The Brilliant Idiots - China Limes (Feat. Jo Koy)
Episode Date: October 17, 2019This week Charlamange Tha God and Andrew Schulz discuss, Lebron comments on Hong Kong, democratic debates, Mental health, Jo Koy drops by, and much more!!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit mega...phone.fm/adchoices
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I'm going to be a South Carolina State this weekend.
Okay.
South Carolina State homecoming.
You know,
South Carolina State is my mother's alma mater.
Another black woman who was very influential in my life.
Ms. Nicole Bavard.
She graduated from South Carolina State.
I believe she works at South Carolina State now, too.
That's my partner.
But I'm going to be down there all weekend.
I'm going to be down there Friday during a Q&A.
I'm not sure where the Q&A is at.
I just know it's on South Carolina State's campus somewhere.
And you know we'll be talking about my favorite subject,
mental health.
And then Saturday, I'll be at the game
with the president of South Carolina State.
And I got a, I got a number.
announcement I'm going to be making, man.
Yeah, I got an announcement I'm going to be making.
So, yeah, I'll see you.
I can't wait to tell everybody what it is next weekend after it's done.
Okay.
But I'll be making that announcement at South Carolina State this Saturday.
And on October 28th, I'll be in Rock Hill, South Carolina.
I'll be at Winthrop University, okay, having a conversation on improving mental health
awareness with my home girl, Tenitra, Michelle Williams, you know her of Destiny's Child.
Mary Ann Williamson.
I guess we still call Marianne Williamson
a presidential candidate, right?
No.
Arthur.
You know, definitely New York Times best-selling author.
Love Marianne.
She's a cancer like me and myself.
So we're doing this event called Tell Your Story
and it's free food, free conversation.
It's free to everybody.
It's from 2 to 4 p.m.
at Winterp. University on October 28th.
So I'll see y'all there.
Go get it.
And also check out See the God YouTube page.
Oh, listen, you listen, man.
I'm going to tell you something about YouTube.
See the God's YouTube page.
Yes, YouTube.com backslash see to God.
I should have believed in myself.
When I put the girlfriends interview out, I should have believed to myself.
No.
I don't even want to have this conversation.
How long I've known you and how long I've been telling you to do this?
No, you're right, you're right.
But I'm going to tell, listen, this is just the thing.
For some anxiety, you know what I mean?
Like I put the girlfriends out, interview out, right?
Put it on my YouTube page exclusively.
Mm-hmm.
And like I said, we've been doing breakfast club for seven years.
So you want that million in a day.
You're used to that $200,000 in an hour.
You know what I'm saying?
You have no patience.
I'm looking like,
come on, bro.
I'm like, yo, $40,000?
Come on, bro.
I'm like, it's already noon.
So I panicked.
I'm like, Nick, throw it up on breakfast club page.
Right?
I'm like, throw it up on breakfast club page too, man.
I want them to get that look.
You know, our girlfriends means something to me.
I know what they're trying to do.
I know they're trying to get a movie, a miniseries.
They're trying to, you know, get, we want to get interest from networks and shit.
Next thing I know, man, I'm sitting at 400,000.
You know, and then Breakfast Club.
On which page?
On my page.
That's, well, you just let, why don't you text me?
Why don't you fucking ever just text me and I'll tell you exactly what's going to happen?
You know you've got to give it a little bit to hit the algorithm.
Nah, I know, I know.
And Breakfast Club, Breakfast Club page had like 400-something thousand, too, but I was just like.
So now you almost had a millie, but you need to be patient, bro.
I should have just kept it all on my page and I just got this.
But is that a weird way of thinking?
Meaning like, no, we've all done that.
We've all had that fear.
We've had that fear.
Like, I had that fear when I split off the brilliant
It's from my page.
Yeah.
When I split off
Flagrant 2
from my page
and created their own pages,
I'm like,
but will people able to see it
will we still get the numbers,
et cetera?
You know what?
You got to fucking leap.
You got to leap,
and you got to be patient.
And look,
both our pages are already up to 40, 50K,
something like that.
The number's already up to episodes.
I'm at 30K now, I think.
It's going to go.
It's going to go.
It's going to go.
I'm just excited.
I'm not going to lie with it.
They shit it on you, bro.
It's shit on Angelo.
It was like.
What they say?
He was like, yo, that vlog is right.
He said, Angelo.
He didn't say Andrew.
No, Angela.
I just want to make sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They don't know who he is.
They said, man, Andrew, come here real quick.
This is a good learning lesson for you.
Don't take it personal.
Here we go.
There we go.
I'm just saying I put up a vlog from my,
because I interviewed the cast of Blackish this past Sunday.
I was at Paley Fest.
I'm actually putting that whole interview up, but Angelo did a blog.
I thought the vlog was cool.
Somebody said to me, yo, this vlog is all right.
But this shit ain't.
slapping like Alex Media.
I'm just telling you what they said
in the comments.
Alex, why you wrote that, bro?
That's fucked up.
Let him live,
and it took me a while.
Like, what the fuck is Alex media?
It takes a time.
And I was like, oh, Alex.
Just telling you, putting a little pressure on you,
that's all.
I'm with it.
I just feel like...
I didn't ask you to talk.
That wasn't...
I just asked you get to some of his heat.
That's all that.
More shoot.
More shooting. Let's talk.
I just wanted them to see who they
was insulting on
Instagram.
But no, it does.
It's like, it is,
it's not stressful.
And it's almost like, you know what?
You just got to tell yourself,
bro, you're building something.
That's it.
And I don't ever have expectations.
I don't ever look and say,
yo, this is,
I don't ever feel entitled for anything.
And by the way,
it feels good.
I'm not going to lie.
I did the $400,000 on girlfriends,
that shit felt like a good $400,000.
And then the shit I did with Netflix,
the TI Chance interview,
that shit jumped to like 300 plus thousand.
So much.
so that somebody in the YouTube comments said,
oh, he paid for those views.
How did they jump up so fast?
A few days, it took a while.
You know what I'm saying?
Put up the vlog for Blackish,
that shit did like 12,000, 13,000 views.
I like that.
It felt good.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm so proud of you.
I'm so happy for you, and I love this.
I really love this.
And I made $100 already.
Well, you go find out real quick how little YouTube pays.
No, by the way, that's what somebody...
Real quink.
There was a comment under one of my videos,
and they was like, remember when Charlotte used to shit on YouTube
and say there was no money in it?
First of all, I never shit it on YouTube,
but I did say there was no money in it.
I still don't know if there's any money in it,
but it's not about the money.
It's about being able to create your own content
and putting your own content out
and connecting with people on that level.
So the next thing that we're going to start doing for you,
and you let me know if you're committed to this YouTube thing.
I mean, you have to start consistency,
and you have to establish numbers.
But what we'll start doing is we'll start getting our own branded sponsorships
like we do with dropping in, the dropping in series I do.
And we'll start doing those for your content as well.
What's the dropping in series?
That's my vlog.
So the travel vlog that I do.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, got you.
So every time I'm in New City doing the tour, I also do this travel show as well.
And we get those sponsored by, you know, various sponsors.
And that's how you create a TV show.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, why am I going through a middleman that is television when I have direct context to
the sponsors because we're reading the ads here
when I'm creating my own show
if you have an interview with girlfriends
why is that not brought to you by
BetterHelp? Why is that not brought to you
by Squarespace? Oh yeah so you're getting sponsored?
And that's what we'll facilitate.
Yeah, absolutely. That's why we built out the ad
agency as well. Yeah. So it's like
I realize in order to really run this game
you got to own every piece of the pipeline.
Absolutely. And that's what we're fucking doing here.
I will say this. So Chris, you're fired.
He looks fired.
He looks fired. Don't he looks
I wish that you all gonna saw that.
He looked like his key card didn't work.
My God.
You know what else is interesting about that, though?
I do realize I don't like the document.
And this was so good about life, right?
It's all good.
I like, you can really curate your content, right?
Yeah.
Because I'm not one of these people that likes to show every aspect of what I'm doing.
Like, I'm not the guy that's going to walk in the lobby and take a picture of the fucking NBC sign.
I'm not doing that stupid shit.
I'm not saying, hey, I'm here.
I'm here.
And we did a vlog the other day, and I had shot a movie.
I had a scene in the movie, and it's a big movie.
It's a movie that's coming out, focus films, all that.
And I was like, I'm like, I'm not posting that.
Good.
We did a whole vlog from the movie set and everything, and I'm like, I'm not posting that.
You don't post that yet.
Yes, you do it when the movie comes out next fall.
You don't know if you're going to be cut out the movie.
That is very fucking true.
You know what I'm saying?
What you do is when the movie is coming out and there's all this buzz about the movie,
and everybody loves the movie.
They're interested in the movie.
then you drop the vlog because what I do after I watch a TV show?
I'm not getting cut out though.
Listen.
Very poignant scene.
That's what we all think.
I was cut out the Halloween movie so fast, bro.
You're the Halloween?
Yeah.
Get the fuck out of it.
What's the fuck out of it?
I never knew that.
I was in the extra scenes they put it in the end, but I thought there's no way you could cut me out because the scene I thought was very important to the plot line.
You find out why certain people live and certain people die with you.
Yeah.
Well, let me see.
shut the fuck up then. I didn't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It seems like it's moving the story forward.
Yeah, but sometimes they'll just be moving the story forward. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
You know, so that's what I'm trying to say, but that vlog is perfect content because it's like, oh shit, Charlemagne was in this movie and you're curious about the movie. You want to see more? You know how many, you know what I do all the time? I'll watch a TV show and then I'm not done. Then I'll go on YouTube and watch other people talk about the fucking TV show that I just watch because I'm not done. You think I wouldn't watch a movie and see you in it and then want to see you go behind the scenes fucking with the director.
fucking with all these people, et cetera.
Ah, this is so good.
I get it.
I get it.
Listen, all I'm saying is,
Angelo, hold it down
until I find me a black video guy.
Okay?
Oh, now you're black.
All right, now you're black.
When you were peeing on the fucking pickle jar
in the grocery store,
that was your white boy fun, huh?
Now you're a black man.
So what are we doing?
Are we going to continue?
Are we going to...
Okay, so basically what's going to happen
later at some point in time
in this episode is we did a,
interview with Joe Coy.
And Charlamanman was finishing a breakfast club.
So he comes in about maybe 10 minutes into the interview.
So if it seems weird that he's not there for 10 minutes, that's what it is.
We'll put that somewhere in the episode.
But let's keep on going where we're at right now.
Let's go, man.
Let's start with LeBron James.
Well, first of all, I just want to say, you know, that this podcast is brought to you
by the great leader, Jim Ping of China.
And that we would in no way go again.
It might be where these mics me?
Where would these mics me?
You're not lying.
Where would he fucking bored made?
We don't know.
You bullshit.
So, LeBron had a week
to figure out a statement to make
on the NBA China situation.
He really didn't.
He had a whole week to put that together.
No, no, no.
I'm not saying he had to say shit.
He had a week to decide if he wanted to say.
say shit. And then if he was going to say shit,
he had a week to cultivate
the perfect response to this
Chinese situation. Well, let's give him a backstory for people who don't know.
Okay, sure. Darry,
GM of the Houston Rockets,
right? He put out a pro-Hong Kong
tweet. He tweeted a picture.
Yes. It said,
Stand for Freedom, support
Hong Kong. It's really
not that crazy. Stand for Freedom,
support Hong Kong.
Now, was he an idiot for doing this?
Yes.
Hold on.
Chris, come in.
Hold on.
Give me a shit.
Give me a shit.
I just want Chris to tell us why Hong Kong and China are beefing.
He don't know.
30 seconds or less.
He don't know.
Just tell us why Hong Kong and China are beefing.
Because I know nothing about this shit.
Right.
Hong Kong was a territory of Britain up until about 15 years ago.
And Britain signed a 99-year lease to control the territory of Hong Kong.
and it was administrated by Britain.
It was basically run under Western-style rules,
and people have some Western-style lifestyle
with courts and press
and all the freedoms that we're used to.
A little more freedom than China.
A lot more freedom.
China's one of the most repressive,
and that's kind of at the core of what the issue is.
And now, China, when Hong Kong was returned to China,
China said that they would continue
to let Hong Kong operate under the rules
and systems and expectations
that they had become used to.
No, no, no.
However, now they're starting to tighten the noose a little bit, right?
Gotcha.
And that's what set off these riots.
The thing that set off the riots was they said that they were going to, if you were
convicted of a crime.
Sorry.
What the fuck?
If you were convicted of a crime.
In Hong Kong.
We got a new board, but keep going, Chris.
Instead of being tried.
That was Chris.
Anyway, I thought you didn't like this shit.
I hate it.
They fucking hate it.
So now the idea is that if you were convicted of a crime in Hong Kong,
instead of being tried in Hong Kong,
they could extradite you back to mainland China,
and you would be tried there.
And in mainland China, there's basically no rules.
You're completely at the mercy of the Communist Party.
So worse than like a Commonwealth state in America?
Oh, yeah, totally.
There's no true legal due process.
Everything's bribes.
Everything's controlled by the Communist Party.
You can steal a pencil and get 100 years in jail if they want to give it to you.
Let's say you didn't.
steal the pencil. Let's say you bought it. They're like, you stole it.
You can disappear tomorrow in China.
So in Hong Kong, you get accused of a crime.
They're like, well, we'd like to try you for that a crime your cues for in China.
And they're like, well, shit, I don't want to go over there because you just take me out.
Yeah. So they're fighting to not have that happen, which is completely reasonable.
And that's where this whole thing kind of started.
And it's not just Hong Kong. You got to understand that it's Tibet where they're, you know,
basically taking over the country and bringing all the people under the Chinese system against their will.
It's also there's a huge ethnic minority.
I don't know.
Ughurs.
How do you pronounce it?
Uyghurs.
Uyghurs.
Is that like the niggers of China?
In a way.
You said it.
That's how they treat them essentially.
I mean, they're the Muslims.
They're Chinese Muslims.
So they look Chinese, but they practice it, you know, Islam.
They have mosques.
They're tearing the roofs off of mosques out there.
They're setting up what could be considered, yeah,
or concentration camps, depending on who you ask.
The China's horrible.
It's a terrible place.
But we've always known it was horrible.
So when this guy, Darrow Morey, puts out the pro Hong Kong tweet, he's not wrong.
He's 100% right.
And it was the most innocuous shit you could say.
Yeah.
I mean, who could pass?
That's why, to me, LeBron's statement was really disappointing.
