid. The fits go hard. I love that fit. I love that fit right here. It's really the only place that I can be surrounded by a bunch of dudes in white sheets and not be afraid for my life. That's a good joke, bro. That's a good joke. I hate it. You hate it on the breakfast club. He's not rapping. It was one foot in the Grave, it was kind of like a special Olympics shot, bro. Yeah, that's what it is.

Yeah, it was kind of like the Special Olympics. We put the autistic kid at the end of the fourth quarter, and he started hitting some threes, bro. It is, it is. It is. This student who has special needs was passed the ball at the final seconds of the game. He took the shot from three and missed,

but the opponents actually grabbed the rebound and then gave him the ball again to shoot one more time. This time he hits the shot at the buzzer, and all of his teammates run over to celebrate. I like that. You get up there and do stand up. I like the beginning, though. I like his, I like his cadence when he goes,

your fits go hard. Like a ball was bouncing over each word when you were getting. Watch the kids. Nah, I like completely blanking on something like that. And then Andrew had to come, put his hand around you and let you know, like, that's okay, it's okay, rub his back, you're a strong boy. You're a strong little boy.

You can go out there and get this shot, get this shot. All right. Congrats. That was good. No, fuck you. Yo, you're very brave. Fuck you, Chuck. That was good. We're about to be fighting out here like out some podcast right now.

That was good, man. That was good, man. Ardy Alex. Little Audi Alex and Saudi Arabia. That was good. Listen. I got a laugh, though. No, you did.

You did. I mean, it's just like when they cheer, when the kid makes the shot at the game. When you bring the little kid out there in the wheelchair, you know what I'm saying? And he shoots the basket. It goes into hoop. Everybody says, even if it don't go into hoop, everybody's shit.

No. Yes, it was a bad joke. If it was a bad joke, I would have got it. I wasn't a bad joke. I fans are real. No, it wasn't a bad joke. It was, um, fuck you. I heard a, I heard it a little bit just keep digging your, no, stop it.

Just keep digging your phrase. It didn't get to the N-word, though. But they didn't keep digging your phrase. Whatever. Oh, I'm glad. you had fun, man. Man, we had a great time. Stephen A. Smith, did you see Stephen A. Smith

um... Pull up. Click on pull up. Now, if you remember back in the day, not back in the day, earlier this year, after the Super Bowl, Stephen A. Smith had some words for Alex, Alexis O'Hanian and Serena Williams. Alexis O'Hanian is the husband of Serena's husband. Yeah. If I'm married

And my wife is going to join trolling her ex. Go back to his ass. Because clearly you don't do you. You don't belong with me. What you worried about him for and you would be? And so Alexis pulled up on first take. Now, he pulled up on first take, but Stephen A. Smith wasn't there. Stephen A. Smith was there virtually.

So I, oh, yeah, let's play this. Let's play this. Let's play. Here, go. Stephen A. Smith, you had some, I think you had some marriage advice for me. Is that right? or? Well, you know what? Listen, I did it. People, you know, headlong to have one. We can get into that another time, but I was hoping, I was hoping you were, I was hoping you were going to be here.

But, but, oh, I'm no, no, no, I am not qualified. Oh, no, not me. Well, that's, I, I ain't, I'm qualified. I was, I was going to ask, because you hadn't been married before, right? I am married. No, no, see. He hasn't. Okay, okay. Yeah, because I, I give advice to plenty of founders who want to build billion-dollar companies. And the reason I do that is because I build a billion-dollar companies. Yeah. So I generally try to stay in my lane and advice department. Then we'll talk my own and device later.

All right. We got you. Alexis, thank you so much. Athlos, NYC, two-night event in New York. He didn't need all that billion-dollar company shit. He had him at the, when Stephen A. Smith was doing that, that's all, folks. Rub it in.

Exactly. But here's my thing. This is what I say. Let's go back, click one over. This is what I say. Let's. what Alexis O'Hanian did or whatever. I don't see nothing wrong with he said.

You know what I mean? I don't see nothing wrong with it, but it wasn't a real pull-up. A pull-up is when the person is there and you say what you need to say to the person's face. I know Alex is a busy person, but when first take, I ask him to come on, he should have said,

is Stephen A going to be there? And when they said he's going to be there remotely, he should have said, I'll wait until he's in studio. If you really want to say something in his face. I respect pull-ups when it said to a person's face. I think y'all be doing backflips just because he said it while Stephen A was remote. No, I want to see you said to a person face.

You know what Birdman wanted to say what he said to me? Birdman called a week in advance to say, I'm coming on this day and I want to make sure. Interesting. So you thought it was soft for him to do it and Stephen A not be there? No, I don't think it was soft for him to do it. It was the reaction that everybody gave it. You know what I'm saying? Like that's a, like you're talking via Zoom.

Now, Alexis left a comment and said, all my friends called me Alexis. To you? Yes. And I asked to come on first. take the chat with Stephen A. Smith for quite some time. Keep in mind, I own a handful of pro sports teams and started a TF league. There's plenty of sports stuff to talk about, and my publicists kept getting told it wasn't going to happen. Then I went to the top and made it clear I wanted to come on the show to chat in person and they let it happen. Then I found out when I got

to the studio, Stephen A. Smith was remote from ATL that morning. Odd timing, but I'm back to building now. Atlos was indeed a huge success and have no ill will towards Stephen A. Smith. I don't have a problem with, you know, uh, Alexis saying what he said. I'm just saying, don't act like, you know, y'all just don't act like the kid from the Special Olympics making a shot and Alex telling a joke and riot and everybody going crazy. He's a hater because he's scared to do stand up himself. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, it's just like, yo, everybody does these backflips. It's like, yo, Stephen A. Smith was via Zoom. And I'm not saying that Alexis

wouldn't have said that to his face. I'm sure that Alexis would have. I just, you say pull up. I respect the face-to-face confrontation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Before Birdman came on Breakfast Club, Malcolm, Malcolm used to work for Universal, called a week in advance. Yeah.

Hey, Stunner wants to come on the show on this date. Yeah. Are you going to be there? Yes, I will be there. You sure? Because he only wants to come if you're going to be there. Yes, I will be there. I'm fully aware of the things that I've said about Birdman. I understand he wants to confront me.

See, I'm not one of these media personalities that says things, but then ducks any type of smoke. I think that's whack. What people don't realize, even on Breakfast Club interviews, there's not one Breakfast Club interview that I couldn't have edited. We pre-taped. None of this stuff is live.

So when you see Beating Siegel or Fredro or, who I would say, Math to Pete, whoever it was, name that any of these people, I could have edited all of that or not put it out. That's not fair for me to get on the microphone, say what I want to say about people and not be there. Now, on Stephen A's side,

if y'all tell me Alexis is going to be there, unless there's something super, super duper pressing and I got to be out of town, I'm going to be in studio. I'm not even going to get on Zoom and talk to this man for however long he spoke to him before Alexis said something at the end because I'm fully aware of what I said to this person.

