The Brilliant Idiots - Costly Conversations

Episode Date: October 19, 2022

This week your favorite brilliant idiots Charlamagne and Andrew are back and lets just say neither one held back when it came to discussing the self sabotage Kanye is laying out for himself with his r...ecent comments. In fact, Charlamagne gives an exclusive about a conversation he had with Mr. West himself! During the episode, they also get another perspective of how hurtful Kanye comments are from Chris Morrow who happens to be Jewish. Moreover, they finish up the episode with some “Ask an Idiot” questions. ********************************************************** Check out Andrew Schulz www.theandrewschulz.com Stream Charlamagne "Hell of a Week" on Paramount+ Check out all the podcast on Charlamagne's "Black Effect Network" www.blackeffect.com/ Check Out "Summer Of 85" on Audible www.audible.com/pd/Summer-of-85-A…areTest=TestShare Empty Thoughts Podcast www.youtube.com/channel/UC-zRsExS…b9Cekdug/featured podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/empt…ow/id1622292632 Empty Thoughts IG/Tik Tok www.instagram.com/emptythoughtsshow/ www.tiktok.com/discover/empty-thought-show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I love the premise of this show. Smart people talking about dumb shit. I think it's dumb people talking about smart shit. Oh, we go where we're not supposed to go, baby. Yep, Shalamaine the God. Andrew Shultz. We are the brilliant idiots podcast. And this week's episode is brought to you by Squarespace
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Starting point is 00:00:42 Now let's start the show. Happy to be here, man. What's happening, Shouchi? What did I miss? No, you didn't miss anything. I just didn't know if I felt the, I believed the energy. I believe you're happy to be here, but I think there are other things that are bothering you. That's what I sent.
Starting point is 00:01:02 I have nothing. Oh, you know, my neck, because I slept wrong. Oh, really? So yesterday I was doing the, what's that shit called? The theragon?
Starting point is 00:01:08 Yeah. I was doing that shit all day yesterday after I worked out and then my wife has this other thing where they put like, it's like they put these pads on you and it's like electric shocks. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Oh, that shit feels so good. But my neck still like got a crook. Fucked up. And then I got to go, I got a colonoscopy consultation today. Oh, sick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:26 How are you doing it? I feel good. I just, you know, I'm ready to go get it done Colin Osprey over with. That's the crazy thing. I don't know, maybe we've spoken about this, but like the second you get enough money
Starting point is 00:01:36 to stop worrying about money, your body starts falling apart. There's never not something to worry about. Like, I know there's young people listening to this right now. They're like, oh, I'm going to get enough money and then nothing matters. No, that's not true. You get that money. No.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Your balls, you've got to get checked for cancer, your asshole for fucking cancer. You're worried about your lungs, your skin, everything. That's why they say health is wealth. Health is well. How much money you got? If you're not healthy and you can't enjoy it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:00 God bless Steve Jobs. It was like... Yeah, he was stubborn, huh? What happened? He refused to do chemo or anything like that. I didn't know what it was. Natural. Oh.
Starting point is 00:02:10 He tried to do like natural remedies. Nah, not with that kind of money. With that kind of money, I need... Matter of fact, I'm trying everything. Everything. Everything. Everything. Everything.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Everything. Everything. Maybe some chemo, but then I'm going to still do the... I'm going to like Chernobyl. Yes. I'm going to try some like... Washrooms right out the ground in Chernobyl. Well, I wish you.
Starting point is 00:02:28 If you got access to those kind of resources, man, you should have access to the best medical care on the planet. Like, who got the highest rates of curing this shit? Yeah. That's why I need to be. Yeah. You know? So other than that, I feel great.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Well, good. So, uh... We missed the episode last week. Yeah. Because of technical difficulty. You recorded one. You was in Atlanta, all right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Yeah. Shooting a movie? Yes. Can you say what movie? Yeah, it's called Underdogs. Oh, that's the one with Snoop. It's one with Snoop. It's basically like, uh, bad news bears, but for Pee We League football.
Starting point is 00:02:57 And it's the Kenya Bears production. Kenya Bear's production, man. And yeah, so it's great, man. You got a big role in this one, though. This one's cool. This one's cool. It's bigger. It's bigger.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's fun. So basically, Snoop is the coach of the bad news bear team, the underdogs. And I'm the coach of, like, the boozy team. Oh, got you, got you got you got. So I just get to be an asshole. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Yeah. Sometimes they take it too far, bro. What do you mean in the script? Yeah. It's the best, it's the script. Not the script. Not the script. Like, their suggestions.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Like I'm supposed to be like an asshole You know like kind of conservative guy And maybe trying to like throw pins on me and shit like that What about a Blue Lives Matter pin? I'd be like, Aye, Aye, aye, aye, aye, aye. It's a movie.
Starting point is 00:03:40 It's a movie, man. Liking the cops doesn't make you a villain. No, that's what I'm saying. I guess nowadays it's like a, I don't know, it's like, I don't want to say, I don't want to say stereotyping, but yeah, it is stereotyping. Talking about stereotyping. That's why I hope to you.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Yeezies don't become a symbol of hate. Ooh. Woo! That's a hot. I hope they don't. You use that one yet? You use that one yet? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:13 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Anyway, that's a fire bar. So wait, are the Yeezy's the new MAGA hat? I don't think they're the MAGA hat. What are they?
Starting point is 00:04:23 You know why they're not the MAGA hat? Because too many people like them. Yo, a lot people like that MAGA hat, bro. It's not a diverse audience, though. You know what I'm saying? Like a diverse group of people like Yeeisies. Like, you could walk in the room and the Asian kid might have Yeasies on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Jewish kid might have EZid on. The kid from Scotland might have EZ on. The black kid might have EZis on. You know what I'm saying? Like, no, I hear that. And they vary. Like, when I pick my daughter up from high school, all of the kids are wearing something and they're comfy.
Starting point is 00:04:50 They're comfy. That's the point. It's hard to hate Jews and shoes that are comfy. Oh. You know what I mean? What do you mean? What do you mean? What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:04:58 They're comfortable what you just say. Right, right. And then everybody, like, Like, now I'll buy some crocs. And I'm like, now crocs go. They probably do, but they don't look like. Like, the Russell was making crocs fly. I'm not going to fly.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Yeah, crocs are fine. The Russell will be wearing crocs and they be looking high, but I just can't see myself with no crocs. Yeezies are still like for like the hip-hop dad. The old head, that's 40-something and you're a father, you know what I'm saying? But you still got the Yeezys on. They're comfortable. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:23 But you pull up to your kids school, the kids are like, oh, you got the Yeasies on, you know what I mean? Yeah. I like the slides. Do you have an obligation? to the people that buy your shit to not become like a racist and anti-Semite? Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Because if I got tons of pictures with Yeezy shit on, like what if some of like my favorite pictures that I got up around my house and events I've been to, I got Yeezys on, and now I got to crop my feet out the pictures so I don't look like a Nazi.
Starting point is 00:05:46 It's strange, right? Because it's like, just from a straight business perspective. It's just terrible business. Yeah. What did Michael Jordan say back in the day? He said conservatives are better at everything. Oh, he didn't say that.
Starting point is 00:05:57 He said conservatives buy shoes too or Republican buy shoes to it. He said, I'm not a liberal cuck. That's what he said? Didn't he say that? Didn't he say, what do I look like a liberal cuckold? He did for real. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:07 I don't believe. I don't know who am I. Who am I? I definitely know he said the thing about the sneakers. I don't know about the liberal cuck shit. No, he didn't say that. Oh. Yeah, this guy.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Yeah, I don't know about the liberal cuck shit. But yeah, man, I mean, it's crazy, right? We got to add wild croats to Amj. That'd be really funny. Wild crows to put the memes up. By the way, these kids will believe them. They will, in Rpy. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:06:28 But go on. You were saying? No, I was just saying, like, it was interesting, right? Because, you know, first of all, I'm already on record saying Kanye West is the Nazi. You know what I'm saying? My name for him is KK. Kanye. If you attack black people and Jewish people in the same week, you're not. Whoa. Isn't that the pure definition of Naziism?
Starting point is 00:06:49 Dude, Chris's laptop flew off of this pecker, dude. The second you said that. Isn't that the pure definition of Nazism? What, if you hate Jews and black people and Jewishism. people in the same week. Yeah, yeah. He's echoing a lot of Nazi sentiments, for sure. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:04 I just don't, my only thing with Kanye is I don't think he's ever had an original thought in his life. He's not a free thinker at all. No, I think he's a genuinely, he's just like a megaphone. And he just puts the megaphone up to whoever's around him and then just repeats it. He is, in his essence, a producer. Kanye doesn't make all the sounds. He hears sounds that were already on hit records and then applies them to a record that he makes a hit.
Starting point is 00:07:28 But he's not creating all these from scratch. Now, I'm not going to go that far with the music. What I'm saying is in his life, he's very used to grabbing things from other people that he thinks sounds good, grabbing styles from other people, and then putting them out. Like, so it's not. He's notorious for having ghost riders. We know this. He admits it in a drink chip.
Starting point is 00:07:47 He doesn't shy away from it. But that's what he is in his essence. As a producer, he goes out there, he sees what works, and then he puts it into something. And then I think his greatest genius is convincing people he's a genius when I don't think he's one at all. So. Musically, I'll give it to him. And we just talked about how comfortable the shoes were. So, I mean, you know, I, it's something to designing some comfort.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Is he making the foam? I don't know. He put it like this. He was smart enough to pick the technology. No, I think he's, he has taste. Yeah. Right? Except, you know, with his belief systems.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But in terms of, like, aesthetic, it's 100% you can't deny that he has taste with music. He has taste with clothing, right? So. Other than that, he's a terrible human. And you know what bothers me the most about. Or sick. The stuff that he does.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Two things can be true. Because there's a lot of people out here who deal with mental illness that don't act like that. And by the way, is that going to be every bigot's excuse now? No. Is that going to be white supremacist's excuse now? I've heard this argument. I've heard this argument. And what I will say is this is that when you're mentally ill, you're more willing to go down a rabbit hole without rejecting anything.
Starting point is 00:08:50 And it's like, I come from a family that has a lot of mental illness. Like my mom was manic depressive. I remember one year she was having a manic episode. and she tried to stop the deer from eating everybody's flowers by just, she created this idea that we should just leave all of our garbage out on the street. And then she started putting up signs around the neighborhood. Let's just take our garbage. Don't put tops on a garbage.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Leave it out on the street. The deers will eat the garbage. Then they won't eat enough of our flowers. And you couldn't tell her that. That's like a brilliant idea. Right? Wait, wait, wait. But then you go, oh, wait a minute, not all garbage is food.
Starting point is 00:09:25 And dears are going to be taking fucking diaper. and shit and the whole neighbor is going to smell horrible and pelicans are going to come and picking things ever and the whole neighborhood look hard. But when you're manic, you don't think of what's bad. You just go down a line. So what my estimation is since Kanye's never had a unique smart thought in his life,
Starting point is 00:09:45 what I think is he's just listening to what other people say and going, ooh, that sounds provoking megaphone. How are you a free thinking when all you're doing is repeating white supremacist's talking points? Yes. And then repeating everything, we've heard every black Israelite say.
Starting point is 00:09:57 since we've been a lot. You know what I mean? Like how was this person, the person y'all call a free thinker? I hate the fact that I know Kanye does not believe the things that he's saying. Yes. And you know how I know Kanye doesn't believe
Starting point is 00:10:09 the things he's saying? Because we all hear Kanye behind the scenes. And we've had conversations with Kanye behind the scenes. And he does not believe any of this stuff that he's saying. Kanye does the same play every single time. Pisses off black people
Starting point is 00:10:23 in his never-ending search for white validation. And his never-ending search for white validation and wanting to be accepted by white people, he finds a way to shit on black people. He did that with the All Lives Matter shirts at the Paris fashion show. So then he gets backlash from black people. So what does he do?
Starting point is 00:10:40 Okay, let me say something super pro-black. I ride for my people. I'm Moses. I'm taking you out of this stupid shit. You know what I'm saying? All of this dumb shit. So he gets online, says the thing about Jewish people,
Starting point is 00:10:51 you know, the whole DefCon, three thing, because he knows that's going to rile a certain group of people on social media. up. And all of a sudden, just like that, they forget about, oh, he just shitted on black people last week. He was just super anti-black last week. Oh, now he's going anti-Semitic. Well, if I believe some of the things that he's saying, now I'm a ride with him. Think about how he went anti-Semitic. He went anti-Semitic through the guise of why do they own all of our shit? Why do they own? But what's interesting about is he's trying to get the people he's pushed away, Blackfield
Starting point is 00:11:22 back on his side by making another enemy. Now, do you know who's used this in the past? I don't No, Chris, you have any ideas? A couple of people in Germany. Yeah, I heard of them. What's his name? I don't know. Yeah, I heard of them. The other end words.
Starting point is 00:11:35 The one with the mustache? The Nazis. Yeah, exactly. And I told y'all this three weeks ago. This guy, and I say it all the time, but whenever I say, people say, I'm a hater, he seeks white validation. He shits on black people in his never-ending search for white validation. Then when black people get mad at him, he becomes super pro-black.
Starting point is 00:11:57 And he just repeats the process. over and over and over again. He's going to shit on you again. By the way, he shitted on you and drink champs interview, and he says things like, what do black people own? Just the word nigger and braids? It's like, yo, you're shitting on our achievements.
Starting point is 00:12:11 You're shitting on yourself. You know what I'm saying? You're sitting there as a black owner saying that black people don't own anything. But you know, I don't know for a fact. My assumption that is frustration, all of this seems like it's manifesting from like a lack of control.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Man, this is coming from he don't have Kim no more. Well, I actually don't think. He's projecting. Well, but that's a control issue too. This is all, he's going through pain. He's hurt. He's projecting that pain and that hurt. Can I, can I?
Starting point is 00:12:37 That's all this is about. You might be right, but my, my assumption is that Kanye sees himself as this great creator, right? And he battles between two things. One, wanting money. And in order for him to get money, he has to sell his freedom, right? Does he? with with he can't do what he wanted adidas that's his frustration what is he not doing i should be able to pick all these people i should be able to pick who we give a shoe to i should be able to do this but
Starting point is 00:13:06 he can't right he can't even tell them not to make shoes that look like fake easy i thought he had his whole staff that he just fired he just fired his whole easy it's different it's different easy is a clothing brand that he owns but any sneaker that's easy comes out through adidas and they on that he gets a royalty on it he gets a lot of money but he just gets it he created sure but they can also take the models and then make knockoff versions of it through Adidas and he can't do shit about it and he knows it and I think his frustration is every time he takes a deal because he wants the money. He doesn't want to put his own money up because when he did that he lost like fucking $50 million for the fashion shit. So now he's always like just give me the money and then I'll
Starting point is 00:13:43 make it. Even when he's talking about Arnaud, he's like, Arnaud is supposed to give me my stores. Arnault is supposed to why you need a daddy all the time? Yeah, why did the white man always got to give you something? Why you need it? And then you frustrated when somebody gives it to you and they have stipulations with the gift. Nobody's going to give you all that money without rules. If you go back and you watch that old interview we did with Kanye on Breakfast Club when I'm coming at him, I'm literally saying to him, you're Kanye West. Why do you always got to beg these white people and these corporations for something?
Starting point is 00:14:11 And he literally bays. But then he'll get on a platform now and call everybody else to slaves. It's actually the same company. It's actually slavery today. But you do know that. You do know that slavery. slaves in the 1800 didn't have a choice. You don't have to be in this industry.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Boy, this is my choice. But you got freedom, though. You can un-shack with your own chains and go work at Walmart. No, but he has freedom. You talk about how happy you are when you're with your daughter and you with your fiancé. That's your freedom right there. You don't need none of that money. You don't need the level of paying to Louis Vuitton and that.
Starting point is 00:14:44 That's your freedom. Your kids, you don't need fashion. That's what I said last night. You know what I mean? He had that song called New Slaves and he said, are you a leader or a follower, a dick or a swallower. I think he's all the above.
Starting point is 00:14:57 He's literally a black skinned head. I think he's not to it. He lived up to it. Yes, but I think he's all the above. I think Kanye is a leader, a follower, a dick, and a swallower. I think he's all four of them at once. And yo, I'm not going to lie, it is very silly for anybody. By the way, everybody's using them right now.
Starting point is 00:15:19 You know what I mean? Because they know it's instant clicks. They know it's instant. That would wild corny of Cuomo, too. especially after. No, it wasn't cornea. Cuomo, Cuomo got a new network.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Oh, that's not CNN? No. What is it? News 1 or some shit like that. Cuomo just launched a new show. Cuomo did exactly what he was supposed to do. Yeah, but it's weird because if you think somebody's actually
Starting point is 00:15:38 suffering from mental illness, then you're taking advantage of them. Is it not, is everybody not? Well, because of you. What do you mean? Because you mean? You made everybody mentally ill, bro.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Before that, they was just having a bad day. Now that all my anxiety is fucking causing. It's real, though. Everybody got to, language and they know what they're dealing with now. But Chris Cuomo did what he was supposed to do. I'm going to use this guy to bring interest to my show.
Starting point is 00:16:00 That seems selfish. It is. But everything Kanye is doing is selfish too because Kanye's going on these platforms and using them. Everybody's using each other. Yeah. Everybody's using each other. Honestly, before the drink champs, I was like, okay, I get it.
Starting point is 00:16:12 This might be interesting. After drink champs, I was like, oh, this guy's off. And, yeah, I wouldn't put him on. What do you mean he's off? Yeah. He's been, what have y'all been watching? Like right now all I'm seeing is a man that is moving like he don't have much time left. He's moving like he doesn't plan to be with us that much longer.
Starting point is 00:16:33 That's what I see. And I've been seeing this for a while. How are y'all just seeing this after the drink champs interview? What did he say in the drink champs interview that he hasn't said a million other places, which is why I told Norie last week. Jewish media not to do the interview. I think that's what he said. What?
Starting point is 00:16:48 He didn't say anything about the Jewish media. He been saying that. That's old rhetoric. But from him? Yes. I just had Ice Cube started the job and I'm going to, I'm going to finish it. He's talking, what job? What job?
Starting point is 00:17:02 What job? Like, what is going on? And you got people piling it on the fight like, yeah, let's go. I'm like, where are y'all going? Yeah, yeah. What are y'all doing? Well, I think there is something interesting about this. And it would be actually great of Chris, you could speak on this a little bit because you were raised in it.
Starting point is 00:17:20 And a lot of people don't understand this. So it, because Jews are like two percent of the population. Are Jewish, my, my, Jewish representation. I know about this. So when as he walks in the frame,
Starting point is 00:17:29 people say, oh, that's who controls everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Here, oh, yeah. So like, okay,
Starting point is 00:17:36 so I think a lot of things that are going on right now, right? There's a lot of people that are surprised at why what Kanye says is so offensive and so dangerous, right?
Starting point is 00:17:49 And if you're asking a bunch of friends, if you have your Jewish friends, they're like, yo, this is one of the most vile things that's ever been said. I'm so fucking a friend and I'm so angry, right? You ask some white or black friends, they go, man, that Black Lives Matter shirt was stupid. What a fucking idiot. And the George Floyd shit was dumb.
Starting point is 00:18:07 And they don't understand how dangerous the Jewish rhetoric is. Because the Holocaust started because of the rhetoric. Well, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. It's a little different. So within the Jewish community, you should speak to this, is there is like a paranoia about, this happening again. And it is baked into the culture. You're probably taught this
Starting point is 00:18:26 from like a young age, right? Very true. And, you know, I think historically when you look at the moments when Jews are in the most danger, and I'm speaking in the European Jewish tradition, right? It's when they're in countries where there's economic turmoil.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Yes, recession is coming. A recession is coming. People are losing money and they start looking around whose fault is this. And not to mention hate crimes against Jewish people have risen over the past few years. They have. They have.
Starting point is 00:18:54 No. So, yeah, I mean, there's, there's a long history of this going back hundreds of years in Europe. I mean, frankly, the example that he used with the Catholic divorce lawyers is something I've never heard in my life. Yeah, me neither. That's completely insane. Yeah. Like, that's why I was insulting because y'all were getting money before that. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:19:12 I thought it was. I thought it was a lawyer money? I thought it was the banking industry. I mean, there's, there's many different industries. But they had the same reaction. I was like, do you think we need. needed Catholic lawyers to give a quick horse job. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:24 We're getting paid a long time before this. But so his whole theory was... He doesn't read, by the way. Oh, no, of course, of course. So somebody whispered that in his ear. But I want you to go on, on, this is very important to understanding why there's such a fractured response to this. Jews are furious and rightfully so, because they've been taught about how easy it is for
Starting point is 00:19:46 an inquisition or the Holocaust to happen. And this is the exact type of rhetoric. You've been taught this since you're a kid. Non-Jews don't get taught this. We don't get taught this at all. And Jews often aren't sharing this with non-Jews. So non-Jews are looking at this thing, many non-Jews, and they're looking at the stereotypes that are deemed offensive for Jews,
Starting point is 00:20:11 as you guys control the media, you own the banks, you guys are all lawyers and doctors. And there's a lot of non-Jews that look at those stereotypes and they go, well, shit, I wish people thought my people were doctors and lawyers. Sounds aspirational. I wish people thought, I wish, like, I can imagine, I can imagine a black dude walking down the street and a white person sees him and gets nervous. And he goes, I think these Jews really complain about owning the banks. I really wish that when people saw me, that's what they saw, not somebody who is a threat.
Starting point is 00:20:39 So I see the reaction from non-Jews going, these ain't bad. We got bad stereotypes. But that's when you got to have a conversation. And when you have the conversation, it's a simple understanding. like you understand now why those things are considered stereotypes. That's what happened to me a few years ago when I said the same thing. I was like, y'all, I want us to have that kind of power because we can't even get the people who kill us fired. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:00 And I didn't realize why that was offensive at the time until I sat down and had a conversation. And just to make it clear why it's offensive them or more scary, I would imagine, is once people start believing the rhetoric of they control, now we have a they. Did you let the Jewish man talk? I'm just trying to... You got it. I mean, that's... It's better coming from him. I know, I understand it.
Starting point is 00:21:25 It's very accurate what you're saying. And, you know, I'll take it even a step further. You know, I was talking about... Sorry to speak over you now, but I just wanted to be very clear from someone who isn't Jewish. But I think I understand because I have a lot of Jewish friends. So I can speak to the people who aren't Jewish and why they might be confused about why these things are offensive. Yeah. And to take it even further, I mean, I think I was talking to my wife about...
Starting point is 00:21:48 about this last night. I have to remember, most people in America have never met a Jew. Right? Like, I live in New York City. I grew up in Philadelphia, Jews were everywhere.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Jews are under 2% of the population. I thought it was like 0.2% globally. I mean, oh yeah, globally. But in the world, I mean, did you ever meet a Jew growing up? That you were aware of, right?
Starting point is 00:22:09 Whereas you probably couldn't turn around without bumping it. I didn't know that there were non-Jews. Right, exactly. I swear to God. I asked my father. I asked my father when I was younger. I was like, why are we not Jewish?
Starting point is 00:22:24 Right. And he goes, well, yeah, actually, Andrew, you know, most people actually aren't Jewish. And I go, I don't think that's right. Because in my school, it was me, Kwameh, Pamford, and Alexis Perez. We were the three kids who weren't Jewish. And it was just like, what is going on?
Starting point is 00:22:40 But for most people, they have never met a Jew. they only hear about Jews through either music, movies, stereotypes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's just, you could look at it in a lot of ways, like, with black people, where there's a lot of white people that do not have a black friend. They don't know black people. The only experience they have with black people is through media. And what if they're only being portrayed in a few different ways in media?
Starting point is 00:23:03 That's dangerous. Well, you know what's crazy about what you said, being that I'm a person who reads, unlike Mr. West. Well, he's read one book, right? I have no idea. Mind comps. You don't think that he's. Went through that a few times.
Starting point is 00:23:16 But it's like, yo, my first introduction to reading about Jewish people was the Holocaust. Yes. So I'm reading about this horrendous thing that happened to this large amount of people by this psychopath named Hitler who wanted to create a superior race. That's how I was introduced to it. Right. So, you know, everything else came later. Yes. You know?
Starting point is 00:23:34 Yeah. Well, I mean, I think even putting it all on Hitler gets dangerous because there's a long history of killing Jews, frankly, in Europe, going way back before Hitler. And again, and I think this is what Kanye was trying to say with the whole... Don't even be Kanye's translator. I would not let you be the Yeh Whisperer. You would not translate for Kanye. Well, outside of Kanye, there's basically there's this a theory that's floated around Europe for a thousand years about usury,
Starting point is 00:24:01 which was the idea that the Jews were the ones lending money because Christians weren't allowed to lend money during the Middle Ages. Well, it was just... For interest. They weren't allowed to charge interest. Charge interest. Yeah. And I think in Islam, it's the same.
Starting point is 00:24:13 to this day. Right. So Jews kind of by default became the lenders, which kind of gave rise to this idea that Jews were controlling various economies. And certainly there were powerful Jews. The Rothschild family is like one of the historically the most. That's real. That's not a conspiracy. I mean, there are many conspiracies around around them, but they did start a banking conglomerate and Europe. Absolutely. But throughout the centuries, like that's become, you know, there are two big Jewish stereotypes. One is Jews killed Christ, which you would think would have. mean much to people, but somehow it becomes serious and it's used as an excuse to attack Jews. And the other ones is that Jews control of various economies.
Starting point is 00:24:52 So it is true, like when, especially like I said, in a time like this, when interest rates are going up and people are losing jobs and there's a lot of anxiety around money, this is not the time you want to start talking about Jews are running everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because people are looking for a boogeyman and Jews become. And if it's not. And if it's not adults, because maybe adults know a little bit better how to behave, it's the young kids that are in middle school, elementary school, and high school that are hearing this information. And all of a sudden, now there's one Jewish kid in the class, right? And all of a sudden, that Jewish kid is the reason why your parents no longer have a job.
Starting point is 00:25:31 You're remixing bigotry for a whole new generation. You know what I'm saying? And we don't need a LeBron James version of the Bible where Jesus Christ. You know what I'm saying? Jesus Christ gets taken out. Yeah, yeah. By Jewish people. That's the last thing we need right now.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Yeah, so, I mean, look, he's getting pushed back. I mean, you know, part of me, though, is, you know, you should have dropped him when he was, you know, cozying up with Trump. That's when I dropped him. You know, I think it would be corny for me to be critical of him now because I watched my hands of him a long time ago. But is it possible?
Starting point is 00:26:05 Sorry, go, go. No, no, no. I was going to say some stuff, but I don't want to say it. Go ahead. Well, I mean, you know, if you want to really talk about a lot of anti-Semitic rhetoric, Connie wasn't the only one this week. You know, Trump said some very inflammatory stuff too. You know, the Trump thing was interested, too, because I didn't really understand what
Starting point is 00:26:21 that was about. He basically said that, uh, Jewish Americans aren't, basically aren't being good to Israel, right? They don't respect Israel like that. Well, he's saying he's good to Israel and because they don't respect him. There was a, somebody on Twitter, I can't get them credit because I forget the name, but basically said, like it was kind of like a mafia approach, like, hey, this is a nice religion you got here. It'd be a shame if somebody messed it up. And the kind of the talk was like, I'm supporting Israel. You should support me because I'm supporting Israel. And if you don't support me, I can't promise what's going to happen after this. So that in tandem with Kanye is kind of like,
Starting point is 00:26:59 all right. It's got everybody on edge. And by the way, you know, when we talk about history, every single community has a form of PTSD in regards to history. You know what I mean? People wonder why, police brutality is so triggering to black people because it goes back to the slave patrols in South Carolina and Virginia, like the original police forces were actual slave patrols that were sent out to go capture slaves, right? So it's just like all of us have different levels of PTSD and we don't want history to repeat itself. And anything that triggers that inside of us makes everybody go off. And rightfully so. I think it's just important that we explain those things, right? Because once you understand the context for going,
Starting point is 00:27:42 off, it seems way more digestible. Like, hopefully there are even people listening right now that are going, oh, now it makes way more sense why the Jews get so sensitive and triggered when you talk about them owning the banks because that's exactly what Hitler was saying before the Holocaust. Yes. That's what, you know, the Spanish were saying before the Inquisition. Yes. You know, you can look throughout history and you can see these same things being said.
Starting point is 00:28:04 So once you know that, it goes from, oh, that's a compliment to, oh, that's terrified. That's phase one. It's that type of rhetoric that eventually led to things like the whole. It was literally runaway inflation in Germany post-war War War War. Yeah. We have runaway inflation now. It was like runaway inflation. Literally the exact same template.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Like it's not a... I mean, inflation was a little crazier. Yeah, but we're like 1934 Germany right now. Like we're in the same space. You know, like... I wouldn't compare... I understand why you're comparing them. I wouldn't compare because, you know, what was the least?
Starting point is 00:28:40 nations or whatever it was imposed like incredibly crippling economic sanctions on Germany after World War I deserved. Stop trying to take over the fucking world. Right. But that creates this out of control inflation and then they need to blame it on somebody. It can't be your fault for trying to fucking invade everybody. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:02 The socialist Jews. So it's, you know, it's real. That's why Bernie Sanders scared the shit out of people. Why? Because he's a socialist. And a chill. Which is also why I knew he was never going to get elected. Not in that.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's interesting, man. And, you know, man, I was sitting back even thinking, because what you just said is very true about why all of these conversations are so fractured, right? Because some people don't understand why the things Kanye says are anti-Semitic. But then some people don't understand why the white lies matter phrase is defensive of the black people. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:32 And people don't understand why Norrie decided to pull the interview because of what he said about, you know, George Floyd. Yep. Right? And it's so weird to me that people are upset with Norrie because Norrie decided, God forbid somebody apologized, that they feel like they hurt somebody. I think, I think the- Like, God forbid. You can't even apologize.
Starting point is 00:29:53 If you put something out and you unintentionally hurt somebody, why wouldn't you apologize? Yeah, I think the only issue I had with the interview, obviously the rhetoric I have the issue. But the issue I had the interview was more like, if you know that he's mentally ill, like kind of like feeding him drinks and weed, that to me felt a little wrong.
Starting point is 00:30:14 I was like, what's going on right now? But here's the thing. One thing we know about the good brother, Noree, DJ EFN, they're going to be who they are. So when you go sit down with them, you know what it is. You know what it is.
Starting point is 00:30:28 It's drink champs. You're going to drink. You're going to smoke. They're going to laugh. They're going to be married. That's why I told Noree last week, now is not the time to have Kanye. There are people that said no to the interview.
Starting point is 00:30:39 We know people who said no. We're people that didn't put it out. The shop didn't put it out on HBO. Fox News edited the anti-Semitic comments and somebody from Fox said, fuck that. Right. We leaked that whole thing. Oh, they leaked it? Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Oh, shit. Yes. Fox is trying to find the leak now. But my thing is this a thing. He worked for the Golden State Warriors. Same person that leaked Ramon Jay. But it's like, you really think you're going to go to a news network. Say some shit that clearly. clearly is offending people that work there.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Yeah. And you think they're not going to leak it? Oh, no, they're running it. Please. But imagine being a broke Jew and everybody tells you how Jews run the banks and they run the world. And you're like, well, call me. That's like after 9-11, I had a cab driver who's like, no, I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:31:25 They told all the Jews. To get out the building. I was like, well, who fucking didn't call me? Yeah. Why did I get the email? That goes straight to voicemail? Like, where am I fucking, like, I could have been up there. No, I do agree.
Starting point is 00:31:37 We need more conversations, man, because there's a lot of misunderstandings happening, man. And the thing that bothers me the most, the person that's spark in this conversation doesn't even give a fuck about what he's talking about. No, he believes none of this. This is just to get people off his ass. Kanye cares about Kanye. That's it. And it don't even work. And he tells you this.
Starting point is 00:31:55 He knows who's my favorite person in the world, me. Yo, he says in the drink champs, and if you almost send you to clip tail and he goes, if y'all didn't want me to wear the white lives matter shirt, y'all should have supported me when Kim kidnapped my kid. By the way, you already fuck with me so much. You already black-mirate me. You already made everybody think I'm crazy. You already took my family away. You already separated all my friends. I don't got no celebrity friends.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Because when I was on TV, on Instagram saying, I don't know where my child is. And the Kardashians kidnapped my daughter in public. And I didn't have the address to my child. None of these niggas that want to say something now. Travis gave me the address. But as far as, Meek Mills, Puff Daddy, whoever.
Starting point is 00:32:39 None of these niggas. All you fake hard niggas, fuck you. Wait, hold on. All you fake hard niggas, fuck you know what I'm saying? I'll get fuck because you can't shoot nobody anyway. And the reason why you got to do the deal, you fucking fed, fucking fed, fucking fias. What the fuck does that I got to do with anything? This idea?
Starting point is 00:32:56 Oh, dude, it's so funny. Like he's such, he's a victim in everything. Kid kid, kidnap my kids. Classic narcissism, of course, of course. Self pity, victimization. I'm the victim. I called Dove Charnie. to make the t-shirts.
Starting point is 00:33:07 And then he said he didn't want to make him when he heard the rhetoric. It's like, he's Jewish. No, no, no, stop, stop. Make your own fucking t-shirts. Buy a factory. You're a billionaire. You're the richest black man in America.
Starting point is 00:33:19 You can't get a print on a t-shirt. He is not the rich of black men. I'm saying he's saying he is. Yes. Robert Smith is the richest black man. Right. So, but I guess what I'm trying to say is like everything is... Is it cheaper or does he want the cosign?
Starting point is 00:33:28 That's the question. Ah. I just think he doesn't want to do anything. I think he doesn't want to take responsibility for anything. I think he literally just wants to be like, hey here's this thing you guys go do it you guys go figure it out i'm not going to do the hard shit and he's convinced people that that works and it has you've seen these businesses get huge success because of his ideas it's baffling to me businesses pop the hood who are the black
Starting point is 00:33:52 people that work for con you was ooh are you talking all of this black this black this yeah what's your what's your team look like i mean wasn't look at my black effect fully black staff right charlie that's i'm just saying tell the truth bro. You got only Mexicans working at fucking black. Dude just fucked up, bro. You go into a black event. I thought it was a Chapo-Ley.
Starting point is 00:34:13 This because Taylor is short. You think she's a Mexican? She's part Mexican. Taylor is part Mexican? But even me and Cab's company at SBH productions, ran by a black woman. You know what I mean? Our creators of black, like all these people that's talking
Starting point is 00:34:27 all of this black shit, black business, what is under your hood, bro? Let me see. Let me see. I can show my staffs at my different places of the business. Come to the TV. show 80% black and brown. Too much.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Dude, it was a lot, dude. It was a lot. But it's noticeable, right? I know. As soon as you walk in, like, what the hell? This is black old thing, Collegreen. Your show is black. Black and brown, yes.
Starting point is 00:34:52 No, no, no. Bro, when we did a prayer before it started, I was like, yeah, baby. I never done this at a TV show before. My whole point is, my prayer? I don't want to hear all of this black talk about black, this, black this, black that. We don't own this.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Because you're in a position of ownership, yay? What does your staff look like? Put your fucking money where your mouth is. I don't assume there were a lot of Jews on the staff, to be honest. I would guarantee it. Right. I would 100% guarantee it. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:35:22 I just feel like that's, you know, like he's in that world. He's in L.A. He's in New York. I think you're just going to bump up against a lot of Jews. Well, a lot of those people resign this week, I'm sure. When people don't want your money no more, when they tell you that you got such and such date to get your money out the bank it's pretty bad.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Oh, we should also clarify that. They kicked him out a month ago. Yes. I did a little snoop on that. You know why? You know why? All right, go. Because he was talking shit about the CEO
Starting point is 00:35:47 on social media. I don't know if it's only that. What else do you think it was? This is, I don't know for a fact. I think what it is, Kanye doesn't have a lot of cash compared to his like billions of wealth. Oh, now he had $140 million in that bank.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Which is not a lot compared to being a billionaire. Right. So it's like, liquid. Let me, let me just get it out. To us, that's a lot of money. To somebody who is a billionaire having 140 million in cash is not a lot of money. Okay. So what for, because in order to buy things, in order to have this extravagant lifestyle create these crazy things, you need liquid. I wonder. I wonder how many billionaires have that liquid. So what they do is, even the ones that don't, what they do is they take loans against their assets. Right. Okay. Now, his assets is the equity in his company, which is not a very safe asset because if Kanye gets canceled, the company's worth nothing. It depends. Kanye is Yeezy. If Yeezy goes, I'm stepping down and this guy is going to go.
Starting point is 00:36:51 I don't like what you're putting out there. Those slides are comfortable. So even if Kanye gets canceled, no, if Kanye gets canceled and you see me in a different color way of Yeezys that Adidas does, I'm still buying. Let me put it this way. Musk goes, I'm stepping down from Tesla. What happens to Tesla stock?
Starting point is 00:37:07 Oh, I think it might go up right now. No. We're not investing in Tesla. We're investing Elon. We're like, this is the smartest guy on the planet. He's going to figure things out. He's going to work it. I understand what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:37:19 But if I could just get this point out. The point is what I think was happening is Kanye was asking for loans against his money, which is how rich people operate. You don't pay taxes on loans. It's a great way to get cash to be able to buy things. and I think that he was over-extending himself with these loans and J.P. Morgan was like, I don't really trust this motherfucker that much. He's a pain in the goddamn ass.
Starting point is 00:37:40 And he's asking for more loans and he really has... And he's talking shit about me on social media. It was like, it's a cornucopia of things, but they were like, it's just not worth it. And they did what none of us can do, which is leave fucking Kanye. Yeah, yeah. None of us can, but they actually did the thing. I can't. We'll see. I can't leave those slides.
Starting point is 00:37:56 That's a thing. That's a thing. But Kanye, listen, and by the way, I'm not in... That's a next level accomplishment to get a thing. a bank to not want to work with you. Banks are the worst institutions on the planet when it comes to like moral efficacy. Ethicacy, is that a word? Or ethics? Ethics. Right? Like they they launder money for cartels. They have fucking terrorist money. They have rapist money, pedophiles money. Weinstein, Epstein, everybody had bank accounts with these guys. The fact that they looked at Kanye and they're like,
Starting point is 00:38:25 I can't be around this guy anymore. That is an accomplishment. By the way, that's the other thing that's sad, right? You're influencing a whole generation with your bullshit. And there's a whole generation who think that's the way to go about doing things. Yeah. But that's not. That's why when you say who's behind, somebody's in his ear right now, right? So when you say that and you talk about his financial difficulties losing money,
Starting point is 00:38:51 I think it's the Russians are in his ear. I think. This is that Jewish paranoia, bro. You know, this is that Jewish. goes too far. You know, you know, it goes too far. I got a very hot take. It's not fully baked yet. It's conspiracy theory week. Let's go. It don't matter. It's the pod. Go new code, Chris. Go. I think there are a lot of Russian assets in American media and culture right now. I think Elon Musk is one. I think Trump is one. I think Kanye is one. Why would Elon Musk be an asset to Russia if he has Starlink
Starting point is 00:39:24 open in Ukraine for free that he's losing money in so that they can thwart the Russian attack? Well, why is he trying to broker peace deals between the Ukraine and Russia? Because we've seen this before. It's called Afghanistan. It's never going to stop. So he's just doing that out of the... I think he's being realistic. We all know what's going to happen here.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Like, Ukraine does not have the military force to actually thwart a true all-in invasion from Russia. They're being supported by America right now. We're just giving them fucking billions of dollars of weapons, mind you, to like shoot down these drone strikes that Russia is doing. So he's like, how many Ukrainian and Russian lives need to die before we end up at the exact same solution because Ukraine's a fucking proxy between us and Russia. It's not even a rich.
Starting point is 00:40:05 How do we know it's even a war going on, bro? Can you do this though? How do we even know it's a war going on? How do we know that it's even happening, bro? That's true. That's a good point. How do we know the media's just not showing us images of things, bro? You're saying that Ukraine is a false flag?
Starting point is 00:40:19 I have no idea. I'm just throwing shit out there, bro. I don't care. These aren't fully baked, like I said. Listen, and to your point, though, Kanye West's last presidential independent campaign, was secretly run by GOP elites. Of course. That's a fact.
Starting point is 00:40:33 I'm just saying someone's trying to sow seeds of chaos in America right now. I just think Kanye is a natural agent of chaos. I don't think that it's even that deep with him in regards to like, now those other people you name, possibly. I don't even think it's that deep with him. I just think he's an agent of chaos on purpose because his own life is in shambles. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:53 But to be clear, America does this to other countries. I'm not inventing something out of thin air. I mean, we have a long history. Oh, this is somebody we can compromise in Iran. This is someone we can compromise in Venezuela. We can put money into this. Like, that's how this shit works. So I don't think it's crazy to think it's happening here right now.
Starting point is 00:41:12 I mean, there's a reason why there's not a single country that is an enemy of us that also has a democracy. Right. Because if they did, we would influence it in our favor. Right. Right. Like, I'm sure there are countries that would like to have a democracy, but it wouldn't be true because we would find ways to instill our leadership. Right. We're going to get our guy in there one way. That's why America's going, there are these tyrants around the world because you don't give it any other option. That's why people like Kanye is so dangerous because you have a whole bunch of people out here who don't have a democracy. They really don't have anything to believe in. You know what I mean? And so here this guy comes around with this crazy ass rhetoric and people buy into it. And they don't even know. know what they're buying into.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Yeah. Tell me, what's the mission? If you had to look at everything he did this week, what is the mission? Yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:42:04 for this to be happening, for us to be talking about. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. There is no game playing to it. And you know, but he achieved it.
Starting point is 00:42:13 He's achieving what he wants. Yeah, everybody talking about. Yeah, but this is what all of y'all going to learn, all of y'all, and I've been saying this to you all for some years,
Starting point is 00:42:22 all attention is not good attention. And eventually, you write it, you write a check that your ass can no longer cash. How are you talking about, You can no longer get those loans and shit from the bank. After a while, that shit runs out.
Starting point is 00:42:33 And right now, he's at the point where that shit is absolutely positively running out. It happens to everybody. You were kind of saying it ran out when he was wearing a MAGA hat. And then it keeps on going. Somehow he brought that shit back. I will say this. At the time, there was an article that came out this week in the Los Angeles time. It said, I think the headline was something like, is it okay to be in business with Kanye West?
Starting point is 00:42:53 How much longer will people be in business with Kanye West? And they break down all the things. like he's no longer with Def Jam no more. The gap situation, which was a billion dollar deal. Like, they decided to part ways.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Adidas has his deal under review. The bank is telling him he got to get his money out by November 21st. Who the fuck wants those problems? That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 00:43:10 That's Kanye West business partners back away. Rapper buys right with social media platform. That's the difference. Kanye West business partners backing away. You can pop all that shit you want when you still got all of those businesses
Starting point is 00:43:23 in play. That's where your money is coming from. That's where your strength is coming from. You're really going to listen to that motherfucker after he loses everything? And you don't think there's other businesses looking at this like, oh shit, they all parted with Kanye. I know if I attach
Starting point is 00:43:35 myself to him, I can get a little buzz and then I'll part ways with him too. Absolutely. That's going to keep happening. That's no way. You know why? Why do you think drink champs got hit so hard this week? Tell me why you think. Well, because they let a guy go on and spew Nazi rhetoric for three hours? After
Starting point is 00:43:50 somebody already said we're not putting this hate speech out. after a news organization edited out the comments that they didn't like. After we saw him all over Twitter saying this shit. So you knew what was going to happen. What business is going to get down with Kanye after all of this shit? In America? In America.
Starting point is 00:44:10 But the question is, what's his value internationally? I don't know. Because I don't think people in China give a fuck about this right now. Think of people in Europe. So maybe internationally he'll be able to do some things. I think what's happened with Kanye is like what happens with like only fans, girls that eventually go into porn. It's like you need to go crazier
Starting point is 00:44:27 to get the attention. Now you got to suck some dick. Exactly. It's like you could start with titties. He starts with titties. They can't show a little pussy. Caitlin did that. Caitlin did that. He can't transition. Well, he's not going to transition. I'm talking about he needs to go more extreme to get the same attention. Oh, I thought you mean to get some titty. He already got those, by the way. He got the hips.
