The Brilliant Idiots - Bye Bye Conspiracy

Episode Date: February 20, 2026

This week on The Brilliant Idiots, Charlamagne tha God and Andrew Schulz bounce from Epstein files, elite corruption, and why the ultra rich never face consequences… to aliens being real, conspiracy theories that aged way too well, and why nothing feels “crazy” anymore. They debate power, money, government cover-ups, and ask the real question: if everything’s rigged, why take anything seriously? It gets even more unhinged as they break down 90s boy band psy-ops, Netflix’s “gay hockey show,” fake maturity, farting as flirting, marriage vs. the streets, and why being immature might actually be great for your mental health. Somehow, all of this turns into a surprisingly thoughtful convo about love, accountability, protecting Black women, and what it really means to grow up... if that’s even the goal. ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: ⁠⁠https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots⁠⁠ Jess Hilarious - Til Death Do We Parent - ⁠Pre Order⁠ 2Chainz - The Voice in my head is God - ⁠⁠Pre Order⁠⁠ The Black Family Who Built America - Cheryl McKissack Daniel -⁠⁠Order Link⁠⁠ Uncommon Favor - Dawn Staley - ⁠⁠Order Link⁠⁠ Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks- By Charlamagne Tha God - ⁠⁠Order Link⁠⁠ Check out Andrew Schulz - ⁠⁠www.theandrewschulz.com⁠⁠ Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" - ⁠⁠https://blackeffect.com⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yep, Shalamanaga guy. Andrew Shult. We are the brilliant idiots podcast back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Hed-Bram-Bram-Bram-Ber-Ber-Ber-Ber-Ber-Han-Hanthew. What's up, man? How are you doing? How was your weekend, sir? How was your week?

Man, good. Good. Anything fun? You know what? Sager from Breaking Points came in and he did this like whole Epstein breakdown for all the new files that have been dropped. And, um... Oh, I thought you was trying to get me, bro. Say again?

I thought you was trying to get me. Then I saw the video. What do you mean? I thought you were trying to get me, bro. No. I'm not going to say, Sogging these nuts in your mouth. Oh, dude.

His name is Sager? Sager. Yeah, Sager. What's his whole name? Sager and Jedy. Oh, okay, okay. Maybe I know the NJetty part. Yeah.

What was he br- I mean, I saw I didn't get a chance. You know you don't know that it. I do. I see him all the time on Flagrin. I did find something out. Where is he on? He's on a YouTube show, too.

Breaking points. Come on. Why you bail him out? But no, no, if it's a breakpoint on YouTube? Yes. Oh, okay, okay. You asked me something. I did find something out.

I found out that what a burger is the only fast food chain that starts with W. What the fuck does that mean? The only fast food chain that starts with W. They all start with different things, though. No, no, the letter W. It's the only one that starts with W. There's no other fast food chain that starts with W. Let me think about this.

Let me think. No. About the way, Willie Walker's, White Calf. Yeah, Willie Walker's Chocolate Factory. No. White Castle for sure. White Castle's not really. That's-

Yes, it is. It's one of the best best. I mean, I don't eat the shit no more, but because I'm a crystal guy. And also it gives me gas. Right. I remember one time, bro, we drove the New York City. Alex, why would you open your fucking mouth about it?

You are so stupid. It's unbelievable. Damn, no, no. See? Because if you- This guy's really, this guy's really retarded. There you get it rolling. I did it the other day.

So it's this one that went viral This guy's on like a ski lift and he goes Waterberg is the only fast food Jane that starts with W and the people going down the ski lift they go Wendy's. He goes Wendy's nuts at your mouth. Yeah. I wanted to get a start and he was going to say another one. He was going to get Wendy's. What bothers me is that I

couldn't remember Wendy's right off the top of my head are White Castle and have such fond memories of both. Wendy's, my grandmother used to love to go to Wendy's when I would take her to town. Why would he ruin it? She liked hot fries. He was on the cuss. He didn't have. I have none.

He wants my nuts in his mouth for himself. Hey, no. He didn't want you to get the opportunity to get these nuts in your mouth. He wanted that for himself, okay? Yo, White Castle, drove to New York City when I was young back in the day with my dad and his now wife. And we ate White Castle and I was letting it rip from the back seat 13 hours and lying every time. I said what? It was his wife.

I don't know who it was. Yeah, raccoon. You're just letting the silent ones go. but nobody wants to claim it because everybody was eating white castles so everybody was probably letting silent ones rip but didn't know where it was coming from that shit was great

and one of them hits so hard when one of them hits really hard you're not sure if everybody else smelled it so you'd be like god damn who was that I never think you guys aren't going to smell it when I let it go like I'm aware every single time you know it's a form of flirting

I think so It is. That's why I do. Like, why would you want another man to know how your ass smell? I think that because you want them to fuck it good. All right. Isn't that what you're trying to get at? Do you see what that motherfucker said on that video? He's heard that fart.

He's like, sounds like my size. Smells like my size. Right, squishy. I'm most likely well lubricated. Straight up. All you being public and you fart and somebody be like, huh? Sounds like my size is really. Sounds like my motherfucking size.

Better make sure that shit sound tight. I don't know. Maybe there's some guys that want like a bigger hole. Nah, them loose ones. Them loose ones attract the feds, bro.

Them loose ones make the motherfucking... The feds come over? Well, I mean, by feds, I mean dick. But you know what I'm saying. Like, that's what I mean. Wait, why are the fed's dick? I don't know.

I just said feds. Okay. I could think of an acronym. Fuck everything. Damn, sodomy. You know what I'm saying? What? See,

fuck every down syndrome I'm the dupy. Fornicate everyday dick sucker, right? Fornicate everyday dick sucker. Forever eternal dick sucker. Forever eternal dick sucker. That's good.

Boom. Boom. We got. See what I'm saying? We got it. That's what feds. You know, when the feds come knocking. For every dick swallower.

Ooh. I like that. I like that. That sounds like a Drake album. Damn, bro. Don't that sound like a Drake album? Can't he come back already? I'm just saying, don't it sound like a Drake album?

For all the dogs, for every dick sucker. Dick Swalower. Big Swalower. It's just so much crazy. You don't think so? Are you watching the gay hockey show yet? The gay hockey show. You haven't heard of the gay hockey show?

No. It's the real thing. It's like the biggest thing on Netflix right now. Didn't y'all do that already? What was that show? What was that show you all that back in the day? Ben. That's what I'm saying.

We did the first gay hockey show. Y'all did the first gay hockey show. Shout to Chrissy D, bro. We did the first gay hockey show. Everybody's copying us. We were gay before then. What's the gay hockey show? It's called, what is it called?

Puckfucks? No. Yo, on the way here, my home girl's like, when are you going to grow up? I said, I don't know. I really don't. I'm trying. You think I'm not trying here? He did rivalry.

Oh, man. Yeah. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Why do you need to grow up? Why do we need to grow up? Why don't fuck do we need to grow up, bro? Yeah.

That's when you got kids. No. Like being childish with your kids and when your kids are looking at you, like, aren't you supposed to be the adult? That shit is so fun, man. Being mature is for people who can't provide for their family. You got to mask that. You got to mask your inability to take care of your children and wife with, like, being responsible in public. No.

No. That shit is performative. You're trying to be a big person because you know what's underneath. We are taking care of our loved ones. Yes, man. By the glory of God, we are taking care of our loved ones. And honestly, man, being immature

is good for my mental health. It's good for everybody. It's good for everybody around you's mental health because it gives them the freedom to also be immature. Being yourself, just have a little fun. Talk a little shit. Say what's on your mind, man. How long can you be in a conversation

with someone who's pretending to be scared? Not long. Like, you know. need to break the wall, right? They actually get mad at me about that on like interviews and shit like that. Wait, why? Because I got, like, it's got to be like a joke every three minute minimum, something. Because why you get a little anxious being serious.

Yeah, man. Like, you know, just, and I'm cool with the serious conversation. Yeah. But also, there's really good moments in that serious conversation for jokes as well. Yes. So let's do it for the levity. I mean, the more, the more tense the situation is, the more ready for a laugh. Yes.

Because nothing's never that serious. Well, well. It's really not. Some things. Give me an example. Hockey. No. Epstein.

Epstein. What part of Estes? The kid fucking. Yes, that is crazy. What about the financial crimes? That's actually very small. That's minor compared to the minors that are in this. You know what I'm saying?

He's still made a joke. That's good. That's good, man. That's good. There's good. Bro. He tried to be serious. He was like, I'm going to give you a terrible thoughtful answer.

And the word minor hit his head. I couldn't help it. Pinball machines is going up. I couldn't fucking help it. Yeah. But. Neither could he. See what I'm saying?

Stop it, guys. We got to chill. But all jokes aside. Yeah. The financial crimes and shit like that is so, like, it doesn't even matter compared to, like, fucking children and the murders and everything. Yeah, I agree with you. But I think the financial crimes.

financial crimes are what is actually going to, I think it's going after the financial crimes are going to actually unearth what the whole thing is. I think that's because I think when like we were looking to all these emails and all these conversations and basically what you're seeing is that there's this, you know, group of incredibly wealthy and powerful people and the laws don't apply to them. And not only do they not apply to them when they're, you know, having sex with underage girls, but they don't apply to them when it comes to paying taxes. They don't apply to them when it comes to breaking the law and getting punished. How can the law apply to people who are making the laws?

Well, now you're talking. And funding the people who are making the law. Now you're talking. Now the thing that's frustrating, I imagine, for all of us, is you basically, you know, you see these people out there and it's like, man, they just, you know, continue to have all this success and they continue to have all this wealth. You continue to have everything. And the thought is you're like, what is going on?

Why can they have these opportunities? Why are they put in these positions? What the fuck is going on here? And they would like us to believe that they just work harder. You know, they would like us to believe that they're just going after it. no, what you're doing is rigging the system and you're taking advantage of everyday people. But don't you have to be,

hmm, don't you have to have a certain level of intelligence and have had to put in a certain level of work to get in position to be that high up the food chain that you can, you know, get an opportunity to rig the own system? Anybody can ace the test if you know the answers. And I think that the fact that they present themselves is if they don't have the answers. Like if you're a bank, right, like, and you get caught laundering money for rich people in America,

and you don't even have to pay the full price for the crime. Like, you can negotiate that down by talking to Epstein. And then what is it, Kathy Rumler? She was like the head lawyer for Goldman Sachs. And I think she was like the Obama's like White House chief deputy or something like that. Like they just help you negotiate the punishment down. You're basically communicating to that bank, right? This is a Swiss bank.

You're basically communicating them, hey, guys, you can. break the law, and then if we catch you, we'll just knock the fine down so it's not that. Yeah. So, and then that's the messaging that's constantly going on with this Epstein class of people. It's like they break the law, and then it gets pushed under the rug. Epstein's initial case breaks the law, 40 girls are coming out, and then they give them like this slap on the wrist, not even like really a pedophile charge. This is what happens.

It's crazy that he had to, wasn't he registered to the sex offender for a little while? For a little while. That's crazy. For a little while. Like, why is it a little while? Did you get over it? No, you get registered for that forever. And I do wonder.

I was thinking about this, too, right? The Warren Buffett's, the, um, the, the, the, who else is the richest people? And just Steve Jobs, even though he's deceased, God bless the dead. Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos. Not, but not Gates, because the age is in there. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm talking about the guys that are ultra wealthy who aren't in there. Oh, yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Like who? I just named them. You don't think Buffett's in there at all? No. they would have been out already. By the way, some people are listed in there for, which is also strange,

some people are listed in there just because they were being talked about. You know what I'm saying? Like in just regular email ways. Yeah, I don't like that shit. I don't like when people would be like, oh, this person was in the Epstein files. You're like, but when you go read what they did,

it was literally somebody just mentioning. They're talking about it. Yeah. No, no. In the Epstein files should mean you are interacting with Epstein, you're doing favors on behalf of Epstein, or you're asking Epstein for things.

Anything, if you were doing favors, for Epstein or doing things with Epstein after he was convicted. Especially after he's. If it's before he's convicted, we can at least give you the benefit of the doubt. We can go, okay, you're not looking up everything about this person.

You know that he's powerful. You know that he's wealthy and you want to connect with powerful wealthy people, right? Yes. After conviction... We got a magnifying glass on you. After conviction, we got a magnifying glass on you, okay? And of course, if you're asking for sexual favors

and asking for girls, it's just like, go on, come on, go. You should be cooked. Also, the people who said that they have... Also, you said that they have... had no contact with him. After the fact, and you found, like, Elon. Not only Elon Lutnik, Howard Lutnik, the Commerce Secretary, Trump's right-hand man

is behind him in every single video, said, went over at his house. He did this whole interview where he painted this picture. It's like, oh, he was so creepy and we never spoke to him again, find out that him and his family go to the island. Damn. He's the only one who brought his children to the island. Yeah, that's the one who went for lunch or some shit. Yeah, I was like, we don't care why you went there, what fucking meal you went?

He talked about the island like it was Magic City. I went for the wings. You know what I'm saying? Like what the fuck is going on, man? Yeah. It's interesting and I was really sitting back thinking this week. It's just like, what do conspiracy theorists have to even hang their hat on that? I mean, because you got Obama telling us aliens are real.

Man, they rolled out Obama. He's trying to be retired in Hawaii. They rolled them out and they said, tell them aliens are real. It's the second time he's done this. And you know what pissed me off about? that interviewer, he didn't fucking follow up. You just don't let Obama say aliens are real and you move on to the next subject. Like, you got to listen to what he said.

He said aliens are real. What do you mean aliens are real? Explain that. He explained it on his Instagram, though. What he said was the same thing that we've always said is that the universe is so big and there's so many different universes and galaxies that the chances of life are high. Duh. Like, I don't know why that's such a...

Yeah, I just saw the clip. So you're saying that he, that Obama, confirms that aliens are real. And then he just moves on to another. Yes, he asked him. I think the next follow-up question was, well, Obama said aliens are real. Then he explained that he's never seen any.

He don't think that they're in no underground lab somewhere. And then the next question... Did he... Oh, go, keep going on. The next question the interviewer asked was, what's the one thing you wanted to see soon as you got in the White House or something like that? Because I think they said it was a rapid fire around.

So he was just asking rapid fire questions at the end. But I don't give a fuck. President tells you aliens are real, bro. I need to see what's going on. I need, oh, is it? Is the clip? Are aliens real? Uh, they're real, but I haven't seen them and, and, and, uh, they're not being kept in, uh,

what is it? Area 51. Uh, there's no underground, uh, facility unless there's this enormous conspiracy and they, they hit it from the president of the United States. What was the first question you wanted answered when you became president? Uh, where are the aliens? We're the aliens. Brian Tyler Cohen podcast.

By the way, that could be it too. I think we keep acting like, you know, president in the United States of America means top of the food chain. You're here for four to eight years. We're not telling you everything. That's all I'm saying. As a civilian going on every podcast telling us all the secrets. That's all I'm saying.

That's all I'm saying, yo. Like you say, you're only here for a short time. Okay, we're the people that run this shit forever. All right? And we don't need y'all to know what the fuck is going on. Okay? That's good, man. That's hard-hitting journalism.

That's how you need to. approach these. Yeah, but you got to do a follow-up. And the thing is, are aliens real? Those are the questions we should be asking Obama right now. I asked Hillary that. I said, when you become president, when you let us know if aliens are real. And I forgot what her answer was, but that shit made every UFO site. Like, I went viral on UFO Twitter. Yeah, they love hearing that. E.T. Twitter? They know Twitter? I was super viral with that shit. I was super viral. If you become president, are you really going to tell the truth about UFOs? I have said, I want to open the files as much as we can.

But there are enough stories out there that I don't think everybody is just sitting, you know, in their kitchen making them up. But is that guy like a journalist or just like a podcast? Brian Tyler Cohen? I think he's a, I think he has a podcast or like a YouTube channel. He might be a journalist. I put, I don't disrespect nobody, no one. I don't know who's who in this face.

I mean, President Obama sitting down with him so clearly he got some real motion. Look up who Brian Tyler Cohen is. I don't want to disrespect that, man. Look at it. Look, let's look up who you is. Come on. The crazy thing about aliens, I've been saying this forever, man.

When you look at the earth and you look at the variety of life on earth, why would you expect all of these different galaxies and universes to be any different? And the arrogance of us American earthlings to always look at things from our perspective. Like I got a homeboy, who's my guy, Frosty, Frosty, know I love you.

Frosty, be like, do you know how long it would take to get to another planet? No, how long it would take us. We don't know what the fuck they got. They might got some Dr. Doom shit where they're just traveling from dimension to dimension like it's nothing. We don't know.

Brian Tallah Cohen is a prominent progressive political commentator podcast and author known for hosting No Lie with Brian Tala Cohen. He is widely viewed online. Media personality with over 10 million subscribers across platforms, often featuring high profile political figures. He's also an MSNB contributor. Oh, yeah, he lit. He lit.

He's a real journalist. We're the ones pretending. He's the people. He watches the New York Times shit. Like, why the fuck do you have those guys there? Fucking panel. Okay? What did that mean?

We didn't talk about aliens enough on that panel, dude. I think that's true. We didn't talk about aliens. We should have done that. Those are the questions you didn't ask. I tell Duvall that shit all the time. I'm like, why? Why do I just, why talk anything with sense?

Hey, bro. Like, I think I'm just about to go full-fledged, push-shishty, tin foil. Ten-foil, poo-oel, man. So like why? Listen, because there's nothing else to talk about. Epstein is there, aliens in air. Not that there's nothing else to talk about. But like, if you know that there's a group of global elites that are fucking children breaking the law left and right and that there is going to be no justice whatsoever for these people, why do we got to take shit serious?

Bro, they really. You know what I mean? Like, yo, take your shit up with them, man. We live in a world where they really out here grilling babies, bro. Whoa. Like they are. They feel, the veal.

You know what I'm saying? They taking baby legs and fucking putting them between buns and eating them shit like snacks, bro. I don't think they're doing that. All right.

You seen that video or the dude what's the dude named? What's Peter? Peter Atia? The, uh... It's either T or something

with an N. Oh, Peter Nygaard. Did you see what he's... Pull up the video where he's soliciting the fucking uh, parts from the black women.

It's a video. I'm like, this is not AI. Put Pete in the Guard parts from black women. Wow. He got sentenced to, really? Canadian fashion mogul. I don't know if that's him.

Scrollback. Sexual predator Peter Nygaert sends to 11 years for four counts of sexual assault. Let me pull up this. I just found out you got a search engine on Instagram. I'd be looking, man. My shit is crazy. Oh, really?

They finally figured that out, huh? I just got my algorithm back. Hold on. TikTok made them change the whole thing up. I think that's what happened. Hold on. And AI. Oh, no.

Yeah, Peter, isn't it Peter Nygarde? Yeah. Listen. Sam cell technology to P.R.I. investing in this called S-C-N-D, which takes the egg of the young, birth, woman specimen. Takes the A-E-A and takes out the nucleus and puts out the nucleus. It's going to figure out. A-Flight.

Huh? You're dealing with dark people. You're dealing with dark. The greatness that we don't see. You're dealing with dark. Dark people, bro. It's currently sexing black woman for math. He girls have a kind of about

non-offrey on this genetic perfection. Can I just say one thing? Why is this so far fetched for people to believe? We already know that there are people stealing other people's organs and selling them on the black market. Yeah. We know that that that happens for, fact, they're stealing kidneys, they'll kidnap you, drug you, and take body parts, right?

Like, that's not conspiracy. We know that that happens, right? Yeah. Okay. Why is it so crazy to believe that they would be doing any of this? It's right. This is a video. Peter Nygaard. And the guy got locked up. The Epstein associate attempting to purchase babies from black women saying whatever I bid, he's going outbid me. I'll buy 60,000 worth of eggs, umbilical cord, a placenta, even your period blood is so rich with stem cells. Well, I mean, they do. Oh, that's different. That's the adrenochrome stuff, right? Well, that's all so bad. You're taking baby blood.

No, yeah, I know. But I thought he was saying to eating actual babies. I mean... It's a little different. I mean, this is just... He just chooses to consume it a different way. It's crazy to think... Yeah, it's just like everything's on the table, bro.

Everything's back on the table. Literally. Everything's back on the table. We're not calling conspiracy theory. There is crazy anymore. You can't? No, everything's back on the table. You can't.

And that's literally what it boils down to. That's what I'm saying. Like, what do we... Why? This shit that I'm watching now was like too surfaced. I got to go back to behold the pale horse and everything

because I was I was ahead of the game. Give me some good. Give me a good conspiracy. That's what I'm saying. Give me something good. I mean, give me a good one.

Sawhosh is still there, bro. You don't like, you don't fuck with the squires. I don't worry about the animal conspiracies. Like flat earth and animal conspiracies is boring, I can't do the flat earth. Now, I will say, now some shit being over in Antarctica.

I like that one. Being behind the ice wall? I don't know about the ice wall. You saw the guy that escaped from the ice wall? No. Albino. Straight albino. Blonde.

Straight albino. Blonde hair, bro. You ain't seen the... Y'all ain't got to get up on my algorithm. Hold on. He looked just like Cron Don. Sluke to my guy. Yeah, shout on.

Hold on. You didn't see the guy who escaped from the ice wall? How long do albinos live, Al? Can you Google that? Like, what's the life expectancy for that one? Hold on. Guy. What you mean? Guy who escaped.

Y'all didn't see that shit, you? Typical albinism typically does not affect life expectancy. Oh, well, that's good. They just got to use a lot of sunscreen. So this country in Antarctica, what about it? How long has it been there? Why doesn't anybody know about this? Medellegothia is at least 10,000 years old.

Why do you know what? Now you don't want to believe? I thought you said everything was on the fucking table. Look, look, look. That's crying, bro. This is what's on the table is things that affect power structures. People will do anything for power money. That's now what I believe.

There's nothing that I don't think people will do for power money. If you could tell me that like, if you can grind up the albinos in some way when they, you know, possess certain powers, et cetera, then I could maybe believe it. What if those people behind the ice wall? Yeah. are behind the ice wall because that's exactly what they might use them for. You understand what I'm saying?

Yeah. Like, there might be something that there might be some power that the people behind the ice wall give them. So let's keep them away from all of society and only us elite

secret society people know about it. Every now and then we go behind the ice wall to power up. You know what I mean? Like, cheers for cancer could be behind that shit. Like, oh, by the way,

we ain't even talk about that. What? In the past couple of weeks through all of this shit, How many cures for cancer that have popped out? Oh, that's a great conspiracy. How many cures of cancer popped out? The United States leaves the world health organization.

This is the conspiracy. The United States pulls out of the World Health Organization, the WHO or whatever. And immediately cancer treatments just start popping up. So then the conspiracy is that the U.S. has been applying pressure to keep these cures for cancer down so that the pharmaceutical companies that make money selling drugs of people that have cancer. You didn't see this shit? No.

This is real. Major. Yes. This shit is so minor. But to me, that's, the reason why that's interesting is that it plays into power, dynamics, and wealth. Like, what horrible things were human beings willing to do in order to enrich themselves, even at the cost other people? We said it on this podcast months ago. You're gay.

I don't even think that's cool anymore. Yo, low-key. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, that ain't even, I need to be something else. Yeah, I hear you, dude. You know what I'm saying? Like, gay is normal. Yeah.

Like, y'all don't think. You got to be a day them. That's normal, too. That's old. That shit was so trendy. Yeah. People fell on. They stopped doing that.

The days don't even say that. Yeah, they don't. Because it's too hard. Yeah. It's too hard to even, like who all. It's like watching pluribus. What they doing? Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Like, what, what them doing? We them over here. We day over here. I love day. You know what I mean? Do you love day? What are you talking about?

It is, it is more difficult to speak like that. It's ice wall language. They said the person came from behind the ice wall was speaking a different language. That is a different language, you know. That is a different language. All of these shit seem corny. Alex just, what did you Google?

Top 10 conspiracies? Yeah. It's corny. Moon landing hoax. 9-11 Inside Job, obviously. By the way, moon landing hoax, definitely obviously. They made a whole movie about it. That's another great conspiracy theory.

You don't think that we got there? We definitely got to the world. Nah, nah. I think we got there. I just think that we re-taped some of the, the scenes from the landing. You've seen that movie with Channing Tatum and Scholar Johansson? Take Me to the Moon?

There's a fucking movie. I watched it on the plane. Channing Tatum and Scarlett Johansson is called Take Me to the Moon. I think they made it over the last few years. That's literally what it's about. How America just wanted to beat, I believe, Russia to the moon. They wanted to bankrupt Russia. That's the idea. Yes. So we made Russia feel like, yo, we're going to get to the moon. So they just spend all this money

when in reality that wasn't what we were. Now, in the movie, they do both. They send somebody to the moon, but just in they don't get there. They videotape it home. They have this whole fake moon landing thing. Yeah. Because they were live streaming it,

which is kind of crazy for the 60s. And somebody convinces Channing Tatum. No, man. Like, you really, if you're going to do it, you've got to really do it. So they ended up really putting it on there. And it's better that they did

because the hoax shit fucked up, like a cat ran through the shit. Oh, it was just dumb. But they ended up going to the moon. I don't believe the moon. I believe the story that I heard about the moon a long time ago that they went up there

and something told them, Y'all need to get the fuck back. Y'all ain't ready for what's up here. Really? Yes, sir. Wow. Yes, sir. Now, they also say it's a McDonald's on the moon.

Have you heard that? No. You didn't hear that. But that's a true story. Remember when the McDonald's mascot used to be the fucking moon, man? No. You don't remember when the McDonald's mascot used to be the moon, man? Used to be the Crescent Moon with the shades?

I do remember. Yes. What the fuck you think that came from, yo? People don't have this type of imagination. All of these movies that we see this movie that we're talking about, take me to the moon right now. That's not imagination. Can you look at conspiracy theories that have proven to be true or valid?

This would be kind of interesting. That's a good one. That's a good one right there. By the way, that whole list, damn it has been proven true. They had the COVID shit up there. I saw the COVID one up there, which is really funny. We didn't get any apologies for that, by the way. We're owed some apologies for that.

What are the top conspiracies that have been proven to be right? Oh, yeah. MK Ultra, the CIA ran mind control experiments from the U.S. and Canadian citizens using LSD and other methods declassified the 1970s. They're doing that shit right now through edibles. Cointel Pro. Oh, absolutely. Cointel Pro still exists right now. All of you motherfuck, Tomah, let's stay here for a second.

Cointel Pro exists right now. A bunch of you motherfucking bloggers that are getting paid to spread false narratives about people. Y'all are Cointel Pro and don't even know it. You know, think about this. The Tuskegee Syphilist study. The U.S. government knowingly left black men untreated for syphilis to study disease progression. They admitted in 1972. You know for a fact there was people in the 1960s going, the government is giving black people syphilis and not curing them on purpose.

And they would look like absolute lunatic. They would be clown. Like, motherfucker, motherfucker. Like, motherfucker, you just wanted to hit that shit raw. Raw. Right. It's not fucking raw. It's not the government is you.

Not wearing a condom, motherfucker. 100%. Watergate scandal. Nixon's administration covered up. illegal political espionage led to his resignation in 1974. Operation Northwoods declassified documents showed the Pentagon proposed staging fake terror attacks to justify war with Cuba, never executed but documented. They still doing that to this day. False flags.

To this date. Wow. It is date. Big tobacco cover up. Tobacco companies hit internal research proving cigarettes caused cancer confirmed through lawsuits in the 1990s. Right now, replace big tobacco with. big social media, big tech, big tech cover up. Social media platforms doing to y'all exactly what tobacco did to y'all in the 90s,

just as addictive fucking your brains up to where they're ultimately fucked up your lungs. In 20 years, people are going to look back and back. Hold on, hold on. You're saying they let three-year-old kids scroll social media for eight hours a day. Endlessly. By the way, it's people winning those lawsuits right now. I believe you. If people suing for mental health issues and anxiety issues and they're winning those lawsuits right.

fucking Iran contrafear. The U.S. secretly sold weapons to Iran. Oh, you skipped one. Oh, my bet. What is it? Oh, NSA mass surveillance. The U.S. government was secretly collecting massive amounts of phone and internet data revealed by Edward Stone in 2013. And now we're giving it up. By the way, now we give it up. We go on these apps. We click the terms and conditions that we don't even motherfucking read. And we wondering why our AI likeness going to be out here sucking Cox and you got to prove it's not you. You know what, Why? You know what it is funny? Why? You know what it is? I'm getting ahead of a video.

Yeah, you got it. Yeah, you're getting ahead for sure. I'm getting ahead of a video out. Don't worry about it. You know, it's not me if you see me sucking a cock. Now it really seemed like this video out there you suck. I'm fucking around. No, no, no, no, you stamped it.

Yeah. Somebody going to make the air. Somebody going to make the air. video, then go back to this, see? Yeah. See? Yep. But it is funny that, like, the U.S. was stealing our data when all they needed to do is make it fun. Yeah.

Like, they were so stupid. Like, just make a game that we like, and then we'll just give you all our data willingly. They did. They did. We've given it up. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok. We don't ever click on them terms and conditions. By the way, we don't know what we owe these people. One day somebody might come knocking at your door. Placenta. The fage.

I need the placenta. Now, I need that dicks up. Charla? Charlotte. Come on, son. We're supposed to believe that you haven't watched the gay hockey show. We are supposed to sit here and believe that you haven't closed your mouth, bro. This guy got veneers and everything.

I know right. You want the doorway to look good. Listen, listen, listen, guys. Listen, I need y'all to understand something. We're not serious to have most conversations. You know, somebody said the funniest shit about us on this. Hold on. They said,

they said, we're like the Peanuts gang with no filter. Hold on, you didn't see this shit and they made us cartoons. They made you, the dude with the blanket. It made me Charlie Brown. Hold on.

Where the fuck is this shit at? Oh, here it go. Said, getting some real good grief vibes from this week's episode. I don't know what the fuck he's talking about. He said, watching Andrew and Charlemagne on the Brewerin that is feels less like a podcast

and more like watching a lost episode of the Peanuts Gang if they grew up, move to the city, and lost their filters. Andrew's definitely out here giving off big, messy-haired Linus energy,

and we all know Shalaman would be the one to pull the football away at the last second. Yeah. Like, what the fuck? We are washed. I don't know what that means.

If that's what it means, cool, go back to the fucking... Yeah, we're not done with the experience. He's out. I'm not bad. My bad. I kind of shut this shit there.

Iran-Contraffaire, the U.S. secretly sold weapons to Iran and funding Nick-Icaragran rebels despite congratulations. You know, Charlotte short-circuited. Yo, plug him back in.

Plug-shall it back in, yo. Like Trinidad James. Listen, listen. Proving to be true. Okay. What was dude's name? Oliver North, right? I'm not falling for it.

Yeah, it was Oliver North. Oliver Twist. Oh, shut up. It was Oliver North. Y'all don't remember who, you know, y'all remember Oliver North? I think so. What you mean, you think so?

He was the fucking main character of this shit. All of... Wasn't Epstein involved with the Iran contract? I think he comes into power around that time. Really? Why? Or basically what they say is that there's this thing called like the church committee where a lot of these things that are admitted

came from the church committee. Basically, they wanted transparency for nefarious acts that the government was doing within the country and around the world. And once the government now had to disclose the things that they were doing, they needed to find these intermediaries. that they could trust to do the things.

It's not like the government was like, oh, you caught us. We're not going to affect the world anymore. And so they need to find guys like Epstein and just a handful of other people. And they became intermediaries to do this stuff, to watch the money, to launder the money, to get the money to these other countries.

How do you get chosen for that shit? Well, maybe you're groomed for it. Maybe you're fucking groomed for it. You know? And then you spend the rest of your life grooming. That's crazy. All of a North. With the central figure in the 1980s, Iran-Contra affair,

he secretly orchestrated the illegal sale of weapons to Iran, the secure hostages, the secure hostage releases and diverted proceeds to fund the Nicaragran contra rebels violating the Boland Amendment, or Boland. FBI surveillance of subversive artists. Musicians and actors were monitored during the Cold War, files later released under FOIA. Freedom of Information Act. Oh, yeah.

I wanted to monitor for what, though. Well, you know what they said is, you know, Jackson Pollock, the painter that just did these like weird, I don't know what the type of art it was called, but they said that the CIA propped it up as a Cold War tactic to like show how like free and liberated America was. Look at the art

that we produced, do all this other cooky, crazy shit, so. Why did we... But other artists are they doing that too? But listen, why did we sweep under the rug that Praj was a spy? Crazy, right? Like nobody ever just thinks about that? From where, though?

China, right? Weird. Praz from... The Fuji's. He's in prison. Hold on. Praz. For being a Chinese spy?

Let me make sure I'm saying that's correct. I remember him getting locked up. Yeah, Praz was sentenced to 14 years in prison for his role in a massive multi-year foreign influence scheme. He was convicted of acting as an unregistered agent of China conspiring to defraud the U.S.

government witness tampering and money laundering. Oh, shit. Oh, I think wasn't that the time when China was trying to get people to buy property here. They were trying to offshore them. I don't know what it was for. But I'm just saying the fact that stuff like that happened and it's just like on to the next. Well, what you're going to do, move countries?

No, but I'm going to say, if that's worthy of more of a conversation? No, of course. We should. I guess what just happens is like when the government, when the country is doing the bad thing, we don't really have much choice. We have to hold them accountable. And if they're the people in power, then what the fuck are we going to do? But you know what I mean?

