The Brilliant Idiots - Capital Gains

Episode Date: April 18, 2025

This week on The Brilliant Idiots, Charlamagne tha God and Andrew Schulz discuss the recent all-female space flight and dive into the wild world of UFO conspiracy theories, space tourism, and whether celebs launching into orbit are flexing a little too hard. Then they talk money—who’s paying taxes (and who’s not), the rich getting richer, and why capitalism needs some serious guardrails to keep things fair. They also break down why cities keep throwing public money at fancy new sports arenas, the impact of gentrification, and what real community investment should look like. Also takes on free speech, gang culture, immigration, 90s nostalgia, and why growing up is underrated. Oh, and yes… fat jokes. Brace yourself. ************************************ Sponsor Brilliant Idiots: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/brilliant-idiots Black Effect Podcast Festival: http://blackeffect.com/podcastfestival/ Uncommon Favor - Dawn Staley Pre Order - https://a.co/d/4pLD1C3 No Holes Barred -Mandi B & Weezy WTF https://a.co/d/cGFDUoB The Wind on Her Tongue - Anita Kopacz https://a.co/d/fWDancH I Lived to Tell the Story: A Memoir of Love, Legacy, and Resilience - Tamika D. Mallory https://a.co/d/7DoCtWX Get Honest or Die Lying Why Small Talk Sucks By Charlamagne Tha God https://a.co/d/gpFlOol Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" https://blackeffect.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Andrew Show. We are the brilliant idiots back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Heather Kyle Walker. What's up? How the week been, bro? Man, incredible, bro. I was so happy about that spaceflight, man. I've been dreaming for this day when these women,

the all-female space crew. Okay. I've been dreaming about this day. I thought they was trying to get Gail out of here because of what she threw out there last week when she let that effetry word, that fragel magatry word go. In the tree or you know why she did it.

I was like, you know what? People who are making noise, but they're a little bit too quiet. I'm like, you know what? They're trying to get, they're trying to get Ms. King out of here. Here's the thing. If you thought you were going to die next week, wouldn't you just say anything? That's a good point. Absolutely.

You wrote the dice. Absolutely. You think I'm going to die? Listen, this is Gail King, right? There's no way she actually thought that ship was coming back. Damn. Damn. No?

I mean, it didn't cross my mind. It did cross my mind. If I'm going in a ship, I'm like, all the only movies I've ever seen about space, the ship blows up. And especially, you know, in this era where it seems like everything in the sky is coming down, I was like, eh. But then I was like, eh, no, bro. I'm almost 100%.

So I'm going out on a bang, bro. I'm going to say whatever words I want to say on day time. I think she's a lit more fly than that. That's a big one. That's a big one. I mean, when you are- What else can she say? Especially as a black person.

She could say all the other ones. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There's only one word. That was a good. And maybe she's a woman. What does she call CBS to broadcast in system? Nothing, nothing. Light work.

Light work. But when you draw geometry like that? What if she just said the CBS logo was just the sideways? I mean, listen, it might be good. It's a different slit. It might be good, but it's not as good as gayometry. Yeah, that gag amygdry was crazy.

Yeah, it was wild. I don't know why everybody was. That's why she was pissed as she came back. Did you see her walking off the, walking down the thing? I mean, that's when them nerves, When you finally think to yourself, I'm going to fucking space. Somebody asked me that shit, would you go to space? I'm like, no.

Hell no. The only person I ever known that wanted to go to space. Duval. That's it. That's it. I haven't even seen little Duvall say much about this flight. That's how I know he met. Man.

Duval got an opinion about everything. I ain't seen him comment on the Blue Origin space flight at all. Do you believe they even went? You know, there's a lot of conspiracy things. Right. Nobody, here's the problem with the world we live in. A lot of conspiracy theory. Nobody believes anything except for the stupidest shit.

You know what else happened this week? It's still in the space realm. The CIA declassified documents and said that there was a saucer flying over a bunch of Soviet soldiers. The Soviet soldiers shot at the saucer and it crashed. The beings emerged from the wreckage and turned all of the soldiers the stone except for two of them. It's fire. The CIA declassified these documents.

Where did this? What you mean? You don't read. You don't read, out. Typical? Al, you don't read. You know what that called? You know what kind of that's called?

What's that? I'm not going to say in front of you. I'm scared. Yep. Scared. Oh, I'm scared. Oh, I'm scared. It's everywhere.

Pull up a website. Declassified Cold War era CIA files details Soviet clash with aliens who witnesses say turn soldiers to stone. A declassified Cold War era. Cold War era filed from the CIA has gone viral over its coverage of a supposed clash between Soviet soldiers and a UFO. Following the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, the CIA acquired a 250-page KGBB report recounting the events that transpired after a platoon, fired after a flying, fired at a flying saucer over Ukraine. The report includes eyewitness accounts and pictures of the

aftermath, which one American agent described as a horrific picture of revenge on the part of extraterrestrial creatures, a picture that makes one's blood freeze. CIA released that and y'all don't give a flying fuck, but y'all out here talking about whether or not Gail King and Katie Perry and Jeff Bezos's wife and whoever else was on that spaceship was real. Why would it be fake? That's the thing.

Whenever somebody tells me something's fake, I'd need to know why. What would the reason be for faking it? Did you see the video? Which one? Of them in space floating around? Nah. The video where they opened the door from the end of the end of the video. inside and then they're told really quickly,

yo, you're not supposed to open it from the inside. We're supposed to open it to let you out. Okay. What people are saying is that they stage the landing. People say that about the moon landing too. Yeah, but obviously that's actually a great movie about that. Have you seen that movie? That stars Channing Tatum and Scarlett Johansson.

Fly me to the moon? It's a great movie. Wait, it's about staging it? Yes. It's literally about how the Nixon administration wanted to stage it just in case they didn't make it. So they put together this whole thing. And they wanted it.

They was like, we're going to do the real experiment. But the one we're going to air to everybody is going to be this one. So that's my theory on the whole thing. Okay, bring it up. No, literally that. I think they did stage one. I think they actually went and got there. But I think a lot of what we saw is the stage one.

Because it's hard to get good footage. Something could have gone wrong. So they basically did the fake. version. We air that, but it was still accomplished. That's what they showed in the movie. I think that is the most logical thing that happened. And what they actually show you in the movie is they... There's all Justin Thoreau thing about that. It can't be everything. It can't be everything.

It can't be everything. All right, don't even ask. It's fun. Thank you. Thank you, Chris. Like, I'm trying to fucking get them. No, no. It's the look you give. You say it and you look off into the ether. Like you look off in the space. Okay, I'm looking at you. There's a whole Justin Thoreau. No, no, when you said it. When you said it.

There's a old Justin Thoreau thing about that. All right, cool. What in the f***ing here? Cool, cool, cool. What about it? Just Thoreau. You couldn't not know. He's so curious.

It got the best of all. Because Chris said, it's like the room is selling it. Chris even said something. No, because it is a real. person, that's how I do it. I'm that sophisticated. I don't even got to make up people. I use real names and then just throw dick in your mouth. It's that simple out here, okay? That's great. Who is this person? Now, listen, let me ask you a question. Would you believe it again? You just said it again. You just said it again. That's a question. Would you believe this if it was

not an all-woman crew? Of course I would believe it. What are we talking about? Like, of course I would believe it. Are you fucking kidding me? Are you fucking kidding me? You believed it. They had one thing to remember. Don't open the door from the inside. And the five women in there couldn't put their brains together to figure that shit out. They had one thing to remember. Don't open the door from the inside. The second it landed, they opened a door from the inside. What's the problem with opening the door from the inside?

Trying to get the fuck out of him. Well, they don't allow you to do it in the event that somebody goes crazy up there and they try to open the door and then kill everybody else. I don't care how crazy you get you're not opening that door in space. Where's there to go? You never saw Steve Bouchemy in that movie? It's a movie. What do you think about people caring

and saying things like, you know, this is a waste of resources? Yeah, they're tone deaf. It's stupid. It's a waste of resources. Yo, you could do. Who's resources, though? Hours. The government didn't pay for this?

Yes, it is. No, we did not. Yes, we did. No, we did not. I looked up. I asked Pete Buttigieg. He told me. Shut the fuck up.

That is. What did you ask him? About your anus? What did you add Pete Buttigieg about space, bro? He told me he worked on this project. He was upset when I was shitting on it. They give. Blonding.

Blue Origin does get funding from the government. When it comes to this commercial space tourism, that has nothing to do with it. Yeah, but the commercial funding funds Blue Origin, which allows them to do this commercial space tourism. So without that other funding, they don't even get to... It's Jeff Bezos. He's the fucking richest man in the world. So use your own money for that shit. I thought he did. Nah.

From what I read, they said he did. This is not publicly funded. It's not taxpayer money. Okay, but so we fund all the trials, and then you go do it with the girls. So we're funding it to make sure it's good. So let's talk about that. If we're funding the trials, why are you mad about this one? Because you can't do it without trials, right?

You're going to get in any space shirt? But doesn't everything that they're saying apply to that? When they say, oh, it's ruining the ecosystem and you're ruining the earth. Don't the trials do that too? Yeah, I don't care about the earth. Can we just admit that we're upset that this is a bunch of celebrities? No. I'm upset.

It's a bunch of women. That's why people are upset. People are upset because this is a bunch of women. No, no. They're not. They're upset. Really celebrities. They're upset because people are doing really rough right now.

Things are expensive. The economy is not good. And it's tone deaf to go send a fucking spaceship into the air for no other reason than to have your wife and her girlfriends have a little 11-minute party. This is what America does. We do things like this all the time. That's what makes America-And we're upset when America does it too, by the way. I thought we're talking about America. Yeah.

Yes. We're upset. That's what I'm saying. We're consistently upset. People are mad because this is celebrities. If you looked and saw how many trials they do to even make sure things like this is successful, you wouldn't be mad at this one.

This is the reason why people are mad. Or this is the reason why they should be mad. There are these people that build these amazing companies on the backs of a marketplace that rewards entrepreneurship that is the United States of America. And then they make all this money. And then they find ways to not pay taxes on it.

They move the headquarters to their companies to other countries so they could avoid taxes. And they move the manufacturing to other countries, so it removes jobs from America. So they use us and this amazing system that we've built to make, God knows how much money. And then the second they could not pay back into it, they don't. And I don't believe this bullshit about like, oh, we provide jobs. It's like you provide jobs because you can profit off of that. You're not doing that of benevolence.

So I have an issue when you're already, you know, Amazon paid no money in tax last year? Yes, I do that. And you're okay with that? No. Okay. We've been saying taxed the wealthy. So, so, so, so, so if you... That's why I would know.

By the way. No, no, by the way, no, I'm with you. I'm with you. You cook for. But that's why nobody wanted people to vote for Donald Trump, because they knew Donald Trump was going to not give, he was going to make tax, more tax breaks for the wealthy. That was the whole point.

You know that this was set up during the Biden administration, right? I'm not, listen, I'm with you. But if you think that the Democrats, but, oh, aren't also letting corporations get away with not paying taxes. I'm not even talking about the wealthy. This is the problem. Sure, but who's the party that was screaming taxed the wealthy? I don't care who screams and who doesn't if both of them are letting it get away with them.

I'm with you, but who's the party that was screaming taxed the wealthy? Okay, so Democrats, you like that they lie to you more. So, but you can't complain about what you voted for. I'm just saying, tuck you into bed with your lies. If you want to get tucked into bed with the lies, that's fine. Sure, but you still can't complain for what you voted for. I can't complain about whatever I want. I'm American.

