The Brilliant Idiots - Clowns Did!!! (Ft. Humble The Poet)

Episode Date: January 13, 2023

This week your favorite brilliant idiots Andrew and Charlamagne were joined by author and friend to the room Humble the Poet. During the episode, the fellas discover a few things about each other, such as Andrew's fear of clowns, Charlamagne wants to be Morris Chestnut twin and Humble is not scared to spit a freestyle! ***************************************************** Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Stream Charlamagne "Hell of a Week" on Paramount+ Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" www.blackeffect.com/ Empty Thoughts Podcast podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/empt…ow/id1622292632 Check Out "Summer Of 85" on Audible www.audible.com/pd/Summer-of-85-A…areTest=TestShare Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The Brilliant Idiots Podcasts Yombs Yolts Yolts We are the Brilliant Idiot's Podcast Back for another week of Brilliant Idiotness We have our guy here You hear his voice at the beginning of every Brilliant Idiot's intro You know, when he says

I like the premise of his show I can't remember now And I hear it all the time. I like the premise of this show. Smart people talking about dumb shit. Yes. Stuff like that. Yeah.

They say dumb people are talking about smart shit. Humble to pull with his hair. Yeah. Humble's got a new book out called How to Be Love. We're going to talk about today. But first of all, how's everybody feeling, man? How are you feeling? What's your disease of the week, Charlotte?

What do you got? We should go through, Charlotte's disease of the week. I'm still wearing the heart monitor. Okay, so right now you said before the pod, you have a heart monitor on. I wear the heart monitor, and I got to carry this around.

It's like a little phone. And you tap it. And it says monitoring, and then you tap for details. Uh-huh. And it tells you successfully monitoring your cardiac information. I've got to wear it for another week. And why? Why do you think something's wrong with you?

I don't know. I've just been hearing about everybody having heart attacks. So you think he is a professional athlete that was going as hard as you possibly could for 30 minutes in a game and pushing his body to the ultimate maximum point that it could handle is going through the same as you that sits down for a living? To that point, it wasn't just him. I had a home girl who died of a heart attack, a homeboy recently. And the thing with the football player, when I heard about the hit, like, I got to hear these things.

I have to hear, oh, it was a hit. You know, oh, this person was overweight. Because it wasn't just a brother from the Bills who had that. There was another gentleman. The guy from the Jaguars, he died. You know, he was 38 years old, you know? So it's just like, yeah. But I was wearing a monitor before.

I've been wearing a monitor for like two weeks. I would have been done if I didn't go to Ghana. Oh. But they didn't work in Ghana because it didn't have no signal on the phone. That's fucked up. Yeah, so same old thing. But what do you think it is? Do you think it's Trump's vaccine?

It's not. You think it's Trump's vaccine? It's how you think it is. You know, so funny? Yo, Diamond died yesterday from Diamond and Silk. No. Come on, Schultz. Did you get a notification or something?

I didn't know. Why am I supposed to know? It was on truth. Social. Oh, I'm sorry, Charlotte. I wasn't checking my truth social. Exactly. You're verified on that. Of course, I'm verified. I'm one of the ambassadors of true social. I didn't know she died. What she died from? I don't know, but she was 51 years old and what's wild about it is I saw people in the comments saying a lot of suddenly dies all of us, but they're doing that all the

people that are against the vaccine. Yep. They always say, oh, another suddenly dies. But I'm like, another sudden death. Another sudden death. What the fuck was I saying? You, you were speaking in the most incoherent way of ever heard of street in my entire life. And the funny thing is we let you go the first time and then you repeated the exact same thing the second time. But no, that's how they were saying it because in the headlines it'd be like... Check your heart monitor when you were trying to put together that second. Yo, you're trying to have a skyrocket.

But no, because people were saying in the headlines like Diamond suddenly dies. So that's how they were saying that they'd be, you know, suddenly dies. But the crazy part is people were saying that, but they don't realize that they weren't, they weren't for the vaccine. they weren't for the vaccine. But that's Trump's vaccine, though. It's definitely Trump's vaccine. It's Biden's booster, but it's Trump's vaccine.

No, it definitely Trump's vaccine. So it is a, what is it called? A unilateral approach. A bipartisan approach. I thought it was non-binary. They reached across the aisle. It isn't. It's non-binary.

They literally reached across the aisle. Okay. Binary, yes. Both. Yeah. But you didn't tell us how, I want to get there about, how are you? How are you? I'm concerned about you, bro.

No, because for real, you're walking a little different. I think, you know, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, Honestly, my knee is hurting a little bit. I worked out yesterday. When you walked in, I was like, yo, is his knee hurting a little bit? Also, seriously, I'm going to put all the ailments on you right now. Because once you say Charlotte could have something, once you say Charlotte could have something, he starts manifesting it.

Remember when he turned himself into a wolf? Now he turning himself into a fucking victim of every disease that exists and no to Maryland. That's real. Why don't you turn yourself into healthy? I'm trying. That's why I need to know nothing. I need to know everything's good. And then once I know everything's good

That's why the doctor keeps telling you, he's like You just got to say everything's good Exactly, manifest it You made yourself a wolf, bro You made yourself fly You can't make yourself better I don't think anything wrong me I'm just 44

I'm just making sure everything's ticking the way Just go my heart's good It is? Repeat after me My heart's good I have pride Well actually it's stable I have power

I'm a bad ass mother That don't take shit from nobody Go on bro You need Jamaican confidence to get over these issues that you got, man. But they mean lying. I don't eat pussy. You're lying assed you making.

Yeah, you eat some dumpling. How are you, humble, the poet? I'm good, man. Humble, can you help Charlotte with his made-up diseases and shit that he got? Yo, it's true, though. The stories you tell yourself impact how you feel. 100%. Oh, I agree.

That's my therapist. I got a new therapist. My therapist tells me all the time, anxiety and faith can't coexist. And he was like, whenever you start to feel anxious, tell yourself your own hero story. Like literally tell yourself your own hero story He was like, yo, you know what you've been through, you know what you've overcome, you know how you've gotten to where you are,

tell yourself that story constantly and not just about yourself, talk about, you know, how you help others and it's like, you know, and it tended to work. Did I tell you? I told you all that story when I was in the doctor's office

and the doctor was checking my blood pressure and it was high one second and he's like, it's gotta be, like, it's no way. And then he was like, sit down. And he was like, do the meditation. He was like,

do the meditation, you know, think about your upcoming vacation, all of that stuff like that. And so I did it and literally within seconds, he was like, you're fine.

The blood pressure is fine. Have you done ice bath yet? No, I'm scared of this. Oh, God, don't get me started with this ice bath. Oh, you have it?

I'm not doing this ice bath. I'm not doing this. I'm scared of that shit. I'm not, I'm not, it's not me scared. I've done it, but like,

it's like the new trend. Like everybody's like getting cold in the morning and all this kind of shit. And I love Dr. Huberman, we had him on the podcast, it's a fucking great guy. No, no, like Wim Hof. Well, Wimhoff also, but Huberman has been like, uh, Wimhoff is like the vagabond in the mountains. And then Dr. Huberman is like, the guy who's like, oh,

science does believe this works. Yeah. Do you know what I'm saying? Whim doesn't talk about the science. Yeah, Wim is just like, you had a broken leg going to ice. Exactly. He'll fix it. Yeah. What? And then his son's going to be like, no, dad. It won't fix your leg. But if you have anxiety, it'll help fix that. Why? It just takes your mind off the Yeah, the idea is put yourself in a really difficult situation and become in difficult situations.

And then when you have those difficult situations in life, you'll be comfortable for them. That's not how my mind works. My mind works like, my God, my dick is going to get so shrinkage in this shit that it'll never grow back the way it was. Really? You go through that. You go through all of that.

And then nothing else in your day will be as stressful. Because you did that's the idea. It just builds your resilience, though. No, but you're at peace with that. No, I'm not going to be at peace with losing. It's just off my dick. I don't have much to lose. You're 53.

You got four kids. Like, you don't need no good. No more, bro. It worked. It figured it out. You're good. I saw you doing something like that one time, but it wasn't the ice bath. It wasn't.

It was ice. Yeah. I trained with Wimha. I went to Poland. That's what I saw. Yeah. I went with him. And then I thought it was dope.

Like, it was super dope from that. But it's also just like in terms of like, that's the hardest thing you'll ever do. You do that. You know, you freak the fuck out and everything. And then after that, like, whatever else stresses you want, won't stress you out as much. So why is Kevin Hart doing that shit all the time? With the cold, you know, you feel. Everybody's doing the cold, the ice cold.

I don't know. I don't know if there's actual healing. I feel like the same thing as like Skydye. It's like you survive and you're like, oh, okay, I'm a lot. That's what I'm saying. When I hear you talk about it, I'm like, well, that's bungee jumping. It's, yeah. And it forces you to breathe.

That's what it does. What I will say about the ice bad shit is like, it's no coincidence to me that like nobody in New York does it. Because it's freezing it. No, not because it's cold. It's like, I'm going to experience some terrifying shit the second I walk out. Might get robbed. Yeah, yeah, rats. I got a homeless person eating a cat.

when I walk outside the house and I'm immediately shocked and then I got to time myself down like I get on the subway the door's closed and a guy takes his fucking dick out starts peeing I'm really excited What race is the homeless person now

Puerto Rico 100% Yeah yeah yeah Puerto Rican 100% Yeah there's no other one They would eat the cat at all It would be Puerto Rican 100% Okay That's Joe wasn't Jamaican eating the cat

No it does But don't both It's damn Why Jamaica is so afraid of pussy man That's a lie. They say that shit to get more pussy. But apparently they don't do ice bath. They start eating pussy.

That's what they do in Jamaica. If you start your morning by eating some pussy, that's the most dangerous thing you can do. That's the most scary thing. By the way, that's why I don't believe the ice bath shit. You're not going to make me believe that an ice bath is the most difficult thing you're going to do ever in your life. Yeah, because you know you could get right out. It's up to you.

It's up to you. Yeah, but you still feel like you're going to die while you're in it. Have you ever given birth? It's like working out. You voluntarily work out, rip muscles, make yourself uncomfortable. And then when you got to help somebody move a couch, you can't. But the idea is like you're putting yourself in this situation that's uncomfortable. And what I would say is like New Yorkers, we exist in discomfort.

I agree. Like, yeah. And I, yeah, we, this is the part of life. Like when I walk down the street to this day, every person I see walking down the street, I'm doing a calculation if they're going to punch me in my face. Word up. That's a real thing. And I'm just comfortable with it.

Yeah. And what that's doing is just keeping you present. So you're not zoned out. You're not listening to your headphones. You're not focusing on other stuff. You're in the present. Yeah. keeps you more at peace.

Yeah. So it's the resilience that you get. Voluntarily being uncomfortable, which is what somebody does by voluntarily living in New York. You right? That's what it is. But I will say this.

When I was in Miami, and I didn't think of nobody punching my mind fit, my life is so much better, bro. Man. Yo, this ice bath, New York is ice bath, bro. No. But then you turned soft. But then I got soft.

This gets me hard. So what about a woman? The woman that gives birth. I'm sure giving birth is way more difficult than ice bath. How do we know that, bro? They've been doing that shit for millions of years. The female lobby is trying to convince us that it's hard to give birth.

You know what I mean? Like, how hard can it be, bro? Come on, yo. What if you give birth in the ice bath? That could work. A little ice cold baby. That could work. Hey, that could work.

For real. Ice. For real. That could that. That's a good idea. They ain't ever tried that. Oh, man. A lot of stuff going on this week that we're going to get into.

We're going to talk about Humble's book. It's called How to Be Love. What is, first about, tell us what the title of the book means, Humble. Because it says it's the last book on love you'll ever need. Whoa. Yeah. Whoa. I put in the work.

Yeah. So it's just everybody wants love and the secret to having love is to be love. Just view love as a verb. Oh, I agree with that. Yeah. Like, because that's why I always say you're- Explain that to me because I'm dumb. Explain that.

Well, I always say your first last and self-love. Your first last and best love will be self-love. Yeah. And that's just how I carry myself. And that's what I feel like that about myself. I project that on others. I'm always approached situations with love. And I think it's also like everybody wants love

and they don't recognize what love actually is anymore. Okay. Ironically, I use the analogy of Canal Street love where it's like attention, affection, clout, success, power, control, these all feel like love, but they're not. You know, they're like Canal Street version, bootleg love. Yeah.

And actual love comes internally. And it's like anybody you love in your life, whether it's a spouse, a partner, a parent, They're showing you what love is and you're getting a pathway of love with them versus they're giving you love. So I think when people, most everything everybody does

is to get these feelings of love, but most of those things aren't love. It's just being like, yo, you're a source of it, create it and share it and then you'll experience more of it versus trying to make a lot of money, trying to look fly,

trying to be perfect. Because love isn't something you earn. I think people think they got to earn love or be worthy. Because the feelings are similar. Yeah. Yeah. But those feelings are temporary.

All those other things you get them temporary. where actual love is just peace. Actual love is clearing out the garbage and what's left is love. You don't got to do nothing to get love. Yeah. I love what you said about love not being something that you earn

and it makes me wonder, you know, I mean, it makes me think that you can't find love and nothing else. Like nobody can give you love. Yeah. I mean, I'm asking. I don't know. I don't think anybody can give you love. I think people can show you where love is.