You got to understand.
We have a statement.
Hold on.
Hold on.
We don't even need the same.
Yeah, we really get.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold up.
No time you got the soundbite right there.
Hey, wait for it.
Try to do things to make my family proud.
Make my fans proud every time I step out of the house.
So I don't know what from you.
That's what it is.
Well, Braun, do you get where the criticism comes from, like, as complex as the issue is?
I said that again.
Let's hear and ask.
Do you get where the criticism comes from, like, as complex as the issue might be?
I think generally it's talking about freedom of speech and human rights issues.
How do you kind of process this sort of?
I don't know.
I mean, it's obviously it's a, I mean, it's a tough situation that we're all in right now as an association.
as us as athletes, owners, GMs, whatever, so forth.
And I think, you know, when the issue comes up,
if you feel passionate about it or you feel like it's something you want to talk about,
then so be it.
I also don't think that every issue should be everybody's problem as well.
You know, so, you know, when things come up,
there's multiple things that we haven't talked about that happen in our own country
that we don't bring up, you know.
It's things that happen in my own community that, you know, trying to help my kids graduate high school and go off to college is, you know, what's been my main concern over the last couple of years, you know, in my school.
You know, trying to make sure the inner city kids that grow up in my hometown can have a brighter future and look at me as inspiration to get out of the, you know, the hell hold of the inner city, you know, and we don't talk about those stories enough.
But we tend to, you know, want to talk about so many other things as well.
So there's issues all over the world.
And I think the best thing we can do is, you know, if you feel passionate about it, talk about it.
If you're not, you don't have a lot of knowledge about it or you don't quite understand it.
I don't think you should talk about it because it just puts you in a tough position.
Take you on advice.
Last question, please.
I plan on being here, being the captain of this team and trying to figure out of the way how we can win a championship.
That's my main goal right now.
I feel like I talked about yesterday.
I tweeted out a couple of responses
to people not understanding
my knowledge or what it came from
from my brain
and for me learning from the situation.
I'm talking about it now
and I probably won't talk about it again.
I was thinking about the statement
that said,
I don't want to get into a word
or sentence feud with Darry.
Well, we can put it in later,
but basically he said,
I don't want to get into a word
or sentence for you with Darrell Mori.
So let's put some context real quick.
Okay.
So that statement
is a, I made a boo-boo
yesterday.
So that was the cleanup.
This is the cleanup.
The one we just played
was the cleanup.
We played the cleanup.
Okay.
The initial statement
is the one Charlotte's about to read.
Yes, I don't want to get into a word
or sentence few with Dowell Murray,
but I believe he wasn't educated
on the situation at hand and he spoke.
And so many people could have been harmed,
not only financially, but physically,
emotionally, spiritually.
So just be careful what we tweet
and what we say and what we do.
Even though, yes, we do have freedom of speech,
but there can be a lot of negative
that comes with that too.
That's just my belief, I don't know.
That's my belief.
That's all I can say.
I believe he was either misinformed or not really educated on the situation.
And if he was, then so be it, but I have no idea.
That's just my belief that when you say things or do things and you know the people can be affected by it.
And the families and the individuals and everyone that can be affected by it.
Sometimes things can be changed.
And also sometimes social media is not always the proper way to go about things as well.
But that's just my belief.
Now, I saw somebody also tweet out yesterday.
I don't know if this is true, but I haven't heard it anywhere.
They asked LeBron to say something about China.
and he was like, I'm not a politician or something to that effect.
I don't know if that's true.
I thought you're more than an athlete.
He is more than an athlete.
But you know what he is?
He's a corporate, he's a compassionate capitalist.
There we go.
He's a compassionate.
So you can be more than an athlete and part of that more is being a compassionate capitalist.
Now, what is a compassionate capitalist?
A compassionate capitalist is somebody that cares about the issues of people, right?
But you don't have the same compassion for all people.
And by the way, that's it.
That's fine.
Bro.
That's perfectly a-O-K.
Let me tell you something.
We were talking on the Flagrant 2 Patreon episode about this exact thing.
And when I criticized his initial statement, the one you just read, I said, I wish he said what his follow-up was.
That's all I wanted anybody to say.
I don't remember the whole thing, but he said something to the effective.
Yo, I care about my community.
I care about that.
You don't got to care about anything else.
Listen, you actually don't even have to care about your community.
But the fact that you're doing that is great.
You don't have to solve every problem in the world.
That's 100% okay.
I just want someone out here.
I just want people who aren't being hypocritical and being honest, being selective with their outrage.
Somebody asked me yesterday.
It's okay to be selective with it.
Yes.
Somebody asked me yesterday, somebody said, do you care if people in Hong Kong are oppressed?
And I said, yes, I care about anybody being oppressed.
I think I want them to be liberated.
But that's that.
I care less.
No, I'm not going to say I care less.
I just don't know.
What am I going to do?
That's all I can say.
Yeah, of course I care about liberation.
But like LeBron said, we got things going on in our own backyards right here.
No disrespect to them.
Yeah.
But Dick Gregory used to say something all the time.
He's like, Dick Gregory used to say, stay out in white folks' business.
So I'm like, stay out of them Asian folks' business.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
You know why LeBron can't stay out those Asian folks' folks' business?
Because he makes so much money in China.
That's really all the shit boils down to.
That shit is about money.
Yeah.
LeBron's business is basketball.
That's him, his son, Rich Paul and Sports Management.
They sell sneakers over there.
They got Space Jam 2 coming out.
If that shit don't sell in motherfucking China, that shit probably won't hit big box office numbers.
All he cares about in that situation, when it comes to that, his compassion is for his bag.
That's why I liked what he said with the follow-up.
Because the initial thing, the biggest problem I had with the initial thing was when he said,
I don't think that Darry should talk about this issue.
He was ignorant or uninformed, right?
Misinformed.
He was misinformed or whatever, right?
That was my biggest issue because you're out here saying,
that you should speak on your issues,
but you're telling someone
not to speak on an issue
that it could affect you.
So that's where the hypocrisy comes from.
I don't care if he only cares about the inner city community.
I think that's awesome.
Great. You don't have to care about everybody.
But don't tell other people
what injustices they should care about
based on your dollar.
And by the way, not only your dollar,
your knowledge of a situation.
I don't know what LeBron knows,
but I guarantee you he does not know
about the Hong Kong
Chinese conflict, the way he knows about what's happening with police and unarmed black men in this country.
That's it.
And when he uses the term misinformed, that's very critical because that's not something he would naturally say.
That's straight up Chinese propaganda from the Chinese government.
That's the term that they focused in on to try to attack more.
See, I didn't know that.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a very specific phrase that they're using.
Why that, why that term?
It's kind of like a nuanced.
You don't know the real story.
Right.
That's what it implies.
It implies, hey, you think China, where the bad guys trying to shut down Hong Kong and take away their liberties.
No, you're misinformed.
We're not going to tell you how you're misinformed, but you're misinformed.
Right.
I mean, like, I've been tweeting about it a bit, and they're these like Asian bots.
They'll come at you quick.
These Chinese bots are always responding going, oh, why are you okay with looters and riders destroying property?
And this at the other.
I was like, oh, you are going at specific tweets with specific.
There's a lot of Chinese nationalism at play right now, too, where the mainland Chinese are,
getting their backs up against the wall
and fighting back against anyone who criticizes China.
But I think there's also something going on
where everyone says,
this is so confusing, this is an Asian problem,
we don't understand.
It's not that confusing.
It's pretty fucking simple.
Yeah, but what are we supposed to do?
Well, you cannot carry, you can...
Stop giving a fuck about these motherfuckers.
Let me ask you a question, Charlemagne de God.
You think when a black guy gets killed by the police,
you think that people in Hong Kong give a flying fuck?
I know they don't.
And actually, I saw one of the guys from Hong Kong,
I read the statement yesterday.
He gave like, if he was white and said what he said,
they would say he was doing All Lives Matter.
Because he actually said,
LeBron cares about Black Lives Matter.
Well, Hong Kong lives matter too.
Yes.
This is a guy from Hong Kong.
That's literally like All Lives Matter.
So if he was a white guy in America,
you'd be telling him to shut the fuck up.
And I'm not telling the guy that Hong Kong shut the fuck up.
I just don't know.
Keep talking.
But it's the same energy.
Yo, what do we, what do Chris's, I don't know,
demographic or whatever,
your people with your ideology always say,
why is America interfering with other
countries' business? Why are we getting
involved in these foreign wars? Why are we getting
involved in these foreign problems, right?
And then all of a sudden we're like, and we mind
in our business, it's, well, how dare you not
care about the liberties of the world? When we
go into these countries and we give them, quote, unquote,
freedom, and kill millions of
people to give them freedom, we the assholes.
What we don't, we de assholes. That's why
knowing this fuck. The same shit with Trump right now,
Trump pulls out of Syria, and then all these motherfuckers
who are anti-war, all of a sudden are going, well,
How could you do this to the Kurds?
You don't even know what the fuck a curd is.
A curd is a thing of cheese to you.
You have no clue what a fucking Kurd is.
So the fact that we hop on our moral high ground about this shit is complete bullshit.
You are completely allowed to not give a flying fuck about people in Hong Kong,
just like they don't give a flying fuck about you.
Listen, and by the way, another thing with LeBron that I found very interesting.
The NBA, right, he didn't have to say anything.
Like he didn't, LeBron literally had to say nothing on this subject.
Like there was nothing to be said.
Nobody was done.
I didn't even, I still don't even really know what was going on.
I saw the Dowell-Mory tweet.
I didn't know China went into a fucking frenzy and started pulling shit and all that.
I had no idea.
So why did he feel like he needed to say something?
I will, and I don't like the fact that people are calling him fake, though.
Because I don't think he's fake.
I just think he didn't realize he didn't give a fuck.
You understand what I'm saying?
Oh, he didn't realize until now because he wasn't forced to deal with it.
Yes.
Yes.
He's a compassionate capitalist, right?
Meaning that he's a young, young black man from the inner city of Cleveland, right?
So he has a specific attachment to certain things that happen in this country, right?
Well, there's police killing, unarmed black and brown people, right?
Of course, yeah, you can ride for Kaepernick.
You see the injustice that's happening over there.
He called Donald Trump a bum.
Like, to be honest, that's all.
low-hanging fruit, especially for somebody six-foot-10.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's easy to grasp at those.
But now when it comes to, oh, you know that it's injustice happening all across the world,
and it's happening over there in Hong Kong and China, too.
Like, these people are fighting for their liberation just the same way.
Black people in America are fighting for their liberation.
Not the same way, but you know what I mean.
This is different levels of liberation.
Sure.
Right. So he jumps out there and he goes, oh, man, you know, whatever, keep it quiet.
You know, he was misin, whatever, whatever, this and that.
He didn't realize until that moment he didn't give a fuck about other people.
Oh, no, he realized before that moment.
Because he had a whole week.
He had a whole week where he realized it.
And in that week, he's supposed to come up with the perfect statement.
Which was the second statement he made, which was really-
Why make a statement at all?
The perfect statement is to say nothing.
That's not the shit.
No, because saying nothing is not the perfect statement.
Because if he says nothing, then Daddy China shut you up.
I actually love the second statement because it was basically saying,
listen, if you want to talk about shit and that's your thing, go for it.
Talk about it.
What I care about is black people in America and their struggle.
LeBron made this shit way bigger than it ever would have been.
You knew they were going to talk to them because there are these conferences all the time.
And then what started to happen is when people would ask questions in the news conferences,
there was this lady to ask and they were shut down.
Now that becomes a news story.
When they kick someone out of the NBA games, these preseason games because they're putting the free Hong Kong
posters up in the games, that becomes a story.
So you can't avoid it.
You got to meet it head on.
And he said the best thing.
I care about my community.
Some people just care about the environment.
You know these people who care about polar bears,
but they don't give a fuck about police killing black people?
They're allowed to do that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right?
They're allowed.
Motherfuckers care about climate change more than they care about an election security bill.
They don't give a fuck about no Russian interference.
It's just what it is.
So it's like you're allowed to pick and choose your thing.
They're like vegans who really care about animals, right?
That's their thing.
Cory Booker said that shit five times last night.
I was like shut the fuck up.
Yo, did you see him making out with Rosario Dawson pretending to like it?
No way.
Did you see that adorable?
I never seen it.
You've never seen it.
You've never seen it.
What?
You've never seen it.
There's apparently a picture.
You made that up.
You never seen it.
I thought there was a picture.
No way.
You've never seen them together.
Somebody showed me.
Prove me wrong.
Apparently there's a picture where they're making it out of red carpet.
But you didn't see it?
Nobody saw that.
And then he like turns around kind of gags a little bit.
All he kept saying last night was, I don't like meat.
I don't like meat.
Who said that?
Cory Booker.
Lies.
That's that protested.
Thou that protest
Dye much
Thou that protest
Too much
Thou that protest too much
Corey.
Toss too much
Corey
Let's be honest
Dude
Come on now, Corey
Get the fuck out of here, dude
All I'm simply saying is though
LeBron didn't have to say shit
And real talk
This is really a prime example
of compassionate capitalism
Like I'm a stern and believe it
I don't think
Compassionate about it though
What capitalism?
No I mean
Selective compassion is what he's saying.
He's selectively compassionate about his issues.
He's compassionate about his issues.
And by the way, he's compassionate.
LeBron's compassionate about his money in China, Chris.
Yeah, look, I have a stake in this game.
You know, like, what happens here impacts me directly.
So I care about it.
I'm not going to lie.
And that's what I told Angela Rye yesterday.
I'm like, yo, we got to stop.
That's the only reason why you care.
You're being just as selfish as LeBron.
Like, you care about your little vacations to Taiwan every year.
You want to make sure you can do that without.
direct interest.
Exactly.
LeBron direct interest is money in China.
It's money in China.
That's it.
Now, here's the thing.
I'm okay with that.
But just admit that that's you.
Don't front like you actually give a fuck.
Do you know what I'm saying?
That's all I care about is I'm out here saying I'm a hypocrite.
I'm out here saying you're not a hypocrite though.
Meaning when I say hypocrite, I mean like I can care more about certain issues than others.
Like I can care more about freedom in America than I care about freedom in China.
In other words, right?
You know when people use that Martin Luther King Jr.,
quote, maybe like an injustice anywhere.
Yeah, he tweeted that, people.
LeBron tweeted that shit.
Yeah, but by...
LeBron was talking about America, bro.
Exactly.
He was talking about America.
Martin Luther King Jr. wasn't.
But LeBron was talking about America.
You know what I mean?
Like, you can't invite nobody over unless your bed is made and the, you know,
the dinner is set and the plates are put out, right?
But I think there was another level to it with him, too.
Because if you really read his comments, I think he was upset that a white executive in the NBA did something that's potentially going to cost the NBA billions, depending on how it plays out.
Maybe more.
And that guy didn't get fined.
He didn't get fired.
And I think the reason he's-
You want him to get fined or fired?
Yeah.
Why?
No, no, no.
This is good.
Why?
All right.
Because this is what I'm inferring from what he said.
Yeah, why should get fined or fired?
He said that, though.
What he said was, we know if a player had done something that had such a impact on the league at this level, financially.
Yes.
You know there would be ramifications.
Pause.
Okay.
Pause.
Do they talk about Trump every single day?
I don't agree with him.
No, no, no.
I'm just saying.
That's what Adam Silver said back.
It's like all of you guys shit on Trump and conservatives every single day.
Not a single one of you have been fined for that.
You have freedom of speech in America.
This is another problem I have with what LeBron did.
He's basically saying that.
you should be able to silence certain people
if it affects the bag.
And the reality is, buddy, this is America.
So you can say whatever the fuck you want
and that's part of it.
And if we get into a situation
where you can't say anything
effectively, you can't say anything.
Right.
And I'm not a part of that shit.
Oh, by the way,
I can't support that at all.
When you affect the bag is when you do get fired.
That's why these people boycott corporations
Well, Moore is affecting the bag.
There's no doubt about that.
This has affected the bag.
Oh, yes, he has.
And a very, very, very, significantly.
He probably cost a billion dollars.
In the minimum.
Cost the NBA a billion dollars.
And by the way, he plays for the Rockets.
Who has a bigger Asian fan base?
He probably fucked their attendance up crazy.
But you cannot find someone for affecting the bag.
You can find someone.
For example, you don't go to jail if you're working at a business and you fuck up and the business loses money.
You don't go to jail.
You actually fucked up.
You made a mistake.
Or you did something that was completely okay.
For example, Elon Musk goes on Joe Rogan's podcast, smoke some weed and the stock dips, you know, 5%.
And they lose, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars or whatever.
That's not illegal.
that's not an illegal thing to do
you're allowed to do that
you're allowed to do whatever you want
this is America we have freedom of speech you better
fucking like it the fact that LeBron is out here going
we need to find him we need to get him fired
for what for saying that motherfuckers
shouldn't be put in concentration camps
for saying that motherfuckers shouldn't be exterminated
because of religion you know who he sounded like
say it Donald Trump
there we go Donald Trump was like yo you take a
fucking knee should be fired
you don't stand for the anthem she should be fired
so this is my perfect
This is my perfect situation, whereas look how easy it is to become the person you hate when your interests are affected.
And that's what I want to take away.
I'm reading Tech Cruze's tweets and saying, yeah, this guy's making a lot of sense.
I want the takeaway from this to be is that you can't understand someone's actions until you're in that position.
Like, for example, these people who make tons of money that don't want to pay no taxes, you never had the luxury to choose how much you pay.
paying taxes to decide that you don't want to pay that much.
I had to pay my taxes yesterday.
Shit.
You think I wanted to pay them shit?
Shit.
You think I wanted to pay them goddamn taxes?
You think I wouldn't want that Amazon tax break zero dollars?
Everybody in this fucking room would.
If you really, if you really, if you ever had to pay taxes?
Chris.
I'll pay it all, man.
Man, shut up.
Stop it.
That's the thing that bothers me is that you can't live by your own principles.
No, I've always said I'm okay paying a slightly higher tax rate.
only pay him if I knew exactly what the money was going.
You're never going to know exactly where it was impacting.
If I knew it was actually impacting people and it was it was helping the porn disenfranchisizing,
it was helping homeless veterans.
It was helping kids through school, whatever the fuck it was.
If I knew it was doing that, free health care, I'm all for.
But you have to take that leap of faith because there's no other alternative.
Trickledown doesn't work.
I've been alive 41 years out, 41 years.
I don't know who the fuck Fike is.
I still think it's the goddamn basketball soccer league.
The football league.
What the fuck is that?
FIFA.
Exactly.
Why is this shit on my check all the time?
I don't know what the fuck that shit is or where that money goes.
You got chalk it up to the game.
It is one of those things.
But this is a perfect example of just hypocrisy exposed,
and it's great to see what happens when you check people's pockets.
And now, if we know a guy like LeBron James is willing to put up with concentration camps,
interment camps, the harvesting of organs and the stripping of rights of an entire country of people,
two billion of them, right?
all that shit, just so he can make some money,
don't be surprised when a corporation is willing to fuck up the environment
so they can make some money.
Because if you're okay with people dying so you could make your sneakers,
you should be okay.
You should understand when ExxonMobil is okay with a bunch of oil being spilled in the Gulf,
so they can make money.
I'm telling you right now, Andrew, I agree with you 100%.
And I don't think LeBron knows any of that.
I think LeBron is being downloaded on all of that now.
I think LeBron's mindset was simple.
This motherfucker's fucking up the bag in China.
Interesting.
We got to go over here and sell shoes.
You know, 16% of all Nike revenue in 2018 came from fucking China?
17% of NBA revenue.
This guy's got a billion-dollar motherfucking lifetime deal.
He's got a son coming that's going to end up doing a deal with Nike.
He's got a movie coming out.
This motherfucker got a sports agency.
They got to go over there and play ball.
He wants to own a team one day.
I guarantee you all he was thinking about is, why are you fucking up the money in China?
And I guarantee you, LeBron's been to China 17 times.
Foreign nationals don't get treated like the city.
this things do. So he probably has no idea they have no freedom.
My one thing that I would say is I've always thought LeBron was one of the more intelligent
people in entertainment sports and one of the more savvy people in entertainment sports.
So I never assume ignorance with people that smart.
But that's not ignorance. That's just not knowing. Like you don't, nobody knows everything.
Ignorant is not knowing, meaning like you're just ignorant to, not an ignorant person, but ignorant
to what's happening in China. But I can't assume that with a guy who I put on a pedestal.
stool with his intellect.
And like his savvy, his marketing genius.
Like, I'm on record saying LeBron is changing the game in terms of how athletes market
themselves.
And it's like, for me, I can't call you that smart and then call you dumb at the same time.
I had a conversation with somebody yesterday, one of my home girls, and we was talking
about leaving America if shit gets crazy.
Where are you going to go?
She said China.
This girl crazy.
Listen to me.
I'm going to say.
The buildings are modern.
What else does she say?
You know, people lost their goddamn mind.
You ain't going nowhere.
You ain't going to Canada.
You ain't going to know.
You realize that if you leave America and I do not care what you, it could be a black man, you're a Asian woman.
It don't matter where it is.
Your life ain't going to get better anywhere else.
It depends what you like, though.
Do you like, all right.
If you like cold eight months out of the year, yeah.
I could be in Anguillo.
I could retire in Anguilola.
Until you have a health issue.
And there's no.
And they got hospitals and they like the same.
Americans go there for med school.
the ones who can't get into anywhere else.
No, that's not true.
Americans go there for med schools.
The second anybody was money in any of the Caribbean islands,
Dwayne backed me up.
They fly the New York or Miami.
Am I wrong?
Hey, what's wrong with that?
My point is,
what's wrong flying to the...
You can go down there and the Wi-Fi
are going to be out for two months.
You know, fuck this shit.
That's what you say, but you won't get bored.
I go ahead and turn my phone off.
I know, but you're going to want to turn your phone off for 40 years?
I'm a group chat, y'all.
You're not going to be...
I'm going to be...
I'm going to be...
fuck y'all fake hand about the day.
But Duvall fly back?
Yes, he does.
Because he got to get that money
to keep going back.
There we go.
But he got a house there.
Listen, I could do it, bro.
I'm being honest with you.
I think you think you can,
but if you're there for 40 years,
listen, the island life is not easy.
Like, talk to folks who have moved
from America to, like,
the Bahamas or these types of places.
They love it.
Dude, they love it for a little,
but there are.
No, they love it.
There are difficulties.
I've spoken to people.
Me too.
And they say, it's totally fine.
They don't miss nothing.
They're looking at you like,
Why are you still in America?
Yeah.
Yo, listen.
Like, yo, when I was there over the summer,
met a woman, she was living in Brooklyn.
She was living in Brooklyn for, like, her whole life.
She been living in her grandfather's somebody
had a place in Anguola.
She been living in Angola for like the last four or five years.
I was like, yo, do you miss it?
She was like, fuck no.
She did say, she'd come up.
So I go to, I do my doctor visits and I bring my ass right back.
Living the life, man.
But she's older, though.
It just depends with your interest.
See, you still out his slinging dick.
No, I got a girl, pro.
Oh, my bad.
But I do be slinging it.
I do be slinging it, though.
I don't be slinging it, bro.
I ain't slinging dick no more.
I'm happy.
I can't wait for you.
You're also competitive.
You're in the mix.
You want to, you know, like,
you have to kind of be prepared to disconnect all the way
if you're going to be in an island.
I don't think you could disconnect all the way.
I think you like being part of it.
Yeah.
I think even when you're old,
you're going to like being part of it.
It depends.
If I can still,
if I can still affect change.
But you can't.
Meaning like if I can still empower people,
things like that,
yes.
But who's empowering you from Anguilla right now?
The people.
No, but like, where is the Charlemagne and the God that is there?
You're going to be slightly disconnected.
Listen, there's no doubt you could empower the people of Anguilla and those surrounding islands and, like, the culture there.
But if you want to empower the people within the place that you're in, you got to be there, bro.
You got to be on the streets.
You got to be touching the people.
I used to think that, but I think social media changed that, man.
A little bit, a little bit.
But at the same time, it's like, yo, why are you telling us what to do?
You on an island in Anguilla, like living your best fucking life eating fresh groupers.
listen to me because I retired and I'm living in this multi-million dollar house in Anguilla.
I don't know.
I don't want this to seem like we're shitting on Anguilla.
Like clearly you love it.
It's an amazing place for you.
I think I could live in Africa too.
What part?
Ghana.
Lagos.
No, maybe not Lagos.
I like Legos.
I like Nigeria though.
Ghana and Johannesburg.
Right.
I think I could live in those places.
Bet.
You got it.
I do.
That's, you got that.
You got that.
You got that.
You got that.
You got that.
I'm a visit.
Yeah.
Let me know. Give me your address. I'm going to pop in on Thanksgiving.
I'm just saying, bro. We traveled. We traveled the world, bro. We were in Australia, right?
Australia is the most similar place I've ever been to America culturally. It is America. Exactly the same.
As close as London. Ten times closer. Closer than Canada. You could live in London?
No, no. It's not that I couldn't. I like London. Listen, we could live in many different places. We're fighting over which yacht we want to.
living.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're talking about, like, the best places in the world.
Like, yeah, we could easily live and succeed and have so much fun in these places, right?
What I think America offers you is diversity, not in terms of race, but in terms of, like,
the place you want to live.
Like, if you live in Canada, right, which is a fucking beautiful, beautiful, people, beautiful
place, right?
You're going to be cold for eight months.
You have to be.
You have to be cold for eight months.
You can travel.
No, you can't.
In New York, we cold for like six.
Not everybody.
But, yeah, but I could live in Miami.
I could retire in Miami.
I could retire in San Diego.
I could retire in Arizona.
I could retire in all these places.
If you're in Canada, you have to be cold.
You have to be.
You must be cold.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Have you seen Drake's house?
Say what?
Have you seen Drake's house?
No, it's covered in snow.
I can't see his house.
That's how cold.
Drake house is like 60,000 square feet.
It better be inside.
No, it's stupid.
It's unbelievable.
No, I believe it.
I'm saying, like, if you live in London, right,
you have to be.
in the rain and the fog
for eight months and it's darker through it
for eight months. You have to. You must.
But it's got to be other creature comforts that make
them feel good about the place that they're in.
You know, I'm sure there are other things and don't get me wrong.
These places are incredible, right?
We're talking about it would be the most amazing thing in the world.
For 90% of the world, the most amazing thing would be to live in any of these places.
What a gift that it is that we could live in all these fucking places.
Don't get me wrong.
What I'm saying is you can't deny that America has certain disadvantages,
but advantages in terms of lifestyle.
We acknowledge that, right?
Depends we have.
We're speaking from a place of what we don't live in Camden, New Jersey.
No, I'm talking prosperity.
Like, we're talking about you and I,
that we have disposable income to live anywhere that we want, right?
And if I have to be locked in one place, I would like, dude,
if someone's like, you can live anywhere in Europe,
if we compared Europe to America, boom, it's lit.
That means I could spend my summers in fucking London.
I could spend my winters in the south of Spain.
I could really choose.
But America is that.
I'm not going to lie, I enjoyed myself in Johannesburg, yeah.
We were sitting outside one time.
I was like, oh, this shit feels like L.A.
Boom.
Straight up.
When we were outside Nelson-Mandela Square Mall.
And we was eating outside.
I'm like, oh, this shit feel like L.A.
Like, that shit was cool as fuck.
And then I look at the people that I follow from, like, Johannesburg and Lagos,
like my home girl, Cuppie and my home girl, Bonang.
Where does Cuppie live at?
Cuppie live at.
A couple lives in between London and Legos.
Right.
Yeah.
She was here a couple weeks ago.
But it's like, yo, they're bawling.
Like, they're doing everything.
Like, they got the phantoms.
She's also a billionaire, dude.
Like, a billionaire's a billionaire anywhere.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, Bonang is like, when you see Bonang,
Bonang is like the, I don't want to say Kim Kardashian,
but she got like her own reality show.
She got her own champagne.
She's on the cover of all the magazines in Africa,
the GQs and the voles and all of that.
Like, you go to her Graham.
She's living.
Yeah.
Like they look like, yo, they look like they're doing better than most people here.
Yeah, no, they are because they're billionaires, right?
Like, I think the one thing also is that you have to think about is your safety.
So if you're going to be wealthy, you want to exist within a country where the wealthy are protected.
Oh, you mean like a country where you don't have to walk around with security all the time?
Right.
Oh, I don't know.
I don't know the feeling.
Listen, you can decide.
And I'll talk that shit.
And then you'd be all right.
But then it would mean me fun.
No, I'm with you.
That's a choice.
We got to exercise this freedom of space thing.
No, I'm with you.
Michael Bloomberg, billionaire could ride the subway.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You feel me?
Like, there are levels to this shit.
Like, the Michael Bloomberg of Lagos, Nigeria, cannot ride the subway.
Nah.
Right?
And the Michael Bloomberg of Johannesburg, South Africa, probably cannot ride the subway, right?
Yeah.
The Michael Bloomberg of London can do it.
I don't think Bloomberg of walking around without no security,
bro.
Son, we would see him on the subway
all the fucking time.
Yeah, but what about those guys
that look nonch and long
just sitting by him in the suits, y'all?
I don't believe, man.
I don't believe...
They're going to Wall Street, too.
Yeah, they got guns.
I don't believe Bloomberg walking around
no security.
I reach, I don't, I can't New York.
Nah, man, nah, man.
Maybe not.
You think so, Chris?
We used to see the Kennedy kid,
Kennedy Jr.
He had to have security.
John Kennedy Jr. would be rollerblading
around the fucking city.
Yeah, you can be a celebrity in New York and L.A.
and not have armed security.
All the time.
Depends who you are.
depends who you are.
It's not only what culture you're from.
What you're talking about is in these cities,
if you're the son or the nephew, whatever,
of a rich person, you're a fucking target.
I agree with you.
Go to Mexico, it's going to happen.
You only get kidnapped.
You need constant security,
and there is a point in time,
and I'm sure you've experienced some of this
where it's like, am I free?
Am I free if I have to be protected
all the time?
At what cost?
All this shit costs.
But you're not worried about your kids.
That's the difference.
You know what I mean?
You're not worried about someone
snashing your kid up at school.
You know, like that's...
I mean, it's the reason I don't put them on social media.
Which is smart.
You know what I'm saying?
But that could just be my own paranoia and my own...
But if you were in one of these other countries,
there would be an armed guard coming to your kid's school,
picking them out, taking them straight home, whatever the case may be.
Absolutely.
America's great.
We're basically talking about like first world problems.
Like, we are so fucking fortunate, dude.
And I understand I'm like a white guy living in 2019, so it's great.
But we are so lucky to live in...
the first world, and I'm talking about all the different countries in the first world,
in 2019.
Like, the, the, I mean, it's the reason everybody tries to come here.
Of course.
But what I mean is, what I mean, I mean London.
I mean Manchester.
I mean Birmingham.
I mean Paris.
I mean Madrid.
I mean Barcelona.
I mean, anywhere in the first world in 2019 in the greatest time in history where we have,
I mean, literally, do you realize that like most of the country, most of the people in the world
are like fighting for water?
They don't have water to drink.
No, absolutely.
Right?
And we in this country take shits into clean water.
Think about that.
Think about how fortunate.
The shit, somebody would drink.
They would die to drink the water in a toilet.
And we take a shit into it so that we don't have to clean our shit off of the toilet.
By the way, not only do we shit in it, some of us are so blessed that we even spray a little of it in our ass after we're shit.
That's how much more wasting water
We're shooting water up in our butt
Because we don't want to wipe our own ass
We don't want to use toilet paper to wipe our own ass
And most of the world is like, what is toilet paper?
Wow
They don't even know what toilet paper is
They're like, is that what you used to use leaves for?
I was in America and they take this white stuff
And wrap it around their hand before they wipe their ass
They take clothing and they wrap it around their hand
And they wipe their ass
We would die for that clothing.
So would I be
Perspective, baby?
Son, would I be happy?
be living in any of the places that we live? I'd be so
fucking lucky to live in any of those places we live
because the majority of people
do not have this level of fucking fortune.
So you tell me that China's that trash?
Yeah. Really?
I mean look, Shanghai, Beijing,
Guaelsong, like,
I mispronounce that, but like
those are definitely what you would consider
first world cities. The irony is the real
city in Asia that you could live in
or could have lived in tomorrow.
Zero transition felt just like America's Hong Kong.
And that actually about to me.
And that's why.
Tokyo.
I mean, Tokyo is its own thing, but Tokyo is a world-class city for sure.
Yeah, you could live there easily.
That's not the same thing.
Is that in?
I don't fucking know.
This is Japan.
Japan.
Okay, got you got you.
But you could easily live there.
I mean, Taipei is like to go to China so much then.
They don't.
They got that wall.
Really?
Yeah, that's the only thing.
It's just a tourist attraction.
That's what Trump's building here.
I'm going to start back in like that I know what the fuck's going on in China.
You know what I know about China?
That everything in America is made in it.
That's all I know about it.
Here's the thing.
And I want to clarify.
It's not that like it's not Chinese culture or people are bad.
It's that there is a dictatorship that limits freedom, right?
Because clearly Chinese culture is awesome.
That's why they recreate China every time they move to America or any other country.
And you got those ballplayers that go to China and act like they love it.
Right.
Like Stefan Marlborough became damn their billionaire in China.
Killing it.
Loving it.
But there's a limit.
I would, if you want to educate yourself, there's a movie, a documentary about a Chinese artist name,
I Wei Way called Never Scared.
And it's a documentary about him trying to speak out
through his art against the Chinese government.
It's one of the most incredible things I've seen.
I mean, when you see what this guy is really up against
and how they come after him,
it's on a very visceral level.
You can really get a sense of what it would be like
to have an opinion in China that goes against the governments.
It's heavy, heavy stuff.
This sounds fucked up, but here's some wild shit, right?
Country of 2 billion people, right?
Yeah.
You're a government.
think about America.
We got 350 million people.
We can barely hold it to fucking gather.
Very important.
You both to bring up here.
Yeah, sure.
So we have 350 million people.
We are being torn apart at the seams, right?
Democrat, Republican, everybody's being,
because we have options of what to be
and what to believe in.
So the Chinese have two billion people
and they're looking at all these different democracies
in the world and they're like, oh, what eventually happens?
You have two different tribes and they tear each other apart
and then it happens you go into civil war
and there's all this unrest
this is really fucked up.
So what are we going to do?
We are going to have one Chinese party,
one identity of what it is to be Chinese
and anybody that doesn't go along with that,
he got to go.
And we're going to remove any other influencing factors.
You know there's no religion, right?
That's the reason why they're knocking out
the mosques and shit.
They're like, we don't want anything
that could sway your idea of what it is to be
from the Chinese way.
That'll never work though.
Well, no, but here,
so my father-in-law is a professor
of Asian studies. And I was asking him just that question, like, why do they come down so hard?
Why is there no room for any sort of gray area with them? And he said, basically, the Communist Party
understands that China is not supposed to exist as one. It's too many people, bro.
If you look at it historically, it's really supposed to be 10 or 12 smaller countries within what we
today see is modern China. You're looking at the Soviet Union, right? Like, if you go to Russia and you go to these
places, there are all these different ethnic groups that are there. Not everybody's a blonde,
blue-eyed Russian. There's Asian-looking people, etc. One person could never be in control of
two billion people. Effectively. Exactly. But what you do, you take away the fact that
there are 12 different states by removing the identity of each state. So when they see a place like
Hong Kong, which is supposed to be part of China, but it has its own identity, that's a threat.
That's a threat. Because then Beijing starts going, yo, why can't we be Beijing about it?
Like the whole idea of America, which is, hey, we're not actually America.
We're the United States.
Think about that.
The states are even in our name.
South Carolina has got its own shit.
And New York's got its own shit.
And we got our own fucking rules.
The fact that we've been able to keep this together for 300 years is a miracle.
It's a miracle.
The reason you've been able to keep it together is because you have all of these different people to have their own identities.
And not only that, you have all of these different democracies throughout America who can all contribute to the greater good of America.
And now the problem is you got a motherfucker in there who don't want to listen to nobody except himself.
And that's going to ultimately be the ultimate demise of fucking America.
And that's why a threat to the establishment or democracy, right?
Like what you're saying about Trump limiting democracy is a huge threat to American identity.
Yes.
Right?
Like if people actually – that's not what we're about.
Exactly.
If people actually realize that like – and you've been trying to talk about a lot here and you've been bringing up fascism and these types of things,
It's not necessarily like, oh my God, we're going to become Nazis again.
It's not really about that.
It's the reason why we've been able to keep this country together is people really believe that they can do their own thing and they can have their own identity.
Absolutely.
And once you start stripping that from them, what is the point?
What is the fucking, if I can't be myself, why am I in America?
Why are you in America?
Why do my parents come here?
It's the whole point of being in America because I can be truly my fucking self.
And any president that tries to take that?
he got to go.
I mean, that's what I was saying about China.
Like, eventually, it's just a natural order of things for people to rebel.
It's going to happen.
A hundred years ago, there was no China.
You got to understand that.
What was it?
It was a bunch of warlords, and one guy controlled this area and another guy controlled this area.
I mean, China was in chaos.
Americans don't understand that.
They think that China has been this country that's been running smoothly for the last 2,000 years.
No, 1919, it was chaos.
they were warlords, they were getting invaded by the Japanese, by the British, the Americans.
Like, that's a country that historically has really always been on the edge of falling apart.
So, you know, we look at it now and say, well, you know, why are they doing those things?
Because they know what's around the corner if they don't stop the stuff else.
You know what it is?
You've worked in small radio and you've worked in big corporate billion-dollar corporation radio.
The rules on big-dollar corporation.
big billion dollar corporate radio, right?
The office rules are much more strict.
The office politics, how you can talk to people,
all the people that are listening,
what you can say.
All this is way more strict
because that's the only way
that you can keep intact in order
in a massive company with thousands of employees.
When it's four people,
when it's me and Alex and Mark on the road,
we're just talking shit to each other,
we're hanging out, ain't no rules.
Except the American's showing
that you can do it that way.
Everything that you are explained.
For the time being.
It's the reason why certain people want to shut down big tech.
So you keep going.
I mean, that's just what it is.
That's why certain people want to shut down Facebook and Twitter and all that, shit like that,
because they can't control all of these people that seem to, I don't want to, they seem to have
one train of thought.
You understand what I'm saying?
Yep.
And there's too much power.
It's too much power.
It's too much power for you to control ideas.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let's say you're Mark Zuckerberg and you feel one way about the world.
That's cool, but you happen to have too much influence to feel one way about the world.
It's like...
And you can shut up who you want to shut up.
You can...
So now you only have...
And amplify what you want to amplify.
Boom.
Right?
So it's like...
People always make this thing about like, you know, when these companies like Walmart and shit,
like where they put all this pressure on workers.
Right?
Where they're like, well, we can pay them whatever we want, right?
And I'm a private business, so I should be able to pay people however much I want to pay them.
It's like, yeah, you should be able to do that.
But what you're doing is leveraging all the buying power that you have
or the paying power that you have to pay them less, right?
And that's cool.
You could do that.
But then when people unionize and they leverage their working power to get paid more,
don't shut them down because they're doing the exact opposite thing of you.
You trying to pay them less and using all your paying power?
Well, okay, guess what?
They're going to ban all their money together and say, we need a little bit more.
If you shut them down, you're being a hypocrite.
We'll let you pay whatever you want.
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Guys, we don't know where this is going to be in the episode,
but I'm sitting down here with international fucking superstar.
Oh, wow.
International fucking superstar.
Hug first time he meets you.
Arena sellout.
Filipino sensation.
Hawaiian sensation.
Jesus Christ.
Pretty much all island Asian sensation.
And white, white sensation.
White sensation.
Can't forget my dad.
I thought you were half black.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
No, is your wife black?
No.
Where did I get this for?
It's the fucking sneakers.
Yeah, it's the sneakers, man.
Your sneaker game is so official.
It's very black.
No, Joe Koi is in the building right now.
I love you, man.
You know, I think it's amazing watching what's happening with you.
It's like, you have this weird thing where how it's like you've been successful for too long.
Where it's like, like, you know how like you see people build?
Like you've been really nice to me and you've, you've been like, hey, man, I've been watching what's going on with you.
But you're, you're like watching like a build with me, right?
But it's like you've been selling out these big fucking venues for 15 years, 10 years?
I mean, it's always been across, but it's, yeah, about 10.
But it's been across.
It's between clubs and theaters.
And now, like, lately it's been...
The Hawaii thing was insane.
That was crazy.
The Hawaii thing was fucking crazy.
Was insane.
Yeah.
This was the arena.
It was like the...
It was where the...
What is it?
The University of Hawaii plays.
It's called the Blazell Arena.
Okay.
And we did four of those.
How many...
Dude, how many Hawaiians are there?
I mean, they were...
If you were on vacation that day,
you didn't see any Hawaiians.
Right.
Yeah.
Just a bunch of people from Kansas going,
We're the fuck of the Hawaiians.
I want pokey.
I want pokey and I want it now.
I want a pineapple.
So for the show.
I want an aloha.
What the fuck, man?
It literally was the entire.
And we had an end stage set up.
So it wasn't in the round.
You know, where they put it up against the, you know, like a,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
They put it at the end instead of in the round.
So there was curtains.
And people were sitting behind the curtains.
They were there just to listen.
it was so packed.
Hold on.
You sold tickets behind the curtain?
Yeah.
It was crazy.
But we told them,
they were like,
hey,
if you want to sit behind,
you can.
And they were like,
yeah, brother,
let's go.
Sheet.
Yeah, bra.
Open everything,
bro.
It's they seats.
I go, yeah.
Well,
they give us, bra.
And they fucking sat behind.
Like,
while we were taping,
I would peek around
the curtain and wave to them
because literally people
were sitting behind the,
It's insane.
Yeah, man.
Why is it in Hawaii?
I don't know what.
It's not a big Filipino population.
Do they think you're Hawaiian?
Do you present as Hawaiian?
I don't know.
They gave me, well, there is a big Filipino population there, but I think it's just, I don't know, man.
I really don't know what it was.
I really don't.
It just, that one was the first one to blow up after my special.
And when we went, we put the tour on sale.
Yeah.
It literally was the first thing to sell out, like in minutes.
Yeah.
I remember they were doing like a news report on it.
and my manager was like, hey, they're talking about you on the news right now.
And I was like, what?
I think it's one of those places where it's like, it's so isolated from the states that they still have like kind of hive mentality as people.
Yeah.
You know, like, where like certain groups.
Yeah.
There's still a group there.
There's still like a one people.
So like if one guy's talking about it, he's telling the uncle.
That's so true.
You're 100%.
I never even thought of that.
Yeah.
You're right, man.
It's like the word of mouth is real there.
100%.
Like you're going to come.
here and were you already here and you're going to sell out or you already sold out Radio
City right and you're going to have 6,000 people there 12,000 whatever how many shows you're
doing and there are going to be people in New York that have no fucking clue clue you're even in New York
you know what pisses me off I'll post a video and it's like thank you Atlanta and then people
go you're in Atlanta that's a thank you video that means I was just there so we were talking about
this uh Ben and I actually were talking about this yesterday
Because you know how like a lot of celebs are doing this text message thing now?
Yeah.
I don't even know what it's...
So it's like the new version of email.
Okay.
Right?
But they're basically like, here's my number.
It's not really their number.
But there's a system that this company set up.
And it basically, they send text to your phone.
You could text them right back.
Yeah.
It literally is that.
And it's like the closest proximity that you can have to your fans, kind of in a way where, like, Twitter was back in a day.
Yeah.
Remember how like Twitter?
Like, do you remember the first celeb you tweeted and they respond to you?
Yes.
Who?
It was Manny Pachiao.
But let me tell you why.
You're a fucking Filipino.
Yeah, had to.
Had to.
And I'm so happy that you said that.
We, uh, so true, man.
It was Manny Pachial and you're not going to believe why.
Go.
Because we got his Twitter.
Wait a minute.
You chose the Twitter name?
We got Manny Pachio and we gave it to him.
Oh, dude.
Yeah.
So that Manny Pacquiao verified is because of us.
Do you?
It wasn't from his team.
And I'm saying it right now live.
We got him that and then we gave it to him
And then we were the first ones to tweet him
I remember, yo, that's so crazy about Twitter
I remember I was mind-blown that we even got
I was like, what do you mean he doesn't have Danny Pack?
He does get punched in the head for a living
Yeah, I'm not sure, that's true
Yeah, dude, that's so crazy
I remember the first person that responds to me was
I forget the guy's name
But he was Omar from the Wire
What?
What is the actor's name?
I thought it was Omar
Yeah
All those people are those people.
That's really enough.
What is his name?
Michael K. Williams, yeah.
So Michael Kewan is Omar from the Wire.
I like tweeted this,
I was like, how cool would it be if there was a prequel to the Wire,
which was the Omar stories, like his rise to fame in Baltimore or whatever.
And I just had him in the tweet.
He goes, hey, that'd be a great idea, this at the other.
And I remember losing my shit that I could have this interaction with someone who I, like, idolized on TV.
And I think this is, and now as like, you know, social media has,
has become a little bit more distant.
Like now we're posting, you know, Alex and I are posting these videos of like being on the road,
that kind of stuff.
It's become almost like a version of TV where there's a little separation.
It's like, how do you create that intimacy again?
So everybody's doing this text message thing.
Do you, do you, and I'm glad you said that because I really do reply back to my DMs.
Yeah, sure.
And I'm up.
And people always think I'm crazy or whatever.
And I'm like, but if you don't do that, man, they start to lose touch with you.
For sure.
And they really, it takes a lot for someone, just like what you said, before you became who you are.
Right.
That meant a lot to you when someone reached out to you.
Yeah.
So, like, when I do that and I see the reaction, I really feel it.
Like, there's a lot of people that are numb by that.
And I don't understand why you're numb by that.
Now, you're like, you're a sensitive dude, though, man.
I am, man.
I've noticed that.
Like, you got a lot of, like, love in you.
I am.
I do.
And I really appreciate, like, like, the grind.
Like, like, when I say that to you, I'm being very genuine.
And you do inspire me.
And I literally, I'm not saying that to blow.
I think I DM'd you and said that.
Because it's just like, I'll sit there and I'll watch and I'm like, fuck, how is he doing that?
Yeah.
And I got to learn.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
That's the cool thing about what we do.
Like, there's people that hate.
Yeah.
And that's just a big fucking waste of time.
And then there's people that appreciate and learn and get inspired.
That's the best compliment you can give somebody.
You don't have to like somebody for what they do or, you know what I mean?
Like, oh, I don't like that guy's style like comedy.
That's fine.
But you don't get to sit and hate on them.
But you can't get inspired by that person
Because there's a reason why you're hating on him
Because you're not where he's at
Or where she's at
You're not as successful
Like I've never heard like
A really wealthy successful person
Hate on someone doing worse than them
No
It would be petty
Right
It'd be stupid
Yeah man like Elon Musk
Just shitting on some like high school science
Yeah fuck you Chrysler
What?
What are you talking about?
Why'd you send that Tesla?
Elon why'd you do that?
Could you let Charlotte
Exactly, right?
Exactly.
He's shitting over the 300.
Gas, gas, smash.
Joe Koi.
Hey, we got Charlotte in the building.
What's happening?
We're talking about hate.
We're talking about connectivity with fans.
I love hate.
You're someone who knows quite a bit about hate.
I get it.
That's how I connect with my fans.
I make him hate me.
He doesn't mind this.
But there's something I notice that you do.
Uh-huh.
Is that like if someone puts out false information,
in the comment section,
you will be right there.
That's how I'm going to start getting responses from you
when you don't text me back.
I'm just going to text whatever I want in the comment section
and you will fucking be there.
I don't care about like a lie or anything like that,
but just when somebody's just wrong,
you know what I'm saying?
And you can take the opportunity to teach.
I take the opportunity to teach.
Yeah.
That's all.
I don't do it often.
Nah, you do it often.
Really?
It's kind of great because it's like,
and you're once in a while,
I want you to know,
your once in a while is often.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I'm going to tell you something else.
You know what else you learn when you're a social media influencer engagement?
Yeah.
So they don't realize they're helping us.
Yeah.
The more they talk shit and we reply back, then they give us 3,000 comments.
They're helping us.
But I love your attitude about it.
It's never angry or confrontational.
It's like it's condescending.
It is.
It's coming from a place of me looking down.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't ever think twice.
It's hilarious.
It's obvious.
Obviously, you weren't listening to the episode, period.
Like, you add that period.
There's a period.
Like, nobody needs a period on social media.
Yeah, we know the sentence is over.
There's no more words.
We all can't be humble like Joe Coy and tell reporters.
My relatable comedy is getting me to sell out of rings.
And see, and this is when I'm talking about Charlemagne being a fucking magician.
Because that, my friend, is misdirection.
I didn't fucking say that to the interview.
viewer. He wrote that you son of a bitch.
Well, the last time someone
got an interview, go, hey, I got a great
headline for you. My relatable comedy is the reason
why I sell arenas.
Wait, who got this? Someone wrote it.
It was a PR?
The rap, yeah.
Oh, that's hilarious. See what you did?
Now it's my PR guy.
And now it's going to be, it's going to go.
Word of mouth is going to go to the point
where it's my mom suggested.
My mom. Hey, did you
hear about Joe Koi's mom? She told
him to tell everyone that her relatable comedy is the reason why he's selling out arenas.
That was a hell of a headline, though.
But this is a headline or it's like the sheet that you get when the-
guest is coming in an article.
They wrote an article about him.
It just came out like 15 hours ago and it said, Joe Coy's relatable comedy helps him sell out
arenas.
So that's it.
Yeah.
I don't know if it's the relatability that does it.
But you have to be like, who's going to like not relate?
I'm going to go sit in a room and not relate.
late for two hours.
Is there any way I can not understand what you're saying for two hours?
I like to disagree about everything.
I like that's two hours.
I'm the guy that'll click on a Netflix special
with somebody I don't know.
Yeah.
Because I just want to hear a totally different perspective on something.
Yeah.
You know what I'm that?
You know, I'm that person.
Yeah, I'm not.
Really?
Yeah, like, I like a different perspective,
but I'm not dedicating two hours.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, you got to help me, dude.
Your attention span is 15 minutes.
You give them 15 minutes?
You know what?
My attention span for a stranger.
is very short.
Mine too.
For something I love,
it's long.
Yeah.
You know,
like I can watch seasons
of, you know,
Game of Thrones
and all these things
that is never enough
and then like watch
a review of the show
that I just watch.
But if it's a brand new idea or topic,
like that's what I love about
like the Joe Rogan clips
that he has,
I don't know if I want to listen
to a whole episode with the guests,
but if I listen to a seven-minute clip,
I'm like, oh, okay,
this guy's smart,
where's the whole episode?
Yeah, that makes me feel
like I'm hearing stuff out of context,
though.
You might?
You might?
But like you post the clips on Instagram from Breakfast Club,
and then if there's something interesting or unique or wild,
and I'm like, okay, boom, I got to go get that on YouTube.
I don't know if I want to watch a whole cash doll interview.
I don't know who that is.
I just do it for views.
I mean, I only post them on Instagram because I refuse.
I don't care if you go to YouTube and that.
I look at everything in separate entities now.
Like, I know we live in this world where we try to connect everything.
I don't look at it like that no one.
I treat Twitter like Twitter, Instagram like Instagram.
YouTube like YouTube, and that's that.
Yeah, anyone that post an Instagram on their Twitter, I unfollow you.
That's that guy right here.
Oh, who?
No, you don't.
Yeah, he does.
Do you really?
Yes, he does.
I think that is the laziest person on Twitter.
It is.
You are fucking lazy.
It is.
But I always knew that.
He couldn't take the same fucking picture.
The same picture is already in his phone.
Yeah.
He couldn't just put it on Twitter.
No, you know why?
I know, but every time I'm on this show, every time I think I'm the only one
where Charlemagne's the late one.
Today he was 25 minutes late.
Last time he had his fucking sandals on
and he put him in front of me.
Like, he doesn't give two shits.
Joe, I'm checking out.
It's almost over.
It's done. Yeah.
It's almost over.
It's almost over.
Enjoy it while it last.
How much longer are you got?
Two years.
Yeah, man.
One year?
Six months.
Are you going to have a press conference?
Nah.
What?
Why?
I don't know.
It'll be great.
I'm staring at your sweatshirt.
trying to see if this is a mental health shirt or not?
Yeah, it says the anxiety on it.
Oh, it does. Okay, shoot.
Absolutely. It says anxiety.
This guy has more mental health apparel.
Yeah.
That I don't sell.
That I don't sell. That I don't sell.
That I don't sell.
You don't sell.
No.
That's good.
I just wait.
Remember I was talking earlier about mental health?
I got a good idea for you, by the way.
And normalizing the stigma.
That's how you normalize it.
That's how black people normalize things by putting it on our clothes.
Yeah.
Our lives matter.
It's terrible.
I swear.
If you come out with a shirt that says got crazy,
you remember the got milk?
If you come out with a shirt that says got crazy,
holy shit.
I don't think I would ever do that.
They got like a white mustache, got crazy?
I don't think I would ever do that
unless the proceeds went to something.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, right.
Yeah, I couldn't see myself like capitalizing
on that.
Yeah.
I just, that wouldn't seem right.
You know what I mean?
And it's mad people that think,
and we were talking about earlier,
it's mad people that think
people are doing this as a marketing ploy.
anyway. Oh, there are.
There are people that, yeah, man, there are some.
But I love, like I told you, man.
You inspired me to talk about my brother, man.
And it's just a huge weight off my chest, bro.
Because I was so sick of, like, lying.
Why, what happened with your books?
Because I used to, you know, I told Charlemagne earlier,
I talked about my brother one time.
It was on Aisha Tyler's pod.
And I just broke down and started crying because I couldn't believe I finally talked about it.
And because, you know, every time someone interviews me,
they're like, you know, how many siblings?
And I always just talk about my sisters.
And, you know, and then finally I started talking about my brother.
And now I just really want to open up about it because of you.
But what's wrong with him?
He's got schizophrenia and he's in a hospital.
Come on, bro.
Same Z's.
Shoez's brother.
Oh, really?
Shoeh's brother swung a punch at me, man.
Yeah.
Did he?
Yeah.
You deserved it.
He wasn't crazy there.
That crazy man knows something.
Don't play that on his kick you.
Yeah.
That has nothing to do with this multiple person.
That was you, Charlie.
Hey, hey, if Shultzzi's brother has seven personalities, all seven wanted to kick your fucking ass.
They were all of them.
All of them were in a huddle like this.
All seven were in a huddle like this like, let's knock this motherfucker out.
You ready, guys?
Go, go.
You know how crazy that is if all seven voices are talking about you?
All of them are saying, punch them.
Yeah.
Punch that motherfucker.
Punch them.
You know how that's true?
There was no hesitation.
All of them were a character.
One was a professor.
One was a doctor.
The other one's a cop.
And they were like, you know what?
Let's kick this one in the dick.
Oh, my God, man.
100%.
I'm so proud of your brother.
I'm so proud of your brother.
You're not the only one.
I want you to bring him here more often if you could.
Oh, kick him in his dick.
Jesus Christ.
He's going to watch this and be like, right?
Right? Right, I told you.
You all adding to people in his head.
Yeah.
I wish he had like a line too.
Like when he hit
Oh, he did.
Oh, he did.
He did.
He did.
He leaned in.
He leaned in.
What is Charlemaine's name?
Oh, my God.
He leaned in and he goes,
This is God.
He did?
Oh, my God.
This is God.
No, but think about it.
What is Charlemagne's name?
His name is Charlemagne the God, right?
So imagine someone leaned in and it was like, nah, this is God.
This is God.
This is God.
Don't you try to be God.
He was right.
He was right.
God got to be a little bit quicker.
You know what I'm saying?
That's the scene of the movie.
You need to write this in the movie.
Charlemagne, yes.
I'm the God.
By the way, when people start screaming about God in public,
it's going to be a problem.
Oh, absolutely.
100%.
When people start screaming about God in public
in a way like that,
you might need to be a little alert.
I believe that.
100%.
100%.
My brother, when he talks, man,
and I was telling Charlaman earlier,
it's like he'll give you a window.
just a small window he'll crack it open and be like there's Robert.
That's my,
that's teenage Robert right there and I loved him.
Yeah.
And then he'll close it real quick on him.
Is he on medication?
Yeah,
he's in a,
he's in a hospital.
So he's not,
he's not kidding.
And he knows how to,
here's what's crazy too,
Charlemagne is,
oh, fuck, man.
He knows how to manipulate,
he knows how to manipulate the system.
So,
so you've got to be saying to be able to do something like that.
That's what's confusing to me.
What do you manipulate the system?
Okay.
So here,
he knows that he needs his medication and he knows that he needs help.
So, but the system will only let him in for a certain amount of months.
And then the, then they're going to be like, okay, he's allowed to go out into general, you know, go back out.
And then when he's back out, that's when he goes crazy.
Then he has to do something.
You have to physically hurt somebody, steal somebody.
And then the court sends him back in.
But see, what's crazy is he knows he has to do that.
He knows that's the only way he's going to get his medicine.
He knows that's the best place to get food and have a, you know, he lives in Seattle.
So that's a nice, warm place to sleep.
So he has to do that.
I wonder if he knows that he really just can't control himself when he's not in that contained in.
That's what I was thinking too.
They're aware on some level, like, this is the most amazing thing in the world, is that even in someone who's, like, going through bouts of, like, hysteria, they're basically crazy.
Yeah.
There is, like, a, like, yearning to survive still.
like no matter how dark you get.
You want to live.
You want to survive.
Yeah, you don't want to take your life.
You don't want to take your life.
Exactly.
And you realize, okay, if I keep on doing this, going down this crazy path,
I might either take my life or might put my life so much in danger that it might end.
Where can I be safe?
Hospital.
Yep.
Yeah, but if they're in the hospital on their meds, of course they wouldn't be acting out.
But if they're not in the hospital and they're not on their meds,
wouldn't just the natural thing to do would be to act out?
I think you start acting out more, but also like not being in the hospital is pretty anxious.
Like the hospital creates like a pretty calm environment, right?
It's almost like you know how like people who maybe struggle without structure, they go into the military and then they can thrive because they have this structure, right?
The hospital kind of presents them with that.
Food is there.
Everything's there.
They don't have to socialize if they don't want to.
But imagine you're someone who's like, you know, socially awkward and you get a little bit paranoid and you're forced to socialize every single day.
It's just going to heighten that.
You feel more and more isolated.
you?
Yeah, in a lot of ways.
Like, I think I'm, I'm more socially awkward,
but we're forced to be around people every day
and forced to engage people every day.
How are you socially awkward?
You'll say, you'll say fucked up shit.
You don't see me anywhere, shows.
Like, honestly, outside of this, where do you see me?
Wait, are you talking about socially awkward
when there's a group of people?
Oh, yeah.
Because socially awkward, like,
when you engage conversational,
when you conversate with people,
there's nothing awkward about.
You might be a different.
And that's crazy because usually when you say socially awkward, that's people that can't talk or express how they feel.
Yeah. That's hard, man.
I think in a lot of ways in a perfect world, I could sit in silence with people and not care.
But I feel like if I'm sitting there in silence, they're going to think something's wrong because they're so used to me talking all that.
You know what I'm saying?
You feel an expectation to entertain almost.
Boom, maybe that's it.
Maybe that I don't know.
Is this something?
But I would much rather just not say anything.
I think you're a high function.
I can be in total silence.
Yeah, you can.
Do you voice your opinion?
I'm sorry, Andrew.
Go, go, go, go.
Do you voice your opinion when you're not in this environment?
Like, do you, is this like your superpower?
Does this make you confident when you're here, like this?
But when you're outside, say, just out in Central Park hanging out, can you still express the way you do?
If I'm having a conversation with somebody.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I'm not going to just start talking to all of Central Park.
If me and somebody are engaging one-on-one.
But even that is odd, you know, sometimes people will walk up to you, say what's up,
and I don't really have anything else to say.
But they'll be sitting there waiting for a deeper conversation.
They might even ask me a question and I'm like, I might give them a one-word answer.
Not in a disrespect, but this is the platform for that.
Do you feel the need?
You don't tell jokes all the time, right?
No, no.
But I remember when I first.
I'm funny all the time, though.
I've heard.
Charlie, man, I'm so fucking.
No, I think you are, Joe.
I do.
I believe in you.
I do.
I do believe in you.
I do believe.
Did you say I believe in you?
I believe in you.
I do.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
Schultz, you can also compliment.
I relate to you.
Thank you.
For two hours.
I mean, I will be there so now.
I love you.
I love you.
Because you are so relatable to me.
I think,
I think what happened, like, when I first got Guy Code and then I would meet people after I was on TV,
I felt this pressure to, like, live up to their expectation of,
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
And then after that went away, I basically, there was a time where I could walk the streets again,
like no one would know me.
And I was like, okay, that's the difference.
You know, I was like there was a little bit of fame.
And then there's none of it, there's anonymity.
And then, you know, once the YouTube stuff started popping again and people stopped me again,
I was like prepared for those moments.
And I was like, yeah, I don't have to be funny every single time.
Like they already know, they see that.
That's fine.
I don't have to prove that the person that they saw in.
television or on the internet is that person in real life.
It's as simple as, hey, thank you.
Appreciate it.
Maybe even a conversation.
I just figured it out.
Y'all made me figure it out.
I think that I'm more socially awkward now only because I know it's only certain people
who will understand the conversation.
Like, you know, that's why we got the group chat.
Like, I'd be wanting to say certain shit out loud, but I'm like, not here.
It's not a safe.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
You know what I'm saying?
Yes.
You know what I mean?
And I know certain people that understand me.
They know my sense of humor.
They know my intent.
So if I'm saying something,
they know it's not coming from a malicious place.
There's only a select few of people nowadays.
I can do, I can be that around.
Yes.
And that becomes smaller and smaller.
Yeah, man.
If people be having phones out
when you just be regular talking,
you know,
you gotta talk like LeBron and D.W.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
That sounds fun.
You're not fucking up the China bag.
That's true.
There is like a heavy cost.
There's a cost for saying the wrong thing now,
especially.
And there are people that like actively want to capture
you saying the wrong thing.
Yes.
So then I,
I 100% see your anxiety on a everyday basis.
But yo, there's something so refreshing.
I hate those people, by the way.
I fucking hate those people.
Scum of the earth.
But there's a, what I've realized now is like,
there's a real, like when you're around, how do I,
how do I phrase it, by your people,
I don't mean the people look like you,
but when you're around like your tribe
in terms of like how you can express yourself,
it's crazy how much energy that gives you.
When you stop conforming, you know what I mean?
Like when you stop conforming to,
fit the group setting you're in and literally around the people where you get to be yourself with.
Bro, battery in my back.
That's it.
Once a month, one dinner a month with like the homies.
Get it all out?
I'm charged.
It's like therapy.
It's fucking therapy because you remember who you are.
You're like, oh shit, I can't say this stuff.
I don't have to like watch my tongue or these people understand where I'm coming from.
Yeah, it's crippling to walk around every single day going, can I say that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Especially in a business where we have to say shit.
Yeah.
It's not like we're, like, it'd be different if we're shud.
and we didn't have to talk.
You just expressed through the food.
Yeah.
We literally expressed through saying shit.
Yeah.
And you know what?
Even as a father, you know, it's like, you know, me and my wife
been together 23 years.
So this is high school.
The worst of me.
You know, when she started going to college,
still the worst of me.
So we're used to talking to each other in a certain way.
But now we got these little kids around.
So now you've got to bite your tongue.
Yes.
Oh, like, you know, and I'm a very,
when you're home, you're a very active person.
Like, look at these.
But then you got to catch yourself.
And I'm like, I'll tell you later.
You know what I'm saying?
You got to tell it a certain way to where she gets it,
but you're not really explaining it the way you would explain it at the kid.
100%.
So it's kind of like it's always this constant.
Oh, no, I get it with you now.
Filter and self-checking.
I get it.
100%. This is interesting.
As long as I've known you, you're the type of person where if you feel something,
you have to purge it.
Like you throw up easy.
You know what I mean?
Very sensitive stomach for your thoughts.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right?
Now you've entered a world, not only at home.
but in the workplace and in regular life,
where you can't just word vomit or thought vomit like you used to.
It feels like the mics are always hot.
Boom! So now you're walking around with this shit inside you
that your stomach has never been okay with throughout your entire life
and your way of dealing it throughout your entire life
was just getting it out.
So you need places where you could get it out.
Absolutely.
You need like the break room, you know that shit where you just destroy TVs,
but you need that just for like words.
I mean that's what therapy is in a lot of ways,
but even my therapist is different.
for like personal unpacking of things.
Right.
It's the group chat, man.
It's the dinners like you said,
when it's just us and we can just talk.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And not me,
but somebody's throwing out a maggot for old time's sake.
Yes.
You know?
Why do I agree with that?
Yes.
You know what's funny is when you said how you're,
you have to watch your tongue now
because you have kids, right?
Yeah, yeah.
But the most unfiltered conversation
are watching kids talk.
Yes.
Because they have no.
idea, the definition of what they're saying.
Absolutely.
And they're just enjoying it.
It's just pure.
Bro.
And it's not until they get into like around working adults with fucking sensitive feelings
that those definitions start becoming serious topics.
But when it's my son hanging out with all different colors and they don't know the
difference between race, religion or any of that, because that's taught.
All that learned behavior.
Yeah.
But when they're hanging out, dude, I sit there.
and hear these kids, and they're laughing.
I don't say anything.
I let them.
I let them have their kid conversations.
I remember when I was a kid, I had those conversations.
Yeah.
And I'm going to let them.
You know what I mean?
That's the beauty.
I mean, that's the beautiful thing.
Like my four-year-old is amazing because she just don't care.
But I think my daughter, my oldest daughter is 11.
And I've seen her like, you know, we have people at the house and she'll be like,
what's wrong with your teeth?
Oof.
And it's the adult that everybody's teeth.
Bro, that's so funny.
You just brought me.
You need to break the shit.
I love it.
You know what I mean?
That's your goddamn kid right there.
That's your kid, bro.
That's your kid.
Wow.
But it's not, it wasn't ill intent.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, it was 100%.
Look, 100%.
Don't ever.
That's your blood.
That was all ill intent right there.
What the fuck is in your mouth that you call teeth.
Are you going to swallow that or is that connected to your gums?
My dad wants to know.
What?
And she's kind of funny.
She's right.
I was curious.
I was just curious.
There's a lot of options nowadays.
What if she turned here?
I said,
Dad, I said what you told me to say.
No.
I told you I'm purging.
Now the cat's out the back.
What the fuck is wrong with you, too?
What is in your mouth?
Let's all talk about this.
He's that candy corn.
By the way.
I've been telling my daughter since she was three, my oldest daughter.
The things you hear in this house do not repeat.
But that's hard, man.
I said that to my son, too.
And she's so funny now because she'll be around certain people
that she's heard us talk.
talking about and she'll just be
just looking at him.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So she's putting it together.
I love it.
Well, she's 11 now.
Oh, okay.
I bet your daughter has eyes and it's like the Terminator eyes.
Or the predator eyes.
You just see dad and then it says engage.
What's wrong with your teeth?
Calculary.
And then looks at her dad.
Right?
Right.
Did I make someone feel uncomfortable today?
Dad is that what we need to do?
do? Oh my God.
Whatever's inside of us that's eating us up inside,
let out, right?
Let's pay some bills. Joe Coy have to leave.
I love you so much. I love you too, Joe.
Joe, man. Tell him about the show. Tell him whether they can see you. Tell them everything, man.
Go to Joe Coy. J-O-K-O-Y. I'm coming to Radio City Music Hall in May.
I'm at NJ-Pack and Borgata this weekend.
Amazing.
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J-O-K-O-L-A-Selling out arenas all over the world.
It's really impressive to see what you're doing.
Yeah, they're sold out too, by the way.
Which ones?
And J-Pact.
And Borgada.
Yeah.
All right, so you can't go.
You got here a little too late.
Joe just came here for a love.
I came here for you guys.
Yeah, that's all.
It was a little light flex.
Dude, man, why do you hate all the time?
Not hate.
Look at this.
Look, why do you hate all the time?
Huh?
I just snatched your face.
Why do you hate it all the time?
What?
Why do you hate?
I got that for your daughter.
Hey, I got that for your daughter.
Joe Coy.
Listen, no, for real.
Congratulations, man.
Thank you so much, man.
I'm happy for you, man.
I appreciate it.
And you did it's your fucking way.
Facts.
Thank you, man.
I love you guys.
Love you, bro.
Inspiring, both of you.
Thank you, man.
Take it as a compliment when you see me doing shit.
Absolutely.
It's literally inspired by you guys.
Seriously, what I said to you earlier, I meant that from my heart.
And you, I mean it 100% Shaltz.
You're the shit, bro.
Thank you, man.
And we all love you.
Thank you, my brother.
Thank you.
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Now, first of all,
what did we think of the debates last night?
Did anybody watch?
Hell no.
Yeah, it was more of the same.
I think that we're at
the point now
where they can cut like seven people.
Who goes for you?
Andrew Yang can go.
Is that because of the China NBA thing?
Yeah, I'm pro-Hongong.
No.
I don't fucking know.
Please.
I don't know the NBA.
Why the fuck I care?
I don't know anything about that shit.
But no.
Andrew Yang can go.
Amy Cobbuchar can go.
Tom Steyer can go.
Julian Castro can go.
Cory Booker can go.
Tulsi,
Colbert.
She can go.
And Beto.
Beto can go.
Beto.
Sout.
Bado can go.
He can go.
Keep it to the five.
Keep it to the five.
Biden, keep it to Warren, keep it to Harris, keep it to boo to judge, keep it to Sanders.
Those are the five that really look like they got the best chance of winning.
I know everybody likes- Is Bernie back out there?
Oh, Bernie was smoking last night.
How did he seem?
Seem fine.
I'm not going to front.
After I watched that last night, I said to myself, I said, man, Bernie might be the safest bet, bro.
He really is.
I'm not going to lie.
I thought that to myself when it was all said and done, only because he seems so genuine like he really cares.
I didn't like the question they asked him about being old.
even though it is a valid question
because the question was kind of like,
I don't want to say it was a trick question,
but they asked him basically, you know,
can he predict the future of his health?
None of us can.
Of course not.
It no matter how old you are.
They what?
The question.
You got that shit?
You don't got that shit.
So if you're telling me if I hit this button right now.
Well, let me invite you all to a major rally.
We're having in Queens, New York.
We're going to have a special guest at that event.
Father time.
And we are going to be mounting a vigorous campaign
all over this country.
That is how I think I can reassure the American people.
But let me take this moment, if I might,
to thank so many people from all over this country,
including many of my colleagues up here for their love,
for their prayers, for their well-wishes.
And I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart.
And I'm so happy to be back here with you this evening.
The illest, you didn't cut the part where he shouted out blue-chew?
Yo, shut up.
No, he did.
He said, that's what got his heart back on.
Bluetooth.
Yes.
Promo code flagrant.
Make sure you use that promo club flakry.
Blue chook.
Got Bernie alive against.
He did say he wasn't on weed last night.
But I just feel like they should just cut it down to the five.
Let those five go at it.
Because I think it's so whack to have 10, 12 people on stage.
Because that shit is really like an IG story, bro.
Like these motherfuckers be trying to fit all this shit in 15 seconds before Anderson Cooper
or Aaron Burnett or somebody is cutting them off.
Yeah.
Like I don't think we're doing the American people any justice by just letting them talk
for 35, 40 seconds, they're cutting them off.
Like, how do you really get the know-a person?
Tell me your thoughts on the Kamala Harris saying
that we got to shut down Trump's Twitter.
I agree with him.
Talk to me, why?
Because he's not like a...
You can't be the president of the United States of America
tweeting like a Twitter nigger.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you can really...
You can really cause world wars
because of your tweets.
Like, you can really cause civil wars
because of your tweets.
Shift markets?
Yes, man.
Like, it's...
He's...
shouldn't want to be on Twitter.
You know how we sit around?
And we're like, yo, man, let's be careful.
You know what I'm saying?
Because we don't want to fuck some shit up.
Like, he shouldn't want to do that.
You don't even check his spelling.
You're the president of the United States of America.
Like, you can't have that low of an emotional IQ and have that much power at your fingertips, bro.
Like, that's my, I don't, I'm not, I'm not shutting him down because of what he's saying.
Right.
I'm just shutting him down because of the threat that he creates for the whole fucking world.
I think you make really good points.
And I think it's compelling.
My one concern would be like, if we don't want a president doing that, I think we have to elect one that won't do that.
But no president ever has.
Right.
He's setting a new standard, right?
And that's the beauty of the fact that every four years we get to write our wrongs.
And I know he could tweet the wrong thing and a war could happen within that time 100%.
But like, I think that ultimately a democracy will decide.
my concern with that and why I can't support Kamala Harris as a presidential candidate anymore is it's just censorship.
So my whole career is really held in flux with this idea that I should be able to say whatever I want any time.
And if she's willing to shut down the president of the United States of America's Twitter, what's she going to do to my YouTube page?
What's she going to do to my Instagram?
I already been shot a band by Instagram.
It's like I got to deal with this censorship all the time that is just a way of like not only quieting my.
freedom of speech, but why did my freedom to make money and provide for my family?
So I don't, I don't mind Donald Trump saying whatever the fuck he wants to say like every other
president in a state of the union.
Right.
Are doing his weekly briefings, which he also shut down.
It can't be policy.
That's the problem.
That's what I'm saying.
It's very slippery because you don't want to mess with the First Amendment.
You don't want to mess with anybody's right to say anything.
But this is policy and policy has to be vetted.
And this shit doesn't feel like it's being vetted.
And it's a very unique situation.
So maybe there's a rule that has more to do with, who knows?
Maybe there's a rule.
Maybe there's a policy.
I actually like the fact that a president can push back against media narratives.
I'm not saying that I essentially like what he's putting out there.
For me, that's unimportant.
But I like the fact that we know that the media is compromised, right?
We know Fox News is going to have a conservative fucking angle about everything.
They're not going to give you the real news.
They're going to give you that angle.
we know that CNN is going to have the Democratic left wing act.
We know.
So they're both compromised.
So whenever they're being either supportive or critical of the president, we know it's not the truth.
Sometimes it might be.
A broken clock is right two times a day, but it depends who's on, right?
So I like the fact that as a personal entity, if CNN tweets something about me or does a story about me or Fox does a story about me, Andrew Schultz, a comedian, I like that I can get on my own social media platforms and go, this is blo.
You want to know the truth?
Here it is.
But 90% of the time, he's lying.
That's the issue.
So we got to be better at veting
out our presidents.
We got to be better at going,
this guy, we need a guy
who's going to tell the truth.
We need, listen, that's why I don't like Tom Stey.
And I like, I like,
what's his name, Tom Steyer?
When Tom Steyer was on the breakfast club,
I enjoyed our conversation with him.
But guys like that are what's wrong with America.
Go.
You should not be able to be a billionaire
and buy your way into American politics.
And that's what he did?
Yeah.
He spent tens of millions of dollars
to run commercials.
And don't even wrong,
he was running commercial
saying Trump should be impeached
a couple of years ago
and that's fine.
You're using your money
to be a compassionate capitalist.
You know what I'm saying?
You're using your money
to get a message out there
that you want.
You're letting the American people know
what this guy's been doing.
You know, the media is not doing a good job of it.
So you decide to buy ads,
run commercials,
talk about all of the different infractions
that he's had
that caused him should be impeached.
But that don't give you the right
to want to run for motherfucking president.
Like I think there should be
qualifications.
Like, you should not be able to run for president.
If you've never been in any
fucking public office,
ever. You don't think you should be in some type of,
you should have some type of experience in politics?
Would help.
I think it, I think it, I think it, I think it would definitely
help. I think, uh, be a mayor.
Let me ask you this. I just don't think that,
I, I don't know, my, my whole feeling on being a president is,
is that like, or any political position is,
is you don't have to be good at anything.
Like, you don't have to be elite or an expert in anything.
the one thing that you should be good at
if you're a president
is the one thing Trump doesn't do
which is fucking listen and take orders
that's it so it's like the one thing
that I want my president to be able to do
or not even president
it's like anybody in that type of
CEO position right
I want you to surround yourself with people
that are smarter and better than you
it's like when I come in here and I do this podcast
every week I know you are better than me at radio
and it makes me lift my level
and I try to get better every single day, right?
That helps me.
That's who I want to be around.
When I'm on the road,
when I'm doing at these comedy clubs,
I want to be at the best comedy clubs,
so I could be better, right?
I feel like Trump has those people around him.
No, the opposite.
I'm going to tell you something.
You're not going to sit here and act like
Rudy Giuliani was not one of the best mayor
as America is ever mother-
He definitely was not.
Rudy Giuliani didn't clean New York up?
I mean, at what price?
How in a bad way?
How do you clean up a place in a bad way?
I was here doing it.
You were here doing it.
Tell me, Tommy, Tommy.
He shut down all the weed shops, for starters.
I remember being a young, like, 14-year-old or whatever,
driving and cops just pulling me over for no reason,
getting illegally searched for no reason.
Because you were 14 driving.
They should have pulled you on.
I just wanted to do hood rat things for my friend
I wasn't the one driving
but I was like just in the car
and it was during that time
when they were just like really shutting down crying
how bad was New York at the time
because from what I hear
New York was really fucked up
so you gotta go
you gotta take it here
to get it down to the air
yo he's not wrong bro like I'm not going to when I was growing up
when North Face was popping
me and every single one of my friends
when we were in middle school
got robbed for our North Face in one month.
I had eight friends
get our North faces taken in one month.
That's how rampant just robbing people was.
And that's still happening in different neighborhoods.
He cleaned up Manhattan for sure.
He cleaned of Manhattan.
Most of Brooklyn.
If you go to East New York is crazy still,
but if you're in Williamsburg,
Bushwick, if you're in whatever that...
He's not in control.
He's not in control.
He's not in the same thing.
Listen, didn't he fucking dismantled him?
Bob?
No.
No. No, he did.
He went after the Bob big.
I thought Rudy this man was a mom before he was even mayor.
As a prosecutor, that was his claim to fame.
I don't think he totally did it.
You got to go with your bias sometime, Chris.
If the man has done things, give him props for what he's done.
Facts.
Don't look at him now and be like, I don't fuck with him.
Because my point with this whole conversation is,
why is Rudy Giuliani ruining his legacy for Donald Trump?
I don't actually just think he was that great.
I think he was the mayor during 9-11.
And to his credit, like he presented
a forceful personality that people could kind of rally around you don't think he cleaned up new york at all he
absolutely cleaned up new yv absolutely heard you cleaned up new y i think i i think he clungberg was more
instrumental in terms of because brumberg brought the money in i mean rudy's thing was crime but in terms
of the development which is what really cleaned it up the money coming and i i credit more that
the boom no the crime went away before bloomberg was here bloomberg came about in a time of
prosperity and then he invested his own money into the city which was great but you can't deny
Look, I lived it, bro.
I grew up here as a fucking kid in a dangerous.
I'm talking about my friends were getting robbed on the Upper East Side.
We weren't getting robbed in Brooklyn.
I got robbed outside of the Manhattan Mall, A&S Plaza,
in the most populated fucking part.
People were robbing people.
You got robbed?
Time Square, son.
It was basically Times Square.
Imagine getting robbed.
Imagine how fucking balzy kids had to be to rob you in the most populated part of the world.
You robbed someone at?
That was you.
That was why they pulled you over in that car.
you little fucking robbering 14-year-old.
Look, they call Rudy the mobbuster.
Yeah, he did.
It was like, he launched a major mafia sweep in the 80s when he was
U.S. attorney.
Come on, come on, bro.
You said he took the mob down.
Come on, bro.
You don't want to give them credit because...
And it's up to stuff I read.
So when I was reading this stuff, I was like, why is Rudy ruining his legacy for Donald
Trump?
It is curious.
Because what's happening with this whole shit, the Ukraine shit or whatever?
I don't know what happened with that.
Listen, they got Donald Trump.
then pinned up against the wall and Donald Trump said
nobody cooperate. Like Pence said
I'm not cooperating with the impeachment inquiry.
Rudy Giuliani said we're not turning over
shit for the impeachment inquiry. Like they don't give
a fuck. But the Dems, I heard
today, the Dems said they're not going to go through with it.
No, no. They said, what they're
telling the Republicans is we don't have
to vote. It doesn't have to be
a House vote. Like the Constitution says
you do not have to do a House vote to do an impeachment
inquiry. But history has shown us
they've always done one. They did one with Nixon.
They did one with Clinton. So, Pence,
and Trump and them were saying, fuck that, we're not turning over shit.
We're not responding those subpoenas, even though they never respond to subpoenas,
until y'all do this vote.
And Nancy Pelosi was like, we don't have to.
So that's the tug of war right now.
So they're still going to impeach, they just don't need to do the...
They don't need to vote.
Interesting.
I thought they were just dropping it.
That's what the...
It seems like, yesterday.
She was like, we don't have to vote.
But that's what Trump and Mike Princeton are saying,
until y'all do a vote, really calling a bluff, right?
and tell y'all do a vote, we're not answering shit.
But they don't answer shit anyway.
They don't answer shit.
They're just buying time.
This whole shit is installing.
It's probably not going to lead to anything.
Of course it's not.
But they have to do it.
I mean, you can't allow them.
He'll get impeached.
He'll get impeached.
He'll do the trial and all that.
He won't show up.
You're about to see some shit.
Listen, y'all about to see some shit that y'all ain't never seen before.
What did you mean?
Trump ain't, he don't give a fuck.
He's lawless.
He don't give a fuck about the money.
He's wiping his ass with the Constitution.
Well, outside of that, he's also setting a precedent with Biden, which I think is quite interesting.
He's setting a precedent where he's like, if you come for me, not only am I coming for you, I'm coming for your family.
And every one of these politicians, Nancy Pelosi included, every one of these politicians has gotten their family members jobs and opportunities because of their positions in government.
So Trump is setting his precedent like, oh, y'all think I'm the only crooked one.
y'all think I'm the only one doing deals right
y'all think I'm the only one
what's that
oh okay
I don't know what's going on right now
but y'all you think I'm the only one doing deals right
no all of us do deals
this is exactly what happens so going after the hundred
hundred Biden kid they're like oh you're going to come from me
it's on and he'll go after Pelosi
and the people she's held he'll go after all them
so now these politicians have to weigh their options
they're like do we really want to come for him because I might have some
skeletons I loved what joe Biden did yesterday
What he's saying it?
Just having Hunter Biden do an interview today at a debate.
I thought it was great.
They reminded me this session.
You guys watch the session?
Uh-uh, what is that?
It's a show on HBO.
It's about a...
Oh, I haven't seen it yet.
It's very good, but they...
It's a similar thing where they put the family members up, and what did he say, basically?
Well, I liked what he did because it took the narrative away from Trump.
So now the questions that Joe Biden would be asked about that situation would be based on what Hunter
Biden said yesterday and not what Trump and them said a week or so ago.
And if you notice, that's all Biden kept doing.
He kept deflecting.
He was like, as Hunter said, as Hunter said, my son admitted he was wrong.
Yada, yada, like, so it took the narrative.
It took, they changed the narrative basically.
He owned it.
Yeah, he did.
He owned it.
But more importantly, they knew that they was going to be hitting Joe Biden with a bunch of questions about that shit.
But now the questions came from what Hunter said.
Instead of.
As opposed to what Trump and then said.
I thought it was great.
I think it's still going to hurt him pretty seriously.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Seems older to me than Bernie.
Brough Biden is literally...
Toast.
Yo, granddad.
Yo, yo, man, I think granddad's slipping, bro.
I think it might be time.
Right?
How is nobody seeing this?
Everybody sees it.
Okay, so it is...
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No knowledge, right?
Oh, my, thank God.
Bernie seems sharper.
Elizabeth seems sharper.
I just don't think Elizabeth stands a chance
because I just don't think she can get enough
of those center-right people.
The soccer-in-woms.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, she's not going to get center-right.
I don't see it.
Why will Bernie be able to get them?
It's interesting.
So my,
not even center right.
I got,
you know,
I have uncles,
they all vote for Trump.
But I remember one of my uncles
telling me,
the only Democrat that I could ever,
ever vote for is Bernie.
Yo.
Because I believe him.
Bernie VP is very important.
Crucial.
You know why?
Why?
Because he might die.
All right.
That's what that's,
no,
for real.
Like, you know,
that's who we bought.
For that reason.
And also just because it's like,
imagine Bernie,
I don't know how it would hurt him with his
based though. If Bernie was with Senator Harris.
Yo, what about this?
I think that's the most likely one. I would like Warren, but I think it'll be Harris.
No, no, no, they'll never vote for Bernie and Warren against.
What if Bernie, and this is what I would do if I'm burned, what if Bernie picks a reasonable,
conservative running mate? What if he's like, we need to stop this polarization, we need to be
able to work together. Back in the day when a president was elected, the person he ran against,
became the vice president.
This is early America.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
What if we change,
what if we, not,
we don't have to change system,
but what if I come out
and I make a promise
to conservative America
and say, you will be heard
because you will have someone
in the White House.
That would never happen right now.
You can do that maybe
with a libertarian
because I think in terms of policy,
that's close.
Someone who's not super conservative,
but maybe a libertarian,
maybe someone who can really appeal
to the right wing people
and be like,
listen, I think this guy's reasonable
or this girl's reasonable.
I think they're smart.
And I want to hear
what they have
saying I wanted to inform me.
You know where I'm going.
You know my politics.
You know what I'm trying to make happen in this country.
But it's important that there are people heard and we need to bridge the gap.
If he did that shit,
that's who Biden was for Obama.
Yo.
That's exactly who Biden was.
But that's the great point.
Alex goes, that's who Biden was for Obama.
Biden was the most racist Democrat that they could find.
And they're like, I feel comfy now.
Yes.
No, for a real.
Oh, yeah, that's strong.
Boy!
Oh, he did the 88 crack laws.
We're not a lot.
Oh, yeah, he's good.
Let the black guy win.
The matter of that, we're planning on killing Obama.
So you go ahead.
I'm serious.
But in a way, that's Harris out of the candidates they're out there because she's kind of the
right center.
Exactly.
To me.
And Harris qualifies Bernie in a way with minorities.
It's there.
I just hate the woman of color, a woman.
A prosecutor so they know she's not bullshit about crime.
The cops are going to be on point.
Say what you want about the cops and like how they vote and maybe how they support
when they support Trump.
But when cops see a cop up there, it's going to be very easy to be like, I don't know if we're
with this Trump guy.
Yeah.
I might fuck with this cop.
Except that not all cops,
fuck with her because she kind of
flipped in San Francisco
and there's some...
There's a little pushback.
That's the point of,
that's the point of being center, though.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
You're not going to make everyone happy.
That's what she doesn't get enough credit for.
She doesn't get enough credit
for being center.
Right.
It's a lot of situations she's looked at.
She's assessed.
She's made good moves.
She made bad.
I'm not going to say good moves, bad moves.
She's made moves people agree with.
She's made people who don't agree with.
She's pissed off cops.
She's pissed off civilians.
That's just the way the game goes.
This would be my counter argument to that.
Can white middle America look at her
and understand that she's actually center
even leaning right in a lot of ways?
Or do they just see a black woman and then they get scared?
If they're listening to what's coming out of her mouth,
because the truth to the matter is,
listen, Bernie's getting endorsed this weekend
by three members of the squad.
Those are all women of color.
So clearly what's coming out of Bernie mouth
is connecting more than what's coming out of Tomola's.
That endorsement,
the endorsement from those three women,
I think could hurt Bernie.
He's going to pay for it too.
Nah.
Pay for it, meaning...
They're the boogie, not boogie men,
boogie women to the Fox crowd.
You know what I mean?
You're not thinking.
You're not thinking.
No, no, no, real quick, real quick.
And I won't actually, as a matter of fact, break it down, break it down.
Because I have a question.
And I could be totally wrong.
Yep.
Uf.
Youf.
That large swath of new youth voters.
That was my initial reaction.
They don't, they love them.
First of all, agreed?
100%.
My one question is,
now you're giving
now you're giving
Bernie you're giving Trump ammunition
against Bernie because Trump
can go he is the communists
he is with these people who are
oh this is brilliant I didn't even think about it
you can't call Bernie an anti-Semite
you can't call Bernie anti-Jewish
because he's Jewish
fucking brilliant
and of course the squad support him
because then they get to go see
We're not anti-Jewish.
We support the Jewish guy.
Linda Sarsaw supports Bernie Sanders.
Three-fourths of the squad.
Cardi B.
Okay.
So now that they have that support, who is going to be the centrist person?
It could be Kamala.
I'm going to get Kamala or I might go get Stacey Abrams.
Not Stacy.
Stacey's not center enough.
You need center, bro.
You need conservative.
Yeah, but it's a different South.
It's not a South.
You honestly,
you need a centrist conservative, dude.
You need a...
Who is the...
Who is the centrist conservative?
Who is the Biden, bro?
Who's the fucking Biden?
I think Senator Harris.
It'd be that sort of guy.
He's considered...
You know, he's taking on the NRA,
but he's a Republican.
You're looking for somebody like that.
Can't have a white male, man.
You're right.
Can't have a white male.
I think you could.
Can't have two white mails on a ticket.
Only person can get...
Trump can get away with that.
Brian, you got to have some color, bro.
I think you could.
I think you could if it was the right idea.
Because now, remember, Bernie's got support from the squad.
He's got support from all these people.
So he's going to be wrapped up in the color.
His campaign, his campaign, his administration would have to be so diverse.
It will.
Like, it would have to be super diverse.
Like, I'm talking about, like, bag of skittles, bro.
Like, for real.
Like, it would have to be, like, mad colors, mad genders, mad sexuality.
Like, if you got two white guys on the ticket, it'd have to be super diverse, bro.
And the two white guys make all the conservatives comfortable, right?
But matter of fact, you need white Christian.
guy because they're going to be Christians that look at Bernie and they're going to be like,
I don't know if we trust these Jewish guys.
The Jew thing hasn't really come to the head yet.
It will.
It will.
It will hurt.
Tim Ryan.
Talk to me.
Tim Ryan.
I like Tim Ryan.
I like he's from Ohio.
You know, he's big on social and emotional learning and mental health.
He's to play football.
He's like a, he's a center.
Win that Ohio vote.
Yeah.
He's like a big vote.
Yeah, he's like a, he's like a sinner guy.
You know what I'm saying?
He's just, he's just a solid dude.
Like I like Tim Ryan a lot.
I can't believe, I don't know why he didn't catch fire in any way, shape, of form.
It was tough this year, man.
I felt the same way about Gilbrand.
I thought she was going to be the one that emerged.
I thought she a little goofy.
Yeah.
I thought she was a little goofy.
I thought she could appeal to those soccer moms, the kind of one's right on the offense.
I see it.
Dude, that Tim Ryan thing might be a wave, man.
He can take on Pence when they do the vice president.
I like Tim Ryan a lot.
I hope Tim Ryan actually does get a shot to be president one day.
I just even like really get a shot to be seen.
Yo, yo, yo.
What about this?
Buda judge.
I like Buttigieg
Now you got a gay dude and a Jewish dude running
That's a little, that might be a little much for America
But it's a little bluechew
It's a little hard
It's kind of hard
I don't know man
That's a tough one to get through
Dude
It might be a little difficult
This is kind of fun playing it
It is like a game
Right
president though?
Yeah.
Why not?
Because you can go from architect,
not architect,
not architect, real estate guy
to vice president.
So you can.
You know why?
Indiana is not that work.
Exactly.
You feel that way
because he's from Indiana.
Yeah.
He was mayor in New York.
You're like,
oh, he's ready.
May in California.
Oh, he's ready.
But mayor in New York,
you're like,
I mean,
South Bend, Indiana.
And also, Indiana as a state
isn't worth that much.
Military.
He checks off diversity.
He checks off
intelligent and poignant,
but he's also center.
He's kind of center.
Last night,
he was very moderate.
very he's moderate he's a reasonable dude and he's southern now you bring i like man pete i mean i have
no problems with man pd i actually like man pete and i like to you know i know he doesn't like to lean into it
but i like the fact that he's gay and the reason i like the fact that he's gay because i understand
that he understands being oppressed you know what i mean even though the struggles are different
sure it's still like resonates with that's it i dig it he's very presidential too out of all the
candidates on the mic, he kind of has that classic. He bought it, Beto. I don't need to,
I don't need you to teach me. He strikes me as presidential in the classical sense.
Absolutely. He's been in so many people's oval office.
Don't scratch that. That was good. If you caught it, you caught it.
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Hey, listen, man, I just want to tell y'all, once again, I'll be at South Carolina State this weekend for homecoming.
And then October 28th, I'll be at Winterb University with Mary.
Marianne Williamson and Michelle Williams talking about my favorite subject mental health.
I don't know where the fuck Andrew went.
We took a brilliant-nidious bathroom break.
I went to do a number one.
He must be doing a number five because he's been in there for a long motherfucking time.
So I'm just wrapping this thing up, man.
And I did want to have a conversation about like mental health.
Because like I was saying earlier when Joe Coy was here, like people, oh, there go, Andrew.
people will be talking about
we gotta wrap up
because we gotta get out of his shows
but I was talking about
I just took this shit bro
It was crazy
I laid it down dude
Damn
Use toilet paper and everything
My guy
Listen I was talking about
Mental health
And like how
I feel mentally healthier
You feel empty
I was just blocked up
But I was just saying how like
You see a lot of people now
they'll be saying things to me like, oh, you talk about anxiety too much,
or you talk about depression too much,
or you talk about mental health too much,
or they'll be like, you know, everybody's doing this now
as like a talking point or like a marketing ploy.
And I will simply tell you all this,
if for so long there was a stigma around something,
and you have people, you know, speaking about this thing,
mental health because they're trying to eradicate the stigma
because I always say the only way that we can eradicate the stigma
around mental health is for everybody to tell their stories.
If we're creating safe spaces and making people comfortable
enough to tell their stories,
of course you're going to have a bunch of stories,
you digital fucking dickheads.
Yeah.
Like it's just common goddamn sense.
Like I hate when something good is happening,
something positive is happening,
and everybody all of a sudden has to try to strike it down
and I act like the intentions around that aren't pure
or say things like,
everybody talking about anxiety now.
That's probably because anxiety is like
the fastest growing mental illness in the country right now.
And probably social media has a lot of,
a lot to do with that.
But just in general,
if people are feeling comfortable about sharing their battles
with mental health and they're feeling comfortable
about talking about going to therapy
and all of that good stuff like that,
why are you knocking it?
100%.
I sure wish Chris, you know,
know, I sure wish Chris, you wish that people would talk about Lyme's disease.
Yes.
Chris, you can be that person.
Yeah, but I see a lot of people in the comments, you know, like someone was like, Chris,
but Chris's Limes must have gone to stage three with this bullshit with the, uh,
Oh, Chris, you're faking your Lyme disease.
Let's be honest.
I really, that's a whole fucking hustle.
I really think Chris got Lyme disease.
I really wish that was the case.
Come on, dog.
I would happily come out and admit it was all the fucking.
Genius.
Why would you lie about that?
He got alive, bro.
You can't fire someone.
You can't fire someone who got Lyme's disease, Charlie.
That's a lawsuit.
How are we going to fire this guy?
He got Lyme's disease.
Easily.
I don't know nothing about it.
So I don't know how bad it is.
Just like Hong Kong in China.
I give a, I don't know anything about it.
I don't know anything about it.
We'll educate you.
Now, if you hit me with some of the stuff I know, I feel bad for him.
You might have sickle cell, Chris.
You're like Lyme disease.
Get him a corona with that.
All right.
Yes, I will take my corona with a little side of lime disease.
Yo, real talk, Chris.
Can you just.
put your pinky in our coronas and all of a sudden it takes better.
That's why we keep you around.
Just put that little pinky and give us a flavor and we get to drink that shit.
It tastes to be like lemon and Chris soda.
You know what I'm saying?
Instead of lemon lime.
I know.
Who's lemon lime, sprite?
Yo, you have a sprite.
Ooh, you have a sprite.
You have a sprite, Chris.
It's actually plural limes.
It's limes?
Oh, limes.
You got more than one.
Yeah.
I think.
I might have that reverse.
Get them to coronas.
Right?
You don't got limewsies.
That's in your head.
Really?
Yes.
Okay.
Dude, think about it.
I'm up here with you.
I don't know anybody else with it.
I googled it and your picture came up.
I'm serious.
How rare is?
It is a rare.
It's pretty rare, dog.
For real?
You got a rare disease, Chris.
Yeah, it's fairly rare.
Is it contagious?
No, it's not contagious.
Unfortunately, it's becoming more widespread.
as more ticks spread throughout the East Coast.
Oh, screw ticks.
Be careful out there, people.
I grew up around ticks, bro.
And he doesn't have any Lyme's disease.
I used to pull them off dogs, bro.
Yeah, it's basically centered on.
I never knew a dog with Lyme's disease.
Yeah, there are a lot of dogs in New York City with Lyme's disease.
In fact, the only approved vaccination against Lyme's disease is for dogs.
Why didn't they use that for humans, too?
They started it, and then a couple of people got cancer.
It was controversial, and they shut down the vaccine, and now people are pushing for them.
bring it back, actually.
Yeah, because you can cure cancer.
You can't cure limes.
Well, if you get it early enough, you can.
But it's too late for you?
I can send some ticks over to your house.
You can test me out of beach house, baby.
I'm all here about six.
I know.
Chris, I'm honest with you.
Yeah.
Your soliloquy was trash just now.
Like, I don't, I don't feel a case for Lyme disease at all.
I feel no empathy.
I don't even know what soliloquy is and I felt it was trash.
I'm not looking for empathy.
That's all right.
You didn't convince me.
Yeah.
That's buzz of the idea.
Let's, let's come.
harder. Charlotteman, can you help him with the marketing?
Charlamant, you're marketing, you're marketing
Maven. Can you help Chris market
his Lyme disease? I don't want to market
my Lyme disease. Chris, please, can you please? Chris has a very
Chris has the type of face that you can have
a lot of empathy for, right? Yes.
Like just... Millhouse. You got to, exactly.
Just look like this. Put your
hands on the table and stare straight at the
camera. Yeah. Say hi.
Wait, you keep going,
and I'm going to just do background music. Keep going, okay.
Hi. We have to get out of here at 2 o'clock. My name is Chris
Moreau.
In the arms.
I am the face of Lyme disease.
I am what Lyme disease looks like.
It's not Lyme, it's Lyme's Lyme.
And I have it.
If you want to help people like me,
donate a quarter.
The 1877-567 Limes.
That's Lyme's with an S.
In the urban community, it's Lyme with a Z.
Did you see the Ronald Reagan Jr. commercial last night?
No.
For atheism?
No.
Holy shit.
That's how we got to end this motherfucker.
Ronald Reagan Jr.
did a commercial for atheism.
And at the end, he goes, hi.
He goes, and I'm Ronald Reagan Jr.
And I'm not scared of hell.
Yo, that shit was wow.
Well, you must not be if you don't believe in it.
It was during the debate.
Yeah, that's a little crazy, bro.
That's a little crazy.
That shit was like a sandals resort commercial for hell.
It was. It was like, oh, okay, hell look popping.
Hi, I'm Ron Reagan, an unabashed atheist, and I'm alarmed by the intrusions of religion into our secular government.
That's why I'm asking you to support the Freedom from Religion Foundation,
the nation's largest and most effective association of atheists and agnostics,
working to keep state and church separate, just like our founding fathers intended.
Please support the Freedom from Religion Foundation.
Ron Reagan, lifelong atheist, not afraid of burning in hell.
But I'm done.
As always.
As always.
Yeah, thank you.
As always.
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