That is true. But Republicans do not care about taxing the wealthy. Neither do Democrats. None of them do. And it's not about just taxing the wealthy because... So why are we supposed to not vote at all? I don't. Maybe.

I don't fucking know anymore Here's the thing Also like the things that you vote for Like you don't have to support every single thing That a candidate or a party does Yes, that is true So just because you vote You vote for one thing

Doesn't mean you're okay With some fuck shit that they do The point that I that I'm trying to make And this has been happening for decades It's like there are corporations In America that we know Those corporations don't pay tax Do you know that you know Jamil

Right? Jamil when he works abroad He had to pay taxes abroad In the country he works And in America while he was working abroad. So do you know how many times we've argued about, not even argued, how many times we've said this on this podcast?

So why the fuck is Apple allowed to keep tons of fucking money out there in China not pay any taxes on it? Why are they allowed to set up dummy corporations in Ireland where they don't have to pay a tax? That's stealing from the American people. So you're stealing from us. You are 100% correct, but welcome to 2015. This conversation has been happening forever.

Why don't you tell me that shit, bro? This is not a new conversation. All we want is the wealth. feet of paid everything. Well, that's when I was making sure Democrats would be in office, and I did, and nothing happened. Listen, listen. That's what I was voting for Democrats.

And they just keep letting them do it. And I'll be honest, I'm pissed at Trump. Matter of fact, and I'm pissed at this whole terrorist shit. If you're going to remove the tariffs for Apple on the phones and the iPads and all this kind of shit. You know why? Let me tell you why I'm pissed. Because now the businesses, the mom and pop businesses that actually might rely on those goods that are being manufactured in China

are going to get clipped when Apple is the one that has been making trillions of dollars off the fact that there are next to like no tariffs and taxes on their goods coming over here. So now they continue to make trillions of dollars while they moved all their manufacturing out of this country,

while they move all their headquarters out of this country so they don't even have to pay taxes on it. So the mom and pop people who are getting their goods from China, they still got to pay taxes. Matter of fact, they're playing probably proportionally way more taxes than Amazon is paying

or Apple's bank and you're going to punish them and then let Apple get off scot-free? That's some fuck shit if you asked me. So you're absolutely right. But where have you been the last 10 to 15? Voting for Democrats and see where it got me. I don't even know if this is, I'm going to be honest with you, this isn't a party thing. This is an America being a fucked up capitalist society thing. This is, this is why you need capitalism ruling everything around me. This is why you need guardrails for capitalism, 100%. And but to me, it's important that we recognize these figures because there's a lot of

these like celebrity CEOs and they walk around and they have a lot of fun and they send spaces into the sky while they're doing certain business practices that are literally stealing money from the people and the country that allowed their business to thrive. There's no Amazon in these other countries because they're way more restrictive, right? Like, you cannot create these companies in other countries because they're so fucking restrictive. Facebook can't be created in other country because they don't believe in sharing the data in the way that Americans just let that data go everywhere. So we have this marketplace that allows entrepreneurship to thrive. And then the second, they make billions of dollars, they find a way to extract that wealth from the very marketplace that allowed them to thrive.

That should be stealing. That should be looked at as theft. And there should be. And I know this is difficult. And I know taxing rich people is very hard. It shouldn't be, though. It's not hard to tax us. That's my point.

And that's the other thing. We get looped into this with those motherfuckers. We're getting taxed efficiently. That's not even my point. Really efficiently. That's not even my point. That is a majority of Americans' point. Tax the goddamn wealthy.

Tax the top. They don't make any money. They go, oh, I don't. don't have any income, so you can't tax. They write the laws. Well, well, I wouldn't even go so far. Yes, I think they do use lobbyists to do that, but essentially what they do is they say we have income tax, right? They tax us on our income. Those people, they go, Apple, the guy from Apple, not Tim Cook, Steve Jobs was making a dollar a year. He's like, just give me all my money and stock options. And then what they do is they take loans out against their stock options and loans are what?

Not taxable. So you get in, actually you're making double money when you think about it. with all that, but I would say, isn't this more reason that someone like Elon Musk who did not pay any income tax in 24, I believe, shouldn't be the guy in charge of Doge? If he's not carrying his fair share, should he be the one making decisions on who gets cut from the federal? Not only did he not pay income tax, majority of his money comes from the fucking federal government. So why is he the one? So, so, so we're technically we're paying Eli. Yo, not Elon. Not only him, Walmart. Like, why the fuck am I paying? all the Walmart employees.

Sure. Like, why are you paying them, why are you letting them work 38 hours so you don't have to pay them full time and don't have to give them benefits and do this other shit? So the American government has to step in and pay for half of it.

Like, these are the type of things that we have to look at these people and we have to understand who these people are and the families. We should know, like, what they look like in their names, and they should be publicly shamed for this. Oh, they do. Why do you think that all of these CEOs

after the United Healthcare CEO got gunned down was hiring mad security? Because that is what people are starting to see. They're starting to put these people's names on there, wall and say, these are the people that are motherfucking keeping me from having free health care. These are the people that are keeping me from having free education in this country. I will say this. I don't, I think it is a natural human instinct to, like, try to hoard your

resources. I think that, like, if we didn't have money, we would do it with fucking coconuts. Like, I think that's what humans do. And that's why, and I don't want to remove this amazing marketplace for entrepreneurship that we have here in America. To your point, I love the capitalist system, but it needs to have guard. Yes, that's it. It's just, and the guard. And the guard is not to stop innovation. The guardrail is to stop a business from literally stealing money from the place that allowed the business to thrive. I consider when you create tons of revenue and you move your headquarters to a dummy office in Ireland or whatever the fuck who was giving you these tax benefits, I consider that theft. Because if I took my money and I moved it to an offshore

account in the Bahamas or something like that, I would go to prison because I would be not paying taxes, right? That would be considered fraud. But when it would be taxis, evasion. But when they do it, it's considered good business practice. Yeah, because they create laws for them to be able to do it. You are, they should be looked at as if they are stealing money from the American people. You can move your manufacturing overseas. I'm okay with that. As long as we, and you make all that extra revenue, as long as the American people get that tax benefit from all that extra benefit, from all that extra revenue. But, and we would pay less than taxes. That's what I'm saying. Not even like us, the people making under $50,000 a year,

under $100,000 a year. You can tax us fine. They really hit us, though. They really hit us, but at the same time, nobody feels as bad for us as they shouldn't because we're in a very fortunate situation. I'm fortunate as fucking Basos and Elon Musk and, but you know. That's also the concern with, you know, you've talked about the idea that we might do no taxes on $150,000 and on $100,000. I like that. Okay, but if that happens, what you're going to get is the bottom's paying no taxes. Why the fuck? Why all that dick they take?

They shouldn't have to pay no taxes. I'm going to be honest. That's fair. That's right off for sure. But. I'm serious. If you're a bottom take. I just got it.

Come on, now. Be honest with you. Why should they have to take taxes? You got to, we have to take the tax dollars and they take dick. Come on. You can't, you also can't incentivize somebody to make less than $150,000. Because let's say you tax nobody at, you tax nothing under $150, and someone's making $160 getting taxed at 30%.

They're like, all right, fucking, I got to find a way to make under $150. Oh, it's like tanking the NBA. I'm not going to, hey, let me just go 0.15 down the stretch. But the problem is basically the top, the bottom, whatever you want to call it, the middle class, which is basically on his last legs, but which is important to have a middle class in the country, they're going to take the entire tax burden in the entire country then,

and that's going to absolutely destroy the middle class, which is something you don't want. All I'm saying is, like, if you are a corporation and you move manufacturing overseas to the detriment of the people in your country so that you can profit more, the bare minimum that you should be expected to do is be taxed on those new profits,

just like anybody else here, They make more money. They get tax more so that we can use that money. And I'm not saying the government is efficient at all, but at least so that we could use that money, hopefully, to rebuild some sort of industry, infrastructure for those people that now no longer have jobs because we've moved those jobs overseas. I was thinking about this.

Is that a crazy ultimate? Can we cap CEO salaries? What's a fair number? Keep people incentivized. No, no, I don't believe in the cap and the CEO salary. But then they're going to keep hoarding the coconuts. Well, the problem I have with the CEOs. Not if we put the taxation.

The problem I have with CEO salaries is when for whatever reason it seems like a lot of times when the stock market's crashing shit, these CEOs still get their bonuses. You shouldn't still get your bonuses if your company isn't performing or if the stock market is bad. Why should you still get a bonus? You shouldn't get a bonus if you get a bonus if you get bailed out by the American people, you're not getting a bonus. Yes, it's like where's the bonus?

So listen, I think these are basic things that because the tax laws are so sophisticated in this country and they're way too sophisticated for a guy like me to even understand. And it is hard to catch these motherfuckers. They spend tens of millions of dollars a year on tax attorneys. And who's the greatest example of that? Say again? Who's the greatest example? Is Trump the greatest example? Listen, I think absolutely go after 100%. I'm not against it. I just feel like this is a bipartisan issue that we don't need to be polarized about. Like poor Republicans, poor Democrats, middle class Republicans, middle class Democrats, we can go at both parties and

put pressure and we don't have to make it a, look, the Republican's bad thing. This is an American thing. Well, it is an American thing and it is interesting what you said about the Democrats earlier because it is true, right? Like, whenever Democrats talk about, you know, taxing the wealthy, we've always said for years, you're lying. You're not going to really taxed wealthy. You're not going to do shit.

You're not going to tax Charlemagne and Andrew, but you can't go tax the real wealthy. That's right. That's right. You're going to say you're going to do it. That's right. And then those guys giving you hundreds of millions of dollars, you're going to do fucking nothing. 100 million dollars to help write the laws until you shut the fuck up.

Now, I will say this. Biden did it. I extend the Trump tax cuts. He did, huh? He extended it. He could have just let it expire. Of course he extended it. Listen, corporate America is all those politicians' daddies.

I want Apple Pants tax. The wealthy is all those politicians' daddies. That's why it's even, it's so wild to be to hear Democrats talk about oligarchy and everything. The oligarchy has always existed. You just have somebody like Elon Musk who's front and center with it now. The oligarchy has always existed. It's just that now all of those tech guys wanted to sit at the inauguration. Used to be the Rockefellers.

Used to be the Kennedy. George Soros. All these motherfuckers. You can talk about right now. George Soros right now. Absolutely. He's the left wing version of it. 100%.

Like oligarchies always existed. Which way do you guys prefer seeing the oligarchs do their thing in public like an Elon or the behind-the-scenes stuff? I like seeing it be as we at least know who it is. Like look at all the shit that Elon's getting. That there's all these people like the Walton family that owns Walmart. We don't even know what they look. We don't even know what they look like. I don't see the point, you know what I want to know what you look like.

But that's, that's, I want you to feel the shame. But here's the thing. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. So, imagine you're a Walton. That's bad business. Because, because everybody shops at Walmart. That's why I never understood Elon Musk's angle.

Elon Musk's angle. Elon, the majority of people probably buying your electric cars are fucking liberals who believe in climate change. That's the rise and fall of the celebrity CEO. The benefit of the celebrity CEOs, you could do a lot of promotion for your company. The negative is if you're viewed negatively, it impacts the company. As I'm saying, why would you want to be front and center? Because it could benefit your company. It's just like having a mascot for your company that's really cool. It makes the company

it don't benefit your company regardless of what side you're on. Because you're going to piss off somebody. But he just became polarizing. Like before when Elon Musk was doing the electric vehicles, before he got political, he was just a superstar celebrity that everybody wanted to invest in whatever he touched her. But that's because he's a genius. He's like the Tony's talk of our time. Exactly. Why not stay in that role and just continue? You got political. You got political. That's the thing.