Starting point is 00:44:47 He's going to try to eat his own ass soon. Oh, yeah. Probably on only thing. Oh, whatever that new platform is. Paula. He was trying to eat his own ass on Paula. But that's exactly what happens. It's like you go a little bit more extreme to get the same attention and he's just having to push it.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Like, Maga got the certain amount of attention. Okay, now I have to go past Maga to get this. And now you're doing the fucking Nazi rhetoric. It's like, what next? What did Taylor say? I have no idea what Taylor said. Y'all forgetting you still has a whole platform from music, though.
Starting point is 00:45:17 No, no, no. Taylor just said something that I know nobody gives a fuck about. Taylor said he just he has a whole platform for music That's what I've been saying all week I'm like when he loses all his businesses What are you gonna do rap? Don't nobody want to hear that shit Yeah
Starting point is 00:45:30 Nobody want to hear Kanye West rapping Like who wants to like seriously The kids do Yeah I don't know bro My daughter's that whole Teenage they love Kanye for some reason They love his catalog
Starting point is 00:45:44 Yeah It's old stuff She didn't go by that STEM player To hear Donda too Yeah The kids got to do too much work Yeah The kids got to do too much work.
Starting point is 00:45:51 I'm just saying I'm shocked how much traction he seems to have with teenagers right now. No, it's the shoes. It's the whole aesthetic. Yeah, but like, why do y'all? Here's the thing. This generation acts like things can't crash and burn, even though we watch things crash and burn all the time. We say this. Everything, it's
Starting point is 00:46:07 so fun when social media is going crazy and things that trend in and everybody's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then when somebody dies or something horrendous happens in them, they're like, oh man, didn't see that coming. Yeah, but look. Fair enough, but I think a lot of times...
Starting point is 00:46:21 What do you mean, look at Trump? Everything looks like is crashing and burning around him, and people are still saying, oh, shit, if he runs in 2024, he's going to win. Well, whoa, whoa, whoa, look. Here's the reason. It's because people who are either undeniably entertaining or undeniably brilliant creatives get a pass for as long as they're entertaining or brilliant at creating. I know it sounds fucked up.
Starting point is 00:46:44 How many fucking rock stars have said incredibly hateful, offensive things, and they're still touring? I think Axel Rose from Guns and Roses said the fucking N-word, like blatantly, slash his guitarist is half black. They're back out and fucking tour together. But because they are one of the greatest rock bands in history, this happens over and over and over again. And context matter. I don't even know how you said the N-word, but we're acting like Trump's situation isn't in shambles. How could he say it good?
Starting point is 00:47:10 You might have said it in the context of a rap song or in the context of how hip-hop uses it. No, no, he said it like- By the way, because it's not- He's not immigrants in there, too. Oh, I didn't know that. But he's not the first person to do that. Like, I mean, I'm done that. Like, it's mad with Matt.
Starting point is 00:47:22 No, no, no, no, no. With not the positive context. He said it in the hate way. Yes. Well, I don't listen to fucking Axel Rose. So that's the thing. Axel Rhodes is going to always have an audience. It's like Trump is going to have an audience.
Starting point is 00:47:32 But do you want people raiding your motherfucking houses in Florida? Do you want to be fucking under investigation every fucking way? Do you want to be getting a million subpoenas? Like, who wants to live like that? I know, but that's what I'm talking about. If they're entertaining, if they're entertaining people will watch, we want to, dude, This is the thing about Kanye. I don't care what you have to say about him.
Starting point is 00:47:49 He said the most hateful, disgusting things in that interview. There are also times in that interview where I laughed out loud. Yesterday when he fucking was talking. I'm being honest. Yesterday when he's talking to Chris Cuomo and Chris Cuomo keeps trying to cut him off. And then Kanye goes, can I speak? Can I say la la la la la. That shit was genuinely hysterical.
Starting point is 00:48:10 As y'all laugh, he's losing billions of dollars. Yeah. What is that to do with what I said? So my point, my point, maybe not with the consumer, the audience, with the people that's doing this. At what point do you say, why am I fucking up my life for these folks?
Starting point is 00:48:26 Yeah, they should. What I'm trying to say is there's a reason why brilliant creatives and brilliant entertainers can continue entertaining despite saying cancelable things. Yeah. It's because those are unique qualities that we, on some primal level,
Starting point is 00:48:41 desire, so as fucked up as maybe things, Trump has said every time he speaks and you see it pop up on Instagram, you're like, what does motherfucker say now? You will watch it. But that don't mean the house not on fire. That don't mean the plane's not going down. Let me clarify.
Starting point is 00:48:56 I'm not saying that the plan's going down, not going down. I'm not saying that the house is not on fire. That could also be true. But what is also true is when they speak and as long as they are entertaining, people will listen. We have an unlimited appetite for that. But that is so sad. Thank you for saying that. It's our fault.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Because we can't. It is us. Because we could stop listening, we could stop talking about, we could completely ignore him and he would go away. But because he has the ability to entertain through either making us hate him or making us laugh or making us listen to music, because he does have that unique ability, we will keep indulging. Yeah, and guess what? He will keep being dysfunctional. And eventually that dysfunction is going to cause him to be in a situation that he cannot return from. Whether it's hurting himself, whether it's death.
Starting point is 00:49:40 It's so many things that can happen while we're sitting back laughing. And that's the crazy part about the society that we live in. We will laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh until it's over. And then everybody's like, oh shit. I don't think that there, I don't want to necessarily compare the two. But, I mean, there's been incredibly offensive things said by my goat, Dr. Umar Johnson. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Incredibly offensive rhetoric has been spewed by Dr. Ruma Johnson, who's my goat? He's so entertaining. My goat is so entertaining that to me, I just push it aside. and I just indulge in the hilarity of this human being. But Dr. Gouma also absolutely positively believe the things that he's saying. He's not doing this. That's not good.
Starting point is 00:50:23 That's bad. Listen, sure, but he's not trolling. I would rather you go down. I'd rather you get whatever you get based off what you truly believe. If you're trolling and you're just doing shit and you don't even understand the consequences of your actions, you don't even, I don't think Kanye understands the ramifications of the shit that he's doing right now.
Starting point is 00:50:43 But I believe he truly believes what he's saying in that moment when he's saying. I know he doesn't. I think in the moment when he's saying it, he believes it. And then somebody tells him something right after. I know he doesn't. All right. Well, you guys. I'm talking about the person that will look at the camera and turn to you and wink.
Starting point is 00:50:57 And then look back at the camera. What are y'all talking about? Oh, then it's more dangerous. Man, the guy got on. That's even worse. The guy got on drink champs and said, this is hilarious to me. We can put his clip in two. He said, Sholoman gets on the radio and talks about.
Starting point is 00:51:13 about him wants to be with Pete. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because Pete's dick is bigger than my life. Yeah, but you know, Charlemagne. How you knew I was going to talk about Charlemagne? How you knew that? That's in my notes. Oh, yeah, he just, you know, he gonna go on air and be like, oh, man, I'm gonna paraphrase it.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Um, Kim is with Pete because he got a bigger dick. Why are you talking about another man, Dick on camera? nothing you got to deal with. You know what I'm saying? It's just like a bunch of these industry plant niggas. It's just like Samuel Jackson and Django. Now Samuel Jackson in real life.
Starting point is 00:51:50 I fuck with Samuel Jackson in real life. I'm just talking about the character in Django. It's like, man, y'all are not helping. Why would he get on the radio and say that shit? Ever Cony. Why would you be talking about another man's dick? Now, you heard me tell you this story last year, right? Which one?
Starting point is 00:52:11 Let me refresh your memory. I told you all this. I told my people notice. When me and Kanye got into an argument, he called me last November. It was tailing, though. Everybody, I told this,
Starting point is 00:52:22 because it's hilarious. I didn't want him to have my new number. He's got people calling me to get my new number. Whatever, whatever. I'm sitting outside the passport office, getting passport for my daughter. We're about to go out the country after Thanksgiving. I'm like, all right, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:52:35 He calls me. He's basically trying to get me on board to shit on somebody. he knows is my friend, Pete Davidson. Like you got it. You're not calling me just to call me. You know Pete is my friend, right? Norie told, like, Norie's like, you know, that's the Chalameda's guy.
Starting point is 00:52:50 So you're calling me, he's like, oh, you know, you, we got to save the new Maryland Monroe. You know what happened to Maryland Monroe, right? Marilyn Monroe died at drug addiction. So we got to save the new Maryland Monroe talking about Kim. I'm like, yo, you know Pete is my friend, right? So he's going on and on. And then finally he goes, my mom.
Starting point is 00:53:11 My wife is out here fucking a white boy with a 10-inch penis and you won't help me? My wife is out here fucking a white boy with a 10-ish penis and you're telling me that's your friend? But you're supposed to be culture! He's screaming on the phone. Somebody help. Entertaining. Entertaining. Hilarious.
Starting point is 00:53:29 What am I supposed to do but laugh at that? I'm going to walk out the guy. You just proved my point that you argue with me about. And by the way, I don't know if it was. I don't know if this was last year, but... I feel like Kanye right. Wait a minute. I don't know if this was last year when I did this donkey here today or earlier this year.
Starting point is 00:53:49 But I say to him, and I say to him, don't make me tell everybody why you really mad. I said that. And there was articles and people who kind of knew what I was referencing. But the reason I keep bringing up Pete's penis on the radio is because I know it fucks with you. All right. And you said that to me. Yeah. But he gets on the interview.
Starting point is 00:54:11 and that's like, he don't know where that came from. The motherfucker is a master manipulator. I mean, he's the best. And the audience don't know that. Nope. Because they don't have no interactions with him other than what they see on social media. Yeah, they just, it's fascinating his, like,
Starting point is 00:54:27 control of people. I never got it. I've always said you can look at every single podcast that we've done. We're talking about Kanye. I've always thought that his lyrics were corny. I think he's a corny guy. I think the only authentic...
Starting point is 00:54:37 No, I'm being honest. The only authentic time... time I feel from Kanye is when he's complaining about women. I think he does have you cap it right now. Go back. That's how we was in a green room and we played you his whole discography and you were going crazy. No, no, no, no. What did I specifically like about it? The production. Thank you. I remember. I've never said that his production wasn't amazing. And I think that even in the interview, you can see like moments of him like being musical. And it's like he has music in him. Some people have it. Some people have design in him. Some people have
Starting point is 00:55:07 comedy on him, but he has music in him. Absolutely. There's no question in that whatsoever. And he has comedy in him. He is funny. He is genuinely capable of make eliciting laughter on purpose. His best lines are punch lines.
Starting point is 00:55:21 He's fucking, he has punch lines. You cannot, these are these things. He's funny even when he's mad. Yo, it could be funny. When a man yelled at you, my wife is out here fucking a white boy with a 10-ish penis and you won't help me. What does that even mean?
Starting point is 00:55:35 Somebody help. Somebody help. If she can't handle the 10-inch dick, I know I can't. What is that mean? What is that even mean? You know what I'm? All I'm trying to say is like his fucking, every time he's like in a preachy song, he sounds just like he sounded in the interview.
Starting point is 00:55:50 It's like you don't even know these things. You have no control of what you're just trying to be the woke guy or trying to be whatever guy. He's authentic when he's talking about his struggles with women, bro. That's when that shit feels pure and real. I'm like, oh, this guy's rapping now. Everything else is like, oh, what do we have to do for our people? Like, shut up.
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Starting point is 00:57:57 Because we're seeing right now that free speech is not free. you know what I mean Cardi B won her lawsuit Alex Jones is in the hole for a billion dollars can you imagine that every dollar you have for the rest of your life no longer belongs to you yeah can you imagine what that would probably
Starting point is 00:58:14 like for the rest of your life every dollar that you get is not even really yours Jesus Christ so even you know even with you know that's why I think what Nori did was so honorable because nobody asked Nori
Starting point is 00:58:28 to take that interview down Norie took a step back, saw how much he traumatized the family of George Floyd, and probably, you know, thought about, damn, not only did I hurt the family, but, yo, this is liable. We just saw Alex Jones get hit the same goddamn way, you know? So I wouldn't be surprised at the family of George Floyd, you know, filed a lawsuit against Kanye. But what do we think about free speech? What is that? Because I read a good quote today. Okay, go.
Starting point is 00:59:00 This is a quote from a, there's an article I read about somebody writing about free speech. And the person said, they said, when a person calls for bigoted violence or spreads misinformation that is damaging to the public, it is justified to censor them. I mean, that's, I mean, I think that that's built into the rules of free speech. You can't yell fire in a crowded theater, right? Because if especially there's no fire, because people could be. storming out and get hurt and people can end up dying. So there's, there's risk to people. So the things you're saying are at risk to people. Now, everybody's going to be offended by something. I'm a, you know, free speech guy. There's no question. Especially with the type of comedy I do,
Starting point is 00:59:44 I want to be able to say things within the context of jokes. I think it's, you get into a tricky situation when you have guys like Kanye who are just like regurgitating shit they don't even understand or believe. It's like they're taking advantage of free speech. And those people are going to be the people who actually destroy it. Like the people who are like, research, nuance, and thoughtful about the things they say, and they might be fucked up, they might be hard to digest, but they are researched and thoughtful. I don't think that we, I don't think that we give that much pushback on them. We might disagree with them and the things that they say might frustrate us, but at least we know that they've put some time into this.
Starting point is 01:00:18 That's it. Kanye is going to be the reason why free speech doesn't exist. He doesn't read. He's not educated. He has no understanding of anything that he's saying. And this is all because he wants white validation and he seeks white validation. And no matter how much he looks in the mirror, you will never see a white man staring back at you. It's a slippery slope because the problem is when you do deep platform someone like Kanye, that then feeds into the narrative coming from the other side. This guy's trying to tell the truth and people are shutting them down, which is why like, as much as I hate Trump and disagree with everything he says, I don't think he should be kicked off Twitter. Right. I don't think you should deep platform any of these guys because it's a very
Starting point is 01:00:56 slippery slope. What if what if deplatforming them is because of what this quote says when a person calls for bigoted violence are spreads misinformation that is damaging to the public. That's what that's what a guy like Trump was doing. Violence separates things, man. Yeah, man. Yeah. We got to teach people
Starting point is 01:01:14 to analyze information. That's really the key. People are just accepting everything that's coming down their feet and they're not looking at it with that sort of nuance. They're not looking at it with research. So what Shult said is what I always have That's why I believe. Like, if you believe what you're saying and you have an understanding of it. Right.
Starting point is 01:01:33 And it's coming from an educated perspective, we can debate. Right. That's when we can agree to disagree and have real conversations. But that's why I think you can't kick people off these platforms because there's no debate then. But what if they're just saying wild shit for the sake of saying wild shit, which everybody on social media is. So here's something interesting. It's like the platforms, we don't have any rules yet for the platforms. The platforms seem to never be held responsible, right?
Starting point is 01:01:55 Whereas TV shows are held responsible. Radio shows are held responsible. You say something fucked up. Somebody can sue you. Nobody's suing Facebook. Nobody's suing meta. Nobody's suing Instagram. Nobody's suing TikTok.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Yet. Yet. But when that does happen and somebody wins one of those cases, all of a sudden the rules are going to come cracking down real quick because now they'll feel liability for the things you say. Right now they're just sitting there chilling. But once that hits their pockets and it looks like something other people can do, then they're going to have some real strict rules.
Starting point is 01:02:23 That's why I've been saying, you got to regulate social media. It has to be some. I mean, any, I don't personally want that because I don't think I take advantage of it. You don't, but I'm going to tell you why you have to because if you don't, there's going to be so many people who end up in these Alex Jones type situations. Like, I'm watching it now. So many of these YouTubers getting sued and shit. Yeah. They don't have the money for these lawyers.
Starting point is 01:02:41 So when they go to court, they're on there. They're on there like, well, I heard. Oh, you heard? This is a court of law. Yeah. But now, isn't that a good thing that forces people to do their real homework? Yeah. No.
Starting point is 01:02:53 No. The only reason I say no is because it's. going to be a whole generation that gets fucked up. And some people should be able to learn from them. But you know as well as I do. Rules aren't just the control. Sometimes rules are to keep people from hurting themselves. Yeah, protect.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Yeah, but that's all, that's the. I would much rather them, the reason I love that. That's an age old question. It's like, do you know how I should protect myself better than me? Well, and then if you decide that now the state is dictating what I could do and you've limited my freedom. You're right. But guess what?
Starting point is 01:03:23 Sometimes people don't know. And they end up with $20 million law. lawsuits that they lose. Yeah. And now they wages are getting gone for the rest of their lives. You don't think they know what they're doing. Like, I think when you have like those shock jocks and people like that,
Starting point is 01:03:34 they know they're trying to push the envelope. They know they're taking that risk. So I think all the shit should be on them. It shouldn't be on the platform that's hosting it. Nah, the platform got to have some. And by the way, it's going to get to that. It's going to be something that happens on YouTube or social media where they're going to be like, nah, y'all are responsible for this.
Starting point is 01:03:51 It already happened on YouTube. It did? Yeah. So there was like the ad apocalypse or whatever. they were putting fucking like Charmin ads on like ISIS beheading videos and then all the sudden the toilet paper companies were like, yo, what the fuck are you doing? Why are you putting like this and like the beheading video? And then because basically what they were doing, he was just they were throwing ads on videos that they thought people could use. And to be fair, like a beheading needs, you know, cleaning up or whatever. So I could see how like paper towels might be useful in that situation. But but the point I'm trying to say is that once the ad companies said, you know, we don't want to do this and start to pull, YouTube created. age restriction. They created content restriction. And there are all these different things that your video
Starting point is 01:04:32 has to meet in order to have advertisers on it. That will happen to Instagram and Twitter once there's advertising, but there's barely advertising on Instagram and Twitter. So there's no way to affect them in that way. So it's tricky. I thought Instagram and Twitter had advertising. Barely, though. But not like YouTube
Starting point is 01:04:47 where every video is getting clipped with a few ads. It's not on somebody's video. It's like in between while you're scrolling. Exactly. So you can't hold them accountable for the video. is weird that we watch airplanes about to crash. Like we know it's a nuclear bomb in this airplane. When it crash, it's going to level all of us.
Starting point is 01:05:05 That's where we're headed with all of this shit. If there's not some regulations, like, there's a reason they put regulations on the news. There's a reason they put regulations on these cable news networks. Anyplace somebody is broadcasting, radio, YouTube, anywhere, there should be some rules and regulations. And by the way, for so long, people thought they weren't. That's why to Alex's point, they were getting on here saying all types of wild shit.
Starting point is 01:05:29 And all it takes is one person to be like, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're going to court. Now what? Now you're in the whole millions of dollars. That's why in a weird way I think court does decide it. Because a few of those big cases happen. And all of a sudden, all these other creators like, shit, we got to be on our P's and Q's. Are they?
Starting point is 01:05:47 I don't know. I hope they are. I really do. I'm not even joking. I really hope they are. People are starting to censor themselves. Like you see a lot. You should.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Because you're cruising for a fucking bruising. And that's why I love, you're a stand-up comic. Yes. One of the best in the business today. You know why? Because you actually came up on that stage. Yep. Now, I'm not saying that Internet comics aren't good because there's a lot of them that are good,
Starting point is 01:06:09 but it's a difference coming up on that stage and coming up online. Yeah. I'm a radio personality. I love the fact that I've had to have FCC rules and regulations, just like a Rush Limbaugh had or Howard Stern had, because it teaches you how to play. You know what you. can and you can't get away with. At least I know the rules.
Starting point is 01:06:29 So if I overstep them, I know the risk. You know what I mean? I know what comes with that. Howard knew what came with that when he stepped over a certain line. Rush Limbaugh, God bless it, that he knew what came with that if he stepped over a certain line. These people on YouTube and shit, they don't. And by the time they find out it's too fucking late.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Now there are millions of dollars in the hole. And now they're fucking wages to be in garnet. Yeah, the algorithm kind of pushes you into people who already agree with you. So you don't have to, you don't have to entertain the people who disagree. And I think that was one of a danger. Then hearing what Kanye says on a certain platform. I think the idea that we're all going to be in these silos that only reflect our own beliefs, the echo chamber, whatever you want to call it.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Because you can get away with more and you can get away extreme beliefs. It's like what we saw with QAnon. And then to your point, like about comedy, it's like I started in comedy clubs where people didn't even know who the fuck I was. So I had to be able to entertain strangers that are different beliefs and then get that. them on my same page. And you're getting that instant feedback. And the instant feedback. I'm like, oh, okay, that joke made people feel uncomfortable or that punchline doesn't work
Starting point is 01:07:33 right there. How do I make this palatable enough for even the people who disagree with me? And I'm sure you felt that with radio as well. It's like, everybody turns on that fucking dial, all of a sudden it's going to have to listen to you. That's right. Ooh, okay, this is, women are not liking this or guys over 30 are not liking this, et cetera. Yeah, that's a good point.
Starting point is 01:07:49 When you meet people out and about, you meet people out and about, you'd be like, I didn't know, I wouldn't even think this is somebody that listens to the show. You know what I mean? Or you got a general manager who's coming in after the shift and saying that was a little too far. Yes, but checks and balance. Right. That's what's missing. Somebody's helping you regulate your shit.
Starting point is 01:08:08 What scares me about this new generation is nobody's helping them regulate their shit. And by the time they figure it out, it's too fucking late. I don't want that for them. Yeah. Personally. And we got to stop saying speech is free because it's fucking not. I've been saying it for years. There is a price to everything that comes out of your mouth.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Sometimes it might be money. Sometimes it might be a punch in the face. It's never jail. And I think that's what the thing about free of speech is. It doesn't mean that it might not cost you something, but it's not going to put you behind bars unless you're like actually hurting people. And I think that's the idea with freedom of speech is you should be able to say what you want to say. You might hurt someone's business and they sue you for the amount of money that you
Starting point is 01:08:55 cost them. You got to deal with it. And you have to deal with that. But you're not going to lose your freedom for the thing that you say, which I believe is the idea behind it. Especially when it comes to politics, right? That's where these countries get into trouble. You go against whoever's in control. They drum up some shorter charge. Yeah. Now you're locked up. That's what we can never get to. Yes. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. You look back at everything that somebody said, a candidate that's going up against you. And they go, ooh, you see he said this one thing that's against the rules. Lock him up. Now he can't run. That's a great point. Well, that's going to happen in the future
Starting point is 01:09:27 Because what's going to happen is And it's not America That's going to happen in America If they don't regulate social media What's going to happen is Somebody's going to get in power And they're going to regulate it To fit them
Starting point is 01:09:37 Right Meaning like if I'm one of these Far-right conspiracy theorists Imagine Marjorie Taylor Green In a position of power And she said let's regulate it But we're going to regulate it for us
Starting point is 01:09:48 So anybody who says anything negative about us Or anything against us Off with their fucking head You know what I mean So now you're why I'm like you can't kick Trump off of here, man, because the sword swings both ways. Just because he's saying something that I don't like,
Starting point is 01:10:01 I want him gone, what happens when the pendulum swings the other way? They're going to kick all this off. So how do you, how do you, I guess, the department was dangerous? You've got to do what we're doing right now. Kanye says some crazy shit.
Starting point is 01:10:10 We break it down. Explain why it's crazy. Explain why it doesn't make sense. And you got to just keep doing that, keep doing that and keep doing that. And it's tiresome. That don't mean he can't get his jaw tap, though. Fair.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Like businesses can walk away and people can stop supporting them. I'm like, even when we, What you're saying is absolutely true, Chris, but even when we talk about the price of speech, that comes with it too. You're going to turn people off. You might fucking say something
Starting point is 01:10:32 and think that shit ripped, and you got 100 people over here cheering you on, but 10,000 might have been offended and say, I'm never listening to this motherfucker ever again. I'm never buying this products ever again. My kids wanted Yeezys years ago. No. We're not supporting that.
Starting point is 01:10:45 I think the good thing that the social media platforms are doing when they have the disclaimer, like, oh, this hasn't been fact checked or something like that. I think that's a good step in the right direction because it's like, hey, we're not going to limit your free speech, but we see something wrong with this, and we're going to give you a little disclaimer
Starting point is 01:11:01 before you actually watch it. So now it's like you look at it with, like, critical eyes instead of just like taking it for face value. You're right. I just never went to fucking social media for facts. Right. This is a different generation. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:14 They're using TikTok as Google right now. They're using TikTok as fucking cool. It's true. No, he's right. 100%. I mean, they were doing that with YouTube as well. If you really want to think about it, YouTube is the second biggest search engine in the world.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Google's the number one. YouTube is second. YouTube, any of us, even your kids, can upload a video giving their opinion on Kanye. And people are going to that, potentially for information, and judging by the amount of views, validating how accurate it is.
Starting point is 01:11:40 It's kind of wild. Like, if I see a video that got three million views and it's a workout video, I'm like, this must be a good workout. Yep. But like this, if I see a video got three million videos and it's like, why is Kanye right?
Starting point is 01:11:51 Maybe he's right. You know what I mean? That's the, danger, I guess you could say. So maybe there is a responsibility, like Al said, putting that up, you're like, this hasn't been bare minute, this hasn't been verified. Well, then the question becomes who's doing the verification. Okay, so that's the dangerous thing.
Starting point is 01:12:05 Right. Because now you're giving the power of truth to social media companies. Who decides what truth is? The government has decided what truth is throughout our life. That's true. And that's not necessarily a good thing. The Gulf of Tonkin gets us into Vietnam based on truth. Some shit never happened.
Starting point is 01:12:22 I guess that's dangerous, bro. And furthermore, it's dangerous when we don't even own the social media company. If China owns that shit, all of a sudden, truth gets very Chinese. That's TikTok. Yeah, I guess that's also, too, what I mean. I mean, I guess the courts play a part in that too. And that's why, like, why what Alex Jones did is super dangerous. Yep.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Because regardless of what you believe, if in a court of law, it's been proven that this is true. Yep. Fuck you. Yep. You can't jump out there and say it's not. You know what I mean? And that's what's going to happen with Kanye. I guarantee you there's going to be a lawsuit from the Floyd family.
Starting point is 01:12:59 And the precedent was set because of things like Alex Jones. Well, Pete Davidson, too. To me, he got slant. I mean, he called him a heroin addict. Yeah. I'm like, that's going to fuck you up trying to get movie work. No, that's actually a great point. Very liable.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Very liable. If you're calling someone a heroin addict, a movie studio might think that's too much of a liability to put you on. Very liable. And that's the other thing people don't understand about. the Norrie Drink Champs thing. It's like Norrie did the right thing by taking the video down
Starting point is 01:13:27 because he didn't want to hurt the family of George Floyd, but also there was so many things said in that video that are liable. I'm telling you, when the lawsuit comes, it's going to come. You're going to hear Kanye getting sued.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Probably going to hear Candice Owens getting sued. They might name, you know, drink champs and revolt in the lawsuit. I hope not, you know what I mean? But I can see all of that happening. And you know why? Because of the precedent that was set. by the Alex Joneses of the world.
Starting point is 01:13:54 By Cardi B's lawsuit. Like all of that stuff set a precedent. And now people are going to be like, oh, you're just going to be out here lying? Because that's not an opinion. True. Like what Kanye said about George Floyd dying offense and all and the officer didn't even have his knee in his neck like that.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Yeah. What the fuck? Br. That's not even opinion. That's not something you believe. That's something we all saw, witnessed. They went to court for that.
Starting point is 01:14:19 That was the defense's, defense. Man, I got a good joke about that. No, you don't ever. But I'll tell you also that I don't want to hear it. You do want to hear it. You want to hear this. You want to hear this one. I do not want to hear it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not worth it. Let's pay some bills. Talk space. When it comes to therapy and psychiatry, oh, this is a great segue, because this is what I really want Kanye to do. Go get some goddamn help. When it comes to therapy and psychiatry, getting the help you need has never been so simple. When you're able to access your provider from the comfort of your device, it means mental health care can be on your schedule. And alleviating
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Starting point is 01:17:17 Let's get back to the show. Let's do some church announcements. Hezzi, what you got? You know, what do we got? What do we got? Oh, special on YouTube, man. Thank you guys so much. It's over 7 million views already.
Starting point is 01:17:35 Wow. So that's been unbelievable. Thank you guys so much for the fucking support and watching it and sharing it. And yeah, it's just been amazing, man. Thank you so much. You know, this is... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:46 Now back to work, baby. Now back to work. Back to fucking work. You got a whole set to do. That is true, man. That's the, people don't know how hard it is to complain when you're rich. You know what I mean? Like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:18:04 Nobody's just, comedy's just complaining and being funny. So it's like, but you don't want to hear what I got to say about rich shit. Yeah, you're right. Like, is it really that big a deal? That's why it's good to have friends that, you know, can relate. Yeah. Y'all can call and vent to each other.
Starting point is 01:18:25 You think the rat pack was fucking just together because it was a bunch of rich people that were famous. That was a support group. Right? The fuck. My church announcements are simple. Summer 85. That's the latest audible original project for me and Kevin Hart,
Starting point is 01:18:42 SBAH Productions. My man Chris Moreau, our guy, Chris Monroe. you enjoy Chris's brain. You know, that is a great documentary that he put together, called the summer of 85, which talks about the tragic bombing of Little Africa in Philly in the summer of 85 and the correlation with the live aid concert. So make sure you go get that on Audible right now.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Also finding Tamika available on Audible right now. Those are the two projects we put out this year. And, you know, just keep watching the show, man, hell of a week. Every Thursday night at 1130, you know, on Comedy Central. All you can scream it on Paramount. Plus, we had a great show last week. Last week we had, Marlon Wayans was on, Jamel Hill, and a person who I think should be the next host of the Daily Show, Amber Ruffin.
Starting point is 01:19:25 Hey. Because Andrew Shultz don't want to do it. Nope. So those are my two picks. What about you, bro? No, I do a combination of Roy Wood and Amber Ruffin. And I think Shultz would actually be the perfect person if they let Shultz be Shultz. They would never.
Starting point is 01:19:42 Which they probably would. Also, that's too much, bro. Daily sucks. I can't think. Yeah, yeah. You make it too much money. No, not even that. Like, I can't care about enough shit every day.
Starting point is 01:19:51 Yeah, I get it. There ain't enough political shit every day to talk about. Hey, trust me, I do. But that's why you mix it with culture, too, and social issues. You know what I mean? 100%. It's always a lot to talk about it. But once a week, like what John Oliver does, what you do, like what we were doing with
Starting point is 01:20:05 the turn your phone, I like picking one thing a week that people genuinely have curiosity about opening it up, opening it up, writing funny jokes about it. We all learn something. We laugh. We get ideally some, like, perspective on it. It doesn't have to mean the left or the right is right. It doesn't matter, but this is what it is. And then we walk away.
Starting point is 01:20:23 One thing. One thing. got enough desire for 40 fucking things. Imagine forever doing that for seven years. I call it whoop, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, Woot. Wait, Till, till like Miss Goldberg, whoopies. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:50 Till is Emmett Till? Yeah, yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah, she's the EPO on that. She plays Emmett Till's grandmother, I believe. Great, very heavy watch. I told Marlon Williams, I was just, me, Martin Williams were talking.
Starting point is 01:21:03 I was like, yeah, man, I said, man, it's a, it's a tough watch. He goes, really? A movie about Emmett Till is a tough watch? No shit, Charlemagne. Oh, hey, don't. don't watch Dahmer, it's a tough watch. But you're right. It's heavy, bro.
Starting point is 01:21:20 But make sure you check out till... It's playing actually in New York and L.A. now and I think it comes out everywhere on October 28th. This Thursday, we're back with another great show, 11.30 p.m. on Comedy Central. This week we have Michael Cohn, Michael Cohen, Teslin Figuero,
Starting point is 01:21:39 Jim Norton. Oh, I love Jim. Yeah, Jim Norton. Stephen A. Smith. Oh, again. Yeah, this Thursday. Wasn't Stephen A on before? No, he was supposed to do it, and his schedule got messed up.
Starting point is 01:21:52 So he had to reschedule. Amazing. Great lineup. Dude, Jim, Jim is fucking hilarious. Oh, Jim's hilarious. Super hilarious. Let's do some asking idiots, man, because I got to go get my carlosopy. Got to get my anal checked.
Starting point is 01:22:02 That's fire, dude. What we got, Taylor? That's so fire, dude. He's getting opened up later. He opened up, bent over. That's fire, bro. Sweet James Jones, and it couldn't be it. No, what, 44.
Starting point is 01:22:14 year old radio personality. Oh. No. I know a radio personality and he's 44 years old when he pop it from the back. I see the hairy ass hole. All right. What we got, Taylor? Come on, bro. That was bars, bro. Keep spinning. That was Pimsy.
Starting point is 01:22:29 Say what? That was Pim C. Well, he didn't say that. Pimsy said I got a young brown style in that she's 20 years old when she popped it from that back. You see the hairy asshole. That's disgusting. Let's see. That is absolutely disgusting.
Starting point is 01:22:45 Oh, this is a good one. Paulie underscore 8,921 says, what's your favorite album of all time? What's your favorite album of all time? Shalti. Kanye. Yeah, Kanye. No, my favorite album of all time.
Starting point is 01:22:58 Huh. That's a great question. Maybe like Guns and Roses's appetite for destruction. Hmm. That's a good. That was my first CD I ever got. I used to sell a lot of those. When I used to do telemarketing.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Yeah. And I was the guy that I'd have to call you on behalf of BMG. I have to work at this place called Paragon Solutions. I have to try to sell you Tennessee D's for a penny. Yeah. That goddamn, uh, BMG, BMI. BMI. A weapon, what was it called?
Starting point is 01:23:21 The Guns and Roses. Appetite for destruction. Appetite for destruction. That in Leonard Skinnered. Oh, wow. Back in black. Ooh. Sold a lot of though.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Ooh. Sold a lot of though. But no, that one was fucking great. Uh, trying to thank others. What's my favorite album of all the time? Probably Mary J. Blodd in my life. Wow. Mary J Blodd My Life's probably my favorite album of all time.
Starting point is 01:23:46 And that's just me spitballing, but I'm pretty sure that's my favorite album of all time. I'm trying to think. Al, what's your favorite album of all time? Blueprint. None? Blueprint. Bad Bunny. What?
Starting point is 01:23:54 Blueprint. Yeah. Bad Bunny. Oh, Blueprint. Yeah. Oh, I think he said Bad Bunny. That Bunny is killing this show. I don't know a Bad Bunny song.
Starting point is 01:24:02 I feel so embarrassed. I don't know one either, but, boy, Bad Bunny is Puerto Rican and bisexual. He's bisexual? Yeah. Wait, really? I don't know if he's bisexual. He's a cross-stresser, but I don't think. think he's come out as...
Starting point is 01:24:13 I thought he said he was buying a song or something. No, he kissed a man at the fucking award show. I think that was just... Don't make me tell you about your people, yo. Why am I telling you about Puerto Ricans? You got it. Wait, wait, wait, wait. He kissed the guy at the award show.
Starting point is 01:24:25 But does bad bunny smoke cocks? I don't think he has come out as actual bisexual. I think he just does a lot of stuff for, you know... Let me Google. You know how, like, when Madonna kisses... Yeah, she's old, girl. I'm saying. Yeah, I hear like the Harry Styles thing where like, yeah, he's, it's called queer baiting.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Oh, yeah. Yeah, where you like pretend you're gay and then gay people like it so they come out and support. Yeah. Yeah. Allegedly. I think. Oh, that's what you're doing right now is your colonoscopy every five minutes talking about that shit. Listen, man, my whole body is queer baiting, bro.
Starting point is 01:25:01 Look at me. These hips in his ass. I am absolutely queer bait. They see me, they want this worm, bro. They want this fish. They want to know what they? can put on a hook to get me. Am I using this right?
Starting point is 01:25:14 Yeah. Fish boy. I am absolutely. Matter of fact, let me toot this thing up here. Yeah. They can really see what square bait look like. Taylor just got jealous.
Starting point is 01:25:29 They're always jealous. Yo, Taylor be looking at me up and down when I walk in with sweatsuits on. She'd be like, I don't feel my shit out like that. Hey, yo. Hey, yo. Yo. Don't be jealous? What would you do if you had a sex tape drop now from back in the day?
Starting point is 01:25:47 I'm rather from back in the day than now my shit was way more fire back then. What would I do? I would want to know. My dick game was crazy back in the day, bro. I would want to know who the fuck got time travel. Because how the fuck would you get a sex tape from back in the day? I don't know. It was on your phone or something like that.
Starting point is 01:26:02 I was born in the 1900s. I didn't have no fucking phone. Yeah, I forget. You're like on a dirt road and shit. Yes. We've had phones for decades. So you're a liar. I know.
Starting point is 01:26:13 You're a liar. I didn't get a phone. When did I first get a phone with a camera? Had to be in the 2000s. Yeah, I think in the 2000s. Yeah. For sure. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:26:22 There were camera phones back in the day. That is back in the day. Nah, like in the 1900s. No, there was camera phones in the 1900s. Yeah, yeah, the late 1900s. The late 1900s. Nah. Yes, the flip shit that had the little one.
Starting point is 01:26:34 They even had internet on it. Nah, bro. That Sprint, Sprint had the fucking camera phone, man. That was in the time. They didn't even make your dick look big. Thank you. What it looked like? Thank you.
Starting point is 01:26:50 Damn, colonoscopy. The first one was using 1997. They're going to put a phone up, the ass. They're going to put a phone up. You know, which phone you want, your ass, bro? One of them original ones? Yeah, you want them.
Starting point is 01:27:02 No, no, I don't want the original one. I want like the small joint. You put one that one that Zach Morris used to make pizza. Nah, the one of the year, yeah, Nino Brown and Jack Boris had. Zach Morris. God, damn, you can do that? You can put one of those up your butt? That girls could do that, bro.
Starting point is 01:27:15 No. Yo, girls' butt holes get mad big. They do. Kanye ain't talking about that, but that's facts. Girls' buttholes get mad big. It's crazy. They just keep getting bigger and bigger. Elban Dito 4110 said.
Starting point is 01:27:31 What did he say? What do you say? For real, dude. Okay, this is a good one. Scroll down, Taylor? Let's go to another one, bro. Andrew, of course he would. Andrew, would you have Kanye on Flagrin or the brilliant age?
Starting point is 01:27:40 Not now. Not now. Responsible? fucking journalist. Let me tell you something. When did that change? Literally about 10 minutes into that drink champs, I was like, yeah, I don't know if we
Starting point is 01:27:51 have this motherfucker on. But before drink chance, I was like, yeah, it might be fun, bro. I think we could get Kanye. Like, it'd be good to hear him out. 100%. Life was they says, what if... But, yo, having Kanye on flagrant, him saying all that shit and Dove being in the room as well,
Starting point is 01:28:04 that would be unbelievable. That would lose his mind. Oh, my God. He's been going crazy. And we got a competition. about who could lose more weight, me and duff, so he's already like shaky and shit. You know, he's like low blood sugar. So he's already on edge.
Starting point is 01:28:19 What if Kanye is right in five years? We've seen it. CTG was wrong in the past versus Kanye. Here's the thing. I've never been wrong about Kanye. Keep gone. I just haven't. What if he's right in five years?
Starting point is 01:28:30 What is that even mean? Go back and watch that interview now and ask me what I was wrong about. Kanye said he was going to be a billionaire? Great. Congratulations. Only thing I ever told Kanye was stop begging these motherfucking corporations.
Starting point is 01:28:42 you're Kanye to fuck West. You're Kanye motherfucking West. Why are you out here begging these motherfucking corporations? Which and what I'm basically saying is, stop seeking white validation so motherfucking much. He don't want to put up his own money, bro. That's what it is. He did it once.
Starting point is 01:28:55 He lost a lot and now he don't want to do it anymore. Bonn Cruz 92. How come you never talk about Latinos doing good industry? We just did. We just talked about Bad Bunny. We definitely just talked about Bad Bunny. Hell yeah. Now before we even saw that, bro.
Starting point is 01:29:08 And we're always talking about Latinos doing good. He loved Latinos on this podcast. How can you not love Latinos? Shout out Latinos. Name some other ones. What you mean? Alex Middy. What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:29:19 We got Bad Bunny. We got Daddy Yankee. Jay Cruz. Jay Balvin. Jay Balvin. Balvin. That's right. Jennifer Lopes.
Starting point is 01:29:28 Ledy Martinez. Ledy. Angie. Who else? You know what I mean? The Yankees. Shout out the Yankees. Shout out the Yankees.
Starting point is 01:29:38 Shout out the Yankees right now. You know what I mean? Latinos are a fire. Shout out to the Bronx, yo. Shout out the Bronx. Cardi B. Isn't she Latina? That's right.
Starting point is 01:29:47 If you had your own restaurant, what would your signature dish be? Yeah, because that WOP2-65 question is nasty. Wait, what is that one? It's apocalypse and Noah's Ark in modern day. God says you can bring only one person. Who is it? White!
Starting point is 01:30:01 Wait, what? First of all, they let them bring two animals, but they only going to let us bring one person? Yeah. The fuck out of here. Yeah. Well, you're the other one. I'm out.
Starting point is 01:30:13 I'm not doing it. You're not putting your... yourself in your pudding. Nah. Which? I got a party of six. You only can choose two, though. Well, we all out.
Starting point is 01:30:22 What's up? What's in the next life time? Yeah, that's crazy. We're out. You got to pick two of your daughters? No. We're a party of six. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:30:34 How is that foul? That's crazy. Yeah, you have how many kids? I got four. But you don't remember a few of them being annoying as fucking now, man. We are a party of six, baby. It's all right.
Starting point is 01:30:47 It's like, yo, okay, well, I guess this is then, y'all. Let's hold hands, you know. And what's the song that we all know? Sing something from fucking Enkanto. Speaking of Latinos. Pailamos. We don't talk about Bruno. We'll be a family of six singing we don't talk about Bruno.
Starting point is 01:31:02 We don't talk about Bruno. Local caster says, We don't talk about Bruno. We don't talk about Bruno. Have you watching if Macanto's fire, by them? I don't think that's all. What the fuck? Last question.
Starting point is 01:31:20 You never heard that song? Nobody has. Oh, that's me got to bring the motors. So me a man to my got to bring those motors. So me lemo. That's gasoline, bro. You don't even know the words of gasoline? Sumo le mano,
Starting point is 01:31:38 so. Pachem me gata, Prende, end up, pender. Pender, pender. Pender. That's it too, yes. Pender, pender, pender, pender. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:31:47 Summa le mauno. Joey G244 says, If you guys your hand if the pussy turns on the motor. What? That's what Daddy Yankee's saying. Summa le man, raise your hand if the pussy turns on the motor, if the pussy starts the engine. Summa le ma'amano for my little kitten.
Starting point is 01:32:07 Prende lo de lo dee. Prende Los Motores. Turn on, start the engine. This is a great segue. If you had your own restaurant, what would be your signature dish? If I had a restaurant, what would be my signature, your, I can't say that word, bro. I can't say that word. Signature dish.
Starting point is 01:32:27 What? Signature, please. You're crazy. My signature, my signature. You are crazy. You are a wild guy. Now they're going to repeat that shit a thousand times, make me say the M word. God damn.
Starting point is 01:32:45 Nah, for real. What would my restaurant be? I don't know, bro. Summa le mano, bro. Man. Bam-pa. What? Huh?
Starting point is 01:32:56 Signature don't play me. Yo. I dare you. All right? The fuck you mean. The answer is signature, no. Don't know how to cook, all right? Guys, can we be?
Starting point is 01:33:08 I think we got. Can we just calm down here with all that? I can't even say that word anymore, bro. Like, that's crazy how y'all made that word into the end word. Oh, man. Okay, so listen, we're about to leave. Yeah. But we're either going to put this out on Wednesday or Thursday, taping it on a Tuesday. Beautiful morning.
Starting point is 01:33:28 I would say the press conference from the Floyd family will be within the next 48. Beautiful morning. Yeah, that's what I think. Tell me something. So that lawsuit is going to be very interesting because I think. that is going to continue to allow us to have these conversations about free speech or what is the price of free speech? And maybe free speech isn't just all about whether or not you go to jail, free speech is just about what will it cost to you? The price of free speech is what
Starting point is 01:33:57 will it cost to you? To you. Can you afford to say the things that you're saying? Not just even financially. Can you beat up the person you're talking about? That's true. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, because free speech ain't free at the bar. That's right. If this person sues you, do you have money to fight in court? Do you have a lawsuit to stand? Like, what will the cost be for what comes out of your mouth? That's the conversation I think is going to continue after the Floyd family sues.
Starting point is 01:34:28 I'm definitely going to be Kanye, but I don't know who else is going to be in the lawsuit, but I can't wait to see. That's right. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. but if you listen to this podcast and you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right too. It's the brilliant idiots podcast.
Starting point is 01:34:42 Thank you for listening.

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