Yeah. So the way I look at it is like if it's a breeze, your work is to open the sale. It's not like I need to find love. I need someone to give me love. Yeah. So it's like, you know, some relationships are easier with that. You know, with a parent or something like that,

it's easier to establish that relationship and see where the love's at. And then also with like a baby or something. You don't even have interactions with the baby, but you love the baby. But then with people, you guys do a little bit more work to establish it with time. And then being vulnerable, building connection, being vulnerable. That, like, creates a path. And I think I look at it that way. Now, creating pathways of love with people.

Right. Yeah. Hmm. Yeah, that makes sense. And with things, too. Like, when we're having that earlier conversation about craft and all of that, like, that's, it's the same idea. Like, the only way, you know, you get great at your craft is through the boring, unsexy work. Shooting in the gym. Yeah. No one's watching. Yeah. That's the same thing in a healthy, romantic relationship. Is the unsexy stuff that's happening behind the scenes, paying the bills, negotiating dates, vacations, all this. kids can niffing another why they're taking the shit. Doing all of that. Yeah. All that.

Yeah. All that stuff. Yeah. All that stuff that's not hashtag couple's goals and all that. So I think from that standpoint, it's just looking at that and then realizing that a lot of our ideas around love come from like what we see on TV or like Bobby Whitney, Ross Rachel, all these like highs and lows, you know, and I think we're a healthy relationship, any capacity is what it makes for good TV.

And I think we don't realize how much it like Disney and point. and like rom-coms tell us what we think it is. And like there's studies that say there's no spark. Like the spark, you shouldn't depend on the spark when it comes to like romantic relationships. So it's like a study of like, I think it's 1100 couples that have been together for more than 10 years,

less than 8% of them talk about ever feeling a spark. I feel that spark, bro. Yeah. I think that spark there. No, that spark when you first meet somebody. I still got that spark after 24 years. I think I actually got it more now. Really?

You working on that spark or is that spark? No, that's spark there. I mean, to me it's like, you know, the spark grows, the more you and a person grow together because, I mean, I've been blessed to be with the same person for 24 years. It'll be 25 years this year. So we've seen each other through so many different stages. We saw each other when we was teenagers. We saw each other when she was in college and I was first starting in radio.

Like, you know, we've literally grown together. We've been evicted together. We got kids now. Like we start with one now we got four. Like, so it's just like, yo, the more I see her in different capacities, the more she sees me in different capacities, the more we evolve as people, it's just like, man, more and more I feel like the fire grows. But that's a fire and that's also a bond that you guys are like working on, you know,

through your highs and lows. When I'm talking about a spark, it's like that butterflies in your stomach when you first meet somebody. Still get it, bro. You got that from day one up to now? Hell yeah. I mean, that's beautiful to hear. I think butterflies change. I think that the butterflies in the beginning are,

are ones of not knowing the outcome, the excitement of what if, where this could go, what will happen with the night. Do you really like something? And I think that those transition to, for me at least, gratitude. You know what I mean? Like my wife put a new toothbrush in

the place where our toothbrushes go. And this morning I was like, God damn, what a fucking great woman. Now, she put her new toothbrush as well, But she's thinking when she gets toothbrushes, she's like, I need to get two because this motherfucker ain't going to ever change out his toothbrush. And she might be doing it completely selfishly. I'm tired of him brushing his teeth with the most dirty-ass fucking toothbrush. And I got to kiss this guy.

But going in the morning and seeing a brand new toothbrush and knowing that she thought about me, she cared about me. And that that was there. I was like, man, I feel like luckiest motherfucker. That's what Shostier said is the key to it all. And you guys are describing peace. That's what love is. It's that. I felt guilty.

I was like, I need a buy or something. And like, I literally felt I was walking around today. I was like, she need a gift or some shit because I'm so horrible. But that's gratitude. That's gratitude. That's gratitude. You're so thankful for her that you just want to continue to do stuff for her and pour into her.

That's exactly what it is gratitude. I have more and more gratitude for my wife every day. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about that exciting spark, which is probably trauma because this person reminds you of like your parents. Ah. And people lean towards what's familiar over what's healthy. So, you know, there's something exciting about this person.

and you're drawn to them, you don't know what that is. Yeah. That's what a lot, so a lot of people pass up. There's that book attached that says, we believe in soulmates, but we believe you probably passed on your soulmate because you thought they were boring. Oh, wow.

It's hard to have a spark when you, this woman reminds you of your mom. I'm not trying to fuck your mom. No, I mean, I think a lot of people are, because your parents are, your parents are the first example, whoever raised you is your first example of love. True, right?

Yeah, right. And then you pick what's familiar. So when you're a kid and you have a developing brain, what ends up happening is you internalize everything. So let's say your parents have a bad day at work or whatever, and then they come home and you take it out on you, you're a kid, you don't have the context, you think it's your fault, so you make adjustments accordingly,

and then that's where people learn this idea that I have to earn love. I have to earn my parents' love, I have to be something. Then you don't update that when you become an adult. So then you're like, okay, cool, I have to earn my mom's love. I'm going to, I'm more attracted to the girl that makes me work for it, versus the girl that's replying to my text, making it easy, not canceling plans. Okay, that's boring.

I don't want that. I want that girl that's making me chase her. And then that's how it manifests. Like the movie, It showed that really well. The new It, they showed when the kids grew up, all of them married their parents. Clowns?

Oh, sorry. Like, the little boy had a helicopter mom that just always hovered over him. He married a woman that always hovered over him. The girl had an abusive father. She married an abusive dude. Because it's like, you stick to what's familiar. You know, you say that because for me,

and I love my pops, but I wanted to be the exact opposite. I wanted to be just like him when I was young, even with all the toxicness and all the dysfunction, because that's how he made me feel. He would literally, oh, you only got one girlfriend, shit like that, you know what I mean? And then as I got older, I'm like, that is not what's up, you know? So as I started to get older and realize I was becoming just like him, that's what made me go out and do a lot of work on myself to be the exact opposite. That's self-awareness. You pick up on it.

A lot of people float through life without that self-awareness. Yeah. They're just on autopilot. Yeah. So they're going to lean in towards all of that. So it's like, okay, well, they're just going off these gut feelings, and they don't even realize the source of the gut feelings. Yeah. So it's like, oh, that guy, he's exciting.

And I've seen that, too, like, a friend that was helping in L.A. in an abusive relationship, it's because she grew up in one of those. Yeah, yeah, that's the love you think you deserve, weirdly. Yeah, and it's just familiar. And so we have that with food. Some of us just, like, eating the same food that we had as a kid, whether it's healthy or unhealthy for us, because it has a nostalgic value. Yeah. That's why I love Wendy's. Yeah.

What happened with Wendy's? Wendy's is the ultimate comfort food. Really? Because my grandmother used to, I used to take my grandmother into town, take her in the Monk's corner, and that's what she wanted to do. Stop by Wendy's all the time. And she wanted her fries hot. So that's my comfort food. Wendy's is my comfort food.

You probably felt a lot of love around your friend. That's it. That's it. So now you're attaching that love to that food. That's it. You're chasing the feeling, not the food. Chasing the feeling, not the food. It's the same thing with people.

Like when you miss somebody, you don't miss them, you miss the feeling they get me. Yeah. Interesting. You know what I love? I love being right. Wait, what? Excuse me, Taylor. I feel hate coming from over there, and I don't know why.

I don't know why. I don't know why. This hate just came from over there. Why, why, why? I just like being right. You know what I mean? Talk to us, Morris. Because, you know, for years, I've been telling y'all over and over, over and over, I get

mistaken from Morris Chestnut all. I see it. I see it. People say it to me all the time. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you was Morris Chestnut. I'm walking down the screen. Hey, Lance, you know what I mean?

Love you, investment. You know what I get it all the time. Nobody believes me. Think I'm being. being delusional, you know, think I'm being insane, thinking I'm being a fucking nuthead. Yeah. And then here goes, Maris Chestnut on Jennifer

Hutchardt. Let me see. Let's listen. You get recognized a lot, right? Yes. And then people mix you up with other celebrities sometimes. Who do you get mixed up with? Oh, man, see, I get mixed up with. People say, yeah, I love you and fast and a furious. Tyrese. Tyrese. Tyrese. Tyrese. Let's see, y'all. Can y'all sit?

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. That was that set of at the event in Atlanta. I get recognized very recently for the first couple of times I thought I was Charlemagne Charlemagne guy

Wow Pause Let me look from this way Anybody see that one First of all They used their own picture Yeah that's not the best picture They were swaying to you

You know what I mean They were trying to get the jury To not agree With everybody else Who just recognizes handsome When they see handsom Yeah They should have used the picture of me

With a nice button up on our suit Right squinting my eyes The GQ one. That's what I'm saying. I mean, it's all about the squint of the eyes and the smithes. There you go. There's another one where you have a whole suit on, I figured.

I thought. That's another one when I got the vest on, you know what I mean? Yeah, the vest one. That's the one they should have used. But I love the validation. Bro, you're handsome, bro. Thank you. You're handsome.

Thank you. And so is Morris Chestnut. That's right. And even though you guys look nothing alike, you need to know that you're a handsome man. Thank you. And sometimes handsome people. get confused for one another. That's very true.

That's it. You guys just might be top 1% of handsome. That's very true. And it just so happens, people are so not used to seeing men look that good. That's right. They start going, oh, are you guys the same? That's what I'm saying. We were on the same conveyor belt.

That's it. There's nothing I can do about that. God created it in that way. God did. Where to design. God did. Now it's up to you to decide who's the phantom, who's the Chrysler 300. You know what I mean?

But it's literally the same design. It's the same design, bro. It's the same design. You gotta feel good about yourself. I do. That should be valid in because I think what happened a lot of times

is like people saw you as like radio comedian. They saw this guy's sex symbol and they really couldn't put together radio comedian and sex symbol. Name one. I can't think of any other sex symbol in radio except for me.

Think about it. We broke the mold. Before us, there was fat radio personalities. Does that term face for radio? There's a literal term face for radio. There's a literal term. Face for radio.

There you go. My email still is radio face. I mean. I mean. That's my email. My email is radio face. I was back when you had the radio face, though. But things might have changed.

I still might have a radio face. I don't know. Well, I have a multimedia face. Okay, fair enough. Have you had work done? Is that what it is? No, no, no, no. No.

You know, I was thinking about this yesterday as I was working out. The only thing I think I would actually do cometically is the steroid. The what? The steroid. What else was the shit? Pepton. What's it called? The peptides.

Pepto, pop tots. Peptides. What are you talking about? Yeah. The steroid, the shit you was talking about that you say the actors and shit are taken. Oh, peptides. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but that's not surgery.

Oh, like, it's not? No, it's just a shot. You put, yeah, it's, it's not GH, but essentially what it does is. But it's changing you cosmetically. All of these dudes are doing that shit that look extra fucking sexy in these movies. Yes. Let's be clear. Can I be honest with you?

Yeah. If you did that, you're going to, you're going to, you're going to ruin Morris Chestnut's career. If you look the way that you look right now, okay, give me more, tell me more, and you start to get shredded, bro,

okay. There's no reason for Morris Chestnut. Whoa. And with all due respect, because I love Morris Chestnut. Whoa. I love them. Whoa. But the way that you look, this is fringe. This is what friends are supposed to do. The way that you look. What do you mean? I don't hear gas. I hear PEP talk.

This is a pep talk with the pest toys. What do you mean? All I'm trying to say is if I'm more chestnut, I'm pleading with your agent right now, pleading with your manager right now, I'm pleading with you. I'm like, do not let Charlotte get ripped

because it's going to be a problem. He will be rendered redundant. Oh, yeah, 100%. Huh? What do we get him from? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chat. I heard about all kind of shit yesterday.

Because I was kind of hating on somebody. Who? I'm not going to. Who? I'm not going to do. Who? Who? Who?

Who? Who? Who! Who! I was just looking. I'm like, who? You know how you see somebody

like, that's steroids, yo. It's like when you watching a porn, you see that big thing. That shit ain't real, yo, yo, yo, yo. They got steroids for that.

I wish. No, by the way, now. Now, if that shit was real, hey now, cosmetically, I get, I had a couple more inches.

Yeah, wait, a couple more. Just a couple. Is it, okay, because you want a boy? Nah, I just want a couple more just to have.

Okay. I'm done with the, I'm done with the kids. I'm getting a vasectomy and everything. Oh, really? I'm 100% Can I go there for that? Why?

Because the second they do it, I'm there. You don't want to get girls pregnant no more? Ha! Gay! Yay! You know, after you get the vasectomy, you got a nut 20 times. Why? Really?

Yeah, you got a nut 20 times to get it all out. Oh, that's fire. Yeah. That's the loose. Oh, because the rest. Otherwise, you have some still in there. The survivors, bro. That's facts.

There's survivors in there. You taught you bombed this town. No, there's 20 motherfuckers left. You got to get rid of all the most resilient. You're right, though. This is, that's how I think Antonio Cromarty got his wife pregnant again. Dead ass. Yeah, no, for real.

You got the deceit. Yeah. Anyway, so I think, I think you got it, man. Tell me who you were hating on, whose body you were hating on. I'm not going to say. Come on, bro. Can you give us initials? No, no, no, no.

Come on, come on, come on, come on. Do I know who they are? bleep it. But it wasn't like hate like, it wasn't hate like, oh, fuck him. It was just like, ain't no way. You know what I mean? Ain't no way. And you know, when your wife around. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Might have glared a little too long at the magazine. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. You know how that shit be so. Tell me who it. You never did that? Nah. You're alive.

I find ways of hate on everybody my wife like that. Even if I like that, motherfucker. If she agreed too much with me or someone I like, I know, yeah, yeah, you know that. Fuck out of here. Look at this goofy ass, motherfuckering. Laughing a little too long and another comedian. What you laughing at?

I got jealous of a clown the other day. I went to the professional bull riding. I went to the professional bull riding. Oh, I know that shit. And it was amazing, but the clown was cracking my wife up. I'm like, you laughing at a clown right now? Like, is that what I need to do to make you laugh? I just come home with a nose and, huh.

Is that what you need to do? You are with all of these well-thought-out lines, ideas and jokes and shit? She is. You didn't even pay my face? Is that what you need to get some laughs at dinner? I was furious. She kept like, she kept laughing, like, hitting her knee.

I'm like, you never hit your knee before laughing. Oh, man. There's some little Wayne footage about little Wayne talking about some dude came up to him being like, oh, my girlfriend loves you. He's like, don't tell me, you goes hate on me. Yeah. Don't tell me your girlfriend loves me. Yeah. You should be hating on me.

What is that? What is that? I don't know. casual masculinity. Is it? Yeah. But I don't want to be too comfortable with my masculinity because these motherfuckers too comfortable

got people having sex with their wives and shit. No, that's wild. That's too much comfort. Yeah, that cuck, what that shit called? Is it cuckin? Cuckin. That cuckin shit is nuts. And they think we're insecure.

That's one ice bath I'm not getting in. That's the ultimate ice bath. By the way, Humbert. Word up. Word up. Fuck the ice bath. Your wife bath. Can you watch another man

inside your goddamn wife? bro, that's probably the most difficult shit. That's funny. And then I saw some video where a guy was like, yo, she was making noise that she never made with me. That's funny. That's funny. That shit is crazy.

What do you call that, Humble? What? I didn't know that was real. I've never met someone who was like, cool with that. Oh, no, I'm not talking about the kids. Come on, Humble. Come on, Humble. I'm just talking about us.

We're secure, right? But it's just like, yo, you know, You feel a little envious when your wife is like looking at somebody a little too long or laughing at somebody, you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, I guess this is, you know, jealousy. I don't know. You know, from that point. Jealousy's not unhealthy. Envy's not unhealthy.

Envy's not unhealthy. Jealousy and envy are different. No, no, no. Jealousy is the one, envy is unhealthy. That's the one that God says, because envy is you don't want them to have it. Jealousy is one of the, no, no, envy is you like, so there's multiple types of envy. But generally envy is you like what they have. So envy reveals what you value in life.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But jealousy is you're afraid they're going to take what you have. Ooh. Okay. I thought it was the opposite. I thought envy was like you don't even want them to have it. And jealousy is you wish you have it. No.

Yeah. Yeah, no. Which one God doesn't like. Yeah, I thought now, I thought being afraid of what. Because even whenever, whenever God said it, it was said in a different language and people translated it, right, depending on where you're hearing it from. You sound like you described robbery, humble. What?

When you say jealousy is when you're afraid somebody's going to take what you have? Like, your jealousy is you're afraid like whoever this dude you're hating on. You're trying to say I was afraid a clown was going to steal my wife. Yeah. Yeah, that's jealous of a clown. You're jealous of a clown. Because you don't envy the clown. Sometimes I'm waking up in the middle of the night.

And, you know, his crate and a clown is having sex with my wife. And he tries to pull out and his dick just keeps coming out longer and longer and longer. Man, that is funny and shit. And I just got to watch him. Take your dick out of my wife. Why does your dick keep on going forever? This is a nightmare. Stop!

Run out of dick! See, you're jealous of the clown, but you're envious of the dick. Golly, bro, let me write that down to. Did you hear what he just said? Yes, you're jealous of the clown, but you're really envious of the dick. But I gave him a big dick for no reason. You're just not assuming clowns got big dicks. Yeah, I don't see a lot of big dick energy.

with clowns, but maybe they do you. Nah, that ain't true, bro. Clowns got big-ass feet, bro. What the fuck are you talking about, showshund? Clowns got them big-ass feet, bro. This is the whole special. Oh, no. I knew my fear was rooted in truth,

walking around that big-ass clown shoes for a reason. Baggy pants. Baggy pants. Bro, why you think their face is white? They nutted on themselves by accident, bro. That's what it was. With them big-ass mouth. That's it.

Big-ass fucking mouth, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, what are you talking about? Oh, no. Clown sucking another clown's dick. You gotta have big mouse. Godling! This is a rational fear.

Why y'all made me feel like I was irrational? I don't think there's any such thing as an irrational fear. We got to stop saying it. We got to stop saying that fear is an irrational. What I'm afraid of is what I'm afraid of. Just because you're not afraid of, it doesn't mean that I'm being irrational. I mean, sometimes you're irrational, bro. Like what?

I don't know. Do you know what I mean? Like sometimes there's irrational. Like you just walking down the street, you know, and you see somebody and you assume they're going to do something horrible. That's a rational. You just said that about New York. I'm a rational, bro.

Listen, by the way, that's not irrational, especially when you're hearing shit about six-year-old shooting teachers. But where was that? I don't know. Florida? Where was it? Virginia. Wow.

My point in saying that is, now you got to look out for everybody. Anybody's a potential shooter. Like, there's nobody that you can look at and be like, okay, I'm comfortable around that. person, which is all the more reason you should strike up conversations with people. You should say hello when you're in spaces with people. We're all sharing energy. I say it all the time. The only thing that's, you know, keeping us safe is just us not being crazy towards one another. So why wouldn't you speak to people when you walk in the room? Just say hello. Let me see

what's on your mind. What if this clown, bro? Come on, man. Depends where. Come on, bro. By the way. He's coming from minds? No. What room would you walk in where a clown would just be there? If you walk in a room and a clown is just there, something is fucking wrong, bro. My wife said that he was just cleaning up the apartment.

What are you trying to say, Joe, man? What are you trying to say? So you just got this Mexican clown cleaning up your goddamn apartment? It wasn't just him. There was seven of them. there was seven of them and they just came out one little car

I thought it was peculiar Charlemagne I called the elevator and there was at least 14 of them came out of the elevator at the same time I was like wow and God's greener

the 14 clowns spinning an elevator Charlemagne this is this is my worst I need your heart monitor give me a heart monitor right now

we're going to title this podcast Mexico clowns Oh, man. Oh, my God. Humble, what else are you covering this book? Come on, humble. Come on now.

We didn't mean to bring you into this humble. No, I'm just trying to figure out how to freeman with his, that's a very rational fear of clowns now. I know bad people that got that fear, though. I had a fear of course since I was young. That's why I think they made the movie it. I feel like it, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't like clowns at all, matter of fact. Why do clowns skin? people. I mean, but that's like the It movie and the Joker I think is rooted in people. Can I tell you, can I tell you a serious thing that happened to me as a child? Man. So, what, let.

Man, let me get to laugh out now. You know, because this shit might be wild. I don't know where his brain went. I just fucked up. Let me get this laugh out now. This shit might be wild, bro. It ain't even like that.

Bro, when people start off, you want to know what happened to me as a child? Bro. This guy is crazy. No, for real, man. For real. This guy's crazy. It was not what you're thinking, okay? Um, I got a bit by pack clowns, bro.

It's not what you think, it's John. I think I had a bad experience at, like, a circus or something. It's actually not that. There was a whole pack of. It was a positive clowns. Jesus. I'm sorry to happen. They was going at it, bro.

Yeah. Clown sounds and everything. Giggling like, ooh-hoo-ha-ha-ha-ha. Like that. Damn. You know the joke is pregnant? I've seen the, wow.

Congratulations. No, come on. It's all seriousness. Come on, there's a lot of clowns out there, bro. You're being insensitive, bro. This guy is so stupid. When I was young, And my boy Derek's birthday, it was like the third or fourth grade.

We saw it the movie. Now, I'm so old. The shit was in cassettes. And if you remember, it's a two-parter. VCR, yeah. T-R, yeah. TAPE. Yeah.

VHS. Yeah. VHS. And it's, I only saw the first part. So I never saw it die. So I'm in fourth grade. Bro, I'm in fourth grade. I had, we were all sleeping.

I need to go to the bathroom. Remember, it comes out the day. drains, right? Yeah. I'm in fourth grade. I had to ask another kid to come to the bathroom with me while I peed because I was so scared it was going to crawl out the grain and drain and drag me my dick back into the toilet. You're a fucking clown, bro. I'll try to be vulnerable with you right now. That's not a scary thing as a child, bro. No as a child. No, no, no, that's why I don't wash my hands to this day. A lot of people ask me why I don't watch my hands. I don't need to be in the bathroom any longer than I need to be. I peed. I ain't get nothing on

hands I got the fuck out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I never saw it die. So I wonder if you're still afraid of that or it's just that it's a habit. You made it a habit. Sometimes your fears become habits. I feel like you guys need to have a clown on the show. Come on now, bro.

Y'all should just have a clown here and y'all need to like just work it out. Like have a let him do the therapy session between you and the clown. I mean, you write that down. Sometimes your fear become habits. That's a book chapter I'm not gonna lie For real Because I just

I mean you're laughing But I just thought about that shit Like sometimes your fear Just becomes a habit You're not really afraid Of course This is what you do Yeah

That's OCD when you think about it Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah OCDs your fears become habits Sometimes your fear become your habit And I guess you gotta break your habit You gotta break your fear To break those habits Because that's essentially what it is

Like even what Humble's talking about by bringing the, if you bring a clown, like all jokes like you bring the clown on to face your fear, you're really just trying to break your habit, right? Yeah. Essentially. Well, you're breaking a pattern of behavior.

Yeah. But isn't a pattern behavior a habit? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'll be honest with you guys right now. I'm down to do this session with the clown, but I might swing on that motherfucker. You really afraid of clown like that?

If he says the wrong thing, if he squirts that little, if I look at his little, if he, The flower shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm genuinely trying to compliment him because I think his flower's nice. Yeah.

And then he goes, oh, smell it. And I'm excited to smell a fresh flower. Yeah. And then he squirts that shit right in my face, embarrasses me in front of me and my homies. Cloud's got to step it up. Would you swing on a clown if you noticed he had cauliflower ears? Oh, shit.

Oh, shit. A clown is in M.MA. Holy shit. There's nothing I could do to that, man. Holy shit. There's nothing I could do to that. No, that is a wild-ass scenario. You swing on a clown and didn't notice he had cauliflower ears.

Now you're getting your ass beat the death by a fucking clown. Bruh. Then it becomes a very rational fear. That's a real fear. Honestly, I think most clowns who I'm in May. But are you afraid? But what should you fear in that situation? Clowns are people where cauliflower is?

I mean, if you swing on them first. I'm afraid of clowns already. And I'm also afraid of people with cauliflower ears. Putting them together. Oh, my Lord. That's like the last. Last boss. Yeah.

That's the last boss. An antagonizing clown with cauliflower. Oh my. Because I feel like you don't really meet. I think most people who fight don't go out looking for fights. But clowns are different, bro. Clowns are different. That's why you should mind your fucking business.

But they don't do that. Clowns don't do that, bro. Clowns can't because clowns get paid off the attention. The instigates. They instigate. Yeah. They're bad, bro. You know what?

That shit could be elite. Well, being a clown. You know that there's countries where it's illegal. To be a clown? 100% No, Qatar Sweden.

Seriously? You can't be a clown in those countries, I don't fucking know, bro. Yeah, everybody giggling so I'm assuming it's a joke

But I don't I was locked up with two clowns Exactly, they was locking clowns up there. They were playing that clown shit.

They don't play clown shit. Hold on, explain this to me. You just, it's illegal to be a clown there. You can't be a clown in Sweden, you can't be a clown in... Like because it's white face?

Not only that. But also because they're fucking crazy those clowns. bro. Do dead ass, you can't be a clowns. So they profile a clowns.

They profile. But it's like they look at them like Turs. Really? They look at them like Tess. I'm saying, I don't know. Look it up right now.

See if you could be a... No joke. Frenchtown cracked down on clown. It's a plague, bro. It's a plague. That's in the U.S. though. No, French Town. Oh, I'm looking at the Frenchdown.

Okay, no. French Down, Cracksdown on Clown costume. They're done with that shit. Really? They done with that shit. And then the French clowns. tried to rebrand into minds. They're like, we're not clowns, we're minds.

I'm stuck in a box. But that's the illusion of control they give you. They want you to think that they stuck in a box. Right? And you know a box? They really stuck in your wife's, these piece of fucking shit clowns. You know who created that legislation? That's some shit.

They being your wife's like, oh, I can't get out. Sorry. Sorry, I'm stuck in this box. That is somebody with a fear of clowns. Whoever created that legislation has a fear of clown. Rational. That's what you do. Rational.

When you're afraid of something and you want to control something, you put some laws on it. Damn. I never knew that shit. Build a wall, bro. Put a Mexican. You bring it back around, baby. Bring it right back around. We need a build a wall for these Mexicans, bro.

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What the... You ain't got time for no segue, bro. Let's just get to it. It's kind of isn't a segue because you're talking about cauliflower ears and MMA. This is what we should do with the Dana White stuff. Okay. Other things you could do

when your wife slaps, you. Okay. Other things you could do. I like that. Because we all know slapping her back is not the right thing

to do. Never put your hands on a woman. Surprisingly, I know, I agree with you 100%. Surprisingly, we did the topic on Breakfast Club this morning

and I was approaching it from the angle of what D.L. Hughley was saying how, you know, he feels like nobody's paying this any attention. If this was a black guy, they'd have been digging up

old tweets and they'd have been bringing up fights he had in third grade. I agree with D.L. to a certain extent, but I think that all of that stuff that he's looking for, it comes from social media. Like, mainstream media isn't really doing that. Like, that literally comes from people online, digging up that kind of stuff, and then

mainstream media might latch on to it. But it's not like mainstream media wasn't, you know, reporting on the day and white situation. So what are the other reasons that people may not be taking it as serious? One of the big things that people were saying was because she slapped him. Yeah. Also not okay. It should be self-defense. Also, not okay.

Yeah. So a lot of people saw it from that perspective. I got that from the callers that we're calling in. They thought that, well, she hit him. People need to keep their hands to their self. You can't expect somebody not to hit you back when you hit them. I think two things are true. I think that one, there's a double standard that we all believe in, which is you just don't put your hand on women.

100%. Like, and that's, even if they do it first, which is wrong and fucked up, you should never put your hand on your partner. Run. That'd be safe. Run. Run. If there's no women around to handle the situation for you, run. Run.

I'm serious. We got to start going back to blaming shit on alcohol, too. No, no, no. Nobody wants to do that, but it's true. Substances alter your thought process. Yeah, but you're always responsible for your actions. You can never do it, but you can't ask them if they're on their period. There's other things.

Humble. What else can you do in that situation? Your humble opinion. Yeah, what is your humble opinion? You got to walk the fuck away. That's what I think is. I agree. I agree.

I'm in public and you famous as fuck, people are going to be filming you. He doesn't see people holding cameras staring at him. Yeah. There's that. And I think the big issue with his is because he's been talking about that, especially with John Jones and all that. All he's been talking about, like, for a year. And they're pulling a post where he's telling fighters, like,

you can come back to him a lot, but you can never come back from putting your hands on a woman. But I don't know if that's true because he let John Jones back and he let Greg Hardy back. And both of them have accusations of that. Yeah. So that actually, those are the two situations that I think kind of help him right here.

Damn, I didn't know that. I didn't know that this morning when I was talking about it. No, but the thing is he did let them, like John Jones is going to fight for the title right now. Yeah, yeah. And Greg Hardy was in the organization for a while. That happens out here anyways. If you're profitable enough, everything is forgetting.

Yeah, but Greg Hardy wasn't even profitable. Yeah. That's the other thing. So it's like, he had a situation when he was playing an NFL. And then he still got signed to the UFC. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think it's one of those things where, like, in a weird situation,

he's actually been giving people second chances from these things. Yeah. So it's one of those things where it's like, if he was super. strict on that and then there'd be no way where you can continue being the CEO. Yeah. Because if you're super strict on them, it's like, why do you deserve a second chance? It tells me that you

shouldn't be so judgmental, Lisa. You know what I mean? Like sometimes when you, and you know, it's so interesting, I remember Minister Pradon has a quote, and Mr. Pradon says, when you see somebody, you know, going through some shit or you see somebody getting some trouble, don't laugh, learn. Yep. You know what I mean? And I mean, that's, to me,

that's what that is. Like, you know, that's why cancel coach is such a tricky thing, man, because you never know when you could be in a situation like that. Yeah. You don't know what you're going to do until you're in that situation. Yeah. And his mind, maybe he never thought he would.

Yeah. Put hands on a woman until he realizes, oh, shit, like, you know, it happened. Yeah. You know? But he's right. I mean, and that's the other thing. He apologized for it immediately. He owned it.

He didn't make no excuses. Yeah. Yeah. You know? So I don't know why the media is not reacting to this, you know, but I think the other thing that people are saying whether they realize they're saying it is they want him to have some consequences. So when D.

Hugley is saying like how come people aren't talking about this. He's basically saying, where are the consequences? And that becomes like, and completely reasonable. And but that also becomes, um, it becomes a, I don't want to use the word, there's like personal investment in that. Right. So for example, like, I think anybody who maybe doesn't like Dana White or anybody who sees racial inequality is going to use this as an example of either, hey, Dan, Dan, Dana White sucks or, hey, this is racial injustice. And the problem with both of those are a lack of concern about the person that could be really affected, which is his wife and kids. Yeah.

So it's like, if I saw people really upset and they're only talking about wife and kids, then I'm like really understanding of that. Absolutely. But it seems most of the reaction to this is either, I hate Dana White. You guys should too. Opportunism. It feels a little opportunistic. I think the nature of that business It's not like there's a lot of

Family oriented sponsors in the UFC Like it really gears towards a demographic That's like violence That's the other thing they were saying too It's like because he's the president of UFC And MMA is so violent You kind of expect that behavior But the only reason I got to push back on that

Is because boxing is violent Yep football is violent But I don't see boxes and football players Getting that same, I mean grace I think you gotta look at the corporate side I just like you know What the jail though Not for that.

Yes, he did. I think he went to jail for... No, he went to jail with DB. He did. Yeah. Yeah, he was a jail for DVD. Fair enough. Yeah.

I thought it was... I'm looking at it from like, if this was the CEO of like Disney, it'd be a whole different situation versus like what a court, like who are the big court responses for like a UFC event? Oh, yeah. We're there only, oh, this is going to hurt our bottom lines. We're going to have to pull out of this.

And it's like, you know, it's probably like they have like manscape or something like that. And then that might not. You know what's so interesting about that one And you're absolutely right, humble, but it's like Who do these people think are watching Disney? Like there's nobody that's perfect. It's the same thing with politicians. Like we know people are not perfect.

I think nowadays you trust people less when they appear too perfect. That's why the 48 law of power always said never appear too perfect. You know what I'm saying? Like you got to have some dirt on you because that's what we're human. But I think corporate identity. Because even when you start thinking about like like the culture wars that that are happening right now,

I start to realize that like a lot of it is, the people that I know who are complaining about it are people who work corporate jobs who are being told, like, for example, put your pronouns in your email. Yeah. You know, and it's because these corporations

are trying to appear perfect. They want to make everybody happy and they want to make as much money as possible. And then they're pushing that onto their employees, which is creating kind of friction because people are like, what, like I don't know what the stuff is or what have you.

And I think, you know, I don't have a 9 to 5 job, so does nobody telling me how to conduct myself? So none of this is something that I have a stake in and I don't concern myself with it. So if you tell me what to do, then not uphold those same values when something happens to you,

then I'm going to feel like you're being a hypocrite. Yeah. As an employee, that's what you're saying? Yeah. Yeah. And it's also, and just like the company, you know, so I think, you know, it gets interesting when you think of like a Netflix

and like how, you know, they back Chappelle and, you know, when it comes to certain country wars, stuff like that. but like he's probably making them a boatload of money too. That's the other thing. It's like you, we can't expect corporations

to be loyal to anything other than making their shareholders the most money. But it's also up to corporations to live up to that responsibility. Sometimes they blur the line. Sometimes they go, it's important to us that we have

a black movie selection for Black History Month. It's like, you don't care about black movies. You don't care about black people. You care about making money off people who might be interested in black movies during this month. You're trying to profit off of the holiday.

It's like Christmas. Exactly. Literally. If they were open about it, maybe it wouldn't work as well. Maybe people wouldn't buy as much stuff, but there'd be much less scrutiny when some sort of a hypocritical behavior came around

because they could always go, nah, we're always about making money. So we're going to do whatever makes us money. You know what I'm saying? No, absolutely. But we have to know that we live in a society where everything is monetized, right? Yeah. Like even if whether or not you admitted or not, when Black History Month comes around and, you know,

you do all of these Black History Month discounts or Black History Month programming, you know why they're doing that. Same thing with Women's History Month, you know what I mean? I had a joke. I had a joke about Juneteenth. I had a joke. It became true. It became true.

Yeah, I remember. The joke was like, you know, I was like next year they're going to be June 10th. sales, right? Three-fifths off every day and whatever, blah. And literally the next year, I couldn't believe it.

I felt like I was living in a parody. There were Juneteenth sales. Not only are they June team sales, there are people that put together like June teeth meals, ice cream, but like they'll do Juneteenth meals and even that causes outrage

because it'll be the stereotypical stuff, you know what I mean? Chicken, whatever it is, right? So it's like, I don't know if everybody's true. trying to be inclusive or if everybody's just profiting the best way. Or it works that way because it's like by companies performatively being inclusive, that sets culture.

So like Toronto, they have a really big pride parade, but it's like hyper corporate. Go watch this performance on the Viagra stage. Yeah. That's literally what it's what it's literally called, the Viagra stage. And then the other stage is like the Ontario Lottery Corporation stage. All the stages are giving corporate names. And then they change the crosswalk to rainbow colors and all the banks put flags up and everything

for just that month, for five months. And it's like, it's super performative. But I can see the value of it for like a little kid seeing the normalization of just various cultures. But is it normalization or monetization? Monetization creates normalization. Does it? Once it becomes profitable.

It becomes normal. It becomes normal. That's the only, all representation is, congratulations, your community is giving us enough money for us to acknowledge you. But to me, normal. normalization is when you see it all the time for no reason. And you only do that when it's profitable.

Yeah. Like the stuff we're talking about, we don't see all the time for no reason. No, like, so for example, like... Tacos, bro. I mean... Tacos are normal, right? We see them everywhere.

But on Singo de Mayo... You can make some money off them, bitch. Absolutely, but on Singo de Mayo, they're a thing. But that's a great example. Yeah. Because you see them on Cinco de Mayo because I guess that's a, you know,

I guess traditional dish. But we grew up Taco Bell. We grew up eating tacos, Taco Tudzi. Like, it is normal. not because it's being monetized, but just because it's normal. Well, I guess, I guess first we need to like it. Then it becomes monetized. Once they realize we like it, they monetize it.

And then it becomes so normal. Once they realize it's a market. So like, for example, like there ain't no South. So for example, like black folks are probably 20, 25 years ahead in terms of progress and entertainment than South Asians, right? So there's no South Asian Disney movies yet with South Asian characters. There isn't going to be no South Asian. Little Mermaid.

That's not true, though. Aladdin. Aladdin, that's, see, that's the Middle Eastern, man. Call me stupid. It was one. It was one. Come on. Call me stupid, but what about the, they're, what about the, what they always say about

Andrew? Like, yo, Andrew's got all these funny racist jokes that he knows everything. Not where, what part? I guess, oh, it's Asia. Al-Aidine, man, that's, that's Middle East. But that's Asia. No. What about the Red Panda joint?

What continent is, the Red Panda joint? Hold on. What continent is, uh, the Middle East then? Asia. I think it's just the Middle East. I don't even think that's like, that's Asia, well,

that's the South Asian. So I'm talking about the North Asian. It's the South part of Asia. All them fucking countries is on the water. So what is considered South Asian? I'm right, like what people call it like India,

Pakistan. Yeah, that's okay, got you, got you, like there's a billion and a half people. Got you got that, right? So like. It's China, South Asia. It's East Asia.

Where's Akash? It's South Asian. Akash seems to me. Okay. The term South Asian is dumb. because how are you going to tell the South Asian?

I'm trying South Asian explain it India is dumb because India is not a like India is not a thing India is a collect India

Well now you're getting super existential Not even South Asia is the continent The South that shit It's just like When we call

Southern Americans We're like the South And it's like Well yeah I live in San Diego California It's like Well yeah that's south

But you're not from the South You mean cultural Yeah it doesn't make sense geographically Southwest But Exactly, but it's still, whatever, it doesn't matter. Okay, so what people, when I'm saying South Asia,

what people refer to as like India, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, all of that. And then, yeah, so in terms of that, like, there's no representation. Well, because there's still- Oh, no, um, you know what I'm about to say. Say it loud. Miss Marvel?

Miss Marvel's the first one. Yeah, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the first one. And that's this year. That's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's them recognizing that, is it.

What I'm saying is at the end of the day, it's not like, oh, we need to make people feel included. It's more like, hey, congratulations, you you guys have qualified as a market that we're going to appeal to. You know, and it's like, and you see it where it's like, you know, and I think it's fine. And then, you know, there's a journey for everybody.

So in the beginning it would have been like, especially for brown people, it was white guys wearing brown makeup. And then they started having brown guys who definitely didn't have accents doing accent. Can I ask you a question, know, about Aladdin specifically? why are you going back to the lattice?

Also assuming I know anything about Aladdin. Well, no, no, no, no. It's like, I think that Disney purposely made it, what is it, I don't want to say like anonymous? What is the word I'm looking for? They didn't stamp it. Adrogynous? Basically culturally androgynous, if you will. Adrogynous would be like gender, I think, right?

But because if you look at like Taj Mahal, right, that could be the palace that you see in Aladdin. Not to mention like the names, like Jasmine, how many Indian jasmans are there? Okay. Ali, how many Indian Ali's? What I think is, I think on purpose, they tried to make it the whole region relatable for the entire region because it's just more people that could tap into it. Yeah, and that goes back to my point. Because it's more monetizable. But I don't think, even though it's absolutely the Middle East, 100%, and that's what is. And I didn't grow up thinking those were my people when I watched that. Like, I knew like flying car

Like that's not something that my people or anybody in India talks about or has in their lore or their culture or their mythology or anything. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Like that's a whole different thing. So when you think about that, you think Persian rugs. Do you think Persian? Yeah, or Moroccan. That's North Africa. Like with the, what do they call it, the Kufis or whatever like that?

Yeah, and those are like Muslims in North Africa or are you thinking Persia or Syria or all of that. It's Persian, isn't it? Yeah. That's what Al-Aiden is. Yeah. I'm assuming. Yeah. Okay, it was personal.

Yeah, everything was AL. And that's all original people too. So, like, that's cool. Yeah. But, like, that's not, that's not any of my people. They were in Syria. That's the thing. Assyria is still, all of that area is like,

like Babylonian Assyria. Yeah, that got carved up. Yeah, Agriba is based on many places. Aladdin's Agriba is based on many places. That's kind of the issue. Like, Genies in a bottle. There's no stories like that in any. Nothing?

No. No. Huh. But there's that new movie that came out with Idris Alba, where he plays a genie. And again, they're in a, yeah, 300, 3,000, 10,000 nights, something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it came out. It came out the same week he had that other movie where he's, like, Fighting Lions. Yeah, the same week that other movie came out.

It's a dude that made Mad Max. He made this really cool artsy movie where Idris Alba was a genie. Do you want to know something crazy? was a kid, I didn't know Aladdin wasn't white. I mean neither. What? Interesting. Interesting.

I know, I was talking to Akash about this recently. We were talking about it because Akash was like, I know that wasn't kind of what you said. He goes, I know that wasn't us, but it was the closest thing to us. So it kind of felt cool to see. And then I was like, I thought Aladdin was a white guy. Because I think that they purposely make it, whatever that word that we're looking for, androgynous, but what is cultural androgy-like, non-specific? Chris, what's the word I'm looking for?

But like, I think they purposely do it. Like, and generic? Yeah, there's like a certain. And obviously the voice. You know, it was like fucking Jonathan Taylor Thomas or some shit that was voicing it, right? Yeah, and that's the other thing too. Yeah, I mean, just give everybody a North American accent.

So I was like, oh, yeah, I think these are just fucking white people. Culturally ambiguous. Ambiguous. Ambiguous. Yes, yes, yes. Yes. So isn't that weird, though? I don't know.

It wasn't so different. you went by features and stuff like that. I mean, and Disney has done such a better job now, but back then, all this shit was racist. That was racist. Lank King was racist as fuck. All the super racist. But once it's not people,

then it's like, okay, I can suspend disbelief, right? But like when it's people, like I saw like a little bit of incanto, right? And I was like,

oh, no, this shit, Latino than a motherfucker. Yeah, and that's more modern. The modern shit, they let you know exactly what it is.

They're doing it right, yeah. Yeah. But back in the day, you know what I mean like Little Mermaid was white right yeah I don't even know

him more I don't know it's interesting because Little Mermaid is actually based off Some Norwegian shit I think it's a Dutch story or a Norwegian story Yeah and it's kind of okay Hands Christian Anderson

So it could stay white It's supposed to be Yeah It's like they're not going to change Mulan What's top? What? What? It hands Christian Anderson

That's white bro It don't need to say. Mermaids is white. Stop. Mermaids are white, bro. I'm not saying that the new version isn't. Like, wasn't it? I'm not saying mermades are white. I'm saying if the story has origins there, like Moulon. Is it? You don't think mermaids closer to the equator or the little darker? All I'm trying to say is when my man, when my man's wrote the book, he wrote him white. That's, that's, and he invented the idea or mermaids are his existing? I'm not arguing that idea. He wrote it. He wrote it. and he's from where he's from, that's the story.

I'm looking at the same way, like, are they going to let people change out Moulon? They need to do that. Hey, fair is fair, bro. As I said, for me, when I look at this stuff, I look at it as performative. I don't look at it as them trying to do it to make young kids see themselves.

I look at it. They're just trying to do it for a cash breath. And it's not done genuinely. Take great stories. No, I'm not hating on Moulon. I'm saying, for example, what they're doing with, like, Little Mermon. Are they going to flip Moulon?

Like, Moulon is clearly a fairly. Flip a little mermaid, will they flip Mulan? It's a Chinese story. They need to do Mulan but Taiwan. They need to do Mulan but Taiwan. What about that? That would be fire. They do Taiwanese Mulan?

There goes your TikTok algorithm. You think you think I'm handsome? I don't know this guy. I don't know this guy. I do not condone his hate speech. So my, my TikTok and my Instagram discovered this morning was absolutely amazing. Not anymore, though. You just.

No, now I'm fucked, but like, I mean, it was, I was dying laughing this morning, though. And my humor is getting more and more juvenile on that. Like, it was just guys farting in public and, like, as a prank. Yeah. And I was howling this morning. Come on. It was a guy. He is like a fart machine or something.

He just walks by people and he just asks some directions and then farts and it walks away. And I'm howling. And I'm sending it to my wife. And she's like, why? I guess it's kind of funny. It's just someone farting. Nothing has been funnier to me than that humor right there. A guy farting in front of people that weren't expecting it.

Also, this one was great. This is a good one. The guy goes, oh, you got to learn how to hide your farts. And he goes, yeah. That one. Tell me that's on fire. Come on, Taylor. You never farted before?

Yeah. Ew. Nasty. You know, humans fart 14 times a day. 14 times a day, Taylor farts? You farting 14 times a day? Yeah, humans fart enough to fill a balloon every day. You can fill a balloon of farts out your ass, Taylor?

What does that mean? I'm thinking of him in your trailer. No, no, no, no. So Taylor believes that she's actually a thicker presence than Charlotte Maine. And how's that related to parts, though? Well, she's, I think you keep it. I haven't asked me, okay. But you keep it more in.

Also, the bigger your ass, the more the fart sounds like a high-pitched scream. Did you know that? Like a big fat ass, there ain't enough room for it to just, right? No, yours is like this. You sound like a Mariah Carey. Like, you sound like Mariah breaking glass. That's what you're for it. It's okay, Taylor.

Come on. What is love about, humble? What's love about? What does that mean for love that I was watching fart pranks this morning? Dying as a 39-year-old in my bed. Your love for comedy. I mean, God damn, that shit cracked me up. Yo, I want to ask you, are you getting,

are you getting hate from, like, the old school comedians now? Hate from them? I feel like you're about to steal some spots. Yeah. I mean, there's a little, there's a little. There's one. There's one. There's ones.

Just doing a little hating. But it's the right one, so. Yeah. You know what I mean? I think I know. But, yeah, I was thinking about that. Yeah. But I will say a lot of the OGs have been, like, very supportive.

Most of OGs have been very supportive because, like, I think a lot of them is seeing a lot of success doing some of the things that we were able to do, like the social media stuff and, like, you know, putting comedy up on YouTube and they're seeing like that really worked for them in their career. So I think a lot of them are stoked about that. Yeah. And I try to help, you know, help out as much as I possibly can to anybody who asks. So, so, yeah.

Because you also represent a new dynamic to the hustle of Congress. Yes. The thing, especially after when a pandemic hit, you were just like, all right. We in. Yeah, we're in. Yeah. It don't matter what happened. And everybody else is trying to figure out, I can't go live.

How do I pay my bills? You're like, yo, there are 20 new ways I'm about to make some money. Exactly. And you did that. Yeah. On top of craft. Yes. Yes.

We worked the years on the craft. I think it, yeah, it's like, what is that saying? Like, it takes, you know, 10 years to be an overnight sensation or something like that. But, but yeah, I think it was just like working all that time on the craft, making sure that the quality of the product is good because you can't market dog shit. Yeah. And then taking some time, be like, okay, how do we get it out to as many people as possible? And in my estimation, most comics, they love the freedom to create the way that they want to create. You know, a lot of times comics are kind of like misfit individuals that don't really fit into traditional jobs, right?

So they really value their freedom. That's something that I value probably more than anything in the world. So finding new ways where they could put their stuff out in the exact way that they know works because they're out there on the road testing it, I think was like really liberating. for a lot of people. The young comics coming up right now. That's all they know, which is really cool. But the older one, the OGs, they're like, oh, man, I know what it's like to have Comedy Central,

tell me half the jokes I can't do. And they have a sponsorship with fucking Pepsi. So I have to change my Coca-Cola joke into a Pepsi joke to fit their thing. And now they don't got to deal with none of that shit anymore. So I think that they're like, oh, this is a cool time for comedy. Yeah, there's a cool time for comedy. I wonder if the young one's coming up will even,

you know what it is, it's cool. What is it? You want the next generation to not know your problems. You just got to make sure you don't turn into the OGs. They're like, you know, the basketball players are like,

shit, if they play defense on me, I would have dropped 60 points. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like, as long as you don't turn into one of them, I think. I live in North,

right now I live in North Hollywood and they have like the small club called a ha-ha. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I go there like once a week. Oh, yeah. And all I want to do is just,

and I'm seeing the exact same people every week. And I'm just like, I really hope that one of these people just blows. Is there something you saw that you really liked? I don't know any of the names. But this is one dude. He's like a pretty boy.

And his jokes are around knowing he's good looking. That's good. I'm talking about that. Yeah. And it's really funny because he still talks about all his defeats, like how women have still defeated him. Yeah. Despite him being good looking.

Yeah. It was that. And then at one point he called me out where he was just like, told the whole audience to fuck. He goes, this guy's laughs, it's all that matters. Yeah. That laugh out loud with like his shit goes, This guy gets me, fuck all of y'all.

I'm not worried about you guys. I'm just testing on him. Yeah. And I felt seen at that moment. So what happened? You hated Will Smith and Aladdin? Yeah. What happened? I didn't even see that one.

Oh. Was that good? I didn't see that one, bro. I didn't see that. Oh, God, too. Poor Will Smith. And that's Philly Bytes. You want to pay some bills?

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Now let's get back to this show. All right, we got church announcements, Schultz? Nah. I don't believe that. You gotta stop saying, have no church announcements. You know what somebody reminded me of last week? They was like, yo, man, y'all got so many businesses, so many entities, so many things y'all doing. Stop saying that y'all don't do nothing. You know what it is? We move on from things that we create and assist

with that we're not even thinking about it. But think about all the product you have in the ecosystem right now. Oh, I got a church announcement. Okay. I want to shout out my brother, Kid Super, man killed super is a brilliant designer and now he is uh designing uh this year's a men's collection for louis vaton and he's gonna have the show in paris so this is like a true new york creative absolutely brilliant dude wow and uh so now he's doing that so he'll be doing that paris fashion week so i want to go out there and check that but i'm super excited for him that's a big achievement man salute the kid super man humble you got how to be loved yes sir it's out yes it's been a week yeah epic yeah well humble That's going to make them run out there and get it.

Yeah, now is when you stop being humble. You know what's funny? Stop being humble, humble. It's funny. I don't know who it was, and I promise I don't know who it was, and I don't remember the context of it. But somebody within the past two weeks said they discovered me on the brilliant idiots. But the way that we're saying it was like they were ashamed. man why

why why why I don't know yeah I guess I'm like yeah I was like yeah I just you know I just

have to admit it I think discovered you on like the brilliant idiots and I was like what's wrong with that what's wrong with that I guess yeah I guess they want to find me

an NPR or something this is the perfect place listen we're the only people that accept that we are brilliant idiots that's all this world is the full of brilliant

idiots. You know, that's it. Our idiots who occasionally flashed their brilliance. One of the two. The gunshot thing, yeah. One of the two, baby. So go get How to Be loved. It's out right now. You know, me, man. Same thing. Thank you to everybody who, you know. What's your announcement?

I mean, I thank you for everybody who, you know, continues to support the Black Effect Podcast Network. You know, Taylor, you was just on your weekly conference call. And, you know, I think last year we had like a quarter. quarter million downloads or something crazy like that. You know what I mean? So salute to everybody who's been listening to The Brilliant Idiots. I said the brilliant idiots.

Thank you for everybody who's listening to Brinian Nidis, but thank you to everybody who's just been checking out the podcast on the Black Effect Podcast Network. We got some... I think probably you meant quarter billion. What I say? Quarter million. Oh, yeah.

Damn, you're right. A quarter billion. Yeah. Duh. You're right. It was a quarter billion. You know, it was a quarter billion. So thank you.

And, you know, we got some podcasts that we're going to be announcing real soon. Same thing with Black Privilege Publishing. Thank you to everybody who supported. Oh, Tamika Mallory and Anita Copac's Shallow Waters. This is a church announcement because this just went out. We're doing a Black Privilege book publishing conversation in Brooklyn. It's me, Tamika Mallory and Anita Copac in Brooklyn. Let me find a damn date.

February 8th at 7 p.m. We'll be at the Brooklyn Library, myself, Tamika Mallory, and Anita Co-Pax to talk about Black Privilege Publishing and, you know, how their books have influenced, you know, a lot of people's lives. So if you've got to need a Copac, shallow waters, if you have Tamika Mallory's state of emergency, we will be out there. And I cannot wait to announce the other books that we have coming out. Can you give us a little teaser? No, I can't. The only reason I don't want to do that is because it would be too obvious and I don't want to step on nobody's rollout. You know what I mean? Books are very special to people and I want people to be able to

announce, you know, their work the way they want to. And then when they announce, I will be there supporting them 100%. Okay. Yes. And make sure you check out the projects we got on SBAH productions on Audible Finding Tamika, which was the number one true crime audio series last year for 22 and check out some of 85 by our guy Chris Moreau. Okay. Okay. Now let's get back to the show. I did one of your, I did one of your shows. You did one of the shows. Yeah, I played like a contestant on a love show. Oh, of the SBH production.

Oh, yeah, that's coming out, Unleashed with Love. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's, that was, that, that was, when we announced the SBAH productions, we announced the Slate a show, so I can talk about that. Yeah, my, my, my good sister, Alicia Renee,

you know, she's got a project coming out coming out, and unleashed with love. It's actually our first, uh, audio scripted, yeah, sitcom. Like, the, the first two, projects we put out were documentaries, you know what I mean, finding Tamika and some of 85, but this is actually an audio scripted, you know, series. So it's a lot of really interesting people on that. But yeah, at least Renee, at least we'll love. It'll be out this year. We don't

have the exact date yet, but it'll definitely be out this year. Damn, dope. So Humble, you said something interesting. You said you feel like you have to, you had to get out of Toronto. Yeah. No, L.A. Oh, no. Toronto. Toronto. Because you said you were thinking about moving in New York. And I was like, why? You're in Toronto, but I forgot you was in LA. And I'm like, but Toronto's dope. I feel like Toronto's dope for inspiration.

And I mean, like, it's such a dope-ass city. But, like, the scale is not there. Like, you know, in terms of the population, in terms of the opportunities. So it's like you have to leave and come to the states because it's just more opportunities, more challenges here. You think you're good at whatever you do. You come out here. You're going to find a thousand people better.

than you. So it's just a bigger pool of competition to make you step up your game and then just access to money and funds is way bigger out here. So that's why I moved to LA to explore it over there. So all of these people that have been successful in Toronto that we've seen recently, you know I'm going with it, the Drake's, the weekends, the Justin

Bieber, they haven't created an infrastructure in Toronto? I mean, a lot of them are in music, so I don't even know what the infrastructure would look like. Yeah. But I mean, I feel like the one thing Drake definitely has done is just like made room. Like you don't have to you don't have to like be in his good graces to have a career in Toronto and music. You know, people can do a bunch of stuff and never cross paths with him and he's not going to get in the way. I've seen a lot of independent artists do well that way.

But it's like, yeah, his success still came from the states and international. And now he's building something over there now. So I think, and that's a cool thing about it because I think probably, you know, in 20 years, Toronto will probably be a world-class cultural city. 20? I feel like, yeah. But I mean, I mean, comparable to like a Paris in London in New York at that point. That's great, because I look at Toronto with reverence.

It is. But it's just young. It's just a younger city and it's smaller. You're talking about like opportunities, financial opportunities. Yeah. Like I'm a best selling author in Toronto. And it would be like a lower middle class life. Right?

You're a bestselling author here in America. like you're living good. Yeah. So it's like that. Talk to him. You know, so it's like, and again, even the country. Don't be humble about that, bro. You're New York Times bestselling art.

Yeah, man. And then like, so from that standpoint, it's like understanding that. And it's like there's only a handful of major cities. Right. In Canada. So you can only tour so much. You can only do so much. Yeah.

And then like, you know, there's, as I said, I love the city though. And I, and my goal is to move back. My goal is to create. Like, I moved to L.A. Because I got involved in like TV writing. the script that I'm writing is about Toronto. So I want to take that American budget and show as you should.

Yeah, and then I want to be, yeah, being your family, being my sister. Even for the winter? Yeah, I don't mind doing it. Really? Yeah. I'm doing ice bass, man. Yeah, fuck that, bro.

You know what I realize, especially living in L.A. where every day is the exact same, I feel like, it's good for the joints. It'll be good for your needs. It's definitely, it's good for the joints, but I think just having diversity and weather and as I said, having resilience. I feel like I'm getting, I went,

I went to a birthday party and they had a heated pool and the heated pool was 88 Fahrenheit. I'm Celsius. I don't even know how much that is. That's great. People were complaining that it was too cold. Too cold?

Yeah. They were saying it was too cold and I was like, I was like, this water don't feel cold. Like my nipples ain't hard. Like what are you talking about. Yeah. But I realized that's what happened.

You just get soft enough. You just get soft. Yeah. You're just not used to weather. You're not used to anything uncomfortable. And it's like, really? The same weather. I think it depends in L.A.

Because you're not talking about the hood of L.A., of course. Yeah. You know what I mean? Because I can hear glasses from Lones hearing this right now. And I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, well, I'm not.

Yeah, I'm not. Yeah, and they even have colder weather more south in L.A., I guess. They would say you're talking about Hollywood. Yeah. And that's what it is. I shouldn't be saying Los Angeles. I should be saying Hollywood. And I shouldn't be talking about L.A.

people. I should be talking about the industry. Because that industry is like social media in real life. Yeah, yeah. It's all of that. But I think that's what I realized. And it's like also like I had a moment where like I was trying to go with some friends and they canceled because it's too cold. And whatever the temperature was, like my mom was bragging about how nice it is in Toronto.

Yeah. And it was colder. So I was like, there's something about this four seasons and the resilience. And even here I've been like walking everywhere. Yeah. And enjoying it and missing that and missing energy. You can't walk around anywhere in LA. Yeah.

So. And again, so the goal is that happens. to be in America because the scales here. So it's either LA or New York. I don't know anywhere else bigger than Trump. That's what I could see myself missing in LA would definitely be the interaction with the people. And even if I'm not talking to them, just seeing them exist. And that's the beauty of New York. It's like you just walk and you see people working.

You see people going to work, coming from work. There's like a movement to the city, right? And it's a really healthy thing. It pushes you. And I think when you live in a more suburban place, you just check out from work so much easier, right? It's like, I go to work, and then when I'm home, I don't even got to think about home. And that's great for life, I imagine. Like, it really allows you to create that separation between, like, work and play. And, but it's not great for the grind, because the grind is

there is no separation. But what are we trying to do, you know? We're trying to settle down. We're trying to have a family. We're trying to focus on that. And play is really important. Yeah. But then also, like, as a creator, you need to, like, have these conversations be outside to have material. I guess it is finding that balance. Do you think your industry is respected? And what I mean by that is when we talk about books, right? I think it's because we're, I'm 44, but I'm still say younger. Like, it seems like the book industry is still like a older medium.

Like, people respect it from, they respect the Judy Blooms of the world and, you know, the people who have been doing it for a long time. But when you say you're at New York Times bestselling author, or I say I'm a New York Times bestselling author, or I say I got a book in print, do you think people give a fuck? I mean, I started with music. And then what I realized was they're comparable. Like, you have a hit song going tour. You have a hit book going to her.

I feel like at least with books, people who mess with books, the quality of them and their relationship with you is better. Yeah. Someone can like you for it. I mean, people don't even like you for a hit song now. They like you for eight seconds of your hit song. Yeah. You know, whereas that's not happening with a book.

Somebody read your book. You guys have a meaningful connection. I told people they don't like me. but they like my book. I've literally had people say, I never liked you on the radio, on podcast, but I love Black Privilege.

I love Shook Winner. It's a lot of time they're investing in you. Yeah. We're talking about hours, days, weeks. Yeah. And it's not fickle. It's not going to be as fickle. Whereas like, oh, I like their first book

and then I'm not going to give the second book a chance. Yeah. And it's slow. I think what I liked a lot about getting into this versus music and everything, and even social media, It's like this is slow art. Like this is three years in the making.

And that's not considered long. That's not considered a long like Kendrick Lamar five years between albums type situation. So I like that. And that's why I'm trying to get into TV because that's even slower. I'm just trying to, I just want to do slow art versus this fast stuff. It's like, you got to make a song. You got to make seven million clips to advertise the song.

Man. Everyone loves the song. That's the only song they know. And then you go out and perform it. And then everyone only knows that song or eight seconds of that because they, and they call it a sound. Yeah. And I feel like that's heartbreaking if you bust your ass trying to make something.

And they refer to it as a sound and they're using it and doing a stupid dance. Like all of that I think is different versus like there are people on TikTok that just read quotes from my book. Yeah. And build a following off of my quote. I don't care. Like the energy is. Yeah.

And it's also just like, they're still spreading goodness and, you know, by all means. So I think for me, I'm chasing that slower art because I'm trying to make a living off of this versus just stroking. You go. Yo, hold up that. I'm going to tell you why I love that because I never thought about that. Music really is for the moment. Yeah.

Like, you can go in the studio and literally write about, you know, what you went through that day. But if you really trying to create like a body of work, like that's going to stand the test of time, you got to go live some life. Yeah. In a real way. Yeah. I will say, though, nothing impacts humans like music.

It doesn't. It is the most powerful. And I say this is to someone who makes comedy for living. Some who enjoys, like, toiling away, like you're saying, for, like, even putting together this next hour, it's just going to take time to put it in, grind, grind. And even when it's ready to make it more ready, more. And I like that process, but I see the way,

like I went to the Michael Jackson Broadway play, and I saw just the way that not even Michael Jackson's singing Michael Jackson affects you in the audience, and your eyes on it. And you're watching fake Michael Jackson as if he's real Michael Jackson. And it's just, and then the first beat of the song comes on, and then your brain is blasted with all these memories that you've had with the song

and how it affected you and the times and places where you've been. I think that's slow art, though. I think off the wall is slow art. I think Thriller was slow art. I mean, I don't know how long. I'm sure that you could look it up, but I'm sure Quincy Jones and Michael

didn't go make that shit in a week. And people were also consuming it that way. Like, if I start today from scratch making music, the hustle is drop singles. Singles, single, single, single, single, and now make 40 music. music videos for one single, right? It's not make something cinematic and beautiful.

And the challenge with that is, anybody who's making music today grew up off of the slower art. You grew up, you know, where you listen to somebody's album and you heard album cuts, and you heard, you know, skits, and you heard a body of work, which now is going to be extremely difficult for you to earn people. So, for example, like, someone discovers you, they discover a clip of a joke,

And then that's enough for them to check a special. Yeah. Right. Oh, it's enough for them to hate him forever and never even want to hear about him. Also true. Yeah. Also true.

But in music, like in music, I think that's where it's at where it's like the gap. That, it moved so quickly to that where it's like you're selling these moments and they're monetizing these moments and monetizing these sounds. And I think that's where it's not there. Whereas again,

with the book, like what I realized, because my first book, I self-published. I was, I wrote a book because I was, trying to sell it as merch at my music shows. And I was like, what's better than a t-shirt for 20 bucks? So I wrote a-a-a-shirt for 10 bucks? A t-shirt for 10 bucks? But I wrote a book and I

self-published it and sold it for 20 bucks at the shows until I did a show in Vancouver, and I'm not lying. A hundred percent of the audience was female and they were holding the book. And none of them even knew I made music and the only guys that were there were the dudes I came with. And I was like, oh, because it's easier to read a black and white text than it is to understand lyrics. Yeah. Tell us rapping about the same stuff I write. Yeah. And then it was like, okay, now instead of playing this hustle, and then I had two or three songs that like got a million streams, and then again, you start to realize like you're dependent on this hit. When's your next hit?

Yeah. Whereas with the book, is you build a trust with them. All I have to do is be more honest. I don't have to make it a hit. Or maybe you found your medium. I think, I think my medium is putting words together. I do have a dream for music still in the context. I think what I would want to do in the long run, and I'll put this out there now and try to live up to it, is like make 10 minutes a year and, like, go on a DJ Clue or the LA Lakers and just do 10 minutes.

Yeah. Free soundly? Yeah. I didn't know you rap, Tom, me. Yeah. I can rap. I can rap. I can rap.

Well, the floor is yours. The floor is yours. You need to stand up? You know, like, what do you need? You need a bean? So, again, Humble, the poet came from the idea. I used to battle rap. I thought you was,

so it came from me, I thought you was doing this. Well, my rap sounds like spoken word, but not like, but I can rap. I have, Humble, I never knew you rap, bro.

And I follow you, I've never known that. Yeah, you can look, you've interviewed him multiple times. I never knew he rap. Yeah. I like Humbo's brain.

Humble's never, I've never even heard Humble say this. I've never heard you say you rap, we can pull up some breakfast club interviews. I've definitely talked about, You made music, but I didn't think, I don't know why I didn't think rap. I never thought of rap. And then I got into producing during the pandemic.

I started making bees. But I have, I, and I work with really talented producers, like musical savant level dudes. And so I've been, yeah, so I still, like, I write verses almost every day. Okay, can we get some bars, bro? Humble. Time out. Can we get some bars, bro? Humble.

I love you. It's going to be a safari moment. Humble, that's what I'm saying. I love you. I don't want this to happen. It's not up to. All right. All right. Let me get, look, no, no, no shit.

Here, let me, look, look, I'm going to gas myself up even more. Okay. And then I'll live up to it, okay? I, when I first, first ever came to New York, I went to Sedgwick-Cicter app. I love hip-up. I went to the place that hip-hop was born. Okay. Didn't know how to-created hip-hop?

Yes. I had no idea how to get there. I remember, it was like a mission. Yeah. I get there and there some dudes sitting on a stoop and like a nerd, I walk up to these guys. And I was like, hey, this is the building where hip-hop started immediately. like, fuck you, get the fuck out of here. And I said, that's the most New York shit.

That just means, hi, you're welcome. That's all that means. They did that to me when I went to the joker stairs in the Bronx. They did, man. I'm just trying to relive this fucking movie moment. You don't have any clowns around the stairs? Yeah, bro. I see, that's my own fucking class, boy.

I was all that I'm fucking class, right? Cows always do me dirty, bro. Oh, my God. So go on, go on. So I'm like, yo, let me rap for you. And if it's shit, like, I'll fuck off. And they caught me off after two bars. And then it was all love after that.

Two bars. I didn't even finish a verse. And that was back then when I was, it's fine, right? Two bars. No, I have. You let you get two? I feel so uncomfortable right now.

So uncomfortable. This is, if you don't want to beat, let him go Acapella. You want to do Acapella? I can just do it, Acapella. Yeah, let me do aquaella. I don't even know what that was. You bought it. Alex put off his little shitty beat that he made it.

Alex made that here at WTF. When nobody's here, when nobody's here, he's in there making me. I tell you, he dressed like a hip-hop producer. Can I be great? Doesn't he dress like a hip-hop producer? All right. Okay, here's the thing. Home with a poet.

Here's the thing. If I suck, just tell me I suck. Okay. And if you like it, then please help me live out this dream of finding one place once a year that I could drop a freestyle. All right, you drop it right here. Right here, it's going to be your spot. And I'll do it with a beat then. And I can just spend my year working on that 10 minutes for five minutes.

10 minutes is a lot. I'm not black thought. All right. Is there a theme to this? I'm going to just do one about love. About love. Okay. Let me get it off.

I don't even know if I'm laughing at Andrew. I mean, I have music videos. I write in the record. You guys are watching my shit. Trust me. I know I don't. Watch this shit. Shut up, man.

Since I began, people, listen, this ain't nothing. I'm not even phased by this. People are surprised I can speak English. You think I worry about people thinking I can't spend it. I would not. I don't want to call you Humphari when this is old. Let's go, humbo. Even though you thought you were my sunny day, you left me burnt.

And the tan line exists around the space where my heart is, it was. You thought that because there was a dependency, we can call that shit love, but it wasn't. Love is something you don't know, and we too passionate to pass it up so fast forward. Skip the Akronus, the mushy parts to 143 at that moment when we realized a ship is going sink, uh-oh. Funny now that I admit it, but another six or seven months had passed before we splits, uh-oh. That's two seasons of bullshit, followed by the coldest winter, then healing bullets where butterfly wings came, saying stupid things, man, all up in my brain, now my fame it gets to blame then? Yeah, I got a couple fans, but it's only me and you in this room.

arguing. We loathe loneliness so much. Love becomes something we lust. We were settling, like the dust when one of us would grab the others' heart and beat it like they stole something to give it back and act like we ain't even hold nothing. The truth is we just fucking scared. To die alone, but love don't help us die in pairs, so why to fare? Every new girl I meet makes me see a side of me that previously I never met amazing what was hiding here. And yeah, I cried some tears. Come on in wood and getting jerked up out my comfort zone wasn't pleasant. I couldn't bear. A life lacking security a certainty. Now, I'm addicted to adventure of 180, certainly, and change

is constant. I'm sure you're changing too. For the better, but what I'm saying is I can't change with you. It's getting old for sure. Always standing toe to toe, competing with our speeches, but for me to grow, I got to go. Okay. But that ain't rap. That sounds like poetry.

What's rap? What's rap? What's rap? The rap is rhyming words. M.C. is communicating with rhymes. And I call myself humble the poet saying, I'm elevating it tonight. I grew up on Andre C,000. Yeah, well, I can, I can see that. You put up, I have songs.

I have like song, songs with hooks and singing. No, the, the lyrical content was there. It just sounded like a poem. Like, I don't know why when I, when somebody says they about the rap, I'm expecting like a, you want me to rap about guns? No, no, no, no, it's just like a, it's like a, it's like a cadence. Wait, man, what do you mean? You know when a rap, when you hear a rap, you, you, you, you, the difference

hearing a rapper, rap and hearing a poet spit poetry. That sounded like, that was definitely poetry. That was beautiful. I thought it was amazing. That goes on a beat. You put on a beat, it sounds the same. It might just have a little bit more melody to it.

Even though you thought you were my sunny day, you left me burnt in the tan line, exists around the space where my heart is. See? That's what I mean. You see the difference. That's the difference. Yeah, we needed that.

That's the difference. We needed that. We needed that because I was listening to it. And it was like, I was like, wow, this is beautiful. And I'm like, wow, do I relate to these experiences? Oh, am I finding new things about my? myself with each person I did. Oh, I do. I do. Like, it was really great how you can do that, but I understand what I'm saying.

I'll give you an example. Everybody talks about the Safari freestyle. This is not that. No. His delivery was there. It wasn't no content. Ah. With Humble, the content was there, but I didn't hear the rap delivery. But when you did what you did just now, I'm like, oh, okay. You needed, you need beats or you don't like the beats? I mean, I can do beats. I just didn't know what, like, what beat they'd pull up. You want to try it again with the rap cadence? Just to see? I'm just saying.

You want to try to get with the rap cases. So hard, bro. Why is it hard? Being in your position to be like the arbiter of rap, I am not the arbiter of rap. I'm just saying, like. Listen, I read Humble's books. Yeah. If Humble wants to rap, I'm going to support them in that.

You know what I mean? This is, look, this is what happened. I started doing spoken word poetry and coffee shops to meet girls. That's how it all started. Yeah. Then one day I was in a room full of people and they said some shit about how kids are stupid and they don't listen And I was used to be a school teacher and I was like kids aren't stupid you don't know how to speak to them So what I did was I took minority report from Jay-Z and I put it on the background and I tried to write a poem

And then I obviously snapped onto the beat so then it sounded like a rap song and I made the song and I didn't put my name on it I didn't put my face on it had a lyrics video and I dropped that shit like 2008 and then that shit in Toronto went viral No one knew my face or anything and then I didn't put my face or anything and then I didn't put my face or anything and then I I didn't even think I had my, I didn't even have Humble the Poet back then. Then I, and I recorded in some dude's basement against a mattress. And then they're like, yo, do you have a rap name? And I was like, I was thinking Humble to Poet. They're like, that's a stupid rap name.

And I was like, well, fuck you. I'm using it. So that's what it is. I have a stupid rap name. Well, back then, it was funny because some guys like, you know, social media. That's a long handle. And I was right. Yeah.

But from that guy, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And I was just like out of spite. I was like, fuck y'all, I'm going to use this. And then then somebody heard my voice at a wedding. and they recognize it off the song. Because I was scared back and then to put anything out.

Since then, like, I've released. Like, I have singles. I have music out. I have albums. I'm called Righteous and Ratchet. All right. Yeah. Can we hear one more?

Everything's going to sound poetic right now. What do you mean? Should we do a beat? Should we bring that minority report beat up? Why should we just pull up something that's on YouTube? You can pull up something on YouTube. Pull up something on YouTube. Why are you looking at me?

That's because you're doing a podcast. Don't look at me, bro. I performed at Lollapalooza. For real? Yeah. Like, as I said, I was heavy on the music hustle. Then you start to realize, like,

when I got, the book happened by accident. And then, nothing happens by accident. Well, I wrote the book, I self-published it. It got picked up four years later.

The book got picked up by a publishing company four years after you self-published. Yeah. That wasn't unlearned. That was. Oh, wow, wow, wow,

I love one. Because what I did was, I did an Apple commercial in Toronto where I did spoken words, and then that put me on the map, and then they looked me up, realize I had a book, And they're like, oh, let's get this.

The bookstore, the actual bookstore, Indigo, which is like the Barnes & Noble over here, they reached out and they licensed the book. And then I plugged it in the system. It became a bestseller. And then that's when I connected with Mark out here. And then he got me deals out here. Wow.

I mean, I got, that's how I got introduced to humble dude. So they still, even in the back of them, they still write rapper. But as I said, like, you know, I grew up, as I said, I grew up on like Outcast. I grew up on Andre T, 2000. That's why everything sounds poetic.

Yeah. Yeah. Andre got there, but, no, you're right. Andre did get there a little later, though. Like that cadence that kind of like slower flow is almost like he's just talking to you. That was more later Andre than early on. Oh, no. Yeah.

Elevators was like that. What is this? New Humble. Well, oh, humble. What is this? Oh, you put on a one of the songs. Just put on something. Yeah, I want to hit one on, put on Humble.

Y'all are so crazy. They just went to chill, hop music and just pulled up a random-ass beat that they won't Humble the Rapo. I'm not. That is, why would you do that? I'm not Corday, man. I can't like go, just go endless on a beat. What song you want?

Tell them, give him the song, Humble. You have to spell it out for Taylor. I have a song called Hair. Humble to poet Hair. Humble the poet Hair. You know how to spell Hair, Taylor? Oh, how'd you spell hair? Probably H-A-R-E.

She's probably put Humble in the Hair. She was like, I'll learn that in elementary school. Oh, there's a video for it, too. This is the song? Throw up for your city now It feel like a beginning Now the rucky Yeah the decade

In the record Always spinning Yeah I'm living out my every dream I'm wide awake and every skin Go and hit the mark Like laser beam And we won't stop

As major things Just throw them up I said throw them up We pray for that you showing up So pop that shit And pull it up And assalam ala-a-le-le-s Sussi-Garl and what to do

A couple break-ups Couple makeups now I wake up next to you Hey I sing too 31st of February you were never coming but I love where your hair feels. Yeah, I love you in July. Love you in September. Like the traffic in the lay, I thought this was...

I think you got a lead with this, Humble. Like, you should have gave us this first. I might edit the freestyle out. Wow. No, I'm serious. I'm like, you gotta lead with this. No, but even this, this is not even lyrical. This is just-

Give us the lyrical. What's the hard song? This is all called by any means necessary. By any means necessary, Taylor. There's a beautiful, there's a beautiful lyrics. By is spelled B-Y. With that song hair based off a true story? Yeah, it was just based off a girl that annoyed the hell out of me.

I love that press replay shit. Yeah. Because you're reliving those moments, you know what I mean? Yeah. Because it's like learning song structure? Yeah, that middle one. Lead with that humble. Next to me.

So this beat, can you just pause for one second? We'll tell you like this beat. This beat is a, uh, Vogue. So this beat is Vogue. So this beat is like, Madonna? Yeah. So this beat was like,

when we originally made the song, just like a fuck you to homophobia. Like we, we rap, made a hard song on Vogue. Because Vogue music is associated, you know, with like Vogue dancing and all of that. So I was going to shoot a dope video for this within the pandemic hit.

So there's some gay shit? Just the beat. It's the beat. Yeah. No, but the No, listen, man, the producer's gay who made this beat and they Why y'all laugh?

He schooled me on this, but that was the thing. Why don't you laugh is so much? The guy is so crazy. No, the producer that made this beat is gay. He's got to acknowledge. He's dope. That's not what he said. He said it's a fuck you to homophobia, man.

It's a fuck you the homophobia beat. But like, like, it's rapping over. Fuck you the homof. It's rapping over Vogue, but making it sound. That's that what I just said? Fuck you to homophobia. Fuck you to homophobia. Homophobia.

Exactly. The people who are homophobic. So fuck you to them. Yeah. Oh. Okay. But he said the producer's gay. And he's called you though.

Yeah, no. Like he's called me like, he made me, my producer's gay. Right. Oh, man. We're going to walk through today. Come on. But the whole thing was like, he made me watch this dope-ass about New York. It's called Burning in Paris, Midnight in Paris.

What's that when they fall down? The dance is about like the 80s, yeah, but it's about like the 80s and the 80s and how many of them get murdered and killed and all of that. But it was like just, yeah, about like that whole scene in the 80s. And I watched that and he was, he educated me on what Vogue music actually was. And then we, he made a Vogue beat and we was on it. Madonna Vogue was fire. This is real Vogue. That Madonna shit wasn't real. You're ready to get gay, bro. Yeah. Let's go!

Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. You are Everything that's new is scary So we hurry to waxery There's an app for that

An after fact of ditching God is you can advocate For Lucifer you spit in knowledge But try living like a superstar That's spot like on leave a Bugger sing Malcolm X Dudley George I fucking

Rip Bugget sing Malcolm X Dudley George You got to explain your names I need to know why I need to know why I'm fucking rap

Bucket sing Malcolm X Dudley Georgia fucking rip I think I'm so mad you spit that freestyle first bro I am so upset at you bumble

It's a fire bro That's what I'm saying This ain't even that gay No it's gay I didn't see that much gay things in it He started off saying

12 inch dick But that could be straight too But why Why those Why those I'm assuming I think I know, but why those three names? Okay, so Fuggesting was like the dude, he was a revolutionary in India, fighting the British to get them out of India.

He don't get the credit. The credit goes to Gandhi. Okay. So Gandhi was like the non-violent sitting and whatever. Fuggesting was doing the dirt, fighting, you know, doing all that, and he was executed. Okay. Y'all know Malcolm makes the story. And then Dudley George, people don't notice.

Dudley George is a Canadian. He's a native from Canada. he did a blockade over some, a corporation was taken over land and he built a blockade. And what happened was he had like a pickup truck, he had a stick in his hand. And the police in Ontario, like the Ontario provincial police, they sniper them. They killed him. Wow. Yeah.

And he was completely unarmed. So it was one of those. got you so speaking like like i because i grew up in activism i grew up i grew up with these types of heroes like the autobiography of malcolm x was like the first thing that like changed my life getting into that mumia abu jamal all it is so i started the music spitting through the lens of activism and and everything was for that and uh and i was doing that forever so it was just finding different ways to do it so i rep these guys but at the same time they're all gone what made you want What made you pick up that cause?

It's kind of from, so this is much later in the journey. So this is much more like trying to abandon idealisms where it's like pick your battles. So like if we think like right now, for example, like you have activism the way someone like Jay-Z does it, which is like behind the scenes paying people's legal fees to fight cops or whatever. Right. But then you'll have like, you know, someone who's out loud insane stuff in public like Kanye or something like that. No, like a Tamika Mallory. Tameca Mallory.

Anybody. Yeah. Anybody say, well, even old Kanye. Even old Kanye. You know, like George Bush don't care about a black guy. You know, and there's always, you're putting, you're putting kind of a target on your head. So I'm like, that spotlight, don't leave a dot on your head like Hindu brats. So I'm trying to be as ignorant and as smart.

I'm trying to be a brilliant idiot in that song. Yeah. So that's why the first line is Big Dick 12 inch need a ruler Slick Rick. It's ignorant, but it's clever. Then you said poke somebody in the eye. Because Slick Rick has an iPad. I know. Yeah.

I caught it. I'm trying to. So I'm trying to eye with that big dick. He didn't. Poking me the optical. I thought I, but I go third eye blur. I'm talking about, like, that's what pokes you in the third eye. Yeah.

I'm trying to, like, do this, like, I think ratchet and righteous type situation. But the goal is, again, how do you speak to young people without sounding preaching? Right, where, where, right? No, I'm with you. Yeah, that was fire. Yeah, you notice I didn't ask none of these questions about that freestyle.

I asked about these two songs. And again, like, as I said, when I started with spoken word poetry, so everything for me comes from the poetic lens. Yeah. When I do with music is different, but like, as I said, so now, do we believe I can rap? Yes. Yes, absolutely. The freestyle.

This one, this one has a whole bunch of other people on it. But, like, I saw rap on this. What he's, what? The freestyle was rap. It just didn't have the beat to make it. You wanted the energy. You wanted the energy. The cadence.

I think he wanted to feel like in his mind. I just wanted to prove that the lyrics didn't suck, but I get what you're saying. Yeah, this was, with those two songs, I'm like, all right. I fuck with. I can hear it. Okay. You know what I mean? And again, and then I started learning about like making, like I learned

I'm pulling that guy over. I'm letting you know right now. Like that's right. So there's a song called Love Don't Pay the Rent. And also that song here that had no samples. This song has no samples either. That's what I'm working with guys that like figured this. When was this video made?

This is maybe like five years ago. This is somebody else. You don't age humble. Jesus Christ. Yeah, I don't stress myself out. This is rap, rap. That's not you, though. Who's that?

No, this is a young kid out of Toronto. I don't even know if you've rap anymore. This was the producer asked me to jump on the joint. The producer, his name is Thickick. He's super talented. And then he asked me to jump on the joint for this guy. Are you rapping?

You just drive a Uber. You want to know why that joke actually? You know. Come on. You know, it's crazy. Shalda. Shown me. Why?

Crazy. Crazy. Oh, my God. You know what's so funny. I'm working on a script right now. And the script has a lot of, like, racist banter in it. I don't know if that was racist or accurate. You know why I found the offensive?

Okay. Because I'm the son of a cab driver. Oh, shit. And that's what killed. They killed his in. Yeah. So that offended me from that. Oh, what do you mean?

Oh, shit. Uber killed cabdress, man. We got my dad out, though. We got my dad out. Damn. But, yo, that's ill what you said to hold. Because it was, he, he said he didn't take an offensive because he found it racist. Yeah.

It's because the Uber took out your dad's business. My dad's don't take Uber. Right. There was cab drivers just committing suicide, bro. But I met, I met the dude because I watched it. He did a talk and he started talking about, he was talking about New York and he started talking about it being a redundant business and all that. And I went to the old CEO and I went up to him and I was like, yo, that's my dad's pension, man.

Yeah. That plate was my dad's. pension. Yeah, the medallion. The medallion. And my dad just got the medallion. And you guys cut it in thirds. Yeah. More than that. It's useless now. So there was no cab drivers that evolved with the times? A lot of them did, but the ones that bought the medallion because the medallions were limited

and they were going for half a million dollars. The medallion is the right to become a cab driver. What? So in New York, there's only 1,300 medallion. Oh, so only 1,300 legal taxes. And then they would split them up to do a night shift and day shift. And then Uber came out and made those medallions that were so lucrative that the dude to put all their fucking life savings into. You got to find a medallion owner and pay him rent to rent the medallion to drive the cab.

And I'm not thinking it was a perfect situation. So what was happening was people own the medallions for generations and they wasn't even driving cabs anymore. They were just renting them out to people. It was like a property. It was an asset. Yeah.

Yo, that's a story. So they killed the asset, yeah. Massive. No, that was a stuck. I'm thinking about when people killed themselves, Charlotte. This is for real. Like they committed suicide.

So my dad in Toronto, they gave him a government medallion. So it was like you don't pay rent, but this has no value. Then they sued and they got it to be where you can own it and sell it. And then Uber came in. And the medallion was probably worth at its peak, maybe like 400 grand. And by the time my dad got out, it had to get sold for like 100. Yeah.

Because we talk about the advanced mission technology and how that makes the world better. But what about stories like this? So I wonder what other things that we think make the world better and more convenient that have actually hurt people? Amazon. Well, everything. What did Amazon hurt? Yeah, they're just killing them on a pop store. Oh, shit.

I think they also have a department that you can pitch your ideas with them and they just steal them. Bro, they wait, they look and see, I mean, like, I'm not, and we don't complain because it helps the consumer. So the idea with, like, breaking up monopolies was always it hurts the consumer. But Amazon is the type monopoly where it helps the consumer, right? Yeah. Because the products just keep being cheaper and more convenient to get to us. But, like, they got all the data for what sells. So let's say you're selling backpacks at your store and the backpacks are going like crazy.

what Amazon does is, oh, wow, people like those backpacks. All right, so we'll make the exact same backpack from the Amazon logo. Amazon Basic. Yeah, it's called Amazon Basics. And then we'll pitch it to the people that are looking for backpacks on our website. Wow. But none of us complain because imagine life without Amazon right now? So the same thing with Uber.

I'm thinking about that artificial intelligence shit that they're talking about. Not artificial intelligence that's doing the work for people and writing books for them and people. Yeah. I use it. I've been doing it where I take a picture of a quote in the book. And I'll highlight the whole chapter of the book. And I'll put in chat GPT and be like, yo, summarize this in 2,000 characters.

Wow. Because that's the Instagram caption. And then it'll just write me my caption based off my work. Kid, uh, you need to tell me you can write one quote. I know, I do the opposite. I'll highlight the whole chapter,

which is like four pages. And I'll be like, summarize this in 2,000 characters, because that's the Instagram caption limit. And it'll summarize it. And then I'll be like, now re-summarize it for a five-year-old. And then it'll take,

it'll take the big words out. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. What the fuck am I paying Chris for? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to get it. Chris.

Chris is done. Chris is done. Chris is done. Yo, it's just all about, yeah, figuring out how to use it. But like, yo, it's, yeah. Chris is done. And I get that. Like, I understand this idea like, you know, like, what do you say to the DVD maker when

when streaming comes out? Or what do you say to the VCR maker when the DVD comes up? I get it. It happens, right? And I think even with my dad's situation, like, I saw it happening. I'm like, you need to retire now. Like, get out now. Smart cash out.

Yeah. He got on 2015. Like, get out now. So he was smart. Yeah. Because didn't Netflix try to sell the Blockbuster? I tried something to shit like that. Yeah.

But this is the tricky thing when like government restricts certain industries to protect the people that are in them. It's like those are very vulnerable if there's a business like Uber is coming on. It doesn't give a fuck about it. government said. So Uber basically came around and the government was like, we're going to find you if you do it. And they were like, okay. Yeah, they built it in. They didn't give a fuck. They got fine. And they just bullied themselves into every city, no matter how much they would get fine. I think like

Vancouver, for example, has, well, now, now they're not in Vancouver because they're not in Vancouver pushed them out. It was actually really funny because my boy, Mark, you know, Mark, who opens for me on, on the road, uh, one of the jokes he has about Uber. And like the first thing he did, he went on stage. And he was like, he's like, man I took an Uber here and blah blah he's getting into this joke and he doesn't realize that the crowd is like you ain't take no goddamn Uber to the fucking show Uber's not

in Vancouver. Holy shit Mark. So you Mark needed artificial intelligence to help him write that goddamn joke. But I remember it was in Edmonton when the government was pushing back and like all rides are free. And then everyone's downloading the app and getting free rides everywhere in Edmonton

and they're absorbing the cost but they're getting people used to it. Exactly. And the challenge with this too, they're a good John Oliver thing about AT&T in the 70s how they had a monopoly and the government actually got them to break it up and that's the reason we have answering machines and the internet commercial internet

so it's like we don't know what innovations are being suppressed right now with the what pretty much the fangs I guess what is it is Facebook Apple Amazon Google with those big companies we don't know when it's restricted and there's no

competition would it try to bring it up well they can't it's too late now because it was it was supposed to be the last Congress apparently would have had the balls to do it. You got to look at them like utilities. Like that's electric. You got electric. You get water.

Then you get Facebook. It's actually un-American to break them up. Because you're a society that's a free enterprise, right? You're a society that we want you to be innovative. And we tell you if you can create great ideas and get rich. Enterprise can restrict free. Yeah, because they're being government. That's the idea with the monopolies.

It's like if you own everything, then nobody else can compete with. you and if there's no competition, then you're not liberating them. You can actually restrict them. Like, that's what Rockefeller did. I think when it came to the oil. He's like, I'm going to buy all the refineries. I'm going to buy the mid-level, right? So there's like three tiers to what creates a, I think, monopoly.

It's like, who's creating the goods, who's refining the goods, who's selling it. And he got the middle shit. So he's like, you want to sell some? You got to come to me. You want to refine your shit? You got to come to me. Now he had both of them by the ass. I don't see how you can be mad at that.

So here's why you got to be mad at it because citizens united because corporations have rights and corporations can lobby politicians without limit. So Amazon gives more money to the government than any other corporation. So now all these politicians work for them. Yeah. Right? So now if you're trying to start a company and they already have all these politicians in their pocket, they're going to block you from doing it.

Yeah. Right? And they block you using different rules and laws and all of that stuff. Right. So now you have it. I think the good example is like public transit. Public transit gets stopped in a lot of major cities because oil money pays the politicians to ban it. And they're like, no, these projects are going nowhere.

This bus lane ain't going nowhere. Adding more tracks to the subway goes nowhere. They want more highways. They don't want to do like that. They want more highways. They want more cars, right? So that reduces. So, and that's the thing.

I think if there wasn't money, because in Canada, we don't have that. We don't have corporate corporations can't give money. If they weren't in the pockets, if the politicians weren't in their pocket, it might be a little bit more fair as what you is. Because you could argue that people can't compete with a corporation. Yeah, yeah.

And then when you have them big, big corporations, they have everybody in their pocket. Like they donate equally both sides. Both sides. So they just hedging their bets. Sometimes they got some heat. You know what I mean? I'm getting that's why you got to get that money up.

Fellas, yo, I got to run. Yeah, let's do it. You want to do one after an idiot? We'll do one asking an idiot, man. We had a great conversation today, man. But dude, I like the, I like the music, man. That's the first time I ever heard the music. Thank you.

Yeah. The music. So what do we feel about me trying to do free? No, you're hitting on the freestyle still? I feel like. I didn't, I didn't come with the energy. That's all it was. That's all it was.

Music is great. I think you wanted it to sit on the bar. Sometimes barheads do that. You know what I mean? And it's like you just want people to listen to them and not pay any attention to the music. But the music, the musicality is what drives us. You know what I'm saying? It's like there's something outside of it.

All right. I'm working on five minutes. Five minutes. I want to hear the five minutes. I want to hear more music. If you rap like that in these places you want to freestyle, you'll be fine. Just do the written shit. You did written just now.

You just... No, yeah, I'm only gonna do it. Yeah, off the top stuff. I gotta run, fellas. All right, we gotta be out. Listen, Humble to Poet. How to Be Loved is out right now. Make sure you grab that.

Always a pleasure talking to my guy, humble, man. Won't give me your Instagrams and Twitter is humble? At Humble the Poet. And also, it's an audio. Yes. I do a really good job of having an audio because I am... You're a good talker. I'm a recording artist.

Exactly. I love audiobooks. Yeah, the audio did really well. It's doing really well. I think, you know, that's the future. Word. Get that. And he's talking on the audio, not freestyling.

He's speaking. Neither. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast,

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