But stay out of policy. You can be political and still be behind the scenes. And that's what I wonder if he goes, this was a mistake. I don't know. I don't know. I would think so. But it does frustrate me. Like those types of things frustrated me.

And it's like I understand the feeling of like how do you save more money and do that stuff for your business. I get it. But like I wonder if if we have these businesses that are making billions, trillions of dollars, right? I wonder if there's just like a bare minimum tax burden that you have to pay. Even if you can... You should have to. Like, you know, if you have X amount of employees, you have to pay bare minimum, you know, $20 billion, whatever it is, or $10 billion.

I don't even know what the fucking numbers are... I don't care if you should have to pay something, especially if you claim to care about people. That's it. Why tax dollars are supposed to go to, you know, programs and infrastructure? Why would you have a problem paying that? And the government is going to fuck it up. But at least I don't resent you for getting around the system that I'm not allowed to get around.

You know what I'm saying? The government will find a way to be inefficient about it the same way that we don't got a fucking rail line in California, the same way that they don't have the railway in Hawaii, the same way that the BQE is still fucked up over here. The government will find a way to fuck it up, yes. But bare minimum, you're in this with us. I do have an idea, though. If you don't want them to pay taxes, they should have to donate a certain amount of money. They'll just run it through.

through their own corporations. That's the thing. No, no, no, they should have to donate it to. A charity they're not related to? Yes, exactly. Programs, charity, they would say they should have to. They'll have the charity owned under a trust. But this has been the American philosophy, especially among the Republicans since Reagan, which is what we're talking about is trickle-down effect, right?

The whole philosophy is if you handcuff these companies and if you handcuff these CEOs, they won't be incentivized or they won't have the ability to create jobs and create businesses. and then that will trickle down negatively because there won't be as much jobs created and much money in circulation. And if you give them free reign, it'll trickle down positively. They'll create so much wealth and so much money

and put so much stuff in circulation. Well, we know that's not true, though. Well, of course, I think trickle down is bullshit, but I think we're at the moment. I don't, sorry, go. No, that's it. I hope we're at a moment when people see people hold on to wealth.

I don't believe that trickle down is bullshit. if these corporations are not using tax loopholes to avoid taxation, trickled down as bullshit when they're avoiding the taxation process that funds this whole marketplace. And I think that's the issue here. It's like, pay your share and then be greedy. Yeah, be greedy as you want as long as you're paying the piper. That'd be awesome.

What they do is their greed, which is a human thing. It's not specific to them. If we were in that position, we would do it, of course. And a fiduciary responsibility to the shareholders. But, like, I think that if they were paying what is, quote, unquote, their fair share, yes, maybe it would stop growth a little bit. But you know what it might inspire? No. No.

When you were down. We're talking a little socialism here. That's socialism talk, bro. Come on, young Bernie. Let's go. Young Bernie. I love Bernie. Let's go.

You know, I love Bernie. I've been Bernie since day one. I love that shit. Come on, Andrew O'Cores. What's her name? Hokatio. I'm AOC. I'm AOC.

But you know I've always been about this shit. I know, that's true. You know, I just don't want them to cutting off the kids' dicks in school, man. Is that? That's fair. You guys keep focusing on taxes. What about wages and salaries? Like, no one...

That's another thing. I think that's even bigger than the avoiding of the taxes. I think... CEO pays keep going up. Can we have some real question? Salaries stay stagnant. You're right. Andrew's right, we're all right.

Are we ever going to really elect officials that are going to actually do those things? And is corporate America going to ever get out of these politicians' pockets enough for a politician to really be? We're almost there. And then your Democrats stole that shit from my boy Bernie. We're almost there. And then you with your hot sauce and Hillary and whatever.

Oh, look at your hot sauce. Oh, you're so cool. You try to give her saxophone. I'm going to be totally honest with you. You're right. Thank you. I've said that already. I'm on record saying that 2016, there was an organic groundswell for Bernie Sanders. And it's, I mean, people are even coming out for Bernie now.

But in 2016, there was an organic groundswell for Bernie Sanders. It was like in 2008. It was an organic groundswell for Barack Obama. And we should have went where the people went. The only reason I didn't get behind Bernie, the way I probably should have when the killer mics and Nina Turner's and everybody was telling me to was because they told me that he couldn't win. That was the sentiment from the, and not just, I'm just talking with the media. All this trick in the book.

We're saying, he can't win. He'll never win. He'll never, you won't win, he won't win, he won't win. He won't win. He won't win when the system is rigged. But it was time for that. It was time for a senator from Vermont who's not really a D.C. person. It was time for the executive producer, 70 percent.

People wanted something different. Drastic change. Drastic change. And we went too far with the drastic change if you asked me. But yeah, Bernie should have been the guy. But you know. Not only, how about, you want to know some real shit? If Bernie was at least the nominee, the way, even if he lost to Trump, which he might have lost to Trump,

Trump is like an incredibly, like, engaging personality. And usually the person with more charm is going to win. But Bernie's policies and the way that they touch the working class people of the United States of America would have pulled Trump into a position where he would also have to address those working class people. It would have changed Trump's policies to mirror Bernie's in a way. And that alone could have helped. Bernie not even radical, bro. Free health care. You know, education, maybe a universal basic income.

No, that's crazy. You're acting crazy. Well, what's the difference? Okay, let me ask you a question. It takes time to get to these things. Sure, but what's the difference between the universal basic income and freaking stimulus checks? Are Elon Musk saying, hey, we're going to find all these statements from Doge and give out $5,000 to the American people? What's the difference?

Well, the idea of you. universal basic income is that you're going to get a higher income. Everybody getting extra $500 a month that need it? Not everybody, but people that need to get an extra $500. Well, we do that. We do that. Not, not. So to kind of, but not like this.

Not where you just say, hey, in your check every month is an extra $1,000. And if you can keep all these corporations from stop being greedy and not price gouging and all that other shit, people are really getting some extra money in their pocket. What's wrong with that? Why don't you just make sure these corporations pay their fair share and let's see what happens? Hey. Why don't you make sure these corporations pay their fair share and let's see what happens.

I am with you 100%. Now, I will say this 12 hours ago. Was this 12 hours ago? 5 a.m. this morning. Republicans reconsider their commitment to tax cuts for the rich and Trump agenda bill. It's an unexpected debate that has emerged as GOP lawmakers look for ways to pay

for their massive budget bill and as the party's electoral coalition shift, Republicans are discussing an idea that has long been... What the fuck is this word? Anathema. What's that mean, Chris? I don't know.

Antamima. An A-N-A-T-H-E-M-A. I can't pronounce it either. Yes, but it's as long as an issue... Against that. Something they're going to against. Yes. Long been an issue within the party.

No, A&A, A-N-A-T-G-M-A or I forget how it was. It's long been an issue within the party. And guess what that is? What? A tax hike on the wealthy. Now, here's the thing. This tax hike on the wealthy, this is what's very important, because this is all fucking lip service.

What does a tax hike on the wealthy mean? You actually don't want to attack the people who are making big income. You don't want to attack LeBron James. You don't want to attack other athletes by attack. That's a strong word. But those are the people you don't want to target. What you want to do is, target the people who aren't making income.

Jeff Bezos. The loopholes, right? Elon Bush. But this is what they do. They tell us this shit. Tax hikes on the rich. And it's just like, you know who wants that more than anything? Jeff Bezos, Elon, Zuckerberg.

They want that because they know it just goes to me and you. It doesn't go to them because they're not making any income. You have to change tax codes to target people who have mastered the art. of hiding their wealth. And they find, dude. You have a president who's made his entire career. You're going to fuck it up, Chris.

I'm just telling you, everybody's on board with this, and then you make it about a guy. I'll take it a step further. I just said the other three guys, I'm not against him if it happening for him either. Make it bipartisan. I'll take a step further.

You said don't tax LeBron. That's fine. I would stop. I've always been very against the idea of taxpayers underwriting these sports arenas. Right. Oh.

Talk that shit. Fuck that. Why do I got to pay for the arena? Why are these guys getting a fucking break? And I can't even get free tickets to a game. I'm serious. Wouldn't you do that? If you knew that your money was coming from tax pay, wouldn't you be like, look, we know where this money came from.

We're going to get free tickets to the game. In college, the students get free tickets. So should the residents of the place, like the residents, if I'm a resident of Dallas, should I not get free tickets? And a lot of people. A lot of people. A lot of people. probably don't even know this. A lot of people probably don't even know this.

Please explain how an arena gets built. Well, in the case of Barthes... Back the Kins! A guy like Bruce Ratner went... The first thing he did is he claimed intimate domain for Brooklyn. Which is crazy. Where you basically... Downtown Brooklyn is like the hottest real estate market in the world right now.

Okay? He got intimate domain. There was some pushback. But basically he got massive tax cuts that underwrote the construction of the arena. As soon as... Tax cuts, they got funding. Funding. Not funding.

We fund it. Funding. The city buys your arena for your team. He sold to the Russian guy who owned the Nets for a long time. He's out. And the value of these teams keep appreciating,

appreciating. But the taxpayer is the one who's footing the initial bill who's paying for the whole setup. The pushback, though, Chris, it's not my pushback, but just what people would say is all of the jobs it creates.

A handful of jobs. Check it, check it. All the jobs there creates, right? All the jobs. Minimum wage. gigacons. Chris, you can't kick the cameras for the video podcast. I'm getting excited here. It's a 200, it's a 245% tariff on China right now. Yeah, exactly. And we're going to get to that one second. But right, so real quick. So what did you say exactly? Chris, it was, oh yeah, so the tax, so the tax break on it or the, or the jobs that it creates, right? I'm really interested in wages.

if it costs billions of dollars to build one of these arenas, I'm really curious in wages to low and middle income workers. How much money, or how long it will take to erase the $6 billion or $2 billion or whatever it is we put up to build that arena? You see what I'm saying? You also have to include all the, tourists that it brings all the

everything it does for the economy around, the city around the arena, the restaurants. Yeah. Like all of that. All of that goes in the play. And they're able to build, like if you think about it, if you ever been to the Barclays, since, you know, it opened, think about all of the new shit that's around the Barclays. You know what I mean?

So then here we go, ready? This is, you know what? You make up a great point. I'd like to take that back. Okay, you can look that up, I'd like to take that back. So you're saying, Charlemagne and God, that when government intervenes with serious money to spend on projects that develop areas in cities that may not be developed, that it increases jobs, increases opportunities, and increases tourism. Absolutely, but here's the thing.

Let me just get this point out. So imagine if each one of these cities with an Amazon factory got a nice tax bill at the end of the year, a fair tax bill. Imagine what they could build in their local communities, the jobs that they could create. Because if we're funding these things anyway, it'd be nice if the people that are making trillions of dollars wouldn't mind kicking back a little something themselves.

You're right. The only problem is, and listen, I'm not pushing back, just for the sake of pushing back, because I'm not really pushing back. I'm just saying what the truth is. When these things happen, these neighborhoods end up being too expensive for the people who've always lived in these neighborhoods

when they were bad, to live in. Well, you see that with commercial real estate around Barclay. Absolutely. All the mom and pops have got pushed out. Yeah. Gone. Okay.

Now, obviously, that sucks. That's unfortunate. It is also great when somebody years ago bought one of those places, and they're from the community. They're not just a person who owns a bunch of buildings, but they took their investment from their job and they invested in that community. They lived in that community for decades and then get this opportunity to make generational wealth because of that investment they made in that community.

And I know that those are few. were far between, but it is really nice. When you hear those stories, it's a beautiful thing. Yeah, that's usually what they do. They go to these areas. They just don't pay top dollars, especially back to the imminent domain shit that fucking pisses me off. The worst offender is actually Yankee Stadium.

I'm looking at up. Oh, wow. It costs more. This is the new one built in 2009. Yeah. $2.3 billion to build. The Yankees put up $670 million of that. The rest, 1.1.1.8.

$8.6 billion came from public money and tax breaks. That's all, you know. I wouldn't give nobody in the Bronx for your tickets, though. Sorry, Bronx. I can completely understand. Not a Bronx. Okay. I can completely understand if you don't want Bronx breakfast.

You get rid of the zoo in the Yankee Stadium, Burm? Ain't nobody going to the Bronx, bro. It's like, they need that shit, bet. They need that shit, bet. Shout out to the Bronx. Shout out the Bronx. What happened if you took a billion dollars and put it into the South Bronx?

No Yankee Stadium. Or an old Yankee Stadium that people are going to show up to regardless. It depends. It depends. Chris. I'm not, listen, I'm with you. Here's the thing about all of that money and all of those resources.

You've got to give it to the right people who know what to do with it. You can't let you. This is what happens. And this is, let's just be honest. Let's call it what it is. When government is left to its own devices to do these projects, nothing gets done

or not enough gets done. When the private sector that has, experience in it does it, you get Yankee Stadium built, you get Barclays built. So maybe there is this version where we let private sector people profit off of these endeavors that we know are beneficial to the city. But that's what the private sector is supposed to be for, to me anyway, right? I'm going to tell you what I mean about that. The private sector is supposed to fill in the gaps that the government has over, to me, right? Because there's certain things we know the government is not going to do. There's certain people we know the government is not going to touch.

We know there's certain, you know, issues, places, the government don't even know what the fuck is going on. That's why you need people who can do the free enterprise thing, build their own businesses, take their money and their resources and put it into these cities, put it into these people. To me, I just feel like private sector should come in when government fails. Yeah, I mean, but also private sector could just make a sneaker store that's really cool and we want to buy sneakers there. But are you employing people from the community? Yeah, or not. Or maybe not. Like, it could be whatever I want.

But then that's whack to me. That's what I mean. If I'm a private sector, I create a dope cool sneaker store, put it in the Bronx, hire people from the Bronx, pay them a fair wage. These people can come in this place every day and, you know, make their money, also be attached to the cool sneaker or whatever it is and live a cool existence in the Bronx. I mean, I think that's cool if those are the people you think are qualified for the position. But I don't think you have to hire from that. Like, let's say you should, though. No, I don't think so.

Like, let's say, for example, you have a, let's say you have a Mexican restaurant, right, in the Bronx. And it's authentic Mexican cuisine and the kitchen staff that you want come from a specific place in Mexico, and they've been making this cuisine for 200 years. I don't think you should have to hire Dominicans and Puerto Ricans in the Bronx just because they live there. I think if you want to put out a product, you hire the people that make that product the best possible thing. And if you can ingratiate yourself to the community, you'll probably have more success. the more that you make the community feel welcome in your place, the more success you'll have,

but it shouldn't be like mandatory to do. I'm not going to say it shouldn't be mandatory, but I think it is good business. I agree with you on that. Yes. But I wouldn't say like you have to do it. Do you know what I mean? Like it's a must.

Like there are certain things that you want to maintain whatever cultural attribute that thing has. And in order to do that, you might not be able to hire from the direct community. And the thing I'm saying about private sector, like for me, right, as a business owner. I'm able to use my money to do what it is I want to do.

Like, I know that, you know, government funding might be not what it needs to be at this HBCU, but I can provide scholarships, right? I know that this area over here, you know, might have a shortage of jobs for people in the community, but I can set up something and hire people from that community. That's why I mean when I say private sector should step in when government fails. Because government should be, government should be able to provide for the poor and disenfranchised if we were taxing the wealthy. Exactly. Now, here's a good thing about, this is interesting.

You said that we put how much into the Yankee Stadium, whatever? How much over a billion? Okay, so the American taxpayer put over a billion. Now, I don't see the Yankees selling anytime soon, right? But let's say Barclays sells, right? Let's say if the New Yorkers put $600 million into Barclays and then it sells, we need that money back. fan. That wasn't a gift. An investment. That was an investment.

And I want, and I want, if we're putting up that much for it, just like any other investor, we get that piece of the pie. And I think that, uh, why? Because they they can say, well, I provided all these jobs, so that chips

away at the investment. I brought all this money coming into the area. Revenue to the city. Yeah. No. That's chipping away. You providing jobs got nothing to do with anything. When you say you provide jobs, People are taking a chance, risking their own money, opening up a business around Barclay Center. You're not giving them money to open up the business. No, the people that are working at Barclay.

Okay, so a few hundred people. That's not jobs. But then you bring tourism. It is, but what I'm saying, it's not considering, like, what that whole community can be. Like, all the restaurants that are around it, there's barbershops, there's clothing stores, there's residential housing. I think we forget that when... If Barclays wasn't there, then you wouldn't have brought all that revenue to the area. So then they can be like, you know.

But I think we forget one thing. When you're talking about 300 jobs, you're really talking about thousands of people. Let me just real quick on that. I just want to say it's like that may happen or they may not happen. You're not directly providing them. For example, the team could go up, nobody could show up, and then the team folds in a year. So those restaurants and residential things that pop up out of it, you're not providing them. Other people are taking massive risk hoping that your investment, that the citizens of

that city paid for works out. You're not taking away the risk. What we're doing by giving you $600 million in capital is we're taking a risk on you with no real reward directly connected back to us. If the city funds $600 million worth of a $2 billion project, let's call it $500 million, we should own 25% of that project as the city. We could have no ownership stake in terms of what happens in the company. Obviously, private sector works better. But when there is a sale, in the value of the company, like, let's say it goes from two to four billion, we should get a billion back. We put 500 million, now it sells for double.

You owe us one billion just like you would owe the bank a billion if you took out a loan for it. One thing that you said... Is that like, this seems like basic economic... The counter argument to this has always been, if you as a particular city or state enacted those laws, then the teams would all just rush off to other... But they wouldn't, though. See, that's the...

Not if all states came together. By the way, that's the game of chicken that people should start playing. Go to Ohio and do your team then. That's what I'm saying. I dare you. But you don't want a team in New York City? You really think the Nets was going to stay in Jersey? Fuck out of here.

Like, no, let's go to Brooklyn. Fuck out of here. Because Brooklyn is the new hotspot. But I want to go back to something that you said about the people who invest around, right? They would never probably have made that investment if it wasn't for something like the Barclays Center. And that's why those big investments are good, right? I'll give you an example. In South Carolina, Volvo built a half a billion.

plant in an area called Ridgeville. There's no other industry in Ridgeville. Immediately, what do I do? I go buy land all around. Yeah, smart. Ridgeville. I wasn't thinking about Ridgeville prior to that. So that's why those things are good.

That's why a Barclay Center is good. Are an arena anywhere is good. But did the city give Volvo money to build the factory? I don't know. Maybe they gave them tax. I'm not sure. Maybe they got some tax incentives. All right.

But, okay, but tax incentives are different. I'm okay with tax incentives, right? Like if you want to film a movie somewhere, you're going to be bringing in 300 people. You're going to be using all these different. There's an injection into the economy. So I understand tax incentives there because that money is your tax fare of dollars. Exactly. But if it's actual cash from us, which you have to tax us more to get, right?

Or you have to, I guess, like maybe sell municipal bonds. A lot of it is bonds. Okay. So, ooh, well, that's interesting. If it's municipal bonds, not tax dollars from us, then the people that own those municipal bonds maybe deserve a piece of that. I think the city deserves a piece of it personally. And I don't think that this is a bad idea. I like the idea of incentivizing people to come in with businesses. And I like the idea of tax incentives. But the second you take our cash,

we get a piece of that. If it's taxpayer dollars, I like the idea of us getting a piece of it. And I like that. And I like that. And I like that. And I like that idea of making it mandatory that you got to hire people from the motherfucking city. If it's our taxpayer dollars, Sure. You got to have a certain percentage of people who work here from the city. If you want, we could do. I'm not that. I think that that's going to organically happen because you're not going to fly in 300 people to work at ParkLays.

You think they will? Yeah. Really? I'll give you another example. I'm just using South Carolina because that's home. But there's like Kiowa Island, right? Keow Island is a great resort. People love there, go there and play golf.

But you can be eating at restaurants in Kiowa. And if you're from Charleston, you'll hear an accent. But you'll be like, That ain't geichi. But then you'll talk to people and it's like, oh, we're from the Caribbean. They flew us in here to work for a certain amount of time. And then we go back. And I remember sitting there with my home girl Ashley, Sue to AJ.

I remember like, why wouldn't they just hire people from the area? Why would they fly people in? Because there's programs that actually take people, put them into, like, teach them how to do the, I don't want to, what's the hospitality business? And then they work at these resorts. but I think that those resorts should have to hire people from South Carolina. I think it's a noble thing. I don't think it should be mandatory. I think once you get into DEI, and it's not DEI in terms of like race,

but it's DEI in terms of like area or whatever. Like once you get into like forcing companies to hire a certain way, it's harder for them to control the outcome because they're not hiring based on merit. They're hiring based on location. So I think it just potentially fucks up products. What if you took those people and trained them? What if you took those people from? I'm just trying to make our taxpayer dollars benefit us.

All of this money that we're kicking out in taxes, I want them to come back to the poor and disenfranchised. Why not take people from those areas, train them, and then let them work there? I guarantee you if business flourishes in an area and they actually pay their tax debt as they should. Oh, actually, I can't guarantee you because government will find a way to fuck it up. That's the thing. And that's why I think government should be working with the private sector. I'm not against the private sector coming in.

Dude, you don't even have to pay us the city back based on the new valuation of the franchise. Pay us back on whatever a mortgage rate is. So like if we give you $600 million to make it, you sell it 10 years later, 6% a year on those. I think that's fair because realistically, these rich people, they could also just get a loan out from the bank. Right?

Like they could, so just we'll match whatever the bank would give. you. You're still incentivized to make your money. We get our shit back and we get all those jobs. This to me seems incredibly fair. And if the business loses money, we took that risk with you. But if it makes money, that makes more sense. Give me a little something. I don't think that's crazy. It's also never been one that's lost money. That's the thing. It's like baseball will probably be the first sport to fall apart. And that's going to be interesting to see what happens. Well, let the record show The last U.S. President to tax the rich was Barack Obama

The American Taxpayer Relief Act He's also the... I mean... I mean, he did what you wanted him to do. Don't hate now. No, he did it. He gave Goldman anything they fucking want. Okay. Like, stop it.

That's not the example you want to use it. Well, it is. It's true. The most recent U.S. president to implement significant tax increases on high-income earners was Barack Obama. But that's the exact thing we're talking not about. Oh, you don't want it to be high-income earners. You want it to be actual corporations.

Tax people proportionally. But what happens is... Well, he did something called the Buffett Rule. Ammington insured that millionaires pay a minimum effective tax rate of 30%. We're not worried about... That didn't pass Congress, though. We're not worried about millionaires. We worried about...

That would impact the billionaires as well. I'm worried about corporations more so than the billionaires because even the individuals, you can't tax them because they'll find ways to not even make money. Or they'll keep them in these... It's all about the loopholes. You've got to close up the loopholes. And then when you close them up, they're going to make new ones.

but it has to be a conscious effort every single day. And that's essentially like, this is going to sound like I'm supportive of bureaucracy, but like capitalism is amazing. It's incredible. It's brought more people out of poverty than any other system that exists in the world. But we have to recognize that there are times where it can be disadvantageous to the people within that country if it is done with such a level of greed that there is a lack of concern. That's a socialist talk.

Socialist talk. No, no, no, it's not socialists talk. Actually, smart, smart capital. That's, yeah. Compassionate capitalism. Stop even using that word socialism because it frees people out. Like, compassionate capitalism. By the way, that's what Bernie fucked up too.

I'll be honest. I don't think when corporations don't pay their fair share taxes is capitalism. I think that's theft. I'm just talking about regular capitalism. If they're following the rules, technically. Yeah, it's not definitely following. We also have a situation where 20,000 IRS agents just resigned yesterday. The failure to pay taxes, not me, I pay my taxes, but the failure

for a lot of people to pay taxes is going to be at an all-time high right now. They should have told me that shit? There was tax day yesterday. I wrote a nice check. We're the first ones they come for. Who do you think is the most recent U.S. president to enact a significant increase in the corporate tax rate? It's not corporate tax rate. It's the enforcement. It's not the rate is the issue. He enacted a significant... Yo, shout out my man, Bernie knows these taxes. Bernie's just texted.

Who's the last person that tax corporations? Bernie's just text. Bill. Who? Big Bill? Big Bill. All right. You know, big Bill Clinton.

And because when you go back and you look at the national partnership for reinventing government, one of the reasons that America was able to have a surplus through that whole time wasn't just because they went through the government and they found a lot of ways, it's because they taxed these rich-ass corporations. In 1993, he signed the Omnibus. Reconciliation Act, which raised the corporate income tax rate from 34% to 35% for corporations with taxable income over $10 million. This legislative change was part of a broader effort to reduce the federal deficit and

marked the last time the statutory corporate tax rate was increased. Big Bill. I don't know why fuck Democrat, fuck Republican. I don't know why people... It's not the corporate tax rate, Shara. What is it then? Did you just say Bernie Sanders just texted? Yeah, but like the one we all get.

So what is it? Oh, this is begging. So if it's not the corporate tax rate, what is it? It's tax loopholes. So it's like you could make the corporate tax rate whatever you want. What they'll do is they'll take the corporate headquarters and they'll put it in a country that gives them tax incentives. Like I think Ireland was doing this. Ireland was Apple is in Ireland.

Yeah. So it's like that should be illegal. Keep the corporate tax rate. Yo, you could make the corporate tax rate 10%, 15%. It don't matter the percentage. Right now it's 0% when they could just take the headquarters and put it in a country where it's zero. It does matter the percentage. 35% is a lot.

They hate that shit. That's why Bill Clinton was the last person to do it. No, again, that's what I'm saying. I would rather it be lower. Like, I'm basically saying to these corporations, yo, let's find a number that we think is fair and payable. And now we're going to close this loophole where you cannot pay it, but we're not going to gouge you at like 40, 50%.

We could do 15, but you've got to pay it. And we're going to close all the loopholes so you can pay it. And we're going to give you a leeway. We're going to give you a year or two to organize. your structure so that you can pay these things without shaking up the stock market and making looking like your dividends aren't paying out the same that they used to be. We'll give you, we're going to work with you, but you can't not pay because when you don't pay, you're not part of capitalism. That's oligopoly. That's fascism. Who is the most? I don't really know

what fascism is, but it sounds like it. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. But is it, is it, what is it called? I mean, that's fair. But the question is it's a corporatocracy? Is that the idea? Suppose Tim Cook then turns around and says, fine, I'm going to give you your 15% and pay it every year. But I got to pass that along to somebody. So now iPhones are 2000. Yeah, I dare you to try that shit. And then the free market in a capitalist society

will tell you how often I want to buy an iPhone. Do it something. Do it with something else other than iPhone. These motherfuckers are going to spend $2,000 on iPhone. Okay, well, if we're going to spend $2,000 on iPhone, then we got $2,000. What I think will happen is that people will start going, you know what, I don't need a new iPhone every year. I need one every two years.

And then you know what you just did? You sold your iPhone for $1,000 a year, which is the same price. So the free market is going to let you know what time it is. And that's why I believe in capitalism. You're right. They're stealing. Let's not call it capitalism.

You're right. Except for iPhones. Motherfuckers. I get an iPhone once every four years, man. I hate getting in. I knew iPhones. But do we? I don't believe you.

Number one. Oh, no, that's the truth. Me, dead ass, I get into love. You believe me. When the last time you got an iPhone? I was 13. When the 13 come out? And I was late.

I don't even remember. I was late. Most people get them shit when they drop. There's no need to. Bro, I don't do that shit. I agree with you. Because you're there with a time when you did your update on your iPhone, that shit would start fucking up.

And you would have to go buy a new one. Okay, listen, the most recent U.S. president to successfully implement measures targeting corporate tax avoidance. Who you think it was? The last president who successfully implemented measures targeting corporate tax avoidance. So he closed up the loopholes. So you think it was? I don't believe it closed up the loopholes.

But Barack Obama. Joe Biden. Well, we know for a fact, he didn't close. Oh, well, actually, I guess he did. That's why Amazon pay. The inflation reduction act. How much did the Amazon pay? Last year?

Zero. How much is? You're right? No, no, no. It's like, get the fuck out. No, this was 2022. In August 22, he signed the Inflation Reduction Act and introducing a 15% minimum corporate tax on companies with at least $1 billion in profits.

Can I tell you? The legislation aimed to ensure that large corporations such as Amazon and FedEx, which had previously paid little to no federal taxes contributed to a fair share of a federal revenue. But they don't. So, and we just proved it because last year. And prior to that. it was Obama. So we just proved last year they paid zero. So we know that they don't

do it, but they should do it. But we've got to give Trump props. 2017. Tax cuts and jobs act. Reduced the corporate tax rate from 35 to 21, but did not effectively close existing loophole. Yo, what Well, that just makes the problem worse.

Well, when he did actually, so what he did start to do, like Trump did a few things. I don't know if you remember that shit. Like, basically there was all these like a write-off loopholes that we all used to do where you go, oh, I could, if I work for a company I could just write off all my meals as part of it. And now you have to be

the corporation in order to do it. Whereas before you just had to work for the company, and then everything you did in your life was a write-off. So they're making little... The write-off weren't as good as the suck-off stuff. No, the suck-off is crazy, bro. It's crazy. I mean, he's known for it. Yeah. That's good.

Just as you're fucking putting this shit on your lips and talking about it. You look like that was crazy. What? What? He's getting ready for us. I'm not joking. You don't know. What's the suckoffs is? What's the suckoffs? I'm not doing it.

It's not even... What's the suck-off? It's not even the same. Don't even... All right. You want to hit these big roads? Hit the ads. Oh, okay.

Let's do some ads, man. Let's do some ads. You want to do Squarespace Show? See? Thanks again. But tax the rich is the moral of the story. Tax the corporations. Yes, tax the corporation.

I'm paying my share. Maybe tax the billionaires. That's the language. Tax the corporations. I'm telling you, if you tax the corporations, you don't even got to worry about the billionaires. They're never going to pay taxes. Warren Buffett already told you to your face.

He's like, I don't pay shit. My secretary pays more than me. Well, tax the billionaire corporation. Because all of them are billionaire corporations. Well, here's a, yeah, yeah. Boom, done. Because these billionaires just pay themselves as a corporation. So they just operate as corporations constantly.

So there's not even individuals. They're not even making any. No, they're not. No. Church announcements, Hessey. What you got? I want everybody to go watch Derek Poston. He put out a new comedy piece on Don't Tell Comedy.

Okay. What's Don't Tell Comedy? Don't Tell Comedy. This is an amazing platform. They start on YouTube. They're also on Instagram, TikTok, all the places, but they are privately producing top-level comedians content. They're putting it out there. Things are going viral.

They're building careers. Don't tell it's fantastic. And Derek Poston, any of you guys came and saw infamous, any of you guys came and saw Life. He is the host of both of those tours. He's absolutely fucking hilarious. He is family. This is not just a friend.

This is not just a colleague. I'm telling you, this is family right here. Love you, Derek. He put out this piece. It's absolutely. phenomenal. It's on Don't Tell right now. Go watch it. Go watch it. Go watch it. And then leave comments. Let everybody know the brilliant idiots are coming out there. Let's blow him the fuck up. Derek Poston. I think the title of his How to End Racism. And go check it out right now.

Salute to Derek, man. Go check that out. My church announcement is simple. Saturday, April 26th, Black Effect Podcast Festival, the third annual Black Effect Podcast Festival is happening in Atlanta, Georgia. Some amazing podcasts going to be on that stage. nerds podcast for all the gamers out there. Good moms, bad choices, for all the moms who still want to have a life, too. Carrie Champion is going to be out there with the Naked Podcast. R&B Money Podcast, Tankin'J. Valentine, they're out here smoking shit. They're going to be on that podcast stage.

And Sarah Jake's Roberts will be on that podcast stage as well. And just added, the good brother Cam Newton will be doing his Funky Friday podcast live on stage at the third annual Black Effect Podcast Festival. So go get your tickets. black effect.com slash podcast festival. You know we're going to have the food trucks. You know we're going to have the Black Effect Marketplace. You know we're going to have all of the merch.

We're going to have the D-San pitch your podcast activation out there for everybody who's always trying to pitch a new podcast, the Black Effect. So we'll see you Saturday, April 26th. A couple of weeks, actually. Next week. Next week. Yeah, next week, Saturday. Weekend after this.

Weekend after this, right? Yeah, weekend after this. Yeah, because this will be this weekend, then next weekend. Yeah. So not this weekend, next weekend. Saturday, April 26th, we'll see you in Atlanta. And I also want to shout out Don Staley. You know, the University of South Carolina,

we weren't able to bring home the women's basketball championship this year. But Don's book, Uncommon Favor, will be out May 20th via Black Privilege Publishing, Simon & Schuster. You can go pre-order it right now wherever you buy books. Salute to the icon, live in Don Stead. Is she doing a tour? Absolutely, Don is doing a tour. Come on, man.

To the New York City metro area. Yes, she will be in the New York City. Can I bring my daughter who's very into college basketball and get a photo off? Of course. Yeah. Oh, we can even do it at a more intimate place. All right. Then the book sign it.

Yeah, absolutely. Donald will definitely be in the city when her book drops. Nice. Absolutely. What else we got, Taylor? What we got? What we got? Hmm?

You already went over to jail. You got what? Oh, do the Missinetta look alike. This is, I thought it was a comment. knowledge that Shannon Sharpe and Ms. Netta have a resemblance. And by the way, that's more of an insult to Ms. Netta. Who's Miss Netta?

Okay, look at that picture. You tell me who's Ms. Netta. Stop. Look at that picture. There's three people up there. Listen, I... It's Bunny Marco, Shannon Sharp, and Miss Nettor. Who's Miss Nettor? I just got out the doghouse, bro. For what? I just got out of the doghouse. I'm not having

some questions. It has nothing to do with race? I think that Ms. Neda is in the middle. That's, you're right. All right. What's wrong with that? That's a clear guess. You should know what Funny Marco looks like.

I know Funny Markle. And you should know what Shannon Sharp looks like. I know Shannon. But do you not see where Ms. Netta and Shannon Sharp could be related? Not at all. Not even. Oh, wow. Okay, yeah.

See, Jesus won't even let you lie without mission. Jesus won't know what I'm saying? Jesus won't even let you lie without mission in his name. Jesus said, I blessed you with all of this and you're just going to lie? You know my heart. All of my siblings. You know my heart, man. Honey Marco don't look like none of them.

Yeah, funny. Who's Miss Netta? I don't know Ms. Netta's claim to fame. I just know her from the internet. What does Ms. Netta do, Taylor? I really don't know. See, all I know is that she was in a relationship with some guy and he just got famous because I forgot what they used to say to each time.

I don't know. But yeah, shout out to Ms. Netta. What is this? Why did this say Funny Marco and Shannon Sharp class just because people are upset? Like, I did see some of this. Shout out. You look like Ms. Netter? They do sometimes.

They do sometimes. It used to bother me, but guess what? It don't stop them checks for coming in. And it won't stop them young ones from opening it up. What? Shanna got to stop, stop. Yo, Shanna got to stop saying that. I know.

He don't get, I understand what he means. But you got to be specific, bro. Like, you can't just say shit like that. Kendrick writing something right now. You know what that? Kendrick can write something right. Stop something right now. You can't do that, Shannon.

You can't just say, how does that sound as a woman? Be honest, what you know. Listen, he's a 50-something-year-old man. Right? Yes. So it's different. Young to him is 35.

I know this. I'm just telling you how it sounds. I know. We just got to make sure that everybody knows. He means 35, maybe 37. Let's hope. No, we're not doing that to Shay-Shay. No, we're, come on.

We're looking out for Uncle Shaysh. That's all it is. Why do you try it so hard to be young? Like, just be... He's not. He's enjoying his life. He's enjoying the young ones. Like, I just feel he'll be trying to.

He can't slang dick. Why can't he slang that? We all heard it. You're ready to hear the rest. No, I don't even want to hear no more. No, but he's a mom. He's such a mom now. You're such a mom, dude.

Let me hear. Let me hear it. Let me hear it. Like Ms. Letter to me with that skin, that acne, now that you brought it up, you should have left that alone. You look, put some glasses on. I tell you what, chat. Let's put glasses on. Put glasses on him. Put glasses on me. And let's turn to the side and let's see who looks like Ms. Me. It's you, Shane. Yes, it is. I'm glad you bought that up. But since you took it down, let's go there now. I've got a towel. That we get aggressive. I've never seen that on my life. But I can sue you right now because I'm not. I'm on your show and now I feel embarrassed.

This is a lawsuit. What you're embarrassed for? I was, Shannon. I don't know. I don't care. I don't care. I was you that you went to the doctor. I'm telling you.

I'm on your show and there's 20,000 people watching. I'm a little afraid. Anybody ever told you going like Ms. Marco. And Marco's right when he says, Daugn you don't have nothing to do with it. And then Shannon said, I'm going to put glasses on. You put glasses on.

And we're going to turn to the side and see who will look more like Ms. Netta. Who looks more like Ms. Netta? You look more like Ms. Huh? Well, who do you think, Charlotte? You seem to be... I said Shannon Sharp. It's not even close.

Where is the resemblance that you see it? The nose, the glasses. The manner isn't. I don't know about the-man. Damn. Damn, fine. Move on. Taylor's back.

Taylor's back. Taylor's mom-in-law for a second. Now she's dead. She's a demon. Give me some... Tell, you're a demon. What else you got, Taylor? That was this uncalled boy now.

Damn, Taylor. That ain't make no guy. Why you had to do this? Punk. I ain't make sense. You know Taylor's heart. She's pregnant. Her brain's not working.

You know, women's brains shrink when they're pregnant and never grow back. That's what happened on that episode of Black Mirror. What happened? Remember when she told Tracy Ellis Ross Cagner, she was trying to have a baby? And she was like, oh, that's going to be more than because women's brains. Women's brains change during pregnancy. They do. They get smaller. And you didn't even think it was possible in a lot of weeks.

What is this right here? No, come on. Don't do this. Oh, my God. No. So this is tough. This guy right here? This guy right here

Every week we gotta do this Every week we gotta do this Is this in love on the spectrum? Every week I mean technically they're on the spectrum though So Are they? You've seen the show love on the spectrum right?

But this is not They are not on the spectrum This isn't love on this spectrum At all You don't even know what the fuck The spectrum is It didn't call love on the spectrum though This is about

What is this name of this show? They're both in real chairs It's Pamela and Ray I feel like Oh Jay sorry Pamela and Jay. This is TLC. Okay.

And so this is Pamela and Jay. But they're not on the spectrum. They're both in wheelchairs. That's completely different. No, listen, you'll see. You'll see. Okay, so basically, it's about their love life. But as you see, their own wheelchairs and all that.

So this is just a clip that. That's the best name for the show is just their names? Maybe it's called something else, but. Just put it. Okay, exactly. Okay, hold on. Have y'all. Here it clip.

Post. I'm not person. Can't wait to get to know you. Dirty, dirty, man. Dirty, dirty. Hold on, hold on. You already set this up right now. I'm just, okay, so hold on.

Hold on. Hold on. So let me clip. She feels the type of way. What's her name? What's her name? Pamela's confronting who? No.

Her, I guess, be honest thing now, Jay. Pamela's confronting Jay about something that happened in the gym. He liked the picture. Yeah, but so he's in the picture, though. Yes, that's his trainer. So she was mad that he commented saying, can't get, can't wait to get to know you. So she's feeling a little jealous.

Okay, all right. All right. Start up for the beginning. We're not mature enough. I am. Taylor, can I send you something to pull up afterwards? Yeah. Just text it to me.

All right. Post. I want post. Can't wait to get to know you. Dirty, dirty, moor. Your new trainer? Yeah. What's that all about?

Well, because after my first session, I'm going there, you know, more. So I'm going to have to get the door. And then you didn't tell me she was a woman. Okay. My last serious relationship before Jay, the breakup was paying for. because Mike's boyfriend started dating one of my best friends. Now that we're planning for the wedding, it's like, I don't know.

I feel very vulnerable and very protective of Jay. She took that glove. You should have told me. Yes. That she's a woman? Yes. It's not her fault. Why are you laughing?

Yeah. It's not funny. Are you lying about something? No. Jay is like, wow. like laughing it all and I understand that he has autism that at the same time I've had just really messed up experiences with cheating and him not taking it serious can be triggering. She's just the trainer. But you're laughing when I'm going to up with this concern.

Yeah, I don't think it's funny. It's an uncomfortable like situation. Why? Because you did something more than training? Yo, talk that talk, Pamela. Pamela took her glove off to let Jay know. I will slap the shit out you. Jay was like, yo, I need to grow a beard right now. Okay, to have some cushion. So when I get so happy, okay. That's what that was about.

Jay was like, yo, I got to grow a beard right fucking now. So I can have some cushion from when Pamela slaps the shit out of me. That joke is, that sucks. That joke sucks, dude. That joke is not funny. That joke is not funny. I'm just telling you. I tell you, I watched that shit in real time.

There's no Latinas present. I'm going to be honest with you. I need to start watching this show. When did this show start? I think they're in like their third season or something. Thank you for putting me on. I'm watching the show. Go to the things I just sent you.

I don't like the name, though. Jay and Pamela. Go to the first one I sent you. I sent on Instagram. I forwarded on Instagram. But you can get it up on your screen too? Yeah. Okay.

This is my favorite type of... The first one? The first one I sent you is the earliest one. So not the last one is the earliest one. And then you could play all three. But this is my favorite type of content that I've seen on Instagram. It's a new form of presenting content. You need volume.

Make sure you have volume. And then it's just this is my favorite type of new form of content. That's a thing that people are doing. And I think that you'll appreciate it. Shout out to Jay and Pamela, man. TLC, y'all always ahead of the curb. I just don't like the name. Yeah, because it could be more.

How would you name the show? I don't know. Uh, rolling, rolling, roll. Not something like that. It would be something with rolling in it. You know what I'm saying? Rolling Love. Fuck Rolling Loud.

Rolling Love would be the name of my title. Rolling Love. I like that. Rolling Love would be the name of the show for me. Like Jay and Pamela is just like, eh. And don't give me really the essence of what this show is. You know what I mean? Can't you just get it up on Instagram?

Rolling Love, four-wheel love. Aren't you on your Instagram right now? You don't think four-wheel love would hit? Four-wheel love would be. fire. You don't think it's a car show though. Well, I mean, it's four wheels because it's part isn't it part? This part car show, right? It's not. You guys got to. No, that's dope.

It is, it is. It's a little car show. There's a little bit of a car show, though, just this hat. It's car show and romance. I just texted you. You don't think it's a thing. All right. We need volume. No, hit the volume. I need volume. Make sure volume is on first. All right, now go. Dina, isn't it obvious? Oh, shit.

Wait for it. Oh, my God. What was it? She's from large in Tina. Yo. Somebody says, stop the hate police. She's already got enough on her place. Yo, yo. Okay. Okay.

Oh, the doubt. Say the next one. Send the next one. Guys. You want me to text them to you? Guys, I am not matured enough to have this. Fat jokes will always get me, bro. And I need you to make it real big the screen, like zoom in so we can see.

The screen wasn't already big enough? Huh? Stop. Stop. Listen. So what just happened was, because people say they hate when we watch a video. What happened was... All the way, zoom in, all the way, like, go to make the screen.

Go back, go back. Make sure to have audio. Oh, so it's... didn't do that. No, the people did it. Those are comments on something she posted and it went viral. And this is the comment section. So what they do is the music to build it up. All right, here's another one. I knew you would love this one. All right, ready? Go, go, go. Jack number, I have an idea. Range is fine. Probably somewhere between 50 to 60.

That's good. Not how many of you eating. Man, it is so stupid. 50 to 60 BMI. 50 to 60% risk for heart attack. The lion. What's your body? I'm going to be honest with you. This is cruel, yo.

This is fucking cruel. But when you buy yourself taking the shit and that pops up, bro? Man. Yo, when it goes dark and then you just hear, mm-hmm. That's great. You know the easiest way to not be fashioning? Yeah.

To not be fat. Yo, hey, listen, you gotta start the video over, though, Taylor. We need her every line of it. And then you just... Is fat jokes the first jokes we learned how to tell? Your mama's so fat? Oh, 1,000. Had to be, right?

All right, just... All right, go, go, go back. If you're not at the table, you're on the menu. So, Gen. Let's take our seat in our democracy. Why do you want to be like... Shot. Damn, man, I need to get a burner.

I need a burner so I can start leaving comment today. Oh my God, not the job out of hut means. She ate everything on the menu, including the menu and democracy. I was at the table, but she ate it, so I had to leave. She ate the table and the menus. Jesus Christ, she is deceit. God damn. Hell, she isn't going to take the seat at the table.

She takes the whole side of the table. I am on the menu, so eat me. She has definitely eaten a lot of things. They've got, God, God, not the fucking Shamoo. Man, no. Now, honestly, why is being fat so funny? Son, this is my, I... Yo, when I see it, when I see it's because they're posted themselves.

Oh, you go. Being fat isn't funny. No, it's not. It jokes people make about being fat or fun. Man, that's a great distinction. That's a brilliant idea. That's a brilliant idea. That's a brilliant idea.

That's a brilliant idea. It's not funny. I don't want any people that listen to us who are fat. We got a lot of fat listeners, and I love them, and I appreciate them. Being fat is not funny. It's the jokes people make about being fat. And you know who makes the best fat jokes? Fat people about themselves.

Probably fat people that did that. I'm telling you, you think this is them. You don't think people are really sitting around making these memes. They're doing this to go viral. You need to be genius to think Largentina. Large Argentina is from large and Tina. That's unbelievable. I know, that's great.

And we've been kind of throwing those out. I've been said large Angeles, large Vince. Really? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You probably got to burn it out. I'm sure. You know what's just your? Like Newport City, you're in the Bronx? What? You know what I'm saying? We're from the Bronx, Newport. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Satin Island New Pork. Like, you know, you know where the big ones are at.

Yeah. Right? That's good. That's good. Yeah. But this form of content? Yeah. Hilarious. Oh, hilarious. Why don't I have a burn-up? You need a burner.

What is that? That's the purge, right? That's the purge music? I think so. Bro, if you take that music from us, either the purge or Godzilla or something like that. Take the music from us and put that shit under any Candace Owens video, it is the most terrifying. Oh. You know the music from us where they flip back out five on? You take that music and put it under any Candace Owen's video.

It is the most terrifying shit you've ever heard in your life. I am telling you guys what is happening right now is insane. Right, they are trying to infringe upon our speech. that are getting very dark and very creepy. Where are all of those free speech people who gripped it off of free speech and who won't say anything? This administration, this current administration,

is taking a turn that is quite dark. It is not what we signed up for. Suddenly, there is this squeeze on speech only as it pertains to the special topic of Israel. Candace responded to something that me and Theo said. About being afraid of her? But I didn't know it was about being afraid of her. It was just like, I saw this from Andrew Shultz.

My heart sunk. My heart sunk. I almost called my wife. I go, sell everything. I don't know what I did, but Candice is about to convince a lot of people that I did it. Listen, Kansas. She is not to be played with. Because you don't know what Candice might pull out.

Candice be doing some digging. Let me tell you something. Keep sick solid. Keep sick solid. Post to this somewhere. It was on Twitter, I think. You know, keep six out of the Instagram account. Keep six-a-old posts.

Yo, no, nah, nah, that dude is real, bro. You know him? Yeah, yeah. Do you know him as a human? I know his brother. His brother was in Australia. Came out to the show and I mess up. So he posted this shit.

He goes, if Candice looks into the Drake UMG shit, it's over for everybody. Wait a minute. You are role. You are role. But think about it. If she was interested in it. Is, you don't think? I didn't told y'all a million times.

The only thing you're going to find in that shit is, it's literally like anybody from the 90s, early 2000s who played baseball calling somebody y'all for PEDs. Yo, Charlemagne, she found out that the president of France married a man. Was that proven? It's proven by Candace. Did we see the dick? I can't say nobody's a man unless I see the dick, yo.

A dick doesn't make you a man, you fucking bigot. Let's pay some bills, Taylor. Let's pay some bills. This is crazy. Okay. There's about three things I can take from this clip and make everybody believe Andrew is a straight, fucking liberal. Okay? I'm a liberal.

I'm not nothing. I'm surrounded by conservatives. Yeah. I don't want to be nothing anymore. I just see you on Fox News all time. That's what's crazy, right? What the fuck is going on? I fuck with Fox.

I watch Fox every night. There is nothing. I don't give a fuck what you all say. If you want to be entertained, put God, Jesse Watson. I was watching Hannity and Stephen A. go at it last night. But I like to see all sides. I'll watch CNN to see what they're saying about a topic and how they're covering it.

And then I'll turn the Fox. He watched the same thing. And I have the ability to not be influenced by either. I've just taken the information. That guy on Scott Jennings on CNN cracks me up. We were talking about the deportations. And he goes, I got some new rules. You spend more than 15 seconds at the milk part of the.

the coffee shop. El Salvador. More than 15 seconds at the coffee creamer bar at the coffee shop, straight to El Salvador. Two or more walking side by side on a sidewalk, you're gone. El Salvador. Recline your seat on an airplane, El Salvador. Disney adults, you're going to. And finally, pronouns in your email signature out of here.

Those are my Eos. No, I'm going to be honest with you, I'm so confused about the El Salvador shit. Because if you watch CNN and MSNBC, they tell you one thing about this guy. Then the president of Al Salvador comes on. He's like, yo, he's not coming back. Yeah, the dude from outside, the president of Al Salvador is like, he is a criminal. He was, he was here illegally. How can I return him to the United States?

It's like, I smuggle him into the United States or whether I do the force. I'm not going to do it. It's like, let me the question is preposterous. How can I smuggle a terrorist into the United States? I don't have the power to return him to the United States. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? This court document was going around Twitter and taking him some grand of assault,

but it was said that he was seeking asylum in America because his rival gang in El Salvador wanted to kill him. And it's like, that's the cost you got to pay for being in a gang. Hey, and I'm going to be honest with you, I don't know what's true and what's not true. I'm just looking at all the conversation around this guy, and I really don't know what the issue is.

Because was he here illegally? I don't know. If the president of El Salvador. Was he a member of a gang? MS-13? I don't know. But at what point are we at now? If the president of El Salvador says he is not from America and we're not sending him back.

He actually said it even more fire. He goes, he goes, I cannot physically smuggle an El Salvadorian into America. Yeah, he said he can't ship back. Did he say terrorists? He says smuggle. Yeah, he said, because it would be illegal to bring him in. He said, I can't smuggle a terrorist back to America. I really don't know.

What do you, Chris, what do you think of that situation? I really don't know what the fuck is going on. It's not about this individual. It's about the ability of Trump to lock up people that he wants to lock up going against court orders. I agree with that. But if this is the case to use? I don't know if this guy was here illegally. He was here.

Because if you're defying court orders because you're saying this guy was a gang member, he was here. The lower level court said you must effectuate his return. Okay. Right. The difference and the reason that Trump, I believe wrongly, is claiming that they won. is because the Supreme Court said, I believe the terminology was you must facilitate. So what they're saying is, hey, if this guy shows up at the United States,

we'll let him back in. It's not on us to... Send him up playing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. To me, it's about a much larger thing. It's about what you're seeing with this guy who was part of Trump's administration, who tweeted against January 6th

and the election claims. Trump's trying to investigate him. Leader James, now Trump is going after her. looking to stuff. It's about him weapon. I knew that was coming, though. I know. But it's about him weaponizing the court system. It's about him not responding to the court's

rulings. It's about him taking control. I think it's very dangerous. You think the Democrats did that as well when they were in power? Not saying two wrongs make a right, but do you think that that's something that did happen? Well, I think the difference is the things that, with the exception of January 6th, because there's no precedent for that. I think the things Trump was charged

with are things that he's been charged with in other settings or accused of. What about the Russians? I mean, by the way, it's going to be typical political hypocrisy because, yes, you did push back. You did say Democrats weaponized the DOJ and now Republicans are going to do the same thing. Like, you know that. So that's my only thing is like, let's cry about it both times, not when it happens to the group that we support. Suppose one of them, the person's guilty. Well, was he guilty?

I mean, both of them are probably guilty. Was he peeing on the Russia girls? Like, the whole Russigate shit, you know it was bullshit. I don't think Russiagate was bullshit. I just want to know if this guy is illegal or not. That's what I want to do. He's illegal. I don't know.

I really don't know. He's illegal and he's a gang member. And there was no evidence offered to refute that he wasn't a gang or. Do you want me to read the gang member thing? I didn't, you know, there's another version of it where his family owned a business that was targeted by gangs. Didn't say he was part of the gangs that he had to leave. I really don't know. I just think this is.

Although, sorry, although the court is reluctant to give evidentiary weight to the respondent's clothing as an indication of a gang affiliation, the fact that a past proven and reliable source of information verified the respondent's gang membership, rank, and gang name is sufficient to support that the respondent is a gang member, and the respondent has failed to present evidence to rebut that assertion. That is the court document. By the way, that was a very weak argument by Jesse Waters. Jesse are usually better than that. Jesse said that it's because he was wearing Chicago Bulls gear that he's a member of MS-13. and he was like, the Bulls didn't have a successful season last year. Like, you're not from Chicago.

I'm like, come on, stop it, Jesse. Like, it's the Bulls. I didn't know the Bulls were symbolism for MS-13. Yeah, I didn't either. But I think this is just a really dumb case for the Dems to put so much weight on. Because, like, now there's, like, some Democrats that are going to El Salvador to try to get them back. And I'm like, this isn't the one you fight. It's a dumb case if he is actually a citizen of America.

I don't know. That's what I'm saying. No, no, he's 100% not a citizen. He's definitely not a citizen. Definitely. And he's going to claim asylum and they're going to find out that he is a gang member. And he has been a gang member. It's going to be bullshit and the Democrats are going to look retarded.

I think Alex's point, this is playing right into the Republican Handbook. It's like you're playing right into literally the fucking president of El Salvador was like, yo, you got it wrong. Once the president of the country says you got it wrong, this is where you back off. And then you lock into certain things to make a lot more sense. Because the original story was they were rounding people up and they rounded up somebody. who was not a gang member and they sent him over,

but now they're saying otherwise. I don't know what the real story is all I'm simply doing. Look, listen, it sucks. Actually, I don't know if he's a gang member, it doesn't suck. It's like, we don't need more gang members coming over.

Also, if you're a gang member here and then you come over to seek asylum because the rival gang wanted to get after you, it's like, yo, you chose up. Imagine all, imagine bloods are like, yo, the crypts are coming after me. I need you to give me protection. It's like, well, that's not how it works.

You're right. Chows up. The most important, the other thing that people are not paying an intention to, sure, to Chris's point, this is what people, you know, are. What did you say, Chris? You said people are going to assume this is something larger. He actually said that.

Like, if you want to debate something, debate that. Debate that Trump said he would actually send U.S. citizens to Isle-Salvado. Debate that. Yeah. As opposed to debating, you know, this situation. Am I tripping? You're not tripping. I mean, you know, I was talking on the way over here with a friend, I guess former Democrat who was furious

with the Democratic Party. They're not doing anything. They're not doing enough. They're laying down. I was like, these are the, but then, and I understand what you're saying. Why put all your chips in with a guy who might be guilty?

I just read the court doc. Like, how much more evidence? Well, it's based on the testimony of someone who's a witness. We don't know who he is. I mean, it's within this context of everybody being forced to be part of a gang potentially in that country.

Regardless, the determination of the respondent is a gang member, and it appears to be trustworthy and is supported by other evidence in the record. So why did the Supreme Court namely information contained in the gangfield interview sheet? Well, listen, why did the Supreme Court

both 9-0 to bring them back? I don't, I think it was maybe on the... Because 9-0 is very rare for this. Maybe it was on the case of seeking asylum, but it's like, well... Because technically whatever type of residency he had, you know, was backed up by the court, right? But my point is, everyone's like, and I agree, like this on the surface of it doesn't seem like a smart thing to throw all your weight behind, right?

But Trump is constantly trying to see what he can get away with. And with that in mind, I don't want to support a fucking guy from a foreign gang that's in this country running from another foreign gang. I don't want to get behind that, but I got to stop this guy because I know he doesn't give a shit about it either. He's trying to see if he gets away with this, the next step will be naturalized. U.S. citizens getting sent out. Was it Bito? I'm just asking, I don't know. I'm telling you, these words did come out of Trump's mouth,

so that's a fair thing to debate. But will this case lead to that if they actually are right? There are four more steps in between and this and that. Yeah, so the- Talking to he's delusional. It's like- No, but so the thing is the case was still open, like the case of proving whether or not he was a gang member,

that's still open. And so that's why the court said deporting him was illegal because he still has due process. Oh, okay. But he's here illegally. So you actually don't get due process. You're here illegally. You broke the law by being here. And if he is connected to a gang unit, the gang has been deemed a terrorist unit.

And you're not allowed to be here if you're part of a terrorist organization. That makes sense, too. Like, why are we even spending time on this? I just told you why? No, I know. It could happen. But you're worried about the slippery slope thing. And you're like, Trump is seeing if he can.

can get away. You think Trump even knows his motherfucker's name, bro? He doesn't know his mother name. So he actually was here legally. He came here at 16, got legal protection in 2019 to stay because of the dangerous situation in Al-Azabado. So he was technically here legally. I don't know. So he was here illegally. Legally. I think the conversation should be, I would, I would, I would focus on these words from Donald Trump. Homegrowns are next. Trump hopes to deport in jail, U.S. citizens abroad. That to me is more something that everybody should be debating and asking why the hell would he say that as opposed to this. No, you break the law, man. Hey, man, sometimes you got to go to San Quentin. Sometimes you got to go to El Salvador. No. No. No.

Senator McGreenland. Send him a Greenland. No. I mean, no. And I thought about this when I heard him say it, will that deter people from committing crimes? Like when you know the consequences and penalties are up here. But also, too, why are we wiping our ass with the Constitution? You got to look into El Salvador. El Salvador was the most murderous and dangerous place in the Western Hemisphere. It is now the safest place in the Western Hemisphere

because they started locking up these fucking criminals that are terrorizing normal, hardworking people's lives. And if you ask the people over there, if they appreciate that effort, they are incredibly grateful because they were held hostage by those criminal organizations. Sure, but what's that got to do with sending American citizens over there?

They seem to know what to do with them. Yo, if you, if you... I hope you're being hyperboload. I like people who obey the law. But we have prisons here. We need more. Lock them up. Lock them up.

I think we need taxpayers. If you spend more than 15 seconds at the milk bar at the coffee shop, you're going to El Salvador. Shout out Scott Jennings. Place put that into effect now. We need taxpayers to pay their fair share taxes. We need these corporates to pay their fair share taxes. We have more resources to put in our communities

to try to keep people from being criminals. Yo, why do criminals get to see with their families when they killed somebody and that person never gets to see their family again? I'm with you. If you kill somebody? But there's a difference mean, criminals and murderers, you keep...

Yeah, that's true, but if you're deemed a murderer and you murder somebody, they don't get to see their family for the rest of their life, but you get visitations every fucking week. Fuck you. You locked up in El Salvador. I don't give a fuck.

Why are we not worried about the people's family? That shit sounds good. Well, Staten Island is right there. I don't want to put that in those nice people with Staten Island? There's places in America You murder somebody Hey, San Quentin? Where the fuck is that at?

Cali Callie. San Quentin ain't no joke. Rikers ain't no motherfucking joke. Yeah, but Rikers is not a prison. Anywhere you can get butt-fucked? It's a jail. What, what?

Rikers is a prison. No, jail. No, it's a jail. You still don't want to be there. No, you don't want to be in any jail. Like, people get killed in Rangston. But you should have thought about that before you murdered somebody. I am 100% with you.

Yo, you kill people. You're out of here, bro. China. I wonder why I was Southwood him. Some of China, bro. Like as many prisons in America, why does he feel like they got to go to El Salvador? No, it's because of the rampant crime and the terroristic activity of the cartels out there, they had a stranglehold over the people of the country.

In order to rebuke that, they created these massive jail facilities. So they're housing all these people there, and they become incredibly proficient at it. So they're basically, it's almost like outsource of manufacturing. Instead of making iPhones, we won't send our criminals over there. You know it's ruining prisons in America? Social media. Why? Because they're out there posting and shit.

Yes, you got all of these prisoners. that looking like they're having a good ass motherfucking time. We grew up on anal rape. We grew up on Sodomit. It's true. We grew up on... That just sounds great. We grew up thinking that if you're in prison,

you're getting butt-fucked. That was a good deterrent. Why do you think they call it scared straight? They would scare you. They scare you. You want to stay straight? You want to stay straight? Keep your ass out of prison.

Because if you go to motherfucking prison, they're going to make you a little crooked. Oh, they're gonna make you very close. Well, that shit you say? I don't know. You have to, I'm gonna do it and you gotta decide whether it's, what would you say? What would you say you have to decide whether?

Pay some bills, pay this bill and do some asking. Listen, the callbacks. Listen, there's nothing wrong with callback. Oh, callbacks are beautiful. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. Fantastic. This is comedy.

That's right. This is called comedy. Callbacks are great. Let's pay some bills. What we got for some asking idiots, Taylor Gang? Taylor Gang, Gang, Taylor Hayes, Patrick's mama, PJ's mama. Oh, Mr. underscore A says if you could control any animal species, what would it be in the why? Hmm.

Um, easy call from me. White people? Nah, cows. Oh, why? Whenever a fat person will walk by. have him go me. You know what I'm saying? If you could just have a fat person walk by a cow

and just a whole cat of a cow just start going, me, me, oh, that would be fan-tastic. That's the only reason? That's great. What other reason would you need? I hate you. You wouldn't want some sea animals

because don't you say aliens are in the water? Yo, y'all don't care about aliens. The CIA just the classified documents that said that motherfucking aliens turned 27 Soviet soldiers and so on. By the way, this ain't just the CIA. It was the KGB who said it. And then the CIA said got it from the KGB. So these are reputable people from all over the world saying this. And we like, fuck it.

If there's no picture, I don't believe. There was pictures. Oh, that was pictures? Yeah, there's pictures. Y'all don't give a fuck. Next question. They don't give a fuck. What is Andrews's most?

memorable set aside from his first one. That's from soy. So what is that? Soy Alexander-Way. Yes. I mean, Madison Square Garden. Madison Square Garden. First night Madison Square Garden.

I mean, it's just like, yeah, thought about that for 17 years, so. 17 fucking years. What else we got to tell? I don't want to do that one. Let's see see. Jeremiah J. Thomas says, which do you keep longer socks with holes or underwear with holes? Oh, both.

Nobody kidding. Like, I'm a man, bro. Like, I don't... No, no, no, no. My wife got to throw shit up. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, no, no. You want... That's like cancer and shit. That's just annoying it. Socks with holes. Underwear with holes is crazy. Bro, I got holes where I think I scratched through the underwear. Like, I found holes in the doo-doo area, and I think it's just for me scratching my ass.

Like, there's holes in my underwear. It looks like I got raped. Probably the wash machine or nothing? Maybe it is, but directly where my doo-to comes out and my finger goes in? There's nothing more humbling than white. briefs. Oh, God. I had on some ethical white briefs the other day. Oh, God. It ain't got nothing to do with shit. It's just, I don't know what the fuck be going on down there. Why would they even make that? That shit don't make no sense. I'm like, you know what? I don't need to wear no white underwear at all. No, no, no. The ball sweating. Are you looking down? You're like, what the

fuck is going on? It's like a woman with discharge. Charlie Marciano said, what game or tradition from the 90s do you think that we should bring back? Oh, Charlemagne. What do you think? And everything, man. The 90s were so pure. The 90s is where we just learned how to be. You know what I'm saying? Like when we have these conversations about, you know, tough skin or not being offended and everything,

I think it's because when you woke up in the 90s, you were prepared for whatever. You think about all the nasty shit we used to do in the 90s. You remember that game? I don't know if y'all used to play it up here, but it was like a game they used to play and they'll be like, you know, I forgot how I used to go.

But he was like, what do you want when you grow up? and you answer another thing. And then you'd be like, I want a pool. Like you have your hand out and somebody was spitting your hand. You know what the shit I'm talking about? No. It was something.

I thought I'm talking about MASH. No, it was MASH. That was like that... MASH this dick in your mouth. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hao. Bown! That was an alleyup, Bown! Buh!

Fucked up. There was no need for that. No. It was... Yeah, we called him, Della. You don't ever play match where it's like... I don't want to play with you no whole right. Yeah.

Master for like mansion, apartment, shack, or house or something like that. Yeah, you know. I think that's it. It was something like that. No, it's been your hand, though. I promise you, you have to stick out both in your hands and you would say stuff. And I remember the guy spitting my hand. I got mad as fuck.

He's like, no, no, that's the game. That's the game. El Salvador. If someone spits in your hand, they go to El Salvador. You remember, and you know it's so funny, I was watching the wood the other day. And I was like, damn, you were. I never played. Well, you remember the game, the game when they, they,

days to dare you to go grab a girl's butt? No. You guys have a play that? Edit. No. That's not an edit. That's from the wood. You ever seen the movie?

That was an actual game. Would you ever see in the movie the wood? Guys, that's crazy. You shouldn't do that. No, you shouldn't do it. I know the game where, like, you fart, you got to say safety before your friends say doorknop. And then they can punch you until you touch a doorknop. Damn.

That game was fantastic. Punch buggy. Punch buggy. Punch buggy fantastic. Yeah, you know what? The 90s was the 90s. You was either there. You wasn't.

Slap boxing. Oh, slapbox. Yeah, if you could fight. You couldn't actually box. You didn't want no parts of that shit. That's rough. You know what the 90s was really about doing what you say you did? Y'all like to say y'all standing on business, but we would dare people to do dumb shit

and that they would actually do it. Yeah. I was thinking about that shit the other day when, you know what? No, mine. Did you just like hide and go hit? Yeah. Hiding go, what? Hiding and go.

What's that? What? It was like hiding and seek, but like when you found, it was like boys and girls. We found the girl, then y'all did something. That's some fillet shirt. I found a wrong girl. That's how, first of all, you know that. I didn't know, listen, this is the perfect.

Taylor, I am glad you. I didn't do that. Taylor, I am glad you bought that up because this is Easter weekend. And that is the story of Easter. I've told y'all this story a million times. The story of Easter was there used to be a group of people who used to paint themselves different colors, right? They would paint themselves different colors.

And then they would play hide in. go fuck. And whoever you found, you fucked. Y'all would fuck. So if a man found a man, they would have sex. If a woman find a woman, they would have sex. The man and a woman have sex, they would have sex. That's why the tradition of the Easter eggs is to paint the eggs. That's why it's a bunny because bunnies represent sexuality. Right? That's why Playboy's symbol is a bunny. This is a fact. Guys, if you think that were brilliant, you're absolutely right. Why do they paint themselves? What's the painting part? I don't know.

Why do you paint your nails? And then go see women to have sex. Go. He got to point that. No, I want to go back to the other one. There was another one. We could end with the other one, Taylor. This was good.

Right there. Alexa Green says, does maturing come with a cost? What is the price of becoming mature? Love that question. I don't even think it's a cost. I think it's a value at 100%. I think that you should allow yourself to mature. You should allow yourself to evolve.

I think when you don't, you don't do anything but stunt your own growth. Now, I know y'all come to this podcast and you hear us say, we're not mature enough to have certain conversations. We are. But what you need to understand about a podcast like Brillion Idius is this is where we come to have a little bit of immature fun. but in our personal lives, really? And I mean, not even this in our personal.

Y'all see it in our professional life, too. Very much. We have allowed ourselves to mature. So does maturing come with a cost? Anything you lose from maturing, you've outgrown anyway. Beautiful, so. Beautiful, sir. That's it.

As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast, I think we're just a couple idiots and don't know shit, you're right, too. It's the brilliant idiotous podcast. Thank you for listening.

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