Like what is the recourse when the government and the most powerful people that don't have to abide by any of the rules that they create are doing bad shit? Yeah, but what do we do? But if Praz was an unregistered agent of China, Praz, all he gave us was ghetto superstar. And he was the third member of the Fuji. So imagine what some of these bigger artists are. What do you think N-Sync and Backstreet Boys are? No, don't do that.

This is a sci-op to gay up the men. It works. You know, it's the sigh of the gay... Tell you something? Why do you ever thinks about this? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. When Andrew Schultz is cooking, you got to let him cook. Come on.

You think bye, bye, bye was about greetings? Not about greetings? You think bye, bye, bye, bye was about greetings. No. I guarantee you you can see the spite and fluidity amongst men after that song. 100%. Their impact, it's a sciop. They're putting in your brain.

You're bisexual. You're bisexual. You're bisexual. I bet you started thinking about painting your nails around that time. Of course you did. Of course you did. It was that. What year was that?

That was like 2000. The Backstreet Boys. Who? That's your generation. I got it. I know. I was a, my frontal cortex was fully developed. You know their manager got locked up, right?

Oh, yeah. See what I'm saying? Come on, bro. This is all a sci up. They're attacking men in this country, bro. these other countries are spending billions and billions of dollars to gay up the men in this country. Buy. Bye.

I'm telling it. It is strange. You know, I can't. It is true. You don't have to learn. But in 10 years, when all of this shit comes out, just like with the FDFIS, you'd be like, damn, they told me. You were the guy that didn't believe that they were giving black dudes syphilis in Tuskegee. You see what I'm saying?

You see what I'm saying? Is it that far fetch? Is it that far fetch? Every one of these boy groups, they all a little bit sweet. Back street. Boys. So are y'all gay? Say it backwards.

Say it backwards. Say it backwards. Boys street. Boy street. You see what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying? You got to say that's like fucking that's street meat, bro.

That's when you fucking just walk was on the street. And that boy is right there $60 off the street. What were the other bands? 98 degrees. See what I'm saying? That's the temperature you got to have it at. Do you know what the temperature? Do you know what the temperature comes?

Look that up. Look up the temperature of cum. I guarantee you the temperature of come. Look up the temperature at home right now. Look up. Look up, what is the temperature of semen? What temperature do you need to survive? There we go.

What temperature do you needed to survive? Oh, shit. Go, go, go, go. Right on the money. Exactly. Between the exact. Oh, shit. Yep.

93.2 degrees Fahrenheit. They had to put it up five more degrees because it would have been too obvious. Yeah, but. Now, sperm production requires a temperature lowered and the core body temperature, typically around 93.2 degrees. No, go down, go down. Optimal production testicles are ideally kept. 32 degrees Celsius, 34 degrees cells, 89.6.

Shit. It was 98 degrees. Alex, you ain't walked. Alex, I can't add it up. Add it up. Eight, do the math, plus nine, plus six, plus 93, minus seven or five, 98. pull up the boy boy

How many guys were at 98 degrees I think mine was at about 20 God I think I was frozen My mom was like the albinos in our art God damn God damn Pull up the name of the boy bands

There's something to this bro I'm telling you It was a saya All time great boy bands Bro we already We already proved motherfucking instinct with the bye bye bye bye shit

And they do it right now with the Korean pop bands All those guys are too handsome To be only guys Holy shit Holy shit Holy shit Keep going down

Wow Wow Justin I'm not I'm not making jokes Boys two men New kids on the block New kids on the block What do you think they did

What do you think they said Every time they bought a new crop to the island New kids on the block Yes No y'all not fucking you not Paying attention Alex We're not woke They bring the boys

To the men Wow Keep going down Watch more. I mean, it's crazy how off you see this. Boyzone? I don't even heard of them. Oh, no.

That is, boy zone is crazy. Now, I know that was a special part of the aisle. That's all I'm saying. This is, Alex, open your fucking third eye, man. Pay your fucking tension. Yo, this shit is crazy and all of this shit will be exposed. Think about it. NSYNC.

It's short for in sync. Mm. Who's the sink? Mm. Hmm. Who's the sink? are, are, that's where you clean the body parts in the sink. You got to do it in the sink.

Y'all really don't. Y'all really don't. That's what they called the Tuskegee conspiracy theorists back in the day. They called him dumb and then what happened? What happens? Syphilis. You'll learn for everybody. How do you guys know this?

Because we're looking at you, bro. You got painted tails and opinions. You're definitely a backscree boy. You are a whole backstreet boy This is the sci-up, bro This is the sci-up It's working on you. Look how I'm sitting.

Look at your nails. Look how I'm sitting. It's worked on us, obviously. You're a back street boy. Charlotte was just a minute and a sucking dick A whole episode. It worked on all of us. We've all been compromised.

Bye, bye, bye, bye. Why they always got to do their head like this? Why does the shit got to start like this? Because there's multiple dicks coming out. You got to get them all. You know what I'm saying? It's a party, it's a party, it does look like they be sucking dicks, bro. Any choreography from a boy band in the 90s, Dodger Lodger was big.

That manager was crazy. And then they're like, they're jerking them? They jerking them? When you find out your favorite 90s boy band was Dick Dodgers. No, they weren't crazy. Yeah. Great. It worked for them, though. They blew the fuck up. But they're still dealing with the repercussions of that name. They are. They are. You're absolutely right.

You know, survive the trauma. Hey, man. Hey, man. What's the guy's name? Justin Timberlake, man. The guy's suffering right now. God damn. You got a DUI and a place where you could walk everywhere. My guy. Justin, yo, by the way. You just walk. Why do you got to call out, Justin? By the way. No, shout out Justin. Let them live. Justin. Think about even his last name.

Timber? A tree in something wet. A fucking tree fell in something wet, bro. A tree fell in something wet, yeah. Yep. Inks, timber lake. And that fucking... Boom!

The wood is falling on you. The wood is falling. A wood in the lake, bro. Come on y'all. What's the lake made out of? What's the lake made out of? Timber Lake is crazy. Wood is fell in something wet is crazy.

crazy. Justin, I fuck with Justin. I fuck with Justin, but I'm gonna tell you something. When we, when we write, we write. Okay? It is what it is. Yo, did Usher win? Usher won that, right? Usher won. Remember there was like a little battle between Usher and Justin Timberlick back in the day and Usher used to always be like cut it out? We're not on the same level, blah, blah, blah, this and that. Like, I would say Usher won. Yeah, Usher had a whole complete career resurgence. I mean, even back then, Usher was smoking shit. I mean, he was diamond. I think they both had a major. I think they both had a amazing success in their careers.

Yeah, but I was just still going. Despite having to deal with trauma at a young age because of these siops. Why wouldn't Timberlake go to Vegas, bro? Because, man. You don't get to go to Vegas unless you're... Damn. Unless you make it out. Vegas means you made it out.

Hmm. Think he still old's? Say again? You think he's still old? I don't know what you said. You think he's still owes? You think he still owes? Yeah.

I mean... When you make a deal with the devil. Damn. Did Justin make a... There's only one way out. That's blood and blood out, bro. Damn. That's blood and blood out.

He sacrificed Janet at the Super Bowl. Sacrifice Britney, too. Oh, yeah, Britney too. You know what, man? That Super Bowl moment was so overblown. Like, we owe Janet Jackson like reparations for that shit, bro. No. Come on, a titty.

But in that day, that was crazy. It was a covered-up titty. It was a covered up titty, man. We didn't see a nipple. It had a nipple ring on it. Bad Bunny had way more ass shaking and way more flesh on it. Shout out the bunny, bro. You know what I'm saying?

Janet just had a titty with a star. 20 years later. Yeah, but that's how it starts. They started with the titty there, right? They get you, they open you up with that titty. They desensitize you to that sexualization at a young age. Yes. And now 20 years later.

I treat that the way I treat legal marijuana now. Like, if you got to say, state where you got people doing federal sentences, like long, big long time, like, you know, for marijuana. But the state you're in has made, like, say they're locked up in, like,

Michigan, right? I know exactly where you're going. You're California. You're locked up for a state charge, right? Yeah, you're locked up for a state charge, but they've made it legal. You know what I'm saying? I'm not, I'm wrong. You're locked up for a federal charge, but they've made it legal in your state. So you're locked up for a

federal charge of marijuana, but they've made it legal in the state you're in. So the freedom guys, man. Freedom guys, man. A hundred percent. Like now you look at Jed Janet, you had a titty reveal and we crucify her for that? Crucified her. And she didn't even rip it out. She actually could have me too, Justin, now that we, if we really want to be on it. We all thought. How different a time was this? An innocent black woman gets her clothes ripped off. In front of a million. In front of millions. Hundreds of millions. And you know who we punish? We punish the black.

Whoa. Holy fucking shit. We need to start protecting black women. Holy shit. We need to start protecting black women. Holy shit. That's what we've been doing this episode. Holy shit.

That's what we've been doing this episode. Holy shit. Holy shit. Let's pay some bills, man. Let's pay some fucking bills. Yes, sir. Let's do some church announcement. Two chains, man.

The voice in my head is God. Hey. We'll be out March 3rd, 2006, man. And we're coming down to the wire right now, okay? If you are a two chains fan, if you love Two Chains' music, trust me when I tell you that this book right here is his most personal work yet. He's sharing his spiritual journey, the spiritual journey behind his success. And yeah, I think it's a deeply motivational meditation, I would call it.

And just about how, you know, the inner voice in your head that's guided you, your whole life, is God. You know, so go get my man, Two Chains book. You can pre-order it now wherever you buy a book, Two Chains, The voice in my head is God. Yes. So go get that. What else we got, Alex? All memes matter.

I haven't seen. Oh, Shaila Buff. What's up with Shailaboof, yo? He got, did he get arrested or something shit? Yeah, he's down at Mardi Gras, man. I feel sorry for Shia LaBouf because he got divorced. Oh, no. Yeah, he's 39 years old.

And I just heard all of this the day Lauren Lerosa was telling me. He got divorced. He's 39. years old. He moved down to New Orleans. And, you know, he's enjoying Marty Grae this week. But honestly, man, he just really looks like probably how I would look if I ever lost my wife. Oh, no. You know what I'm saying? Like, this shit is not fun, guys. Like, you know, I know y'all think being out in the streets and being outside is cool, but there's nothing like stability. There's nothing like a foundation. There's nothing like, you know, having a family, man.

Like, that's him on the ground. Yes. They beat him up. And then, like, Like held him there and wouldn't let him move. And sued him after they beat him up? They sued him? Then he's arrested in charge of battery. Barton said he was terrorizing the city. He says, damn, Shilabuff beating up in Mardi Gras fight, then arrested and charged the battery.

Barton said he was terrorizing the city. Why don't you go back and dig holes? Yeah, man. I'm telling y'all, yo, if you can. And they said after he got beat up, he went to jail. They said when he got out, he was back sitting in a bar. and he was telling the people in the bar like, man, you know, marriage is hard work. You got to figure it out, figure out how to make it work.

So that lets me know all I need to know. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. He's going through it. You got your listen. Hey, listen, man. There's nothing. Protect your home, man.