So I want to be in the studio to have said conversation. And either I'm going to stand on what I said, or I'm going to apologize for what I said. Or I might stand on it and say, yeah, I did say that. But, yo, my bad, you know what I'm saying? I understand your perspective of where you're coming from. I'm just telling everybody, like, don't treat this like the white guy that can dance. You know, the white guy that can dance.

Everybody loses their mind. This is doing a regular basic dance. Like, Alexis said what he said. Yeah. But I respect the moment. It's just face to face. Well, it's not Alexis's fault. But both of them.

That's why I said. If I'm Alexis, I need to make sure Stephen A is there. Now, if Stephen A decides not to show up, isn't that on him? That's why I said. I need to make sure if I'm Alexis, Stephen A is there. I don't need to... Yo, is Stephen A going to be there? Is Stephen A going to be there?

Yeah. I don't want to come through the show, but is Stephen A going to be there? Because I got some things I need to say to Stephen A. Athletes do that all the time. Athletes be like, oh, no, I got something to say to Stephen A. I want to make sure Stephen A is there. Stephen A would make sure he was there if an athlete had something to say to him. He wouldn't do it face-to-face, and we wouldn't like it.

Imagine if K.D., was, remember when Kyrie Irving and Stephen A were having these shit? Yeah. Imagine if Kyrie was like, y'all want to come to first thing. We wouldn't like that shit the same if Stephen A was on FaceTime and Kyrie was in. Oh, forget Kyrie. Stephen and Braun? Why was he there? Who? Alex. Alexis. He was promoting, um, it says on the thing, he was promoting, uh, some shit I can't pronounce. Hold on. It's called, uh, Atlos. What is atlos? Atlas. A-T-H-L-O-S. I don't know. So he was there to promote atlose. But, see, this is my problem. Look at all these headlines. Terrina Williams, husband, Alexis O-N, confront Stephen A. Smith for Super Bowl comments. A billionaire, destroy star over divorced laughing.

It's like, it was over Zoom. Yeah, but it's also like, if he doesn't say anything, then it looks soft on his part. I don't have a problem with him, nothing. You're basically saying, like, the internet is doing what the internet does. But also, in order to- That's not a pressing. Yeah, but the thing is that, like, in order to get anybody to click on anything, it needs to be the craziest headline.

Like, people, I don't think anybody watching were like, oh, shit. Like, I think the headlines are way crazier than the actual reaction. But I think you do give the guy credit for going on to go into someone's workplace and calling them out what they said. I have no problem with it. Just make sure the person is home. And you get a lot more points for me if you slam dunk on a person with your nuts in his face. So you're basically saying he's getting too many points. You respect him doing it, but you would give him even more points if Stephen was there.

I can dunk on Dwight how it would be your FaceTime. Now, if you called Dwight on FaceTime right now, I'd dunk on him. Call Shaq right now. I'd be like this on FaceTime. Can't do it in real life. And I'm not saying Alexis wouldn't. Right. I'm just saying you get more props for doing it.

For good. Okay, I'll give you another. You ever seen the video of the guy? Yeah. Like an A-Rab or something. And he's playing on like the Nerf goal. Oh, yeah, I love that guy. He's like in an office.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Real basketball. Yeah, but that shit's fire. It's fire. The finger rolls crazy. Okay, so that's cool. But it's a difference when you watch somebody do it in real life. Not knocking Alexis.

I thought, you know, you defend your wife. Cool. Yeah. I'm just saying I'm a person that when you call something a pull-up Yeah. When you call something a pressing. Well, he never called it. He didn't do that.

This is the internet thing. That's what I'm saying. I'm not, my, my, nothing, nothing I said has to do with Alexis. You think he's just getting, you think he's getting the, uh, the disabled kid points. Yes. From the internet. Like, but by the way, the internet don't even know what pressing is anymore. That's why when you see two people in a studio having a conflict and going back and forth,

you're on the edge of your seat because you're like, oh my God. This is a real interaction. I don't know where this could go, right? And we come from the era of fucking, what was it, Chris Everidge? I don't remember whatever it was. Choking out Jim Roe? Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

We come from that. So I just, I come from a different era where I like to see the pull up or the pressing, the confrontation. They got to be in each other's face. I didn't even know that Stephen A was on FaceTime until I watched the video because of how the internet was reacting. Right. So the internet's making it seem like, I'm like, oh shit, I got to go watch this and I'm watching it. like, what? I think to them, it's no different.

Like, they're used to watching conflict on Zoom. They're used to watching debate on Zoom. They're used to watching, like, somebody owned somebody on Zoom. Like, it's almost normal to them. And this is why, this is when I become the old man in the room. Yeah, we're old. I don't respect it. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? I like face-to-face conference. But that's, I mean, not to bring it back. People get real sporty when it's over Zoom. That's not to bring about the Saudi. It's like a lot of people saying what they would or wouldn't do. You didn't even get the opportunity. Go, but.

go there and do it. Go there and do it. You could say whatever you want about, oh, they're going to hold back and they're going to do this. And it's like, all right, well, I'll put my setup. And you tell me if I held back, you tell me if I didn't talk about the government,

if I didn't talk about the family, if I didn't do all these shit. Now, there's still going to be people whining and commenting. They won't even watch the fucking thing because that's what they get off on. But the reality is like, are you willing to pull up or not? And I think a lot of people would rather sit back and criticize and actually pull the fuck up.

Let's have a conversation. Let's have a conversation. Let's have a conversation. That's always, that's always my, thing, let's have a conversation. I'm never afraid to have the conversation. Now, Alexis was not, was clearly not afraid to have the conversation because according to what he said to me on Breakfast Club AM Instagram page, he didn't even know Stephen A. wasn't going to be there. That makes sense? I believe that. But I'm just saying, let's make sure he's there next time.

If you really, especially over something like your wife. But next time, next time is too much. No, no, he shouldn't even do it. It's over. It's gone. Like he said, he's back to running his company. It's gone. But the most of the most of the most. But the most of the most of the most of the most. But the moment would have been, that's a 10-10 if you catch him in the studio. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. But I give him a lot of credit first time getting on national television in front of a lot of people in doing his thing.

I give him mad credit. He killed that. He killed that. He had his first time in front of national television and he went viral. Crazy moment right there is all I'm saying. Hader. No, I actually, you know, no, I give him credit because, you know, I'm thinking about it. You know, he was in front of way more people than you were on that rider stage and didn't fold at all.

He didn't need a pep talk. Like, you were just, how many people were that's a riot thing? That wasn't live broadcasting. I mean, it was live in front of thousands of people. Thousands of people, but. He was in front of a camera crew. What you're talking about? That was live on TV, though.

Yes, but he's just in front of TV. And he didn't stutter. You know what's talking about that? Listen, Stephen A. Smith. I hate you. Listen, Stephen A. Smith is the guy that goes on TV and gives it to people. he was the one stuttering and he was via FaceTime. You were a little bit more Stephen A.

Hey, I'll take it. I'll take it. Stephen A. You stuttered a little bit. You're saying I'm the leisure. All right. Not in that moment, though. In that moment, that's cool.

