The Brilliant Idiots - Blues Brothers

Episode Date: October 4, 2025

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Man, I genuinely missed you, bro. I missed you, too. Like dead ass. I saw you and I was happy. Like, oh, shit, Shosi. I did. I did, man. I was like, oh, my boy is back.

My guy is fucking back, man. No, it's great to see you, man. How did it feel to be away for too much? It was cool, man. Like, hanging with the family every single day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Never travel. What you mean?

I don't get to, you know, I'm traveling every other week. Oh, yeah, got you, got you, got you, got you. You know, like every morning waking up, like reading my daughter books to sleep every night on Amazing. Yeah, it was fire. So listen. Yeah. When did you all shoot?

I missed you, bro. I mean, I genuinely missed you, man. And a lot fucking happened. I know. What the fuck. I wanted to call in. It was so much going on. So much happened.

You know. But listen, did you... That game interview was viral over there. Really? I mean, come on. It's the internet. That's everywhere. Yeah, but like Australia is just so removed from everything.

Really? Yeah. It's just like... I never been. They tap in. Like, they're great. It was awesome. But, like, they're removed.

Yeah, yeah. You're on an island in the middle of the ocean. Yeah. And just surrounded by Asian. A lot of Iggy's over there? Yeah. What? Is there a lot of Iggy's over there?

Or it's like a... No, she's not an anomaly. Like, they're in shape. They're in shape. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're in shape. So Dr. Umar would like maybe do a little... Yo. A little second take a few more.

I think he might have to. I think... Black queens forever, snow bunnies never. I said black queens forever, snow bunnies never. And technically they're Asian. They're not white. So he might be over... slide through, yeah. So Iggy is Asian? Well, I think where is Australia? It's in Asia. Yeah,

they're Asian. That could be, yo, Iggy's your rebrand. Come out as Rice Spice and Freak. You know what I'm saying? I'm serious. She could have rebrand and come back. Kinky. I think that is the move. That would be fire. Like, yo, she really tapping to her Australian Asian roots. My name is Rice Spice. Now, I is dead. You know what I'm saying? She could kill. So what I was. It was. It was. When did y'all shoot? Because that's what we was wondering. We were looking like, yo, they're always at the amusement park. Bro, 50's back here.

Bro, 50 is, oh, yeah. So people pop in and out. Okay. So, depending on, like, how much you're in the movie and, like, what parts of the movie are in, you've got to stay for shorter or longer. So, like, they were able to, and you got all these different people in it that have, like, really restricted schedules. So, like, you know, 50 stuff.

I think he was there for, like, a month. He lost, like, 25 pounds. I saw. Bro, it was, it was crazy. And he's just 50. You want to hear a fun 50 story? there's no such thing as a not fun 50 store all right we're at the first cast dinner right so he comes in

50 is like he's you know he's a major character in the movie but it's not like the biggest part of it he plays uh what ballrog ballrog right which is iconic character like it was made after mike tyson here's a little street fighter lore the bad guy in street fighters called m bison yep right hilarious so they made ballrog in the real version in like japan ballrog's name is m bison right and then somebody told the japanese creator's like you can't just make a guy that's like mike tyson and has boxing club they call em bison they're gonna know so they just switch the character names hilarious so ballrog so they call him ballrog whatever and uh he walks

into the party and everybody's excited to see 50 right like he's a lot of these like actors they never met him he walks in and he goes hey man i just want to thank you guys all so much for being a part of my movie. So he's cold in court at dinner and he goes to pick up a champagne glass. It's not even champagne in it. And he like spills it a little bit on me, right? He goes, dude, I'm so sorry, bro. Here.

And he takes off his Rolex. Get the fuck out of it. And he goes, here, so take that. Now I'm so sorry. Get the fuck out. I'm not taking his Rolex. He goes, no, bro. I feel horrible.

And I was like, there's no way you feel that bad. And he's like, he's like, no, seriously, you've got to take it. I'm like, I'm not going to take it. He goes, if your wife was here, she would take it. She would take it, but she's not at this there. And I go, I'm not going to take that. And he goes, you're sure. I'm like, yeah, because I know that later three guys would break into my apartment

and take this back, and I don't want to put my family to that. Run it back on Monday. And 50's like, nah, bro, I couldn't get my guys with the felonies in the country. Why didn't they just get Mike Tyson to play ball wrong? I'm glad 50 is, but why couldn't Mike? He's not that old, is he? Maybe two on the nose, you know? Like, you also, like, want somebody with some, you know, acting shops and experience.

I also think, like, if you see Mike Tyson in anything, you can't not see him as Mike Tyson. Yeah. You know, so it's like... Especially with the gloves and everything. It'll be like, yeah, who the fuck is ball rock? Also, 50's 50. Like, it's his movie. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Like... He said they're doing a spin-off with just him. That he, like, day one, he's already telling people what's... It's amazing. He's just a force on set. And it's going to have. He will, he will, he will shit into existence.

It's going to happen. If the movie is going to be good though. Yo, bro, this movie is going to, and I'm not saying this on some actor shit. Everything is made in the edit. So I can't control the edit. But what I will say is, you are going to go see if the edit matches like what we were doing in there. And I have no reason to think it should. Like really talented people.

They're working on. But like, you're just going to be very surprised by what you see. Like, the way it looks you're not going to expect. It's not shot like a Marvel movie. Wow. It's, it's, it's, it's, you're gonna walk in there, you go back, what? It comes down next year? Yeah, it'll be like next October.

Man. There's a scene where I got emotional. You had to cry and shit? You might see me crying in a scene. What? So you must be in the movie a lot if you had to be over there for too much. Yeah, like I'm like with the main guy. So I like, I like play like his manager in it without giving away too much.

So basically most of the stuff he's in, I'm in. Okay. So that's why I had to be there. Who's the main guy, Roman Raines? No, no. No, Roman is the bad guy. He's like Akuma or Akuma, I guess it's called. But Ken, you know, so it's Ryu and Ken.

This is a big, I don't think people realize how big a deal this movie is. Do you know what Street Fighter meant to our childhood? Like, it's like Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter. And before Mortal Kombat was Street Fighter. Yes. Street Fighter started fighting games, like for us. So, like, the crazy thing about being on the movie is that everybody around our age is super excited. because they all have stories,

core childhood memories of playing the game, putting their quarter on the little screen, playing the Marvel versus Capcom game, remember that one? So, like, everybody's excited. When they saw Cody Rhodes put the gile hair on, like the whole, everybody was buzzet.

The young kids don't really know it. But I think what people are starting to realize about movies now is that just putting out a movie that's a good story won't necessarily get people to go to theater. You've got to tap into existing IP. You got to tap into emotions, feelings, yeah.

And there's nothing you care about more than the shit that impacted you as a kid. This might revitalize the video game. Because I was thinking about that, you know, even watching y'all shoot. I'm like, they've done mad mortal combats. Why did they stop doing street fighters? Well, they did one with John Claude Van Dam, which was like horrible. I don't even remember that shit. And like Jean-Claudev...

Oh, the movie. No, I do remember movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was bad, bro. It was like... John Claude Van Dam is playing Gile. Gile. Gile was supposed to be like the most American guy ever. And John Claude Van Dam got a French accent or whatever the fuck he got.

That don't make no sense. Yeah. What would you say? was like the most surprising thing on set just being there for that long that you weren't anticipating maybe. So I didn't know how collaborative it was going to be.

You know like basically like the director, Katow is the man and also the producers like the guys at legendary like Kail and Jay. Everybody, there wasn't like this ego. Like sometimes directors and you need a lot of ego to be

like a director. It's like your vision. But like they were super collaborative. So They were, if you had ideas, they wanted to hear them. And when everybody cares about the movie, like, they start really caring about, like, what their character would do and stuff, like, on some real, like, actor shit that anytime you see an interview sounds wild corny. So even, like, saying it, I'm like, I'm, like, cringing. But it makes it better to be thinking what your character would do in every situation.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, like, we would just take their scenes and, like, make them funnier and build them and make them more, like, we were changing shit kind of on the fly. Like, it was. So to me, that was the thing. that I was most scared of, I was like, I don't want to just be sitting around all day doing nothing and then saving lines.

But instead it was like, all right, what are we going to do to this scene? How are we going to make this better than what's on the paper? And yeah, you're going to see some wild shit. You said something interesting. You said the movies made in the edit, man, I did not realize that until I started producing films.

Oh, bro. Like, the shit, like, the amount of shit that they shoot that doesn't get used. And when you got to, like, watch these three-hour long cuts, And you're like, huh? Yep. Like, you see, and then, when people, I've literally heard of producers say, there's a good movie in there.

In there. What the fuck? No, you're right. It's like entire people get cut out of movies. Yes. Whole scenes, whole actors, that. Nah, they can't. But that is what happened.

Like, you saw it happen on it? I think it was like the Formula One movie. Did you hear about that? Like, there was a girl who was like in the movie. I think she was like the love interest of one of the characters. And like, she was promoting the movie. And then she was just completely cut out. Just gone.

How the fuck you do that? How you just get rid of the whole character? I guess that storyline didn't, you know, play a part in it. But it was fucking... And again, I didn't even think I liked acting. I'll be honest, until I did the movie. Now, I was going to ask you that, too, because we had Cardi on Breakfast Club recently,

and Cardi says she don't like acting. She don't want to do it. She says she don't like being on sets. I don't like to hurry up and wait shit. She was like she don't like doing it. She does not want to be an actor. Because I asked her about... It was a movie that she was scheduled to do.

And I think like the week that they were supposed to start filming, she pulled out. You were supposed to shoot that movie with Paramount. And you was like, no, I'm not even going to do that right now. That is something, too, that is like, I don't really like to do. I always tell people, like, it's like, I don't like sets. I don't like waking up at a certain time. I don't, I don't like having, like, a set schedule. Set schedule.

It's just, this is why I never finished college. Like, it's just certain things are just not for you. Certain responsibilities are not for you. Like, I have to do things. my way, my time. I don't know how people do it. Which, by the way, I respect. You know what I mean?

Because you got to go with your gut, your instinct. You know, it might fuck up some business, but you got to make yourself happy. And it's a big commitment. You're there for months. You being a stand-up comedian, broadcaster, do you like acting like that? So in a traditional movie where it's just like,

show up, say that line, we're going to record it from this angle, this angle, then go home. Like, sit in the trailer for 12 hours. I'll go fucking crazy. Yeah. Like, my brain is not built for that. Like, I want to talk shit.

I want to... Yeah. But the fact that we were allowed to, like, kind of be collaborative in this movie, it's like, the in-between time isn't as boring. Because you're thinking about what would this scene be? What would this character do? How could we make this funnier? And it really made me go, I would like to be in a movie, but also be producing it.

Oh, yeah. Because then you're thinking about not just your scene. Like, we were around there watching other people's scenes, like pitching lines that would make them funnier. You know what I mean? Like, and a lot of times, like, in entertainment, motherfuckers only care about themselves. So they do their shit and they go home. But this wasn't like that.

Like, people were showing up to set when they weren't even there and just hang it. Wow. I mean, y'all were in our scurrence. It's not like they had any place to go. But, you know what I'm saying? No, you're in Sydney. Like, you can party. It's a real city.

And, like, fucking rice spices walking around. Rice spice might be there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Streaming. Listen, that is a great thing to think about. Because, you know, we definitely want to do a movie. I want to do a brilliant idiot, flagrant, die-hold mashup written by James Gunn.

Bro. You know he'd be in me when I was out there? Get the fuck out of here, you. I think he saw us, he said, thank you for the kind words. I think he saw us talking about Superman on this, on his pot. Get the fuck out of here. You got me checking my name. He left James on Red.

You left him on Red. Somebody I know was just with James. Oh no, it was fucking Alex. Yeah. Fucking James Gunn recorded at one of the fucking WTF. No way. Yes, motherfucker. He ain't all that shit.

You know, James, come on the pod, bro. How the fuck you don't- James, we need you on the pod. Yo, James, he is... I think he's a phenomenal comedy writer. He's the goat. And he's not even writing actual comedy. That's what makes it fun.

Like, that's what I even, we were talking even with the, not to make it about this movie, but it was like, the more you can get people, convince people that the drama is real, the funnier the funny parts will be because they're breaking up the severity of the drama. Yes. It's like a horror movie, like the greater the tension, the bigger, the fright. Think about Friday. Friday, people look at Friday as a comedy.

That's a fucking thriller. That's a drama thriller, you know? Fucking Chris Tucker owes Big Worm money. And Big Worm wants to kill them. You don't have my money by this day. You're going to die. Just think about that. But it's all the funny that's in it, you know what I mean?

Coming to America is a love story. It's actually a drama. But think about how, you know, that must feel to be like, damn, I don't want to marry this woman just because I'm supposed to. I got to break all these rural traditions. I'm going to go to America, live like a poor person to try to find love. All the comedy is within that amazing drama thriller story. That's what the fuck you need. And that's what everybody who does it right gets.

It's like I actually think the funniest movies are the ones where we genuinely believe the drama. Yes. Not even just movies, real-life scenarios. Please Johnson. Booty Warrior. hilarious. But he's raping me. Like, like, like, people have made, like,

that's James Gunn's newest character. We got to teach him about Flea Johnson. Oh, you ain't seen Peacemaker. You know what I've heard. Oh, my God. But Aaron, I mean, fucking Aaron McGruder did Please Johnson as the booty warrior on the boondocks. People laugh at that shit to make sketches.

But it's, oh, this man was real. He was on a, what was that show? called Dateline or some shit? Yeah. He was on a dateline on one of them shit. I saw, I saw him on a dating show, like an online date show. You see what I'm saying?

Him and, this guy's name? He was from Atlanta. I think he was like thugs. Would he? Yeah, him and Wood. Oh, I did. It was popped the balloon.

It was something like that. Yeah, they were both there and like. But think about that. Yeah. How scary that is? He was raping men. Yeah. But you watched it,

and every comedy writer's mind went. That's hilarious. He describes it like the thirst. No, no. Like, have you heard him? Like, in his prison, booty. Booty was more important than food. Booty.

A man's butt. Having some booty was more important than drinking water, man. I like booty. It is, it is just visceral way he describes it. Listen, I'm going to be like 50s. I want to speak that in the fruition. A brilliant idiot, flagrant. guy cold mashup comedy written by James Gunn.

James, we need you. You know what I'm saying? James, we need you. Like, that shit would be hilarious. And serious. Even the shit that I saw Kevin him doing. Kevin, I knew about the script anyway, but Kevin, Drewski, and Kai. Yes, they have a movie coming out.

It's a murder who done it. It's a mystery who done it. There's a dead body. And it's called the live scream from hell. Yeah. So it's like, yo, that's what you do. You got to put these. funny scenarios rooted in like a high-stakes drama situation.

Where is that? Is that in theaters? Is that streaming? Where is that going to be? I don't know where it's going to be. But if they put it on, whatever streaming platform is going to be on, it's going to break records. See you later.

It's just interesting because when I was out there, like, obviously, you know, a lot of the actors, they're, like, obsessed with film. You know what I mean? Like, that is their thing, right? And we were just talking about the industry in general. And we had this conversation and it was like, who are the young? there's a difference between a movie star and an actor, like a big actor. And like a movie star, they were defining as someone who, if they're in the movie, people show up.

Okay? Like, for example, like Chris Evans, I think that's his name, right? The guy who played Captain America. Captain America. Like, amazing is Captain America. Phenomenal. But are we coming because of Chris Evans? or are we becoming because of the IP that is?

The IP, absolutely, because Chris has been in other stuff. Exactly. But Leonardo Caprio can be in a movie about something we don't even know, and we're going to show up. How did the new shit do? How did one battle after another? Everybody talking about that. Like, I'm the most cynical comedian folks that I know that say every movie sucks

are like, this is the best movie. I'm going to go watch it this weekend. I did a screening for it last weekend. I didn't even see. You didn't even watch it? I didn't even stay, bro. I didn't even stay. They asked me to do it. Warner Brothers asked me to do it.

You posted about it and everything. I did. But you know, they paid me to do it. But the thing I liked about it was, you know, I like anything free for people. Yeah. So like, okay, all these people can come for free. But they was like, and also the cast wants to come. I'm like, oh, I'll do it.

That's because that's a, it was surprising the audience. Yeah. So we did it at the AMC theater. Theater was packed. All of these people came just to, you know, because I did the screening. And then Leo, Tiana, Tiana Taylor. What's the Spanish? My Spanish guy name.

Benicio del Toro. Benicio del Toro. Nominal actor. The director, Paula. Thomas Anderson. Oh, what's his name? The director? Paul Thomas Anderson.

Paul Thomas Anderson. Yeah. Everybody was there except for Regina Hall and Sean Penn. So, yeah. Yeah. Leonardo DiCaprio was there. Benisino Del Torra. Tiana Taylor, Chase Infinity.

And there was another young lady there, too. Yeah, it was a, she was a black woman. Can't remember her name. But this was Chase's first movie. Can you imagine your first movie being with Leonardo DiCaprio? And Paul Anderson said it took him 20 years to write this film. I love that. He said he had this idea for 20 years.

What is her name? Yeah, Shana McHale. Shana. Yeah. Yeah. Bro, let me tell you how crazy this is. I hadn't seen the movie yet, right? So we bought the cast out before the movie and I didn't stay for it.

I can't believe you didn't stay for it. So I hear Paul look at Shana and go, Jungle Pussy! So I'm like, well, wait a minute now, do I say something? I don't want to be the woke liberal here, right? But I'm like, how are you just going to turn to the black woman to say jungle pussy? When nobody else reacted. And so I'm like, hey, maybe this got, maybe this is an inside joke with them. That's her name in the movie.

Oh. I didn't know. He did give her that name. He wrote the movie. But I don't care. It's a movie, though. I was a little confused. And we're in front of everybody.

I'm like, yo. And it's before the movies. Before the movie. Nobody saw it. Oh, no. We got to tell him wait for opening weekend to be yelling jungle pussy, a black one. Come on. Come on, Paul.

Come on. It did $22 million. I don't know if that's good or bad. I know the budget was crazy. This movie is going to be great. It's the amount of conversation around the movie. Yeah. It's very few movies.

lately that I've heard this much talk about it. Like, and they did social media right. They hit the podcast. They did the event that's live like that. And you know what it is? A thriller? Comedy. You cannot tell that by the trailer.

By the trailer, you do not see any comedy in that movie. I heard it's like, I heard it's funny shit. That's what I heard too. I heard that shit is hilarious. I'm going this week. I'm gonna go Friday actually. Yeah. I also don't like watching movies at screenings,

bro. You don't, yeah, you don't like being around lots of people. Nah, I want to go in on a matinee, going to back of the theater, give my popcorn, my peanut, It's like a, it's peaceful for me. Like, you know what I mean? Especially after a long week, you know what I mean?

Listening to fucking, you know, rappers with their Twitter rants and all of this shit. Like it's like, it's like, it's like a good week, you know what I mean? You need to check out. I want to check out. Like, you know what I mean? I don't care about this shit. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But I'm glad you back, man. Me too, man. What did you miss the most? What was the story that had you like, oh, fuck no. Like I can't even concentrate on this fucking script. That's Charlie Kirk. That's Charlie Kirk. Wow.

That Charlie Kirkshire was wild. Wow. I feel like a million things happened. Like, that's why I did that piece. I did a little piece on the Charlotte Kirk there. And it was like, I had like a few days off. And I was like, I got to put my brain to work for something. But yeah, man, I'm trying to think what else?

What shocked you the most about the Charlie Kirk situation? I think it was like how quickly. It was politicized? Yeah. Same, yo. I mean, like that. Yeah. And it like, it kind of demoralized me a little bit.

Like, it kind of made me sad. Mm-hmm. Because what did anybody learn from it? Nothing. It's like any event. Yeah, we live in like the social media age or whatever where like there's just so much information you can confirm whatever you feel. But like, think about it.

Nobody learned anything from it. Whatever everybody already felt, they just put on top of the issue. So like the second. that happens, they found out that that the kid's dad was Maga, whatever like that, and they're like, see, it's one of you guys. But was he Maga or just a registered Republican? Whatever, he's a registered Republican, right?

And then the conservatives found out that his girl was a tranny or whatever like that, and then he was like, see, this is what happens. Was that confirmed? He looked like he wasn't getting no pussy or or whatever. I don't even know. Tussie, is it Tussie?

Tussie. I don't know. And then the conspiracy theory were like Israel did it. It's like what everybody already felt before it happened, they just painted on top of what happened. Yeah. And it was just like the dehumanization of it too. Like just the people that were seemingly celebrating it.

It was just crazy. It's like, wow, people really, they're not seeing each other as human beings. I think that, you know, I like Wayne W. Dyer. Right? And Wayne W. Dyer always talks about letting go of your need to be right. And I think that everybody needs to let go of their need to be right. I pulled this up just to say, you should challenge your ego,

cultivate humility and empathy, focused on understanding and collaboration rather than personal victory and practice mindfulness and self-compassion. We just live in an era where everybody wants to be right. And sometimes these situations aren't even about, right. Like, you should be trying to learn something else from said situation. Like, what is there to learn from this Charlie Kirk situation? And that's how I look at every single situation that happens. What are we learning? Yeah, what is we not learning? Nothing. It's just noise. Exactly. And, like,

how is this going to change us? How are we going to reflect on this and see what we could do better? Like, clearly there's a lot of dehumanization going along. So, like, what do we do about that? Like, how do we start to see people as humans? And the Charlie thing is, like, even talking about it, it exposed to me, because I started watching a bunch of his things. He'd DM me before. Really? Charlie. And he did something.

You got to talk? Are you? Yeah, we had like a little interaction. And he did something that I really, I really respect. And I understand that he is very like, you know, he's very politicized. And the algorithm has created different versions of him for different people and all that kind of stuff. But he saw a headline of me. And we'd never spoke.

And he hit me up and he was just like, hey, or maybe we had dim before, something like that. But they hit me and he says, hey, I saw this headline. It seems like you're. saying this thing, is that what you mean? And I was like, no, they're actually taking this thing out of context and this is what I was actually trying to say and blah, blah, blah. He's like, he understood. He got it. Bro, I cannot, there are friends, people that I would consider friends, people that I've helped, people that I've gotten visas to work in America. Akash? No. Those H-1B visas are all.

not like that have jumped to make content off of a headline that was taken out of context about me or something that people are framing that I said that wasn't that good and they jump to make content, they jump to monetize,

they jump to get clicks and views without simply just messaging me and asking for clarification. Somebody like Charlie has a different lens, right? And the reason I say that is because he's probably a person that they do that to him all the time. Well, yeah, I get it.

I honestly think, and I know this is like, and again, I understand how radioactive he is, right? Like, there are different, what this whole thing exposed to me is just like how fractured social media has made Americans, but also just like the world. Oh, it's over. Because like, no, no, for real. Because think about, like, there is a different version of Charlie Kirk depending on who you are. Yes. And the algorithm will feed you the things that confirm your. your belief about that person. So if you're a like God-fearing right-wing Christian, you're going to get

all this content about Charlie that speaks to that, about how important family is to him, about how important his Christian and his beliefs are to him. And you're like, wow, this is a really great man. And then if you're a person that doesn't like conservative rhetoric and you think conservatives are bigots, you're going to get all of those 30-second clips with no context of all the things that he said. They're like, oh, I don't trust black pilots or whatever the thing he's in. You're not going to get the whole conversation where that happened. You're not going to get anything that would actually give you nuance. So it's like the algorithm flattens all of us, you, me, Charlie, everybody into these two-dimensional

avatars. And then people watch four or five clips where people are reacting to that person. And then they go, oh, I guess this is what everybody thinks of that person. And then people feel really confident having these strong opinions from people that they do not know at all. I've written about this and I think it might have been to get honest at that line, but we, this era, it's like the multiverse, right? So that's why when people say like, you know, oh, I don't like Charlemagne, it doesn't offend me. And the reason it doesn't offend me is because I don't know what version of Charlamagne you witnessed. You know what I'm saying?

Like it's like, it don't bother me. You might have saw something from 10 years ago. You might have saw something from recently that you don't like. But then you also might have saw me over here talking about mental health. You might have saw me over here talking about, you know, having a political take. There's so many different versions of us that exist. Like, I can literally go down my timeline for one story and it'll be like, you didn't support Kamala Harris.

And then literally the next comment will be like, see, this is why Democrats will never win because people like Charlemagne can't stop glazing Kamala Harris. Like literally, it'll be the comments back to back. I'm talking about this happened one minute, this happened the next minute. So it's just like, what are you supposed to do with that? I'm not upset about anybody's opinion to me because I just don't know what they saw to have that opinion. So back in the day, there was this thing that I think John Stewart referred to as like the laundering of news. And it was like the Fox News to New York Post pipeline.

I don't know if you've heard about this. So like on Fox News there'd be like an opinion piece, right? And then that would happen like earlier in the day. And then by the night that opinion piece would be reported on by the news. and then in the morning it would be the front page of the post. So you take an opinion and then you turn it into fact. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And now we don't really trust, like, traditional media anymore, right?

So this is part of Trump going fake news. It's also part of, like, legacy media, you know, pushing us into fucking wars and lying about weapons of mass destruction for years. So we have, like, loss and faith. But for some reason, we believe if we see a random person on TikTok saying, something in their house. And they don't know what the fuck they're talking about either. Exactly.

None of these people, they don't know. There's no fact checking, nothing. But what it is is, we don't, it's not that we believe them. It's if we see four or five videos in a row, we think that's what everyone feels. Yeah. So the algorithm gives you this sense of this is what the world is feeling. And then we start going, well, if I don't feel that way, then I'll be an outsider. So then we go, I guess that's how I feel.

Yo, I hear people say stuff like that. They'll be like, you know, this conversation is. gone all around the world because that's what their algorithm makes them feel it's probably 20 people bro like it's literally probably 20 fucking people you know the best conversation i saw about the charlie kirk shit tony heccey coach and ezra klein yeah yeah you know why because it was a good faith conversation yes and it was two people who had two different opinions yep they agreed to disagree and i don't think either one of them were really that far apart on what they wanted their ultimate goal to be with said conversation.

I think both of them were looking for sanity. Yeah. In all of this chaos. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And Tani Hesi had a perspective. And Ezra had a perspective. And I don't even think Ezra's perspective was what Tonehisi thought it was.

Like Tanii... And I'm probably pronouncing Tani Hec's name all wrong. But y'all know I can't pronounce it. Just do go with Coates. Coats, Mr. Coates. Yeah. I think that Mr. Colts was saying he didn't like the whitewashing of Charlie Kirk, right? Because you should be able to discuss somebody's, when they pass.

You should be able to discuss them in their whole totality. Like, nothing should be fragmented. Everything should be on the table. And you can acknowledge what happened to him was wrong. Yes. You know what I'm saying? What happened to him was wrong. What happened to him was tragic.

I wouldn't wish that on anybody, right? because I wouldn't want something like that to happen to me just because somebody doesn't agree with my opinion. But we should still be able to discuss their whole legacy in its, you know, totality. And I guess that's what he didn't like about Ezra Klein's approach. And I don't even think that's what Ezra was trying to do. No, I don't think.

I think what Ezra was trying to do is basically say, like, if you actually want to win an election, you have to wide the scope of acceptability of the people into your coalition. So it's like if Democrats are going to win, they can't just be pointing fingers in saying that people aren't, good enough and that they're not liberal enough and they're not accepting enough, right? That's why he brought up the deplorables.

Yes, with Hillary Clinton. And like, I actually think what Ezra is saying is like he's operating in the real world. Ezra is going, hey, I actually care about winning elections. Tana Hathi too, though. Sure, sure, sure. Tothi said I would have never said the deplorable comment. I've been obsessing recently for a piece I've been writing about the Hillary Clinton deplorable's comment and I want to play it.

You know, to just be grossly general. You can put half of Trump supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Racist, sexes, homophobic, xenophobic, you name it. And unfortunately, there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people. people. Now I have 11 million. He tweets and retweets. They're offensive, painful, mean-spirited, rhetoric. Now, some of those folks, they are irrefable, but thankfully they are not American.

What do you think when you hear that? She probably shouldn't have said it. But think it's true? I mean, it's probably not how I would say it, but you know what I mean? There are things that I would say. You know, I probably would say what I said earlier, you know, in the interview about the force of, and I mean, as I've been saying, it's probably since as long as we've been talking. Yeah. You know, but I'm not right. I just want to be clear about something. I shouldn't be running for president of the United States. You know what I mean? And my expectations for the rhetoric of writers, intellectuals, journalists, et cetera, is very, very different than what the expectation should be for people who, you know, expect to hold office.

But what Ezra is doing is, like, when you actually want to win an election, you. you have to have this type of, like, language and rhetoric, right? And that's exactly why they were on the same page. Remember that what I took? Before you walked in, I was telling Chris, the reason I like that combo and the thing that I think is getting lost in that is what Tana Hasi was saying about how you win elections. Yeah.

He essentially was saying, like, I don't want Barack Obama saying certain things because I know he can't win. You know what I mean? Who was saying that? Tana Hasi. Yeah. So I don't know if it was about reparations or not. It might have been about reparations. Or he was talking, I think it might have been about reparations because he was talking about how

It was an article he rolled called. He said the thing about, it was Kamala. Remember, he was like, I had to go speak to these people who are, that's right. Palestinian people who are suffering based on what's happening in Palestine right now. But I had to tell them, I got to support this woman who was doing nothing during the Biden administration, would continue to do nothing afterwards because of something I want. Kamala Harris was running to be the first black woman to be president of the United States.

You cannot imagine how animated. made it, black folks were. And some would argue the base of the Democratic Party, black women. You know, we're going to see this thing. She was not taking a position that I thought was particularly moral. I had to talk in front of black audiences about that.

You know what I mean? And I had to do the other thing, which was go before Arab American audiences here, Palestinian American audiences here, and say, look, I'm with you. You can be mad at me. You probably will be mad at me. I get it. But for me, politics is the, you know, the less of too evil.

We've been fighting this battle for a long time. We have never had the luxury of electing people that represented the best of us. And this is why I'm voting for her. And like, that's a mature way of looking at politics. That's right. But the problem is the algorithm does not care about mature ways of looking at anything. If you look at a lot of the reaction to that interview, it's not same conversation. It's finger pointing. It's, oh, Ezra missed this and, oh, Oh, tell us, I see this, that. And it's just like, because that's what works. The rage bait works online.

And I actually hit up Ezra about it. I was like, you're doing the right thing. But you got it. I hope you're ready for when you're a nuanced person. You get to piss off everybody. Because there's so much reward online and engaging in saying, oh, this person's sitting on the fence or this person. Maybe we need to get closer to the fence. I enjoyed the conversation.

I enjoyed the conversation. I thought they probably agreed on more things. that they disagreed on. But when they disagreed, it was just a civil, good faith conversation. We're also friends, which helps.

Yes, they talk about, yeah, that kind of stuff. And then, you know, that there was a point where I think that,

like, I think Tanaasi was like, I have a different responsibility. I'm a journalist, right? Like, so I think I talk about these things and I share my pins on this. I'm not, like, running for elected office, et cetera.

Yes, but that's real, though, right? And you know who's dealing with that right now? It's on Ron Mondani. You know what I'm saying? Like it's different when you are activists and you're saying certain things but now you're running for office and you're getting to the finish line

you're like, oh. You gotta pull people in. And those same people that were supporting them you got a lot of people that's just like what are you doing? Why did you say that? Blah, blah, blah. It's like, yo, he's trying to win an election, y'all.

Like, if you really believe he is who he says he is and you believe that he's going to implement change, let him go out there and motherfucking cook. Okay? But it's not good enough for people And what people can't do is look at human beings as three-dimensional beings, right? It's like, it's so funny.

There are opinions that I'm sure a Charlie Kirk has or a Ta-Nehisi-Codes or any of these figures, right? Not saying they're the same, but like their opinions that they might have that you disagree with. There are opinions that you disagree with with your dad or your grandfather. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Your family members might have really bigoted opinions about certain things that you think are deplorable. But at the same time, you love how they treat their grandma. They were every single one of your football games. You know they love you more than anything in the world.

So it doesn't make you... But would you love them the same way if they had the ability in scale to impact people's lives? Oh, no, no, no. That's... Let me get to that point, because I think what you're saying is it makes sense. What I'm saying is you have the ability

to just see them as a human, right? You see things that they have that are flaws. Sure. But they're still a human. But right now, with the way that we consume all information on the video, there is no humanity. All you are are. collection of ideas that I hate or a collection of ideas that I love, there's extreme reactions.

And the problem with that is that if you're a collection of ideas that I hate, right, then somebody shoots you and then people celebrate because the thing that you hate, instead of looking at that person like, that's also a father and that's also somebody who was trying to make the world a better place in what he saw and he was driven by God. You're absolutely right. What you're saying is we're making everybody disposable. Yes. We're making everybody disposable.

Even when we say things like, oh, they're canceled, they're done. Like, you're literally making humans disposable. We have more empathy for people outside of our country that we disagree with than people inside of our country. And I understand that proximity increases fear, which is what you're talking about, right? But, like, there are people, I'm sure, around the world that we deeply care about. Like, obviously, you see, like, the care. Like, people bring this up all the time. They're like, how stupid is that there are queers for Palestine?

Like, they bring up this argument. And it's like, that's actually not stupid. That's incredible humanity caring about someone's life Even though they might disagree with yours That's not a stupid person That's an amazingly beautiful, open-minded person That goes, that person disagrees with me

On maybe the most fundamental thing that I care about But they're still a fucking human being So I want them to exist That is like I wish that we had that type of empathy For our fellow Americans And not just the people abroad There's got to be some sodomy going on in Palestine I know, right? Like, I'm just saying, there's got to be some down.

Come on, bro. I know it's a religion. Come on. It's got to be, right? Like, I mean, the, the reason hummus was invented was Lou. He's, he. There's a famous quote about, I mean, it's... Thomas?

No. What is the quote, Chris? There's a town in the quote is the birds fly over it with one wing because they have to cover their ass with their other ones. God damn. Oh, no, but that is real. What the fuck is that about? I don't know.

What? What I read it? Who's fucking the birds? Oh, Jesus. If it moves. If it moves. Oh, they're fucking anything. Yeah, yeah.

Someone already got that goat. What? Yeah. That goat, that ghost's tired. That goes a long day. That's going to have a long day. Why they don't want the women, though? No, they do want the women, man.

But you got to marry them. Oh. You don't got married a goat. You got to marinate them. Maybe that's... I'm going to what, let me lead him alone. I can make that joke. I'm Scottish. They say we fuck sheep. They say we fuck sheep.

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What else, man? It's a lot. I don't even know where to fucking begin. Oh, the government shut down. I don't even know what that means, bro. That means that federal workers won't be getting paid. That means federal workers will be getting furlough. That means that, you know, if you're not going to stay.

No, that means that even if you're an essential worker, you still got to go to work, you still don't get a check. That means that active duty troops still got a report duty and not get paid. Oh, wow. It's silly. And you know, the illest thing about this is that Republicans have found a way to blame this on Democrats,

but Republicans, y'all have all the power. Why, yeah, don't they control? You control everything. So who are the dissenting votes? They blamed it on, I've seen them, I've seen them blame it on one person. Who? AOC.

But how they're, how, I don't even know. You know, I saw Nancy on Fox. I think Nancy was on Fox. Nancy made, Nancy say, I just want you. you all to know that the government is shut down because of a former bartender from the Bronx. Everyone needs to know that the government is shutting down tonight because of a bartender from the

Bronx. Chuck Schumer is so afraid of AOC primaring him for the U.S. Senate in New York. That's what this is all about. So he's catering to the far, far left of his party. The other thing is they'd rather fund health care for illegal aliens than pay our troops. Like that's where we are tonight. Good luck with that in the midterms. Like, God, damn. But how come Democrats can't message that Republicans y'all have all the power? Y'all are the ones in control. Y'all are the government right now. Y'all chose to do this. I think the tricky thing with Dems right now is the establishment Democrats have nothing to offer. And the American people know that. walking into Congress with one hand over the asshole.

They're walking into, they walking into, they're walking in the government one hand over the asshole because they're getting fucked at every turn. Lindsey Graham is right there. Lindsay's like, finally. No, but like, the establishment ones really just have

nothing to offer the American people. The new Democrats, right, the Zora Mamdani's, the AOCs, and then Bernie, the guy who has been spirited in this movement, they have something to offer. And the reason I know the day of something to offer is they don't talk about Trump constantly. All, Mumdani talks about New York. He talks about what he wants to do with New York. Like his ideas or hate his ideas, that's fine. You can be critical of someone's

ideas. This is America. But he actually has something to offer. He believes he has something to offer people. He goes, hey, we're going to do things to help your life. The establishment Democrats, this is kind of what I realized. I was like, oh, they got nothing to offer. So the The only thing they could do is go, he's bad. Look how bad he is. I watched him on CNN. He did an interview with Aaron Burnett the other day, and it was a good interview. And, yes, he was just dropping what he wanted to do, all his policies.

And they asked him about Trump calling him a communist. He didn't even stay on that too long. Bro, think about it. Think about your restaurant, right? How do you promote people to come into your restaurant? Do you say, yo, all those other restaurants are horrible? You don't want to eat there. Their food is bad?

Or do you talk about how delicious your food is? Yeah. If you got good food, tell me about it. Yeah. But if you got nothing to sell, then all you can do is slander the opposition. Mondani is going to be either a home run or a big swing and a miss. If he wins. If he wins.

If he wins and it's a swing and a miss, right? Like that is a devastating blow. But I think that the swing in the miss might come from him not being able to implement the things. Simple as that. But that's why it's a swing and a miss. So it's like you still got a temper of people's expectations. I believe that I keep telling people, go back and watch President Obama said when they was campaigning with Kamala and the way he spoke about how sometimes, and I'm paraphrasing, but how sometimes Democrats just promise too much. You just promise the world to people.

Politicians do that in general. Like everybody, they just promised the world, promise the world. And then people are micromanaging things so much now. Like, they're like, well, you said you was going to do X, Y, and Z and you didn't do this. So they're going to be on Mondani about getting a lot of the things that he said he was going to. do done. And when he's not going to be able to implement those things, since people don't understand politics, they're going to crucify him for it. And then he's going to also have to play ball, right? I mean, hasn't Trump promised 500 things in the first month of his second

administration? None of them came to pass. It doesn't seem to impact him. But he won twice already. No, but you know why it doesn't impact him? Why? Is because there's nothing else that is being offered up. All it is is whining and crying about Trump. Tell us, will it, will a Democrat come out and tell us how they're going to make people's lives better. I think they have. It just doesn't resonate. Who? And I think...

I get emails every day from the team Jeffries and they're laying out... Garbage. No, but that's to my point. People are laying out plans and giving specifics. What? What is Hakeem specifically said? I mean, I can go into my email right now. This guy emails me every day of the week.

Akeem definitely got his butthole covered. So the point is, we don't want to hear it. anymore from a certain part of that party, right? Yeah. And part of it is that Mandami has new ideas that have kind of risen above the noise, but I think it's also just like fresh energy on a certain level is resonating with people. I agree, but I think, you know, listen, if he wins, like I said, he's going to have to get things done. Well, what does he have to do to win?

Oh, right now you need some black people and some Jewish people on this side. I think, well, yo, Momdaon is a perfect example. of what we're talking about, about like the flattening of people. Yeah. Like there are certain people that truly just believe he is a anti-Semitic communist. They literally believe that is who he is as a person. And then there's other people that believe that he's a young, smart liberator that's trying to help people that are struggling to make it through in a very expensive city.

This is the same person. And online, there are two different versions of him. Maybe 10. No, exactly. There's 20. There's a million different ones. And it's like... Muslims got mad at him another day.

because he said he wanted to decriminalized prostitution. When he was on Rosalorento, like he kind of had to explain that. Do you support decriminalizing prostitution? Yes, right now what we see in this moment is we have an approach that is not putting safety first. What we saw with the previous mayoral administration was an end to the raids that we saw on sex workers, an end to prosecutions that were taking place of sex workers themselves. What we have to bring to City Hall is a focus on ending sex workers. trafficking on ensuring that there is no tolerance for violence against women and also having

safety at the cornerstone of all the policies that we pursue. And when we look at the findings of whether it be the world health organizations or the United Nations Working Group on the safety of girls and women, we find that decriminalization is one that actually provides the most safety for these sex rights. I know. A lot of people are concerned about the young girls being traffic. But Muslims are like, what do you mean? You want to decriminalize prostitution? Like even Oddi would love that, right? And he won't do it anyway, so what's the difference? But he said he wanted to.

Well, I don't know. I think the crime thing is going to be a challenge for him. The crime thing is going to... It's a challenge for me. Like, if I had one reservation, it's... I've often said I'm a little more, like, pro policing than probably a lot of other people who share ideas with me. And, like...

Bro, it doesn't work. This idea that, like... The fund's not going to work. I like what he says when he says refunds so... social services, though. Sure. Look, at the end of the day, you don't do something because you're worried about the punishment. I would love for us to sit here and go, like, we're not going to do it because, you know, forgiveness is important and we're all going to know how. If we had the right opportunity,

we had the right money, we would do the right thing. You know how many friends of mine that came from, like, upper middle class backgrounds ended up selling drugs because it was fun and they were lazy? Damn. You know what I mean? It's just like, you need punishment. Unfortunately, we are human beings. Well, we have punishment. I don't know if we have enforcement all the time, and that's the issue. I think there's a great, it's in the middle. It's catch and release. Yeah, you're right.

Like, you need a, I promise you, you start punishing people. They'll stop committing crimes immediately. Yes, but shows what happens when you punish them, right? Like, catch and release is one thing. But, okay, let's say you catch somebody who has been committing crimes, right? Right. What happens when they're in the system? Are you actually trying to make them better?

They call it a correctional system. Are you actually trying to correct anything? Are you teaching them how to eat better? Are you giving them proper mental health services? Are you letting them learn a trade that they can take with them when they do get out into society? Are you giving them a higher education while they're in there? Like, don't just take these people and lock them up and throw away the key. There should be some rehabilitation for these people.

So when they go back out in the streets, then maybe they can go find a job and don't have to resort to a life of crime. If you're putting them in a situation where they go into these jails and now they just got to survive, one hand on their motherfucking butthole, you know what I'm saying? Literally, right? They become more savage. They become more of an animal. Like, let's rehabilitate these people to send them back out the street. But there is one line between this conversation

and the Charlie Kirk conversation that I feel is at the core of it. Talk to me. Guns. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I'm not, listen, I'm a 2A all day. I believe in my right to bear arms, but I also believe in common sense gun reform.

I believe in common sense gun legislation. Some of these weapons don't need to be on the motherfuckold. 80% of people, believe in it. You know? There are too many. We thought we had a scooter problem. No, no.

Nobody thought that with you. The guns. Problem one and one A. Problem one and one A. There is no. There is a week. There is a group. RIP Eric Adams finally came out

against scooters right at the end. You said RIP Eric Adams. To his candidacy. Oh, yeah, yeah. But he took a hard stand at the end. Took a hard stand on scooters at the end. I'll respect them for it. Well, Chris, I'm going to be honest with you,

This is one of the problems we're like. We're in here talking about some real shit. Yeah. You bring up scooters. You bring up scooters. You know what I'm saying? Hey, violence is violence. Gotta stop these school scootings, man.

Bro. School scootings, man. These school school school, it's too many mass school scootings in America shows. We got to stop. Okay. It's too many mass school scootings, man. It is crazy that like with Trump dropping the ball on so many of the things that he promise that Democrats haven't been able to like pick up steam.

What is that? Yo, we've said that. And we said this a million times. Yes, we know Trump is going fumble. But the Democrats don't have the team to pick up the fucking ball. But why is that? And it seems that like people are, I don't know, maybe they're angry. I don't know.

There's just like a lot of rep. I got thoughts. I got plenty of thoughts on that. I've said it a million times. I think because they haven't acknowledged the big lie yet. Yeah. Now, Kamala has done it in her book 107 days. The original sin did it.

Corinne John Pierre got a book coming out. But more Democrats have to acknowledge the big lie. Throw that old regime under the bus. And literally it needs to be blown up. The amount of people, let me tell you how, how, like, what is it when you're not willing to reflect? You're just, you know, when you ignore your problems, what does that work? Not having any mirrors? I don't know.

No, but literally, it's like, um, Oh, God, I can't believe I'm forgetting this word. But the lack of like self-reflection or... Self-awareness? Yeah, self-awareness. Or like, you're just not facing your problem. Accountability? You're ignoring, you know, the lack of accountability or whatever it is.

Basically, the amount of like DMs or like tweets or whatever I'll get, right? About people that literally think that like me, Joe Rogan and Theo Vaughn are responsible for Trump becoming president. that don't think that the fact that Democrats ran a dead guy and then a woman that couldn't talk had anything to do with it just shows that they're not willing to be in reality. Like all these people are just like, let's ignore what's happening in our house and let's point blame, let's scapego,

let's find out what's going on in the world. It's like you ran a dead guy that we all knew we're dead. You gaslit us into thinking that he wasn't. And now you're writing books about how he was. And then you ran a very unpopular candidate that said she was going to do all the same things as the dead. ran the running mate of one of the most unpopular presidents ever. And you gave her 107 days to do it when her approval ratings was lower than him. So not only does she have to dig herself

up out of that grave, she got to do some allowed me to reintroduce myself shit. And that's impossible to do in 107 days. That's why I genuinely enjoyed her book, man. I enjoyed her book because there was accountability there. I've seen people say it's a book full of excuses. It is. But Like, who doesn't have excuses when they lose, right? And by the way, I wouldn't even call them excuses so much as to say... Does she acknowledge not coming on the pots? Yes. That's another revision.

She has a whole chapter about Joe Rogan. And she said people completely fucked that up. She actually said... And hold on, let me make sure I'm getting that right. She actually said it was Rogan's team that was not being honest about that situation. Yeah, I bet. Let me make sure. I know for a fact her team has lied about us, like 100% fact.

Yeah, she said she wanted to appear on Rogan's podcast on October 25th, 2004, but he chose to interview Donald Trump instead. She alleges that Rogan later made false claims that her campaign had placed restrictions on topics for the interview. In late 2024, Harris campaign made an offer for a one-hour off-site interview in D.C. But Rogan insisted on an open-ended in studio conversation. In Austin, which her team rejected, AIDS suggested that some of her more progressive advisors were concerned

about the optics of an appearance on Rogan's podcast. giving his history of controversial remarks. She talked about all of this in the book. But it's just so, like, it's just so interesting that, like, the revisionist history is that, like, Trump wins because he comes on these comedians' podcasts. As opposed to the other side just being bad. The other side was also invited onto.

Like, how are we responsible for their bad decisions? You're going to be talking about this till the day you die. Who is me? Yes. Why? Because it's actually a moment in time. if we realize it at night. You don't realize it until you, like,

dang, this isn't a book. Yeah. Like, you read these things. They're in books. Like, we're part of history. Like, whether you want to be or not. It's similar to 1960 in a way. I wasn't there, Chris.

Neither was I. What happened? What happened? But I've read about it in books. Talk to me. So there was a technological shift in 1960. The debate between Kennedy to Nixon was the first presidential debate

that was ever televised. So coming into it, Kennedy was young. and vibrant and energized and Nixon was old compounding that he like hit his knee against his car door. He had an injured knee and he was like sweating and like freaking out and that's in retrospect what people say shifted the election because the technology had changed. People had never had a chance to see the candidates before and they were such a stark contrast. And I think with podcasting and the shift in media

for this election, it's the same thing where there's this shift happening in one space and then the politics kind of dovetails into it and you have a big trick. Can I bring up something about this which is good?

I'll tie it back in. Okay. There's no young like movie stars right now. There's no young like action story. Timothy Schalleman. I would say he's a movie star, but he's not like a... He's not like a...

He's not box office yet? No, no, no, no, no. I'm not being critical of Timmy. Like, obviously he's very successful and he's talented. But, like, outside, like, Timothy, it's like, who is the young Tom Cruise? Like, when we were growing up, there were all these guys. There was Bruce Willis. There was, like, 20 different young actors that were like...

Is not Timothy? No, no, he's one. But I'm saying, like, he's one. Like, and I don't even know... I would have to ask my daughter. Like, she'd be into those people. Because there were only a limited amount of platforms when we were growing up. Well, well, yes.

But I also think what happened is, I think that... Hollywood kind of ignored what was happening. I think what happens is less people were going to movies. Hollywood got scared. They started putting the same stars that they know could draw in movies. Like Tom Cruise is still doing Mission Impossible, right? Like, he's 70 years old. Like, he's still hanging off of planes.

He's seven, like, they haven't gotten the 50-year-old version of that. Like, the 30, the 20. Like, so I think what Hollywood did is they started to freak out and they started, okay, let's keep on putting Indiana Jones in movies. Let's keep on doing the folks that are watching. They were trying to play it safe. They're trying to play safe because the budgets are 200 million, et cetera. And then what happened is the next crop of young entertainers don't end up going into Hollywood.

They end up streaming. They're Kai, right? They're Druski. There's a bunch of comedians like myself. Like now we're going into movies. But like we're basically the younger crop of entertainers that if this was 30 years ago, you don't think Kai or Drusky would be in every single movie? They would.

They would be Eddie Murphy. will be Jim Carrey. I think back in the day. The reason why I say I don't know, because none of those motherfuckers in Hollywood have ever shown us that they know real raw talent. Well, I'm saying. I'm saying, like you really had to take your hand. You had to be the bird that take your hand off the wing. He had to be the bird that takes your wing off the asshole.

And go in these studios as first. Yeah. As first, mouthful. Right? You know what I'm saying? Like, is it a coincidence that all of these guys, that you named, right? A lot of these Hollywood types have all of these rumors.

No. If you understand what I'm saying, where did those rumors come from? I don't know. Huh? Where they naturally born that way? Or did they become that way because of opportunity? My point is the Kai's, the Drewskiy's the youth. I don't know if Hollywood ever sees y'all, bro.

I'm being honest. No, no, 100% Hollywood. Hollywood is just starting to see comedy, right? They're just starting to see comedians. They don't even know streaming exists. Like the fact that this movie is, is happening with them is massive. But if, if Kevin Hart doesn't go, I want to do this movie, that's not happening. And he's a major movie star, right? It's Kevin's ability to recognize

what was actually happening where the youth is, where the kids are. Like, think about podcasting. Like, Kamala thought that it was in her best interest to not go on the biggest platforms on the planet. I do think Kamala did a combination of both, but she did miss big platforms like rogan, like flagrant, but I think that she did what you should do because we live in the world now where you just have to be in front of as many eyeballs as possible. Sure. Like I did an upfront for Nielsen this week, and I think what Nielsen is doing is dope now because all of this stuff is going to account for ratings now.

Like, it's not just people listening to the radio, it's podcasts, it's all, social media, like everything is combined now. I'm giving you the not, yeah, the not educated technical version of it, right? Right, right. But that's what you have to do. I think she did a good job at that. You should go on the view, but then you should go do all the smoke, right? You should go on Stephen Colbert, but you should also go do Flayrin.

She did a bunch of podcasts, right? It was just... Trump didn't do that because he didn't have to. He's been campaigning for 10 years. I don't need to go on your mainstream platforms. I can go on all of these podcasts, and you got to talk about me anyway. But he did go on a bunch of them. No, he didn't do no main screen stuff.

Outside of Fox, other than that, it was strictly podcasts. He didn't do any, he didn't do none of the late-night shows, none of the daytime television, nothing. But he didn't, it's not like he went on Podsave of America. America. Yeah, that's true. That would have been, you know. That'd been great. He didn't ran through after from the Rana. I guess. And I love the positive America guy. He didn't ran circles around. Yeah. I, I, I don't know. I, I guess what I'm saying is like, Hollywood's late to recognize like what the youth was doing. But back in the day, there wasn't an opportunity to stream and do shit online. So all these young talented

people would gravitate towards TV and towards movies. So they would probably end up being there. And I think it's in Hollywood's best interest to really recognize what all the young folks are doing because that's where the eyeballs are. Yeah. Like if you want people to go see your movies, if you want young people to see your movies, you have to put the young people that they're invested in those movies.

But somebody like Kai is interested though, right? Because even what Kai is doing is not TV or film. He's just introducing the world to him. And as we're looking at him, we're like, man, that guy got a lot of personality. Yeah. Man, he might be good in the movie. he might be good in the sitcom.

His approach wouldn't be the same if he had to come up 30 years ago and go out there and audition. We might not get that version of Kai. Same with you. We don't get raw Andrew Schultz. If Andrew got to come out with slick back hair and a black leather jacket

and I want to audition as the funds. You know what I'm saying? Like we don't get you. 100%. So the error that we're in calls for authenticity. Authenticity, right? Like that's not what the era.

back 30, 40 years did. You had to be polished and clean. Like, that's not what the world wants no more. And that's what Democrats keep fucking up. That's where Kamala has. Even now, she writes this great book. And for her, to me, it's raw. And I'm like, this is, yes, finally you telling just a little bit of truth,

just enough truth to rattle everybody, to make everybody take a wing and put it around their butt hole, right? Just in case you really try to go fuck us, right? Right? But then you do the interviews, and it's not that. I know. Rachel Maddow, you pressed a little bit, you're like, no, that's not what I meant. Like, no, stand on it.

You was right when you said you couldn't have chosen Pete as a running mate. Yeah. Why did she kind of fold on that? That was weird. I think because Rachel Maddow is a part of the LGBTQ community and it just was a little bit of, and I don't know if Kamala was trying, even when you read the book, what she's saying is true, but it's not her personal feeling. You understand what I'm saying?

Like if I say, hey, we can't choose this guy as a running mate, man, because he's a gay, he's a gay man. I'm already a black woman with a Jewish husband. That's tough enough. I'm just looking at it from a strategy perspective. I'm looking at it from strictly politics, right? But people will say, that means you're homophobic. No, it doesn't. This is business.

This ain't got nothing to do with what I personally think. I'm telling you America's not ready for this. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, Chris. Do you? No, and I think that's something Trump does well. does what he has to do, explains why he does it, doesn't try to... Or it doesn't explain. He doesn't apologize.

He doesn't apologize. I mean, I would say... I would have loved to hear Tanya Hacci and Ezra had that conversation. Because I know that they would agree with Kamala on that. But just to circle back to the what's wrong with the Democrats combo, I don't think it's because they haven't acknowledged the original sin. I mean, you said they have to throw Biden under the bus. Biden's already under the bus.

You'd have to get his body, pull it out of the bus and then throw it in front of the bus. Yeah, it got to be a public. It's over. It's got to be public. No, I got to be public, Chris. To me, and this got brought up, I think Andrew said at the very beginning of the show, it's the fractured nature of the left right now. The left is eating itself a lot.

They've always done that, though. I know, but it's heightened right now. And it's Gaza. It's identity politics, like. It's Gaza's identity politics, and it's the anger of losing. Right. And feeling like the people in power trying to strip you and your friends of your rights and your dignity. And they're genuinely.

And they're not wrong. But they genuinely believe that. So I understand that heightened sense of defensiveness is not going to lead to a more accepting, welcoming coalition. The problem is you kind of need that. You need an accepting welcoming coalition. You got to bring back people that left you because they felt ostracized.

You have to, if you actually want to win. But I think a lot of these people don't want to win to what Charlemagne was saying. They just want to be right. They want to go and make a TikTok video, pointing fingers at everybody that disagrees or that they disagree with. so that they could get a bunch of comments, a bunch of likes. And it's like, all right, well, then you're not a serious guy.

Well, that's always been the case. I mean, you had Abby Hoffman in the far, far radical left. I mean, I think what we're going through now, the closest, you know, analogy is the late 60s, early 70s in America. Those guys hated the mainstream Democratic Party, right? But they had a limited platform in the sense that even though they made a lot of noise that only traveled so far. Now, someone can say, well, you've sold out to the corporate Democrats or the

Eastern Democrats and you're abandoning on and it gets amplified that it seems like that person is representing a larger, you know, portion of the party than they probably do. But then it keeps building and building and building and, you know, people are going to have to figure out how to, you know, it's like if you're working on something creative, you have a scene you like, sometimes you got to give up stuff you love, you know, to make the entire piece work. You know, I love President Biden. Yes. Democrats got to give him up. Maybe Bill Clinton.

Well, I can only speak for myself. That was a fear-based decision. Listen, you know Republicans do that Democrats don't do it. I saw this and I think it's genius. J.D. Vance said, yeah, you know, the economy isn't where we need to be. Yeah, inflation and all of that stuff is up. But it's the Democrats' fault. Why didn't they ever do that when they got back in the White House?

Why didn't they talk about all the stimulus checks that caused inflation? That's what I'm talking about. Democrats did not do that. I don't know. Biden did it. He did a 10. Well, when J.D. Bans did it, it resonated in the cut through. When Biden didn't.

Obama did it? Obama? Like, he did it? I'm just saying, when they inherited the bad economy they got from Trump. But I hate the finger pointing. I don't like it when either side does it. No, it's politics. Don't you have to do it.

I know, I know. It's not like you're on the football field lined up with the person and you can just go head-to-head with them. This is how you take out your opponent. They do a better job of constantly making Democrats look like the problem. Right now, government shut you. Who do some people think is responsible for the government shut down? Democrats.

Why? Because Republicans got the bully pulpit and they're saying it. And we know that's not the case. They have all the power. They're in control of every single thing. Who's the Democrat with the loudest megaphone able to say that? Jasmine Crockett. And she's not as loud as conservative media.

So now what do you do? Yo, they just had a meeting two days ago. This is crazy to me. They had a meeting Pete Hexef and Donald Trump with all the generals, the generals, a public meeting that we all watched where they are sitting there trying to get these generals to pledge their loyalty to them and nobody thinks that's strange. What do you mean? We read enough books to know what that is, right?

Wait, wait, wait, wait. What do you mean? Like, they are loyal to him. He's the committed to the truth. No, no, no. They should be loyal to the United States of America. No. No. You can't be loyal to a man when a man is telling you, I want you to go out there and wage war on your own citizen. I'm sorry, gentlemen, you're off on this. I mean, I disagree with waging war on your own citizen.

But that's what he said? Yeah, but he is the commander-in-chief. Like, he is in control of the military. In a war against the foreign power. Yes. He is in control of the army. He is in control of the Navy. You control of the Air Force.

That is his role. If we're talking about the role of the president here, I don't think that there's anybody that would refute that. That is his job, and that is part of his job, and that is his position. But you need people that are willing to push back. Because what if we have an authoritarian regime in the White House that is saying, hey, I want y'all to start interfering when people are peacefully protesting. I want y'all to start interfering at the ballot box to make sure that these people can't vote. I want you to start removing people that are my political opposition from office.

At some point, a general admiral got to be like, whoa. Those things are horrible, but the general admirals do not have the authority to reject the wishes of the precedent, if I'm not mistaken. No, I don't believe. They're not an independent body because if they were, then you wouldn't be able to go to what Congress can restrict what the president can do in terms of like. But only Congress can declare war, I believe. Exactly. And that's why we've had all these conflicts. But shouldn't then by that stance, only Congress could tell the army to start enforcing against U.S. citizens on U.S. oil.

If you're going to war against them. And Trump said, basically, if you don't want to do what we want you to do, then you got to go. So when you're trying to build your own military that is loyal to you and not just, and not the Constitution in the country, what are we building? Now we, now we're Germany. Now we're the Soviet Union under Stalin. Now we fucking Saddam Hussein and Iraq. What are we doing, America? Yeah, no, I hear that.

And don't get me wrong. I definitely hear like the totalitarian. I don't want the fat admirals in generals. Yeah, I mean, we're not... Yeah, I don't want no fat admirals in general. No fat... That is... That's the one thing Pete X-F said.

And there's one standard. It's not a men's and women's standard. It's just one standard. You can't have the strongest military in the world and not lift apart, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, no. No.

Napoleon was a little chunky. Yeah, but he wasn't fighting. These guys aren't fighting. And you want them to, I guess. I don't know, man. I just think there's a lot of things that are going on in America that are not normal. And if you just read a little bit,

I'm not the smartest person in the world. I'm not the highest grade of weed in the dispensary. But if you just read a little bit, in light of history throughout the world, you can see how this can easily happen in America and it's happening. Like nobody, they literally had a meeting and nobody, it's just like a, oh, okay. What? You're allowed to meet with your generals. This is not like, no, this was different, man.

You had to go watch it. You got to go watch it and listen to what they're basically asking them to do. Like, why do you want to send the military into Portland? So here's the thing. Obviously, they're doing this for like political reasons. Why? They're in power. The question that I have about this, and I mean this, genuinely, if people feel unsafe in their cities and their local governments are not doing anything about that, do you think that they are upset at Trump doing this? Or do you think that they're happy about it?

It depends who you ask. Like, you know, there's people in D.C. that you can talk to and they're like, in matter of fact, you even got to talk to the people in D.C. go talk to some of the military personnel that's in D.C. They'll tell you, I don't know what we're doing it. Forget what people are saying. Go talk to them. I've spoken to some of them. They don't know what they're doing in D.C.

They're like, why are we guarding this restaurant downtown? You know what I'm saying? Why do we need to go into Portland? Like, no, I hear that. And Mundani wins? Yeah. Woo! No, I think the opposite.

They're going to be marching up and down the streets in New York City. I think the opposite. I think that if Moundani wins, Trump is going to hope that the city burns so that he can use as a political... No, no, no, no. I agree with you. But there's going to be some strategic chaos.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. He already said, I'm cutting the federal budget in New York. Which is horrible. They're going to put the military here. You wasn't here last week when the Secret Service was stopping everybody and making you get out your car

and putting the gun and putting the dogs. Oh, because, you know, where we're at the radio station, that's right there with a UN meeting with that. Oh, because the UN. Oh, that shit was crazy. Yeah, yeah. Oh, it was...

It was... I mean, it was... The weirdest thing about that, though, Secret Service, y'all never search us. You make us get out the car and you run the dogs and everything and you're going to the hood and you go into Trump, but you don't search us to people.

That is weird. I thought that was strange. I don't know if it was, you know, I mean, of course there was a couple that's like, oh, Charlamagne, what's up? So maybe it was me, I don't know, but I just thought it was weird that I don't even get, at least get a pat down,

you're not going to let the dog sniff my butt, my balls, and I just thought that was a little, just a little strange. That is a little weird. It's a little strange. If I went through the Secret Service checkpoint a couple of times, I'm like, I'm like, oh, they're just searching the cost.

I just keep whatever I got on it. On me. That's what I would be thinking if I was a criminal. Yeah. You know? But I don't know, man. I just think it's some strange times, bro. I don't know.

Let's pay some bills, Chris. Come back. Let's talk about some bad bunny at the soup bowl and... Yeah. A couple other things. We got some church announcements. Show to you what we got. Sorry, hold on.

What you eating? Sorry. Hey, you ain't ate some soft screlle you? I'm all jet lag. Everything's all backwards. Um, church announcements. Oh, I'm going to be in, um, Dubai, October 7th. After that, going to the Riyadh Comedy Festival.

Which is getting mad controversy. A lot of controversy. I just want to say, I want to go there before the festival. October 11th, fifth annual Mental Welfth Expo was happening in Newark, New Jersey at the Joelle and Diane Bloom event center home. me make sure I got that right. Joel and Diane Bloom. Yes, wellness and event center in Newark, New Jersey. Some of the best mental health professionals in the country will be there. Debbie Brown, Dr. Rita Walker, Elliott Connie, Jason Wilson, Deonté Wilde is going to be there. Queen of Food is going

to be there. And it's a free event from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. go to Mental Wealthexpo.com to register to get in. You don't have to register to get in. You know what I mean? You could just pull up, but, you know, we recommend that you register. because it's the free event. So, you know, a lot of people like to come to the Mental Welfth Expo. So we'll see you October 11th. Now, look to Jake Paul, too, man. I don't think Jake Paul gets enough credit for...

For knowing how to finesse a bag? Yes, but those MVP fights are really good. I went to Serrano and Taylor at the Garden. Phenomenal. It was a very... It was just a very well-put-together event. That shit was dope. It was exciting.

Like, I'm a guy that goes to a lot of boxing matches. We go to boxing matches at the garden before. Outside of the fights, there's nothing really entertaining about the environment in the atmosphere. He creates an environment in an atmosphere that just feels electric as soon as you walk in. Yes. I mean, come on, man. Jake doesn't get enough credit, bro. Jake does not get enough credit, bro.

Shultz, let's be honest. Jake Paul did a card of all women boxing. And it was exciting. Where are all these, like, woke outlets that are, why aren't they saying, look at this guy who is championing, women in a sport that, for most part, nobody really got a fuck about women's boxing. Getting them their biggest paydays? Biggest payday. Getting them their biggest audiences.

Put them on Netflix. Netflix would not be doing shit like that if it wasn't for Jake Paul. Like, where is his credit? Listen. We only give credit to certain people. I meant to salute him after I came back from the fight. But I just was reminded of it when I saw the most valuable promotions, he does a phenomenal job with MVP, bro.

You got to give Jake a lot of credit. I hope that Jake continues to be able to put together these type of stuff. stellar fights. And the thing I liked about the women card, he didn't have to be involved in it. Yeah, he wasn't fighting on it at all. Now, what I would love to see him do, and I'm pretty sure it might be like this on the tank card, just to make sure those undercar fights are great. Yeah, make them entertain. This is what boxing always fucks up. And it's like, because you've got to pay the main event so much, there's no money for anybody else. But like, you know, throw a few dollars at the next like three fights so that we have something really engaging to watch for,

you know, two hours. Right. It's herky. If, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, If Turkey and Jake Paul ever come together to do some type of boxing event, because that's going to be the next thing, right? The next thing isn't going to be just the Jake Paul, Tank is the main event. It's going to be the Jake Paul and Tank, but then it might be, you know, Canello and Benavide, like, real fight. You know what I'm not saying? I'm not saying that tank, and Jake Paul is not a real fight, but, like, actual boxers

versus boxes. Like, it's going to be a thing where it's going to be, like, a combination of everything. Because, you know, I don't think, like, Jake Paul would have to, like, really go on a real run of knocking out a bunch of different boxes that ever really get taken serious as a boxer? I think he's serious now. I think he's more, I think he's still more of a spectacle. No, no, it is spectacle.

Without a doubt. But boxing at its highest has always been spectra. It's like one of the biggest fights ever is Floyd versus Connor McGregor. Yeah, yeah. So it's like, but I think he's taken serious in that you can't just be someone who's never, like you have, even boxers. like because of the weight advantage I don't love the tank fight because of the weight advantage personally

and also the big gloves so I think they were wearing 12 ounce gloves I think maybe they brought it back down to 10th but like Jake Paul Canello would have been good that to me To me it's like okay Jake now you really And also Canello just lost So now we believe that it might be possible

Yeah I am No I mean listen it's it's interesting I just wanted to salute to Jake salute the MVP Let's pay some oh yo Mayor Adams You know Mayor Adams did to us what he did to y'all on Flagrant? What he do? Remember when he came on Flagrant? He said, I'm definitely running.

As a Democrat. As a Democrat. He told you, I'm definitely running this Democrat. I'm not going to be independent, but next day he became independent. He did the exact same thing to Us Show. Came to the breakfast club on a Thursday. The first question out the gate, everybody says you dropping out the race, Mayor Adams. What's up?

I asked him that question about five or six different ways. What do you say? He was like, my answer is going to be the same every time. We're staying in this race, blah, blah, blah. Three days later on a Sunday. He drops out the goddamn race. You know the question that everybody keeps asking, are you dropping out of the Merrill race?

And you know what? I answered that 101 times. I said, no, I'm not. They said, Eric, they keep telling me you're dropping out. Our goal is to finish this race. You know, over the past weekend, you didn't attend any public events while a lot of the rivals were out campaigning

and people used that to fuel more speculation that you're preparing to drop out. So how do you respond to that? Sixth, Mother of Charlemagne, no matter what I said, They did it anyway. So listen, you're polling in fourth place right now. Yeah.

What makes you think you can still win? What I must do in these campaigns is I need my money. Do you donate to your campaign? Eric Adams, 2025. Three days later. Despite all we've achieved, I cannot continue my re-election campaign. What did they promise them? He's hosting the comedy festival.

No, for real. He had this week to be ambassador Saudi Arabia. He might be the promoter in this comedy festival. He's going to have a hookah lounge over there.

That's racist, though. That's racist, that's racist, I don't think it is, actually. That's racist. Yo, Stilwell said, I saw,

I saw Stilwell on the news yesterday. Stillwell said, the next billionaire that calls him, he's recording the call. Who's Stillwell? Curtis Stillwell, the guy, he's a guardian angel, right? Oh, Silwell.

Oh, Silwell, what I said? Silwa. Ria Silwell. What's his? What's his name? Sliwa. Sliwa. Curtis Slewa.

Curtis Sleewell said the next billionaire that calls him and offers him millions to drop out he's recording the call. Yeah. He said they're offering him millions to drop out. He's a principal guy. Like this is a different dude. So like you're better off not trying to bribe him. You know, you're better off not trying to bribe him.

I don't think Cuomo can do it, man. I don't think Cuomo can do it. You don't think you beat Mondehani? No. Because he's not offering anything. Stability would be the argument. Yeah, but like to whom? Like, Chris, I don't know if you rent in the city.

Do you rent in the city? I do. Okay. Do you have rent control? No. If the McDonny can't freeze the rent. No, no, no, no. Well, I think he can do a freeze.

I don't think that he can do like a temporary freeze. But like, it doesn't matter. The cost of living, and I'm someone who has money. Yeah, it's outrageous. The cost to living in this city is fucking unbelievable. I think about it every day, trust me. Bro, I'm literally, and I was talking a friend of mine, but because like, if you have like a family, like you need like three bedrooms or something like that. You can't go anywhere.

You can't move. Bro. It's, there's no possibilities for anything. It's just stuck. And here's the thing, especially if it's like, if we're talking about three or four bedrooms or something like that, right? I forget about it. During COVID, anybody who had money bought a place because the loans were. were at 2% the mortgage rates, right?

So you're getting a place for free. Right. Okay? You're basically getting a place for free. I fucked up. We all fucked up, right? Because we didn't know what the hell was happening in the world. So you get this 2% of loan.

So all these people got these 2% loans and they're doing interest only. So they're probably like seven years or 10 year interest only loans, right? So they're just sitting on all these properties. And that's one reason why there's no liquidity in the market is because people are sitting on these properties. That's why the rental market is so crazy is because they have, a loan that is free basically for them to live.

But come 2027 or 28, all these mortgages are going to go from 2% to fucking 6%. And you're to see somebody's carry go from $100,000. They were all adjustable. They had arms. They have IOs, right? They have insurance only, right? So it's not like a 30-year arm. What they do is they just pay the interest.

Interest. I mean, that was the thing in New York was always you buy a studio and then you start to outgrow it. and the value goes up, let's say, 5%, hypothetically. Then you buy the one bedroom with the difference that you've made. And then you just keep going up the ladder. And there's a tax loop over. They're just going to Jersey to buy a fucking house.

You can't go to Jersey right now. Yeah, you should have went years ago. Y'all was here. Real estate is outrageous everywhere. There's nowhere in the country right now. But New York is like ground zero for it. No, I'm with you. It's funny when people tell you how much your house is worth now

because it's just like, well, who can buy it? Who can buy it? Okay, but on the flip. Who can buy it? They've built, I saw, I forgot how many years it was, let's say two years. They've built 12,000 new units in Brooklyn alone, right? You would think at a certain point, there would be so much new supply that the prices would come down.

They're still going up. So who's buying these things? Rich people in hopes that, rich people are buying them in bulk in hopes that, you know, people come and buy them and rent them up. Because there's no way that regular everyday people that are, you know, making, you know, working class wages are buying them fucking a bunch of money. apartments in Brooklyn. There's no way, bro. I don't know where people live. I don't know how they live. I don't know who can afford it. Like, how many people can afford it? That's, we have, what,

eight million people in this city? How, is everybody a millionaire? Like, I think a lot of it's coming internationally. Saudi. Do we need these festivals? We need them. Saudi Arabia. Let's pay some bills, man, and then come back and wrap this thing up with some asking idiots and a couple other news stories. You see that the Kardashians are suing Ray J. for defamation? Whoa. Yeah, the Kardashians are suing Ray J. for defamation. Can't bite the hand that feeds you.

The reason I bought it up is because, you know, last week, Ray J. said that he was working with, let me read the headline. Yeah, Kim Kardashian and Chris Jenner sued Ray Jee for defamation. accuse him of reckless disregard for the truth. Oh, here, yeah. Yes, Alex Sparrow, the attorney for Kardashian and Jen to tell people in the statement that Ray J's allegations left him no choice

but to file a lawsuit. And the allegation was Ray J. regarding claims he made about them allegedly being under investigation for racketeering. Now, let me tell you the difference between radio, television, podcasting, screaming, and everything else.

Ray J said this, I believe, on, I think he alluded to it on the TMZ, at TMZ's Tooby documentary, United States versus Sean Combs. And go back to that, Chris? You had the line right there. He said, if you told me the Kardashians was being charged with Rakarian, I might believe it. That's what he said.

And then I think there was another scream that came out lately where he said he was working with the FBI on a RICO against the Kardashians. listen, I don't know what's true and what's not true. I just know that when you say things, you got to prove it. You can't just be talking nowadays. And I don't know why people don't realize that yet. That is why I love growing up in the radio world because of FCC rules and regulations.

I know that I can't just be saying things. We reported that story last week and got a legal letter. Whoa. From Alex Spiro. We report. We report, all we do was report what Ray J was alleged. No sides taking, no, nothing. We just reported it, right?

I actually said during the report, you know, we got to stop throwing the word Rico around so loosely. Everything can't be labeled a Rico. Because that's what they do now. Everything, oh, that's a Rico, that's a Rico, everything can't be a Rico. And we got a legal letter basically saying like, this isn't true. And where the breakfast club, we're not supposed to amplify that. So you can be, you know, a YouTuber, you know, a podcaster, and say these things,

and you may get away with it for a while until somebody gets on your motherfucking bumper or you get on the person's radar and they'd be like, oh, oh, yeah, let's sue them. See what's happening with Candace Owens. What's happening? Well, she got sued by the people in France, right? Are they following through with that? Hell, yeah, they following through with that, right? And you've heard stories of podcasts, Cardi B, got awarded four million.

not seen a YouTube or $4 million, you know, because of defamation. So my point is, man, you, this is the difference between being a radio personality and just one of these people with a platform talking on the internet are talking on the podcast who don't understand the rules and regulations. By the way, this can still happen to us. You know what I mean? But it probably is more than likely to happen to us because of the magnitude of the show. But nowadays, because you've got people who are,

Like a Ray J who's a celebrity who when they say something, that shit really, really travels, you're going to end up in situations like this. And so now you've got to fight the Kardashians and the defamation lawsuit. Now you've got to hire an attorney. You know what I'm saying? And maybe he does have some proof of what he's alleged. I don't know. I'm just simply saying if you're going to make a, I guess, let me say what I'm saying.

If you're Ray J and you're going to make an allegation like that, you got to come with it. Hmm. Can't flirt with it. Say no jab, jab, jab, jab, jab, jab. You gotta go. You gotta come like, hey, I'm doing X, Y, and Z and these are the reasons why. You can't even wait on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They didn't wait. They let Ray J say what he said. They're like, yeah, we're not waiting on nothing. Bomber. Wow. Bomber. Maybe they're doing that to send a message, too, like to anybody else who tries. I mean, sometimes you got to do that.

If people are making, you know, those kind of allegations, here's the thing. some people got time and some people got a whole lot of money to spend. You know, most of the time it just comes down to time. It's like, you really want to sue this person for some shit that's not impacting you in no way, shape, or form. But what's happening now is that a lot of these things are impacting folks. Like, you see people getting, there's actual real world consequences for these rumors that people are just, you know, throwing out there. Because to the point we were making earlier about things being so fragmented, folks just never know. You hear something online, you don't know if it's real now.

Well, damn, I heard this online about said individual. I don't know if it's true or not. Maybe we should just stay away or, you know, maybe just wait and see what that is, right? You understand what I'm saying? 100%. Yeah. So I get why they would do it. Interesting.

I get why they would do it, because you could say anything now today. Let's do some asking idiots, man. You can get the . I'm really happy to see you, man. Man, I'm happy to see you. I'm not even joking, but I really, really miss you. I miss you, bro. Tell me, tell me, this is great to you.

I love to hear that stuff. It was so much good shit going on. I know. I don't know. My God, it's cool to talk about it with other people, but it's different with us. Yeah, I know. I know. And it was a lot of shit.

A lot of shit. A lot. A lot. I feel like we didn't even scratch the surface. Like, I feel like there's still a lot that happens. No, it is. It is. But, I mean, we're here.

Yeah, yeah, we get it back. Jojo Buscura says, how does a blind person, and knowing to stop wiping after taking the shit. Yo, I thought this. I thought this about, because it happened once. Like, I walked, I was in a comedy show, and I walked into the bathroom, and it was one of those lights that goes off with motion.

Oh, man. And I walked in, and the second I walked in, the light came on, and I just heard someone from the stall go, thank God. Because they must have been in there shitting, and then have no clue have no clue when they were done white things.

That is the worst feeling in the world. We got one of them shit at eye heart, bro. I ain't going to say what floor is on. I'd be thinking that the woman at the desk be fucking with me. Why? Because this shit just started happening. I've been working in for 15 years.

And now all of a sudden that shit cuts off. And when you're on the toilet, you be doing shit like, like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you don't want to stand up. I did a Bobby Smurter one time threw my fucking hat. You know what I'm saying? I turn the fucking lights on, man.

Like, yo, that shit is impossible to do, bro. How does a blind person know when to stop wiping after taking a shit? I know. I don't know, Jojo. That is one of the things that we never talk about with blind people that is probably excruciating for them, yo. Yeah. Because they got to go extra just to make sure.

So they're probably bloody. I need one of our blind brain listeners to explain that to me. Because I really don't know. And that motion light in the bathroom is what really makes me not, I don't know what y'all do, yo. He said, thank God. Man, when you're in a public restroom, you got to really watch you say, yo. I walked into the movie theater bathroom at the AMC to go take a piss, and there was a guy in there taking a shit.

And when I walked in to pee, I wasn't talking to nothing. I just walked in and I'm peeing and all of it. And I just hit a dude on the toilet go, George. George. I mean, he recognized as stream, bro. He recognized that stream. George.

And I'm just sitting there like, what a strange thing to say? why you shitting. And I didn't answer them. I was like, I refused to answer. I refused this and be like, it's not your. I didn't want to be like, no.

No. Jesus Christ. Geomad X says, is comedy something that can be taught and learned? Or you have to be born with it. Ooh. I think joke writing you can learn. But I think like just being naturally funny

is something that you have. It's not you're born with, but like you're, you just learn through life. Is natural funny comedy, though? No, it's not stand-up, but it is like, if you're naturally funny, you can do stand-up. You can turn it in the comedy.

You can turn it in. Yeah, I feel like... But there are people who are not naturally funny that can learn how to, like, write jokes. There's, like, a math equation with jokes. I feel like comedy is a business. Ooh. Yeah, comedy is a business, and it's a skill set.

So it's kind of like being a street fighter, if you're naturally funny, but then turning that street fighting into actual boxing or MMA. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's great. How about this? Because I was thinking about this myself the other day, is being funny a sign of intelligence.

Hell yeah. Right? I think with some people, hell yeah. I think there's some people that are dumb, and that's what makes them funny. You know? I think you can be funny if you're truly dumb.

It depends, because some people aren't trying to be funny, but they're funny. They're just dumb. A lot of the comedians that I really enjoy are some of the most intellectual. Yes. With comedians they tend to be, I think. Chris Rock, George Carlin, shows, Dave Chappelle, like these guys are, when you even just sitting in conversation, Marlon Wayne, just sit down and have a conversation with Marlon Wayne.

Kevin Hart, that's why they give the best interviews. Yeah, yeah. Like, they're just very smart. Like, they're just, they are actually smart. And I think that they have a level of intelligence that a lot of politicians wish to because it is an intelligence that taps into society. Yeah. It's a societal intelligence, yes.

Social and emotional intelligence. To observe. Yeah. Observe. To know what people are feeling and know what people are going through. Like, that's different to me. So yeah. King underscore D-71.

Ooh, did y'all like Marvel zombies? I thought it was dope. It was incredible. I didn't watch it. What is Marvel zombies? What is that? It's a new cartoon on, it's on, uh, it's on Marvel's I'm on Disney Plus.

Oh. It's only four episodes. Oh, I thought it was incredible. Especially that last episode, fucking, um, like, who is it? Who is it? It's, I mean, not everybody, but like, a lot of different superheroes. It's just like, it's like the zombie apocalypse and some of the superheroes turning the zombies.

Oh, it's fan fucking fast. Oh, wow. It's one of them things, like, get high. Like, I watched it. I was on an edible Friday night and that shit was over-stimulating me. It was just like, oh shit. Like, because the graphics and the way it's animated, but then the storyline, like, that shit was, yes, I I enjoyed Marvel zombies a whole lot, King D-E71.

I don't know what happened at the end, though. I would like to know what happened at the end. Like, I want to know if, I don't want to give it away, but you know what I'm talking about. With Kamala, I want to know what happened. Was that the real world or was that all an illusion? I don't know. I don't know.

Underscore Taps underscore says, who would you rather have for president now? 2016 Bernie or John Stewart. Whoa. Do you mean run for president? Oh, have. Who would we rather have right now? John.

I'm going John, too. Bernie. Yeah, this is no, like, insults. I love John Stewart, but. I, yeah, I think John, I think John, because, I think John because I think John might be a little bit more centrist than Bernie in terms of, like Bernie

I love Bernie for this reason but he is kind of radical on certain things But he's also a bit of a known quantity where My only concern with John Stewart is how much are we projecting onto him Yeah That we would want I think John Stewart would look at this and probably say

2016 Bernie Yeah, I don't know He would definitely call for Bernie But you know sometimes you look at people And you see something in them That they may not see in themselves I don't care with nobody's there John Stewart should be in somebody's office

John Stewart should be governor in New Jersey or something can run for press something. John Stewart is, because his ideas are so big, you know, the way he's able to communicate with people, that way he's able to build bridges. We've seen him actually get legislation passed with his words. You know what I'm saying?

Actually go out there and put pressure on them to do the right thing to pass this legislation for the firefighters in 9-11 with his words. Like, listen, I like Bernie, too. You know what, though? I would probably pick Bernie. Just to just to, just to, because, This question is kind of confusing because you're saying,

who would you rather have for president right now? If I wanted for president right now, it would be 2016 Bernie. If you asked me who would I want to compete to win in 2020? Granted, we have a free and fair election. It would be John Stewart.

You know? So this question is a little tricky. Let's do two more, man. What else we got? Charlie Baxiano, how long before they have an AI president? They have won the last. administration.

Right? I mean, maybe. If he was AI, wouldn't they have had him talk a little cleaner? That's a good point. I don't think we'll ever have an AI president. But I think AI will play a massive role in, like, decision-making. So it might not be, like, the president, but if it's curating the ideas of the president, is it not the president?

I think we'll have an AI human hybrid president at some point in life, you know, because that's right around the corner where you all right. I keep telling you, I read this book, man, techno futileism, how technofutalism. Oh, yeah. Watch it? That was a book. I mean, sorry, yeah, have you read it? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think that, you know, a lot of this stuff is, you know, it's more in the near future than it is, you know, far away. Like, you know, there's going to be the nora links in people's brains. Like, you know, it's going to be the people who are, like, even now, they got the glasses right now that you can put on and freaking, me and you could be debating, and I could just be rolling off facts and a teleprompter in my glasses, right? Like, it's like a lot of this stuff

is right there. And Duval asked this question a while ago, and it's true, like, would you get it to compete? Because if you got to go out here with all of these fucking comics that got Norrelink and all of this shit like that

and, like, what do you do? What do you do as an author, Chris? When these motherfuckers is out here with the norahling shit in their mind and they writing... Well, it comes back to the comedy question, Right? Can AI duplicate comedy?

No. Not yet. They can't write jokes. But eventually we'll be able to. The kind of like cat skill two-liner math equation types you're talking about? Yes, you're going to be able to do those. Let's ask chat. Give me a joke.

Give me something. Well, give me a premise. Give me a premise. Let's ask Chad GBT. Ask chat to GvT to write a joke about AI taking over the world. Okay. Let's see. Write a joke about AI taking over the world

and having access to male to booty holes everywhere. Hold on. Let's give it a little razzle bag. Let's see what it says. OK, Jesus Christ, let's just say, OK, here's one in that wild Charlemagne style lane. Yeah, that was you. Oh, yeah, you can ask him to.

write the joke in different ways. How old I said it was write a joke about AI taking over the world and having access to male booty holes everywhere. Yeah, but it knows you. Everybody's scared about AI taking over the world, man. Y'all worried about the wrong thing. Forget robots stealing your jobs. Wait until ChatGPT gets Wi-Fi access to your booty hole history.

Alexa, already listening to your conversations. Next thing you know, Siri, going to be like, based on your last three searches, you might want to stretch first. Yo, that's pretty good. That's, that's, that's, that's. That's got donkey the day. Ran all over it. My God.

What? Then it says, want me to punch it up into a full donkey of the day style bit? Yeah. With a moral at the end. Is this your first time using chat, GBT? No, but God damn.

Yeah. You think his nose is me? Yeah. I got to reach my search history then. I'd be asking this shit some wild shit. What the fuck? I'm asking Chad GPT some wild shit, bro. God, damn.

Let me tell Chad, this is not me. Hey, I just want you to know. This is not Charlaman to God. This is not Charlemagne the God. See what it says. Got you. Oh, shit. What is it?

Got you. Appreciate you saying that. I know you're you, and I'll keep it straight with no mix-ups. Want me to run back another version of that AI. takeover joke, just regular stand-up style without the Charlemagne spin? Yeah. Oh, yes. Charlemagne using ChatGBTVT for the first time. It's amazing.

Yes, please. Cool. Here's clean stand-up style take. People keep saying AI is going to take over the world. Honestly, I'm not scared of robots controlling the nukes. I'm scared of them controlling the Wi-Fi. Imagine an AI with access to everybody's search history and personal booty hole data. That's not world domination. That's just world humiliation. We won't be fighting SkyNet. We'll be fighting shame net. Yeah, it's not there yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not as far

as I'd hope. Yeah. No, it will be there. That is opener at Carolines. I've seen those. By the way, those are my favorite still. Those are the ones that don't hit. Those are the ones that don't hit and I'm just dying, laughing and everybody's like, what the fuck does he think is so funny?

There's nothing like watching a comedian-teller joke that Lans doesn't hit and they just got to scramble for what's next. Oh! Especially if they don't have no improv skills. Oh! Every time I see some of bomb, I think about you. I have the joy that you'd be getting if you were watching it.

One more, Chris. Ooh, this is a good one. We can end with this one. Oh, we've been talking about this all pod, kind of. They asked me, what... I'll scroll back up, Chris. What story do you hate that you two couldn't talk about together while Andrew was in our scray? I mean, it was a bunch of them.

Fucking shit. The president called me out. Fucking Charlie Furch shit. Like, it was a bunch of shit. The president's calling you. I was crazy. I really wish I was here for that Dane week, man. That week just seemed so fun.

It was fun. I mean, it was fun. It was fun. You know what I mean? It's just everything. And I'm not saying everything after the fact is not fun. It's just not serious. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? And it shouldn't be taking that serious. But it's just like, as serious as he's acting like it is, It's really not that serious, guys. Like, and, you know, just to watch everybody, Damon Dash is suing the breakfast club. No, he's not. No lawsuit has been presented.

I'm waiting on the chat, GPT, signed by him to come through. I haven't seen it yet, guys. All right, I don't know what to fucking tell you. All right. Scroll, I want to do this one. This one right here. The nostalgia one.

I like the nostalgia one, because this is interesting. What happens when nostalgia doesn't work anymore? We're getting close. I hope that doesn't happen until after this. Street Fighter movie comes out. Because you need nostalgia to sell it a movie. We need a little nostalgia.

What do you mean when you say is getting crows, Chris? Because I think this is like the first generation that isn't fully creating their own material that then they'll be able to look back on in 20 years. 20 years is generally the cycle for nostalgia, right? Yeah. It's kind of like sampling, right? Like when hip-hop, I think I've said this before in the show,

but when hip-hop started, it was great. They were sampling 50 years' worth of material. Then at a certain point, you run out of samples, right? But you haven't also been learning how to play the guitar and the bass and drumming, making your own music. I think this generation is kind of in a pattern of reacting to things instead of creating things at the same kind of cadence in the past. What's the nostalgia going to be in 20 years for this moment? Yeah, I think Chris is right. I would say that I don't think there's a time where nostalgia, there's a time, there's never going to be a time when nostalgia won't.

I guess Kaisana, would be nostalgia in 20 years. Yes, but when I say there's never going to be a time where nostalgia doesn't work, I think that right now you have people who don't have a respect for history. You know, I don't know why. When I was growing up, it felt like everything, there was a historical context to it. Everything. I don't know, I don't know why. It just seems like that growing up, I was thinking about this the other day.

Everything had a historical context to it. There was nothing I was learning. There was nothing I wasn't reading that didn't have a historical context. even so much so that you'd be reading certain things, they'd reference something from history, then you would go read about, you know, said history. That's why I used to love, I mean, I still love, the Ryan Holiday books, the Robert Greens,

because they would, you know, give us these lessons, but they would always be rooted in historical context. And for the moment that we're in right now, there is a lot of historical context of things. Like Chris put me on, the thing you were saying about 1960, about the shifting technology, I'm like, oh, that is true, right?

Like, this can't be something new. that we're experiencing. But I feel like we do live in an era that doesn't have any respect for history or they're not looking to history for things. I see that in my kids. And I push it.

I push the history. And they don't want it. They're not biting. They live on the surface for the most part because, I mean, I think we talked about this when you were gone, Andrew. I got a lot of inspiration from boredom.

I'm not having something right in front of me. I'm just sitting there and just like thinking about stuff and thinking about stuff and starting off one place. vending somewhere else. These kids aren't bored. Never for sure. They're on their phone just kind of like taking surface material,

surface material, surface material. And, you know, history is a deep dog, no matter where you're going in history. It's about, you know, maybe they'll go to a Wikipedia page, see the surface, and then back up to social media. Yeah. And they're not sticking. And I'm pushing it.

I'm promoting it. And also people don't remember what happened yesterday. Right. Like, everybody is such a prisoner at a moment. Like, there's things that I'll see happening. And I'm like, well, that's not what he said last week. Or that's not what that person did a year ago. Like, I can remember things.

And it's like, when you pull these things back from the past and then show them like, no, this person has a pattern. Like, look at this. And they're like, oh, my God. I'm like, but that just happened. How do y'all forget that just that quick? So five years ago, oh, forget about it. 10 years ago, please. Right now.

Right? That's what I'm saying. I got a phone call walking over here today. My daughter called me up from college. And she's like, I want to ask you about the government shutdown. And then like the five seconds she said that, I got so excited. I'm like, oh, she's calling me because she's curious about politics and what it means. And I was going to go into a whole thing.

And then she's like, because I'm flying to see my boyfriend this weekend. And I'm worried if the airports aren't going to work. She don't care. Exactly. No, no, no. You know, we forgot that there was a government shutdown in Trump. first term. Sure.

I mean, they do happen. They do happen, to be fair. That's what I'm saying. Like, but the fact that everybody, because I'm reading, I'm like, they said this hasn't happened in 15 years. I'm like, didn't this happen in Trump's first term? Oh, it did happen, right?

Maybe I'm lying. They happen from time to time. I mean, knock on wood, they always get resolved. But they say this is the first one in 15 years, but I'm like, didn't it happen in Trump's first term? Well, let me look. Guess what I'm about to ask? Yeah.

Yeah. When was the last time the government shut down. What was the last sign of government? December 20... She should say October 1st, 2025. Prior to that, the last shutdown

was from December 22nd, 2018, the January 25th, 2019, 35 days under the Trump administration. So where did that 15-year number come from? Well, this is... I just criticize people for going on Wikipedia, but here we are.

2013 government shutdown. But we just... But I'm saying, I don't know, man. But that's what I mean. I read that the last one happened 15 years ago, but this shit happened December 22nd, 2018? Nothing's true. Nothing's false, dude.

There is no truth. Well, you can get the truth here, man. Happy to have you back. Love you back, brother. Love you, love you, dogs. This is been great. See you, man. As always, if you listen to this podcast,

you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right to, it's the brilliant idiotist podcast.

Thank you for listening. Peace.