There's nothing like being in a marriage, bro. A good one. You got to have a good marriage, though. Yeah, good marriage takes work, too. Good marriage takes work. I'm not mad at him. You know, I don't know what the dynamics of his marriage was. I don't know why they're not together no more.

All I'm simply saying is once you end up getting divorced and you go back to the streets, you probably end up getting drunk and beat up in Marty, bro. Yeah, that's all I'm simply saying. You know, one day I was walking out the radio station, this was years ago. This was when we used to, the station used to be down in Tribeca, and I was walking at the radio station,

and, you know, people be down there jogging and shit like that. So this guy jogs by, and then this guy comes jogging back at me real fast, so security intervened, and it was shot. I remember you telling me it was shy And he said He wanted a rap for you

Or something like that Right No it wasn't a rap It wasn't a rap I mean I'm paraphrasing He just said something To the effect of like

I fuck with you You know Like You know You know That's it Shai is one of those guys That's woke

Shy Completely would understand The Boy Band Theory of the 90s How it's made guys Like Alex Gay Third Eyes

A hundred percent A hundred percent Females peeing While standing device. What are you studs up to now? You studs, y'all, y'all, y'all stop throwing the green dildos at the WNBA games. We never found out who the fuck the culprits were. How do we not know? They know every person that gets kicked out in the double NBA game? No, I'm pretty sure they found out. They found it. All of them? Because it was around the time all these prediction

markets were happening so then the guys will put up a thing, oh, I wonder if there's going to be another green dildo and then they put mad money on. Oh, so convenient to blame it on guys. Like guys walking around with scrap horns at WNBA games. Sure. You know what I mean? You know, like, we don't know, like, we don't know y'all have a big stud audience. Imagine, like, you planned on doing it, but you got, like, pulled over something before you get to the game. And now you just got to explain this dildo that's just in your car as you're going to a WMBA game.

You didn't see the video that DeWall posted or the person giving the speech, the stud giving the speech, and she didn't know she had her tildo in her pocket. Look at this shit, man. Life is so funny. That's why I don't even know why y'all try to get on stage and tell jokes. Like, y'all can't be. Beat real life, bro. You know what I'm saying?

You can't beat real life, bro. Open carry with a dildo is crazy. Open carry cock is crazy. You're just walking around with your scrap on your hip. But like hanging out of your bubble jacket. You know what I'm saying? She didn't even have it in a case or nothing. That could get dirty.

Like she's taking the subway, it can hit the pole. See, I would have loved to beat it. I'd have been like, you got plans after, huh? You know what I'm saying? What do you mean? or before, let me smell it. Like, the fact that is, by the way, the way she had the position, she just used it.

How many uses you think you get after out of a dilly? Oh, a lot. Like, do you keep your favor for years or is it like? A lot. That's like your favorite eater. Yeah, hell yeah. But does it groove? Like, do you warm it in?

I don't know. Like, like, do you wash it after ever used? Like, what is the- Yeah, it's like cleaning your gun. I wouldn't clean my gun every time I used it. You post, too. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, you got to clean your gun.

You got to clean your gun. I'm sure that they clean your, yeah, you clean your cock, your dildo. I figure it'd be more like a baseball mitt or something. Nah. Because you work up way more of an odor on the dildo than you do the fucking baseball. That's the thing. Like, does it capture the odor? Yes.

A scrap on? Oh, God. Come on, man. We got to get a stud on the show. We really need to talk to the show. Like, yo, serious, all jokes are all the brilliant idiots. listeners who are studs hit us up yo no homo podcast hit me up you know what i'm saying let me know how often do y'all um strap on then you have flame on breakfast spot yeah but she don't need a strap

no flame got a cock though oh yeah yeah flame flame flame flame is with women flame sleeps with women she's crushing box dude far as i don't get it all right flame said she over it she said i ain't fuck it with the trans shit no more. But how can you be over? That's what I said. I was like, just because you say you over it don't mean anything. You got titty. I'll get rid of these.

That's what she said. That's what she said, man. That's what she said. What else we got, Alex? What was the context of her saying? Does it matter? No. It does it?

I just need to know. I don't know. I really don't even remember. MJ is not that. What is they talk about? What are they trying to slander our boy? Just trying to help a little kid with some ice in his back, man.

Wild angle, though. Got to admit this was a wild angle. That's one of those things where it's just like you kind of let the kid have his ice in his back. You got to know, you got to have contact.

No, if that was your kid, it wouldn't be a problem. Yeah, it's not your kid. Exactly. It's just, the optics look crazy. You're the greatest basketball player of all time. One of the most iconic figures

that has ever walked the face of the earth. You just won the Daytona 500 as an owner because your God has just blessed you so much and you just out there looking like you fucking on the little kid? Yeah, it's not. Do we believe the ice story? Yes.

Yeah, out. First of all, you think Michael Jordan would be doing this at a time like this in front of the world to see this is completely innocent, bro? Cut it out. The same guy who had a Hitler must say. Like, he pushed the envelopes. I don't know what Alex just did, but I don't like it.

He's talking about those Haynes commercials where he used to have that. I still don't like it. Yeah. I don't like what he did. I don't know what you just did. Al, we need the blue square commercial from you immediately. You better come with blue nails next week, Al. Al, there are phone calls being made, Al.

There are phone calls being made. I didn't do it. It was M. What the fuck does the Hitler mustache got to do with what he was doing right there? I'm just saying he pushes the envelope. He goes to. against what you're supposed to be doing sometimes. This is not pushing the envelope.

If he's actually doing that to a child that's dittling a kid. I'm sick of y'all doing MJ's dirty. Y'all did the same thing to Michael Jackson. Why can't an MJ win, bro? You know what I'm saying? Why can't they just lead a peaceful life? Can we not, since all conspiracy theories are being revealed,

can we stop with the Michael Jackson was fucking molesting little kid? I know. It's bullshit. I don't think he did that. I know he did it. The man was monitored by the FBI for 17. Because he was monitored by the FBI for 17 years.

Okay? No, but we can't do this thing where we go conspiracy theorists are right and then all a sudden, oh, wait a minute, we know it's not right because... But it never was conspiracy theorist saying this about MJ. Yeah, it was. No, it wasn't. No, it was mainstream. It was mainstream.

Exactly. The conspiracy is actually he never did. And conspiracy theorists are always right. This man owned half of Sony publishing. You're going to go with that one? That's I'm telling you, Sony ATV publicity. This is a fact. That's why I can't wait until his movie come out,

and I hope his movie explores that. Because we always talk about these entertainers who, oh, Bill Cosby was about to buy NBC or this and I'm blah. No, that guy really had too much power for an artist. So they had to get him out of here? Hey, man. Hey, man. I'm just saying.

Who's they, Charlotte? I don't know who the fuck they is, but I don't know if you own half of Sony's publishing and you giving publishing back to the artist for nothing? Come on, man. Oh, no. Oh, no. Alex, trying to rouse it up.

Alex, you're a wild boy. I'm just saying. Alex, you're a wild boy. That happened. Alex just asked Chat GPPT was Michael Jackson about to put out a song about Palestine. Yes, back in 1993, Michael Jackson wrote an unreleased song called Palestine Don't Cry. That was attended for his history album but was never officially recorded a release. Only the lyrics survived in an auction.

Wow. Who bought it? Right. Look up. who bought it. Look up who bought it. I'm pretty sure he had allegations before that. No, they started right after that.

Look it up. When was the, when the first time, Michael, I don't believe that. When the, Michael bin the court for shit, like, when was the first time Michael Jackson had allegations? Julian's auction sent for about $10,000, but there's no public record of the buyer, who the buyer was. Oh, Jesus. Oh, Jesus. The first public child sexual abuse, see? Oh shit, 1993.

Nah, do the math, son. Nah. Do the math, do the math, people. Oh, damn, man. Charla. I got it.

I got one. Charla, we can't be the Tuskegee. Yeah, do the math. God, Tuskegee. You guys. It's crazy. You're crazy. This is crazy.

I mean, it is very close. It's very close. It's very close. This is crazy. What is it? here's my number call me baby oh me maybe god damn

what else we got out this shit got a little too hot this shit got a little too hot bro this shit got a little too hot right now what else we got a little too hot what else we got out what's learning the love Alex what's learning the love what is learning the love my guy oh

here we go social media is torn let me stop for us let me read the headline social media is torn after Clifton Powell says he is now learning the love at nearly 70, citing limited examples. Go back, let's hear it again. Just talking about I'm 70 years old. So I come from a whole other era than any of you Negroes is talking about.

And what I've learned, and I'm not saying I'm right, I think everybody is right. Because there's so many levels to this. But most of this was laid on our parents' parents' parents. My father was born in 1915, and his parents was slaved. Well, his grandparents were slaves. So what I've learned is it's not your mother's fault, it's not your father's fault. It's not your fault.

We were born into 450 years of post-slavery PTSD. I am 69, 70 in March. I've just learned how to love. Our parents don't know how to love. Their parents don't know how to love. And if I could say anybody maybe had an edge, it was the women. That's why I celebrate black women. I just want to talk about in Luke, should I say anything?

Drop this part out. Okay. What Luke brought up was like accountability. Like, yes, we can talk about, you know, what our families did to us, all this, all that. But eventually, and I know why people try to say this, and I really don't like that. But eventually it comes a point where you have to decide how do I want to live? my life. I've talked to my daddy in six years. I don't do a fuck about what my family has gone through. I know what I will go. So it's like, you know, you can only say that for so long.

Black women are tired and, you know, kind of like putting onto them like, hey, like, you didn't do this entirely because everybody in here, several people have talked about, like, you know, going to counseling. Have that upon yourself. Stop waiting for a woman to tell you what you need to do. Take that upon yourself. Let me just that. Let me just that. You know, quickly, for me, I didn't know that I didn't know. Can I say one more thing? No, no, no, I have to say this. Because another thing that happens is, too, you live your life for so long, and I'm not meaning no disrespect by this. But when you hit your 60s and your 70s, I want to be right. Okay, but let me.

I want to live my life right. I want someone to take care of me and protect me. That's what a lot of women have issues with. Because I'm living it right the fuck now. As I said, I said 60, good, but you're not going to disrespect me. Oh, I am. I just love it. I do.

You don't know what the fuck you talk about it. Oh, I know. You can't. I do. I do. I do. I'm good. You can't tell me what I'm living.

I'm living it right now. You cannot fix no. Did you even know what's happening? I think there's a misunderstanding. No, but he's generalized. Let me stop. Let's get to the truth. You can't fix no.

Unless you meet somebody who helps is on another level to help you elevate to understand. I'm not indicting anybody. I'm telling you what this is. You can't fix them that you don't know about, bro. Yeah. You can't. And then you get there at 69 and 70 and say, I thought I was being loving all this time. That's what our parents have gone through.

And that's why we're awesome. You asked, how do we love black women? That's right here. Trust black women. Listen, first of all, I got a number of thoughts. First of all, Clifton Power looks amazing to be almost 70 years old. God damn, I did not know Clifton Power was almost 70 years old. That's number one.

Number two, it's going to sound completely contradictory. I'm so sick of cameras and talking. Yeah. People can not have real honest, confidence. as long as cameras are rolling. Everybody's so performing. Exactly, man. Like, there's, Clifton Powell just, to me,

when I'm listening to him talking to beginning, I'm just like, damn, I want to learn more. I want to hear more, right? Because what he's saying is true, and that's his experience. And I got mad older men in my life. My daddy is one of them. You know what I'm saying?

Who would absolutely positively agree with Clifton Power. Or he would say that at some point in his life, you know, he had loved the way he wanted it and he fucked it up. You know what I'm saying? Even though he ended up, you know, getting married again, you know, he's got a new wife and everything. But my point is, how can you listen to him? Right?

And instead of just listening to that brother and listen to what he said and either learning something from what he said or offering him something, right? Which is, man, that's why therapy is so important, man. You know what I'm saying? That's why your first, last and best love is self. love, right? Like, that's why, you know, I'm blessed to be in the position that I'm in where I've done the work on myself at a young age and I have a beautiful wife and I have a beautiful kids because I don't want that at 70. I'm glad I know what love is and I've experienced love.

How do you not take that in and receive that, but then you start speaking for a demographic of people that you're not even? Oh, is he gay? No, I don't know what the other guy is, but I'm saying he started speaking for black women. There's no black women at this Right. How can he speak for what black women are feeling and experiencing to Clifton Powell in that moment? Why did that turn into that is what I'm saying? Yeah, I think he was also speaking for like people who are 60 and 70, which is I can't relate. All I can say to myself is, man, I'm glad that I've experienced love at a very young age. Yeah. Because I don't want to be 70 years old. And Clifton is saying he thought he knew what love was. But he's realizing, no, what I was doing clearly wasn't love. I don't know. I don't know. how that turns into a black women are tired. Like, you're not even a black woman. There's no black women at the table. What do you think he felt the need to defend right there?

I don't know. That's my point. I ain't even hear Clifton say anything about black women. And by the way, this is just the clip. So I don't know. But based off this clip, I didn't hear him saying anything about it. He's speaking from his personal experience and the fact that he has never, you know, properly known how to love.

Or maybe he never thought he experienced love the way that, you know, he should have. I don't understand why that was the reaction from the other guy. And I don't think it would have been a reaction like that if these cameras weren't around. If it was just Clifton and him having an OG the young man conversation, I don't think this guy acts like that. Like, when we're a regular talk, do I, let me say something. Let me say something.

Like, nobody talks like that in regular conversation, yo. Unless you arguing with you, won't. That's different. Women will never let you get away. Can I say something now? Can I say something? That was, that was, that was wilded. I didn't, I don't understand that.

Am I missing something? Think, uh, Backstreet Boys. What else we got? What else we got? What else we got? You want to do some asking. Let's do some asking idiots. Did we pay all the bills?

No, no. We got to do that one. asking idiots. Let's do some asking idiots. Oh, you know, we got to correct ourselves. Last week, I forgot what the hell we was talking about, but we were talking about something. And we said that Epstein got convicted under Obama. I got nothing under Obama.

I think Obama was in office, but the person appointed was... We said 08, though. Oh, 8, Obama wasn't in an office yet. He gets an office in 09. Oh, 9. Okay, so Alex Acosta was the person that did it. So, yes, it was under Bush. Under Bush.

Yeah. Yes. That is correct. Yes. Correction, because I saw Jake Tappell scorched this dude. Really? It was the same thing. Because the guy was like, who was when you got arrested, who was in office?

There was 08 and you said Obama and Jake Tappell? He was like, no. No, it was Bush. Yeah, I saw that correction. Like, shit. But remember, there was a plea deal that was struck in 2009. Way before I was in office, way before Trump was even considering to be in office, way before Pan Bonnie was office.

way before Cash Fettel was a director, 2009, there was a sweetheart plea deal that was made underneath the Obama administration with Hepstein. That's not right. That's not that. That sweetheart has not been exposed. It was 2000. Well, when was the case? It was 2008. It was the U.S. attorney at the time was a guy named Alex Acosta. He was a Bush appointee.

He went on to become President Trump's Secretary of Labor. It all took place in 2008. Who was in office at the time? 2008 George W. Bush was in office at the time. George W. Bush. No, 2009 is when the case came out and it was in, and Obama was in office at the time. It's not true. That was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was not put that on Obama's name here.

Jay Cole, uh, um, oh, wait, you know, did you like, do anybody here listen to Jay Cole album? I haven't finished. It's, it's kind of long. 24 songs. Yes, it is kind of long. Wow. It's, uh, what did you thought of it? I think that it's, um, I think it's, um, I think it's classic. classic J. Cole, meaning that, uh, like, I have nothing to dislike about J. Cole. Like, J. Cole is a good artist. I just don't, he's not, um, he's just not, he's just not he's just not Drake or Kendrick. And I know we shouldn't compare them. But when you're talking

about the greatest of a generation and you're talking about like elite level talent, he's a great rapper. He's just not an elite level artist like a Kendrick, and he's not an elite level songwriter like a Drake. He's not, I mean, honestly, when you talk about just music, he's not, he don't make, he don't make music as good as future. I'm just talking about songs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just talking about songs. Like, I think that his songs leave a lot to be desired. When he hits it, he hits it, like when you know a record like safety, right? But then even in a song like that, I don't need a Boosey sample in safety. I don't need Boosey sample. I don't need Boosey there, you want to start it off, you want to talk shit?

I don't need Jay Cole flipping other people hooks like J-Lo, Jenny from the block and shit like that. And I don't need to hear elevators in the middle of the song. Like his songwriting to me, his songwriting, when he creates the songs around whatever his bars are always leaves a lot to be desired to be. To me, this is like an older Kendrick album. Because Kendrick's last album was more, I would say, in the style of Drake, where it's like he's giving you a lot of hits on the album.

Which album, you're talking about? The very last one. GNX? Yeah. NX slaps. That's what I'm saying. It's like it's a lot of hits. Drake ain't never made nothing that good.

There's a lot of hits. But like older Kendrick albums were like a whole story. And you have to like follow it through the whole story. I feel like. With better songs though. True. But Jake Coles right now, it was like a nice story. But there's no really like slap it.

I don't really want to go back and listen to it again. I love that. I love that he leans into Fairville so heavy. Like I love when people represent where they're from. Like I love like how we love Bad Bunny for his Super Bowl show because he completely leaned into his Puerto Ricaness. It's the same thing with Jay Cole. I love him leaning into, you know, being from Fairville.

But it's just like 29 and 39 because, you know, one disc represents his life at 29, another represents it at 39. It's like, I've been hearing the same thing from him for like the last decade. Like we know you the first rapper out of Fairville. We know you left Fairbill to go to New York to become a rapper. We know you've had, you know, problems with infidelity, haven't we all as men? But once you hear that once or twice, it's like, you know what Jake O'Neese? He needs to do. He needs to do some deeper work on himself.

And I don't know the brother personally, but you can tell that Kendrick has done some deep, deep, deep soul, spiritual work on himself. You can tell he's done, you know, a lot of therapy and he has a different level of self-awareness and it reflects in his music, you know, like with Mr. Morale and the big step was, you know what I mean? Even on GNX, like it reflects in his music. You can hear the deep inner work that he's done with himself. That's what, I don't think Jay Cole has done that. I feel like a lot of his stuff still scratches the surface.

Like, he don't go deeper than just like the surface of who he is. To me, I don't feel that music always has to do that because Drake doesn't love to scratch the surface, but he still puts out songs that I want to replay over because it just sounds good. But this one, the mixtape he put out the week prior, was way better than the album. Yeah, because of the production. Yeah, because of the production and because- The way he's rapping on it. Yeah, you're hearing his thoughts now.

Like, I don't know. I have no reason to dislike Jay-Cole, and I don't like Jay-Cole. He's good. He's good. He's like, it's very ironic that he's driving around in a Honda right now. Because if I had to compare his rap's to something, it would be a Honda. A Honda's a good car. I've had two of them in my life.

Good car. Reliable. Reliable. A lot of longevity. Is he really driving around in a Honda? I mean, that's part of the promo. I mean, I don't know. But Honda's a great car.

Honda is a good car. There is nothing wrong with a Honda whatsoever. And Hondas have been around for a long time. It's the detested time. So will Jay Cole in his bars. But it's just, I'm telling you just something incomplete with the way he writes songs. Like, that's just that that's just it. But I mean, the album's cool.

I wish it was less than 24 songs. Yeah. I think 24 songs is a lot for Jay Cole. I think that there's a really classic album within that 24 songs. You know what I'm saying? Is it advantageous to put more songs on an album? I don't know. Maybe in this era of screaming.

I think it helps with screaming. But he doesn't seem like the type of artist that really like... Triced game streaming or anything. Yeah, that's interesting. I don't know. I haven't listened. I think he wanted to put out a double disc that was going to be a classic. and I think he might have missed them up.

He missed because there's too many songs. No, but a double disc, nobody's saying that about life after death. Because it's classic. But that's what I mean? Oh, you're right. I mean, but it's just, yeah, you're right. I just don't, I'm not a fan of Jay Cole's songwriting ability.

Whoever he was with with Forest Hill Drive had him writing great songs. That was, that's my thing. I didn't really hear that before Faris Hill Drive, and I've heard that, you know, ever so often after. That's all. Because he got some cool records on this project. He does features.

He smokes those shit. Yeah. I mean, shout out. The DJ Vlad thing. Uh-huh. What do you thought on that? See, here's my problem. I'm always, I pay too much attention. So, I've seen... This was so obviously sarcasm. I couldn't believe anybody took it serious.

But I've seen Vlad do this. So many people. Vlad has been doing this. Vlad has been doing this with Tory Lane's for Yee's. Since the Tory Lane should have, like after Torrey Lane got convicted and all the evidence came out, Vlad has been doing this to Torrey Lane's fans for years. And it's so obviously sarcasm.

Like, pull up some of the tweets, man, before we do some aspects. Is it maybe weird because Vlad will also post news as a source of news? So there are some people- But Vlad also trolls. I know this. I saw it and I was like, oh, this is hilarious. He's obviously being sarcastic. But are there some people that are seeing it and they want these things to be true?

That's exactly what it is, man. But don't do that. Don't risk your own credibility. By calling out Vlad or Vlad doing it? No. If you're a person who doesn't like Jay-Z, doesn't like Rock Nation. Ah, yes, yes. Don't risk your own credibility.

Agreed, agreed, agreed. Acting like what Vlad said is real. Yeah, it's like, come on, bro. Like, come on. Like, make that. Let me put these Dillon Shades on so I can read this. Okay, Vlad said I have a confession. Rognation has been paying me to support Megan.

Okay? All right. I'm just doing straight hypothetical hyperbole, you know, and what could be true and what couldn't be true. Number one, I know this isn't true. But this is a realistic one, right? Yeah. Rock Nation has been paying me to support Megan.

It's not true. I'm just saying if I was reading this. He opens up with it. He opens up with something that, okay, it could be true. They also paid off all the jury members, the convictory. Sure. Far-fetched, but more believable than what we're about to get to, right? And they bribed the judge, too. Jay-Z did a verse for his grandson's new album.