But if Stephen A has a stutter, the internet don't give him this backlash. They don't care. If he don't stutter, even if Stephen A, this would actually have... How could Stephen A not know it was going to happen? He's really so prepared. Nah, you forget. When you talk shit like that... No, that's, sometimes.

Do you ever walk in a room and, like, see people and be like, man, what have I said about that? All the time. That shit is. I read a... Sometimes live in the moments. Sometimes you blank out. Do you know there's an actual study that says people remember insults for 20 years but forget compliments within 30 days? Oh, yeah.

Yes. That's why that motherfucker from high school you used to call Pissy Paul. Don't ever forget that shit. You know what I'm saying? I used to get called boonkey nose in middle school. That shit stings now. thing now if I think about it. Really?

You know what I'm saying? I go on Facebook sometimes. It's looking at the people who used to call me that shit to make sure they still doing bat. You know what I'm saying? Straight up. Put them in my clothes. Frint!

This is they see your life. That's where they can see me fucking thriving. God damn it. Okay. Well, I'm going to remember this moment, Fab. What moment? The guy I look up to shitting on me the first time I went on stage. Damn, bro.

See? Damn, bro. I ain't shit on you. I enjoyed it. You just to be laughing? Oh, yeah, I still are you laughing. I laughed at the part before. He didn't react at all until you said, man, I'm blanking right now.

And then he took the phone out of my head. I'm blanking right now. But you're recovered. You recovered, though. Recovered. Now, if you wanted to see me in hysterics, don't worry. Yo, if he didn't recover and all of the comedians on the stage walked off and left him there by himself.

That would think. Willie Walker's suit. Oh, by God. Oh, that would have been hilarious. Now, that would have been some comments. He just wants to see the world burn, bro. He don't want to make funny. He's the Joker.

He really is the Joker. That would have happened to Saudis would have been like, we're the one supposed to be ahead and people. We just want this guy gets fucking. This guy killed himself. Let's pay some bills, man. Let's pay some motherfucking bills. What we got?

Church announcements, show, see, what you got? Church announcements, man. Shit, I'm going down to Austin this weekend. To do the F1 joint, so I'm excited about that. I'm going to play some paddle. I'm really going down and play paddle. What's the F1 joint? It's Formula One, the race.

I think I went to one of those. and I think I went in Abu Dhabi. Yeah, they do have F1 in Abu Dhabi. Yeah, I went there in Abu Dhabi. It's fire. If you guys get a chance to go see F1, it's fucking, it makes you feel like a kid. You hear the cars and you just turn into a child again.

It's incredible. But I'm really going down there to play paddle. The F1 guys love paddle, so we're going to organize some games and then fucking get it in. How about you, man? My church announcements, man. Thank you to everybody who came to the Mental Welfth Expo

this past weekend in Newark, New Jersey, man. Really appreciate y'all. Anybody who wants to donate, go to mental wealth alliance.org. That's how you donate. But also, man, I want to tell everybody that I have this in my hand. This is the Advanced Reader's Edition Galley for my guy, Two Chames. The voice in my head is God. It is his book that will be coming out on my book in print, Black Privilege Publishing.

It'll be on sale. March 3rd of 26. It's funny, I looked at this date, and I was like, damn, March? Why, we got the galleys already? I forgot we in October. You know what I'm saying? Bro. Like March 3rd, 2006, Two Chains.

So March 3rd, 2006, Two Chains. His book, The Voice in My Head, is God, okay? He says it's his most personal work yet. It is a fantastic read. If you love Titty Boy, if you love Two Chains, you're going to love the story of Tahit Epps. You know, that is his origin story. Every superhero got an origin story.

Shit, every villain got an origin story. And this is Two Chains' Its Origin Story. So go out there and pre-order it now. And I also want to tell y'all, I go out there and pre-order, man, one of my icons, right? I always tell you all, I got four icons when it comes to entertainment. Four inspirations. Clarence Avon, Jay-Z, P.D. Green, and Arsenio Hall.

It is a privilege and an honor to be publishing Arsenio Hall's memoir. You can go pre-order that right now. Yes, we announced that last week. It'll be out April 7th, 20206, but you can pre-order it now, wherever you buy books. It's like you can go pre-order two chains wherever you buy books.

And I mean this sincerely. Arsenio Hall has one of the best entertainment memoirs I have ever read. Because Arsenio is such an amazing storyteller. And there is nothing like that era of Hollywood in the 80s and 90s. Because you got to think, it was just all of these people

who were just breaking through. And especially him being black and in late night, he was the only one. And he was the only one that was providing opportunities for the people who ended up being the coolest things in the culture

and controlling the cool what America wasn't on it yet. Somebody like Snoop Dog can come out and sell 800,000 records in a week, come back and sell another 800,000 records and still not be embraced by mainstream America quite yet. But he's on Arsenio.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. This guy, you know, who's governor of Arkansas, who ends up being one of the most transformational presidents ever knows, oh, I need to go there. That's where the cool is. Tapping into an audience that everybody hadn't quite tapped into yet. Ooh. Okay.

Ooh. I'm just what I'm telling you. What an idea. What an idea. But he did it. And it worked, you know what I'm saying? I mean, just Arsenio is the, he's a idea. So you're saying that I'm the Arsenio Hall of my generation?

No. Oh, could you? No. Hey. I think that, um, I don't know. That's a good question. Arsenio did say I was the him of this generation. Damn, bro.

But there's a racial component. But he said that publicly. I know. But he said it publicly. But if you could see beyond color. But no, there is something to that, though. There is something to the podcast. Yes, of course.

Being, you know, these platforms that are platforming people who the mainstream hasn't quite embraced yet. But they always end up being the next thing. Yeah. And that's what Arsenio did. Arsenio did that, you know, probably better than everybody at that time. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

So I just, Asseigneo is one of them people that, you know, you know, you always say don't meet your idols. But you met him. Yes. Yeah. All my idols have been super cool. I never got to meet Peter Green because he's dead. God bless it. Yeah.

It is nice when you meet someone you admire and they live up to the expectations. Man's able to. Top-tier human being. Oh, top-tier human being. Arsenia Hall, top-tier human being. So to be in a position to where I can publish one of my inspirations, memoirs, amen.

Fire. Come on, man. Come on, man. What else we got, Alex? Kylie Jenner's first song. Do we care about that? Kylie Jenner's first song? Oh, we got to listen.

What do you mean Kylie Jenner's first song? We got to listen. Nah, that ain't it, y'all. Listen, man, you know what just proves to me? All of y'all motherfuckers out there that think, you know, if you just got some money and money can get you a hit or money can allow you to market something like that, no. You got to have this thing called talent.

Yeah. That shit was... It sounds like Kylie got in the studio and looked at the mic and was like, man, I'm blanking on everything right now. Fuck you. Like, like, who the fuck came in the booth and put their head on her back and rubbed her back and was like, he complimented her on her outfit. He got this. That was horrible.

That shit. You did great, Al. You did better than Kylie. You did great. I'm going to slip my wrist up to this. You did better than Kylie. You did better than Kylie, bro. You did.

You did better than Kylie, bro. That shit was, like, why? I think you just get bored, right? If you got a billion in a bank, you might as well make a song, right? Like, shit, we made one during COVID. Yo, your baby daddy is Travis Scott. Yeah, you need a... You can't come up with nothing better than that?

Yeah, you need a holler at him. You need a holler at him. Your nephew's and niece's father is Kanye West. Yeah. I know he's on the house a little bit from the family right now, but... But you should use a little... Yeah. Yeah.

What was that? And then it's called Fourth Strike? She had three-happed bats? They gave her three-at-bats before that shit right there? Nah, bro. What else we got, Alex? Come on, man. Jesus Christ.

Oh, yes. Oh, play hell here I come. Now, this is, this was something else, man. And by the way, I didn't heard Trump say this a few times. I think he's sincere about this. You had talked a couple weeks ago, you were doing an interview, and you talked about how you hope to end the war in Ukraine because it might help you get into heaven.

How does this help? Does this help? I mean, you know, I'm being a little cute. I don't think there's anything going to get me in heaven. Okay, I'm really doing. I think I'm not maybe heaven-bound. I'm maybe in heaven right now as we fly in Air Force one. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to make heaven.

But I'm... He said this. a few times, bro. Wow. And Trump don't repeat the same jokes, really, unless he's talking about somebody. He said this a few times. Yeah.

This is kind of crazy. Well, why? Why? Because people voted for him because of his Christian values. Nobody voted for him for his Christian values. Well, that's what they act like.

Come on, bro. A lot of Christians say they vote of him because there's Christian values, that's a reach. That's a reach. Hey, that's what they say. Remember when they asked him what his favorite part of the Bible was,

he's like, man, the whole day. The whole thing. That's a great answer. That's fire. That's a great answer. That's fire. I'll say this, though, it is amazing to me that he don't believe in climate change, but he believes in heaven or hell.

Just say it's a hoax like everything else. Why would Donald Trump believe in heaven or hell? I mean, if he does believe in it, he just has to, you know, commit his life to Jesus, and then he goes, no matter what. Jesus died for your sins. That's the crazy part. He's like, I'm so far gone that I can't. Jesus is like, I don't know, man.

I don't know. All you got to do is just... Damn. I also think he's busting balls. I don't know, bro. He said that a few times already. Yeah, but he's at that age where, like, he's saying stuff that you kind of got to believe because there ain't no filter there. Man, I think he's fucking around.

It's just like, imagine you with your boys. And you're talking about getting to heaven. You're like, man. I wouldn't even play like that. What would you say? I know I'm going to heaven if there is one. No, you're not after today. Why?

What the fuck did I do? I fuck you in something? I mean? Not if Alex's nothing game. Say I bombed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. Say I bombed. Say I bombed.

Listen, listen, listen, listen. I don't know, bro. I wouldn't even play like that. Especially after we watched that video or that lady talking about all the celebrities she saw in hell. You don't remember that? Yeah. Like, why even play like that, though?

Wait, what lady said the celebrities in hell? Oh, you... Oh, Chilchel wasn't here. He wasn't here when we played that video. What is this? That shit is terrifying. I don't know how I'm going to find it. No, we don't got to play that shit.

That shit. I don't even want to know. No, that shit is terrifying. I don't even want to know. There's this lady who said she died and she had a vision. What happened are you going to? I don't know. Yeah.

Is it, you think there's like a non-denominational? Yeah, that shit, though, better. Like, once I would think that after you leave this earthly realm, none of that matters. These just spirits at that point. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And the funny thing is you might end up in there with, deer as you hit and just kept driving.

You know what I'm saying? Fucking spiders you done killed. Like, for real? Like, you don't know. Everything makes it to heaven. Maybe? We don't know. That's a good question.

Are there no dogs in heaven? What makes you? They say all dogs go to heaven. Who said that? Whoever the fuck made up that quote? But that was a book or a movie. That wasn't like in the Bible. I know one thing.

There's no quote that say all humans go to heaven. That there are quotes that say that. What? Those have been saved go to heaven, but not the Bible. Those out of the same. I'm not going to say it's nonsense. I'm just saying everybody can't make it to heaven. You notice when people die,

the pastages automatically, you know, get you into heaven. Everybody ain't in heaven. In Jehovah Witness religion, they say only 144,000. Yeah, that's a crazy low number. But think about how pure you would have to be. But why's so specific?

That's why, when I hear that, I'm like, okay, somebody knows something. Yeah, yeah. That's a specific. Only 144,000 people. That makes sense, though. Like when you think about how hard it is to get in, if you don't let Jesus die for your sins.

If you let Jesus die for your sins, then you're in there. Shouldn't it be the most exclusive club on the planet? No. God sacrifices one and only son. So it doesn't have to be exclusive. No. No. He's giving you a great deal and you're just not accepting it.

Well, I don't think, wait a thing. This is what I would have liked to have seed. Jesus sacrifices life. Anybody sacrificed their life, right? Anybody. I'm sorry, if we were in this room right now, And one of us said, hey, man, I'm sacrificing my life for you to do this. And we all do this in some way, right?

Yeah. You dedicate things to them. You dedicate your life to them or your career. You are motivated to do something great by this person's death. Yeah. So Jesus dies for our sins. So we just say, fuck it. We're going to send more?

And just keep asking for forgiveness over and over and over and over. No, because. Do we even try to do the right thing? Well, I think once you accept Jesus is. your Lord and Savior, you would try to live a life that he would appreciate. Try or do? Try. Because it's not hard to do.

Well, no, it is hard to do because you're born a sinner. Because that's who? It's God. Somebody's sins you really got to go out your way to commit, bro. That's true. You know what I'm saying? That's true. Like, some of these sins, you really got to go out of your way to commit, bro.

Yeah. Like having sex with animals. You understand what I'm saying? Murdering somebody. Yeah. You know? Like, come on. Murdering someone feels easier than having sex.

sex with an animal. Self-defense murder, I understand. That's not murder. That's not murder. That's not-defense. But going out to just do it, serial killer shit, God damn. No, that's crazy. Stealing from people.

God damn. What are the Ten Commandments? Look them up. I don't even know him by heart. Yeah, we got to memorize. Let's see how hard these things. Because some of this shit is very hard to do, bro. You got to go out your way to commit some of these sins, bro.

Yeah. Okay. Let's see. Let's put them up. All right. Pull them up. Ten Commandments, go. The Ten Commandments.

All right, here we go Here we go I am the Lord thy God Thou shall not have Strange gods before me That's not hard That's not difficult As easy

Because you know Because it's not Like I don't even know what a strange God means Meaning like you don't have multiple gods And like when people that used to worship cows Exactly Now shall not Or all other religions

Yeah Okay so we start worshiping cows Turn them to steak in hamburger What they belong Facts Thou shall not take the name of the Lord that God in vain. Now, people try to use that for me, right?

But always... Why are you taking it in vain, though? Because he calls himself God. But that's... I think that's blasphemy. I don't think that that's taking it in vain. But I say the God, T.H. I never say, I'm the God.

Okay? Genesis chapter 126 says God created man in his image according to his likeness. You're going to try to lawyer God right now? I'm saying, I can't take my father's name. What would you be? What do you mean? My father is God.

God. Genesis 1.26 says God created man in his image according to his likeness. So when I look in the mirror, do I not see God? When you look in the mirror, do you not see God? When you look in the mirror, do you, well, you're a devil. Oh, what? What I'm just saying, you don't see it? No. Yeah, I don't know. All right, remember to keep holy the Lord's death. Hold on, let's talk about those first things. How hard, how difficult is it to go out of your way for those first two, right? You already fucked up. Remember to keep holy the Lord's day.

Isn't every day the Lord's day? You could have called yourself Charlemagne the Leonard. Yep. Charlemagne the Larry. Charlemagne the McKelvey. But then I wouldn't be coming in God's name. I want people to see me and see the God. I want them to see God and me.

I want to do my best. That's God's job. I want God to show himself through me to other people. Look what I can do with this motherfucker. Yeah, and that's why you got all these little kids harassing people on the street. They're trying to be you. Yep. How you mean?

They're looking at you and they're doing breakfast club interviews to people on the street. Well, well, guess what? God isn't done with me yet. This is a journey. It is a process. Okay. That light is just getting brighter and brighter. God is not done with me yet.

All right. Ready? Remember to keep holy the Lord's day. Yes. That can't just be Sunday, bro. Well, it's Saturday, but yeah. Huh? The Sabbath.

Saturday is the Sabbath. Oh, that's why the Jews take off on Saturday. Yeah. So when is Sunday? You know, the New Testament switched it. The Christians got to switch it up a little bit. They're like, we're going to do this on Sunday. We don't even know the day.

Now, if he gave us the day, then we could be like, all right. He did. On the seventh day, he rested. You got to keep that. That's Sunday, though. No, Saturday. Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Friday. Saturday.

The week starts Sunday to them, yeah. So we turned Saturday into a goddamn party day. You know, listen, this is, you know, you just, you know where Christianity comes from. Hey, look, you just said, God, damn. You just took the large name. You just took a large name and vain. So this ain't our fault, though. This is actually a technicality.

Oh, I mean, Middle Eastern people tend to run late, so I don't think it's weird this on a Sunday. It's a little bit there. All right. So honor thy father and mother. You honor thy mother. I honor thy father and mother. Yeah. You should go to hell if you disrespect your parents.

But I get it, though, because some parents are pieces of shit, and some parents have traumatized their kids. But you got to honor them. Not if you, what if your daddy diddled you? Honor that, definitely. No. You don't honor it. According to God. According to God.

No, no, no, no, no. There's no. There's no but. Okay. Thou shall not kill. That's easy. You got that. You're not, you're not, but, but kill what?

Yeah. Kill what? Kill what? Kill this beat like Kylie did. You know what I'm saying? If you kill a beat like Kylie did. We've killed mosquitoes. We've killed spiders.

Thanks. You've hit roll kill. Thank you. You know what I'm saying? Kill some pussy. Get, dit, dick, dick, get. Turn me to Stephen A. Smith right there. I'm just saying.

I think it's thou shalt not murder, but thou shalt not commit adultery. We don't even want to go into that one, Charlemagne. But I forgot. I prayed for God to have me repent for my sins. And I changed. Yeah. That's the key. That's what I'm saying about Jesus.

So if Jesus, talk that shit, talk that shit. So if Jesus died in your things, you're supposed to do your best, but do actually do right. Thank you. You're supposed to do your best, bro. No, no, you got to do right, bro. He knows you're going to fail. You know what right is. No, you're not.

I ain't failed. I ain't failed. I'm not failing. Not when it comes to the adultery thing. Thou shall not steal. Now what if you're a baseball player? And that is literally part of the goddamn game. Ah.

Well, it's part of the game. You're allowed to do it. But they just use the word steal. Okay. but I hear what you're saying. Still what? All right. Thou shall not.

But there's no reason to steal when you have the means. Because what if there's a hurricane and you don't got no money and you poor and you gotta go loot to get some food for your kids? Come on now.

Though it doesn't say thou shalt now loot. That is very true. That is true. Some people call loot and stealing. But you're right though. They're fucking up. Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

Now, I don't even know what that means. I think it's lie on your neighbor. Hmm. What fun would plot? If you couldn't lie on your neighbor? Because thy neighbor means other people. If you couldn't lie on other people, what fun would podcasting in YouTube?

You was lying on that. What rabbit holes would we have to go down? You know what I'm saying? This is literally 60, 70, 80% of the whole media landscape right now. Lie on people. But they're not saying how to have a successful podcast. They're saying how to get into heaven. Right.

Now shall not covet thy neighbor's wife. Yo, come on. That's a good one. Don't do that. Don't be disrespectful. Don't be disrespectful. Don't be disrespectful. Covet means the lust after. Don't be disrespectful.

And now shall not covet thy neighbor's goods. You can't look at your neighbor's house in which you had that shit. But that's inspiration, right? Well, well, you're like, damn, that's dope. Well, that's okay. I think you can be inspired by. Yeah. I'm inspired.

You can't hate them because of it. I'm not necessarily inspired by neighbor's goods, right? Like, if I look at somebody and they, got an amazing, amazing something. Like, let's just say it's a house. I got a nice house. But if this was an amazing house, I'm looking at it and I'm not saying like, damn,

I want what that person's got. I'm just like, yo, I just want a nice house one day. Yeah, but I don't think that's coveting. You can look at your neighbor's wife and be like, wow, that's a beautiful woman. I would love a beautiful wife one day. I would just want a wife because I like the family dynamic. Exactly.

You don't want to like take that from that person. No, no, no, no. That's fucked up. So I think these are pretty good these demands. It's proving my point. You gotta go out of your way to really break some of these shit. This is the choice.

You be lying on thy neighbor. So that's one. I'm trying to do better, Alex. He's trying to do better, though. We're all trying to do better. We're all trying to do better. He's trying to do better. You can start now.

How did I do? What? On what? On what? My joke, you start now. Don't lie. I mean, what am I comparing it to? A person's first time going on stage to do stand-up.

Hey. Nah. See? There's only one joke, though. Going a half. You're the comedian. What do you think? Imagine you went to hell.

Be honest, be honest. What do you think? What do I think of his stand-up? Yeah. I think he did a great job. No bullshit. Really? I think you're very nervous

when you're up there your first time. You miss the funniest part. No, I did. It's not, no, it's not in the video. Shifty cut out of the video. My favorite part. Why didn't even put that in? This shit is so funny.

But in all honest, his first time he's nervous, granted, the audience, like you said, knows that he's nervous, so they're rooting for him because they're all imagining what it would be like if they were up there for the first time. And then the joke was clever. The joke was 100% clever. Like, we cannot deny the fact that the joke was clever. Ask Alex Media. Oh, you wrote it. Robbie helped me with. Robbie Sullivan. Okay, okay, okay.

Oh, well, that's Robbie Sullivan. That's good. I thought you had that shit. I was like, okay, that's far. Okay. Shout to Robbie. But still, it's a very clever. It's a clever joke. And I think they're basically like, okay, here's this guy that's nervous. he actually delivered this thing and the thing is clever give him a round of applause he's not going up there going

yo I'm the best comedian here's my joke type of thing that being said okay that being said I think that we kind of feel for people in those situations but the funniest you don't

you want chaos you want chaos I need the blinking to keep going okay so like you got you had me at I'm blinking on everything oh my God let me put my phone down Who is this fantastic new comedian that's going to see?

Look at this. Look at this. This is my favorite part. At the end, we finish the show. Thank you guys so much. And Al goes, it's not the video. I wish it was in the video. He goes, that's my time.

You know when that's my time hits after you bomb. After a person bombs and that red light comes on and they got to try to just kill time. Or their time isn't even up. Yeah. But they know. Yeah. That's my time. Yeah.

The human red light is better than the red light. When the crowd tells you this test your fucking time. So you're going to do this more? You think you're going to do it more? I might. Yeah. I'm going to pull up. It's fun.

Let me know what you do. Nah, don't you do. Don't you do it. I'm going to get you up there. I'll get you up there. For what? Just a joke, one joke. Everybody should try it.

You should try it. I did it one time. You know what my joke was? No. I walked out on stage and I said, man, I looked at that crowd. I said, man, I looked at the stool, looked at the back at the crowd. I said, man, let me sit my ass down so y'all don't ever say Charlie he was up here trying to do stand-up.

Oh, digging your crazy. Yeah. Whoa. All right. Stand-up's not for everybody. I barely. I'd that go over. I'd like over.

Saudi next year We got to get them out Saudi next year Charlotte made of God His headlining Come on Let's pay some bills, man Okay

Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's jokes What do we got? We got more We do this Do some asking today Yeah What's today?

Today's the 17th This week Friday's the 17th Right Yeah Friday's the 17th Okay listen In Birmingham, Alabama, I will be in Birmingham on the 17th at the Alabama Theater

with former Vice President Kamala Harris having a conversation about her book 107 days. Man, I wanted to tell you all that. Yes, it's actually two, it's two, I'm about to say shows. I guess they are shows, I don't know. It's two of it. It's five o'clock and eight o'clock. So a conversation with Kamala Harris at the Alabama Theater in Birmingham, Alabama. this Friday.

So I'll see y'all there. Let's do some asking idiots, mate. Is there any of these topics you want to hit before we go to this? Let's see what we got, Mike. What we got to go to a child fare? Let's do some... What the hell is the child fare?

They're selling them at fairs now? Yeah, man. God damn. Y'all used to just doing the... I'm behind... Out of the back of pizza shops. What the fuck happened? Pizza shop.

Uh... What the fuck? They doing whole fairs now? That shit is crazy, though. CRXKid 2003 says, what was the hardest lessons you had to learn in your lifetime? What's the hardest lesson you had to learn in your lifetime, Schultz? I don't know, that's a great question.

The hardest lesson I had to learn. Hmm. I don't know. I want to, like, think on that. The hardest lesson. I don't know. I don't know. What's the hardest lesson for you?

I don't know if it's the hardest, but the lesson that I've definitely learned is don't expect you from other people. Ooh, that's great. And I think I'm also still learning a part of that lesson is don't expect you from other people, but also karma, you know, energy, whatever you want to call it, whatever you on, don't mean that's what everybody else going to be on. And that don't mean that's what you're going to get back. Yeah. In fact, I think I've learned the opposite, meaning that it is really true that we all be having crosses to bear, especially based on what it is you choose to do with your life.

If you choose to, like, you know, really go down a path that a lot of people haven't gone down, especially, you know, like, where you might be from or, you know, you know, shit like that, like, yes, there's going to be a lot of people. of obstacles, hurdles, in tough shit you got to deal with in exchange for that success. And I'll never forget, you know, actually, it was actually a lesson that, no matter who the lesson was from, but it was a lesson that a very prominent person said to me one time, and they said to me that if you had all of your, if you had, if somebody said to you right now, you're going to have all the success you have and all the success you're going to have, but all you got to deal with is critics, people lying on you, you would take that deal nine times out of ten.

I think I would take a ten out of ten. 100%. You know what I'm saying? Because that's what comes with it, especially in this game of entertainment. That's a great... So since I was a kid, this is what I wanted to do in some way, shape, or form. I'm doing it at a very high level. The highest.

So whatever comes with that, I'm cool. Yeah, I think, yeah, it's like you can't have your cake and eat it too or whatever that saying is. Like, when you reach a certain level of success, there's obviously going to be criticism. And it's one of those things like when you see narratives about you that are completely false, it's frustrating because you're like, man, people are so gullible. They fall for these things all the time. But I'm sure we also fall for narratives about other people all the time. Absolutely.

It's kind of the nature of the TikTok creator economy we live in, which is like, say something salacious and maybe half true, you get way more views than if you say something nuanced and thoughtful. And yeah, I guess there's an interesting lesson to that. And yeah, it's hilarious, right? Like, it's funny to me because I think it was maybe the next week after the damn dash. I don't remember what it was. It was something going on, but then like on the internet they have in one conversation.

But then that whole weekend I'm on the front page of the USA Today. It's like Charlemagne the Kingmaker. But dude, there's a... Whatever that mean. There's a thousand different realities now, man. Yes. It's like... And we spend more time on our phones than we do in real life.

Yes. Like, if you literally look at how much time you spend on your phone every day, you probably spent... I don't know about you, but most people, they might spend six hours on their phone, seven hours on their fucking phone, right? That's a lot. So you're spending more time on your phone

than you are interacting with the real world, right? So the real world is actually fake. Yeah. The fake reality that you see on your phone that's curated by these algorithms that tap into your... fears, that becomes your reality. So I think people become really radicalized because they feel very comfortable in these super crazy opinions that they see flooding their feet. You're absolutely

right. You know, so it's like, yeah, we live in a very weird time. That's where I think, like, you can really only do the thing that makes you feel good. There is a freedom to this, I will say. The freedom I've realized is like, I see people trying to like ride the waves of criticism and that kind of stuff, but like the freedom, I think, is people are going to be upset no matter what. You always say this. You're like, three people are going to say you're good. Three people are going to say you shitty. Yeah, it's a rule of ten.

Yeah. But it's like, once you go through it enough, I think you realize what it's just like, just do the thing that makes you feel good and that you believe in because everything else outside of that doesn't matter. By the way, that's when I know a person is going to be great. See, when you hear and you're doing this, everybody cheering for you to you to understand. You're an underdog. They love you.

They love to see you when. They're like, oh, my God, that's our God, I got it. But then when you get there and you're there, there, and they're like, wait a minute now. I knew he was on the come up, but I didn't know he was going to get there. You know what I'm saying? That's when all the bullshit starts. That's when all the hate starts. That's not like you used to be.

By the way, you shouldn't be like you used to be. He's supposed to grow. You're supposed to evolve. That's when all of the hate and all of that shit really, really, really comes. And then if you can withstand that. Invincible. On the other side of that. is where the real greatness lies and the real success lies.

Because God is like, I and I gave you what you wanted. You got there. And there's a lot more for you to get. And there's a lot more places for you to go. But if you can't handle this, eh. That's why it's like just with anything, I really feel like the way through is talking about it. Like the easiest way that this Riyadh shit

would have been for us to never discuss a single thing afterwards, not me, not put out a clip from the whole thing. Like, the easiest way is just go through and then don't look the other way. But, like, that's scared shit. Yes. It's like I wanted to go before him that. I felt really good about performing there. Do it scared.

You can't do a scare. Wait, what are you saying? Do it scared. What does that mean, do it that? Meaning, like, it's almost like a fearlessness, right? And I thought about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. It's a fearlessness.

Go be, do it, do it. You got to go do it. And you also just got, like, if you believe in something, it doesn't matter what the people say. Eventually, they're going to realize you do whatever the fuck you hear. you want to do. And if they want to get on board with that shit, they can. And if they don't want to get on board with it, they cannot get on board. But they're not going to dictate what you do. And whoever you lose in the process that you're supposed to. You're supposed to. And ass is going

to come back once you say something they like. And this is the cyclical nature of. Are they just going dick ride the bigger you get. They either going to do two things. They're either going to do two things. No, three things. They're either going to celebrate. Because some people really do celebrate. Yeah. Right. Are they going to hate? Yeah. Because some people just, that's what they're there for. they're the hate, are they going to dick ride? And the dick riding comes from watching everybody celebrate you so they don't want to

look like they're not part of the party. You know what I'm saying? But the second something goes wrong, they're the first. Oh, they'll jump with the haters. That's why the dickriders just jump from that's a dig. But those motherfuckers are never your real fans in the first place. They're the plastic bags in the wind. They're letting like a TikTok video dictate their feelings. They dick ride.

What dick is warm? You can hop on it. You hop on it. Slued to Jay Stahl, too. I want to salute J. Stahl, because this was a It was a great piece he wrote in USA Today about me. And I didn't know I was going to be on the cover. I thought it was just an interview. But it ended up being on the cover of USA Today. So thank you, Jay Stahl.

Out of 10 occurrences, how many times do you tell your wife that other women hit on you? Bro, I'm married. Women don't hit on me. That shit's over. That shit is over. And when women were hitting on me, I wasn't telling my wife. And that was the problem. That was a problem.

Because I was hitting back. That was bad. That was bad. Don't even say that out loud. I was breaking one of the ten commandments. You can't break them. And then I decided that I wanted to be a better person and I ask God for forgiveness.

And so I do better now. There you go. Meaning I don't do it at all. There you go. Okay? Faithful black man over here. One day at a time. Now, there are times when, you know,

because you know, you get to the point, man, when you be so married and washed that, you know, you'd be at your daughter's cheerleading competition and you'd be like, you know such and such mom. She over there flirting with me. Thank God you talking about the parents, bro. I was like this guy talking about the cheerleading competition.

What the fuck, you go to one child fan? That's what your mind is. What the fuck is wrong with you? What is your problem? Why would you think that? Well, yeah, you were saying the moms are throwing rhythm at you or what? In my mind. You know what I mean?

That's just, you have a, when you have a, you have a conversation with a married man for over 30 years. 30 seconds. Yeah. What do you really want? Exactly. That man don't know no better. That man's just like, a simple being nice to a married man, a rub on the back.

Oh, no. Make you feel like you still got it. Why is she rubbing on your back, bro? That's crazy. Oh, fuck it. That same reason you rubbed on Alex back to give him some encouragement. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

What's one character trait you have that you wouldn't want your kids to have? Oof. One. Yeah, exactly. yeah oh man what's one character trait that i have i wouldn't want my kids to have um uh oh like uh like the old the tricky thing is that like sometimes these character traits they can help you be successful so i wouldn't want them to inhibit their success but at the same time like you know like you know thinking you're right and wanting to convince somebody that they're

wrong, I don't think leads to the best communication sometimes. But we're podcasters. But we podcast. That's what we do. So if the kids want food every night. You got to get a little contention, little argument, little conflict, you know what I'm saying? It's what it is. You know?

And I'm going to be honest with you, my brain really works like that. It does. I don't know why it does. I'm trying to help you. It is not because I'm not a contrarian. I just really am objective and I like to see things from all sides. And I'm just like, well, have you tried to look at it like this? You know what I mean?

We don't even say it that kindly. We don't say, have you tried? No. We'll be like, man, that was stupid what you said. Let me help you with your thoughts. I don't think people realize, man, when that spirit moves you, bro, like, it's a spirit. I watch, like, I watch you on stage shows. I watch you in your podcast.

It's a spirit. Like, we get downloads, and we got to let that shit out. I'll let it out. And this ain't just when the mics are on. I can't, I can't hold. Because I feel like if I'm not shooting, I got to shoot. Yeah. In the world, in the world, we're shooting.

That's how I love talking to people. I love conversations. It's breathing. Talk. Let's live. And I like listening to a person even before I even talk to them like, ooh, right? Because I want to see if that person is going to spark something in me. You want to react.

That's just a different perspective. Yeah. That's what I like. I like people that. spark a different perspective in me like, oh, all right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And a lot of times when I'm looking at the social media waves of things, I don't agree

with majority of them shit. Yeah. Majority of the shit that motherfuckers be on on social media, I promise you I'm probably going the opposite way. Yeah. Just because I'm like, you're all bugging. You know why, though? I'm going to tell you why.

I'm just thought about it. No, I didn't just think about it. But I just thought about it. I don't think in extremes. Social media thinks in extremes. Yes. So your natural reaction is to be like, it ain't that crazy. It's not that.

It's nuance to it. And then sometimes I'll be like, well, why y'all reacting like that to this? Yeah. But not to that. Yeah. Like, it don't make no sense to me. Like, I don't know. No, no, no.

You're actually making a great point. It's like extremes is the only thing that gets reactions online. So naturally we see these extremes on all sides. And we're just like, it really ain't that big. a deal and then when we react like that the extreme people go man y'all just fence riding or you just sitting in the middle or whatever it's like yeah yeah that's what normal people do normal people are not extreme walking down the street these little freaks that have this one myopic view of the world there are normal people can look at both sides of something big i could see where they are there

i can see where they are there that's normal shit that's right so i think that is one trait people pleasing um even though i've oh yeah i got a hand i got a handle on that now and like no is a no is a complete sentence nowadays but like there's a like you shouldn't be people pleasing to the to the detriment of yourself but i think that there is an aspect of that like that is beautiful which is like you care how people feel in a moment yeah so it's like you don't want i know people who are devoid of it they're like i don't care if that person feels good at all and those people kind of suck they just seem selfish they're like only care about how they feel in a moment?

Yeah. So having some empathy for how someone feels in a moment, I think, is good. Like, imagine being somebody who, like, saw a person go on stage for the first time and, like, they were just watching it and, like, relishing in the failure. Like, imagine that.

But what if I am a person who likes watching the person fail on stage? What about me, Shokes? You can't tell me to put myself first, okay? Youself second. Have me be concerned about what this person is going through when what I actually love and enjoy is happening. I think you figured it out.

You don't people please anymore. It can't people please no more, man. And also, too, the people please that I'm talking about is just like, you know, constantly like being there for everybody. But here's the thing. I don't do that for any other reason other than I enjoy it. And like, you know, my wife will get on me sometime or like people that's close to me, like Dolly will get on me sometime and they'll be like, you know, that's why you,

Duval, definitely, you know, you're like, that's why that such, such fucked you over. It's like, I don't care if they fucked me. Well, yeah, because you did the right thing for you. I did it because I wanted to do it. Yeah, they're a bad person. It doesn't mean that you should, it doesn't mean you should treat everybody as if they're going to be bad. That's a way, that's a horrible way to go.

Yeah. I did it. I do things for people because I genuinely want to do them. Yeah. But no other reason. If I got the means and I got the resources and, you know, the spirit moves me, I'm going to do it. If you fucked that up, that's on you. That ain't going to stop me from being me.

Yeah. I guess that's kind of how Jesus works. Now he's on board. Now he's on board. We got there. It took us two hours, but we got there. Jesus works. Yeah, we're talking.

Let's do one more. Why are all the leaders afraid of Trump? That's a good one. When you mean leaders, like, of other countries? Other countries, industries. I got a theory about this. Go. All right, me too, go.

And my theory came just from reading this question. Because I do be sitting back wondering the same thing. Like, why are the checks and balances not for him? Why is he able to do the things that he does? I think that he is a master troll behind the scenes. Let me tell you what I mean by that. We're looking at the chaos we see. What about the chaos we don't see?

Meaning, what if, like, terribly embarrassing things are happening to people publicly, and we don't know he's the one behind it? Oh, you're giving a lot of credit right now. I'm just saying, as a person who may or may not. Enjoy the troll. Do the same type of shit, right? I don't do that type of stuff. Of course not. But, okay, when you see somebody going through it, going through the chaos that they're going through for whatever reason they're going through it.

Yeah. And that person knows it was him. The whole time. It was him. I don't need nobody else to know. You know. You'll get in line. Meaning, meaning, meaning if you're one of these world leaders who's seen it happen to somebody else.

Yeah. Not saying he's doing it to everybody. Yeah. But he's made enough examples. Yeah. That they're like, yo, that motherfucker. Possible. I think it's possible.

I think that like love him or hate him, he doesn't subscribe to like the orthodoxy, the typical politician subscribed to. So it's like the reason like Biden and Kamala couldn't get any deal done over there is because they were probably going through the typical diplomatic process that, you know, presidents go through. And I think Trump is probably like. why we do that?

I'm going to just call this guy and tell him that he's not going to get any more bombs unless he supports this country. And then I'm going to ask this country what they want. And I'm going to, all right, that works. Give it to him. So I think he's just cutting out all this shit. And they believe that he'll do it. And when you act that erratically on a world stage, people have no choice but to react to

it because they're like, I haven't seen anyone behave like this. And the cost of me not taking this seriously could be very high. And I think in a lot of places in the world, especially the places where they're dictators and autocrats. Yeah. I think they actually relate to it better. Yeah. Are. Yeah.

You know what I mean? So they're just like, what the fuck is going on? Why is he so transactional? He's just asking me what I want and then he'll give it. Like, doesn't he have to ask Congress? Doesn't he have to do all these other things? You know, it's so funny about what you're saying. If you're a dictator or authoritarian, you know what that looks like.

Yes. Like, I actually think he does better negotiating outside of America than in. because he's talking to other people that have full control and power. So he's just like, what do y'all want? Oh, you want this? Okay, I'll give you that. And then you give me this. In America, he got to ask Congress to do this.

He got to ask the Democrats to do this. The Republicans do this. These people are fighting here, which is a great system. It is the best system. We shouldn't change that system. Yeah. But it doesn't work. Oh, that system changed, buddy.

Sure, sure. Yeah, that's changed. But my point is, it doesn't work for how he operates most normally. Whereas when he's operating overseas and he's talking to these other dictatorships, he can just go, yeah, I'll give you that. Or I'm taking this away. Or I'm going to blow them up. I'm just going to do all these things.

And they have to react to it. It doesn't seem like a lot of the world leaders are afraid of him, though. I don't see no fear from China. I don't see no fear from Russia, which I think frustrates him. That's why he's so upset now, putting the tariffs on China again, you know, telling Putin, I'm not happy with you again. Listen, they might not. Circling the wagon with the nuclear submarines around Russia and all.

He's trying to strike some fear in them, but it don't seem like it's working. They might not. But the leaders here in America, oh, he got him shook. Oh, every industry. Like Barack Obama said this week, Barack Obama was like, just, won't you just stand up, say no. Yeah. Speaking about, I think he was speaking about, like, the universities and the television networks. Yeah.

But for whatever reason, he got them completely shook. But that's because he threatens him and then backs it up. Like you saw he had Elon donated, what, 200 million or whatever the case is? And then he shut it down. He just kicked Elon out. So if he could do that to the richest guy in the world who is probably responsible for you being in office, he's going to do that to everybody. Yeah, but he's back with Elon, though. He's back with Elon telling Elon he missed him and stuff like that.

Because Elon's back in line. Because Elon got in line. It's not the other way around. Explain Disney then. What about, what happened with Disney? Your FCC chair comes out, gives this stern warning about Kimmel. They put Kimmel on ice. Disney loses $6 billion in market share within a week.

They lose like a million plus subscribers. Somebody said, yo, no, no, no, no, no. Stop the motherfucking bleeding right now. I don't care what he talking about. Put him back on the air. Put him back on the air. He ain't even really say nothing after that. We ain't here about no.

Who is he? Who is he here? Trump. Trump ain't say nothing. He said like maybe one thing after just left it alone. But that's Disney reaction. to the market, rejecting them. He respects the market.

He respects business and so he, I'm pretty sure Kimmel will be gone probably in a year. Because he's like, yo, we can't do it right now, but eventually we got it done. I feel like that. I feel like you got that for me. I did say that. You did say that? Yeah. I said something right.

I said, remember we were talking about it? You showed me. Remember we were talking about it on the pod? And I was just saying how like, I think ultimately he's going, Trump is going to win and get his way. Oh, maybe. But, but. But I don't know. Yeah, you're right. I know. I'm just talking, man.

It's a pardon, bro. Like, dowsha, I'm not coveted die neighbor's thoughts. Yeah, as always, if you listen to this podcast, we think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right, too. It's the brilliant idiotic podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace.