The Brilliant Idiots - Blockbusters Closed

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

In this episode of Brilliant Idiots, Charlamagne Tha God and Andrew Schulz, dive into everything from holiday vibes and Christmas traditions to the wild world of celebrity culture. They discuss Jason Derulo’s controversial comments about working with women, what happens when stereotypes go unchecked, and how power shows up in relationships and society. From there, we break down the Diddy documentary and the darker side of the entertainment industry, fame, accountability, silence, and the way power can twist things behind the scenes. We also get into how the industry is shifting with the rise of podcasting, how live events are changing, and why it’s so important to recognize complicity when it comes to abuse and influence. ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: ⁠https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots⁠ Jess Hilarious - Til Death Do We Parent - Pre Order 2Chainz - The Voice in my head is God - ⁠Pre Order⁠ The Black Family Who Built America - Cheryl McKissack Daniel -⁠Order Link⁠ Uncommon Favor - Dawn Staley - ⁠Order Link⁠ Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks- By Charlamagne Tha God - ⁠Order Link⁠ Check out Andrew Schulz - ⁠www.theandrewschulz.com⁠ Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" - ⁠https://blackeffect.com⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yeah, I'm Charleney and the guy. Andrew Shulles. We're all the brilliant idiotist. Back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Hezekiah Walker. Yes, sir. How was your weekend, sir? Man, I don't even remember what days of the weekend, what's not the weekend.

It's all like blending in. He neither, bro. Yeah. Yeah, it's that time of year. I'm just trying to enjoy every moment of the holiday season. I like looking around. I like seeing the decorations. I like seeing the trees up.

You got the Christmas spirit? Yes, man. I always got the Christmas spirit. Now, you're a little bar humbug, bro. No, no, no. You are with your whole, like, hot take about a... What? You got your little hot take about it.

Christmas ain't even about Jesus or whatever. Like, he's not even a star of his own birthday. Well, that's because of the world. That's because of the society that we live in. But you also like the Christmas trees. You like the polar bears. Yeah, but I... Because I like the joy that the season brings.

But, yes, I do feel like people have taken the Christ out of Christmas in a lot of ways. Like, you talk about who headlines the holidays? You don't have nothing about Jesus. in here. I see Frosty the Snowman. You know, Frosty got front villain. You see what I'm saying? That's a great point. Forthy, the snowman, somehow the Grinch has jumped to the front of the line. And he was supposed to be... We love villains. You see what I'm saying?

Right? Love a villain. Right, right? Rudolph, the red nose reindeer. You know what I mean? Jesus is supposed to be number one. Then Santa. You know what's wild? Then everybody else. My daughter, we've been playing like Christmas music. She loves Rudolph, the red nose reindeer, right? You got to play the DMX version. that's coming that's coming but uh there is something where it's like i wonder if these record companies what if you just play albums for kids and they'll let you know what the hit single is

because the kids don't think about taste or anything they're just naturally reacting to the rhythm of this song right yeah yeah yeah yeah and they fall in love with it so she is self-selected rudolph over every other christmas song that we played we played them all we're not like trying to get her into Rudolph. She just self-selected. And I would imagine it's the same way for any pop album. I bet you if you just take a bunch of two-year-olds, you put them in a room and just play pop albums, they will let you know what the hits are. You know what's interesting? I think kids can feel intention. So I think sometimes a lot of this pop music is so manufactured and like there's no real intent except for to make money. When you hear Rudolph the red nose range,

you can hear the emotion. Somebody went in there happy. Somebody went in there happy. It's a victim story, bro. Red nose reindeer. Really? He was a bit, yeah. And if you ever saw him, you would even say it. You know how good that made me feel as a big nose little kid? My nose could be, no, my nose could be used for something.

We don't accept you. What do you mean? We don't accept you. No, he got a snodge. His snogs gets some, people think he's Jewish because of his snows. Yeah, and my last name. There's too much definition. Yeah, but here's the thing about your guys, you guys are expected to have big noses.

Right. I'm not. So it's worse for me. You turn it this way? Yeah. Nah. Damn. You almost poked your own.

It's healthy. No, no, I have a strong nose. Strong nose. I have a presidential nose. Right, right. You know what I mean? Of course. I mean, all the greatest men in history had big noses.

We know that. We can look at them and see this is 100% of facts. It's obviously a sign of intelligence, cock length. Isn't it crazy? I still don't we start talking about Jewish, one of the Jewish people in their? I mean, start talking about Jesus. One of the Jewish people in the room

stuck the conversations. I mean, he is the most famous Jew in history. Absolutely. There is no, the greatest Jewish man in history was Jesus. It's not even a question. Who's number two? Fucking.

How about Einstein? You think Einstein? I'm just throwing out names. Come on. He's the... What is he? I never thought about what I know. You think the smartest man in the world was anything but?

Have you heard a more Jewish name than Einstein? Oh, yeah. What the fuck is going? Can you learn how to be racist a little better? The fuck is his open-mindedness over here. Yeah. Well, good job, Albert Einstein. Yeah, he was a goat.

But I think most famous Jewish person in history is definitely it's Jesus. And then after that, it's probably Larry David. Larry David is up there. You think Larry David is after Jesus? Or Adam Sandler. Google it, Google it, bro. Larry David or Adam Sandler.

100% Seinfeld? Seinfeld? Not Harry. Not anymore. Larry. Not anymore? Larry got that over Seinfeld.

Because of the curb? Yeah, and also just because like of Larry. Google top 10 most famous Jewish people of all time. Top 10 most famous? I mean, Abraham, Moses, like these types of guys. Let's step out of the Bible. Yeah, let's go outside the Bible. Top 10 most influential Jews.

Who's number one? Wow. All right. Yeah, but that's Jesus is obviously the one. Hold on now. I said the top 10 most famous Jews is subjective because they did have all the Bible people. I did not know Stan Lee was Jewish. Maybe that was obvious.

Stanley's up there, bro. Barbara Streisand, Jerry Lewis, Bob Dylan, the top 10 most famous. I think if you change your name to not be Jewish, it doesn't count. It doesn't count. Ralph Lauren. You're out. You're out. You got to own it.

What do you think about that? In order be considered the top. Always felt that way. You have to own the Jewish. Because otherwise, you don't really know if people love you in spite of you being true. But you kind of had to change your last name to survive, though. What do you mean? In order to express whatever greatness you had, you didn't want to experience the prejudice,

so you get rid of the Stein. Yes, yes. Or, or, or it is advantageous in some reason. So it's not about survival. It's like, yo. Buckeberg. I mean, it is about. Zuckerberg's up there. It is kind of about survival, though.

In some situations, you would have got discriminated again. In some situations, yes, Ralph Lauren, I think he would have survived just fine. But I think that he thought it was advantageous. Oh, that's not his real name? No. His name is like Ralph Lipschitz. Lipswitz, yeah. But it's like in order for him to build a brand around WASP culture, which is like, you know,

prototypical New England whites, he needed to adopt a name that represented that. Sigmund Freud, that's a big one. Freud. Am, bro. All your mental health and you can't even pronounce the number one. Sigmund Freud. No, because when I see stuff, my mind says it the way it looks. But my body.

Jesus Christ. Telling me, yeah. Abraham, Moses. Moses had a run, yo. That's a crazy top three. You really can't just knock that. That's a top three is hard to beat. You got to give it to him.

I mean, God. You got to give it. Now, here's the question. Jesus Moses and Abraham, bro. The only other three that can do that is style she can kiss. That's a hell of a top three right there. That's a crazy trio. Jude's got a great top three, bro.

They got a great top three. That's a hell of a top. All right, top three blacks, go. Top, let's do it. Let's look it up. Top three, top ten African-Americans. No, don't put African-Americans. Just put top people.

Top blacks. Yeah, top-10 black. There you go. Yeah. You put bottom, if you put bottom blacks, Al going to pop up on that like three or four times. Come on. You don't do it, too.

I'm sorry. I got the Christmas spirit. I got the cursive spirit of me. All right. Muhammad Ali. Unbelievable. I don't know if this is a list though. Chris,

why I want to know. This is African Americans. You're not counting like the King Mensa from, uh, Manta Musa. Yeah. I mean, he did Google top 10 black people, but they just said African Americans. That's a little crazy. Google don't care about the rest of the world.

All right. Let's just go. Top, top. Look at, look. Find that list you had, Chris. Can we go top blacks? Top 10 black people of all time. Go.

That's Wikipedia, though. Ah. Just do top 10 in your heart. What's in your heart? What's in your heart? Michael Jordan. Nah. I'm okay.

Over Jordan? Yeah. See, it's hard to be of... See, I can't be a... Six for six in the finals? Civil Rights. Yeah, I'm okay, definitely over. Come on.

Over Jordan? Well, see, I got Elijah Muhammad over both of them. I got Donald Bro. Elijah Mahmah. Over Jordan? Like, Elijah Muhammad go six for six in the finals? But listen, when you talk about... He's done for the free throw line for the gold chain on?

See, I... Competitiveness. I talk about who bore fruit, right? Yeah. You're talking about honorable Elijah Muhammad, man. Don't talk about his followers like that, bro. They're not fruits. They're not fruits, bro.

That's disrespectful, bro. That's disrespectful, bro. That's disrespectful to the nation, bro. Fruit of Islam. Can you take that back? No, it's fruit of Islam. No, what you're trying to do is disrespectful, and you don't want no problems.

I'm defending them. But the honorable Elijah Muhammad, right? So that means Malcolm X. No, no. You don't get credit for your, for what you birth, you get credit for what you did. Honorable Aj Muhammad, he built the nation Islam. So you don't even get Malcolm X,

Muhammad Ali, the Honorable Minister Lewis, Franklin. You don't get all of these people who converted to Islam without the honorable Elijah Muhammad. All right, so fine. Muhammad Ali isn't as good as his coach then. Something to that. There's no Muhammad Ali without the honorable Raj Muhammad. No, I'm talking about his boxing coach.

Who was Muhammad Ali's boxing coach? Customato. Customato. Yeah, but without Michael Jordan. and you're in a great NBA player. I really, I really? Hold on one second. We're bugging, we're bugging, we're talking about fruits.

We're Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan! We're bugging about something. He's sick for six and the finals. Muhammad Ali is Muhammad Ali because of what he did outside of the ring. All right, let's be clear about that. All right. Can we?

You're bugging. You're bugging. But what he did outside of the ring made his legend. But we wouldn't have paid attention to him if he wasn't the best heavyweight. Top ten. Top ten. All right, can we just do top five black people of all time? Top five, oh, that's tough, man. All right.

All right, you all right? You want to go MLK? Okay, okay. I got you. Top five black people all the time. Number one, Jesus, all right? Number two. No, I'm thinking of your hat.

But number one is Jesus. Number one, number one is Jesus. Yo, yo, no, he's not. Jesus is more Arab, bro. We're going to get to them next. We're going to get to them next. Okay, number one is Jesus. No, no, no.

Let's just do top. Give me the list. Give me the list, Chris. This is tough. I can't believe it. Right there, right there, right there. I can't believe you're not going to put the greatest grade of all time. Michael Jordan is the greatest competitor in the history of organized or unorganized sports. How could you not even, but see, I don't know. He's not even coming up for y'all. I don't know where he rakes when you talk about all time.

I put Michael Daxon over Jordan. Ooh, that's not controversial, Alex. That is not a controversial take. Yo, come on, now. bunch of brush. No, hold on. I got Michael. Michael too. Is Michael Jackson the greatest, is he the greatest black man of all time? Michael's top five. Because here's the thing, what we're doing. We're putting like social impact and we're ranking that higher. What we just got to talk about is the greatness in your field and look at the fields equivalently. So if you're

in sports, that counts the same as if you have social impact, which counts the same as if you have business impact. It sounds same as you're a political leader. So was... What was the criteria for Jewish people? Noses. Isn't that what Chris started it with that? You said that in the beginning. Black people can compete with that. We got to make up. Black people can definitely compete in the nose category. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Nelson Mandela got to be up there. Nelson Mandela. Nelson got to be up there, bro. Now, you've got to throw Nelson up there. Because I look at the degree of difficulty, too. Crazy. You know what I mean? That's what I'm saying. Nelson's the degree

difficulty was crazy, bro. You know what I mean? Nelson Mandela. Yes, top five easily, man. A global symbol of resistance, freedom fighters, South Africa's first black president who led the nation out of apartheid? Come on, man. Did 20, what, five in prison?

That's... And see, it's all about what you do once you face the difficulty. He did 25, then came on... United... He became the president of South Africa. But also united the country. It's not like he created a country that was completely flipped. and now subjugated the white people in it.

Got the country out of apartheid and united the country to be a functional democracy. This is a fan... It's fantastic. Bro, like, that is... Okay, I got it. I'm going, Jesus. No, no, no, we're not doing that.

We're not doing it. We're not doing that. What about, like, a menhotep, like one of the ancient Egyptian archivism. Well, see, I was going to go Mansa Musa. Okay. So give me Mansa Musa. Okay.

So the man... Richest person ever. Do we know that? Allegedly. I mean, that's what the screech. You know what I mean? Self-teep century emperor whose pilgrimates

showcased the immense wealth and power of West Africa influencing global trade and perception. All right. Give me Mansa Musa. Give me Nelson Mandela. Okay. Give me the honorable Elijah Muhammad.

Give me Martin Luther King, Jr. No women on this list. Damn. Damn. You didn't have no. Damn. Black women. You're not Jewish people on your list.

Damn. Rachel? Was it no women on the Jewish? What, Miss Rachel? Miss Rachel. Chris, was there no women on the Jewish list? Rachel. Nah, you could put, you could put, you could put.

Cleopatra? Mary. Mm-hmm. Mary. Jesus's mother. If we're really talking about the people who bore fruit, Mary. But we can't. You can't put Mary if I can't get Jesus.

Mary. Mary is a, is a, I think Mary's Middle Eastern. So what was Jesus? Middle Eastern. Semitic. Semitic. I don't know. about that. They say it's thin with bronze.

Yeah. Semetic. I'm taking it. Semetic. We got some bronze. You don't got no bronze. We got a fuck out of here, bro. Fuck out of here. Donald Elijah Muhammad, Nelson Mandela, Manso, who's that the person I said?

You didn't say Martin Luther King. King Jr. and Kodak Black. No. Michael Jackson. There we go. That's a list. All right. All right, Chris.

Top five Asians of all time. I feel like I got to put over up there too, though. No, yes. No, no, no, no. I'll tell you what. Oprah, yo, bro, there's not too many people. What she carved out. What she carved out.

Oprah changed the world. Also, the other thing to look at is like... Yeah, but look at her fruit. Dr. Phil. And? And. Dr. Oz. And Rachel Roy.

I'm not liking them. Before you knew their politics, they were top of the world, bro. Yeah. But forget the fruit thing. What she was able... Like, the competition. that she had at the time was unbelievable. She's going against legacy media, carved out her own lane

as a black woman in the 80s? A heavy-set black woman in the 80s with a name Oprah. And the world fell in love with her. Every, like, she shattered the perception of all demographics and everything. It was like, wait a minute, all of these Midwestern white women

and all these white women down south. Love her? Hot take. You ready? Hot take, you ready? Hot take, you ready? We talk about who Joe Rogan is. He's the modern day Johnny Carson or whatever.

There's no modern day over. He was Oprah. Little Stern. Modern day Oprah. Who? No, I don't think so. For the interviews. I don't, maybe, maybe.

I'm just, I'm talking about cultural impact. Oh, okay. You go on Rogan. Your book is number one. You went on Oprah. Yes, of course, of course. No, I see what you're saying. I'm trying to find the equivalent.

I think just because he's in the comedy space, we go comedy. But I'm talking about the impact of the amount of trust people had in Oprah. The amount of belief, if she got behind something, it was... The one thing I'll say that I think Oprah has over Rogan. I think people... Rogan does that for certain communities, right? Like, if you're a comedian, sort of kind of with fighters, but fighters still got to go in the ring and prove themselves,

but definitely with comedians. If you're in wellness space, if you're in... Like, huge in the wellness space. He is? Oh, my God. He's the one who put on all these wellness doctors, these longevity doctors, science space, like... I didn't know that.

know that. In the same way that all I'm trying to say is the trust that people had in Oprah. Yeah, absolutely. Oprah like yeah, Oprah like Oprah has had a level of trust that was unbelievable. I can't even really, man. But also, I was about to say you can't really think of a platform like that now, but everything was different back then. It wasn't as fragmented as it as it is now. I agree. You know what I'm saying? Oprah came on at four o'clock or five o'clock in some markets every day. Wasn't shit else to watch. It wasn't nothing else to watch. You were captivated. Like, Them type of numbers she was getting is under. Forget it.

Okay. Top five Asians. Go. Chris, take it away. I don't like this list particularly. I mean, you would have Confucius on there. Where the fucking. Also, also, also.

First of all, where the fucking? Let me just, let me just, she's on there. He's on it. Where? It's Jackie Chan slash Bruce Lee, which is crazy. Oh, shit. You were right. I thought you was making a joke.

No, that's literally on the list. That shit says Jackie Chan slash Bruce Lee, Hong Kong, Slash. I want to just do a caveat here. When we're talking about Asians, okay. We're not talking about Indian. Thank you. You know what we're talking about when we say Asian. Right.

Okay? Yes. Go. Gandhi. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's a top five Asians. Top five Asians. Who wrote the Tao?

Religion. If you don't know him, he's not there. Yeah, if you can't. Who wrote a, he's not there? Art of War. Sun Su. Pretty influential to this day. You got him number one up the top?

No, I said I... Oh. I'd have to think about this one. Top five Asians, go. See, Chris don't want to... He don't want to freestyle this because he's going to Taiwan. Yeah, he needs to be respectful. He didn't want to be respectful.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Chinese are pretty good, I guess. Top five Asians of all time. Who's the one that had all the offspring? Oh, Genghis Khan. I guess he's number one. But wasn't he like a dictator or something? Oh, yeah.

Not a nice guy. Brutal tyrant. Not a nice guy. You can't make him number one. Why not? Come on. If like 50% of Asians have a piece of his DNA in him. Damn.

But what does that mean? That's some bad shit, bro. Some bad shit is what that means. Jesus. Genghis Khan was wild. All right. Can we go top five Asians? Can we just say it?

I'm trying to think. Bruce Lee's in the top five. That's the thing. Like we're hesitant to put Bruce Lee because he's a like, action star and a martial artist, but why don't we talk about global impact of Bruce Lee? It's not even close. He's mad. What did he do globally for Asians?

What did he do? Very significant. Did he reinforce a lot of stereotypes that exist to this day? Yeah. What do you mean? Bruce Lee was so dope that every other race acknowledged him as like the bar for something. You might be a little young for the Bruce Lee impact, man. Let me tell you something.

Do you remember the last dragon, bro? For this day. To this day, if you get into a fight with an Asian dude in the street and he fucking... Yeah. You're going to be like, you got it, bro. Right. That is the, that is the effect of Bruce Lee. People don't know what that is, though.

What does that mean? Like, the stance you just made. I know it because I'm old enough to know it. If they do any stance. Any stance. All right. No, that's not true. You do that karate case.

I'm beating the shit. What if he goes like this? What if he goes like that? What if he goes like that? See, that's there. But that's Dragon Ball. If he goes like that. That's different, but I got to see some shit glowing.

If you do this shit to me, I'm fucking you up, Craig. Yeah. I'm fucking you up. Because it was an Italian kid. I don't believe you know nothing. But because it was an Italian kid, Criottie was an Italian kid. That's true. That is true.

That is true. What about my man? Why is you? The Dodgers right now. Who? Who? Greatest baseball player. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

The Dodger dude. Shotani. Oh, Bay, Babe Ruth. Tittani was fired. He could have gone on the black. No, Shoahe Otani. Yeah, Joe, Tony. Hey, Otani.

He's up there, he's up there. It's crazy we're struggling with this one. They have the maturity of people. No, it's crazy. Chris is struggling with this one, yo. I'm about to take your yellow card, Chris. I'm going to take your yellow card. I thought you knew something about Haitian.

This is crazy. Come on, bro. All right, why don't we change the game? Let's do the top Germans. Can we just name five Asians? How about that? Just name five. Rush hour.

Was that fired of people? No, Russia. rush hour was crazy. Rush hour was crazy. Rush hour was that fire that he gets the top five. Trump wants to bring it back. Yeah, he's like mandatory. He's about to pay for another rush hour.

We need another rush hour. You know that shit affected Trump in a meaningful way. This is kind of racist for Asians. I'm not going to lie. Like, it seems like all. Dalai Lama. Yo, Dalai Lama up there. We still don't know what he did.

We don't know what he did. I didn't even think, I didn't know the Dalai Lama was Asian. I know. It was a real person. What else, Chris? Hello Kitty. Goku. Ali Wong.

Goku. Mani Pack. I'm gonna be honest with you. Asians? It's kind of a boring list. Yo, it is, you know what it is? It's kind of a boring list, yo. You know what it is?

Asians dominate in terms of like successful. This guy right here. We might have-a-my-a-my- guy right here. You gotta put Jensen. Hong. You gotta put Jensen-Hong. You gotta put Jensen-Hung. Jensen-Hung is up there.

See, President, CEO, in the video. He's up there. You gotta put Jensen on there. All right, I got top five. Five Asians. Jensen Hong, Bruce Lee, Ali Wong. You put in Ali top five Asians of all time. Ali Wong. Of all time?

Yes, bro. That's disrespectful to Asians. No offense, Ali Lama. All right, let's start. And aquifino. Boom. It's my top five. What you're going to do now?

You see what I'm saying? What are you going to do now? That's my top five right there. All right, what else we doing, y'all? It's been an interesting week, man. I wanted to know your thoughts on this topic. Tell me. Jason Derulo doesn't want to work with women anymore.

Do we have the clip, Chris? This is interesting. Now, remember, scroll up, Chris, I want to read this right. I want to read what happened because I think people forget. Hold on, scroll, I want to read the headline. The headline says, Jason DeRulo, I'll never work with women again. Jason DeRulo delivers shocking comment after sexual harassment. case against him, which I forgot.

I mean, so many people was getting me, too. I didn't even know Jason Drillow got caught up in this. But let's click on what he said, Chris. There's a lawsuit not too long ago by an artist that was like hired to your label that was dismissed. Twice. What did you learn going through that? Never work with women. Oh, come on.

There's truth in every joke. But it's a sad, it's a sad truth. It's a sad truth. Like I will never be alone in a room with a woman that I work with, like ever, ever again. What? Look at the timing. It's too risky. That case was dismissed twice in two different states. And there's hardly no mention of it online. When that case was brought up, it was on every single blog, every single front page.

And I lost so many brand deals, relationships, off of a story that was not even slightly believable. She said I sacrificed a goat in a sexual ritual. All people read was the headline, right? And that's all it takes to lose everything. That's a crazy concept. I lost millions of dollars off of Arborated arbitrary story that some woman told like a crazy crazy story that someone been told so with that

being said how can i be comfortable being in a room with a woman that i that i work with and not feel like she can just say whatever she wants it's like it's not it's not worth it to me Listen, and I'm going to tell you something else. Go scroll up to the headline, Chris. The media is still doing it because they'll put a headline, I'll never work with women again. Jason DeRulo. You understand what I'm saying?

He just said never being alone in a room with them. But listen, even if he did say, I'll never work with a woman again, he said it in Jets, but he said it's truth in every joke. My thing is just the context of why he said that. If you don't understand the context of why he said that, I don't know what to tell you. I thought he explained that very well just now. He's like, I was with a woman,

and she just made up some crazy wild shit, and it became a headline everywhere, and I lost millions of dollars. Why would I ever put myself in that situation? Now, let me put... His PTSD is real. Let me pose something to you. Okay.

Let's say that there's a girl, and she had a horrible encounter with a dude from a certain race, you guys pick your race. And then she said, I just never want to be alone in a room with a person of that race anymore. How would society view her? Good counter.

Society might, and she got an actual reason because she did have a bad situation with them and she's now painting that entire race. Why would she make it race specific though? No, I'm hypothetically, I'm saying that. He's making it gender specific. Yeah. And she's like, this happens.

to me with a person from this race and now I don't feel comfortable. Then we would deem that person racist and that they're... But the reality is that's what we all do. We do do those broad generalizations, right? But we deem them wrong, right, societally. We go, that's like... Well, it depends. If I have an encounter with a white person and it's a racist encounter,

I'm already like, man, white people would be on some bullshit. And we would look at you and we would say, hey, man, don't paint all white people like this. You would have an encounter with an asshole. Yeah. And I guess in this circumstance, we should also tell him, hey, you had an encounter with an asshole. And it's probably not a good idea to paint all women with that same brush stroke or whatever that's. Especially if he's worried about losing brand deals.

I'm like, this is not the way to get him back. But why can we not acknowledge his PTSD? You can say you have PTSD over the situation, which I thought sounded very authentic. Yeah. Without saying I'll never be in a room with a woman again alone. It's easy to say that. You hate schoolers, Chris. You want all scooters off the streets in New York

because of one bad encounter because you stepped out on the sidewalk and somebody in the scooter came you wanted all school a bed. You never said that dumb ass driver that was riding the scooter. I said that they're going the right way. I have no problem with them.

You never have said that on the street. You never have said that. Right way. No, right way on the street. Right way on the street. Wrong way. Talk about sidewalks. They got to go.

Nope. You wanted scooters off the street. You said it here on this podcast. I want scooters. traveling at a safe speed in the right direction obeying traffic laws. It's very easy. Yo, why? Those people on the scooters, are they, are they immigrants?

Are they? I don't know. Do you have an issue with immigrants, Chris? Damn. No matter who's on a scooter, I just want them to obey the laws of the city. I don't know if I actually believe that because you never say anything when Big Pum was on the Cherry Red 150. Damn! How fast was it moving? Not too fast. There you go. Also, man, you need a few more CCs to get that.

Also, we act like women don't do that type of generalization. I mean, women was online debating whether or not they trust the bear or a man. You know what I'm saying? All men. Right? Every man that you've ever encountered over bear. I bet you met more men than you met bears. That's a good-ass point.

You was choosing the bear over the man because of the bad experiences that you had with a man or maybe a couple of men. So, man. So you're making my point. What? That you can't paint a whole group. people with the brush stroke. What is the saying? Broad brush stroke.

Listen, I'm not saying... We say culturally not to do it. But I think that what we're doing here is empathizing with this guy that went through a really fucking horrible situation. I empathize with everybody. If a girl tells me she had a bad experience and she has PTSD because of it and it's certain things that she's not going to do.

Certain people, she's not going to be around. I get it, I understand. Same thing with Jason DeRolo. I get it, I understand. Like, I don't... I see why he said what he said. But it's wrong. Why?

What he's saying is wrong? What's wrong? Because what he's doing is the same thing people do who think like all Muslims are going to blow shit up. It's like, if that's the case, then Alan, I got plenty of reason to be like, yeah, we don't trust Muslims because we saw the fucking planes fly into the building. But we don't do that. We understand that those are some crazy people. How long are it to take you to get over that? Get over what?

Did you ever feel like that? I never for a second judge Muslims afterwards. Exactly. What about two hours? What about you? When we were a little ignorant. Okay, so give him some time to get over. Yeah, but.

It's still fresh for it. I didn't, I didn't chalk it up. I didn't talk it up to his mom. I didn't say that every Muslim I saw it was going to be. Yeah, I didn't talk it up to that. I was just like, you know, when you saw the whole situation on a plane, you've got a little worried. And worried, I didn't snitch on them. I ain't say, yo.

I'll say, I'll tell you some shit. You was a little leery. Can I be honest with you? Can I be honest with you? if I have my car parked and I see a woman trying to parallel park in front of it, I'll watch the entire parking process. Oh, yes, absolutely. If it's a woman, I'll watch the entire parking process to make sure she gets there.

That's it. Gotta make sure these jokes. Listen, listen. I'm going to watch the whole thing, right? And I'm going to be there for 30 minutes. Her turn on a parallel park in a gigantic spot. I'm going to watch the whole thing. Now, if it's a guy, I don't even watch.

Bro, hold on. Let me tell you why that's so funny. I'm driving in Jersey the other day. I'm coming off the exit. And, you know, you're going around the exit. Like, you know, you go around the exit and you're yielding. So it's a one way. Some idiot is all coming this way.

He's all on it. I'm like, what the fuck? Why would he even turn it? It's not a turn. So I'm looking. Asian. Asian. The first thing I thought to myself was,

I'm not even choking. The first thing I thought to myself was, it's not a stereotype. It's true. It's not true. I'm just telling you what I saw Chris. In this circumstance, in this circumstance, he's Jason Derulo. He's trying to get home to his family.

You've been to Asia? Say again? Have you been to Asia? Yeah. What country? I went to, uh, there's one, right? I went to China. Right.

How's the driving? Yeah, because they're all self-driving. Yeah. People drive their asses off. Because they're not even in control. What? Self-driving cars. No, scooters.

No, I went to Tokyo. I went to Tokyo. I went to Tokyo. I'm sure the driving is beautiful. in Tokyo. The driving was fantastic in Tokyo. But you have to understand, they're equally terrified of each other, so everybody's very close. Right? It's just a little bit more what do you call the nuclear bomb mutual. That's it. All I'm saying is it sounds crazy. No, it don't sound crazy. What people wanted to do is they want to say, they want to say it's sexist.

But it's not sexist when you take in the context of what he's saying. It is sexist, but he's also, he's also weighing the right. It's not sexist with the context, though. Because to your point, let's just say you said, like that scenario is true, right? Yeah. I'm a little white girl. I get, you know, something happens to me by a black guy, right? If that person says to me, I don't want to be around any black men. That's racist.

That's racist. Is it or is it because of a circumstance that happened to her? I got a perfect example of this. How was it racist? Go with your perfect example. So I don't, a woman I went to college with lived somewhere across, the street from Karima Abdul-Jabbar. One day, she's like eight years old.

The doorbell rings. She opens it, and Karim is standing there holding her dead dog in his arms. And he said, your dog just got run over on my front lawn. Here it is. Who ran it over? I guess another neighbor.

Oh. She claims she's always been afraid of black people since that moment because there's a seven-foot-two giant guy black holding her dead dog in her arms and gives it to her as a kid, which I think is a little nuts to do. Karim, sorry. if it really happened.

What's the verdict? Yeah, you shouldn't be afraid of black people. Why would, yeah, why would she be afraid of him, though? He didn't harm her. No, but if that's like the person. He associates the drama of the moment with this guy. Get over that shit. Why she is, I don't understand that one.

Because he didn't do anything to her. How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this? And he said that was a perfect example. No, that's not, that's a horrible example. How about this? It was an example that was presented to me.

How about this? Jason Derulo. could say this, yo, this is ridiculous. I shouldn't be treating all women a certain way because of what this one crazy woman did. But I'm gonna be cautious. I have so much to lose with one shitty interaction. I can't take the risk in the same way

that a person that's really rich and famous should not need to have security every single day. People should obey the law and not harass and attack you. But the risk is so. great for a person who's really rich and famous. So they go, you know what? I'm going to have security. There's nothing wrong with that. Because what you're doing is essentially when you have security,

you're assuming that there are people out there that are going to hurt you. And that's a real concern. So Jason Durlo, if he just framed it like, yo, this sucks. I love women. I want to work with women all this at the time. There are circumstances where I prefer working with women. But I feel like that's what he was doing, though. When he goes, when he goes, I don't want to work with women, then he lasts.

And then he was like, it's something. He was the most. What's another way that a lot of entertainers lose a ton of money? He gave this as an example. They get ripped off by their accounts, right? I'm just using it from a corporate perspective. Right. If I have an issue with somebody in corporate,

I'm not having a conversation with that person without somebody else being present. Yes. Because that person will go twist your word. I want everything on record. I want to have a supervisor or some superior in the room when I'm bitting my frustration. But you're not saying I'm never going to work with a corporation again.

The corporation? No, but I might not work with that person, that individual. Yeah, well, that proves the point. You're like, I'm treating that individual based on their actions. So you think women are a corporation? I think they are. I think that we start, I think we have to treat them like corporations. By the way, I'm not saying that he shouldn't work with women again.

I'm just simply saying I can understand what he's coming from. That's all I'm saying. We all empathize with where he's coming from. And then on a daily basis, we take all these stereotypes that are floating around in our heads and we say, you know what? Those things are wrong and that we live in a civil society. where we treat people equally and we give everyone a clean slate. But you don't see how the media took the actual nuance in context of the conversation? Of course.

And rage baited it. Jason Brodow doesn't want to work with women. And that was the issue. That was also a point that he made. And yes, the media does that every single time. They do that with you. They do that with Jason Drullo. They do it with every single person, 100%.

Somebody might take this and put, Shalom and God agrees, Jason Drullo shouldn't work with women. They will. They will. They will. Which is not what I'm saying. That's what you believe. That's what you believe.

What I'm simply saying is... Listen, here's the thing. Jason Rule is in a very privileged position. He's like a very wealthy guy. He can afford to pay men to do those jobs. Some of us got to get women because they're about 25 years. So we're not in that situation

where we can afford to only work with men. What an amazing privilege he has. You're trying to look at me. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You're a mom is different. Moms are totally different. Listen, have you ever been warned by a woman? Have you ever had a woman say to you

hey Charlemagne watch that with her because she lies a lot Taylor's done that for me really you know girls out there

that are lying a lot I mean not only it had nothing to do with anything of this nature but it was just like yo I don't know if I want you talking to that person about this because

I'll be honest it's not even it's not even girls they're like dudes out there that we didn't hire, for example, because you just knew. Like, you looked at their content and you knew that they were just going to make some video or do something. This is why I didn't want to work here, blah, blah, blah. You just knew their character.

So that's just judging a person by their character. Yeah, I mean, listen, and nowadays... But you got me convinced. I think that we should just judge women all as one. I was getting better. I was becoming a more three-dimensional human being that sees the greatness and the flaws in each person. but you brought me back. You put some holiday spirit in my mom.

It is, though. You know what, though? No, I'm going to stick with this. It is, it is a constant, it is a constant process you have to go through in your mind to judge things on a case-by-case individual basis. It's just it. You know what I'm saying? Because you've had one, if you have one encounter with one race, one gender, you know, one sexuality, that's what we do. We lump everybody together.

Why? I don't know. I feel like in New York. We're so comfortable with each other that we judge people more by their clothing than we do by their race. You know what I mean? But that's not always good.

Think about how many times Alex got mistaken for gay? But that's a good thing. Only twice in here. Never. No, never. That's a good thing. I was a positive thing.

I was having to commentate somebody that was like, yo, you talk about somebody was like, Alex the homo? And I'm like, yo, he is not. He's not gay. Exactly. Yo, guys, guys. Alex is not gay.

Bro. He's not gay. I'm not even going to tell you what some people think the F and WTF means, bro. Yeah, I'm not even going to do that. That it stands for wheezy because she is. She is too.

They think that it's an LGBTQ operation. Shut up, it is. It is. It is. It's a black. Y'all got benefits, didn't you? It's a black. We do.

We do good benefits. Like, Trump going to shut all that shit down, okay? Nope. Don't know! No! No! Soon as they find out of y'all be getting some subsidies because of your sexuality? Now, you know what?

Whoa. If you're getting subsidies sex rights, you don't have to prove it once a year. That's right. Yo, we're not going to let everybody just claim gay unless we got some receipts. We need to see dick on the tongue. We need a subsidy every four months.

It's a subsidy. To prove that these LGBT suits subsidies you're receiving are accurate. Dick on tongue. Once a quarter. Not from Wheezy. Not from Wheezy either. You.

No, you. You. Dick on you. I'll let all my employees know about that. Speaking to the mic, yeah. What? The employee. Put the mic on your lips.

I need A.I. That's what you want your employees to do? You need H.R. Stop. You want a bad. You want a bad boy record. You want a bad boy record so bad. You do.

I watched the doc. And you saw it. You saw it. I saw it. Did you watch the doc finally? I did. That shit was crazy. It was unbelievable.

That shit was crazy. I'm an episode in. I'm an episode in, by the way. I'm just one episode in. How could you stop? Yeah. I couldn't stop. No, once I was in, I was in.

No, it's truly. I had to go get a drink. I'm like, y'all got to go pour me some wine. Yeah, we got it. Me and the wife went to a whole bottle of wine. That shit was crazy. And the wild part, it's a bunch of stuff I've heard before. But when you see it all packaged together.

And you see it on video. Oh, God, the old footage is just, man. This isn't the first one, though. What's that? This isn't the first back of the divest. Nah, but this was the most elation. This one was tough. This was the best.

Bro, they give you reminders after every accusation. That's how you know that legal was a lot. involved. Yes. Because somebody will say some shit and it will immediately go, we reached out to the Combs family for comment and they did not respond. And the worst thing about being somebody like Diddy, there's no benefit of the doubt anyway. Because it ain't about the stuff that they're saying he did. It's the stuff we know. Yeah. So when you see the things you know, you don't put nothing past him. Nope. You know what I'm saying? It's like, God. No. Yeah. That was phenomenal. It's crazy.

It happened. I watched that doc on Friday night. And it was a good reminder of just life. I don't ever. I don't think you can get that power hungry. I think that's got to be in you already. Yeah. I think it's like a gene that's blind dormant. And when you add the right things to that gene, it comes out. I don't think people, people aren't naturally like that.

Like money, power don't naturally just make you like that. Because then you have other people, right? Like you can have somebody like, I'm using the tanis. You can have somebody like an Oprah Winfrey. Who you've seen throughout her life with that power and that money do amazing things. Not just for the people she put on, right? But like just people building schools and donating money and stuff like that. So that already has to be in you to be whatever that shit is.

I don't even know what you call that. Is that evil? I don't even know what you call it. Yeah, maniacal. Man. Yeah, bottomless pit. And the only thing that can fill it is a thirst for more power. Damn.

And that's the problem. It's like, if power is your goal or money is your goal, you're in a really difficult position because there will always be somebody more wealthy and there will always be somebody more powerful so you never stop pushing. If you're fortunate enough where, like, art is your goal, like you have a skill, you know, be it like radio, be it comedy, be it whatever, the thing that you really care about, be it, you know, your UFC fighter, whatever. You just dedicate yourself to that craft and being better at the craft is this thing that

validates you. But if the only thing that validates you is more money or more power, you're going to be capable of some horrendous shit. I think power even more than money. Without a doubt. Because there's plenty. Did he, like, let's be clear, did he is nowhere near one of the richest people in the world, right?

So we know that there's plenty of people out here that have billions and billions and billions of dollars. You don't hear this type of shit that they were on. This was a power trip for Diddy. Like I'm talking about an ego power trip, a 35, 40-year ego power. And it never ended. Even when you're watching him leading up to jail. You could tell him about the girl. He's still on the phone trying to manipulate people.

Yeah. But especially with the girls, like, wanted to fuck someone's girl. That is why. Yo, let's talk about it. But that's specifically. a power move. That is how can I exert power? That's like the most primal version of that. How can I exert power over another individual? God bless the day. Kim Porter was Albie Shaw's girlfriend. Another one of his baby, Missy, another one of his baby mom, Sarah was Tupac's girlfriend.

What about the one that was Eric Serman? Eric's, Eric, someone on Breakfast Club this week. Eric, that, Eric told the most ridiculous story on that shit. You see a little off? I don't know if he's off, But that was a ridiculous story. Which one? Well, he said he pulls up in the car. He got Mee sitting in the passenger seat. Diddy taps on the window. He rolls it down.

Diddy swings on him. He laughs because he knows Diddy can fuck him up. So he tells Diddy, all right, let's go around the corner. So he gives him a ride. You Uber in him to fight. You give him a ride in your car. You go around the corner and when y'all get around the corner, he says, yo, listen to this.

And y'all just start listening to music together. That was a ridiculous story. That was. I'm surprised they put it in the dock. That was ridiculous. I can't even believe you repeat that. Like that, you don't sound ridiculous. Yo, shout out Eric, man.

I love Eric, man. That was a ridiculous story. It made no sense what she was. I'm curious. How accurate do you think this doc was, like percentage-wise, of telling his story? If you have to guess. I really don't know. 100%. Because the reason why I question, I'm like, they use so much footage that Diddy shot himself

to make him look bad. And so that's how the power of a doc, you can use the same footage and make somebody seem horrible. And he would use that footage to make himself look. That footage he was taken before he went to jail, I don't know why would he even tape that. There's no way any of that makes you look like. He thought he was going to win. This is going to be his redemption story. And then in the edit, you can put what you choose putting.

So show you manipulating the middle. No, no, no, no. He wouldn't have a put that. I have a take on that. So the beginning sequence when you're seeing this footage when he's talking to the lawyers, right? And we need to, you know, know how to manipulate the public or whatever that is, right? I do agree with you. I think he's going into the trial going like, they don't really have much, I'm going to win.

And if you look at what we thought was going to happen to him and what ended up happening to him, I mean, how many years did you get? Four years or something like that? 50 months. Okay. So it's like, how many months? 50. Oh, 50 months.

Okay. So it's like basically four years with time served, right? And you end up doing like two thirds of that, right? So let's say he does like three years. Or even a little bit less. Like two. Okay. So it's really not that much time for how heinous the crimes we thought it was going to be.

So I imagine him and his legal team are going into this and they're going, yeah, I think we can beat this thing, right? But what Diddy, to his credit, is understanding that who he is as a person is ruined. And he says something earlier where he goes, listen, I want to have my life. I want to be able to do things. What he means is not I want to stay out of jail. What he means is I don't want to be this. But I want to still be Diddy.

And then what he's saying is, hey, you guys are going on CNN. He goes, people aren't on CNN no more. They're on TikTok. They're on social media. You guys have to fight the propaganda war on these places. So I don't think what he's saying is, yo, you got to lie to everybody and make them think I'm innocent when we know I'm guilty. I think he's coming from the place of- He would lie. Well, let me get it all out.

I think he's coming from the place of, or maybe believing his lawyers, and going, yo, we're going to beat this shit. But it's not worth beating it if everybody still thinks I'm the worst person ever and I can't be ditty no more. So you guys got to start pushing whatever propaganda you can or start making these arguments not on CNN where nobody sees it, but on social media. so people could realize I'm a good guy and I'm innocent. But they saw it on CNN because the Cassie video broke on CNN. Fair, fair. But I don't think that's what he was talking about. I think he's talking about his innocence.

But the reason I think that he was just willing to lie and continue to manipulate because he was lying and manipulating until the Cassie video came out. You understand what I'm saying? Like he was telling us all of this stuff Cassie said he did. It was not true. It was false. It was fabricated. Did the video.

A guy like him is used to lying and manipulated. But you got to be a madman to notice. these videos, this is what I'm saying, show you. To know that a video exists. Yeah. Of you doing what you did to Cassie in the hotel in putting out statements saying what she's saying is completely He don't think that's getting out, obviously.

But that's just, but that just shows who you, the type of person you are. But think about it, you know how many shit he got away with? Like, oh, my God. He creates so many things. Yeah, so he, not only he beats so many things, I think we got to really look at this. And the doc said this really well. If you wanted to be a hip-hop artist that had access to mainstream success,

there were two doorways, there was Andre Harrell in Uptown Records, and there was Russell. And that was the way to get money in hip-hop. Can you imagine... And R&B. N-R-M-B. Can you imagine the power?

Imagine the treatment from not only the community, but the artists that want to be part of it. And on top of that, he was the brainchild for a lot of these artists. It's not like now where an artist can pop off on TikTok and then these record companies try to scoop them up and they just let that artist do their thing. You had to build them.

He's picking their outfits, telling them what to say. So in his mind, and you even see them talking on the, and I forget one of his buddies was saying it, it was like, Andre told him it's like, it's all you. It's not about the artist. You're the one that has to nurture and the curate. So in his mind, he's like, they're just tools, pawns. come to me, I make you a star, everybody else is thinking, oh my God, he's the star maker.

You're not getting treated like a normal person and you can get away with whatever the fuck you want to get away with because those people know there's only two ways to make it. I'm telling you, once again, I think that's something that's in you. Like, it's some type of- I agree. I'm not disagree with you. Because I've seen people have that kind of power and that kind of influence before and be good people. Like that's why I hate when people say like, this, that's how you got to make it in the industry.

No, that's what he chose to do. You know what I mean? Oh, 100%. There's no excuses for the behavior. I'm just trying to say, like, how if you already have that disposition, and then you have all these positive feedback loops for that disposition, you're going to start to believe your own power. You're going to start to believe that you're invincible.

And that is dangerous. Yeah, and the fucking, like, I agree with you, the fucking of the girl thing is so weird, bro. But there are dudes that do that. Yeah, because I think that they really want to suck the cock that the, of that the girl is with. I really believe that, yo. Hip-hop heads have done that. That's weird old shit to me.

It's just like, yo, you want everybody's girl. Because you're not trying to fuck her. You're trying to fuck him, not literally, but emotionally. You're trying to let that guy know, yo, like, I can take what's yours. And then when that guy makes a whole fucking documentary about you that ruins your fucking life, because I'm going to tell you something, everybody keeps talking about the limited amount of time that Diddy got. It's like, oh, he got 50 months. It ain't about the time.

He'll never. Yeah, his life is over. Did he again. Yeah. And he told y'all. in the dock, that's what drives him. Being that character, being that person is what drives him.

He cares about that more than he cared about his own fucking freedom. He wasn't on there saying, man, how do I keep out, stay out of jail? How does it's going to cost me money? He's like, we're losing. You know, I want to still be able to be me like, huh? Yo, there's a part, I think it's episode three or four.

He's talking to his kids and he's like, God told me to be quiet. But that don't mean y'all can't talk. That don't mean y'all can't talk. What y' y'all going to say? He's so worried. about other people coming to his defense and being ready to lie for him. He wouldn't give that girl $5,000. But then wanted that girl to come to his defense.

Great. Had the nerve to tell that young lady, what was her name, Kalina from Dirty Money? Yeah, forgot. I had the nerve to tell that young lady, I know you were jumping in the casket for me, but when this woman was fucked up financially, reached out to him for $5,000, he wouldn't give it to him.

And then she's still backing. Man, get the fuck out. I heard a good ditty story. Get one. ain't her one in years. No, not a good Diddy story. Like, a did that confirm some of this kind of shit? It's just, it's a little, but I'm trying to, like, withhold certain information.

Anyway, so a guy goes to meet him for a lunch. It was about, like, I don't know if it was a brand or something he was building. Go, sits down at this nice restaurant, and a waiter comes over. He orders like a salad. And Diddy goes, yo, yo, yo, yeah, cut that shit out. You would ditty right now. You order whatever the fuck you want. They start eating steak, a lobster, like.

like caviar, chef, Chris Diles coming, all the things. Finished the meal. It was great hanging with you, man. And I really appreciate you. I'll talk to you soon. And he just walks out on the bill $12,000. No reason to not believe. But that's the type of shit.

That's a straight power move. I'm going to walk out on this bill, and what are you going to do about it? You need me. You're going to eat that. I don't need you that. That's a good segue in a little ride. I don't feel like any man, right, that can say things like, oh, Diddy, you know, I woke up. What Little Rod said?

Sometimes I would wake up and it'd be girls. Sometimes I wake up it was Diddy. What? What episode is this in? Episode four, I think. You got to keep watching. But Little Rod wanted to get paid. I feel like somebody like Rod would have been down for whatever as long as he would have got his money.

You understand what I'm saying? Like I feel like if he'd have got paid, he'd have been down for whatever. Yeah. Because you ain't sticking around for that type of shit. You know what I mean? Like, you're not sticking out.

How are you going to say you got sexually assaulted by Diddy, but you stuck around? As a man? But I think he thinks, hey, this is my big break. And that's what a lot of these dudes would take advantage of the people. It's like they want the big break. So what are you really mad about this?

Are you mad things that didn't go your way? He didn't get his big break. I think I would be a lot more madder if I woke up with a cock in my face. I'm sure you would, but I'm just saying this guy. Okay, can I say, actually, no, you go, Taylor.

Okay. Oh, I was going to ask this about Fonsworth Bentley. Do you think he's, like, protected? He's the one that's like, this year and Augusta. Huh?

No, he's not in it. Talking to the way. Why isn't Fonsworth? Because he's guilty, too. You think? I think there's a lot of people. Why are we just putting stuff on Fondley? No, no, no, no, not guilty too.

No, I'm asking, like, we haven't heard from him. I wonder why. No, no, I'm not. Let me take that back. There's a lot of people in Diddy Life we haven't heard from. But we've seen him like with Diddy a lot. Not really.

If you were privy to all the shit and you saw all the shit, you can't exactly come out now and be like, yo, it was really bad. Because there might be versions where you participated in the shit. And to the gay- But that's what I'm saying about the Little Rods and those guys. Or even Kirk Burroughs and those guys like that. To the gay rumors is what's really interesting. And I think this happens to some people.

People always go, oh, Hollywood, when people get into Hollywood, they start doing gay shit, whatever. No, no. I think if you have a maniacal drive for power, you exert that power in any way you can. And I think sex also becomes something of power. You saw it in the documentary where he wants to fuck other people's girls. Not because they're fine. There's plenty of girls that are fine. He wants to fuck them because it's a way of utilizing his power and showcasing his power over another individual.

If your lust is for power, not even for pussy, it don't matter if it's pussy or butthole at the end of the day because the thing that you're trying to satisfy, the it you're trying to scratch, is exerting that power over another individual. Dominance. And that's why he could, if he was allegedly fucking these dudes, that's what that shit was about.

I bet I could fuck that guy. I bet I could make that guy suck my dad. I bet I can make this girl fuck another dude if I say. I bet I could make that dude. fuck another dude and I watch. And it's nothing. You stop being a sexual being in terms of procreation. Sex is just another function of this lust for power.

Oof, scary. It is scary, man. And I'm telling you, I think that's just something that's in people, bro. Yeah. Like, I don't think you just... And unfortunately? Wake up one day with money and power. Like, I'm just going to be like this.

Like, that shit turned you into something that was already there. Unfortunately, though. That was interesting about it, though. It tried, I thought, tried to get to the root of where that... I came from. But I think unfortunately, the things that those, I think why you see these people in positions of power and success is because those primal instincts that they have actually give them a competitive advantage in the space.

You and I don't want to hurt people. We care about people at the end of the day. So we're not going to do certain things that would be shameless that would really negatively impact people. If you have that maniacal drive, you just destroy everything your way. on your way to achieving your dreams, they have a way greater competitive advantage over me and you. Sure.

Yeah. At now, at the end of the day, they go to jail and hopefully rot in prison from what they've done. But, like, in terms of a one-on-one competition, if you're willing to just kill everybody around you, that's a big competitive edge. I agree. And I also wanted to,

go back to what you said about the, you know, people who were around and saw these things. It's just like, yo, are you really having these conversations now because you truly care? right? You want these things to stop hard because life really didn't turn out the way you wanted. And now that, you know, Debo that got knocked out by Craig, you come in to snatch

your chain back. You know what I'm saying? I don't, I don't, I personally is like, I'm like, I don't know if I want to hear from you, bro. Which one is that? All of them. Yeah. Every single person that's literally on it, except for the women. The women, I understand. If you're victims, yeah. But the Kirk Burroughs and the Why not him? Like, that was the one he was

co-founder, right? Yes. Yeah. Like, I think he's a good person to hear from because it's like he was really just the business and the brains behind. He said that he sexually assaulted him, bro. I mean, but he called him out and tried a while ago but lost his case. He ain't said him on no sexual assault. I don't know if he mentioned that during it, but he probably don't want to bring that up. Yeah, like I think the movie's like a cautionary tale, especially if you're in the industry.

But ego. Well, you see all this energy and sometimes there's like a temptation just to go with the flow for people. Like, well, no one else is saying anything and seems to be working. Why should I say something? And now when you look at this with the perspective of time, you know, you would have wanted to be someone if you had been there who kind of separated and removed yourself from that situation. The shit's always going to come out. So remove yourself from that stuff. It's hard when there's money and access.

I mean. And blow the card or two, Chris? Like, I don't feel like you should just walk away knowing that it's a bunch of boys. But you remember how. powerful. I'll put it like this. Can you guys speak to that time period? Yeah, yeah. I think that like a lot of the... I was there. Okay, well, speak, can you just speak?

Because I think a lot of people now... He's so much bigger than anybody right now. But specifically speak to like the gatekeeping and the power structures. Because right now kids just go, I'll blow up on TikTok and then I'll get a record deal. And if I don't, I'll just sell out my own shows. Speak to what that time period was with music. And who were the power players and what that power actually meant? He had an incredible hold over the...

industry because he somehow managed a kind of straddle being both street hip hop and rmb but also incredibly pot this is especially after biggie died right like yeah he became he became a commercial success pop after i remember being in a club somewhere downtown and i saw saddhs from brand newbie and who was like one of my favorite emcees i can't believe i'm in the same places saddhaq did he came into the club when i say that literally if there were 500 people there he just walked through the door, the entire club kind of like got up and just like moved with him. Move towards him, at him.

He couldn't even get in. And I looked and like literally the only two people who had him moved were me and Sadat X. And I was like, damn, this is the guy that people should be giving all this energy to. And did he just like- He was bigger than the artist, bro. That's the thing you-

So much bigger. So much bigger. And he just really like dominated the space and he felt like- Why didn't Russell get that kind of him? energy. I don't think Russell wanted that sort of energy. They weren't all in the videos. No, Russell didn't have

the charisma. He often didn't put himself out there like that. Russell... I'm not too. I'm sure. Rapper got back to the dead. Jekyll and Hyatt. That's not true. Russell did try. Is it? Deaf Comedy Jam. He came out at the end of every single thing. That's fair. Russell Simmons presents. Thank you. Good night.

He gave a thing good night, but he had a little bit of a lisp. He wasn't a great speaker. He didn't have the... But neither was Did he? I mean, Did he just kind of forced his way Did he was charisma. Did he created a character? Inside the, yes, but inside the actor's studio, that little moment where he's in that space and his mom is there. Like, there's a perfect example.

He knows the space he's in. He knows this not traditional hip-hop space is all. This is a stuffy-ass white space. And he is crushing that shit. He's teasing little stuff with his mom. His mom is hilarious. There's these little back and forth. He's milking this thing.

An unbelievable level of comfort in a space that it got, yes, he went to Catholic. school and that kind of stuff, but a space that you would assume he might not be completely comfortable with. He also was an incredible character. I mean, if you had to name like the top five hip hop characters of all times. Oh, he's up there. Yeah, it's like Diddy, Snoop. I put Little John up there, right?

And even though he wasn't a character, but I'm just talking about like Tupac. And what I mean, I'm talking about aesthetic, meaning people, folks can spoof. You know what I'm saying? Like, did he's easily spoofable. He thinks of himself as a character. That's what I thought, hey, I'm going to change my name now and become a new person. He would change his name and he's, oh, I'm loved now. So now I'm going to act completely different.

Because he is, because he is pretending at the end of the day. He's a kid who grew up in the suburbs. Like, yeah, his dad was a hustler or whatever like that. But, like, he's emulating that hustler lifestyle. And a lot of times, if you grow up outside of something, you become the greatest observer of it. So you have to almost be a character to survive within it. The people who grew up in it aren't characters because it's who they are.

You don't have to be a Gucci dude from amongst corner of South Carolina or wherever the fuck, right? Like you, I'm talking to you. You know what I mean? It's like because it is who you are. You don't have to think about it every single day. He has to, I'm from the suburbs.

I got to make sure these people in Harlem respect me. I have to go out of my way. That part was so crazy when he went walking. You ain't see that part. No, what is this? Bro, he goes walking through Harlem. Oh, yeah. He's shaking hands and hugging people.

Then he gets back in the car and he's like, I got to go take a shower. I need some hand sanitized. He was like, yo, I've been hugging these people. I got to go washing boiling water. Like, God, damn, bro. That's ugly. Like, yo, that's wild to me.

First of all, I don't know when the last time he's done stuff like that. I'm not going to sit here and act like I do. I don't know if he pops up in Harlem on the regular. But to be going through what you're going through and then to just go out there, let me go shake these hands and kiss these babies and try to, I need my people to have my back type shit, but it's all for show only for you to get back in the car

and be like, I need to go wash and boiling water. I didn't know who is from the suburbs. I don't know. I mean, Mount Vernon is not like Scarsdale, but it's not. I don't know, nothing about Mount Vernon. I mean, it's tough part. There's parts of Mount Vernon that are tough, but it is the first suburb outside of the Bronx.

So it's the first part of Westchester. If you're in the Bronx and you're trying to like step it up 5.20 degrees, Mount Vernon's the next stop. Yeah. People always say he's from Harlem though. Well, you ask you all the questions. Yeah. If you woke up, you was in the studio with Diddy, and you woke up with Diddy and the band with you and your butt whistle? Mm-hmm. Did you want to work with any other record executives ever again? Ever again. Any moguls ever again. Would you want to work?

I can't make music with men no more, though. You know what I'm saying? I can't make music with men. I cannot make music with men. You see what I'm saying? I can only make music with women. That's all I'm saying, right? He could blackball you, though.

Well, it's not just blackball. He's an incredible dream seller. I had one professional interaction with him once. And, you know, it was like a radio thing. I did some sort of live event with them. And afterwards, he like, like, Chris, you're incredible. Me and you are going to go to the moon together. We're going to go so far doing this shit together.

I can't, you know, like he spent 45 seconds gassing me up. I was like, oh shit. This guy really wants to work with me. But we're going to call you soon. We're going to, you know, never heard from the guy again, right? Like it was, oh, but like, that's just a very small thing. Like, if he wants you to believe. Steve Jobs had that too.

You get people involved in like, there's a term for it. I forget the name, but it's like the dream cycle. Right. And everybody gets on your page and invested in this dream. that you're creating and that becomes their reality. Right. And you need that and motivate big groups. And you're like, man, this dude who has all this other things going on

who is so much. And he's looking at me for 30 seconds. Now if you're a guy like Little Rod, and he's, you heard him, he's calling his phone, he's leaving him messages. No matter what happens for some people who are like very desperate to kind of have that access and have that opportunity, you don't know what some people are going to put up with because they're so afraid to lose that opportunity. Well, I'm going to tell you.

something, a lesson that I've learned, never compromise yourself for a position. Right. You can't too. It's not worth it. You know what I'm saying? Because at the end the day, you're going to end up just like Kirk Burroughs. You're going to end up just like Little Rod, sitting on somebody's documentary, angry and upset because of the choices that you made. Because it is choices that they made. Yeah, but now you're kind of

blaming the guy for them. I'm not. They made choices. No, I don't think he made a choice. Yo, come on. We can't take away. Listen, you can't take away accountability from all of these people who sat around and saw Diddy doing this wild shit, but was cool with it when it was benefiting them. I think you can say this guy has a very well-documented track record of ripping off artists

and not paying people. Okay. Chris, keep that same energy. If and if, right, Trump gets out of office and they try to round up everybody around him, everybody in his administration that was complicit, keep that same energy and be like, well, it wasn't their fault. The guy was very charming and he had a lot of power and this and that. No, no, no, no, no.

No, no, no. I don't know if that's a one-to-one comparison. What do you mean? You either complicity, you're not. I, listen, I tend to agree with Charlotte, which is like, not, you can be a victim and be complicit. So, like, Diddy can do something horrible to you that you shouldn't have experienced, but you can aid and abet him and doing horrible things to other people, which you shouldn't do. And just because you're a victim doesn't make it okay that you've hurt.

other people. And also, we always sit back and we watch people. We'd be like, yo, just watch how somebody treats people because eventually it's going to be your turn. You're not an exception to the rule. Yep. That I get. Maybe those guys like Kirk and Littlerod thought they were exception to the rules. No. No. So your point is like, where were you when this was happening to Cassie? Yeah. You had all this access to his lifestyle. You didn't speak out about what's happened to other people. Maybe that's why Farnsworth is not talking because he knows. Right. And again, I don't know. I don't know. But it makes you look like a hero now to be. you like, oh, you know, he didn't pay for Biggie's funeral.

But you knew that back then. Now, what I would say is better to talk, better to talk. Like, better to talk at some point in time. People were terrified of him, man. Yeah, man. Yeah, now they feel the confidence. I pitched a project like this even 10 years ago, let's say. To somebody powerful in the industry, very powerful, well-connected person.

He said, it was as a podcast. But he said, that's the best podcast I've ever heard of in my life. would be incredible. That would set the charts on fire. I am not going to be the one picking up the phone Monday morning when diddy calls. And no one else is either. No one is touching this thing. People were scared of him because he had a lot of power. And you can see, he goes for vengeance. He goes to restribution. So it's all your fault. No, I tried to make it. But I'm saying, I couldn't get anybody to back me up. So it's all these people's fault. This is the monster that they created and kept defeating. Yes.

You can't put it on them. How? If you notice, I'm doing all the action. But if you know, yes, but if you know this stuff is happening and nobody says anything, how will it ever stop? Yeah, but if you're afraid of what's going to happen if you speak up? Like, what if you're the only one who speaks up and you know the power that Diddy has? Like, he's still complicit. Yeah, but he's blew up, kid cut his car allegedly.

Like, if he goes to those lengths of things and it's like, why would you put your life in the game? So you're proving my point. You're choosing your own state. and your own security over everybody else's. So don't try to come out and act like you're doing it for the people in that. All right, maybe you're not. So many people have been hurt. How about this? How about this?

Easier to do it now that he's. But if nobody comes out, then he gets away with it. So it's like ultimate, it coming out doesn't make you a hero. But it does make you better than staying silent. So we have to reward. 30 years later. Yo, it's better than staying silent. Because this guy would have had a comeback.

He would have. He would have had a comeback if this didn't come out. He would have reached. He invented himself as a preacher, Maga, what have him. Diddy would have been back. He's that relentless and he needs it that bad. Like the greatest punishment

that you could ever give Diddy is not allow him to ever be Diddy again. And then he got to live with himself. I think he wouldn't have been Diddy again before this, Doc. I think the doctors put the Dildo through the heart. There were people that feed. That's funny.

That's funny. No, I'm saying I really believe. I think he was done before this. No. There were people who looked at the case and they're like, oh, shit, he got off. But there's still people like that. There's people like there right now still defending did he even with his duck and think that is just a whole bunch of propaganda.

It's going to be much less after this dog, much less. All I'm saying is, listen, I'm glad things have come to an end, I hope. But I'm not giving, you know, these guys too much. Here's a question. Here's a question I have for all you guys. Look, because Little Rob will still be there right now if he'd have got his money. No, no, no. I'm not saying these guys are heroes.

They're not heroes. But doing this thing is the right thing to do, even if it's 30 years later. It doesn't make you a good person, but it makes you better than staying silent and allowing all these people to be victimized in perpetuity. And I'm not saying you should still stay. When I said in perpetuity. There's a lot of people that probably wouldn't have gotten victimized if you just spoke up 10 years. That's why I'm saying. 20 years.

That's all I'm saying. Both those things can be true. Both those things can be true. Did he could have went out of after them took him out and he would have kept on as known. Like that's a thing. Like it's a huge risk. And I understand what you're saying. Hey, take that risk to protect others. But that's putting your life up. Because Chris, you know, everybody's built like that. When he attacked Steve Stout, Steve Stout was saying this guy is a terrible person. Everybody's scared of him because of all

of the stuff he does behind him. He was saying this. So that's an alley-up. Like, you know what? Then he settled. And then he settled and then he's shaking hands and laughing with it. But I still threw it out there. Somebody else should have came with like, yo, you know what? He's right. Did he? You're saying what people should do, but people are motivated by their own salvation. And if they don't see their salvation through that, then they oftentimes won't do it.

And that's just the reality of the matter. It's better that they do it 30 years in than never do it at all. But the heroic thing is to do it in the moment. I would think so. Because then you stop other people from being. Let's talk to some of the people. Again, I'm only an episode in, but like, are there any people in the dock that came out of Immediately.

Yeah. Well, the guy Kirk filed a lawsuit. That was to get his money back. Aubrey did. Aubrey did back. She did. Aubrey has been doing it. She told a story that ain't nobody talking about.

What's that? Somebody came to her and said, I saw a video where Puff was fucking you and some other dude that is dick in your mouth. And Aubrey's like, I don't remember none of this shit. You know what I'm saying? I don't fucking know. I don't know.

All I know is this is a great documentary that just lets you know, man, do not compromise yourself for a business. That's how I feel. I mean, that's how I feel about the ride on the ditty side, there's no way power and ego should drive you in that way.

But you know what's interesting, though, about... You had everything. You had the opportunity to treat people were great. You could have given more jobs. You could provide jobs. You could provide, make people dreams coming true. You make all this money.

You had everything. You had everything. And you just wanted to fuck it all. by fucking people over? But you know what's interesting is it like his desire for power, right? Made him gravitate towards a role in the industry that's different than most people.

Remember, he came in going, I'm going to be a dancer, I'm going to be in the videos, and he learned pretty quickly that the real power is in the executive branch, not in the artist. Most people don't discern that.

Most people see the artist getting all the love on the street. and everybody's singing the songs, whatever. He also recognized throwing the parties is where the culture and the power was. That's because he was around Andre. Andre was the original lifestyle specialist with Uptown Records. Interesting.

He was the original executive. I even found that fascinating where it's like he's being like, not groomed, but like mentored by Andre. And then he's right there in front of him being like, oh yeah, you're going to pass it down to me. Like, I'm going to take this over from you. Like imagine speaking to your guy, like you're still young in the game.

and you're talking to your elders. I'm about to take this over from you. That shit is crazy. There's two ways to look at that. Clearly, Andre being the visionary that he was and the eye for talent that he was. Saw talent and him. Saw talent and Diddy.

Because he wouldn't just have his arm around somebody that he didn't think could be that. So you are kind of grooming that individual to be your successor. So I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I think you should play your position of your Diddy and not tell him what you want. Yeah, no.

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next year. Like, next year is not in a few weeks. My God. My God. But yeah, what else we got? What do you think about the merger, man? What do you think about the Netflix Warner Bros. Merger? But now Paramount just jumped in and dropped what, what they say, 100-something billion, all cash? snatched away from Netflix. You know Trump gonna let his boy get it. Well, are they both his boys? I don't know. It don't seem like he's got a relationship with

Sir Randolph? Yeah, Sarandos or Netflix? My understanding was Sarandos who was like talking to him specifically about it. You got to. You got no choice. This is the tricky thing about this, right? Because like if this goes through with Netflix,

it's probably, I mean, theater's already dead. Theatrical releases are already. dead in my opinion but uh you know like the only way those win is if you have massive existing IP that people have like nostalgic connections to i.e like top gun um dune uh the Minecraft movie yeah you know like these things that like people who had a culture of going to movies their entire life like we did will go okay i want to see this in this place that i'm used to going i don't think the younger generation is really going to see movies anymore yeah there's a few

like horror movies that will work, but like the days of making a $300 million movie and then like the whole world going to the movie theater or debt. But this is the nail in the coffin. Give me a reason to go to the movies. I'll go to the movie. Give me an event or give me something I need to go see. I'm going. Why? For all the reasons, the shows just said, the nostalgia of it all. There's nothing better for my mental and emotional well-being and walking into a movie theater, ordering a large tub of popcorn, some peanut M&Ms, and a bottle of water and going to sit in the movies. I realize I don't even got to watch the movie. You know what made me feel like that, being a father.

Because I don't care about Wicked and all of those stuff that they go see, but I just like sitting in the theater. I'm talking about it's like being on the plane. You talk about a good sleep. Take me to see a good kid's movie. Yeah, right? Take me to see anything that's targeting children.

My kids will be in there having a good time. Daddy is out, okay? Out. Yeah. So give me the movie going to experience. Now, I am going back, they're putting out of In-game with a new post-credit scene

because Avengers Endgame is supposed to be a direct sequel to the new Doomsday. Oh, really? I'm going to see that. Wait, wait, what do you mean they're putting out Avengers Endgame? They're putting Avengers Endgame

back in theaters. I think like a week before they, a week or two before Doomsday and it's got a post-credit because In-Game didn't have a post-credit scene. Yeah. So it's going to have a post-credit scene that leads in the Doomsday.

I got to see it. I got to see it. I got to see it. Then you got to see Infinity War too. They got to put both. I love... I don't want to... You can't...

Man, it's so good. It's so good, bro. It is so good. There's only one corny moment in the endgame, bro. When all the girls come out. When all the girls, right? It has nothing to do with sexism. It just has to do with Marvel didn't develop none of their women characters well enough.

But also, why would the girls come out together? Like, once you all got superpowers, you're no longer a girl. Captain Marvel didn't even need all of them. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know what I'm going to ran through that whole shit by herself. They're like, yeah, we got her back.

Like, you know, you know, I don't even have no powers. Like, sitting out. You know what I'm saying? You got a gun. You know what I mean? Like, cut it out. But yes, I will be there.

But, yo, give me an experience and I'm going to watch. I like the movie going experience. I don't think that we should give up on that. I don't think you're only going to, Hollywood is only going to get the investment from these things that they put into it. Right. So if they just, you know, succumb to all of the screaming platforms, then that's what it is. But if you give me reasons to go to the movies, I'm there.

there's just fewer reasons these days, man. I think we just need to accept that. Like, the biggest issue I think is it's more enjoyable to watch a movie at the crib than it is in the movie theater. Is it though? I think, like, unless you see an avatar, if I'm just seeing a random rom-com, do I really need to go to the movie theater and do that? Sit at some seat that got bedbugs.

Or should I just sit in my sofa and watch it and pause it when I want to pause it, look at my phone, if I want to look at my phone, eat whatever snacks that I want to eat? Yeah, but did you go to the movies to watch rom-coms when you were younger? Yeah. Hell yeah. We watch every single Adam Sandler movie in the movie theaters. Sweet Home Alabama. We watched all these movies we watch.

The Wood is not a movie. Every movie I ever saw, I saw it in the theaters first. For the most part. Hell fucking, yes. But Netflix says they're not going to stop releasing movies. They just said they're going to close the window. So they're going to be short of theatrical windows. The problem with the movies right now is that theatrical window is so short and the gap

between theater and streaming is so short. There's no urgency to go see the movie. in the theaters. Like, I know it's going to be on HBO Max, or I know it's going to be on Netflix, or I know it's going to be on Paramount in a week or two anyway. Fuck it.

I won't go and sit in a shitty seat where I'm looking up from the front row. Oh, no, I hate that. I see, I'm a real movie goal. I'm one of my tickets online, preferably fandangle, and I'm all the way in the back, right? Because I want the best view,

and I got to see what a fucking shooter is. Just in case somebody decides they want a motherfucker get sporty in this, I'm like all the way to back. I like being all the way to back, top back row. But that is, but that's the game right now. It's like back in the day, you were willing to sit front row if it was the new release that you needed to.

Nah, I would. What madman does that? Y'all are renting it out, though. What's that? The movie. Huh? What are you talking about? Like, Wicked was you could rent it on.

What kind of money you think we get in? Yeah, Taylor, that's not good career. Yeah, okay. I was making sure you all just. She said, you broke. Do you guys feel. No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying like when the movie comes out like Wicked,

it was also on streaming platforms too. Y'all was? It was? Yeah. At least that's what I saw. I saw you could rent it. No, not the new one. Yeah, not the new one. The old one, not the new one,

you had to go see in theaters. Do you guys feel the same way about all live events or just, I mean, not that a movie is a live event. Let's say in-person events. It depends. I'm not going to front. I have not adjusted really after COVID, though. I'm not going to lie.

No, I still have not adjusted. And I'm a cancer, so I never really like being around people that I don't really fuck with anyway. But after COVID, I really never truly adjusted to being back out around. Interesting. Like, no, I don't like people. And I get exhausted quick, fast in a hurry. Yeah, to Erica Badoo? No.

Really? And I wanted to. I went Saturday. I heard the show was phenomenal. It was phenomenal, but there was also a minute where I was like, I just want to sit down. Everybody's standing up. You know, she had a scream available. You could have bought a scream and watched it.

I'm glad I did it, but I was kind of like, I'm tired. Listen, I love Erica. Erica, by doing Jill Scott of my wife's favorite artist, but we had some family coming into town this weekend because my wife had something to do, so we ended up not being able to go last minute. But I was kind of happy. That's what I mean.

You know what I'm saying? I had been outside a little bit too much the past week. I did John Hope Bryant's event. We did the New York Times thing. Then I was in Charleston and my girl Chris Kaleigh thing. I did a little bit too much people in. Yeah, you need a little, you need a little, You need a little rest.

You need a little break. Yeah. I was supposed to do something this weekend. I'm like... What did you say? No. Really? I got supposed to do something this weekend and next weekend.

I was like, I'll tell you after what it was after, but I'm like, eh. I don't want to do it. Not worth it. Other people probably will jump at the opportunity. Like that? I'm probably sure. You know, but for me, it's like, eh. Yeah, it's a lot.

I'm cool. So to answer your question, Chris, it just depends what the event is. I feel like people still excited for a music concert, but everything else is kind of dying down. I think it's a little different. I think even music, man. I think what happened is that people were locked in during COVID. They got really excited to go out. They went out to see everything.

And they really celebrated being connected. And they also developed these deep connections to not only music, comedy, all these other things. And they were restricted from being able to access them. And then finally, when they were able to ask them, they got out there. And a lot of people put, you know, these events on, credit cards and, you know, the chickens are coming home to roost with that credit card debt. People are feeling stretched in. I've been money on experiences.

So, for Alex's point, yes, my daughter likes concerts. So she asked me if you want to go to concerts. Cool. That mean, Daddy got to get a sweet thing. Yeah. That's just the way it is. And I'm fine with that because then I can invite everybody, yo. You don't like jam pop.

That's right. You're not doing jam pop. That many, Taylor, no? Like, I'll get a suite and everybody coming through. You know what I mean? All of us coming through. Watch the show, we go home. That's the type of stuff I'll spend money on.

To me, that's what money is for. Money is to provide experiences for yourself and provide experiences for others to where you have a sense of a... I don't even want to call it security. Just comfortable. I want to be comfortable. I agree with you.

I want to be comfortable. I think musicians are doing a better job at making their show seem exciting to come to than movie studios are doing for movies. It's like, and be a young boy, his concerts are going crazy. Drake still is selling crazy overseas and every place. People are still excited to go to music.

Alex brings up a good point because there's no virality with a movie. Yep. Because you can't screenshot it. You can't take a picture. It's very hard to create the fomo. I was telling some people at Netflix this actually, I said, guys, you have this thing where like so people don't scream record when you take a screenshot of your of your uh of whatever show is on you you actually are limiting the amount

of like memes and viral culture around your content let people screen record and put it out because that's what creates the fomo the fomo is not we have this antiquated view look on like how to sell movies we used to do this we used to go you get to be with tom cruise you get to be with the rock you get to be with fucking julio roberts now celebrities are so overexposed. They all got a podcast. They all got Instagram. They all got everything. So just selling two hours with them is not valuable to us. You got to sell us the plot. What's the plot of the movie? Who cares who's in it? But then I don't want you to give it away from me on social media either. Don't give the whole thing away, but give me enough of the plot. I got back into Stranger Things.

I haven't watched Stranger Things in like four seasons. And there was so much the whole fucking show. No, it's like six, same. I've never watched Strange and Things. And it's six seasons? I think this is the fifth one. Okay. I haven't watched it since like the first or second season, but there was so many TikToks made about the show itself and like the callbacks and all these other things.

I started to get some phone. I was like, ooh, let me get into another show. That you have to now, unfortunately, you've got to give away a little bit of the show itself or the movie for us to be enticed to go see it. I feel like that about the Penny Wise show. Oh, the Welcome to Derry? Yeah, I want to see Welcome to Derry.

Just because I'm seeing so many people talking about it. You got to see episode four. I don't even know if that shit is real or not, meaning I don't know if that's like bots. If HBO's putting that shit out there. Because it's making me want to watch this shit, right? I've never watched this shit ever in my life. Game of Thrones, we knew it was people. But I'm not on Twitter like that.

Exactly. So when you were on Twitter, you see all these people talking about a particular show. I don't know if that still works now. I think when you see it on TikTok and it's not tweets, you actually see individuals watching it, individuals reacting to it. It could be AI. But like, to me, that motivates me. because I'm like, oh, people are excited about this shit.

You know, it's, I'm really curious to see how Marty Supreme does because they've done a really great job of building around Timothy Shalame and he's done so much great promo work for the movie. He understands. What the fuck is that about? That's my concern. My concern is, are they selling the plot enough to get me to go invest time in the movie? I love Timmy Shalamee.

I want to see what he's up to. I love seeing him at the Knicks games. I love seeing him how he's doing his marketing thing. But at the end of the day, to get me to commit two hours to the movie, I need to be interested in this movie. And it's about a guy who wants to be a ping pong champion. And I'm like, I need a little bit more than that. You know what I mean?

But tell me how they've done the best marketing job ever on this. The whole time, I thought you would try to set us up for a joke. I was like, is this a real movie? Nah, that's a movie about no ping pong. Well, that's the problem. you got to make people want to see it. First of all, who gives a fuck about ping pong? You care that it's one of the Safdi brothers?

I like both of the safeties. I think they do great work. And to me, that's enticing. But you could look at the Paul Thomas Anderson movie with Leo that's going to lose $200 million and be like a lot. Because to me, that was the death of movies. No, but that was the moment in history. I saw a clip that.

You said that on the New York Times thing. I didn't know what, but I saw it on. I went to go look it up. It didn't lose $100 million. No, lost more. No, it didn't. Yeah. The budget was like 175.

150. And it made over 200 globally. So the budget is 150, right? So it had to break even. I think they said they had to, no, no, yeah. I think it was 140, 150 was the budget. The marketing budget was like another 50 or 75. No, more.

Look it up. You can look it up. And it said that it made over $200 million globally. Okay. So when you make, let's say you made $150 million, in the U.S., right? Does the movie studio get 100% of the ticket sales at the movie theaters? Oh, I don't know.

They get 50%. So if you make $150 million in America, you get $75 million of that to you, right? So when a movie does $200 million, obviously the studio don't get $200 million. They get half of that. When you put your movie in China, you get 25% of what it does in China. So, yes, what they do is they pre-sell. They pre-sell distribution rights to different markets so that they have a little cushion, right? They'll be like, here, we got 30 million from Italy, and they're just going to distribute here in Italy.

We got 10 million from the UK. They're going to do it there. And that's how you offset some of the cost. But that movie will lose a significant amount of money. Yeah, he hasn't broke. They're not, I don't think they're going to break even. But you didn't lose 200 is what I'm saying. No, because you also have to understand usually, and this could be different, but usually with an antiquated marketing system that they have for movies,

whatever they spend on the movie, they spend in marketing. So if you spend 150 on the movie, you're spending 150 in marketing. So now you're 300 in the hole. In order to make a 300 back, you've got to make 600 in America. Right? Is that much? Yeah, because you only get in 50%. Oh, I didn't know that.

Now, granted, they're going to sell streaming rights. They're going to sell it to Delta. Oh, it's out now. It's on screaming now. That's what I watch it. It's already streaming. Yeah, it's already streaming. What?

Why would we even go see it? Okay, they said the film's production budget was reported at $130 million. Box office grosser so far, 70 million domestic. So 35 million at home. 132 million international for a worldwide total around 203, 204 million industry reporting and trade

analysis estimated the film needs somewhere between 300 and 350 worldwide to break even once you account for production marketing and the fact that studios don't keep 100% of box office revenue. Some sources suggest that theatrical loss of roughly 100 million

under current box office tally typical cost structure. Up, up, more than that. Even with a strong global growth. Maybe they're just counting for other things to make money. Probably, probably. But to lose $100.

It doesn't matter. You can't lose $100 million on Leo. It hasn't broke even. With Paul Thomas Anderson, you can't do it. To me, that was the death of non-existing IP cinema. That's the death. Now, if this was a movie star Leonardo DiCaprio and it was the new Batman movie, or if it was the new Spider-Man movie, that's going to make money.

It's baked into our... Those are good examples, too, though, because some of those have lost a lot of money. When you think about the Captain Marvels of the world? All the new Marvel that we don't get to... give a fuck about isn't going to work. It's got to be characters we care about. Do you think potentially you're just like prisoner of the moment? Because I feel like this always happens and then all of a sudden everything everywhere all that once pops up and then they're like, oh, movies are back. I would say that that's the exception to the rule. And I would say that that budget was so small

that it could be profitable. The problem with movies right now is that there costs so much to make that there's no way you can make that money back without a huge theatrical relief. Yeah, man. If you can get movies down to like $20 to $40 million budgets, you can make money. But at that point, $20 to $40 million, just put it out on streaming because the streamers would love to spend only $20 or $40 million. They'll give you that. It says on a global scale, the film industry is recovering. They said they projected to reach $34 billion this year in 2025. It's over, dogs.

It's over. But, you know, over the phone. You don't worry when he makes a plane. It's over, my dude. happens. So movies are about to have the best resurgence ever. I don't think, I don't, I don't, I don't know. We'll see. I know one business that ain't over like a lot of you people are saying podcasting, God damn it. Well, you know what the thing with podcasting is, is that like podcasting isn't over. Podcasting is just the new way to say show.

There's nothing that isn't a podcast and there's nothing that is. ESPN's entire fucking TV lineup is also available as a podcast. As it should be. Digital show. It just means show now. Well, from the audio standpoint, 600 million listeners, right? Approaching 600 million listeners, just audio.

Well, as a matter of fact, why am I repeating this? Like, I don't have the actual goddamn data right in front of me. Oh, I'm surprised. What are you surprised about? Streamers haven't yet put their stream out as podcast. That's crazy to me. I haven't.

I was telling an academic, When academics were with Spotify, I was telling him to do that. I'm like, all of those daily rants that you're doing on, just put them out on your RSS. I've been told them that. Okay, podcast listening is growing rapidly. More than 584 million people who listen to podcasts in 2025, with numbers expected to reach 619 million by 2020. Engagement is high. 34% of Americans listen to an average of 8.3 podcast episodes per week, and 83% spend more than nine hours listening weekly.

Video is redefining the podcast landscape. More than half of shows are now posting full. video on YouTube. Podcasting is a booming industry. The market is projected to be worth $17.5, $59 billion by 2030. Riverside makes podcasting easier. It offers studio quality recording, AI, powered editing, and seamless content repurposing to help create a standout. Yeah, I don't think podcasting goes anywhere because I think it just is the new way to say show. Absolutely. Just as shows don't go anywhere. What I think has now happened is we had this great moment, right, where traditional shows, i.e. Sports Center, The View, any of these shows that you're now available in versions of a podcast.

They had these cable contracts. So they couldn't put their stuff online because the cable companies are saying to ESPN, yo, I'm paying you $15 a month for protection. You can't put this content out for free if I'm paying you $15 a month. So they had to honor those contracts for a few years. What were we able to do in that moment? We were able to start these podcasts in this space that had no interruption whatsoever from legacy media that dumps tens and hundreds of millions of content and we were able to have a lick in that regard early early we're the grandfather we really are the godfather chris moro and out sir yeah really idiots might literally be the first uh podcast that was put on youtube literally really no no oh we were about rogan was on you no no but we were on you know but we were

audio only but on YouTube before anybody oh wow we just put the audio on YouTube because I basically was like well all these remember there was a time when breakfast club wouldn't put the video on yeah they refused it would be on the dot com yeah right and then people were creating like essentially Charlemagne pages where they were ripping it and repurposing it was like well shit if this audience is here let's just put the fucking audio up yeah yep and then from that we graduated to the video but I mean you know that was 15 years years ago almost at this point. Yeah.

All that shit is AI anyway, bro. Any old audio you hear of me, I, Andrew. Yeah, it's just AI. Somebody's got to do something about it. Yeah, somebody got to do something about it, man. Like, that shit was crazy, yo. But it is an interesting moment now that, like, so the space that you could argue,

there's way more people in it, way more money in it. It's not, it is thriving in the sense that that's what people listen and watch. It's thriving if you're doing something different. Yes. But like everybody, everybody has a podcast. Right. And what also happens, which I think will go away pretty quickly, we already noticed that, is like the celeb podcast lick.

So every agent that has an actor or has a something else was like, yo, you want to start a podcast? I'll get this deal from you from this, you know, new fledgling podcast company. And they're going to cut you a big check. They do it for a year. Nobody listens. The company doesn't make their money back. They cut them.

So I think all those are getting cut loose. And I think what will happen now is like, they've been cut loose. If people actually can curate an audience of people who fuck with you and listen to you, you'll stick around, you'll exist, you'll thrive. But the people who are just kind of like, I should do this because it's like a website. You know, like I'm a comedian so I should have a podcast. I'm not this, so I should have a podcast. That shit going away to.

And you still have to treat the podcasting business like the podcasting business. mean that audio be your foundation. That's interesting. Start with audio, then put the video on top of that. I think a lot of people are doing it backwards. Therefore, you're not starting a podcast. You're doing a show. You're starting a video show.

I have different thoughts about that. But I think that... I mean, I agree. A podcast is what you call a podcast at this stage of the game, right? But when you're talking about monetizing it, yeah, the more video becomes prominent. And it's already... The war is essentially almost over. The CPMs just keep going downhill because...

you know, you want to charge, let's say, 25 was the gold standard for a audio mid-rope. Well, what's a video CPU? I don't even know. Two? I mean... You're saying, like, what YouTube pays. Right. So, yeah. And if I ever... I think the next step for the space is, can you find a standardized metrics model, right? Because everybody... But everything across the board? Because everybody's, well, I got this on this, and I got this on this, and I got this on this. And when you really want to unlock the biggest dollars, which are traditionally gone to, let's say, cable or more, you know, traditional places, they have a standardized

metrics. Right. We don't have a standard. Well, they used to have the Nielsen ratings or whatever, right? And now they have just digital ratings or whatever it is. It's kind of hard to have a standardized metric, though, because you got somebody like Mel Robbins, whose audio is through the roof. Right.

But her video may not be. And you have the rare exceptions, like a Rogan. And what do you do with the real? Most of the podcasts, like all the NBA podcasts I consume? I listen to the reels. Yeah, it's like they might not get huge views, but the reels might go super viral. But then if the sponsor's not attached to that,

so then what you would want to do, at least what I would imagine, like, is you would have an overall sponsor for the pot. Right. It's not. And then they're baked into whatever the reel is. It's brought to you by Bud Light or whatever it is. And then when you clip that pod to the moon,

every one of those little clips has sponsorship already. That's what I feel like never. I'm totally impression. Right. Exactly. That's what I feel like Netflix should be doing. Like instead of you know, trying to fight against the virality. Indulging it. Just branded on everything. You know, you put out these real these shorts. I want the Netflix logo in it. For everybody that's going over there. That's the only way to work. Yeah, but they only make money by subscriptions. And if you make it easier to pirate their

content, then why would anybody see if it's not? Because it's still just the shorts. It's just like YouTube. It's like saying, we can be on social media right now looking at clips or something. Right, right now we did the New York Times thing. People are seeing clips going around. They're like, where can I watch this whole thing? That's what makes them go to YouTube. Yeah, but the reason why you can't take a screenshot is so you can't screen record the whole movie. Oh, but I'm talking about, no, no, when I'm talking about, let me take a step back.

When I'm talking about Netflix, I'm talking about the content that they're getting into now by saying they want to take podcasts from Spotify and put them over there. So I'm talking about those, the Bill Simmons, the ringers and everybody of the world, people are already used to seeing clips of that and then going to find. the whole episode. Netflix should let that rock, let those clips and everything still exist, let the virality exist, and let people come back to Netflix to find it. So brand-no short clips with the Netflix thing.

I'm not talking about the TV shows and the movies. I'm glad you bought that up because if I'm a Netflix executive and I'm bringing in this new content, I'm saying we want to get in the business of podcasting, we can't look at just the way we look at our movies. Can't do it. You can't.

By the way, the model for how it works already exists. So if we're going to be in this business a complete, I don't know exactly what. we stopped, but we had to cut off because we had some Wi-Fi issues. But the moral of the story is, podcasting is all of new media now, all right?

It's shows, it's all of that. It's not going anywhere. And actually, when we haven't talked about these conversations about movies and all that other shit, this is the IP. All of the stuff that, the audio scripted stuff and everything, this is the IP. We're creating that IP right now.

You'll see when y'all see brilliant idiot short film. Ooh, short. Brilliant idiot short film. What about just film film film? Why short? Oh, we're doing a film film film, too, But we got a great short film too, though. Yeah, but we're going to have film, short film, long film, all the films.

No, no, no, no, we definitely doing live action, live action. We got to do live action, too. We got some shit coming. 50 cent, live action. We got some shit coming. 50 cent, brilliant idiots. All right, let's do some asking idiots, mate. What we got, Taylor gang, Taylor gang's in the house.

Taylor gang's in the house. Big mama, Taylor. Big mama. Okay. Big girl. She really somebody's mom. I can't believe it. We have a-

They thought you was going to be out here holding the baby all crazy, Taylor, like how Christiana Rock was holding her. Oh, Jesus. Why? I don't know why they'll be trying to play you. How do you hold the baby? What do you mean how I hold him?

Taylor, we're trying to make him walk. He's only three months. I don't be trying to make him walk. That's fucking Pat. He can try to make him walk. At three months? He's four. But he didn't want to stand up.

He don't be wanting to, like, crawl. He wants to stand up. That's what's up. I like that. I like that. Evolution, you never know. Evolution might have had these babies. He was already turning over after two weeks when he was born.

I have video proof. Really? Really. Damn. All right, Art underscore by underscore Oscar said if you could be any Batman villain, who would it be in why? Smells like my side. The farder. Any Batman villain, who would it be in why?

I mean, historically for me, it's always been the Joker, but I'm not going to front, man. Yo, the way Colin Farrell played Penguin. Oh, yeah. Fire. It's so good. Fire. The riddler is fire. Scarecrow is fire.

I mean, Batman got some dope-ass village. That's why I always wanted them to make an Arkham Asylum TV show. Like, especially after seeing Penguin and all that, like, an Arkham Asylum TV show that's, like, real dark on some Oz type shit. You know what I mean? That would have been fire. Two-face. He was good. Two-face was fire.

Starting good, going bad. That was fine. Two Fades was fire. I think I'm going to still go with the Joker, though, man. You can't be the Joker. Yeah. Joker is great because he just wants to antagonize Batman. Like, that's his win. He don't even want money.

He just wants to be a thorn in Batman's side. You are. You are the Joker, man. You are the Joker, bro. And Batman is Drake. You live to drive him crazy. I'm not going to front, man. I've been thinking about that, Joe.

I was thinking about, like, Like, you know, 50 cent really makes me feel like I'm not doing enough to the people who got me fuck. Yo. Yo. You know what I'm saying? I agree a thousand percent. He's, he is, he is inspiring me. Me too.

I'm letting motherfuckers off too easy. I know it's like, yo, they say, oh, let success be the best revenge. No. Let God fight your battles. You could do two things at one time. Man. You could be successful. and destroy your opponent.

You know what I'm saying. You have a successful documentary about your opponent. Yo. There you go. That's success. You feel between him and Diddy, though? Why is he doing those two?

Did he try to take him shopping? And then don't know, like, I don't really like... Stop trying to buy me clothes, man. That's weird. Don't fucking take me shopping, dude. And then you ever see, like, sometimes you'd be hearing certain shit and you want to mix it up, but you're like, it's kind of, eh.

And you know what I mean? Like, it ain't really no formidable opponents that make me just want to jump out the window. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I hear you. You know?

I hear you. Every now and then, like, you might tap a jaw here, but it's not like, ugh. But I got some, but there's some people out there, there's some people out there that they think it's over. That's the, that's the other thing. It's like, there's people that don't realize that there's a longer game being played there. Way longer.

Don't worry. Listen, I'm confirming my Illuminaity membership this year. Out of time. 40 years. No, no, for 40 years over, I'm confirming my Illuminati. I love that. I love that. And then, you know, y'all going to have to look over your back for a long time.

Mm-hmm. Okay? Mm-hmm. About time. Yeah. Would you rather taste food? Oh, Tommy underscore Threat says, Would you rather taste food but can't feel sex or feel sex but can't taste food?

Taste food. Tommy, you sound like somebody who ain't eating all getting no pussy to be completely. You're trying to make a choice. You would rather can't feel sex? Yeah, because you eat three times a day. you know you have sex you know I mean this ain't a hard question for most women right I'm choosing food I love food that's what I'm saying like most of these guys think they making the girl feel something she faking the moment sex is great too but it's just like you said

in the moment like how many times a week you're having sex it's like right once a week a bad week you're having sex like four or five times? You said a bad wheat? I'm just joking. I know one thing, Tommy, we'd make all that shit better. We'd make the sex better and the goddamn food. You hear me?

But that's not the hypothetical. That was a great night for me. Get high, eat some good food, and have sex. All right, what's the next one? Kenny Kelso, who is someone in the entertainment business that would be considered a brilliant idiot? All of them. No, no, don't give them that credit.

Don't give them that credit. Don't give them that credit. Don't give them that credit. Yeah, and there's something that's just brilliant, but like brilliant idiot is a specific thing. You got to own it, though. That's the problem. Yeah. Yeah.

You got to be a brilliant idiot. You know who's a brilliant idiot? Vince Staples. Vince got good, brilliant idiot. You know who else? He does. He does. He does. He right. I don't know his first, sir, and I've only met him once, but I think he's got the vibes. Is Woody Harrelson.

Never met him. I can see that. But I can see the vibes on it. I can see that. Vince for sure. Yeah. Who else? The rest of the dead, Quincy Jones. Tyler.

Tyler, definitely. Tyler. Tyler, Tyler, Tyler. Tyler. Tyler. But see, I mean, I think 50's a brilliant idiot. Oh, for sure. I don't think anybody, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think people play

dumber than 50s. For sure. But we really are dumb. Yo, 50 said the coldest shit I ever see. I'm going to butcher what he says. Probably online somewhere. But apparently this could all be. fake, but, like, did he send some flowers to his...

No, that's real. So did he sent the rest-and-piece flowers? I don't believe it was rest-in-piece, but... The idea is it's like the bouquet of roses you put on a casket or whatever. And I think Diddy said... Sorry, I think 50 said something like, I don't believe in foreplay. Yeah, I don't believe in foreplay. Let's get to it.

Let's get to it. And then you put, I'm a 90s grimy ninja. Don't warn me. Don't warn me. That's the most fire shit. That's crazy. These guys are crazy. Yo, that is fucking incredible.

Yeah. I know what it is. I need richer enemies. Yeah. You know what I mean? It ain't scary no more. You miss it, huh? It used to be scary.

Now you, yeah, now you want a little something, yeah. They used to be scary. It ain't scary out here no more. Yeah. You don't want that. Exactly. You don't want that. You know, like, anxiety all over everything.

No, but he's comfortable in chaos. Yes. Chaos is where he's mostly. comfortable. The anxiety comes from things going well. He's not used to that. That's right. Anybody that knows me and works when me knows that. Like when I start acting crazy. Things are too good.

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I know that. I know that very well. Some shit the fuck up. Oscar be savage on him. Where does mental health starting in? It starts when you acknowledge it and it never ends. It's just like physical health. Like you don't ever really start. You don't stop going to the gym. You know what I mean? And oh and oh, this is a double one. Whammy. Oscar B Savage on him also asked,

how do we measure the success without a dollar sign? Come on, Oscar. Are you happy? That's how you medicine. Does your family want to hang out with you? Yes. Do your friends want to spend time with you? Yes. I don't care how much money you got. There's plenty of

people I know with mad money who I would not consider successful because they're not happy. Will your grandkids be excited when you come over? That's a cold one, but a lot of motherfuckers out there It's annoying when grandpa and grandma come over That's true

That is true What else we got to? Let's do a couple more I don't feel like I feel like we answered that before Best Christmas gift you ever received Shotsie Oh man I mean I just remember like

I remember I got a moon watch once They, like, kept the title time. And this was when I was, like, young and surfing. And my mom, like, did a little switcheroo on me. She told me that they, she wasn't able to get it. And then I opened it the next morning. And, like, yeah, it was, I don't know, for some reason. I just really remember that.

I was like, oh, it's the coolest thing ever. I grew up, Joe, a Witness. So what was the best one? You didn't smell the Jerry curl that year? I never got, I never got Christmas gifts. You don't celebrate Christmas? Well, now, though, you do Christmas now. Yeah, but the best gift that I get now is, you know,

being in a position to provide for other people, you know what I'm saying? And I'm telling you, man, there's nothing like waking up Christmas. Yeah, boom. That's not the question. But that's the best gift. The best gift is the gift that God gave me to be able to wake. Okay, so what's the second best gift? I subscribe to, uh, never mind.

You know, say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. You ready to believe it? No, that's not fair. You ready to believe it? I'll finish it. I'll finish it if we believe it. I think you know what I want to say. We've been doing it too long. We've been doing it too long. You understand? We've been doing it too long to know exactly it's a wavelength you got to get on. Yeah, exactly.

It's Dwayne Wade and LeBron. You never know when it's going to hit you. Oh. Yo, just bleep what I say, but keep everything else. Comments. Figure it out. I guarantee there's like 20% of brilliant. They know exactly what the fuck we just said.

Fill in the blank comments. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. if you listen to this podcast and think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit you're right too it's the brilliant of this podcast thank you for listening