This right here is when you should realize, okay, he bullshit. Got it. There should be nothing else to read unless you're just reading for entertainment purposes. They paid off Megan's doctor to lie about the bullet fragments. She was never shot. Come on, my guys. That's like clear sarcasm. That L.A. police are all on Jay's payroll, and it doesn't stop with L.A., but you're not

ready to hear that part. Come on. That shit is hilarious. Come on, man. The Mexican guy who stabbed Torrey. Who do you think paid him to do that? You already know the answer. Yes, MAGA. Who else would want to frame a Mexican

at a time like this? You think Jay-Z would want to frame a Mexican? The three Supreme Court judges who denied Tori's appeal all paid off by the Rock Mafia. The fact, listen, don't get me wrong, Rock Nation gets a lot of paper. But come on, guys. Come on, man. Paying off three

Supreme Court judges type money. Jay also paid Trump not to pardon Tory even though it's a state case. Trump can only pardon federal cases. But knowing Trump likes to bend the rules, Jay wasn't taking any chances. I can't keep these lies secret anymore. If this is my last tweet, you know

who silenced me. I don't know what to tell you if you believe this. The very last line, I can't keep these lies secret. Hilarious. Hilarious. Hilarious. That's me when I say, trust me, even though I'm lying.

Shut up. Remember when we did that on the pod? 14 million views. 14 million views. People doing whole YouTube think pieces like, come on, man. Listen, don't ruin your own credibility just because you hate Jay Z and Rock Nation so much. Like, come on, bro. And by the way, once again, Vlad does this all the time.

I've seen Vlad troll, Tory fans and Tory supporters like this multiple times. I love a good troll, but I think it's in bad taste because. Because this is going to bring so much problems to Meg is going to be problems to Jay. Like just unnecessary noise that they don't need. Well, no. It's going to bring unnecessary problems to the people who continue to, you know, lie and spread these narratives. Right. Yeah.

That's who it's going to bring unnecessary problems. Meg wants to put this shit behind her. And now every time something like this happens, now she got to. All she got to do is turn her phone off. all you got to do is turn her phone off I promise you there's going to be more problems for the people who continue to lie and spread these false narratives

than it is the people that they're talking about you don't bark up that tree that tree will fall on you Ask an idiot underscore underscore if you can decide where your taxes go What infrastructure our department would you support? Fantastic question

Fantastic question I think about this all the time because literally that's what I would like to do. I have no problem paying my fair share taxes. You see your boy Mondani. Mondani is like, yo, the richies have got to pay their fair share taxes. We're going to have to increase the property taxes on people. But what will that effectively do? Hurt the people who are already hurting.

And he's aware of that. He knows that. But he can't control taxes because that's done up in Albany, which was always the criticism of, I think, part of his approach, at least, which is if you're promising a raise in taxes on the wealthiest people, but you don't have the ability to do it, how you generate the revenue you need to do these social programs that are incredibly appealing to so many New Yorkers. And the issue here is we're going to raise property taxes.

So the initial thought is, well, rich people own property, so that's just going to punish them, and most people are okay with that. The problem is that anybody who owns property and rents it out, if they get an increase in their property tax, that will be reflected in the rent. Yes. And again, he can freeze rent for rent-stabilize units, but that's only half the units in the city.

So then the other half are going to, if he is even able to freeze the rents, because I don't know if he has like all the people on the board just yet that allow him to do it. I think that I think they tried to like stack the board before Adams got out. Two people in right. Right. So it's a very tricky situation where, and this happens to politicians where like you can make, you know, promises on the way in and want to deliver those promises. but then when you're hit with the bureaucracy in front of you,

you aren't able to execute those things. And people will be very upset. I imagine if they voted for him because they wanted rent to decrease, and now they're seeing an increase is the only way to balance the budget. Yeah, I didn't like that. I didn't like, you know, Governor Hoko had been said

that she wasn't going to tax the rich. My thing is, just because the rich don't want to pay their fair share in taxes, that doesn't mean that you should increase people's property tax, bro. Especially because where's all this money going from all these tolls and shit like that? All this congestion pricing and all of this shit like that. Like, where's all that money going? Even the money that they're making fucking parking tickets and fines and all of that shit. You can't sit here and tell me that the city of New York isn't making so much fucking extra cash that they got to fucking increase people's property tax?

This is the thing. This is the balance of budget. This is not even to enact the social programs that he wants to put in place. Oh, I thought those social programs are included in the budget. No. Like, this is just to balance the budget that's coming in 2020. The pre-existing budget? Yeah.

But it's like, how about, how about, you know, cut some of these bloated budgets that we have in the city, like, to the police force? I've always said the reason. That's the problem. Once you start cutting money from other people, like now you're creating enemies. The last thing you want to do is cut the police force right now. I ain't say cut the police force. I say cut the budget. And I'll tell you why, the money ain't going into police officers' pockets.

If you told me right now that that money, those hundreds of millions of dollars that they spend, the militarized these police departments was going into police officers' pockets. If you were going to increase the salary of police officers, by all means, do your thing. That's not happening. Well, what do you think is going to happen if they cut the budget? Exactly. That the money will be cut from the police officers. Naturally. Yeah.

Cut the budget. Fucking police officers don't need tanks in New York City. You don't want new... You don't need robots in New York. You don't want New York... You're not wrong, but you don't want... You don't want New York City to not be a safe place. New York is safe.

You don't need... Well, because it has an incredibly high budget for the police force. Most of the stuff they have, they don't even use. Jarla, I'm telling you, during... I'd rather the money going to police officer pockets. Well, I think that's a nice... During all the time when everybody was riding and all that type of stuff and everybody was saying, fuck NYPD.

NYPD went on about like two months of just not enforcing the law. And then they said immediately... Once again, I'm glad you said that. Two months are not enforcing the law. They just stopped. They didn't need robot dogs. But that's not what it's about.

They just stop. All I'm saying is you don't have to spend all of that money on unnecessary stuff for the police officers. If you're telling me that you're increasing the salaries of police, I ain't got no problem with it. But militarizing the police, buying all of this shit that they don't even fucking need? Those are the bloated budgets. You're not wrong, but they'll say like, oh, shit, they cut the budget over time and we got to cut overtime. We got to stop hiring freeze. So you're saying this right here is not including the programs that he has. Not yet. He's not

trying to do those yet. The only one he's trying to do is the, uh... They care? They care. And that got to prove. That got a proof. But he already found a way to balance that. You know what that he put things into effect. One of the doperest things that he used to say before he was a campaigner for me. I don't even know if he was running for me when he would say this. When he would say he would say he would say don't, he would say he would say defund the police,

which I'd never agreed with that statement. But he would say refund. So he was like, he would say it's not about defunding police. It's about refunding social services. Meaning putting money into these social. Absolutely. Yeah, but you have to understand. Absolutely.

If there's a person that has mental health issues on the street and that person is acting in a violent manner, you don't want a mental health professional going there. You want someone that actually has tactical training on how to deal with a violent person. No, I want both. Well, yes, you could have both. But the person that is there and restraining that person should be able to deal with violent people. They shouldn't be like a social worker who's like, tell me about your feelings. A social worker is going to be very helpful. And don't get me wrong, I think that far too often we're putting people who have mental health issues.

under the jurisdiction of police. I think police... Shouldn't criminalize mental health issues. Of course, of course. Now, if people are doing criminal acts, we have to find a place to put them, right? We have to find a place to put them where they're not in danger

to other people around them. They might not be aware of what they're doing. Of course. Not jail. No, of course, of course. I think there is... I get the problem that I'm trying to say here is that, like, far too often,

police are the, like, the last stop. So it's like the end-all, be-all for all the problems, right? If you have a crazy person on the street that has a knife and is trying to stab people, right, they're like, okay, police go get it. If there's a cat in a tree, police go get it. Whatever the issue is, police go get it. Because if a person has a knife, you don't know if they have a mental health issue.

Like, you might see a person with a knife while in the street, not realizing they got schizophrenia. And I really doesn't get bipolar and they have another. In that moment, when somebody has a knife and they're attacking another person, it doesn't really matter what their health issues are. You need somebody that knows and is trained and how to stop them and keep the public safe. I think most people would agree with that. I don't think you need both.

I don't think Bob Dany would disagree with that. I agree. There is a number in New York, though, that you call. Yeah. And it's another organization that goes out, and I think then police come to back them up. They just need support, is what I'm trying to say. And so, look. Support is money, guys.

Exactly. So there's no, look, the reality of the matter is, I have no problem with this stuff like that. Nobody is going to say it, but the reality of the matter is, is they can talk all they want about increasing taxes. We've been saying this for a while, increasing taxes on the rich. If they're not taxing the people who really are rich, I'm not talking about doctors. We're wealthy people. I'm talking about the people that exist outside of the taxation system. If they don't have a way to tax them, they're not going to get access to the billionaires.

You can say all you want about, hey, we need a tax of billionaires. But if you don't have a way to effectively tax them because there are so many loopholes for them to avoid taxation, you're just using billionaire as a term, and then that tax ends up going on doctors, it ends up going on lawyers, it ends up going on all these other people, which, sure, they can contribute more. but should middle class people, upper, upper middle class and like whatever rich people pay the taxes for the billionaires who find ways to skirt them? No, they should contribute just like everybody.

Yes, man. Right? And the system currently is set up by those people so that they don't. So for me, when I hear somebody talking about taxing people or taxing the wealthy or taxing however you want, I would really like them to have a prescriptive way to tax those people that can avoid those taxes very easily. Go start with the billionaires in these motherfucking corporations

who ain't paying no goddamn taxes. Don't start with the people on Epstein list. Yes. You know what I mean? Like, why don't we look at how much? They don't even need their money no more. Exactly. Like, let's, you're right.

You're already rigging the system so you can make money and then you can, you know, short stocks and you can, you know, short futures for all these different things because you have insider knowledge. You're connected with these people from other countries

and you know things that those countries are going to do before it already happens. Come on, man. Or bet against or bet with the current or whatever it is. so you can exploit these horrendous situations around the world and you don't pay taxes at home for it? God damn.

And we got to pay taxes for you? You should want to do that for your soul. You know you're going to hell. The least you should do is pay your motherfucking taxes so some of these social programs can get funded. Why would they? Their whole life is built on the exploitation of people. Why would they not just keep on exploiting people?

Jesus, right. If they're already doing that to profit around the world, why would they not do that at home as well? I'm going to tell you something. You're absolutely right. And I really think. And can I just say, one thing not to interrupt you, there isn't a soul in New York that would be against that.

There isn't a soul in New York left or right that wouldn't be against making sure people, the Epstein class, the billionaires, whatever you want to call them, are paying their fair share. And they can speak all they want about, oh, we create this many jobs and, oh, we're donating this much to charity. Yeah, sure. Are you finding ways where you don't have to pay any income tax? Yes, you are, and you shouldn't. And you're cheating the people and you're exploiting hardworking people in the process.

and you should absolutely pay. And if that's the process, and if that's what he's coming out and saying, do you know how many people would support that around the country? There'd be other people around the country going, I sure as hell wish my mayor would say that. Yeah, I haven't heard him. I haven't.

I'm not going to sit here and act like I've heard all of his rhetoric around this. But if his rhetoric around this is like not, don't just say the wealthy. Don't just say you want to tax the rich. Like to that point, tax the big corporate billionaires who aren't paying no taxes. Name, name. How about this?

Tax the rich. Tax the rich. Tax the rich more. If you want to increase taxes, if you really think that that will help middle class and poor people, I'm all for that. How about the- But you better make sure that the Epstein class of people is taxed as well. Don't do the thing where- 69%. 69%. 69, motherfuckercent, bro. Tax what? 69%. The Epstein class. I mean, they owe us for years. No, no, but whatever number you want to come up with, my point is that don't posit these ideas that you know aren't going to impact the people that you say you're talking about, which are the billionaire class of people. There's nobody that gets paid a billion dollars a year in income is the point right now, right?

Like all these guys, the fucking Steve Jobs was making a dollar a year at Apple and he was just getting paid in Apple stock, right? Like these guys don't make income. So you can talk all you want about income tax. But if you actually want to tax the Epstein class, you're going to have to find a different way to do it. And everybody would be supportive of it. There's not a single American outside of that little group that wouldn't go, that sounds like a fantastic. By the way, they're the ones that's opposed to it now, which is why it never fucking happens. There we go.

And now we're learning how the world works. But it just really, it really is fucked up when we act like that as an equivalency, right? Like, well, if we can't tax the wealthy, we have to raise property tax it. No, motherfuckers. Is this crazy taxing a portion of your network? But then you can't do it. No, because net worth ain't real. Then you can't do any loopholes.

Net worth with the real. How about start with this? Network isn't real, though. Sure, sure, because that fluctuates with the value of the stocks that you own and all these everything. How about this one? If you are taking out loans against your stock, right, which a lot of people do so they don't have to affect the capital.

And loans are tax-free. If you're taking out loans against your stock, you should have to pay whatever the tax rate is for that amount of money as if it's income. If you're using your stock as collateral for this loan, then you have to pay the tax a tax, tax up. Now, what will happen is most people go, well, shit, I'm not going to take a loan out here and then have to give half of it to the government. Then I get the 50% of the loan. So then what you'll have to do, which is what everybody else has to do, is decide to either utilize the money that's coming in as income or sell similar stocks so you can pay off things. That's what normal human beings have to do.

And they get to operate outside the system. And that is effectively, it's not, I guess you would say, it's not unfair because it is the code and is the system that everybody lives within. But it puts them in a super advantageous situation. The wealthiest people already in a more advantageous situation to continue to expand their wealth. If he puts something out there like this, I can't found there wouldn't be

unanimous support. I really can't. Do you think that they should tax the revenue companies make or tax the money that they report? So now you're in a tricky situation because... They don't report it. Well, no, it's not about reports. It's like, what revenue is...

Revenue is what you make, but then like a company profits. Like, for example, Apple... You can't tax revenue because that's going to crush a mom and pop business that's going to... No, no, I'm talking about with these corporations. Because think about a company like Apple, Apple, Apple made over $400 billion last year. And I think their profit was over $100 billion. Right. Like, I think that you should tax that shit.

You don't think, like... Are you sure that profit was $100 billion? You pay corporate taxes. Yes, their problem. Let me look at it. They find ways to offset their... Yeah, they find ways to offset their profit. Yeah.

They always save, like, Amazon always says, oh, we had a lawsuit. Again, my concern... Apple, oh, see, that's even crazy. Apple Inc. reported for its 2025 fiscal year about $416 billion. So that's the total amount of money Apple made from selling products and services before expenses. The net income profit was $112 billion.

This is the profit Apple kept after subtracting cost, taxes, and expenses. You're not paying no fucking taxes. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So... Well, I don't think you can tax... My concern about taxing people who are just on revenue, and clearly there are...

Corporations, though. Corporations, but I mean, like, when a mom and pop store opens, they incorporate, right? Because it's advantageous to incorporate. When you have a small business, like WTF Studios, it's going to be harder for those businesses to grow,

and now you're going to actually put the big corporations in a more advantageous system. I'm talking about the wealthiest amongst us. I ain't talking about the mom and pop. I'm talking about the people we're talking about right now, these huge corporations who don't pay their fair sharing taxes already. My feeling is, like, tax the individuals. Individuals.

Like, because the end, they're obviously making money and they're finding ways to hide it. Say again? Hit Tim Cookup? Hit them all up. But they make their money off Apple.

They're able to hide their money and not pay these taxes and report what they want because they're hiding behind these businesses. Here's the thing. They take a loan off of their stocks. So it's like, that's why it doesn't come up as income

because it's a loan. And then they just live off that loan. Oh, shit. You're not living right. You think you're in the files. I'm the fucking four hours, bro. Yeah, it's good. All right.

But then, so yeah, so that money isn't alone, but the money that they have in the stock market continues to make money. So now, whatever the interest rate, they still made money on top of that. So it's like they're living all free money pretty much. And paying zero. Tax these motherfuckers, man.

Listen, they should find someone way smarter than us. They should find someone way smarter than us to figure out of what we're saying. Exactly. All we're saying is tax is fucking well. It'd do it fairly. And to the guys' earlier point, I have no problem spending, you know, I pay my taxes, of course, but I would love to know exactly

what my tax dollars are going. I would love to be able to choose what my tax dollars go. You're Mr. 200 million. You've got to find ways to not pay taxis. I don't know why people keep saying that. Can I say something real quick? Just hypothetically, right? Just hypothetically. I just want y'all to know when people hear numbers. Who cares about numbers? You don't mean use them. But people would talk about numbers, right? Yeah, yeah. Whatever you hear, always remember that is half whatever you hear.

So first they tell us men lie, women lie, numbers don't. Now we got to numbers they ain't telling the truth now. Numbers don't lie, but there's nuance the numbers. Like, you know what I'm saying? Let's just use who's the last basketball player

to get a big contract? All of them. All of them? All right. So let's just say somebody just signed the max deal. I'm just going to say somebody signed the max deal and say it's $100 million. Right? Depending on what state they're in. They're not in Florida, they're not in Texas.

40% straight taxes, right? Then you got agents, then you got managers, then you got lawyers. So I know it sounds good to just throw out a number, but there's a lot of individuals that get paid. But one thing you will never hear me say is, $100 million, there ain't no money. I'll never say no shit like that, okay? I will never be like any of these athletes or any of these.

people you see on these platforms who say things like that such ain't no money. Guys, you make a good point. We, I think we owe Charlotte man an apology. Here we were, here we were thinking he made a lot of money. Turns out he only made $100 million. I didn't say anything. I ain't say none of that. No, no, you're right.

I think the internet needs to apologize. I'm just, I'm not going to ever be the person. I barely made any money. They're broke ass, we're not talking about you. We're talking about real rich people. He had to pay taxes. Taxes. Oh, E.J.

He ain't seen nothing after that. He can't even go to Anguilla no more. But isn't that the reality of life? By the way, the Forbes magazine is actually on newsstands right now. The cover. No, the print. No, the print. No, the print is on newsstands right now.

The digital, it was the digital that came out of December. They go. They say eat the rich. They go. They go. Listen, I take care of mine. I take care of people. I show a lot of people love, by the way.

All I'm simply telling you is the reality of life is I don't know why everybody else would lie that people, but the reality of life is when you see certain numbers automatically know that it's a lot of places that money goes. And most of it is to the IRS if you're doing it right. Well, no, no. If you'd be an honest, most of it's the IRS. If you're being honest.

If you're being dishonest. So a person in your situation, like one of these guys of the Epstein class of people, they would find a way to hide that money. They would find a way in tax loopholes so not pay any of it. That's right. And what they do is they create certain tax loopholes

to incentivize investment in certain companies where you don't have to pay taxes. So then there are these guys that make these massive, massive payouts when a company goes public, whatever, and they don't have to contribute anything in tax because they invested in this startup before it was valued at $50 million, therefore there's no taxation on the exit.

There's all these, like, peculiar little rules that benefit people, and not the rest of us. And it's probably infuriating. And that's not Charlemagne. He's broke like the rest of us. You know, he's in that. Charlemagne makes between like $50,000 and $100 million.

So like, you know what I mean? Like we got to feel bad for him, you know? First of all, I'm going to tell you something, man. I'm going to tell you why I'm going to tell you why I despise words like broke. I'm so rich in spirit. Like, God is so with me. And the podcast. I hope they tax your spirit.

I'm so rich in spirit. I hope Mom Donnie does spirit. God is with me. I don't even live in New York. Nah, my Donnie's. Right? I, Tony. You know, the budget needs to be balanced.

Your taxes, spirituality right now. I don't. I don't live in New York City, okay? Jersey, come from them. They got to raise that toll. I work in New York, though. I work in New York. Oh, that's right.

You've got to pay money on the, you pay taxes on the money. I pay New York City taxes. A lot in New York City taxes. There we go. I paid a lot of New York City taxes for 15 years now. As you should, contributing to this great city. I have no problem with it. New York has been great to me.

Okay? I drive in the city sometime and turn on Empire State of Mind just because. I love it. Okay? That shit slaps, all right? I love New York City. New York City, they say if you can make you, here, you can make it anywhere. I'm sure that's the case. I don't know any other experience.

Hey, God, I can only tell you my life. I don't know any other experience. Andrew, did you make it here? I would say your life is the opposite. Why? Because you made it nowhere else until you made it in New York. You're right? I mean, listen, no, you're right. You got fired from every other job. Hey, and then New York is right. You know what? This guy's talented. I, you know, I, you know, started in South Carolina. You were built for New York, bro. Started in South Carolina. He's like, you know what?

I'm going to take you to New York for a little bit. You're going to sit here with one of the greatest radio personalities of all time. You're going to sit here for a few years. And I'm going to take you to this hard-nosed city called Philly. Where they'll boot this shit out of you, come shoot you at the radio station if they want to. And then I'm going to bring you back to New York City so you can do it. You know, you need needs to be done. Look at God.

Look at fucking God. New York City has been great to me. Greatest city in the world. Hey. Greatest city. I have no reason to dispute that. I would look like a complete hypocrite. Also, you don't have any property here.

None. So, I own property in Jersey. Yeah. But I pay a lot of taxes here, though. I pay a lot of taxes here, though. They just elected a progressive in Jersey, didn't they? Uh, Governor Cheryl. No, there's another person that just won an election in Jersey.

I don't know. No, different one. I don't know. Here's the crazy thing about New York City. My, New York City will always be a part of my story. Yes. It's like it's like forever. Like when they, for as long as they remember us.

They will remember. They will remember us in New York City. Whether it's working with Wendy, whether it's breakfast club, whether it's brilliant idiots, we are New York Staples. You should give like a 100 million endowment in New York City. I'm sure I will one day. Today that day. Hey, I'm sure I will one day.

If you think this is my last. time on a Forbes cover, you bug it. I'm just letting y'all know. I'm just letting y'all know what God has planned for me. Okay. You all heard that. And, you know, like I always tell y'all, if what you build only benefits you, it's not big enough. Okay. I'm creating jobs, okay? I've probably created more jobs in New York City than most politicians. Right? That's all I'm simply saying. That's all I'm simply saying. I've done my part. You've done your part, Alex. Andrew, you've done your part. We're sitting in fucking the heavy studios. Amen.

Alice, you got WTF. You got employees. Andrew, you got employees. I got employees. But several different verticals. We are doing our part. That's all we can do, man. All we can do is be put in certain positions and, you know,

try to help the next person. I don't think that's so difficult. Amen. Is that difficult? It's not fucking difficult, man. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, You think we're intelligent. You think we're brewing. You're absolutely right.

But if you listen to this podcast, I think we're just a couple of idiots who don't know shit and you're right to. It's a brilliant idiotous podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace.